[00:05] <F41L> Ok, so... I'm tethered to my cell ATM on the KDE box. The only way to pick the bootloader was to do manual drive setup, which meant having to set my own mountpoints and swap location.
[00:06] <F41L> Anyway.... I can't connect to freenode using Konversation or Quassel. >.>
[00:06] <F41L> Says no ident response.
[00:10] <kdebooth> F41L: no internet connection?
[00:10] <F41L> No, I've got an internet connection. USB tethered to my 4G phone.
[00:11] <kdebooth> Ok neat
[00:12] <F41L> [17:11] [Notice] -asimov.freenode.net- *** No Ident response [17:11] [Info] Disconnected from irc.freenode.net (port 6697).
[00:12] <kdebooth> Hmm
[00:12] <kdebooth> What's your name set as in those two?
[00:13] <F41L> Idunno, same as always?
[00:13] <F41L> Not really important. I'd love to get my ethernet up, though :D
[00:13] <F41L> Intel 82574L, shows up in lspci
[00:13] <F41L> But I think it has bad NVM configuration
[00:16] <kdebooth> Ugh Why is intel stuff so wonky
[00:17] <kdebooth> What are you using now to connect to IRC?
[00:19] <F41L> Right now, I'm using my cellphone tether >.>
[00:19] <F41L> but only through freenode webchat.
[00:19] <F41L> quassel or konversation both cannot connect to freenode for whatever reason O.o
[00:20] <F41L> Worked fine before using cellphone-ternet on my laptop
[00:20] <kdebooth> ah webchat
[00:20] <kdebooth> F41L: can you join #konversation ?
[01:22] <Linkmaster> BluesKaj: ping
[01:27] <kdebooth> hi Linkmaster
[01:27] <Linkmaster> kdebooth: hello?
[01:28]  * kdebooth waves
[01:29] <Linkmaster> Do you know how to help me with my dual-boot problem?
[01:35] <Linkmaster_> kdebooth: I missed anything you might have said
[05:22] <Programmer_> what is the purpose of activities in kubuntu
[07:45] <goodtime> man what do i use for kubuntu to copy music to my iphone
[07:52] <hateball> goodtime: I was under the impression that Amarok would handle iDevices, but I don't have any myself to test on
[08:00] <goodtime> ok
[08:00] <goodtime> ty hateball
[08:01] <goodtime> Connecting to iPhone, iPad or iPod touch failed.
[08:01] <hateball> !iphone
[09:14] <eagles0513875_> hey guys is anyone noticing on 13.04 when using chromium its asking constantly to install the unity web apps plugin. I am on kde and i have no intention to install it is there a way i can disable that in chromium
[09:28] <noaXess> hey hey
[09:29] <noaXess> have upgraded to 13.04.. seams all is working fine on my ASUS N76VZ, check out this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2134380
[09:29] <noaXess> but now.. skype does have sound problem.. some crazy effects if eg. i get a message
[09:30] <noaXess> it's only in skype. if i listen some music with vlc it is ok as it should
[09:55] <fr0gger_> anyone know if there is chanell about VirtualGL and VNC-like software?
[10:10] <ct529> hi everybody .... I am having serious performance problems. I have been trying to set the CPU frequency manually using command line (CLI), but the "usual" commands are not there any more .... how do you do it now?
[10:16] <monkeyjuice> http://askubuntu.com/questions/209514/how-to-step-up-my-cpus-frequency
[10:20] <ct529> monkeyjuice: that is not for setting your cpu frequency using CLI
[10:20] <ct529> monkeyjuice: it is for reading cpu frequency using CLI
[10:20] <ct529> monkeyjuice: I need to set it.
[10:20] <ct529> monkeyjuice: before you just used cpufreq-set
[10:20] <monkeyjuice> ok ill keep looking around
[10:20] <ct529> monkeyjuice: I have done a lot of googling, I keep ending up on GUI ways of doing it
[10:21] <monkeyjuice> oh i c
[10:21] <monkeyjuice> your on 13.04?
[10:21] <fr0gger_> yes
[10:22] <monkeyjuice> ah so something has changed i get it
[10:34] <ct529> monkeyjuice: trying cpulimit now .... but it works a different way.
[10:35] <monkeyjuice> i do see cpufrequtil but looks to be a gui
[10:35] <monkeyjuice> not sure
[10:36] <ct529> I think I am ready to move to gentoo or arch ....
[12:45] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[12:50] <tdn> I have just installed 13.04 in a fresh installation. I have enabled auto-login during installation, however, when I boot up, it seems that lightdm is not even started. How do I fix this?
[12:51] <tdn> If I start lightdm manually by running service lightdm start, it starts and logs me right in.
[12:51] <tdn> Why does lightdm not start automatically? How do I debug this? Which log files to look in?
[12:51] <tdn> Why does kubuntu not use KDM anymore?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> lightdm skips it's login page with autologin enabled , afaik
[12:52] <tdn> BluesKaj, it seems that it does not even start up.
[12:52] <tdn> BluesKaj, I just get the console mode login.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> it doesn't need to
[12:52] <tdn> So I can log into a TTY and run sudo service lightdm start.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> oh
[12:52] <tdn> BluesKaj, it does not?
[12:53] <tdn> Also, when I do get X up, it seems that network manager is not running.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> autologin skipped it's page and went directly to the desktop when i used it , but that was a while back
[12:53] <tdn> BluesKaj, yeah, that would be the bahavior I expected.
[12:53] <tdn> BluesKaj, but it does not even start up. Or maybe it crashes?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> have you updated upgraded since the install?
[12:54] <tdn> BluesKaj, fresh install.
[12:54] <BluesKaj> tdn,, no matter have you updated and upgraded?>
[12:54] <tdn> BluesKaj, you mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:55] <tdn> BluesKaj, yes, all updates are installed.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> ok tdn , did you try reinstalling lightdm?
[12:56] <tdn> I have not tried that. apt-get reinstall lightdm?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> tdn,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[12:58] <tdn> BluesKaj, I will try that, but why would this have any effect? This is a *fresh* installation. I installed it 1 hour ago.
[12:58] <tdn> reinstall will just reinstall the binaries frmo the .deb package, right?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> tdn, there a few issues with lightdm , and a reinstall might bring the dependency lib that might have not installed properly
[13:00] <tdn> I have reinstalled. I am rebooting now.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> it happened to me with 12.10 and 13.04 in the tresting phase
[13:01] <BluesKaj> testing
[13:01] <tdn> BluesKaj, did not work.
[13:02] <tdn> BluesKaj, lightdm stilld oes not come up.
[13:02] <tdn> Is there a log file I can see if it is even trying to start it?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> tdn , you have the autologin turned off ?
[13:03] <tdn> BluesKaj, no, I enabled it during OS installation.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> you can disable it in system settings>login screen >general tab, tdn
[13:06] <BluesKaj> it could be the auto login is failing by turning lightdm off completely
[13:07] <BluesKaj> tdn, you checj the logs in /var/log syslog
[13:08] <tdn> BluesKaj, what to look for in syslog?
[13:10] <tdn> BluesKaj, it does not seem that lightdm has any messages in syslog before I manually restart it.
[13:12] <BluesKaj> then it isn't being called to load , might be a bug , tdn
[13:12] <tdn> BluesKaj, how do I fix it?
[13:12] <tdn> BluesKaj, how do I make it load lightdm in bootup?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> you can disable it in system settings>login screen >general tab, tdn
[13:12] <tdn> BluesKaj, I am pretty sure that such a bug would be noticed, I mean if X does not come up...
[13:13] <tdn> BluesKaj, why would I want to disable autologin?
[13:13] <tdn> I want that.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> tdn, disable the autologin
[13:13] <BluesKaj> well then you need to report the bug to launchpad
[13:13] <tdn> OK, I have disabled auto now.
[13:13] <tdn> Rebooting.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> it's safer not to autologin
[13:14] <tdn> BluesKaj, no, not in my environment.
[13:14] <tdn> BluesKaj, also, I want this behavior. And disabling auto login did NOT help.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> how can it not be safer
[13:15] <smartboyhw> tdn: Auto-login is NEVER safe.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> smartboyhw, he wants what he wants , so let him file a bug
[13:17] <BluesKaj> smartboyhw, unless you have a fix
[13:17] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, I know, I need to tell him the fact
[13:18] <smartboyhw> What's the release BTW? 13.04?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> already did , but he seems to need a quick login
[13:18] <BluesKaj> yes , 13.04 fresh install
[13:19] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[13:19] <smartboyhw> Report bug is best then:(
[13:21] <BluesKaj> I had the same problem , but it was waaay back in the early days of 13.04 ...wasn't using autologin but lightdm wouldn't load , had to load it from the tty
[13:31] <tdn> BluesKaj, smartboyhw: please let us keep the security discussion out of this. This is a portable virtual machine that only has one user. For the purpose of this machine, it does not make sense to not have auto login. Regardless, the security aspect is not relevant for my problem. The problem is that I am trying to use a useful feature that is included in Kubuntu... But this problem does not even seem to be caused by autologin. The problem is that li
[13:31] <tdn> Even when I disable autologin.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> tdn, then you should have expalined that in the first place. We can't read minds .
[13:33] <smartboyhw> VMs....
[13:34] <invariant> tdn, you should not bother with BluesKaj. He is ignorant.
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , that really irks me when ppl are on VB or VMware and don't tell us what environment they're computing in. It's not the same as anormal install.
[13:35] <smartboyhw> invariant: That's a bad insult.
[13:35] <invariant> smartboyhw, it's not an insult when it is the truth.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> ok invariant show us your stuff , fix this guys lightdm not loading problem
[13:35] <invariant> BluesKaj, how is that even remotely related?
[13:35]  * smartboyhw agrees with BluesKaj
[13:36] <invariant> BluesKaj, all I know is that your problem resolution success rate is close to zero.
[13:36] <invariant> BluesKaj, it's not worth to listen to.
[13:36] <invariant> Which reminds me to put you on my ignore list again.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> smartboyhw, don't bother with his insults , it's his only pleasure in life , or so it seems , let him stew
[13:36] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj: +1
[13:37] <invariant> If smartboyhw thinks BluesKaj has any skills, he can also go on the list.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> ok invariant , cmon show us how wonderful you are and help someone , and be a positive influence for a change
[13:38] <smartboyhw> invariant: If people have to have 50% correct rate to answer user support, nobody will be doing it.
[14:30] <tdn> BluesKaj, I was not aware what it was relevant for my problem (I am still not sure it really is), and you did not ask if this was a VM.
[15:29] <akSeya> hi folks
[15:30] <akSeya> I get no mouse nor keyboard after upgrade to 13.04. If i boot with kernel 3.5.0 it works but with latest kernel don't. what can I do?
[15:33] <akSeya> looks like network do not work either
[15:34] <akSeya> be right back
[15:47] <francisloves> hello
[16:26] <scottlocal> I have installed pbis open and joined the AD domain and can log in using the domain account but the desktop does not load icon and can not set display settings
[16:27] <scottlocal> I am trying to find the domain user in kusers to add admin the the account but can not find a domain account in the kusers how do i show ad users in my list
[16:31] <roasted> hello friends
[16:31] <roasted> is the homerun launcher not integrated into 13.04? Or is it still required via ppa?
[16:32] <scottlocal> hello I ask my question first sorry
[16:33] <bazhang> !find homerun
[16:34] <Tm_T> bazhang: different homerun
[16:34] <bazhang> roasted  hdhomerun?
[16:34] <roasted> bazhang: homerun launcher.
[16:34] <roasted> bazhang: the Unity-esque KDE Launcher
[16:34] <bazhang> Tm_T, whats the package name
[16:34] <Tm_T> bazhang: "homerun"
[16:35] <Tm_T> roasted: cannot find it in standard repositories
[16:35] <roasted> yeah I'm not seeing it in the 13.04 repos
[16:35] <bazhang> then it appears to be PPA only roasted
[16:35] <roasted> I thought it would be added in 13.04. hm.
[16:35] <roasted> that's fine, I was just confused. I could have sworn conversation with the homerun dev suggested it would be in 13.04 by default
[16:35] <roasted> (this was about 2-3 months ago)
[16:40] <Tm_T> roasted: it should be in the repos, yes, not in use by default though
[16:41] <roasted> Tm_T: I understand it's not in use by default. I just thought it'd be available. I'll know more in about 5 seconds though wit hthis live VM
[16:41] <roasted> oh nice - it is there by default. IT's an available widget.
[16:41] <roasted> awesome
[16:43] <roasted> the homerun launcher sure is snazzy.
[16:43] <Elirips> Hello. I'm trying to do a fresh install of 13.04. But I get the error: ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 141. any help?
[16:43] <Elirips> just after partitioning the disk
[16:43] <Elirips> and selecting switzerland as country
[16:45] <Elirips> cannot set LC_TYPE to default locale: no such file
[16:45] <Elirips> (or similiar)
[16:45] <Elirips> can that be because of I'm not connected to the internet?
[16:49] <Elirips> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[16:49] <Elirips> ops, sorry
[16:59] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[17:03] <MySystem> is it possible with diff to only show files&folders which are on FOLDER1 but not on FOLDER2 and ignore all which are on FOLDER2 and not on FOLDER1 diff cmd looks atm like "diff -r FOLDER1 FOLDER2"
[17:08] <Elirips> Okay, the error doesnt show up if I run the installer in english
[17:11] <Schrodinger`Cat> MySystem: maybe you can try ##linux ?
[17:12] <MySystem> ok thx will try
[17:48] <aguitel> how manage ufw from systemsettings in kde ?
[17:52] <krissi_> I got no fronts in steam on linux on kubuntu 13.04 anyone have any idea what i can do ?
[17:53] <Quintasan> krissi_: I'm not entirely sure why, you might actually want to ask on Steam forums
[17:58] <BluesKaj> aguitel, install gufw if you need a gui control
[17:59] <aguitel> BluesKaj, this is gnome apps
[17:59] <Quintasan> I believe there is no ufw frontend for kde in repositories
[18:00] <Quintasan> aguitel: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/UFW+KControl+Module?content=137789
[18:01] <Quintasan> You might want to try compling that
[18:01] <BluesKaj> aguitel, then install the gnome vers ion , this is kubuntu suport , btw
[18:04] <BluesKaj> aguitel,, dunno if it's a kde app , didn't check , but muon says this in the description , Canonical does not provide updates for gufw. Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community
[18:04] <aguitel> BluesKaj, ok
[18:14] <l0ll0lll-> hi all. I've just launched kubuntu 13.04 from livecd, and the plasma panel appears almost empty - only activities button and a kashew is present. Is it somehow a new "feature" of kubuntu or what?
[18:15] <l0ll0lll-> s/kashew/cashew/
[18:18] <BluesKaj> l0ll0lll-, is the Kmenu on left of the panel ?
[18:19] <l0ll0lll-> BluesKaj: no
[18:20] <l0ll0lll-> had to add launcher, task manager and clock
[18:20] <BluesKaj> hmm, check if kubuntu-desktop is completely installed
[18:20] <l0ll0lll-> (btw, if this matters, x started in extended desktop mode, with panel on right monitor, maybe this setup broke kde?)
[18:21] <l0ll0lll-> s/kde/plasma/
[18:22] <lordievader> Good evening.
[18:23] <eli__> Hello. How can I change the locale? Currently it is set to de_CH.ISO-8859-1 but I would like to have de_CH.UTF8 ?
[18:23] <eli__> I setted LANG="de_CH.UTF8" in /etc/environment and /etc/default/locale, but no effect
[18:23] <eli__> after a reboot locale reports 8859-1
[19:37] <michaelp> fresh install of ukubuntu 13.04... i have no hdmi audio.. any ideas ?
[19:38] <michaelp> pulseaudio installed
[19:43] <BluesKaj> michaelp, itel audio ?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> intel rather
[19:45] <michaelp> idt built in sound.. but hdmi goes thru my ati catalyst
[19:45] <michaelp> Never had this problem until now
[19:49] <BluesKaj> yes but what is your soundcard, it transfers the audio thru the ati hdmi out , michaelp
[19:50] <michaelp> i already said    ( IDT )
[19:50] <BluesKaj> aplay -l in the terminal
[19:50] <michaelp> i googled... its a bug
[19:51] <michaelp> supose to be fixed next kernel update
[19:52] <michaelp> card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[19:52] <michaelp> Subdevices: 1/1
[19:52] <michaelp>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:53] <michaelp> ard 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: STAC92xx
[19:53] <michaelp> Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[19:58] <BluesKaj> hmm, michaelp we need to know the audio chip , if it's anintel and i suspect it is, there's a patch for it
[19:58] <BluesKaj> cat /proc/asound/cards , michaelp
[20:00] <michaelp>  HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
[20:03] <BluesKaj> michaelp, here's the patch https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+build/4470143
[20:06] <michaelp> is i386 going to work on x64 ?
[20:08] <michaelp> what link do i want on that
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ok nm , Ilost the 64 bit link , michaelp
[20:10] <michaelp> BluesKaj: i ment what link do i want for the patch
[20:11] <michaelp> is this the file oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms
[20:29] <BluesKaj> michaelp, did you find the 64 bit patch ?
[20:38] <ardian> Hi I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed and I want to install the last version of KDE 4.10, how do I install it
[20:38] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10
[20:38] <bazhang> ardian, ^
[20:39] <ardian> bazhang: thank you
[20:39] <bazhang> from the topic :)
[20:40] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , ardian
[20:40] <ardian> and then can I install it from tasksel
[20:40] <BluesKaj> ardian, then update and upgrade
[20:41] <ardian> well I don't have kde
[20:41] <ardian> installed
[20:41] <ardian> right now
[20:41] <steve723> update ornic to latest version failed
[20:43] <BluesKaj> steve723, you can't jump over releases, do a freah install and backup your data first
[20:44] <lordievader> Unless it is LTS -> LTS.
[20:44] <bazhang> !oneiric
[20:44] <steve723> Muno updater said I could upgrade so I told it to to.  It got %63 of the packages and then quit with no error message.
[20:45] <bazhang> 11.10 was not lts
[20:47] <BluesKaj> ardian, you can install kubuntu-desktop then choose your desktop at login
[20:48] <ardian> BluesKaj: got it thanks
[20:52] <asunnO> im having issues with vmware on 64 bit raring.... i cant enter serial and the app crashes..
[20:52] <asunnO> virtualbox is functional but crashes often
[20:52] <asunnO> ?
[20:52] <bazhang> asunnO, vmware?
[20:52] <asunnO> workstation
[20:53] <bazhang> tried in #vmware ?
[20:53] <asunnO> lol
[20:53] <asunnO> xd
[20:53] <asunnO> thx
[20:53] <asunnO> my bad
[20:53] <bazhang> np
[20:54] <steve723> I made a mistake I was upgrading from 12.10
[20:55] <steve723> 64 Bit
[20:59] <steve723> Why can't I download Raring? The download site only has Percise.
[21:01] <bazhang> !torrents
[21:01] <bazhang> steve723, ^
[21:01] <BluesKaj> sudo do-release-upgrade, if you want to upgrade via the internet , steve723
[21:01] <Whiskey`Wonka> erm
[21:01] <steve723> Thanks
[21:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know why gimp would not have tiff support?
[21:03] <bazhang> Whiskey`Wonka, try in #gimp ?
[21:03] <Whiskey`Wonka> bazhang: sorry let me be clear, its a kubuntu repo of gimp edition
[21:03] <Whiskey`Wonka> issue
[21:05] <steve723> I did sudo do-release-upgrade and it failed! All repositorys faailed to fetch!
[21:11] <BluesKaj> steve723, have you updated and upgraded your packages lately . if not do so , and check your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure you "are on 12.10 precise"
[21:12] <asunnO> is 3.9 kernel available at this time
[21:12] <lordievader> asunnO: I don't think it is for Raring. Just saw that it available for Saucy (13.10 development version).
[21:13] <BluesKaj> asunnO, https://www.kernel.org/
[21:13] <asunnO> Could it be estimated the time until raring release?
[21:14] <asunnO> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM2MDU
[21:14] <asunnO> This concerns me,
[21:14] <lordievader> asunnO: Releases usually stick to the kernel they came shipped with. LTS being an exception.
[21:15] <asunnO> I see, ,,   well raring i know is LTS,     might it be available in few days or should i go to development verison?
[21:15] <bazhang> raring is not lts
[21:15] <lordievader> asunnO: Raring is not LTS, Precise (12.04) is.
[21:15] <BluesKaj> asunnO, you can download it at kernel.org
[21:15] <asunnO> oh, someone tell me raring is lts
[21:16] <bazhang> raring is out now
[21:16] <lordievader> asunnO: Develpment versions are not recommended...
[21:16] <bazhang> and raring is not one
[21:17] <asunnO> would i have more ease with download kernel from kernel.org or use development saucy
[21:17] <asunnO> i am interested in the improvements in kernel 3.9
[21:17] <bazhang> there is nothing available for saucy now
[21:18] <lordievader> bazhang: Only the repo's. But that's about it.
[21:18] <bazhang> lordievader, they have nothing of note
[21:18] <asunnO> Ah, i understand
[21:18] <asunnO> So more easily would really be wait for saucy to be release
[21:18] <asunnO> for ease of upgrade
[21:18] <bazhang> asunnO, some random kernel is not supported at all
[21:19] <asunnO> taht is what i thought
[21:19] <asunnO> So when saucy is release then i can use the 3.9
[21:19] <lordievader> bazhang: 3.9 kernel.
[21:25] <steve723> Thanks BluesKaj it seems to be upgrading now.
[21:27] <BluesKaj> steve723, good , hope it all goes well
[21:29] <steve723> to BluesKaj, I hope so.  I will see in a bit when I reboot ater the upgrade gets done.
[21:41] <steve723> See you folks later.
[23:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> muon respects pinned packages via /etc/apt/preferences right?
[23:07] <nafg_> Hi, the git plugin does not seem to be working in dolphin.
[23:15] <nafg_> Apparently it is working but I can't figure out why it's not overlaying some files' icons
[23:31] <Macer> omg since this update to 13.04 (stable??) i have had nothing but problems
[23:31] <Macer> printing won't work. bt tethering causes a kernel panic
[23:31] <Macer> it's insane
[23:49] <Macer> wow this really is messed up the older 12.10 was awesome
[23:49] <Macer> update and now it turned to total garbage
[23:49] <Macer> let me move over to my win7 box since i can't even print on this laptop anymore
[23:50] <Macer> is there a kde based distro that is a bit more stable than ubuntu based kubuntu?