[00:56] <snail> https://twitter.com/xwindowsystem heh
[01:03] <ojwb> doesn't post very often - i guess wifi reception is patchy under bridges
[01:10] <snail> ojwb: probably posts after every successful build
[19:22] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:22] <Atamira> morning
[19:30] <ajmitch> morning
[22:00] <olly> morning
[22:00] <hads> Morning
[22:00] <thumper> morning
[22:00] <hads> I like the new Unity button icon
[22:02] <mwhudson> morning
[22:24] <chilts> morning
[23:08] <hads> Also, opening the dash hasn't used all my CPU for n seconds yet which is neat.
[23:15] <mwhudson> hmm
[23:16]  * mwhudson is lusting after a new phone
[23:16] <mwhudson> 2degrees seems to have a pretty good deal on a nexus 4...
[23:18] <mwhudson> although it seems that they might be somewhat backlogged...
[23:22] <hads> The N4 is great. The only complaint I have about mine is the glass back is so slippery if you put it on a couch or something it *will* fall off, even if the surface looks flat.
[23:22] <hads> Not really a complaint though so you can take from that that it's a great phone.
[23:23] <mwhudson> hads: where did you get yours from?
[23:24] <hads> Australian Google Play
[23:24] <hads> Proxy through Au somehow and you can save quite a few $
[23:24] <lifeless> I picked mine up in the US
[23:25] <hads> Happy with it?
[23:25] <lifeless> very
[23:25] <lifeless> same slidiness issue
[23:25] <hads> It's amazing what it can slide off isn't it?
[23:25] <lifeless> indeed
[23:25] <olly> LG = Low Grip
[23:26] <hads> Amuses me that it can fall off something a minute or more after you put it there. Ultra slowly sliding down a tiny incline.
[23:27]  * olly wonders if there's an app which uses the tilt sensor and sounds an alarm
[23:28] <G> olly: accelerometer + the compass for tilt, I guess
[23:28] <olly> why do you need the compass?
[23:29] <olly> gravity acts down whichever way north is
[23:29] <G> olly: isn't it the compass in the phones that show the magnetic field/elevation?
[23:29] <G> err not elevation, but rather tilt
[23:29] <G> no wait, thats the gyro, brain isn't working today
[23:29] <olly> my phone has no compass, but can show which way is down
[23:30] <olly> it is possible to get down from the magnetic field, but it's fiddly and needs some sort of calibration
[23:30] <hads> Compass/Gyro/Acell
[23:30] <olly> i believe it requries 3 coils
[23:31] <G> hads: I actually did the math, technically you could buy it via the Australian store, fly over to pick it up, claim the Aussie GST back, fly back, and it's within $50-$100 of the 2Degrees price
[23:31] <G> but you get a holiday out of it too
[23:33] <hads> haha
[23:34] <mwhudson> how much is it in aussie?
[23:34] <G> except, the math may be wrong now, because it looks like 2Degrees have knocked $100 off the price
[23:34] <mwhudson> it's only $699 on 2degress now and you'd be doing well to get the flights for that i think?
[23:35] <G> mwhudson: hold on, let me hunt my work IRC logs
[23:36] <mwhudson> not sure about 8 gb vs 16 gb i guess
[23:36] <G> 16GB = A$399, when my Aussie colleague checked March 27, $349 for the 8GB
[23:37] <G> but yeah, this was when 2D were marketing the price as $800, and A$399 =~ NZ$500
[23:37] <mwhudson> oh ok
[23:38]  * G checks to see if Harvey Norman have dropped the price to match
[23:39] <mwhudson> nope
[23:39] <G> typical I guess, and a pity too
[23:40] <G> (I have Harvey Norman vouchers to spend)