=== XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [04:16] Has here been an update since release? Seems to have died down [04:55] hey guys [04:55] I had a little question, is the ubuntu touch preview still a "work in progress" rom? [05:36] itll be a work in progress until the end of October, and even then it won't probably be 100 percent stable/feature-rich until April 2014 [05:36] slipkn0t [10:48] Hi all, I need your help with porting. If there is anyone who can help me please let me know [10:51] I have done all written at Touch/Porting but Ubuntu wont boot and I dont understand 100% one of the steps [11:00] Is there no one here who can help?!? I know I sound a little frustrated but I have been trying to port this now for 2 weeks and with no success CM works and boots but Ubuntu Touch dont... [11:05] elvito, you should just ask specifically, stating what your issue is, and what exactly is not working [11:06] and asking on the ubuntu-phone mailing list may be more helpful if you have lots of logs to attach or many details to share [11:06] and what errors appear, what messages [11:07] Okay, I have an LG P880, have custom recovery and CM10.1. I have followed all steps apart from the build/core/main.mk becausde I dont understand what I need to do there. I am getting no errors and after flashing the image the phone stays on the logo and just wont boot. Cant even get into adb console [11:08] elvito, I think the build/core bits may not even be needed anymore, may be some legacy docs [11:09] elvito, stays on the OEM logo and won't boot? [11:09] Does the custom recovery build out of Ubuntu Touch sources work? [11:10] yes on the initial logo, also sometimes it goes into a reboot loop afetr the logo. Yes the reci [11:10] recovery image can be flashed and works [11:11] no messages tho and bootloader state is unlocked [11:11] elvito, after a failed boot go into recovery and see if you can see anything interesting in /proc/last_kmsg [11:12] got that, one sec [11:12] that is supposed to be the kernel log of the failed boot [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Linux version 3.1.10-CM+ (hudson@koushik-lion) (gcc version 4.6.x-google 20120106 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 16 15:33:03 PDT 2013 [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [412fc099] revision 9 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387d [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] CPU: VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing instruction cache [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Machine: x3 [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x41000801 [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x41000801 [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x41000801 [11:12] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000]`Ignoring unrecognised tac 0x41000801 [11:12] [7p:01:01 00:00*00.000] Ignorifg unrecognisd tag 0x41000801 [11:13] [70:01:01 00: 0:00.000\ Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x41000801 [11:13] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x41000801 [11:13] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Found tegra_fbmem: 00708b40@ace23000 [11:13] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Tegra reserved memory: [11:13] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] LP0: b6005000 - b6006fff [11:13] [70:01:01 00:00:00.000] Bootloader framebuffer: ace23000 - ad52bfff [11:13] elvito, better use a pastebin for large walls of text [11:13] !paste | elvito [11:13] elvito: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:13] what client has this working, I mean, if I tried to paste this to konversation, it would disconnect me because of flooding [11:15] I am pretty new to IRC so sorry I did not know :( [11:16] elvito: you are now unmuted again. please paste your stuff into a pastebin [11:16] and then show the url in here [11:16] the text is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615577/ [11:19] It does not show alot of output but that is the whole text === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [11:26] elvito, so this is all that is in /proc/last_kmsg ? [11:26] not much indeed [11:27] elvito, are you using the same kernel binary as the working recovery image? [11:28] I will take a look.... [11:28] elvito, if recovery boots fine, then a regular boot.img should at least progress further with the same kernel === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [11:49] should be the same file. all is compiled using the brunch command and the filesizes for the boot.img match up [11:50] the kernel is in the boot.img and in the recovery,img and I also have a kernel file compiled outside of them just called kernel with no extension === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === wiliam_ is now known as wiliam === Guest14702 is now known as w00t === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === gatox is now known as gatox_away === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones === _salem is now known as salem_ === gatox_away is now known as gatox === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [15:33] any idea when there will be a useable version of touch for asus transformers? === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [15:41] bzoltan, ping :) [15:42] good moring bobweaver :) [15:42] bobweaver: I am in UTC-8 for this week :) [15:43] cool [15:43] what is that westcoast USA ? [15:43] at any rate I fixed and finshed the qdoc stuff [15:44] ping me back when you are up and have the time to take a look at it thanks bzoltan [15:48] Here is bug that I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1174116 [15:48] Launchpad bug 1174116 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "There is no Qt Creator Documentation " [Undecided,In progress] [15:49] Here is branch for merge https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/QtCreator_Help_Plugins/+merge/161353 [15:54] bobweaver: I am on the west coast [15:54] have fun well you are there bay area ? [15:55] west coast is cool I lived out there for over 10 years owned property in nor cal [15:55] went to school out there also though in WA === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:59] yes, in Oakland [16:03] has somebody get works swipe down with 4 fingers on ubuntu 13.04 64 bits ? [16:04] i have elantech touchpad [16:06] diegocarrera: this is the channel for the new Ubuntu on phones and tablets, you need the #ubuntu channel for general help, or ask.ubuntu.com is another option. [16:07] that is cool bzoltan are you going to have a chance to go to santa cruz ? henry cowell park is nice [16:07] ohh, thanks davmor2 [16:08] bzoltan, there is also pizza my heart which is real good pizza (I am from new york so that means something :P ) [16:09] mhall119: is it not possible to try out the core apps without installing the ubuntu-sdk in 13.04? A user is experiencing the error "qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmlscene': No such file or directory" when running the core apps. [16:10] nik90: he needs at least the Qt5 packages, which I think are all in the 13.04 archives [16:10] nik90, qmlsceen for qt4 ? [16:10] qtviewer ? [16:10] no, qt5 [16:10] nik90, looks like you got the wrong path them [16:10] the core apps all require qt5 [16:11] mhall119: does qt5 come preinstalled with 13.04? [16:11] qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4 should be qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5 [16:11] nik90: I don't think so [16:11] bobweaver: strangely I did have not have that error [16:11] nik90: have him install qmlscene and qtchooser package [16:12] mhall119: do you know their package names? [16:12] those are the package names [16:12] mhall119: or should it just be sudo apt-get install qt5? [16:12] ah ok [16:12] nik90, I would also make sure that there is nothing funny going on in bashrc or anything like that [16:12] not sure why it is not calling the correct dir unless it was set wrong on compile [16:12] bobweaver: this is just another user looking to test the core apps. So I am pretty sure he didnt mess with his bashrc [16:13] bobweaver: without qt5 installed, /usr/bin/qmlscene will only try to use qt4 [16:13] I think [16:13] mhall119: I told him to install the ubuntu-sdk ppa and package from developer.ubuntu.com and now it works fine [16:13] nik90, then also look at toolkits and qtversions and make sure that the path to qmake is right [16:13] with those other packages installed, it should try qt5 [16:13] nik90, great [16:13] so I guess the ubuntu-sdk installs qtchooser and qmlscene package [16:13] bobweaver, mhall119: thnx for ur help [16:13] nik90: it should yes [16:14] that is meata package mhall119 for qt5 and sdk stuff ? [16:14] meta* [16:14] bobweaver: which one? [16:14] mhall119, you might like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9t1I1kZZM [16:14] mhall119, "ubuntu-sdk" [16:15] bobweaver: yeah, it installs al the -dev packages and stuff too [16:15] mhall119, cool thanks [16:15] bobweaver: are those docs loading from local files, or from developer.ubuntu.com? [16:16] mhall119, nope [16:16] it qdoc-> qhp-> qch [16:16] what did you need to do to get that working? [16:17] reads the code in ubuntu-ui-toolkit makes docs (html) then makes qhp file then I run qhelpgenerator to make it compress all [16:17] mhall119, qtcreator and ubuntu sdk [16:17] mhall119, want to try out ? [16:17] yes! [16:18] mhall119, cd YOUR/DEV/AREA/ [16:18] mhall119, bzr branch lp:~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/QtCreator_Help_Plugins [16:18] bobweaver: looks amazing! This would make it so much easier to refer to ubuntu sdk documentation. [16:19] bobweaver: done [16:19] mhall119, cd $src/documentation [16:20] ok [16:20] mhall119, qdoc ubuntu-ui-toolkit-components.qdocconf [16:20] woops [16:20] mhall119, qdoc ubuntu-ui-toolkit-common.qdocconf [16:20] sorry had wrong file name [16:20] bobweaver: there seems to be some header text overlap [16:20] bobweaver: ok, done [16:20] mhall119, cd html [16:20] bobweaver: is this a branch of lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit? [16:21] mhall119, yeah [16:21] altered [16:21] mhall119, qhelpgenerator ubuntuuitoolkit.qhp -o ubuntuuitoolkit.qch [16:22] then open qtcreator go to tools -->options -->help -->doc--> add then add the ubuntuuitoolkit.qch file that you just made. then press apply and restart qtcreator [16:22] that is it [16:23] nik90, the text over;lap is css stuff [16:23] bobweaver: I don't have ubuntuuitoolkit.qhp [16:23] nik90, the directions I just gave mhall119 has no css [16:23] mhall119, what is pwd ? [16:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5616395/ is the output I got from the qdoc command [16:23] ~/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/QtCreator_Help_Plugins/documentation [16:23] is pwd [16:24] it is in html [16:24] cd ~/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/QtCreator_Help_Plugins/documentation/html [16:24] ah, ok [16:24] then run qhelpgenerator ubuntuuitoolkit.qhp -o ubuntuuitoolkit.qch [16:24] -o is output file call it what ever you like [16:25] works! thanks bobweaver [16:26] mhall119, them warning that you are seeing are because some of the c++ stuff is not doced all the way [16:26] bzoltan: can we get this working in the SDK packageS? [16:26] :) [16:27] mhall119, I also have patches for css but I am not good designer so that should be left up to others [16:27] nik90, ^^ [16:27] bobweaver: we already have some for these docs that were used on developer.ubuntu.com [16:27] mhall119: Definitely yes. We do some testing, review and will merge it [16:27] on http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/overview-ubuntu-sdk.html [16:27] bzoltan: thanks! [16:28] bzoltan: if you can use the CSS that was applied for developer.u.c, that would be even better [16:28] mhall119, yeah but the css is not working 100% there are many bugs (because it is not brpwser and qtcreator ) [16:28] mhall119, bzr branch lp:~josephjamesmills/+junk/css_patches [16:28] bobweaver: still an improvement, we can fix the small things as we go [16:28] ugly hacks ^^ [16:29] the css part that is [16:29] bobweaver: have you posted that video on G+? [16:29] no [16:29] mind if I do? [16:29] have at it [16:29] mhall119, I also have virtual machines for ubuntu sdk custom wizards and alot more stuff ! [16:30] bobweaver: I've seen those, but will leave it to bzoltan and his team on how to integrate that kind of stuff [16:30] like C++ wizards for tabs and simple ect with packaging and what not [16:31] bzoltan, if you like I can make a real good qhp file that is better then the on that gets generated via qdocconf [16:32] bobweaver: he's at a sprint in Oakland this week, so it'll probably get put on a TODO list for later [16:32] mhall119: bobweaver: Yes === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away [16:35] mhall119, if you would like to make a better one the ubuntu-ui-toolkit-common.qdocconf is just a common file that can act on other qdocconf files (include) so you can run qdoc ubuntu-ui-toolkit-offline.qdocconf this will add header and footer to help pages [16:39] mhall119, I am also going to do HUD friends and Browser and well everything that i can get my hands on === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:02] rsalveti: pingly [17:02] rsalveti: I've been redirected towards you regarding the N10 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:34] mhall119, you do not know someone that you can talk to about adding libfriends-qml and hud-qt to the api/qml/mobile section of developer.ubuntu.com do you ? [17:39] bobweaver: I'm that guy, I already know that friends and accounts are ready to go, I just need to copy them up [17:39] mhall119, if you like I just made branch to that and am making Hud-qt now [17:40] it is in the superfriends branch === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [17:52] bobweaver: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/friends/qmlmodule-friends0-friends-0-1.html [17:52] \o/ [17:52] mhall119, you might like http://imagebin.org/255799 [17:52] now to make browser [17:52] hud friends and sdk are done [18:00] hi [18:00] am i right here for ubuntu on nexus7? [18:01] yeah [18:03] is it easy? [18:04] debdeb, Depends on your definition of easy, these loads whether the ubuntu touch or desktops are in development, so limited in full use. [18:05] On a nexus 7 which has limited ram can wont be anything like an android rom as far as usage. [18:10] limited ram? doesnt it have 2gb? [18:11] but nevermind [18:11] i have seen an app which installs ubuntu on nexus running in a chroot [18:12] now... is it possible to use a normal monitor with it? [18:13] through some hdmi-output or through usb-otg -> usb-hdmi-converter (an external graphiccard for usb) [18:16] debdeb, what about UPnP do you have something for that ? [18:16] debdeb, I use on my nexus 7 everyday (touch and other things ) [18:17] no. how does it work? [18:17] I think I am quad booting atm [18:18] quad-booting? = 2*dual-boot? ^^ [18:18] debdeb, http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver/ [18:18] yeah I use multirom for booting device [18:18] it is on xda [18:19] nice2know that it works [18:19] debdeb, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 [18:20] works great I have paranoid android , ubuntu Touch , my own image and stock atm to boot into [18:21] my network is not that great so streaming is not all that it is cracked up to be to tv (projector in my case running altered Ubuntu TV ) === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away [18:21] debdeb, I say that work around for hdmi is to buy different device TBH maybe the 10 ? [18:23] no option. only nexus 7 [18:23] but i would exchange it for a 10 ^^ [18:24] debdeb, well maybe DNLa or UPnP U bet that that will kill batt like crazy though [18:24] bobweaver, Yeah I have multiple images on my nexus as well I use the rom mangaer. [18:24] battery is no problem in docking [18:25] does anyone know if qt has a cross-platform class/function/whatever that wraps uname() on *nix and whatever it is on win/osx/etc… that spits out a useful object to get machine name and other info? [18:25] for tv I like mythtv frontend And I have wrote a remote to connect to frontends and I can control record paus well everything that a dvr can do [18:25] i just want to use it like a desktop [18:25] doanac, cmake ? [18:25] dobey, * cmake ? [18:26] dobey, what are you trying to do ? [18:26] bobweaver: no, not a build system, or the terminal command. the system call [18:26] ahhh... nice... that use kexec [18:26] bobweaver: get the local machine name in a QString() [18:27] which brings me to another projject... [18:27] bobweaver: basically a qt version of what "man 2 uname" gives (because I don't want to deal with the low level C bits, and end up with something that doesn't work on other platforms) [18:27] you could run extrenal command in QProsses [18:27] minimal-initrd wich sshd... which gives menu... whick kexec to another kernel [18:27] like grub over ssh [18:27] bobweaver: i can't, because cross-platform :) [18:27] :( [18:28] otherwise i'd just use uname() [18:28] you can not make case statement to test all or qprosses no go at all on osx /me is osx n00b [18:29] i don't want to write the code that should be in qt itself anyway, no. shouldn't have to run an external process or write a bunch of code for this :-/ [18:32] ah [18:32] finally found something useful [18:32] https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtnetwork/qhostinfo.html#localHostName [18:32] dobey, you have looked at all the docs for qmobility ? [18:33] nm nice [18:33] bobweaver: no, i did like 10 different searches on duckduckgo and the digia qt docs site and didn't come up with anything. and just now finally found that one [18:36] dobey, if you want to stick to the qml maybe look at that I found this on google http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qtmobility/qml-deviceinfo.html#model-prop [18:36] Not sure is it is supported on touch though [18:37] IE not sure if it is installed stock === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [20:11] hello [20:11] hi all... I have installed Qt creator with ubuntu sdk, and I am following a guide (http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/mobile/currency-converter-phone-app/) which tells me to create a Ubuntu-UI template; but I can't because I don't have this option in my QT. why? [20:14] alo21: hi [20:14] nik90, hi [20:14] alo21: In qtcreator, when you press Ctrl+n, do you see Ubuntu Touch listed as one of the type of a project? [20:15] nik90, no [20:15] can you take a screenshot of what you see when you press Ctrl + n for me. It will give us a better idea of what you are facing. [20:17] nik90, sure... take a look: http://ubuntuone.com/6WrS19hgFuDscHTeM2kh3S [20:18] alo21: hmm..that wierd. May I ask if you installed the Ubuntu-SDK package as described in developer.ubuntu.com? [20:20] nik90, I run the command which is written in developer.ubuntu.com. Then, to be sure, I checked on USC and the checkbox is checked [20:20] as a Qt's plug-in [20:20] alo21: you are referring to the ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa? [20:20] ok [20:21] so it means that is really installed (I think) [20:22] mhall119: Can I get your help on alo21's issue? [20:22] alo21: are you running 13.04? [20:23] nik90, yes [20:23] alo21: when did you first install the Ubuntu SDK? === Robbilie__ is now known as Robbilie [20:24] mhall119, I run this command ( sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk ) first, then I installed Qt Creator [20:24] mhall119: really wierd...he is runnning 13.04, has the Ubuntu plugin for Qtcreator. [20:25] yeah, he's missing more than just the Ubuntu Touch project though, there should also be "Applications" and "Libraries" in the Projects list, and those come from Qt itself [20:26] alo21: try running "sudo apt-get install --fix-policy" and see if that wants to install anything [20:27] alo21: when did you first install it? [20:28] mhall119, just now... few mins ago [20:28] very strange indeed [20:30] mhall119, running "sudo apt-get install --fix-policy" it wants to install a lot of things... Should I install them? [20:31] what things? [20:31] mhall119, most are related to java [20:31] ... all of them [20:32] can you copy the output, paste them in pastebinit and then share them here [20:32] then you don't need them, not for the SDK to work anyway [20:32] wait.. sorry [20:32] yeah... in fact I made a mistake. I am going to paste the output on ubuntu [20:32] alo21: do you have qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu installed? [20:33] mhall119, yes I do... this is the output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5617215/ [20:33] alo21: you can check if you have qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu installed by running "apt-cache policy qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu" in the terminal [20:33] ok..nvr mind === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [20:35] I don't see anything SDK related in there [20:35] run the apt-cache policy command nik90 suggested [20:37] mhall119, nik90 qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu policy output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5617226/ [20:37] well....huh [20:37] alo21: what is in your $PATH variable? [20:38] mhall119, dev [20:38] no, mean echo $PATH and paste the output [20:39] mhall119, oh.. sorry. My path is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5617237/ === A-TCP-BreAKDoWN is now known as An-IP-BreAKDoWN [20:47] ah ha! [20:47] alo21: remove the /opt/qt5/bin, it's probably in your ~/.bashrc file [20:49] mhall119, done... now? [20:50] alo21: now check if that fixed the problem in your qtcreator. you might want to restart qtcreator [20:51] nik90, Do I have to reload .basshrc file first? [20:51] alo21: I dont think so, since it gets reloaded when you restart the terminal automatically [20:52] nik90, I restarted Qt, and I still have the same issue [20:52] hey guys, i'm trying to run mediaplayer-app [20:52] alo21: lets wait for mhall119 then :) [20:53] and Qt is complaining about am issing SDKHelper, anyone have any clue where it is? [20:53] nik90, ok...thanks [20:54] any ideas/ [20:56] matzipan: you might want to ask the question more earlier since this time of the day, many must have gone home :( [20:57] hmmm... well, i just got home too [20:57] alo21: the only thing I can suggest now is to apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-sdk and try re-installing it [20:58] mhall119, what is going on with qtcreator ? [21:00] bobweaver: alo21 seems to have installed older stuff that was installing to /opt/qt5/bin [21:00] which is messing things up for him [21:01] I see and he has purged the software that is installed on that ppa then rm ppa then add new ppa then reinstall ? [21:02] or just install the new ppa if deps allow and point qmake to the correct one then make toolkit for it [21:02] IDK if deps allow that though ? [21:03] mhall119, wait... if .bashrc is inside my home... and I had installed ubuntu sdk mothsa go; that file remained there because the Home folder is always the same, but not the OS [21:03] mhall119, so... this is way (no I am remembering) I have old configuration file inside my Home folder [21:05] mhall119, bobweaver: maybe alo21 needs to remove the qtcreator config files. [21:05] alo21, maybe you would like to pastebin your ~/.bashrc [21:05] mhall119, bobweaver: I remember the old qtcreator files messing my system before..and popey asked me to remove them. And then everything worked perfectly [21:06] and what is output of "whereis qmak" [21:06] er [21:06] whereis qmake [21:06] nik90, I am sure that that would work unless toolkit and qmake versions are not set up in the correct place [21:07] one can have 50 qt versions installed I have the old one in opt still on this machine [21:07] bobweaver, mu bashrc output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5617328/. whereis qmake: qmake: /usr/bin/qmake /usr/bin/X11/qmake [21:08] my* [21:08] alo21, bashrc is fine you should be able to un-install (--purge) and rm ppa and then add correct ppa and also packages [21:09] like nik90 was saying and mhall119 [21:09] alo21, I use synaptic and filter by repo or usc [21:10] bobweaver filter with 'ubuntu-sdk'? [21:11] alo21, like this http://imagebin.org/255838 [21:12] you should have a different one installed like qt-beta or something like that if my mem don't need mem test [21:15] I have to... I will try it after... thanks and bye === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [21:28] hey guys, anyone from the ubuntu-sdk team? [21:38] anyone familiar with the SDKHelper qt component? I'm trying to run an app that depends on it. It cannot find it... === jasoncwarner__ is now known as jasoncwarner [21:42] anyone familiar with the SDKHelper qt component? I'm trying to run an app that depends on it. It cannot find it... === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk [22:36] wilee-nilee: I guess I should query you here instead :) [22:38] keithzg, Maybe but I'm not an expert. [22:38] wilee-nilee: Yeah, I know dual-boot on a Nexus 7 is totally different (and much more complicated) than on a standard PC. But anyways, I want some method of ROM control before I do anything. [22:39] Mostly I'm just completely baffled that I can't get into recovery mode. Everything on the internet is just "hey, hold down these buttons and it'll boot into it" and I did so with my previous Nexus 7 (that I sadly dropped). But this one, zilch. [22:40] keithzg, Personally I just run android roms at this time I have tried the touch and desktops, but they are still in development. IN general I use the rom manager to image my various roms and the google nexus 7 toolkit in windows to load and save stuff and root. [22:41] wilee-nilee: Yeah, but . . . how would I even install ROM Manager, if I can't boot into recovery? [22:44] keithzg, You are holding down the volume keys and hitting the power button? And what led you to this? [22:44] can you boot the rom? [22:44] Well, I'm still on stock, albeit rooted. [22:45] keithzg, The rom manager is at google play, there are other ways to manage roms as well. [22:45] But Rom Manager doesn't work without root. [22:46] keithzg, Right but you're rooted, all you have to do to use it is root your installs [22:47] Err, sorry, I misspoke earlier. I've unlocked, but I haven't rooted yet. [22:47] keithzg, You can install the cynanogenmod recovery and load anything rooted or not. [22:47] I can neither boot into fastboot nor into recovery mode. [22:47] And I am teh baffled as to why it doesn't work. [22:48] keithzg, Ah, have you turned on the android debugging in the development? [22:48] Yup. [22:49] keithzg, YOU can boot to the rom though right? [22:49] wilee-nilee: I can boot into stock Android, yes [22:51] keithzg, I forget how I got all that figured out now, but I thought that the nexus stock will let you get to the recovery via with it off holding down both the up and down of the volume then hitting power to get to start then use the volume keys to het to recovery and then power again. [22:52] wilee-nilee: Yeah, I thought so too. But I do that and nothing happens. Zilch. Zero. No effect. Arghh. [22:52] keithzg, ASk on the #android channel probably [22:58] wilee-nilee: no need in the end, "adb --help" spit out the information on the commands I might need, guess I can just do it that way :) Thanks for your help, though! [23:12] rsalveti: do you happen to know if Box2D and it's QML plugin will work on Ubuntu Touch under surfaceflinger and Mir? [23:12] http://gitorious.org/qml-box2d [23:16] mhall119: hm, it might just work [23:16] depends if it's using gles or not [23:16] mhall119: give it a try [23:18] I don't think it uses GL at all [23:18] it's strictly 2d physics [23:18] like, Angry-birds style physics [23:19] in fact, it's the physics engine behind angry birds [23:19] at least the first one [23:21] it looks like we might already have it packaged, libbox2d [23:21] so all we'd need is the QML bindings [23:23] though perhaps the version we have is a bit old === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [23:35] mhall119: so it might be just fine === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle