[05:20] <Kilos> morning all
[05:20] <Kilos> wb inetpro big job?
[05:20] <inetpro> Kilos: good morning
[05:20] <Maaz> inetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro Jou werk goed het gedooi boetie. lekker slaap" 10 hours, 17 minutes and 55 seconds ago
[05:21] <inetpro> Kilos: no, more like a unplanned power failure in the data centre
[05:21] <Kilos> ai!
[05:22] <inetpro> at least I'm alive again
[05:22] <Kilos> looks like we gonna have a bad winter when it comes to power probs
[05:22] <Kilos> yeah
[05:27] <Trixar_za> Oops, start of next month is Wednesday, not Thursday
[05:27] <Trixar_za> I really suck at remembering which months end on 31 days :P
[05:32] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za me too
[05:32] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[05:33] <Trixar_za> Well, it does make it easier to last only two more days
[05:33] <Trixar_za> On 50MB :P
[05:33] <Kilos> peeps do that thing with their knuckles but i never know with which one to start
[05:34] <Kilos> ai! i got 400m night surfer thats gonna expire
[05:40] <Trixar_za> Time to download something then
[05:40] <Kilos> ya but what
[05:40] <Kilos> and to stay up till then
[05:40] <Kilos> whew
[05:41] <Trixar_za> I don't know. I'd probably download an adventure game that works with ScummVM
[05:41] <Trixar_za> like broken sword or something
[05:41] <Kilos> my pc battles with games
[05:41] <Kilos> modern one anyway
[05:41] <Kilos> ones
[05:41] <Trixar_za> It was made in 1996 I think
[05:42] <Trixar_za> http://scummvm.org/compatibility/
[05:42] <Kilos> ty
[05:42] <Trixar_za> I'm slowly collecting the games on that list
[05:44] <Trixar_za> But I've always been an Adventure game fan
[05:44] <Trixar_za> Started with Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
[05:44] <Trixar_za> :P
[05:44] <Kilos> do i nead a vm then
[05:44] <Kilos> need
[05:45] <Kilos> or will it work in ubuntu
[05:48] <Trixar_za> It works with Ubuntu
[05:48] <Trixar_za> ScummVM is a cross-platform emulator
[05:48] <Trixar_za> Well, not exactly an emulator, it reimplements the game engine so it works on multiple platforms
[05:49] <Trixar_za> You just really need the game's data files to play them using ScummVM
[05:49] <Kilos> oh so i dont need virtualbox or something
[05:50] <Kilos> pc too slow for that
[05:57] <Trixar_za> Nope, just ScummVM, which should be in Ubuntu's repository
[05:58] <Trixar_za> You can also download the latest version from the website
[05:58] <Kilos> lekker ty. but none of them are over 90% what does that mean
[05:59] <Trixar_za> Just means they are completeable, but may have minor bugs
[05:59] <Trixar_za> Like visual or music issues
[05:59] <Trixar_za> Nothing game breaking though
[05:59] <Kilos> oi
[05:59] <Kilos> i always turn off music
[06:00] <Kilos> will try one tonight if i can stay up
[06:42] <Squirm> morning
[06:42] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:45] <Squirm> I feel like I need a weekend
[06:46] <Kilos> lol another one
[06:46] <Kilos> you need to work to get over your weekends
[06:52] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday HawkiesZA 
[06:52] <HawkiesZA> 'ello
[06:53] <maiatoday> hi Kilos HawkiesZA 
[06:54] <Squirm> Kilos: no, I need a weekend away. from work and certain people
[06:54] <Kilos> aha
[06:55] <HawkiesZA> Somewhere where the nothing grows 10 feet high
[06:56] <Kilos> haha
[07:01] <deegee_1> hi all
[07:05] <Kilos> hi deegee_1 
[07:05] <HawkiesZA> hi deegee_1 
[07:06] <Kilos> did you trip the power there last night?
[07:06] <Kilos> hehe
[07:19] <deegee_1> o/
[07:20] <HawkiesZA> \o
[07:20] <deegee_1> anyone using gnome-boxes?
[07:22] <deegee_1> https://live.gnome.org/Boxes/
[07:30] <inetpro> Kilos: did you check your 8ta balance yet?
[07:31] <Kilos> nope will check now ty for the reminder inetpro 
[07:31] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:31] <Kilos> wbb
[07:32] <Vince-0> hi Kilos 
[07:37] <Kilos> no change inetpro only lucky peeps get given free data
[07:38] <Kilos> and still 450m to expire month end
[07:38] <Kilos> sigh
[07:38] <Kilos> night surfer that is
[07:38] <Kilos> grrr
[07:54] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[07:56] <superfly> hi
[08:09] <inetpro> Kilos: how did you check, using USSD on mobile phone?
[08:09] <Kilos> mobile
[08:09] <inetpro> hmm... interesting
[08:09] <Kilos> where you see ussd
[08:09] <inetpro> guess I'll have to check mine like that as well
[08:09] <inetpro> I checked on the web
[08:10] <Kilos> oh on the site
[08:10] <inetpro> http://8ta.com/login/
[08:11] <Kilos> ty
[08:16] <Kilos> ai! then i gotta register there
[08:16] <inetpro> Kilos: see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6p67ndx34nxib1a/8taDataReset_20130429.png
[08:19] <Kilos> is that how you get feedback if registered
[08:21] <tonberryE352> i just go to http://onnet.8ta.com/ and it spits out the remaining airtime/bundles
[08:21] <tonberryE352> without needing to register
[08:21] <tonberryE352> but it is not known for its great stability...
[08:23] <Kilos> ty tonberryE352 
[08:23] <Kilos> lemme look that way
[08:24] <inetpro> Kilos: yes and more... 
[08:24] <inetpro> you can purchase bundles from there after having loaded airtime
[08:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:25] <Kilos> what a schlep, sim is registered to sister 
[08:26] <inetpro> Redeem Airtime Voucher, Credit Card Airtime TopUp, Purchase Bundle, ...
[08:26] <inetpro> ... Link another account , Manage Subscriptions
[08:27] <Kilos> so gotta register as sis
[08:27] <Kilos> ai!
[08:27] <tonberryE352> strange, mine just worked without any registration
[08:28] <inetpro> tonberryE352: surely you must have registered at some point?
[08:29] <tonberryE352> nope
[08:29] <inetpro> maybe it's the onnet option that works without registering
[08:31] <tonberryE352> prepaid vs contract maybe?
[08:33] <Kilos> onnet doesnt show me a data balance but shows airtime on sim
[08:38] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:38] <inetpro> tonberryE352: you have a contract?
[08:38] <tonberryE352> no
[08:38]  * inetpro is on prepaid
[08:38]  * tonberryE352 is as well
[08:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[09:04] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> 1.2GB to do-release-upgrade
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> think i'll pass for now thanks :-/
[09:21] <Kilos> ouch
[09:21] <Kilos> the iso is 800 meg
[09:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, but i have a decent number of packages installed on top of the base install
[09:23] <Kilos> ouch
[09:25] <inetpro> eish!
[09:26] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: that is quite a lot
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think its time for a clean install
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> this was an Ubuntu install and then i installed xubuntu-desktop on top of it, so its more bloated than it ought to be
[09:28] <inetpro> ah
[09:28] <inetpro> makes sense
[09:38] <Kilos> i like clean installs better than upgrades
[09:38] <Kilos> i find upgrades dont run as well as clean installs
[09:38] <Kilos> but then i always have a se[erate /home
[09:38] <Kilos> seperate
[09:38] <Kilos> ai!
[09:38] <Kilos> separate
[09:43] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[10:10] <Kilos> hi morgs 
[10:10] <morgs> hi
[10:32] <Kilos> inetpro, did you get free data?
[10:33] <inetpro> Kilos: I wish
[10:33] <Kilos> lol see apartheaid lives
[10:33] <inetpro> apartheaid lives?
[10:33] <Kilos> wonder why them others got
[10:34] <Kilos> apartheid
[10:34] <inetpro> nee man, waarvan praat jy?
[10:34] <Kilos> selective customers
[10:34] <Kilos> why they got and we didnt
[10:34] <inetpro> did you not see my screenshot?
[10:34] <Kilos> oh ya
[10:35] <Kilos> that dropbox thing
[10:35] <inetpro> yep
[10:35] <Kilos> not fair what did we do wrong
[10:37] <inetpro> Kilos: according to that screenshot I got 12+6
[10:38] <Kilos> aw that all
[10:38] <Kilos> well i got niks
[10:39] <inetpro> I'm sure it's just a system error
[10:40] <inetpro> my USSD will probably show the correct number
[10:40] <Kilos> doesnt matter. they gotta spread the error to all customers
[10:43] <Kilos> nhot just the pretty ones
[10:43] <Kilos> hehe
[10:43] <Kilos> not
[11:14] <Kilos> whew takes forever to register there at 8ta
[11:14] <Kilos> before they send you your username
[11:22] <Kilos> nee man something must be wrong there
[11:22] <Kilos> grrr
[11:47] <Kilos> tonberryE352, do you see data balance at onnet?
[11:47] <Kilos> i see only airtime
[11:48] <tonberryE352> i usually do
[11:48] <tonberryE352> not at home now so cant check
[11:49] <Kilos> ok ty
[12:10] <nuvolari> o/
[12:10] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[12:10] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[12:10] <nuvolari> Gaan dit goed?
[12:10] <Kilos> ja dankie en jy?
[12:34] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[12:34] <nuvolari> sien uit na die surprise vakansiedag
[12:34] <nuvolari> woensdag
[12:34] <Kilos> watse surprise
[12:35] <Kilos> gebeur daar iets grand by jou
[13:32] <magespawn> afternoon all
[13:38] <magespawn> Kilos: are you around?
[13:38] <voyager42> o/
[13:38] <Kilos> yessir
[13:38] <Kilos> hi voyager42 
[13:39] <Kilos> just foned 8ta
[13:39] <voyager42> I just heard about the Randburg release party
[13:39] <voyager42> any organisers here?
[13:39] <Kilos> good.
[13:39] <Kilos> lemme look
[13:39] <magespawn> Kilos: what is the command to rsync an iso?
[13:40] <Kilos> i dont see any of them here at the moment
[13:40] <voyager42> I just downloaded the iso yesterday :-/
[13:40] <Kilos> sec i find it mage
[13:40] <Kilos> zsync actually
[13:40] <Kilos> voyager42, stay here this is our help channel
[13:40] <voyager42> I'm keen to setup a dual boot with Win8 and i'm a bit scared so I thought it might be a good chance to do ti.
[13:41] <Kilos> its easy
[13:41] <Kilos> when you boot from cd it will ask if you want to run alongside windows
[13:41] <voyager42> I've done it many times before, but first time with win8 UEFI etc. 
[13:42] <Kilos> just boot from dvd and go with install then it will give the alongside option
[13:42] <voyager42> ok. will give it a try before the weekend and if I run into issues I might come knocking.
[13:43] <Kilos> you welcome here anytime
[13:44] <Kilos> magespawn, zsync -i ubuntu.iso http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[13:44] <voyager42> thanks... work network has irc issues but I always forget about webirc...  this is a pretty nice one.
[13:45] <Kilos> oh you wanna rsync to or from somewhere
[13:45] <Kilos> sorry man
[13:46] <Kilos> sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to whereever
[13:46] <Kilos> magespawn, tell me what you wanna do?
[13:47] <Kilos> voyager have you tried xchat in windows and see if it then works on irc?
[13:48] <Kilos> some guys use mirc too i think
[13:48] <voyager42> I'm on a linux box at work and there are firewall issues.
[13:49] <Kilos> ai!
[13:49] <Kilos> killem
[13:49] <Kilos> hehe
[13:50] <voyager42> speaking of which... has anyone had issues doing a dist-upgrade?  I am on quetzal and tried to dist-upgrade (from cmd line and using Software Updater gui).
[13:51] <voyager42> Software Updater shows an upgrade available but it just fails silently after I click the button
[13:51] <Kilos> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:51] <Kilos> in cli
[13:52] <Kilos> or do you want to upgrade to the next release
[13:53] <Kilos> it should offer that choice in update-manager
[13:54] <inetpro> Kilos: remind me later to tell you about me chicken thief
[13:54] <Kilos> ok inetpro 
[13:57] <voyager42> Kilos: it gives me the choice but after that nothing happens
[13:57] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[13:57] <Kilos> inetpro, ideas^^
[13:58] <voyager42> Trying to get debug - I'm might drop off for a bit.
[13:58] <Kilos> np
[13:59] <Kilos> the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade only does the kernel stuff on your existing release i think
[14:01] <inetpro> How To Upgrade Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) To 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) (Desktop & Server)  http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal-to-13.04-raring-ringtail-desktop-and-server
[14:01] <Kilos> ty
[14:04] <superfly> meh
[14:04] <superfly> don't dist-upgrade
[14:04] <superfly> that's what the do-release-upgrade tool is for
[14:04] <Kilos> oh my
[14:05] <Kilos> please give the command superfly so i can help him when he returns
[14:05] <superfly> voyager42: you shouldn't be using dist-upgrade
[14:05] <superfly> voyager42: use "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[14:05] <voyager42> Kilos: why not?
[14:06] <voyager42> I tried that too, but only after trying dist-upgrade
[14:06] <Kilos> the fly is an expert voyager42 
[14:06] <voyager42> s/Kilos/superfly
[14:06] <superfly> voyager42: it's me, not Kilos, and it's because do-release-upgrade does some "magic" behind the scenes to ensure you aren't left with a broken upgrade
[14:06] <Kilos> lol
[14:07] <voyager42> and update-manager?  doesn't that call do-release-upgrade anyway?
[14:07] <superfly> voyager42: I've done a dist-upgrade before, but it is not recommended
[14:07] <superfly> voyager42: yes, it does.
[14:07] <voyager42> I've done dist-upgrade since 10.04 :-/
[14:08] <voyager42> superfly: does do-release-upgrade have debug that I can enable?
[14:09] <superfly> voyager42: I don't know
[14:09] <superfly> voyager42: have you tried just the do-release-upgrade to see if it gives you any additional information?
[14:09] <voyager42> $ do-release-upgrade -c Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found 
[14:10] <superfly> voyager42: have you already changed your sources.list file?
[14:10] <voyager42> lsb_release  -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.10 Release:	12.10 Codename:	quantal 
[14:10] <voyager42> superfly: no
[14:10] <superfly> you can try do-release-upgrade -d
[14:11] <superfly> voyager42: also check your update settings in your software sources
[14:11] <voyager42> saem result
[14:11] <voyager42> *same
[14:13] <voyager42> thanks for listening... I'll try in a different location.
[14:15] <magespawn> Kilos i downloaded a partial iso, but managed to get 1.2gig of a 2.2gig file
[14:15] <Kilos> oh my
[14:15] <Kilos> you didnt wget it hey?
[14:16] <Kilos> wget with -c adds whats missing
[14:16] <superfly> voyager42: if you already started with a dist-upgrade, why not just continue on?
[14:16] <Kilos> but if you have the iso one your desktop that zsync command should update it i think
[14:27] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[14:28] <magespawn> will try the wget and see
[14:28] <Kilos> yw magespawn hope it works
[14:29] <Kilos> i think you gotta do wget from the start. i like wget. net probs dont waste your data
[15:37] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[15:38] <Kilos> if im not here and voyager2 comes back get him ti join the mailing list please guys there is info on the jhb release party
[15:39] <Kilos> oh its 42
[15:40] <Kilos> he just joined us on twitter
[15:41] <Kilos> 20 mins ThatGraemeGuy 
[15:41] <Kilos> nearly home time
[15:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> i rebooted my htpc earlier and it didn't come back
[15:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> wife just got home and kicked it in the pants
[15:42] <Kilos> lol
[15:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> so my bouncer was dead
[15:43] <Kilos> handy wife you got
[15:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> she rebooted it
[15:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> very windowsy wife i've got :)
[15:44] <Kilos> shame
[15:44] <Kilos> not many women go linux unless they are geeks
[15:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> or married to us, more likely
[15:45] <Kilos> lol
[16:22] <inetpro> so Kilos, what is it that eats a mother hen with week old chicks right from the nest?
[16:23] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[16:23] <Kilos> was she away from the hokke
[16:23]  * inetpro has lost about 5 grownup chickens in the last few weeks
[16:23] <inetpro> in the coup
[16:24] <Kilos> they just gone or are there feathers and bits and pieces
[16:24] <inetpro> very very few feathers
[16:24] <Cantide> merekat?
[16:24] <Kilos> you got dogs?
[16:24] <inetpro> not a lot of traces, but clearly some very few bones and feathers
[16:25] <Kilos> merekat normally steals eggs
[16:25] <inetpro> no its not dogs
[16:25] <Kilos> no man have you got dogs
[16:25] <Kilos> yes or no
[16:25] <Cantide> ah, we had a dog that used to eat our chickens
[16:25] <inetpro> yes I have dogs but it's not teh dogs for sure
[16:26] <inetpro> I know exactly what it is now
[16:26] <Kilos> do they bark on the nights hens disappear
[16:26] <superfly> inetpro: it's that massive snake :-P
[16:26] <inetpro> not much that I could figure it out
[16:26] <Kilos> lol
[16:27] <Kilos> might be one of them bigger cats
[16:27]  * inetpro moet seker die aap uit die mou laat
[16:27] <Kilos> rooikat
[16:27] <Kilos> your garden boy
[16:27] <inetpro> there's a clue for you Kilos
[16:27] <Kilos> come on man why ask if you know
[16:27] <inetpro> bobbejaan se kind
[16:27] <Kilos> where is the clue
[16:27] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <inetpro> 'n very small monkey with a long tail
[16:28] <Kilos> normally they dont steal where they work but they inform others where to go
[16:28] <Kilos> wow
[16:28] <Kilos> did you see it
[16:28] <inetpro> been seen eating my mealies by the gardener and now this weekend my son spotted him
[16:29] <Kilos> shoot it
[16:29] <Cantide> vervet?
[16:29] <inetpro> a very skelm monkey this one
[16:29] <Kilos> but surely when it grabs the hen the hen will scream
[16:30] <Kilos> and at night?
[16:30] <Kilos> they normally sleep at night
[16:30] <inetpro> well I seriously have not heard any commotion
[16:31] <Kilos> hang some poisoned bananas up and see
[16:31] <inetpro> have now closed the coup some more but it's a big hassle to close and open every day
[16:31] <Kilos> eish
[16:32] <inetpro> like on Saturday I was late
[16:32] <inetpro> locked them up just after sunset and didn't realise that this thing got in and grabbed three chickens already
[16:33] <Kilos> ya monkeys jol in the day time
[16:33] <inetpro> only noticed yesterday that some three chickens were gone again with a few feathers here and there
[16:34] <Kilos> wow
[16:34] <Kilos> normally they steal fruit and veggies
[16:34] <inetpro> very windgat this one
[16:35] <inetpro> will now have to make some plan to catch it
[16:35] <Kilos> poison or shotgun
[16:35] <Kilos> not easy to trap a monkey methinks
[16:36] <inetpro> I think it was about three weeks now since I closed properly, so Saturday he must have been very hungry and took his chances
[16:36] <Kilos> or leave a smallish entrance and string 220v wires there so it cant get in without touching them both
[16:37] <Cantide> either that or you'll have roast chicken in the morning :)
[16:37] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <inetpro> the first one he grabbed (the hen with chicks on the nest) really had me thinking
[16:38] <Kilos> weird that
[16:38] <Kilos> only one cure. kill it before it teaches the whole tribe
[16:38] <inetpro> there were very few traces of anything, so much so that I thought it had to be a human
[16:39] <inetpro> but humans won't catch a hen with chicks
[16:39] <Kilos> well according to eveolutionist we come from them
[16:39] <inetpro> now you coming with stories
[16:39] <Kilos> but evolutionists dont say why all the monkeys didnt evolve
[16:40] <Kilos> string 220v wires man
[16:41] <inetpro> that sounds dangerous
[16:41] <Kilos> for the monkey ya
[16:42] <Kilos> 2 planks fastened either side of the gap with bare wires across and an extension cord to connect it to
[16:42] <Kilos> very easy
[16:43] <inetpro> Cantide: my son says it looked more like a nagapie to him, not a vervet
[16:43] <Kilos> bare wires tween planks and from them insulated wire with a plug on to plug into extension
[16:43] <inetpro> not sure what you call a nagapie in the lingo
[16:43] <Kilos> wow so small stealing whole fowls
[16:43] <Kilos> or bantams
[16:43] <Kilos> ?
[16:43] <inetpro> bantams
[16:43] <Kilos> eish
[16:44] <Kilos> string wires
[16:44] <Kilos> if it dont kill it will at least teach it that you coop is a nono
[16:45] <inetpro> ahh, bush baby
[16:45] <Kilos> someones pet that escaped
[16:46] <inetpro> said it has a bushy tail
[16:46] <Kilos> eish and chickens cost bucks
[16:49] <Kilos> farming is tough hey inetpro 
[16:50] <inetpro> Kilos: very
[16:50] <Kilos> the larger monkeys without tails steal sheep
[16:50] <inetpro> always more challenges
[16:50] <Kilos> yip
[17:19] <trender> how does a monkey steal a sheep :)
[17:20] <trender> sounds like you have a king kong problem there
[17:20] <Kilos> carefully and quickly
[17:20] <Cantide> with a bakkie
[17:22] <Kilos> lol
[17:35] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[17:35] <not_found> Uncle Kilos , how are you?|!?!
[17:35] <Kilos> good ty not_found and you?
[17:36] <not_found> alive... kicking a bit also
[17:36] <confluency> We don't "come from" monkeys; we and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor.
[17:37] <confluency> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
[17:39] <not_found> >..
[17:39] <not_found> >.>
[17:40] <Kilos> hehe
[17:57]  * not_found installing Debian on his Android phone so he can linux while he linux'sesews
[17:58] <Kilos> nice
[18:11] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:11] <inetpro> looks like 8ta is not so generous after all
[18:11] <Kilos> why?
[18:11] <inetpro> seems there system is fixed again
[18:12] <Tonberry_> their coding skills just suck
[18:12] <Kilos> i foned and battled to get to the data peeps
[18:12] <inetpro> no more free data
[18:12] <Kilos> lol
[18:12] <Kilos> kept going to wrong place
[18:12] <Kilos> called 183 and they kept telling me to call 183
[18:12] <Kilos> duh
[18:13] <Kilos> eventually they managed to get a transfer through that didnt disconnect
[18:13] <Kilos> took 8 phone calls
[18:14] <Kilos> now wait for them to call back
[18:14] <inetpro> South Africa’s biggest ADSL bandwidth hogs http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/76188-south-africas-biggest-adsl-bandwidth-hogs.html?utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer:%2BjanvZA%2Bon%2Btwitter&buffer_share=fe4c3
[18:15] <inetpro> sad to see 11 people using more than 500GB a month
[18:15] <Kilos> whew
[18:15] <inetpro> and 122 using between 100 and 500 GB
[18:16] <Kilos> wow i wonder what they do
[18:17] <Kilos> watch and download movies 24/7
[18:19] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[18:19] <Vince-0> 'eve
[18:20] <not_found> k-pop style - http://youtu.be/Ihi_kJJj_8A
[18:21] <Cantide> heh
[18:21] <Cantide> 2NE1 :)
[18:21] <not_found> ftw :p
[18:22] <Cantide> I like I am the best
[18:22] <Cantide> and ... umm..
[18:22] <Cantide> ah, I love you
[18:22] <not_found> my three faves too :p
[18:22] <not_found> scary >.>
[18:23] <Cantide> awesome music videos - props, costumes, everything '-'
[18:23] <Cantide> not_found, do you like SISTAR?
[18:23] <Cantide> check out SISTAR19 - Gone not around any longer
[18:23] <not_found> don't know
[18:23] <Cantide> and SISTAR19 - Ma Boy
[18:23] <not_found> kk, will do thanks :)
[18:23] <not_found> Cantide, specific song?
[18:24] <Cantide> Gone not around any longer
[18:24] <Cantide> and Ma Boy!
[18:24] <not_found> ah busy buffering as I type :p
[18:24] <Trixar_za> I propose the adaption of the UGT: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
[18:24] <Cantide> :)
[18:24] <Cantide> you might like 2NE1 a little less, for that I apologise
[18:25] <not_found> nah - I am the best is awesome
[18:26] <Cantide> :p
[18:26] <Cantide> 내가 잴잘나가 or something
[18:26] <not_found> haha
[18:27] <Cantide> my Korean still sucks :p
[18:29] <Kilos> i go rest some
[18:29] <not_found> night
[18:30] <Kilos> no i wanna try download some after 11pm but need to lie down now
[18:30] <Kilos> old age you know
[18:33] <Cantide> not_found, what do you think of SISTAR19 ?
[18:33] <not_found> sorry got distracted with http://youtu.be/3brcfttchzA
[18:33] <not_found> will finish after
[18:33] <Cantide> :p
[18:35] <not_found> floor <3
[18:35] <not_found> she must become a member of nightwish!!!
[18:35] <Cantide> >_>
[18:35]  * Cantide is more interested in 혀린 and 보라
[18:36] <not_found> I enjoy my k-pop but I enjoy other things more :p
[18:36] <Cantide> hehe
[18:36] <Cantide> yeah
[18:36] <Cantide> I was listening to a lot of Rammstein earlier
[18:38]  * not_found is still a fan... but their older things I enjoy more than the latest stuff
[18:38] <Cantide> yeah
[18:39] <Cantide> well, some of the later stuff is really good
[18:39] <Cantide> but just recently i stopped liking it
[18:39] <Cantide> listening to "Hilf mir" now :)
[18:39] <not_found> sistar is ok.. but I do believe this is slightly better - http://youtu.be/bw9CALKOvAI :
[18:39] <not_found> :p
[18:39] <Cantide> no way :p
[18:40] <Cantide> bubble pop is more "fun", sure
[18:40] <Cantide> but i find SISTAR to be a little more serious
[18:40] <Cantide> and more artistic
[18:40] <not_found> k-pop != serious
[18:40] <Cantide> hahaha
[18:40] <Cantide> try Aquibird :p
[18:40] <not_found> http://youtu.be/ASO_zypdnsQ
[18:40] <Cantide> lol
[18:40] <Cantide> of course Psy's image is mischief
[18:41] <not_found> that is as serious as I will go
[18:41] <Cantide> he thrives on not being serious :p
[18:41] <Cantide> hehe
[18:41] <Cantide> i like things that are less superficial
[18:41]  * Cantide shrugs
[18:41] <not_found> :)
[18:41] <Cantide> probably why i like Rammstein a lot
[18:41] <Cantide> to each their own :p
[18:42] <not_found> trust me I spent $200 dollars on itunes this month and only two songs where k-pop :p
[18:42] <Cantide> lol
[18:42] <Cantide> yeah, I have like 10 kpop songs
[18:42] <Cantide> out of my 1500-odd
[18:42] <Cantide> but they are slowly growing
[18:42] <Cantide> as i'm exposed to more kpop >.<
[18:42] <not_found> mostly symphonic metal and a few hard rock bands I liked from the 80's
[18:43] <Cantide> oh, hence the Nightwish
[18:43] <not_found> and i increased my iron maiden collection just because :p
[18:43] <Cantide> lol
[18:43] <Cantide> that brings back memories
[18:43] <not_found> I will be listening to the irons in 20 years... not sure about psy
[18:44] <Cantide> of course
[18:44] <Cantide> it all comes down to artistic value and depth, imho
[18:44] <Cantide> of which psy has zero
[18:44] <Cantide> but he is fun
[18:44] <Cantide> like HyunA :p
[18:44] <not_found> bought the latest concert on itunes... mistake... stupid drm can't watch it on anything else than itunes >.<
[18:44] <Cantide> haha
[18:45] <Cantide> thanks for confirming why i don't use itunes or anything apple :p
[18:45] <not_found> at least the music is transferrable 
[18:45] <not_found> or copy-able
[18:45] <not_found> I will find a way of killing the drm...
[18:45] <not_found> there is always a way
[18:45] <Cantide> yeah
[18:45] <Cantide> you could always play it and record internal audio
[18:45] <Cantide> might lose quality though, not sure
[18:46] <Cantide> also, recording video is less suitable
[18:46] <not_found> I have all the songs.. I like to watch the concerts (why I got it :P)
[18:47] <Cantide> :p
[18:47] <not_found> http://youtu.be/O-8mnVqhKNw >.<>
[18:48] <Cantide> w.. what is this.. i don't even..
[18:50] <not_found> +1
[18:56] <not_found> cheers all
[18:57] <inetpro> hello not_found
[18:57] <Cantide> good bye~
[18:57] <Cantide> i'm now watching waveya on youtube
[18:57]  * Cantide blames not_found
[18:57] <inetpro> and here's a new screenshot of my 8ta bundles https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajnda6o6nd55ed6/8taDataBundle_20130429.jpg
[18:58] <inetpro> now the sad part here is that it seems I will loose a 1GB of data tomorrow
[18:59] <inetpro> looks like a Once-off Telkom Mobile Night Surfer Data expiring in May has activated before the one expiring tomorrow
[19:02] <Cantide> ah
[19:02] <Cantide> one of my friends emailed them and complained about that
[19:02] <Cantide> wasting data that will expire later
[19:02] <Cantide> not fair :p
[19:03] <Cantide> i'm not sure what their response was
[19:05] <Cantide> good night 
[19:05] <Cantide> '-'/
[19:19] <magespawn> evening all
[19:21] <inetpro> good evening magespawn
[19:22] <magespawn> or good morning (in UGT - Trix[a]r_za)
[19:23] <magespawn> inetpro: i thought i was using a lot when i got up to 26-28 gigs a month
[19:28] <inetpro> magespawn: yep, I don't know how anyone can use that much
[19:29] <inetpro> no wonder our networks are slow 
[19:57] <magespawn> well i can using that much now and then maybe, but where do you store that much data on anregular basis?
[19:58] <magespawn> ^see
[19:59] <magespawn> is there much difference between centos and ubuntu?
[19:59] <superfly> yes
[19:59] <superfly> centos is redhat-based and ubuntu is debian-based
[19:59] <magespawn> but from a user point of view?
[20:00] <superfly> inetpro: the speed of our networks has nothing to do with how much bandwidth is consumed
[20:00] <superfly> magespawn: centos is chiefly a server distro, why would you use it as a desktop?
[20:00] <inetpro> superfly: uh, why you saying that?
[20:00] <inetpro> oh
[20:01] <magespawn> i am not, just watching a video on nagios and the install machine is running centos
[20:01] <inetpro> superfly: well if it is over utilised surely it will effectively slow down
[20:01] <inetpro> only so much that can fit through the pipe at any one point
[20:02] <superfly> inetpro: the problem is it is NOT over utilised
[20:02] <superfly> inetpro: we have bandwidth coming out of our ears, compared to a few years ago
[20:02] <inetpro> oh sure in certain areas, but not everywhere
[20:03] <superfly> inetpro: OK, true, it depends on your local exchange, but still, amount of data != throughput
[20:03] <inetpro> agreed
[20:09] <magespawn> okay so the differences are mainly with things like package managers and default setups? but same basic principles apply
[20:11] <magespawn> i think i am quite lucky on the adsl exchange front, not many users here in hluhluwe
[20:26] <superfly> magespawn: indeed, you're dealing with rpm instead of deb, not sure what the package management tool is, and like I said, centos is usually a server distro (hence why they're installing nagios on it)
[20:27] <magespawn> yum is the package manager
[20:29] <magespawn> will dig up instructions for ubuntu server, do not want to change all of that now
[20:29] <magespawn> love the names people come up with for things
[20:41] <trender> evening people
[20:41] <trender> looks like kilos fell asleep connected to mirc :)
[20:42] <trender> oke is gonna burn his cellphone out :)
[20:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:43] <Kilos> i was just lying down man
[20:43] <Kilos> and i use xchat or konversation not mirc
[20:44] <Kilos> magespawn, you here?
[20:44] <trender> sorry meant irc
[20:44] <Kilos> lol
[20:44] <trender> :P~~~
[20:44] <magespawn> yup Kilos still here
[20:45] <Kilos> did you get that iso updated
[20:47] <magespawn> nah but did not try yet, had to get home, had info on pc for fish one afrikaans speech
[20:48] <Kilos> ok lets think on it tomorrow
[20:48] <Kilos> put the iso on your desktop then use the zsync first
[20:49] <Kilos> if its a buntu iso it should work i think
[20:50] <magespawn> no it is kali linux
[20:50] <Kilos> oh my
[20:50] <magespawn> but it is debian based
[20:51] <Kilos> maybe you can modify the command to suit. i had to get help from the crash kid
[20:51] <Kilos> what you gonna do with that
[20:51] <magespawn> will try
[20:51] <Kilos> or maybe even the wget
[20:52] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[20:52] <inetpro> Kilos: pomg
[20:52] <Kilos> can wget complete a download it didnt start?
[20:52] <Kilos> dont tell me man wget
[20:52] <magespawn> it is the new version of backtrack, it has all sorts of network tools installed by default, for testing networks
[20:52] <magespawn> busy reading that now lol
[20:53] <magespawn> inetpro did you see my g+ post about man?
[20:53] <Kilos> i know the wget -c completes a broken download
[20:54] <inetpro> Kilos: you can only try
[20:54] <Kilos> but dunno if it will do it on a download something else did
[20:54] <Kilos> tell magespawn man
[20:54] <magespawn> may have to try
[20:54] <Kilos> i just ping you to wake you up
[20:56] <inetpro> I actually doubt that it will work
[20:56] <inetpro> sorry, am busy learning a bit of iptables 
[20:57] <inetpro> juggling and refreshing me memory
[20:57] <Kilos> good when i install server again you can help
[20:57] <Kilos> hehe
[20:58] <inetpro> haha
[20:58] <magespawn> wget man says the -c option will complete a download started by something else
[20:58] <inetpro> actually am trying to do some traffic accounting on my router
[20:58] <inetpro> with busybox
[20:59] <Kilos> sounds ggod that magespawn 
[20:59] <magespawn> have to use the same directory and file name
[21:00] <Kilos> ya
[21:00] <Kilos> wget is a lekker tool
[21:00] <Kilos> i use it everytime i download biggish stuff
[21:01] <Kilos> the pro has to help me get the link right though most of the time
[21:07] <Kilos> Mezenir, what download manager you use in firefox
[21:08] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[21:08] <Kilos> magespawn, i mean
[21:09] <inetpro> Kilos: the default
[21:09] <Kilos> come on come on times awastinfg
[21:09] <Kilos> awasting
[21:09] <inetpro> ai!
[21:10] <inetpro> pragtig!
[21:10] <Kilos> what is the default? is it already there or must i add on
[21:10] <inetpro> Kilos: nothing to add
[21:10] <inetpro> just start downloading
[21:10] <Kilos> yay thank you
[21:10] <inetpro> but then
[21:10] <Kilos> wat is pragtig
[21:10] <inetpro> I got my traffic accounting to work
[21:11] <magespawn> i use downthemall, a firefox add on
[21:11] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[21:11] <inetpro> why do you want to use firefox for downloading when wget is better?
[21:11] <Kilos> dunno where to get the link here
[21:12] <Kilos> http://scummvm.org/compatibility/
[21:12] <magespawn> habit from ms days, also some sites do not give you the link just a button to click, so add them to dta then use that link to wget, also saves link to be used later
[21:14] <Kilos> oh ty
[21:23] <Kilos> lol ok
[21:24] <Kilos> i dunno where to find them games now
[21:27] <magespawn> good night owls
[21:28] <Kilos> night magespawn sleep tight
[21:59] <Kilos> night all sleep tight