[00:00] <kate_r> basically 12.04 security
[00:00] <kate_r> Dr_willis: my sources.list doesn't seem to have it
[00:01] <Dr_willis> im not on ubuntu to check right now.
[00:03] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Ok, this is weird. It upgraded the packages and now it's upgrading the system when I click again...
[00:11] <altin> hey guys, my 9cell battery lasts only 5h with ubuntu and optimus tech nvidia graphics, I have bumblebee installed though! How normal is this? Should it last higher?
[00:14] <jcrza> Woah, 13.04 huh?
[00:15] <nickgzzjr> Hi can someone help me figure out why my ubuntu is not picking up any video camera in /dev/video0 ?
[00:15] <jcrza> Just got a message on my ubuntu box
[00:15] <jcrza> If I run a postgre server and some python scripts should I have any trouble with upgrading?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Sorry I had to make a store run, how long did the first upgrade take, and how many packages are being shown loaded now?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> downloaded*
[00:16] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: it was 300 MB
[00:16] <the_drow> Now it's installing ~1000 packages
[00:17] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: and the title is Distribution Upgrade unlike before
[00:17] <nickgzzjr> Can someone help me figure out why my ubuntu is not picking up any video cameras in /dev/video0? Anyone?
[00:17] <silverex> Yo, so I just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04. Problem is that now when I start up my computer, the resolution is off and there's no dash or menu bar. After a couple of minutes a box comes up saying that compiz has crashed. How could I fix this?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, were you fully updated the first time you hit the upgrade, could it have been you hit the button at the bottom rather then the top?
[00:18] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: got the drivers?
[00:18] <basiclas_> are there any lists of ubuntu friendly laptops? :) i need a new laptop
[00:18] <nickgzzjr> the_drow im not sure how can I check?
[00:18] <jcrza> I really want to upgrade to 13.04. Is it ... safe yet?
[00:19] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: maybe I haven't noticed... Idk. On the other hand the wireless card driver stopped working and I had to reinstall it
[00:19] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: did it work before?
[00:19] <nickgzzjr> the_drow: No, not with this image, its a custom ubuntu build, for a arm board.
[00:19] <Blue11> having an issue with xubuntu 12.10  not all the indicator icons show up in the taskbar and there is no way to add them.  speaker icon and battery indcator.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> basiclas_, Here is a list, many that will run are not listed is all, knowing the hardware of what you want to purchase might be better way. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[00:20] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: then the drivers might not exist
[00:20] <bmomjian> basiclas_: Lenovo is usually good with Ubuntu
[00:20] <nickgzzjr> the_drow: well I have another image that some guy online made and it works there. How can I add the drivers
[00:20] <nickgzzjr> ?
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Sounds like there was a glitch somewhere a upgrade that runs and finishes and is rebooted to be the same is like very strange.
[00:21] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: google them up first. I don't know what kind of camera you are using
[00:21] <Blue11> dang logged me out -- anyway xubuntu does not show speaker or battery icon in the task bar.  I cant right click and add them.  suggestions?
[00:22] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: why won't you use the other image then?
[00:22] <altin> my 9cell battery lasts only 5h with ubuntu and optimus tech nvidia graphics, I have bumblebee installed though! How normal is this? Should it last higher?
[00:22] <rodolfo> hi
[00:22] <altin> longer**
[00:23] <rodolfo> I'am from Brasil
[00:24] <silverex> Yo, so I just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04. Problem is that now when I start up my computer, the resolution is off and there's no dash or menu bar. After a couple of minutes a box comes up saying that compiz has crashed. How could I fix this?
[00:25] <savio> altin i think its normal
[00:25] <zonk1024> silverex: first step is trying to find output that says why it crashed.
[00:25] <Tatuus> Musicbrainz doesn't look up for CD titles on 13.04.....
[00:26] <Tatuus> or do i have to add something ?
[00:26] <jcrza> If I upgrade to 13.04 am I in danger of having packages not be available for it?
[00:26] <vemacs> Oh dear
[00:26] <silverex> zonk1024: How would I do that?
[00:27] <vemacs> My fermi-based laptop and fermi-based graphics card
[00:27] <vemacs> Can't boot the liveUSB.
[00:27] <vemacs> have to disable nouveau thru boot flags still ;_;
[00:28] <zonk1024> silverex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15612/where-does-compiz-log-error-messages  ?
[00:29] <Arpad2> !opengl
[00:30] <Arpad2> how to enable opengl?
[00:30] <Guest> .
[00:30] <Guest> .
[00:30] <Guest> .
[00:30] <FloodBot1> Guest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <Tatuus> Rhythmbox doesn't fetch cd's  track info from Musicbrainz after 13.04 upgrade... How can i firx this?
[00:40] <Tatuus> Rhythmbox doesn't fetch cd's  track info from Musicbrainz after 13.04 upgrade... How can i fix this?
[00:43] <turova> I have an Dell XPS 17" (L702x).  Just installed 13.04.  Resolution comes up as 1280x1024, instead of the desired 1920x1080.  I can't seem to figure out the right set of xrandr commands to make it work… The bigger problem may be that I can't figure out where I should actually put the resolution modification commands, since there's no more xorg.conf.  Anyone know of a guide that'll work for 13.04?
[00:51] <wolftune> Hi, I have an update showing for linux-firmware but it won't install, it gives errors
[00:51] <wolftune> on Precise
[00:52] <Brotox> hi guys, i've deployed my rails app in heroku, but when i update my code locally and do git push master, nothing get modified ?!
[00:53] <pztrick> git push origin master?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Brotox: Did you actually git add and git commit?
[00:54] <Brotox> Jordan_U, do i've to do that each time ? i'm still a git newbie :$
[00:55] <jamie_> hey guys just wanted to ask a simple question - what DE/ GUI is closest to windows? I'm trying out Xubuntu atm..
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Have you run a update to make sure it is not a partial upgrade?
[00:55] <Brotox> jamie_, try cinnamon
[00:56] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: yes
[00:56] <jamie_> ah, looks nice, thanks!
[00:56] <wolftune> here's the errors: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/paste/gs88r
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Can you post the errors in a pastebin?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Brotox: Yes.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, On line I'm seeing some bugs and notations on microcode_amd, I don't really have a definitive answer for you, lothers might though.
[01:06] <hellpe> hello
[01:06] <Brotox> Jordan_U, i cloned a github repo, added my stuff and modified, deployed to heroku.
[01:06] <Brotox> the output of those commands are : Please make sure you have the correct access rights
[01:07] <Brotox> fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
[01:07] <hellpe> I think my EeePC 1015e is overheating, it is at 75°C and rising
[01:07] <hellpe> according to xfce4-sensors
[01:07] <Guest53752> hi, #On Ubuntu 12.10 xfce, I am trying to find the code to remove unusable choices from  my log-in menu. Like 1.) cairo-dock which is not a desktop choice; 2.) Gnome Openbox and/or; 3.) Openbox which I do not want anyone to play with, and especially how to hide until I can purge; 4.) Lubuntu ; 5.) Lubuntu Netbook  without wounding my xfce that has a month of personalizing, cairo-docking and my tender care put into it. I am
[01:07] <Guest53752>  hoping not to have to run a new ¨mini.iso¨ and start over. Any ideas out there?
[01:07] <hellpe> I'm worried it could cause hardware damages
[01:08] <somsip> Brotox: when you clone a github repo, the origin will be the github repo and you probably cannot push to that. So you may need to fork the repo, then work on your forked copy. But then, I have no idea about Heroku
[01:08] <MestreLion> where are nautilus thumbnailers defined? I noticed it isn't generating thumbnails for XPM files
[01:08] <Brotox> somsip, hmmm
[01:08] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: thanks for the help. Does this mean just wait and someone is probably addressing this?
[01:08] <hellpe> is there something I can do to prevent this ?
[01:09] <hellpe> I'm using Xubuntu Raring
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, You might try sudo apt-get install -f the sudo apt-get clean then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> then*
[01:11] <somsip> Brotox: or add a new remote repo which is the Heroku deployment point thing, and push to that
[01:12] <Brotox> somsip, heroku has nothing to do with GitHub itself !
[01:12] <Brotox> you push your code up to heroku, it does the rest.
[01:12] <somsip> Brotox: oh,  I thought the idea was you pushed directly to Heroku. But like I say, I know nothing about Heroku.
[01:13] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: thanks, but still got the same error
[01:14] <Brotox> somsip, nah, i've cloned that locally, i deployed to heroku, then did some changes locally, and now i need to update the deployed app at heroku
[01:15] <fjodor> hi which software does ubuntu use to automate adding external monitors?
[01:15] <somsip> Brotox: this is way off topic. But I believe you would need to add the Heroku deployment point as a new remote repo and push to that. But you are better off looking into this elsewhere
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Guest53752,  the *dm login screens have sessions they show defined by the vvarious  *.desktop files.  for example there should be a 'gnome.desktop' and a 'open.desktop' file you can move to some other location. restart lightdm. and they wont be shown
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Did you get any errors besides the same at the end. For example held packages....etc?
[01:16] <Dr_willis> Guest53752,  try 'locate gnome.desktop' to find the location. somewhere in /etc/ i recall
[01:16] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: yes, there was a held package error at the very beginning after the -f command
[01:17] <betrayd> fjodor theres different ways unfortunately, depending onthe video card in question
[01:17] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: well, looking back it just said that 1 was not upgraded
[01:17] <fjodor> betrayd: intel
[01:18] <fjodor> betrayd: i am using lubuntu and the apps just suck, i just want to use the automated thing that ubuntu uses
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Is te terminal open with all that, if so pastebin all of it.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> fjodor,  what you mean automated thing?
[01:19] <fjodor> Dr_willis: when i pull the plug it deactivates the external monitor automatically and activates it when i plug it in
[01:20] <Dr_willis> fjodor,  i cant say ive noticed that depending on the desktop. but it could be ive only dont it in Unity and Gnome-shell.  I thought Udev handled it.
[01:20] <fjodor> with lubuntu the external monitor is still active and there might be windows or somehting...
[01:21] <Dr_willis> got a tv i sometimes plugin. Noticed it gets auto configured in unity. and gnome-shell. Not sure if ive ever tried it in lubuntu, or kubuntu.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> i think its controllable via the xrandr tools also. so if you do that a lot. you could set up some script/icon to disable the 2nd monitor
[01:22] <fjodor> Dr_willis: with lubuntu you've got to run a program like arandr, grandr or lxrandr(lxde)
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, I suspect the package held for upgrade is just missing dependencies that may show up within a day or so.
[01:22] <Nothing_Much> I have to launch skype from a terminal because of NVIDIA drivers, can somebody help?
[01:22] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: ok, do you still want the paste? I was about to do that
[01:22] <Dr_willis> Nothing_Much,  help with what? why do you need to launch it from a terminal due to video drivers?
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Wold not hurt I'm curious,\.
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> I have to run this: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 skype
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> Every time just to launch it
[01:23] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[01:23] <betrayd> fjodor: i think that's because of the desktop manager, they have their own handling of extra monitors
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> When I switched to the Nouveau driver, it works
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> But then I couldn't play TF2
[01:23] <LargePrime> Hello.  12.0 server on a dedicated host.  what is the best way to add virtual hosts
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> Even though all the dependencies were already installed for TF2 and I HAVE been able to play on Nouveau before
[01:24] <sync350> Nothing_Much, www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html.  Let me know if this helps.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Nothing_Much,  make a script that does that.. or put that line in your .bashrc or .profile
[01:24] <fjodor> betrayd: no if i deactivate the extra monitor with lxpanel, openbox puts all windows on first monitor like ubuntu does automatically
[01:24] <Nothing_Much> I don't want a workaround
[01:24] <Nothing_Much> I want a fix
[01:25] <carrera> Nuveau driver crashes on my nVidia M360 during install. With the alternate edition gone, how can I install with generic drivers until I can get the proprietary drivers
[01:25] <Dr_willis> wait for ms to FIX it then?
[01:25] <Brotox> Jordan_U, i fixed it and updated my deployed heroku app
[01:25] <betrayd> and you are...
[01:25] <Brotox> Jordan_U,  git add & git commit & git push production master
[01:25] <Nothing_Much> MS? I thought it was a driver issue
[01:25] <Brotox> ;)
[01:25] <Dr_willis> you want a fix for what seems to be a bug in skype. which is owned by ms..
[01:26] <carrera> Any suggestions?
[01:26] <tilde> I'm trying to double boot windows 8 and ubuntu 13.04, and I have some questions about manual partitioning. First, where do I put the bootloader? in the EFI partition, or in my main Ubuntu partition?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> and the work around is rather trivial.
[01:26] <carrera> Nuveau driver crashes on my nVidia M360 during install. With the alternate edition gone, how can I install with generic drivers until I can get the proprietary drivers?
[01:27] <bd___> Hello. Do you recommend Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.4? Thanks
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> Depends
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> bd___ what do you want?
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> Like, do you plan to use it as a desktop or server or have any other things you want from the OS?
[01:27] <bd___> Nothing_Much: Desktop usage :)
[01:27] <oldbreed> Hey, all, I have an external hard drive here that I need to scan for viruses -- what software should I use"?
[01:28] <bd___> Normal, all-around desktop usage
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> Would you like semi-bleeding edge (more current) software or would you rather have stable software?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  clamav is in the repos for scanning for windows viruses. theres other av apps out for linux also
[01:28] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  you are meaning  to scan a external usb  with windows files for window viruses?
[01:29] <oldbreed> Yessir
[01:29] <carrera> Dr_willis, Nuveau driver crashes on my nVidia M360 during install. With the alternate edition gone, how can I install with generic drivers so I can apt-get the proprietary drivers?
[01:29] <Nothing_Much> bd___?
[01:29] <sync350> bd___, you could always burn a copy of each, and experiment a bit. ;)
[01:29] <Dr_willis> carrera,  tried the nomodeset option yet?
[01:29] <bd___> Nothing_Much: dont know. Are the current releases stable?
[01:29] <carrera> Dr_willis, No sir, don't even know what it is
[01:30] <phantomcircuit> how well does ubuntu work on a recent mac book pro?
[01:30] <bd___> sync350: takes time ehehe
[01:30] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[01:30] <MestreLion> where are nautilus thumbnailers defined? I noticed it isn't generating thumbnails for XPM files.. I cn see some thumbnailers defined in /usr/share/thumbnailers for PDF, EXE, videos... but not for images. Where is that set?
[01:30] <phantomcircuit> like if i walked into an apple store today and tried to install ubuntu how much would it suck?
[01:30] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  clamav is cl based, correct?  how do i run it and specify what it's scanning?
[01:30] <Nothing_Much> bd___ Technically everything's stable, the most current 13.04 just has newer software. 12.04 has older software, but gets support for 5 years (4 years left)
[01:30] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  it has a cli and a gui.. and you should read its docs..    it has options you tell it.
[01:31] <bd___> Nothing_Much: what is the one you use?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  its best to use several differnt av apps to scan files. just in case you get false positives, or missed hits
[01:31] <Nothing_Much> I use 13.04, it's amazing
[01:31] <jram0421> i installed ubuntu 13.04 64 bit alongside windows 8 and it has no option to boot into ubuntu
[01:31] <oldbreed> What others can you suggest, Dr_willis?
[01:32] <bd___> Nothing_Much: with the unity desktop? Can you describe why do you think it is amazing? Have you used the lts before?
[01:32] <Nothing_Much> But after 6 or 9 months (6 months is when the next release comes out, 9 months is when the release is eol'd), you have to upgrade to the next release if you're willing to do that.
[01:32] <bd___> Nothing_Much: is it hard to do upgrade?
[01:33] <jram0421> « !ops »
[01:33] <Nothing_Much> bd___, Unity is much faster and has improved drastically since LTS. I used 12.04 and it's pretty good, but I went to use 13.04 when it was in beta and was blown away.
[01:33] <OerHeks> oldbreed, follow this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[01:33] <Nothing_Much> To upgrade Ubuntu, you just type in the terminal "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[01:33] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  no idea. i dont really use them any more. I recall there being clamav and avg had one.. and  i recall 2 others
[01:34] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  some of the av companies had their own linux live cds for scanning systems i recall  Avast perhaps had one
[01:35] <bd___> Nothing_Much: Do you use a File Manager other than the new Nautilus in 13.04?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  clamav worked.. but i dont think it had the best  % rate of finding viruses.
[01:35] <Nothing_Much> I use everything stock that comes in 13.04, Nautilus is a bit different but I got used to it
[01:36] <turova> I have an Dell XPS 17" (L702x).  Just installed 13.04.  Resolution comes up as 12
[01:36] <turova> 80x1024, instead of the desired 1920x1080.  I can't seem to figure out the right set of xrandr commands to make it work… The bigger problem may be that I can't figure out where I should actually put the resolution modification commands, since there's no more xorg.conf.  Anyone know of a guide that'll work for 13.04?
[01:36] <bd___> Nothing_Much: I think I will choose 13.04 because of the performance improvements :) . Any bugs so far?
[01:37] <codezombie> can anyone explain the differance in usage? https://gist.github.com/gitt/4af5cdddfff0f811f173
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> No bugs as far as I've seen!
[01:38] <oldbreed> Dr_willis, do I need to add a PPA to get avast then?
[01:38] <tt> there are bugs
[01:38] <tt> I have no audio
[01:38] <tt> the kernel that shipped with 13.04 breaks HDMI audio for some (all?) users
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> HDMI?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  No idea. ive not used avast in a year+
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> Ah
[01:38] <Dr_willis> !av
[01:38] <bd___> Nothing_Much: what is with HDMI?
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, that bug doesn't affect me because I'm using a 2007-2008 build
[01:39] <Nothing_Much> bd___ what tt said, if you have HDMI audio then you're gonna have to use headphones and wait for a fix on the kernel
[01:40] <tt> uh
[01:40] <tt> headphones don't help if you don't have analog audio out
[01:40] <bd___> Nothing_Much: so HDMI audio doesn't work for every hardware config?
[01:42] <nur> Hi all
[01:42] <Dr_willis> ive had issues with hdmi audio depending on the chipset..  noticed it was not working yesterday for me.. when it had been working  fine for months..
[01:42] <nur> anyone develop Drupal on ubuntu 13.04 / localhost?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> HDMI audio was working all during beta testing.. i just noticved last night it wasent working.  (in 13.04) i havent tried it today
[01:43] <Toph2> is 13.04 out?
[01:43] <bd___> Dr_willis: you would recommend 12.04 or 13.04?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> bd___,  i always use the latest.
[01:43] <bd___> Toph2: you are late :)
[01:44] <Dr_willis> if you are doing a clean install. id say go with 13.04
[01:44] <Toph2> hehe,, my next question was like yours,, is it worth updating?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> if you got 12.04 working fine.. then you  might not need all the little fixs
[01:44] <tilde> Hello, does anyone know whether the bootloader goes in the EFI partition? (I am manually setting up partitions).
[01:44] <bd___> Dr_willis: Is it true that upgrades are not reliable, that you can get no desktop at all after upgrades?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> bd___,  i upgraded fine. many others have as well
[01:44] <Dr_willis> but i rarely upgrade. I tend to do clean installs.
[01:45] <bd___> Dr_willis: Do you use ppas?
[01:45] <Dr_willis> bd___,  yes i use several ppas for stuffs
[01:45] <savagecroc> hey i'm doing rsync
[01:45] <OerHeks> make sure you have the iso on usb/cd before upgrading
[01:45] <bd___> Toph2: I would say most people here agree that it is a very good release, so yes if you are on 12.10 upgrade :)
[01:45] <turova> no one here had to deal with any resolution issues because of optimus?
[01:45] <savagecroc> and i keep getting rsync: failed to set times on "/source/bla/bla
[01:45] <Dr_willis> 12.10 to 13.04 is  more of a 'polishing/cleanup' type improvement
[01:45] <bd___> Dr_willis: which ones do you think are "mandatory" for every ubuntu user? xD
[01:46] <Toph2> bd___,,, i didn't do 12.10,, i stayed with 12.04
[01:46] <savagecroc> i don't want rsync to have write permissions to the source directory
[01:46] <chickenmonger> I've upgraded two laptops from 12.10 to 13.04 already with no problems.
[01:46] <savagecroc> is there anyway around this?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> bd___,  never really noticed.  I just add some if i see an app i want to try
[01:46] <OerHeks> turova yes, i read lots of issues
[01:46] <joaquin> is this the right place to ask question about my journey into the Ubuntu Dev?
[01:46] <bd___> Dr_willis: like libreoffice ppa?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> bd___,  i tend to uninstall libreoffice ;P i rarely do word pcoressing
[01:46] <Morph4me> tilde: when partitioning manually ....the bootloader must go at the beginning  for EFI ....mine is 100mb  ....mount point i typed ...boot/efi ...
[01:47] <Dr_willis> i tend to do very little real 'work' on my computers ;P
[01:47] <bd___> Toph2: Thats tough. If you want you can upgrade to 12.10 then 13.04
[01:47] <bd___> Or fresh install of 13.04
[01:47] <bd___> But if you have a lot of configuration done already maybe stay with the lts would be better. Depends on what you want Toph2
[01:48] <Toph2> bd___,,, i have had bad luck with upgrades,, i will do a fresh install
[01:48] <tilde> Morphe4me: if I am dualbooting with windows 8, is it still boot/efi, or something else? I don't want to overwrite the windows boot manager,
[01:48] <turova> OerHeks: My 13.04 install won't run at 1920x1080 and I can't figure out how to make that happen on my XPS17 (l702x).  I've tried to run some commands with xrandr but haven't figured out how to actually make it change the resolution.  Farthest I've gotten is seeing something like "cannot set resolution to size bigger than virtual display".  I think I just need to set up the xrandr stuff early in the boot process, but I can't figure out where
[01:48] <turova> since there's no more xorg.conf
[01:49] <tilde> oops, I meant Morph4me
[01:49] <bd___> Toph2: Remember that you will have to upgrade in 9 months if you install 13.04
[01:49] <Morph4me> tilde: i don't have it with Win8 BUT this is how i manually set it with ubuntu 13 .04 http://i.imgur.com/J6oOa7P.png
[01:51] <codezombie> bah, this is driving me nuts. df says I'm using 8GB of storage, but I cannot find it anywhere.
[01:51] <tilde> Morph4me: okay, thanks. I'm just a little worried about overwriting the windows boot manager. If I do accidently overwrite it, is there a way to fix it? (using boot repair or something?)
[01:52] <bean> codezombie, thats pretty easy to figure out. du -sh /*
[01:52] <bean> and then drill down
[01:52] <gandalfcome> Hey, I've got too teach some undergrads the command line and I'm looking for a nice online interactive command line tutorial. Any recommendations?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> codezombie,  seen log files get huge due to bugs. ;)
[01:52] <codezombie> bean: see my above gist... I did, and du -sh /* shows 1.1gb
[01:52] <bean> codezombie, have you tyied rebooting then?
[01:52] <codezombie> Dr_willis: not running any services
[01:52] <codezombie> bean: ys
[01:53] <codezombie> yes
[01:53] <Morph4me> tidle: you are doing it in the right order ,but i haven't went there yet  :)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> codezombie,  you have checked  /var/log and your users home for Xorg log files?
[01:53] <codezombie> Dr_willis; https://gist.github.com/gitt/4af5cdddfff0f811f173
[01:53] <tilde> Morph4me: wait what? doing what in the right order?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> so df and du are showing differnt stuff. Hmm not sure about hat
[01:54] <Morph4me> tilde : windows first because it would wipe ubuntu(s) bootloader
[01:55] <codezombie> Dr_willis: yea, this is driving me nuts.
[01:56] <tilde> Morph4me: ah, I see. Well thanks for your help!
[01:56] <Morph4me> good luck tilde
[02:00] <Dr_willis> codezombie,  could it it be somthing as odd as one app counting soft (or hard) links differntly?
[02:00] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: try looking in lsof output
[02:01] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: what would I be looking for htere?
[02:01] <carajo> hello!
[02:01] <johnjohn1011> i cloned my 160 GB drive to a new 2tb drive.  I was looking to bump up my 154 gb partition to use most of the drive. I saw that the swap is inside an extended partition.  does this need to be the case?
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: you could possibly have a file which has a fd open and hasn't been deleted in which case you would be looking for something with the string (deleted)
[02:01] <codezombie> Dr_willis: df uses the fs usage. I would think it should be accurate. This is a clean install, no idea why this is wrong.
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: it would also mean the space is counted from whatever fd is still open -
[02:02] <codezombie> SolarisBoy; nothing like that in the list :/
[02:03] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: ok - well good to log these things - codezombie how big is this disk?
[02:03] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: and is the issue that your trying to find space that df is reporting as used somewhere?
[02:04] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: yes, df says I'm using 8GB, du shows 1.2GB. This is a clean ubuntu server 12.04 install, so I shouldn't be using anything more than the minimal space required.
[02:04] <carajo> hello guys if I have a machine with 2 cores and 2 threads (2.5ghz) what is the meaning when I run gnome-system-monitor and one thread (i supposed) reach the 100%?
[02:04] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: https://gist.github.com/gitt/4af5cdddfff0f811f173
[02:04] <xub69> I mounted /proc into a chroot and when I ran ncdu it told me I had a 128TB drive, why doesn't everyone do this space saving trick?
[02:05] <carajo> what is the clock frecuency that my machine is working to?
[02:06] <Jordan_U> codezombie: Try running an fsck.
[02:06] <Jordan_U> !fsck | codezombie
[02:06] <codezombie> Jordan_U: yeah, I've done that. Thanks.
[02:07] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: ok - can you try this -
[02:07] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: du -s -h / and compare that output to df -h
[02:07] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: 1.2GB
[02:08] <carajo> hello guys if I have a machine with 2 cores and 2
[02:08] <carajo>  338 |               threads (2.5ghz) what is the meaning when I run
[02:08] <carajo>  339 |               gnome-system-monitor and one thread (i supposed)
[02:08] <carajo>  340 |               reach the 100%?
[02:08] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: can you post that?
[02:08] <carajo> please
[02:09] <codezombie> root@mini:~# du -s -h /
[02:09] <codezombie> 1.2G	/
[02:09] <Dr_willis> one core is at 100% ussage i belive carajo
[02:09] <Dr_willis> carajo,  htop may give better info
[02:10] <carajo> Dr_willis it remains showing 4 "threads"
[02:11] <Dr_willis> 2 cores each has hyperthreading  perhaps
[02:12] <carajo> but it does what you have supposed, what it means that the 4 theads have reached 100%?
[02:13] <carajo> Dr_willis yeah it is an intel core
[02:13] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: what's interesting, is that it doesn't seem to ever go below 8GB
[02:13] <codezombie> no matter what I remove
[02:14] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: it could be open files as stated
[02:14] <SolarisBoy> not neccessarily just deleted ones - does it persist reboots?
[02:14] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: open from what? nothing has been installed, except the OS. I've also rebooted, negating anything that would be open.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> codezombie: Does usage increase if you add files?
[02:15] <codezombie> Jordan_U: yes
[02:15] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: nothing needs to be installed - all running procs have open FD's in some form or manner
[02:15] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: even just the ones that are installed in the base deployment - more so than new apps/things - whats your uptime like?
[02:15] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: right, but out of dozens of server installs this is the first I've ever seen of this.
[02:15] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: ^
[02:16] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: clean install on a new box today
[02:16] <carajo> really i dont understand
[02:16] <codezombie> so uptime is zero pretty much
[02:16] <Dr_willis> carajo,  ive seen some tools say 100% when one thread (one part of one core) is running at 100%>. if all 4 were running full speed.. ive seen it say %400   it depends on  the monitoring tool
[02:16] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: whats the install method? (is it scripted, preseed? etc? in general the same on all?)
[02:16] <ceed^> How can I remove that mail notification envelope thing from the notification area?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> carajo,  you may want to ask in #hardware
[02:17] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I manually walk through the server installer from disk.
[02:17] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: The only software selected at install time is OpenSSH Server
[02:17] <codezombie> same for every install
[02:18] <carajo> hey dr Dr_willis thank you i go there
[02:18] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: can you post to pastebin output for fdisk -l (under sudo)?
[02:18] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: did you run that lsof under sudo?
[02:19] <SolarisBoy> so human error is a possibility also
[02:19] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: https://gist.github.com/gitt/98b808a8d53da8979bf3
[02:19] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I've done the install on this box three time to rule out any possible pebkac
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: =) i understand it felt the same each time...
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: can you post sudo parted -l?
[02:20] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: https://gist.github.com/gitt/98b808a8d53da8979bf3
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> i used preseed and pxe for multi server installs - thats the only way to be sure something is getting done right -
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> checking
[02:21] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I disagree with that statement
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> thats ok -
[02:21] <nxt_> hi
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: the issue is the partition starts 99.6MB into the disk
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> 99.6MB  492GB   492GB   ext4
[02:22] <SolarisBoy> thats your 8gb
[02:22] <codezombie> I'm confused how that equates to 8gb
[02:22] <trism> ceed^: sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages;
[02:23] <dysun> Hi all. I have an nVidia Geforce 7200 GS video card. I've finally managed to get the video drivers installed, but when I go under System -> Preferences -> Appearances -> Visual affects, the option is still greyed out. Any reason why this might be? I'm stuck =(
[02:24] <SolarisBoy> hrmm my bad you may be right there -
[02:24] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: is there a reason you did GPT partitions on both disks?
[02:25] <thomas____> part
[02:25] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/1050021
[02:25] <SolarisBoy> wait - codezombie where is swap taken from?
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone can tell me the version of ruby that comes standard with ubuntu 12.04?
[02:25] <bluebeat> hey, i recently update to 13.04, and im having this problem... i have a repeater at home that is most of the time disconnected, but when it is on the signal on my computer gets affected ( speed drops) how can i tell wcid to ignore the signal coming out of the repeater and only connect to the router... any ideas?
[02:26] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: an 8GB partition on the same disk
[02:26] <Guest24814> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4MCX3LbwJs
[02:26] <bluebeat> forgot to mention that i didnt have this issue on 12.10
[02:27] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: so sdxX where the last X - strange but seems relevant as your swap is about 8gb no?
[02:27] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I did consider this, but as I said I've never had this issue... Swap is /dev/sda3
[02:27] <SolarisBoy> where the last X is partition number*
[02:27] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: from the end of the disk
[02:28] <excelsiora> Is there a reason that tomboy is no longer standard on ubuntu?
[02:28] <Jordan_U> codezombie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131516/new-ext4-partition-and-used-space
[02:28] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: interesting
[02:29] <thomas____> excelsiora what ubuntu
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> yea there is over head but 8GB seems extreme
[02:29] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  i think it was disliked for several reasons., was no longer getting developed, and had some other issues.. i used it for a long time.
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> =( -
[02:30] <savagecroc> how do you run sudo but keep all the current environment variables?
[02:30] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: sorry, I think I forgot to do this: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/paste/Ro4Nf
[02:30] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/96965/tomboy-alternatives
[02:30] <codezombie> Jordan_U: ah, that definitely makes sense
[02:30] <thomas____> I must've added Tomboy on my own, can't remember, have no problems with it on 12.04, but don't use it all that much, just sayin'
[02:30] <SolarisBoy> savagecroc: try -E
[02:30] <Dr_willis> savagecroc,  i recall   sudo -i   and sudo -s, one of those did that. but i can never rember which one
[02:30] <savagecroc> thanks :)
[02:31] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: based on that, 8GB would still be less than 2% overhead.
[02:31] <Jordan_U> savagecroc: Do you really want to keep *all* environment variables (generally not considered safe) or just some specifica variable(s)?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> i used tomboy a lot - because ubuntu one had the feature to view/sync your notes. but that aparently wasent used much. ;( so its been phased out
[02:31] <SolarisBoy> i don't have that much overhead on my larger disks..
[02:31] <SolarisBoy> which is what i was basing that on -
[02:32] <bolly> hi
[02:32] <savagecroc> Jordan_U: hmm i really just want it to be able to use the SSH keys to logon to the remote machine
[02:32] <thomas____> I must be behind the curve on syncing stuff  Dr Willis perhaps you could clue me in on how valuable that is..???
[02:32] <bolly> im trying to debootstrap quantul armel but its failing o Couldn't download dists/quantal/main/binary-armel/Packages
[02:32] <savagecroc> sudo -E did the trick
[02:32] <bolly> any idea?
[02:32] <savagecroc> sudo -i didn't seem to work
[02:32] <Jordan_U> savagecroc: What is your end goal? Running ssh with sudo doesn't make much sense to me.
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> -i interactive -s shell
[02:33] <savagecroc> ah right :)
[02:33] <savagecroc> -E = keep the environment variables
[02:33] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[02:33] <Dr_willis> thomas____,  all my notes across all machines got synced because they were saved to ubuntu one, so i could even access them from any web browser.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> thomas____,  but its a gone feature..
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Be nice if they added some config sync features to work with ubuntu one. make ubuntu stand out a bit more.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Uubntu One just seems a bit of a afterthought these days
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> i like it
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> they fixed a lot of crap with it - because boy was it broken pre 12.04
[02:35] <Dr_willis> i got so many cloud storage accounts.. its scary. ;)
[02:35] <thomas____> I dunno....DR are you saying Ubunto One no longer has a sync feature...how to private message here also I am new on ifc
[02:35] <bluebeat> hey, i recently update to 13.04, and im having this problem... i have a repeater at home that is most of the time disconnected, but when it is on the signal on my computer gets affected ( speed drops) how can i tell wcid to ignore the signal coming out of the repeater and only connect to the router... any ideas?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> and the all seem to want me to auto-upload my android phone photos to them.
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> well thats why i like it because its there by default =)
[02:36] <SolarisBoy> hahaha Dr_willis
[02:36] <Dr_willis> thomas____,  ubuntu one no longer has the tomboy sync feature it had a few years back. (2 yr?)
[02:36] <l_r> hello
[02:37] <ugur> hey everybody
[02:37] <SolarisBoy> i kind of liked that feature (a lot) especially because i write a lot of stuff in notes and it was cool to have access to them from any ubuntu machine in a base installed app
[02:37] <l_r> my root disk is full
[02:37] <SolarisBoy> l_r: delete some files =)
[02:38] <l_r> SolarisBoy, it's because of a damn bug in the ext4 fs
[02:38] <SolarisBoy> l_r: nice
[02:38] <l_r> suddenly it appeared fulll
[02:38] <ugur> I want to ask did you like the new 13.04? I haven't upgraded from 12.10. What will I lose, what will I gain? Thanks in advance :)
[02:38] <l_r> i must find a solution ,fsck tells the fs is good after having fixed an inode
[02:38] <SolarisBoy> l_r: wow sounds bad - what bug is that? what causes it?
[02:38] <l_r> but the fs is still full
[02:39] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i don't know
[02:39] <SolarisBoy> l_r: post output to pastbin -
[02:39] <l_r> for sure it was not full when the thing happened
[02:39] <l_r> SolarisBoy, what output?
[02:39] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[02:39] <thomas____> ubotto
[02:39] <SolarisBoy> l_r: df? du and stuff i guess
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> unless there is anything else you want to add there - fs errors from logs etc?
[02:40] <thomas____> ubottu
[02:40] <thomas____> how do you get bot help
[02:40] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i am on another system, since i could not even boot, and i cannot mount the partition , df reported 0 bytes free though
[02:40] <carrera> I'm currently running ubuntu 12.04 with RAID 0. Do ubuntu or xubuntu 13.04 dektop detect RAID?
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> l_r: do you know if there is reserved space? if so have you tried a recovery shell?
[02:41] <memphisraines> Has Nautlius' behaviour with symlinks changed from 12.10 to 13.04?
[02:41] <JimmyNeutron> Anyone have any problems with 13.04 where after doing a cold boot, you don't see the login screen?  Doing a warm reboot(ctrl+alt+delete seems to help so far.  I have Bumblebee installed.
[02:41] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i ran fsck in the fail-safe mode
[02:41] <thomas____> what can I type in here command-wise its been a long time since I was in ifc channel
[02:41] <l_r> SolarisBoy, fsck wrongly reports the fs is ok
[02:41] <Jordan_U> carrera: RAID support hasn't changed between 12.04 and 13.04, and as the core of the OS is the same, it will be the same between all flavors of Ubunut.
[02:41] <SolarisBoy> l_r: did you check the space in safe mode as root?
[02:41] <JimmyNeutron> I have a feeling the problem I'm seeing is related to the Low Graphics resolution I encounter any previous version.
[02:41] <l_r> SolarisBoy, yes, 0
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> l_r: can you point me a link to the bug?
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> l_r: there is a flag -f which will force a fsck regardless of the journal status - have you used that in the fsck command line?
[02:42] <qin> !bot > thomas____
[02:43] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i ll try
[02:43] <oldbreed> Hey, guys, I'm tryna back up my system because I'm about to expand the partition.  But the backup program is giving me this error: "Temp space has 2358272 available, backup needs approx 68157440."
[02:43] <b4ulook4me> Hi all... some how solved, 13.04 nvidia graphics bootup freeze
[02:43] <ceed^> trism, thanks
[02:43] <l_r> i need to reboot to try
[02:43] <b4ulook4me> installed nvidia drivers and now working ok
[02:43] <l_r> i am on an old ubuntu
[02:44] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: that means the backup is trying to either use temp space for the destination location or as a location for temp ops like compression/encription or whatever,
[02:44] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks. Then why doesn't xubuntu 13.04 recognize my RAID0 partitions?  It doesn't even let me create new ones.
[02:44] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: if thats the destination for your backup - you may want to change it to a larger area if you don't have ability to expand that FS /tmp is on -
[02:44] <oldbreed> SolarisBoy: What do I do about it?  I've assigned the back up to an external hard drive, so I don't think the former is the problem
[02:44] <thomas____> !bot
[02:44] <b4ulook4me> n e one having experience in CUDA (nvidia)
[02:45] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: check in your backup program settings and see if you can change where it does its "work" at
[02:45] <Jordan_U> carrera: What type of RAID is it?
[02:45] <carrera> Jordan_U, software RAID0. I created it with ubuntu 12.04 server.
[02:45] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: and based on that size diff and the assumption that this did work at one point - maybe you have some additional unexpected large files in the source you didn't want to backup?
[02:47] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: do you mount /tmp on a normal disk or something else? like memory mount etc?
[02:47] <oldbreed> SolarisBoy:  I installed Ubuntu through Windows 7 and am attempting to delete the Windows 7 partition and expand Ubuntu into its place.  I don't think I've ever backed it up before, and the issue is probably that the Windows partition is too big
[02:47] <carrera> Jordan_U, Toshiba Qosmio x500 laptop with 2 x 480 GB SanDisk SSD and nVidia M360
[02:47] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  you mean you did a WUBI  install inside windows?
[02:47] <oldbreed> SolarisBoy: I have no idea what what you just said emans
[02:47] <oldbreed> Yes, Dr_willis
[02:47] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  then you CANT remove windows.
[02:47] <SolarisBoy> ugh...
[02:47] <oldbreed> Wait, what?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  wubi installs to a file on the windows partition
[02:48] <oldbreed> Aw, shit
[02:48] <b4ulook4me> Hi Dr_Willis...
[02:48] <oldbreed> There's gotta be some workaround
[02:48] <Dr_willis> there are guides out on converting a wubi install to a normal install.. but i would backup improtnat stuff and do a clean install
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: what are you trying to do?
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> oldbreed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi  as Dr_willis mentioned
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well migrateing wubi works. ;)
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> sounds scary
[02:49] <oldbreed> What's the risk?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> risk - it dont work. ;)
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> disk obfuscation
[02:49] <subcool> why isnt this like working...
[02:49] <subcool> sudo chown -R root:admin .  ## make this directory writable by the system administrators
[02:49] <Dr_willis> backup your wubi disk image file to some place else.. you can mount and access it from a ubuntu install
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> subcool: whats the error/return code if it failing?
[02:50] <subcool> SolarisBoy, chown: missing operand after `root:admin'
[02:50] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: then what precisely do I need to do.  I have an external hard drive that I'm attempting to back Ubuntu up onto, but I'm met with the error before.  I don't know how to resolve this
[02:50] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  what error?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  i just format my external to ext4 and copy my files over ;)
[02:51] <Jordan_U> subcool: Be very careful with chmod and chown with the -R switch, you may be changing a lot of files and thus it may be hard to reverse (as you won't know the original settings for each file).
[02:51] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: Temp space has 2358272 available, backup needs approx 68157440.
[02:51] <subcool> Jordan_U, its ok, its a kinda empy folder
[02:51] <subcool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN - step 3
[02:52] <giupeppo> hi guys, I've just installed lubuntu 13.04 on my sony netbook but sound doesn't work.. can you help me please? (launching alsamixer it seem I've 3 different soundcards) thanks!!
[02:52] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: I can't format my external hard drive -- my image of windows is on there
[02:52] <carrera> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[02:53] <subcool> ok- guess the "." was necessary
[02:54] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  so how are you trying to back up to it? what are you backing up?
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> lols
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> subcool: you should also put what you typed not what you thought you copied =)
[02:54] <subcool> what?
[02:54] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  I'm using the native Ubuntu backup program to try to back Ubuntu up to my external hard drive (about 400 GB hard drive)
[02:54] <subcool> i c/p'ed the command
[02:54] <subcool> from my terminal
[02:54] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: But I get the previous error
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> udo chown -R root:admin .  ## make this directory writable by the system administrators
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> this one?
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> with the "." ? right
[02:55] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614650
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> subcool: did you post that one before?
[02:56] <subcool> oh ya- :/
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> =)
[02:56] <giupeppo> hi guys, I've just installed lubuntu 13.04 on my sony netbook but sound doesn't work.. can you help me please? (launching alsamixer it seem I've 3 different soundcards) thanks!!
[02:57] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  never used it.. i just backup my imporntant files. ive never done a  full system backup
[02:57] <azazel91> can anybody tell me why i cant connect to localhost
[02:57] <Dr_willis> azazel91,  connect how?
[02:58] <subcool> should i be concerned about this: subcool@AMDServer:/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa$ ./clean-all
[02:58] <subcool> rm: cannot remove `/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys': Permission denied
[02:58] <azazel91> i guess the server is not running im not sure
[02:58] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: So, theoretically, if I managed to back up my system, could I restore it outside of Windows and keep everything as it is now?
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> subcool: you need to be root to run those scripts int hat directory -
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> subcool: or use sudo
[02:58] <carrera> can anyone tell me how I can go from ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 13.04 and keep my RAID0 config?
[02:58] <subcool> SolarisBoy, ok- thanks.
[02:59] <subcool> i was considering the same. but- the example says sudo the frist times.
[02:59] <atrus> !error | azazel91
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: the ubuntu default program allows you to exclude by folder if that helps -
[02:59] <azazel91> oh ok i give you the details
[02:59] <Jordan_U> carrera: If nothing else you can upgrade to 2.10 then 13.04.
[02:59] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  teres dozens of ways to backup stuff. I dont backup an entire system. I just keep my improntant data files./ and any specaial configs somewhere.. then do a clean install and copy them back
[03:00] <carrera> Jordan_U, thank u sir but can I upgrade from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[03:00] <Jordan_U> carrera: You can also use the server install CD for 13.04. I'm still trying to figure out it the Desktop image is supposed to support mdraid.
[03:00] <atrus> carrera: #1: if your data is important, you back it up. if you don't have a backup, you don't consider it important. also, raid is NOT a backup.
[03:00] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks, u're awesome!  :)
[03:01] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  But I kinda wanna keep everything.  The whole reason I'm tryna delete Windows is because I was settled into Ubuntu...
[03:01] <Dr_willis> carrera,  you just upgrade, then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[03:01] <azazel91> well i installed this server a couple a months ago today i wanted to test it out so i went to the main page (http://localhost) but firfox cant obviously connect well thats what it says
[03:01] <foobArrr> does using compiz / compositing affect gaming performance?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  might be quicker to just reinstall and restore the imporntant stuff.. people try to hard to 'clone'  setups..
[03:01] <atrus> carrera: #2 do you have some reason to think upgrading from 12.04->12.10->13.04 wouldn't work? that's the usual approach for upgrading, raid or not.
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: if you don't run a webserver on localhost that would make sense
[03:01] <Jordan_U> carrera: The only difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu is the default set of installed packages. You can install xubuntu-desktop at any time (and remove whatever bits you don't want that came with ubuntu-desktop).
[03:01] <carrera> atrus, I have a recent backup but I can't even create RAID from xubuntu 13.04 desktop!
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: do you purposefully set you main page to the localhost on port 80?
[03:02] <azazel91> well i dont know what port example im a newbie and all
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: the http:// implies port 80 unless the port is specified after the HOSTNAME part -
[03:03] <azazel91> yes
[03:03] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: so in general that entry of having your browser default page be localhost - implies something is answering back like a webserver would - either by you having one installed locally - or forwarding ports or etc.
[03:04] <azazel91> so how exactly do i fix this
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: so if the problem is you can't connect to the localhost - and you indeed know that you should have a webserver there - then you should check if that webserver is up/running -
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: you need to know why you have localhost set in your browser more accurately though - that would help
[03:04] <carrera> Jordan_U, Dr_willis, atrus, I really don't want Unity and Zeitgeist on my system. That's why I'm moving to xubuntu. Also, if I upgrade, would it upgrade to 13.04 server or desktop?
[03:04] <atrus> carrera: what do you have installed right now?
[03:04] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  What qualifies as important?
[03:05] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  What kinds of things should I be backing up?
[03:05] <carrera> 12.04 server, then I installed gnome
[03:05] <atrus> carrera: if you upgrade, i expect you'll basically have the same thing, but the 13.04 version.
[03:06] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  its your system.. you tell me whats imporntant to you..
[03:06] <carrera> but I have problems with wirless. It takes for ever to resolve and I'm on a 25 Mb/s connection.
[03:06] <azazel91> so solarisboy how to restart the server
[03:06] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  i normally just backup my home. and any custome configs
[03:06] <carrera> I just booted with xubuntu 13.04 live and pages open ever so quickly
[03:07] <carrera> also, the 12.04 server kept looking for Ethernet connection at boot, therefore slowing down my boot
[03:07] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  One last question on the cloning...can I just copy my whole folder into the external drive?
[03:08] <oldbreed> And how do I even go about installing the new OS without an OS?  I've never operated a computer without an operating system
[03:08] <Jordan_U> carrera: Again, the difference between Ubuntu flavors is only the default set of installed packages (and, in the case of server a different installer), it's all "Ubuntu". If you installed Ubuntu server then installed the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, then installed tux racer then when you upgrade you will have all of the packages from ubuntu-server, and ubuntu-desktop, and you will also still have tux racer.
[03:08] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  you make a bootable cd.. or usb..  and boot it
[03:09] <oldbreed> How big a CD would I need?
[03:09] <Jordan_U> oldbreed: A DVD.
[03:09] <oldbreed> Jordan_U:  So a 700MB CD-RW Wouldn't work?
[03:10] <carrera> atrus, at this point, I'm willing to forget about my 1 TB of data and read it back from backup but xubuntu 13.04 desktop and I bet ubuntu desktop will not let me create RAID partitions
[03:10] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks. Then upgrade is not an option
[03:10] <Guest12875> what binds the keyboard fn volume keys' up/down to the pulseaudio mixer configuration and where do I find it please?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> oldbreed: If you're trying to install Ubuntu Desktop, no. (technically you could install from the mini.iso, which will even fit easily on a business card CD, but I doubt that you want to do that).
[03:11] <Jordan_U> carrera: You're welcome.
[03:11] <carrera> can anyone tell me how to create RAID partitions with 13.04 desktop?
[03:11] <carrera> is it even possible?
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> Guest12875: check in the Settings>Keyboard section
[03:11] <Guest12875> yes it is but why do a software raid
[03:11] <oldbreed> Jordan_U:  I just realized that I could us the 400GB external HDD I have -- that would work, correct?
[03:12] <Jordan_U> carrera: I think your best option would probably be to install via the netboot iso, or install via the server iso then install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage (and remove any of the ubuntu-server packages you don't want).
[03:12] <Jordan_U> oldbreed: Use it for what?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  make a bootable usb flash drive.. its the handiest thing to have and to install from
[03:13] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  I have an 8GB flash drive on-hand right now.  Would that be sufficient?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  yes
[03:13] <Dr_willis> it dosent need to be more then like 4gb i think
[03:13] <carrera> Jordan_U, I have problems with my current server install. For one, it takes too long to boot when ethernet is not connected. 2. page loads, dns resolves, take too long!  :(
[03:13] <erdmutter92> Does ubuntu 13.04 have out of the box support for the fans in the macbook pro?
[03:14] <carrera> Jordan_U, that's why I don't want to go the Server + DE root again
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> !mac | erdmutter92
[03:15] <Jordan_U> erdmutter92: I think I answered you the last time you asked that. Do you remember that?
[03:15] <carrera> Jordan_U, but I haven't tried netboot yet. Someone on #xubuntu also suggested that
[03:15] <erdmutter92> Jordan_U: No, I don't I am sorry :\
[03:15] <carrera> Jordan_U, it's a 30 MB file
[03:16] <SolarisBoy> is just the base kernel and small environment enough to pull the other OS files from the net
[03:16] <SolarisBoy> the trade off is install time is longer than having it all on a local media -
[03:17] <carrera> Dr_willis, Jordan_U, atrus, many thanks for your help. Going to try netboot. Wish me luck!
[03:17] <BitcoinTicker> What's up
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[03:17] <Dr_willis> carrera,  id have a bootable cd/usb/dvd allready made.. incase that fails
[03:17] <erdmutter92> lotuspsychje: That document does not have information on fans nor the Macbook Pro 9,2.
[03:17] <Rootbrian> solarisboy: if you have a good quality high speed connection, it would be just as fast as from CD.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> erdmutter92: The fans in macs are controlled by the firmware, so the OS doesn't need to support anything for the fans to automatically turn on when things start getting hot. There is also some support for telling the firmware to increase the fan speed (or decrease it, though that's not recommended) beyond what it would normally do. I don't know if there is support for the latter bit for all macbook pro models.
[03:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone can tell me the version of ruby that comes standard with ubuntu 12.04?
[03:18] <BitcoinTicker> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?agj93792vkallkb MtGox bitcoin desktop ticker
[03:18] <Jordan_U> BitcoinTicker: Please don't post spam in this channel.
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> !ops | BitcoinTicker
[03:19] <erdmutter92> Jordan_U: Thank you :) my macbook pro was getting hot, and I was starting to worry because I could not hear the fan... though my boyfriend informed me that it might not need it quite yet. xD
[03:20] <Jordan_U> erdmutter92: Apple's defaults for the fan tend to be pretty low, I think that they value quietness over coolness (and remember that companies don't sell "laptops" anymore, just "notebooks" :)
[03:22] <erdmutter92> Jordan_U: lol so true...  xD
[03:22] <joaquin> somebody has a minute to help me out with the packaging guide?
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: wich channel can i request a new trigger?
[03:24] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: #ubuntu-ops, or just "/msg ubottu !foo is <reply> Foo is bar!".
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_u: tnx mate
[03:25] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: You're welcome.
[03:25] <zivester> anyone have ubuntu installed on a macbook with refit or refind? wondering how kernel updates are handled
[03:26] <Jordan_U> zivester: rEFIt and refind just load grub, which handles kernel updates the same way it does for other platforms.
[03:26] <subcool> Ok, i got a good one for you this time guys. Is there a way to deteremine which usb port is the usb2 or 3 port?
[03:26] <zivester> Jordan_U, I installed ubuntu without grub... and i had to manually copy my kernel images over to the /EFI/ directory of OSX
[03:27] <shantorn> usb3 ports are blue
[03:27] <Jordan_U> zivester: Why didn't you install grub?
[03:27] <zivester> Jordan_U, tutorials i followed said not to: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
[03:27] <zivester> and I would assume it would install to the MBR and would wipe out everything
[03:28] <Jordan_U> zivester: 1: It wouldn't install to the MBR if you were using grub-efi 2: Even if you were using grub-pc and installed grub to the MBR it wouldn't "wipe out everything", in fact it would "wipe out" or hurt anything.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. They need to make usb ports glow in the dark so i can find them when im trying to plug in somthing under the desk to the pc... ;)
[03:29] <zivester> Jordan_U, how do specificy whether it uses grub-efi and not grub-pc?  I'm not a mac user by any means, if I had a choice I wouldn't be using one
[03:30] <Jordan_U> zivester: The author of that Tutorial seems to assume that grub doesn't support EFI. Grub has supported EFI for longer than refind or rEFIt have existed.
[03:31] <Jordan_U> zivester: If you boot the Ubuntu installation media via [U]EFI then it will detect that and install grub-efi, and you can always install the grub-efi package manually yourself later.
[03:32] <zivester> Jordan_U, ok well its a 13.04 install on a rMBP... I installed refind and xubuntu without a bootloader... if you were doing it would you have just installed it with the bootloader?
[03:32] <zivester> I'm not sure whether it booted it UEFI or not
[03:32] <Jordan_U> zivester: Yes.
[03:34] <trakowski77> trying to use irc on 13.04, with accounts...
[03:34] <trakowski77> Not sure how to do it
[03:34] <zivester> Jordan_U, just booted from my USB key again... it shows two EFI boot options... both seem to load the same xubuntu live image... so if i installed this again it will install correctly?  how will the OSX /EFI/ directory know about the ubuntu install?
[03:35] <joaquinPlanet> hi, can u read me? I don't know if I set this right
[03:36] <Jordan_U> joaquinPlanet: No, we can't see you.
[03:36] <joaquinPlanet> haha, thanks
[03:36] <trakowski77> can someone help me connecting to IRC using empathy on 13.04 ? I'm trying to use the Online Account thing but no luck
[03:37] <Jordan_U> zivester: Install Ubuntu normally but keep refind. You will get an refind menu at boot which will allow you to choose between loading OSX and loading grub, and if you load grub it will work as normal.
[03:37] <trakowski77> (i'm currently connected using Pidgin)
[03:38] <trakowski77> also, does anyone know if it is possible to connect to Lync using empathy ?
[03:39] <zivester> Jordan_U, so in that case, I don't need to manually create the /EFI/ubuntu directory with the initrd or vmlinuz files? I'll have to check that out
[03:39] <Jordan_U> zivester: Correct.
[03:39] <zivester> last thing I want to do is mess up my system so I can't get into OSX
[03:41] <bambam> Hi, is anyone else having issues with flash on 13.04. I'd like to get GPU rendering/decoding working on flash without having the adobe flash plugin crash 50% of the time at random (I'm having trouble re-creating the issue)
[03:41] <bambam> I'm using NVIDIA drivers with VDPAU
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> trakowski77: http://askubuntu.com/questions/173417/chatting-with-empathy
[03:42] <truexfan81> when i kernel drops to a initramfs prompt, does it leave a log somewhere to tell why?
[03:42] <cthulhusaurus> hi
[03:42] <trakowski77> lotuspsychje: thanks, checking it out
[03:43] <bambam> I created a file called mms.cfg in /etc/adobe and added the following "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 OverrideGPUValidation=1" and while that seemed to be able to get me smooth HD video playback, I have the adobe flash plugin crash at random
[03:43] <bambam> Has anyone else experienced this?
[03:43] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: No, it can't because the root filesystem hasn't been mounted yet (so there is nowhere to write a log to).
[03:43] <truexfan81> ouch
[03:43] <bambam> I still have*
[03:43] <truexfan81> Jordan_U: so no way to figure out what is broken in the custom kernel then?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> bambam: did you upgrade or clean install?
[03:43] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Clean install
[03:44] <bambam> I've had this issue with Ubuntu since as far as I've had this GPU (3 years)
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> bambam: thats weird indeed, did you check additional drivers if grafix driver changed?
[03:44] <bambam> lousygarua: Yes, I'm using nvidia-current
[03:44] <bambam> tested
[03:44] <truexfan81> bambam: that is normal for flash to crash with hw acceleration turned on, i did figure out a work around for it tho
[03:44] <cthulhusaurus> irssi
[03:45] <bambam> truexfan81: Really? I'd like to hear it
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> bambam: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:45] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Yes, I did
[03:45] <truexfan81> bambam: if you pay attention it give the bottom control bar just b4 the vid starts
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> bambam: other browsers with same issue?
[03:46] <truexfan81> bambam: click the fullscreen button b4 the video starts and it will come up and play, once its playing you can exit fullscreen if you wish
[03:46] <bambam> lotuspsychje: All browsers using the flash installed from the package "flashplugin-installer"
[03:46] <bambam> which is what ubuntu-restricted-extras provides, IIRC
[03:47] <bambam> Chrome's pepper flash works without crashing but I'm not able to get GPU video decoding working
[03:47] <bambam> so HD playback has a lot of frame drops
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> bambam: i know but does it crash same way for another browser
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:47] <truexfan81> bambam: the pepper flash does not use the mms.cfg, thats why
[03:47] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I should try to reproduce it
[03:47] <truexfan81> use what i told you, i promise it works
[03:48] <bambam> truexfan81: Yeah, is there any way I can get HWVideoDecoding work with pepper?
[03:48] <trakowski77> lotuspsychje: I think this tutorial refers to 12.10. On 13.04 things appear to be much different
[03:48] <truexfan81> bambam: if so i have never found it
[03:48] <bambam> truexfan81: Actually I think I've done exactly what you describe on accident
[03:48] <bambam> Dirty fix
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> bambam: maybe its early bug in nvidia-current?
[03:48] <truexfan81> yeah try it again, see does it not work
[03:48] <babel_> Hi. I just setup 13.04, and the wired connection takes extremely long to establish. but once connected, it's fast
[03:49] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I'm willing to bet it's more likely flash
[03:49] <bambam> It's unsupported now afterall, right?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !info flashplugin-installer
[03:50] <truexfan81> lotuspsychje: flash with hw acceleration crashes on linux no matter what hw or driver, a simple google search proves that
[03:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. HW acellreation was working for me last night i noticed.. at least the check box was enabled
[03:51] <truexfan81> Dr_willis: best way to check it is with youtube
[03:51] <bambam> truexfan81: You mean full HW acceleration
[03:51] <truexfan81> put a vid fullscreen, then right-click and click show video info, it will tell you
[03:51] <Dr_willis> I just recall seeing a flash video, in the properties. the 'enable hardware acceleration' was checked.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> I recall that i had actually turned that off some months ago.. to get rid of  the SMURF Syndrome. ;)
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:52] <bambam> truexfan81: what flash do you have installed?
[03:52] <bambam> what package
[03:52] <truexfan81> bambam: i have a gtx650 with the latest nvidia beta driver
[03:52] <truexfan81> i have flash 11.2
[03:53] <truexfan81> it crashes just as you described, unless i do what i told you which is to fullscreen it b4 the vid starts playing
[03:53] <ddsss> suspend doesn't work in 13.04 - why?
[03:53] <omegasir> I don't like unity
[03:53] <Dr_willis> omegasir,  so use somthing else.
[03:53] <truexfan81> bambam: one of the many things adobe did not fix before they abandoned linux
[03:54] <james-ubc> omegasir, does anybody actually like unity?
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Unity works fine for me.
[03:54] <james-ubc> it's the ugliest thing I've ever seen
[03:54] <sam113101> I like it
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Subjective opinions. ;)
[03:54] <Dr_willis> ive definatly seen Uglier.
[03:54] <james-ubc> no it's really not subjective
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Yes it is..
[03:54] <james-ubc> it's poor HCI
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> bambam: can you do this in terminal cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep sse2
[03:55] <scriptjunkie> anybody seen issues with wireless interference after 13.04 upgrade?
[03:55] <jcoreyelmore> Hi, does anybody feel like helping me figure out a problem with deluge?
[03:55] <james-ubc> it has gaudy usless gradients and blurrs
[03:55] <Dr_willis> HydroCloraicAcid? :)
[03:55] <james-ubc> that serve no real purpose
[03:55] <jcoreyelmore> Any time I add a torrent it gives me the error of permission denied
[03:55] <james-ubc> do not help conveyance or hint properly
[03:55] <scriptjunkie> just submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1174145 <- really painful to the rest of my family :-(
[03:55] <scriptjunkie> yeah that was me
[03:55] <james-ubc> that's objectively poor UI design
[03:55] <truexfan81> jcoreyelmore: try #deluge ;)
[03:55] <jcoreyelmore> i'm somewhat of a noob and don't want to mess things up changing permissions
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | scriptjunkie
[03:55] <bambam> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614750/
[03:56] <Dr_willis> james-ubc,  sounds like you are just spouting off buzzwords.. but its not really on topic.
[03:56] <bambam> truexfan81: That's what I've read too - may I ask how you have flash 11.2 installed?
[03:56] <bambam> What's the name of the package you use
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> bambam: does sse2 turn red?
[03:56] <scriptjunkie> lotuspsychje - what? is that a command I should run? or are you a bot?
[03:56] <truexfan81> bambam: my linux netbook is running debian wheezy, so the package name is likely different
[03:56] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Yes it does
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> scriptjunkie: its a help page for installing broadcom drivers
[03:57] <LargePrime> I have a user i added to www-data.  They cannot seem to edit files in /var/www.  Sorry for the noobish.  what did i do wrong?
[03:57] <scriptjunkie> ah
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> bambam: your machine should be able to run flash then
[03:57] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  did you log out/back in after adding them to the group?
[03:57] <truexfan81> bambam: but if you really want me to i can ssh in and search for the package name
[03:58] <LargePrime> Dr_willis: me?  or them?
[03:58] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Yeah, it can run it (software rendering and decoding) but if I want to play 720p video, I get way too many framedrops
[03:58] <Flannel> LargePrime: Did you modify permissions to enable group writing?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  if you change a users group the changes do not take affect untill the user logs back in. I think ive seen others have this issue
[03:58] <truexfan81> bambam: my search shows i   flashplugin-nonfree             - Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin
[03:58] <mar> what must I install to get this page to work? http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> bambam: did you try a 720p or higher on vlc, what does it do?
[03:58] <LargePrime> Flannel: nope.  how i do?
[03:58] <mar> i have JRE7 installed already
[03:59] <LargePrime> Flannel: sorry i retract that
[03:59] <Flannel> LargePrime: no worries.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> mar : its best to use the nvidia drivers from the repos. not the ones from the nvidia.com site
[03:59] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I have to use the OpenGL render and enable GPU decoding, then HD film is very smooth, zero frame drops.
[03:59] <LargePrime> Dr_willis: can i force a logout
[03:59] <scriptjunkie> lotuspsychje thanks - will be back if I don't kill my wireless driver
[03:59] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  i imagine you can.. but why?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> bambam: then it must be flash like you think
[04:00] <truexfan81> bambam: i dare you to try smplayer with vdpau output
[04:00] <bambam> truexfan81: Yep, I already have (but with mplayer)
[04:00] <LargePrime> Dr_willis:  cause it easier to force than ans and wait
[04:00] <truexfan81> bambam: yeah smplayer is just a gui for mplayer
[04:00] <sean-w> Why are the ubuntu repos unusable in ipv6?
[04:01] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I was able to get smooth HD flash playback once I installed the vdapau library and enable EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode and OverrideGPUValidation in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[04:01] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  you could just reboot the whole box if you want to go overboard.. ;)
[04:01] <trakowski77> anyone knows how to make empathy connect to sipe (Microsoft Lync) ? ... ubuntu 13.04...
[04:02] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure why I have to install  libvdpau1 since I know the nvidia binary drivers already come with an vdpau driver
[04:02] <cthulhus2urus> \networ
[04:02] <bambam> but that seemed to do the trick
[04:02] <mar> Dr_willis: ok. So then how do I do that. I notice 'additional-drivers' jockey thingy doesn't come with 13.04
[04:03] <bambam> Anyway, it is hit or miss, I have to do that trick truexfan81 talked about to not make flash crash
[04:03] <Dr_willis> mar its in there.. its under software sources -> addational drivers tab.
[04:03] <bambam> truexfan81: Actually it seems like flash also crashes whenever I try to seek video that hasn't been pre-loaded
[04:03] <bambam> Did you experience that too?
[04:03] <truexfan81> bambam: i haven't tried to seek one with that so no
[04:03] <bambam> I'll try to recreate this in another browser, like Opera
[04:04] <truexfan81> bambam: i mainly only use flashplayer for justin.tv
[04:05] <mar> Dr_willis, aha, just not installed
[04:05] <bambam> truexfan81: do you get frame drops when viewing HTML 5 hd video?
[04:05] <truexfan81> bambam: idk
[04:05] <bambam> there is no GPU acceleration IIRC?
[04:05]  * bambam is wondering when flash is going to die
[04:05] <truexfan81> i'm not very familiar with html5, so i can't say much about it
[04:09] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I wish I could see what those adobe flash crash reports are saying
[04:09] <bambam> There doesn't seem to be a way to see what they dump
[04:09] <bambam> only "send report"
[04:11] <Dr_willis> bambam,  sadly i even see Ubuntu Blog sites still using Flash for their videos  ;(
[04:15] <LargePrime> thanks Dr_willis  Flannel .  the combo worked
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> bambam: maybe try a tail -f on /var/log/syslog and fool around with flash a bit
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> bambam: or star firefox from terminal and see what msges you get
[04:17] <batmite> Hi, is there a channel for general IRC questions/info?
[04:17] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I think like truexfan81 said, it seems like a bug Adobe refused to fix right before it officially dropped support for Linux
[04:17] <Dr_willis> batmite,  #irc or #freenode or one for your specific client
[04:17] <batmite> Dr_willis thanks
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> bambam: i had same issues like you on older systems using older grafix cards with flash
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> bambam: all new systems i installed ubuntu with never gave me any troubles anymore
[04:18] <bambam> Dr_willis: :/ well, if they're going to post their HTML 5 videos in HD, I probably won't be able to stream them smoothly within my browser anyway :\
[04:19] <truexfan81> lotuspsychje: define old, i have that crashing issue with my nvidia gtx650
[04:19] <bambam> lotuspsychje: HD video too?
[04:19] <bambam> lotuspsychje: The card isn't very old, it
[04:19] <bambam> 's an NVIDIA GT 610
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> bambam: it had no hd no
[04:20] <bambam> yeah, that seems to be the difference
[04:20] <bambam> I can comfortably view 360p flash videos without HW acceleration  and get no frame drops
[04:21] <truexfan81> bambam: i have a dualcore 2.9with 4GB ram, i can watch 1080p flash with or without hw acceleration, with no frame drops
[04:21] <bambam> truexfan81: I have a single core, so I'm forced to use hw acceleration
[04:21] <truexfan81> i just like the hw acceleration because it frees up my cpu for other things
[04:21] <Dr_willis> i tend to just use the various flash-downloader extensions. ;)
[04:21] <bambam> same
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> bambam: what does chrome do on 1080p youtubes on your system?
[04:22] <bambam> Dr_willis: Same here, it can get cumbersome, I just want to stream video sometimes
[04:22] <Dr_willis> bambam,  there used to be a flash-replacer extension that would play flash videos in vlc or mplayer embeded in the browser. or poped out..
[04:22] <bambam> I have been looking for that
[04:23] <bambam> it seems like it's been discontinued or something
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[04:23] <Dr_willis> yep. it still worked last i used it. but you got to get it from the plugins site. not the firefox site
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> but there's a plugin for firefox 'open with anything' or something
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> then open smplayer
[04:23] <biggenius> Hello
[04:24] <UbunWinTosh> I'm unable to adjust brightness for my Ubuntu OS. Does anyone know why that is? I tried screendimmer but it didn't work. I suspect it may have to do with the proprietary video driver.
[04:24] <biggenius> Fn + f5
[04:24] <biggenius> Try that
[04:24] <UbunWinTosh> biggenius: I tried that along with the settings in the Brightness and lock app. Neither worked.
[04:24] <biggenius> Guys anyone knows how to join django irc channel on freenode?
[04:25] <biggenius> hmm strange
[04:25] <biggenius> my installation doesn't remember brightness settings
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> biggenius, /j "channel"
[04:26] <biggenius> tried that bro
[04:26] <biggenius> it says "you must be identified with service"
[04:26] <biggenius> I don't know, how it works, already registered
[04:26] <UbunWinTosh> I also tried joining #Django but that room does not load.
[04:26] <UbunWinTosh> other rooms do load for me.
[04:26] <truexfan81> biggenius: /msg nickserv help identify
[04:26] <biggenius> biggenius: /msg nickserv help identify
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Many channels require you to be Identified. Your chat client proberly gave some message about that
[04:27] <biggenius> ok
[04:27] <biggenius> thanks bro it worked!!!
[04:27] <UbunWinTosh> As soon as I joined #Ubuntu for my first time, I was banned and had to re-enter. I think it's because I had a username similar to someone else and didn't identify, so I was banned.
[04:28] <bambam> Dr_willis: http://www.webgapps.org/addons/flashvideoreplacer
[04:28] <bambam> :/
[04:28] <Dr_willis> bambam,  if its open sourced.. you could revive it! ;)
[04:28] <biggenius> ok
[04:30] <mar> Dr_willis, I installed additional drivers but it doesn't show up in my classic menu indicator or in unity launcher. There's one comment at the bottom of the entry in Software Centre and it says 'why you no werk for 13.04?'
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> bambam: https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/open-with/ then install that smplayer
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> bambam: maybe #firefox knows any new stuff?
[04:31] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I should ask, yeah
[04:31] <mar> Dr_willis, search USC for nvidia gives 3 drivers. Should I install one of these?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> mar i always just install nvidia-current
[04:32] <Dr_willis> but i got an older nvidia card.  a 320gtx i think.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: is there a command to know wich driver 13.04 would install by setup default?
[04:33] <alumno> a
[04:34] <Dr_willis> never really noticed lotuspsychje ...  all my pcs use the same drivers :)
[04:34] <mar> Dr_willis, sounds reasonable. I've messed up in the past installing the latest and didn't know how to reset X configuration
[04:34] <truexfan81> lotuspsychje: by default do you mean that comes with a new 13.04 install? that would be nouveau
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> truexfan81: but maybe there are left-overs that would corrupt on upgrade?
[04:36] <truexfan81> not sure what you mean by an upgrade do you mean upgrading from a previous ubuntu (bad idea) or a previous proprietary driver install?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> bbl sorry
[04:41] <UbunWinTosh> What's the easiest way to move a file from Desktop to /etc/api? It's requiring root privileges in order to do that.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> sudo cp file /path/to/file
[04:42] <jrib> UbunWinTosh: what's /etc/api for?  What's this file for?
[04:42] <UbunWinTosh> jrib: for adjusting brightness
[04:42] <Dr_willis> you need sudo rights to mess with the system directories  of course. ;)
[04:42] <UbunWinTosh> it's actually going into /etc/api/events
[04:43] <UbunWinTosh> jrib: sorry, I meant acpi
[04:45] <UbunWinTosh> Nevermind, I found out. sudo cp /source/files /destination/folder :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> sudo cp file /path/to/file       like i said... ;)
[04:47] <UbunWinTosh> oh sorry, missed that Dr_willis. I found it by Googling. :D
[04:47] <Tumlee> Is it just me, or is there no longer a preferences menu in Nautilus as of 13.04?
[04:49] <benno123>  how do i use my own PGP signature with mail.ru ?
[04:50] <bambam> What would cause my /tmp/ folder to fill up so quickly on a fresh install? I did not download anything except stream a few videos
[04:50] <bambam> It filled up to 50 GB O_O
[04:50] <thomas____> Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nautilus.
[04:50] <thomas____> Then restart your session.
[04:50] <thomas____> For some reason, Nautilus is not completely updated when you install the Elementary version. This will complete the upgrading process and Preferences and Menu will be there again the next time you start Nautilus.
[04:51] <Tumlee> Restart my nautilus session, or my gnome session?
[04:51] <thomas____> copied this from a user question on ubuntu help pages
[04:51] <thomas____> that was the answer, I meant to add!
[04:52] <thomas____> nautilus session I assume
[04:53] <Tumlee> I just did did sudo apt-get install nautilus, it was already installed (I've actually reinstalled it from when I removed it earlier anyway)
[04:53] <thomas____> but it wouldn't hurt to try one and then the other
[04:53] <Tumlee> doing killall nautilus and reopening nautilus did nothing
[04:53] <UbunWinTosh> just finished this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088190&s=5b63fff9c23a2a229aa15a06ca453f1d&p=12373220#post12373220 and brightness still does not work! :(
[04:53] <Tumlee> Furthermore, any view settings I change (such as hiding the side bar) are completely forgotten the next time I open nautilus
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Tumlee,  you havent ran nautilus as root  in the past have you?
[04:54] <Tumlee> I've done a gksudo nautilus, if that's what you mean
[04:55] <thomas____> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1110025     this is a link to other suggestions about your problem Tumlee
[04:56] <RustyShackleford> what does ubuntu plan to do for names pretty soon
[04:56] <zilla_> HI
[04:56] <Tumlee> This is not the same bug I have experienced
[04:57] <RustyShackleford> there are some trick letters coming up
[04:57] <Tumlee> I am missing all menus no matter if I run as user or root
[04:57] <RustyShackleford> Z___ Z___
[04:57] <zilla_> how can i install ubuntu to usb external drive from windows
[04:57] <Tumlee> Judging by this screenshot http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/new-nautilus-in-ubuntu.jpg It looks like it's not even supposed to be there
[04:57] <RustyShackleford> zilla_, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:57] <Jordan_U> zilla_: A real installation (Not just a liveUSB)?
[04:58] <zilla_> yes
[04:58] <RustyShackleford> oh nevermind then
[04:58] <Jordan_U> zilla_: You basically can't. Why do you want to do it "from Windows"?
[04:58] <zilla_> because when i try rom linux
[04:59] <zilla_> it says BUG: cannot blah blah kernel
[04:59] <Jordan_U> zilla_: What is the exact error message and when do you see it?
[04:59] <Paul_MyBB1> Hey, is anyone else having an issue where after you close an application the icon remains pinned to the launcher even if you didn't pin it?
[04:59] <zilla_> Jordan_U:  too tired to look it over again
[04:59] <Paul_MyBB1> (raring)
[04:59] <zilla_> just trying to get it wo work
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Tumlee,  ive seen cases where running nautilus as root writes some of the config files to the users home. only owned by root.. thus the user cant change them
[05:00] <Jordan_U> zilla_: When did you see the error?
[05:00] <zilla_> at boot
[05:00] <zilla_> when it normallyu shows ubuntu loading
[05:00] <zilla_> the try / install options
[05:00] <zilla_> cant get to graphics
[05:00] <zilla_> awful
[05:01] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:01] <Tumlee> Sorry, I was disconnected.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Tumlee,  ive seen cases where running nautilus as root writes some of the config files to the users home. only owned by root.. thus the user cant change them. Id check your Home directroy for stuff owned by root
[05:01] <Jordan_U> zilla_: Pretty much any problem you have booting the LiveDVD/USB you'll also have trying to boot the installed system (until you fix it of course).
[05:03] <Tumlee> Oh wow... I think these features may have been genuinely removed. I guess it's time to get an older version of nautilus
[05:04] <Cyris> technically i can put virtualbox in an external HD and run it from that, correct?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Tumlee: Did you check for menus at the top of the screen (which are hidden until you move the mouse there)?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> itss not going to be trivial to downgrade nautilus..
[05:06] <Tumlee> Erm... I should have probably mentioned that I'm running Ubuntu GNOME so these settings don't actually appear there
[05:06] <Tumlee> Or wait, let me check if they do if I unhide the top bar
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Cyris: Run what from the external HD?
[05:07] <Tumlee> I am the owner of both of the files in ~/.config/nautilus though
[05:07] <jmadero> anyone here upgrade to 13.04 and using gnome shell experiencing some crappy repercussions?
[05:07] <Cyris> Jordan_U: correct
[05:07] <Dr_willis> jmadero,  its working here fine last time i tried it.
[05:07] <thomas____> Tumlee what does the Nautilus look like if you maximize it?...surely then you see the menus across the top!
[05:08] <jmadero> Dr_willis: my buddy just upgraded and his system is completely borked:-/
[05:08] <jmadero> trying to help him out, I don't use Ubuntu so came here for guidance
[05:08] <Tumlee> Derp, I'm just dumb. Yup. The menus haven't been removed, just moved.
[05:08] <Cyris> Jordan_U:  oh way wrong reply... run ubuntu or mac
[05:08] <biggenius> ok
[05:08] <Dr_willis> have him make a new user. see if it works for the newly made user
[05:09] <jmadero> Dr_willis: gave him that advice already, that was even worse, just went to a blue screen, never loaded
[05:09] <Tumlee> I didn't know they were there because I installed an extension to hide the top bar before I ever even ran nautilus
[05:09] <jmadero> Dr_willis: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/196272-upgrading-13-04-borked-gnome-cairo-dock-session.html#post925840
[05:09] <jmadero> describes the issues
[05:10] <benno123> need help for pgp signature?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Cyris: Yes, you can keep the Ubuntu Virtual Disk on an external drive and boot the Ubuntu VM from there.
[05:15] <Tumlee> Alright, one final question then: Is there any way to make nautilus open with the sidebar hidden? I never use it and it only takes up space for me.
[05:15] <savio> benno123 !details
[05:16] <benno123> savio:which details?
[05:17] <savio> benno123 u said u need help
[05:17] <betrayd>  !details | benno123
[05:18] <benno123> savio:yeah i said.i need help for pgp signature!!
[05:18] <DanaG> Say, I'm having trouble writing an upstart rule/job/scriot (whatever you call it)... if I try to start it, the 'start' command hangs forever, and nothing happens.  There isn't even a logged failure in syslog, and the log with the upstart job's name doesn't exist.
[05:18] <benno123> betrayd:need help for pgp signature?
[05:18] <benno123> savio:i have to add my own pgp signature for mail.ru? does possible?
[05:19] <nobit2> I'm trying to install oracle java on my ubuntu 13.04 server however it seems I don't have apt-add-repository or add-apt-repository command to add the repository suggested by the website.
[05:19] <mar> so I installed current nVidia drivers. Black is pitch black -  that's good. But windows don't have borders and unity taskbar doesn't show. Are there any settings I can play with, or is my only option to revert?
[05:19] <jmadero> so this is what my buddy is seeing for gnome cairo dock session on 13.04 https://plus.google.com/photos/114741461989471917798/albums/5739082733911197745/5872127792435518834?banner=pwa
[05:19] <jmadero> clearly messed up
[05:20] <nobit2> I also read that I had to install python-software-properties to get the command but it still didn't work
[05:22] <benno123> savio:got something for me?
[05:22] <Mayank> Hi, I have two server running Ubuntu, A that is accessible only within the institution. I have another server B in the same institution that can be accessed from outside and it can access the server A as well. Can  I run some service so that all HTTP traffic of A can be rendered outside using server B?
[05:22] <nobit2> nm finally found an answer, it is in software-properties-common
[05:23] <savio> benno123 wait
[05:23] <benno123> savio:ok!!
[05:24] <Jordan_U> Mayank: You can create an ssh tunnel, among other proxy options.
[05:24] <Mayank> Jordan_U: I want to access A from the web browser? Will it be possible?
[05:25] <b4dave_> Is anyone here using Ubuntu 13.04 with Gnome 3.8?
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Mayank: Yes, but I think you should be very careful with this, as there is probably a good reason why your institution has made this server only accesible internally.
[05:26] <Tumlee> b4dave_: It depends. What version does Ubuntu GNOME come with?
[05:27] <Mayank> Jordan_U: Nah, the only reason is they do not have a public IP for this server. So by creating a SSH tunnel from B to A all html/php files of A can be rendered on the web browser through B?
[05:27] <Tumlee> Er, nevermind. I have gnome 3.6
[05:29] <savio> benno123 try gnupgp
[05:31] <b4dave_> Tumlee I am using 3.8 and was wondering about stability issues. are you seeing any with 3.6?
[05:31] <benno123> savio:do i can set up this with my mail.ru account?
[05:32] <Tumlee> I am having no stability issues. I've had a few annoyances with many themes no longer being compatible with GNOME, but that's about it.
[05:32] <Tumlee> It's working smoothly and without any crashes or quirks
[05:35] <benno123> savio:it's not gnupgp it's gnuPG!!
[05:35] <quatamo> i like the new ubuntu
[05:35] <benno123> so do i!!!
[05:35] <quatamo> lol it's gnu privacy guard not gnu pretty good privacy
[05:36] <benno123> yeah!!!
[05:36] <benno123> someone suggested!!
[05:37] <benno123> quatamo:do you know anything about it?
[05:37] <benno123> The GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) is a free replacement for PGP. on GNU website!!
[05:38] <quatamo> benno123: Well, I know they're both asymmetric, i know how to generate keys, etc. So yeah I guess
[05:38] <benno123> quatamo:if you don't mind,can you share it, please!!
[05:39] <quatamo> gpg --gen-key then probably you want the default, DSA and ElGamal
[05:40] <quatamo> no smaller than 768 bits
[05:40] <b4dave_> Tumlee thank you. I am having a hell of a time with Samba. I don't know if its a problem with the new gnome release or Samba.
[05:40] <benno123> quatamo:actually i have to integrate it with my mail.ru email account.so does it possible?
[05:41] <Tumlee> Hehe, I have never used Samba before so I wouldn't be able to tell you.
[05:41] <quatamo> benno123: maybe...
[05:42] <benno123> quatamo:do you know how to???
[05:42] <daler> hi people, just yesterday installed ubuntu 13.03, and im totally new to nix at all
[05:42] <daler> how to install gnome 3.8 on ubuntu?
[05:44] <quatamo> benno123: I would instead encrypt messages on a seperate client then copy-paste etc. Even gmail doesn't have a nice integration... well, if you use Thunderbird it can do it for you
[05:44] <b4dave_> Tumlee its okay. :-)
[05:44] <quatamo> I mean thunderbird + enigmail
[05:45] <b4dave_> daler I just down loaded the gnomebuntu release
[05:46] <benno123> quatamo:ok,i should definitely consider it!!
[05:46] <daler> yeah b4dave, as i am new i didnt know that there is a relase already with gnome.. i just dont want to go all the way again
[05:46] <daler> anyway, i found an article, and doing something lets see
[05:47] <Tumlee> b4dave_: AFAIK Ubuntu GNOME only has version 3.6 anyway
[05:47] <silverex> Hey guys, what graphics card would you recommend for Ubuntu 13.04?
[05:47] <silverex> I need to get a new one
[05:48] <Tumlee> I recommend compatibility with VESA ;)
[05:48] <silverex> As I currently have an AMD HD4K card which doesn't have any compatible drivers for 13.04
[05:49] <daler> is that fine to do android development under linux? anyone have some experience?
[05:50] <daler> as with my windows i play a lot and want to turn to nix, as no game here)
[05:50] <Tumlee> daler: I've done a few simple Android apps under Linux, so I know it works. However, if you're planning on using AndEngine let me tell you, you're probably not going to do it.
[05:51] <daler> bad.. so what do you do in nix then?
[05:51] <Tumlee> What do you mean by that?
[05:51] <daler> bad question ) sorry.. how comes it doesnt work
[05:52] <daler> android is open source, androis open source
[05:52] <daler> unix*
[05:52] <Tumlee> I have no idea. All I can tell you is that trying to install AndEngine and get it to work properly doesn't work under Linux but I got it to work under Windows.
[05:52] <Tumlee> You can still do Android development, just not that one specific library
[05:52] <animosys1> hi
[05:53] <daler> corona? did you try it?
[05:53] <Tumlee> Unless they've fixed it since then, I don't know.
[05:53] <Tumlee> What on earth is corona?
[05:53] <daler> not a beer for sure)) let me give u link
[05:53] <daler> www.coronalabs.com/products/corona-sdk
[05:54] <Tumlee> Seems like a pretty neat SDK
[05:54] <daler> a little bit expensive if want to use java libraries
[05:54] <b4dave_> silverex I am using a old gforce 8400 its works great! and it uses open drivers and best of all its under 35.00$
[05:54] <daler> but very easy for game dev
[05:54] <Tumlee> Yeah, I've never tried it. All I can tell you is that if you're used to developing games for Android under Eclipse, you'll feel right at home.
[05:54] <silverex> b4dave_: How well does it run 3D applications?
[05:56] <daler> does anyone had experince of installing sip server in *nix?
[05:57] <liujingwei> ..
[05:58] <sliswsoj> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[05:58] <sliswsoj> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[05:58] <sliswsoj> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[05:58] <sliswsoj> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[05:58] <FloodBot1> sliswsoj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <lovethecode> interesting how irc channels are protected.
[06:00] <Tumlee> Hehe, when you have a channel this popular, you HAVE to protect it.
[06:01] <friendoflinux> I recently installed Awesome WM on my Ubuntu Unity install. But when I boot into Awesome everything looks ugly (i.e. firefox). So I am wondering is it because of the Awesome theme or because of the GTK theme? Which should I look into?
[06:01] <somsip> friendoflinux: define 'ugly' AwesomeWM has no decoration at all as standard so it is very plain compared to pretty WMs
[06:02] <histo> friendoflinux: gtk theme
[06:03] <friendoflinux> somsip: so what i mean Firefox and Nautilus look very stale in Awesome WM and I was wondering what theme is causing that, GTK or will getting an awesome wm theme will fix the issue
[06:03] <MrDyne> Can you limit port access to domain subdomains? I want to limit the Minecraft server so that it can only be connected to through the subdomain. And the teamspeak server through another subdomain. Block direct IP requests.
[06:03] <friendoflinux> histo: so if i just change the WM theme Nautilus and Firefox will still look the same as they do now?
[06:03] <madprops> friendoflinux, probably gtk
[06:03] <madprops> friendoflinux, try lxappearance
[06:04] <somsip> friendoflinux: histo is recommending a gtk theme. as is madprops. I don't remember installing any gtk theme, but there you go
[06:04] <friendoflinux> madprops: isn't that the program that changes the theme in lxde?
[06:04] <histo> friendoflinux: yes but ti works well in other wm's
[06:05] <somsip> friendoflinux: I beg your pardon - I appear to have Raleigh installed
[06:06] <friendoflinux> histo, can you recommend me a good site for gtk themes?
[06:06] <histo> friendoflinux: gnome-look.org
[06:06] <friendoflinux> histo: Oh, I thought that was just for gnome, silly me :)
[06:07] <friendoflinux> hiso: do you happen to know if I change the theme for the WM if Nautilus and Firefox will still look the same as they do now?
[06:07] <histo> friendoflinux: Not if the theme is different
[06:07] <friendoflinux> histo: what do you mean by that?
[06:07] <histo> friendoflinux: the arch linux wiki may have some usefull information for you.
[06:08] <friendoflinux> histo: this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome
[06:08] <histo> friendoflinux: yes
[06:08] <friendoflinux> histo: awesome! thanks a lot mate!
[06:11] <histo> friendoflinux: http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Customizing_GTK_Apps  and this
[06:11] <btral> hi. i have a folder that contain multi folders too. how can i convert a dir to dir.tar.gz with gzip command?
[06:11] <theadmin> btral: You can't tar with gzip
[06:11] <theadmin> brad: tar czf dir.tar.gz dir
[06:12] <theadmin> Err
[06:12] <theadmin> btral: ^
[06:12] <theadmin> brad: Sorry, tab fail
[06:13] <btral> theadmin: oh. how ca i do it? i dont hav tar command
[06:13] <btral> theadmin: i want to convert dir to dir.tar.gz or dir.gz
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: Err, tar is part of the base Ubuntu installation so you should have that command.
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: If not, apt-get install tar
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: You can't gzip a directory though, GZip can only compress one file
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: (like a TAR archive ;))
[06:15] <btral> theadmin: ok. tnx
[06:16] <btral> theadmin: and how extract it to special folder?
[06:16] <theadmin> btral: tar xf something.tar.gz -C folder
[06:16] <theadmin> (note the uppercase C)
[06:17] <Blue11> i can;t seem to set a default browser in xubuntu / thunderbir
[06:17] <theadmin> Blue11: Open the settings thingy and there's "Default applications" in there, just use that
[06:17] <btral> theadmin: tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[06:17] <btral> tar: Skipping to next header
[06:17] <btral> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:18] <theadmin> btral: Hm, either this is a very old Ubuntu install or a strange version of tar, try tar xzf something.tar.gz then
[06:18] <Blue11> theadmin: i cant find the default applicatons settings in xubuntu
[06:18] <Blue11> theadmin: otherwise it would be easy
[06:18] <theadmin> Blue11: Applications menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager (or something) -> Default applications
[06:19] <theadmin> I can't remember what they called the control centre thing in Xfce
[06:19] <Blue11> theadmin: I am in xubuntu
[06:19] <friendoflinux> histo: Thanks again btw! one thing, how do I know if a program uses GTK or not? is it possible to find out?
[06:19] <theadmin> Blue11: Right, and Xubuntu uses Xfce as the desktop
[06:19] <Blue11> yes I am new to that.
[06:20] <theadmin> friendoflinux: Sure, ldd /path/to/app | grep gtk
[06:20] <histo> friendoflinux: possibly in the man pages for that application. Or look at it's dependencies
[06:20] <theadmin> (at least the most obvious way)
[06:20] <Blue11> i have applications/system tools/preferences/ and nothing else
[06:21] <Blue11> well no settings
[06:21] <friendoflinux> histo: So a program that is not using GTK should look the same whether im booting into unity or awesome wm regardless, correct? And the reason they look different now is because the GTK theme is different.
[06:21] <friendoflinux> theadmin: Thanks!
[06:22] <theadmin> Blue11: Run xfce4-settings in a terminal
[06:22] <histo> friendoflinux: The gtk theme selected is different yes. You need to read the awesome wiki
[06:22] <friendoflinux> histo: alright, thank you so so much man, much appreciated!
[06:23] <Blue11> theadmin: command not found
[06:23] <theadmin> Blue11: Err, are you sure you're on Xubuntu?...
[06:23] <Blue11> theadmin: yes
[06:23] <theadmin> Blue11: And are running the default desktop?
[06:24] <Blue11> theadmin: gnome-classic
[06:24] <theadmin> Blue11: Durr, well you should have said that right away -- it does things differently, run "gnome-control-center" instead
[06:24] <Blue11> theadmin: okay let me try that
[06:25] <Blue11> theadmin: yes, I have seen that before - no way to set default app.
[06:25] <theadmin> Blue11: Is under "Details", methinks
[06:25] <Blue11> okaya let me look
[06:26] <Blue11> there it is
[06:26] <Blue11> now let me test.
[06:27] <alexrecker> exit
[06:28] <termot> hi people
[06:28] <christopher> hello
[06:28] <termot> i have a none ubuntu problem
[06:29] <termot> where should i ask?
[06:29] <Blue11> theadmin: many thanks i will add that pkill-9.com
[06:29] <betrayd> termot: what distro
[06:30] <betrayd> termot: or is it windows
[06:30] <ccbn> I'm using 12.04 64 bit with a soundcard that uses the oxygen driver. When using any application with sound, the output will stop for a second and then continue, it happens randomly.
[06:30] <termot> betrayd: none. i want to install cloudsim on ubuntu
[06:30] <termot> imy problem is in registration
[06:30] <termot> it's odd but
[06:31] <theadmin> Woah, Remastersys is dead :/ Suddenly. This is sad
[06:31] <termot> in registration it doesn't incloud my country
[06:31] <termot> betrayd: in one step it catch phone number to call and say certification code
[06:32] <termot> betrayd: cause it doesn't incloud my country i can't give phone number
[06:32] <betrayd> termot: time to go to 'contact us' at the bottom of the page
[06:32] <betrayd> not us here, but them, there
[06:33] <betrayd> try also a different browser
[06:33] <termot> betrayd: it's amazone web service
[06:33] <betrayd> see if the have contacts page
[06:33] <betrayd> they*
[06:34] <termot> does amazon web service have irc?
[06:35] <betrayd> call their 800 number
[06:35] <termot> what is 800 number
[06:35] <btral> oh sorry. i have a zip file in windows. i uploaded it to linux. how extract it?
[06:35] <betrayd> termot: listen, go to 'contact us' page
[06:36] <betrayd> we will not fo it for you this is ubuntu support
[06:36] <termot> betrayd: do you know any irc room for that?
[06:36] <betrayd> contact us page will have that info
[06:38] <helmut_> hi
[06:38] <betrayd> hey helmut_
[06:45] <Liam-> has anyone here dealt with 6to4 tunneling with a tunnel broker?
[06:45] <Liam-> i'm trying to set up a he.net tunnelbroker, and i'm running under OpenVZ
[06:46] <Liam-> can't seem to get it to bind :s
[06:56] <NanChen> join #in-move "!Cr0wB4R"
[06:58] <kai> hi folks. I've installed 13.04 last weekend, and it seems like suddenly my thinkpad has problems with overheating that weren't present on the 10.04 install I had on it before
[07:01] <cheshair> Hi! After upgrading to 13.04 all my python venvs seem to be broken. When I start any python script within one of them I get this "ImportError: cannot import name MAXREPEAT" error. Any tips?
[07:02] <cheshair> I think that can be solved by recreating the venv, but that would be painful here and would consider it as my last option. Any other option for me?
[07:09] <Desarrolla> buenas aber me instalado ubuntu pero no lo tengo todo en español alquien me puede decir donde esta la traduccion
[07:09] <theadmin> !es | Desarrolla
[07:09] <Desarrolla> ok
[07:10] <kowa> i: Join to #xorg was synced in 8 secs
[07:10] <kowa> 09:57:20 < kowa> Hello, I have problem with ubuntu. on boot I get a message "running in low graphics" and then I end up in command line. I install Ubuntu 13.04 with "nomodeset" and I install all right drivers (in command line). I have tried many differnt "manuals" to install them properly, but still, I have never got to the actual graphic os.
[07:10] <kowa> I have macbook pro early 2011 (8.2) with ATI / Intel switchable gpu:s and I have high res (1680x1+1050) monitor
[07:10] <theadmin> kowa: Are you installing the 64-bit version?
[07:10] <kowa> 64 bit
[07:10] <kowa> some ofthe errors are "screens found but none are configured" and "fatal error: no screens found"
[07:11] <kowa> after driver installations I have done aticonfig etc, but when I do fglrxinfo it does not find any devices
[07:11] <theadmin> kowa: Hmmms. I think Ubuntu provides a separate image for macs
[07:11] <theadmin> kowa: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso - try this
[07:11] <ggherdov> Hi all, getting this while trying the upgrade 12.10 --> 13.04 http://bpaste.net/show/ma5h6BlmF5piP2Hyh7YN/ . what's happening ? (xpost to #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu)
[07:12] <kowa> hmm
[07:12] <kowa> thats new
[07:12] <kowa> with that mac in the end
[07:12] <kowa> you want to hear my whole "troubleshoot" ?
[07:13] <kowa> or should I just try that and if not work, then we'll see?
[07:13] <theadmin> kowa: I guess trying is the best option
[07:13] <kowa> yea
[07:13] <kowa> have been trying many thigs in these 4-5 days now :D
[07:13] <kowa> but I have not even seen that mac image
[07:14] <kowa> just the regular linux 64bit
[07:14] <kowa> *ubuntu
[07:14] <theadmin> kowa: It's hidden in a somewhat strange place, I can't find a direct link to it on Ubuntu's download page either
[07:15] <kowa> ahh
[07:15] <kowa> strange
[07:15] <kowa> if this works then I'm a happy camper
[07:20] <iliketocode> Hi all just wondering how to get the spell checker working in LibreOffice, this is in 13.04 but I have had this issues so many times over the years I have lost count
[07:21] <iliketocode> I Open Office there were two ways that I learned to fix it but they don't seem to apply anymore to the current version of LO
[07:21] <theadmin> iliketocode: Go to System Settings -> Language Support and install any languages necessary. If the language you want is already installed, then it may say something like "Language support incomplete". Install the missing packages.
[07:21] <battlehands> how to run an echo $XTRA_PARAMS on a build.sh file?
[07:22] <pratz> Hello guys
[07:22] <pratz> I followed this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-4
[07:23] <iliketocode> Thanks for the reply theadmin but it just sends me  the Libre Office web site to search for a language extension and there is none for my language
[07:23] <theadmin> iliketocode: No, System Settings in Ubuntu.
[07:24] <theadmin> iliketocode: And if there's none for your language then it likely won't be available in Ubuntu either, though
[07:24] <pratz> so, i removed LO-3 first and then tried to install LO-4, but now I am getting this error http://dpaste.org/jT4iM/
[07:24] <iliketocode> Oh, integrated supper cool
[07:24] <iliketocode> My language is English but Australian English
[07:25] <pratz> output of 'sudo apt-get install libreoffice'  - http://dpaste.org/YiXm8/
[07:26] <iliketocode> Ubuntu is talking to me "Language support is not installed completely" There you go
[07:26] <theadmin> iliketocode: Just set it to US English and add "mate" to the dictionary, then?
[07:26] <iliketocode> lol
[07:26] <MikeH> If during a do-release-upgrade the installer wants to reboot, what do I do after the reboot?
[07:26] <iliketocode> I actually don't use the word
[07:26] <pratz> Now i do not have LO-3 and even I can not install LO-4
[07:26] <iliketocode> I used to
[07:26] <MikeH> Do I need to run do-release-upgrade again? or is it done?
[07:27] <theadmin> MikeH: No, a release upgrade takes place all in one session, after the reboot it's done
[07:28] <MikeH> theadmin: Brilliant. I was just curious since the SSH MOTD still mentions a new release available.
[07:28] <MikeH> although /etc/lsb-release does show the new version
[07:28] <theadmin> MikeH: Oh, that's odd now
[07:28] <Yotis> Ubuntu 13.04 + Nvidia 8400GS = Problems; I did try the stock kernel with proprietary drivers (black screen stuck) or nouveau (cannot change screen resolution); Also the same drivers with kernel mainline builds, still no success; Any other suggestion for me? Thanks!
[07:28] <MikeH> I wondered if I was stuck half-way
[07:28] <theadmin> MikeH: Well, a broken upgrade can be fixed (in theory) with: sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <theadmin> MikeH: In case it is broken
[07:29] <theadmin> MikeH: I dunno though
[07:29] <iliketocode> Now my logic begs the question. Why doesn't the LibreOffice writing aid section link to the Ubuntu Language settings panel?
[07:29] <MikeH> I just tried a dist-upgrade, nothing to do, so I guess it's complete.y
[07:30] <pratz> any help on this guys http://dpaste.org/YiXm8/
[07:30] <theadmin> iliketocode: Well, Ubuntu tries not to modify software in weird ways if possible.
[07:30] <jsds> hello does 12.04 come with /usr/bin/expect installed by default?
[07:30] <theadmin> jsds: Nay, it's in the "expect" package.
[07:30] <iliketocode> I believe this would enable a more pleasurable user experience
[07:30] <jsds> theadmin: thank you
[07:31] <MikeH> Hmmm, that's one thing. The do-release-upgrade told me it disabled some third party repositories and told me how to re-enable them. I can't see anything in sources.list but don't remember what these repositories were either.
[07:32] <theadmin> MikeH: Check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list as well.
[07:33] <iliketocode> theadmin, you call directing someone from were they think they need to set the spell checker language of there word processor to the actual spot where they need to go in order to actually get there spell checker working?
[07:34] <jsmith433> Hi. How do I move the close/maximize/minimize buttons to the right of the window? Tutorials for past versions mention a metacity folder in gconf, but the folder is not there in 13.04.
[07:34] <iliketocode> Now leaving a user at the dead end of an unintuitive situation, that I find weird.
[07:35] <mar> hi. Can please tell me what Java I need to install to allow nVidia to check my card. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us
[07:35] <ankitkul1890> #mercurial
[07:36] <theadmin> jsmith433: It's likely not possible (or at least not a good idea) due to the way Unity works -- the top panel merges with the window titlebar upon maximisation, and on the right there is the tray
[07:36] <mar> or how can I find out the card serial without breaking open laptop?
[07:36] <theadmin> jsmith433: This would effectively render the buttons invisible
[07:38] <jsmith433> theadmin: Okay, thanks. I guess I'll be installing another DE, then.
[07:38] <theadmin> mar: Don't use the wobsite, use the additional drivers tool (System Settings -> Additional Drivers on 12.04, System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers on 12.10 and up)
[07:38] <theadmin> jsmith433: Xfce feels a lot like the "classic", pre-Unity Ubuntu.
[07:39] <mar> theadmin, 'additional drivers' doesn't work with 13.04 - see the only review
[07:39] <mar> theadmin, I just need to find out the card number so I know which driver to install myself
[07:39] <jsmith433> theadmin: I'll try that. Thanks.
[07:39] <theadmin> mar: That's because the one in the Software Center, Jockey, is no longer really used by Ubuntu, they merged it with another tool.
[07:39] <theadmin> mar: You can find out what card you have with, say, lspci | grep -i vga
[07:40] <mar> thadmin, thanks!
[07:41] <juanolalla>  /msg NickServ identify kvbtq+8K!jsd
[07:42] <theadmin> juanolalla: You're supposed to do it in the server window, change your password nao.
[07:42] <mar> theadmin, I'm just going to try nvidia-310 'cause current (304) doesn't work. Seem reasonable?
[07:43] <theadmin> mar: Well, don't blame me if it breaks. I dunno. I'm with the open-source drivers myself.
[07:43] <mar> theadmin, you suggest I just stick to the drivers that come with the 13.04 iso?
[07:43] <theadmin> mar: 'tis what I did
[07:43] <rndio> hello, is there a pdf viewer without horrid 400% zoom limitation in ubuntu?
[07:43] <theadmin> I mean, they work so why not
[07:43] <mar> damn
[07:44] <rndio> I think I just tried them all :/
[07:44] <mar> ok, i try 310 first though. Just in case it does want to work. No harm in trying.
[07:44] <theadmin> rndio: If anything, Adobe Reader has a Linux version, see their site.
[07:44] <theadmin> rndio: If that has the limitation, then... Then I dunno.
[07:45] <rndio> theadmin, well I would rather stay away from that proprietary mess. but looks like it's my only option. thanks.
[07:46] <theadmin> rndio: Well, I dunno. I never had to zoom in THAT much.
[07:47] <rndio> theadmin, schematics pdf. and hey pdf is a vector format - zooming can be unlimited by design.
[07:50] <theadmin> rndio: I suppose but... hamsters.
[07:53] <themill> rndio: xournal can zoom in to 1500%.
[07:54] <themill> rndio: and inkscape seems to have no limits on zoom at all. It may, however, eat your PDFs on import.
[07:54] <theadmin> lol
[07:55] <rndio> it's ok I'll feed it a copy :)
[07:55] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[07:55] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i ask the bot for links regarding lamp installation on ubuntu?
[07:55] <theadmin> !lamp > Wiz_KeeD
[07:55] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you theadmin !
[07:55] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, /msg ubottu termhere
[07:56] <Wiz_KeeD> with taskel adn manual configuration
[07:56] <Wiz_KeeD> i remember being an easier way
[07:57] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[07:59] <sunny_> hi people
[08:00] <sunny_> whats up
[08:03] <rusman> hi
[08:04] <rusman> i need edit mimi types associations
[08:04] <bazhang> rusman, MIME?
[08:04] <rusman> bazhang yes
[08:04] <rusman> bazhang where is mime types config file?
[08:05] <theadmin> rusman: /etc/mime.types
[08:05] <bazhang> rusman, for which application, what exactly are you trying to accomplish, please be clear
[08:06] <rusman> bazhang i installed Geany and it takes 100 association of all known doc-types
[08:07] <rusman> i want take it back
[08:08] <rusman> theadmin thanks for reply, but there is no applications in /etc/mime.types
[08:08] <theadmin> rusman: Remove the MimeType= line from /usr/share/applications/geany.desktop then, I suppose.
[08:08] <theadmin> rusman: Or modify it appropriately.
[08:09] <sunny_> @admin, i was doing this FTP in my laptop in networking lab in my school. and i ended up making a directory in home folder with permission root
[08:09] <sunny_> and then on reboot, it said "could not update .ICEauthority"
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> i've installed lamp on ubuntu 12.04 (vritual machine) with sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin and when i access the ip of the server it shows nothing
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[08:10] <rusman> theadmin thank you this is cool idea!!
[08:10] <sunny_> is the .ICEauthority affected by any root dir in the home folder?
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> error log has only [Mon Apr 29 09:57:51 2013] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> halp? :(
[08:11] <mregg964> Hi all. I'm new to Raring, coming from Lucid -- you can imagine the change for me. Getting my way around, but can anyone recommend a good Gmail notification system that integrates well with Unity?
[08:11] <theadmin> mregg964: System Settings -> Online Accounts -> GMail, methinks.
[08:11] <bazhang> mregg964, apt-cache search gmail
[08:11] <theadmin> mregg964: I can't remember if that was there, I removed half of what's responsible for providing those services
[08:11] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone pls?
[08:12] <bazhang> !helpme | Wiz_KeeD
[08:12] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, lots of network heads in #ubuntu-server
[08:13] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks cfhowlett
[08:13] <sunny_> @theadmin: I asked something about .ICEauthority
[08:13] <theadmin> sunny_: I know, what does that have to do with me? I don't know the answer, I don't answer. Ask the channel.
[08:13] <sunny_> ok ok calm down. I thought you're the admin and you might be knowing that
[08:14] <theadmin> sunny_: Heh, I can see why you'd think that :P But even the channel operators don't know everything (most of them are not Ubuntu developers). I, however, am not even an operator. No offense taken though.
[08:15] <sunny_> Oh I see. thanks anyways :)
[08:16] <cfhowlett> theadmin, well, you DO have that admin aura about you ...
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> cfhowlett, nobody is talking there :))
[08:17] <Shogoot> Good morning geeks! :D
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> strange how it does nothing, no errors nothing
[08:18] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: what is it actually showing? blank page?
[08:18] <liujingwei> #ubuntu-cn
[08:18] <Wiz_KeeD> somsip, doesn't even load
[08:18] <somsip> !zh | liujingwei
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i get the "oops, cannnot connect to page" thing
[08:19]  * sunny_ is a roasted one
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i even restarted the server
[08:19] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: is apache running? You are talking about connecting to http://localhost aren't you?
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> not localhost, it's a remote server on a vritual box
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> and trying to connect to it's ip on port 80 (the default one the browser uses)
[08:20] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: so you are running a browser on your client and the server on VM?
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> exactly
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i have a erp system in stalled that has a wsgi on port 8069
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> and that works fine from here
[08:20] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: ifconfig on server to make sure the IP is on your network. If it's not, restart the server using a different network type (bridged, NAT, etc)
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> how come the ip:8069 loads the web interface for the erp system?
[08:21] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: clearly there was a lag on the last exchange
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ah
[08:22] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: I don't know the lamp package, but maybe you should make sure a default site is setup. Maybe wget http://localhost on the server to make sure it's is actually serving
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> it works, it downloaded it
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> nice ideea, i'll keep it in mind :))
[08:23] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: so you got a 'It worked' HTMl page?
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> yes
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> i checked it with vim
[08:24] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm stuck on this crap
[08:25] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: might stil be worth checking /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to make sure it's not got a problem, like an expected ServerName or something unexpected
[08:25] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:26] <Wiz_KeeD> idk what to look for in there somsip
[08:26] <ThatOneRoadie> Hey Wiz, what do you need this server for?
[08:26] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: check that file and pastebin it if you want to share it
[08:26] <somsip> !pastebin | Wiz_KeeD
[08:26] <Wiz_KeeD> i know pastebin np
[08:27] <ThatOneRoadie> because if this is srtictly a LAMP server, I have a debian (Yeah, not ubuntu, bite me) vmdk you can use
[08:27] <ThatOneRoadie> really low overhead, too. i think the entire image is <200mb
[08:28] <ThatOneRoadie> we use these images on our servers. Load standard image, spin everything up, already ready to go. Save as host- or site-specific VM, re-spin when needed
[08:28] <ThatOneRoadie> 205MB
[08:28] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i copy all in vim somsip ? :))
[08:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ah nvm
[08:29] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: ggVG...oh ok
[08:29] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: ggVG"+p
[08:29] <theadmin> Err
[08:29] <ThatOneRoadie> I always though it was gg"*yG
[08:29] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/7736641
[08:29] <theadmin> ggVG"+y
[08:29] <somsip> theadmin: that's what I was aimin gat
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> also when i try to restart the server it says apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:30] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: no biggie - just haven'
[08:30] <somsip> 't got hostname setup
[08:30] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: That's a standard error, it just means your server's hostname doesn't match your domain name
[08:30] <ThatOneRoadie> However, check that your index.html file is in /var/www
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> what domain in this case? it's just a random ip address
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> yes it is ThatOneRoadie
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> that's why wget localhost worked
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the next step here?
[08:31] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: Not knowing lamp server package, I'm suggesting you check the default site config to make sure it's not weird
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> check for this error or...
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> it worked on other servers with no problem :(
[08:31] <ThatOneRoadie> Line 13, capitalize "allow from all" to "Allow from all"
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i've done this before
[08:31] <ThatOneRoadie> see if that does it
[08:32] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm, ok
[08:32] <ThatOneRoadie> then restart and try again
[08:32] <ThatOneRoadie> i think it's implicit allow from all though on *:80
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm that error is not comming up anymore but still doesn't work
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> Jesus this is so frustrating
[08:34] <ThatOneRoadie> little bugs are - you would not believe what a nightmare SAN Booting WITHOUT using a DHCP Server to boot is.
[08:34] <ThatOneRoadie> anything in /var/log/apache?
[08:34] <ThatOneRoadie> or wherever it logs
[08:34] <Wiz_KeeD> just what i pasted at the beginning
[08:35] <Wiz_KeeD> [Mon Apr 29 10:27:00 2013] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:35] <Wiz_KeeD> in error
[08:35] <ThatOneRoadie> ifconfig shows as being in your LAN?
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> the ip i'm accessing the server starts with 213. and eth0 of ifconfig is inet addr:172.*
[08:36] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: what http:.. are you actually using to connect?
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> the 213.
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> ip
[08:36] <ThatOneRoadie> yeah, your VM is probably in bridged mode
[08:36] <ThatOneRoadie> er
[08:36] <ThatOneRoadie> NAT mode
[08:37] <ThatOneRoadie> needs to be in bridged mode.
[08:37] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: which is something I emntioned a while back...
[08:37] <ThatOneRoadie> VMWare or VirtualBox?
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm not denying it!:D
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> VMWare ESXI
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> waiit wait waiit
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> oh jesus...
[08:38] <Amnuriak> Still need help on the my graphics driver issue .. I'm lost :-/ (see http://askubuntu.com/unanswered/tagged/?page=2&tab=votes for details)
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I think the firewall is blocking the port :\
[08:38] <ThatOneRoadie> oh, that's an easy check
[08:39] <ThatOneRoadie> [ sudo iptables -L ] and pastebin that sucker
[08:39] <sai_kumar> Hi All, i've installed Ubuntu 13.04 with Windows XP on dual boot. After installation from CD and restart, the Grub did not show up. Ubuntu directly got loaded. Is this a known issue ?
[08:39] <pratz> guys when I try to install any update i get this error http://dpaste.org/wqMI1/
[08:39] <Wiz_KeeD> that sucker haha :))
[08:39] <pratz> please help on this, I am using 12.04
[08:39] <ThatOneRoadie> lol wiz
[08:40] <Wiz_KeeD> i got very little information back
[08:40] <somsip> pratz: did you apt-get update first?
[08:40] <sai_kumar> i had to use Boot Repair tool to fix grub entries....
[08:40] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: edit /etc/resolv.conf in your favorite editor, add: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[08:40] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/7736678
[08:41] <pratz> somsip: yes, I am not getting any error when doing 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:41] <ThatOneRoadie> wait, ubuntu uses ufw, not iptables. I'm a dumbarse XD
[08:42] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: [ sudo ufw status verbose
[08:42] <ThatOneRoadie>  [
[08:42] <somsip> pratz: this might help http://www.ubuntulinuxhelp.com/quick-fix-for-the-size-mismatch-when-updating-ubuntu-linux/
[08:42] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, Did Boot Repair resolve the issue or is there still an issue?
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ThatOneRoadie, i think the mistery is solved
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> the admin just told me only 4 ports are open
[08:42] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ftp ssh my wsgi one and something else
[08:43] <sai_kumar> soulflare3 : it did resolve the issue.
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> Tell him open 80 XD
[08:43] <pratz> ThatOneRoadie: same error output after added 'nameserver 8.8.8..8' in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> There goes 10-15 minutes of our lives we will never get back :(
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> or do a [ sudo ufw allow 80 ]
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> what does that do?
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> opens 80 on the firewall
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> 80 being http
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> it's blocked from an outer layer i think
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> not on the os
[08:44] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: 8.8.8.8 right?
[08:44] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, If it ever happens again, try that tool. I have used it many times in the past and it's helped out tremendously (espeically when you update Windows or Ubuntu and the other doesn't show up)
[08:44] <somsip> pratz: you put '8..8' instead of '8.8' if you want to go with that fix
[08:44] <pratz> ThatOneRoadie: yes, that google dns , correct
[08:44] <pratz> somsip: that was just a typo
[08:44] <ThatOneRoadie> as long as you put 8.8.8.8 and not 8.8.8..8 :)
[08:44] <soulflare3> lol
[08:44] <juniour> hi ubuntu xx.xx
[08:45] <somsip> pratz: try apt-get clean && apt-get update
[08:45] <soulflare3> hi juniour
[08:45] <nitin__> hii
[08:46] <sai_kumar> soulflare3 : i never had issues with older versions. This is first time, just wondering if this is a known issue for 13.04
[08:46] <nitin__> i wanted to depoly a django application on LAN ... how can i use my PC to deploy the application
[08:46] <sw> Hi, trying to connect to a server running VNC Server via VNC Viewer but getting the error 'VNC Server has no security types configured. Please check VNC Server configuration and try again.'. What's this mean?
[08:46] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: and if that fails, [ sudo apt-get -f install ]
[08:47] <pratz> somsip: tried same error
[08:47] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:47] <sai_kumar> cristian_c : Hi !
[08:47] <usr13_>  sw:  What kind of server is it?
[08:47] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, I've seen a few people ask about it, not sure if it's a hugely common issue. I have had that issue in the past (upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10, and then to 12.04 and 12.10) - Sometimes it just happens, and that's why that tool exists :)
[08:47] <somsip> pratz: remind me - what version?
[08:48] <pratz> ThatOneRoadie: tried that same error
[08:48] <cristian_c> there is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned
[08:48] <sw> usr13_, What do you mean what kind?
[08:48] <pratz> somsip: 12.04
[08:48] <usr13_> OS
[08:48] <nobit2> I installed Xen using the recommended procedure on Ubuntu's site using motherboard Supermicro X7SBL-LN2 and Ubuntu 13.04.  After the installing it and rebooting my console looks like this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRHKgZ3d8r4  I've had this happen also with CentOS 6 as well.  Everything on the server works fine but the console is unusable.  If I switch back to the stock kernel it goes back to normal and I can use the console again but then I can't u
[08:48] <nobit2> se Xen.
[08:48] <FloodBot1> nobit2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <cristian_c> also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc
[08:49] <sw> usr13_, Ubuntu?
[08:49] <somsip> !fixapt | pratz
[08:49] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[08:49] <somsip> pratz: maybe not - I was thinking that would say something else
[08:49] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:49] <somsip> pratz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146362/getting-error-on-downloading-updates
[08:49] <Wiz_KeeD> ThatOneRoadie, now he said he opened up port 80 still nothing happens and nothing in the access log
[08:49] <usr13_>  sw Is that a question or an answer?
[08:49] <sw> usr13_, We're in #ubuntu so obviously it's Ubuntu.
[08:50] <juniour> cristiana_c which one freezes shutdown or restart ??
[08:50] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: [ sudo ufw status verbose ]
[08:50] <usr13_> sw: Is it tightvncserver that is running on a Ubuntu system?  Is it Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:51] <cristian_c> juniour, restart and logout
[08:51] <cristian_c> juniour, shutdown is regular
[08:51] <pratz> somsip: are you sure I have to use 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ?
[08:52] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: There is a difference between update and upgrade
[08:52] <somsip> pratz: depends if you want to use apt-get to upgrade all packages as superuser or not
[08:52] <sai_kumar> soulflare3 : That tool saved me ! Thanks for your comments ! :)
[08:52] <pratz> somsip: ThatOneRoadie I do not want anything to be upgraded
[08:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Status: inactive
[08:52] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[08:52] <ThatOneRoadie> hmm, no firewall then
[08:52] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, np, glad it's fixed :)
[08:52] <somsip> pratz: so update and install the package you're trying to install
[08:53] <usr13_> sw: Did you set password when you ran tightvncserver?
[08:53] <ThatOneRoadie> by chance, is the virtual machine's IP address 172.16.*.*?
[08:53] <Lachezar> Hey all...
[08:53] <ThatOneRoadie> or anything between .16.* and .32.*
[08:53] <usr13_> sw: If you intend to not use password, switch to x11vnc
[08:54] <Lachezar> My laptop has Java 6 and 7 installed, with 7 being preferred. However my colleague's laptop has somehow Java 6 preferred. How come, and how to fix that?
[08:54] <ThatOneRoadie> !path | Lachezar
[08:54] <ponsfrilus> Hi all. I wonder what are the apps behind the screenshot here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/more-apps
[08:54] <Mayank> Hi, I have two servers, both running Ubuntu 12.01. Server B is behind a firewall and cannot be accessed outside the institution. If I need to scp to Server B it has to be through Server A. It makes it very difficult to upload files. Is there any way I could handle this? Tunneling sftp traffic? But how? Any leads?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !norwegian
[08:54] <Wiz_KeeD> 56 ThatOneRoadie
[08:55] <Lachezar> ThatOneRoadie: Nothing to do with the Path, more to do with the 'Alternatives' infrastructure (somehow it has lower preference on the newer Java).
[08:55] <Wiz_KeeD> 172.16.21.56
[08:55] <pratz> somsip: ThatOneRoadie tried that but the same error again
[08:55] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: 172.16.anything.anything is a private network, and needs to be port forwarded. do you have GUI on this VM or is it all CLI?
[08:56] <cristian_c> juniour, any ideas?
[08:56] <Wiz_KeeD> I still need to see what the admin is doing before proceeding
[08:56] <usr13_> Mayank: What makes you think http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/more-apps is a screenshot?
[08:57] <somsip> pratz: sorry, I'm out
[08:57] <Lachezar> Mayank: It's not that hard: "ssh internet_server -L 22222:otherserver:22", and then "scp -p 2222 localhost"
[08:57] <usr13_> Mayank: Punch a whole in the firewall.
[08:58] <llutz> scp -P   uppercase-p for Port
[08:58] <ponsfrilus> usr13_: I meant the space application in the picture
[08:58] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: If you can get the admin to put that VM on Bridged mode (Tell him it needs a public IP address), then it should work
[08:58] <Mayank> usr13_: How?
[08:58] <ThatOneRoadie> but if you're trying to go to Http://213.x.x.x, that server won't see it unless it's PROGRAMMED to see it
[08:58] <usr13_> Mayank: Forward port 22 to server B
[08:58] <Wiz_KeeD> it should work because the 8069 webinterface works
[08:59] <ThatOneRoadie> 8069 might be forwarded though, and 80 might not be
[08:59] <sai_kumar> ponsfrilus : i see Stellarium (or could be celestia), Steam, Ubuntu Software center in the page
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah, he had to add my ip to the whitelist
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> and now everything works, including phpmyadmin
[08:59] <ponsfrilus> sai_kumar: thanks I'm gonna  check
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks a lot for helping out ThatOneRoadie
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> what a pal :D
[08:59] <Mayank> usr13_: Yeah, but I do not have sudo account for Server A, will it require that? Can something be done with my account only?
[08:59] <ThatOneRoadie> No worries :)
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> and sorry for wasting time with this issue :(
[08:59] <ThatOneRoadie> If you want, I can send you the link to our LAMP stacks
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> should have thought of that since the access log showed nothing
[08:59] <Wiz_KeeD> lamp stacks?
[09:00] <sai_kumar> ponsfrilus : the space app could be Stellarium or Celestia
[09:00] <ThatOneRoadie> VM Images pre-installed with LAMP
[09:00] <cristian_c> An other question:
[09:00] <usr13_> ponsfrilus: Oh, prolly kstars, I dono.
[09:00] <ThatOneRoadie> LAMP = Linux, Apache, Mysql, Perl/PHP/Python
[09:00] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:01] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[09:01] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:01] <ThatOneRoadie> They also have a bunch of other pre-configured VM images, like etherpad, gitlab, and a Minecraft server.
[09:01] <usr13_> Mayank: No.  You'll have to do port forwarding on the server, (if the situation is as you said).
[09:02] <ThatOneRoadie> Just point ESXi at the vmdk image and go, it's really that simple
[09:03] <usr13_> Mayank: What kind of firewall is it?
[09:03] <Amnuriak> Oh sorry, link earlier was the wrong one. Please see this for my issue with graphics driver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285354/graphics-driver-for-ati-firepro-2770-not-working-properly-on-12-04
[09:03] <Mayank> usr13_: not sure. It does not allow port 22 connections from outside.
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ahhh vm images with the installation
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah i had messed something up real bad ThatOneRoadie and i had to format everything
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> that would come in handy big-time :D
[09:04] <ThatOneRoadie> Sure, one sec, I'll PM you the links
[09:05] <cowen> hey
[09:05] <usr13_> cristian_c: What sound card to you have?
[09:05] <usr13_> cristian_c: Are you sure it is mono?
[09:05] <cowen> updated my laptop went fine, now upgrading my desktop and it bombed on upgrading the kernel, how can I start the process of where it last was
[09:05] <sai_kumar> cristian_c : you can also switch in the App you are using...
[09:05] <usr13_> cristian_c: Or is the source file mono?
[09:06] <Mayank> usr13_: How about letting a ssh run on server A, that keeps connected a tunnel to server B? But I am not sure how to do this/ is this what you were referring to?
[09:06] <usr13_> cristian_c: Available sound configs can be accessed via   alsamixer
[09:07] <javier_> hi! I'm trying to install ubuntu to a new used but we find problems. After the fresh install, we can't upgrade the system. In the upgrade manager, we found an error and using terminal, after "sudo apt-get update", it says "mkdir can't be made". Any help? thanks!
[09:08] <usr13_> Mayank: Where is "Server A"?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> javier_, md5sum to ensure good ISO?
[09:08] <usr13_> Mayank: If you can access Server A from Server B then do it from Server B
[09:09] <javier_> cfhowlett, mmm, I'm afraid I don't know how to make that. Could you describe it shortly? thanks!
[09:09] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|javier_,
[09:09] <Mayank> usr13_: Server A is outside the firewall. Server B is behind the firewall. I need to access B from A. I have the root account for B, but not for A.
[09:10] <Silox|> Hello there, upgrading to Ubuntu 13.04 borked my online accounts. I had a few extensions working with these accounts (gmail, calendar, ...) and they've all stopped working. E.g. the calendar extension throws: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.OnlineAccounts was not provided by any .service files
[09:10] <usr13_> Mayank: Then you will have to do port forwarding on the firewall.
[09:11] <usr13_> Mayank: Are there *any* ports forwarded to Server B, (through the firewall)?
[09:12] <Mayank> usr13_: Yes port :80
[09:12] <cristian_c> usr13_, a classic builtin sound card
[09:12] <cristian_c> usr13_, Now, it's in mono mode
[09:13] <cfhowlett> javier_, mm.  factoid bot appears asleep.  anyway, md5sum invokes a hash check to verify that completeness and accuracy of the download.  http://wiki.ubuntu.com.cn/UbuntuHelp:HowToMD5SUM
[09:13] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[09:13] <llutz> Mayank:  "ssh -fN -L 2222:host-B:22 host-A", and then "scp -P 2222 file localhost:/path" to copy stuff to host-B
[09:13] <cfhowlett> javier_, note:  this only works on the downloaded ISO.  To verify your boot disk/usb, run "check disk for errors" upon boot
[09:13] <cristian_c> *it's set
[09:13] <usr13_> Mayank: Only 80.  Well, I suppose you could tell Server A's sshd to listen on port 80
[09:13] <Mayank> usr13_: Do not have the root access for Server A
[09:13] <javier_> cfhowlett, I tried md5sum and it seems the file is fine
[09:14] <javier_> cfhowlett, this might be a clue: if I try to install something (sudo apt-get install synapse) I get this: "sudo: impossible to make mkdir /var/lib/sudo/ernesto: filesystem only reading", and then asks for password
[09:15] <usr13_> Mayank: llutz has a suggestion, (one that I don't quite understand, but...)
[09:15] <cristian_c> sai_kumar, Where can I switch for the app?
[09:15] <cristian_c> usr13_, I tried with several files
[09:16] <Mayank> llutz: Can you be a bit more clear? What do I need to scp to localhost refers to? Thanks!
[09:16] <Mayank> usr13_: Thanks
[09:16] <usr13_> cristian_c: What does alsamixer say about it?
[09:16] <luk01> ifconfig reports that eth0 has an IP, but ls /dev/eth* gives: "No such file or directory". I'm in a VM with 1 network card. What's the network card's name?
[09:16] <cristian_c> usr13_, ok, but I don't know how to switch in alsamixer from mono to stereo
[09:16] <luk01> on a Raring Live CD.
[09:16] <AZkennett> I can't get my system to recognize my network card.
[09:16] <llutz> Mayank: if you established the tunnel (ssh -L....), you just use "scp -P2222 whatever-file localhost:path" to copy things to host-A
[09:17] <javier_> looks to me like we don't have permissions for doing anything
[09:17] <cristian_c> usr13_, I can post a screenshot
[09:17] <usr13_> cristian_c: I don't either.  (I've never had a mono sound card.)
[09:17] <ThatOneRoadie> !screenshot | cristian_c
[09:17] <usr13_> !paste | cristian_c
[09:17] <llutz> Mayank: localhost port 2222 tunnels scp to host-b, which forwards it to host-a:22
[09:17] <cristian_c> usr13_, it's a stereo sound card, with tow speakers
[09:17] <cristian_c> *two
[09:18] <usr13_> cristian_c: post a screenshot of alsamixer.  (You might widen the terminal to show all channels first.)
[09:18] <usr13_> cristian_c: (Or as many as you can get on the screen.)
[09:18] <llutz> Mayank: localhost port 2222 tunnels scp to host-a, which forwards it to host-b:22      sorry mixed the hosts
[09:18] <Mayank> llutz: localhost:path will be the path to the host-A (behind the firewall)?
[09:19] <llutz> Mayank: yes, instead of "scp file host-B:/my/destination/path" (which you cannot reach from outside) you use "scp -P2222 localhost:/my/destination/path"
[09:20] <gerryvdm_mbp> when i ssh into my ubuntu server i still get a message "New release '13.04' available." even after i upgraded, what should i do to fix it?
[09:20] <cristian_c> ThatOneRoadie, usr13_, http://imagebin.org/255751
[09:21] <cristian_c> usr13_, the are all the playback channels
[09:21] <Mayank> llutz: Oh, great! Let me try. thanks
[09:21] <sai_kumar> cristian_c, depends on the App :-  VLC in the Audio Channels menu; Clementine in  preferences->Playback
[09:21] <cristian_c> *they
[09:21] <cristian_c> sai_kumar, I try with vlc
[09:22] <usr13_> gerryvdm_mbp: lsb_release -r say?
[09:22] <gerryvdm_mbp> 13.04
[09:23] <usr13_> gerryvdm_mbp: hummm...   sudo apt-get update
[09:23] <cristian_c> sai_kumar, Stereo is flagged
[09:24] <gerryvdm_mbp> usr13_: update && upgrade, still prompts to upgrade when logging in
[09:25] <usr13_> gerryvdm_mbp: What?
[09:25] <gerryvdm_mbp> mm, /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd is displaying this message
[09:26] <gerryvdm_mbp> i probably should just remove the stamp referenced in that script
[09:27] <amcsi_work> hi
[09:28] <amcsi_work> my network client says I'm connected to the VPN, but ifconfig says I'm only connected to 192.168.68.4. What is causing this?
[09:28] <gerryvdm_mbp> yeah that fixed it
[09:29] <usr13_> gerryvdm_mbp: Very good.  (Thanks for telling us the solution.)
[09:31] <cristian_c> usr13_, any ideas?
[09:35] <usr13_> cristian_c: Is that screenshot showing all the channels?
[09:35] <cristian_c> usr13_, all the playback channels
[09:35] <g105b> Just logged in this morning, and everything looks like Windows 95. (13.04) http://i.imgur.com/MnJVZDC.png http://i.imgur.com/ATgIYEj.png
[09:35] <usr13_> cristian_c: (It does not appear to be showing all the channels.)
[09:36] <usr13_> cristian_c: Hit the right arrow a few times.
[09:37] <usr13_> cristian_c: Hit the right arrow a few times until you get to the end.
[09:38] <g105b> can anyone help me get back to normal theme?
[09:39] <usr13_> g105b:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/81727/how-to-set-unity-as-default-again
[09:39] <g105b> usr13_: I did that, exactly that post
[09:39] <g105b> didn't help
[09:40] <g105b> I think removing the user account and creating it again would work ... but I don't want to lose any files from the home directory
[09:41] <usr13_> g105b: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-reset-unity-to-default-settings-in-ubuntu/
[09:41] <tkgroovy> hello
[09:41] <g105b> usr13_: I'm on 13.04
[09:41] <Silox|> Fixed it, it seems like the upgrade removed gnome-online-accounts...
[09:41] <g105b> usr13_: that's for up to 12.04
[09:41] <usr13_> g105b: (Sorry, the first one was wrong.
[09:41] <papul> hi I am trying to compile a printer driver and its asking me for glib. But I can't find it on the repo.
[09:41] <papul> what should I install?
[09:41] <cristian_c> usr13_, There aren't other playback channels
[09:41] <papul> I am using 64 bit
[09:41] <tkgroovy> usually i can solve my problems with google, but this time I'm stuck. I connect to a ubuntu using putty. I want to start a video, using the local display, not the display where my putty is running.
[09:42] <cristian_c> usr13_, There are 8 playback channels
[09:42] <tkgroovy> I can't figure out, how to set diplsay, x-display or whatever I need to set
[09:42] <tkgroovy> on the local screen, I see the tty1 login screen. That shall
[09:43] <tkgroovy> be my X-Windows display. How can I do that remotely?
[09:43] <usr13_> g105b: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[09:43] <g105b> usr13_: I don't think it is unity/compiz - the theme is all wrong and the font is not the usual Ubuntu font, just freesans
[09:44] <brunus> bonjour tout le monde
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !fr|brunus,
[09:44] <usr13_> cristian_c:  I did not ask how many playback channels.  I asked you to widen the terminal window to show all channels.
[09:44] <brunus> oops sorry
[09:45] <usr13_> g105b: What Desktop Environment are you using?
[09:46] <cristian_c> usr13_, I've enlarged the window, but always same channels
[09:47] <usr13_> cristian_c: F5 ?
[09:49] <usr13_> cristian_c: lspci |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[09:51] <cristian_c> usr13_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615379/
[09:51] <cristian_c> usr13_, with F5, I get all channels
[09:55] <usr13_> cristian_c: Show me.
[09:56] <usr13_> cristian_c: What does the "Channel" collum say?
[09:58] <usr13_> cristian_c: play  /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[09:58] <usr13_> cristian_c: In terminal issue command ^^^
[09:58] <cristian_c> usr13_, http://imagebin.org/255752
[09:59] <fr0gger_> anyone know if there is chanell about VirtualGL
[09:59] <fr0gger_> or where an I get help with VGL?
[09:59] <DJones> !alis | fr0gger_
[10:00] <cristian_c> !paste
[10:00] <papul> I am trying to compile a driver. Ran into a snag http://dpaste.com/1077744/ What do I need to install?
[10:01] <cristian_c> usr13_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615401/
[10:04] <usr13_> cristian_c: play not aplay
[10:06] <ct529> hi everybody .... I am having serious performance problems. I have been trying to set the CPU frequency manually using command line, but the "usual" commands are not there any more .... how do you do it now?
[10:06] <cristian_c> usr13_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615416/
[10:08] <starkiller> hello
[10:08] <starkiller> is there a program that would make sure xubuntu its runnung at full speed?
[10:09] <usr13_> cristian_c: When in alsamixer, (showing all channels), if you hit the right arrow, do you ever get to a channel labled "Channel"?
[10:09] <cristian_c> usr13_, no, there isn't
[10:10] <Bostoman> starkiller, no, itś all about tweaking it for yourself based on your needs, why do you ask?
[10:10] <usr13_> cristian_c: Is this a desktop PC?
[10:11] <starkiller> i have xubuntu in my desktop, and my laptop. my laptop has more ram than my desktop, but my desktop seems to be faster XD
[10:11] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there a special tag I have to set for HDs in /etc/fstab to mount them as read-write? I have used this line: UUID=7466ecda-e1f2-4302-8e0c-0aca7bad33af   /media/stephan/backupdiskone   reiserfs   defaults   0   2
[10:11] <cristian_c> usr13_, no
[10:12] <flamed> hi, i'm running linux mint at the minute, but it doesn't support ATi dual monitoring so well. i'm debating to install ubuntu and wondered if you guys know if their dual monitor support is good wiht ATi drivers?
[10:12] <usr13_> cristian_c: I really don't know, (not even sure it is really limiting to mono only for sure). I suppose we could do a test.  Play a file that only has right or left channel.
[10:12] <usr13_> Let me see...
[10:13] <starkiller> Thanks anyways xD im doing way better than with xp and windows 7
[10:15] <papul> there is this tool to compile normal sorce packages to a deb file. What is it?
[10:15] <DJones> !checkinstall | papul
[10:18] <usr13_> cristian_c: http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_stereo.php
[10:18] <usr13_> cristian_c:  Test  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:20] <cristian_c> usr13_, I'm trying to undestand how to do
[10:20] <cristian_c> :(
[10:20] <cristian_c> *understand
[10:20] <cristian_c> If your left speaker plays right, it's wrong! Swap your speakers - or better, your speaker connections - and you're done.
[10:21] <cristian_c> I'm trying to convert a stereo file to mono with audacity
[10:21] <usr13_> cristian_c: Did you click to play the audio files?
[10:21] <cristian_c> *too
[10:21] <cristian_c> in 'The test files'?
[10:22] <usr13_> cristian_c: Are you telling me that we have been trying to solve the wrong problem?
[10:22] <andrea_> what is the symbol " ./ " that you use to execute scripts?
[10:22] <andrea_> how is it callede?
[10:22] <andrea_> called?
[10:23] <cristian_c> usr13_, no, I can't understand how to do
[10:23] <usr13_> andrea_: It's called   "./"   ;)
[10:23] <cristian_c> http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_stereo.php
[10:23] <andrea_> usr13: yes but is there a special reason for it?  And do i have to call it "dot forward slash"?
[10:23] <shvchk> Hello. Anyone having issue with AutoFS ignoring direct mounts in 13.04 (12.10 worked fine, same config files)?
[10:23] <usr13_> cristian_c: "The test files"  (Click to play them.)
[10:24] <usr13_> andrea_: I don't know what you should call it.
[10:24] <cristian_c> usr13_, I clicked 'Left'
[10:24] <cristian_c> then Right
[10:24] <usr13_> andrea_: but ./  or sh file.sh  should do the trick.
[10:25] <usr13_> cristian_c: And did the audio come out of the  Left and then Right speakers?
[10:25] <usr13_> andrea_: I'm not sure I understand the question.
[10:25] <cristian_c> usr13_, no audio
[10:25] <cristian_c> usr13_, I've converted an .mp3 fiole to mono
[10:25] <cristian_c> *file
[10:26] <usr13_> cristian_c: Ok.
[10:26] <cristian_c> usr13_, I've got a mono file
[10:26] <fr0gger_> cock
[10:26] <andrea_> usr13_: do i always have to be on the current directory?
[10:26] <cristian_c> usr13_, i'm playing the mono file
[10:26] <DJones> fr0gger_: Mind the language, please keep it family friendly
[10:28] <usr13_> andrea_: No, but if you are not in the current directory, you'll have to use path.  But it's easier to just go to the directory where the file is.
[10:29] <usr13_> andrea_: What exactly are you wanting to do?  (What is your end goal?)
[10:30] <usr13_> andrea_: Are we trying to solve a specific problem?  Or are we just trying to figure out what can be done with executable files?
[10:30] <usr13_> andrea_: Is there one that is not working for you?
[10:32] <Mrokii> How does the entry in fstab have to look (for an internal HD) so that it is not mounted with root-access only? What I mean is: I have successfully created an fstab entry for an HD (mountpoint in /media), but it seems that all the folders are owned by root.
[10:33] <cristian_c> usr13_, what have I to do?
[10:33] <PABLETOH> hola
[10:34] <usr13_> cristian_c: To convert a stereo file to mono?
[10:34] <g105b_> What's the best way to recreate a user account without losing any files in their home directory?
[10:35] <nabblet> hi, i am using openconnect from commandline. connecting works good so far, but setting my routing and DNS infos with the vpnc-script does not work, i think. can some1 help me?
[10:35] <nabblet> or is there a channel for that?
[10:36] <cristian_c> usr13_, no, to solve the problem
[10:36] <cristian_c> usr13_, I've already converted the file
[10:36] <usr13_> andrea_: If the file is in /home/andrea/bin  and you are in /home/andrea  you would can use command  bin/./executable-file   or  /home/andrea/bin/./executable-file  #Either one will do the job.
[10:37] <usr13_> cristian_c: I don't know.
[10:38] <cristian_c> :(
[10:39] <usr13_> andrea_: (... that is, if the file has the executable bit set.)
[10:41] <usr13_> andrea_: chmod +x  bin/executable-file
[10:43] <Chat7899> Hi
[10:46] <soulflare3> Having an issue after installing and removing EMACS that whenever I click an executable text file (.sh or .run) instead of executing, it opens in GEDIT.  Permissions are Read + Write and the executable flag is set
[10:52] <fr0gger_> u guys know what cock is?
[10:52] <soulflare3> this is not the place for that
[10:53] <fr0gger_> i mean rooster application
[10:53] <fr0gger_> u dont know it?
[10:53] <soulflare3> no
[10:53] <fr0gger_> i need help with cock rooster application
[10:53] <fr0gger_> anyone heard about it here?
[10:55] <jony> I want to install a VNC server which does not show anything on the local display when I connect to it
[10:58] <soulflare3> jony,  I use TigerVNC on my server, it works well, if you don't mind compiling manually - if not, There are several apps for VNC in the Ubuntu software center, though I haven't used any of them
[10:58] <sky_> chat room
[10:58] <fr0gger_> try NX software for VNC
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> sigh...
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> just my luck...  updated to 13.04..    allowed gnome3-team ppa to update me to 3.8..  yet a lot of the features from 3.8  like privacy and notification settings are missing from the settings menu
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> and all my fav extensions are not 3.8 compatible yet....
[11:03] <l057c0d3r> oh well
[11:04] <l057c0d3r> and sadly it seems to crash more now as well..  should have stuck with what i had...  was hoping it would fix the fast user switch and lock screen thouhg..  so i could just switch to an account that was running a custom desktop for my kids....
[11:09] <Joanet> hi all
[11:09] <Joanet> I want to add skype using apt-get for using with ltsp-localapps but when I try to do it I get "unable to locate package"
[11:09] <g105b_> In Ubuntu, what is it called that draws buttons, menus and the general windowing system?
[11:10] <g105b_> is it GTK+?
[11:11] <Joanet> I'm running x64 version of edubuntu 12.04
[11:11] <Joanet> also I tried to add repository doing : sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[11:12] <Joanet> but I got an error saying the file not exists
[11:17] <shvchk> I have a problem with mounting SSH with Autofs, can somebody help? sudo sshfs user@example.com:/ mountpoint works, but not the same mountpoint in config file (which used to work on 12.10).
[11:17] <mar_> hi. I messed up trying to get nVidia drivers. What's simplest way to revert? I tried removing xorg.conf, but unity taskbar and window borders don't display.
[11:18] <mar_> is there a way reinstall the xwindow system?
[11:20] <minas> I want to write windows 7 iso into a usb memory stick using startup disk creator. However when I select it from the program's gui it doesn't select it. It works with other ubuntu based isos.
[11:20] <l057c0d3r> mar_ you would have to remove the binary drivers that were installed.. more then likely your system is still using them
[11:20] <l057c0d3r> have you checked out this guide yet
[11:20] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | mar_
[11:22] <mar_> l057c0d3r, thanks. will give it a shot
[11:22] <l057c0d3r> sorry if i can't be much better help.. i've had amd/ati cards since my old nvidia tnt2
[11:23] <jony> soulflare3, tigerVNC works without displaying anything on the host's display?
[11:23] <daler> people does anyone know how to install postgress in ubuntu 13.04?
[11:24] <daler> http://askubuntu.com/questions/287786/how-to-install-postgresql-on-ubuntu-13-04 you can answer here
[11:24] <daler> really need help
[11:26] <onr> daler: add postgres repository for precise
[11:26] <basss> hello everyone, im trying to setup my ubuntu machine as a router, any idea where to start ?
[11:26] <daler> @onr, precise woudnt install here on 13.04
[11:27] <onr> daler: i did install
[11:27] <onr> daler: don't use pitti, use postgres official
[11:27] <daler> can you give me a full deb path?
[11:27] <llutz> basss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[11:28] <basss> llutz thanks\
[11:28] <onr> daler: http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[11:28] <kulagrad> hi is ther some command to change your pc network name (hostname) to random?
[11:28] <onr> and remove pitti's one from sources.list.d/
[11:29] <Myrtti> kulagrad: what do you mean? in IRC or in general?
[11:30] <kulagrad> i know ther is text file in ect/host/hostname and in thet faile is the name of host but i would like to make a script so it changes name random
[11:30] <Myrtti> kulagrad: oh, hostname.
[11:30] <kulagrad> Myrtti:  on evry startup
[11:30] <onr> kulagrad: "Startup Applications"
[11:31] <kulagrad> Myrtti:  i know how to add to startup i just aded random mac whit macchanger but i dont know how  to do the same whit pc name
[11:31] <kulagrad> how to randomly chane text in text file
[11:31] <daler> onr: it says the following packae unmet a dependencies
[11:31] <daler> onr: postgresql-9.1 : Depends: postgresql-common (>= 115~) but it is not going to be installed
[11:31] <daler> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:31] <onr> daler: press N
[11:32] <snuggl> kulagrad: use shuf to get a random line from a file of hostnames, use $() bash escapes to use this command in another command
[11:32] <daler> onr: it doest give options yes or no
[11:32] <snuggl> kulagrad: then make that other command do what you want to do, run hostname or write a file
[11:32] <daler> error and thats it
[11:32] <kulagrad> snuggl:  what is shuf?
[11:32] <onr> daler: paste everything please
[11:33] <snuggl> shuf is a command line util to get random pices of text
[11:33] <snuggl> shuf --help
[11:33] <kulagrad> snuggl:  i am reading ty
[11:33] <snuggl> use it with /usr/share/dict/words or any other list of words
[11:33] <snuggl> to get a random word
[11:34] <kulagrad> snuggl:  is it posibe to do it whitout word list like random 8 leaters
[11:34] <daler> onr: Reading package lists... Done
[11:34] <daler> daler@daler-H61H2-M12:/usr$ sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1
[11:34] <daler> Reading package lists... Done
[11:34] <daler> Building dependency tree
[11:34] <daler> Reading state information... Done
[11:34] <daler> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[11:34] <FloodBot1> daler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <daler> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[11:35] <snuggl> kulagrad: you could md5-sum something to get a random string
[11:35] <snuggl> like the current date
[11:36] <kulagrad> snuggl:  sory but i am still from noobland
[11:36] <snuggl> kulagrad: hostname $(date|md5sum)
[11:36] <snuggl> that will set hostname to a random thing
[11:36] <snuggl> date|md5sum > /some/file will write it to a file
[11:37] <onr> daler: 9.1 is already in repo
[11:37] <kulagrad> ok but hostname $(date|md5sum) will cange my hostname to some random
[11:37] <onr> kulagrad: :)
[11:37] <kulagrad> ?
[11:38] <onr> isn't that what are you trying to do?
[11:38] <daler> this bloody 13.04.. i started with the wrong version of linux systems
[11:41] <Slaizer> hi, on ubuntuone i uploaded 'avi' and 'flac' files, it seems like it cant be uploaded on this service? Am i right, then how come?
[11:41] <kulagrad> snuggl:  this doset work seys command not found $(date|md5sum) >'/home/korisnik/Documents/mdsum'
[11:42] <kulagrad> snuggl:  it gives me mdsum code but it dosent wire anything to file
[11:45] <jony> I want to install a VNC server which does not show anything on the local display when I connect to it, please help
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> jony: is VNC absolutely necessary?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> jony: have you considered other solutions?
[11:47] <onr> jony: find one that doesn't have gui
[11:47] <onr> you're asking for stealth, i assume
[11:48] <jony> I want remote desktop to another ubuntu pc
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> jony: but to achieve what end?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jony: what is the reason for the access?
[11:50] <kulagrad> newermind i genereted online 250 random names
[11:50] <bennypr0fane> can anyone confirm that this works? http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1004-1010-1104-to-ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-a-server/ specifiaclly, in my case, upgrading from 12.04 directly to 13.04
[11:50] <kulagrad> now what is terminal command to pic 1 lane from text file and edit put thet laine in other text file?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: you will need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: you should not leapfrog releases
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: you do realise Raring is only supported til January 2014?
[11:52] <shvchk> Sorry for asking again, but I have a strange problem with mounting SSH with Autofs, can somebody help? sudo sshfs user@example.com:/ mountpoint works, but not the same mountpoint in config file (which used to work on 12.10).
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: is the file large?
[11:52] <kulagrad> no 200 words of 8 caracters
[11:52] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  3.2kb
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: sed '5q;d' file    will show the 5th line in 'file'
[11:54] <bennypr0fane> ActionParsnip, yes, I know about that. What I want is Gnome Shell 3.6 though (not officially available in 12.04), and I have information from one Ubuntu Gnome developer that Gnome will be more updated in 13.04, despite the shorter life span
[11:55] <mar_> hi. I'm trying to do this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75289/can-i-revert-an-nvidia-driver without success
[11:55] <greg6061> how can I install mysql 5.6 from source and then later php/apache from packages (they requiere - mysql-common) ?
[11:55] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  i try it seys comand not foud i even try whit quots
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6022384/bash-tool-to-get-nth-line-from-a-file
[11:56] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  '5q;d'  '/home/korisnik/Documents/HostnameR'
[11:56] <mar_> the guy makes like all you have to do is recreate the xorg.conf file, but after I did that its even worse. Ubuntu loads like 800x600. Help!
[11:56] <Myrtti> bennypr0fane: cherry picking stuff from other releases is generally a Very Bad Idea.
[11:56] <bennypr0fane> ActionParsnip, apart from the fact that I *should* not, is it poissible to jump a release? doing it in 2 steps will require twice the time, right?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: you don't need quotes around the filename
[11:56] <kulagrad> ok
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: you also forgot the word 'sed' which is the command
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: sed '5q;d' file    will show the 5th line in 'file'
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: note the word 'sed'
[11:57] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  it wokrs whti sed
[11:57] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  ty
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: yes, but you can only upgrade to the next release, or from LTS to LTS
[11:57] <Myrtti> bennypr0fane: but since you plan to upgrade the whole thing, the supported method is, as said, through 12.10. do-release-upgrade -d upgrades to the developmental release - and you don't want to do that.
[11:57] <bennypr0fane> Myrtti well that's why I want to upgrade instead
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: why did you miss it off?
[11:57] <fr0gger_> did somone use Tassel here?
[11:58] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  dont know realy anywey now how to us this output to edit other text
[11:58] <bennypr0fane> Myrtti so without the -d option then. why even bring it up if I don't want it?
[11:59] <uvala> hello everyone, how do I back up nevernote? I see a logs folder under the folder /.nevernote, but dont know how to proceed
[11:59] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip: want to line 1 from MyText to change it whi random line form MyText2
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: I'd ask in #bash too
[12:00] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  what?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> kulagrad: its a different channel, specifically for bash
[12:00] <Myrtti> bennypr0fane: because the link you supplied used it as a method of getting (at the time of the writing of the article - a developmental release) Raring
[12:00] <kulagrad> ActionParsnip:  ok will try
[12:01] <bennypr0fane> Myrtti just saw that, sorry
[12:05] <bennypr0fane> but then why is officially recommended to use the -d option. That page is general info about upgrading any release to the next, so I'd assume it should recommend stable...?
[12:05] <k1l> bennypr0fane: -d is for development upgrades
[12:06] <bennypr0fane> k1l we've established that already. Now, I'm trying to understand why that is recommended in the wiki for a standard upgrade procedure. I also tried the GUI, which offers 12.10
[12:08] <Tatuus> Hello, started Ubuntu 13.04 up, and arriving to desktop, there's no launcher at all on the left... Now what ?
[12:08] <bennypr0fane> this instruction with the -d option is found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_last_release
[12:10] <bennypr0fane> anyways, if I just leave out the -d option or use the gui update manager instead, going first from 12.04 to 12.10, then from 12.10 to 13.04, it should be fine, right?
[12:11] <k1l> bennypr0fane: since its a wiki someone updated the information since 13.04 is released but didnt change the -d option
[12:12] <Ben64> bennypr0fane: you know you can stay on 12.04 and go directly to 14.04?
[12:14] <jony> ActionParsnip, the other PC it's in another office, and I'm too lazy to go there if I want to work on it
[12:14] <bennypr0fane> k1l I was saying it shouldn't contain info specific to any release at all, since that page is not release-specific
[12:14] <bennypr0fane> Ben64 is that a typo?
[12:15] <k1l> bennypr0fane: it was release specific. i changed it now
[12:15] <Ben64> bennypr0fane: no
[12:15] <k1l> Ben64: lubuntu dont do lts releases at atll
[12:16] <Ben64> k1l: oh, weird
[12:16] <Ben64> k1l: i thought it was all the same? cause i'm on 12.04 lts and i can "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" would that make it not lts?
[12:17] <bennypr0fane> k1l you mean this page was release specific until an ago when I first read it? :-D what's "atll"?
[12:17] <felon> can someone help me get my display detected in ubuntu13.04
[12:18] <bennypr0fane> Ben64 if you're on Ubuntu 12.04, it's LTS. If you chanfe the desktop environment, that doesn't change its end of life
[12:18] <bennypr0fane> Lubuntu, on the other hand, is never LTS
[12:18] <k1l> Ben64: the lubuntu specific packages dont have lts support. but maybe they change that after ubuntu changed their support timeframes
[12:18] <bennypr0fane> they even stepped down to 9 months support per release only, it seems
[12:18] <k1l> bennypr0fane: you are wrong on that
[12:19] <bennypr0fane> k1l what exactly
[12:20] <susana> hello guys
[12:20] <k1l> bennypr0fane: just look into the editing history of that wiki page yourself. you will see what was going on there
[12:20] <Ben64> so all the ubuntu stuff would still be updated, just not lxde, lxterminal and the other lubuntu stuff?
[12:20] <navik> Recent weeks I've started experience input lag in application menues and gnome-terminals. It's both in form of press and click events as well as from typing input into the prompt or menues. It can be resolved by opening a new console or opening another application and then reopening the menu in the app that is menu-lagging. Ubuntu 12.10, running unity desk. Any ideas?
[12:20] <jony> I want to install a VNC server which does not show anything on the local display when I connect to it, please help
[12:20] <susana> someone knows how I can change the pantheon-greeter's background?
[12:21] <bennypr0fane> like k1l said, "all Lubuntu specific packages" would be updated only for 18 months
[12:21] <k1l> *sigh*
[12:22]  * PatrickDickey missed the topic on lubuntu. Are they breaking from the official Canonical family or something?
[12:22] <k1l> PatrickDickey: no
[12:23] <PatrickDickey> That's good to hear.
[12:25] <Tatuus> Ok, so i enabled unity in ccsm, still no launcher appearing
[12:25] <bennypr0fane> k1l maybe you should change the 18-months-life-cycle bit as well - if this info is correct: http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/  then 13.04 lasts only 9 months. maybe that's jsut for now and future policy for Lubuntu hasn't been decided yet
[12:26] <Jamiem93> Is this the channel for help?
[12:26] <PatrickDickey> I will say that I took the plunge and upgraded my main desktop to Lubuntu 13,04 this weekend (through the Update Manager). One good thing is, it saw my Fedora installation, without my having to mount the partitions. One bad, and it's not Lubuntu's fault, I couldn't boot into anything but single user mode. I had to remove the AMD beta drivers in order to boot up.
[12:26] <DJones> Jamiem93: If its Ubuntu related, feel free to ask here
[12:26] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: Yes it is. What issues or questions are you needing help with?
[12:26] <Jamiem93> I don't know how to ask this so I'll just explain what I did.
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> Jamiem93  in one line
[12:28] <scarra3> I am running ubuntu 13.04-amd64 and I can't seem to sync my music onto my iphone running iOS 5.X  it says there is not enough space but I have 9.2 GB free.
[12:28] <Jamiem93> Last night, I burned the lubuntu image to a disk and installed it to my laptop. When I turned the laptop back on a little while later to update the software, there was an error. I then ran windows 7 to install that and remove the partition that I created when I installed Lubuntu. Now everytime I boot up the laptop, there is a black flashing screen and I cannot boot from any cd.
[12:29] <k1l> bennypr0fane: thats what i told you. the future plans are not decided yet. i dont get why you make that big drama out of that here
[12:29] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: The Windows 7 installation completed successfully?
[12:30] <Jamiem93> No, it couldn't install over the partition because of the ext.
[12:30] <Jamiem93> Now I can't boot any cd from the laptop without it sitting on a black flashing screen for an hour until the "EDD: 8000 error" appears.
[12:30] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: If you go into BIOS on the laptop, is the CD-ROM set to boot before the first hard drive? Or when you start booting, is there a menu key (like F12) that allows you to select where you want to boot from?
[12:31] <Jamiem93> Yes, I had the BIOS boot from CD to begin with and I've tried booting manually using F12.
[12:31] <Jamiem93> I was able to run gParted from a live cd to remove the partition entirely which left a dev/sda unallocated space but the mbr is still grub I believe?
[12:32] <scarra3> I am running ubuntu 13.04-amd64 and I can't seem to sync my music onto my iphone running iOS 5.X  it says there is not enough space but I have 9.2 GB free.
[12:32] <Tatuus> any help on the launcher issue? i have only empty desktop showing .. on the ccsm, unity is enabled
[12:32] <l057c0d3r_> well i'm actually getting somewhere now :-)
[12:33] <bennypr0fane> k1l no drama. Just suggesting to update the wiki to eb accurate. actually, I'm about to do that now, maybe in a foot note. If you are positive that there's no conclusive status info about the life cycle, I'd add that as well
[12:33] <Jamiem93> Would I be able to run gParted and delete the grub MBR using the terminal?
[12:33] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: Now that you removed the partition with Gparted, can you boot the Windows 7 DVD?
[12:33] <Jamiem93> No.
[12:33] <Jamiem93> I can't boot any cd.
[12:34] <bennypr0fane> Jamiem you could do that with parted, but not gparted
[12:34] <l057c0d3r_> found this amazing gnome-shell theme....  however the message tray and notifications were clear and text well..  almost impossible to see..  after 10 min of searching through the .css file that came with the theme.. i was able to make the message tray a transparent blue gray to match the top bar.. and actually made the notifications match all other popups on the theme
[12:34] <Jamiem93> All I can do is use gparted, otherwise no other livecd boots.
[12:34] <l057c0d3r_> maybe i should start making theme's :-p  what i really need to do is start working on porting my fav extension "bolt" over to 3.8
[12:34] <compdoc> jony,you have to install gnome fallback
[12:34] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, interesting
[12:34] <[olli]> re ppl..
[12:34] <bennypr0fane> I'd like to make changes to my favorite them too
[12:35] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: The Windows 7 shouldn't be a Live CD. One other thing you can try is burn a new Ubuntu CD. When you do the burn, choose the slowest speed possible for the burn speed.
[12:35] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, but haven't succeeded so far
[12:35] <Jamiem93> I've tried that. When I boot that from the laptop, it goes to a black flashing screen.
[12:35] <neirpyc> So I followed the guide on the Ubuntu site for creating a USB installer for OS X but I am not able to boot from the drive on my Macbook Pro. Anyone know why this is happening?
[12:35] <Jamiem93> It's still showing Linux based errors when the partition is empty. How is that possible?
[12:36] <k1l> bennypr0fane: sry but your are not listening at all. i alreaady updated the wiki. while you were still making confusion in here
[12:36] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, thinking about submitting my corrected ( imho ) gnome-shell.css file to the developer of the theme....  since it seems to match better..
[12:36] <l057c0d3r_> maybe they will just upload it to there theme as default
[12:36] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: Because the mbr is still set up for GRUB. My guess is that it's not booting from the Windows 7 DVD or Live CD's but actually trying to boot from the hard drive.
[12:36] <Jamiem93> What can I do?
[12:37] <izx> what is the diff bet UXterm and Term terminals??
[12:37] <Jamiem93> Could I try mbrfix?
[12:37] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, what kind of changes are you wanting to make....  and u running gnome-shell.. i might be able to point you in the right direction.. or at least give you a hint on what text to search for in the file :-p
[12:37] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: Start the laptop and go into the Boot menu (F12 usually).
[12:37] <mar_> q
[12:37] <mar_> q
[12:37] <Jamiem93> Yep?
[12:38] <PatrickDickey> Ok, which CD do you have in the laptop?
[12:38] <Jamiem93> The live CD would be Ubuntu 12.0.4
[12:38] <l057c0d3r_> mar_, you ever get anywhere with that driver issue you were having?
[12:38] <mar_> how can I logout from a terminal?
[12:38] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: take it out, and put the Windows 7 DVD in. We'll get that going first, then put ubuntu on after.
[12:39] <mar_> l057c0d3r_, kindof
[12:39] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ type exit
[12:39] <Jamiem93> That's the problem.
[12:39] <Jamiem93> I can't boot any cd.
[12:39] <jony> compdoc, what's that?
[12:39] <Jamiem93> The only cd I can boot is gParted.
[12:39] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ and to reboot from term type sudo reboot
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:39] <Jamiem93> I'm burning another fresh ubuntu copy to try.
[12:39] <compdoc> jony, what os is running on the machine you use to remote to ubuntu?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: did you burn as slowly as possible, and not with the Windows inbuilt CD burner
[12:39] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ or are you on your desktop with a term opened?
[12:40] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: Patience. If you've got the laptop running at the boot menu, put the Windows 7 DVD in, and choose the option to boot from CD-ROM.
[12:40] <Jamiem93> I used imgburn.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[12:40] <Jamiem93> Yes.
[12:40] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, how exactly did you achieve that? What I want to change is a GTK+ theme though, not Gnome shell, which should work the same
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: burn as slowly as imgburn will allow you
[12:40] <Jamiem93> The disk works fine on another laptop/desktop.
[12:40] <jony> guest PC: ubuntu 13.04, host PC: Lubuntu 12.04
[12:40] <mar_> l057c0d3r, I did section 7 of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection
[12:41] <mar_> l057c0d3r, and it seems to be working, except that Unity doesn't load properly
[12:41] <Jamiem93> I think I've resolved it :P I think the disk was corrupted.
[12:41] <jony> compdoc, guest PC: ubuntu 13.04, host PC: Lubuntu 12.04
[12:41] <PatrickDickey> mar_: What video card do you have in the computer?
[12:41] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, let me look in a few of my gtk+ themes im using.. and see if i can find out a little about them and how they are layed out
[12:41] <mar_> l057c0d3r, I have it set to autologin, so how can I logout of unity and log back in with unity or cinnamon or something?
[12:41] <PatrickDickey> Good deal Jamiem93. Let us know how the installation goes then.
[12:41] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ not loading properly as in?
[12:42] <mar_> PatrickDickey, GeForce410M
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jony: what are you connecting to the other system to achieve please?#
[12:42] <mar_> l057c0d3r_, no taskbar
[12:42] <l057c0d3r_> ah i see
[12:42] <mar_> l057c0d3r_, no launcher
[12:42] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ try ctl+alt+del twice
[12:42] <mar_> l057c0d3r_, docky shows, and window borders too
[12:42] <scarra3> Any ideas?
[12:42] <jony> ActionParsnip, I want remote desktop
[12:42] <l057c0d3r_> might not work with out the task bar though
[12:42] <bennypr0fane> k1l geez, what's your problem. I was just trying to be helpful by pointing out an error, what's the harm in that? confusion is caused by inaccurate info in the wiki, and it's great that you fixed that.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jony: yes, but what will you do on the remote desktop once connected?
[12:43] <k1l> *sigh*
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> scarra3: what is the issue please, I think I missed you post it
[12:43] <scarra3> I am running ubuntu 13.04-amd64 and I can't seem to sync my music onto my iphone running iOS 5.X  it says there is not enough space but I have 9.2 GB free.
[12:43] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, http://forums.worldofgnome.org/discussion/97/themes-gnome-shell-vs-gtk-how-to-customize-them here's a thread I posted about it
[12:43] <compdoc> jony, gnome-session-fallback puts a desktop that works with vnc. the desktop on 12.11 and 13.04 changed.
[12:43] <bennypr0fane> k1l geez, what's your problem. I was just trying to be helpful by pointing out an error, what's the harm in that? confusion is caused by inaccurate info in the wiki, and it's great that you fixed that.
[12:43] <vnc786> hello all !!
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> scarra3: when you last unplugged the device, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[12:44] <jony> the remote PC has two network cards: one will be in my network, the other will be on a different network which has a ubuntu server. I want to connect via browser to that server's phpmyadmin webpage
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> jony: then why do you need vnc, if there is phpmyadmin running?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> jony: setup a masquerade and you can browse through the system, using it like a router
[12:44] <mar_> l057c0d3r, I think I can say I don't have card issues any more
[12:45] <k1l> bennypr0fane: last warning to stop that drama. its all sorted out already
[12:45] <scarra3> actionparsnip: Its not about the safe removal I plug it in an it just doesn't want to copy over
[12:45] <vnc786> 1. installed mini.iso 2. then ubuntu-desktop(without recommends) 3. now able to get GUI but not able to login thru GUI
[12:45] <jony> ActionParsnip, I want remote desktop too
[12:45] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> scarra3: if you don't safe remove, it may mark the storage as unclean mounted as caches haven't been sync'd. There is a reason that feature exists
[12:45] <mar_> l057c0d3r, I'm going to try remove unity and put it back
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> jony: but why?
[12:46] <mar_> if that's possible
[12:46] <scarra3> ActionParsnip: What can I do to fix that?
[12:46] <[olli]> I've a question related to encryption of user homes. I know that data encryption password is encrypted using user password. Once the user changes password itself the data encryption password is reencrypted w/ his password. If this is done by root - no reencryption and data is inaccessible via new password. The question is do I undestand right and it's enough to change password for him to old one (when all worked) and the data will be accessible again? I guess
[12:46] <[olli]>  the salt generated when password is hashed may become a problem, but I didn't dig the situation enough.
[12:46] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ wait
[12:46] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, clearbird is the gtk+ theme that has almost no contrast between font and background when an element is higlighted in file manager
[12:46] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ have you tried unity --reset
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> scarra3: plug it into a windows system (i imagine you use that for itunes etc). You can then eject the device properly and then retry in Ubuntu
[12:46] <l057c0d3r_> in term
[12:46] <jony> ActionParsnip, I want to backup database  too frequently in separate files
[12:46] <mar_> l057c0d3r_, it's deprecated and won't work
[12:47] <l057c0d3r_> ahh i see
[12:47] <scarra3> ActionParsnip: I don't have any windows systems this is my only computer
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> jony: then install openssh-server or samba and you can remote access the files, you don't need VNC for taht
[12:47] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, so u basicly cant see if its hilighted or not.... or when hilighted it vanishes?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> jony: openssh-server will give an SFTP server so you can connect to your fikes over the web securely as well
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> jony: nautilus can mount SFTP too, it can also mount samba
[12:47] <mar_> bye for now
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> jony: again, no need for vnc
[12:48] <compdoc> jony, having a remote desktop is pretty important to many ppl
[12:48] <jony> ok, but the second network (where is the server too), the Internet connection is not allowed
[12:48] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ after you removed your binary driver..  did you reinstall the open one?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> jony: you can use an ssh tunnel and then pipe your web traffic down the tunnel using localhost:someport   as a system wide proxy
[12:49] <jony> the port forwarding is not allowed too....
[12:49] <[olli]> anyone familiar w/ ubuntu user home encryption?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> jony: its not port forwarding, its ssh tunnelling
[12:50] <bennypr0fane> l0 no, when highlighted, you can't read the font bcs it's almost same colour as background
[12:51] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r,
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> jony: ssh -L 2222:82.9.34.77:3128 user@remoteserver      you now have an ssh tunnel, you can run Squid on the other system and all the traffic you pipe down localhost:2222 will hit squid on the remote PC
[12:52] <zetheroo> how to enable dual pane in 13.04 ... in Nautilus ... anyone?
[12:52] <l057c0d3r_> mar_ i would open synaptic up and go to additional drivers..  in the settings/preferene area and make sure its using vouveau....
[12:52] <l057c0d3r_> u did say it broke after installing binary drivers right
[12:52] <k1l> zetheroo: there is no dualpane anymore
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  I miss that option too
[12:53] <l057c0d3r_> k bennypr0fane one sec.. let me see if i can find what u need to change..
[12:53] <jony> ActionParsnip, so once again I describe my situation: I have my PC with ubuntu desktop, I can connect to the other network only via internet. On that network I have ubuntu desktop consoles and an ubuntu server. I want: 1. to connect from my desktop PC to that server's phpmyadmin webpage, 2. I want filesharing
[12:53] <vnc786> 1. installed mini.iso 2. then ubuntu-desktop(without recommends) 3. now able to get GUI but not able to login thru GUI
[12:53] <zetheroo> k1l: No way!!! kidding right!? :P
[12:53] <k1l> vnc786: lightdm installed?
[12:54] <vnc786> yes
[12:54] <zetheroo> is there any way to get dual pane back?
[12:54] <k1l> zetheroo: that is no joke. just ask the gnome guys why they removed that from the latest gnome3 nautilus
[12:54] <PatrickDickey> zetheroo: Nope, it's gone. In fact "nautilus" is gone too. it's "files" now, and follows the Gnome3 setup, which means no dual-pane and some other features are gone too.
[12:54] <zetheroo> >:o Man that pisses me off!!
[12:54] <howlymowly> hi poeple... short question: is it possible to check which packages of my system take up the most disk space?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> jony: openssh-server will give a secure file access method
[12:54] <vnc786> k1l: also not able to get tty except from f1
[12:54] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, go into where your theme is stored..  most likely /usr/share/themes or something like that
[12:55] <zetheroo> dual pane is an absolute must for me
[12:55] <zetheroo> and I know several other people who will be contacting my soon about this issue ... argh
[12:55] <jony> ActionParsnip, but that server won't be connected phisically to the internet
[12:55] <l057c0d3r_> fidn the gtk.css file.. and look through there for this @define-color theme_selected_fg_color and change the color behind it to what you want it to be..
[12:55] <l057c0d3r_> will have to restart your desktop for it to take effecdt though
[12:55] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, I made a screenshot: https://bennypr0fane.trovebox.com/p/8/token-1d6ff1d26a (for reason it's upside down) see the "root" folder? you can hardly discern the font
[12:56] <k1l> zetheroo: again: ubuntu is the wrong adress for that issue :/
[12:56] <l057c0d3r_> and might have to have root access if its a preinstalled theme and not one youj have in your ~/.theme folder
[12:56] <PatrickDickey> howlymowly: Packages, I'm not sure. But, you can install an application called baobab, which will show you what files and directories take up the most space.
[12:56] <zetheroo> are there any other good file managers for Ubuntu with dual pane!?
[12:56] <snuggl> zetheroo: loads
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> jony: so how will you connect to vnc if you cannot connect to the SFTP server?
[12:57] <snuggl> zetheroo: i used gnome commander
[12:57] <zetheroo> ok
[12:57] <zetheroo> will check it out
[12:57] <howlymowly> PatrickDickey: I made a "not clean" upgrade to 13.04. by "not clean" I mean that I accidentally cancelled the upgrade progress before removing old packages
[12:57] <snuggl> its more like NC
[12:58] <PatrickDickey> howlymowly: So, you've got extra packages that you don't need? Or is there another problem with the install?
[12:58] <jony> ActionParsnip, one Lubuntu console from that network has internet connected via the second network card
[12:58] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, and the @define-color highlighted_border value will change the border
[12:58] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r,  @define-color theme_selected_fg_color is that the font color? the color is specified by a number, right? how do I know which number I need for my preferred color?
[12:58] <vnc786> after installing mini.iso how do i get GUI
[12:59] <PatrickDickey> jony: Does the server have an Internet connection?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: sudo apt-get install lxde     or:  sudo apt-get install xfce4   for something light. If you want the full Unity session: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:59]  * PatrickDickey realizes that sounds like an idiotic question....
[12:59] <l057c0d3r_> @define-color theme_selected_bg_color and this value in the theme will change the color of the actual hilight
[12:59] <jony> PatrickDickey, no, only an Lubuntu console has from that network on the second network card
[12:59] <vnc786> ActionParsnip:  i have done this installed(lightdm, ubuntu-desktop no recommends )
[12:59] <howlymowly> PatrickDickey: yeah I guess so...   I did "apt-get autoremove"  but that only removed 50 packages. but before the upgrade to 13.04 the upgrade process told me, ~300 packages are becoming obsolete
[12:59] <jony> m
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: ok then reboot and lightdm should kick up at startup
[13:00] <PatrickDickey> howlymowly: You could try sudo apt-get autoclean also.
[13:00] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, if you open a program like gimp..  or any image editing program
[13:00] <howlymowly> PatrickDickey: yeah did that too, already
[13:00] <l057c0d3r_> you can get the rgb numbers and or a hex number
[13:01] <l057c0d3r_> say for text when hilight change..  this is a hex example @define-color theme_selected_fg_color #ffffff;
[13:01] <l057c0d3r_> and this is a rgb example
[13:01] <PatrickDickey> howlymowly: Did the upgrade say that all 300 were being removed? I ask, because I had a different number for what was obsolete, and what it actually removed.
[13:01] <l057c0d3r_> @define-color theme_selected_fg_color rgb (255, 255, 255)
[13:01] <l057c0d3r_> both would give you the same color
[13:01] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: i am getting only tty1 when i reboot i am getting GUI(lightldm) login but not able to login
[13:01] <howlymowly> PatrickDickey: I don't remember the exact saying...
[13:02] <howlymowly> I was just wondering
[13:02] <PatrickDickey> jony: It sounds like you'll have to ssh into the lubuntu console, and then ssh from there into the other consoles.
[13:02] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, I can't find that string in my gtk.css. take a look if you like: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/168164/gtk.css
[13:02] <jony> PatrickDickey, but I can ssh without port forwarding?
[13:02] <Jamiem93> Is notepad++ available on Linux?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: try:   sudo service lightdm start
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: use gedit
[13:03] <Jamiem93> I don't like gedit :P
[13:03] <l057c0d3r_> this one right at top
[13:03] <howlymowly> PatrickDickey: I was just wondering of you could somehow analyze debian packages for the space they occupy in your system
[13:03] <l057c0d3r_> @define-color selected_fg_color #f5f5f5;
[13:03] <PatrickDickey> jony: no, you need to forward the ports used by ssh to the lubuntu console on the other network. Once you're in there, then yes you can ssh from it to whatever computer on that network you want to.
[13:03] <minas> I'm looking for a usb iso maker (I want to write windows iso on a usb within ubuntu)
[13:03] <l057c0d3r_> try changing that one firstr
[13:03] <zetheroo> hey guys... I just tried Sunflower and it's a great File Manager with dual pane and integrated terminal as well ... supports tabs too!! :D
[13:03] <Jamiem93> Is there a native version of npp without wine?
[13:03] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: already running
[13:04] <jony> PatrickDickey, ok, let's say that the portforwarding is done, what should I do next?
[13:04] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: i am not getting any tty except F1
[13:04] <PatrickDickey> howlymowly: I'm not sure. But, autoclean and autoremove should have taken care of the extra packages. You could try apt-get clean too.
[13:04] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r,  ah right, it's there without "theme_"
[13:04] <Jamiem93> @Patrick - thanks for your help, I got Ubuntu running again with Windows 7 as dual.
[13:05] <howlymowly> alright...  Thx PatrickDickey
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: try stopping it and starting it again, or try CTRL + ALT + F7
[13:05] <PatrickDickey> jony, you'll ssh into the lubuntu console. From there, you'll just ssh to whatever other computers you want. It's like a shell inside of a shell.
[13:05] <l057c0d3r_> would make a backup before you edit it though
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: could also try:  startx
[13:05] <l057c0d3r_> and that might not actually fix what you want
[13:05] <tjingboem> when i do: sudo chown -R menno berlijn i get: Operation not permitted. Why?
[13:05] <PatrickDickey> Jamiem93: I'm glad to hear that. :)
[13:05] <Jamiem93> Such a shame xp is being discontinued :(
[13:05] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, im kind of guessing on this one :-p looks right to me..  never edited a gtk theme..  just the gnome-shell.css but .css is .css so should be right
[13:06] <jony> PatrickDickey, can I access from my local browser the server's phpmyadmin page?
[13:06] <l057c0d3r_> Jamiem93, you play around with this long enough.. and there will be very few problems you run into that are not fixable...
[13:06] <Jamiem93> I'll play with it. I enjoy Ubuntu.
[13:07] <l057c0d3r_> i've got to the point with gnome-shell now where i'm just changing the stuff myself that i dont like about it..
[13:07] <PatrickDickey> jony: I'm going to say "No," since the server is not connected to the Internet. The closest you could do is a VNC server on the Lubuntu console, and use that to access the phpmyadmin page.
[13:07] <Jamiem93> Ubuntu with unity is quite sexy and shiny.
[13:07] <l057c0d3r_> a bit of a learning curve at first...  but after so long..  you start to see simularities between different parts of it
[13:08] <l057c0d3r_> Jamiem93, i have to admit the latest release of unity is must better then the first time i got my hands on it.. but still a gnome boy. cant help it
[13:08] <Jamiem93> Yeah. I never had a problem with it before I  messed up the MBR.
[13:08] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, I'm trying this one, made backup. I opened Gimp, but now how do I find the values for my preferred color? do I need to open an image file first?
[13:08] <jony> PatrickDickey, ty for help, but the solution remain the same
[13:08] <Jamiem93> I would have to say I prefer using the LDXE environment over unity.
[13:08] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, open a new one
[13:09] <compdoc> jony, yeah, I think they have been wasting your time
[13:09] <ssy> hi
[13:09] <bennypr0fane> ok
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: same, or just flux/openbox :)
[13:09] <l057c0d3r_> then click on the color change for the pen..
[13:09] <l057c0d3r_> u see the html notation box.. when you get the color u want..  that will be the hex code # code for that color
[13:09] <jony> compdoc, nono, I'm not that kind of guy
[13:09] <PatrickDickey> compdoc: how would you suggest accessing the phpmyadmin page of a non internet connected server, located on a network outside of your LAN?
[13:10] <jony> compdoc, only I hoped that there is a better solution than mine
[13:10] <ssy> ?
[13:10] <compdoc> PatrickDickey, he wanted vnc, which works for him
[13:10] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[13:10] <PatrickDickey> jony: Is there a reason why the server can't be connected to the Internet?
[13:10] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: thanks but i m doing clean installation again
[13:10] <l057c0d3r_> ActionParsnip, i remember my second linux system....  plane jane gentoo / fluxbox settup :-p
[13:10] <raddy> I updated ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04
[13:11] <raddy> 13.04 said to much faster
[13:11] <Jamiem93> Are you referring to a local web server?
[13:11] <raddy> But app startup in my case is slower
[13:11] <Jamiem93> Should I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?
[13:11] <jony> PatrickDickey, for security reason... it's not my decision :(
[13:11] <l057c0d3r_> my old old computer downstairs is running gentoo / openbox / lxde...  its kind of my toy i mess around on...  leave ubuntu gnome on my main.. because heh i love apt
[13:11] <ssy> is there any downloadable version of ubunto to install on m android phone ?
[13:11] <l057c0d3r_> and ubuntu has always been good to me
[13:11] <l057c0d3r_> most the time that is
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r_: fluxbox is the daddy
[13:11] <PatrickDickey> jony: Then your idea is the best solution. Using vnc.
[13:12] <DJones> !phone | ssy
[13:12] <l057c0d3r_> Jamiem93, i did.. and i regret it because of changes made to gnome-shell
[13:12] <l057c0d3r_> all my extensions broke.. and no updates for them yet...
[13:12] <Jamiem93> I might look into fluxbox :P
[13:12]  * PatrickDickey is using Lubuntu. No real changes that I've noticed between 12.04, 12,10, and 13.04
[13:12] <Jamiem93> Some very nice themes.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> PatrickDickey: i'd use squid with an ssh tunnel, far sleeker
[13:13] <l057c0d3r_> Jamiem93, fluxbox... openbox.. blackbox.. all about the same..  like openbox.. its good with lxde if you need a lightweight system
[13:13] <l057c0d3r_> although a fluxbox cairo-dock setup is nice as well
[13:13] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, I'm sorta only changing the background color, can't find where to change the pen color
[13:13] <Jamiem93> Playing with CSS? :P
[13:14] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, thats fine.. dosen't matter.. its the hex code you need anyway.. does not matter when you get it from
[13:14] <l057c0d3r_> as long as its the color u want
[13:14] <jony> PatrickDickey, for VNC I need portforwarding too?
[13:14] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, don't most shell extensions target 3.6 by now?
[13:14] <l057c0d3r_> yeah..
[13:14] <Jamiem93> I've never been a fan of hex myself, always preferred rgb/rgba.
[13:14] <l057c0d3r_> but gnome3-team is using 3.8 in ppa
[13:14] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r_, all I'm getting is some kind of grey :-P
[13:14] <l057c0d3r_> and well...  to lazy to purge and downgrade
[13:15] <l057c0d3r_> ?
[13:15] <l057c0d3r_> so color u selected did not show up
[13:15] <l057c0d3r_> Jamiem93, hex ff = 255..
[13:16] <l057c0d3r_> learned hex a long time ago...  good old gameshark :-p
[13:16] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, in the gimp menu, I click colors>colors/saturation right?
[13:16] <l057c0d3r_> i just opened gimp..  clicked file.. new..  create...
[13:16] <Jamiem93> Haha. I learnt hex from a chat site called Xat.
[13:16] <l057c0d3r_> then in the toolbox - tool  window.. clicked the black box ontop of the white one towards the bottom of that box.. should be in the middle..
[13:17] <l057c0d3r_> of the screen
[13:17] <raddy> Why ubuntu 13 is slower?
[13:17] <bennypr0fane> I'd just make it blcack or dark blue
[13:17] <l057c0d3r_> and then the chagne foreground color box pops up..
[13:18] <bennypr0fane> aaahh! there it is!
[13:18] <Jamiem93> Heard about the new xbox?
[13:19] <bennypr0fane> the "HTML Notation" is the code that I need?
[13:19] <pijush> just installed 13.04 ---->no ftp support in nautilus
[13:19] <l057c0d3r_> heh was going to say.. i uploaded a picture.  look where my mouse is :-p
[13:19] <l057c0d3r_> yeah thats the hex code
[13:19] <Jamiem93> What are you doing with HTML?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> pijush: are there any bugs reported?
[13:20] <bennypr0fane> lloks like this: 3a19e0
[13:20] <pijush> don't know
[13:20] <micthev> Hello everyone, my PC freezes since I'm on 13.04, I changed and updated the kernel, it does not come from there, I have an Intel graphics card, I do not have access to the magic key when it freezes (except ctrl alt back - but it crashes happened on the shell) so I do not have access to ctrl alt f1, f2 etc ... does anyone have an idea because it starts to get heavy hard reboot every 45 minutes!
[13:20] <l057c0d3r_> right  so behind the _color put #3a19e0;
[13:20] <pijush> i think they removed it
[13:21] <felon> can someone help me get my display detected in ubuntu 13.04.
[13:21] <PatrickDickey> jony for any solution that you use, you'll need to forward the required ports to the lubuntu console. yes.
[13:21] <l057c0d3r_> Jamiem93, he is altering a gtk theme..
[13:21] <Jamiem93> Oh.
[13:22] <jony> PatrickDickey, port forwarding is not allowed, so I must stick with LogMeIn Hamachi
[13:22] <l057c0d3r_> because selected color and background color were so close text was hard to read.
[13:22] <pijush> might b the problem of ftp server
[13:23] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, after u change and save.. restart the desktop environment.. or the computer
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> jony: Do you have logmein set on both networks? In other words, can you access the computers from this network through it?
[13:23] <l057c0d3r_> and change should take effect
[13:23] <g105b> I've generated a new SSH key, added it to github, but I keep getting the "Permission denied (publickey)" message - is there something I have to restart to pick up my new key?
[13:23] <l057c0d3r_> let me know how it work's out for u
[13:23] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, not sure what you are using.. but on gnome-shell an alt+f2..  type r.  press enter does the trick
[13:24] <jony> yes, the remote console with internet and my PC are in a VPN Logemein network
[13:24] <jony> yes, the remote console with internet and my PC are in the same VPN Logemein network
[13:24] <l057c0d3r_> wonder how hard it will be to port the bolt extension over to 3.8
[13:24] <micthev> nobody ?
[13:25] <PatrickDickey> jony: No guarantees, but you could have the VNC server listen on that same IP Interface (the one that's registered to LogMeIn). I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it would work or not. Then connect through that IP Address.
[13:25] <l057c0d3r_> micthev, sorry..  any idea what is causing the crash..
[13:25] <l057c0d3r_> what shows up in /var/crash/
[13:25] <micthev> l057c0d3r, that's the problem ... :(
[13:25] <l057c0d3r_> if there is a lot in there...  then do a sudo rm /var/crash/*
[13:26] <l057c0d3r_> and next time it crashes..  that crash should be the only thing in the log..
[13:26] <jony> PatrickDickey, ty for the help
[13:27] <leolove> Hi
[13:27] <leolove> Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe it works on boot for 15 minutes only and then disconnect.
[13:27] <leolove> Ubuntu 13.04
[13:27] <PatrickDickey> jony, not a problem. You're a bit luckier than I am. My router won't accept the IP Address or range for the LogMeIn Hamachi network. So I can't connect to it from outside of my LAN. Of course, I haven't really put a lot of effort into solving the problem.
[13:27] <leolove> I can even unable to find my wifi sitting next to it
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> leolove: when it drops, run: dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[13:28] <l057c0d3r_> bennypr0fane, still there.. how'd it go
[13:28] <micthev> l057c0d3r, ok maybe
[13:28] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, 1b26f6 what color is that in your gimp?
[13:28] <l057c0d3r_> one sec
[13:29] <micthev> l057c0d3r,  I remove all in crash and I wait
[13:29] <l057c0d3r_> blue
[13:29] <bennypr0fane> it should be a dark blue, but now appears grey in the theme.
[13:29] <l057c0d3r_> almost a sky blue
[13:29] <bennypr0fane> however, it's readable now! :-)
[13:29] <l057c0d3r_> hmm
[13:29] <l057c0d3r_> wonder why its gray
[13:29] <bennypr0fane> sky blue means rather light, yes?
[13:30] <l057c0d3r_> well..  its in the middle
[13:30] <l057c0d3r_> not really dark dark..
[13:30] <l057c0d3r_> but no extreamly light
[13:30] <bennypr0fane> might be whtie actually, and just appears grey bcs surrounded by greyish blue
[13:31] <l057c0d3r_> i believe with the .css u could have type Blue or DarkBlue
[13:31] <l057c0d3r_> and that would work to..
[13:31] <l057c0d3r_> but was trying to give you the option to get the exact color u wanted :p
[13:31] <jean11> now that we longer can change mouse settings properly, do i have to do xset m 3.1 15 every time i boot??
[13:32] <jony> PatrickDickey, I never meet that problem
[13:32] <jean11> i couldnt find mouse settings in dconf either
[13:32] <leolove> ActionParsnip it works if I reboot or reconnect wifi
[13:32] <l057c0d3r_> well brb..
[13:32] <PatrickDickey> jony: it's because I'm using an enterprise grade router (Cisco 2514) for my network.
[13:32] <l057c0d3r_> been changing a lot of stuff....  going to see how well it works after a reboot
[13:33] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/1050021
[13:33] <Jamiem93> I have another issue. Running post-installation trigger was updating and has crashed Ubuntu.
[13:33] <Jamiem93> The screen is black and I can't move my cursor.
[13:34] <jamiejackson> hi, folks. can you tell me the right way to install the gnome 2 desktop? i'm about to try mate, instead. (i'm on 12.10)
[13:34] <invariant> How am I supposed to manage extra directories containing manpages?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | jamiejackson you mean this?
[13:35] <iDrofox> hello, i install compizcofig... to get cube desktop but i want to set different wallpapers for each section in cube anybody know how to do it ? i am on 13.04
[13:35] <jamiejackson> let me try that again: hi, folks. can you tell me the right way to UNinstall the gnome 2 desktop? i'm about to try mate, instead. (i'm on 12.10)
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  45+ people in #compiz
[13:36] <iDrofox> ok thanks i didn't that there is channel for that too :)
[13:36] <l057c0d3r> hmm   rather odd....
[13:36] <l057c0d3r> reboot.. login and the top window border is white..  everything else gray
[13:37] <l057c0d3r> but do a shell restart
[13:37] <l057c0d3r> and then it changes to match wonder why
[13:38] <micthev> l057c0d3r, /var/crash is empty :(
[13:39] <Jamiem93> Ubuntu is no longer loading, hangs at purple screen :(
[13:39] <micthev> has somobody a solution ?
[13:40] <PaNz> hello!
[13:40] <PaNz> anyone can help me plz?
[13:40] <jean11> How do i disable the "mail" icon from top right? its useless since it doesnt restore previous session but starts another
[13:40] <l057c0d3r> hey bennypr0fane u still there
[13:40] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, thanks a lot. It's not *exactly* what I wanted, but almost there - definitley good enough for now! And I'm on track now for more tweaking, which is awesome! thanks so much. Do submit that theme to the developer
[13:41] <compdoc> jamiejackson, you can just add mate or any desktop with no need to remove the existing one
[13:41] <PaNz> I've this error: http://pastebin.com/3Kj3ZcS5
[13:41] <PaNz> any suggestion?
[13:41] <invariant> Does anyone know how to manage mandb such that I can install every package in a different directory and at the same time not go over the limits of man for the MANPATH *and* have mandb automatically index these directories *and* do all of this as a non-root user?It's a mouthful, but that's what I ideally want. If you know some solution, please tell me or suggest the ways in which you manage these things.
[13:41] <l057c0d3r> bennypr0fane, check this out
[13:41] <bennypr0fane> I think Gnome Shell can very much use4 some lighter themes and flexibility to improve on looks
[13:42] <jamiejackson> compdoc: thanks. is it a bad idea to remove the (proper) gnome 2? i'd like it gone, if it's not too problematic.
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> PaNz  what's the output of cat /etc/issue ?
[13:42] <jean11> a
[13:42] <PaNz> ubuntu 13.04
[13:42] <l057c0d3r> check out my gnom3
[13:42] <l057c0d3r> http://i42.tinypic.com/6yf80m.png
[13:42] <ncopa> hi congrats with 13.04
[13:42] <compdoc> jamiejackson, it can be a problem depending on how you do it. Ive ended up with no desktop at all - just a command prompt
[13:43] <l057c0d3r> let me know what u think bennypr0fane
[13:43] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> PaNz  that's not a copy paste, but anyway - what are you trying to do?
[13:43] <ncopa> will 13.04 run on a netbook with only 1 GB ram? 12.04 does, 12.10 didnt
[13:43] <PaNz> I've just installed some app in my distro
[13:43] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, looks pretty good. cool wallpaper, wher'd you get it?
[13:44] <jamiejackson_> compdoc: so you're saying it's too risky?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> !details | PaNz
[13:44] <l057c0d3r> bennypr0fane, gnome-look.org
[13:44] <compdoc> jamiejackson_, might be fine, but it would be a good idea to create a backup image
[13:44] <PaNz> and this message was appear
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> ncopa: lubuntu will give a snappier OS
[13:45] <PaNz> I've this error now, for example, when I give: dpkg-reconfigure gconf2
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:45] <PaNz> raring
[13:45] <ncopa> ActionParsnip: i know. so will xubuntu and 20 other distros. But this is for wife's netbook...
[13:45] <jamiejackson_> compdoc: okay, with that in mind, what's the proper package(s) to remove to get rid of the old gnome 2?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> ncopa: lxde is very windows like with a nice bottom bar
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      and pastebin the output http://pastie.org
[13:46] <compdoc> jamiejackson_, might try:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[13:46] <l057c0d3r> xfce is windows like in a way as well..  along with kde..  and cinnamon
[13:47] <l057c0d3r> then u get gnome and unity.. which are osx like
[13:47] <PaNz> all messages or only the lasts lines?
[13:47] <jamiejackson_> compdoc: i believe unity is gnome *3*
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> there was something in lxde I disliked, don't remember what, but yes it's fast
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: all the text please, the pastebin holds a LOT of output
[13:47] <compdoc> jamiejackson_, what version is your ubuntu?
[13:47] <l057c0d3r> jamiejackson_, i should refine there..  unity-shell and gnome-shell..
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> or gnome-panel :)
[13:48] <ncopa> ActionParsnip: i know pretty weel what lxde xfce difference, the question was if the default ubuntu desktop will work with 1G ram
[13:48] <ncopa> my wife does not want change that look
[13:48] <ncopa> i think she should
[13:48] <ncopa> but she done want
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> ncopa: it may, it won't leave a lot of free ram for actual apps
[13:48] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, gnome-look.org is where I got all my customizations. It's just I like light themes better, and don't fancy grey and black. rather hard to find a grey.free theme, and most stuff is basically dark
[13:48] <ncopa> dont*
[13:48] <PaNz> http://pastebin.com/TZCSCDct
[13:48] <jamiejackson_> compdoc: 12.10. i just found this. it might be what i need: http://askubuntu.com/questions/244654/remove-ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[13:48] <PaNz> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/TZCSCDct
[13:48] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, here's my desktop: https://bennypr0fane.trovebox.com/p/9/token-924f8a6290
[13:49] <Slaizer> hi all, is there any way to upload videos to ubuntuone-client?
[13:49] <shasha> sorry guys, how can I say terminal to launch a file as a program?
[13:49] <l057c0d3r> Slaizer, as long as the video's are in a folder that is synced with ubuntuone.. they should upload.. unless u run out of space
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: try switching to the main server ,the output looks fine otherwise
[13:50] <PaNz> what did you mean?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> shasha: type the program name, then the file to open in that app
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> shasha  use ./blah  or sh blah
[13:50] <shasha> sorry guys, how can I say terminal to launch a file as a program?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: you are using the italian server, switch to the main one, you can use software centre if you want
[13:50] <ncopa> the gui is sluggish in qemu/kvm...
[13:50] <bennypr0fane> l057c0d3r, the spaces between the sections of yr to panel are a nice touch.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> shasha: do you mean use terminal to run a program in CLI?
[13:51] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: I got to check this, because I uploaded files in .avi and just the srt file uploaded. I have double checked this also. what am I doing wrong when uploading the folder?
[13:51] <bennypr0fane> shasha you need to make that file executable if it's not yet
[13:51] <shasha> ActionParsnip: i've downloaded the kernel
[13:51] <shasha> ActionParsnip: and wish to launch kconfig
[13:51] <PaNz> uhh, ActionParsnip what's the main one?
[13:51] <bennypr0fane> if it is, you just enter the file complete with path and hit enter
[13:51] <l057c0d3r> Slaizer, i can lok into it a bit.. i dont upload video's
[13:51] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: I also have space, just a 700 mb file and I have 4700 mb to use.
[13:52] <Slaizer> l057
[13:52] <l057c0d3r> i use it to sync my pictures from my phone to my computer.. i take a picture on my phone.. and within seconds its on my computer
[13:52] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: appreciate it
[13:52] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: ok!
[13:52] <leolove> Hi
[13:53] <shasha> ActionParsnip: i've set the executable flash, also
[13:53] <frowny> Hey leolove
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: its selectable in software centre, or you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all instances of 'it.'
[13:53] <leolove> Wifi disconnecting and have to restart network-manager to get it work again. it keeps disconnecting time after time
[13:53] <leolove> My syslog and dmesg is : http://pastebin.com/rTDFrh8t
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> shasha: then open a terminal and run it...
[13:53] <leolove> Wifi adapter: Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[13:53] <shasha> ActionParsnip: run kconfig ?
[13:53] <PaNz> ok ActionParsnip, just a second
[13:54] <shasha> ActionParsnip: "run kconfig" from terminal?
[13:54] <leolove> ActionParsnip my syslog and dmesg is :
[13:54] <leolove> http://pastebin.com/rTDFrh8t
[13:54] <Iszak> So, should I use MBR or GPT?
[13:55] <PaNz> ActionParsnip, same that before with the main repository
[13:55] <bhavesh> How am I supposed to create a DSL network on Ubuntu 13.04 in gnome shell?
[13:55] <compdoc> Iszak, depends on the size of the disk and the capabilities of your motherboard
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> shasha: just kconfig will do, if you are asking basic stuff like this, you wll struggle to compile an efective kernel
[13:56] <ncopa> wow... i think ubuntu-13.04 actually works with 1G ram
[13:56] <ncopa> god job!
[13:56] <ncopa> good*
[13:56] <l057c0d3r> Slaizer, found this http://markmail.org/message/oiphrkyfgsdxz36k
[13:56] <Iszak> compdoc only 500 GB, but I'm finding the tools seem to want GPT. I've installed ubuntu 12.04 and need to setup raid.
[13:56] <compdoc> 13.04 seems faster than the older versions
[13:56] <l057c0d3r> they said it was a bug sometimes
[13:56] <leolove> Please help me with my wifi :(
[13:57] <l057c0d3r> something to do with pmtu
[13:57] <compdoc> Iszak, nothing wrong with gpt, but you cant boot it unless your bios is UEFI
[13:57] <PaNz> ActionParsnip, I've also try to do this: apt-get install --reinstall gconf2, but nope, the situation is the same: I've always this error
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> leolove: try disabling ipv6 with the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !info gconf2 raring
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> really? wow!
[13:58] <leolove> ActionParsnip I use IPv6 actually :(
[13:58] <shasha> ActionParsnip: i've used some years ago linux, up to now all is foggle but i know it
[13:58] <Iszak> compdoc ah okay
[13:59] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: seems like it isn't possible uploading .avi files or too big files on the cloud. My 50 mb flac music files were no problem.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | shasha
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> leolove: i see
[13:59] <l057c0d3r> Slaizer, check here
[13:59] <shasha> ActionParsnip: and?
[13:59] <l057c0d3r> ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[14:00] <l057c0d3r> are there any errors in there
[14:00] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: will see
[14:00] <Iszak> how can I copy one hard drives partition table (MBR) to anothers with overriding the others (GPT)?
[14:00] <leolove> ActionParsnip it works fine with ethernet
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> leolove: Ethernet is an entirely different animal
[14:01] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: how do i find that .log file? could you give me some extra information?
[14:02] <l057c0d3r> in term type gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[14:02] <PaNz> ActionParsnip, any ideas?
[14:02] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: ok
[14:02] <l057c0d3r> replace gedit with the text editer u use if u dont have gedit
[14:03] <loreste> hey guys
[14:03] <loreste> how are you?
[14:04] <loreste> I need a little help here
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: cd $HOME; wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[14:05] <PaNz> what's this stuff?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: cleans out any and all package knowledge then redownloads fresh, its basically the package fix commands in a handy script
[14:08] <Senor> what is acpi driver?
[14:08] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: the .log file is blank. I even tried the way you suggsted, that one that told me to type in terminal.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> PaNz: I'm just lazy, and I use it a lot in the forums. Maks my life easier
[14:08] <usr13_> ActionParsnip: I think it should be chmod +x fixpackage  (not chmod +x ./fixpackage
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> usr13_: the ./ makes it look in the pwd, just neater imho
[14:09] <frowny> Has anyone had any luck running Vegas Pro under Ubuntu?
[14:09] <PaNz> ok I try, but I don't think that this stuff solves the problem..
[14:09] <Jamiem93> Why has ubuntu crashed completely?
[14:09] <frowny> With Wine or otherwise
[14:09] <Iszak> should I create raid with /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> frowny: did you check the wineappdb
[14:09] <usr13_> ActionParsnip: Really? pwd?
[14:09] <frowny> I'll have a look now
[14:09] <frowny> GOod idea
[14:10] <nomius> Hello...
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> usr13_: yes, its just good practice to use when you are referencing things in the same folder
[14:10] <usr13_> Ok,  tnx
[14:10] <nomius> Is it there a way to substitute a core package (procps in my case) with one in my local repo?
[14:11] <nomius> (without corrupting the package db of course)
[14:11] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: are you still here?
[14:11] <PaNz> ActionParsnip, after this script's running, no errors appear, but when I try "dpkg-reconfigure gconf2" the message reappears
[14:12] <min|dvir|us> Is there any way to have the webcam available to multiple programs at once?
[14:12] <usr13_> ActionParsnip: I see now that it works.  But what do you mean by pwd?  (I assume the wd os for working directory, but p?)
[14:12] <Jamiem93> Parsnip?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> usr13_: run:   pwd
[14:13] <Jamiem93> If ubuntu fails to boot and sits on the purple screen for an hour, what do I do?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: that is such an open ended question, it could be anything
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: what video chip do you use?
[14:13] <Jamiem93> I wouldn't know, it's an old laptop.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> usr13_: it shows the current directory the terminal is sat in
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: then it has a make and model, yes?
[14:13] <Jamiem93> I was updating the software, i think it was post-install trigger and it crashed.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jamiem93: and you have an internet connection........
[14:14] <usr13_> ActionParsnip: Ok, well, I guess I'm kdnda dense this morning.
[14:14] <Jamiem93> Yes.
[14:14] <Jamiem93> I believe it's the GMA x3100.
[14:14] <min|dvir|us> Is there any way to have the webcam available to multiple programs at once?
[14:15] <JeanBaptiste> i installed compizconfig but there is no wobbly windows option???
[14:16] <shasha> ActionParsnip: i used make config ad seems to work
[14:16] <Jamiem93> Should I try reinstalling ubuntu?
[14:17] <Slaizer> anyone in here know if it is possible uploading 'avi' files on ubuntuone-client?
[14:18] <loldog> Slaizer: lol, why woulndt it?
[14:18] <loldog> Slaizer: also .avi isnt a type of file
[14:18] <Slaizer> loldog: LOL, it wouldn't because it did not work for me, rofl.
[14:19] <anew> how do i get stderr output ?
[14:21] <loldog> Slaizer: Boicot the service
[14:23] <Slaizer> loldog: shrug
[14:23] <l057c0d3r> Slaizer, did u find any errors in that log i told u to check
[14:23] <loldog> Slaizer: I run owncloud on an ubuntu server. Much better, and then I know they arent selling my files to Amazon.
[14:24] <Slaizer> l057c0d3r: no i did not find anything in that .log file
[14:24] <usr13_> anew: Of _________________?
[14:24] <shasha> ActionParsnip: where i can find a map of kernel? (please tag me in reply)
[14:25] <anew> fk i have no idea so fkn frustrated
[14:25] <cowen> hey
[14:26] <cowen> 13.04 - where has the nice menu gone to connect to another server from the file manager?
[14:26] <HelloWorld321> anybody got much opinion on gitg versus qgit as a git repository gui?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> cowen: under file menu if memory serves
[14:26] <branch> hey gys
[14:27] <branch> i have a problem with ubuntu
[14:27] <HelloWorld321> Hi branch.  We have a "don't ask to ask" policy in here. But I do recommend: don't describe your problem, try to ask a specific technical question
[14:27] <Sub-Zero_> trackpad issue 12.10?
[14:28] <usr13_> anew: What are you trying to do?
[14:28] <cowen> ActionParsnip, yeah found it, the nice quick interface has gone.. but this works
[14:28] <branch> my ubuntu 12.04 crashes..it blurs purple and gets stuck//i dont notice any cpu overload
[14:29] <ShawnMcCool> any ubuntu 13.04 users here who can very that ctrl + alt + p reduces a minimized window to a non minimized window?
[14:31] <usr13_> branch: Is it a Desktop PC?
[14:32] <branch> usr13_: yes it is , i had a 12.4 lts then reinstalled
[14:33] <Darael-webchat> Here's one for you, #ubuntu:  Got a new laptop that appears to support UEFI, and will happily boot, eg, an Ubuntu live USB key in UEFI mode.  However, if I install to the HDD, it refuses to recognise it as a UEFI boot option (but if I install and then boot all in BIOS mode it works fine).  Secure boot is disabled.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> cowen: never had an issue, add it as a bookmark and you have easy days
[14:36] <Sub-Zero_> Touchpad issue pointer moment is not smooth?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Sub-Zero_: does the system have a make and model?
[14:38] <nighix> 3.6.3.1 is an unholy mess :\ Nautilus crashing with large directories on Fedora and Ubuntu, and random crashes with Ivy Bridge hardware. Not happy :[
[14:38] <anew> usr13_ the guy before me has rewrites everywhere, i'm trying to figure it all out.  in exactly what files can rewrites occur ?
[14:39] <Sub-Zero_> macbook pro core2Duo
[14:40] <exilarch> Greetings. I have a problem with 13.04. I installed some webapps from the terminal but I cannot see the launcher in the HUD. I installed only the Youtube webapp via the website and it appears. However the others do not appear as launchers.
[14:41] <nighix> I have a website due in two days and I just hopped to Ubuntu because I thought it would fix the 3.6.3.1 crashing.. but no, I have an unstable shell.
[14:46] <anew> the file i think i have that is for the site, they are the exact same contents in sites-available and sites-enabled, is this proper ?
[14:49] <gian__> good moning frends
[14:50] <niervol> anew: in 'sites-enabled' you should have a symbolic links to enabled sites from 'sites-available'.
[14:50] <anew> niervol they are exactly the same files
[14:50] <anew> i am looking at what the guy previous did
[14:51] <anew> are they not supposed to be the same files
[14:51] <niervol> those can be exact same files or just links
[14:51] <anew> so if i want to edit one which one do i edit ?
[14:52] <niervol> good practise is to keep files in 'sites-available' and then create links in 'sites-enabled' as needed
[14:53] <niervol> normally you should edit files in 'sites-available', but apache takes files from 'sites-enabled' into account
[14:53] <anew> ok
[14:53] <anew> so confusing
[14:53] <niervol> files from 'sites-available' are only linked
[14:53] <anew> i dont get what u mean by linked ?
[14:54] <niervol> read this: http://serverfault.com/questions/83508/purpose-of-debian-sites-available-and-sites-enabled-dirs
[14:56] <butch128> I'm setting up a server which 2 ethernet ports.  They will be directly on the internet with external IP's.  The server hasn't been deployed yet, but right now I have the adapters bonded for in failover mode... Will this setup work in production?  Or should I do something like a floating virtual IP between the two adapters?
[14:57] <anew> niervol the last answer It's not just the same content, it's the same actual file!
[14:57] <anew> they are the same file
[14:57] <niervol> anew: are your files in 'sites-enabled' prefixed with '@' sign? that means those are links to some other files. do ls -l
[14:57] <mar_> i remove -purged unity and installed it back but the taskbar still doesn't display when I log in? How can I debug this? (l057c0d3r)
[14:58] <niervol> in 'sites-available'
[14:58] <niervol> ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[14:58] <wwwww> hi
[14:58] <anew> ok let me try
[14:59] <Zelator> hi folks.
[14:59] <Zelator> i'd like to know why is linux video output is different than windows?
[14:59] <anew> oh that's crazy
[14:59] <anew> but what is the point of this?
[15:00] <Zelator> and no, it's not distro related or videocard related or anything.. it's always the same. I have probs with eye strain every time i'm on linux.
[15:00] <anew> so when i edit something why wouldnt i edit both files ?
[15:00] <andreb> morning all
[15:00] <Shadal> Hi, not sure if anyone will have any suggestions for me, but worth a shot.... I'm on a Linode VPS, recently ran an apt-update/apt-upgrade and rebooted my server. Now when booting my LISH console displays (http://pastebin.com/Vh35sYHD) and won't go any further. My server will not boot, websites are down, etc, etc... Anyone have any ideas I could pass along to linode support should they fail to
[15:00] <Shadal> find a solution?
[15:00] <andreb> question : Is it possible to delete a file every day at midnight ?
[15:00] <Zelator> and it happens on LCD monitors. All kinds, regardless of brand, size etc
[15:00] <Zelator> any ideas?
[15:00] <garrick_> fuck
[15:01] <Zelator> it's something you can't really see, you only feel it. After 15-30 of work you can't stare at the screen anymore.
[15:01] <niervol> the point is: you can have a site in place which you DON'T want to enable atm. file exists and all you'll have to do to enable it in the future is to create a link i n'sites-enabled'. and the other way. if you want temporarily disable site, just delete the link
[15:01] <garrick_> your cool
[15:02] <niervol> anew: you actually do
[15:02] <niervol> i have to go
[15:02] <niervol> bye
[15:02] <anew> thanks niervol
[15:07] <garrick_> anyone
[15:07] <anew> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7da8eb84cbb2b551f0b1  so the first one removes all index.php from urls.  it works.  but when i add the last 2 lines, this is supposed to make uppercase 301 to lowercase.  the problem is if i write site.com/Segment it 301s to site.com/index.php/segment.  it should do site.com/Segment -> site.com/segment
[15:09] <garrick_> is anyone going to talk to me
[15:09] <hd5770> sup
[15:09] <hd5770> ?
[15:09] <Tm_T> garrick_: please patience and try be civil while being at it
[15:10] <garrick_> can i talk on mic
[15:11] <hd5770> on mirc?? dont thinkm you can
[15:11] <garrick_> bye
[15:11] <pndemc_> rofl
[15:11] <aneks> lol
[15:12] <min|dvir|us> This is literally the worst IRC discussion.
[15:12] <min|dvir|us> What just happened.
[15:12] <pndemc_> quite possibly
[15:12] <pndemc_> someone just asked if they could use their mic <_<
[15:12] <garrick_> how are you
[15:13] <ZadYree> Hey, I've got a little problem using Ubuntu: It seems when a process segfaults, I'm getting any core (even after changine the core size to 'unlimited'). Any clue?
[15:13] <ZadYree> I meant "I'm not"
[15:14] <min|dvir|us> ZadYree: rephrase please.
[15:15] <ZadYree> I'm not getting any dumped core after a segmentation fault, wheter I type "ulimit -c unlimited" or not.
[15:22] <Shadal> Linode support solved my boot problem - Highly recommend for VPS hosting!
[15:22] <noiro> hey guys, is there a different version of skype for 13.04?
[15:23] <noiro> skype just stopped working after my comp force-shutdown. I purged it and then reinstalled with no luck
[15:24] <noiro> it just won't open
[15:24] <Mavrik> noiro, theres a bug with skype and nvidia drivers on 13.04
[15:24] <noiro> :/ Any known fix?
[15:25] <invariant> noiro, just install Jitsi.
[15:25] <Mathuin> Anyone here familiar with vino on 12.04?  I'm having trouble starting it automatically, and when I do get it started I can't connect to it.
[15:25] <invariant> noiro, and say goodbye to Skype.
[15:25] <Mavrik> noiro, yeah: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:25] <noiro> I need to use Skype for who I talk to. :P
[15:25] <invariant> noiro, you can tell them to not use Skype too.
[15:27] <noiro> Mavrik: thanks, works like a charm
[15:27] <eodchop> Hey guys. I have a 12.10 server installation. When I go to install mailtutils, it is dragging in a new version of mysql-common that is from 13.04, forcing a system update to 13.04. Is this a bug, any way around it?
[15:29] <Gegabone> Hi Guys, can't anyone tell me how to fix this? http://imgur.com/MVyN4Tu
[15:30] <Iszak> So I'm using fdisk and it says my partition is GPT, however I don't know how to change it to MBR?
[15:30] <Gegabone> upgraded my OS on VirtualBox and now can't read anything as the terminal is tiny text
[15:30] <theadmin> Iszak: Don't bother, GPT is superior. Use parted (or gdisk) for operations on GPT partition tables.
[15:31] <Iszak> theadmin okay well how do I convert both then?
[15:31] <Iszak> theadmin on the other hand, I don't know if it is UEFI..
[15:32] <theadmin> Iszak: That's an important part too. But GPT is still better (works with large drives, can support more than 4 primary partitions)
[15:33] <Fyodorovna> Gegabone, YOU have the guest additions installed?
[15:34] <platzhirsch1> How can I make sure the package I want to install is either in the right version and/or fetched from the right repository?
[15:34] <Gegabone> I think I might have to reinstall as reading online it seems that by upgrading they no longer work
[15:37] <Gegabone> bit hard to do as can't read the text thout
[15:37] <Iszak> theadmin oh yeah I recognise the benefits, just need to make sure I can.
[15:37] <Gegabone> hmmm
[15:38] <Iszak> theadmin no UEFI.
[15:38] <theadmin> Iszak: It doesn't really matter, you can use GPT with BIOS too I think
[15:39] <Iszak> theadmin well I think easiest is to just use MBR for now.
[15:40] <satellit_e> what command do i use to install gnome-classic-session on precise?
[15:48] <tomreyn> is there a proper (i.e. no application workarounds, but a driver option or patch) fix for uvcvideo output being flipped vertically (upside down)?
[15:50] <theadmin> satellit_e: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[15:50] <satellit_e> thanks
[15:50] <thebananafish> good morning errybody, Im trying to get mumble-django to work with nginx and cannot find any documentation on how to do so?
[15:52] <wdennis> hi, all -- is this the place to ask q's about virtualization, or better chan? #ubuntu-virt only 13 users right now... Doesn't seem too active.
[15:55] <theadmin> wdennis: Well, depends. What are you trying to do?
[15:56] <Tatuus> I'm unable to get Unity desktop showing...  Ub 13.04. No launcher or anything around. unity plugin on ccsm is on... Any help?
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> Tatuus, Fresh install an upgrade, has it worked before what is the graphic hardware, we need details.
[16:01] <wdennis> theadmin: trying to figure out what is the current best tool to build vms with: ubuntu-vm-builder (deprecated?), vmbuilder, virt-install, virt-manager, ??
[16:02] <Tatuus> Wilee-nilee: i did an upgrade, it has worked on 12.10 yes, i have older ATI card, radeon
[16:03] <Tatuus> i noticed that on other machines where i did fresh, clean install, this hasn't occured
[16:03] <przemek__> what are you doing>
[16:03] <wilee-nilee> Tatuus, Have you looked in software sources for additional drivers or reloaded any you had previously, an release upgrade needs drivers reloaded often.
[16:04] <przemek__> just install everything
[16:04] <Tatuus> on software sources, the appropriatery drivers list is empty
[16:04] <Tatuus> so how can i reach those drivers ?
[16:05] <leolove> http://pastebin.com/6jRrAbrF Can anyone help me with my wifi keeps disconnecting and only work if I restart network-manager ?
[16:06] <przemek__> Tatuus: which driver you are looking for?
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> Tatuus, Post the graphic info here, personally I would be looking on the web as well for info on that vard and release in general.
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> card*
[16:06] <sruli> hi all, can anyone help me with SSLVPN? i am trying to connect using openconnect but it gives me an error "The VPN connection 'xxxxxxx' failed failed to connect because there were no VPN secrets, from my android with cisco anyconnect it works fine, any ideas?
[16:07] <Tatuus> Ati radeon Xpress 1250
[16:07] <johnjohn101> when does 10.04LTS support end?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: May 5th I believe
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: on the desktop
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has it all
[16:09] <fede> Hi, I have a problem with graphics on ubuntu, I thinks it's a configuration issue because it only happens when I login as one user
[16:09] <leolove> http://pastebin.com/6jRrAbrF Can anyone help me with my wifi keeps disconnecting and only work if I restart network-manager ?
[16:10] <fede> the screen goes black and I cannot use the system, how can I restore default xorg settings so this doesn't happen anymore?
[16:11] <sruli> this is the CLI output when I try to connect with openconnect to SSLVPN from CLI http://pastebin.com/YUcnyecf
[16:12] <leolove> fede which card do you have?
[16:13] <fede> nvidia gforce
[16:13] <fede> it was working ok until I changed to the experimental driver
[16:13] <chin-chan> hi
[16:14] <fede> then it broke and even reinstalling the system doesn't solve the problem
[16:14] <leolove> fede press ctrl + alt +F1 key when you see black screen. Login at command prompt, and check your /etc/X11 folders for backed up xorg.conf file
[16:14] <przemek__> fede: lspci -v
[16:15] <sruli> can anyone help me with my openconnect issue trying to connect to SSLVPN?
[16:15] <leolove> sruli it is your bad configuration file redirecting client to a html page
[16:15] <leolove> sruli it is your bad configuration file redirecting client to a html page
[16:15] <leolove> http://pastebin.com/6jRrAbrF Can anyone help me with my wifi keeps disconnecting and only work if I restart network-manager ?
[16:15] <fede> what should I look for? remember this is user specific
[16:15] <sruli> leolove: pc side or router side?
[16:15] <fede> if I login as another user I don't have any issues
[16:16] <chin-chan> good day
[16:16] <przemek__> fede: install Linux Mint
[16:16] <chin-chan> i love linux
[16:16] <chin-chan> i hate windows
[16:16] <fede> przemek, that's not a solution
[16:16] <betrayd> fede: you use startx?
[16:17] <anonymous_cyberh> i am  news
[16:17] <leolove> sruli your PC side.
[16:17] <fede> betrayd, I'm not sure, if I run startx I get the black screen
[16:17] <sruli> leolove: can you help me get it right?
[16:18] <betrayd> fede: you said another user doesn't have this problem
[16:18] <leolove> sruli which provider are you using?
[16:18] <simon-mcc> join #cbu
[16:18] <leolove> is it your own server?
[16:18] <Shadal> Can anyone help me with this Postfix error (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140348). The postfix channel recommended I try elsewhere ;-/ ......
[16:18] <fede> betrayd, yes, I created a new user from the console and the system works
[16:18] <sruli> i setup SSLVPN on my cisco 550 router
[16:18] <fede> it's only with my old and main user that I have the problem
[16:18] <sruli> leolove: i setup SSLVPN on my cisco 550 router
[16:18] <Mrokii> Hi. What is the command to recreate the grub-menu via Bash?
[16:19] <betrayd> fede: i'd start copying his data over and ditch that one
[16:19] <Dr_willis> Mrokii,  sudo update-grub   normally
[16:19] <leolove> sruli can you use cisco vpn client to verify?
[16:20] <Dr_willis> fede,  could be one of the user settings is the issue. you could clean out all the old settings
[16:20] <chro> hi, anyone can tell me a good browser (after chrome/chromium,firefox) ?
[16:20] <fede> Dr_willis, how can I do that?
[16:20] <leolove> sruli my personal experience is, it wont work. but that is just my personal opinion
[16:20] <chro> and that is available from the standard repos
[16:20] <leolove> chro safari? :p IE in wine? :D
[16:20] <Dr_willis> fede,  find the setting files. remove or rename them to a backup dirr
[16:20] <sruli> leolove: on my android tablet I use cisco AnyCOnnect client, but on my pc cant get it to work.. cisco says they only sopport kernel 2.6xx
[16:21] <fede> Dr_willis, any idea where this file could be?
[16:21] <chro> leolove, safari is available from the repos?
[16:21] <leolove> chro it is available separate download and will run via wine
[16:22] <leolove> sruli I never tried that but take a look at : https://www.shrew.net
[16:22] <Tatuus> wilee_nilee: i now got the driver file ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run -but can't open it as executable program, nor from terminal with command sh ./ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run
[16:22] <fede> I think the problem is with xorg configuration for that user, because it also changes my resolution
[16:22] <betrayd> chro watch him
[16:22] <chro> betrayd, what?
[16:22] <betrayd> spammer
[16:22] <sruli> leolove: when u say it wont work do u mean I wont be able to connect from ubuntu to sslvpn?
[16:22] <DJones> !browser | chro Best thing you can do is try each one out and use the one that works best for your own needs,
[16:23] <Mrokii> Dr_willis: Thanks, that was what I was looking for.
[16:23] <w30> Midori is touted as a light weight browser
[16:23] <Dr_willis> fede,  user settings are in various . files in their home. .config id a directory full of them. start by renameing that to   .config.backup and log out/back in
[16:23] <leolove> sruli that means openvpn and cisco ssl are incompatible with each other. You cannot expect openvpn client to connect to cisco ssl vpn
[16:23] <Dr_willis> fede,  also check that your .Xauthoity file is owned by your user
[16:23] <leolove> sruli are you using ubuntu which version?
[16:24] <sruli> 12.04
[16:24] <Dr_willis> bbl
[16:24] <leolove> sruli open software center and search for "openconnect"
[16:24] <sruli> leolove: 12.04 but have same issues with 12.10
[16:24] <leolove> it is cisco anyconnect client
[16:24] <fede> ok, thanks Dr_willis I'll try that
[16:24] <sruli> leolove: i have openconnect installed, tried with it
[16:25] <chro> thanks
[16:25] <leolove> does work sruli?
[16:25] <leolove> Who is going to help me with my wifi? :p
[16:26] <fede> ok, that worked, thanks, now I have to copy the config files I want to restore right?
[16:26] <sruli> leolove: no, ...cli output http://pastebin.com/YUcnyecf
[16:27] <betrayd> fede be careful, he was able to reset your user
[16:27] <Tatuus> ATI installer now says default_policy.sh does not support version
[16:27] <betrayd> fede: i am not sure which you can safely copy over
[16:27] <bazhang> betrayd, who are you talking about
[16:28] <fede> betrayd, program specific config should be safe to restore right?
[16:28] <betrayd> the ones you are aware of fede right
[16:28] <Quix86> I've got a cisco aironet 350 and I can't figure out how to get it to work. I think the airo_cs driver is already installed?
[16:28] <sruli> leolove: shrew looks like its for IPSec
[16:29] <fede> betrayd, of course, thanks for your help
[16:29] <betrayd> ok cool
[16:29] <leolove> betrayd any experience with Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain ?
[16:32] <mzaza> I have been having this strange problem since I upgraded to 13.04 which I have been asking both on ask ubuntu and here in IRC to find a solution for, and nothing tell now. This problem is making ubuntu unreliable for me, could someone please advice? http://askubuntu.com/questions/287491/ubuntu-13-04-after-upgrade-from-12-10-upgrade
[16:32] <przemek> helo Sirs how to edit *.IMA files
[16:33] <Dr_willis> przemek,  and what is an .IMA file?
[16:33] <przemek> ima file is a bootable iso
[16:33] <przemek> i want to add files to this file
[16:33] <przemek> http://www.stchman.com/boot_cd.html
[16:33] <Dr_willis> przemek,  never in all these years heard of a .IMA file..
[16:33] <przemek> for dos boot file
[16:33] <przemek> look link please :)
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, Have you tried a live cd/usb to see if is the same?
[16:34] <Dr_willis> If its a pure cd image file. then i dont see why its not called an .iso
[16:34] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Seems to be a floppy image
[16:34] <LiquidDemocracy> I have a swiss keyboard but on my keyboard the letters z and y are switched around so I can not log into Ubuntu properly. WHy is that?
[16:34] <przemek> yep this is a floppy image
[16:34] <wm4> hi, I'm trying to upgrade 12.10 to 13.04, but update-manager just keeps crashing, is there any way to upgrade manually without a GUI?
[16:35] <loldog> Hello
[16:35] <theadmin> Dr_willis: DosBootimage.IMA: DOS floppy 1440k, x86 hard disk boot sector
[16:35] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  thats what i was about to suggsest also
[16:35] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: Can I create a live CD from my current installation. Or do you want me to download it from ubuntu.com because my connection is limited.
[16:35] <Dr_willis> przemek,  mountit via the loop feature of mount and you should be able to alter it.
[16:35] <Dr_willis> !iso
[16:35] <loldog> How can I install intel and ati graphics on 13.04?
[16:35] <chro> hi, I just installed epiphany but the program does not show up when I search for it with the unity launch
[16:35] <theadmin> wm4: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:36] <anonymous_cyberh> all fellows
[16:36] <Dr_willis> przemek,  it seems to be a raw floppy disk image. No idea where they got the .ima extension from
[16:36] <przemek> i thank you All for the informations
[16:36] <Mrokii> Hello. My system is broken, I'm getting a "low graphics-mode" message and can't boot to the Desktop (not even to the Login-screen). Is there something I could look for? Reinstalling Unity or something?
[16:36] <wm4> theadmin: thanks
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, I would check a downloaded myself, mainly as O never upgrade but fresh install, but that is me.
[16:36] <Dr_willis> przemek,  you are running some dos apps? or what exactly
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> I*
[16:36] <przemek> i just want to update bios so i need dos bootable iso
[16:37] <przemek> supermicro bios
[16:37] <przemek> :)
[16:37] <leolove> Can I disable CDRA in ubuntu to avoid any conflict with my wifi?
[16:37] <LiquidDemocracy> Mrokii, I had that too the other day. It means that you don't have enough disk space or boot partition is full.
[16:37] <Dr_willis> przemek,  you can get freedos iso  files...
[16:37] <theadmin> przemek: There's always FreeDOS
[16:37] <ghaith> hi
[16:37] <przemek> freedos great!
[16:37] <przemek> thanks again
[16:38] <LiquidDemocracy>  I have a swiss keyboard but on my keyboard the letters z and y are switched around so I can not log into Ubuntu properly. WHy is that?
[16:38] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: I may try downloading it again but that will cost me alot, because I'll have to redownload all apps I have installed and my connection is limited. Is there a way to make applications on a seperate partition so no matter when I delete my system I don't have to reinstall them again?
[16:38] <theadmin> LiquidDemocracy: Because the German layouts use QWERTZ rather than QWERTY.
[16:39] <theadmin> LiquidDemocracy: It's supposed to be that way...
[16:39] <stephane> أنا لا أحب العرب رائحة الفم
[16:39] <thomedy> im trying to do a symbolic link
[16:39] <thomedy> i found this
[16:39] <thomedy>   ln -s source_file myfile
[16:39] <thomedy> but i dont know what is the link source or my
[16:39] <thomedy> so im not sure where to put my link
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, Not sure really many have a separate home is all I know really, a download of 13.04 will have no upgrades as of now if you did a reinstall, just your additions of apps.
[16:40] <LiquidDemocracy> theadmin, I know but I only does't work during the initial graphical login into Ubuntu. After that the keyboard is correct. Locking/unlocking screen uses the correct keyboard.
[16:40] <theadmin> thomedy: Well, for example: ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Moscow /etc/localtime will create the link /etc/localtime, pointing to the /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Moscow file
[16:40] <theadmin> LiquidDemocracy: Ah hm. That's odd.
[16:41] <PrO_OkI__> usb installer for usb ubuntu 13.04.Thanks
[16:41] <PrO_OkI__> found it sry
[16:41] <bazhang> !unetbootin > PrO_OkI__
[16:41] <thomedy> okay so im pointing to the first one and the second one is the name and position
[16:41] <theadmin> thomedy: Pretty much
[16:41] <NastyNaz> I have mpd on ubuntu server. If I link a SMB share hosted on a windows machine (1.5TB total) with 1mbps upload, will it take AGES to be cataloged by mpd?
[16:42] <theadmin> NastyNaz: ...Likely.
[16:42] <LiquidDemocracy> My system is fully encrypted so when I enter the passphrase it uses the wrong keyboard layout until the Ubuntu login screen. After logging in everything is correct.
[16:43] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Noticed that the Live-usb maker tools at Pendrivelinux are 'updated' but they are using the wrong iso image file names. ;( and they dont have entrys for the ubuntu-gnome iso.. yet.
[16:44] <thomedy> i must be doing something wrong...
[16:44] <thomedy> i have xampp installed in /opt
[16:44] <thomedy> so the directory is /opt/lamp/htdocs
[16:44] <thomedy> and then i have created a directory called www
[16:44] <thomedy> my ln is called
[16:44] <theadmin> Dr_willis: They may not have Ubuntu Gnome, but the filenames seem right to me.
[16:44] <thomedy> ln -s /opt/lamp/htdocs ~/www
[16:45] <theadmin> thomedy: XAMPP installs under /opt/lampp/, not /opt/lamp
[16:45] <thomedy> and www is off [username]
[16:45] <Shadal> can someone give me a rundown on purging and reinstalling postfix and related packages?..
[16:45] <Jagst3r15> how do you assign a .profile to a specific user
[16:45] <thomedy> nope i do hav e2 p's i just checked  i just forgot to put it in the irc
[16:45] <thomedy> cp paste
[16:45] <thomedy> ln -s /opt/lampp/htdocs/ ~/www/
[16:45] <thomedy> cp paste
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I use the multisystem usb seen at pendrivelinux, works nicely.
[16:45] <Dr_willis> Jagst3r15,  each user has their own .profile file in their home
[16:46] <theadmin> thomedy: There, now the problem is the trailing slash after ~/www
[16:46] <thomedy> okay so i cant use that var
[16:46] <thomedy> i have to go full path
[16:46] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  Yumi? i just noticed that it wants the 'wrong' file names..  ie: it wanted raring-desktop.amd64.iso not ubuntu-desktop.amd64.iso
[16:46] <theadmin> thomedy: No, you can't, just ~/www, not ~/www/
[16:46] <theadmin> thomedy: Err, you can
[16:46] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  and i noticed that neither yumi or UniversalUSb installer had a menu item for the ubuntu-gnome
[16:47] <Mrokii> How do I reinstall the regular Ubuntu-Desktop (Unity)? For some reason my system doesn't boot into it anymore and when I use "startx" from a TTY I am put into IceWM (which I installed a long time ago).
[16:47] <Dr_willis> Those tools are getting so many differnt disrtos in their listings. they need to redo the GUI to organize them better.
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I have tried yumi and the universal, but for usb's loaded from linux the multisystem is best you can load almost anything and it has a huge download list
[16:47] <theadmin> Mrokii: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop # Will install ALL teh packages found on the Ubuntu ISO.
[16:48] <theadmin> Mrokii: May take a while but at least foolproof
[16:48] <Mrokii> theadmin: Thanks, will try.
[16:48] <LiquidDemocracy> How do I know what Login manager I use?
[16:48] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  i got the isos downloaded. ;) just all these tools are so picky about the name.
[16:48] <Dr_willis> LiquidDemocracy,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm   will show a  list and let you change it
[16:48] <Dr_willis> LiquidDemocracy,  lightdm is the default for most ubuntu variants.
[16:48] <Jagst3r15> Dr_willis but can you target a specific user's .profile or can you only set the .profile system wide
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Jagst3r15,  what? there is a system wide profile in /etc/ and users have their own in their home
[16:49] <Jagst3r15> ohhh
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Jagst3r15,  so im not sure what you mean ;P
[16:49] <Jagst3r15> duh
[16:49] <Jagst3r15> sorry my bad
[16:49] <theadmin> LiquidDemocracy: grep -HF "Display Manager" /etc/init/*
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, try this one it just works, I have noticed however that it wants a fat made with gparted in general is all. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  there is a multisystem website as well in french but translates to english.
[16:50] <Dr_willis> the users configs MAY or may not read the system profile  depend on how its setup
[16:50] <Jagst3r15> k
[16:50] <theadmin> LiquidDemocracy: That'll list them, you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure whichever-you-prefer" to switch to it.
[16:50] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_willis, the command didn't output anything
[16:51] <Dr_willis> LiquidDemocracy,  you got somthing very weird going on then.. or did a typo
[16:51] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_willis, I copied your command.
[16:51] <Dr_willis> LiquidDemocracy,  what ubuntu did you install?
[16:51] <LiquidDemocracy> 13.04
[16:51] <LiquidDemocracy> KUbuntu
[16:51] <Dr_willis> LiquidDemocracy,   Kubuntu uses KDM by default
[16:51] <theadmin> Dr_willis: False. ALL Ubuntu versions use LightDM since 12.10.
[16:51] <LiquidDemocracy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm?
[16:51] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[16:52] <theadmin> LiquidDemocracy: (see above, Kubuntu uses LightDM nowadays too)
[16:52] <LiquidDemocracy> kdm is broken or not fully installed
[16:52] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  somthings wonky then.. I definatly have to do a 'sudo service kdm stop ' here
[16:52] <Shadal> can someone give me a rundown on purging and reinstalling postfix and related packages?..
[16:52] <Dr_willis> but it could be how i installed kubuntu-desktop here. or kdm diretly from a upgrade
[16:53] <theadmin> Dr_willis: See http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release , introducing lightdm-kde
[16:53] <Dr_willis> Gdm has a odd bug for me where the pointer is hidden. Lightdm default Ubuntu theme is just.. well.. poor. ;)  so im using kdm
[16:53] <Dr_willis> 'we have replaced their regular dm manager with the new lightdm-kde manager' lets see if they notice. ;)
[16:54] <Dr_willis> but if i specifically installed 'kdm' is that kdm , or lightdm-kde ;)
[16:54] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Nay, that would be KDM as it is
[16:54] <LiquidDemocracy> I tried the command grep -HF "Display Manager" /etc/init/* and it outputs 4 lines showing kdm as well as lightdm.
[16:54] <Dr_willis> thats what i got going on then.
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> whats the safest way to remotely take over own ubuntu desktop?
[16:55] <Dr_willis> so  the default login manager for Kubuntu - is now lightdm-kde, but kdm is still in the repos if you want it.
[16:55] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  use the shutdown command over ssh. is one way
[16:55] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  or you mean power down the machine..
[16:55] <Dr_willis> or reboot?
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: no remotely take-over, like teamviewer or such
[16:56] <Dr_willis> teamviewer exists for linux
[16:56] <LiquidDemocracy> But I have the wrong keyboard layout when entering the encryption passphrase for Ubuntu, so it must be another problem.
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: i just hear tv got exploits
[16:56] <LiquidDemocracy> Can I set the keyboard layout in the bios?
[16:57] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  no idea. i dont use the things.. do a ssh tunle and use vnc if you want
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: ok tnx for info
[16:57] <thomedy> i dont knwo why i never remember how tha tworks
[16:57] <thomedy> i hav edone that multiple times
[16:58] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  noticed any tool like  Multisystem, only for windows? searching the pendrive site now
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> !ssh > lotuspsychje
[16:58] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  booting iso files via grub2 is so much 'cleaner'
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I have seen multiloaders for windows and tried some but found that contig fragging s problematic
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> is*
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, The multisystem boots W7 and W8 as well as a ton of others you can drag and drop ISO's.
[17:00] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  yea. not seeing any  that run IN windows.. that lets you make multi linux usbs that use grub2. one i see uses grub4dos
[17:01] <c0mputer> i am in a situation where i need to grab a mysqldump from the 'recovery mode' from my vps host. its hostname is root@onapp. mysqldump gives me command not found
[17:01] <Dr_willis> Just making some notes for my friend as to what he may want to use.
[17:01] <roadfish> I need to do a reinstall in the next week or so. I read some mixed comments about using 13.04, especially how 13.04 only has 9 months of support. Should I stick with 12.04 in my reinstall or should I upgrade to 13.04?
[17:01] <Dr_willis> roadfish,  depends on what you need 'support' for.
[17:01] <pestilence> is there any way to get a better preview of files when you are viewing them in nautilus?  like, a really large thumbnail so that you can read the document's first page?
[17:01] <Dr_willis> roadfish,  and how badly you want newer apps.
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> roadfish: i would clean install 13.04
[17:02] <LiquidDemocracy> Here is the EXACT same problem I have.  Exact scenario. I will try his solution. http://cosmicb.no/2013/04/16/wrong-keyboard-layout-in-lightdm-for-kubuntu/
[17:02] <Dr_willis> in 9 months you may be wanting 13.10 anyway. so  the 9 mo support. is not a big deal
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> roadfish: you might wanna check omgubuntu for 13.04 new features too
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, The multisysem uses grub4dos to boot the windows iso, but grub 2 in general.
[17:02] <roadfish> Dr_willis: I do want to have a newer version of mtpfs to connect up my Nexus7. So 13.04 would be nice for that.
[17:03] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  those sick puppies! ;)
[17:03] <Honksu> Hi! I am currently running my system from decraded RAID1 HDD and I want to move it to SSD. I broke RAID1 for reason because my motherboard had faulty SATA port and it kept crashing. All other SATA ports were of course in use. Now I have new motherboard, CPU and RAM. If I use cp +xa to move my root FS and then mount new drive and change UUID from /etc/fstab and /etc/default/grub.cfg and run udpate-grub is there something else to do because of tha RAID1 an
[17:03] <Sagitt> there is an official ubuntu-gnome 13.04?
[17:03] <roadfish> lotuspsychje:ok, so you're finding 13.04 to be fine then.
[17:03] <Dr_willis> roadfish,  i saw where kubuntu 13.04 has big mtfs improvements. ;) not really tried it. I tend to use 'airdroid' on my android phone. so i dont even need mtfs any more
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> roadfish: i do! its fast and nice
[17:04] <Dr_willis> if you want mtfs support for android. then i definatly think you will want  the latest release
[17:04] <roadfish> ok, I guess that's the clincher
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Or use airdroid. ;) its a very very handy tool
[17:04] <Elirips> Hello. Any ideas what the installer wants to tell me with 'ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 141'
[17:04] <Elirips> just after choosing the region
[17:05] <sruli> hi, I am trying to install openconnect-network-manager on my ubuntu 12.04 but in configure i get an error that its expecting libnl v 3.27 or above, i have 3.23, where can i find 3.2.7?
[17:05] <roadfish> I don't have WiFi. Never really needed it before. But I might make the leap in a few months.
[17:05] <sruli> open-connect-manager v 0.9.8
[17:06] <betrayd> mysqldump is not found in your $PATH
[17:06] <Dr_willis> no wifi for your android to pc to connect and love on each other? :) how sad
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I don't worry about the W7 or W8 iso's though they can be extracted to a nfts with a bootflag and boot, I have windows 8 with a student discount, and XP, but just for helping ms useser and using word to write grad papers.
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> users*
[17:08] <roadfish> One thing I'm wondering about this 9months of support on 13.04. Obviously, there will be no package upgrades in 9months. But will the servers actually be totally purged of 13.04 packages? Will I still be able to do ``apt-get'' or will I get a 404?
[17:08] <trism> Sagitt: http://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-13-04/
[17:08] <sruli> anyone know where i can find libnl v 2.3.7 on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:08] <steve___1> hi, i'm currently trying to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 but i'm getting a error (http://pastebin.com/GJaT7KCN)
[17:08] <steve___1> is this a  bug in the upgrade tool?
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> roadfish  after 9 months, you'll get a 404
[17:08] <Dr_willis> well got my ubuntu-gnome usb made... going to boot to it and test it out.    Sagitt  ;)
[17:08] <Sagitt> Dr_willis
[17:08] <Sagitt> i download this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/
[17:09] <Dr_willis> roadfish,  when things go EOL they get moved to an archive server
[17:09] <roadfish> :-( .... so roadfish will be high and dry
[17:09] <Sagitt> is the official 13.04 ubuntu-gnome? works right?
[17:09] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  it should work..
[17:09] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  torrents may be faster to download also
[17:09] <Sagitt> already in downloading
[17:09] <Sagitt> with torrent :D
[17:09] <Sagitt> but there is only this right?
[17:09] <Sagitt> or others?
[17:09] <Dr_willis> why would you think theres more then 1 ?
[17:10] <Dr_willis> what others are you thinking may exist?
[17:10] <roadfish> Dr_willis: archive server. That's good news. Does that mean I just change /etc/apt/sources.list paths?
[17:10] <betrayd> c0mputer: http://is.gd/mtmgrs <tutorial jump to 11-score
[17:10] <Sagitt> i remember that are others "test builds"
[17:10] <NastyNaz> what's the most secure way of sharing a windows folder over the internet to ubuntu server?
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> is there like a pentest collection for ubuntu i can install?
[17:10] <Dr_willis> roadfish,  yes. but if you are still using a release after it goes EOL and moved.. its seriously time to upgrade.
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> steve___1, Switch the software sources to all releases, turn off 3rd party repos and run a update and the update manager will work.
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  err.. its been finalized/released . so thers no longer alpha/beta stuff of it.
[17:11] <Sagitt> good
[17:11] <Sagitt> gnome is lighter than unity?
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> steve___1, Make sure you are updated with no errors.
[17:11] <Dr_willis> NastyNaz,  vpn might be the only way
[17:11] <roadfish> does EOL also mean end-of-line in this situation?
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  hard to tell.  i imagine the 2 are close.  its gnome-shell vs unity.
[17:11] <Dr_willis> !eol
[17:11] <roadfish> ah, probably means "end of life"
[17:12] <plumblum> For the Universal usb installer, what should i choose for Ubuntu 12.04 server amd64
[17:12] <plumblum> there is no option for that one
[17:12] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  if you want  the lightest desktop it would be Lubuntu  then xubuntu , then perhaps kubuntu, then gnome-shell/unity
[17:12] <steve___1> wilee-nilee: i did all of it...
[17:12] <Sagitt> i tried xubuntu
[17:12] <NastyNaz> Dr_willis: is there anything else besides vpn or a permanent ssh tunnel?
[17:12] <Sagitt> but i think is not good... for me
[17:12] <Dr_willis> NastyNaz,  use a ssh server on the windows box. and ssh/scp/sshfs on linux perhaps..
[17:12] <c0mputer> betrayd: what?
[17:12] <Sagitt> i'm on an asus eeepc 1001px
[17:13] <rajuchettri> how to remove grub from my netbook drive which i have mistakenly installed while installing ubuntu on my usb drive
[17:13] <Sagitt> i'll try gnome, anyway i can install xubuntu after :)
[17:13] <Dr_willis> NastyNaz,  there might be other ways/services out there like those share-my-desktop sites.. but i dont use them
[17:13] <Dr_willis> Sagitt,  you can install all the desktops on the same machine/install and select at the login screen
[17:13] <GavinDu> exit
[17:14] <sruli> anyone know where i can find libnl v 2.3.7 on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:14] <Dr_willis> sruli,  if its not in the repos. then look for a PPA. or use source.
[17:14] <sruli> dr_willis: where? please, dont know where to look
[17:14] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[17:15] <Dr_willis> be back in a bit.. rebooting to ubuntu-gnome
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> steve___1, I'm seeing old bugs on this supposedly fixed take a look here for more info. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1076186
[17:18] <rajuchettri> quit
[17:18] <Quix86> quit
[17:20] <sruli> dr_willis: cant find v 3.2.7 maybe you can help me do it in a different way, ./configure needs 3.2.7 but it gives me this "Alternatively, you may set the environment variables LIBNL_CFLAGS
[17:20] <sruli> and LIBNL_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config." i tried to run "./configure LIBNL_CFLAGS LIBNL_LIBS" but get the same error, what would be the right way to write the command it should ignore the version of libnl?
[17:21] <betrayd> c0mputer: ?
[17:21] <llldino_> Hey guys, so i've been having problems with suspend, and after reading the bug reporting page it says " please update your BIOS, and hardware firmware (CF card readers, SSDs, USB 3.0 controllers, DVD/CD drives, etc.) to the newest available from your vendor. Outdated and buggy BIOS and firmware is a common cause of a variety of hardware issues....suspend not working..."
[17:21] <llldino_> Anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[17:21] <trism> sruli: that doesn't tell you to ignore the version, you use those environment variables to point to a version you compiled yourself
[17:21] <c0mputer> [13:08] <betrayd> c0mputer: http://is.gd/mtmgrs <tutorial jump to 11-score
[17:22] <sruli> i see, anyway i can install this without updating the libnl file to v 3.2.7?
[17:22] <sruli> trism: i see, anyway i can install this without updating the libnl file to v 3.2.7?
[17:22] <betrayd> c0mputer: goto the link?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> llldino_, Upgrading a bios has it bricking possibilities, never happened to me but be aware. Manufacturers have downloads in general for this many have bootable ISO's or loadable upgrades from windows.
[17:23] <trism> sruli: what are you compiling?
[17:23] <sruli> openconnect-network-manager v 0.9.8
[17:23] <sruli> trismopenconnect-network-manager v 0.9.8
[17:23] <sruli> trism: openconnect-network-manager v 0.9.8
[17:23] <llldino_> wilee-nilee, Yeah ik, i'm a little concerned about it, I really don't think that my BIOS is the problem, but i'm a little confused. I boot grub from EFI using REFIt and then boot ubuntu from grub
[17:24] <sruli> trism: i cannot connect to SSLVPN with open connect so I want to try with latest version...
[17:24] <c0mputer> betrayd: i did. it's a SO question about the UNIX path variable. How does that help me run mysqldump in a recovery mode environment? I don't get it!
[17:24] <betrayd> it has your 'command not found' problem
[17:24] <betrayd> c0mputer: ^
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> llldino_, Not sure with apple computers though.
[17:24] <ettesto> Hello! I'm not able to confirm compatibility of Sil3114 Sata Controller (00:07.0 RAID bus controller: Imagenation Corporation Unknown device 3114 (rev 02)) with Ubuntu/linux. Could anyone help me confirm that?
[17:25] <juniour> hi ubuntu xx.xx
[17:25] <vonkrolok> hello everybody
[17:25] <c0mputer> betrayd: so in a recovery mode environment, with the hdd mounted to /mnt, i can add /mnt to my $PATH and it will fix everything?
[17:25] <juniour> hey i dont due to some reason my firefox working slow and stuck plz help :)
[17:25] <llldino_> wilee-nilee, I fresh installed 13.04 so that would have put the lastest grub on anyways if i'm not mistaken
[17:26] <contrapunctus> juniour - Try asking in #firefox? o.o
[17:26] <vonkrolok> I needed something with experience in the ubuntu/banshee/ ipod touch relationship
[17:26] <c0mputer> betrayd: because i dont think mysqldump will run correctly without the mysqld service running. which of course won't start in a recovery mode environment.
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> llldino_, There is an ##apple channel they may have some answers in the suspend. Yeah latest grub in raring, however I'm not sure how that relates here, can you explain?
[17:27] <c0mputer> i am in a situation where i need to grab a mysqldump from the 'recovery mode' from my vps host. its hostname is root@onapp. mysqldump gives me command not found. drive is mounted to /mnt but i can't do something like service mysqld start.
[17:27] <betrayd> c0mputer: c0mputer, is there a need to be in recovery mode?
[17:27] <c0mputer> betrayd: yes. the computer won't boot :)
[17:27] <YokoBR> hey guys, does anybody knows how do i scan a range of ports on Umit?
[17:27] <sruli> trism: can u help me with my compiling / openconnect / SSLVPN issue?
[17:28] <llldino_> wilee-nilee, When I attempt suspend it goes fine when i attempt to reenable the cpu fires up but I get no graphics and I/O, like I said i'm running raring and had no problems with 12.10
[17:28] <juniour> hey i dont due to some reason my firefox working slow and stuck plz help :)
[17:28] <betrayd> c0mputer: isn't that like blood on a tshirt, where you're trying to get the stain off with the right detergent, when theres a more pressing problem at hand
[17:28] <c0mputer> betrayd: not in this particular instance.
[17:28] <betrayd> c0mputer: maybe we have to fix the 'wont boot' to get services running
[17:29] <betrayd> c0mputer: or run just up to console mode but not recovery
[17:29] <c0mputer> so there's no way to get mysql data off of a hard drive?
[17:29] <trism> sruli: you would probably be better off testing a more recent version of ubuntu to see if it fixes your issue, before you try to backport everything you'll need to 12.04
[17:29] <llldino_> wilee-nilee, I went to file a bug report and the site said suspend issues are commonly un updated firmware issues, so i'm wondering how to check/update
[17:29] <DrIDK> hello, could you help me ? My usb stick has crashed. I cannot mount it . I only have /dev/sdb . Do you have something to suggest me ?
[17:29] <c0mputer> that seems really stupid
[17:29] <vonkrolok> so I guess nobody here tried to sync an ipod with banshee in ubuntu I guess...
[17:29] <bazhang> vonkrolok, many times
[17:29] <vonkrolok> ever had problems bazhang?
[17:30] <betrayd> c0mputer: blame the designers.is the data there and you just need to get the file
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> llldino_, Not sure really, if it is apple firmware I would check their channel, if ubuntu it would be in updates. That s a general comment though.
[17:30] <llldino_> DrIDK, Run lsusb and post output, does other things work with that usb port
[17:30] <bazhang> vonkrolok, which version of ipod firmware
[17:30] <vonkrolok> because I'm having a File Does not exist error... iPod is a 2nd gen
[17:30] <llldino_> wilee-nilee, Thanks, i'll check #apple
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> ##apple
[17:30] <bazhang> vonkrolok, the mini?
[17:30] <vonkrolok> and if I remember correctly it's a 4.something version
[17:30] <vonkrolok> touch
[17:30] <llldino_> wilee-nilee, :)
[17:31] <vonkrolok> it's a Touch bazhang
[17:31] <vi956925> hi, I'm trying to browse to a folder named .wine , but folders starting with "." doesn't seem to be visible in the file-browser.. any idea how I can browse the content of such folder? Not sure what it is and howto yet, but would it work to make a "sym link" to the folder and browse thru that link?
[17:31] <DrIDK> llldino_, yes, everything works fine . http://paste.ubuntu.com/5616614
[17:31] <bazhang> vonkrolok, thats odd, perhaps rhythmbox or gtkpod ; banshee has always worked well
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> vi956925, .wine is hidden in home
[17:31] <betrayd> vi956925: usually right click and pick 'Show hidden files'
[17:31] <vonkrolok> I have posted a bug in bugzilla
[17:32] <vi956925> oh yeah,  "show hidden files" worked. thanks!    Just wondering tho, would "symlink" work for this, or is that something completely different?
[17:32] <llldino_> DrIDK, Idk what to say, restart system and try again?
[17:32] <vonkrolok> bazhang if you fancy checking it out it's number 699164
[17:32] <llldino_> DrIDK, Is this an ongoing issue?
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> vi956925, Not sure a symlink is needed or works.
[17:32] <vi956925> k
[17:33] <ettesto> Hello! I'm not able to confirm compatibility of Sil3114 Sata Controller (00:07.0 RAID bus controller: Imagenation Corporation Unknown device 3114 (rev 02)) with Ubuntu/linux. Could anyone help me confirm that?
[17:33] <trism> sruli: I also notice http://askubuntu.com/questions/184234/openconnect-problems-on-ubuntu-12-04 which links to bug 985788 , which is supposed to be fixed in 12.10
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> vi956925, Explaining your goals would help here. ;)
[17:33] <DrIDK> llldino_, yes.. nothing works after many restart.. fdisk doesn't show my usbstick. Same results after several restart
[17:33] <sruli> trism: thanks will take a look
[17:34] <DrIDK> llldino_, but dmesg return me detection output
[17:34] <c0mputer> betrayd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873819&p=5483647#post5483647
[17:34] <c0mputer> betrayd: that looks like it will work.
[17:34] <DrIDK> maybe some of you, know a tools to for usb recovery
[17:34] <llldino_> DrIDK, Dumb question, but have you confirmed the stick is working on other distros/cpus?
[17:35] <ak5> hey how do I change my apaches umask setting?
[17:35] <ak5> Im on 12.04
[17:35] <ak5> Seems like no one indexed by google knows the right answer
[17:35] <DrIDK> llldino_, yes. it's not a new one. Yesterday it was working
[17:35] <vonkrolok> bazhang?
[17:35] <llldino_> DrIDK, Can you format it, or do you have important stuff on there?
[17:35] <bazhang> vonkrolok, tried those other two options?
[17:36] <llldino_> DrIDK, And was it working on that distro yesterday?
[17:36] <DrIDK> llldino_, yes
[17:36] <sruli> trism: that's not the error i get, i get the following http://pastebin.com/YUcnyecf
[17:36] <juniour> hi this wallch is consuming more cpu wt to do???
[17:36] <DrIDK> llldino_, that's way I m sure , usb stick is down. And I m trying to recover data
[17:37] <llldino_> DrIDK, When you restarted it was the stick in or out?
[17:37] <vonkrolok> yes, gtkpod freezes and rhythmbox get's in an error frenzy after 100+ songs transferred
[17:37] <DrIDK> llldino_, both
[17:37] <llldino_> DrIDK, Touche
[17:37] <betrayd> c0mputer: when you got nothing to lose...
[17:37] <llldino_> DrIDK, Not really sure I can help you
[17:37] <betrayd> c0mputer: good luck m8
[17:37] <llldino_> DrIDK, Is it formatted to FAT?
[17:38] <DrIDK> llldino_, yes
[17:38] <llldino_> DrIDK, Are you running raring?
[17:38] <DrIDK> llldino_, yes
[17:39] <llldino_> DrIDK, Maybe check out bug reports
[17:39] <llldino_> DrIDK, Did you do anything huge between when it was last working and now?
[17:39] <vonkrolok> bazhang also gtkpod has another problem: doesn't save in folders... saves everything in the same folder naming files with artist_album kinda format
[17:39] <troulouliou_dev> hi what is the best gui for iptables ?
[17:39] <DrIDK> llldino_, usb stick was connected during a while . I was not here when it dead
[17:40] <bazhang> troulouliou_dev, gufw
[17:40] <bazhang> !info gufw | troulouliou_dev
[17:40] <troulouliou_dev> bazhang, will try thanks
[17:40] <llldino_> DrIDK, Have you tried mounting on another distro since it stopped working?
[17:42] <vonkrolok> there doesn't seem to be a solution then...
[17:42] <Quix> http://pastebin.com/wgJ1JrvR what am I doing wrong
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> the new icon scroll is nice in 13.04
[17:43] <leolove> help me please :( This CRDA is killing my wifi
[17:45] <BluesKaj> leolove, CRDA?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> leolove  trying to learn every day... what is CRDA
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> ?
[17:46] <leolove> CRDA for wifi.
[17:46] <leolove> [11135.361338] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[17:46] <leolove> [11135.371815] cfg80211: World regulatory domain updated:
[17:46] <leolove> I need to disable it completely
[17:47] <leolove> It disconnects my wifi ever after 10 minutes approx. and I have to sudo restart network-manager to get back the connection
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> leolove  what is it supposed to do and where do things go wrong?
[17:48] <leolove> Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe is my card MonkeyDust
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> leolove  great! and what is CRDA?
[17:49] <leolove> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory/CRDA
[17:49] <leolove> This is CRDA :p
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> leolove  in your own words: what is it and why do you want to use it?
[17:50] <leolove> MonkeyDust I want to disable it. It actually queries the regulatory authority database to compliance with local wireless laws.
[17:50] <sangabbay> hi
[17:51] <leolove> The problem is, when it does it disconnects me from wireless and I need a workaround to get reliable connection
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> leolove  if you don't know waht it is and don't know how to use or handle it, how did it get there in the first place?
[17:52] <leolove> MonkeyDust it is already in 13.04 by default.
[17:52] <leolove> Nothing fancy done by me
[17:52] <leolove> I am troubleshooting and found that CRDA is being called exactly when wifi disconnects.
[17:52] <leolove> I can see it in my dmesg
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> leolove  undo what you did to get it there
[17:54] <leolove> Problem is, I did not do anything :(
[17:54] <leolove> It is a fresh install.
[17:55] <debdeb> hi
[17:55] <debdeb> is there a channel for ubuntu on nexus-7?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> !arm
[17:57] <bazhang> debdeb, #ubuntu-touch
[17:58] <debdeb> Dr_Willis, bazhang thx
[18:03] <llldino> Well, ##apple was real helpful [/sarcasm]
[18:03] <Nothing_Much> What happened?
[18:04] <leolove> so how to disable this wifi CRDA :(
[18:04] <leolove> 930717571616
[18:04] <leolove> cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[18:04] <leolove> [ 6986.050685] cfg80211: World regulatory domain updated:
[18:04] <llldino> Nothing_Much, The moment I mentioned I was running raring everyone started ripping me apart and hurt my feelings
[18:04] <snollux> How can I figure out what version of PAM I have installed?
[18:04] <tarruda> is there any terminal email client than can compete with mutt?
[18:04] <bazhang> !ot | llldino
[18:04] <Nothing_Much> Lol is it ##apple or just #apple?
[18:05] <bazhang> Nothing_Much, lets move on please
[18:05] <Nothing_Much> My bda
[18:05] <Nothing_Much> *bad
[18:05] <bazhang> tarruda, what does apt-cache search term show
[18:05] <llldino> Nothing_Much, ##apple, I went because i'm having trouble with suspend in raring and someone directed me to go there from here
[18:06] <Nothing_Much> Okay, well sorry you got crap for your question
[18:06] <tarruda> bazhang: I know there are other email clients, I just want to know if there are other that can compete with mutt features
[18:06] <bazhang> tarruda, try them and decide
[18:06] <llldino> Nothing_Much, Not your fault, and ideas how I can check firmware versions or how to debug my suspend issue
[18:07] <tarruda> bazhang: Maybe someone has already tried and can give me a hint?
[18:08] <Incarus> Ubuntu one is really bad. It can't sync your files to a mobile device, the windows-version is crashing and the uninstaller is recognised as a virus. http://cima.security.comodo.com/report/d4c5630d5c674534571e7f7b2627880f9c38c2e7.htm
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> Incarus, There are many free cloud services use one that works. ;)
[18:09] <OerHeks> Incarus, ubuntu-one is not bad, your mobile device can be hacked, so be carefulll who to blaim.
[18:09] <Nothing_Much> Oh dear
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Incarus, comodo allows you to okay stuff.
[18:10] <ezra-s> OerHeks, hacked how?
[18:11] <tgm4883> Incarus, most people don't want to sync all their files to their mobile device
[18:11] <Incarus> wilee-nilee, wanted to use it instead of dropbox, but file-sync didn't work there too (it's just not supported in both apps), I expected more from a free alternative
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> Incarus, Funny I have used both with no problems I use dropbox now, I suspect it is user error.
[18:11] <ezra-s> Incarus, "you expected more from a free alternative"? Sounds like nonsense..
[18:11] <Incarus> tgm4883, it's just a small and easy to implement feature, senseless to implement in not.
[18:12] <OerHeks> ezra-s, i don't know how.
[18:12] <ezra-s> OerHeks, then why do you say that?
[18:12] <Incarus> wilee-nilee, no, you can't access files you didn't access before, both doesn't synchronise your files, it's not a bug
[18:12] <tgm4883> Incarus, as others here have suggested. I think you are speaking nonsense
[18:12] <cordor> in ubuntu 13.04, do i still need to downgrade xorg for ati legacy driver?
[18:13] <Nothing_Much> cordor, yes
[18:13] <OerHeks> ezra-s, why do you ask? it is a mobile issue, not ubuntu.
[18:14] <jakemp> how do I rename applications so that they appear for the new name, and not the old name when I hit the super key and start typing?
[18:14] <Incarus> tgm4883, it's just my expierence from trying and using it, I got a ubuntu one account since it first appeared
[18:14] <punter> I just clean-installed Ubuntu 13.04, and checked both options: encrypt the one partition that my disk has, and encrypt my home folder. Does that mean that my home folder is doubly-encrypted? I.e. have I applied encryption upon an already-encrypted part of the disk?
[18:14] <Kroach> I want to install Ogre SDK in Ubuntu 12.04, is it in the official repositories, if so, what package is it(I can see several after searching for the keyword "ogre")?
[18:14] <cordor> Nothing_Much: thanks
[18:15] <snollux> How can I figure out what version of PAM I have installed?
[18:15] <cordor> Nothing_Much: xvideo is not working, now i know why
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> jakemp, Why would you want to rename them?
[18:15] <hustcalm> Kroach: you can use 'sudo apt-get install ogre' to get some luck
[18:15] <tgm4883> Incarus, the length of time you have used a product != how well you know how to use a product
[18:15] <Nothing_Much> cordor, what? Are you using fglrx or the radeon driver?
[18:15] <hustcalm> Kroach: use Tab to autocomplete to get some hints
[18:16] <jakemp> wilee-nilee, because I want to type calc and get my calculator, and type excel,and get libre office calc
[18:17] <Incarus> tgm4883, I'm pretty sure I know how to use it. There are several external shareware applications at the app-store, which brings that feature to ubuntu-one.
[18:17] <Kroach> hustcalm: there are ogre-doc, ogre-samples-data, ogre-tools, ogre-samples and ogre-samples-dbg
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> jakemp, Heh, okay. ;)
[18:17] <cordor> Nothing_Much: i was using fglrx, upgraded to raring, wanted to try unity and gnome shell, (both were disabled, i was using classic). none of them work. fall back to classic, no xvideo. i was thinking what's the problem.
[18:18] <hustcalm> Kroach: I thougt the ogre-tools will do the job
[18:18] <jakemp> I just see no simple way to tell it aliases for names
[18:18] <Nothing_Much> What's your graphics card? radeon is so far your only hope of using everything properly, sadly.
[18:18] <hustcalm> Kroach: other packages are docs and samples, you can install or not
[18:18] <cordor> Nothing_Much: onboard HD 3000
[18:18] <Nothing_Much> Ouch, have you installed all of the mesa/libgl libraries?
[18:19] <cordor> can i try fglrx-legacy?
[18:19] <Kroach> hustcalm: I just wonder if everything I need is in this package
[18:19] <cordor> it was working before upgrade to 13.04, i think
[18:19] <ghs> After to update Ubuntu 13.04,  this without sound. Any suggestion ?
[18:20] <Mneumonic> I'm currently on 13.04.  Everything is amazing (best Ubuntu yet), except every second or third time I reboot or shutdown it will get stuck shutting down.  It says "mount: / is busy" and never progresses with the shut down.
[18:20] <Nothing_Much> fglrx is the legacy driver that doesn't have compatibility with the latest xorg driver, so it most likely won't work.
[18:20] <Nothing_Much> *fglrx-legacy
[18:20] <trism> jakemp: you can use Keywords= in the .desktop file, though I notice Libreoffice already has Excel as a keyword on 13.04
[18:21] <cordor> Nothing_Much: i have a feeling it's going to take me much less time just buying a cheap card.
[18:21] <jakemp> I just use calc more than I expected. It's gotten to the point where it's worth the time to change it.
[18:21] <hustcalm> Kroach: you got to know that, packages are always splited into binary, docs, samples and devel, headers, etc
[18:21] <jakemp> Thanks, I'll try playing with that trism
[18:21] <tgm4883> Incarus, I probably don't understand what exact features you are missing then
[18:21] <hustcalm> Kroach: if you just want to use the binary, I think ogre-tools is what you look for
[18:22] <Mneumonic> Does anyone know how I can fix my problem?
[18:22] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, you're better off getting an Nvidia card anyways, if you game then you can use down to a GeForce 8 card, if you just browse about, then you can use down to the GeForce 6 series of cards
[18:22] <ghs> After to update Ubuntu 13.04,  this without sound. Any suggestion ? Someone ?
[18:22] <tgm4883> Incarus, oh, and "this will be easy to implement" are famous last words in software development
[18:22] <Dr_willis> ghs,  useing HDMI audio?
[18:22] <ghs> Dr_willis, not know.
[18:22] <Dr_willis> ghs,  how are the speakers plugged in?
[18:22] <cordor> Nothing_Much: oh, i was thinking radeon card.
[18:23] <Kroach> hustcalm: I'm trying to compile a game and the install instructions contain installing Ogre SDK
[18:23] <Nothing_Much> Then you'd need to get at least a 5xxx series card from AMD
[18:23] <ghs> Dr_willis, no.
[18:23] <Incarus> tgm4883, files on mobile devices are only linked, they aren't stored on the mobile device. You need to open them on the mobile device, to have them stored on your device, so you can't use other files you haven't open yet without an internet connection
[18:23] <hustcalm> Kroach: That's fine, if so, I think you are looking for something like ogre-devel
[18:24] <Mneumonic> I'm currently on 13.04.  Everything is amazing (best Ubuntu yet), except every second or third time I reboot or shutdown it will get stuck shutting down.  It says "mount: / is busy" and never progresses with the shut down.
[18:24] <tgm4883> Incarus, I thought I was able to select and download the files without opening them, but I'll have to check
[18:24] <hustcalm> Kroach: a.k.a the development parts of ogre
[18:24] <betrayd> Mneumonic: you have to hit the power switch then?
[18:24] <johnjohn101> you guys making me think twice about buying an AMD FM2 chip with built in graphics.   Is this really a concern with the newest ubuntu?
[18:24] <Incarus> tgm4883, only if you downloadet it allready by opening it
[18:24] <Mneumonic> betrayd, yes I'm forced to hold the power button and force a shutdown...which I'm not keen on doing
[18:25] <Incarus> tgm4883, the point is, that people don't want to download every single file, if you have like hundrets of documents, you just want to have them synchronised.
[18:25] <Ab3L> hi
[18:25] <betrayd> Mneumonic: of course, but can you predict when it will happen next
[18:25] <tgm4883> Incarus, no, I don't want to sync 100GB to my phone
[18:25] <cordor> Nothing_Much: thanks. brb reboot
[18:25] <chaotix> Question:  why does Unity select the Alt key for bringing up the "HUD"?
[18:26] <Mneumonic> betrayd, no.  It seems random.  It only happens every third restart or so
[18:26] <Mneumonic> It doesn't give me any more information than "mount: / is busy" so I'm not sure how to tell what is going on
[18:26] <Incarus> tgm4883, but I do, and other people too, documents aren't that big.
[18:26] <Dr_willis_> chaotix,  because alt-Stuff is normally assoicated with Menu items. wich is what the HUD is accessing
[18:26] <chaotix> ah ok
[18:27] <Ab3L> do you know nethogs? it allows to see which process is using your bandwidth and the amount. now my question: how can i limit the bandwidth for a specific process?
[18:27] <chaotix> thanks Doc, helpful and informative as always
[18:27] <chaotix> and Ubuntu has come along rather nicely
[18:27] <betrayd> Mneumonic: goto a tty (alt-fsomething) when it happens and type fuser command
[18:27] <Mneumonic> what will "fuser" do
[18:27] <Dr_willis_> chaotix,  most people dont even notice the HUD. its one of those neat overlooked features
[18:27] <betrayd> Mneumonic: go to a terminal now to type 'man fuser'
[18:28] <chaotix> i wish i could set the key as "ALT + (hold)ALT"
[18:28] <betrayd> Mneumonic: for the manual, so you'd be prepared
[18:29] <Mneumonic> betrayd, actually it looks like it's happening to others too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140104&highlight=busy
[18:29] <Dr_willis_> chaotix,  no idea why you would want that
[18:29] <betrayd> Mneumonic: still being worked on, good, not alone then
[18:29] <chaotix> or maybe to just tap alt twice
[18:29] <chaotix> you dont think that would be a good idea?
[18:29] <h00k> 9
[18:30] <betrayd> 10
[18:30] <Mneumonic> betrayd, should I be worried about forcing my laptop to shutdown by holding hte power button?
[18:30] <Mneumonic> betrayd, can't that corrupt data?
[18:30] <betrayd> Mneumonic: when you press it the middle of a busy session, yes
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> !reisub | Mneumonic
[18:31] <betrayd> Mneumonic: thats why fuser might clue you in HOW busy
[18:31] <ghs> I'm without sound on my ubuntu 13.04.
[18:31] <Mneumonic> betrayd, by the way, thanks for all the information.  Other than this small issue, 13.04 is amazing.  It's the best linux distro I've used since I started using linux in 2008
[18:32] <Sornaensis> quit
[18:32] <prasad> hello
[18:32] <prasad> i ned hlp
[18:32] <betrayd> Mneumonic: nice, yeah these guys are awesome
[18:33] <prasad> any one can help me i have problem with ubuntu?
[18:33] <Mneumonic> prasad what's wrong?
[18:33] <mekel> y0y0y0
[18:33] <prasad> i just install the ubuntu 12.10
[18:34] <prasad> only wallpaper display
[18:34] <mekel> iv been searching the forums, but i cant find anything specifc.. im trying to find info on how to strip down an iso so it has just the things files and programs i need, and make it bootable off a flash drive
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !uck | mekel
[18:34] <bazhang> !remaster > mekel
[18:34] <ghs> I here! I'm needing of help with my ubuntu 13.04. Someone please ?
[18:34] <bazhang> ghs with what
[18:35] <mekel> thank you ubot
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> ghs  shoot
[18:35] <loreste> hey guys
[18:35] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  what card. how are your speakers connectged...
[18:35] <loreste> How are you doing?
[18:35] <loreste> find . -mtime +730 | xargs gtar -pczf ftpbackup.tar.gz /mnt/ftp/*/ --exclude={/mnt/ftp/*/_ben/images,/mnt/ftp/*/_ben/templates,/mnt/ftp/common,/mnt/ftp/*/exports/xslt}
[18:35] <loreste> can you guys help with that?
[18:35] <ghs> Dr_willis_, I not know to speak that.
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> loreste  ask in #bash
[18:35] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  what is your native language?
[18:36] <ghs> Dr_willis_, Why ?
[18:36] <loreste> thank you
[18:36] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  because aparently its not english...
[18:36] <Mneumonic> prasad did you install the Nvidia proprietary drivers?
[18:36] <ghs> Dr_willis_, I'm writing wrong ?
[18:36] <ronalds> hello, smplayer has bug in 13.04, where could I send report?
[18:37] <prasad> after installation of ubutu 12.10 only wallpaper display nothing happen
[18:37] <prasad> help me after installation of ubutu 12.10 only wallpaper display nothing happen
[18:37] <ronalds> prasad, why install 12.10 in first place
[18:37] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  give us details as to what sort of hardware setup you have..  You have given us no real information.
[18:37] <Mneumonic> prasad, I'd recommend installing 13.04.  It is a lot better than 12.10
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> prasad, Check for additional drivers.
[18:38] <ghs> The Ubuntu 13.04 is handful of bug. :(
[18:38] <prasad> which drivers required
[18:38] <ronalds> ghs mention one?
[18:38] <ghs> Dr_willis_, Where I can to get that info ?
[18:38] <Dr_willis_> ghs, a pointless statement.  Stick to the problem at hand.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> prasad, There is an app "additional drivers" open it and see if any are offered.
[18:39] <prasad> any one can take my rdc
[18:39] <ghs> ronalds,  sound, for example ?
[18:39] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  again. How are your speakers hooked up? are you useing a laptop? a Desktop? a Vic-20?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> prasad, Are you up\dated?
[18:39] <prasad> no
[18:39] <Rand0m_Name> Does anyone know if I can install Ubuntu over Windows XP with out any problems?
[18:39] <ghs> Dr_willis_, laptop.
[18:39] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  you have so far given us NO real info.   so.. what Make laptop?
[18:39] <Atum_> Rand0m_Name: Yea, you can do it.
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> prasad, You can update from a tty if needed that may load the drivers needed.
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Rand0m_Name  sure, it's called dualboot
[18:40] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  start being more verbose in the info. we get tired of having to play 20 questions with info you should be stateing from the start.
[18:40] <Rand0m_Name> Awesome.
[18:40] <prasad> i am biginer in linux pls help me
[18:40] <Rand0m_Name> Have a nice day everyone.
[18:40] <prasad> pls pm me
[18:41] <prasad> pls pm me
[18:41] <Dr_willis_> !pm
[18:41] <ronalds> again, where to report smplayer bug, about resizing of video that fullscreen, makes it to give one open line from screen
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> !who | prasad
[18:41] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  common issue is video card 3d drivers not installed.
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !bug | ronalds
[18:42] <prasad> ok
[18:42] <ronalds> ubuntu-bug <smplayer>
[18:42] <Dr_willis_> ronalds,  without the <>
[18:42] <prasad> ubonttu: pls take rdc of my pc
[18:42] <ronalds> ubuntu-bug smplayer
[18:43] <bazhang> prasad, remote desktop?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> prasad, What is your native language?
[18:43] <prasad> bazhang: yes
[18:43] <Dr_willis_> you dont have a 'desktop' so how is that supposed to work prasad ?
[18:43] <bazhang> prasad, best not to ask strangers to do that, just describe your issue in full and be patient
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> ronalds  in a terminal, type ubuntu-bug, a small window pops up
[18:44] <ronalds> who uses smplayer, do you also get this thing when resizing window by double click, back to screen, and it just keeps video from fullscreen?
[18:44] <ghs> Dr_willis_, The info is plain. The Ubuntu 13.04 is with a bug related to sound. See: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1169984. Such bug, is reaching to all. In other words, I though that you already knew about that info.
[18:44] <ronalds> I'm just curios cause it's right now the only bug I have found in ubuntu 13.04-as it is rock solid
[18:44] <prasad> bazhang: ijust install ubuntu 12.10 but after rebooting only walpaper display
[18:45] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  we dont read every launchpad bug in here..  if its a known bug. then follow the bug reports and hopefully a fix will be released soon.
[18:46] <prasad> bazhang: pls help
[18:46] <Dr_willis_> ghs,  there are known issues with hdmi -  - and the  FIX Committed info on the bug. i belive tells us that a bug fix should be comming in with updates in the near future
[18:46] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  and whats your video card/chipset?
[18:47] <prasad> Dr_willis_: it item 845 chipset
[18:47] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  an INTEL chipset?
[18:47] <prasad> Dr_willis_: its intel 845 chipse
[18:47] <prasad> Dr_willis_: yes
[18:48] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  if this is a brand new install. i really would reccomend using 13.10 instead of 12.10 - it might 'just work'
[18:48] <Dr_willis_> oops 13.04 i mean. ;)
[18:48] <ghs> Dr_willis_, Yes.
[18:49] <prasad> Dr_willis_: my config is piv 2.8 1 gb ram
[18:49] <prasad> Dr_willis_:this is assmebled pc
[18:50] <prasad> Dr_willis_: can i update to 13.10
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> prasad  no, that's 6 months too early
[18:51] <prasad> Dr_willis_: how to upgrade?
[18:51] <Dr_willis_> !upgrade
[18:51] <JAF2801> HELLO!
[18:51] <Dr_willis_> be easier to just do a clean install of 13.04 IF its a brand new install of 12.04
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> prasad, YOU would want to have 12.10 fully updated to upgrade.
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> I would just fresh install 13.04 it would be faster.
[18:52] <Dr_willis_> or just install some other desktop instead of unity for now.. compiz/unity seems to have some issues where it dosent fully load at times. and ive never seen a definitve fix/reason why its doing it.
[18:52] <prasad> wilee-nilee: last time i update 12.10 but i have same problem
[18:52] <m1chael> i have an old document written on a very old mac computer. the file was recovered from an old floppy disk. the file has no file extension. i was able to do a hex dump on it and can see a lot of the info i want. i am unable to open it with anything- lots of garbled text. any suggestions?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> prasad, Have you had an install that just worked, if so what release?
[18:53] <Dr_willis_> m1chael,  vi can load binary files.   you could then copy/paste out what you want
[18:53] <prasad> Dr_willis_: if any one check with remote desktop i dont have problem
[18:54] <Dr_willis_> prasad, that statement made no sence to me.
[18:54] <ronalds> prasad, english, do you speek it?
[18:54] <usr13_> prasad: What is your native language?
[18:54] <prasad> ronalds: ???
[18:54] <lomo7> i need you litt help plz.. http://pastebin.com/1tjcpwLH
[18:55] <lomo7> can't use apt-get..
[18:55] <prasad> marathi
[18:56] <Dr_willis_> well thats one ive never heard of befor.
[18:57] <tgm4883> Incarus, I'm still testing (I don't get good cell coverage in this building), but I can already tell you that you are wrong on needing to open a file before it downloads
[18:59] <senthil_> hello
[18:59] <senthil_> no active chats
[19:00] <senthil_> ?????????
[19:00] <senthil_> any 1 ???
[19:00] <JAF2801> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:00] <BluesKaj> senthil_, just ask your question
[19:00] <Dr_willis_> senthil_,  you ask that after being in the channel for 2 sec?
[19:00] <DJones> !anyone | senthil_
[19:01] <prasad> Dr_willis_: are you there?
[19:01] <senthil_> Thanks., i need to compile my wifi driver
[19:01] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  im in and out all day long.
[19:02] <prasad> ubottu: please help me
[19:02] <senthil_> during compilation if i end up with error.. will i be able to boot up again or ubuntu will crach?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> prasad, You might also try #ubuntu-in if a native language helps.
[19:02] <JAF2801> SOMeone speak instead of bleeding joining and leaving and joining and leaving
[19:02] <lomo7> can't use apt-get install..
[19:02] <lomo7> i need you litt help plz.. http://pastebin.com/1tjcpwLH
[19:02] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  several people have reccomended you try 13.04 if you are having issues with 12.10
[19:02] <JAF2801> what the fuck is that
[19:02] <senthil_> well i dont ve issue with 12.10
[19:02] <DJones> JAF2801: If you don't ask question, we don't knoiw what you need supprot with
[19:02] <usr13_> prasad: Did you install Ubuntu or Xubuntu or Kubuntu? Or____________?
[19:03] <DJones> !lanuguage | JAF2801
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> !language } JAF2801
[19:03] <Dr_willis_> JAF2801,  perhaps set your client to hide parts/joins
[19:03] <prasad> usr13_: Ubuntu
[19:03] <JAF2801> it is language! not !language
[19:03] <DJones> !ohmy | JAF2801
[19:03] <JAF2801> WHat is ubuntu
[19:03] <JAF2801> Sorry
[19:03] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu | JAF2801
[19:03] <JAF2801> I have ADHD and I havent got my medication
[19:03] <prasad> Dr_willis_: pls help me how to upgrad?
[19:03] <tripelb> i cant/it wont join #ubuntu-offtopic :( -- this to ubuntu-devs->  there's a post on reddit about the 'little things' macusers love. We can take a lesson, or several small lessons. -30-
[19:04] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  i would suggest getting a 13.04 ISO file and booting from it and doing a clean install
[19:04] <usr13_> prasad: What Language did you install?  English?
[19:04] <senthil_> parasad, try sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:04] <Jordan_U> senthil_: It depends on what you've actually done up to this point, but most likely your system will still boot fine. Why do you think that you need to compile wifi drivers?
[19:04] <prasad> usr13_: yes
[19:04] <Dr_willis_> !brainstorm | tripelb
[19:04] <JAF2801> Sorry i do have adhd and
[19:04] <JAF2801> !ohmy what is that
[19:04] <prasad> Dr_willis_: other than download iso
[19:04] <BluesKaj> JAF2801, sure , noe xceuses here for bad language or behaviour ...no meds doesn't cut it .
[19:05] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  the upgrade..  but the clean install is the best route
[19:05] <JAF2801> It does under the disability discrimination act of 1991
[19:05] <Dr_willis_> !upgrade > prasad
[19:05] <JAF2801> I am not a stupid loudmouth.
[19:05] <Dr_willis_> JAF2801,  lose the attitude and state the ubuntu issue if you have one.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> JAF2801, this is an international chat
[19:05] <prasad> ubottu: i not received
[19:06] <prasad> bot???
[19:06] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  as in a 'robot' a 'program' a 'script'
[19:06] <Dr_willis_> prasad,  as in NOT a person
[19:07] <prasad> Dr_willis_: ok
[19:07] <usr13_> prasad: Can you get to console mode?  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[19:07] <prasad> usr13_: yes
[19:07] <senthil_> Dr_willis_  is it possible to bring pidigin at startup in background??
[19:07] <usr13_> prasad: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:07] <Dr_willis_> senthil_,  never really noticed or tried. so no idea.
[19:07] <senthil_> Dr_willis_  thnks
[19:08] <pagz> what are peoples thoughts on 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to 13.04 or is a fresh install strongly recommended ?
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> senthil_, I assume pidgin does not need a password put it startup applications
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> in*
[19:08] <Myrtti> pagz: depends on what version you're on now
[19:08] <BluesKaj> pagz, it worked for me
[19:08] <k1l> pagz: do-release-upgrade is fine. but having backps is always good
[19:09] <senthil_> wilee-nilee i tried that but it shows of the GUI rather i need to start in background without showing UI
[19:09] <usr13_> prasad: If that doesn't fix it, http://askubuntu.com/questions/208346/ubuntu-12-10-shows-no-launcher-or-menu  may be of interest.
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> senthil_, Not sure then.
[19:09] <senthil_> wilee-nilee thnks
[19:10] <usr13_> pagz: lsb_release -r  #Tell us what is the output.
[19:10] <govatent> are there any rhythmbox users here?
[19:11] <senthil_> govatent i used long back
[19:11] <brian__> Hello everyone, I hope this is easy.  I am trying to setup a dual monitor kiosk using ubuntu server 12.04.  Everything works well, however, I am trying to get my dual monitors working and it's not working.  I have X working with ati fglrx drivers, xorg configured, etc..  Using nodm it boots my .xsession however it rotates one of the monitors.  I am trying to achieve, a seperate session per monitor.  I think it works, I just can't seem to
[19:11] <brian__>  direct the applications to each monitor using .xsession DISPLAY="0.0" etc..
[19:11] <govatent> I'm trying to figure out a bug that i've run into that seems to be pretty new on launchpad.
[19:11] <usr13_> pagz: do-release-upgrade usually works just fine, barring power failure or loose of internet.
[19:11] <govatent> senthil_, what do you use now instead of rbox?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> !details > govatent
[19:12] <usr13_> *loss*
[19:12] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  you might  need to use the xhost + localhost command to allow apps to start on the other session befor you do the display/run
[19:12] <senthil_> govatent vlc :)
[19:12] <govatent> launchpad bug#1132215 when I try and sync my first gen old ipod, it's causing rhythmbox to crash.
[19:12] <senthil_> govatent i manage playlist simple
[19:13] <pagz> thanks ill try do-release-upgrade, reinstalling is a big job... without backups.... ill figureout how to do a backup incase anyway
[19:13] <prasad_> usr13_: sorry pc restarted
[19:14] <prasad_> usr13_: there is an message
[19:14] <senthil_> any i veing idea how to change the boot screen background?
[19:14] <brian__> Dr_willis_, sorry, not following.  Right now, I am loading chromium-browser through my .xsession and trying to set DISPLAY, that isnt going to work that way?  It appears at though, it is just ignoring the 'DISPLAY' and loading it into the same session.
[19:14] <prasad_> usr13_: i want to send u screen shoot
[19:14] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  are both sessions ran by the same user?
[19:14] <prasad_> usr13_: may i?
[19:15] <Jordan_U> brian__: Can you pastebin the exact script you're using?
[19:15] <brian__> Dr_willis_, yes, assuming the sessions are automatically created from the xorg.conf?  Sorry this is rather new to me.  My nodm.conf doesnt really specify anything about multiple sessions, I assumed using DISPLAY= set the session.
[19:16] <prasad_> l
[19:16] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  display just sets what monitor it should go to. are you sure you are using the right DISPLAY?
[19:17] <prasad_> usr13_: hello
[19:17] <brian__> Dr_willis_,  I looked at the xorg.conf and found out the monitors were connected to DFP1 / DFP2 and set them in the xorg.  I have assumed the display would be "0.0" and "0.1"
[19:18] <prasad_> Dr_willis_: any command to start update manager
[19:18] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  Im not sure if  0.0 and 0.1 is correct.  I tend to use twinview so it does things a little differntly
[19:19] <Dr_willis_> prasad_,  try 'update-manager'  ?
[19:19] <prasad_> Dr_willis_: yes
[19:20] <brian__> I am thinking nodm.conf needs something special to define multiple sessions?  Otherwise my assumption is that multiple sessions are created when DISPLAY is issued, or they are automatically created.   If they arnt I need to specify the sessions at some point I would guess.
[19:21] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  ive never used nodm. so no idea on that.  i thought a seperate X session would be 1.0 and 2.0
[19:21] <brian__> my X experience is so weak and when I add in the config is all done from the cmdline, it gets even more hairy
[19:23] <johnjohn101> brain__: don't worry Mir will solve everything!!
[19:23] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  are you sure you dont need multi-seat support?  are you using 2 monitors with 2 differnt desktops/input devices?
[19:26] <Angelic``> I am trying to change my desktop.
[19:26] <betrayd> brian__: so what are you trying to do, on a dual display
[19:26] <JAF2801> hi
[19:27] <betrayd> brian__: send the browser over to the second head
[19:27] <betrayd> ?
[19:27] <JAF2801> I am so sorry.
[19:27] <Angelic``> I am trying to change my desktop however the theme is gdm which I've just installed however when I try to start the .desktop it gives me an error.
[19:27] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Running_program_in_separate_X_display     seems to have a neat script :)
[19:27] <brian__> Dr_willis_, one set of inputs
[19:27] <JAF2801> I am a freenode programmer, I know how to get round this stuff.
[19:28] <brian__> betrayd, Load 2 chromium windows full screen in kiosk mode that have predetermined urls, that is all
[19:28] <Jordan_U> JAF2801: You weren't actually banned (though that can of course change). Please stay on topic.
[19:28] <JAF2801> Fuck off
[19:29] <brian__> Dr_willis_, reading now!  :)
[19:29] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  the arch wiki has a lot of neat info on this topic.   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead
[19:31] <Guest67710> hi all, how can i burn a .dmg , i have tred burn image with gnomebaker and k3b but bothe say that .dmg is not a valid image format
[19:32] <dfx> hello guys
[19:32] <dfx> can someone tell me how to get status bar in dwm i followed the arch wiki but it doe not work
[19:32] <Hyperbyte> Hi.  Just installed Lubuntu and afterwards ran apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree.  Chromium-browser says "Cannot load Shockwave Flash plugin" then crashes, and Firefox simply doesn't show Flash content.  Any tips on where I go from here?
[19:32] <brian__> Dr_willis_, This part in particular seems like it work.  ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Separate_screens ) -- However, when calling DISPLAY from inside my .xsession script it doesnt really do anything for me, well, besides make the screen flicker.  If I set up a while statement to handle 2 browsers, it just loads a browser, then loads the new one over top, waits the timer, then repeat.
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest67710  i read here, it's a mac extension
[19:32] <k1l> !away > NETfellow-off
[19:32] <Dr_willis_> Guest67710,  dmg is normally a Mac/OS-X image file - theres dmg to iso converteres out there.. whats on the dmg that you need?
[19:33] <Angelic``> IS there a way to change the login themes for a newly installed gdm over Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:33] <Guest67710> Dr_willis_: the .dmg is of Mountain Lion
[19:33] <NETfellow-off> sorry guys
[19:33] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  perhaps start by trying to get a terminal on each display and work up from there.
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest67710  try converting it to a vbox image, then use it in ubuntu
[19:34] <Dr_willis_> Guest67710,  and what do you need to do with it?
[19:34] <senthil_> wats d best irc client app
[19:34] <Dr_willis_> senthil_,  depends on your needs.
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> senthil_  depends on what you like most
[19:34] <bekks> MonkeyDust: It's a Mac OS based image of a cd/dvd
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> senthil_  plus: as soon as you have chosen one, someone else tries to convince you, to choose something else
[19:35] <senthil_> Dr_willis_ needs like ?? i'm using xchat now..
[19:35] <Guest67710> Dr_willis_: i am attempting a hackintosh
[19:35] <Angelic``> IS there a way to change the login themes for a newly installed gdm over Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:35] <Dr_willis_> senthil_,  xchat is very popular.
[19:35] <Guest67710> and need some format that i can boot from
[19:36] <lovethecode> quit
[19:36] <senthil_> Dr_willis_ ya but i ve difficult in switching btwn channels
[19:36] <Dr_willis_> Guest67710,  i recall thee being hackintosh guides on the lifehacker site and other places.
[19:36] <senthil_> Dr_willis_ any shortcut keys
[19:36] <Dr_willis_> senthil_,  tabs at the bottom are hard to switch?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> senthil_  then choose a client that's easier to use for you
[19:36] <Ben64> !info dmg2img | Guest67710
[19:36] <Dr_willis_> senthil_,  look at its help docs to see what keybindings exist?
[19:37] <Angelic``> IS there a way to change the login themes for a newly installed gdm over Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | Angelic``
[19:37] <senthil_> Angelic`` try ubuntu-tweak
[19:38] <Angelic``> senthil_: I have a theme already. Ubuntu-tweak doesn't even have the option to use that theme I want.
[19:41] <jMyles> I'm on a fresh raring install, and suddenly several things aren't working.  My USB input devices (a keyboard and a keyboard / touchpad) and both network controllers aren't working.  All are listed in lsusb / lspci.
[19:42] <Angelic``> How to change themes without ubuntu-tweak which won't allow me to choose my own downloaded theme?
[19:42] <compdoc> jMyles,do you have an option named immou enabled in the bios?
[19:42] <jeanbaptiste> How do i get wobbly windows? I installed compizconfig but it didnt have it???
[19:42] <Dr_willis_> there used to be gdm configure tools Angelic`` .
[19:43] <compdoc> *iommu
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> jMyles, List them and the details of what you have tried. Have you accessed additional drivers in software sources or can you, and can you run a update?
[19:43] <mzaza> I can't choose boot menu, it always redirect me to ubuntu operation system choose, any ideas/
[19:43] <Dr_willis_> jeanbaptiste,  not all compiz plugisn may be installed by default. check the package manager for any extras that may need installed
[19:43] <jeanbaptiste> ok dr_willis_ btw does compiz effects and stuff work well with unity?
[19:43] <mzaza> I even can't get into BIOS?
[19:44] <Dr_willis_> jeanbaptiste,   Unity is a plugin for compiz.
[19:44] <ronalds> jeanbaptiste, ccsm in terminal, find your future by using eyes, and clicking on things
[19:44] <Dr_willis_> going berzerk with ccsm can break unity. ;)
[19:45] <ronalds> that's why window pops up Dr_wilis, but people don't read them as much as they should
[19:45] <johnjohn101> i know compiz is going away at some point but could someone find a way to get the snow plugin working in a later ubuntu?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> holy fuson icon
[19:45] <Dr_willis_> read the docs? what crzayness is this?
[19:47] <jMyles> compdoc: I am not sure.  I'll reboot and find out.
[19:47] <compdoc> I laugh in the face of docs!
[19:47] <jMyles> wilee-nilee: I have been unable to update, and I haven't tried installation any drivers.  The network devices are Realtek RTL8111/8168 and National Semiconducter DP83815
[19:48] <compdoc> jMyles, enabling iommu on my systems does what you described
[19:48] <Angelic``> How to change themes without ubuntu-tweak which won't allow me to choose my own downloaded theme?
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> jMyles, realtek needs a wrapper and driver and is a great pain.
[19:48] <jeanbaptiste> Omg i enabled wobbly windows and top bar disappears from programs when i un-fullscreen them
[19:48] <Dr_willis_> Angelic``,  you are refering to  User desktop themes or gdm themes?
[19:49] <jMyles> wilee-nilee: Yeah.  I had it working with 12.10.  The National Semiconductor "just worked" with 12.10
[19:49] <Angelic``> Dr_willis_: gdm themes.. I just downloaded and installed gdm on ubuntu 12.10.
[19:49] <zwirc> Hio
[19:49] <Angelic``> Dr_willis_: I am trying to change my login theme.
[19:50] <zwirc> can i change root password from another sudo user in ssh ?
[19:50] <Dr_willis_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/193/how-can-i-change-the-login-screen-theme-in-gdm
[19:50] <betrayd> brian__: in your script after its assigned a value, refer to it as $DISPLAY $DISPLAY2 afterwards
[19:50] <kuranevi> hi
[19:50] <kuranevi> i am new in ubuntu
[19:50] <brian__> Dr_willis_, I feel pretty retarded, I can't seem to get anything but chromium to run.  Since I have no idea how to start a terminal from inside X without a desktop enviroment
[19:50] <kuranevi> i have install the new version from ubuntu studio
[19:50] <jMyles> wilee-nilee: There's no option in my bios that is called IOMMU, nor any that seems like it might be a synonym.
[19:51] <zwirc> can i change root password from another sudo user in ssh ?
[19:51] <kuranevi> i have any questions...
[19:51] <Dr_willis_> brian__,  run the command 'xterm' or 'gnome-terminal' same as you are running   the browser
[19:51] <brian__> betrayd, I was using 'DISPLAY="0.0" chroumium-browser &' and then DISPLAY="0.1" chroumium-browser
[19:51] <brian__> but spelling if right ofcourse..
[19:51] <Dr_willis_> zwirc,  root user has no password by default.  did you set one?
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> jMyles, Not sure why you ask me about IOMMU,
[19:52] <zwirc> Dr_willis: yes
[19:52] <zwirc> but cant remember it because il never use root
[19:52] <jMyles> compdoc: There's no option in my bios that is called IOMMU, nor any that seems like it might be a synonym.
[19:52] <zwirc> but have a sudo user
[19:52] <jMyles> wilee-nilee: Wrong guy :-)
[19:52] <zwirc> so can i sudo passwd root?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> zwirc: You can, but you shouldn't (and we don't support doing so).
[19:52] <kuranevi> is my ubuntu studio a Xfce version?
[19:52] <Dr_willis_> zwirc,   its best to not have a password set for root.. since you never use root.. its sort of pointless to have one set
[19:52] <betrayd> brian__: your syntax, should be :0.1 and :0.0 (dualhead?)
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> kuranevi, How would we know?
[19:53] <zwirc> Dr_willis: but i already have one set, so why not change it?
[19:53] <Dr_willis_> zwirc,  because its considered a security issue
[19:53] <senthil__> Dr_willis_ now i am trying pidgin client as irc.. looks good tome !!
[19:53] <Dr_willis_> senthil__,  pidgin is a rather poor irc client in many ways
[19:53] <brian__> betrayd, it was, sorry, I don't have had sshd installed so I am retyping it and forgetting stuff.  Probably not the effective way, I should just install sshd for the time being
[19:54] <Dr_willis_> !info mdm
[19:54] <senthil__> Dr_willis.. y so?? can u tell me
[19:54] <compdoc> jMyles, I thought you said, but what brand/model is the nic?
[19:54] <Dr_willis_> senthil__,  xchat or weechat are all i really use.
[19:54] <mzaza> I can't get to BIOS settings or boot menu, ubuntu grub shows up no matter what hotkeys i press. I'm on a 64 bit machine.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> zwirc: "sudo passwd -l root" will disable root login again.
[19:55] <Dr_willis_> senthil__,  pidgin is an IM client that can do irc.. but irc is not its primary focus. so its lacking in many irc client features
[19:55] <jMyles> compdoc: The network devices are Realtek RTL8111/8168 and National Semiconducter DP83815
[19:55] <senthil__> Dr_willis_ features like can u b specific? wat does u see in weechat thatdoes't ve in pidgin. just wanted to know
[19:56] <Dr_willis_> senthil__,  wee chat is fully scriptable and has smart filters
[19:56] <Dr_willis_> pidgin can barely do anything..
[19:56] <compdoc> jMyles, are you defining the nic in /etc/network/interfaces? On one system of mine, the onboard RTL8111 is not seen as eth0
[19:57] <jMyles> compdoc: No.  Only lo is defined.  That's how the installer left things.
[19:58] <nobbler> Hi.  Update killed my grub.  In rescue when insmodding linux i get 'error: symbol not found: 'grub_disk_dev_list'' - livecd/usb is no option ;( any hints or explanation for this error?
[19:58] <compdoc> jMyles, just a sec while I boot up a machine
[19:58] <brian__> Dr_willis_, If I specify, xterm, it loads in one of the monitors, other appears to blank.  I would guess it loads 2 xterm windows in the same monitor.  Ignoring the DISPLAY=* command..
[19:58] <jMyles> compdoc: modprobe natsemi gives me: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file
[19:59] <Dr_willis_> Night all...
[19:59] <betrayd>  Dr_willis  gnite
[20:00] <mustafa_> i upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 to 13.04 and i started having problems now i am trying to reinstall it from usb disk and i can't get to the boot menu disk! would someone please help before i get a dcc
[20:00] <mustafa_> *dc
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> a dc?
[20:01] <compdoc> jMyles, could you pastebin the output of:   ls -al /sys/class/net/*
[20:01] <mustafa_> MonkeyDust: disconnect
[20:01] <mustafa_> MonkeyDust: unreliable network, just as my current installation
[20:01] <jMyles> compdoc: The machine isn't connected, so I can't easily pastebin it.  Looking at the output, it's a symlink that points to ../../devices/virtual/net/lo
[20:02] <compdoc> thats all?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  start be describing what you tried, before you came here
[20:02] <betrayd> mustafa_: do you still have your old install?
[20:02] <jMyles> compdoc: Yep, just the one symlink.  Nothing else in that directory.
[20:03] <betrayd> we lost him
[20:03] <betrayd> guess he got his dc after all
[20:03] <mustafa_> MonkeyDust: could you assist?
[20:04] <compdoc> jMyles, likely because networking isnt set up. do you use network manager? if not you should add an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:04] <nobbler> Can anyone on 13.4 grep in his *mod files of grub if this symbol apppears anywhere?
[20:04] <cordor> Nothing_Much: you are right. got fglrx-legacy working but old xorg doesn't seems compatible with gnome-shell or unity. using openbox now.
[20:04] <brian__> I'm guessing there has to be something in nodm.conf that specifies multiple sessions.  No idea what though.
[20:05] <senthil6> Dr_willis_ now i am using weechat.. looks good (except n terminal)
[20:05] <mustafa_> I shouldn't face that problem, I am on a socalled stable release. Why you are changing things to be more complicated. And why should I do all of that to get assistance. I installed linux because i though it would be reliable, not have upgrade to stable release with strange problems. and then can't remove the OS!! It's like jailing someone inside your free opensource OS!
[20:06] <jMyles> compdoc: I think I have a bigger problem.  I seem to be running kernel version 3.5.0-17
[20:06] <compdoc> jMyles, didnt you say raring?
[20:06] <jMyles> compdoc: (based on uname -r)
[20:07] <betrayd> mustafa_: why don't we begin with the exact problem, now that you've let that off your chest
[20:07] <jMyles> compdoc: Yep, raring.  Just installed from a live USB.  However, I did keep home and swap partitions from a previous install....
[20:07] <compdoc> 3.8.0-19-generic is current
[20:07] <jMyles> compdoc: ls /boot doesn't show that kernel, only 3.8.0-19
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> nobbler, without a live cd/usb all you can do is manual boot grub possibly
[20:07] <jMyles> compdoc: Yeah, I know.  I was surprised to see the output of uname of course.  :-)
[20:08] <jMyles> compdoc: So, it's now obvious that these modules aren't loading because it's looking in /lib/3.5.0-17
[20:08] <compdoc> jMyles, you installed some package?
[20:08] <mustafa_> betrayd: I can't get into the boot menu or the BIOS settings, the grub loads just after the vaio logo
[20:08] <brian__> betrayd, Anything in here look like I could set the display/session?
[20:08] <jMyles> compdoc: Nope.  No packages installed.  I can't get online.
[20:08] <compdoc> jMyles, maybe its left over in grub
[20:09] <jMyles> compdoc: same thought.  rebooting and checking grub menu.
[20:09] <nobbler> Wilee-nilee: these trys give me abovementioned error,  i guess id have to insmod the right module before,  but dont know which,  hence the request for someone to grep
[20:09] <jMyles> compdoc: grub menu says 3.8.0-19-generic
[20:09] <jMyles> compdoc: I'm trying recovery mode.
[20:09] <betrayd> brian__: have you psted your custom xsession somewhere i can look at
[20:09] <mustafa_> betrayd: By the boot menu I mean boot from usb disk or hdd
[20:10] <jMyles> compdoc: Nope.  uname -r still says 3.5.0-17-generic
[20:10] <brian__> betrayd, I will, it is very simple though
[20:10] <betrayd> mustafa_: most BIOSes have F12 to do that
[20:10] <compdoc> jMyles, heh, very weird. maybe you need to erase the whole drive
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  the BIOS loads, before ubuntu does
[20:11] <jMyles> compdoc: I can't easily do that.  Any hunch about how this is possible?
[20:11] <mustafa_> betrayd: Yes I have F10 and it worked in Ubuntu 12.10 and Windows 8 but it doesn't work after upgrading to 13.04
[20:11] <brian__> betrayd, This is all I have that I am testing with.  http://pastebin.com/k2p7knr0
[20:11] <betrayd> brian__: 1 sec
[20:11] <compdoc> jMyles, never seen such a thing. I have seen packages that dont undertand raring yet, because its so new.
[20:12] <mustafa_> MonkeyDust: Yes, it doesn't take any input grub loads anyway. When this problem happened due to uefi i fixed it from inside the ubuntu
[20:12] <betrayd> brian__: why the quotes
[20:12] <thenoob> Help-me please! (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1063965)
[20:12] <brian__> betrayd, I don't know, saw them somewhere, I'll remove and refresh
[20:12] <Slaizer> Hi all, I dont understand oneubuntu-client at all. It is not uploading all my files. How come? been here before and disgust this. it is quite frustrating.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> jMyles: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[20:12] <KommaH> Hey everyone. Could I get someone to help walk me through connecting to wireless via terminal?
[20:13] <KommaH> Right now, I
[20:13] <betrayd> wait brian__ bec they're in a script my guess
[20:13] <mustafa_> mustafa_: i ment windows, this problem happened in windows 8 and i was able to trun it off from inside the windows, to get the bios settings. something releated to uefi or something like that
[20:13] <KommaH> Right now, I'm having a few issues.
[20:13] <thenoob> 6 months that was reported and so far nothing!
[20:13] <betrayd> brian__: couple things to try
[20:13] <thenoob> I'm from Brazil and not speak English. :(
[20:13] <CitrusFlower> Hi. I cant update to VLC 2.0. It is stuck on VLC Luggage. I have tried two different PPAs and even disabled all ordinary ubuntu software sources
[20:14] <betrayd> brian__: if it erors because of syntax precede the colon with \
[20:14] <betrayd> brian__: (after removing quotes)
[20:14] <CitrusFlower> But no matter how many times I remove and reinstall vlc it is still on vlc luggage 1.1.2
[20:14] <betrayd> brian__: also put another '&' after 2nd browser commands
[20:14] <jrib> CitrusFlower: apt-cache policy vlc   (I'll brb)
[20:15] <jMyles> Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic root=UUID=<some uuid> ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[20:15] <betrayd>  he'll b rib =)
[20:15] <CitrusFlower> jrib: Ok Ill do it and see what the output is
[20:15] <mustafa_> betrayd: could you please continue your assitance?
[20:15] <CitrusFlower> betrayd: Dont mess with him! He is HELPING me :-P
[20:16] <mustafa_> Anyone has experience with UEFI BIOS???
[20:16] <Guest70950> yes
[20:16] <Guest70950> on the UEFI
[20:16] <juan_> Hello. I am new here, How can I change of chanel? Thanks
[20:17] <Jordan_U> jMyles: That is bizzarre. What is the output of "md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic"?
[20:17] <mustafa_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2079168
[20:17] <thenoob> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1063965) Can anyone fix this bug? Please! Makes 6 months that reported and so far nothing. :'(
[20:17] <Guest70950> what are you trying to do to the yefi bios
[20:17] <jMyles> Jordan_U: :-)
[20:17] <betrayd> brian__: i see why the second one is in limbo, put an & after it, now something different should happen
[20:18] <juan_> I need to go to Ubuntu.es
[20:18] <invariant> thenoob, you weren't expecting Ubuntu people to ever fix anything, were you?
[20:18] <invariant> thenoob, Ubuntu just collects bugs such that the world can look at how much they are doing wrong.
[20:18] <CitrusFlower> Ok when I do apt-cache policy vlc I get the following output: http://pastebin.com/pwEYuBtF
[20:19] <thenoob> invariant, I'm a new in Linux and I'm from Brazil and not speak English!
[20:19] <betrayd> brian__: or try a combo, one an xterm the other a browser
[20:19] <invariant> thenoob, if you want them fixed, you fix it yourself, or you pay someone.
[20:19] <bazhang> invariant, thats not helpful. stop
[20:19] <CitrusFlower> I have added ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily
[20:19] <jMyles> Jordan_U: 91833c751222eab625523ffe5f54af3c3 (had to type it)
[20:19] <juan_> Well. I need to download this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z77eZMfiyoY&list=UUcX1QcSqYFqFIE2IbxKhAyA How can I do, please?
[20:19] <invariant> bazhang, Ubuntu is not much different from Windows here, except that you can choose the vendor.
[20:19] <bazhang> juan_, with firefox download helper
[20:20] <juan_> thanks
[20:20] <bazhang> invariant, take the chat elsewhere
[20:20] <bazhang> !pt | thenoob
[20:20] <invariant> bazhang, oh, right, this is for "support".
[20:20] <betrayd> thenoob: what about alternative sound, tried other live CDs? you might get sound
[20:21] <Jordan_U> Would someone running Ubunu 13.04 mind posting the output of "md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic" so that I can compare it to jMyles's output?
[20:21] <thenoob> bazhang, The Brazilian community did not help me then I came to see if someone here can help!
[20:21] <mustafa_> Would someone please assist me in getting into BIOS? Can't get into bios after ubuntu installation
[20:21] <compdoc> deacc3c3a21beb4913c43a00bb6d5e01  /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic
[20:21] <jMyles> Jordan_U: You've gone full on investigator :-)
[20:22] <jMyles> compdoc, Jordan_U : WHAT?!!!
[20:22] <Draxelis> skype doesnt work on ubuntu 13.04. I read that skype 4.0 should work, where can I get one?
[20:22] <compdoc> thats 64bit server
[20:22] <betrayd> mustafa_: ubuntu can't change THAT far into your system otherwise it'd be a virus
[20:22] <jMyles> compdoc, Jordan_U: I swear to you, I did not take an old version of the kernel and name it vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic
[20:22] <thenoob> betrayd, What alternative sound? I'm on Ubuntu 13.04
[20:22] <Angelic``> How to change themes without ubuntu-tweak which won't allow me to choose my own downloaded theme?
[20:22] <Guest70950> which version of ubuntu did you install
[20:22] <brian__> betrayd, I had a url specified on the end of it, so I know which is running, based on google.com or microsoft.com -- I am now trying it with a & on the end of the second line.  Removing the quotes on the display, didn't change anything.  What is strange is it rotates which monitor is used.  Sometimes it loads the browsers in the left, other times in the right
[20:23] <vonkrolok> GLib.GException: File does not exist (in `gio-sharp') happens when drag&dropping tracks from iPod Touch 2ndGen to music library in Banshee... can anybody help?
[20:23] <betrayd> brian__: ok getting somehwere...no?
[20:23] <thenoob> betrayd, I've tried Xubuntu, Debian, Lubuntu, Kubuntu and all have this problem!
[20:23] <CitrusFlower> Ok so I repeat if its ok :-/ : I cant update to vlc 2.0. I'm stuck on vlc 1.1.12 the luggage. Output of apt-cache policy vlc is this: http://pastebin.com/pwEYuBtF
[20:23] <CitrusFlower> I have ubuntu oneric
[20:23] <Jordan_U> jMyles: However it happened, I'm guessing that "md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic" from someone who had that kernel would match your md5sum.
[20:24] <betrayd> thenoob: try pulse?
[20:24] <jMyles> Jordan_U: Wouldn't you love to know for sure? :-)  I'm guessing you're right.
[20:24] <tefter> thenoob: try http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2011-December/012342.html disable front mic with this program
[20:24] <thesilence84> hey guys, quick question:  Suspending my portege z935 works the first time, but the second fails.  I get:
[20:24] <thesilence84> error:  command pacmd list failed with exit code 1 no pulseaudio daemon running or not running as session daemon
[20:24] <jMyles> Jordan_U: But how?  How does the ubuntu installer copy that file to /boot?  How could it have gotten the wrong version?  And from where?
[20:24] <Jordan_U> jMyles: No idea.
[20:25] <thenoob> tefter, Tank you!
[20:25] <mustafa_> betrayd: Virus on Ubuntu?
[20:25] <compdoc> jMyles, did you say you installed from usb?
[20:25] <mustafa_> betrayd: I heared sometimes Ubuntu misses the BIOS configuration
[20:25] <jMyles> compdoc: Yes.
[20:25] <betrayd> mustafa_: is this one of them uefi PCs
[20:25] <thenoob> betrayd, I've never seen.
[20:25] <compdoc> what did you use to create the usb?
[20:25] <mustafa_> betrayd: yes
[20:26] <Slaizer> why can i upload large files, e.g. above 500 mb on my personal ubuntu cloud?
[20:26] <Slaizer> not*
[20:26] <bazhang> Slaizer, try #ubuntuone ?
[20:26] <Jordan_U> jMyles: To fix this you can probably just re-install the kernel package, but I'm downloading the .deb for vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic to check the md5sum just to confirm.
[20:27] <betrayd> brian__: check the browser setting, maybe 'start with page from last time' is the Home Page setting
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> CitrusFlower, Orignially I had to add a ppa to get vlc 2 I still use it, not sure but I would think it s now in the repos.
[20:27] <betrayd> brian__: that might be why they're 'switching'
[20:27] <brian__> betrayd, It didn't load at all with both lines having the &
[20:27] <jMyles> Jordan_U: Thanks dude.  :-)
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[20:27] <Draxelis> does SKYPE work for you guys!??????????????
[20:28] <brian__> betrayd, I think it is set to no special page loaded.. I'll check
[20:28] <jMyles> Jordan_U, compdoc: I'm booting to the live USB again to poke around
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> CitrusFlower, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/vlc
[20:29] <CitrusFlower> wilee-nilee: I dont have quantal, I have oneric
[20:29] <CitrusFlower> wilee-nilee: Ooops, I see a deb-package. Are you referring to that??
[20:30] <brian__> betrayd, Ok, here is something intriguing.. It loads the first browser in the right monitor.  If I alt+f4 it, it then loads the second browser in the left monitor.  Which is closer to it working.  Where both monitors should have browsers at the same time..
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> CitrusFlower, No, however you are less than two weeks from end of life you might consider an upgrade at this point.
[20:30] <betrayd> brian__: you took out the first & it then goes to thenext line in the script
[20:31] <jeanbaptiste> Is it possible to disable commercial software from showing in ubuntu software center?
[20:31] <Nothing_Much> Did somebody say something to me
[20:31] <Nothing_Much> ?
[20:32] <mustafa_> wilee-nilee: do u have experience with uefi bios?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> jMyles: md5sum vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic: 91833c75122eab625523ffe5f54af3c3  vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic :)
[20:32] <betrayd> brian__: goes to the next line in the script when the first one exits
[20:32] <mustafa_> betrayd: yes it is, could u further assist?
[20:33] <betrayd> mustafa_: have no experience with flawed-from-factory HW
[20:33] <betrayd> iow, i dont use uefi-encumbered pos
[20:33] <Jordan_U> betrayd: Please watch your language.
[20:33] <bucky> mustafa what are you trying to with the UFEI bios
[20:34] <CitrusFlower> I have uninstalled vlc but something still happens when I execute command "vlc". What more package must I uninstall?
[20:34] <brian__> betrayd, that is what is weird, I left it in there.. The first line had &, let me try a few things and report back
[20:35] <bucky> my typing is terrible today
[20:35] <mustafa_> bucky: Nothing, it's just when i reboot and click F10 to get devices i want to boot from it doesn't respond to my input and goes directly to grub.
[20:35] <jMyles> Jordan_U: Incredible.  I'd love to know how.  I'm poking around now on the live USB.
[20:35] <KI4RO> part
[20:35] <compdoc> jMyles, most ppl like unetbootin to create usb installers
[20:35] <betrayd> k, good luck brian__
[20:35] <Jordan_U> jMyles: I'd love to know how it happened as well.
[20:35] <CitrusFlower> executing "vlc" initializes a program in the prompt that says "vlc media player 1.1.12". I wanna get rid of it but I've already done apt-get remove vlc
[20:35] <jMyles> compdoc: I used unetbootin for this one.  Do you think that might have something to do with it?
[20:35] <Angelic``> Thank you folks.
[20:36] <compdoc> maybe unetbootin isnt ready for raring?
[20:36] <Angelic``> Ubuntu is too damn complicated. I am going back to Windows. Thanks for the help folks.
[20:36] <compdoc> heh
[20:36] <bucky> what version of ubuntu are you running
[20:36] <betrayd>  learning curve,1
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> mustafa_,  Nope I refer user to the ubuntu forum for UEFI, it is a waste of time here.
[20:36] <Angelic``> bucky: Ubuntu 12.10
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> users*
[20:37] <Nothing_Much> What's complicated about Ubuntu?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> not much
[20:37] <ardian> Hi I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed and I want to install the last version of KDE 4.10, how do I install it
[20:37] <thesilence84> freaking suspend is whats complicated
[20:37] <Angelic``> Nothing_Much: Everything is 'command-based'. I am used of everything being just about GUI based which is Windows.
[20:37] <thesilence84> its driving me nuts
[20:38] <bazhang> ardian, try in #kubuntu
[20:38] <bucky> when you installed 12-10 did you do a fresh install or upgrade
[20:38] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: Are you actually able to interact with the grub menu at boot or has the firmware still not initialised the keyboard at that point?
[20:38] <AbdullahDean> hi, i just registered my name for the first time. what should i do now?
[20:38] <Nothing_Much> Command-based is easy once you get the hang of it, learning something new is obviously gonna take some time, but I do somewhat agree that there needs to be more GUI based stuff.
[20:39] <compdoc> Angelic``, there can be some command line stuff setting it up I gues, but there are guis for most things
[20:39] <brian__> betrayd, well, no idea.  No matter what I put in the bash script, it only wants to put one browser up at a time.  Maybe there is something to chromium not wanted to have two windows open without a cmdline argument added
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> AbdullahDean, wait a couple of weeks and ask for a cloak in #freenode
[20:39] <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu actually was one of the first distros that had a GUI for an installer
[20:39] <AbdullahDean> thanks wilee. what's a cloak?
[20:39] <Nothing_Much> What problems, specifically did you have Angelic``?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> AbdullahDean, It hides user info like your IP.
[20:40] <Nothing_Much> *Angelic``
[20:40] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: I can interact with it
[20:40] <AbdullahDean> thanx
[20:40] <Angelic``> Is there a way I can transfer all my media from Ubuntu without losing it on my way back to Windows
[20:41] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: OK, then it sounds like all we need to do is add a proper entry to grub that will boot Windows via UEFI.
[20:41] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: It's just directly after the Vaio Logo I get Grub. Note that I changed my BIOS settings from UEFI to legacy.
[20:41] <Angelic``> back to Windows 8*
[20:41] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: I don't want to boot windows. I want to boot USB Flash drive to reinstall Ubuntu again.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> AbdullahDean, There are channel commands to do other things, you can look on here, http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[20:41] <jMyles> Jordan_U, compdoc: I see no evidence of any sort.  Shall I try chrooting and installing the latest kernel package?
[20:41] <Nothing_Much> External hard drive dude
[20:41] <Jordan_U> jMyles: Yes.
[20:42] <Jordan_U> jMyles: What is the creation time on that kernel file? What is the creation time of other files in /boot/?
[20:42] <brian__> betrayd, well that wasnt it.  When I alt+f4 the first browser, then it loads the xterm window in the opposite monitor.  I feel like it is so close.
[20:42] <Nothing_Much> Angelic``, do you have an external drive?
[20:42] <betrayd> brian__: it
[20:42] <betrayd> still doing things in sequence?
[20:42] <jMyles> Jordan_U: April 9 12:53
[20:43] <jMyles> Jordan_U: For the vmlinuz.  The initrd is today at 19:12
[20:43] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: So you're currently booting Ubuntu via BIOS (with CSM), is your Windows installation UEFI based or BIOS based?
[20:44] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: I have no OS installed other than Ubuntu.
[20:44] <brian__> betrayd, hot damn!  I was missing the & on the first line after I changed it to load xterm on the second line... Now it works with chrome in the right and xterm in the left!
[20:44] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: Ahh, I understand now.
[20:44] <brian__> betrayd, I've been killing myself and its a chromium thing
[20:44] <jMyles> Jordan_U: I have forgotten how to do a simple chroot and install a package.  Is there a link with simple instructions?
[20:44] <betrayd> brian__: w00t progress
[20:44] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody tell me why I get a black screen on TF2 when I use the Nouveau drivers?
[20:44] <betrayd> brian__: sure you want to stay with one type of browser
[20:44] <Angelic``> Nothing_Much: I have a flash drive and that is it..
[20:45] <betrayd> brian__: for troubleshooting
[20:45] <brian__> betrayd, Well, I am checking for some argument for specify the window name or something to avoid a double creation.  If that doesnt work, I'll use firefox too for testing
[20:46] <betrayd> brian__: ok
[20:46] <Nothing_Much> Angelic`` then you either need to re-download everything, use a Cloud service, or learn more about Ubuntu/Linux in general.
[20:46] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: Unfortunately, if the only way to get back to your boot firmware's setup screens is by changing a UEFI variable (which is how you did it before, or rather what Windows did to get the menu to show at the next boot), you can only change UEFI variables from an OS that was booted via UEFI.
[20:46] <netlar> How would I share a folder between users on the same computer?
[20:46] <carrera> which version of 13.04 do I need to detect RAID 0 partitions created with 12.04?
[20:46] <lmat> netlar: Add them both to the same group?
[20:46] <betrayd> Angelic``: yeah its kind of a commitment, learning curve and all...
[20:46] <Jordan_U> carrera: Server or mini.iso.
[20:47] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: And since I can't boot from any device other than HDD, I am stuck forever with my current OS :D ?
[20:47] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, but take that chance, I did it with both OS X and a buncha different distros
[20:47] <Nothing_Much> It's pretty neat once you have the knowledge to work around almost every OS/Desktop environment
[20:47] <netlar> Do I do that in terminal?
[20:48] <betrayd> netlar: most times, a filemanager would let you browse
[20:48] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: If the only way to get back to your fimrmware configuration screens is by changing UEFI variables, yes. I doubt that's the only way though. Have you looked at your motherboard's documentation, or called the company's tech support?
[20:49] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: No, I'll search for it.
[20:49] <mustafa_> Jordan_U: Thanks...
[20:49] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks u sir.  I don't want to install the server for reason that I can tell u later but I tried the mini.iso lastnight.  I didn't even have to use the nomodeset option to bypass the Nouveau driver (it crashes with my nVidia M360 ). However, mini.iso did NOT detect my wireless card. Does it need Ethernet?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> mustafa_: Also, you can install any other OS you want, you'll just have to jump through a lot of hoops to do so without being able to boot from any other media.
[20:49] <lmat> netlar: If you're addressing me, please write my nick so I'll see it :)
[20:49] <lmat> netlar: I do everything in framebuffer ^_^
[20:49] <Jordan_U> carrera: Yes, IIRC it needs an ethernet connection.
[20:50] <SupaYoshi> Hi does anyone know how to select the best apt-get servers? I am using a vps, and it's connecting with IPV6 to archive.ubuntu.com
[20:50] <Angelic``> betrayd: Exactly which is why I learned my lesson when I ditched Windows.
[20:50] <SupaYoshi> But its really slow
[20:50] <SupaYoshi> So I cant really install anything easily with apt-get :P
[20:50] <carrera> Jordan_U, IIRC?
[20:50] <SupaYoshi> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
[20:50] <SupaYoshi> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::22)]
[20:50] <SupaYoshi> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::22)
[20:50] <netlar> lmat: sorry
[20:50] <supertough> to change from left button menu to right gsettings set org.gnome.shell.overrides button-layout ":minimize,maximize,close"
[20:50] <Jordan_U> carrera: If I Recall Correctly
[20:51] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks!  :)
[20:51] <betrayd> Angelic``: ouch
[20:51] <Jordan_U> carrera: You're welcome :)
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> !paste > SupaYoshi
[20:51] <lomo7> why when i set on bios boot from usb to install ubuntu, it loads automatic the current ubutnu??
[20:51] <carrera> Jordan_U,  you're awesome!
[20:51] <SupaYoshi> Thnx
[20:51] <CitrusFlower> I've added ppa:videolan/stable-daily and disabled all other software sources, and yet apt-cache policy vlc shows nothing
[20:52] <lomo7> I can't boot from any USB device after installing ubuntu...
[20:52] <SupaYoshi> I didnt know you could do that.
[20:52] <SupaYoshi> I tried to make it as small as i could already :P
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, Sometimes that happens use the oer session boot outside the bios.
[20:52] <CitrusFlower> It says "(none)" both for installed and candidate
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> per*
[20:52] <lomo7> wilee-nilee: how can i force it to boot from usb?
[20:52] <carrera> Jordan_U, unfortunately, I don't have access to Ethernet in my apartment so I have to go over to my little cousin's place to try the mini.iso.
[20:53] <CitrusFlower> I've added ppa:videolan/stable-daily and also updated apt-get. Still apt-cache policy vlc gives nothing
[20:53] <lameuser> iàm trying to
[20:53] <carrera> Why did they get rid of the alternate?
[20:53] <lmat> netlar: So, if I'm correct, place both users in the same group (see /etc/group) then, have the file you want both to be able to access be owned by that group
[20:53] <lmat> netlar: kapish?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> lomo7, Not sure of a force but try the boot from menu I mentioned mine is accessed with f12 at powering on yours may be different.
[20:53] <Jordan_U> carrera: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html
[20:54] <netlar> lmat: I hope so
[20:54] <Layke> Permission question.. Can I set a directory to chown.. nobody:nogroup and set chmod to 600... I want a read only directory for FTP
[20:54] <Atum> Test
[20:54] <bazhang> !permissions | Layke
[20:55] <SupaYoshi> Anyone know how to swithc to IPV4 for ubuntu update servers? (apt-get update, etc)
[20:55] <bazhang> Atum, try #test
[20:55] <SupaYoshi> Its using IPV6 and its really slow
[20:55] <Atum> #test
[20:55] <lomo7> wilee-nilee: f12 not responding..
[20:55] <lomo7> for menu..
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> CitrusFlower, oneric s not in that ppa.
[20:55] <carrera> Jordan_U, are u one of the devs?
[20:56] <Jordan_U> carrera: No.
[20:56] <lnostdal> hi, ok  13.04 has horrible graphics performance  (Intel GPU here) ..    is there some way to fix this or downgrade to 12.10?
[20:56] <CitrusFlower> wilee-nilee: ok thx. I give up
[20:56] <bazhang> lnostdal, downgrade is full reinstall
[20:56] <lnostdal> ok, perhaps i'll do that then ..    this is useless
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> CitrusFlower, Have you considered upgrading 12.04 will get you vlc 2 and 5 years support.
[20:57] <CitrusFlower> wilee-nilee: I say this once. Everytime I update ubuntu my system gets deeply f*cked up for weeks to come
[20:58] <CitrusFlower> wilee-nilee: No offense, but that is entering a sh*t hole with no ending in sight
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> CitrusFlower, Please don't swear and do a fresh install.
[20:58] <compdoc> I run apt-get upgrade a lot
[20:58] <Jordan_U> CitrusFlower: Please watch your langue (askterisks or not).
[20:58] <supertough> ubuntu loves to install junks into your system
[20:58] <CitrusFlower> wilee-nilee: ok no swearing. But fresh install is the worst kind
[20:58] <supertough> I don't use evolution uninstall that will also get rid of ubuntu unity
[21:00] <Angelic``> peace folks!
[21:00] <supertough> gnome-do is amazing better than Unity Lens
[21:02] <Jordan_U> CitrusFlower: Staying on one release forever is not tenable, especially not a non-LTS release, and especially not if you want the latest versions of software.
[21:03] <tsquar3d_> Hey... I lost unity somehow.. window borders, toolbar, etc.
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> !details > tsquar3d_
[21:06] <lmat> What is ubuntu alternate? I'm looking at the alternate downloads page and see server, desktop, and alternate.
[21:06] <jMyles> I just installed linux-headers-generic, but it did not put a new vmlinuz file in my /boot.  Is it supposed to?
[21:07] <lmat> Is it a different set of software? A text-based installation script?
[21:07] <betrayd> jMyles: no just header
[21:07] <lmat> oh sure, right after I ask I find.  Nevermind!
[21:07] <Jordan_U> jMyles: No. linux-headers is a bunch of .h files.
[21:08] <lmat> Looks like it has a different installation routine so that you can choose more options or something.
[21:08] <Jordan_U> jMyles: Install linux-image
[21:08] <jMyles> Jordan_U: So what do I do?  To get the new vmlinuz file to go there?
[21:08] <lmat> I guess this is how I would go about creating a really lean ubuntu installation?
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> lmat, The alternate is a net install now I believe.
[21:08] <jMyles> Jordan_U: Oh really? :-\  Well I already rebooted and I have no network connection again.  Can I just run make from /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic?
[21:09] <lmat> wilee-nilee: ahh, good to know :)
[21:09] <compdoc> jMyles, Im not sure what youre going to use the system for, but I would just reinstall. what if other things are hosed now?
[21:09] <nibbler_> wilee-nilee: resolved it - with a live-usb actually, but not with its live (linux) part, just just with a working grub i found on it (/ is bcached and encrypted, so not too easy to fix with a random live cd...)
[21:09] <Jordan_U> jMyles: No.
[21:09] <jMyles> compdoc: Will reinstalling fix it?  I got where I am by reinstalling.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> nibbler_, Ah, cool,
[21:10] <compdoc> jMyles, well, that needs fixing too
[21:11] <compdoc> jMyles, Im just thinking there may be references to that wrong kernel in other places
[21:12] <compdoc> doubtful your installer stopped there
[21:14] <AbdullahDean> what are some good irc channels
[21:14] <AbdullahDean> ?
[21:14] <compdoc> good for what purpose?
[21:14] <bazhang> !alis | AbdullahDean
[21:14] <AbdullahDean> good for learning about linux
[21:15] <AbdullahDean> thanks
[21:16] <jMyles> Jordan_U: Installing linux-image still doesn't seem to do it.  How can I repopulate my /boot?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> jMyles, If you are crooting to add the kernel are you running update-grub
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> chrooting*
[21:17] <compdoc> The update-grub command is used to generate and update the menu.lst
[21:17] <jMyles> wilee-nilee: Well I don't want to run update-grub until I have the right vmlinuz
[21:17] <tgm4883> Is there an ISO somewhere for a 32-bit iMac?
[21:18] <tannji> any twitter experts in here?  = )
[21:18] <netlar> Imat: I added a new group that both users belong to
[21:19] <netlar> Imat: but now how do I add a folder to that group so that both users have access to that folder
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, I think this is a 32 bit. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, can I use the standard i386 iso?
[21:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, the mac one is 64-bit
[21:21] <s3b`> Hey, compiz is using so much CPU usage on idle that it makes it pretty much unusable http://i.imgur.com/UF9Tpiz.png
[21:21] <s3b`> Idles at 40-60% and spikes to 100% anytime something is clicked
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, look on the bottom of the list, ah I just saw a link from the forums that linked to ubuntu,com for a 32 bit, hold on.
[21:21] <lmat> Just to let you know, the alternate installation is a waste of time. If you can, just stick to the desktop one ^_^
[21:21] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, I'm burning a 32-bit regular iso as a test
[21:22] <Jordan_U> jMyles: "apt-get update" first so that it installs a new kernel package, or "sudo apt-get remove --reinstall linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic".
[21:22] <hd5770> is Ubuntu safe to use on a ssd ?
[21:22] <ThatOneRoadie> hd5770: Yes, but don't forget to consider whether or not you want to trim the SSD
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, I believe it works.
[21:23] <ThatOneRoadie> See http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[21:23] <ThatOneRoadie> tgm4883: 32-bit ISOs will work on 64-bit hardware, but not the other way around.
[21:24] <jMyles> Jordan_U: You just barely beat me to it.  I had just run that command when your comment popped up. :-)
[21:25] <jMyles> Jordan_U: So yeah, that did it.  Now to reboot.
[21:25] <tgm4883> ThatOneRoadie, right, but this is specifically for an Imac, which IDK if that differs or not
[21:26] <s3b`> can you get unity 2d on ubuntu 13.04"
[21:26] <s3b`> ?*
[21:26] <ThatOneRoadie> tgm4883: Nope! Hooray for standards in processor design!
[21:26] <bazhang> !info unity-2d | s3b`
[21:27] <tgm4883> ThatOneRoadie, well, specifically what I mean is that there is a special AMD64 Mac ISO, but not a i386 Mac ISO
[21:27] <tgm4883> ThatOneRoadie, but it does look like I can boot the regular desktop i386 ISO on an iMac, which makes me wonder why a special ISO is needed for AMD64 iMacs
[21:29] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Because the 32 bit image doesn't have UEFI support, while the 64 bit image does (yes, I meant exactly what I said :).
[21:29] <matzipan> anyone around from the ubunt-sdk team/
[21:29] <tgm4883> Jordan_U, that is what I thought, but I don't know enough about iMacs to know if the 32-bit ones use UEFI or not
[21:30] <hd5770> ThatOneRoadie guess i need TRIM to save the life of my SSD
[21:31] <Neytiri> how long should a fresh install of 12.4 take
[21:31] <Laidback_Guy> anyone here alive?
[21:31] <matzipan> Neytiri: 30 mins
[21:31] <matzipan> hey guys, anyone from the ubuntu-sdk team?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: 32 bit intel Macs use EFI (which is not quite the same as UEFI), as do 64 bit intel macs. But their EFI implementation (on earlier machines) doesn't handle disks designed to be bootable with both UEFI (What new non-mac PC's use instead of BIOS) and BIOS systems.
[21:32] <Neytiri> ok then theremust be somethign wrong casue its been close to an hour and its not even close yet
[21:32] <tgm4883> Jordan_U, ah, good to know
[21:32] <brian__> betrayd, thanks for your help.. I am getting a little at a time.  I have them both loaded now, I had to specify --user-data-dir=/blah for them to load in seperate instances.  I need to config them now as all, they are loading with some crazy window sizes
[21:32] <tannji> hd5770:  Read this, it helped me on my install  http://preview.tinyurl.com/ctk2vbu
[21:33] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: So, ironically, by removing [U]EFI support in the image, it allows Apple's firware to not choke, and lets it boot via their BIOS implementation.
[21:33] <chaos7theory> If /proc/cpuinfo is reporting the wrong frequency, is that a bug I should report?
[21:33] <tgm4883> Jordan_U, so in other words... Bad Apple, no cookie
[21:33] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: :)
[21:33] <Geveze-User-203> s.a
[21:34] <Geveze-User-203> hi
[21:34] <betrayd> brian__: some apps work with --geometry WxH+X+Y just in case. Best o luck
[21:34] <Geveze-User-203> :)
[21:34] <usr13_> Jordan_U: (or to whom it may concern):  Why can't a 32bit ISO be burned to a USB stick that is partitioned with GTP scheme?
[21:34] <tannji> hd5770:  oops, meant this link:  http://tinyurl.com/ctk2vbu
[21:37] <Jordan_U> usr13_: 1: iso files aren't "burned" to USB drives, they're either copied bit for bit to the drive (via dd) or their contents are copied as files to a filesystem on the USB drive, and then a bootloader is installed to the drive. 2: You can make a 32 bit Ubuntu LiveUSB with a drive using GPT, if not with Ubuntu's startup disk creater (I've never tried) then with grub manually.
[21:40] <usr13_> Jordan_U: I stand corrected, the term "burned" is not accurate in reguards to creating USB installer.
[21:42] <usr13_> Jordan_U: ... I only used the term burned in an attempt to be breif
[21:43] <chaos7theory> usr13_: I wouldn't suggest partitioning a USB with GPT as as I understand it uses more overhead due to the protective MBR it also uses and having the table on both the beginning and the end of the disk for anti-corruption sakes. GPTs would be more useful on a hard drive where you expect to use more than 4 primary partitions. Most importantly, GPT isn't so widely compatible outside of Linux. For isntance, in Windows it only can be writ
[21:43] <chaos7theory> ten over with 64-bit Windows using UEFI, which in turn is only supporting for 7+.
[21:43] <chaos7theory> On top of that, I don't believe Mac, as well as Windows, supports detecting and mounting multiple partitions from a USB Drive.
[21:44] <bambam1> Is it just me or is Ubuntu Software Center very slow? I'm able to install everything I need really quickly with synaptic (or through apt-get), but for some reason Ubuntu Software Center is painfully slow
[21:44] <usr13_> chaos7theory: How do we create a UEFI System Partition?  (Do you have an alternative?)
[21:44] <chaos7theory> You'd have to use a partitioning software to make sure only the needed partition is primary whereas the rest are logical.
[21:45] <chaos7theory> usr13_: What're you trying to do exactly?
[21:45] <usr13_> chaos7theory: If you do not know what the conversation is about, why then did you enter it?
[21:46] <hd5770> tannji coool
[21:46] <chaos7theory> usr13_: Just a heads up on avoiding GPT unnecessarily for flash drives
[21:46] <linuxuz3r> i have written a server and client program in java. when i connect to localhost and router ip i get connected but when i use my isp ip i cannot get connected. does anyone know how to setup windows firewall so that when i connect to my isp ip i can get connected?
[21:46] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu firewall even
[21:47] <tannji> bambam1: which version of Ubuntu?
[21:48] <Turk> hi
[21:48] <Jordan_U> chaos7theory: usr13_: GPT loses you at most 1 MiB in a drive, that's tiny on almost any drive. Windows Vista+ supports reading and writing to GPT disks on BIOS based systems, just not booting from them. OSX handles multiple partitions on a GPT drive just as well (in a few small ways better than) as it does with msdos labeled drives, and Windows handles multiple parititons on removable media just as well (see: poorly) with GPT and ...
[21:48] <bambam1> tannji: 13.04, fresh install
[21:48] <Jordan_U> ... msdos labeled disks.
[21:49] <SupaYoshi> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::22)] <---- This takes so long
[21:49] <tannji> bambam1:  ah...  well, if its any consolation, USC was a lot slower on 12.10, lol  It seems to run fine for me now on 13.04 with ssd drives.
[21:49] <bambam1> tannji: Synaptic seems to run orders of magnitude quicker
[21:50] <bambam1> Does it take a long time because USC has to ask Amazon and Canonical's other ad partners if it's okay?
[21:50] <tannji> Bam, that it does.
[21:50] <tannji> lmao
[21:50] <tannji> could be...  have them all disabled tho
[21:51] <Jordan_U> linuxuz3r: Unfortunately that sounds like a problem with your router/modem (a common one) rather than with Ubuntu.
[21:51] <linuxuz3r> ok
[21:51] <bambam1> tannji: How do I disable them? I stopped using USC when it first came out because it was a disaster back then, thinking about giving it a second chance
[21:52] <matzipan> anyone familiar with the SDKHelper qt component? I'm trying to run an app that depends on it. It cannot find it... sorry for spamming the channel. I'm a bit desperate
[21:52] <chaos7theory> Jordan_U: I can attest to personal experience that Windows has no (built-in) support for multiple partitions, as I use them all the time. I have to use third-party software to change the flags of the partitions around so as to mount a different partition @_@
[21:53] <Jordan_U> linuxuz3r: Going back a little, at the very least you'll need to enable port forwarding if your router uses NAT, but even then you might only be able to connect using your internet facing ip if you're connecting from another machine from the outside (rather that going out to your router and back into your own network, which for some reason many home routers/modems seem to choke on even though it should be valid).
[21:53] <SupaYoshi> How can i fix that?
[21:54] <SupaYoshi> I've another server and its really fast on that.
[21:54] <trism> matzipan: might ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[21:54] <tannji> bambam1:  try this:  http://tinyurl.com/bthkdf6
[21:54] <Jordan_U> chaos7theory: I never said otherwise, I just said that it's not an issue of GPT vs msodos partition labels.
[21:54] <bambam1> tannji: Thanks
[21:54] <linuxuz3r> jordan can you try my java program
[21:54] <tannji> bambam1:  np  = )
[21:55] <Jordan_U> linuxuz3r: I'm sorry, but no.
[21:55] <linuxuz3r> Jordan_U,  can you try my java program
[21:57] <Ponch0> j
[21:57] <matzipan> trism: thanks
[21:57] <Ponch0> woot we can ask questions about 13.04 here now, it's no longer taboo
[21:58] <Ponch0> sacrilege ubuntu 13.04!
[22:00] <lmat> What is the best way to get a minimal ubuntu system going? No libre office, etc.
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> lmat, Use the netload and install just / and add what yoo want.
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> you*
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> maybe fluxbox or a super light de
[22:02] <donvito2> sorry, unity 2d is lil bit laggy on my ubuntu 12.04 what should i install , kde or gnome 3.8
[22:03] <SupaYoshi> fixed
[22:03] <SupaYoshi> disabled ipv6
[22:03] <SupaYoshi> very nice now lol
[22:03] <OerHeks> disable IPv6 saved me 9 sec boottime
[22:04] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> donvito2, kde will not run any faster most likely, 3.8 is in development and only in a ppa.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> and not the full 3.8
[22:04] <Ponch0> how the hell do I shut that stupid scroll bar off that appears never
[22:05] <donvito2> so i should stay on unity 2d?
[22:05] <whjms> Ponch0: I believe MyUnity may have an option for bringing the true scroll bar back
[22:05] <Ponch0> whjms: thank you.
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> donvito2, Why would you ask us what you should do?
[22:06] <donvito2> cause its laggy!
[22:06] <donvito2> so i need help!
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> donvito, experiment like the rest of us and use what you like. ;)
[22:07] <whjms> Ponch0: sorry, I don't think MyUnity actually lets you restore the scroll bar. here's some options: http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/classic-scrollbars/
[22:07] <donvito2> eh wilee-nilee :)
[22:08] <jMyles> compdoc, Jordan_U: I reinstalled.  Same exact problem.
[22:08] <Ponch0> whjms: thank you very much.
[22:08] <Jordan_U> jMyles: Did you say that you installed from a LiveUSB?
[22:08] <jMyles> Jordan_U: Yes.
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> whjms, Yes it does.
[22:09] <Jordan_U> jMyles: When you boot the LiveUSB does it give you the option of performing an integrity check?
[22:09] <whjms> wilee-nilee: huh. thanks
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> change remove to install and the next command to the original.
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> one or the other.
[22:10] <Ponch0> whjms: when I remove the scroll bar will another be replaced automatically, that site shows how to remove it but I'm not sure if that will just mess me up.
[22:11] <OerHeks> Ponch0, resart your browser after the tweak
[22:11] <sigurd> is it ok to run both windows and ubuntu from the same partition?
[22:11] <OerHeks> *restart
[22:11] <Ponch0> 0erHeks: thank you.
[22:11] <trism> Ponch0: for 13.04 all you need is: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal;
[22:12] <Ponch0> trism: that worked flawlessly
[22:12] <Ponch0> true win win
[22:12] <bambam1> There is literally nothing that brings my system (Quad core i5, 8 gigs of ram) to its knees, except Ubuntu Software Center. This is absurd.
[22:12] <donvito2> wilee-nilee wich version of gnome is stable
[22:12] <Jordan_U> sig-wall: It's not possible (*ignoring Wubi and other odd, not-recommended things).
[22:12] <whjms> bambam1: is it updating in the background?
[22:12] <bambam1> whjms: No
[22:12] <bambam1> er
[22:13] <bambam1> sorry, yes, it is
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> donvito2, Any in the releases is
[22:13] <bambam1> I'm having it install three packages
[22:13] <donvito2> okeyy
[22:13] <bambam1> It is painfully slow when compared to  synpatic or apt-get
[22:13] <Guest1638> i've installed ubuntu with wubi on the same partition as windows by mistake
[22:13] <Rhenzar> Sorry for the unrelated question, but does anyone here know of any law-related IRC chat?
[22:13] <Rhenzar> I don't use IRC very often, wouldn't know where to start.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> !alis | Rhenzar
[22:14] <stephenmac7> I'm having trouble running eclipse in 13.04: # Problematic frame: # C  [libsoup-2.4.so.1+0x6e009]  soup_session_feature_detach+0x19
[22:14] <s3b`> How can I enable desktop switching animation on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:14] <s3b`> workspace*
[22:14] <Rhenzar> Jordan_U: Thanks, man
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Rhenzar: You're welcome. In the future, #freenode is for general freenode support.
[22:15] <stephenmac7> No one?
[22:15] <Maccer> Hrm. I rebooted ubuntu, and now it won't boot anymore. On the screen there are some messages involving AppArmor and DhClient where it black screens afterwards. I'm also using raring so I'm not sure if this is the right channel.
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> stephenmac7, Thats one minute you will never get back. ;)
[22:17] <stephenmac7> wilee-nilee: What do you mean?
[22:17] <Maccer> I can't access any virtual terminals so I have to alt+sysrq+REISUB
[22:18] <bambam1> whjms: Is it slow for you?
[22:18] <bambam1> (USC that is)
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> stephenmac7, You waited 65 seconds to ask anyone.
[22:18] <Maccer> Maybe this is an issue with the .19 kernel. I had .17 installed so now I think it's booting.
[22:18] <Maccer> Yup, weird kernel bug. I'm not sure how to contact now.
[22:19] <stephenmac7> wilee-nilee: What's wrong with that?
[22:19] <whjms> bambam1: not for me right now, but it seems that it does hitch up every once in a while, unfortunately
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> stephenmac7, actually 35 seconds, you have to have patience. ;)
[22:20] <stephenmac7> wilee-nilee: Problem is this channel is so flooded that no one sees anything
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> stephenmac7, Not true I can see everything since I loged in.
[22:20] <stephenmac7> Right, but it never seems like anyone looks back
[22:20] <bernardo> Hello everybody! I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.04 and nvidia driver, and I haven't found an answer in forums. Can someone help me please?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> stephenmac7: If nobody knows the answer to your question, nobody will answer. I saw your original post, but didn't reply because I can't help.
[22:22] <stephenmac7> Jordan_U: I see.
[22:22] <Idiot_Astronaut> Hello everybody
[22:22] <stephenmac7> Well, I think it was better to ask in the eclipse channel
[22:22] <carrera> bernardo, Hi. User the nomodeset kernel option to boot the installation. Then apt-get nvidia-current
[22:22] <trism> stephenmac7: I see bug 1167708 but no real info there yet
[22:23] <stephenmac7> trism: I got an answer in the eclipse channel
[22:23] <stephenmac7> A temporary fix
[22:23] <bernardo> carrera: how do I do that?
[22:23] <SolarBoom> Hi everyone, I installed apache, but can't find where to config
[22:23] <Idiot_Astronaut> I'd like to connect a kvm guest to the internet through bridging, I've added tap interface to the bridge and can ping/ssh from the host to the guest
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> bernardo, Can you boot to the desktop?
[22:24] <Idiot_Astronaut> but still no internet access (gateway from the guest is set to the bridge ip), do any of you guys succeeded in getting this to work?
[22:24] <Idiot_Astronaut> thanks
[22:24] <SolarBoom> where located who knows?
[22:24] <bernardo> wilee-nilee: I can, but there's no dash or anything
[22:25] <carrera> bernardo, are u installing from a USB?
[22:25] <bernardo> I upgraded from 12.10
[22:25] <bernardo> As soon as I upgraded it stopped working
[22:25] <bernardo> carrera: Ass soon as I upgraded it stopped working
[22:26] <bernardo> carrega: And I'm pretty sure it's this nvidia optimous thing becasue it has given be problems with 12.10 as well
[22:26] <SolarBoom> hey guys! httpd.conf where located who knows?
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> bernardo, Can you cntrl-alt-t a terminal and run software-properties-gtk to get to the additional driver in software sources.
[22:26] <carrera> bernardo, do u remember installing the nvidia proprietary driver?
[22:27] <carrera> bernardo, I'm talking about on 12.10
[22:27] <bernardo> carrera, yes I did. I had it running with bumblebee
[22:27] <bernardo> wilee-nilee: Which sources should I change?
[22:28] <anderson> boa noite
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> bernardo, You mention bumblebee, I'm not sure on the setup there.
[22:28] <Guest66531> why is there a message in the lower right corner saying that AMD unsupported hardware? I dont use AMD.
[22:29]  * TheFakeazneD525 looks at the list of names.....
[22:29] <anderson> oi
[22:30] <bernardo> wilee-nilee: I have the whole thing uninstalled now. Do you have any idea on how to recover my bars?
[22:30] <keithzg> Hmmm, trying to boot my Nexus 7 into recovery mode, but I can hold vol+/vol-/pwr for eons and nothing happens. Whether it's on, off, whether it's plugged in or not . . . sigh.
[22:30] <TheFakeazneD525> well just came here for no reason.....
[22:30] <bernardo> wilee-nilee: it's not like I reeeeeaally nee the graphics card on ubuntu for that much
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> bernardo, The key for help though is identifying the associated hardware here. I'm not your best help with your setup as well. ;)
[22:31] <PoolShark_1> hi
[22:31] <bin_bash> hi
[22:32] <bernardo> wilee-nilee: I see. Oh well, thanks for your help though!
[22:32] <kieppie> hi folks
[22:32] <Nerdent1ty> Hello!
[22:32] <PoolShark_1> I'm having some trouble with raid on ubuntu 12.04 desktop... looking at mdstat it is just constantly rebuilding
[22:32] <bernardo> carrera: Do you have any idea?
[22:32] <PoolShark_1> all day it's just rebuilding rebuilding rebuilding
[22:33] <Nerdent1ty> QUESTION: Why ambiance separators are uglishly-white in toolbars, like gedit, rhythmbox, etc? Thanks
[22:33] <mikolajeg> hi
[22:33] <PoolShark_1> is it normal for a new raid array to take so long to set up?
[22:34] <bin_bash> PoolShark_1, what kind of RAID?
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> keithzg, You want #ubuntu-touch is if you have ubuntu installed on it
[22:34] <kieppie> I tried doing the upgrade to 13.04 over the weekend & it has now borked my netbook. it's a btrfs on a SSD. it "ran out of space" & lots of digging around showed it was a snapshot-issue - *very* inintuitive! now, when I try to remove the old snapshot, I get btrfs core dumps & "failed to find block number ###"
[22:34] <PoolShark_1> bin_bash: it's just a bunch of drives I put in a kernel raid with mdadm
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> keithzg, Do you have fastboot installed?
[22:35] <bin_bash> PoolShark_1, how long is it taking?
[22:35] <donvito2> 13.04 its out? damn thats the 13 version that i dont have it on my machine :))
[22:35] <PoolShark_1> bin_bash: i don't know maybe 3 hours so far
[22:35] <PoolShark_1> bin_bash: and only at 55%
[22:36] <keithzg> wilee-nilee: You mean do I have fastboot on my PC? (I don't have Ubuntu installed on it yet; want access to recovery first so I can set up a dual-boot or such).
[22:36] <bin_bash> PoolShark_1, hm idk. maybe someone else knows.
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> keithzg, dual booting is not the same on the nexus.
[22:37] <Nerdent1ty> Hello. I cannot seem to fix the white separators in Ambiance theme (in rhythmbox, gedit, etc)
[22:37] <Nerdent1ty> is anyone familiar with this?
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> keithzg, This is ubuntu support, the only ubuntu stuff is at #ubuntu-touch if you want to install, and use a multirom setuo.
[22:37] <hmms> any good backup soultions for ubuntu
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> setup*
[22:38] <hmms> i need to format and reinstall ubuntu
[22:38] <PoolShark_1> so nobody? :(
[22:40] <wanksta> if i have ubuntu 12.04 can   be able to upgrade to 13.04
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> wanksta, I believe you have to go through 12.10 to get there. 12.04 has the longest support though.
[22:41] <neoark> 12.10 has till next year
[22:41] <neoark> april 2014
[22:41] <neoark> 13.04 is only 9 months
[22:42] <histo> wanksta: yes you will go to 12.10 to 13.04  Incremental releases are always upgraded one at a time. The only time you can jump is LTS to LTS like 10.04 to 12.04 or to 14.04 etc..
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> hmms, there are number of backups you can use I just save a pckg list of installs and the sources.list and sources.list.d for reinstalls.
[22:43] <histo> !backup | hmms
[22:44] <histo> !clone | hmms
[22:44] <Guest28002> Is ntfs suppoeted on Ubuntu? I have two hard drives that I will connect to Windows 7 but also make available for Ubuntu. Is ntfs the way to go or should I format them another way
[22:44] <histo> Guest28002: yes it supported
[22:45] <histo> Guest28002: You should be able to mount them out of the box
[22:45] <bin_bash> Guest28002, you should not use ntfs for linux.
[22:46] <histo> Guest28002: the other option is going ext3 and installing a ext3 filesystem extender for windows
[22:46] <bin_bash> Guest28002, I misread your query. you should be able to mount NTFS in Ubuntu, however, it may be as read-only.
[22:47] <PoolShark_1> yeah I would not try the still experimental write access ntfs mode in ubuntu
[22:47] <histo> bin_bash: you can write to ntfs in linux
[22:47] <PoolShark_1> in linux, yes
[22:47] <PoolShark_1> but we're talking abotu ubuntu
[22:47] <histo> Guest28002: bin_bash PoolShark_1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS#Linux
[22:47] <bin_bash> histo, sure with the right tools
[22:47] <bin_bash> but you may have to install them
[22:48] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[22:48] <Dr_willis> ntfs-3g is installed by default i recall
[22:48] <rodger_nc> I just updated to 13.04 from the last version 12.10?? and my video works to log into the new OS but when I start an application - most of the time - the video is completely jumbled - I tried resetting the display in system settings but that did not help - not an admin - what do I do....
[22:48] <histo> rodger_nc: if you are not an admin how did you upgrade?
[22:49] <rodger_nc> home computer
[22:49] <Guest28002> hmm.. So what is the recommendation ... ntfs? Id hate to do this twice
[22:49] <histo> rodger_nc: what kind of video card do you have?
[22:49] <rodger_nc> not an admin - meaning not a newbe but not experienced
[22:49] <Jeruvy> Guest28002 you shouldn't have to do anything special to use those volumes.
[22:49] <Dr_willis> Guest28002,  what are  You trying to do ecxactly?
[22:50] <histo> Guest28002: Either way you have to trust some other file system interface with ext3 or ntfs.  With ntfs the fuse driver will be used in linux. With ext3 you'd have to add support to windows. The choice is yours.
[22:50] <Jeruvy> Guest28002 permissions are always worth reviewing before transfering.
[22:50] <PoolShark_1> I'm still downloading 13.04 on my 1.5mbit DSL
[22:50] <histo> Guest28002: if it were me I'd just use ntfs and be done with it.  Keep in mind that checking the drive in the event of an error will require windows
[22:51] <histo> Guest28002: or fat32
[22:51] <rodger_nc> I can't run the
[22:51] <histo> PoolShark_1: the mirrors get hammered when a new release comes out
[22:51] <histo> PoolShark_1: torrents are the way to go.
[22:51] <histo> rodger_nc: lspci | pastebinit
[22:52] <Guest28002> ok.. thanks all.. ntfs it is... Ubuntu is at this point a "maybe I'll do it at some point"
[22:52] <KommaH> I just issued a command, wfconfig, to connect to a WEP WiFi network. Is there a way I can check my internal IP to see if the connection was successful?
[22:52] <KommaH> Please note that the WiFi doesn't offer any internet access. It's just a network.
[22:52] <PoolShark_1> histo: torrents won't make my 1.5mbit connection any faster
[22:52] <rodger_nc> histo: NVIDIA
[22:52] <Dr_willis> Guest28002,  ive not had issues with reading NTFS in linux in ages.
[22:54] <histo> rodger_nc: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[22:54] <histo> !nvidia | rodger_nc
[22:54] <mzaza> Hello, I have a problem. After installing Ubuntu I can't access my BIOS setup, grub loads up automatically. I am on a machine with UEFI BIOS which I changed it's BIOS from UEFI to Legacy before installing Ubuntu. Any ideas how can I access BIOS again?
[22:54] <rodger_nc> histo: it is a fairly new AMD processor with NVIDIA video and had no problems with 12:10
[22:55] <rodger_nc> Thanks will do
[22:55] <betrayd> PoolShark_1: DOn't knock it if you haven't tried it. You won't go back
[22:56] <histo> mzaza: use the what ever key your manufacturer has decided enters the bios prior to the OS loading.
[22:56] <Jordan_U> mzaza: Try ##hardware, as there's not much you can do from Ubuntu's side of things.
[22:56] <mzaza> histo: Not working, it's F2 and it's not working.
[22:56] <Jdgsj> I'm trying to install an nvidia proprietary driver. I disabled the open source driver but the cli console is now a black screen. Does anyone know how to enable VGA if there's no video card?
[22:57] <mzaza> Jordan_U: It's just the problem happened after installing Ubuntu so I figured other solution could be done. I'll check #hardware.
[22:57] <PoolShark_1> don't knock what until I try it?
[22:57] <Dr_willis> Jdgsj,   you instaled using the .run driver from nvidia? or the drivers from the repos?
[22:57] <PoolShark_1> I use torrents all the time
[22:57] <histo> mzaza: You need to press it before grub loads. It has nothing to do with ubuntu whatsoever. You can unplug the hard disk and see.
[22:57] <PoolShark_1> what I'm saying is the limiting factor is the speed of my connection, not my download method
[22:57] <ranjeet> Does anyone know on how to get the multiple desktop in 13.04? 12.10 add it
[22:57] <Jdgsj> I am in the bios
[22:57] <PoolShark_1> you realize I'm saying 1.5 mbit, not gbit right?
[22:58] <Neytiri> is there a way to get the classic desktop enviromoent on 12.4
[22:58] <Jordan_U> mzaza: Actually, just unplugging the hard drive might work to kick you into the firmware screens if you're lucky.
[22:58] <Dr_willis> !nounity
[22:58] <trism> ranjeet: workspaces? System Settings/Appearance/Behavior/Enable workspaces
[22:58] <bernardo> Hello everybody! I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.04 and nvidia driver, and I haven't found an answer in forums. Can someone help me please?
[22:58] <Dr_willis> see above Neytiri
[22:58] <rodger_nc> histo: once it is installed how do I activate it rather then the generic driver?
[22:59] <Andre_designer> hi can't login after upgrade
[22:59] <Dr_willis> Andre_designer,  tell the channel what happens exactly when you try
[22:59] <Andre_designer> iv have alreadey reset my password
[22:59] <Andre_designer> pfffff
[22:59] <Andre_designer> try anything
[23:00] <mzaza> Jordan_U: If I deleted the boot partition could the same result be achieved?
[23:00] <Jdgsj> I'm trying to install the run driver but I had to disable the open source driver (I forget the name) otherwise the installation fails
[23:00] <ranjeet> trism: thx a lot, that worked
[23:00] <Dr_willis> Andre_designer,  so you get no grub menu? no desktop? no login screen? the pc explodes? the dog dies?
[23:00] <Andre_designer> iv have upgrade from 1204 to 13004
[23:00] <histo> rodger_nc: load the module and restart lightdm or just reboot your machine to use it.
[23:00] <wanksta> if i have ubuntu 12.04 can  i be able to upgrade to 13.04
[23:01] <Dr_willis> Andre_designer,  does logging in at the console works., does the guest user work...
[23:01] <heedly`> Hello
[23:01] <histo> mzaza: removing the files in the boot partition may kick you into the firmware as well. but you system will no longer be able to boot if it was installe din uefi mode
[23:01] <heedly`> I've changed my key bindings for switch workspace to Alt F1-F4, but it still doesn't work, any suggestions?
[23:01] <rodger_nc> histo: thanks will reboot - I saw something about system > admin > hardware, but I can't find the "hardware" in the menu system - the menu must be different for 13.04
[23:02] <histo> rodger_nc: I believe it's in system > Software Sources > hardware now
[23:02] <Jdgsj> I am at the end of my rope
[23:02] <mzaza> histo: I'll reinstall the system anyway, I just want to get to boot when I press F2 so I can reinstall
[23:02] <Andre_designer> but leave it for the moment i'm to tyred go to bed its here 1:00am
[23:03] <Jordan_U> mzaza: No, and in addition it would be a terrible idea because then you wouldn't be able to boot anything.
[23:03] <mzaza> Jordan_U: OK, thanks
[23:03] <histo> mzaza: If f2 is your boot key that is not the firmware/bios key. There is a seperate one to get in the firmware
[23:03] <Jordan_U> mzaza: You're welcome.
[23:04] <Neytiri> thanks, and is there a reason why downloading packates are taking forever, with a 200meg brodband connection?
[23:04] <Dr_willis> Neytiri,  servers are getting hammered because of the new release just comming out
[23:04] <histo> Neytiri: new distro was recently released. Which mirror are you using?
[23:05] <Neytiri> us.archive.ubuntu.com
[23:05] <Neytiri> tand i guessi picked a real bad time to reinstall my system
[23:06] <histo> Neytiri: You could try a different region and see but they all may be slow at the moment.
[23:06] <ranjeet> where can i get the kernel header 3.8.0_19 generic?
[23:06] <Dr_willis> try using just archive.ubuntu.com
[23:07] <Dr_willis> !headers
[23:07] <histo> !info linux-headers-3.8.0_19
[23:07] <histo> !info linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[23:07] <Neytiri> will do, 5 hours to install vim seems redicilous
[23:07] <Neytiri> but i can understand server load, how long do oyu think it will be before things settle down
[23:07] <Jordan_U> Jdgsj: Why were you trying to install via the .run file rather than through the package manager?
[23:08] <wanksta> if i have ubuntu 12.04 can  i be able to upgrade to 13.04
[23:08] <Dr_willis> Neytiri,  i had no issues upgradeing this morning. ;) you could set to use the australian serves.. they are all in bed right now
[23:08] <histo> wanksta: yes after upgrading to 12.10
[23:08] <histo> !upgrade | wanksta
[23:08] <minetape>  How would one go about installing GRUB and puppy linux to a flash drive /from/ ubuntu that already has ubuntu installed on it? I am asking for a pastebin'd list or a list in a .txt file of commands to enter into terminal /in order/ due to the fact that we recently lost home wifi >.<
[23:09] <histo> minetape: well download puppy linux iso and use unetbootin to install to usb or possibly startup disk creator in ubuntu
[23:09] <betrayd> minetape: not possible to do wired connection?
[23:09] <histo> minetape: or if puppy is a hybrid iso you can just dd if=/path/to/puppy.iso of=/dev/ofusb
[23:09] <minetape> histo: im looking to install GRUB as well so i can choose to boot from either ubuntu or puppy linux
[23:09] <Neytiri> what address do i use for those servers?
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> minetape, You can dual boot puppy and grub in ubuntu will see it, you could boot the puppy niso from grub if you want.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> ISO*
[23:10] <wanksta> histo, i don have that 12.10
[23:10] <Dr_willis> minetape,  do a full install of ubuntu to the flash. then customize the grub menus to boot your puppy setup
[23:10] <PoolShark_1> so mdstat is saying my raid is _still_ rebuilding
[23:10] <hmms> [15:36] *** now talking in #ubuntu
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[23:10] <hmms> [15:36] #ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com
[23:10] <FloodBot1> hmms: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <PoolShark_1> nobody knows why this is taking so long?
[23:10] <wanksta> and am in need to shift to 13.04
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> wanksta, YOU will have top fresh install it if you want it now.
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> to*
[23:11] <minetape> like i said, id kinda like a pastebin list on commands to plug into terminal to install grub, then use puppy's installer to install it to the flash drive, but im not sure how that would be possible due to my fear of ubuntu and puppy linux colliding
[23:11] <wanksta> histo, is it posssible to shift direct to 13.04
[23:12] <Dr_willis> minetape,  install ubuntu, configur grub to boot the puppy iso. keep the puppy save file on one of the ubuntu partitions.
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> wanksta, If there was a way would we be hiding it from you, lol.
[23:12] <Dr_willis> no need to do an install of puppy to the flash.
[23:12] <minetape> eergh
[23:12] <minetape> Okay
[23:12] <minetape> Here's what im looking for:
[23:12] <hmms> thanks all :)
[23:13] <minetape> Ive got ubuntu installed on the thumb drive already, please note this
[23:13] <Dr_willis> minetape,  a live install or a full install?
[23:13] <minetape> I want to also install puppy to the thumb
[23:13] <minetape> Dr_willis: live
[23:13] <minetape> And i want a menu to choose from puppy or 'buntu
[23:14] <OerHeks> pendrive
[23:14] <minetape> i want puppy to be live 's well
[23:14] <wanksta> wilee-nilee, okay but if found 12.10  image file is  it possible to run it as upgrade to 12.10
[23:14] <Dr_willis> minetape, easiest way would be to use the various tools at the PenDrivelinux site to make a Live-multi-os usb
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> minetape, That is easy puppy or ubuntu can use grub 2
[23:14] <histo> minetape: ahh use yumi or some other app from pendrivelinux.com to accomplish that. Or install grub and have it load iso's there are posts on the forum on how ot do it.
[23:15] <minetape> Dr_willis: im hoping to use Terminal to acomplish the task
[23:15] <wanderer> Hello
[23:15] <rodger_nc> histo: worked!  no more video issues
[23:15] <Jordan_U> wanderer: No. Why don't you want to upgrade normally via update-manager?
[23:15] <rodger_nc> histo: thanks
[23:15] <wanderer> Hi can anyone help me with resolution problems?
[23:15] <codygman> I'm on a debian squeeze system trying to fix an xubuntu botched update. I'm currently in a chroot and need to know how to give it internet to finish the update with: apt-get upgrade --fix-broken
[23:16] <Dr_willis> minetape,  you would have to customize the live usbs syslinux config files to boot the  puppy install OR the puppy iso file. and im not sure it can boot the iso file that way
[23:16] <Dr_willis> minetape,  puppy forums should detail an entry for syslinux to boot puppy
[23:16] <minetape> you mean
[23:16] <minetape> Dual boot?
[23:16] <Dr_willis> minetape,  you boot one or the other.. so thats a dual boot.. not sure what else you would mean.
[23:17] <histo> codygman: does the debian system have internet?
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> codygman, is it broken or just stopped
[23:17] <minetape> oookeerrr, ill refer to googel x)
[23:17] <codygman> histo: yes
[23:17] <histo> codygman: then the chroot should have internet
[23:17] <Jordan_U> codygman: mv /path/to/chroot/etc/resolv.conf{,-bak} && cp /etc/resolv.conf /path/to/chroot/etc/
[23:17] <codygman> wilee-nilee: the xubuntu won't bootup
[23:18] <codygman> Jordan_U: Alright. Hopefully debian squeeze/xubuntu resolv.conf will be compatible.
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> codygman, try apt-get -f install If debian is on the net xubuntu is.
[23:18] <histo> codygman: or just put nameserver 8.8.8.8 in your resolv.conf in the chroot
[23:18] <histo> codygman: for the time being to get dns working
[23:18] <codygman> histo: That worked! thanks :D
[23:19] <wanderer> Hi can anyone help with resolution settings?
[23:20] <histo> wanderer: What problem are you having with them?
[23:20] <histo> !details | wanderer
[23:20] <wanderer> btw im on linux lite is this the right place?
[23:20] <Dr_willis> wanderer,  never heard of it.. so i think its not.
[23:20] <histo> wanderer: what is linux lite?
[23:20] <wanderer> linuxlite os?
[23:20] <Dr_willis> wanderer,  check its homepage to see if it has its own support forums/chat
[23:20] <wanderer> thats how i got here :p
[23:20] <histo> !derivatives > wanderer
[23:21] <wanderer> ok ty
[23:21] <Dr_willis> wanderer,  we only support official ubuntu variants
[23:21] <wanderer> ahh
[23:21] <histo> wanderer: /j #linuxdistrocommunity
[23:21] <wanderer> but there isnt a channel for linux lite :P
[23:21] <histo> wanderer: sure there is I just told you the one from their home pages
[23:21] <Dr_willis> wanderer,  check its homepage. it might mention one
[23:22] <wanderer> oh my bad sorry
[23:22] <histo> wanderer: there is also a mumble chat on their page under the support section
[23:22] <wanderer> thank you for your kind help
[23:23] <wanderer> have a goodnight
[23:23] <wanksta> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee gudnyt
[23:23] <minetape> In theory, if i format a digital thuumb (thats what i call flash drives) and install GRUB2, then install Puppy Linux + Ubuntu on the same flash sdrive with startup disk creator, would i be able to dual boot from the flash drive?
[23:23] <minetape> *thumb
[23:24] <histo> minetape: startup disk creator doesn't work that way
[23:24] <minetape> eergh, then what would?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> minetape: No, Startup Disk Creator will overwrite grub's boot sector with Syslinux's.
[23:24] <histo> minetape: You have to do it manually or use yummi as I've told you.
[23:25] <comodo_dragon> how do i stop the insert bar in the WOrd document from blinking when not typing?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> comodo_dragon, Insert bar?
[23:28] <comodo_dragon> cursor
[23:28] <comodo_dragon> in word doc
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> comodo_dragon, Are you using word in wine?
[23:28] <comodo_dragon> no
[23:28] <comodo_dragon> libreoffice
[23:29] <histo> comodo_dragon: press the insert key?
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> comodo_dragon, Ah a word doc in libreoffice http://www.jurta.org/en/prog/noblink
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> 10 seconds to find on the web.
[23:30] <comodo_dragon> i tried that
[23:31] <Improved> hi all! first time ubuntu user here :)
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> comodo_dragon, Funny works here.
[23:32] <histo> Improved: helo
[23:32] <comodo_dragon> which works?
[23:32] <zqfmgb> hi
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> comodo_dragon, the link and a command stopped my cursor from blinking.
[23:33] <comodo_dragon> it dont
[23:33] <comodo_dragon> it blinks in libreoffice word
[23:33] <hdb2> hi all - I was wanting to play with mir, I read that there is an option to install it in 13.04.  however, I can't find said option anywhere.  is my info accurate?  if so, where do I need to look?
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> comodo_dragon, Stopped it in mine in libreoffice in precise in gnome 3 gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-blink false
[23:35] <comodo_dragon> i use xfce in lubuntu
[23:35] <zqfmgb> does anybody have any experience with the ms office clone?
[23:35] <brainwash> hdb2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir
[23:35] <hdb2> brainwash: thank you! appreciate it.  :)
[23:36] <histo> zqfmgb: what msoffice clone? libreoffice?
[23:37] <histo> !find mir | hdb2
[23:37] <zqfmgb> the one that's supposed to be on Ubuntu Kylin
[23:37] <histo> zqfmgb: what is Kylin?
[23:37] <zqfmgb> forgot the name...
[23:37] <brainwash> hdb2: basically you will have to add the Mir staging PPA and also do some reading to get the demos working
[23:38] <zqfmgb> the official Chinese distro
[23:38] <hdb2> the wiki page for Mir lead me to here:  http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/installing_prebuilt_on_pc.html
[23:38] <hdb2> doesn't look too bad...
[23:38] <histo> !cn | zqfmgb
[23:39] <zqfmgb> :| no no I just need the name of the office clone
[23:40] <zqfmgb> Internet is very slow, can't google
[23:40] <histo> zqfmgb: libreoffice
[23:41] <OerHeks> zqfmgb, in Kylin it is WPS ?
[23:42] <zqfmgb> YES
[23:42] <zqfmgb> thank you
[23:42] <zqfmgb> Oerheks
[23:43] <Kny_r> hello, i'm having trouble to install ubuntu 13.04 in one new laptop asus n56v with uefi
[23:44] <leolove> how to report a wifi bug using ubuntu-bugs?
[23:44] <Kny_r> i can choose the option try ubuntu before install
[23:44] <PoolShark_1> uefi can die in a fire
[23:44] <AtumT> PoolShark_1, Agreed
[23:44] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:45] <Kny_r> but after choose this option i cant boot
[23:45] <Kny_r> just black screen
[23:45] <Kny_r> i tried this url
[23:46] <histo> !bug > leolove
[23:46] <histo> !nomodeset | Kny_r
[23:47] <leolove> histo 3.8.0 kernel keep disconnecting my wifi
[23:47] <leolove> last thing it tells my dmesg is CRDA kinda of something
[23:47] <emes> why doesn't the hal package include /etc/init.d/haldaemon like the manual says it should?
[23:47] <leolove> and I am using WPA2 personal
[23:48] <Kny_r> i will try
[23:48] <Dr_willis> !find haldaemon
[23:49] <Dr_willis> emes hal has been depreceated/removed - i think the hal package sort of sets up a  fake hal enviroment.
[23:49] <Dr_willis> !hal
[23:50] <OerHeks> !find hald
[23:51] <emes> Dr_willis: I need hal for amazon video to work
[23:51] <AtumT> Is this channel is provided by Cannonical? or just a community work?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> emes,  yes. all i had to do for that was install the hal package., i did NOT have to mess with  etc/init.d/hal or anythng else fancy
[23:52] <Dr_willis> emes,  id id have to clear out the flash cache i recall. saw that mentioned on some site on getting amazon working
[23:52] <histo> !volunteer | AtumT
[23:53] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/145735/adobe-flash-player-not-working-with-amazon-prime
[23:53] <histo> AtumT: volunteers
[23:53] <AtumT> histo: Ok, thanks.
[23:53] <emes> Dr_willis: I was working before I upgraded to 13.04, I'll try clearing the cache
[23:54] <emes> Dr_willis: didn't work
[23:54] <Omen_20> Trying to install Chrome stable, USC tells me "Dependency is not satisfiable: libudev0 (>= 147)
[23:55] <Dr_willis> emes,  last i looked it was working for me on 13.04  i upgraded during the beta
[23:55] <Dr_willis> emes,  try with a newly made user perhaps.
[23:57] <Omen_20> nevermind
[23:58] <Apes> How do you append to your secure_path in /etc/sudoers?
[23:58] <Apes> Without just editing the existing line, that is?
[23:58] <Apes> Something like Defaults "${secure_path}:/foo/bar" doesn't seem to work
[23:59] <histo> Apes: are you using visudo to edit it?
[23:59] <jrib> Apes: why?
[23:59] <Apes> histo: Yes