ScottKcjwatson: OK.  It seemed odd I'd get an email from LP about something I'd uploaded to Debain and not touched.00:30
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xnoxcjwatson: ScottK: kdepim is the highest dependency chain in boost transition. I will check if i can fast track that branch of the transition quicker.06:08
apacheloggerslangasek, ScottK: it helps not having multiple bug reports on the same issue ... bug 1172534 ... I reached the same conclusion though, for some reason ubiquity/d-i ends up creating a grub.cfg without quite splash, which may or may not be related to us overriding GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR via /etc/default/grub.d10:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1172534 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "plymouth boot splash does not show on an installed system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117253410:07
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ScottKslangasek: Would you please review the kubuntu-settings upload for raring?13:16
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bdmurrayI'm adding saucy to the meta-release-development file since someone wants to upgrade badly18:29
infinitybdmurray: Works for me.18:31
bdmurrayalthough I think there needs to be some changes to ubuntu-release-upgrader for S18:32
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phillwHi, just a quick question, there is not an AMD64-MAC netboot iso listed (nor was there for 13.04). I'm just tidying up our minimal install page which uses those Iso's and cannot find one.20:21
cjwatsonThat's right.20:23
cjwatsonPerhaps we ought to (roughly the same reasoning applies), but it's never been important enough to justify the work since the netboot ISO is mostly a convenience thing and real network deployments use PXE anyway.20:25
phillwcjwatson: with the inability to install from an alternate image now. I'd not lose any sleep over it :/20:26
phillwwell, actually that may be wrong.. but you can no longer upgrade20:27
infinitycjwatson: Are there still master plans to purge amd64+mac with fire, or have we given up the fight?20:28
cjwatsonslangasek owned that, last I checked20:28
cjwatsonMay have deferred it a bit20:28
* infinity nods.20:28
phillwoh? is there no longer a need of amd64+mac? (me thinks 2 less sets of iso's for lubuntu to test :) )20:30
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stgraberphillw: there's currently still a need for it. infinity just asked what was the progress on making amd64 images bootable on mac which would then allow us to get rid of amd64+mac20:35
phillwstgraber: from my very limited knowledge, it is to do with EFI (the precurser UEFI). But, I know little of the tweaks needed :)20:37
cjwatsonphillw: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image contains a technical explanation from me20:38
cjwatsonBut I think a reasonably comprehensible one20:39
phillwcjwatson: I can't believe it! I was actually close in my understanding of the difference. That is pretty close to 1st for me!20:41
cjwatsonheh, ok :)20:43
phillwI'll go and 'blow some minds' on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/Why_So_Many_ISOs#AMD64.2B-Mac which was pointing to https://answers.launchpad.net/mactel-support/+question/162838 Yours seems a much better explantion20:45
phillwcjwatson: no mad rush, but can you check you are happy with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/Why_So_Many_ISOs/#AMD64.2B-Mac and the link it points to (basically, I changed your email to your nick on this channel).21:00
cjwatsonphillw: the summary wasn't really accurate - it's EFI vs. UEFI is irrelevant, the problem is that it can't cope with hybrid images.  I've rewritten that part21:02
cjwatsonphillw: I would prefer that you linked to askubuntu.com directly rather than copying my answer into the wiki, please21:02
phillwokies, I'll change the link :)21:03
phillwcjwatson: I'm an old hand on ubuntu forum so I can point directly to an answer. Is this possible with askubuntu?21:04
adam_gzul,  i need to do a glanceclient upload, is sdist okay for generating the upstream tarball from master?21:05
cjwatsonphillw: there's a "share" link below the answer21:05
zuladam_g:  yep21:05
phillwfound it :)21:06
phillwcool, I'll know that in future (I'm a forum user :) ) Again, thanks,21:08
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phillwScottK: are you xubuntu ?21:47
phillwdrat, who is it now?21:48
phillwRiddell: are you xubuntu?21:49
Riddellphillw: nope21:49
Riddell /join #xubuntu might be the way to find out21:49
phillwahh, of all the names.... it is knome !21:50
phillwknome: I've got an incoming email to your group which seems to apply to both lubuntu and xubuntu. I'm not sure if I posting rights to your dev-mailing list so it may need approving.21:52
phillwRiddell: ScottK https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Leaders :)21:52
ScottKphillw: We already knew we weren't Xubuntu leaders, no need to tell us.22:06
knomephillw, i don't see any pending mail22:37
phillwknome: it was sent to xubuntu-dev@lists.launchpad.net22:44
knomehmm, i don't think that list exists. our is xubuntu-devel@..22:44
knomephillw, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel22:45
phillwknome: IDK if there is a more up to date listing, I got that from https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev22:45
ScottKHe just gave you a more up to date listing.22:46
phillwknome: maybe update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Leaders ?22:46
knomephillw, with what?22:46
phillwScottK: indeed he did, but I'm using the wiki area, which most people would :)22:47
ScottKNo.  You're not.22:47
knomei don't actually know why the xubuntu-dev team in LP even has a mailing list22:48
knomeit never occurred to me it has one, or that anybody would use it22:48
phillwknome: it is the one listed on the wiki page, so it is one I used?22:48
ScottKNo.  It's not.22:51
ScottKIt's listed on the launchpad page.22:51
ScottKlists.ubuntu.com is the normal place to start looking for such lists.22:51
NoskcajScottK, it is? to anyone new to ubuntu, whatever is on the wiki would be where you go22:53
ScottKRight, but the wiki doesn't mention the LP mailing list, so it's unrelated.22:54
phillwI follow the links on  the wiki pages, sorry if that seems a daft way to track down on of our family flavours to get in touch with. i must be old fashioned :D22:58
ScottKNew, I think just clicking on links without thinking much about it is the new way.22:59
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slangasekScottK, apachelogger: kubuntu-settings... so I'm happy to accept this workaround into raring, but what's the correct long-term fix?23:49
slangasekI don't understand why update-grub gets called with wrong input at install time currently23:49
* ScottK looks at apachelogger.23:50
slangasekinfinity, cjwatson: yep, I still have some purty Mac hardware at home that I'm supposed to be using to iterate CD stuff on so we can ditch amd64+mac.... but I can't remember where I buried my tuits23:53

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