[00:48] <JainAmber> Hello
[00:49] <JainAmber> I'm using Xubuntu 12.04.2. The bluetooth applet running in tray always shows bluetooth as "on". This is a laptop and so I'll like the laptop to boot with bluetooth turned off (to save battery).
[00:49] <JainAmber> Is there some way to make the system boot with bluetooth turned off?
[00:51] <ruien> JainAmber: i'm not particularly familiar with bluetooth on a laptop, but if I were in your position, I would probably (1) find a way to enable and disable bluetooth from the command line, (2) make that command run at boot, maybe in /etc/rc.local if i had to
[00:57] <JainAmber> ruien, yea, there's a similar way suggested at http://askubuntu.com/questions/67758/how-can-i-deactivate-bluetooth-on-system-startup Thanks! :)
[00:58] <ruien> good luck
[01:15] <Guest53752> Hi im meg
[01:15] <zodiak> oh dear.. no family guy jokes please
[01:16] <iHaku>  Looks like Xubuntu 13.04 might be my default *buntu once again.  Great release!
[01:21] <zodiak> yeah.. xubuntu 13.04 is good.. but I have gone back to roxterm instead of the new 0.6.1 terminal
[01:22] <zodiak> and yes, those little 'automagic' arrows that pop-up jst piss me right off (sorry!)
[01:29] <iHaku> Been downloading and trying the various new releases since release day.  So far Xubuntu has the best mix between form and function.
[01:34] <iHaku> Still haven't managed to get maximizing by double clicking on the title bar to work though.
[01:38] <zodiak> iHaku, settings manager -> Window manager -> Advanced ;)
[01:39] <iHaku> That selector in the settings hasn't worked for me in three releases.
[01:39] <zodiak> oh.. oh dear :)
[01:40] <zodiak> you could always vim ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml
[01:41] <zodiak> change the double_click_action to maximize
[01:41] <ruien> iHaku: i just tried it on 12.04 and it maximize/restores normally for me when I double-click on the titlebar of a window. I don't think i've even changed that setting.
[01:41] <zodiak> should work.. totally untested mind you
[01:44] <iHaku> ruien My bad, two releases of Xubuntu and one release of another xfce distro.
[01:45] <iHaku> zodiak, it seems to already be set to maximize.
[01:46] <iHaku> Just my bad luck, I suppose.
[01:47] <zodiak> hhrrmm.. that is .. strange.
[01:47] <zodiak> I take it you are (silly question) running xfwm ?
[01:49] <iHaku> Yeah.
[01:50] <iHaku> I'm not too worried about it.
[02:12] <shrimp> Hello
[02:12] <Unit193> Howdy.
[02:12] <[uzver]> Hi
[02:13] <shrimp> Is there any way to find a list of changes between the second latest and the latest version of Ubuntu? I have xubuntu 12.04 iirc and was wondering what the new update entails
[02:14] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/13-04-release/ there's that...  There's also one for 12.10 you can read as well.
[02:16] <shrimp> Thanks
[02:16] <shrimp> Should I update immediately or wait if there are any issues with the update
[02:16] <shrimp> ?
[02:17] <zodiak> is it a server or personal computer ?
[02:17] <shrimp> Personal Computer
[02:17] <Unit193> Only issue I had was it didn't pull in the raring kernels, but I was/am using different ones on that anyway.
[02:17] <zodiak> pffttt.. upgrade :D
[02:17] <Unit193> !backup
[02:18] <shrimp> Ok
[02:18] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[02:18] <shrimp> All of the data will still be there, yes?
[02:18] <carrera> does 13.04 desktop support RAID?
[02:19] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[02:20] <carrera> does 13.04 desktop support RAID?
[02:20] <shrimp> Aww
[02:22] <carrera> baizon, does 13.04 desktop support RAID?
[02:22] <zodiak> dear gods, carrera, calm down :)
[02:22] <carrera> Hi zodiak!  :)
[02:23] <carrera> why do u say that?
[02:23] <zodiak> in short, yes, it does. you can use lvm2 (for some raid like functionality) or mdadm
[02:23] <zodiak> cause you joined twice and asked 3 times in 20seconds
[02:23] <carrera> ok, here is the story
[02:25] <carrera> The Nouveau driver crashes with my nVidia M360 but I finally managed to use the nomodeset kernel option to boot live with 13.04
[02:26] <carrera> luckily it detected my wireless card. In fact, I'm on xubuntu 13.04 live right now
[02:27] <carrera> I tried installing from the Settings Manager but not only it didn't detect the RAID0 that I had created with ubuntu 12.04 server but it wouldn't let me create new RAID either
[02:27] <carrera> I even tried the LVM option to no avail
[02:29] <zodiak> if you installed 12.04 .. did you use the update-manager ?
[02:29] <carrera> sorry about the multiple joins. I connected to the Ubuntu Servers the first time, not my usual FreeNode
[02:29] <carrera> so I wasn't sure if I was in the right place or my messages were being posted
[02:30] <carrera> zodiak, update-mgr for what?
[02:30] <zodiak> to go from 12.04 upto 13.04
[02:31] <carrera> oh no, I downloaded the iso
[02:31] <zodiak> if you use the update-manager, it should sure as **** detect your raid setup ;)
[02:31] <carrera> in fact I downloaded lubuntu alternate too
[02:32] <carrera> actually, the update manager only started telling me about 13.04 yesterday
[02:32] <carrera> I'm not sure why it took it 3 days?
[02:33] <carrera> I clicked on upgrade once, but it complained that it was not possible to go from 12.04 to 13.04!  :(
[02:34] <carrera> furthermore, I presume it would be upgrading to ubuntu 13.04 not xubuntu, right?
[03:53] <ddsss> suspend doesn't work in 13.04 ?? why?
[03:53] <holstein> ddsss: well, it doesnt work for your machine... but it did work in 12.04? 12.10?.. as for the why, i would think kernel support
[03:54] <ddsss> holstein, and hibernation button grayed out..
[03:54] <holstein> ddsss: one at a time... did suspend work in 12.04? 12.10?
[03:54] <ddsss> holstein, not sure....
[03:55] <ddsss> holstein, worked in linux arch.
[03:55] <holstein> ddsss: you can use live CD's if you like.. that would be very telling.. from what i read, you could have a hardware issue
[03:55] <holstein> ddsss: so, it *did* work.. so the hardware is likely not faulty
[03:56] <holstein> ddsss: what would i do? try some live CD's and see what works... try 12.04 and go from there
[03:56] <ddsss> holstein, yeah. it worked in Linux arch for sure.
[03:59] <ddsss> holstein, i don't get it - and then what? what would be my next step even if I find a distro whre it was working?
[04:00] <holstein> ddsss: make a note of the kernel version, or whatever modules you see available, and emulate that setup in whatever distro you are wanting to use.. or just use what is working
[04:00] <holstein> ddsss: you could just have hardware that is not well supportable... what do you have?
[04:01] <ddsss> holstein, i just ran dmesg - and I get this: " Freezing of tasks failed after 20.01 seconds (2 tasks refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0):"
[04:01] <ddsss> and a call trace.
[04:02] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/v86d/+bug/1080530
[04:03] <holstein> ddsss: have you tried 12.04 live? 12.04 is the LTS, and might "just work"
[04:04] <holstein> other than that, you can share what hardware you have.. maybe a volunteer here has the same hardware and knows about how to support the features you are having issues with
[04:05] <ddsss> i dunno. stack trace mentions vfs and fuse. IMHO - cifs shares can't be unmounted or something? or sshfs share?
[04:05] <ddsss> i'll try to figure it out tomorrow.
[04:05] <ddsss> holstein, thanks. too tired now - gotta go to sleep.
[04:05] <ddsss> good nite.
[04:09]  * CybeRebel waves
[04:14] <kRush> is the raring wallpaper available in better quality somewhere? or is my display just shite? I can see the gradients as rings
[07:24] <shakira> i have acer travel mate c310 laptop which has Intel 915 Express chipset.I get message that it is not supported while booting. cqbln you tell me how to install its drivers?
[07:27] <TheSheep> What is the message exactly?
[07:40] <shakira> this chipset is not supported
[07:42] <TheSheep> that really says nothing
[07:43] <rusman> hi
[07:44] <rusman> i want change mimi type default application for at lease 50 file types
[07:44] <rusman> where can i find mimi-types config file in xubuntu ?
[07:45] <TheSheep> /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[07:45] <rusman> TheSheep no
[07:45] <rusman> bad answer
[07:45] <rusman> there is no mimi-types in this file
[07:45] <rusman> it is empty
[07:45] <TheSheep> mime-types
[07:46] <TheSheep> and they are there
[07:46] <TheSheep> the bidnigs of mime types to applications
[07:46] <TheSheep> bindings
[07:46] <ruien> yep, they're there for me.
[07:46] <rusman> yes
[07:46] <rusman> TheSheep im sorry
[07:46] <TheSheep> rusman: cheers
[07:47] <rusman> TheSheep you are right
[07:47] <rusman> thanks
[07:47] <TheSheep> rusman: best copy this file to ~/.local/share/applications and edit that copy
[07:47] <rusman> okey
[07:47] <TheSheep> rusman: this way it won't be overwritten on upgrade
[07:48] <rusman> TheSheep no
[07:48] <rusman> TheSheep this file very small
[07:49] <rusman> /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[07:49] <rusman> there is no new associations
[07:50] <rusman> when i run Settings > MIMI type editor - i see much more mimi types
[07:51] <TheSheep> rusman: you can add new lines to that file
[07:51] <rusman> but unfortunately, this editor have not group action for changing mimi types
[07:52] <rusman> TheSheep there are 1000 new lines
[07:53] <rusman> i just want open mimi types file in text editor and search and replace some entries
[07:53] <TheSheep> well, that's all I know
[07:53] <rusman> is there some others files like /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[07:53] <TheSheep> sprry
[07:53] <TheSheep> sorry
[07:54] <rusman> TheSheep ok thanks for you reply
[08:12] <xubuntu534> Is it possible to change the computername ?
[08:14] <TheSheep> the hostname? it's in /etc/hostname
[08:16] <xubuntu534> Is it not possible to do it in user settings ?
[08:17] <TheSheep> no, it's a global system setting
[08:17] <bazhang> !hostname > xubuntu534
[08:21] <xubuntu534> ubottu: Will the computername show up in public networks ?
[08:52] <xubuntu047> Why is xubuntu chnage my clock in BIOS ?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> xubuntu047, are you dual booting?
[08:53] <xubuntu047> No but i use english it is not my real language.
[08:53] <cfhowlett> xubuntu047, what is your language?
[08:54] <xubuntu047> Norwegian
[08:54] <cfhowlett> xubuntu047, ok.  join #ubuntu and I'll look for the norwegian channel
[08:55] <xubuntu047> Shud i use my own language to make the clock be correct ?
[08:55] <TheSheep> !no
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !cookie|TheSheep,
[08:56] <TheSheep> xubuntu047: no, by default ubuntu stores time in UTC, but you can change it and tell it to store it in your local time zone
[08:57] <xubuntu047> Thesheep: will it keep the bios time correct ?
[08:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu047: both are correct, just in different time zones
[08:58] <cfhowlett> xubuntu047, I don't see how it can hit the bios at all.
[08:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu047: you need to edit /etc/default/rcS and change UTC to no
[08:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu047: here's detailed instructions: http://www.shivaranjan.com/2009/06/20/how-to-prevent-ubuntu-linux-from-resetting-or-changing-computer%E2%80%99s-bios-or-hardware-clock/
[08:58] <xubuntu047> I have a notebook
[08:59] <xubuntu047> Another thing is i dont finde skype and vlc in the software center.
[09:00] <TheSheep> vlc should be there, not sure what is the status of skype, it used to be in the partner repositories
[09:00] <TheSheep> xubuntu047: make sure you enabled the 'universe' sources
[09:00] <TheSheep> !sources
[09:00] <ruien> you are better off downloading the latest skype client .deb file from skype's website anyway, i think.
[09:01] <xubuntu047> For me the sudo things is to complicated.
[09:08] <poisoned_dragon> Anyone awake?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> poisoned_dragon, zzzzzz
[09:09] <poisoned_dragon> lulz
[09:10] <poisoned_dragon> I have a question about the new xubuntu release.
[09:10] <poisoned_dragon> I noticed that the raring release doesn't have an alternate or minimal install.
[09:11] <TheSheep> ther is only one ubuntu minimal, and it's common for all falvors
[09:11] <TheSheep> there
[09:11] <TheSheep> flavors
[09:11] <poisoned_dragon> So, If I download ubunutu minimal 13.04, I can build xubuntu?
[09:11] <poisoned_dragon> oops *ubuntu
[09:11] <TheSheep> poisoned_dragon: sure, just install xubuntu-desktop on it
[09:12] <TheSheep> instead of ubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <poisoned_dragon> Ok... I can live with that.
[09:12] <poisoned_dragon> I had to do that once with 12.10 on my netbook. I'm sure I can push through it again.
[09:15] <TheSheep> good luck
[09:15] <poisoned_dragon> thanks.
[09:17] <poisoned_dragon> uh oh
[09:18] <poisoned_dragon> ubuntu doesn't have a minimal install for 13.04
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !mini|poisoned_dragon,
[09:19] <xubuntu047> TheSheep: If i only adjust the time will the BIOS time be correct or is it necesarry to change the UTC to no ?
[09:19] <poisoned_dragon> ugh, why they no put that in the main releases page. lol
[09:20] <poisoned_dragon> thanks, cfhowlett
[09:20] <TheSheep> xubuntu047: if you want your bios time to be your local time, then you have to change UTC to no
[09:20] <cfhowlett> poisoned_dragon, no worries, mate
[09:21] <poisoned_dragon> it's still neat that I can run the minimal install off of a 128mb sd card. :)
[09:29] <xubuntu047> TheCheap: I am not sure i understand meaning with this because it shud show my local time anyway on the desctop and the bios.
[09:31] <poisoned_dragon> You have to have an understanding of timezones.
[09:31] <poisoned_dragon> If your os is set to UTC, then your bios time will be set to the UTC time zone. The os will then show you the correct time based on your location.
[09:32] <poisoned_dragon> If you're dual booting, you should turn utc syncing off, so that the bios time can be set to your local time. This way, windows doesn't get mad.
[09:32] <poisoned_dragon> If you only use linux, there is really no need to turn utc off.
[09:33] <xubuntu047> What happens if i travel around ? I dont have dual boot. maybe i have to change the bios clock only once i hope.
[09:34] <poisoned_dragon> If you travel, just set your location in the clock in linux. It'll adjusty accordingly without changing the bios time. the bios time will still be set to utc.
[09:35] <poisoned_dragon> UTC is pretty much GMT. But, I digress.
[10:51] <Aiena> hi
[11:23] <Rainb> hello guys i want to ask if i have partition my disk with 4 logical partitions like root home var swap
[11:24] <Rainb> the rest of bin lib etc tmp users will be created automatically as directories from xubuntu install?
[11:24] <TheSheep> yes, in root
[11:24] <TheSheep> actually you can just have /home and /
[11:24] <TheSheep> and swap
[11:24] <Rainb> ok thank you so much! so no need to make for eatch one seperate partition...this would be good for a server for more security etc?
[11:25] <Rainb> well i want to make a as much possible good setting install
[11:25] <TheSheep> well, some people like to have /var separately because they keep some data in there
[11:25] <TheSheep> like the www pages or databases
[11:26] <Rainb> yes i had make it seperated
[11:26] <Rainb> it should not be so big?i mean 1 gb is ok for var?
[11:26] <TheSheep> I have no idea, honestly, it depends on what you plan to keep there
[11:26] <TheSheep> root has to have at least 6GB, I think
[11:26] <Rainb> oh well maybe make a apache server with my linux and dsl connection and upload a joomla site just to play
[11:27] <DarkEra> just a quick question, the LTS support, is that 3 years or has it been changed to 5 years too?
[11:27] <Rainb> i think 5 years now DarkEra
[11:27] <TheSheep> !lts
[11:28] <TheSheep> 5 years is for ubuntu server
[11:28] <Rainb> ;)
[11:28] <Rainb> swap what kind of filesystem would be?ext4?
[11:28] <DarkEra> so, xubuntu get's 3 years LTS support and Ubuntu Desktop plus server 5. Ok
[11:29] <knome> Rainb, none. swap doesn't have a filesystem
[11:29] <Rainb> hmm i had the impression when i tried to make a new partition type of swap inside my extended partition
[11:29] <Rainb> that had the option to choose filesystem too :P
[11:31] <TheSheep> you should choose the 'swap' filesystem
[11:32] <TheSheep> if there is a choice
[11:34] <Rainb> aha right! maybe it have the option swap filesystem
[11:35] <Rainb> ok thank you so much all for your delighted and usefull answers
[12:17] <kiyonich> uhm...
[12:17] <kiyonich> guys, could you tell me how do i adjust contrast my xubuntu?
[12:31] <aniruddha> hi i am getting message that wrong chipset version during boot xubuntu
[12:37] <aniruddha> i have intel m 915 chipset
[12:40] <kiyonich> maybe you must re-install it
[12:41] <GridCube> what seems to be the problem?
[12:44] <madam> Hmm the big rebuild time.... Did an update of 12.10 security patches and fixes... refuses to reboot. Hangs at the "starting timidity++ Alsa midi emulation" part.----Recovery menu: (file system state: read only) - I was going to get around the hang, but I am facing an encrypted system on a SSD, that apparently is too full, and then I deleted the GRUB, using a recovery disk - and now I have a 120G SSD, instead of the 60G SSD - I am not sure IF I can move everyt
[12:44] <madam> hing onto that...and recover the whole OS and encrypted sections as well as reinstall Windoze 07.... Might just start over. I was really shovelling shit up hill to keep 2 OS's on a 60G SSD, with not a lot more, than the OS's and a few gig of data.
[12:45] <madam> Kay Serah, Serah.
[12:45] <madam> Clean house, clean desk.
[12:45] <madam> Start Rebuild.
[12:46] <GridCube> encrypted volumes always buff me out :/ i never understand how they work
[12:49] <madam> Oh everything is easy..... The question then becomes, "Do I have the time, and am I willing to put in all the effort to learn, and learn by making mistakes, and fishing for answers across the net, learning stacks more about coding and all that... or do I have heaps of other priorities? I mean we can all  be geniuses, one everything under the sun, but can we study from morning until night, day in and day out, for 5000 years?
[12:53] <GridCube> lol, madam, you seem tired
[13:06] <madam> Yeah I am tired... 11pm... don't feel like pulling an all nighter... have panels and connectors I need to make and fit into the computer box as well - along with heaps of cleaning up... will start on tomorrow. See you all later.
[13:44] <tyrael_> hello, I'm totally noob. I wanna install Xubuntu 13.04 on my fathers PC. But when I do this I've got errors ---> E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device),E: IO Error saving source cache,E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.  Free disk space 80GB.
[13:51] <GridCube> tyrael_, what kind of computer is it?
[13:51] <GridCube> !md5 | also check the ISO consistency tyrael_,
[13:54] <Myrtti> tyrael_: how are you trying to install it?
[13:54] <Myrtti> (and why 13.04? 12.04 would probably be better as it's supported longer
[13:54] <Myrtti> )
[13:54] <tyrael_> Pentium 4, 512mb RAM
[13:54] <tyrael_> Myrtti just now I'm downloading 12.04 alternate
[13:55] <tyrael_> and I will try this
[14:04] <tyrael_> Myrtti: or maybe 12,04 normal version will be better than alternate ?
[14:05] <Myrtti> tyrael_: should be no difference
[14:19] <tyrael_> Myrtti: alternate version is only a console? how can I run normal desktop ?
[14:20] <GridCube> after the instalation the system ends the same
[14:21] <tyrael_> i do this on VMware but at the end, I can log in and thats all. Do not know how to run normaly desktop
[14:22] <GridCube> tyrael_, can you get to a tty?
[14:22] <tyrael_> I don't know what it is ;)
[14:23] <kgb> "No space left on device" :f
[14:23] <GridCube> its a black screen that asks you for your user and password
[14:23] <tyrael_> yes
[14:23] <GridCube> ok put your user and your password there
[14:23] <tyrael_> done
[14:24] <GridCube> does it says something like username@name-of-computer:~$
[14:25] <odauga> hi all
[14:25] <GridCube> !hi | odauga
[14:25] <odauga> thx guys
[14:26] <tyrael_> GridCube: yes it is
[14:26] <GridCube> tyrael_, ok then do this: sudo ap-get update && sudo apt-get install -y xubuntu-desktop
[14:27] <GridCube> apt-get in that first line
[14:29] <tyrael_> it's downloading
[14:30] <GridCube> :)
[14:33] <tyrael_> GridCube: after this, desktop will always run auto?
[14:33] <GridCube> tyrael_, it should
[14:33] <GridCube> yes
[14:33] <tyrael_> ok, so now i will instal 12.04.2 on father's PC.
[14:34] <GridCube> tyrael_, you can do something else too
[14:34] <tyrael_> he need only YouTube and VLC, that's all
[14:34] <GridCube> tyrael_, you can remove the hd and put in it in a better computer and install there, then move it back
[14:34] <GridCube> that should work
[14:34] <tyrael_> I've got notebook.
[14:35] <tyrael_> so I can't ;)
[14:35] <GridCube> P: ok
[14:40] <Lehti> uhh, this new 13.04 is really smooth. too bad one of my laptops has an old pentium m, which required some extra hassle with fake PAE -.-
[14:40] <Lehti> Does anybody know why the kernel doesn't have some sort of automatic compatibility mode for non-PAE CPUs?
[14:41] <GridCube> it was dropped on 12.10, last non-pae kernel its 12.04, mantaining two kernels was too much work for our very little developers, given that mainbuntu doesnt support them anymore either
[14:43] <kgb> imo not much point in running the newest software on old hardware 2
[14:43] <xubuntu165> I dont understand why the clock in BIOS allways is 2 hours behinde the desktop clock. And the command to change the UTC dont working.
[14:44] <kgb> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata not working?
[14:44] <Lehti> The 12.04 was OK, but there were some really weird glitches which this new 13.04 seem to have solved
[14:49] <kgb> Lehti: perhaps you may be able to downgrade the kernel, if you really want to
[14:50] <kgb> (and lock it against auto upgrade)
[14:50] <Lehti> Well, that was my first thought too, but I found the 'fake-pae' package some guy wrote as a working solution
[14:50] <Lehti> the newest kernel works just fine now
[14:50] <kgb> oic
[14:51] <Lehti> it's just weird in a sense that since this works by faking the PAE as an existing CPU property, why isn't such functionality included in the kernel in the first place :)
[14:52] <kgb> gah can't access http://www.midnight-commander.org/
[14:54] <GridCube> xubuntu165, tried changing the bios settings for the time? and maybe the battery for the bios its running out and might not remember changes
[14:55] <GridCube> Lehti, do a bug report and ask about that
[14:57] <phidias> Hi I was wondering if I could ask someone about some difficulties I've been having installing the Xubuntu lts.
[14:57] <knome> !ask | phidias
[14:58] <kgb> GridCube: if CMOS battery was gone, probably it wouldn't be 2hrs difference all the time
[14:58] <xubuntu165> GridCube: I have try to adjust the time in BIOS many times and it change as soon i start xubuntu. First the time on desktop is 2 hours in front of my time then it adjust the clock when it is online. And the BIOS time is 2 hours back again.  I have no dualbot only xubuntu.
[14:59] <kgb> gawd :)
[14:59] <kgb> xubuntu165: did you run sudo spkg-reconfigure tzdata from terminal?
[14:59] <kgb> *dpkg-reconfigure
[15:00] <kgb> set it and log out and then back in
[15:02] <GridCube> xubuntu165, check that your location its seted correctly
[15:02] <xubuntu165> GridCube: yes the battery can be gone but i think the clock is working i will check. thing in terminal i dont know.. I use my location on the map to adjust the time.
[15:03] <kgb> lol i give up xD
[15:03] <xubuntu165> gridcube: I resterartet in BIOS only and the time is ok then after i adjusted.
[15:04] <phidias> I've installed the OS three time, with three different usb boot installers,  and all three times it seem like xfce is not working properly. I have an Asus eee T91. It's an Intel Atom, 1.33ghz with 2gbs or ram and a 16 gb ssd hard drive. I previously installed Xubuntu 13, and it was successful. The problem I've been having is I'm getting a black screen after start  up. The next two times I installed the the OS, the DE loaded, but its 
[15:04] <xubuntu165> i think the battery is ok.
[15:04] <GridCube> xubuntu165, and your regional setting?
[15:04] <phidias> of the comand line on the bottom, and an overlaping image of the desktop ion the top half
[15:05] <phidias> Sorry I tried installed Xubuntu 12.04.2 three times
[15:05] <GridCube> mmm, but 13.04 works?
[15:05] <phidias> yeah
[15:05] <xubuntu165> GridCube: my regional settings shud be ok.
[15:06] <phidias> It was just  crashing too much
[15:06] <GridCube> xubuntu165, if they are wrong then its fetching another time slot
[15:06] <GridCube> phidias, have you checked your iso md5?
[15:06] <xubuntu165> When i first start xubuntu it is 2 hours in front of my time then it adjust automatic.
[15:07] <GridCube> oh
[15:07] <xubuntu165> if i set the bios to   15:00 the desktop will be 17:00 for example.
[15:08] <phidias> I'm sorry I don't think I know how to do that.
[15:08] <xubuntu165> maybe i shud not care about the bios time ?
[15:08] <GridCube> !md5 | phidias
[15:09] <kgb> nah it's probably the video driver
[15:11] <kgb> phidias: if you can ctrl+alt+f2 and get the terminal, you might get lucky with just running: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[15:11] <GridCube> xubuntu165, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:13] <phidias> Thank you gridcube. What is my option if my iso is bad? I am torrenting another copy from the xubuntu website, but that is where I got it before.  Ah, I suppose a bit of the torrent was corrupted, probably the part with the DE. I was unable to install it on a VM either.
[15:13] <GridCube> download it again
[15:14] <GridCube> do a force check when it ends
[15:14] <GridCube> xubuntu165, http://superuser.com/questions/518694/ubuntu-12-10-clock-is-wrong
[15:14] <xubuntu165> GridCube: Is that the same as do it in the time and dat settings ?
[15:14] <GridCube> P:
[15:15] <GridCube> probably, but more terminally
[15:15] <GridCube> xubuntu165, see that last link
[15:15] <GridCube> its better
[15:15] <GridCube> :D my hwclock and my date command are different too
[15:15] <GridCube> i never noticed
[15:15] <kgb> ya
[15:16] <GridCube> lun 29 abr 2013 09:13:19 ART  =/= lun abr 29 12:13:21 ART 2013
[15:16] <GridCube> P:
[15:16] <GridCube> but i am at UTC -3 :P
[15:17] <kgb> UTC -3 is... Atlantis? :D
[15:19] <GridCube> :P
[15:19] <GridCube> its buenos aires
[15:19] <kgb> :)
[15:21] <laufersteppenwol> hey guys, umm, i've got a problem:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/g15cfkuvm4gi2yi/IMG_20130429_171539.jpg   i can't even reinstall it, it says permission denied or something simmilar...
[15:22] <laufersteppenwol> can anyone help me please?
[15:22] <kgb> nice
[15:24] <xubuntu788> GridCube: i am here.. the bios time problem.. i reconnected.
[15:25] <GridCube> :)
[15:25] <GridCube> and?
[15:25] <xubuntu788> GridCube: I try the command you give me but when i restart it is the same.
[15:26] <kgb> xubuntu788: this one? http://askubuntu.com/questions/138423/how-do-i-change-my-timezone-to-utc-gmt
[15:26] <xubuntu788> Grridcube:actually it give me an errormessage.
[15:27] <xubuntu788> gridcube: maybe i shud not care baout the biostime so long the desktop clock is ok ?
[15:28] <zodiak> laufersteppenwol, honestly, I would take this chance to upgrade. kernel 3.5.x is not the most.. urm.. stable of kernels
[15:28] <kgb> if dpkg-reconfigure tzdata *doesn't work* or gives an error message.. probably means you have used other methods in the past to mess with the time
[15:29] <kgb> oh man, now i get what you're saying pftt
[15:29] <xubuntu788> GridCore: I am not sure about the BIOS battery but the bios remebr my change when i turn the computer on and off.
[15:29] <laufersteppenwol> zodiak, how do you think that i shall go on now? i'm not really used to linux OSs... i only use it for dev'ing android roms...
[15:30] <zodiak> laufersteppenwol, if you don't use linux for linux, then why not jst run xubuntu in a virtualbox image  under windows ?
[15:30] <zodiak> probably way easier I would think
[15:30] <laufersteppenwol> because it is too slow to compile a rom ;)
[15:31] <zodiak> O_o
[15:31] <GridCube> xubuntu788, if you type "date" in a terminal
[15:31] <zodiak> you know, I play windows games under virtualisation (using xen right enough)
[15:31] <GridCube> does it gives you the correct time?
[15:32] <zodiak> virtualisation doesn't always equate to slow
[15:32] <zodiak> but.. regardless, you should probably grab the 13.04 iso and boot off of that.. then do an upgrade/install if possible
[15:32] <laufersteppenwol> yes, it does, i run it on my "normal" lappy in a VM, and it's really way slower
[15:32] <xubuntu788> GridCube: Yes the same as on the desktop.
[15:33] <xubuntu788> GridCore: But the bios is allways UTC i think.. 2 hours behinde.
[15:35] <zodiak> laufersteppenwol, interesting.. I have done (on my laptop) iOS dev'ing and.. not a problem there. Not exactly a ~speed~ demon either but.. definitely workable. oh well. you know your system better than I do :)
[15:35] <GridCube> xubuntu788, then dont worry
[15:35] <GridCube> if date its correct then its fine
[15:36] <GridCube> !tab | also xubuntu788 :)
[15:36] <GermainZ> zodiak, I'm curious what games you can run under virtualisation? Pretty much anything that's more than 2D is unlikely to work AFAIK, unless your GPU supports umm... forgot what it's called. It basically allows your virtual machine to communicate directly with the GPU IIRC.
[15:37] <GermainZ> I personally use WINE for most of my heavy games, and it works just as good as native Windows, but I'm curious about your experience.
[15:37] <zodiak> GermainZ, pshaw.. I run LoL, GW2 and Rift :)
[15:37] <GermainZ> Rift in a VM?
[15:37] <laufersteppenwol> well, it's a "bit" old :D 5yo lappy, 2.2GHz single core (the one that runs xubuntu) and the one that runs the VM is a 3GHz dual core and they've got about the same performance... :D
[15:37] <zodiak> GermainZ, and you are talking about io-vtd .. and FLReset- :)
[15:38] <zodiak> GermainZ, yes sir/madam :)
[15:38] <GridCube> GermainZ, zodiak :) mind you continue this on #xubuntu-offtopic please?
[15:39] <xubuntu788> GridCube: what if i turn of the UTC is there any other options ?
[15:39] <zodiak> laufersteppenwol, try and grab the newest xubuntu iso .. if you don't have anything you specifically care to save on your / partition, jst do a clean install (upgrade if you are feeling brave ;)
[15:40] <GridCube> xubuntu788, why does that bother you so much?
[15:40] <zodiak> GridCube, vm'ing under xubuntu is offtopic ?! also, we have an offtopic channel ?!
[15:40] <zodiak> it's not like we are talking about the leafs in the NHL or who will win miss america ;)
[15:40] <GridCube> zodiak, comparing experiencies aint exaclty giving support, and yes we do
[15:41] <zodiak> alrighty
[15:41] <laufersteppenwol> well, that's exactly the problem... i was just pushing my rom to github when my lappy crashed, so i should keep the data... if it weren't for that, i'd already have reformatted everything...
[15:41] <GridCube> :)
[15:42] <zodiak> laufersteppenwol, right.. you can still boot off the iso/cd hopefully and mount the '/' partition
[15:42] <xubuntu788> Gridcube: i want all to be correct i think. but if the destop clock is working normal i will try to not care about it anymore.
[15:42] <GermainZ> laufersteppenwol, can't you mount and cp to an external storage, then format/upgrade?
[15:42] <laufersteppenwol> nope, already tried, it gives me "permission denied"
[15:43] <GridCube> xubuntu788, :) its correct, thats the way the linux clock works
[15:43] <GridCube> xubuntu788, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Clock-2.html
[15:44] <xubuntu788> GridCube: version 12.10 dont do this with my bios.. but thank you for your help.
[15:44] <GridCube> xubuntu788, just dont worry about it, if the "date" command its fine then everything its fine
[15:48] <xubuntu788> gridcube: it is ok.. i will read little on the links you sent me..
[15:59] <kRush> my raring install takes considerably longer to shut down than it takes to boot, is there a log of what it does at shutdown?
[16:01] <brainwash> kRush: there might be some log entries in /var/log/syslog before the filesystem gets unmounted on shutdown
[16:05] <kRush> nope
[16:20] <kgb> it should take but half a second, but mine hangs here, there 'n everywhere too
[16:33] <kRush> kgb, you know of a bug# for that? I'm not sure what I would file against/search for
[16:49] <laufersteppenwol> alright, i tried to install it, but it gives me an error "the installer needs to remove operating system files from the install target, but was unable to do so. The install cannot continue".... so i guess i need to re-format it again?
[16:51] <GridCube> laufersteppenwol, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[16:51] <xubuntu888> hola hola
[16:52] <GridCube> !es | xubuntu888 :) hola
[16:55] <laufersteppenwol> GridCube, i have to run it from the working life session, right?
[16:56] <GridCube> if you have a live session thats safer
[16:56] <GridCube> there its pretty simple guides in the cgsecurity wiki
[17:05] <llldino> Hey guys, so i've been having problems with suspend, and after reading the bug reporting page it says " please update your BIOS, and hardware firmware (CF card readers, SSDs, USB 3.0 controllers, DVD/CD drives, etc.) to the newest available from your vendor. Outdated and buggy BIOS and firmware is a common cause of a variety of hardware issues....suspend not working..."
[17:05] <llldino> Dores anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[17:06] <GridCube> it depends on your bios
[17:09] <llldino> GridCube: I have EFI
[17:10] <GridCube> lol then thats the problem no update needed
[17:10] <GridCube> !uefi | llldino
[17:10] <GridCube> well i dont know if you need to udpdate your efi, or if that even exists yet
[17:11] <llldino> Sorry, I'm a little confused, I use REFIt to boot from EFI but Ubuntu boots from grub on it's own partition
[17:13] <llldino> If EFI doesn't need to update, then what firmware is causing suspend to not work?
[17:13] <llldino> Is there an easy way to find out?
[17:17] <GridCube> llldino, at this level your questions can be answered to any ubuntu, i would recommend you to ask in #ubuntu
[17:17] <GridCube> taking in consideration that here no one seems to know
[17:18] <llldino> Ok, thanks
[17:19] <elfy> just don't mention xubuntu or they'll just sedn you here :)
[17:21] <llldino> Lol
[17:48] <xubuntu579> hello there
[17:48] <[0gb_us]> Hey, xubuntu579.
[17:48] <llldino_> Yo yo
[17:49] <xubuntu579> I was here in this channel yesterday.. .with user name i guess 535.... i was trying to upgrade my wubuntu from 12.10  to 13.04 through update manager and 4-5 people were sincerely helping me
[17:49] <bazhang> wubuntu?
[17:49] <llldino> xubuntu579, Yeah I remember
[17:49] <bazhang> as in wubi?
[17:50] <xubuntu579> thanks you for all of your help ,  today i burnt DVD and upgrading from there its going on while i ma chatting with you people here
[17:50] <[0gb_us]> Wubuntu? Is that a new one?
[17:50] <llldino> xubuntu579, I didn't want to be rude, but I honestly believe upgrading from a liveCD would be easiest to someone who generally isn't experienced with unix
[17:50] <xubuntu579> sorry that wasa typo i meant wubuntu => xubuntu
[17:50] <[0gb_us]> Ah, got it.
[17:50] <xubuntu579> yeah its easy ang going on fine :)
[17:51] <llldino> xubuntu579, Do you have an active internet rx
[17:52] <llldino> xubuntu579, If not, you might have issues with getting proprietary packages, I know I did
[17:52] <xubuntu579> yeah i  have an active internet connection.. while installation was going on ...i thought of droppping by here and saying thanks to all the folks who spent their valuable time for me yday
[17:53] <llldino> xubuntu579, No problem man, thanks for keeping me occupied while im unemployed
[17:55] <xubuntu579> @llldino :  yeah at the begining it asked two things  ... 1) while installing should we download the lastest packages 2) install 3r party stuff like mp3 plugins and all..... for both options i said no... becuase i wnat installation to finish fast....later i can upgrade.... but even after isaid no to those option its still downloading some stuff... though i have a skip[ button very next to it nad i can skip but i thought ok let 
[17:55] <xubuntu579> need stuff nad not the latest version of packages
[17:55] <llldino> xubuntu579, Um, I would have said yes
[17:55] <llldino> xubuntu579, What kind of computer are you installing onto?
[17:55] <xubuntu579> @llldino : :)
[17:56] <bazhang> no net connection is needed.
[17:56] <xubuntu579> its a P4 machien with hyper threading enabled ... intel mother board 915 chipset... and 1 GB DDR RAM :)
[17:56] <bazhang> simply installing xubuntu-restricted-extras when it is avialable will cover it
[17:57] <[0gb_us]> Yeah, I told it not to download stuff as well, but it's downloading right now, slowing the instalation.
[17:57] <GridCube> yes, it downloads, mostly langpacks
[17:58] <GridCube> even if you say "dont download" it does anyway
[17:58] <GridCube> never understood why
[17:58] <xubuntu579> i have been using xubuntu on this machine from  last one year approximately...  windows7 doesn;t run on my machine properly ...its slow and display drivers are also not there...so xubuntu is the life saviour
[17:58] <[0gb_us]> Probably for languages I'll never use, because it's a VirtualBox test installation.
[17:58] <llldino> xubuntu579, Not to mention helping to rectify Bug #1
[17:59] <[0gb_us]> Windows doesn't run properly on any machine, so ....
[17:59] <xubuntu579> one week back i had tried Linux mint on same machine after removing  xubuntu ...but i found Linux mint wasn't  good compare to Xubuntu ... in terms of performance ..usability...
[17:59] <xubuntu579> it need a long way to become Xubuntu...
[17:59] <GridCube> :D
[17:59] <[0gb_us]> Mint has a few issues, yes.
[17:59] <llldino> Mint uses gnome, right?
[18:00] <GridCube> i've heard they took away the virtual desktop switcher from the panel P:
[18:00] <GridCube> llldino, mate for default mint, xfce for mint xfce
[18:00] <[0gb_us]> It uses a GNOME fork, but not actual GNOME.
[18:00] <[0gb_us]> I'm trying out Ubuntu "flavors" today.
[18:00] <xubuntu579> not a few when i installed it as my primary OS, i  realized a lot of them... there sofware center sucks.... u dont have any history...
[18:01] <[0gb_us]> In Mint, I can't dim my monitor.
[18:01] <xubuntu579> boot time was equal in both about 30 seconds... Xubuntu vs mint... but later i felt performance was not good in mint hence switched back to xubuntu....
[18:02] <xubuntu579> okey guys thanks a lot
[18:13] <xubuntu579> since its official channel are there people who are from canonical ?
[18:14] <[0gb_us]> I don't think Xubuntu is run by Canonical, the Xubuntu staff just partner with Canonical.
[18:14] <xubuntu579> I want to tell you ... you guys are doing fantatic job... by  making it work on older machines...
[18:15] <knome> xubuntu579, [0gb_us]: no, the people working in xubuntu do not work for canonical (or at least they are not paid to work with xubuntu)
[18:16] <[0gb_us]> Just as I though.
[18:17] <[0gb_us]> *thought
[18:19] <[0gb_us]> So far, Xubuntu seems to be the most likely candidate to use as my main operating system. I still need to test Lubuntu and menu flexibility in Xubuntu, but but this seems to be my favourite of what I've tried so far.
[18:19] <[0gb_us]> The menu test will take a bit though. I need to install Wine (which is taking a while), and see if it properly adds its category to the menu.
[18:20] <[0gb_us]> Someone recommended Kubuntu, but KDE seems needlessly complex.
[18:27] <xubuntu471> its actually taking toooooo long in "Restoring previously installed  packages"  its been more than 15 minutes in same stage..... and i dont see hard disk LED glowing ...which indicates some file operation... now sure what it is doing :(
[18:28] <bazhang> let it continue
[18:29] <xubuntu471> why does it take so long :) , i am so restless...to see insllation comeplete...
[18:30] <bazhang> 1gb ram
[18:31] <xubuntu471> ohhh ok :)  ... but io had logged out and came back as different user name ,,, stiill you recognized me :) ..wow ...how ?
[18:31] <GermainZ> Your IP helps
[18:31] <bazhang> the gateway list the IP
[18:33] <xubuntu471> aah aaa got it ..nice... so you mean if i had more RAM this step would have been faster is it? .. i wish there was some progress indicator here... how much is remaining etc... what packages it is restoring right now... et etc... if you are from Xubuntu team please  take my request
[18:33] <xubuntu471> :)
[18:35] <xubuntu471> by the way if anyone here from Xubuntu.... do you have usage reports of machine hardwares... on which people in the world are installing xubuntu....i  really want to see how many P3 , P2 machine are runnig on xubuntu
[18:35] <bazhang> !hcl
[18:37] <xubuntu471> this has hte list of suported hard ware.. i want to see how many P3 P2 , P1 processor are still alive..because of Xubuntu... is there any lsit like that...
[18:38] <koegs> i dont think so
[18:38] <xubuntu471> its really taking tooooooooo long in  "Restoring previously installed  packages"
[18:39] <xubuntu471> i think my mother board is not listed here... but its supported... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMotherboardsIntelSocket775Intel
[18:40] <xubuntu471> can i send the my hardware details to some one and ask them to put it up on this page?
[18:41] <xubuntu471> i belive it should be automatically collected as anonoumous data.... so taht we know how many machines are powered by xubuntu?
[18:41] <xubuntu471> still  "Restoring previously installed  packages"   more than 25 minutes
[18:44] <xubuntu471> will my installation log will be sent to xubuntu team ?
[18:44] <elfy> no
[18:45] <elfy> though if you report a bug during installation I think something does then
[18:45] <xubuntu471> is my installation hung ? i dont see any activity.... hard disk led is not glowing ...
[18:45] <elfy> can take a while
[18:45] <xubuntu471> how do i run UI task manager during the installation to see if its really doing something or hung ?
[18:46] <elfy> from the menu - system - task manager
[18:47] <xubuntu471> there is no menu.... I dint live run and started installation...
[18:48] <xubuntu471> i directly started upgrade..
[18:48] <elfy> oh - no then
[18:48] <elfy> you might manage to ctrl+alt+f1 and run top
[18:48] <xubuntu471> how do i get shell >?
[18:49] <kgb> ^^ or f2 and f7 to get back
[18:54] <xubuntu471> before i could ready how to come out of shell ... i had gone into shell.... had tough time figuring out how to come out to UI :)
[18:54] <xubuntu471> tried all function keys n came out
[18:54] <xubuntu471> installed  lxtask in shell mode when i tried launching it ...it said u u can launch gui softwares in shell mode.
[18:55] <xubuntu471> how do i run task manager now n see if my installation is not hung?
[18:56] <xubuntu471> it nearly 35-45 minutes i belive in this state :(
[18:57] <kgb> prolly borked
[18:57] <Unit193> In the installer, there should be a details button, or down arrow.
[18:58] <xubuntu471> that shows nothing... there is some display problem ...while it was in previous stages it use to show some logs in black color background now there is some UI painting issue there
[18:58] <kgb> and if you're in shell, just run top like elfy said
[19:02] <xubuntu471> i see uqiquity running and apt-clone.... i gues a-t-clone is what it means restoring previously installed apps... but still my CPU usage is not much its 99% idle...
[19:05] <xubuntu471> 923 MB RAM is used and 77 MB RAM is free ....35 MB swap is used and about 100 MB swap is free...
[19:06] <xubuntu471> out of 141 task ....1 is running and rest are slepping ...
[19:10] <xubuntu471> guys.... any idea how liong will have to wait for packages to get restored... i ma frustrated now... its been like 50 minutes in restoring packages ....  cpu is almost idle ... avg load is like 1% on cpu ...i beilve  there is somethign wrong ...
[19:10] <knome> !patience | xubuntu471
[19:11] <kgb> i suppose you could try sudo kill and the PID, or sudo shutdown -r now and pray that there haven't been permanent changes made yet? :$
[19:11] <bazhang> not a good idea...
[19:11] <kgb> probably the worst
[19:12] <bazhang> xubuntu471, anything like "fatal error: ubiquity"
[19:12] <[0gb_us]> All Xubuntu's desktop wallpapers are blue ...
[19:13] <[0gb_us]> I always choose a dark blue wallpaper anyway, so it doesn't bother me or anything, but it is odd.
[19:13] <bazhang> [0gb_us], needs suggestion for wp?
[19:13] <xubuntu471> no ... but ... in this installation  wizard... when i try to see the details ... there is some painting issue its not showing anything ...
[19:14] <[0gb_us]> Sorry, I don''t have any suggestions, it's just odd to see the lack of variety.
[19:14] <knome> [0gb_us], xubuntu's color scheme is blue.
[19:15] <knome> [0gb_us], we're planning some variation for future releases though
[19:15] <knome> [0gb_us], not necessarily default wallpapers... but you'll see.
[19:15] <xubuntu471> @knome : i like the mint's green theme of thunar ... is it possible to get the same in xubnutu?
[19:15] <[0gb_us]> Okay, cool. Even with more options, I'd go with blue, I was just surprised.
[19:16] <xubuntu471> @bazhang : how come you are shown in red color ?
[19:16] <bazhang> xubuntu471, because your irc higlights it when I use your nick
[19:16] <[0gb_us]> I think there may be duplicate wallpapers in here too.
[19:16] <bazhang> xubuntu   471 and this does not
[19:16] <Myrtti> so you can see when people mention you better
[19:16] <knome> xubuntu471, if you download the mint gtk theme, yes
[19:17] <xubuntu471> but that wont change my entire xfce session UI right ?
[19:17] <knome> xubuntu471, it will.
[19:18] <xubuntu471> oh no...i dont want that then.... i just wnated it in thunar...
[19:18] <xubuntu471> @bazhang... its been like 1 hour i guess in this step .... restoring packages step .... suggest something ... is it expected ?
[19:19] <knome> xubuntu471, can you please use a little less punctuation to make your messages more readable? thanks
[19:19] <xubuntu471> :) sure.
[19:19] <Unit193> If you do restart the install, remove the xubuntu ubiquity slideshow first.
[19:20] <xubuntu471> n how do you do that?
[19:20] <[0gb_us]> What's the difference between a Xubuntu session and an XFCE session? They look the same to me.
[19:21] <TheSheep> [0gb_us]: the difference is only at the first login
[19:21] <xubuntu471> when it all ran fine today i was so happy that today at least it will be upgraded , but my bad luck.
[19:21] <[0gb_us]> Okay, thanks TheSheep.
[19:22] <Unit193> If you try Xfce, have to remove ~/.config/ to try Xubuntu.
[19:22] <xubuntu471> bazhang?
[19:22] <bazhang> xubuntu471, hi
[19:24] <bazhang> xubuntu471, keep it here please and not via PM
[19:24] <xubuntu471> okie Bzhang, can you tell me what options i have ?
[19:24] <bazhang> that way others can help and watch for errors in support / and offer other better advice
[19:26] <xubuntu471> so what do i do now?
[19:27] <xubuntu471> can you please tell me ...how do i install a vn server ... ...i hava a back ache sitting in front of this pc.... want to move to bed and remote long from a laptop
[19:28] <xubuntu471> i earlier had vnc server installed on 12.10 which i am upgrading right now to 13.04
[19:34] <Unit193> xubuntu471: You can install x11vnc if something else isn't being installed right now.
[19:37] <xubuntu471> its isntalling .thanks Unit.
[19:42] <xubuntu471> vnc installation failed as debconf gave some error that it was locked by other process sad situation for me ... for more than an hour I am in same stage "restoring packages"
[19:43] <xubuntu471> i downloaded 13.04 iso in ofifce and burn it so that it would take less time in upgrading fromi DVD in compariusion to upgrading through software update manager because my internet connection  is slow.
[19:44] <TheSheep> you can only run one package manager at a time
[19:44] <xubuntu471> but see my bad luck, i am stuck in a stage ...i am stuck where slow internet connection is not the culprit
[19:44] <kgb> uh.. is it downloading (old) packages from the web?.. then it's your connection speed
[19:45] <kgb> hm
[19:46] <xubuntu471> i cudn't install vnc server also .. n have back sitting in front of pc... so now i will just leave it as it is open... n hope that i would complete when i wake in the morning after 8 hours... i just hope that power wont go off in the middle as i dont have a UPS.
[19:46] <xubuntu471> :( :( :(
[19:46] <xubuntu471> thanks you guys  who tried to help me.
[19:46] <kgb> gl :)
[19:49] <xubuntu471> do you guys also suspect that there could be some memory leak in this restoring packages step ?
[19:50] <elfy> I don't - I suspect the possibility that you had a bunch of ppa's/proprietary drivers installed prior to upgraade - I always try to get back to as default as I can if I'm upgrading
[19:51] <Unit193> The upgrade normally will disable PPAs.
[19:52] <xubuntu471> i dint install any drivers myself... all i had were defaults ..sofwares installed from software cetners... mostly for kids education .. like pre-primary bundle... primary bundle of edubuntu and then childplay , gcompri etc.
[19:54] <elfy> Unit193: oh I didn't know that - thanks
[19:54] <bazhang> not so great when there are no raring PPA versions
[19:55] <xubuntu471> I will just take photo of ubiliquity slideshow window with some painting errors and take a 20 seconds video of output of top and report it... may be that would help folks identify the problem if any ... where should i post it to?
[19:55] <bazhang> !paste
[19:55] <bazhang> http://imagebin.org/?page=add    xubuntu471
[19:56] <xubuntu471> no i  mean i want to post post it on ubuntu/xubuntu forum where bugs are reported. some bug  tracking system?
[19:57] <bazhang> !bugs | xubuntu471
[20:10] <xubuntu471> i hope i wontend up like these people https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/758013
[20:10] <xubuntu471> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/727881
[20:11] <xubuntu471> is @ubottu a robot?
[20:11] <elfy> yes
[20:11] <elfy> bot anyway
[20:12] <bazhang> ubottu, is a bot
[20:12] <bazhang> :)
[20:14] <xubuntu471> ubottu, is a bot?
[20:14] <xubuntu471> @ubottu : yo uare kidding me :)
[20:15] <xubuntu471> ubottu
[20:15] <xubuntu471> ubottu, is a bot?
[20:20] <xubuntu471> good night guys...
[20:20] <xubuntu471> good night ubottu ;)
[20:33] <carrera> Greetings Everyone!  :)
[20:36] <carrera> I still haven't been able to install 13.04 on my Qosmio X500!  :(
[20:37] <carrera> Here is a summary of  what I've done so far
[20:38] <carrera> 1. created a bootable USB stick with UNetbootin
[20:39] <carrera> 2. Hit tab at the UNetbootin boot menu to enter the nomodeset kernel option. That let me do without the Nouveau driver that keep crashing with my nVidia M360
[20:40] <carrera> 3. Unfortunately, 13.04 desktop was NOT able to detect my RAID 0 partitions. It was NOT able to create new RAID partitions either
[20:41] <carrera> 4. I created a bootable USB with the mini.iso
[20:42] <carrera> 5. That booted fine but, unfortunately, it did NOT detect my wireless NIC!
[20:42] <carrera> Unfortunately, I do NOT have access to Ethernet!  :(
[20:43] <carrera> any suggestions as to what I can do next?
[20:43] <bazhang> carrera, thats really hard to read
[20:43] <bazhang> use a comma, and not enter key
[21:42] <Arpad22> glxinfo gives glx missing on 0.0
[21:43] <Arpad22> no 3d video, pls help!
[21:53] <xubuntu887> e,
[21:54] <xubuntu887> e' possibile installare xubuntu su un computer con 196 mbyte di ram? grazie per la risposta. gio
[21:56] <Unit193> !it | xubuntu887
[23:17] <Cida> Can someone help me? I was trying to fix an issue I had with Blender... And now the display for everything is screwed up.
[23:17] <Cida> It's displaying everything in one little spot, while the rest of the screen is just blank
[23:19] <Cida> Something with GLX was my original problem, but now nothing is being displayed across the entire screen
[23:19] <knome> Cida, is this happening with blender only?
[23:22] <Cida> Idk what I did to do this... But I was trying to fix a missing GLX extension or what ever. If it was just an issue with Blender, the reinstalling of Blender I did earlier would have fixed it