[00:07] <vemacs> Hello, I'm not a Compiz developer, or somebody who knows anything about window managers
[00:07] <vemacs> But here's a bitesize bug that pisses me, as an interface designer, seriously off:
[00:07] <vemacs> http://redd.it/1dax9f
[00:08] <vemacs> Given that you guys probably know more than I do about this
[00:08] <vemacs> And that there's a "fix" already implemented
[00:08] <vemacs> I'm kind of disappointed that Ubuntu can't even approach the polish of the first rendition of OS X.
[00:09] <vemacs> As a side note, not that I can do this
[00:09] <vemacs> But elementary OS's inhouse libmutter-based WM has a fix for this
[00:09] <vemacs> And possibly translucent window bordering to avoid background clashes, instead of the current gradient.
[00:10] <vemacs> Any thoughts for making this a priority for the current development cycle?
[00:12] <IReboot> vemacs: You will not find anyone in this channel until the Monday work day GST. You many find Canonical employees here and they are having the usual weekend days off.
[00:12] <vemacs> IReboot: Alright, would bumping the launchpad bug help?
[00:12] <vemacs> Assuming they can be "bumped".
[00:12] <IReboot> No idea
[00:13] <vemacs> Well, I think that non-canonical employees can still help :)
[00:14] <IReboot> Probably, I have this channel open for over 14 hours and yours are the first entries.
[00:14] <nik90> vemacs: one of the reason it will continue to have low priority is that in 14.04 (1 year from now) Ubuntu will use Mir and not Compiz.
[00:14] <nik90> so the fix for this bug will be useless once mir is used
[00:15] <nik90> meaning it is better of to see that this bug is fixed for 14.04
[00:15] <vemacs> nik90: Is Mir like X, where you can run compiz off of it?
[00:15] <vemacs> Or is it like Wayland, where the DS is the WM?
[00:15] <ernani>  does anyone know how to disable global menu in unity?
[00:16] <vemacs> ernani: sudo apt-get autoremove appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt
[00:16] <nik90> vemacs: You wont be able to run Compiz on Mir. Mir is more like Wayland, meaning Compiz will have too be patched to run on Wayland or Mir
[00:16] <vemacs> nik90: Okay. Another semi-related bug, but this isn't Compiz-specific.
[00:16] <nik90> vemacs: go ahead
[00:16] <vemacs> Basically, you know the strokes around the windows?
[00:16] <vemacs> Between the shadow and the border?
[00:16] <vemacs> Do you see the black-to-grey gradient there?
[00:17] <nik90> yeah
[00:17] <vemacs> Too lazy to find a wallpaper that's light now
[00:17] <vemacs> But here's the overall effect
[00:17] <vemacs> http://opensas.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/my-desktop.png
[00:17] <vemacs> Not my desktop, btw
[00:18] <nik90> I am guessing you are referring to the shadow
[00:18] <vemacs> It really clashes
[00:18] <vemacs> And OS X, Windows, and I think KDE
[00:18] <vemacs> Not the shadow.
[00:18] <vemacs> The border.
[00:18] <vemacs> Anyways, OS X, Windows, and KDE
[00:18] <vemacs> Instead of having an opaque stroke
[00:18] <vemacs> They use a stroke with an approximately 75% translucency with multiply blending
[00:19] <vemacs> To prevent clashes between light wallpapers and light window borders.
[00:19] <ernani> thanks vemacs, i'll try that.
[00:19] <vemacs> Elementary OS does this for menus, but they're still working out the values for the windows.
[00:19] <vemacs> And frankly, it looks really ugly. If the strokes were all-black, they would be fine.
[00:19] <vemacs> But best is if they were semi-transparent.
[00:20] <nik90> vemacs: not sure who generally works on that..
[00:20] <vemacs> nik90: Do you think I should post a launchpad bug?
[00:20] <vemacs> I would assume it's part of the theme
[00:20] <vemacs> Here's the part that's annoying
[00:20] <vemacs> http://cl.ly/OcYs/Image%202013-04-28%20at%206.20.23%20PM.png
[00:21] <vemacs> The window looks "soft" and blurry
[00:21] <vemacs> and frankly, quite ugly
[00:21] <vemacs> This might be a Ambiance bug, I think.
[00:21] <vemacs> It looks worse on radiance.
[00:23] <vemacs> Anyways, if somebody important does come on
[00:23] <vemacs> Do any of you guys mind informing them about the request?
[00:23] <vemacs> It's not exactly a bug, but a stylistic change.
[00:24] <nik90> I am just another community member..its best if you report a bug
[00:24] <nik90> and on monday list the bug here in this room
[00:25] <vemacs> Alright
[00:29] <vemacs> And a fix for 13.10 would make it resemble a finished product
[00:30] <vemacs> Especially since there is a (potentially unstable) fix already
[00:30] <vemacs> and has been since pre-oneiric.
[00:30] <nik90> ok
[00:30] <vemacs> Welp, bumping onto launchpad now
[00:30] <vemacs> Thanks for listing potential reasons
[00:30] <vemacs> Although I hope that this won't be delayed yet again.
[01:51] <dank101> hi
[07:54] <yarinse> ayuda con este virus: /home/usuario/.mozilla/firefox/i1c6tz0s.default/Cache/2/74:A09D1d01
[14:18] <luv> mardy: Hi, I have seen you resolved the identity signout bug on Launchpad. Thanks
[14:18] <luv> it's really great to see such a quick response
[15:34] <mardy> luv: thanks, you are welcome :-)
[17:13] <paulliu1> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362
[17:15] <mzanetti> paulliu1: approved
[17:15] <paulliu1> mzanetti: thanks.
[17:17] <paulliu1> dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362
[17:17] <dandrader> paulliu1, want me to review it?
[17:17] <paulliu1> dandrader: yes.. please re-review it.
[17:22] <dandrader> paulliu1: Sorry, lost the backlog (using webchat now). Could you send me that URL again
[17:22] <dandrader> ?
[17:22] <paulliu1> dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362
[18:25] <mzanetti> mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/+activereviews
[19:09] <cyphermox> tedg: hey. link to your code for indicator-network, if it's ready for merging? :)
[19:10] <cyphermox> tedg: also, did we finally agree on whether to enable the debug or not, for the upstart job?
[19:17] <tedg> cyphermox, I think we decided that it was okay, for now.  But we want something more global in the future.
[19:18] <cyphermox> tedg: ok
[19:18] <tedg> https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-network/trunk.13.10/+activereviews
[19:34] <cyphermox> didrocks: poke. https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/161486
[21:08] <didrocks> cyphermox: do you mind checking with kenvandine? :)
[21:09] <cyphermox> for next meeting?
[21:09] <cyphermox> oh, for the merge
[21:09] <cyphermox> sure :D
[21:09] <kenvandine> cyphermox, ?
[21:09] <cyphermox> kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/161486
[21:11] <kenvandine> cyphermox, did you trigger a rebuild for the CI tests?
[21:11] <kenvandine> i'm reviewing, but would be nice to see the CI success
[21:43] <tsdgeos> dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity/fix_comment/+merge/161508
[21:46] <dandrader> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity/phablet_removeUnusedFunction/+merge/161509
[21:50] <tsdgeos> Mirv: have a second for me now?
[21:50] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: busy?
[21:52] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: mostly
[21:52] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: anything quick?
[21:52] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: nope, give me a shout when you have a minute
[21:52] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: ok... could take a bit tho... have another 5 people on the list I should give a shout
[21:53] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it's not urgent at all :
[21:53] <tsdgeos> :D
[21:53] <mzanetti> ok
[21:59] <Mirv> tsdgeos: in half an hour, now at the great ballroom
[22:02] <tsdgeos> oki
[23:25] <tsdgeos> Mirv: what project you said i should file the qt patches merge bugs against?
[23:27] <tsdgeos> Mirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src ? looks like it
[23:44] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yes
[23:56] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yeah, can't assign to you, you can find it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1174589