[05:20] Say, I'm having trouble writing an upstart rule/job/scriot (whatever you call it)... if I try to start it, the 'start' command hangs forever, and nothing happens. There isn't even a logged failure in syslog, and the log with the upstart job's name doesn't exist. I've stripped it down to a minimal test case, and even this fails: http://pastebin.com/D8wEy8fW [05:40] sounds like a fork problem [05:42] hmm, I'll try adding 'expect fork', even though a simple '/usr/bin/env' (print environment variables) ought not to fork itself... [05:43] Last thing I see with initctl loglevel at debug: "asset-upnp goal changed from stop to start".... then nothing. [05:43] Okay, that didn't change anything. [05:44] hmm, is it possible for upstart itself to get stuck in a screwed-up state where it refuses to do things? I can stop and start lightdm just fine, but not my own service. [06:20] gah, for now, I'm giving up, and starting the darn thing in rc.local. === Md_ is now known as Md