| ScottK | cjwatson: OK. It seemed odd I'd get an email from LP about something I'd uploaded to Debain and not touched. | 00:30 |
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| xnox | cjwatson: ScottK: kdepim is the highest dependency chain in boost transition. I will check if i can fast track that branch of the transition quicker. | 06:08 |
| apachelogger | slangasek, ScottK: it helps not having multiple bug reports on the same issue ... bug 1172534 ... I reached the same conclusion though, for some reason ubiquity/d-i ends up creating a grub.cfg without quite splash, which may or may not be related to us overriding GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR via /etc/default/grub.d | 10:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1172534 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "plymouth boot splash does not show on an installed system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172534 | 10:07 |
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| ScottK | slangasek: Would you please review the kubuntu-settings upload for raring? | 13:16 |
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| bdmurray | I'm adding saucy to the meta-release-development file since someone wants to upgrade badly | 18:29 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Works for me. | 18:31 |
| bdmurray | although I think there needs to be some changes to ubuntu-release-upgrader for S | 18:32 |
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| phillw | Hi, just a quick question, there is not an AMD64-MAC netboot iso listed (nor was there for 13.04). I'm just tidying up our minimal install page which uses those Iso's and cannot find one. | 20:21 |
| cjwatson | That's right. | 20:23 |
| cjwatson | Perhaps we ought to (roughly the same reasoning applies), but it's never been important enough to justify the work since the netboot ISO is mostly a convenience thing and real network deployments use PXE anyway. | 20:25 |
| phillw | cjwatson: with the inability to install from an alternate image now. I'd not lose any sleep over it :/ | 20:26 |
| phillw | well, actually that may be wrong.. but you can no longer upgrade | 20:27 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Are there still master plans to purge amd64+mac with fire, or have we given up the fight? | 20:28 |
| cjwatson | slangasek owned that, last I checked | 20:28 |
| cjwatson | May have deferred it a bit | 20:28 |
| * infinity nods. | 20:28 | |
| phillw | oh? is there no longer a need of amd64+mac? (me thinks 2 less sets of iso's for lubuntu to test :) ) | 20:30 |
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| stgraber | phillw: there's currently still a need for it. infinity just asked what was the progress on making amd64 images bootable on mac which would then allow us to get rid of amd64+mac | 20:35 |
| phillw | stgraber: from my very limited knowledge, it is to do with EFI (the precurser UEFI). But, I know little of the tweaks needed :) | 20:37 |
| cjwatson | phillw: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image contains a technical explanation from me | 20:38 |
| cjwatson | But I think a reasonably comprehensible one | 20:39 |
| phillw | cjwatson: I can't believe it! I was actually close in my understanding of the difference. That is pretty close to 1st for me! | 20:41 |
| phillw | thanks | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | heh, ok :) | 20:43 |
| phillw | I'll go and 'blow some minds' on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/Why_So_Many_ISOs#AMD64.2B-Mac which was pointing to https://answers.launchpad.net/mactel-support/+question/162838 Yours seems a much better explantion | 20:45 |
| phillw | cjwatson: no mad rush, but can you check you are happy with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/Why_So_Many_ISOs/#AMD64.2B-Mac and the link it points to (basically, I changed your email to your nick on this channel). | 21:00 |
| cjwatson | phillw: the summary wasn't really accurate - it's EFI vs. UEFI is irrelevant, the problem is that it can't cope with hybrid images. I've rewritten that part | 21:02 |
| cjwatson | phillw: I would prefer that you linked to askubuntu.com directly rather than copying my answer into the wiki, please | 21:02 |
| phillw | okies, I'll change the link :) | 21:03 |
| phillw | cjwatson: I'm an old hand on ubuntu forum so I can point directly to an answer. Is this possible with askubuntu? | 21:04 |
| adam_g | zul, i need to do a glanceclient upload, is sdist okay for generating the upstream tarball from master? | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | phillw: there's a "share" link below the answer | 21:05 |
| zul | adam_g: yep | 21:05 |
| phillw | found it :) | 21:06 |
| phillw | cool, I'll know that in future (I'm a forum user :) ) Again, thanks, | 21:08 |
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| phillw | ScottK: are you xubuntu ? | 21:47 |
| ScottK | No. | 21:47 |
| phillw | drat, who is it now? | 21:48 |
| phillw | Riddell: are you xubuntu? | 21:49 |
| Riddell | phillw: nope | 21:49 |
| Riddell | /join #xubuntu might be the way to find out | 21:49 |
| phillw | ahh, of all the names.... it is knome ! | 21:50 |
| phillw | knome: I've got an incoming email to your group which seems to apply to both lubuntu and xubuntu. I'm not sure if I posting rights to your dev-mailing list so it may need approving. | 21:52 |
| phillw | Riddell: ScottK https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Leaders :) | 21:52 |
| ScottK | phillw: We already knew we weren't Xubuntu leaders, no need to tell us. | 22:06 |
| knome | phillw? | 22:36 |
| knome | phillw, i don't see any pending mail | 22:37 |
| phillw | knome: it was sent to xubuntu-dev@lists.launchpad.net | 22:44 |
| knome | hmm, i don't think that list exists. our is xubuntu-devel@.. | 22:44 |
| knome | phillw, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel | 22:45 |
| phillw | knome: IDK if there is a more up to date listing, I got that from https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev | 22:45 |
| ScottK | He just gave you a more up to date listing. | 22:46 |
| knome | hmm. | 22:46 |
| phillw | knome: maybe update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Leaders ? | 22:46 |
| knome | phillw, with what? | 22:46 |
| phillw | ScottK: indeed he did, but I'm using the wiki area, which most people would :) | 22:47 |
| ScottK | No. You're not. | 22:47 |
| knome | i don't actually know why the xubuntu-dev team in LP even has a mailing list | 22:48 |
| knome | it never occurred to me it has one, or that anybody would use it | 22:48 |
| phillw | knome: it is the one listed on the wiki page, so it is one I used? | 22:48 |
| ScottK | No. It's not. | 22:51 |
| ScottK | It's listed on the launchpad page. | 22:51 |
| ScottK | lists.ubuntu.com is the normal place to start looking for such lists. | 22:51 |
| Noskcaj | ScottK, it is? to anyone new to ubuntu, whatever is on the wiki would be where you go | 22:53 |
| ScottK | Right, but the wiki doesn't mention the LP mailing list, so it's unrelated. | 22:54 |
| phillw | I follow the links on the wiki pages, sorry if that seems a daft way to track down on of our family flavours to get in touch with. i must be old fashioned :D | 22:58 |
| ScottK | New, I think just clicking on links without thinking much about it is the new way. | 22:59 |
| ScottK | New/No | 22:59 |
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| slangasek | ScottK, apachelogger: kubuntu-settings... so I'm happy to accept this workaround into raring, but what's the correct long-term fix? | 23:49 |
| slangasek | I don't understand why update-grub gets called with wrong input at install time currently | 23:49 |
| * ScottK looks at apachelogger. | 23:50 | |
| slangasek | infinity, cjwatson: yep, I still have some purty Mac hardware at home that I'm supposed to be using to iterate CD stuff on so we can ditch amd64+mac.... but I can't remember where I buried my tuits | 23:53 |
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