[00:07] Hello, I'm not a Compiz developer, or somebody who knows anything about window managers [00:07] But here's a bitesize bug that pisses me, as an interface designer, seriously off: [00:07] http://redd.it/1dax9f [00:08] Given that you guys probably know more than I do about this [00:08] And that there's a "fix" already implemented [00:08] I'm kind of disappointed that Ubuntu can't even approach the polish of the first rendition of OS X. [00:09] As a side note, not that I can do this [00:09] But elementary OS's inhouse libmutter-based WM has a fix for this [00:09] And possibly translucent window bordering to avoid background clashes, instead of the current gradient. [00:10] Any thoughts for making this a priority for the current development cycle? [00:12] vemacs: You will not find anyone in this channel until the Monday work day GST. You many find Canonical employees here and they are having the usual weekend days off. [00:12] IReboot: Alright, would bumping the launchpad bug help? [00:12] Assuming they can be "bumped". [00:12] No idea [00:13] Well, I think that non-canonical employees can still help :) [00:14] Probably, I have this channel open for over 14 hours and yours are the first entries. [00:14] vemacs: one of the reason it will continue to have low priority is that in 14.04 (1 year from now) Ubuntu will use Mir and not Compiz. [00:14] so the fix for this bug will be useless once mir is used [00:15] meaning it is better of to see that this bug is fixed for 14.04 [00:15] nik90: Is Mir like X, where you can run compiz off of it? [00:15] Or is it like Wayland, where the DS is the WM? [00:15] does anyone know how to disable global menu in unity? [00:16] ernani: sudo apt-get autoremove appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt [00:16] vemacs: You wont be able to run Compiz on Mir. Mir is more like Wayland, meaning Compiz will have too be patched to run on Wayland or Mir [00:16] nik90: Okay. Another semi-related bug, but this isn't Compiz-specific. [00:16] vemacs: go ahead [00:16] Basically, you know the strokes around the windows? [00:16] Between the shadow and the border? [00:16] Do you see the black-to-grey gradient there? [00:17] yeah [00:17] Too lazy to find a wallpaper that's light now [00:17] But here's the overall effect [00:17] http://opensas.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/my-desktop.png [00:17] Not my desktop, btw [00:18] I am guessing you are referring to the shadow [00:18] It really clashes [00:18] And OS X, Windows, and I think KDE [00:18] Not the shadow. [00:18] The border. [00:18] Anyways, OS X, Windows, and KDE [00:18] Instead of having an opaque stroke [00:18] They use a stroke with an approximately 75% translucency with multiply blending [00:19] To prevent clashes between light wallpapers and light window borders. [00:19] thanks vemacs, i'll try that. [00:19] Elementary OS does this for menus, but they're still working out the values for the windows. [00:19] And frankly, it looks really ugly. If the strokes were all-black, they would be fine. [00:19] But best is if they were semi-transparent. [00:20] vemacs: not sure who generally works on that.. [00:20] nik90: Do you think I should post a launchpad bug? [00:20] I would assume it's part of the theme [00:20] Here's the part that's annoying [00:20] http://cl.ly/OcYs/Image%202013-04-28%20at%206.20.23%20PM.png [00:21] The window looks "soft" and blurry [00:21] and frankly, quite ugly [00:21] This might be a Ambiance bug, I think. [00:21] It looks worse on radiance. [00:23] Anyways, if somebody important does come on [00:23] Do any of you guys mind informing them about the request? [00:23] It's not exactly a bug, but a stylistic change. [00:24] I am just another community member..its best if you report a bug [00:24] and on monday list the bug here in this room [00:25] Alright [00:29] And a fix for 13.10 would make it resemble a finished product [00:30] Especially since there is a (potentially unstable) fix already [00:30] and has been since pre-oneiric. [00:30] ok [00:30] Welp, bumping onto launchpad now [00:30] Thanks for listing potential reasons [00:30] Although I hope that this won't be delayed yet again. [01:51] hi [07:54] ayuda con este virus: /home/usuario/.mozilla/firefox/i1c6tz0s.default/Cache/2/74:A09D1d01 === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:18] mardy: Hi, I have seen you resolved the identity signout bug on Launchpad. Thanks [14:18] it's really great to see such a quick response === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [15:34] luv: thanks, you are welcome :-) === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [17:13] mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362 [17:15] paulliu1: approved [17:15] mzanetti: thanks. [17:17] dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362 [17:17] paulliu1, want me to review it? [17:17] dandrader: yes.. please re-review it. [17:22] paulliu1: Sorry, lost the backlog (using webchat now). Could you send me that URL again [17:22] ? [17:22] dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity/phablet_add-qmluitest1/+merge/158362 === paulliu1 is now known as paulliu [18:25] mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/+activereviews === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [19:09] tedg: hey. link to your code for indicator-network, if it's ready for merging? :) [19:10] tedg: also, did we finally agree on whether to enable the debug or not, for the upstart job? [19:17] cyphermox, I think we decided that it was okay, for now. But we want something more global in the future. [19:18] tedg: ok [19:18] https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-network/trunk.13.10/+activereviews [19:34] didrocks: poke. https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/161486 [21:08] cyphermox: do you mind checking with kenvandine? :) [21:09] for next meeting? [21:09] oh, for the merge [21:09] sure :D [21:09] cyphermox, ? [21:09] kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gps-service/packaging-review/+merge/161486 [21:11] cyphermox, did you trigger a rebuild for the CI tests? [21:11] i'm reviewing, but would be nice to see the CI success === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === jasoncwarner__ is now known as jasoncwarner [21:43] dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity/fix_comment/+merge/161508 [21:46] tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity/phablet_removeUnusedFunction/+merge/161509 [21:50] Mirv: have a second for me now? [21:50] mzanetti: busy? [21:52] tsdgeos: mostly [21:52] tsdgeos: anything quick? [21:52] mzanetti: nope, give me a shout when you have a minute [21:52] tsdgeos: ok... could take a bit tho... have another 5 people on the list I should give a shout [21:53] mzanetti: it's not urgent at all : [21:53] :D [21:53] ok [21:59] tsdgeos: in half an hour, now at the great ballroom [22:02] oki [23:25] Mirv: what project you said i should file the qt patches merge bugs against? [23:27] Mirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src ? looks like it === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [23:44] tsdgeos: yes [23:56] Mirv: yeah, can't assign to you, you can find it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1174589 [23:56] Launchpad bug 1174589 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Merge QColor support for Alpha values in # notation" [Undecided,New]