[00:00] <Apes> jrib: Because I would like something added to root's PATH
[00:00] <jrib> Apes: yes, obviously.  I'm asking you to be more specific
[00:00] <Apes> I'm not sure what you mean
[00:01] <Apes> That's already pretty specific, I thought
[00:01] <jrib> Apes: what do you want to add to root's PATH?
[00:01] <Apes> A directory containing binaries that I trust
[00:01] <munzmania87> hi! i have just installed ubuntu 13.04 :-D and i want to install the ati driver !  i am using an old laptop and the cpu fan makes alot of noise so hopefully installing the driver would help .... can you help me plz ?
[00:01] <jrib> Apes: ok, good luck with your issue
[00:02] <jrib> !ati | munzmania87
[00:03] <munzmania87> @ubottu : thnx :)
[00:05] <PoolShark_1> so is anyone here good with raid using mdadm?
[00:06] <histo> !anyone | PoolShark_1
[00:07] <munzmania87> @ubottu  : where can i find the "hardware drivers manager" ?!
[00:07] <PoolShark_1> becuase I've already asked it twice and not gotten any response at all, perhaps? :p
[00:07] <histo> munzmania87: system settings > software sources > hardware tab
[00:07] <histo> !raid | PoolShark_1
[00:07] <munzmania87> @histo : thnx
[00:07] <PoolShark_1> so rather than type the whole thing out again, I'll first establish a connection and then ask... TCP rather than UDP, so to speak
[00:08] <zivester> Does anyone know what device I should use for bootloader installation on a macbook pro?
[00:08] <histo> !mac | zivester
[00:08] <PoolShark_1> but if you must know, I'm just trying to figure out why this thing is taking hours and hours and hours to sync up my new array
[00:09] <testroot> how can i know what gpu i am using right now?
[00:09] <histo> testroot: lspci -k
[00:09] <zivester> histo, do you have experience with the install? its not exactly updated for my 10,1 macbook
[00:10] <zivester> Jordan_U, happen to be around?
[00:10] <munzmania87> @histo : i could not find software sources under "system settings" ,,,,,,, i am using 13.04!
[00:10] <testroot> histo: the thing is i have a hybrid gpu
[00:10] <histo> zivester: If it's uefi I though mac people were using refid or something like that to overcome the 32bit efi stuff. But other than that I have no mac hardware
[00:11] <histo> munzmania87: No idea where they've moved it now.  Check in the software center in the menus you should be able to get to software sources. In 12.10 they moved it to a tab there.
[00:12] <histo> testroot: well if you didn't use bumblebee or optimus to run an application then it should be using the low end card
[00:12] <testroot> histo: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:12] <testroot> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0fd3 (rev a1)
[00:12] <testroot> histo: the output of lspci -k | grep VGA
[00:13] <zivester> yah.. I have refind installed... but when doing a manual install its asking me where to install the "bootloader" which is eery
[00:13] <histo> !nvidia | testroot
[00:14] <testroot> histo: the thing is the battery is way to low compared to windows so i was guessing that iam using the nvidia
[00:14] <histo> testroot: also you may have to search for hybrid graphics cards or help on askubuntu.com
[00:14] <betrayd> seems to be a normal question zivester
[00:14] <testroot> histo: is there any way to know if iam using the intel?
[00:15] <testroot> histo: i dont care much now for nvidia
[00:16] <leolove> Can I just disable CRDA on my ubuntu 13.04 and use wifi reliably? :(
[00:17] <hp1004lts> Hi all
[00:18] <betrayd> hey tehre
[00:18] <hp1004lts> hi all
[00:20] <Ponch0> I installed edbuntu 13.04 because edumacamation and I also installed e17 desktop but it isn't working, I think i'm using gnome 2 desktop, none of the bells and whistles come installed here I think because no effects
[00:20] <Ponch0> how do I make the pretty stuff work
[00:20] <hp1004lts> Dose anyone use the ubuntu 12.04 LTS yet.?
[00:21] <dustinspringman> hp1004lts: been using it for months
[00:21] <Fishscene> hp1004lts: What do you mean "yet"? As in upgraded from an older LTS release?
[00:21] <Dr_willis> !info wireless-regdb
[00:21] <Dr_willis> leolove,  quick google search suggests that package is what handles crda
[00:22] <Dr_willis> http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-536502-debian-status-crda-wireless-regdb-help-168706381.html
[00:22] <leolove> Dr_willis is it safe to remove it?
[00:23] <hp1004lts> yes  upgraded from 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts.
[00:23] <Dr_willis> leolove,  no idea.
[00:23] <hp1004lts> one mouth great
[00:23] <leolove> :(
[00:23] <leolove> My wifi keeps disconnecting. the last message it says in dmesg is about CRDA updating before going offline
[00:23] <Dr_willis> leolove,  all i know on the topic is in that URL i gave... all i did was google for  crda remove   and saw that url
[09:38] <sqrt7744> Hi, I'm running 13.04, and want to connect to a samba server. I see "connect to server" and can put in the address (and it connects), but I need to connect with my creds instead of as guest. How can I put in my username/password?
[09:39] <opalepatrick> quickest way to convert avi to mp4?
[09:39] <somsip> opalepatrick: ffmpeg
[09:39] <mar_> i'm trying to add my scripts directory to the path according to http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm. $PATH gives me this "bash: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games: No such file or directory"
[09:40] <opalepatrick> deprecated in 13.04 somsip should I still use it?
[09:40] <opalepatrick> any reason not to, I mean
[09:40] <mar_> .bash_profile looks like this "PATH=$PATH:/home/mar/Git/scripts; export PATH"
[09:40] <somsip> opalepatrick: it's just a library thats deprecated isn't it? Though I admit I'm not up to date with 13.04
[09:40] <opalepatrick> probably somsip - I will play again :-)
[09:41] <mar_> opalepatrick, mkvmerge is excellent. Can't remember if it does mp4 or not
[09:41] <somsip> opalepatrick: do you want a command line for it?
[09:41] <mar_> opalepatrick, it has a GUI
[09:42] <Ben64> for good quality you'll want to use mp4box, mencoder, faac
[09:42] <mar_> opalepatrick, somsip, ffmpeg is now avconv
[09:42] <opalepatrick> I dont mind either way... actually all II want is a format that would play nice in a client blog when streamed
[09:42] <somsip> opalepatrick: http://pastebin.com/UdzTrzRU
[09:42] <opalepatrick> Yes mar I jut tried iconv, got an issue and stopped :-)
[09:43] <opalepatrick> thanks a lot for that somsip
[09:44] <somsip> opalepatrick: the file is not well commented, but you should get the idea. From memory, the conversion is decent enough
[09:44] <Gabriel403> Thanks guys
[09:45] <opalepatrick> no worries I can work through that somsip - I like command line stuff... I use imagemagick and think it is wonderful :-)
[09:45] <somsip> opalepatrick: np
[09:48] <jony> where I can find the JDK folder in Ubuntu?
[09:49] <sqrt7744> is it possible to connect to a samba share through nautilus with username/password? (13.04)
[09:51] <gvandeweyer> does the ubuntu-server (12.04 lts) installer provide the option to resize an existing partition at installation time? I want to install ubuntu next to an old centOS 5.8, which is under warranty, and which I don't want to wipe out :-)
[09:51] <stianhj> jony: /usr/lib/jvm/jdk-your-version or /usr/lib/jvm/java-X-oracle if you're using that
[09:51] <avirus> xubuntu 13.04 is awesome
[09:52] <MikeH> Has MySQL data location moved in 13.04?
[09:52] <stianhj> sqrt7744: unless they've changed it, yes. File -> Connect to server, and select Windows share. You can enter username/password there
[09:52] <MikeH> I see some stuff in /var/lib/mysql but it's too small to be my database
[09:53] <jony> stianhj, for netbeans I need it
[09:53] <sqrt7744> stianhj, ah, it used to be like that. They've changed it now. You can just put in the address in the format smb://server/share
[09:54] <twowenty> anyone seen "error:failure reading sector 0x000 from 'hd0'. grub rescue>" when booting?
[09:55] <jeanbaptiste_> Can i remove the messaging menu?
[09:57] <rindolf> Hi all.
[09:57] <rindolf> https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=ubuntu+glibc+dbg&oq=ubuntu+glibc+dbg&gs_l=serp.3..0i8i30.2477.2477.0.2725.1.1.0.0.0.0.161.161.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c..11.serp.yJFSpzBeaC8 - the first two links here are broken.
[09:57] <Ben64> rindolf: ok?
[09:58] <rindolf> Ben64: they should be fixed.
[09:58] <Ben64> rindolf: they wont be, those are for 8.04
[09:58] <jony> stianhj, it tells me that there isn't a jdk
[09:58] <rindolf> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libc6-dbg - this is a broken link.
[09:58] <rindolf> Ben64: ah.
[09:59] <stianhj> jony: then you need to install one
[10:00] <jony> stianhj, it's installed
[10:00] <cuonghl> hi all, I'm using Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 together. I got the problem that GRUB2 couldn't detect Windows 7 :( How can I fix it?
[10:00] <pagz> hi all, trying to follow some info i found on google about how to disable the guest account via editing lightdm.conf but im getting errors 'unable to open display'
[10:01] <stianhj> jony: is there anything in the /usr/lib/jvm folder?
[10:01] <Ben64> pagz: let us know what you're doing and the exact error
[10:01] <jony> stianhj, I have there three folders: java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386, java-7-openjdk-common, java-7-openjdk-i386
[10:02] <CVirus> I'm trying to remount a device as read only but nothing happens .. It is still writable: mount -f -t ext4 -o remount,ro /dev/sdc4 /mnt/foo
[10:02] <pagz> following this http://catlingmindswipe.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/how-to-disable-guest-account-on-ubuntu.html
[10:03] <Jordan_U> CVirus: What is the output of "cat /proc/mounts" and "touch /mnt/foo/test_file"?
[10:03] <pagz> while attemping to do 'gksu gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' i get '(gksu:9249): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:'
[10:03] <Jordan_U> CVirus: (Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com )
[10:03] <MikeH> I have a bit of a strange problem. My system seems to think that / is full. However doing a du -sh * doesn't show anything using any particularly large amount of space
[10:03] <stianhj> jony: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21561/how-to-install-jdk-and-netbeans
[10:04] <Jordan_U> pagz: Are you running that command from a tty?
[10:04] <CVirus> Jordan_U, /dev/sdc4 /mnt/arakoon_object_9005 ext4 rw,noatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,stripe=32,data=ordered,discard 0 0
[10:04] <Jordan_U> CVirus: Please pastebin the complete output.
[10:04] <CVirus> Jordan_U, trying to touch a file there works
[10:04] <pagz> from tty and from the desktop
[10:05] <Jordan_U> pagz: What if you just run "gedit" from the same terminal?
[10:06] <Jordan_U> pagz: Does it give a similar error message, or does gedit open?
[10:06] <jony> stianhj, it doesnt help me that link
[10:07] <Ben64> MikeH: how big is / ?
[10:07] <MikeH> Ben64: 910G
[10:07] <Ben64> MikeH: i take it you don't have a separate /home ?
[10:07] <MikeH> Ben64: No - just /
[10:08] <rindolf> MikeH: that sucks.
[10:08] <rindolf> MikeH: a separate /home is a good idea.
[10:08] <Ben64> MikeH: well you must have filled up your drive... free up some space : /
[10:08] <MikeH> This is the issue. du -sh / reports 5.2GB
[10:09] <pagz> Jordan_U i found the problem.... i was logged in as guest... logged out as my account and i got the guest account disabled now...
[10:09] <Jordan_U> pagz: That's a little ironic :)
[10:09] <pagz> thanks for the help
[10:09] <Jordan_U> pagz: You're welcome.
[10:10] <Ben64> MikeH: pastebin "df -h" and "du -h --max-depth 1 /home"
[10:10] <pagz> yea... i was about to go crazy :p
[10:11] <MikeH> Ben64: Little need to paste bin. /home is using 203M
[10:11] <MikeH> Ben64: Relevant potion of df -h: /dev/sda1       910G  863G     0 100% /
[10:11] <MikeH> I've never seen anything like it.
[10:12] <bardou-l> We choice a separate /Home during installation, isn't It ?
[10:12] <MikeH> I have no need for a separate /home - nothing of importance is stored there.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> MikeH: It could be that some app has been creating a lot of files (or one large file) then deleting it, but keeping the file open.
[10:14] <bardou-l> Sorry, I didn't understand
[10:15] <MikeH> Jordan_U: Actually - you're correct. I just noticed a lot of php processes. Killed them and the space is back.
[10:15] <naxil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk
[10:16] <MikeH> I think I know what the script is, but I can't see how that's happening
[10:29] <hulu> helo!
[10:29] <ezra-s> hello
[10:30] <hulu> who can help me with the live-dvd
[10:30] <hulu> who can help me with the live-dvd
[10:47] <Costeelation>  fdgfg
[10:47] <hulu> who can help me with live-dvd
[10:48] <Ben64> hulu: it might help if you said something more substantial
[10:49] <hulu> i want to change /etc/skel/* ,but livecd create ubuntu user without /etc/skel/*
[10:50] <hulu> who can help me
[10:50] <Ben64> you want to change something that doesn't exist?
[10:50] <hulu> Ben64: yes
[10:50] <Ben64> cool
[10:51] <Craig_E> Hulu: try rephrasing your question: whats your end goal - and we may be able to help..
[10:51] <Craig_E> answering "yes" to "so you want to change something that doesn't exist" isn't a good start '_
[10:51] <Craig_E> ;)
[10:52] <Richiie_> crap.. no one is answering in #ubuntu-touch
[10:52] <hulu> Craig_E: i want to change /etc/skel/*,but livecd create user without /etc/skel/*
[10:53] <k1l> Richiie: you were not answering the question adressed to you :/
[10:53] <javed> hi guys
[10:53] <llutz> hulu: so you have to change /whatever/livecd/uses/* instead
[10:54] <Javed> How are you all?
[10:55] <hulu> llutz: where is the /whatever/livecd/uses/* in 13.04
[10:55] <llutz> hulu: idk else i would have used the correct path
[10:57] <hulu> llutz: i don't know the correct path
[10:57] <llutz> hulu: so your real question is: where are the user-settings coming from (its not /etc/skel), when creating a new user using livecd?
[10:58] <hulu> llutz: yes
[10:58] <llutz> why don't you ask it then?
[10:59] <ezra-s> lol
[10:59] <hulu> where are the user-settings coming from (its not /etc/skel), when creating a new user using livecd?
[11:00] <chumu> about to install 13.04 but when attempting to partition drive there is not option to 200MB uefi drive, where is it
[11:00] <hulu> who can help me
[11:01] <ezra-s> chumu, are you installing the 64bit version?
[11:02] <samijam> there are many things that are faster in 13.04, but it still takes 10 seconds for the sound settings to open
[11:03] <hulu> llutz: can you help me?
[11:03] <samijam> speaking of sound settings, I always open it to turn the volume up to louder that 100%. Is there some way I can do this without opening the sound settings?
[11:04] <samijam> louder *than* 100%
[11:04] <PatrickDickey> hulu: This might give you an idea. Although it's intended for a different reason, the information might be useful. http://askubuntu.com/questions/128071/how-to-change-a-dconf-setting-for-customized-live-cd
[11:04] <llutz> hulu: as i told you before:i have no idea
[11:06] <ezra-s> samijam, which sound card do you have? I never had such problem
[11:07] <jony> how can I set an automatic download if a new CircleMagazine appears?
[11:08] <PatrickDickey> samijam: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32206/set-volume-from-terminal might be a good start.
[11:08] <PatrickDickey> jony: Are you talking about the Full Circle Magazine issues?
[11:09] <brainwash> samijam: you can use the pulseaudio command-line toll "pactl" and create a new autostart launcher for it
[11:09] <jony> PatrickDickey, yes
[11:09] <brainwash> tool*
[11:09] <samijam> I'm wanting the volume slider in the statusbar area(which i use the mouse scroll to adjust) to turn it past 100%.  In the sound settings I can go to 150%
[11:10] <PatrickDickey> jony: They used to have a script that you could run. it would check on a regular basis, and download the issue (and/or podcasts). If they're still using it, it's on their site or listed in the beginning of the magazine.
[11:10] <jony> PatrickDickey, ty
[11:10] <jony> by the way it's useful this magazine to improve skills in Linux?
[11:10] <PatrickDickey> jony: no problem. hope it helps. If it's not in the current issue, check some of them from last year (around Issue # 32 or so) for the link.
[11:11] <svip> Is the libsdl1.2-dev package broken in precise?  As far as I can gather, it is a problem with libdrm2 being a different version than expected.
[11:11] <gustav> Is Ubuntu mainly for consuming media?
[11:11] <svip> I assume it is a dependency problem.
[11:11] <PatrickDickey> jony: In some ways, yes. They have how-to articles, and a few series on different things like python, LibreOffice, and Blender.
[11:11] <linux_unix-10> why will Ubuntu  i386 not boot properly on dell inspiron?
[11:12] <PatrickDickey> linux_unix-10: It could be a lot of reasons. Do you get any error messages, or does it even try to boot?
[11:13] <ezra-s> linux_unix-10, what do you mean by "not boot properly"?
[11:13] <ezra-s> is it a UEFI machine?
[11:14] <frodef> Somehow my ubuntu 12.04 desktop has decided there should be a global shortcut such that Alt-Backspace opens a terminal. This makes emacs unusable. I can't find this configured anywhere, it's not in the system settings/keyboard/shortcuts config.  How can I remove it?
[11:14] <jrib> gustav: use ubuntu for whatever you want
[11:15] <ezra-s> gustav, I use ubuntu at home for gaming and internet browsing, at work for office stuff, in the living room as a media center with xbmc, many possibilities.
[11:16] <jrib> frodef: does it happen when you hit alt-backspace in gedit for example?
[11:16]  * PatrickDickey uses Ubuntu or one of it's variations for almost everything I do at home. 
[11:17] <papachan> how i can login to ubuntuone. i have reinstalled the certificate package
[11:20] <mouthwash> !xubuntu
[11:21] <ezra-s> papachan, which certificate are you talking about? there is an application with asks you for login and password for ubuntu one
[11:23] <papachan> ezra-s yes i have run that app and deleted my certficate with name "ubuntu one"
[11:24] <ezra-s> papachan, and what's that certificate has to do with ubuntu one?
[11:24] <anonymous> hi
[11:25] <papachan> ezra-s well how ican validate a session login through commandline? is there any debug to see which certificate ubuntuone is using actually?
[11:29] <Stameni> is there a separate channel for ubuntu-minimal ?
[11:29] <dn4> how do I find out if ubuntu installed the apple_system management controller
[11:29] <ezra-s> papachan, assuming your ubuntu one sync daemon is started try "u1sdtool -c"
[11:30] <papachan> hmmmm ezra-s i dont have ulsdtool
[11:31] <ezra-s> papachan, u1sdtool not ulsdtool
[11:31] <ezra-s> if you have ubuntu one installed you will have u1sdtool
[11:31] <papachan> ok
[11:32] <ezra-s> papachan, do a "dpkg -l | grep ubuntuone-client"
[11:32] <ezra-s> see if it shows you have ubuntuone-client installed
[11:32] <papachan> "GET / HEAD requests should not include body"
[11:32] <papachan> thats the login message
[11:33] <ezra-s> :-?
[11:33] <papachan> i cannot login through my ubuntuone login screen
[11:33] <papachan> running u1sdtool -c show the login screen
[11:33] <gustav> ezra-s: So mostly media?
[11:33] <sonofzeus> Hi
[11:33] <ezra-s> gustav, mostly anything
[11:33] <sonofzeus> How shall I find httpd.conf?
[11:34] <ezra-s> papachan, sorry I can't help you
[11:34] <papachan> thank you
[11:34] <papachan> no problem
[11:34] <gustav> Is there any way to flush 8.8.8.8? It has wrong data about my servers...
[11:36] <ezra-s> sonofzeus, do a "apt-file list apache2.2-common | grep conf"
[11:37] <ezra-s> sonofzeus, ubuntu uses apache2.conf instead it seems
[11:37] <dn4> how do I know if ubuntu installed the apple system management controllers ?
[11:37] <papachan> i think the error is a documented  OAUTH error https://github.com/idan/oauthlib/blob/master/oauthlib/oauth1/rfc5849/__init__.py#L268
[11:37] <AtuM> must say.. moving from F18 to 13.04 was a breeze.. but it's good to know how to setup a luks drive manually since the install process does not offer to use an existing one
[11:39] <jony> where I can find the JDK folder in Ubuntu it's needed for NetBeans install?
[11:39] <ezra-s> AtuM, there is no option for LUKS in the installer?
[11:40] <ezra-s> AtuM, previous versions had an option in the alternate install CD I recall, don't know about 13.04, will try in a few days
[11:41] <llutz> jony: did you install a jdk-package? then "readlink -f $(which javac)" should show you the path
[11:42] <AtuM> i didn't use alternate version install.. but i can say that it offers to make a luks partition.. i'm glad i didn't use that, since it would most likely reformat my data
[11:42] <AtuM> some systems detect luks and offer to input the password to unlock.. too bad ubuntu doesn't do that already
[11:43] <jony> llutz, yes, jdk 7 was installed from software center
[11:43] <ezra-s> Atum, I haven't seen a "alternate install" cd or iso for 13.04, I looked for it
[11:44] <llutz> "alternate-cd" was dropped with 12.10 afaik
[11:44] <ezra-s> ahh, that explains it, thanks llutz
[11:44] <AtuM> ezra-s, so have I.. perhaps it isn't ready yet.. the install itself goes really smooth and offers to manually partition your disks
[11:45] <AtuM> ezra-s, so I don't see the need for alternate anyway
[11:45] <talsamon> hello , i've tried to configure a static ip - it not works on boot, resolv.conf is empty, if i pipe nameserver XX.XX:XX:XXX in the resolv.conf and startet it with ifup eth0 everythings work - what is to do to make it work on boot
[11:46] <ezra-s> AtuM, hope manual partitioning allows you to easily handle luks and lvm.. previous version was kind of a nightmare, specially if you had saved changes to disk and wanted to go back, there was no way in the graphical installer to remove the lvm physical volumes
[11:46] <frodef> jrib: Yes, it seems to be a global shortcut.
[11:46] <AtuM> ezra-s, i skipped luks since I already had one.. from what I can tell lvm is a breeze
[11:46] <ezra-s> AtuM, if as llutz  has said the alternate install has been dropped is because those options in the alternate version have been merged obviously
[11:47] <ezra-s> lvm is good yes
[11:47] <jrib> frodef: the default shortcut for a terminal is ctrl-alt-t I think. Does that also work/
[11:48] <llutz> talsamon: edit /etc/network/interfaces , add a line "dns-nameservers 1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8" to your iface configuration
[11:49] <jony> llutz, yes, jdk 7 was installed from software center
[11:49] <talsamon> llutz,  is in my interfaces
[11:49] <llutz> talsamon: does it also contain "auto eth0"?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jony: which java?
[11:49] <talsamon> yes
[11:49] <alkisg> No gcompris in 13.04?! Btw, http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/gcompris/filelist exists, yet http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gcompris doesnt! Very strange, something went wrong with the archive there?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: check the change log
[11:50] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: how can I check the changelog of a missing package?
[11:50] <alkisg> Is it online on some page?
[11:50] <bazhang> !info gcompris | alkisg
[11:50] <jony> ActionParsnip, OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime
[11:50] <talsamon> llutz,  the resolv.conf is empry
[11:50] <talsamon> empty
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: the old versions from the previous releases still exists
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> jony: so from a PPA
[11:51] <ezra-s> alkisg, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:51] <jony> ActionParsnip, yes
[11:51] <llutz> talsamon: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please
[11:51] <llutz> !paste | talsamon
[11:52] <alkisg> ActionParsnip, ezra-s, it's not logical to see the filelist (http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/gcompris/filelist), then click on the package name on the web top menu, and get a "package does not exist" error... I'll search for a changelog
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/gcompris   seems to be there, its also in Saucy
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/i386/gcompris
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: not seeing any issues here....
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> jony: and what is the issue with java?
[11:52] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcompris => search for raring there
[11:53] <talsamon> llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618922/
[11:53] <jony> ActionParsnip, NetBeans installation asks for the JDK path, and I don't know which path to give him
[11:53] <llutz> talsamon: check spelling, dns-nameservers
[11:54] <alkisg> I don't see anything weird in the changelog... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/gcompris/+changelog
[11:54] <talsamon> llutz oh thanks
[11:54] <alkisg> Yet no binary packages
[11:54] <ezra-s> talsamon, network 127.0.0.1?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/+changelog   states published in Raring, You could report a bug
[11:54] <Saheb> nickserb register password mithun.starlite@gmail.com
[11:54] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: thank you
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> jony: what is the output of:   file `which java`
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Saheb: time for a new password dude
[11:54] <llutz> jony: "runtime" is jre not jdk, you need to install the openjdk-7-jdk package
[11:55] <llutz> and yes, openjdk is a confusing name
[11:56] <lessless> guys I need VM to use IEtester, what can be the fastest solution?
[11:56] <talsamon> ezra-s,  yes , thank - thats nosense ;-)
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/12.01-1ubuntu1/+build/3860256/+files/gcompris_12.01-1ubuntu1_i386.deb    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/12.01-1ubuntu1/+build/3860256/+files/gcompris-data_12.01-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: bit cheeky :)
[11:57] <ezra-s> talsamon :o)
[11:58] <talsamon> llutz, ezra-s  ok thank you it's working
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: may also need https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/12.01-1ubuntu1/+build/3860256/+files/gcompris-sound-en_12.01-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[11:59] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: thanks again :)
[12:00] <Saheb> http://pastebin.com/AXpZ4L4p
[12:01] <jony> llutz, ty, installing that package it worked
[12:02] <Saheb> ##java
[12:03] <xuser1> hi
[12:06] <lolz> hello peeps
[12:11] <maheshrs> n00b here, so wondering if this is the place to ask questions about xubuntu?
[12:11] <Y05H10> HEy guys, i'm having a problem with fstab and my Hard drives. Since i installed 12.10 there is a mount point for my HDD (/dev/mapper/pdc_cjdeaehcej) of which i don't know where it comes from. I used to have two 1TB drives mounted automatically by UUID in fstab. but now i can't define them anymore. One of them is mounted like i just wrote and one is just not accessable at all.
[12:11] <maheshrs> n00b here, so wondering if this is the place to ask questions about xubuntu?
[12:11] <DJones> maheshrs: Yes, you can ask here or in #xubuntu
[12:11] <ezra-s> maheshrs, don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:12] <maheshrs> thanks @djones. hey, i am trying to figure out how do i control what programs/daemons start on xubuntu and how can i switch some of them off
[12:12] <maheshrs> thanks ezra-s. now i know.
[12:12] <ezra-s> :P
[12:13] <maheshrs> i mean, i understand that all the *ubu-s use the new way of starting daemons in place of the old "linear" init way of starting daemons
[12:13] <maheshrs> and that makes life tough
[12:14] <ezra-s> maheshrs, I am not an expert in the matter since I rarely need it but I bet some of the info you need you will find it in here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/faq.html
[12:15] <maheshrs> yes! upstart! thanks ezra-s i will read through that manual to figure out if i can find something
[12:15] <Y05H10> After installing 12.10 i now have a mount point i have no idea where it comes from called /dev/mapper/pdc_cjdeaehcej it is not listed in fstab. How can i get rid of it?
[12:15] <ezra-s> maheshrs, ;)
[12:16] <xuser1> how cai i install ATI RV370 [Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series] driver in ubuntu?
[12:16] <Y05H10> GUys? No idea?
[12:16] <SwedeMike> Y05H10: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-172473.html
[12:17] <ezra-s> xuser1, in "software sources" for Additional drivers
[12:17] <Y05H10> Thanks SwedeMike, i read that too but the thing is that i don't even have a Raid, its just two normal 1TB Drives (Ntfs) i want to mount.
[12:17] <maheshrs> @y05h10, do you have raid enabled in your bios? or do you have raid drives? or do you have encrypted devices/drives?
[12:18] <xuser1> i cant find any driver in software sources
[12:18] <x_> STELLAAAAA
[12:18] <Y05H10> @maheshrs i do not have raid drives, they are not encrypted. ABout the bios thing. I don't know but it always worked before (also with 12.10)
[12:18] <maheshrs> do you use lvm?
[12:19] <ezra-s> xuser1, then you will have to install the binary from AMD manually in the terminal, it is usually a download and execute outside of X
[12:19] <maheshrs> @y05h10, do you use lvm
[12:19] <Y05H10> No
[12:19] <maheshrs> @y05h10, well then, I have run out of options! ;-)
[12:20] <Y05H10> and my fstab doesn't list the two HDD's. There is just my / my /home and my swap in there.
[12:20] <maheshrs> @y05h10, fairly certain that you are using lvm
[12:21] <maheshrs> @y05h10, can you please post the output of lvdisplay, vgdisplay and pvdisplay
[12:22] <Y05H10> sudo: lvdisplay: Befehl nicht gefunden (command not found) (not installed)
[12:22] <maheshrs> :(
[12:22] <Y05H10> same for the other two
[12:22] <Y05H10> i really don't use it
[12:23] <Y05H10> I just intalled 12.10 to my / partition today and kept my /home, during that these Two 1TB Drives were running in my COmputer and i think they were found by ubuntu as part of my setup
[12:24] <Y05H10> but i don't know why it created /dev/mapper/"........."
[12:24] <Y05H10> and that only for one of these drives
[12:25] <maheshrs> ok! I am no expert on these matters, but, I will explain to the best of my abilities. i am sure the seniors on this forum will fill in the gaps
[12:26] <maheshrs> at the time of installation, ubuntu usually installs lvm (logical volume manager)
[12:26] <jony> I installed openssh-server on a remote lubuntu PC, when I want to connect to it from my local terminal, it ask me a password, I type the remote pc's login password, but it tells me that's wrong, please help
[12:26] <maheshrs> i am sure you know what lvm is, but, just to be on the same page, lvm makes it easy manage hdds
[12:27] <maheshrs> it essentially makes all the hdds in your system appear as one "volume"
[12:27] <maheshrs> so in a way, it puts together all the free storage space from across all physical drives into one "storage volume"
[12:29] <maheshrs> can you please run fdisk? and just look at the output
[12:29] <maheshrs> does it say "linux lvm" anywhere?
[12:30] <maheshrs> @y05h10?
[12:30] <ezra-s> now that you mention it...
[12:30] <Y05H10> it doesnt
[12:30] <ezra-s> Y05H10, are you using LUKS?
[12:30] <jiwan> i can't create folder in Ubuntu 13.04
[12:30] <jiwan> why please help me?
[12:31] <ezra-s> jiwan, lack of permissions
[12:31] <Y05H10> No i don't, LUKS is the device encryption to clarify right?
[12:31] <jiwan> but i give the permission
[12:31] <maheshrs> @jiwan, maybe your file system is mounted read only or you don't have permission to create a folder in that directory
[12:31] <jiwan> so what should i have to do
[12:32] <jiwan> i tried sudo chmod u+rw /dev/sda6 too
[12:32] <jiwan> but it doesn't work
[12:32] <Y05H10> so, sudo fdisk -l doesn't say anything about lvm
[12:32] <ezra-s> Y05H10, luks works with lvm and that mapper weird volume name would explain you really are using lvm and luks ;P
[12:33] <ezra-s> Y05H10, paste fdisk -l in the ubuntu paste bin and share the link here so we can see
[12:33] <jony> if I connect locally to ssh (ssh localhost) I can login... from another PC it doesn't let me using the same password, WHY?
[12:33] <ezra-s> past fstab too if you can
[12:33] <jrib> jony: you get a password prompt?
[12:33] <ezra-s> jony, wrong user?
[12:33] <maheshrs> @ezra-s that is what I suspect too. and i asked @y05h10 to check all those things, but, he doesn't have any of them enabled!!
[12:33] <jony> yes, I got promt
[12:34] <Y05H10> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619007/
[12:35] <Y05H10> I have no idea where all these /dev/mapper entry's come from ...
[12:35] <jony> how can I specify in terminal the ssh username too?
[12:36] <ezra-s> Y05H10, have you checked the number and sizes?
[12:36] <ezra-s> /dev/mapper/pdc_cjdeaehcej1            2048  1953122303   976560128    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[12:36] <Y05H10> Not really no
[12:36] <ezra-s> /dev/sdb1            2048  1953122303   976560128    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[12:36] <ezra-s> 976560128
[12:37] <ezra-s> look familiar, doesnt it?
[12:37] <Y05H10> Yeah, thats correct. 1TB
[12:37] <Y05H10> to /dev/sde1
[12:37] <maheshrs> @y05h10, do you have a total of 5 disks in that machine?
[12:37] <Y05H10> Yes
[12:38] <Y05H10> well no
[12:38] <maheshrs> well! I am sorry! I was going to point out what @ezra-s has already found. :)
[12:38] <Y05H10> 1 Have 4, 1 SSD (split into / and /home) , 1 HDD 500GB (windows) 2x 1 HDD 1TB (Media and Media2)
[12:38] <Y05H10> so, 4 Disks and 5 Partitions
[12:38] <ezra-s> Y05H10, open a terminal, type " lvmdiskscan"
[12:39] <maheshrs> and your windows partition is mounted right now?
[12:39] <Y05H10> yes, and that /dev/mapper/"..." is too
[12:39] <ezra-s> also do a "mount" and paste all results in a paste link
[12:39] <jony> I want to connect to a remote desktop using VNC but I don't wanna to display anything the host's display, help please
[12:39] <Y05H10> Output : marius@Marius-PC:~$ lvmdiskscan Die Anwendung »lvmdiskscan« ist momentan nicht installiert. Sie können sie durch folgende Eingabe installieren: sudo apt-get install lvm2 marius@Marius-PC:~$
[12:39] <Y05H10> lvm 2 is not installed
[12:39] <ezra-s> I see
[12:39] <compdoc> jony, you dont want to share the desktop?
[12:40] <ezra-s> do a "mount" and paste please
[12:40] <Y05H10> mount http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619029/
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Y05H10: make sure you put your browser cache in tepfs, reduces writes to the SSD, as well as /var
[12:41] <Y05H10> Oh! I am so sorry! i actually have 5 disks
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Y05H10: sorry, /var on the platter based drive
[12:41] <maheshrs> @y05h10, I told you so! :D
[12:41] <Y05H10> Yeah, my External.. also 1TB
[12:41] <Y05H10> called Elements
[12:41] <Y05H10> How would i do so? ActionParsnip
[12:42] <maheshrs> @y05h10, can you just "cd /mnt/DC607A67607A4872" and see if the contents seem familiar?
[12:42] <jony> compdoc, exactly
[12:43] <maheshrs> @y05h10, can i make an alternate suggestion?
[12:43] <frodef> jrib: No, I think I disabled that one in the systems settings.
[12:43] <jony> compdoc, so I want to able to see the remote desktop, but I don't want to display my operations on the local display
[12:44] <compdoc> jony, you need a vnc server service. like vnc4server or tightvnc. But I think x11rdp is better than vnc
[12:44] <Y05H10> yeah, thats my Media HDD it is mounted i know, but the mount point is that /dev/mapper/"..." and it doesn't used to be this. Also i can't access my other 1TB HDD (Media2)
[12:44] <maheshrs> @ezra-s, can I make an alternate and "very low tech" suggestion to "@y05h10?
[12:44] <ezra-s> maheshrs, hehhe I am no boss
[12:45] <platzhirsch> How can I check version number etc. of a package with apt-get?
[12:45] <maheshrs> @y05h10, here's my suggestion: start "unmounting all disks one by one"
[12:45] <ezra-s> hahaha
[12:45] <maheshrs> and after unmounting (or safely removing drive, or ejecting, whatever ...) check the mount
[12:45] <ezra-s> unmount with one hand, cross fingers with the other :D
[12:45] <Y05H10> Hardware sided?
[12:45] <jony> compdoc, ty, I will try the last one
[12:45] <daleus> Why is a single disk appearing in the mapper folder? surely that's for fakeraid only (i.e nvidia chips etc)
[12:45] <ezra-s> he means with umount command
[12:45] <maheshrs> :)
[12:46] <frodef> jrib: I disabled the default Ctrl-Alt-T shortcut for terminal, that is. Sorry about the slow response.
[12:46] <ezra-s> Y05H10, have you pasted the "mount" command already?
[12:46] <Y05H10> yeah
[12:46] <Y05H10> ages ago
[12:46] <Y05H10> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619029/
[12:46] <maheshrs> yes! either unmount on the command line or just open the file browser and right click on each external "mount point" and choose "safely remove drive"
[12:46] <compdoc> jony, you mean x11rdp? this works well:  http://scarygliders.net/2012/06/20/x11rdp-o-matic-and-rdpsesconfig-version-2/
[12:47] <ezra-s> sorry I am looking many other places
[12:47] <Y05H10> so, the only devices i see in nautilus are Windows (500GB), Elements (1TB External) and Media (1TB Internal) i am, however, missing Media2
[12:47] <maheshrs> darn! low batt for me
[12:47] <Y05H10> Thats ok ezra ;)
[12:48] <ezra-s> Y05H10, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1096841
[12:48] <ezra-s> it's a FUSE thing
[12:48] <isaac_> hi all; does anyone know if you still have to use 32bit flash with steam or they support 64bit flash?
[12:48] <ezra-s> do not touch
[12:48] <maheshrs> also, correct me if i am wrong, but, you should only have 4 mounts
[12:49] <maheshrs> because the 5th mount is on your /, /home, etc
[12:49] <maheshrs> so you are not going to see it separately, right?
[12:49] <maheshrs> as far as I understand it, you are good to go
[12:49] <Y05H10> right
[12:49] <maheshrs> your system is up and running nicely with loads of disk space! :)
[12:49] <Y05H10> but i am still missing the 4th Mount..
[12:50] <Y05H10> I cannot access Media2
[12:50] <maheshrs> huh! ... oh!
[12:50] <Y05H10> and the Mount point of Media (/dev/mapper/"...") was suspicious to me like hell
[12:50] <ezra-s> Y05H10, check syslog see if there is an error when FUSE is trying to mount it
[12:51] <maheshrs> in the terminal "cd /mnt/DC607A67607A4872"
[12:51] <maheshrs> is that your external drive?
[12:51] <lenim> I be good.
[12:52] <maheshrs> darn! even lower batt for me
[12:52] <Y05H10> syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619061/
[12:52] <lenim> Hey use some elbow grease
[12:53] <jony> compdoc, ty for the link
[12:54] <crack> can your use the new ubuntu?
[12:54] <lenim> When worked on my model-t i just needed bandaides and a shoelace.
[12:54] <DJones> lenim: Please stay on topic, this is Ubuntu support, there are other channels for random chat
[12:55] <mank319> hey there :-)
[12:55] <lenim> crack: head bob of course you can use the new ubuntu
[12:55] <compdoc> jony, vnc stopped working with Unity in 12.11 and 13.04 without installing gnome-fallback. x11rdp uses gnome-fallback too, but I like it better than vnc now
[12:55] <mank319> are scripts saved at /etc/network/if-up.d/ excuted by root?
[12:55] <mank319> cause i am trying to mount a smb share there upon network connection
[12:55] <sheerun> Guys, could you help? SUID is not working for me: http://pastie.org/7742656
[12:55] <mank319> when i run taht script manually with sudo it works
[12:56] <mank319> but it does not appear to get executed
[12:56] <Y05H10> can't i just reconfigure fuse to forget these devices or something? so that i can go and define them myself like before in fstab?
[12:56] <snuggl> mank319: put auto mounts in fstab
[12:56] <mank319> well that does not work
[12:56] <mank319> i cannot specify a delay there
[12:56] <snuggl> ah
[12:56] <mank319> i have a homserver which gets shut up and down
[12:56] <mank319> when i connect to the network a magicpacket gets sent to wake the server. then it will take like 5-10 seconds until its read
[12:57] <mank319> i have written a nice script which listens for the server to be ready and everything
[12:57] <maheshrs> @y05h10, my batt is very low so i am jumping off for now. but it does appear that your external disk is NOT mounted right now.
[12:57] <mank319> i just need it to be executed with root permisison upon network.up
[12:57] <maheshrs> just reboot the system and check, plz
[12:57] <Y05H10> But it is, anyway thank you ;)
[12:57] <Y05H10> I rebooted a few times
[12:57] <maheshrs> :D
[12:57] <maheshrs> bye for now!
[12:57] <Y05H10> bye
[12:57] <maheshrs> and all the best.
[12:58] <mank319> so does anyone know with which priviliges scripts in if-up.d get executed?
[12:58] <Y05H10> You too, thanks a lot
[12:58] <mank319> i assumed it would be root, cause its "kind of  a system thing"
[12:59] <Mahdie> hi
[13:00] <mank319> so does anyone know with which priviliges scripts in if-up.d get executed?
[13:00] <soundtrouble> Hi, i have a quastion about the order of my sound cards in ALSA. currently the on-board realtek is first and the video card's HDMI is second
[13:01] <soundtrouble> both have snd-hda-intel as driver
[13:01] <soundtrouble> i want to swap their order
[13:03] <ezra-s> soundtrouble, swap the order? in ubuntu all you have to do is select the device you want to use in "sound settings"
[13:04] <soundtrouble> ezra-s: I know, that's working for most stuff, but apparently some things bypass this...
[13:05] <acalvo> a
[13:05] <ezra-s> soundtrouble, maybe you want to blacklist the device in modprobe.d
[13:05] <Amnuriak> Trying to get my graphics drivers working properly again (e.g. have second monitor detected). Details are recorded here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285354/graphics-driver-for-ati-firepro-2770-not-working-properly-on-12-04
[13:06] <soundtrouble> ezra-z: I have just googled around some more and found the card-id might be used in specifying the order
[13:06] <ezra-s> soundtrouble, although as you say if they use the same module maybe it is a matter of an option when loading the module, but, you will have to google it hard for that I bet
[13:06] <ezra-s> soundtrouble, oh, nice, thx for sharing
[13:06] <soundtrouble> like this: options snd-hda-intel id=HDMI index=0  \\ options snd-hda-intel id=SB index=1
[13:07] <ezra-s> that's cool
[13:07] <soundtrouble> I'll have to chek if that's working though...
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Amnuriak: have you tried the fglrx legacy ppa
[13:07] <jony> compdoc, the remote PC runs Lubuntu 12.04
[13:07] <ezra-s> soundtrouble, where are you supposed to place those options?
[13:08] <ezra-s> alsa-base.conf?
[13:09] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Pastebin the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[13:10] <soundtrouble> ezra-s: I believe in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[13:10] <soundtrouble> indeed
[13:11] <ezra-s> yep, there are options like that at the bottom of that file, nice and easy :)
[13:11] <ezra-s> faster thing will be to reboot to check
[13:12] <trent_> pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0 dazed and confused but trying to continue ?
[13:12] <juliano> olá
[13:12] <juliano> algum ?
[13:12] <trent_> [    0.534958] pcie_pme 0000:00:1c.3:pcie01: service driver pcie_pme loaded [    0.534975] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 [    0.535057] pciehp 0000:00:1c.0:pcie04: HPC vendor_id 8086 device_id 27d0 ss_vid 17aa ss_did 2011 [    0.535082] pciehp 0000:00:1c.0:pcie04: service driver pciehp loaded [    0.535096] pciehp 0000:00:1c.1:pcie04: HPC vendor_id 8086 device_id 27d2 ss_vid 17aa ss_did 2011 [    0.535117] pciehp 0000
[13:13] <trent_> oops
[13:13] <Amnuriak> adamk_: http://pastebin.com/QBeJrBbQ
[13:13] <soundtrouble> ezra-s: rebooting in a few secs...
[13:14] <Amnuriak> ActionParsnip: No I haven't, didn't know about those. Trying to find something about them and try them out. thanks
[13:16] <soundtrouble> ezra-s: working
[13:16] <ezra-s> ;)
[13:16] <adamk_> Amnuriak: The legacy driver should not be necessary as that video card has a Cedar GPU.
[13:16] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Pastebin the output of 'dmesg'
[13:17] <Amnuriak> adamk_: http://pastebin.com/v1ew8m2v
[13:19] <designbybeck> I have an external drive I'm try to format and use for backup. After a number of attempts quick formating and full formating, deleting partitions and adding new ones. It still gives me an error and says it is read-only. how do I fix this!?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Amnuriak: if its a 2xxx 3xxx or 4xxx Radeon GPU, you'll need that PPA
[13:19] <trent_> pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619133/plain/
[13:20] <adamk_> Amnuriak: There is something odd going on here... Xorg is loading the fglrx_drv driver, but it's not using it and instead loads and uses fbdev.
[13:20] <ezra-s> designbybeck, are you using root to format?
[13:20] <Amnuriak> adamk_: yep, that's what I don't understand
[13:20] <adamk_> ActionParsnip: It uses a Cedar GPU, the same core that's in most HD5xxx GPUs.
[13:20] <adamk_> I'm wondering if, as a FireGL card, it requires a special driver, despite using the same core as the HD5xxx GPU.
[13:20] <designbybeck> ezra-s: hmmm....not sure? when I opened Disks or GParted it asks for password
[13:21] <Amnuriak> adamk_: I was wondering if "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:0) found " was the real hint to the error and the reason why the drivers would not load
[13:21] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?  If so, can you pastebin it.  Also, please pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> adamk_: I see
[13:22] <ezra-s> designbybeck, maybe the disk you are trying to format, etc is being used
[13:22] <designbybeck> it did delete the 2 partitions on there and formated fine, It shows 500gb free
[13:23] <Amnuriak> adamk_: lspci -> http://pastebin.com/PVnCvEir
[13:23] <usr13> designbybeck: mount  #See if the drive you are working on is mounted.
[13:24] <designbybeck> yes usr, I dod see it as /dev/sdb1
[13:24] <Amnuriak> adamk_: xorg.conf -> http://pastebin.com/frLXLagJ
[13:24] <designbybeck> do see it
[13:25] <erraneous> What's with all the underscores?
[13:25] <brian____> was trying to find a name not registered with nickserv
[13:25] <ezra-s> how unimaginative :P
[13:25] <ezra-s> ;)
[13:26] <ibn_> hola
[13:26] <usr13> designbybeck: You'll need to un mount it.
[13:26] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Check the files under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ too... The default settings definitely aren't being used since AIGLX is getting disabled. I can only guess what other changes might have been made to those files.
[13:26] <designbybeck> usr13:  i'll have to unmount it before I can copy files to it?
[13:27] <trent__>   A little help..... pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619133/plain/
[13:27] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Once you get those config files set back to their defaults, try generating a new xorg.conf file with 'aticonfig --initial'
[13:27] <usr13> designbybeck: Oh, I thought you were formatting or changing partitions.  I'm sorry.
[13:27] <designbybeck> usr13: yeah I think all that went smoothly. But now if I try to copy anything to it, it says it is read-only
[13:27] <brian____> ezra-s, ha yeah, 15 years ago, I was much more creative with my name
[13:28] <usr13> designbybeck:  What kind of device is it?
[13:28] <designbybeck> a LACIE 500GB external HDD
[13:28] <designbybeck> usr13
[13:29] <Amnuriak> adamk_: There are 8 files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ but I really do not know what to do with them (syntactically they look like the xorg.conf) and I doubt you want me to pastebin them all
[13:29] <usr13> designbybeck: Show is the line for it from the output of   mount
[13:29] <designbybeck> /dev/sdb1 on /media/beck/Backup type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[13:29] <designbybeck> usr13
[13:30] <usr13> designbybeck: It's mounted rw so, not sure what the problem is.
[13:30] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Well I am guessing that at least one of them may be contributing to this problem, so if you don't know what you're looking for/at then, yes, pastebin them.
[13:30] <designbybeck> usr13: hmmm.. it is one of those drives that uses two usb ports to plugin for power
[13:31] <Amnuriak> adamk_: ok, will do one at a time. this will take some time
[13:31] <usr13> designbybeck: Do you have a line in /etc/fstab file? If so, pastebinit /etc/fstab  #And send URL
[13:31] <usr13> designbybeck: Or show us the line.
[13:31] <ezra-s> designbybeck, usr13 problem is that it is mounted!
[13:32] <brian____> Ok, for the life of me, I can't get this stupid rtl8192cu usb network dongle to work.  I am getting a invalid argument when I start wlan0 which starts wpa_supplament?  It appears to go, becuase I see authentication attempts in the syslog.  Does anyone know if the rtl8192cu is going to work with the comp drivers or do I need to download the realtek ones?  I've googled so much, not sure what I believe...
[13:32] <Amnuriak> adamk_: 10-evdev.conf -> http://pastebin.com/rALnbnGD    (filename -> pastebin location)
[13:32] <user0> Hi can someone help with this please ? sources.list/dpkg fail -> http://pastebin.com/5FkuzrAr
[13:32] <designbybeck> usr13: ezra-s http://www.pasteall.org/41839
[13:32] <usr13> ezra-s: What is he trying to do to it?
[13:32] <designbybeck> ezra-s:  I have it formated, I need it mounted to copy files to
[13:32] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Just combine them into one file...  Or one pastebin.
[13:32] <designbybeck> It says read-only
[13:32] <Amnuriak> adamk_: ok
[13:32] <ezra-s> designbybeck, sorry I thought you were still trying to partition and format
[13:33] <designbybeck> ezra-s:  no I think that did go ok, because it shows the new label and 500gb free. It just will not let me copy anything to it because it says read-only
[13:34] <syncsys_> I need a biomatrix (finger / thumb impression) tool on which employees put thumbs and the time and their id no. name etc comes on screen and is also feeded for HR and their pay calculation purposes. My question is that what model / make should I buy that also supports Linux OS and can be operated by open source softwares. 2. are there any open source softwares that do it (for linux and windows) ?
[13:34] <ezra-s> user0, change software sources to main server or a mirror which works
[13:34] <usr13> designbybeck: sdb1 is the one you are trying to write files to, right?
[13:35] <designbybeck> correct usr13
[13:35] <designbybeck> usr13:  that is the one I labeled my "Backup" drive
[13:35] <jamie_> How do I restore lxpanel?
[13:35] <trent__> HALP pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619133/plain/
[13:36] <usr13> designbybeck: sudo blkid |pastebinit   #Or just show us the line for sdb1
[13:36] <ezra-s> designbybeck, also paste the output of "mount"
[13:36] <designbybeck> usr13:  /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Backup" UUID="FD5E-C513" TYPE="vfat"
[13:37] <designbybeck> ezra-s:/dev/sdb1 on /media/beck/Backup type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[13:37] <Amnuriak> adamk_: http://pastebin.com/DJUmCiyh    check the very last file listed there. Is that "Off" the bad guy ?
[13:37] <ezra-s> designbybeck, I assumed you have tried writing with root right?
[13:38] <designbybeck> no i have not ezra-s, I was just trying to copy over my home folder to backup so I cna do a clean install of 13.04
[13:38] <jamie_> Which channel do i need to get help with lubuntu?
[13:38] <jhirley> hello, I am getting the connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"? error under ubuntu server.  any guidance on where to look ,  I can see postgres in ps but not in netstat ?  TIA ..
[13:38] <ezra-s> permissions there are 700 If I am not correct and the uid given is 1000 and 1000 for gid... so all inside is 700
[13:39] <ezra-s> you better use the correct user or try as root
[13:39] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Well disabling AIGLX won't cause fglrx to not work, but it's still not normal.  I'm also very confused as to why you are loading the pvr driver when you're not using a PowerVR GPU.
[13:39] <designbybeck> if I do it as root ezra-s, can I still access it on other machines and/or this one when I need to copy the files back over?
[13:40] <designbybeck> would it be something like this sudo cp /home/username/*
[13:40] <Amnuriak> adamk_: I can't remember fiddling around with anything graphics related, not by hand at least (only via the system settings drivers/display)
[13:41] <ezra-s> designbybeck, it is for testing
[13:41] <trent__> where is my friend bean?
[13:41] <ezra-s> designbybeck, if root can't noone can
[13:41] <ezra-s> designbybeck, go to the disk with cd
[13:41] <ezra-s> and do "touch test"
[13:41] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Well something you did caused that change, since that's certainly not the default :-)  Remove that entire file.
[13:41] <ezra-s> to see if root can create that file in it
[13:41] <ezra-s> if root can you probably have a permissions problem
[13:41] <Amnuriak> adamk_: I suppose that takes a reboot to kick in ?
[13:41] <ezra-s> chancking the umask might do then
[13:41] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Then try creating an xorg.conf file with 'aticonfig --initial'
[13:42] <adamk_> Amnuriak: No, it doesn't.
[13:42] <designbybeck> ezra-s: touch test returned no results
[13:42] <designbybeck> i went to /media/username/Backup
[13:43] <helmut_> hi
[13:43] <Amnuriak> sudo aticonfig --initial ->  "Uninitialised file found, configuring. Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:43] <Amnuriak> adamk_: sudo aticonfig --initial ->  "Uninitialised file found, configuring. Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (sorry, forgot name tag)
[13:43] <trent__> anybody?  pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619133/plain/
[13:44] <ezra-s> designbybeck, you should have a test file whereever your ran that
[13:44] <designbybeck> oh
[13:44] <designbybeck> uhhh
[13:44] <ezra-s> touch creates empty file, it's good to test if you can write
[13:44] <designbybeck> oh yeah I do
[13:44] <designbybeck> i did an ls and I can see a file now ezra-s
[13:44] <ezra-s> designbybeck, with root?
[13:44] <designbybeck> and I can see it in the file browser as well
[13:44] <designbybeck> no that wasn't root
[13:45] <ezra-s> then you can write ;)
[13:45] <designbybeck> it let me delete it from the gui as well
[13:45] <designbybeck> as my main user
[13:45] <adamk_> Amnuriak: That's fine.
[13:45] <ezra-s> designbybeck, I bet the user you used for touch was the one with id 1000
[13:45] <ezra-s> use the same user to create files, etc..
[13:45] <designbybeck> dang, but when i try to make a new directory on that drive it still says read-only
[13:46] <Amnuriak> adamk_: I really am a novice when it comes to X11 but I thought having it adapt to new configurations requires it to restart, meaning rebooting ubuntu since I'm running only graphical desktop version
[13:46] <vnc786> exit
[13:46] <ezra-s> designbybeck, simple, check that /media/username/Backup has write permissions for your user
[13:47] <adamk_> Amnuriak: It only requires a restart if there is some change in the kernel driver being used.
[13:47] <ubu> what cli command will show me how many ram sticks I am using? i looked at /proc/meminfo and it doesn't show individual sticks or slots
[13:47] <designbybeck> ezra-s: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=50378
[13:48] <Amnuriak> adamk_: isn't that the actual goal ? make it use the fglrx ? sorry for being blut, I'm pretty confused by now. By the way, there were no obvious changes after the call to aticonfig (meaning same problems with monitors)
[13:48] <Amnuriak> s/blut/blunt/
[13:49] <ubu> found it, it's sudo dmidecode --type 17 IF anyone is curious
[13:49] <ciccios> ciao
[13:49] <ciccios> !list
[13:50] <ubu> whats with people coming in here and thinking theres warez here?
[13:50] <ezra-s> designbybeck, never trust graphical interface, go to terminal and check permissions yourself, if you can create a file I see no reason why you can't create a dir unless you are using different users
[13:50] <betrayd> ubu: maybe they're looking for people who know where some can be found
[13:50] <designbybeck> hwo do I check prems on that drive ezra-s?
[13:51] <designbybeck> an ls -l just returns totls 0 ezra-s
[13:51] <ubu> betrayd, no, they're coming in and running a command. see the recent ciccios person
[13:51] <trent__> any help pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619133/plain/
[13:51] <ubu> designbybeck, ls -la
[13:52] <usr13> designbybeck: We see -Read  -Write -Execute   should be  +Read  +Write +Execute  (File Permissions)
[13:52] <designbybeck> thanks ubu
[13:52] <designbybeck> usr13: ezra-s ubu : total 20
[13:52] <designbybeck> drwx------  2 beck beck 16384 Apr 30 08:45 .
[13:52] <designbybeck> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root  4096 Apr 30 08:15 ..
[13:52] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Pastebin the new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.  The problem you are having is getting Xorg to use the fglrx driver, not getting the kernel to load the fglrx driver.
[13:53] <ubu> designbybeck, looks like only the folders owner has write permissions, the group permissions are read/execute. and "others" have NO permissions at all
[13:53] <designbybeck> hmmm how do we solve this ubu?
[13:53] <ubu> trent_, trying to access your pastebin link, it's asking me to log into launchpad. do you haev another pastebin link?
[13:53] <Amnuriak> adaml_: http://pastebin.com/CXbeAdUR
[13:54] <trent__> ill make one
[13:54] <ubu> designbybeck, well, ezra-s was helping you, don't want to jump in mid way through
[13:54] <designbybeck> i need all the help I can get ;)
[13:54] <designbybeck> Just trying to back up my system so I can do a clean install of 13.04 on it
[13:54] <ubu> designbybeck, what's the end goal?
[13:55] <designbybeck> ubu: ^
[13:55] <bobshi> hi
[13:55] <bobshi> may I ask a question
[13:55] <ubu> designbybeck, any reason you specifically want to upgrade to 13.04?
[13:55] <trent_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619242/
[13:56] <ubu> designbybeck, i meant, why are you curious about permissions. what's the end goal for that folder? permissions/owner/group wise
[13:56] <ubu> bobshi, just ask it
[13:56] <usr13>  designbybeck What are you on now? 12.04?
[13:56] <designbybeck> I've always upgraded to the lastest ubu, I try to learn it so I can stay ahead of the curve when other people ask, I can show them new things
[13:56] <k2> guys, i have a internet connection problem
[13:56] <designbybeck> I'm on 12.10 right now usr13
[13:56] <bobshi> I installed ubuntu 13.04,but the terminal bell not work
[13:56] <usr13> designbybeck: What command did you use to mount the drive?
[13:57] <ubu> designbybeck, me personally stick with the LTS releases, way more stable
[13:57] <k2> very old -> internet connection problem
[13:57] <designbybeck> usr13:  I just plug it in
[13:57] <k2> PPPoE
[13:57] <k2> help
[13:58] <usr13> designbybeck: How many users on this system?
[13:58] <ubu> trent_, i can see the dmesg output BUT what is the problem?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !ppoe | k2
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !adsl
[13:58] <trent__> pci system error (serr) for reason a1 on cpu 0  dazed and confused but trying to continue
[13:58] <lenim> Ubuntus that end in .04 are better than .10 versions
[13:58] <k2> yes ActionParsnip
[13:58] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Did you restart X after removing that file and creating the xorg.conf file?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> lenim: not always
[13:58] <designbybeck> just me usr13
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> lenim: although the LTS ones will always end in .04, but not all .04 releases are LTS
[13:59] <trent_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619242/plain/
[13:59] <bobshi> how can i enable ternimal bell?
[13:59] <lenim> ActionParsnip: seems that way
[14:00] <trent__> not sure what inm doing wrong with paste bin thet seem to work for me
[14:00] <usr13> designbybeck: sudo chmod 777 /media/beck/Backup
[14:00] <ubu> trent_, i understand that BUT sometimes those are just warnings or messages and don't cause anything to be actually wrong.
[14:00] <Amnuriak> adamk_: i just did (via alt+print+k). guess now you would need the log file ?
[14:00] <trent__> yeah?
[14:00] <k2> i have tabulated all my problem here http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/pppoe-connection-problem-nothing-works
[14:01] <trent__> i mean it does boot but its just worry some
[14:01] <ubu> trent_, i am saying, is there some behavior on your system that is alarming? does your system work ok?
[14:01] <k2> please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/pppoe-connection-problem-nothing-works
[14:01] <trent__> never had this message with mint or fedora
[14:01] <k2> i cant tell everything in a line
[14:01] <k2> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/pppoe-connection-problem-nothing-works
[14:02] <Amnuriak> adamk_: a, something changed: I can now disable the "mirror displays" in system-settings->display but I cannot apply the change as hitting the "Apply" button shows up error messages (pastebin with the messages coming up)
[14:03] <k2> ActionParsnip ; for u , plz hav a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/pppoe-connection-problem-nothing-works
[14:03] <thesilence84> Hey all, anyone up for looking at a suspend issue?
[14:04] <Amnuriak> adamk_: on hitting apply there are actually 2 error messages, one after another: http://pastebin.com/A95bH9aM
[14:04] <designbybeck> usr13:  that didn't seem to change anything
[14:04] <designbybeck> usr13: http://www.pasteall.org/41840
[14:05] <Amnuriak> adamk_: my /var/log/Xorg.0.log now: http://pastebin.com/XuWFyyxt
[14:06] <Amnuriak> adamk_: and my /var/log/Xog.1.log now: http://pastebin.com/4st7madN
[14:06] <jeanbaptiste> Ubuntu, unity and firefox are best imo but they all need speeding up. Its too slow
[14:06] <k2> hello folks plz abswer if anybody knows http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/pppoe-connection-problem-nothing-works
[14:07] <ubu> designbybeck, what filesystem is your external media device? NTFS?
[14:07] <designbybeck> not sure ubu
[14:07] <designbybeck> i think it might have been NTFS
[14:07] <designbybeck> i was guessing I might hook to a windows system at sometime
[14:07] <adamk_> Amnuriak: Pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  All we should need to do now, I think, is add a Virtual line.
[14:08] <designbybeck> but at this point I don't care I just wanted to backup and restore
[14:08] <thesilence84> k2 do a pastebin of your ppp.conf file
[14:08] <k2> coming in a minute, because im on dual boot
[14:08] <juan_144> Hi, my video card seems not supported on Lubuntu 13.04 HP compaq d530
[14:08] <Amnuriak> adamk_: http://pastebin.com/Ydr7k9NC
[14:09] <ubu> trent_, i googled that error and it appears to be related to something that probably is irrelevant. read this: http://ryagatich.blogspot.com/
[14:10] <SuperLag> I have a VM that is in a reboot loop, and I'd like to record a video of it happening... what package/app would I use for that?
[14:10] <ubu> designbybeck, IF it's NTFS you can't change the permissions
[14:10] <designbybeck> well that isn't cool ubu, Let me do another format on it
[14:10] <ubu> designbybeck, is the external drive empty?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> juan_144: what video chip?
[14:11] <designbybeck> and set it to ext4 ubu ?
[14:11] <designbybeck> yes ubu
[14:11] <ubu> SuperLag, i have a lot of success with Kazam screencaster
[14:11] <adamk_> Amnuriak: http://pastebin.com/SYcNTBYa  Notice that the only difference is line 36.  We're essentially telling Xorg how much memory to reserve for the maximum framebuffer resolution.
[14:12] <designbybeck> Agreed Kazam is a great screencaster for Ubuntu
[14:12] <SuperLag> ubu: is that something in the repos? or 3rd-partu?
[14:12] <ubu> designbybeck, it's really dependent on what systems you'll hook it up to.
[14:12] <designbybeck> right now just Linux, I'll worry about the rest down the road
[14:12] <ubu> designbybeck, if you want to access from windows and you know you won't have files larger then 4GB in size, you could go with FAT32
[14:12] <ubu> SuperLag, i don't recall, just check the standard ubuntu repo's first
[14:12] <SuperLag> ubu: found it. Thanks man.
[14:12] <SuperLag> ubu: it was in the repos
[14:13] <betrayd> but the reboot loop is the main problem eh
[14:13] <ubu> designbybeck, picking the filesystem, you need to choose the right 1 for now AND the future since you won't be able to reformat it without losing the data on it.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ubu: unless a backup exists (and it should)
[14:14] <designbybeck> that is ok ubu because all I need for now is to backup, install and restore.... then I can do something else with this external harddrive
[14:14] <ubu> ActionParsnip, well of course
[14:14] <designbybeck> i did a quick format as ext4, but it still says read-only
[14:14] <ubu> designbybeck, what are you backing up specifically that you'll restore once you install 13.04?
[14:14] <gyre008> guy Im trying to create a USB boot drive
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> gyre008: try unetbootin
[14:15] <gyre008> however...when I start startup disk createor it doesnt detec the USB rive at all
[14:15] <ubu> designbybeck, did you unmount it, format it using gparted to ext4, then plug it back in?
[14:15] <designbybeck> ubu:  beck@beck-citr:/media/beck/Backup$ ls -al
[14:15] <designbybeck> total 24
[14:15] <designbybeck> drwx------  3 beck beck  4096 Apr 30 09:12 .
[14:15] <designbybeck> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root  4096 Apr 30 09:13 ..
[14:15] <designbybeck> drwx------  2 root root 16384 Apr 30 09:12 lost+found
[14:15] <FloodBot1> designbybeck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> gyre008: what OS are you making the device in?
[14:15] <gyre008> Ubuntu
[14:15] <gyre008> 12.04
[14:15] <Quest> I need a biomatrix (finger / thumb impression) tool on which employees put thumbs and the time and their id no. name etc comes on screen and is also feeded for HR and their pay calculation purposes. My question is that what model / make should I buy that also supports Linux OS and can be operated by open source softwares. 2. are there any open source softwares that do it (for linux and windows) ?
[14:15] <usr13> designbybeck: I just now realized that Backup is a directory on the HD  The mount point is /media/beck/   I suppose you could have just created another directory.  mkdir /media/beck/Backup2
[14:15] <gyre008> there is a ext4 partition on the USB drive created
[14:16] <designbybeck> hmmmm usr13
[14:16] <gyre008> I can mount it just fine and create files on it when mounted
[14:16] <gyre008> however startup disk creator is simply not detecting it...
[14:16] <gyre008> no idea why
[14:16] <usr13> designbybeck: Never mind, I guess I'm wrong about that too.
[14:17] <gyre008> when I plug it into the the pc it's automatically mounted...
[14:17] <designbybeck> even as ext4 I can't do anything with this drive
[14:17] <usr13> designbybeck: Does this drive have any external type hardware switches on it?
[14:17] <gyre008> df -h
[14:17] <designbybeck> ubu: , I did unplug it and plugged it back in. It does have a lost+found dir now
[14:17] <designbybeck> but if I try to create a dir it says read-only
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:17] <llldino> Hey guys, i'm having trouble booting 13.04 off grub, it hangs right after I select ubuntu anyone have advice?
[14:17] <designbybeck> Hello BluesKaj
[14:18] <gyre008> damn..now its detected but make startup disk button is inactive...man this is weird...
[14:18] <ubu> designbybeck, what does the command "mount" return for the external media drive?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hi designbybeck
[14:18] <designbybeck> beck@beck-citr:/media/beck/Backup$ ls -al
[14:18] <designbybeck> total 24
[14:18] <designbybeck> drwx------  3 beck beck  4096 Apr 30 09:12 .
[14:18] <designbybeck> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root  4096 Apr 30 09:13 ..
[14:18] <designbybeck> drwx------  2 root root 16384 Apr 30 09:12 lost+found
[14:18] <FloodBot1> designbybeck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <designbybeck> sorry flood
[14:18] <Amnuriak> adamk_: the display section is working again. very nice, thank you !
[14:18] <designbybeck> ubu: /dev/sdb1 on /media/beck/Backup type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[14:19] <SuperLag> ubu: that works great. Thank you for the recommendation.
[14:19] <ubu> gyre008, i had issues with startup disk creator also. trying to install xubuntu 13.04 onto a 4GB usb stick the create was greyed out and it stated that my 4GB usb stick wasn't large enough
[14:19] <Amnuriak> adamk_: though I still cannot attach windows to the borders (any longer) but that is only a small annoyance compared to the dual screen issue
[14:19] <llldino> gyre008, There was a guy in here yesterday complaining of the same issue, if that makes you feel any better
[14:19] <ubu> SuperLag, no problem
[14:19] <ubu> designbybeck, it shows it's read/write
[14:19] <gyre008> haha yeah it dies llldino
[14:20] <Amnuriak> adamk_: were you also able to see what might have caused the issue ? (So I'm better prepared for the next time)
[14:20] <designbybeck> ubu:  but why it no read/write
[14:20] <k2> k2 is back
[14:20] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, please unmount the media device for me
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> llldino: what GPU do you use?
[14:21] <designbybeck> can I do that in gui, just eject it?
[14:21] <designbybeck> ubu: ^
[14:21] <ubu> designbybeck, i want to start from scratch. unmount it and I want to check something
[14:21] <ubu> designbybeck, yes, click safely remove or eject
[14:22] <designbybeck> ok ubu I think it is unmounted
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: you can check by running:  mount
[14:22] <designbybeck> ubu:  confirmed "mount" does not show it
[14:22] <ubu> designbybeck, does the command mount return anything related to /dev/sdb1?
[14:22] <designbybeck> I'm slowly learnin' ActionParsnip ;)
[14:22] <designbybeck> no it does not ubu
[14:22] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, now pastebin the output of ls -la /media/
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: or just run:  cd $HOME; sudo umount /dev/sdb1; sdo eject /dev/sdb
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: simples :)
[14:23] <lmat> I installed openjdk-7-jdk  and now java -version returns version 6, and javac -version returns version 7.
[14:23] <gyre008> so the question is...is it even possible without some kind of dark voodoo ubuntu magic ?
[14:23] <llldino> ActionParsnip, NVIDA Gforce 9400m
[14:23] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41841
[14:24] <lmat> It looks like ubuntu comes with java v1.6 by default, and when I installed jdk7, it didn't overwrite the java 6, but added javac 7. I would like everything to be on 1.7, what should I do?
[14:24] <lmat> I tried openjdk-7-jre but it's already installed (as a dependency of jdk.)
[14:24] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, do you use the beck folder within /media/?
[14:24] <designbybeck> i believe so ubu
[14:24] <designbybeck> that is where the Backup was
[14:24] <ska> Is it safe to remove dnsmasq service for a statically connected box?
[14:25] <usr13> designbybeck: sudo chmod 777 /media/beck  ?
[14:25] <vicente_DICL> ??
[14:25] <ubu> designbybeck, what does ls -la /media/beck/ return?
[14:25] <vicente_DICL> depends of what you have mounted in beck
[14:26] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41842
[14:26] <designbybeck> nohting mounted at the moment vicente_DICL, we are trying to figure out why this external will not let me copy things to it, it only shows read-only
[14:26] <vicente_DICL> . means the current folder and .. the upper or previous folder
[14:27] <k2> hey! there is no ppp.conf file
[14:27] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, since the beck folder is empty let's delete it. you are positive that the beck folder is empty correct? and nothing is mounted to that folder per mount
[14:27] <vicente_DICL> actually /media is for partitions mounted. of external devices such as CDROM
[14:28] <k2> guys my problem here>>>http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/why-doesnt-my-pppoe-connection-connect-to-the-internet
[14:28] <lmat> I think I got it...I removed any openjdk-6 stuff I could. I hope this didn't break anything ^_^
[14:28] <k2> cant explain here
[14:28] <designbybeck> yes ubu
[14:28] <gyre008> managed to get to Installing bootloader stage....now this is being installed like 10 minutes so far...and it doesnt seem to be finishing...this stuff is well broken...darn :)
[14:28] <adamk_> Amnuriak: The real problem was that Xorg was configured to load the pvr driver.
[14:28] <k2> ubu
[14:28] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, so you deleted the beck folder within /media/?
[14:29] <adamk_> Amnuriak: This caused the fglrx driver to get disabled and dropped Xorg back to the fbdev driver.
[14:29] <designbybeck> ubu ok It will not let me delete it as me
[14:29] <ubu> k2, yes
[14:29] <giacomo_> hi
[14:29] <designbybeck> ubu:  so sudo rm /media/beck ?
[14:29] <k2> can you get here http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/why-doesnt-my-pppoe-connection-connect-to-the-internet
[14:29] <k2> plz
[14:29] <adamk_> Amnuriak: I don't know what you did to configure Xorg to load the pvr driver, but you definitely did something :-)
[14:29] <ubu> designbybeck, as long as the folder beck contains nothing and you're positive, then yes, run sudo rm -rf /media/beck
[14:30] <k2> its something unusual
[14:30] <designbybeck> ok ubu that is gone
[14:30] <Amnuriak> adamk_: hmpf :-/ ok, well this way I know where to look the next time. Thanks a lot ! (is there any kind of karma here?)
[14:30] <ubu> designbybeck, be very CAREFUL with rm -rf!!!!
[14:30] <designbybeck> ubu:  warning noted
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !danger
[14:30] <mmonat> im all set nebber mind
[14:30] <k2> who is ubottu
[14:30] <designbybeck> warning noted cfhowlett
[14:30] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, pastebin me ls -la /media/ 1 more time
[14:30] <k2> is it a bot
[14:31] <ubu> k2, yes, a bot helper
[14:31] <designbybeck> ubu:  http://www.pasteall.org/41843
[14:31] <k2> guys ,PPPoE problem
[14:31] <xevil> anyone having problems getting the live DVD of 13.04 to run?  It get to the point of loading Xorg and freezes on my box...
[14:31] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, now plug in your external device
[14:31] <designbybeck> k2 quick bot to help users post FAQ and terms quickly
[14:31] <samg__> hi guys
[14:31] <samg__> Hi guys i wanted to know whats better for me... the only thing i do is here... listen to music (sync to my ipod) play grand theft auto san andreas and surf the web using google chrome... i installed ubuntu but i need your opinion to know if i should go back to windows 8 even tho gta works great
[14:31] <ubu> k2, i will try to help with your PPOE issue in  a moment
[14:32] <betrayd> he doesn't have a ppp.conf
[14:32] <designbybeck> ok ubu mount shows it is now connected
[14:32] <k2> ubu : try to comment in taht page itself
[14:32] <pero_p> Hi! i have problem in running 'cc1' with this error: "/4.4.0/cc1: error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". please help me! i'm tired of searching, nothing useful found. :(
[14:32] <ubu> samg__, windows 8 < ubuntu
[14:32] <mdh> samg__: if you like to use a lot of windows applications, windows might be better for you. don't forget you could run 7 instead of 8
[14:32] <ubu> k2, will do when I am done helping designbybeck
[14:32] <k2> o
[14:32] <k2> ok
[14:32] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, now what does ls -la /media/ report back?
[14:33] <pero_p> and i installed libmpfr-dev too,
[14:33] <k2> i will wait
[14:33] <pero_p> but not worked
[14:33] <designbybeck> http://www.pasteall.org/41843 ubu
[14:33] <designbybeck> oh wait
[14:33] <betrayd> pero_p: how did you install
[14:33] <k2> ubu: but plz comment here >>>http://askubuntu.com/questions/288504/why-doesnt-my-pppoe-connection-connect-to-the-internet
[14:33] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41844
[14:33] <k1l> k2: either state your problem in here or stick to askubuntu. but dont advertise your askubuntu question in here please.
[14:33] <samg__> @ubu @mdh i figured out that most of those apps i dont need mostly the issues im having and apps i want to come is unity player and i cannot install skype witch il try later but gta seems to be working well soooo should i just stay with ubuntu?
[14:33] <brian____> Anyone have a suggestion for a widely supported USB wifi adapter?  I have two that I can't get to work without using the mfg drivers which will break too easily for the application
[14:33] <ubu> designbybeck, lol
[14:33] <ubu> k2, i understand. i am currently still helping someone else
[14:33] <Quest> I need a biomatrix (finger / thumb impression) tool on which employees put thumbs and the time and their id no. name etc comes on screen and is also feeded for HR and their pay calculation purposes. My question is that what model / make should I buy that also supports Linux OS and can be operated by open source softwares. 2. are there any open source softwares that do it (for linux and windows) ?
[14:34] <pero_p> betrayd, through apt-get install libmpfr-dev
[14:34] <ubu> samg__, it's up to you obviously. if you still need windows try dual-booting or even a VM with windows in it
[14:34] <k2> k1l : nobody peeks at your question at askubuntu
[14:34] <mdh> samg__: stick with ubuntu if you like it, if not there's always windows or there are other linux distros too you can try
[14:34] <samg__> is there vmware for ubuntu @ubu
[14:34] <k2> it has to be spread
[14:34] <samg__> just incase
[14:34] <betrayd> pero_p: cc1? what seems to be the problem that you have to go this far
[14:35] <samg__> @mdh i love ubuntu itws just u know ahahhah
[14:35] <k2> samg__ : same here
[14:35] <pero_p> betrayd, actually this is cegcc's cc1 file(for windows CE compiler)
[14:35] <ubu> samg__, i am not sure, i've run virtualbox before but never vmware
[14:35] <mdh> samg__: i'm not sure but I think vmware makes a linux client
[14:35] <ubu> samg__, linux has a steep learning curve for sure.
[14:35] <pero_p> betrayd, cegcc runs cc1 as a part of compile process
[14:35] <samg__> @ubu soooo theres vbox for ubuntu?
[14:35] <ubu> samg__, yes
[14:35] <samg__> @mdh if there is then imma use it
[14:35] <pero_p> betrayd, and this error occurs every time i want to compile, and then i can't compile!
[14:35] <ubu> designbybeck, you still here?
[14:35] <samg__> @ubu does it run xp well/
[14:36] <designbybeck> yes ubu
[14:36] <samg__> @ubu or 8
[14:36] <ubu> samg__, depends how much RAM you have to dedicate to the guest OS really
[14:36] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, what's the output of the new ls -la /media/
[14:36] <betrayd> pero_p: in the old days i think installing needs an LDCONFIG did it get mentioned in the README
[14:37] <Riley-> hey guys im having issues with the u 13.04 flash player for some odd reason theres a solid bard at the top of videos if tried disabling acceleration and everything ive looked all over for this and theres nothing in the forums and on my suse 12.3 tumbleweed install flash was fine
[14:37] <samg__> @ubu i got like 4gbs of ram
[14:37] <samg__> @ubu imma just use it in case
[14:37] <k1l> samg__: there is vbox, vmware, qemu, kvm etc etc etc
[14:37] <Riley-> im on intel hd 3000 graphics
[14:37] <designbybeck> ubu:  http://www.pasteall.org/41845
[14:37] <pero_p> betrayd, no, the README file is nothing tell about installing, just where to copy extracted files(there was no install)
[14:37] <samg__> @kll imma use that :PPPPPPPP but guys any suggestion on how to connect to my remote pc
[14:38] <mdh> samg__: what is the remote pc running?
[14:38] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, and what's the output of the mount command?
[14:38] <samg__> @mdh ubuntu 13.04
[14:39] <ubu> samg__, what is your purpose on the remote machine?
[14:39] <samg__> @ubu accesing it form school
[14:39] <ubu> samg__, to just get a file? to control it fully? to admin it?
[14:39] <designbybeck> ubu: /dev/sdb1 on /media/beck/Backup type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[14:39] <ubu> samg__, to do what though
[14:40] <samg__> @ubu jsut to control
[14:40] <ubu> designbybeck, so you already have a folder within your partition of /dev/sdb1
[14:40] <designbybeck> no
[14:40] <designbybeck> it made that lost+found one though
[14:40] <designbybeck> i didn't make that ubu
[14:40] <ubu> designbybeck, what does sudo fdisk -l show for the filesytstem of sdb1?
[14:40] <samg__> @ubu just for controling from schooooool
[14:41] <betrayd> pero_p: i would check ls /usr/lib/libmpfr* or whereever they told you to install ti, make sure Configure is told where you put that 'missing' lib
[14:41] <Riley-> does anyone have any suggestions
[14:41] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41846
[14:41] <pero_p> the execution of 'locate libmpfr.so'
[14:41] <ubu> designbybeck, im confussed, you didn't have a /media/beck/ folder prior to mounting your external device correct?
[14:41] <pero_p> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmpfr.so
[14:41] <pero_p> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmpfr.so.4
[14:41] <pero_p> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmpfr.so.4.1.0
[14:42] <ubu> samg__, what type of machine will you be sitting at your school, the OS?
[14:42] <designbybeck> oh correct ubu this last time, we deleted beck totally, and when I plugged in the disk it made beck
[14:42] <rickdrink> hi, guys
[14:42] <samg__> @ubu windows 7 64 bit
[14:42] <pero_p> betrayd, you see, i have libmpfr.so but no libmpfr.so.1, so i evened tried symlink libmpfr.so.1 but not worked again!! :(
[14:43] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, it appears like the external drive is formatted in a form of linux filesystem, most likely ext something, either ext3 or ext4.
[14:43] <wilee-nilee> samg__, You can tab complete nicks @ does not notify them.
[14:43] <betrayd> pero_p: that first symlink, renamed andpointing to where (old though, not 1)
[14:43] <designbybeck> i did format it back to ext4 ubu
[14:43] <samg__> @wilee whaaa
[14:43] <samg__> wilee-nilee: ohhh
[14:43] <ubu> designbybeck, and you said the drive is blank?
[14:44] <samg__> ubu: so windows 7 64.bit
[14:44] <designbybeck> other than the lost+found that it made when I formated it to ext4
[14:44] <designbybeck> ubu:
[14:44] <ubu> designbybeck, can you please unmount it, then run gparted, completely erase it's partition table, create a new partition table, and format it as ext3?
[14:44] <pero_p> lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 16 Apr  4  2012 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmpfr.so -> libmpfr.so.4.1.0
[14:44] <ubu> designbybeck, i know you said that BUT it's very odd you formatted it BUT it still contains a folder called Backup
[14:44] <designbybeck> ok ubu
[14:44] <rickdrink> I got a fresh Ubuntu 13.04, in order to install ATI official drivers do I have to remove the current graphic drivers? Can I install the new drivers in a regular session or a terminal-only session is needed? Thanks
[14:44] <ubu> samg__, i use vncviewer
[14:44] <designbybeck> no Backup is the Label of the drive ubu
[14:44] <pero_p> betrayd, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmpfr.so -> libmpfr.so.4.1.0
[14:44] <djQuery> getting this error when trying to install nvidia drivers with jokey
[14:44] <djQuery> WARNING: /sys/module/nvidia_304/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind nvidia_304 driver
[14:44] <wilee-nilee> !ati | rickdrink
[14:45] <samg__> ubu: is there something like logmein but for linux with almost thte same fuctions
[14:45] <ubu> designbybeck, normally external drives are mounted to a folder named whatever the partitions/hdd label is, yours mounted to /media/beck
[14:45] <chop1n[afk]> samg__, check "ssh -X"
[14:45] <betrayd> pero_p: after renaming it i think you have to either run ldconfig OR make sure Configure is told where to find mpfr stuff (that dir)
[14:45] <adamk_> rickdrink: What video card do you have?
[14:45] <designbybeck> ubu:  but when It asked for a label I put in "Backup"
[14:45] <ubu> samg__, yes, i forget what it's called though.
[14:46] <samg__> ubu:  LOOOOKKKK PLEAAAAAAAAAAAASE I BEG U :p
[14:46] <jaynext> :)
[14:46] <ubu> designbybeck, i'm very confused why it's created a beck folder and also a Backup folder
[14:46] <designbybeck> I have no clue about that ubu
[14:46] <ubu> samg__, google is your friend, i think it's nx server
[14:47] <ubu> designbybeck, what does ls -la /media/beck/ return?
[14:47] <designbybeck> I am in gparted now, I named the lable "BACKUP" this time in all caps to see the difference
[14:47] <samg__> @UBU i dunno what to write lol :p
[14:47] <pero_p> betrayd, thanks, i'm gonna try ldconfig
[14:47] <ubu> designbybeck, getting some more java, be right back
[14:48] <designbybeck> ubu:  the output ....i'm formating the dirve again though: http://www.pasteall.org/41847
[14:49] <PeterME_> Hi, I've got a question about raring ringtail
[14:49] <designbybeck> what is it PeterME_
[14:49] <designbybeck> the question
[14:49] <Atom6> Hello
[14:49] <samg> @ubu sooo
[14:49] <PeterME_> While in Quantal I used gnome-panels to get the old Gnome look back
[14:49] <ubu> designbybeck, if you're formatting the drive then the output would be irrelevant
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Atom6, greetings
[14:50] <PeterME_> And now that I upgraded to Ringtail the entire theme has changed.
[14:50] <ubu> samg, nx server
[14:50] <samg> ubu:  i fucking love u
[14:50] <designbybeck> oh Not sure on that one PeterME_ I didn't use any rollback gnome stuff
[14:50] <PeterME_> Hmm
[14:50] <jaynext> lol :P
[14:51] <PeterME_> Looks really bad though..
[14:51] <ubu> designbybeck, which version of ubuntu is this again?
[14:51] <PeterME_> And where did appearences go from the system menu?
[14:51] <samg> ubu: isint it for ssh?
[14:51] <PeterME_> All that's left is background..
[14:51] <designbybeck> 12.10 ubu
[14:51] <ubu> samg, :)
[14:51] <designbybeck> I ahve the drive formated ast ext3 now ubu
[14:52] <ubu> samg, i believe nx server is basically a vnc viewer type software BUT wrapped within an encrypted protocal like ssh
[14:52] <designbybeck> ubu:  http://www.pasteall.org/41848
[14:52] <samg> @ubu isint it for ssh?
[14:52] <PeterME_> I'm sure if I could just find back to how to change my theme I should be able to fix it back to normal..
[14:53] <samg> klafsndfas' dasnfksd
[14:53] <samg> dsagdsg sd a
[14:53] <samg> d
[14:53] <samg> sd
[14:53] <samg> gasd
[14:53] <samg> g
[14:53] <FloodBot1> samg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <PeterME_> Aaah, there we go :) Found the Tweak Tool in the menu. Is this part of Raring or is it something that's been there for a while?
[14:54] <ubu> designbybeck, 12.10 must handle external drives differently then 12.04 because when I plug in an external drive, it mounts it within /media/ and then uses the LABEL as it's folder name. So I am very confused by the beck folder
[14:54] <rickdrink> bye
[14:55] <ubu> designbybeck, so, you should be able to write to it with drwxr-xr-x
[14:55] <designbybeck> maybe somehting with this drive ubu
[14:56] <ubu> designbybeck, can you write to it?
[14:56] <designbybeck> it says root owns it
[14:56] <designbybeck> now i can't do a touch test
[14:56] <designbybeck> ^ub
[14:56] <designbybeck> ^ubu
[14:57] <ubu> designbybeck, i believe stuff get's automounted as root, which i am not entirely sure why ubuntu does that.
[14:57] <designbybeck> so the whole system could us it maybe ubu?
[14:57] <designbybeck> i woudln't think that to be a good thing
[14:58] <ubu> designbybeck, in 12.04, it mounts as my user NOT root.
[14:58] <mustafa_> I have installed Ubuntu and kept my old home partition as it is, without reformating in and my system gets lots of errors and acts very slowly?
[14:58] <mustafa_> any ideas why?
[14:58] <ubu> designbybeck, it's possible, the entire system can't write to it though, only root
[14:58] <cfhowlett> mustafa_, old configuration files perhaps?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> mustafa_, what kind of errors
[14:59] <mustafa_> cfhowlett: So I should just delete old confs?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> mustafa_, not yet.  what kind of errors
[14:59] <mustafa_> cfhowlett: lots of system errors, and it's veryyyyyyyyyyy slow as if i was one a pentium 4 pc while i am on i5. and i got system error that there was a problem with /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon
[15:00] <mustafa_> cfhowlett: you could say when i try to do anything i get an error
[15:00] <cfhowlett> mustafa_, hmm.  that's a system error, not a config.  ask in the channel.  starbucks is closing so bye bye wifi
[15:00] <mustafa_> cfhowlett: other than the extremly slow in opeining and closing nautlius.
[15:01] <designbybeck> ubu:  I plugged in a USB jump drive no prob, it let me copy files to it as expected
[15:01] <cfhowlett> mustafa_, unit?
[15:01] <cfhowlett> mustafa on unity?
[15:01] <mustafa_> cfhowlett: yes
[15:01] <ubu> designbybeck, hmmm
[15:01] <cfhowlett> mustafa_, select the other desktop environment and see.
[15:01] <ubu> designbybeck, what does the mount command show for the jump drive
[15:01] <designbybeck> i copied files over
[15:01] <mustafa_> i don't have other desktop environment
[15:02] <designbybeck> ubu: this drive is called Ubuntu: http://www.pasteall.org/41849
[15:04] <ubu> designbybeck, yeap, that's what my fat32 drive mounts as also, ext3 external drives must get mounted as root and with only rwx for owner root
[15:04] <ubu> designbybeck,
[15:04] <designbybeck> I had it as NTFS and EXT4 as well though ubu
[15:04] <ubu> designbybeck, right, this is very odd to say the least
[15:05] <designbybeck> lol! Well thank you very much for your help. I've learned a few things along the way
[15:05] <ubu> designbybeck, can you chown the /media/beck/BACKUP directory?
[15:05] <designbybeck> I'll wait until I can get my other harddrive I've used before. That just means I can't backup until later today or tomorrow
[15:05] <ubu> designbybeck, sudo chown $USER:$USER /media/beck/BACKUP
[15:05] <yna1111> Hi, can i also ask an Apachenrelated questiom here?
[15:06] <PeterME_> Anyone knows how to set a wallpaper to span multiple screens?
[15:06] <ubu> yna1111, you can try, not sure we can help
[15:06] <designbybeck> looks like that did chown to my username ubu
[15:07] <yna1111> I wanted to ask if someone knows a really good tutorial / howto for the redirection of virtual hosts with ssl
[15:07] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41850
[15:07] <yna1111> I getthe general concept but always faiö in details
[15:08] <ubu> designbybeck, ok, now you should be able to write  to it. try to unmount it and remount and see if the owner is retained
[15:08] <jeanbaptiste> I moved some files from my other hdd and it moved them at about 90mbps, now im moving them back and it started moving at 3mbps and gives this error: Error splicing file: Input/output error. I installed pcmanfm and it still gives this error on some files im moving but atleast its moving them faster now
[15:08] <yna1111> Faiö = fail
[15:08] <yna1111> Does anyone have a favourite beginners page maybe?
[15:08] <designbybeck> doh!...we were so close ubu
[15:09] <designbybeck> ubu:  still shows read-only
[15:09] <ubu> designbybeck, you were able to chown it BUT it's still only read only?
[15:09] <ubu> designbybeck, what does mount return?
[15:10] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41851
[15:11] <ubu> designbybeck, it shows (rw) so clearly there is something wrong BUT i have no idea what
[15:11] <ubu> designbybeck, what is the error, are you trying to write to it within nautilus?
[15:11] <Quest>  are there open-source softwares that control biomatric and rfid  cards and manage HR functions like time in, time out that calculates pays with some other payroll functions and reporting?
[15:12] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=50380
[15:13] <asker1304> how do we install NVIDIA DRIVERS to UBUNTU 13.04   ?
[15:14] <ubu> designbybeck, hmmm, it's beyond me why it's mounting as read only. can you unmount it, then plug it back in and look at the end info from entering the command dmesg
[15:14] <Chaos_Zero> Hello, after re installing with 12.10 I get "internal system errors" once in a while. Besides the error box there have not been any consistant problems. Is thie anything to worry about or just ignore it?
[15:14] <ubu> designbybeck, also, apparently in 12.10 they did make it so all external drives mount in /media/username/mountpoint versus just /media/mountpoint like in 12.04
[15:15] <designbybeck> ubu: http://www.pasteall.org/41852
[15:15] <asker1304> how do we install NVIDIA DRIVERS to UBUNTU 13.04   ?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !jockey
[15:16] <carcinogen75> Hello. can you answer? It's ease to get GEO location by IP. But can i get all IPs by GEO location? Is there any service online to do this?
[15:16] <ubu> designbybeck, ah, i see error writing superblock messages. also, lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
[15:16] <designbybeck> HMMMMMmmmmmm
[15:16] <asker1304> Anybody help me how do we install NVIDIA DRIVERS to UBUNTU 13.04   ?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> asker1304, alt=F2 , type additional drivers
[15:17] <BluesKaj> correction alt+f2
[15:17] <ubu> designbybeck, could be an indication that the drive is not healthy. when a drive is unhealthy the system will make it read only so that it doesn't cause further destruction of the disk
[15:17] <asker1304> it does not work!
[15:17] <asker1304> how do we install NVIDIA DRIVERS to UBUNTU 13.04   ?
[15:17] <ubu> designbybeck, i wouldn't use it as a backup drive seeing that superblock write error
[15:17] <asker1304> how do we install NVIDIA DRIVERS to UBUNTU 13.04   ? UBUNTU DOES NOT RESTART
[15:18] <BluesKaj> asker1304, alt+F2 , type additional drivers
[15:18] <ubu> designbybeck, i would run some tests on the drive and even then, not sure i would trust it. how old is the drive
[15:18] <designbybeck> ok ubu, Again thank you for all your help. I'll wait until I get my other drive
[15:18] <designbybeck> ubu:  have any apps or tasks for testing the drive?
[15:18] <ubu> designbybeck, no problem, i enjoy helping others
[15:18] <asker1304> how do we install NVIDIA DRIVERS to UBUNTU 13.04   ?additional drivers i did but does not restart
[15:18] <designbybeck> I don't think it is to old at all, 3-5yr, had only been uses a few times
[15:19] <philinux> asker1304:  what graphics card you using
[15:19] <BluesKaj> !repeat | asker1304
[15:19] <asker1304> NVIDIA GEFORCE 220
[15:19] <ubu> designbybeck, i think gnome-disk-utility can test drives
[15:20] <CorruptEye> :)
[15:20] <philinux> asker1304:  when in additional drivers does it offer to install a recommended driver
[15:20] <designbybeck> Thank you ubu
[15:20] <ubu> designbybeck, not sure if gnome-disk-utility is available in 12.10, check the repo's
[15:20] <asker1304> i installed recomended driver
[15:20] <asker1304> it does not work
[15:21] <philinux> asker1304:  ok so your problem is that machine refuses to restart to activate the driver?
[15:21] <asker1304> yes
[15:21] <ubu> designbybeck, your best bet is to use the manufacturer's test tools, the crappy thing is that they mostly run in windows. some can be run from a live cd i think. what is the drive manufacturer?
[15:22] <asker1304> recomended driver opens a blank page nothing in it
[15:22] <philinux> asker1304:  ok so you mean u restart the machine and you get a black screen?
[15:22] <genii-around> asker1304: You may not have the "restricted" repository enabled
[15:23] <asker1304> Whu ubuntu 12.04 lts can use NVIDIA BUT NOT 13.04 ?
[15:23] <asker1304> no black screen normal purple- brown screen nothing in it
[15:23] <adamk_> asker1304: Stop yelling. All you're going to do is annoy people  and keep them from wanting to help you.
[15:24] <asker1304> adam stop bulshitting if u dont know the answer shut up
[15:24] <philinux> asker1304:  is that purple screen after you login normally or before u login
[15:25] <asker1304> yes
[15:25] <asker1304> but nothing in it
[15:25]  * wilee-nilee puts asker1304 into ignore lol
[15:25] <BluesKaj> asker1304, open the console  , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:25] <philinux> BluesKaj: it sounds like it's activated but unity borked on login
[15:26] <philinux> asker1304:  was 13.04 running ok before nvidia installed
[15:26] <asker1304> how do i open console if my screen is blank?
[15:26] <ubu> gotta run guys, peace out
[15:26] <BluesKaj> philinux, well ,I'm close to the ignore point now
[15:26] <asker1304> 12.04 worked fine
[15:27] <philinux> asker1304:  ctrl+alt+t  didj you upgrade
[15:27] <BluesKaj> asker1304, then drop to a tty , ctrl+alt +f1 ,, and run the command
[15:28] <asker1304> no i formatted back to windows 8
[15:28] <mahlukat> ersyjhe5ojy
[15:28] <mahlukat> eğklg
[15:28] <mahlukat> selam millet
[15:28] <philinux> asker1304: so 13.04 is a clean install. did it run ok once first installed
[15:29] <asker1304> btw ubuntu boots in 2 minutes w8 30 secs
[15:29] <philinux> asker1304: ? ^^^
[15:29] <asker1304> ok i reinstall and back again maybe 30 mins...
[15:30] <philinux> asker1304: dont install nvidia until it running ok
[15:30] <trom66> hi i need driver for intel g33/g31 for ubuntu 12.10
[15:30] <asker1304> i bet sudo apt-get install nvidia-current wont work but i will try
[15:30] <mahlukat> asker
 so you guys know ubuntu 13.04 cant run NVIDIA ALREADY...
[15:32] <philinux> asker1304: running nvidia here
[15:32] <k1l> asker1304: im running a 13.04 with nvidia.
[15:32] <nafac> 13.04 IS NOT READY
[15:32] <Walex> trom66: that's unlikely, it is quite old, so probably already supported.
[15:32] <nafac> told you before
[15:33] <nafac> Haters gonna hate
[15:33] <asker1304> yes but it gives noise of fan when i dont install driver
[15:33] <nafac> I speech truth
[15:33] <philinux> nafac: you mean speak
[15:33] <k1l> nafac: stop that now
[15:34] <nafac> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring
[15:34] <nafac> see?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> asker1304, I have nvidia working on 13.04 , but then I don't run unity/gnome either
[15:35] <opuscontinuum> how do I see what network resources I have access too?
[15:36] <asker1304> why is that so hard to put nvidia driver works 12.04 lts very good but not 13.04 why?
[15:36] <trom66> i can help for install
[15:36] <tgm4883> I've got nvidia proprietary drivers working on 13.04 using unity
[15:36] <k1l> asker1304: depends on your hardware.
[15:36] <k1l> asker1304: did you try !nomodeset
[15:37] <asker1304> no
[15:37] <tgm4883> using 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3] (rev a2)
[15:37] <jackbrown> After a crash my file system is in read only mode and it doesn't allow me to work with my OS. How can i fix it ? (change file system from read only to read write ?)
[15:37] <user82> well bugs like "fglrx breaks the complete installation" are also present...or did anyone get fglrx working with a hd4850?
[15:37] <dhs227> Error 'proc/self/mem' : cannot skip to specified offset. But it suppose to work on earlier, the command is "dd if=/proc/self/mem of=linux-gate.dso bs=4096 skip=1048574 count=1"
[15:37] <philinux> asker1304: i had trouble with some of the nvidia driver options but nvidia-current runs fine
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> jackbrown: I suggest you boot to liveCD / USB and run an fsck on the partition
[15:38] <asker1304> ty for all i will reinstall ubuntu ty for helping it wont work but ty anyways...
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !who | asker1304
[15:39] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: mhh
[15:40] <DJRWolf> someone I know keeps going on about how Canonical sells local search information, anyone have anything good I can counter with?
[15:40] <jerky> hi everyone. I have a question: how can I add a "," after the first character of every line in vim?   So, for example, the lines are as followed: "1 Blah" I want it to be "1,Blah" at for every line.
[15:40] <tgm4883> DJRWolf, I'm unsure if that is completely accurate or not
[15:40] <adamk_> Any idea why, after upgrading via do-release-upgrade, and rebooting, I still get told that there's a new release available and to run do-release-upgrade?
[15:41] <wilee-nilee> DJRWolf, A look of derision and a chuckle.
[15:41] <she_dyed> jerky i think q for record steps (like a macro)
[15:42] <tgm4883> jerky, you can use a sed replace along with a regex for that
[15:42] <jerky> tgm4883: do you know a sed command that will do that?
[15:42] <DJRWolf> the only thing I recall seeing was "anonymous usage stats"
[15:42] <tgm4883> jerky, sec, testing
[15:42] <Rodrigo__> What is this channel for?
[15:43] <DJRWolf> Rodrigo__ Ubuntu
[15:43] <tgm4883> DJRWolf, specifically, they are talking about the shopping lens probably
[15:43] <jerky> tgm4883: cheers!
[15:43] <DJRWolf> tgm4883 I don't recall ever using that, is that part of Ubuntu One?
[15:44] <Rodrigo__> Can I use this channel to ask general questions about Ubuntu?
[15:44] <tgm4883> DJRWolf, no, it's a default lens in unity in 12.10
[15:44] <DJRWolf> Rodrigo__ yes
[15:44] <DJRWolf> tgm4883 ahh, I go LTS, so still roll'en with 12.04
[15:45] <Rodrigo__> Folders named paxHeader have been created at random locations, is that normal?
[15:46] <TuomasT> Can I have snd_* alsa modules reloaded (while pulseaudio is off temporarily) after suspend to ram?
[15:46] <TuomasT> My sound card doesn't work until that is done after suspend to ram
[15:46] <tgm4883> jerky, I'm slightly confused by the dataset. You mention the line is '1 blah' and you want it to be '1,blah', so are you wanting to insert the ',' character, or replace that space with ','?
[15:47] <Walex> TuomasT: yes.
[15:48] <jerky> tgm4883: I want to replace the space with a "," if possible
[15:48] <jerky> sorry about that.
[15:48] <TuomasT> Walex: Does Ubuntu do anything similar by default?
[15:48] <johnjohn101> join #perl
[15:48] <tgm4883> jerky, ah ok. Just the first one or every space in the line?
[15:49] <jerky> just the first space after the first character of every line.
[15:49] <Walex> TuomasT: yes, indeed it is a bit surprising you have that issue, perhaps your specific sound module is not listed in the resume script
[15:49] <jerky> Appreciate it
[15:50] <yatriga> guys my virtualbox is not able to start due to an error please help
[15:50] <Walex> TuomasT: however perhaps this is because there is more than one "power management" script collection
[15:50] <TuomasT> Walex: It is somewhat uncommon card. (snd_ice_1712). Where is the configure fil located?
[15:50] <tgm4883> jerky, ok, this will replace the first space in every line with a ,   sed 's/ /,/'
[15:50] <r0sh> guys, i'm installing wget from source. i made a directory at /tmp/build, extracted *.tar.gz in it. cd to wget* directory. made configure executable, and tried ./configure .. says permission denied. did sudo ./configure, got same results. what could be the problem?
[15:50] <TuomasT> no, snd_ice1712 / m-audio 2496
[15:50] <r0sh> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 if that matters
[15:50] <Walex> TuomasT: it depends on which power management suspend/resume set of scripts you are using.
[15:51] <yatriga> it says unable to create a object
[15:51] <Walex> TuomasT: try to check in your logs if there are are any hints on that.
[15:51] <TuomasT> Walex: Well, nothing at /etc/pm/config.d/
[15:52] <Walex> TuomasT: that is for local modifications. Have a look at 'dpkg -L pm-utils | sort | less'
[15:53] <jerky> tgm4883: thanks for that!
[15:53] <Walex> TuomasT: you probably want to put in '/etc/pm/config.d/' something that adds to the rules in '//usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/'
[15:53] <tgm4883> jerky, yw
[15:53] <Guest80097> .
[15:54] <rosh> where i can ./configure at $HOME
[15:54] <brian____> Ok, I am missing something, or a lot of somethings.  I am trying to install a netgear usb wifi adapter that uses the rtl8192cu module.  I gave up on the opensource ones included and downloaded and compiled the realtek ones.  That worked, I added the module to load into /etc/modules and now I have a 8192cu loaded, however, my usb device has no idea that is the module it should be using.  What am I missing?
[15:55] <abradley> I'm running ubuntu virtually and I need to set a static ip but in interfaces there is no eth0 mentioned, only "auth lo iface lo inet loopback". How would I go about setting a static ip when I don't have any ethx referenced?
[15:55] <abradley> ^ wired
[15:55] <samijam> why does ubuntu 12.04 say it is 693 MB when I am downloading and then 727 MB after it is finished?
[15:55] <adamk> r0sh: Perhaps /tmp is mounted noexec (assuming /tmp is a separate filesystem).  Perhaps the configure script is not set to be executable.
[15:56] <TuomasT> Walex: According to PM logs reloadingof snd_ice1712 fails because pulseaudio is running
[15:56] <BluesKaj> abradley, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[15:56] <TuomasT> So I need to have pulseaudio stopped before and resumed after suspend to ram
[15:56] <rosh> adac, It's set executable. and i will look into the mount options. thanks. :)
[15:57] <adac> rosh, I'm probably the wrong guy you pinged ;)=
[15:57] <Walex> TuomasT: I think stopping and resuming PulseAudio on resume is a standard thing, surprised it did not quite happen yet. Perhaps that are PulseAudio suspend/resukme config files
[15:58] <samijam> hmm, actually it says 727MB in the file manager, but 694 MB from ls
[15:59] <TuomasT> Walex: Anyway, thanks for help!
[15:59] <wdonkey> when i install a .deb from a download in the terminal, does the .deb file has to be anywhere specific, or do i need to specifiy its location when typing the dpkg cmd line ??
[16:00] <samijam> brasero also sees it as 727 MB, but says there is 10 MB space free for a 700 MB disc
[16:00] <samijam> I just want numbers to add up!
[16:00] <WhiteDawn> samijam:  ls reads in bytes, file manager reads in bits
[16:00] <samijam> ok, but when I start the burn it says 693 MB, so Brasero is not consistent
[16:00] <tgm4883> wdonkey, you can specify it's location
[16:00] <SuperLag> Anyone else find that 13.04 does not remember your default browser choice, if you set it to something other than Firefox?
[16:00] <lukariell> salve
[16:01] <tgm4883> wdonkey, or just do it from the same directory
[16:01] <lukariell> !list
[16:01] <SuperLag> I'm using the Xubuntu version.
[16:01] <genii-around> !it | lukariell
[16:01] <wdonkey> tgm4883: how do you get to that directory again ?
[16:01] <WhiteDawn> samijam: sorry, i got that wrong, ls reads a gb as 1024 mb, while filemanager reads it as 1000. As for basero, its prob just overhead for the cd filesystem
[16:01] <tgm4883> wdonkey, 'cd /path/to/dir'
[16:01] <wdonkey> thanks sir
[16:01] <wdonkey> or mam
[16:01] <tgm4883> wdonkey, or you can double click on the deb file
[16:02] <samijam> WhiteDawn, yeah I figured ls would be more accurate.  anyway, it looks like I might end up with a successful burn... i hope
[16:02] <wdonkey> tgm4883: tryed but after the install it says it failed to load module, to reinstall the app
[16:03] <wdonkey> thanks tgm4883
[16:03] <abradley> BluesKaj, thanks for the input. In that page the examples reference a certain nic such as eth0. My network/interfaces do not. They only reference "auth lo iface lo inet loopback". How would I go about setting a static ip when I don't have any ethx referenced?
[16:04] <tgm4883> abradley, are you using ubuntu server or desktop?
[16:05] <rd1381> how can i change my locale setting in ubuntu(gnomke)
[16:05] <abradley> tgm4883, I'm running ubuntu desktop in a vm (esxi)
[16:05] <tgm4883> abradley, then you need to set static IPs via network manager
[16:05] <BluesKaj> oj abradley seems that 's avirtual thing ,of which i have little knowledge
[16:05] <abradley> cool, I'll look into network manager
[16:05] <abradley> thanks for both of your input
[16:06] <stupeted> hi i just wanted to connect to VPN and i set up all and now a screen show up whit "Enter password to unlock your login keyring"
[16:06] <stupeted> what shoud i do?
[16:06] <usr13> WhiteDawn: I don't think it's a difference between bits and bytes.  It is because one is showing actual file size and the other is showing how much disk space is devoted to the storage of the file.
[16:07] <johnjohn101> what is the difference between fakeroot and sudo?
[16:07] <Chaos_Zero> Hello, after re installing with 12.10 I get "internal system errors" once in a while. Besides the error box there have not been any consistant problems. Is thie anything to worry about or just ignore it?
[16:08] <usr13> WhiteDawn: samijam I'm talking about the difference in ls and what the file manager reports, and it's like the difference you see between ls and du (du will show smaller size too, for same reason).
[16:09] <tri> as.wb.wb
[16:09] <Qwell> Hi!  I just learned that you could alt-tab to an application with multiple windows, pause, and then continue to tab to switch through those windows.  Is it possible to just always group by windows, and not have to do the pause?
[16:09] <Walex> rd1381: there are global locale settings and per-user ones. The global ones are in environment variables. Alos look at '/etc/default/locale'
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> Chaos_Zero, That is apport, look at what the errors are it will report on even 3rd party errors which are not reportable. There is also a ignore at times shown. Personally I remove apport at times.
[16:10] <usr13> WhiteDawn: samijam We usually see bytes designated as B and bits b, but mostly we measure B (bytes) and the difference is 8x.
[16:10] <rosh> adamk, It's set executable. and i will look into the mount options. thanks. :)
[16:11] <Walex> johnjohn101: they do completely different things. 'sudo' gives real privileges, 'fakeroot' does not.
[16:11] <rosh> adac, hey! there are so many people here :D
[16:11] <usr13> Qwell: Yea, same as MS Windows.  Been that way for a long time.  You've learned to use a very handy tool.
[16:11] <Qwell> usr13: You misunderstand.
[16:12] <rd1381> do i nedd to reboot for changes to this file to take effect?
[16:12] <usr13> Oh sorry
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Chaos_Zero: I'd run memtest86+ from grub
[16:12] <usr13> Qwell: I use Alt-Tab to switch windows.
[16:12] <Qwell> usr13: The pause part, I learned.  I'm an adult male.  I learned alt-tab many many porn windows ago. :p
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Qwell: SuperL + W will show all windows
[16:12] <Qwell> ActionParsnip: I don't mouse.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Qwell: its not a mouse thing....
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Qwell: both are on the keyboard
[16:13] <Qwell> ActionParsnip: How do I select a window in there?
[16:13] <rd1381> Walex:do i nedd to reboot for changes to this file to take effect?
[16:13] <Qwell> oh, arrow keys...  yeah, that's no good either.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Qwell: do cursors work?
[16:13] <usr13> Qwell: Ok, I'm lost.
[16:14] <usr13> Qwell: Oh right and left arrow.  Yes, very handy.  If you go to tty6, (Ctrl-Alt-F6), you come back with Alt-RightArrow.
[16:14] <johnjohn101> tx Walex
[16:14] <usr13> Qwell: Or to tty5 with Alt-LeftArrow
[16:15] <Qwell> Let me rephrase my question.  How do I tell Unity to show windows in alt-tab, rather than applications?
[16:15] <usr13> Qwell: And you can switch irssi windows that way too.
[16:15] <coolot> hello guys
[16:15] <Walex> rd1381: no, but you need to log-in again.
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> Chaos_Zero, Here is some more info if you like. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[16:15] <coolot> newbie here
[16:15] <rd1381> thanks
[16:16] <Walex> rd1381: but you should reboot if you have some daemons that depend on locale settings.
[16:16] <rd1381> do anybody else gets freezes on ubuntu (kubuntu) 13.04 fresh insytall?
[16:16] <Walex> rd1381: that's not a good question ("anybody else")
[16:17] <coolot> how can i transfer my mp3 files located in different sub directories  with out accessing the sub folders one by one to a single folder?
[16:17] <rd1381> because i get them randomly and i tried everything and nothing works
[16:17] <usr13> Qwell: Aren't  windows and applications interchangable terms, (unless of course, if you have more than one instance of the same application open).
[16:17] <usr13> ?
[16:17] <Qwell> usr13: No.
[16:17] <usr13> Qwell: That's just the way it works.
[16:17] <Rodrigo__> Folders named paxHeader have been created at random locations, is that normal?
[16:17] <Walex> rd1381: that's a statement, and it brings better information...
[16:18] <Walex> rd1381: are these temporary freezes or must-restart freezes?
[16:18] <coolot> how can i transfer my mp3 files located in different sub directories with out accessing the sub folders one by one to a single folder? using the command line
[16:18] <Walex> rd1381: because there are *many* possible causes of both temporary and must-reboot freezes.
[16:18] <rd1381> complete freezes that not even harddrive works
[16:18] <banaan> hi
[16:18] <Fluxx> Hi all, I managed to change the resolution of my video using xrandr but when I reboot it is all messed up again. How can I fix it ? using ubuntu 12.04
[16:18] <Walex> coolot: for replies within 1 minute please supply your Uranium-level account number...
[16:18] <usr13> Qwell: But you can change it if you want.
[16:19] <adamk_> Fluxx, Create an xorg.conf file to specify your preferredmode, or add the xrandr command to your desktop environment session.
[16:19] <usr13> Qwell: Disable the keyboard shortcuts for Unity's switcher by unchecking CompizConfig Settings Manager ? Desktop ? Ubuntu Unity Plugin ? Switcher ? Key to start the switcher ? Enabled and Key to start the switcher in reverse ? Enable
[16:19] <banaan> can anyone help me fixing this problem with Tomcat 7 : java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina
[16:19] <usr13> Qwell: Disable the keyboard shortcuts for Unity's switcher by unchecking CompizConfig Settings Manager > Desktop > Ubuntu Unity Plugin > Switcher > Key to start the switcher > Enabled and Key to start the switcher in reverse > Enable
[16:20] <banaan> trying to fix it for an hour now lol :S
[16:20] <Fluxx> adamk_: I am a sort of noob to linux, can I add the command in the startup apps?
[16:20] <rogier> Can anyone help me connect my desktop to my laptop using cat5 so i can use internet (the laptop is connected trough wifi.
[16:20] <coolot> Walex : i am not sure what's Uranium-level account number...
[16:20] <usr13> Qwell: Enable the Static Application Switcher by checking CompizConfig Settings Manager > Window Management > Static Application Switcher > Enable Static Application Switcher
[16:20] <Walex> coolot: or put another way please wait at least 5-10 minutes before repeating a question...
[16:21] <poss> Hi guys, I seem to have stumbled into water a little deeper than I'm comfortable with :)
[16:21] <coolot> Walex : understood thanks
[16:21] <Walex> coolot: and BTW you can "flatten" a directory hierarchy in several ways, many of which a bit tricky.
[16:22] <adamk_> Fluxx, I believe so, yes.
[16:22] <Walex> coolot: for example by using 'find' to collect the names of the files, and then just 'mv'ing or 'ln'ing them to a single directory.
[16:22] <usr13> Qwell: There is a GUI for it,  ccsm
[16:23] <banaan> can anyone help me with setting up tomcat 7 iḿ getting weird errors
[16:23] <poss> So I encountered a bug in TF2, and thought maybe updating my graphics drivers might help.  I dropped out of X, stopped lightdm, then updated from 304.30 to 313.30
[16:23] <pero_p> hi
[16:23] <pero_p> bash script to find incomplete downloaded images ??
[16:23] <usr13> rogier: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[16:24] <rd1381> Walex	: any suggestion about how to trace it?
[16:24] <coolot> Walex : i tried to use the find command but it searches all of my mp3 files. i just want to move all of my AC DC mp3s in a single folder.
[16:24] <poss> After a restart I just got left with a blinking cursor. So I booted into recovery mode and ascertained that my ssd had been set to read only
[16:25] <banaan> can anyone help me with setting up tomcat 7 iḿ getting weird errors  iḿ getting desperate now :(
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> banaan: tried in the tomcat channel?
[16:25] <banaan> oh sorry :)
[16:25] <usr13> poss: Was the blinking cursor preceeded by login:  ?
[16:25] <poss> So I restarted fro a previous kernel, and suddenly the drive errors went away.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> pero_p: i cant see that really being possible, the corruption in an image could be part of the image.
[16:26] <lenim> ActionParsnip: you stopped with catnip
[16:26] <Walex> rd1381: if it is temporary, it could be caching of writes or disk read errors. if it is permanent, most likely some hardware issue, probably power/heat or GPU, else some kernel bug
[16:26] <poss> But now I am stuck in a previous kernel without an NVIDIA driver
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> lenim: huh?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> poss: tried:   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:26] <Walex> coolot: you can do that with 'find'. Are you trying to move files _by tag_ instead of name?
[16:26] <usr13> poss: If you keep it all in one post, it will be easier to understand your issue?
[16:26] <lenim> ActionParsnip: you said tomcat and catnip
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> lenim: ahhh, nice hahahaah
[16:27] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, yeah, thanks :). i just have a script that download images with wget, some of downloaded ones are corrupt, i like to see a way to find out them and try to redownload
[16:27] <poss> nvidia-settings says I have no nvidia driver, even though nvidia-xconfig, and the conf file both say my driver is set to nvidia.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> pero_p: you could redownload to tmp and calculate md5sum on both and compare
[16:27] <Fluxx> adamk_: thanks will try to reboot now and check if it worked
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> poss: then check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:28] <rd1381> Walex: i tested wit memtest and windows doesnt freez so i dont think its a hardware problem .i have hybrid graphic card on my notebook (asus n53sv) but the change of driver for nvidia and removing it didnt help and i use bumblebee so its not nvidia fault eaithr
[16:28] <lenim> Poss did you reboot
[16:28] <poss> So, my problem is two fold:  I can not activate the graphics driver, and even if I do, when I restart it'll just default to the more recent kernel
[16:28] <MKCoin> Huh. I'm having an issue where I can't rename any files via Nautilus. Any idea why that would be? It's greyed out in the context menu, as are Cut, Copy, etc...
[16:28] <poss> yes, an uninterupted boot cycle still results in a blinking cursor
[16:28] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, :D yeah, but the connection speed is really slow!! 15KBps download LoL
[16:29] <genii-around> MKCoin: Quite possibly you're trying to operate on files which are not in /home/you-username/   directory.
[16:29] <MKCoin> It is those files I cannot alter; I can alter files elsewhere
[16:29] <lenim> poss: boot ti grub . Press F6. Select NOMODESET.
[16:30] <Walex> rd1381: that MS-Windows does not freeze means little. There is relatively error checking in MS-Windows and sometimes it just skips over errors... And 'memtest' only tests memory.
[16:30] <Walex> rd1381: to find out what is happening, check the logs around the time of the freeze...
[16:30] <Walex> rd1381: try to notice whether you are doing something specific at that time.
[16:30] <poss> lenim, I will try that, give me a sec to reconnect here on my phone
[16:30] <coolot> Walex : i'll do some more studying using find.... i am not sure with moving files _by tag_.....i am very new with linux.... so forgive me if i am asking a lot of questions
[16:31] <rd1381> Walex	: i know but that all the hardware checking that i can do and because it happens randomly i dont think i can check hardware to see the error
[16:31] <Walex> rd1381: keep 'vmstat 1' running in a terminal and check whether when it freezes a lot of memory is in use.
[16:31] <genii-around> MKCoin: The next possibility is that the files you are trying to operate on are locked because another application or process is exclusively using them
[16:31] <Walex> coolot: MP3 files have embedded tags with artist name, album name, etc.
[16:31] <lenim> poss: if F6 dont work let me know.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> pero_p: thats reall only one way to know, unless the server side holds MD5sums of the good images (or if you can SSH over then calculate MD5 there)
[16:32] <poss> lenim: since this issue started, if I don't make my grub selections within ten seconds, the keyboard stops working.  So this may take a minute
[16:32] <Walex> coolot: BTW most graphical file managers allow you to sort/filter tagged MP3 files or untagged files by tag or name.
[16:33] <Qwell> usr13: ccsm > Unity > Switcher > Key to flip through windows in the Switcher.
[16:33] <rd1381> Walex	: i check all the logs in /var/log folder but nothing seems to be happening at the time of freez
[16:34] <JoMs> Hello, I am currently following this guide (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu/HOW-TO_3) for installing xbmc on ubuntu 13.04 minimal, but I have encountered a problem when installing the nvidia-drivers. It seems there's no package called nvidia-glx-xxx, anyone have a tip regarding how I should get the correct drivers in an easy way?
[16:34] <coolot> Walex : i am practicing to move and manipulate files using command lines..... using graphical file manager is my last resort.....
[16:35] <anonymous> HI
[16:35] <Guest24591> )))
[16:36] <usr13> Qwell: Yea, you should be able to set it to what ever you want.
[16:36] <lenim> poss: if Fn6 does not work. Press E for edit. Scroll to word QUIET. Type in NOMODESET after word QUIET. Press Ctrl-x to boot
[16:36] <MKCoin> Hm it looks like the files were moved into a read only "group", is it safe to change them to full access? I'm still listed as owner.
[16:36] <nadir__> hi
[16:36] <Poss-mob> F6 does nothing at grub
[16:37] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, thanks man, ;)
[16:37] <lenim> Poss-mob: look at post above.
[16:37] <brian____> If I take a usb wifi adapter plug it into my 12.10 laptop and my dmesg runs through all of the setting up that device, and on 12.04 when I plug it in it only shows me the device is attached, does that mean it doesnt know what module to use?
[16:37] <rogier> How do reboot the computer when it's stuck. The mouse and keybord don respond.
[16:38] <rogier> ?
[16:38] <usr13> JoMs: sudo apt-get install xbmc
[16:38] <Poss-mob> Ok, e works, but i took too long to write nomodeset and the keyboard stopped working. Ill keep rebooting and trying till i type it all
[16:38] <lenim> Poss-mob: read post above. Gotta go.
[16:38] <nadir__> test
[16:38] <nadir__> any body ?
[16:38] <JoMs> usr13: installing xbmc is all fine, my issue is about installing the correct nvidia-drivers and avoid doing it manually
[16:41] <usr13> !info ubuntu-drivers-common | JoMs
[16:41] <usr13> JoMs: Actually, just go to nvidia.com
[16:41] <JoMs> usr13: thanks, I'll check that out
[16:42] <usr13> JoMs: lspci |grep -i vga
[16:42] <JoMs> well, nvidia.com makes it manually, and then I have to blame myself and nobody else when it screws up :/
[16:42] <Walex> coolot: something like: find "$FROM" -iname '*acdc*.mp3' -print0 | xargs -r0 -I^ ln ^ "$TO"
[16:42] <usr13> JoMs: What is your video card.
[16:42] <JoMs> usr13: GT281 ION
[16:43] <Poss-mob> So i added nomode set and hit f10 to boot, now im back to a blinking cursor
[16:43] <usr13> JoMs: 32bit? or 64?
[16:43] <JoMs> usr13: 64
[16:44] <usr13> Desktop?
[16:44] <JoMs> usr13: ubuntu minimal with no desktop environment installed
[16:44] <JoMs> usr13: but on the generic kernel
[16:44] <usr13> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-313.30-driver.html
[16:45] <JoMs> thanks
[16:45] <usr13> NP
[16:46] <usr13> Poss-mob: Is the blinking cursor preceeded by "login:"?
[16:47] <Poss-mob> Lol, no. I can login to f1-6, but f7 is just a cursor.
[16:47] <usr13> Poss-mob: Ok then, login
[16:48] <usr13> Poss-mob: and then sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (or you can rename it, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak)
[16:48] <cousteau> !aptitude
[16:48] <cousteau> Is aptitude fixed?
[16:49] <cousteau> (I just got an update saying something about multiarch on aptitude)
[16:49] <usr13> cousteau: It's not broken.
[16:49] <cousteau> * Apply upstream multiarch-conflicts.patch to handle conflicts on multi-arch systems. (LP: #831768)
[16:49] <usr13> cousteau: Read the above statement, (use apt-get).
[16:50] <cousteau> usr13, above statement was confusing and not too verbose
[16:50] <Poss-mob> And then nvidia-xconfig again?
[16:51] <cousteau> usr13, anyway, the reason ubottu recommends not to use it is the one that got solved on this update, right?
[16:52] <usr13> cousteau: I don't know about that but.  Whether it's a bug or lack of feature may be an ambiguous issue in relation to what you call it, but other than that, it's pretty clear.
[16:52] <cousteau> ...yeah, since that link on ubottu is the same bug
[16:52] <usr13> cousteau: So why not just use apt-get?
[16:53] <cousteau> cause I'm used to aptitude (although I've started getting used to apt-get), and because I'm curious to know if the bug the bot says is the one that has been fixed
[16:53] <cousteau> in that case, the bot factoid may be updated
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> cousteau  first get the issue solved, with apt-get, then investigate further
[16:54] <usr13> cousteau: I use apt-get because it does better what aptitude used to do.  It is not complicated.  I recommend you use apt-get
[16:54] <cousteau> MonkeyDust, yeah, the update manager uses apt-get
[16:54] <cousteau> usr13, apt-get needs `aptitude show` and `aptitude why`, though
[16:54] <usr13> Really?
[16:54] <cousteau> and some things such as aptitude's automatic autoremove
[16:55] <usr13> And why would it matter?
[16:55] <cousteau> anyway, I've got to go now.
[16:56] <usr13> Ok, ttyl
[16:58] <Poss-mob> So, i just tried deleting the conf and rerunning xconfig, didn't change anything. So i tried reinstalling the driver, it reinstalled fine. But i still have no GUI.
[16:58] <onr> what would be the reason an app with .desktop file doesn't show up in "open with" menu?
[16:58] <Poss-mob> The nomodeset seems to have fixed the read only issue though.
[16:58] <jwtiyar> my dvd writer not mounting in ubuntu , but in windows is ok
[16:59] <AtumT> jwtiyar: Try using a USB stick to boot ubuntu
[16:59] <usr13> Poss-mob: nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig
[17:00] <usr13> Poss-mob: Not so sure nomodeset was the issue to begin with.
[17:00] <jwtiyar> AtumT, i have installed ubutnu , but when i want to play dvd or cd its not mounting
[17:00] <usr13> !dvd | jwtiyar
[17:02] <JoMs> usr13: any chance you know a good way for disabling nouvaeu? it seems to be running even after being added to blacklist
[17:03] <pero_p> how can i check last 2 bytes of a file in bash?
[17:03] <jwtiyar> usr13, i think u didn't understand my Question
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, If you put discs in you see nothing?
[17:06] <Ab3L> hi
[17:06] <Ab3L> do you know nethogs? it allows to see which process is using your bandwidth and the amount. now my question: how can i limit the bandwidth for a specific process?
[17:06] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:06] <mzaza> Is Ubuntu 12.10 slower than 12.04 or it's just me? I feel certain tasks are slower like nautilus and the overall performance. I just installed it about 1 hour ago.
[17:06] <Poss-mob> Usr13: can nvidia settings be run without a gui? As i said, i have tried xconfig. That is not tye issue, the conf file clearly says nvidia. But no display appears
[17:06] <Luke23ae> how do you tell GRUB not to display but to boot a specific OS right away?
[17:07] <bekks> Ab3L: By setting up Quality of Service for your network.
[17:07] <bazhang> !info wondershaper | Ab3L
[17:07] <bazhang> Luke23ae, change the grub timeout
[17:07] <mzaza> Sorry! I mean is Ubuntu 13.04 slower than 12.10? Is the overall performance slower?
[17:07] <bazhang> !grub2 | Luke23ae have a read
[17:07] <bazhang> mzaza, faster
[17:08] <mzaza> bazhang: Application like nautilus, is slower. And monodevelop is slightly slower.
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> jwtiyar, Have you added the restricted-extras for the desktop you are using, or other codecs?
[17:08] <bazhang> mzaza, not here
[17:08] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, i dont remember
[17:09] <bazhang> jwtiyar, so install them
[17:09] <Luke23ae> bazhang: I still have GRUB 1 ^^
[17:09] <pero_p> how can i check last 2 bytes of a file in bash?
[17:09] <bazhang> Luke23ae, 1.98?
[17:09] <Sysaxed> what is the easiest way to detect mouse click in bash? in any window
[17:09] <jwtiyar> wilee-nilee, i think i added the restructed area but not required codecs
[17:09] <Sysaxed> pero_p: try tail
[17:09] <bazhang> pero_p, ask in #bash
[17:10] <bazhang> Luke23ae, what version of ubuntu are you on
[17:10] <pero_p> Sysaxed, you people are awesome :)
[17:10] <Luke23ae> bazhang: 8 something
[17:10] <pero_p> tnaks
[17:10] <pero_p> thanks
[17:11] <bazhang> Luke23ae, that sounds like its not supported
[17:11] <Luke23ae> :)
[17:11] <bazhang> !version | Luke23ae
[17:11] <alesan> hi; can I encrypt a home directory if I already have a user? 13.04 64 bits
[17:11] <Ab3L> bazhang: but wondershaper limits the bandwidth of an interface. i'd like something that limits band only for a process (not for all processes using an interface)
[17:11] <bazhang> !info trickle
[17:12] <bazhang> Ab3L, ^
[17:12] <Azraelboss> how's it going?
[17:13] <bazhang> Luke23ae, tell us the exact version pleaes
[17:13] <jalal> hey guys..need help
[17:13] <Poss-mob> To restate my problem simply: i have updated my graphics driver and now have no gui.
[17:13] <jwtiyar> bazhang, can u show me which codecs are required?
[17:13] <Luke23ae> 8.10
[17:13] <Luke23ae> bazhang: 8.10
[17:13] <jalal> I am trying to install openvas5 but i am getting error "openvas manager databse is too low"
[17:13] <bazhang> jwtiyar, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:13] <bazhang> Luke23ae, thats not supported, time to upgrade
[17:13] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Luke23ae
[17:14] <jwtiyar> bazhang, i know this , but i mean needed codecs
[17:14] <FatDarrel> hello is there a kickstart for ubuntu
[17:14] <MKCoin> Ok, that didn't work. I am set as the owner of these files and it says I have access to Create and Delete files, but cut/copy/rename/etc are still greyed out i nautilus. Any ideas?
[17:14] <jalal> Somebody help me..i am getting error in opvenvas setup..openvas manager databse is too low
[17:14] <bazhang> jwtiyar, you have not said what you are trying to do
[17:14] <Ab3L> bazhang: thank you.
[17:14] <Sysaxed> FatDarrel: what does it mean?
[17:14] <jwtiyar> bazhang, already i have restricted area installed'
[17:14] <bazhang> !repeat | jalal
[17:15] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, open a console , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras , the codecs you need will install
[17:15] <jwtiyar> bazhang, i said when i put dvd/cd in writer nothing happen
[17:15] <mzaza> bazhang: Do you use 1 partition for the Ubunut installation, or custom partitions?
[17:15] <MKCoin> Hm, I have tried Thunar and the restrictions are not there, it appears to be a Nautilus issue.
[17:15] <FatDarrel> Sysaxed: Have you used kickstart? It is a scripted install of a RHEL based os I was wondering if unbutnu had one.
[17:15] <jalal> @ubottu i am installing openvas in ubuntu and i am getting error "openvas database is too low"
[17:15] <bazhang> mzaza, what do you mean one
[17:16] <mzaza> bazhang: Your partition layout?
[17:16] <Luke23ae> bazhang: I have already installed 12.04, but my display won't switch on while booting. and because the old ubuntu is booted via GRUB I'm trying to set it up so it will boot into the new ubuntu and then delete the old one from my new one. messed up, i know
[17:16] <bazhang> jalal, dont repeat so quickly...
[17:16] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, thank you before was installed'
[17:16] <intrin> hi
[17:16] <bazhang> mzaza, swap / and /home
[17:16] <Sysaxed> FatDarrel: oh. Sorry, I don't know
[17:17] <intrin> whats the quickest way to find out what # perms this is ( drw-rwxrwx )
[17:17] <intrin> :/
[17:17] <bazhang> !permissions | intrin
[17:17] <jalal> @intrin what u mean? what u want to do exacty?
[17:17] <mzaza> bazhang: When I used seperate partition for home, I had a problem. When I used to remove the / and reinstall another Ubuntu version I used to get lots of errors. Do you experience the same?
[17:17] <jalal> r=4,w=2,1=x
[17:17] <FatDarrel> yo! anyone here know how to do a scripted install?
[17:17] <intrin> i want it to be displayed as green in ls -la instead of blue
[17:17] <intrin> :x
[17:17] <bazhang> mzaza, no
[17:18] <bekks> FatDarrel: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> jalal, Use the tab button to complete nicks @ does not inform the other user like you see this message in red.
[17:18] <mzaza> bazhang: Do you delete old config files before installation of new OS?
[17:18] <jalal> wilee-nilee: ok dude
[17:19] <bazhang> mzaza, your issue seems to be related to small amount of ram, or video driver/card issue; how much ram, which video card, and which driver, and how did you install that video driver
[17:20] <zyngawow> I'm running tomcat with a Java applet in it, and I set it up to write to ~/. Where is that folder if I run it with service tomcat7 start?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, restricted-extras ? maybe you should check again
[17:21] <mzaza> bazhang: I have 4GB of RAM and hybrid graphics on core i5 processor. This problem didn't happen with any Ubuntu version pirior to 13.04
[17:21] <bazhang> mzaza, which driver, and how installed
[17:21] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, yes was installed the output said already installed restricted area
[17:22] <mzaza> bazhang: I don't use the dedicated graphics, no need for it, i use the built in which is automatically installed the intel
[17:22] <mojtaba> Hi,  I have ubuntu 12.10, and want to know what precautions should I take if I want to upgrade to 13.04?
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, Have a backup.
[17:22] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: How can I backup?
[17:23] <mojtaba> :-P I am a newbie.
[17:23] <zyngawow> I'm running tomcat with a Java applet in it, and I set it up to write to ~/. Where is that folder if I run it with service tomcat7 start?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, You can backup what you can't afford to lose, you can go as far as cloning the OS.
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> on a external would be my preference
[17:23] <mojtaba> Is there any tool for this purpose? I have no experience.
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> !backup
[17:24] <mojtaba> !sbackup
[17:25] <mojtaba> !cloning
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, Good area to have some knowledge in it will cover you in any possibilities and get you back in the game.
[17:25] <ses1984> i'm trying to do an ubuntu net install, and i get to the screen where i select a mirror, choose whatever mirror i want, then it just shows me a blank purple screen and stops
[17:25] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar,  is it just codecs you need for a particular media file , is your cdrom is not recognized in the system?
[17:25] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Thank you very much
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, No problem, good luck. ;)]
[17:26] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, yes it recognize but when putting dvd or cd and then nothing happen and not mounting
[17:27] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, what about media files already stored on your system?
[17:28] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, i dont undrstand sorry
[17:29] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, do media files play,  like avi or mp3s that you have on your hard drive
[17:29] <whampton> I have an sftp question on Ubuntu 12.04:  sftp always fails with error subsystem request failed on channel 0
[17:29] <mzaza> What is more recommended having seperate partitions for / /home swap and /boot or having one partition for them all as Ubuntu does by default?
[17:29] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, yes yes its just not reading any dvd/cd
[17:30] <albttashi> Hi
[17:30] <whampton> mzaza for servers I like separate partitions, one is fine for workstations/desktops
[17:30] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, sudo mount /dev/cdrom , in the console
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, Depends, some like a seperate home so that upgrading the distro uses the orignal home.
[17:30] <albttashi> salam
[17:30] <blacklight> quite urgent question...i forcely rebooted my laptop (ubuntu 13.04, upgraded to it two days ago) after a weird kernel panic...since then, the maximum resolution allowed on my screen is 1024x768, although higher resolutions were allowed before
[17:30] <whampton> yes- separate home is very good and recommended
[17:31] <albttashi> BlackLight -> whats problem now ?
[17:31] <blacklight> albttashi: maximum allowed resolution: 1024x768
[17:31] <g3org3s_> hey all, how can i remove the left menu bar from ubuntu .?
[17:31] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619809/
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> g3kk3r, By changing the desktop.
[17:31] <blacklight> g3org3s_: install ccsm and remove it from the unity plugin
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> blacklight, Not true.
[17:33] <blacklight> wilee-nilee: ccsm -> desktop -> ubuntu unity plugin -> launcher -> hide launcher
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> blacklight, Hide is not remove.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, the dvd that won't read is it a rental or a purchased dvd ?
[17:34] <albttashi> blacklight : may you does n't  install graphic driver ?
[17:34] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, purchased
[17:34] <blacklight> albttashi: it worked fine until i rebooted, thus the drivers were installed
[17:35] <blacklight> what i see from dmesg, that worries me now, is this:
[17:35] <blacklight> [   17.732791] ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000540-0x000000000000054f SystemIO conflicts with Region \_SB_.PCI0.P0P2.VGA_.GPIO 2 (20121018/utaddress-251)
[17:35] <blacklight> [   17.732800] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[17:35] <adamk_> blacklight, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:35] <blacklight> it looks like a conflict that was not there before
[17:35] <albttashi> may be some thing happen in  upgrading ?
[17:36] <blacklight> adamk_: http://sprunge.us/gVOi
[17:36] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, aha , you don't have the libdvdcss2 file installed , it ignores DRM and regional coding for commercial dvds
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> g3org3s_, The left panel is coded into the desktop, however yo can hide it as suggested, there are other desktops you can run if you like
[17:36] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, how i can install it?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2
[17:37] <albttashi> guys I wanna start programming on ubuntu How I can start ?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar,^
[17:37] <g3org3s_> wilee-nilee,  thanks
[17:37] <adamk_> blacklight, KMS is disabled, so nouveau can't work.  It's falling back to the vesa driver.  Pastebin the full output of 'dmesg'
[17:37] <whampton> I have a problem with sftp on Ubuntu 12.04 (ssh works fine).  I try to sftp to a test account and keep getting subsystem request failed on channel 0
[17:37] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | jwtiyar
[17:38] <blacklight> adamk_: http://sprunge.us/fBDX
[17:38] <Avatar_> hi all
[17:38] <albttashi> hi avatar
[17:38] <whampton> hi avatar
[17:38] <Avatar_> is someone here have great knowledge on networking?
[17:39] <Poss-mob> Rebooted into previous kernel, downloaded alternate driver versions, ill now try them one by one.
[17:39] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, libdvdread4 is already installed
[17:39] <bazhang> Avatar_, try ##networking
[17:40] <Avatar_> bazhang, ok thanks.
[17:40] <g3org3s_> can i put the unity plugin down .? instead of left ?
[17:41] <blacklight> adamk_: any hint..? sorry for chasing but i can barely work in such conditions :(
[17:41] <adamk_> blacklight, Well, you have a kernel panic from your sound drivers.  I have no idea if that's related or not...  I'm not seeing any output from the nouveau kernel driver, which is strange.
[17:41] <ganimede> hi all. i am using ubuntu 13.04 and would like to know if it possible to support multitouch on an acer t231h
[17:41] <adamk_> blacklight, Do you have an older kernel installed that you can try?
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> g3org3s_, Nah it is stuck on the left.
[17:41] <Avatar_> anyone know how to execute a script from a server to install prgrams to all of the pc's in a network?
[17:41] <g3org3s_> wilee-nilee,  thats unfortunate :p
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> g3org3s_, You can shrink it.
[17:42] <albttashi> welcome all
[17:42] <ganimede> g3org3s_, the unity rotate plug-in of compiz is not supported anymore. pity, I liked it
[17:42] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, try installing libdvdcss2
[17:42] <albttashi> avatar this may be open stack
[17:42] <blacklight> adamk_: the older kernels of 12.10
[17:42] <blacklight> i don't know whether they're bootable yet
[17:43] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, its also newest version
[17:43] <whampton> Avatar_, clusterit is great and supports dsh which can be setup to SSH to a group of computers to run commands or install packages
[17:43] <adamk_> blacklight, Not sure, but it probably can't hurt to try.  This looks to me like some kernel bug.
[17:43] <adamk_> blacklight, One other thing you could try...  pass 'vga=normal' to the kernel when booting via grub.
[17:43] <Avatar_> whampton, at the same time??
[17:44] <blacklight> adamk_: ok i'll try with vga normal and be back asap...thanks for the support so far
[17:44] <BluesKaj> jw then you must a new dvd for which linux hasn't found a workaround yet. :(
[17:44] <g3org3s_> ganimede, is compiz fusion and all that cube n 3d stuff still supported ,
[17:44] <g3org3s_> ?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar,^
[17:45] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, new DRM encryption /wrapper
[17:45] <Avatar_> whampton, you mean clustering right?
[17:45] <ganimede> yes, i use several of these effects. but unity rotate is gone. also, you need a gpu acceleration
[17:45] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, pardon?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, do all your dvds behave the same , they won't play ?
[17:46] <mzaza> If I use one partition as Ubuntu recommends during installation while I lose my data if I upgrade one day?
[17:46] <whampton> Avatar_, I use the tool Clusterit:  http://www.garbled.net/clusterit.html  -- runs commands in parallel
[17:46] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, i tried two
[17:46] <whampton> Avatar_, it can run a block of commands on MANY hosts at once
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, YOU could lose all your data at any time, always have backups. A overwrite of a partition will remove data.
[17:47] <Avatar_> whampton, oh. beginning to like this
[17:48] <BluesKaj> jwtiyar, well, I'm out of ideas , ubuntu-restricted-extras and the medibuntu codec apps should work on 99% of commercial dvds.
[17:48] <uponatree> hey guys, we've got some issues with grub on a software raid 5 after we added new disks, it says "no such disk" and enteres rescue shell. All partitions are on the raid 5. How can I recover grub? I can boot the os via super grub disk. Any ideas?
[17:48] <whampton> setup ssh keys to your group of hosts as root, setup the list for Clusterit, it works great
[17:48] <Avatar_> whampton, do you have an idea on how to like shutdown all the computers in a network on a certain time and boot it up on a certain time too?
[17:48] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: Does system upgrade requires overwrite of partition?
[17:48] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, ok i just restart the pc
[17:49] <jwtiyar> BluesKaj, thank you very much
[17:50] <viran> Hey, how do i boot a machine into single mode? i'd like to reset root's password
[17:50] <blacklight> adamk_: vga=normal did the trick
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> mzaza, Depends on how you upgrade, honestly your questions here are rather vague, you might start a thread at the ubuntu forums asking on upgrades and preserving your stuff. There are handfuls of ways to do this.
[17:50] <blacklight> anyway i'm wondering why this happened
[17:50] <Jordan_U> uponatree: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that when prompted you configure it to install grub's boot sector to the MBR of each disk in the array (and if the BIOS might ever decide to boot any other disks, them too).
[17:51] <mzaza> wilee-nilee: OK, I guess I'll go with repartition my system. Thanks.
[17:51] <blacklight> for now i can boot my kernel with vga=normal as well, but it sounds like a dirty patch
[17:51] <uponatree> :Jordan_U I'll try
[17:51] <Jordan_U> viran: Ubuntu doens't have a root password set by default, and highly recommmends against setting one. Why do you want to "reset" the root password?
[17:52] <plshelp> hi, could you help me pls....I accidentally dropped a glass on my notebook....now the harddisc seems to be broken....is there a possibility it is cauesed by software?
[17:53] <Avatar_> anyone know how to shutdown and boot up ubuntu pc using bash script?
[17:53] <plshelp> disc won
[17:53] <blacklight> Avatar_: sudo reboot
[17:53] <adamk_> plshelp, You already seem to have identified the cause...  I'm not sure how dropping a glass on you laptop could be considered a software problem :-)
[17:53] <bazhang> plshelp, try ##hardware
[17:53] <Jordan_U> plshelp: It's not likely.
[17:53] <adamk_> blacklight, Cool.  I definitely recommend reporting this bug.
[17:54] <viran> Jordan_U: I have a local VM machine with ubuntu, i have access to a regular user but not for super user. i'd like to make that user into a superuser, how would you do that?
[17:54] <whampton> Avatar_  shutdown could be done using Clusterit (dsh -g myservers /sbin/shutdown -h now), startup would require something else
[17:54] <adamk_> blacklight, There is some conflict between the vesafb driver and the nouveau driver.  The handoff from vesafb to nouveaudrmfb should be smooth.
[17:54] <bazhang> viran, sudo
[17:54] <Avatar_> i mean bash script. i want to automate shutdown and boot up on a certain time
[17:54] <whampton> Avatar_ smart PDU or similar or programming the CMOS to reboot
[17:55] <blacklight> Avatar_: in order to automate it at a certain time, you can always place /sbin/reboot in your crontab, maybe with chmod a+s on it
[17:55] <Avatar_> blacklight, how to do that??
[17:55] <Poss-mob> Plshelp - turn off the computer immediately, pull out the bits you can and throw wet bits into a dessicant.
[17:56] <Poss-mob> Wait till everything is dry before plugging anything in, let alone turning it on.
[17:56] <plshelp> yes I know....but how many times I kicked my old computer when he bas not doing what I wanted....it went black but restart fixed it....I thought if it is not possible my harddisc just fainted
[17:56] <plshelp> there was no water in it
[17:56] <plshelp> i forgot to say that
[17:57] <blacklight> Avatar_: crontab -e, man crontab for checking the format of the crontab file, then place /sbin/reboot at the specified time in your crontab. in order to execute reboot you need either: 1. to be root 2. to be allowed to run it through sudo 3. to have the reboot executable with the stick bit on (sudo chmod a+s /sbin/reboot)
[17:57] <plshelp> the glass just hit the case and it went black
[17:57] <BluesKaj> probly jarred the readers on the hdd
[17:57] <bazhang> plshelp, thats hardware    ##hardware for assistance
[17:57] <Avatar_> is there some here good at networking?? ##networking no one qnswers
[17:58] <blacklight> Avatar_: what's the issue? (it may be OT anyway)
[17:58] <acoleman1981> i'm good at networking, what's the issue
[17:58] <plshelp> but system still see it...
[17:58] <viran> bazhang: i cant sudo, im not in that group
[17:58] <acoleman1981> private message me
[17:58] <bazhang> acoleman1981, no PM ask here
[17:58] <blacklight> plshelp: it is a software issue anyway, please open a ticket named "ubuntu causes glasses to smash on computers"
[17:59] <Ip`Cop> Hi all, who know how to fix this: when i try to install wireless drive i got: "WARNING: Symbol version dump ... is missing; modules will have no dependencies "
[17:59] <Avatar_> my server rebooted and now i have an IP conflict issue...i have 5 switches and now the PC's cant connect to the network
[17:59] <BluesKaj> acoleman1981, it would be good if you shared your exopertise so we can all benefit , rather than a pm , but that's up to you .
[17:59] <adamk_> plshelp, Define broken...  Does Ubuntu not boot up?  What errors do you get?
[18:00] <Freakish> can someone help me out with pulseaudio? im running a pbx in virtualbox and when i make calls the person complains that what they say echos back to them
[18:00] <ses1984> i'm trying to do an ubuntu net install, and i get to the screen where i select a mirror, choose whatever mirror i want, then it just shows me a blank purple screen and stops
[18:00] <uponatree> :Jordan_U That worked fine, thank you!
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> ses1984, A net install is a text install, where did you get the disc?
[18:01] <ses1984> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/
[18:01] <plshelp> when it hit the case, it went black...and now I can load the system(live cd), but when I try to access my disc, it says....unable to mount 496 GB Filesystem
[18:02] <adamk_> plshelp, Check the output of 'dmesg' to see what errors are generated when you try accessing the disc.
[18:03] <plshelp> huh....I lot of information....what should I search for?
[18:03] <Freakish> fixed it, disabled sound in virtualbox and now works like a charm
[18:03] <adamk_> Anything related to the hard drive, which is probably device sda.  If you're not sure what you're looking at, pastebin the full output of 'dmesg'.
[18:05] <Baribal> Hi. Is wine still the go-to app to run Windows binaries?
[18:06] <user82> anyone else got short desktop freezes on unity minimize/maximize animation with ATI?
[18:06] <user82> it can take for like 1-2seconds in a bad case and is the case quite often for me
[18:07] <Ip`Cop> anyone knows how to fix error msg "WARNING: Symbol version dump ... is missing; modules will have no dependencies "
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> Baribal, Depends, there is playon linux as well, I assume you understand the limitations overall.
[18:07] <plshelp> where should I paste it?
[18:08] <plshelp> last lines
[18:08] <plshelp> [  366.319337] JBD2: Failed to read block at offset 6779
[18:08] <plshelp> [  366.375018] JBD2: recovery failed
[18:08] <Baribal> wilee-nilee, not really. I've got a basic understanding how wine works, and that's it.
[18:08] <plshelp>   366.375029] EXT4-fs (sda1): error loading journal
[18:08] <esing> Baribal, You can also run them seamlessly in virtualbox  if you have a windows key ( and if you have an SSD, that's pretty neat). The advantage is that you can run all windows binaries and your system would be imho a little more secure in comparision to wine)
[18:09] <mysteriousdarren> blat
[18:10] <sdglsdgkjgda> My touchpad left click stops working after a while on my laptop, and is only fixed by a reboot. What could be going on?
[18:11] <lenim> Poss-mob: you fix it.
[18:13] <esing> Baribal,  If you run a harmful windows binary in virtualbox, then only your virtual windows system would be harmed, though if you'd run a harmful widows binary in wine, your linux system has a higher risk to get attacked. It should also be possible to break out of the virtualbox, but as I heared that is unlikely to happen, since a program needed to be written very bad, giving an explot a chance to break out of virtualbox
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> !wine > Baribal
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> Baribal, Not sure if that link is helpful, let us know.
[18:14] <plshelp> Is it possible ubuntu can't load my disc due to software after a hit to the case? It sais it is not mounted....help pls :]
[18:14] <lenim> Baribal: no way homey
[18:15] <lenim> esing: it can not.
[18:15] <bazhang> !behelpful | lenim
[18:15] <Baribal> esing, I'll try wine then, I just want to play Papers, Please. :)
[18:16] <Poss-mob> I  fixed it!!!!
[18:19] <MrPink> anyone care to help me set up ssh from my xubuntu machine to my ubuntu machine via rsa passkey?
[18:19] <MrPink> i cant get it to work publickey keeps failing after usb transfer
[18:19] <h00k> MrPink: you can try ssh-copy-id user@destinationserver
[18:20] <h00k> MrPink: that will automatically take the pubkey and copy it where it needs to go on the destination server you specify
[18:20] <h00k> ubottu: ssh | MrPink This may also be of use
[18:21] <h00k> !netsplit
[18:21] <kubotsu> i has SHOW nau!!  0.o
[18:21] <Dr_Drache> I have an issue with my LTS workstation with nvidia GFX card, after typing my password and trying to login, i get thrown back to lightDM
[18:22] <Dr_Drache> anyone able to give me a hand with this?
[18:22] <MrPink> h00k: Thank you how do i specify a port with that command/
[18:23] <Poss-mob> The moral of the story is, update your drivers through the manager, not from the nvidia site!
[18:23] <MrPink> h00k: Thank you how do i specify a port with that command?
[18:23] <Dr_Drache> that doesn't help
[18:23] <Dr_Drache> :P
[18:23] <kubotsu> MrPink: h00k sort of implied that the command would send the key where it needs to go, automagically
[18:23] <kubotsu> give it a try
[18:24] <plshelp> hi...ubuntu cant mount my disc...could you give me any advice?
[18:24] <Ryp-Ryd3r> and then what do I do?
[18:24] <h00k> MrPink: you can do:  ssh-copy-id '-p XXXX username@servergoeshere'
[18:24] <h00k> MrPink: those single quotes should do it ^
[18:24] <yashh> hello guys
[18:24] <bazhang> plshelp, the computer that something heavy dropped on?
[18:25] <plshelp> yes ._.
[18:25] <h00k> kubotsu: it will, but only over the default port, above will let you specify another
[18:25] <MrPink> h00k:Thank you
[18:25] <Dr_Drache> anyone else able to help me, this is driving me totally bonkers
[18:25] <kubotsu> i see
[18:25] <bazhang> plshelp, thats hardware, try ##hardware for support
[18:25] <kubotsu> still...]
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> !patience > Dr_Drache
[18:25] <plshelp> ok
[18:25] <Guest88779> wht is better ubuntu 12.10 or ubuntu studio
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> !details > Dr_Drache
[18:26] <h00k> !best | Guest88779
[18:26] <Dr_Drache> well, i thought i described it well
[18:26] <bazhang> Guest88779, thats totally opinion, please dont poll. decide for yourself
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> to use a special port in ssh-copy-id i would think you need to use ~.ssh/config
[18:26] <yashh> i am using ubuntu 12.04, I cannot autohide my launcher,help pls??
[18:26] <hlrossato> Programo em Django e estou tendo problemas com thumbnail no ubuntu 12.10... alguém poderia me ajudar?
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> or that the ssh-copy-id commands interprets the ssh -o args and passes them back
[18:26] <plshelp> #hardware for support
[18:26] <Ryp-Ryd3r> Anybody ever use the Gentoo or Sabayon Linux distrobution?
[18:26] <plshelp> shit
[18:26] <bazhang> hlrossato, english here please
[18:27] <hlrossato> ok....sorry....
[18:27] <bazhang> Ryp-Ryd3r, sure, but thats way offtopic here
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> !es > hiro
[18:27] <Dr_Drache> I have an issue with my LTS workstation (11.10, then updated to 12.04) with nvidia GFX card (GF300) , after typing my password and trying to login, i get thrown back to lightDM, lightdm logs state that screen cannot be found, OR device cannot be found
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> !es
[18:27] <Ryp-Ryd3r> Sorry.
[18:27] <Dr_Drache> Kernel logs state that the driver is wrong
[18:27] <marina__> what is a better choice android or ios?
[18:27] <Guest88779> i failed to write ubuntu 12.10 in a dvd. wht speed i will write ubuntu????
[18:27] <bazhang> marina__, thats not even remotely related to ubuntu support
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> Guest88779, Generally the slowest.
[18:28] <hlrossato> i'm a django programmer and I have had some problems with thumbnail on ubuntu 12.04...someone can help me?
[18:28] <marina__> when is the ubuntu mobile phone coming out?
[18:28] <Dr_Drache> I have tried xorg.conf delete, purge the nvidia*, as well as going back to nourava (spelling)
[18:28] <auronandace> !phone | marina__
[18:28] <bazhang> !touch | marina__
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> marina__, #ubuntu-touch
[18:29] <Guest88779> i tried it but it says it don works plz tell me specific speed so that i can write>...
[18:29] <bazhang> Guest88779, 4x
[18:29] <arianit> hi, I upgraded Gnome in Ubuntu 13.04 to Gnome 3.8 and removed it. now Ubuntu is not one of the options in lightdm. I think there is nothing wrong with Unity, just that it is not showing up in lightdm. any clue?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest88779, What app are you using to image the dvd?
[18:29] <bazhang> arianit, the PPA?
[18:29] <Guest88779> magic iso
[18:29] <yashh> how do i get ubuntu 13.04 ??
[18:30] <mattb> 'w 19
[18:30] <bazhang> !torrents | yashh
[18:30] <bionex> type in terminal sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:30] <bazhang> bionex, thats not correct
[18:30] <Dr_Drache> also attempted to dpkg-reconfigure
[18:30] <Dr_Drache> nothing seems to change a thing
[18:31] <Guest88779> i write ubuntu 12.10 in 4x speed but when i going to boot it says somethin is wrong about my hard disk and it may occur due to speed what i will do???
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> Guest88779, Imgburn would be my choice in windows, if there is no stock app. http://www.imgburn.com/
[18:32] <tgm4883> bionex, -d is only needed to update to the development release.
[18:32] <Dr_Drache> ok
[18:32] <Guest88779> ok which speed i will burn???
[18:32] <kubotsu> yashh: systemsettings > appereance > behavior     it has the option to hide the launcher bar
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> Guest88779, Have you checked the sum of the ISO, and is there any problems with the HD?
[18:32] <bazhang> Guest88779, md5 the iso first
[18:33] <Dr_Drache> the kernel say's it's loading kernel version 295.20 (nvidia module) but yet nvidia-current is 3xx.
[18:33] <marina__> how to i learn to use terminal?
[18:33] <Guest88779> no
[18:33] <arianit> bazhang, yes
[18:34] <Guest88779> i am now using ubuntu studio
[18:34] <Guest88779> 12.10
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> marina__, Here is a wiki with lots of links. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:35] <marina__> thanks
[18:35] <sdglsdgkjgda> My touchpad left click stops working after a while on my laptop, and is only fixed by a reboot. What could be going on?
[18:35] <Guest88779> i used ubuntu 12.10 studio but nothing seemed rong. but i can not install ubuntu 12.10 why???? i dont think my harddisk is faulity
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > Guest88779
[18:36] <kubotsu> Guest88779: you have a bad disk. make new
[18:37] <yashh> how to perform c program in ubuntu
[18:39] <jaimef> how does one disable compiz in 13?
[18:40] <Aaron_> yashh, try anjuta
[18:40] <natural> hi ubuntu, i am wondering how to update through the terminal, i want to perform the same update that the software updater performs, but through the terminal.  any help?
[18:40] <Aaron_> natural, sudo apt-get upate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:40] <Aaron_> and also natural man apt
[18:41] <Ennom> natural: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:41] <natural> thanks Aaron but why do i need to hit distr upgrade?
[18:41] <arianit> how do I edit what what options appears on LightDM?
[18:41] <yashh> how many months does ubuntu 13.04 last??
[18:42] <natural> i heard it was going for 9 months
[18:43] <yashh> so when will the complete version released?
[18:43] <tgm4883> yashh, what do you mean?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> yashh,  18
[18:43] <natural> you mean long term support?
[18:43] <jelly-home> yashh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:43] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, 13.04 is supported for 9 months
[18:43] <natural> hm... i dont know if there will be one on the 13's  i heard it will be 14.04
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> ah
[18:43] <yashh> ok
[18:43] <tgm4883> 14.04 is the next LTS
[18:43] <natural> there you go
[18:44] <yashh> so, 13.04 will be LTS???
[18:44] <tgm4883> yashh, no
[18:44] <natural> no
[18:44] <natural> 14.04 is lts
[18:44] <yashh> o h  ok
[18:45] <natural> 13.04 is 9 months
[18:45] <riddrib> Where can find programmer to helping !
[18:45] <yashh> thanks guys
[18:45] <natural> riddrib, try #programming
[18:45] <savio> riddrib try programming channel
[18:45] <riddrib> thank you
[18:45] <kubotsu> no matter, EVERy release IS a complete release
[18:45] <natural> yore welcome yashh and riddrib
[18:45] <savio> Like ##c
[18:45] <savio> For c lang help
[18:46] <Dr_Drache> ! !blah
[18:46] <kubotsu> except for the updates that is.. but so what
[18:46] <Dr_Drache> lol
[18:46] <yashh> what do ya guys think about zorin OS  ???
[18:46] <tgm4883> !OT
[18:46] <savio> yashh !offtopic
[18:46] <yashh> ooo k
[18:47] <natural> lol
[18:47] <Learningg> any1 got a vps i could use ?
[18:47] <natural> vps? does he mean vpn?
[18:48] <natural> whats a vps?
[18:48] <zerick> Hi everybody, what is the latest recommended version of Ubuntu in which work with corosync, pacemaker, drbd or heartbeat?
[18:48] <Dr_Drache> so, no one has a clue, damn looks like a format is in my near furture
[18:48] <tgm4883> natural, virtual private server
[18:48] <natural> oh, thanks tgm4883
[18:48] <dylan> Dr_Drache: What's your problem?
[18:48] <Ennom> Dr_Drache: what's the problem?
[18:49] <Dr_Drache> I have an issue with my LTS workstation (11.10, then updated to 12.04) with nvidia GFX card (GF300) , after typing my password and trying to login, i get thrown back to lightDM, lightdm logs state that screen cannot be found, OR device cannot be found
[18:49] <Dr_Drache> Kernel logs state that the driver is wrong
[18:49] <Dr_Drache> I have tried xorg.conf delete, purge the nvidia*, as well as going back to nourava (spelling)
[18:50] <yashh> how to download ubuntu for tablets????
[18:50] <tgm4883> !touch | yashh
[18:50] <Dr_Drache> only thing that changed, was i attempted to use a 2nd monitor
[18:51] <kubotsu> is it still connected?
[18:51] <Dr_Drache> no
[18:51] <natural> Dr_Drache, did you try #hardware ? they help with that kind of stuff too, but i am not sure wwaht the prob is, they helped me alot though.
[18:51] <kubotsu> can you log in with the second monitor in?
[18:51] <Dr_Drache> kubotsu, i can try real quick
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Drache, With a upgrade it may be more then a graphic problem, try a live cd/usb of 12.04.
[18:52] <Dr_Drache> wilee-nilee, i tried the upgrade after the issue arose
[18:52] <dylan> c/WIN 3
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Drache, That was a bad idea, upgrades don't just magically fix things.
[18:52] <yashh> my tab aint supported for touch (
[18:52] <Dr_Drache> wilee-nilee, i know it was, that was a mistake
[18:52] <Ennom> Dr_Drache: did u use xrandr to change the monitor setups? had a similar issue and had to reinstall all
[18:53] <Dr_Drache> Ennom, only attempted nvidia-settings
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Drache, If it were me I would of  had it backed up and fresh installed by now, but I don't like wasting time. ;)
[18:54] <Ennom> Dr_Drache: can't agree more with wilee-nilee :)
[18:54] <Dr_Drache> yea
[18:54] <Dr_Drache> well..
[18:54] <kubotsu> it would only take half hour really..
[18:55] <_WolfeZ_> how can i login as root user?
[18:55] <kubotsu> the base system that is .. then there is the chunk of updates to follow but , just saying
[18:55] <tgm4883> !noroot | _WolfeZ_
[18:55] <Baribal> _WolfeZ_, sudo su
[18:55] <bazhang> Baribal, thats not right
[18:55] <elisa87> I installed a tool (and I though it already installed the crosstool ) but after installation I received this message: For auto-completion, do not forget to install 'ct-ng.comp' into your bash completion directory (usually /etc/bash_completion.d) . Do you know what I should exactly do? Should I download and configure install crosstool-ng on my own again?
[18:55] <www2> _WolfeZ_ or sudo -s
[18:55] <yashh> how to use backspace to go to previous page in any browser?
[18:56] <Baribal> bazhang, Works for me. What's not right about it?
[18:56] <_WolfeZ_> www2:  no i want to login not in the terminal!
[18:56] <bazhang> Baribal, a root shell is sudo -i
[18:56] <Dr_Drache> ok
[18:56] <Baribal> I guess there are lots of ways to skin the rootlessness. :)
[18:56] <Dr_Drache> well
[18:56] <Dr_Drache> when i use a 2nd monitor
[18:57] <bazhang> Baribal, not the ubuntu way there s not
[18:57] <dylan> I think he may mean login to the GUI as root
[18:57] <Dr_Drache> it comes back and switches which monitor is #1
[18:57] <bazhang> there is no root account enabled, so use sudo -i Baribal
[18:57] <www2> @_WolfeZ_ sudo su and sudo -s are almost the same
[18:57] <dylan> Baribal: What are you trying to do?
[18:58] <Dr_Drache> Ennom, wilee-nilee, no change with 2nd monitor
[18:58] <lmat> Where would be the best place to invest in free software?
[18:58] <marin> hello, Im having some trouble with roostock, the error Im getting is : "./rootstock: 1000: ./rootstock: cannot create /tmp/tmp.C7sAyhcAxf/tmpmount/etc/fstab: Directory nonexistent" , Ubuntu 13.04
[18:58] <lmat> If I'm looking to dig into something a bit and contribute, should it be Wine, Ubuntu? Linux? GNU?
[18:58] <tgm4883> lmat, contribute to something you use (and that you are interested in)
[18:59] <lmat> tgm4883: There's too much!
[18:59] <tgm4883> lmat, doubt it. What do you use
[18:59] <lmat> tgm4883: I'm interested in what I mentioned, but I'd like to know which one could use help the most...or something...
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Drache, I would not be able to help if the 11.10 was working before the upgrade, I would if I could. ;)
[18:59] <lmat> tgm4883: irssi, vim, tmux, ubuntu, alpine, chromium, (linux of course), cairo-dock
[18:59] <dylan> lmat: irssi!
[19:00] <tgm4883> lmat, probably alpine or cairo-dock then
[19:00] <lmat> tgm4883: And I'd like to be able to use Wine but it doesn't support Lync which is really my lynchpin right now.
[19:00] <kubotsu> in ubuntu, whenever you call on sudo you become root for the moment. so sudo is a way to become root on demand. thats all.
[19:00] <lmat> tgm4883: How did you decide that? Although I would enjoy it, are they important?
[19:00] <tgm4883> those are the ones I haven't heard of
[19:00] <lmat> tgm4883: I could also see myself working on drivers, etc. (It's on my mind right now because my mic doesn't work :-| )
[19:01] <tgm4883> lmat, it really depends on what you know I suppose
[19:01] <dylan> sadfhjkl
[19:01] <lmat> tgm4883: Maybe I should ask the respective communities or get on their mailing list or something and decide for myself.
[19:01] <dylan> Sorry, dropped something on keyboard
[19:01] <tgm4883> lmat, yea probably a good idea
[19:01] <lmat> tgm4883: I was hoping to hear "Gnome is really hurting for a few developers" or something :)
[19:02] <tgm4883> lmat, Mythbuntu needs developers
[19:02] <lmat> tgm4883: What the heck is that? ^_^
[19:02] <tgm4883> !mythbuntu | lmat
[19:02] <lmat> ha! I don't know what MythTV is, but I'm guessing I don't want to, either ^_^
[19:03] <Baribal> dylan, me? Nothing.
[19:03] <tgm4883> lmat, it's a PVR
[19:03] <bazhang> !ot | lmat
[19:03] <lmat> ubottu: Oh yes, thanks.
[19:04] <alex-s77> Hi. I'd like to rebuild the kernel with one additional patch. At best, I'd like to end up with deb packages that I can install. How would I go about it?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> alex-s77  #ubuntu-kernel
[19:05] <alex-s77> MonkeyDust: ok
[19:05] <bsdbeard> Is there a way to check if a directory belongs to a package? (installed with dpkg/apt)
[19:08] <trism> bsdbeard: dpkg -S
[19:10] <bsdbeard> trism: Thanks, it seems to work :)
[19:16] <JackSprat> Currently having a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, can anyone help?
[19:16] <sujith> hello
[19:16] <InfiniteByte> In LXDE, is there a way to have two monitors with seperate taskbars (so that the taskbar on one monitor only shows the windows that are on this monitor)?
[19:16] <dylan> JackSprat: This is the support channel, just ask
[19:17] <sujith> good evening
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> JackSprat  10.04 is or will soon be !eol, consider upgrading
[19:17] <dylan> sujith: Anything we can help with?
[19:18] <JackSprat> Thanks, I restarted GNOME using sudo /etc/init.d gem restart. Now when I restart I get a blank desktop with no icons or menus nor a login (not sure if I should jump to the GNOME channel)
[19:18] <JackSprat> right click does nothing but I can jump to terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F1
[19:19] <dylan> JackSprat: Do you have two monitors?
[19:19] <JackSprat> no but I can
[19:19] <dylan> No, just curious
[19:19] <JackSprat> I can ssh into Ubuntu from my Mac though
[19:20] <dylan> There is a piece of softare that people with 2 monitors will ocassionally use that causes that
[19:20] <dylan> forget the name...
[19:20] <JackSprat> It even says that gdm is already running (which I guess it is) but I can't login in via the GUI
[19:20] <InfiniteByte> JackSprat, is there any way of logging in? Maybe from the Terminal, starting the xserver? Then logging out and back in again
[19:20] <Kion> how do I creat a launcher for a script I have?
[19:21] <Kion> I mean in unity
[19:21] <dylan> Kion: Should be able to right click > create launcher
[19:22] <Kion> dylan: So just right click my executable file? and that is it??
[19:22] <dylan> On the desktop
[19:22] <dylan> and click "create launcher"
[19:22] <JackSprat> Hmm, dylan, what do you mean? When I Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get out to the command line and can login in as a user or root, but when I flip back to GNOME nothing has changed. So I can login and edit but not sure what to start.
[19:23] <Kion> dylan: Well I am trying to create a launcher for Blender 3D, the executable is in a directory other than my desktop
[19:24] <JackSprat> My Apache is still even serving my website…so odd!
[19:25] <ascorbic> I'm trying to add a certificate (originally .cer, but I seemed to have successfully converted to .pem). How do I add it so it will apply to the whole system (i.e. not just Firefox)?
[19:25] <dylan> Kion: unfortuneately I'm not at my desktop, so I can't remember it all of the top of my head
[19:26] <InfiniteByte> JackSprat, have you tried sudo restart gdm?
[19:26] <JackSprat> yes, it goes black and then goes back to the blank desktop
[19:26] <Kion> dylan: Thanks anyway!  Right clicked my executable and the create launcher option was not there
[19:26] <dylan> You right click on the desktop
[19:26] <dylan> not on any files
[19:27] <Kion> ohhh ok
[19:32] <ebernhardson> i have a laptop(lenovo ideapad u310) where they decided to default the top row to "special keys" (sound up/down screen on/off etc) and hide F1-F12 behind a modifier key,  is there some way i can swap that from the OS level?
[19:33] <ebernhardson> i'd much rather use alt-f2 than alt-fn-f2, i'm sure you can understand :)
[19:34] <JackSprat> I restarted GNOME using sudo /etc/init.d gem restart. Now when I restart I get a blank desktop with no icons or menus nor a login. I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[19:35] <themhz> I am typing the command sudo find bazouka -type d -exec chmod 755 ‘{}’ \; and the command enters the folders and each subfolders but I get in all of them while recursing cannot access bazouka/modules/mod_feed no such file or directory
[19:35] <themhz> what am I doing wrong?
[19:35] <themhz> again the command " sudo find bazouka -type d -exec chmod 755 ‘{}’ \;  "
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> themhz  i guess the single quotes are not needed --> {}
[19:36] <kubotsu> ebernhardson: this link might get you started:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys
[19:37] <fishcooker> hello everyone
[19:37] <zuzak> ebernhardson: you can switch it over in the bios
[19:37] <fishcooker> should i disable secure boot control on bios if i wanna dual boot win8 with ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[19:37] <zuzak> but you probably knew that
[19:39] <rockerkitty> Im out too
[19:39] <ebernhardson> kubotsu: sadly xev reports that they are not the same thing,  normal key presses are reported as 'KeyPress' events with a single key,  only about half the keys even report something coming out of xev
[19:39] <ebernhardson> zuzak: i will double check, but didn't see it in the bios earlier
[19:39] <ebernhardson> kubotsu: and the ones that do arnt KeyPress, they are KeymapNotify (whatever that means)
[19:40] <zuzak> ebernhardson: I have the u300e, let me check
[19:40] <zuzak> ebernhardson: for me it's labelled "HotKey Mode", I imagine it's similar on the 310
[19:41] <themhz> MonkeyDust, thank you that was it
[19:41] <ebernhardson> zuzak: hmm, ok i'll reboot and look again. thanks!
[19:41] <Jamiem93> I have had so many issues with Ubuntu today. I really need to learn what I'm doing :P
[19:42] <bazhang> !manual | Jamiem93 this may help
[19:42] <Jamiem93> It isn't that. It's everything else.
[19:42] <JackSprat> I restarted GNOME using sudo /etc/init.d gem restart. Now when I restart I get a blank desktop with no icons or menus nor a login. I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[19:42] <Jamiem93> I think the problems started with when I burnt ubuntu to a disk on the highest speed.
[19:43] <Jamiem93> I'm now trying to burn it again using the lowest possible speed.
[19:43] <zuzak> try checking the checksum
[19:43] <mpmc> Blarg, tried to install Ubuntu server minimal 13.04, the installer saw my usb stick and decided to use it as sda & then proceeded to install grub to it, even though I'd set it up to use the hard drive on the machine?!
[19:43] <Jamiem93> Done that.
[19:43] <Nadiyama> Hi all.
[19:43] <bsdbeard> Jamiem93: You could just put it on a usb drive
[19:44] <Jamiem93> I don't have any spare lol.
[19:44] <Jamiem93> That's probably what I'll end up doing, buying another USB purely for Ubuntu.
[19:44] <n-iCe> will ubuntu-desktop install gnome2 or 3? or unity?
[19:44] <BJFreeman> !g dimable cfl
[19:44] <n-iCe> !ubuntu-desktop
[19:45] <Nadiyama> Hi, I'm trying to open a .exe file but the "wine" entry is not displayed in the "show all apps" list. Manually open it with "wine app.exe" works. Why isn't wine in the application list? Thank you.
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> Nadiyama  right click on the exe, then select wine
[19:46] <Nadiyama> MonkeyDust, wine is not there. That's what I'm talking about.
[19:46] <ebernhardson> perfect, somehow i missed that in bios but its all good now :)
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Nadiyama  maybe a logout does the trick
[19:47] <Nadiyama> Hmmf... ok brb
[19:48] <SuperSonic68223> Good afternoon!
[19:49] <Nadiyama> Nope, not working.
[19:49] <SuperSonic68223> So, if I may, I'd like to ask a question about Linux distros
[19:50] <bazhang> SuperSonic68223, this is ubuntu support specifically
[19:50] <bazhang> SuperSonic68223, general linux in ##linux
[19:50] <SuperSonic68223> Ah, I see. Where would you suggest I head then?
[19:51] <SuperSonic68223> Ah,
[19:51] <SuperSonic68223> Alright!
[19:51] <JackSprat> Anyone familiar with lipango problems?
[19:56] <bazhang> JackSprat, what exactly is lipango
[19:56] <JackSprat> Well I am having problems with restarting and getting a blank desktop and no menus (I use 10.04 LTS)
[19:56] <JackSprat> when I try to use 'nautilus &' it kicks out an error about lipangocairo
[19:56] <gsms3c> hi. does anyone have any experience with ZFS on ubuntu?
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !zfs
[19:56] <yeats> !info libpangocairo
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> JackSprat, You wont know unless you outline your problem. ;)
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> libpango is a PERL module, is what i read here
[19:57] <JackSprat> I think my essential problem is I had to restart GNOME and now I have a blank desktop and no menu bars with no login when I restart
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> !info libpango-perl
[19:58] <JackSprat> Odd, I should just be using my regular Western keyboard
[20:00] <JackSprat> restarting gem doesn't solve this problem
[20:08] <bcuraboy> hey guys.i dont know if i'm the only one experiencing this,but when my laptop gets back from suspension,the screen sticks black and nothing happen.
[20:09] <bcuraboy> i'm with a nvidia g105m and the driver that comes by default
[20:11] <superjoe> I'm here to bitch about the changes to nautilus
[20:11] <superjoe> where can I direct my rage
[20:12] <IdleOne> wrong channel, file a bug on launchpad
[20:12] <superjoe> ok
[20:12] <jmagunduni> O_o
[20:13] <renzo> hi all, one quick question: I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, as 13.04 is giving me kernel panics problems due to the new kernel. If I now install the updates to my system, will the new kernel (which is the one giving me problems) install?? Thanks for your replies
[20:14] <brian____> renzo, only if you do a dist-upgrade
 excellent, that was the answer i was looking! thanks man :)
[20:16] <brian____> yep, enjoy
[20:16] <kyleczar8> how do i create a restore point in ubuntu 12.04
[20:18] <kyleczar8> is that possible?
[20:21] <brian____> kyleczar8, I don't believe there is a built in function.  You should only really need to worry about your files.
[20:21] <BluesKaj> kyleczar8, don't know of any such method in linux , but if you keep a regular backup of your files that should be sufficient . Unless you have a differnt issue that you think a regression might help
[20:21] <bazhang> KyleYankan, in Disks, you can make a disk image
[20:22] <bazhang> err kyleczar8^
[20:22] <bazhang> apologies KyleYankan
[20:22] <KyleYankan> ha, was really confused
[20:22] <KyleYankan> No worries
[20:22] <brian____> KyleYankan,  I personally use http://redobackup.org/ if I ever feel like im about to do something dangerous...
[20:23] <bazhang> brian____, yeah he's gone
[20:24] <BluesKaj> another case where instant gratification wasn't available , so he left
[20:24] <bazhang> it is available to a degree in the Disks utility though
[20:26] <brian____> bazhang, I'm rather slow, I'm glad you mentioned something, I would most likely still be talking to him.
[20:26] <bazhang> probably lag , on my part too brian____
[20:28] <Dr_willis> the internet is slow today. ;)
[20:28] <brian____> I think I am going to give up on these adapters..  I have 2 usb wifi adapters that I can smash with a hammer, who would have thought, two off the shelf could be such a pain in the ass.
[20:29] <ThomasF> Hi. I want to patch a kernel driver, how can I get the source into /usr/src/ i.e. what package provides it (Linux version 3.5.0-17-generic (buildd@allspice) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-2ubuntu1) ) )
[20:29] <Dr_willis> i got about 3 usb adaptors - work out of the box with no hassles. :) i read the online reviews at amazon befor i bought them
[20:29] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[20:31] <eristikophiles> so i'm looking at the HighCPU troubleshooting page and it has suggestions for figuring out what is causing the high CPU load (by X server) .. anyone know of any commonplace programs that might be doing it? (before i try to randomly shut things off to see whether that helps)?
[20:32] <brian____> Dr_willis, Yeah, I've never had problems, didn't know there was still devices that didn't 'just work'.  One of the ones is a Linksys/Cisco AE2500 and the other is a Netgear WNA1000M which uses the RTL8912CU module.  I've gone backwards now.  The Netgear wanted to work just couldn't negogiate the connection, so I used the mfg drivers, blacklisted the built in modules and now it doesnt detect my device at all when I plug it in
[20:32] <brian____> , yet the 8192cu module is loaded.
[20:32] <bazhang> eristikophiles, in htop or top
[20:32] <eristikophiles> also, my box is kind of old.. how do i know if it's actually normally and my box is just handling it badly / taking longer to re-normalize, relative to like, it actually being too high a CPU use?
[20:32] <eristikophiles> htop
[20:33] <brian____> I'm pretty sure I've read every page on the entire internet that applies to the rtl8192 module.
[20:37] <JackSprat> I have a blank desktop (no icons, no menu bar, no login box) and can't get X to start with 'startx' it give me an error that Server is already active for display 0
[20:37] <jazzkutya> hi
[20:37] <jazzkutya> how can i check what updates were installed today?
[20:38] <tgm4883> jazzkutya, /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:38] <Neytiri> hi i installed 12.4, and instlled the gnomeshell and gnome tweark tool, how can i get the toolbarwith all the launchers on the bottom of my screan
[20:38] <jazzkutya> tgm4883: thanks!
[20:40] <adamk> JackSprat: Check your users ~/.xsession-errors file to see if there are any errors reported for your blank desktop.
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Neytiri, There is a translucent panel in the shell that shows opened apps, I use the cairo dock additionally
[20:40] <JackSprat> adamk, how do I do that?
[20:41] <w30> you used to  need gnome panel installed; its been a while since I did that
[20:41] <WXZ1> how can I tile a group of windows horizontally for lucid?
[20:41] <adamk> Drop to a console, login, and run 'less ~/.xsession-errors'
[20:41] <adamk> Or use pastebinit to pastebin the full log file.
[20:43] <JackSprat> adamk, wowzers, I think I have a lot of errors but not sure where to start. I have no access to my GUI
[20:45] <adamk> JackSprat: So pastebin it and give us the URL.
[20:46] <JackSprat> I am only in terminal so I don't have a mouse to select it. Is there another way to capture it?
[20:47] <WXZ1> how can I tile a group of windows for lucid?
[20:47] <adamk> JackSprat: Use pastebinit.
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> !tile
[20:48] <WXZ1> ~tile
[20:48] <WXZ1> nope
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> WXZ1, YOu will probably have to look on the web there are desktops that do this, not sure really.
[20:49] <WXZ1> wilee-nilee: yeah, tiling window managers, but changing my entire DE should not be the solution for such a simple problem
[20:49] <JackSprat> adamk, I went to download pastebinit but for some reason my network is not turned on. Not sure why though...
[20:50] <melodie> hi
[20:50] <JackSprat> Gods this is turning into a headache
[20:50] <melodie> does someone have knowledge about service management in the last versions produced since last year ? It looks like a mess to me and I would need help on the matter
[20:51]  * melodie hands an aspirin to JackSprat 
[20:51] <JackSprat> thanks melodie
[20:52] <JackSprat> even if I restart in recovery mode and select netroot, I can't connect to the network, any suggestions?
[20:53] <melodie> yes
[20:53] <adamk> Sorry, not really up on networking and NetworkManager on Ubuntu. More of an X guy myself.
[20:53] <melodie> try "sudo dhclient <your network interface>"
[20:53] <melodie> exemple: sudo dhclient eth0
[20:53] <JackSprat> once I get pastebinit adam I will certainly come back to you
[20:53] <Neytiri> ok, take 2, i am running 12.4, using the gnome classic desktop enviroment, i have genome-tweak-tool, gnome-pannel, gnome-shell and all dependencies installed, how can i get the bar at the top of my screen to be at the botom
[20:54] <melodie> JackSprat try as I just said
[20:54] <melodie> easy and has chances to work
[20:54] <melodie> JackSprat are you on ethernet or on wifi ?
[20:54] <JackSprat> ethernet
[20:54] <gottwisst> neytiri: Have a look at the tweak tool and gnome pannel
[20:54] <gottwisst> sorry
[20:54] <gottwisst> the tweak tool
[20:55] <JackSprat> one sec I (foolishly) attempt to start GNOME and now terminal is unresponsive to me, lemme restart
[20:55] <gottwisst> neytiri: Also, try right clicking on the pannel and seeing if any options come up
[20:55] <CorvusCorax> Hi. I had ubuntu installed on a laptop. now the harddisk made problems, and I installed a new one and made a binary 1 to 1 copy of the system to the new harddisk, which used to work flawlessly on linux. however ubuntu uses deviceID's in grub config and - it seems - in a few other places too. What do I need to do to tell the system to adapt to the new harddisk id it is now running on?
[20:55] <melodie> JackSprat you just hit the keys : Ctrl+Alt+F1 and you will get a virtual console : tty
[20:56] <Neytiri> i tried the tweak tool and right licking
[20:56] <melodie> and you connect as you, and your login name
[20:56] <JackSprat> even that was working melodie, I was get [[A and what not
[20:56] <melodie> JackSprat then you can send commands
[20:56] <melodie> JackSprat then Ctrl+Alt+F7 or F8 brings you back to the gui console
[20:56] <gottwisst> neytiri: I'll just hop on to gnome classic and have a look myself - brb
[20:57] <JackSprat> okay, I attempted 'dhclient eth0'
[20:57] <eristikophiles> bazhang- hah. i just realized you were answering saying to use htop or top. i thought you were asking which i used to figure this out
[20:57] <JackSprat> Output is: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[20:57] <eristikophiles> i have so many random X-related things running in htop that take up all the slots on my screen
[20:58] <JackSprat> eth0: Error while getting interface flags: No such device
[20:58] <JackSprat> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[20:59] <eristikophiles> if i pageup pagedown and look at the full list in htop, btw, it shows that about nothing is running that uses anything significant at all
[20:59] <eristikophiles> and the biggest thing that is running, not at all this way? xchat
[21:00] <eristikophiles> it's mostly using memory though
 eth0: Error while getting interface flags: No such device // look at ifconfig which interface is up
[21:00] <eristikophiles> and 30% of memory (biggest by a long shot) is X .. as is the biggest CPU
[21:00] <melodie> else you do sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[21:00] <gottwisst> neytiri: my computer isnt actually displaying the pannel properly
[21:00] <melodie> JackSprat else you do "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[21:00] <gottwisst> neytiri: But I also am not getting any options for that
[21:00] <melodie> courage !
[21:00] <Neytiri> kk, so it inst just me
[21:00] <gottwisst> neytiri: That option may not have been in gnome classic
[21:01] <Neytiri> i had it what way on my 11.10 system befor ei nuked it
[21:01] <gottwisst> neytiri: I know that cinnamon, linux mints default, does have that option
[21:01] <asunnO> What are the key differences between debian and ubuntu
[21:01] <gottwisst> neytiri: I cinnamon is quite like gnome 2, I think
[21:01] <JackSprat> I have heart. 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' gave me "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[21:02] <asunnO> jacksprat i have also gotten that error with an eth cable plugged in, have you tried restarting
[21:02] <Neytiri> last time i tried it it hated it but its worh another look
[21:02] <JackSprat> just 'ifconfig' gave me "Local Loopback: inet addr: of 127.0.0.1"
[21:02] <gottwisst> I've also heard that maté is very like gnome 2
[21:02] <gottwisst> but I've not tried that
[21:02] <JackSprat> yes have been restarting a bunch Neytiri with no luck
[21:03] <tavvva1> Hello guys ...
[21:03] <asunnO> did you try unity
[21:03] <asunnO> booting into unity
[21:03] <JackSprat> I have 10.04 LTS so I pre-Unity
[21:03] <tavvva1> Is the xserver-xorg-video-mach64_6.9.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb maintainer here?
[21:03] <gottwisst> Neytiri: That's about all I can help. I'm out.
[21:05] <coder2> anybody http://askubuntu.com/q/288759/121938
[21:05] <Texas> clean your heatsink coder2
[21:06] <asunnO> can neone explain me the key differences in ubuntu from debian
[21:06] <coder2> Texas, you mean the fan?
[21:06] <JackSprat> any other that would be helpful melodie?
[21:07] <commandocoding> Irssi 0.8.15 (20100403) - http://irssi.org/
[21:07] <tavvva1> nobody? xserver-xorg-video-mach64_6.9.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[21:07] <melodie> JackSprat the command ifconfig
[21:08] <Neytiri> i'll give cinamon a look
[21:08] <coder2> asunnO, first go and learn some english ,please do not use chat language here
[21:08] <melodie> JackSprat the command ifconfig will tell you if there is "eth0" or "eth1" or "eth2" or "wlan0" additionnally to "lo"
[21:08] <Neytiri> but i have one othre question
[21:08] <melodie> as interface
[21:08] <Neytiri> how can i make it so my /ert/resolv.conf file stopes getting over written
[21:08] <asunnO> thats rude
[21:08] <JackSprat> "Link hmm, i see "lo" as the only interface
[21:09] <JackSprat> I don't see any thing else
[21:09] <jakey> I had an ubdate on ubuntu now the resize of the screen is to big or to small and before it fitted very well?
[21:10] <melodie> JackSprat try this " sudo iconfig eth0 up"
[21:10] <moppers> asunno, the first thing you will notice, ubuntu has a unique desktop interface
[21:10] <melodie> no
[21:10] <melodie> JackSprat try this " sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[21:10] <melodie> missed the "f" sorry
[21:10] <moppers> can i ask about backup software? what are people using?
[21:10] <moppers> how good is dejadjup?
[21:11] <JackSprat> I get "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: NO such device"
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> moppers, I clone and use grsync.
[21:11] <melodie> moppers I use mc, but you can use grsync or luckybackup or...
[21:11] <HRH_H_Crab> so i've upgraded to 13.04 and i can't log in to anything. X seems to be working but lightdm displays a black screen. gdm draws a background but has no widgets or text entry field i can actually log in to. i guess ive destroyed any chance i have of running gnome 2 again, but can anyone help me to fix my display manager so that i have some sort of working gui? id "happily" accept unity at the moment.
[21:12] <melodie> JackSprat what is the ethernet card in your machine ?
[21:12] <genii-around> JackSprat: Does: ifconfig -a      show anything besides lo ?
[21:12] <moppers> grsync is a gui for rsync?
[21:12] <melodie> JackSprat look with the command : "lspci | grep Ethernet"
[21:12] <melodie> moppers yes
[21:12] <moppers> what is mc?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> HRH_H_Crab, If you need graphic drivers they need to be redone in a upgrade.
[21:12] <JackSprat> Oh goodness, melodie, no clue. The computer is about 2 years old and was working fine. I just use it to run my bioinformatics software
[21:12] <melodie> moppers a text curse like file manager
[21:13] <HRH_H_Crab> wilee-nilee: i think graphics drivers are working
[21:13] <moppers> ok
[21:13] <melodie> JackSprat
[21:13] <melodie> JackSprat look with the command : "lspci | grep Ethernet"
[21:13] <moppers> oh midnight commander?
[21:13] <HRH_H_Crab> im looking at the lovely peach and purple swirly background
[21:13] <JackSprat> ifconfig -a just shows "lo"
[21:13] <HRH_H_Crab> there is just no gui widgets.
[21:13] <melodie> JackSprat I just told you what to do !
[21:13] <melodie> JackSprat look with the command : "lspci | grep Ethernet"
[21:13] <moppers> i remember midnight commander, yes
[21:13] <HRH_H_Crab> i think its because my dm session was "gnome classic" and thats been killed off or something.
[21:14] <moppers> as for media? are hard drives fine? I need three, and rotate them?
[21:14] <commandocoding> exit
[21:14] <genii-around> melodie: I suspect lshw -C network  will show no drivers loaded for whatever devices lspci shows
[21:14] <moppers> tape drive seems very expensive
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> HRH_H_Crab, If the drivers before the update were ones you installed you have to redo them.
[21:14] <jakey> anyone
[21:14] <melodie> genii-around good idea too
[21:14] <commandocoding> lol Sorry folks new to irssi that was supposed to be a command
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> upgrade*
[21:15] <melodie> genii-around can you continue helping JackSprat ? I must go afk
[21:15] <tttb> anyone know a good clipboard history utility?
[21:15] <HRH_H_Crab> wilee-nilee: i was not using proprietory drivers if thats what you mean.
[21:15] <JackSprat> lspci with Ethernet shows nothing, but lspci on its own also doesn't list my card
[21:15] <melodie> JackSprat if your card is not seen, then either it's dead or unplugged
[21:16] <JackSprat> hmm
[21:16] <kyleczar8> does anyone have any tips for a new ubuntu user.... currently running Ubuntu 12.04 lts and didnt know if there were any tweaks or tips that someone could recommend
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> HRH_H_Crab, Yep that's what I Mean. ;)
[21:16] <lemin> Hh
[21:17] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: you get login screen
[21:17] <HRH_H_Crab> i get the coloured background of the login screen
[21:17] <HRH_H_Crab> and i get a cursor that tracks the mouse perfectly
[21:17] <HRH_H_Crab> but other than that,
[21:17] <HRH_H_Crab> its a barren featureless desert
[21:17] <HRH_H_Crab> nothing to type my username in
[21:18] <HRH_H_Crab> no buttons to click
[21:18] <Neytiri> how can i make it so my /ect/resolv.conf file stopes getting over written on startup
[21:18] <JackSprat> HRH_H_Crab, I also have that problem
[21:18] <HRH_H_Crab> thats if i use gdm
[21:18] <HRH_H_Crab> if i use lightdm its black...
[21:18] <kyleczar8> does anyone know how to create a restore point or anything similar in ubuntu 12.04
[21:18] <HRH_H_Crab> black like a ravens wing
[21:19] <nodie> hi
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> kyleczar8  backup
[21:19] <nodie> I'm experiencing a strange problem: my mouse pointer disappear every time I enter into a QT/KDE window
[21:20] <kyleczar8> holy shit.. i feel stupid
[21:20] <kyleczar8> thanks monkey
[21:20] <nodie> do you know what could it be? I'm getting crazy
[21:20] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: start in terminal then SUDO APT-GET INSTALL GDM.
[21:21] <HRH_H_Crab> which is already installed...
[21:21] <nodie> I tried to reinstall all the Xorg/qt/gtk packages but still have the same proble
[21:21] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: then try instal lightdm
[21:21] <HRH_H_Crab> which is already installed
[21:22] <HRH_H_Crab> i'll humour you though
[21:22] <HRH_H_Crab> just for the heck of it
[21:22] <HRH_H_Crab> and uninstall / reinstall gdm
[21:22] <HRH_H_Crab> and see what that gets me.
[21:22] <minetape> Hello there, when i was using my live installation on ubuntu on a USB thumb drive, i decided to reboot the computer without rebooting into ubuntu, but after the black screen, it looked like it was booting up again. so i pressed CRTL+ALT+DEL and it went back to booting the original installation on the computer. Would the installation be broken? or is it still usable?
[21:22] <minetape> by this "Would the installation be broken? or is it still usable?" i mean the live installation
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> minetape  it's either live or an installation
[21:23] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: no worky.
[21:23] <minetape> its live
[21:23] <minetape> but is it still usable?
[21:23] <llldino> Hey guys im having serious trouble booting from grub, I can only boot in nomodeset
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> minetape  yes
[21:23] <BluesKaj> HRH_H_Crab, are you dropping to a tty , stopping lightdm and doing a startx ?
[21:23] <minetape> sweet :3
[21:23] <HRH_H_Crab> lets try lightdm
[21:24] <minetape> Time to turn evil and boot it on the library PCs...
[21:24] <HRH_H_Crab> BluesKaj: im using ssh
[21:24] <minetape> MWAHAHAHA
[21:24] <HRH_H_Crab> and im doing /etc/init.d/gdm restart after uninstall / reinstalling
[21:24] <Dr_willis> sudo service lightdm restart
[21:24] <Dr_willis> or sudo service gdm restart
[21:24] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: ctrl-alt-f8 reinstall lightdm
[21:25] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: reinstalling lightdm now over ssh
[21:25] <HRH_H_Crab> no display manager / Xorg currently running
[21:25] <HRH_H_Crab> will start it once install is done and report back
[21:26] <HRH_H_Crab> right its done dpkg-lightdm reconfigure or whatever
[21:26] <CorvusCorax> Hi. I had to move my ubuntu system to another harddrive, now the partition ids changed and it doesnt boot. where do i need to change them so auto-updates will not reset them?
[21:26] <HRH_H_Crab> ive told it i want to *shudder* use lightdm
[21:26] <JackSprat> HRH_H_Crab I just had this happen to me and I am using 10.04 LTS pre-Unity
[21:26] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[21:26] <HRH_H_Crab> will now start it and see what happens
[21:26] <jakey> anyone have experience magento cms?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> llldino, And you have checked all the driver options? You can insert nomodeset in the grub menu using gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" To GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset quiet splash" tehnrun sudo update-grub
[21:27] <HRH_H_Crab> JackSprat: although im fuming like crazy, this is perhaps the least destructive ubuntu upgrade ive experienced yet. at least it didnt hose grub or X totally!
[21:27] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: uninstalling / restarting lightdm hasnt worked im afraid.
[21:27] <HRH_H_Crab> just gives me a black screen.
[21:28] <JackSprat> I didn't even upgrade…it just died on me and I am a HUGE noob…and this is for my job!! Christ
[21:28] <llldino> wilee-nilee, What do you mean check the driver options? I'm in nomodeset right now
[21:28] <HRH_H_Crab> im 99% sure that what i am experiencing is punishment for using classic gnome.
[21:28] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: are you using nvidia card.
[21:28] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: no.
[21:28] <CorvusCorax> ati?
[21:28] <HRH_H_Crab> im using an ati card with free drivers
[21:28] <Dr_willis> I dont see how your selected desktop affects lightdm at all
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> llldino, There is an additional drivers option if you need any.
[21:29] <HRH_H_Crab> n.b. i am NOT using the proprietory drivesr
[21:29] <HRH_H_Crab> n.b. when i use gdm i see the classic ubuntu peach and purple background and i have a fully functional cursor
[21:29] <llldino> wilee-nilee, I already installed a driver for my nvida gforce 9400m this morning, it didn't help the issue
[21:29] <Daemoen> hey guys, anyone know why on ubuntu 10.04, I can edit /etc/group, add a user to a group, and it gets completely ignored ?
[21:29] <HRH_H_Crab> so i am pretty damn sure that Xorg is relatively healthy.
[21:30] <CorvusCorax> Daemoen, for a group change to have effect the user in question needs to spawn a new shell - aka re-login
[21:30] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab:  ctrl-alt-f1 then sudok
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> llldino, Cool, I was just giving you the option to not have to get in with typing nomodeset everytime at grub, it can be removed if you find what is needed to not use it.
[21:30] <Daemoen> CorvusCorax: i can su to root and su - <user> and it isnt showing up in groups
[21:30] <Daemoen> su - user does spawn a new process
[21:31] <CorvusCorax> true, that should work
[21:31] <Dr_willis> try 'login username' perhaps?  or test it in the console.
[21:31] <CorvusCorax> does it work when u use the addgroup cmdline program?
[21:31] <llldino> wilee-nilee, I don't want to be in nomodeset, the graphics are messed up, I just want my computer to boot properly
[21:31] <Daemoen> one sec let me test addgrp method
[21:31] <CorvusCorax> might be some pam-issue, pam can do a lot of weird things
[21:32] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: got cut off. Sorry. Sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> llldino, Right, however you complained about grub and having to use nomodeset.
[21:32] <CorvusCorax> i had to move my ubuntu to a new harddisk, device ids changed. where do i need to set them? i assume /etc/defaults/grub, maybe in fstab. where else?
[21:32] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: as stated before, that starts gdm
[21:32] <llldino> wilee-nilee, I was just saying I can only boot into nomodeset and not into "regular" mode
[21:32] <Daemoen> no addgrp in 10.04 that i can see
[21:32] <CorvusCorax> is there an automated way to update them all?
[21:33] <HRH_H_Crab> the problem is that all gdm does is display the clasic ubuntu background and a mouse pointer.
[21:33] <HRH_H_Crab> it lacks any buttons to click or any text field to enter a username or password...
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> llldino, I understand, hope you get it fixed. ;)
[21:33] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: maybe you can try grubrepair
[21:33] <dfx> hello guys can someone tell me how to get status bar in dwm i've followed many guids but nothing works im on wheezy
[21:33] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: or what was its name,,,
[21:33] <Sysaxed> dfx: wheezy? #debian
[21:33] <llldino> wilee-nilee, I hope I do too before I break something more expensive
[21:34] <CorvusCorax> Sysaces, thanx ill try that
[21:34] <CorvusCorax> Daemoen, the program ur seeking is groupmems
[21:34] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: this is something different, but it could work well for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:34] <Dr_willis> llldino,  i normally have to use nomodeset the first time,  then install the nvidia drivers.  that is your video card?
[21:35] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: most likely automatic repair will work for you :)
[21:35] <llldino> Dr_willis, yes Gforce 9400m, I installed the drivers this morning via Xorg
[21:35] <dfx> Sysaxed: yeh im on wheezy but its based on it so not so much diffrent i guess
[21:35] <Loshki> CorvusCorax: Daemoen: I think you have to logout the user and relogin to see group changes, it's not enough to just spawn a new shell. I can't explain why, however....
[21:35] <llldino> Dr_willis, I don't get it though, everything was fine yesterday this just started today and I didn't do anything major
[21:36] <CorvusCorax> thanks Sysaxed that might work. is there a way to spawn the automatic repair without a boot cd - from the installed system itself?
[21:36] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: well, if you can't boot it, how could you run something from it? :)
[21:36] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: running a live cd is easy
[21:36] <CorvusCorax> i can boot by overriding the root partition directive on the kernel cmdline - root=/dev/sdaX
[21:36] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: most probably you already have ubuntu cd
[21:37] <HRH_H_Crab> just to confirm that there is nothing wrong with my graphics card drivers, ive just shut off gdm and done "start x"
[21:37] <sdglsdgkjgda> My touchpad left click stops working after a while on my laptop, and is only fixed by a reboot. What could be going on?
[21:37] <CorvusCorax> in fact i dont, i'd have to download one and burn it ;)
[21:37] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: oh, if you can boot then its ok for you
[21:37] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: sudo apt-get install lightdm-gtk-greeter
[21:37] <HRH_H_Crab> that gives me a white screen with a working mouse pointer which even spawns a context menu when i right click it
[21:37] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: I can't think of anything else that you must change. If everything works then you're alright
[21:37] <Dr_willis> HRH_H_Crab,  you dont have 2 monitors hooked up do you? I recall once gdm/lightdm showing the login info on the wrong monitor for me (which i had turned off)
[21:37] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: no.
[21:38] <Daemoen> Loshki: i actually did fully logout.  i also just found /etc/gshadow and made it match the proper formatting for the group in question, just in case thats the file its really using.  doesnt matter which file i modify, its ignoring both /etc/group and /etc/gshadow
[21:38] <CorvusCorax> i just found out that if i change /boot/grub/bla.cfg then the next apt-get upgrade that installs a kernel will override it and put the old values back
[21:38] <jakey> I had an ubdate on ubuntu now the resize of the screen is to big or to small and before it fitted very well?
[21:38] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: some time ago I had ubuntu installed on usb drive, and device id changed every time I plugged it in another computer, all I had to do was to change grub options and everything else worked without any other changes
[21:38] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: o.k. trying that.
[21:38] <CorvusCorax> so ubuntu stores the device ids it has been installed on somewhere, likeky /etc/defaults
[21:38] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: no-no
[21:38] <HRH_H_Crab> it wants to install it and it seems like something i should have so maybe this will work...
[21:39] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: you must change grub configs correctly
[21:39] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: did you run grub-update?
[21:39] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: update-grub *
[21:39] <darthsitius> What does the "daemon" user in ubuntu used for?
[21:39] <CorvusCorax> no yet, currently running knoppix livecds to resize some partitions
[21:39] <CorvusCorax> ill run that
[21:39] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: interesting.
[21:39] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: there are some grub files that are generated automatically, you shouldn't touch them
[21:39] <HRH_H_Crab> an amusing "improvement"
[21:40] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: dr_willis may have a point. Can you see mouse pointer
[21:40] <HRH_H_Crab> lemin: yes.
[21:40] <HRH_H_Crab> thats all.
[21:40] <HRH_H_Crab> lightdm is no longer a black screen!
[21:40] <Sysaxed> CorvusCorax: you should edit config files and then run update-grub :) google it
[21:40] <moppers> I am trying to use mc in unity: how do i get the alt key working to use the dropdown menu?
[21:40] <HRH_H_Crab> its now a black screen with a white X!
[21:40] <HRH_H_Crab> i only have one monitor
[21:41] <lemin> HRH_H_Crab: black with white x?
[21:41] <HRH_H_Crab> black background
[21:41] <HRH_H_Crab> white X mouse pointer.
[21:41] <HRH_H_Crab> well
[21:41] <HRH_H_Crab> its got a white outline
[21:41] <HRH_H_Crab> you know what i mean.
[21:42] <Dr_willis> sounds like X is starting but whatever binarys are for lightdm are not.
[21:42] <schultza> why is pastebinit no longer working?
[21:42] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: i dont think its a problem with any binaries at all.
[21:42] <HRH_H_Crab> im almost certain that the display managers are trying to start classic gnome
[21:43] <HRH_H_Crab> which has been axed in the face
[21:43] <Dr_willis> HRH_H_Crab,  you have auto login enabled for that user?
[21:43] <HRH_H_Crab> and therefore they don't know / cant start anything useful.
[21:43] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: no.
[21:43] <Loshki> darthsitius: the daemon user is handy for things which run in the background that don't have a 'real' user...
[21:43] <HRH_H_Crab> i should have switched to unity before i did the upgrade /o\
[21:43] <Dr_willis> HRH_H_Crab,  then how can be the DM;s be trying to start classic gnome without you logging in
[21:43] <HRH_H_Crab> oh
[21:43] <HRH_H_Crab> fair point.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> you can select your default desktop in the users .dmrc file
[21:43] <darthsitius> Loshki: And the permissions?
[21:44] <HRH_H_Crab> i wonder what the hell the problem is then.
[21:44] <Dr_willis> i think you can go to the console. kill X and any DMs running and do 'sudo lightdm' and it SHould show error/info messages in the console
[21:46] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: how the hell do i get a console up?
[21:46] <MikeH> Is there a more in depth way to see what processes/kernel modules are using memory than top? I currently have 6GB in use (- buffers) but in top the highest memory usage is 2.2%, with the rest hovering between 0.1 and 1% - certainly not enough to account for 6gb out of 8
[21:46] <HRH_H_Crab> ctrl-alt-f(whatever) doesn't work.
[21:46] <jakey> I had an update on ubuntu now the resizing of the screen dimentions is to big or to small and before it fitted very well?
[21:46] <Loshki> darthsitius: not sure what you're asking; it's a user whose uid is 1 and whose gid is 1. Logins are disabled for user 'daemon'.
[21:47] <darthsitius> Loshki: Thanks!
[21:47] <CorvusCorax> Sysaxed, update-gru did it :-)) thanks
[21:47] <Dr_willis> HRH_H_Crab,  you might want to try booting into Text mode. if the framebuffer consoles are not working. Ive seen them not work for specific res's on some hardware. or video drivers goof them up
[21:47] <Dr_willis> !text
[21:48] <HRH_H_Crab> cool
[21:48] <HRH_H_Crab> ill try that
[21:48] <HRH_H_Crab> thanks
[21:48] <maxwel> Hello can someone help me
[21:48] <CorvusCorax> can ubuntu be installed using lilo instead of grub ?
[21:49] <CorvusCorax> ;)
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> maxwel, Not with out a description. ;)
[21:49] <CorvusCorax> maxwel mayyybe
[21:49] <Dr_willis> CorvusCorax,  ive heard of it being done.. but i dont think its very useable
[21:49] <atrus> MikeH: check the "free" command. It may indicate that a lot of memory is used just for buffers, and not actually by any process. which is fine. it's just sitting there in case it's needed, but will be discarded immediately if the memory is needed for something else.
[21:49] <maxwel> For some reason I have to have it in old ubuntu shell for it to be fast can someone tell me why ?
[21:49] <llldino> Ok so I attempted to install nvida drivers, they're up to date
[21:49] <Dr_willis> 'old ubuntu shell' ?
[21:49] <MikeH> atrus: As I say, 6gb is in use minus buffers.
[21:50] <maxwel> Yes ubuntu classic
[21:50] <llldino> When I try and update grup, it says "Mas OS X" found on /dev/sda2
[21:50] <maxwel> I have 16gbs of ram an i7 3.80 gh
[21:50] <atrus> MikeH: ah, so you did, missed that. out of ideas here.
[21:50] <maxwel> 120SSD and a 2 tb hdd
[21:50] <maxwel> and a 650 ti ssc gpu
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> yee old ubuntu classic
[21:51] <jakey> I had an update on ubuntu now the resizing of the screen dimentions is to big or to small and before it fitted very well?
[21:54] <CorvusCorax> ok while im in the channel anyway im upgrading to 13.04
[21:54] <CorvusCorax> that way i can buggr you if it goes horribly wrong
[21:54] <CorvusCorax> >:>>>
[21:54] <ninoz> hi my grub2 is not booting the first entry despite the defaults/grub file having the timeout set to 2 and running update-grub
[21:55]  * Daemoen learns a new lesson.
[21:55] <Daemoen> changing /etc/group directly in ubuntu seems to get ignored.... should be using vigr XD
[21:55] <Daemoen> lesson learned :)
[21:55]  * Daemoen waves
[21:55] <HRH_H_Crab> ugh
[21:56] <HRH_H_Crab> this is a nightmare. neither shift or esc seems to do anything
[21:57] <CorvusCorax> i had that once, turned out the bios wasnt detecting the usb keyboard, so no keys were working in the post process, including bootloader, only once the kernel was loaded did keys work
[21:57] <Loshki> Daemoen: a reboot would've fixed it :-)
[21:57] <CorvusCorax> THAT sucked
[21:57] <HRH_H_Crab> yeah
[21:57] <HRH_H_Crab> my keyboard is a bluetooth usb thing
[21:57] <llldino> Yknow screw 13.04 im putting in LTS
[21:57] <HRH_H_Crab> so i guess thats why.
[21:58] <aubreychao> he
[21:58] <HRH_H_Crab> oh...
[21:58] <HRH_H_Crab> this is intredasting
[21:58] <HRH_H_Crab> i just did apt-get install gnome and it wants to install a whole heap of stuff.
[21:58] <HRH_H_Crab> that might somehow jolt the various display managers into life as some peculiar side-effect
[21:59] <aubreychao> good morning
[22:00] <CorvusCorax> normally im using gentoo, ubuntu is for my wife since she needs something low maintenance
[22:00] <CorvusCorax> she used to be a mac user :)
[22:02] <cyrano_> X keeps crashing when i launch chrome or steam. I'm not sure what I might have done recently that could have caused this. I'm currently running precise.
[22:03] <Fishscene1> Is it possible to install "libudev0:i386" on Ubuntu 13.04 x64?
[22:04] <Fishscene1> The VMware View client depends on this package. But I get an error saying: Depends:  libudev0:i386 (>= 147) but it is not installable
[22:05] <fyksen> I have just bought game de tycoon. Installed the .deb from the link I got. When I try to run it I get:  error while loading shared libraries: libXrandr.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:09] <n-iCe> what would be the best way to install ubuntu 13.04 with gnome2? installing ubuntu server then gnome, or installing ubuntu 13.04 plain install and remove unity etc
[22:09] <trism> fyksen: it is in libxrandr2, which you probably should have by default...if you are on the 64bit version you may need libxrandr2:i386
[22:10] <Ponch0> how do I check what login manager I'm running?
[22:10] <n-iCe> hi Ponch0
[22:10] <Ponch0> hi n-iCe
[22:11] <n-iCe> Ponch0: whay does echo $DESKTOP_SESSION say
[22:11] <lix> good evening. my NetworkManager does not consider the DNS IPs entered using PPTP config. Is this still an unresolved issue/bug? http://robert-oswald.rodom.dyndns.org/blog/?p=797
[22:11] <Ponch0> gnome
[22:11] <fyksen> trism, TY, but now I get another error: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:11] <n-iCe> Ponch0: that is :)
[22:12] <Ponch0> hmm, I didn't know that, I thought it was either lightdm or gdm?
[22:12] <cyrano_> n-Ice: I don't thin that is what Pncho was looking for.
[22:12] <ewfr> пыщь пыщь!
[22:13] <schultza> has pastebinit been updated?
[22:13] <n-iCe> if you run gnome usually is gdm which means gnome display manager Ponch0
[22:13] <sinusss> hi. Why won't my amazon EC2 instance that was created from my AMI wont run? I get this: Instance reachability check failed at 2013-05-01 10:03 GMT+1200
[22:13] <Ponch0> thank you :)
[22:13] <schultza> !pastebinit
[22:13] <trism> fyksen: libgtk2.0-0
[22:13] <ewfr> WHITE POWER!!! WHITE POWER RANGER!!!
[22:14] <n-iCe> Ponch0: just to be sure, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[22:14] <tttb> i need someone to make a "why you should use vim" youtube video displaying quickly and efficiently  great things you can do on it that you can't in other editors
[22:14] <n-iCe> what would be the best way to install ubuntu 13.04 with gnome2? installing ubuntu server then gnome, or installing ubuntu 13.04 plain install and remove unity etc
[22:14] <Myrtti> n-iCe: with gnome2?
[22:14] <fyksen> trism, I already have it installed.
[22:14] <n-iCe> Myrtti: yes
[22:14] <Myrtti> n-iCe: you do know there is no sane way of getting gnome2
[22:14] <Myrtti> right?
[22:14] <trism> fyksen: again, probably the :i386 version
[22:14] <n-iCe> no gnome3, no unity, no kde, no xfce
[22:14] <Ponch0> n-iCe: it is indeed GDM, thank you.
[22:15] <n-iCe> Ponch0: no problem.
[22:15] <n-iCe> Myrtti: why you say that
[22:15] <Dr_willis> gnome-shell 3.8 has its own gnome-2 look fallback mode.. that most likely will be the 'standard' gnome2 way in the future
[22:15] <trism> fyksen: if you get another error after that, pastebin: ldd /path/to/gamedevbinary; and I'll work out a list of packages
[22:15] <Myrtti> n-iCe: because gnome2 is no supported by the GNOME project itself anymore. They've moved over to Gnome3.
[22:15] <n-iCe> what about GNOME Fallback
[22:16] <fyksen> trism, thanks. I still get an error .its libasoung.so.2 How do I check what package I need?
[22:16] <GunArm> so I'm trying to come up with a data storage plan for my data, theres about 10tb of it.  Write speeds aren't hugely important.  I'm thinking of for my primary using a raid10 of 10x2tb drives, and a secondary raid6 of 6x2tb drives.  any thoughts?
[22:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/new-classic-mode-forking-gnome-3-waste-time
[22:17] <trism> fyksen: since you likely have most of those libs already as the amd64 version, you could just do: dpkg -S libasound.so.2; and it will give you the package name, then install the :i386 version
[22:18] <fyksen> trism, hmm I get this: sudo dpkg -S libasound.so.2
[22:18] <fyksen> libasound2:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2.0.0
[22:18] <fyksen> libasound2:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2
[22:18] <sduncan> can anyone offer some advice for getting an ubuntu installation up and running on a macbook pro 6,2? I've been at this for hours trying everything I can find. I can boot in recovery, get a shell and startx ... but booting normally either yields an empty purple screen or just a blank screen. I can't seem to get any verbose boot output
[22:18] <trism> fyksen: so in that case you would install libasound2:i386
[22:19] <n-iCe> Myrtti: ubuntu-desktop
[22:19] <sduncan> i should mention I'm working with 12.04
[22:19] <n-iCe> Myrtti: I read it is gnome2
[22:19] <Myrtti> n-iCe: in 13.04? no.
[22:20] <n-iCe> Myrtti: what's gonna install
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> n-iCe  it's gnome3, but it *looks* like gnome2
[22:20] <Myrtti> n-iCe: Ubuntu with Gnome3 and Unity.
[22:20] <n-iCe> I think I'm gonna install ubuntu-server 12.04 lts
[22:20] <n-iCe> unity
[22:20] <n-iCe> uhm
[22:21] <GunArm> really 13.04 ships with gnome3 instead of unity?
[22:21] <Myrtti> GunArm: unity *is* built on gnome3
[22:21] <chilicuil> hello, I want to know the packages where are the dependencies of a binary, I've heard that dpkg-shlibdeps should work, but it requires that I configure my system as if I'd want to create deb pkgs
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> GunArm  unity is a gnome3 shell
[22:21] <GunArm> did not know that
[22:21] <shortstraw8> So I just downloaded something and went to view it and noticed that their is a USR file in there that is locked. It says it is  Adobe flash player, how it ended up here I have no clue. I was wondering where it is supposed to be and how to get it there since it is locked. Running Ubuntu 12.04
[22:22] <user_-> i have ubuntu 12.10 with wubi in internal sata hard disk with windows7 and xubuntu 13.04 in external usb hard disk 80gb and flash disk 4gb
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> user_-  how nice, so how can we help you
[22:24] <user_-> live usb in flash disk using unetbootin
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> user_-  all sounds great, so what's your question?
[22:25] <Ponch0> I have ubuntu gnome-remix 13.04, how would I remove the icons from the top like the "Universal Access Settings" icon?
[22:25] <AlexTheRealOne> Hi all need help
[22:25] <user_-> i want to know which games you take from steam in linux
[22:26] <AlexTheRealOne> Install new ubuntu 13.04 an everytime i try to download something the connection broke what should i do? on win7 the connection was perfekt but i want ubuntu
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> user_-  sounds off-topic to me
[22:27] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: how are you downloading? using a browser?
[22:27] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: what is your connection? wlan? eth?
[22:27] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: what is the network interface? atheros chipset?
[22:28] <user_-> i want browse the wubi virtual disk from windows 7
[22:28] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, 1I try the browser and 2try the software center to install synaptiks but always failed all downloads on half and yes wlan atheros chipset
[22:28] <user_-> i can to browse ext4 file system from windows using total commander and a plugin
[22:28] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: did you install the correct driver for the atheros chipset?
[22:28] <AlexTheRealOne> Yes
[22:28] <user_-> 'diskinternals reader'
[22:29] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: try using a ethernet connection to see if the connection would be stable...
[22:29] <AlexTheRealOne> okay
[22:29] <idname> i installed the nvidia driver from the website but now iam stuck with 640x480 resolution..
[22:29] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: try to find out where a possible problem could be in the first place (wifi card, router, browser, system etc.)
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> user_-  wubi is not made to be used on prodection system
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> production*
[22:30] <trism> chilicuil: you can do it with a bit of ldd and apt-file, I hacked together a quick script for it a while ago: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620717/ (which could probably use much improvement)
[22:30] <Dr_willis> user_-,  on my steam account. when i login to steam on linux. it let me install all the  ones that had linux clients/ports.
[22:30] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, i think its somewhere in system cuz i had a stable connection on win7
[22:30] <Star_Light> hello is there any room with doctors?
[22:30] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: I dont know anything about wind00ze, sorry
[22:30] <idname> what should i do to fix this problem and restore to my native resolution?
[22:31] <Dr_willis> !alis | Star_Light
[22:31] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, okay now its seems like the connection stay safe i downloaded Synaptiks
[22:31] <WXZ> how do I move an entire window group across workspaces
[22:31] <chilicuil> trism: thanks!, I'll look at it
[22:31] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: what if you use aptitude in the command line?
[22:32] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: terminal > "sudo apt-get update" to see if the connection is "stable" there...
[22:32] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, okay try it out now
[22:33] <user_-> AlexTheRealOne bring near wifi adapter with an usb 2.0 cord extension
[22:33] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, hmm have to wait until synaptiks have installed
[22:34] <idname> i installed the nvidia driver from the website but now iam stuck with 640x480 resolution..
[22:34] <invoker> tried to install kernel 3.9, unity not working!!
[22:34] <Dr_willis> idname,  run the nvidia-settings tool and see what res's it lets you change to. also its best to stick to the drivers in the repos
[22:34] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: are you on ethernet connection now?
[22:35] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, no still wlan but now its seems like the connection works well apt-get update works
[22:35] <idname> Dr_willis: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:35] <Dr_willis> idname,  you dont seem to have installed the drivers correctly. or havent rebooted after installing them .
[22:35] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: cool. now use in the terminal: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[22:35] <idname> Dr_willis: i did a reboot
[22:35] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, im on it
[22:35] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: great
[22:36] <Azrael_God> How is everybody doing on this fine day?
[22:36] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: btw are you using 13.04?
[22:36] <balls> so
[22:36] <idname> Dr_willis: can i just go back to my previous state?
[22:36] <balls> how do I change open to single click
[22:36] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, update succesful or something sry for bad english and yes i use 13.04
[22:36] <balls> instead of double
[22:36] <lix> Azrael_God: great! \o/ - you?
[22:36] <UndrWater> i have put an 11.10 image on an ARM device, but having difficulties figuring out how to do admin stuff...sudo asks for the guest password...i've asked in #ubuntu-arm, but it's quite quiet there
[22:36] <idname> Dr_willis: the thing is i have a hybrid gpu
[22:36] <Dr_willis> idname,  I never use the nvidia .run drivers.. I think they have an Uninstall option
[22:36] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: no problem. - what is your native language?
[22:36] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, german
[22:37] <Dr_willis> idname,  if its an OPTIMUS setup then you need to lookup and follow the guides for 'bumblebee'
[22:37] <Dr_willis> !bumblebee
[22:37] <Dr_willis> !optimus
[22:37] <invoker> guys... tried to install new 3.9 kernel in 13.04.... compiz was not working, reverted back to 3.0.8, unity doesn't work even now. any suggestions?
[22:37] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: ok, gut. dann kannst Du auch gerne auf Deutsch schreiben, obwohl es dafür einen anderen channel gibt.
[22:37] <Dr_willis> bbl. work time for me.
[22:37] <idname> Dr_willis: i think that i had an nvidia driver installed previous
[22:37] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, ? wie heißt der?
[22:37] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: ich glaube #ubuntu-de
[22:37] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: ... oder so
[22:38] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, okay danke werd ich mal probieren aber schon mal danke für alles
[22:38] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: sehr gern...
[22:38] <fyksen> trism, hmm I have installed a couple of more dependences, but now I get that I'm missing libudev.so.0 but I have installed libudev1:i386
[22:38] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: und check mal noch die ubuntu compatibility seiten für Deinen Rechner
[22:38] <balls> belp
[22:39] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, Was ist das? sorry bin neu in sachen linux
[22:39] <ctxmen> ihr seid ja deutsch
[22:39] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: kein problem. - dafür sind wir ja hier... ;)
[22:39] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, bin sonst immer so windows junkie
[22:39] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: es gibt webseiten die genauer beschreiben, auf welchen rechnern mit welchen komponenten ubuntu läuft
[22:39] <Jacktannin> this channel supports english or is it just german?
[22:40] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: weil nicht für alle komponenten treiber existieren...
[22:40] <Jacktannin> :o
[22:40] <OerHeks> english only please.
[22:40] <OerHeks> !de
[22:40] <ctxmen> german badasses
[22:40] <lix> Jacktannin: dont worry. - its the english channel. but AlexTheRealOne did not know...
[22:40] <Jacktannin> im not racist, just confused
[22:40] <Jacktannin> error while loading shared libraries: libcAudio.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:40] <balls> help
[22:40] <Jacktannin> anyone know how I get these libs
[22:40] <Jacktannin> on 13.04
[22:40] <Jacktannin> AMD64
[22:40] <FloodBot1> Jacktannin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, kannst du mir ein link von geben? aber ich glaub schon das auf meinem rechner alles läuft gpu neuste driver intel-i7 ist auch normal und sound driver sind auch okay
[22:40] <Jacktannin> sorry floodbot
[22:41] <yeats> !de | AlexTheRealOne
[22:41] <AlexTheRealOne> okay sorry now i speak english
[22:41] <Jacktannin> im trying to get the libcaudio.so ironically when I try to google how to get these libs isntalled, i cant find guides even though prior google would help me... anyone know how?
[22:42] <balls> help
[22:42] <balls> how do I change open to single click
[22:42] <Jacktannin> open what
[22:42] <lix> AlexTheRealOne: I have to leave. - you can find me l8er in irc. tschüss
[22:42] <AlexTheRealOne> lix, bb
[22:42] <balls> a file
[22:42] <balls> or folder
[22:43] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/1050021
[22:43] <AlexTheRealOne> What u think is better 13.04 or 12.10?
[22:43] <Aww> in the file manager Open preferences then click Behavior, balls
[22:44] <balls> thanks
[22:44] <Aww> You're welcome :)
[22:44] <balls> wheres file manager
[22:44] <Jacktannin> can anyone help me how do I get libcaudio.so libraries installed?
[22:44] <Jacktannin> what year was your PC made AlexTheRealOne?
[22:44] <Aww> balls, its just called files so search for that in the dash
[22:45] <OerHeks> Jacktannin, all i find is libcaudio in PPA' s , so what program do you have that uses own build libs?
[22:45] <balls> will I get 32  or 64 bit ubuntu
[22:45] <darthanubis> 64
[22:45] <balls> im running in in vbox
[22:45] <darthanubis> no question
[22:45] <balls> thanks
[22:45] <Jacktannin> some crappy old game
[22:46] <trism> fyksen: ahh yes, 13.04 dropped libudev0 from the udev package build at version 20, this is the last version that had it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/i386/libudev0/175-0ubuntu19 , you could attempt it as a workaround
[22:46] <Jacktannin> I mean I downloaded libcaudio_2.1.0~ubuntu4.tar.gz seperately, would it be all I need?
[22:46] <Jacktannin> but it says x86
[22:47] <AlexTheRealOne> Jacktannin, http://www.toshiba.de/laptops/satellite/l850/satellite-l850-1vr/ here are some specs i dont really know what year
[22:48] <AbdullahDean> Any tips how I can become a linux sys admin?
[22:48] <fyksen> trism, That did it! Thank you! :)
[22:48] <Jacktannin> ah AMD graphics, not sure but I'd use 13.04 unless there are problems with its Radeon graphics.
[22:49] <n0sq> anyone know why my dell xps intermittently boots ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10? i get a blank screen then i have to power off with the power button - then i power up and get a menu to boot from
[22:49] <bharatc> help
[22:49] <id203> how can i know what gpu iam using right now?i have hybrid
[22:50] <jelly-home> AbdullahDean: spend 2-5 years learning how to manage 2-3 significantly different distributions (eg. Ubuntu LTS, RHEL and a source-based one like Gentoo thrown in for good measure).  Figure out which things they share, which are distro specific, and how to keep them up to date.
[22:51] <AbdullahDean> thanx
[22:51] <jelly-home> Then switch to Debian and never have to use anything else.
[22:51]  * jelly-home hides
[22:51] <balls> why is linux better than windows
[22:51] <AbdullahDean> windows has too many viruses
[22:51] <AlexTheRealOne> Stable, Fast, Secure balls
[22:52] <balls> can you do anything in it
[22:52] <balls> unlike windows
[22:52] <balls> software wise
[22:52] <jelly-home> also, learn that people who ask really dumb questions, do it to provoke a reaction rather than being that silly on accident
[22:53] <balls> not always no
[22:53] <balls> jellly-home
[22:54] <AlexTheRealOne> Anyone know where i get Atheros WB225  drivers?
[22:56] <fosky> hey guys, I'm upgrading to Ubuntu 13.04 and it has been stuck on "Setting up samba-common" for ages now
[22:56] <darthanubis> start over
[22:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> hullo. anyone aware of a way to test x11 cursor animations?
[22:59] <warz> hi all. does anybody know if there's such thing as a light weight command-line adobe flash player? im not even interested in seeing video, necesarilly. i just want it to consume the flash stream data, pretty much.
[22:59] <AlexTheRealOne> where i can see my drivers for wlan or gpu?
[23:00] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Go to Software & Updates > Additional Drivers tab
[23:01] <llldino> From the settings menu
[23:01] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, thanks
[23:03] <DX099> hello
[23:03] <DX099> how can I get list of startup services ?
[23:03] <DX099> the graphical manager only list a few
[23:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> DX099: there is a sed command that will do it, not sure what it was, will have a look for you.
[23:04] <woutersimons> @DX099 command " initctl list "
[23:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> woutersimons: I think he's interested in doing it via the gui.
[23:06] <DX099> woutersimons, thanks
[23:06] <roll> if ubuntu was installed with dhcp, and i want to switch to using a static ip, say 192.168.2.33, in ubuntu server (no gui), how would i go about this (permanent as well, not having to do it each time i boot up)
[23:06] <DX099> but it's weird there's no default GUI utility to manage something so critical...
[23:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> DX099: sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop will reveal them in the gui
[23:07] <nafg_> Hi, I'm on the newest kubuntu and I'm getting a weird behavior.
[23:07] <nafg_> As I move the mouse pointer (synaptics touchpad), it suddenly goes back to where it was a moment ago.
[23:07] <nafg_> So I'm sliding left to right and the pointer is halfway across the screen when it suddenly is still only 1/3 of the way across
[23:07] <nafg_> maybe I'm just in a time warp
[23:07] <darthanubis> roll, #ubuntu-server
[23:07] <llldino> roll, You can set up your router to assign a static ip
[23:07] <roll> llldino: the dhcp server is set to permanently assign an ip, but i'd like to, on the server side, _pick_ an ip
[23:08] <roll> darthanubis: thanks
[23:08] <DX099> ntzrmtthihu777, ok. Thanks. And how with initctl can I stop one of them from spawning at boot again ?
[23:08] <balls> help
[23:08] <darthanubis> roll, np
[23:09] <balls> it wont contunue the install setup
[23:09] <llldino> Ok guys here I go again: I can't boot unless i'm in nosetmode, I updated my nvidia gfoce9400m drivers from Xorg, what do I do?
[23:09] <balls> im at the choose username screen
[23:09] <balls> oh
[23:09] <balls> iI have to have a password
[23:09] <balls> :/
[23:10] <darthanubis> balls, sounds like your hardware
[23:10] <darthanubis> balls, what is your issue?
[23:10] <balls> nothing nm
[23:10] <balls> it didnt allow for blank passwords
[23:11] <darthanubis> lol
[23:11] <balls> defo hardware
[23:11] <Bitwise> Hello. What package do I need to install for qmake?
[23:11] <balls> it was my tape drive
[23:11] <balls> knew it
[23:12] <llldino> Tape drive? Ghetto dude
[23:12] <Irish_Wolf> Hello All, anyone else have a problem with ubuntu 13.04 and their bluetooth mouse?
[23:13] <llldino> Irish_Wolf,  I was having trouble with my keyboard
[23:13] <llldino> Irish_Wolf,  Try shutting the app off and turning it back on
[23:13] <Irish_Wolf> I've got a mac magic mouse (and I'm running ubuntu on a mac)
[23:13] <Irish_Wolf> llldino, I'll give it a whirl.
[23:13] <DX099> ntzrmtthihu777, I just saw that all jobs in "/etc/xdg/autostart" aren't actually ALL in the initctl list... It still misses some
[23:14] <llldino> Irish_Wolf,  Kk, what kind of mac? Whats your GPU? Are you having trouble with it? I'm on a mac too
[23:15] <nafg_> Help, my mouse keeps jumping away
[23:15] <llldino> nafg_, Adjust settings
[23:15] <nafg_> llldino: It's not the settings. Usually it jumps backwards.
[23:16] <nafg_> Like it forgot about the last 1/10 seconds
[23:16] <llldino> nafg_, Should be in Settings > Mouse/Trackpad, try changing acceleration/sensitivity
[23:16] <nafg_> llldino: How would that make it go back in time so to speak?
[23:17] <nafg_> It's not sensitivity or acceleration.
[23:17] <nafg_> It's erratic behavior.
[23:17] <nafg_> And erroneous :)
[23:17] <llldino> nafg_, Well ok then, try shutting it off/unplug then turn it back on
[23:18] <nafg_> llldino: I've shut down the computer since it began. (It's a laptop synaptics touchpad)
[23:18] <AlexTheRealOne> need help wireshark can't see my wlan device
[23:18] <llldino> nafg_, Oh you should have said so
[23:18] <balls> BOO
[23:18] <nafg_> llldino: Sorry.
[23:18] <nafg_> Also I should mention that it's since the upgrade to kubuntu 13.04
[23:18] <llldino> nafg_, There's a way to adjust pressure sensitivy, I would just google it
[23:18] <brian____> Is there a typical reason why 'lsusb -t' would return "No such file or directory"?  It does it now when I insert a usb wifi dongle
[23:18] <llldino> nafg_, I forget the cmds, something do do with xlist though
[23:18] <nafg_> llldino: NOt sure how explain better, but I can't see how it's connected to pressure.
[23:19] <nafg_> It's like the computer has amnesia
[23:19] <nafg_> I should take a video screenshot.
[23:19] <llldino> nafg_, Yes, yes you should
[23:19] <AlexTheRealOne> Damn 13.04....12.10 was better
[23:19] <darthanubis> looks that way
[23:19] <nafg_> llldino: What's the easiest way to do that?
[23:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> AlexTheRealOne: and 12.04 better than that. lts is the way to go
[23:20] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Did you install nonfree packages?
[23:20] <darthanubis> broke my hdtv connection
[23:20] <darthanubis> no client nfs mounts
[23:20] <llldino> nafg_, No idea. VLC probably does it
[23:20] <AlexTheRealOne> I think i downgrade to 12.04 again
[23:20] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Im thinking about it myself
[23:20] <darthanubis> unity is faster
[23:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> and xfce is damn nice :P
[23:21] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, yeah okay i start downloading it right now
[23:21] <darthanubis> i'm not reinstalling
[23:21] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Idk, The performance of raring is way better, i mean of course its going to be buggy it just came out
[23:22] <nafg_> AlexTheRealOne, llldino, truth is I've heard enough times not to upgrade until it's been out long enough for them to fix the inevitable bugs
[23:22] <darthanubis> 13.04.1 how long?
[23:22] <darthanubis> off
[23:22] <DX099> darthanubis, isn't it possible to just update 12.10 unity to 13.04 version ?
[23:22] <nafg_> right
[23:22] <nafg_> DX099: It is, check out omgubuntu
[23:22] <nafg_> IIRC they have instructions
[23:22] <AlexTheRealOne> okay downgrade see u all later
[23:22] <llldino> nafg_, Meh, might as well do my part what with that bug reporting
[23:22] <DX099> OK, thanks
[23:22] <balls> ubuntu install talking a while
[23:23] <darthanubis> DX099, sure, if there is a repo for it
[23:23] <DX099> is compiling Unity worth it ?
[23:23] <balls> can you speed it up
[23:24] <DX099> Is there really any gain if you just compile for your system ?
[23:24] <darthanubis> 10 years ago I would have
[23:24] <bourke_> what's the best way to get a pidgin indicator in 13.04?
[23:24] <darthanubis> I don't have the time nor interest to compile anything
[23:24]  * r00t-err0r > /dev/null goodnight2>&all1
[23:24] <darthanubis> Hence my use of Ubuntu
[23:25] <darthanubis> bourke_, don't need one
[23:25] <ferrari> Ola
[23:25] <darthanubis> bourke_, it's build in
[23:25] <DX099> darthanubis, Ok, but have you heard any feedback about it ?
[23:25] <llldino> Ok guys here I go again: I can't boot unless i'm in nosetmode, I updated my nvidia gfoce9400m drivers from Xorg, what can I do?
[23:25] <darthanubis> bourke_, if not install it
[23:26] <darthanubis> DX099, what are you talking about?
[23:26] <bourke_> darthanubis: I dont want the ubuntu messaging indicator, just the stock pidgin one
[23:26] <DX099> darthanubis, building unity
[23:26] <sduncan> does anyone have advice for dealing with blank screen issues running 12.04 on a macbook pro 6,2?
[23:27] <llldino> sduncan, On boot?
[23:27] <sduncan> llldino, yes
[23:27] <balls> helo
[23:27] <llldino> sduncan, I'm having the same issue
[23:27] <balls> help*
[23:27] <sduncan> llldino, i'm able to get recovery console up, trying a manual startx, but just getting a blank screen
[23:27] <llldino> sduncan, You can boot in nosetmode temporarily
[23:28] <llldino> sduncan, What's your GPU?
[23:28] <DX099> anyway, thanks for advices
[23:28] <sduncan> llldino, nvidia 330M iirc
[23:28] <balls> help
[23:29] <balls> install is going slow
[23:29] <llldino> sduncan, Seems to be a nvidia issue, I have a 9400m myself
[23:29] <bernardo> Hey guys! I upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 a couple days ago and when I restarted Unity wasn't there anymore! I believe it's related to my nvidia card with optimus. Does anyone here have a clue on how to fix it?
[23:29] <sduncan> llldino, are you running 32 or 64 bit?
[23:29] <llldino> sduncan,  64
[23:30] <balls> help
[23:30] <sduncan> nosetmode just gives me an empty purple screen (as it has done all day)
[23:30] <llldino> sduncan, It was working fine until this morning, Now I have to boot like 20 times for it to work
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> !help > balls
[23:30] <llldino> sduncan, Really? Do you have anything plugged into PCI/USB ports?
[23:31] <sduncan> just a mouse llldino
[23:31] <balls> my install is going slow
[23:31] <yeats> bernardo: if you create a new user, does unity appear for that users?
[23:31] <llldino> sduncan, Maybe try unplugging and running again
[23:31] <balls> is there something wrong?
[23:31] <bernardo> yeats: That's a good question, haven't tried this yet
[23:31] <sduncan> llldino, will give it a shot
[23:31] <bernardo> yeats: Should I give it a shot now?
[23:31] <SaGGyUndieS> SaGGyUndieS: does SaGGyUndieS  help yer balls ?
[23:31] <yeats> bernardo: I would, yes
[23:31] <bernardo> yeats: Ok, brb
[23:31] <sduncan> llldino, i've also noticed enabling networking in recovery takes a looooong time. dunno if that's expected or not
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> yeats, same desktops
[23:32] <llldino> sduncan, Recovery won't boot for me
[23:32] <yeats> wilee-nilee: eh?
[23:32] <llldino> sduncan, I even had trouble getting a cd to boot
[23:32] <SaGGyUndieS> balls: needs SaGGyUndieS
[23:32] <sduncan> llldino, yeah i've never had this much trouble
[23:32] <balls> help
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> yeats, HehI thought you were asking my mistake.
[23:33] <yeats> wilee-nilee: no prob ;-)
[23:33] <guest-OGlhpB> yeats: I'm on a guest section now and it worked! Is there a way to fix that for my regular user?
[23:33] <balls> wilee-nilee it dosnt seem to make a difference
[23:33] <llldino> sduncan, Same, I'm thinking about going back to lts but that would make 4 fresh installs in 2 days
[23:33] <balls> 55 of 117
[23:34] <yeats> guest-OGlhpB: I would consider moving your /home/yourusername directory to /home/yourusername.old and try logging in again - you can then move files back over to the newly created /home
[23:34] <ThePiousPriest1> so my unity taskbar on the side and top is gone after upgrading the kernel to 3.9 and ugrading ubuntu to 13.04 running nvidia 313 drivers, any suggestions?
[23:34] <balls> |L"""""""{09
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> ThePiousPriest1, Where did you get the nvidia 319?
[23:35] <guest-OGlhpB> yeats: Ok, I'll try that then. Thanks!
[23:35] <balls> i think the install has froze
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> 313 doh*
[23:35] <balls> what to do
[23:35] <ThePiousPriest1> from the actual software update menu within ubuntu
[23:35] <SaGGyUndieS> balls: heat them up
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> ThePiousPriest1, That a stock kernel and drivers?
[23:36] <harris> is the iron browser good
[23:36] <llldino> Guys, If I go back to 12.04 will new versions of programs not work?
[23:36] <JoseeAntonioR> harris: what do you mean by the iron browser?
[23:36] <ThePiousPriest1> just went to the ubuntu ftp site and downloaded the latest kernel release,even tried that with stock xorg drivers
[23:37] <ThePiousPriest1> what's the command to verify the kernel again? uanme?
[23:38] <harris> the browser the based on chrome
[23:38] <ThePiousPriest1> back, sorry
[23:38] <Loshki> llldino: there's no guarantee new versions will work on older releases. Something you can't live without in 12.04?
[23:38] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: uname -a
[23:38] <ThePiousPriest1> gonna have to sign in and out of pidgin to do this, brb
[23:38] <llldino> Loshki, Maybe, I play alot of OpenTTD and i'd be real angry if 1.3 didn't work
[23:38] <JoseeAntonioR> harris: as far as I know, there is no browser based on chrome.  if you could please give us the full name, that would help us.
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> harris, last release in January based on chromium, can you not try it and decide for yourself.
[23:39] <OerHeks> harris iron browser is just a chromium fork, not included in the repo's.
[23:39] <harris> does anyone know where to download it
[23:39] <ThePiousPriest1> back,  3.9.0-030900-generic #201304291257 SMP Mon Apr 29 16:58:15 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:40] <ThePiousPriest1> basically, I am just trying to get my unity taskbar to come back up gain as well as the taskbar at the top which has time, network settings, etc.
[23:40] <JoseeAntonioR> harris: a simple google search for 'chrome download' would give you this as a result: http://www.google.com/chrome/
[23:40] <OerHeks> harris no idea if it is still maintained.
[23:40] <harris> no not chrome
[23:40] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: so, you're saying you have no launcher, panel, or unity stuff?
[23:40] <harris> my dad has the protable
[23:40] <ThePiousPriest1> correct
[23:40] <Loshki> llldino: bear in mind I know nothing of openttd, but I did find: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_games/precise/games/getdeb/openttd
[23:41] <ThePiousPriest1> tried going through the terminal to reset unity, etc.
[23:41] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: so, you have tried running 'unity' on a terminal
[23:41] <ThePiousPriest1> command?
[23:41] <llldino> Loshki, Yeah, will it work in 12.04? thats the question
[23:41] <JoseeAntonioR> harris: same, a simple google search for 'chromium download' would give this as a result: http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium
[23:41] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: unity
[23:41] <ThePiousPriest1> just straight unity? alright gonna drop out to try that
[23:41] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[23:42] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, do u know if i can downgrade ubuntu from 13.04 to 12.04? Downloading the iso for 12.04 slow internet...
[23:42] <ThePiousPriest1> got a bunch of output, not sure what that means
[23:42] <ThePiousPriest1> need to probably send this to a text file and get it somewhere
[23:43] <OerHeks> AlexTheRealOne, no, downgrade = reinstall
[23:43] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, I think downloading is the only way
[23:43] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: please, use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:43] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, OerHeks hmm okay thx have to wait
[23:43] <Loshki> llldino: take another look. That page seems to contain info about a ppa of openttd version 1.3 something for 12.04
[23:44] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Connect via Ethernet cable
[23:44] <ThePiousPriest1> so it would be unity > /xxxx/xxx?
[23:44] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, that wouldn't speed it up
[23:44] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: wait a min
[23:45] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Yeah it would
[23:45] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Maybe not much, but it would
[23:46] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, nahh maybe just 1mb not more....can i download it faster? downloading it through terminal
[23:46] <balls> hi, I downloaded ubuntu 12.4 iso and mounted it, tried installing in a virtualbox, the installer freezes at "retrieving file 55 out of 113, how can I troubleshoot it please?"
[23:46] <balls> ubuntu 13.4*
[23:46] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Torrent?
[23:46] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, Torrent on linux?
[23:47] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Yeah
[23:47] <OerHeks> balls, that would be updates, wait for it to finish or skip this step
[23:47] <Loshki> AlexTheRealOne: Also, consider minimal cd install -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:47] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, and what should i take for programm on linux? is there something like utorrent?
[23:47] <JoseeAntonioR> ThePiousPriest1: try 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' and then 'unity | pastebinit' with no quotes
[23:47] <balls> how to skip it
[23:48] <llldino> AlexTheRealOne, Transmission should already be installed
[23:48] <JoseeAntonioR> balls: have you MD5 chacked the file?
[23:48] <OerHeks> balls, updates would only work, if you have set bridged to the etehernet adaptor in vbox-settings
[23:48] <arduino_man> i Love UBUNTU !
[23:48] <AlexTheRealOne> llldino, oh cool thx search for torrent of ubuntu 12.04
[23:48] <balls> md5?
[23:49] <gry> !md5
[23:49] <gry> balls, ^^^
[23:49] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks, gry
[23:50] <samskiter> hi. i cant suspend my laptop to ram
[23:50] <balls> im in mac OSX
[23:50] <balls> unfortunetley
[23:50] <gry> samskiter: yes, 'standby' does it
[23:51] <samskiter> gry: what do you mean?
[23:51] <JoseeAntonioR> samskiter: the command in 13.04 is called suspend, should be the same in other verions
[23:51] <JoseeAntonioR> versions*
[23:51] <samskiter> JoseeAntonioR:  i mean i have an erro when i try
[23:51] <gry> balls, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Mac_OS_X
[23:51] <balls> thanks
[23:51] <llldino> samskiter, I'm having the same issue, are you suing a mac?
[23:51] <JoseeAntonioR> sam113101: what is the error?
[23:51] <JoseeAntonioR> oops, sorry sam113101
[23:51] <samskiter> im using an asus laptop no
[23:51] <gry> samskiter, 'standby' suspends your laptop to ram
[23:52] <samskiter> gry: this is not my issue. when i try it doesnt work
[23:52] <gry> what does it do instead of working?
[23:53] <ThePiousPriest1> bah, this is getting really frusterating
[23:53] <ThePiousPriest1> pidgin went down on me
[23:53] <samskiter> sometimes it birefly shows a black screen before returning to a locked screen, and i can log in. other times i see something about neuvaeuoeou failing. the last 2 times, it has returned me to a locked screen. i log in and then my taskbar has dissapeared (im using kde)
[23:53] <ThePiousPriest1> tried to boot into recvoery mode and restore missing packages, no go
[23:53] <samskiter> i think i have graphics card issues, but ive no idea how to fix them :'(
[23:54] <llldino> samskiter, Let me guess, nvidia graphics card?
[23:54] <samskiter> llldino: yup
[23:54] <WXZ1> I need to group similar windows, tile them, maximize all of them... and minimize them. So far, I have no way of doing this
[23:54] <llldino> samskiter, Yeah Im having issues with it too
[23:54] <samskiter> llldino: is linux basically broken for computers using nvidia?
[23:54] <llldino> samskiter, I wouldn't go as far to say that
[23:55] <llldino> samskiter, But it basically is for me
[23:55] <samskiter> llldino: oh dear. one day....
[23:55] <samskiter> llldino: i think i had suspend working in the past though. it wasnt great, sometimes it would take a few tries.
[23:55] <llldino> samskiter, It worked fine for me in 12.10
[23:55] <ThePiousPriest1> bah
[23:55] <samskiter> llldino: but now if i log back in after it fails, my session is basically fucked
[23:55] <samskiter> llldino:  yea
[23:56] <ThePiousPriest1> can't even copy text output properly
[23:56] <samskiter> i wish i hadnt updated to 13.04 but i didnt even know that that was what i was doing :S
[23:56] <llldino> samskiter, Have you updated drivers?
[23:56] <samskiter> llldino: i presume it was done automatically
[23:56] <balls> gry
[23:56] <llldino> Never presume nothing, lol
[23:56] <samskiter> muon software updater says theyre are no updates so i guess its don?
[23:56] <balls> there is no md5 checksum option
[23:57] <samskiter> llldino: i have to presume everything about linux.
[23:57] <llldino> Not nessicarily, drivers are usually proprietary and software update doesnt support that
[23:57] <samskiter> llldino: its so hard to know how to check eveyrthing
[23:57] <ThePiousPriest1> so with this taskbar being missing, what are the possible culprits with the 13.04 update, 3.9 kernel update and the nvidia drivers?
[23:57] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: are you talking to me?
[23:57] <ThePiousPriest1> Anyone really
[23:57] <samskiter> oh, have others seen this issue?
[23:58] <samskiter> is it happening on ubuntu aswell?
[23:58] <llldino> samskiter, Yeah ik, Go to Settings > Software & Updates > Additional Drivers tab
[23:58] <ThePiousPriest1> can't even really PM anyone, had to open pidgin from terminal
[23:58] <ThePiousPriest1> lucky just to get gc
[23:58] <samskiter> btw. has unity changes with 13.04? is it any better?
[23:58] <gry> balls: howdy.
[23:59] <balls> hi
[23:59] <samskiter> llldino: im runnin kde, but i installed ubuntu first. so i have a mish mash of ubuntu and kde programs. i have no idea what to use for updates on kde
[23:59] <samskiter> llldino: except that i think i have to use muon
[23:59] <llldino> samskiter, Yeah ik, Go to Settings > Software & Updates > Additional Drivers tab