=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [05:20] morning all [05:20] wb inetpro big job? [05:20] Kilos: good morning [05:20] inetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro Jou werk goed het gedooi boetie. lekker slaap" 10 hours, 17 minutes and 55 seconds ago [05:21] Kilos: no, more like a unplanned power failure in the data centre [05:21] ai! [05:22] at least I'm alive again [05:22] looks like we gonna have a bad winter when it comes to power probs [05:22] yeah [05:27] Oops, start of next month is Wednesday, not Thursday [05:27] I really suck at remembering which months end on 31 days :P [05:32] hi Trixar_za me too [05:32] Hey Kilos [05:33] Well, it does make it easier to last only two more days [05:33] On 50MB :P [05:33] peeps do that thing with their knuckles but i never know with which one to start [05:34] ai! i got 400m night surfer thats gonna expire [05:40] Time to download something then [05:40] ya but what [05:40] and to stay up till then [05:40] whew [05:41] I don't know. I'd probably download an adventure game that works with ScummVM [05:41] like broken sword or something [05:41] my pc battles with games [05:41] modern one anyway [05:41] ones [05:41] It was made in 1996 I think [05:42] http://scummvm.org/compatibility/ [05:42] ty [05:42] I'm slowly collecting the games on that list [05:44] But I've always been an Adventure game fan [05:44] Started with Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis [05:44] :P [05:44] do i nead a vm then [05:44] need [05:45] or will it work in ubuntu [05:48] It works with Ubuntu [05:48] ScummVM is a cross-platform emulator [05:48] Well, not exactly an emulator, it reimplements the game engine so it works on multiple platforms [05:49] You just really need the game's data files to play them using ScummVM [05:49] oh so i dont need virtualbox or something [05:50] pc too slow for that [05:57] Nope, just ScummVM, which should be in Ubuntu's repository [05:58] You can also download the latest version from the website [05:58] lekker ty. but none of them are over 90% what does that mean [05:59] Just means they are completeable, but may have minor bugs [05:59] Like visual or music issues [05:59] Nothing game breaking though [05:59] oi [05:59] i always turn off music [06:00] will try one tonight if i can stay up === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:42] morning [06:42] hi Squirm [06:45] I feel like I need a weekend [06:46] lol another one [06:46] you need to work to get over your weekends [06:52] hiya maiatoday HawkiesZA [06:52] 'ello [06:53] hi Kilos HawkiesZA [06:54] Kilos: no, I need a weekend away. from work and certain people [06:54] aha [06:55] Somewhere where the nothing grows 10 feet high [06:56] haha [07:01] hi all [07:05] hi deegee_1 [07:05] hi deegee_1 [07:06] did you trip the power there last night? [07:06] hehe [07:19] o/ [07:20] \o [07:20] anyone using gnome-boxes? [07:22] https://live.gnome.org/Boxes/ [07:30] Kilos: did you check your 8ta balance yet? [07:31] nope will check now ty for the reminder inetpro [07:31] hi Vince-0 [07:31] wbb [07:32] hi Kilos [07:37] no change inetpro only lucky peeps get given free data [07:38] and still 450m to expire month end [07:38] sigh [07:38] night surfer that is [07:38] grrr [07:54] ohi superfly [07:56] hi === deegee_1 is now known as plustwo_1 [08:09] Kilos: how did you check, using USSD on mobile phone? [08:09] mobile [08:09] hmm... interesting [08:09] where you see ussd [08:09] guess I'll have to check mine like that as well [08:09] I checked on the web [08:10] oh on the site [08:10] http://8ta.com/login/ [08:11] ty [08:16] ai! then i gotta register there [08:16] Kilos: see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6p67ndx34nxib1a/8taDataReset_20130429.png [08:19] is that how you get feedback if registered [08:21] i just go to http://onnet.8ta.com/ and it spits out the remaining airtime/bundles [08:21] without needing to register [08:21] but it is not known for its great stability... [08:23] ty tonberryE352 [08:23] lemme look that way [08:24] Kilos: yes and more... [08:24] you can purchase bundles from there after having loaded airtime [08:25] hmm... [08:25] what a schlep, sim is registered to sister [08:26] Redeem Airtime Voucher, Credit Card Airtime TopUp, Purchase Bundle, ... [08:26] ... Link another account , Manage Subscriptions [08:27] so gotta register as sis [08:27] ai! [08:27] strange, mine just worked without any registration [08:28] tonberryE352: surely you must have registered at some point? [08:29] nope [08:29] maybe it's the onnet option that works without registering [08:31] prepaid vs contract maybe? [08:33] onnet doesnt show me a data balance but shows airtime on sim [08:38] hmm... [08:38] tonberryE352: you have a contract? [08:38] no [08:38] * inetpro is on prepaid [08:38] * tonberryE352 is as well [08:53] morning all [09:04] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:20] 1.2GB to do-release-upgrade [09:20] think i'll pass for now thanks :-/ [09:21] ouch [09:21] the iso is 800 meg [09:21] yeah, but i have a decent number of packages installed on top of the base install [09:23] ouch [09:25] eish! [09:26] ThatGraemeGuy: that is quite a lot [09:27] i think its time for a clean install [09:28] this was an Ubuntu install and then i installed xubuntu-desktop on top of it, so its more bloated than it ought to be [09:28] ah [09:28] makes sense [09:38] i like clean installs better than upgrades [09:38] i find upgrades dont run as well as clean installs [09:38] but then i always have a se[erate /home [09:38] seperate [09:38] ai! [09:38] separate [09:43] hi kbmonkey [10:10] hi morgs [10:10] hi [10:32] inetpro, did you get free data? [10:33] Kilos: I wish [10:33] lol see apartheaid lives [10:33] apartheaid lives? [10:33] wonder why them others got [10:34] apartheid [10:34] nee man, waarvan praat jy? [10:34] selective customers [10:34] why they got and we didnt [10:34] did you not see my screenshot? [10:34] oh ya [10:35] that dropbox thing [10:35] yep [10:35] not fair what did we do wrong [10:37] Kilos: according to that screenshot I got 12+6 [10:38] aw that all [10:38] well i got niks [10:39] I'm sure it's just a system error [10:40] my USSD will probably show the correct number [10:40] doesnt matter. they gotta spread the error to all customers [10:43] nhot just the pretty ones [10:43] hehe [10:43] not [11:14] whew takes forever to register there at 8ta [11:14] before they send you your username [11:22] nee man something must be wrong there [11:22] grrr [11:47] tonberryE352, do you see data balance at onnet? [11:47] i see only airtime [11:48] i usually do [11:48] not at home now so cant check [11:49] ok ty [12:10] o/ [12:10] lo nuvolari [12:10] hi oom Kilos [12:10] Gaan dit goed? [12:10] ja dankie en jy? [12:34] dit gaan goed dankie oom [12:34] sien uit na die surprise vakansiedag [12:34] woensdag [12:34] watse surprise [12:35] gebeur daar iets grand by jou === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [13:32] afternoon all [13:38] Kilos: are you around? [13:38] o/ [13:38] yessir [13:38] hi voyager42 [13:39] just foned 8ta [13:39] I just heard about the Randburg release party [13:39] any organisers here? [13:39] good. [13:39] lemme look [13:39] Kilos: what is the command to rsync an iso? [13:40] i dont see any of them here at the moment [13:40] I just downloaded the iso yesterday :-/ [13:40] sec i find it mage [13:40] zsync actually [13:40] voyager42, stay here this is our help channel [13:40] I'm keen to setup a dual boot with Win8 and i'm a bit scared so I thought it might be a good chance to do ti. [13:41] its easy [13:41] when you boot from cd it will ask if you want to run alongside windows [13:41] I've done it many times before, but first time with win8 UEFI etc. [13:42] just boot from dvd and go with install then it will give the alongside option [13:42] ok. will give it a try before the weekend and if I run into issues I might come knocking. [13:43] you welcome here anytime [13:44] magespawn, zsync -i ubuntu.iso http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.zsync [13:44] thanks... work network has irc issues but I always forget about webirc... this is a pretty nice one. [13:45] oh you wanna rsync to or from somewhere [13:45] sorry man [13:46] sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to whereever [13:46] magespawn, tell me what you wanna do? [13:47] voyager have you tried xchat in windows and see if it then works on irc? [13:48] some guys use mirc too i think [13:48] I'm on a linux box at work and there are firewall issues. [13:49] ai! [13:49] killem [13:49] hehe [13:50] speaking of which... has anyone had issues doing a dist-upgrade? I am on quetzal and tried to dist-upgrade (from cmd line and using Software Updater gui). [13:51] Software Updater shows an upgrade available but it just fails silently after I click the button [13:51] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [13:51] in cli [13:52] or do you want to upgrade to the next release [13:53] it should offer that choice in update-manager [13:54] Kilos: remind me later to tell you about me chicken thief [13:54] ok inetpro [13:57] Kilos: it gives me the choice but after that nothing happens [13:57] oh my goodness [13:57] inetpro, ideas^^ [13:58] Trying to get debug - I'm might drop off for a bit. [13:58] np [13:59] the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade only does the kernel stuff on your existing release i think [14:01] How To Upgrade Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) To 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) (Desktop & Server) http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal-to-13.04-raring-ringtail-desktop-and-server [14:01] ty [14:04] meh [14:04] don't dist-upgrade [14:04] that's what the do-release-upgrade tool is for [14:04] oh my [14:05] please give the command superfly so i can help him when he returns [14:05] voyager42: you shouldn't be using dist-upgrade [14:05] voyager42: use "sudo do-release-upgrade" [14:05] Kilos: why not? [14:06] I tried that too, but only after trying dist-upgrade [14:06] the fly is an expert voyager42 [14:06] s/Kilos/superfly [14:06] voyager42: it's me, not Kilos, and it's because do-release-upgrade does some "magic" behind the scenes to ensure you aren't left with a broken upgrade [14:06] lol [14:07] and update-manager? doesn't that call do-release-upgrade anyway? [14:07] voyager42: I've done a dist-upgrade before, but it is not recommended [14:07] voyager42: yes, it does. [14:07] I've done dist-upgrade since 10.04 :-/ [14:08] superfly: does do-release-upgrade have debug that I can enable? [14:09] voyager42: I don't know [14:09] voyager42: have you tried just the do-release-upgrade to see if it gives you any additional information? [14:09] $ do-release-upgrade -c Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found [14:10] voyager42: have you already changed your sources.list file? [14:10] lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Release: 12.10 Codename: quantal [14:10] superfly: no [14:10] you can try do-release-upgrade -d [14:11] voyager42: also check your update settings in your software sources [14:11] saem result [14:11] *same [14:13] thanks for listening... I'll try in a different location. [14:15] Kilos i downloaded a partial iso, but managed to get 1.2gig of a 2.2gig file [14:15] oh my [14:15] you didnt wget it hey? [14:16] wget with -c adds whats missing [14:16] voyager42: if you already started with a dist-upgrade, why not just continue on? [14:16] but if you have the iso one your desktop that zsync command should update it i think [14:27] ty Kilos [14:28] will try the wget and see [14:28] yw magespawn hope it works [14:29] i think you gotta do wget from the start. i like wget. net probs dont waste your data [15:37] hi henkj [15:38] if im not here and voyager2 comes back get him ti join the mailing list please guys there is info on the jhb release party [15:39] oh its 42 [15:40] he just joined us on twitter [15:41] 20 mins ThatGraemeGuy [15:41] nearly home time [15:41] i rebooted my htpc earlier and it didn't come back [15:42] wife just got home and kicked it in the pants [15:42] lol [15:42] so my bouncer was dead [15:43] handy wife you got [15:44] she rebooted it [15:44] very windowsy wife i've got :) [15:44] shame [15:44] not many women go linux unless they are geeks [15:45] or married to us, more likely [15:45] lol [16:22] so Kilos, what is it that eats a mother hen with week old chicks right from the nest? [16:23] oh my goodness [16:23] was she away from the hokke [16:23] * inetpro has lost about 5 grownup chickens in the last few weeks [16:23] in the coup [16:24] they just gone or are there feathers and bits and pieces [16:24] very very few feathers [16:24] merekat? [16:24] you got dogs? [16:24] not a lot of traces, but clearly some very few bones and feathers [16:25] merekat normally steals eggs [16:25] no its not dogs [16:25] no man have you got dogs [16:25] yes or no [16:25] ah, we had a dog that used to eat our chickens [16:25] yes I have dogs but it's not teh dogs for sure [16:26] I know exactly what it is now [16:26] do they bark on the nights hens disappear [16:26] inetpro: it's that massive snake :-P [16:26] not much that I could figure it out [16:26] lol [16:27] might be one of them bigger cats [16:27] * inetpro moet seker die aap uit die mou laat [16:27] rooikat [16:27] your garden boy [16:27] there's a clue for you Kilos [16:27] come on man why ask if you know [16:27] bobbejaan se kind [16:27] where is the clue [16:27] lol [16:28] 'n very small monkey with a long tail [16:28] normally they dont steal where they work but they inform others where to go [16:28] wow [16:28] did you see it [16:28] been seen eating my mealies by the gardener and now this weekend my son spotted him [16:29] shoot it [16:29] vervet? [16:29] a very skelm monkey this one [16:29] but surely when it grabs the hen the hen will scream [16:30] and at night? [16:30] they normally sleep at night [16:30] well I seriously have not heard any commotion [16:31] hang some poisoned bananas up and see [16:31] have now closed the coup some more but it's a big hassle to close and open every day [16:31] eish [16:32] like on Saturday I was late [16:32] locked them up just after sunset and didn't realise that this thing got in and grabbed three chickens already [16:33] ya monkeys jol in the day time [16:33] only noticed yesterday that some three chickens were gone again with a few feathers here and there [16:34] wow [16:34] normally they steal fruit and veggies [16:34] very windgat this one [16:35] will now have to make some plan to catch it [16:35] poison or shotgun [16:35] not easy to trap a monkey methinks [16:36] I think it was about three weeks now since I closed properly, so Saturday he must have been very hungry and took his chances [16:36] or leave a smallish entrance and string 220v wires there so it cant get in without touching them both [16:37] either that or you'll have roast chicken in the morning :) [16:37] lol [16:37] the first one he grabbed (the hen with chicks on the nest) really had me thinking [16:38] weird that [16:38] only one cure. kill it before it teaches the whole tribe [16:38] there were very few traces of anything, so much so that I thought it had to be a human [16:39] but humans won't catch a hen with chicks [16:39] well according to eveolutionist we come from them [16:39] now you coming with stories [16:39] but evolutionists dont say why all the monkeys didnt evolve [16:40] string 220v wires man [16:41] that sounds dangerous [16:41] for the monkey ya [16:42] 2 planks fastened either side of the gap with bare wires across and an extension cord to connect it to [16:42] very easy [16:43] Cantide: my son says it looked more like a nagapie to him, not a vervet [16:43] bare wires tween planks and from them insulated wire with a plug on to plug into extension [16:43] not sure what you call a nagapie in the lingo [16:43] wow so small stealing whole fowls [16:43] or bantams [16:43] ? [16:43] bantams [16:43] eish [16:44] string wires [16:44] if it dont kill it will at least teach it that you coop is a nono [16:45] ahh, bush baby [16:45] someones pet that escaped [16:46] said it has a bushy tail [16:46] eish and chickens cost bucks [16:49] farming is tough hey inetpro [16:50] Kilos: very [16:50] the larger monkeys without tails steal sheep [16:50] always more challenges [16:50] yip [17:19] how does a monkey steal a sheep :) [17:20] sounds like you have a king kong problem there [17:20] carefully and quickly [17:20] with a bakkie [17:22] lol [17:35] hi not_found [17:35] Uncle Kilos , how are you?|!?! [17:35] good ty not_found and you? [17:36] alive... kicking a bit also [17:36] We don't "come from" monkeys; we and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor. [17:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution [17:39] >.. [17:39] >.> [17:40] hehe [17:57] * not_found installing Debian on his Android phone so he can linux while he linux'sesews [17:58] nice [18:11] hmm... [18:11] looks like 8ta is not so generous after all [18:11] why? [18:11] seems there system is fixed again [18:12] their coding skills just suck [18:12] i foned and battled to get to the data peeps [18:12]