[00:03] <darkxst> jbicha, its working here
[00:04] <darkxst> not sure if I am running the same version of g-c-c though
[11:41] <darkxst> jbicha, can you test the new g-c-c on my ppa?
[11:41] <darkxst> should be pretty good now
[11:42] <darkxst> particularly interested if you still get a crash in activity-log, since I haven't been able to reproduce that
[13:18] <arpu> darkxst,  hello again i see today i get gedit 3.8.0 and gedit-plugins 3.8.1
[13:54] <phako> hey, you might want to recompile rygel against tracker 0.16 to avoid https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rygel/+bug/1158535
[14:42] <camelinahat> Will any other 3.8 packages be promoted from Staging to the main gnome3 ppa? Or everything left has the known regressions? (in particular I'm curious about gnome-terminal but others as well)
[14:51] <jbicha_> camelinahat: we haven't figured out how to get new tabs to open with the same current working directory with gnome-terminal 3.8 yet
[14:52] <mgedmin> that would be a nasty regression
[15:15] <gdtr54trgfd> Hi, I'm having a little problem. I've got a 1gb usb key and I'm using unetbootin to load ubuntu-gnome in it. But seems like there's no sufficient space for it.
[15:21] <tommie-lie> jbicha_: does the solution provided in the changelog for gnome-terminal 3.7.0 not work?
[15:26] <atrus> tommie-lie: where? 3.7.0 doesn't seem to be mentioned in /usr/share/doc/gnome-terminal/changelog.gz
[15:26] <tommie-lie> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/tree/NEWS
[15:27] <tommie-lie> you're right, it's not the usual Changelog file, that only seems to contain formatted commit messages when compiled
[15:28] <atrus> i don't see this "__vte_ps1" script anywhere...
[15:29] <atrus> oh, i see.
[15:29] <tommie-lie> it's a shell function
[15:29] <tommie-lie> and is included in libvte
[15:29] <atrus> i don't seem to have that function defined though, which is odd.
[15:30] <atrus> does something automatically invoke things in /etc/profile.d/ ?
[15:30] <tommie-lie> don't POSIX shells do?
[15:31] <atrus> maybe this was only introduced to the package recently, and i need to logout/login again?
[15:31] <atrus> if i start a new login shell, i do get it.
[15:31] <tommie-lie> ah, all Bourne shells, actually
[15:32] <tommie-lie> they execute /etc/profile and this calls all scripts from profile.d
[15:34] <atrus> logging out and logging in didn't help, I still don't have that function defined in new gnome-terminals.
[15:34] <ricotz> darkxst, seems to works :)
[15:35] <tommie-lie> atrus: I'm just checking in which version vte.sh was introduced
[15:36] <atrus> vte.sh is here, and it's in /etc/profile.d
[15:36] <atrus> if i ssh to localhost, OR just source that file, I get the __vte_ps1 function defined.
[15:36] <tommie-lie> then just starting a new bash should provide __vte_ps1
[15:36] <atrus> but it's not defined in terminals launched from gnome-shell (launched by gnome-session launched by gdm...)
[15:36] <tommie-lie> that's odd
[15:38] <atrus> does the function need to be exported?
[15:38] <atrus> can functions even be inherited by non-shell child processes?
[15:39] <atrus> if i start a bash *login* shell (ie, bash -l), it does source those files.
[15:39] <tommie-lie> uhm, ok, I can reproduce your behavior, even logging in on a TTY gives me the function, gnome-terminals don't
[15:39] <tommie-lie> yep
[15:39] <atrus> yeah, gnome-terminal shells aren't login shells.
[15:39] <atrus> ie, putting this in profile.d is probably the wrong solution.
[15:40] <atrus> does this work outside of ubuntu?
[15:41] <lukepl> hi
[15:42] <lukepl> i would like to upgrade my ubuntu 13.xx to ubuntu-gnome
[15:42] <tommie-lie> atrus: dunno, this might actually be a "bug" in the NEWS file, you probably have to source vte.sh first in .bashrc
[15:42] <lukepl> but cant find desc how to do it on the ubuntu gnome webpage
[15:43] <lukepl> am i blind ... or it is not how it suppose to go
[15:43] <lukepl> like i shoul reinstall entire OS
[15:43] <atrus> following up on bugzilla 675987
[15:43] <tommie-lie> atrus: otoh, the package bash-completion installs /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh, which then would also only work on login shells
[15:44] <atrus> tommie-lie: that just sets environment variables, which can be inherited by child processes
[15:45] <atrus> functions cannot be exported to child processes AFAIK, only sub-shells.
[15:45] <tommie-lie> atrus: actually it sources /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion which defines some functions, I also have it enabled in my .bashrc, so I don't know if I have them because I am supposed to have them
[15:46] <atrus> tommie-lie: ah, yes. it looks like my .bashrc has that as well, as a standard bit
[15:46] <tommie-lie> yep
[15:46] <tommie-lie> _userland is from the completion stuff, for instance
[15:47] <atrus> so, the workaround is simple enough, source /etc/profile.d/vte.sh from .bashrc. but the documentation for the workaround is entirely wrong :)
[15:47] <tommie-lie> yep
[15:49] <tommie-lie> you could still add it to /etc/bash.bashrc which is read for non-interactive non-login shells
[15:49] <atrus> with that, and the other .bashrc trick (actually setting PS1), the workaround does appear to work for me (with ubuntu 13.04 + gnome3 ppa + gnome3-staging ppa)
[15:50] <tommie-lie> I don't think this should be considered a workaround, it's the way it#s intended to work (minus explicitly sourcing vte.sh)
[15:51] <tommie-lie> actually I think it's a much cleaner solution than having vte/gnome-terminal setting the environment accordingly
[15:51] <tommie-lie> plus the user can decide wether to have his own shell use it or not
[15:56] <tommie-lie> atrus: I wonder why nobody noticed this and has reported it somewhere
[15:57] <tommie-lie> at least I can't find anything about it
[15:58] <tommie-lie> atrus: after having said that, I found: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1115370.html
[16:13] <mgedmin> this is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675987, right?
[16:13] <atrus> gonggggg showwwww
[16:14] <mgedmin> or, rather, a side effect of that bug being resolved
[16:14] <atrus> yeah.
[16:17] <mgedmin> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697475 is a more useful bug to follow
[16:50] <Madonna> hi all
[16:54] <Madonna> anyone is here?
[16:57] <phako> yes
[16:59] <atrus> !anybody
[17:00] <Madonna> Could you tell me how to install Ubuntu Gnome in Ubuntu Unity?
[17:11] <mgedmin> Madonna, install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package
[17:12] <mgedmin> with Software Center (or apt-get install, if you prefer the command line)
[17:12] <camelinahat> In addition to above, check out the recent article by OMG Ubuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[17:15] <Madonna> ok, thanks
[17:15] <Madonna> but Ubuntu 13.04's repos are not working well in my country
[17:15] <atrus> that omgubuntu link is only relevant if you're interested in playing with something not actually in real "ubuntu gnome" releases yet
[17:16] <Madonna> many packages can't be downloaded
[17:17] <Madonna> Maybe it is due to the fact that my country is in war with China? =))
[17:20] <camelinahat> atrus, is ubuntu-gnome-desktop not _the_ Ubuntu GNOME meta package?
[17:20] <atrus> camelinahat: it is
[17:21] <camelinahat> Oh sorry I misread.
[17:21] <camelinahat> Yes my bad it does also contain the steps for adding the gnome3 ppa in addition to the desktop
[17:23] <camelinahat> That said, I think most Ubuntu GNOME users have the main gnome3 ppa added, though not necessairly the staging (I know I'm not using staging myself, primarily because it's my work laptop and just-in-case ;)
[17:48] <FrozenFire> Yeah, I use the PPA, but not staging
[19:30] <JackSprat> I restarted GNOME using sudo /etc/init.d gem restart. Now when I restart I get a blank desktop with no icons or menus nor a login. I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[19:35] <atrus> JackSprat: that's a better question for #ubuntu. this channel is for the gnome-variant distribution, which only exists in 12.10 or so and later.
[19:36] <JackSprat> gotcha, thanks!
[21:08] <darkxst> jbicha_, so the network manager pc file is wrong
[22:40] <atrus> hrm. i tried unity for a few minutes, then switched to gnome-shell, now focus-follows-mouse is disabled, and i can't see a place to enable it in gnome-tweak-tool. any idea what might have happened?
[22:48] <atrus> huh. unity definitely altered my gsettings >:|