[00:00] will apt do it? [00:01] I just list them (like above) and remove all but the current 2. (apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic linux-image-extra-3.5.0-23-generic linux-headers-3.5.0-23 linux-headers-3.5.0-23-generic ) [00:01] But that's me. [00:03] i havent ever had to manually remove them before on other distros, kindof new at it. [00:08] i found this command floating around... looks interesting. [00:08] dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/$.*$-$[^0-9]\+$/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* $[^ ]*$.*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge [00:12] That seems to remove all but current, and not sure how it works on lowlatency. Add an echo before "sudo" and after "xargs" [00:13] echo to stout? [00:13] std [00:13] That way you can see exactly what it'll do before it does it. [00:14] IntuitiveLeap, I would look through /var/log/ [00:14] it actually shows without the added echo [00:14] anything special i should look for len? [00:14] Big files :) [00:14] lol [00:15] I have had a file fill it up if there is a badly behaving program. [00:15] Video drivers can be bad for that, but they may show up in different places [00:16] ive got dpkg.log.1 pretty huge [00:16] Some times kernel, sometime x sometimes syslog [00:16] I've had a log file in home do that. [00:16] but thats probably because i retried to update like 1 million times lol [00:17] what unit is the size given in when i use ls - l? [00:17] kb? [00:17] try adding -h [00:17] ls -lh [00:18] len-1304: He indicated /boot/ was the issue, but that should help too. [00:18] I personally like ncdu. :P [00:18] I _should_ be more familiar with the available tools than I am. [00:19] that dpkg.log.1 file is an order of magnitude larger than any others in /var/log/ [00:20] I have had video driver troubles give me log files in the 100s of GB [00:21] when i see a size written as root 2145584 Mar 31 13:49 dpkg.log.1, is it in KB? [00:23] Thats not very big. Its in bytes. [00:23] try using ls-lh [00:23] * ls -lh [00:23] the h means human readable [12:47] My login takes forever to prompt when I boot.. why is this? [12:47] This is now on a fresh install of beta [12:50] I don't know [12:51] Maybe install stable? (but you might have thought that already) [12:54] sirriffsalot: The beta?:O [12:55] We don't currently have BETA releases… [12:58] smartboyhw_: uhm.. [12:59] 13.04 beta [12:59] You kidding me? [12:59] Oh you changed the name.. well, 13.04 then [12:59] I had this problem in a 12.04 install too.. [12:59] Now same [13:00] sirrfsalot: How long is "forever"? It never appears or what? [13:01] That's the reason why I don't update [13:01] Arkhana: Er hrm he has that in 10.04 too… [13:01] opps 12.04 [13:02] I'm using 10.04 and even that has problems [13:02] smartboyhw_: 30 seconds.. a minute ish [13:02] Just a black screen, and I can tell something is happening, I just don't know what [13:03] Is it doing some network checking before prompting login? [13:03] I've lost three good riffs becasuse of this issue now.. hehe [13:04] "Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Beta 2 is now released!" [13:04] smartboyhw_: Well? [13:05] sirriffaslot: Now where do you see that link? We have updated all our links to final release... [13:07] sirriffsalot: For me it can boot from poweron to login in 15-30 never min. [13:07] smartboyhw_: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/ [13:07] Recent posts [13:08] Bottom.. [13:08] Well and good, but it really is a problem for me lol.. Ubuntu could be perfect if not for a few silly things I am sure. This is a relative beginner in linux talking.. I wonder I wonder why the developers do the silly things, hehe [13:11] sirriffsalot: The top post of "Recent posts" is the 13.04 final release one [13:11] smartboyhw_: yea:P [13:13] sirriffsalot: What's your hardware spec? [13:13] Or maybe try install Ubuntu [13:13] Ubuntu doesn't work for me [13:13] No DE [13:14] smartboyhw_: what in particular?:) [13:14] Arkhana: ???? [13:14] sirriffsalot: RAM, CPU [13:14] smartboyhw_: 4gb ram, 1.6GHz/2.13GHZ [13:15] I didn't have a desktop enviorment [13:15] Only a wallpaort [13:15] Wallpaper [13:15] No button [13:16] Buttons [13:16] Or menu bar [13:17] Arkhana: What the hell? [13:17] That shouldn't happen AT ALL [13:17] It has a DE called Unity [13:18] Ubuntu I mean [13:18] What? Only a wallpaper [13:18] Arkhana: What? Gimme a photo… [13:19] Uhm, how can you send a photo over IRC? [13:19] smartboyhw_: so.. what more? [13:22] !screenshot | Arkhana [13:22] Arkhana: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [13:22] I'll make a screenshot with my phone now [13:23] Kinda easy since I chat with my phone now [13:24] sirriffsalot: Nothing more, but then it's awkward that it boots slowly. Maybe a CPU problem, since it has only 2.13 GHz atop. Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit? [13:26] 2.13GHz i plenty.. :-S? [13:26] 32-bit [13:28] sirriffsalot: 2.13 GHz or 1.6 GHz is relatively a bit slow by today's standards and you should use 64-bit [13:28] And wait a minute, can you try to find out how much RAM your Ubuntu system detects? [13:28] Depends, I have recorded very comfortably on a 10 year old P4 [13:29] smartboyhw_, I plan to visit HK soon ... got an extra couch? :) [13:32] cfhowlett: No. My parents would ABSOLUTELY not agree [13:33] len-1304 how long does your P4 need to boot? [13:33] smartboyhw_, good parents! [13:36] * Arkhana is ha [13:37] Hassling with his internet connection [13:37] Arkhana: What? [13:37] ... [13:37] smartboyhw_: this really sounds a frivolous assumption.. I still run MMORPG's flawlessly with this computer, no laggs (I don't play anymore). This is a decent computer, and 64-bit? Why? [13:38] smartboyhw_: after some updates, it has taken forever long to prompt login, it's not that my computer is slow, it runs beautifully otherwise, something goes on when a black screen keeps hanging.. I wanna know what's going on; how do I do this?:) [13:39] sirriffsalot: I think I got the point. The black screen, it is the GRUB bootloader loading the linux-lowlatency kernel [13:40] smartboyhw_: aha, why is this taking so long? [13:40] Might try a realtime one then, hehe [13:41] sirriffsalot: -rt takes the same time also.... [13:41] smartboyhw_: but this makes no sense, yours never takes this long? even windows doesn't take that long, lol [13:42] Something has changed, for the worse :P [13:43] imagebin.org/255913 [13:44] Ubuntu without any signs of icons or start baf [13:44] Bar [13:44] And yes, the CD is done loading [13:45] Arkhana: Meh you clearly have some screen issues... [13:45] Yup [13:45] What's the resolution of that screen? [13:46] 1080 x 786 [13:46] Or something like that [13:46] * Arkhana leaves #ubuntustudio [13:46] Haha [13:48] Whoa that's LOW resolution… [13:49] sirriffsalot: The time depends. If it is in gd mood it can boot within 15 seconds. If not, probably 35 or more [13:50] smartboyhw_: linux is like a delicate lady.. if it's doing something wrong; it's your fault. [13:50] It has no moods that you don't cause :P [13:51] And this is a fresh install, makes no sense [13:51] I'm not saying ubuntu studio is crap, I love it, no criticizing here [13:51] But I just want to fix this :) [13:52] … [13:53] I'm talking about the truth. [13:53] Truth needs proof mate.. all I'm seeing are claims. I on the other hand hear that you and others don't have this problem of one minute, which often is my case [13:53] Gonna have to edit the boot so I'll see exactly what's going on, then get back to you! [13:54] … [13:54] * smartboyhw_ is slayed [13:54] Sure, you want proof, how can I give you proof? I'm not at my computer now… [13:55] Not my falt is it?^^ You claimed truth, I just disagreed :P [13:57] sirriffsalot: Everyone's computer is different… [13:57] Yeah, encapsulates my point.. [13:57] But hey I don't mean to argure [13:57] I'll get back with more info! [13:58] be back* [13:59] sirruffsalot: OK [13:59] ~:~) [13:59] Hehe [13:59] Stil got a lot of repos etc to add [13:59] A3 rocks [13:59] :) [14:00] We have a test repo for raring anyways [14:00] Back again [14:00] Yo [14:01] So could you help me with what's wrong with Ubuntu? [14:01] sirriffsalot: But are you willing to take risks? [14:01] smartboyhw_: depends, heh! [14:01] Arkhana: For Ubuntu, try asking in #ubuntu [14:02] Ok [14:02] sirriffsalot: https://launchpad.net/~zequence/+archive/testing [14:02] Try to see if you would like to install this PPA and take the risk [14:03] Uhm, ardour3, lv2 and some other bleeding edge stuff? [14:03] recordmydesktop? What's that haha [14:03] Btw can you help me with recording sound? Both Alsa and Jack don't wirk in Audacity [14:03] Arkhana: you have to tell audacity to route between jack correctly [14:03] sirriffsalot: That is a new app in 13.04 [14:04] For Ubuntu Studio [14:04] Aha? [14:04] Ok [14:04] Arkhana: if you're a more graphical user interface guy, fire up patchage, so you can route 'till you bleed [14:05] sirriffsalot: It captures your audio+video data of your current desktop session [14:05] Oo [14:05] yep [14:05] Might need that to show others how to use ardour etc [14:05] My vocalist isn't exactly a linux-user lol [14:05] What the hell, I'll try it [14:05] sirriffsalot: That is a good use:P [14:05] I trust zequence so [14:07] sirriffsalot: You should, he's our (Ubuntu Studio Team's) Project Lead [14:07] Yeah, hence my trust ;D [14:07] It's basically ardour3 from Debian Multimedia Teams git repo, with some added dependencies in order to get it built, and also a patch by falktx [14:07] I was just testing it for myself so far [14:08] Yeah, I only had recordmydesktop and one other as a new install [14:08] Lol, cool [14:08] Sirriffsalot: I can use the cmdline as well [14:08] One of the first programs in linux I've used that worked on first attempt from start to finish [14:08] Arkhana: sorry? [14:08] .ogv .. that's new [14:08] The command line [14:09] Arkhana: I know.. but what of it? [14:09] I was mixing an album for a friend and had some CPU problems with ardour2 and effects. Switched to ardour3, everything was fine [14:09] zequence: really! [14:09] zequence: sounds strange [14:10] But hey, ardour 3 is definitely a huge leap, even I can tell that [14:10] zequence: any idea what caused the cpu problems in 2? [14:10] It's so much easier to work with [14:10] hellyea [14:10] Especially with a 4-core computer [14:11] I tend to have 900 regions around at the end of recording.. so record-enabling at that point used to take five seconds, lol [14:11] Sirriffsalot: I'm going to check it all out later, but I think I can makr it [14:11] Arkhana: well, patchage makes routing easier, rather than using qjackctl [14:12] I don't know about any of these [14:12] Never heard of them [14:12] Arkhana: oh, you're very new to this? [14:12] Arkhana: how far have you got? [14:12] gotten* meh [14:12] I am kinda new to alsa and jack but not to linux [14:13] Arkhana: well what are you struggling with exactly? [14:13] At this moment: nothing. But at my pc, I couldn't record [14:14] And I could only select Jack as input [14:14] Arkhana: when jack runs, which is an audio server, is is the sound-routing master, so to speak [14:14] Arkhana: it's the boss. So all sound goes through jack when it runs [14:14] Ok [14:14] !proaudio [14:14] For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro [14:15] Arkhana: and patchage is basically a graphical way for you to route sound as much as you like [14:15] And what is routing? Does patchage let the sound go trough diffrent ways? [14:16] zequence: hey, wanna help me out with finding the right guitar-sound with eq's? I'll give you a small recording of the raw guitar-sound, and you tweak it to something you find fits a pop-like song, and slap it back to me [14:16] Arkhana: yeah, routing is basically feeding sound in different directions [14:16] If you've got rhythmbox or some audio player sending sound, you can route it's output to your speakers, so you actually hear something [14:17] That's the simplest of routing, you'll get more advanced as you go along [14:17] Output is OK already [14:17] So if you wanna record something, route the output of whatever you want to record, to audacious input [14:17] But its also possible that with the wrong routing the sound is very distorted [14:17] ? [14:18] Arkhana: absolutely, you gotta route things right, hehe [14:18] sirriffsalot: I could give it a shot. I mostly mix metal, all though that probably matters less. I don't spend a lot of time working on it [14:18] Lol i love those kind of sounds that nobody wants but are still good [14:18] wish I had more time, and a nice studio [14:18] zequence: metal?! really? I'll stick to you, but hang on, gonna fetch it [14:20] would be nice to use zynaddsubfx in ardour 3 when working with midi :) [14:20] Hey everybody: I know how to record LP's in a cheap way with Ardour or Audacity [14:20] This, is the best 4-way talk I've ever heard in this channel. [14:20] Wanna know? [14:21] smartboyhw, :D [14:22] Smartboyhw, DarkEra: Lol we are talking u just watching [14:23] :D [14:24] sirriffsalot: Are you recording it first? ;) [14:24] lol [14:25] zequence: nope, hehe [14:25] zequence: but it was on my studio laptop, had to export and move it [14:30] Hey does anyone know a good VSTi program for UStudio? [14:33] Arkhana: fraid not.. :/ [14:43] Sirriffsalot: t [14:43] Arkhana: cómo? [14:43] Must be pure Windows technology [14:45] Sirriffsalot: must be pure Windows technology, vsr [14:45] Vsr [14:45] Vst [14:45] I know what it is?? [14:46] Yes, but I meaned that something like VST isn't likely to be ported to Linux [14:46] Except Ardour [14:46] But that's only for VSTfx [14:47] Arkhana: well.. you can use them in wine (which is a windows emulator that runs the programs as if it were windows OS) [14:47] Arkhana: but since these companies are closed source and proprietary, I doubt linux will ever be able to make their tweaked versions [14:48] Yes I know about Wine [14:49] But Wine has lend some code from ReactOS, a project to build Windows from scratch [14:49] And ReactOS has dissasembled a [14:49] Some pieces of Windows [14:49] Right..? [14:50] So I think at the moment that Wine is really good, Microsoft will stop Wine [14:50] Just some info [14:51] Arkhana: how are they going to stop wine? hehe [14:51] By judging them [14:52] I doubt the people that are wayy above them will really care what judgement the arch-bishops of windows preach :) [14:53] Might be [14:53] Since Linux has no commercials [14:54] Or demant any payment [15:00] And a lot of people don't understand Linux [15:00] In example: it has not disk numbers [15:01] People won't understand that [15:02] Arkhana: I'm not THAT knowledgable about linux.. hehe [15:02] And even less people know about Syllable, but Syllable is friggin' fast [15:02] Boot time: 10 secs [15:02] For the OS itself [15:02] On a 10 year old PC [15:03] Well yea.. but not really studio compatible.. [15:03] Arkhana: and hey, if you want quickness, try slax [15:03] Ok [15:03] Try Kolibri OS [15:03] No need to have it installed, just on a usb stick :P [15:03] Nothing beats that [15:04] My PC doesn't boot USB [15:04] Filf [15:04] Filthy thing [15:04] Still not studio-compatible=8 [15:05] You have a point... :D [15:05] But using them both is best [15:05] I'll trade a thousand x-runs for 1-minute extended boot-time any day [15:06] ? [15:11] What is the slowest OS btw [15:16] Arkhanos: windows [15:16] ;D [15:17] Arkhanos: x-runs are moments when the jack audio server can't handle the things going on and so the sound has a slight lagg og glitch sound.. like a rip in a cd [15:17] Not as bad, but noticeable [15:19] Sirriffsalot: do you know the buzz w [15:20] Arkhanos: no [15:20] That appears at wrong amplifiers [15:20] If you hear that from your PC [15:20] Oh [15:20] Uhm [15:20] Then you can recognize if your computer is working hard [15:20] Are you still talking about x-runs? What it sounds like? [15:20] Like a mmmmmmmmmm [15:21] And not about x-runs [15:21] It's an analog sound [15:21] Ah [15:21] You hard drive I guess? [15:21] Being recorded :P [15:21] No [15:21] opuscontinuum === opus2 is now known as opuscontinuum [15:22] If you plug a cable into your analog amplifier [15:22] And you touch the other end of the cable with your finger [15:22] That sounf [15:22] Ah yea [15:22] Sound [15:22] What about it? [15:23] Is it called that way? [15:23] Is what called that way? [15:23] The buzz from the amplifier. Opus2 said it was called opuscontinuum [15:24] Anyway, if it comes from your PC [15:24] Arkhanos: hehe, I think he was trying to change his nick^^ [15:24] And it's getting lower [15:24] "<-> opus2 is now known as opuscontinuum" [15:24] Your PC is working [15:24] Aha [15:24] Arkhanos: not sure what the sound it called [15:24] I know it as a '50 Hz buzz' [15:25] But it's not 50 hz in tone [15:26] It has got sound over the whole spectrum, but you hear the sound 50 times per second [15:26] This is sounding weird.. [15:27] What are you recording exactly? [15:27] How do you mean? [15:28] What are you recording?? [15:28] What's making the buzz? [15:29] The audio cicuit [15:29] It's short-circuited in some way [15:30] You hear it when you amplify a wrong circuit [15:30] Are you testing it now? [15:30] I can't help you here I'm afraid.. :7 [15:30] Ask in #ubuntu perhaps [15:30] Be precise [15:31] And if no luck strikes, go to ubuntuforums and post an even more detailed report there [15:31] No, it's not really a problem [15:31] It hasn't anything to do with the PC itself [15:32] I only meant that you can know if the pc is working by hearing this sound [15:33] Just a tip [15:39] is your equipment grounded properly? [15:39] your just hearing a feedback loop. [15:40] yeah, i have to agree.. the "hum" is not going to be from software [15:41] *maybe* you are routing something in through jack that is allowing you to hear something that is being plugged in incorrectly [15:43] is this analog amplifier a separate device? or is it in your computer case? [16:09] Ciao a tutti :) [16:12] Volevo sapere se tra gli strumenti di questa distribuzione fosse disponibile un programma equivalente a Magix Foto :) e che quindi fosse in grado di creare "videomontaggi" con l'uso di foto in pratica e una musica sotto scelta da me... [16:14] ?? nessuno sa rispondermi ? xD [16:14] studio-user200: please wait [16:15] !it [16:15] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [16:15] studio-user200: ^^ [16:17] thx :) [16:42] The amplifier is separate [16:44] Actually, the amplifier is a mixing table [16:44] And indeed, the amplifier is not grounded well [16:45] It's in a wooden robe [16:45] And the mixing table has rubber at the bottom [17:22] hi, [17:22] can we use the skype on ubuntu studio13? [17:44] Hey [17:45] Yep, you can [17:46] Type 'sudo -i' [17:46] After that, type your password [17:46] kuranevi: i can use skype on ubuntu 12.04, I don't see why it wouldn't work on 13 [17:46] After that, type 'apt-get install skype' [17:47] o, it appears Arkhanos is giving you real help [17:47] And you're done [17:48] shouldnt the software center also be an easy method to find and install skype? [17:48] not that i am trying to knock Arkhanos execellent help [17:49] Software center: ok [17:49] Only a little slow at my pc [17:49] But it's as good as terminal [17:50] Maybe better, since the terminal is a little hard to beginners [17:55] ok [17:55] but i become a error: [17:55] E: skype paketi konumlandırılamıyor [17:56] his meaning: skype packet can not find a position [17:56] Ok [17:56] Now try with the software center [17:57] he can not find skype [17:58] I'm going to watch the news now [17:58] thank you [18:18] !partner | kuranevi [18:18] kuranevi: Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [18:18] That's what has Skype. [18:18] !skype [18:18] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [18:41] Nice help Unit193, thanks. [18:42] Sure. [18:42] Yes, it's something new for me [18:43] So Unit193's advice is indeed very nice [18:45] dont work [18:45] Ow, that's a bummer [18:46] What's wrong? [18:46] You can compile Skype, do you know what that means? [18:47]