vemacs | Hello, I'm not a Compiz developer, or somebody who knows anything about window managers | 00:07 |
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vemacs | But here's a bitesize bug that pisses me, as an interface designer, seriously off: | 00:07 |
vemacs | http://redd.it/1dax9f | 00:07 |
vemacs | Given that you guys probably know more than I do about this | 00:08 |
vemacs | And that there's a "fix" already implemented | 00:08 |
vemacs | I'm kind of disappointed that Ubuntu can't even approach the polish of the first rendition of OS X. | 00:08 |
vemacs | As a side note, not that I can do this | 00:09 |
vemacs | But elementary OS's inhouse libmutter-based WM has a fix for this | 00:09 |
vemacs | And possibly translucent window bordering to avoid background clashes, instead of the current gradient. | 00:09 |
vemacs | Any thoughts for making this a priority for the current development cycle? | 00:10 |
IReboot | vemacs: You will not find anyone in this channel until the Monday work day GST. You many find Canonical employees here and they are having the usual weekend days off. | 00:12 |
vemacs | IReboot: Alright, would bumping the launchpad bug help? | 00:12 |
vemacs | Assuming they can be "bumped". | 00:12 |
IReboot | No idea | 00:12 |
vemacs | Well, I think that non-canonical employees can still help :) | 00:13 |
IReboot | Probably, I have this channel open for over 14 hours and yours are the first entries. | 00:14 |
nik90 | vemacs: one of the reason it will continue to have low priority is that in 14.04 (1 year from now) Ubuntu will use Mir and not Compiz. | 00:14 |
nik90 | so the fix for this bug will be useless once mir is used | 00:14 |
nik90 | meaning it is better of to see that this bug is fixed for 14.04 | 00:15 |
vemacs | nik90: Is Mir like X, where you can run compiz off of it? | 00:15 |
vemacs | Or is it like Wayland, where the DS is the WM? | 00:15 |
ernani | does anyone know how to disable global menu in unity? | 00:15 |
vemacs | ernani: sudo apt-get autoremove appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt | 00:16 |
nik90 | vemacs: You wont be able to run Compiz on Mir. Mir is more like Wayland, meaning Compiz will have too be patched to run on Wayland or Mir | 00:16 |
vemacs | nik90: Okay. Another semi-related bug, but this isn't Compiz-specific. | 00:16 |
nik90 | vemacs: go ahead | 00:16 |
vemacs | Basically, you know the strokes around the windows? | 00:16 |
vemacs | Between the shadow and the border? | 00:16 |
vemacs | Do you see the black-to-grey gradient there? | 00:16 |
nik90 | yeah | 00:17 |
vemacs | Too lazy to find a wallpaper that's light now | 00:17 |
vemacs | But here's the overall effect | 00:17 |
vemacs | http://opensas.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/my-desktop.png | 00:17 |
vemacs | Not my desktop, btw | 00:17 |
nik90 | I am guessing you are referring to the shadow | 00:18 |
vemacs | It really clashes | 00:18 |
vemacs | And OS X, Windows, and I think KDE | 00:18 |
vemacs | Not the shadow. | 00:18 |
vemacs | The border. | 00:18 |
vemacs | Anyways, OS X, Windows, and KDE | 00:18 |
vemacs | Instead of having an opaque stroke | 00:18 |
vemacs | They use a stroke with an approximately 75% translucency with multiply blending | 00:18 |
vemacs | To prevent clashes between light wallpapers and light window borders. | 00:19 |
ernani | thanks vemacs, i'll try that. | 00:19 |
vemacs | Elementary OS does this for menus, but they're still working out the values for the windows. | 00:19 |
vemacs | And frankly, it looks really ugly. If the strokes were all-black, they would be fine. | 00:19 |
vemacs | But best is if they were semi-transparent. | 00:19 |
nik90 | vemacs: not sure who generally works on that.. | 00:20 |
vemacs | nik90: Do you think I should post a launchpad bug? | 00:20 |
vemacs | I would assume it's part of the theme | 00:20 |
vemacs | Here's the part that's annoying | 00:20 |
vemacs | http://cl.ly/OcYs/Image%202013-04-28%20at%206.20.23%20PM.png | 00:20 |
vemacs | The window looks "soft" and blurry | 00:21 |
vemacs | and frankly, quite ugly | 00:21 |
vemacs | This might be a Ambiance bug, I think. | 00:21 |
vemacs | It looks worse on radiance. | 00:21 |
vemacs | Anyways, if somebody important does come on | 00:23 |
vemacs | Do any of you guys mind informing them about the request? | 00:23 |
vemacs | It's not exactly a bug, but a stylistic change. | 00:23 |
nik90 | I am just another community member..its best if you report a bug | 00:24 |
nik90 | and on monday list the bug here in this room | 00:24 |
vemacs | Alright | 00:25 |
vemacs | And a fix for 13.10 would make it resemble a finished product | 00:29 |
vemacs | Especially since there is a (potentially unstable) fix already | 00:30 |
vemacs | and has been since pre-oneiric. | 00:30 |
nik90 | ok | 00:30 |
vemacs | Welp, bumping onto launchpad now | 00:30 |
vemacs | Thanks for listing potential reasons | 00:30 |
vemacs | Although I hope that this won't be delayed yet again. | 00:30 |
dank101 | hi | 01:51 |
yarinse | ayuda con este virus: /home/usuario/.mozilla/firefox/i1c6tz0s.default/Cache/2/74:A09D1d01 | 07:54 |
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luv | mardy: Hi, I have seen you resolved the identity signout bug on Launchpad. Thanks | 14:18 |
luv | it's really great to see such a quick response | 14:18 |
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mardy | luv: thanks, you are welcome :-) | 15:34 |
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paulliu1 | mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362 | 17:13 |
mzanetti | paulliu1: approved | 17:15 |
paulliu1 | mzanetti: thanks. | 17:15 |
paulliu1 | dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362 | 17:17 |
dandrader | paulliu1, want me to review it? | 17:17 |
paulliu1 | dandrader: yes.. please re-review it. | 17:17 |
dandrader | paulliu1: Sorry, lost the backlog (using webchat now). Could you send me that URL again | 17:22 |
dandrader | ? | 17:22 |
paulliu1 | dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362 | 17:22 |
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mzanetti | mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/+activereviews | 18:25 |
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cyphermox | tedg: hey. link to your code for indicator-network, if it's ready for merging? :) | 19:09 |
cyphermox | tedg: also, did we finally agree on whether to enable the debug or not, for the upstart job? | 19:10 |
tedg | cyphermox, I think we decided that it was okay, for now. But we want something more global in the future. | 19:17 |
cyphermox | tedg: ok | 19:18 |
tedg | https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-network/trunk.13.10/+activereviews | 19:18 |
cyphermox | didrocks: poke. https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/161486 | 19:34 |
didrocks | cyphermox: do you mind checking with kenvandine? :) | 21:08 |
cyphermox | for next meeting? | 21:09 |
cyphermox | oh, for the merge | 21:09 |
cyphermox | sure :D | 21:09 |
kenvandine | cyphermox, ? | 21:09 |
cyphermox | kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/161486 | 21:09 |
kenvandine | cyphermox, did you trigger a rebuild for the CI tests? | 21:11 |
kenvandine | i'm reviewing, but would be nice to see the CI success | 21:11 |
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tsdgeos | dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity/fix_comment/+merge/161508 | 21:43 |
dandrader | tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity/phablet_removeUnusedFunction/+merge/161509 | 21:46 |
tsdgeos | Mirv: have a second for me now? | 21:50 |
tsdgeos | mzanetti: busy? | 21:50 |
mzanetti | tsdgeos: mostly | 21:52 |
mzanetti | tsdgeos: anything quick? | 21:52 |
tsdgeos | mzanetti: nope, give me a shout when you have a minute | 21:52 |
mzanetti | tsdgeos: ok... could take a bit tho... have another 5 people on the list I should give a shout | 21:52 |
tsdgeos | mzanetti: it's not urgent at all : | 21:53 |
tsdgeos | :D | 21:53 |
mzanetti | ok | 21:53 |
Mirv | tsdgeos: in half an hour, now at the great ballroom | 21:59 |
tsdgeos | oki | 22:02 |
tsdgeos | Mirv: what project you said i should file the qt patches merge bugs against? | 23:25 |
tsdgeos | Mirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src ? looks like it | 23:27 |
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Mirv | tsdgeos: yes | 23:44 |
tsdgeos | Mirv: yeah, can't assign to you, you can find it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1174589 | 23:56 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1174589 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Merge QColor support for Alpha values in # notation" [Undecided,New] | 23:56 |
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