vemacsHello, I'm not a Compiz developer, or somebody who knows anything about window managers00:07
vemacsBut here's a bitesize bug that pisses me, as an interface designer, seriously off:00:07
vemacsGiven that you guys probably know more than I do about this00:08
vemacsAnd that there's a "fix" already implemented00:08
vemacsI'm kind of disappointed that Ubuntu can't even approach the polish of the first rendition of OS X.00:08
vemacsAs a side note, not that I can do this00:09
vemacsBut elementary OS's inhouse libmutter-based WM has a fix for this00:09
vemacsAnd possibly translucent window bordering to avoid background clashes, instead of the current gradient.00:09
vemacsAny thoughts for making this a priority for the current development cycle?00:10
IRebootvemacs: You will not find anyone in this channel until the Monday work day GST. You many find Canonical employees here and they are having the usual weekend days off.00:12
vemacsIReboot: Alright, would bumping the launchpad bug help?00:12
vemacsAssuming they can be "bumped".00:12
IRebootNo idea00:12
vemacsWell, I think that non-canonical employees can still help :)00:13
IRebootProbably, I have this channel open for over 14 hours and yours are the first entries.00:14
nik90vemacs: one of the reason it will continue to have low priority is that in 14.04 (1 year from now) Ubuntu will use Mir and not Compiz.00:14
nik90so the fix for this bug will be useless once mir is used00:14
nik90meaning it is better of to see that this bug is fixed for 14.0400:15
vemacsnik90: Is Mir like X, where you can run compiz off of it?00:15
vemacsOr is it like Wayland, where the DS is the WM?00:15
ernani does anyone know how to disable global menu in unity?00:15
vemacsernani: sudo apt-get autoremove appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt00:16
nik90vemacs: You wont be able to run Compiz on Mir. Mir is more like Wayland, meaning Compiz will have too be patched to run on Wayland or Mir00:16
vemacsnik90: Okay. Another semi-related bug, but this isn't Compiz-specific.00:16
nik90vemacs: go ahead00:16
vemacsBasically, you know the strokes around the windows?00:16
vemacsBetween the shadow and the border?00:16
vemacsDo you see the black-to-grey gradient there?00:16
vemacsToo lazy to find a wallpaper that's light now00:17
vemacsBut here's the overall effect00:17
vemacsNot my desktop, btw00:17
nik90I am guessing you are referring to the shadow00:18
vemacsIt really clashes00:18
vemacsAnd OS X, Windows, and I think KDE00:18
vemacsNot the shadow.00:18
vemacsThe border.00:18
vemacsAnyways, OS X, Windows, and KDE00:18
vemacsInstead of having an opaque stroke00:18
vemacsThey use a stroke with an approximately 75% translucency with multiply blending00:18
vemacsTo prevent clashes between light wallpapers and light window borders.00:19
ernanithanks vemacs, i'll try that.00:19
vemacsElementary OS does this for menus, but they're still working out the values for the windows.00:19
vemacsAnd frankly, it looks really ugly. If the strokes were all-black, they would be fine.00:19
vemacsBut best is if they were semi-transparent.00:19
nik90vemacs: not sure who generally works on that..00:20
vemacsnik90: Do you think I should post a launchpad bug?00:20
vemacsI would assume it's part of the theme00:20
vemacsHere's the part that's annoying00:20
vemacsThe window looks "soft" and blurry00:21
vemacsand frankly, quite ugly00:21
vemacsThis might be a Ambiance bug, I think.00:21
vemacsIt looks worse on radiance.00:21
vemacsAnyways, if somebody important does come on00:23
vemacsDo any of you guys mind informing them about the request?00:23
vemacsIt's not exactly a bug, but a stylistic change.00:23
nik90I am just another community member..its best if you report a bug00:24
nik90and on monday list the bug here in this room00:24
vemacsAnd a fix for 13.10 would make it resemble a finished product00:29
vemacsEspecially since there is a (potentially unstable) fix already00:30
vemacsand has been since pre-oneiric.00:30
vemacsWelp, bumping onto launchpad now00:30
vemacsThanks for listing potential reasons00:30
vemacsAlthough I hope that this won't be delayed yet again.00:30
yarinseayuda con este virus: /home/usuario/.mozilla/firefox/i1c6tz0s.default/Cache/2/74:A09D1d0107:54
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luvmardy: Hi, I have seen you resolved the identity signout bug on Launchpad. Thanks14:18
luvit's really great to see such a quick response14:18
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mardyluv: thanks, you are welcome :-)15:34
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paulliu1mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/15836217:13
mzanettipaulliu1: approved17:15
paulliu1mzanetti: thanks.17:15
paulliu1dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/15836217:17
dandraderpaulliu1, want me to review it?17:17
paulliu1dandrader: yes.. please re-review it.17:17
dandraderpaulliu1: Sorry, lost the backlog (using webchat now). Could you send me that URL again17:22
paulliu1dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/15836217:22
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mzanettimterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/+activereviews18:25
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cyphermoxtedg: hey. link to your code for indicator-network, if it's ready for merging? :)19:09
cyphermoxtedg: also, did we finally agree on whether to enable the debug or not, for the upstart job?19:10
tedgcyphermox, I think we decided that it was okay, for now.  But we want something more global in the future.19:17
cyphermoxtedg: ok19:18
cyphermoxdidrocks: poke. https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/16148619:34
didrockscyphermox: do you mind checking with kenvandine? :)21:08
cyphermoxfor next meeting?21:09
cyphermoxoh, for the merge21:09
cyphermoxsure :D21:09
kenvandinecyphermox, ?21:09
cyphermoxkenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/16148621:09
kenvandinecyphermox, did you trigger a rebuild for the CI tests?21:11
kenvandinei'm reviewing, but would be nice to see the CI success21:11
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tsdgeosdandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity/fix_comment/+merge/16150821:43
dandradertsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity/phablet_removeUnusedFunction/+merge/16150921:46
tsdgeosMirv: have a second for me now?21:50
tsdgeosmzanetti: busy?21:50
mzanettitsdgeos: mostly21:52
mzanettitsdgeos: anything quick?21:52
tsdgeosmzanetti: nope, give me a shout when you have a minute21:52
mzanettitsdgeos: ok... could take a bit tho... have another 5 people on the list I should give a shout21:52
tsdgeosmzanetti: it's not urgent at all :21:53
Mirvtsdgeos: in half an hour, now at the great ballroom21:59
tsdgeosMirv: what project you said i should file the qt patches merge bugs against?23:25
tsdgeosMirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src ? looks like it23:27
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Mirvtsdgeos: yes23:44
tsdgeosMirv: yeah, can't assign to you, you can find it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/117458923:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 1174589 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Merge QColor support for Alpha values in # notation" [Undecided,New]23:56

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