[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:20] <ToBeFree> I would like to upgrade to 13.10; "do-release-upgrade -d" doesn't work yet, however. Would it work to replace all occurences of "raring" in my sources.list by "saucy" or aren't those repositories up yet?
[10:26] <bekks> The latter.
[10:28] <ToBeFree> any idea when I could do this?
[10:29] <bekks> 14When someone set up the repos :)
[10:32] <Ian_Corne> sausy is already there
[10:32] <Ian_Corne> our mirror has it already at least
[10:32] <Ian_Corne> the delta with raring will be small still however
[10:32] <Ian_Corne> http://ubuntu.rave.org/dists/
[10:58] <brendand> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/
[11:17] <ToBeFree> ah, great
[11:18] <Fudge> its working nicely too
[11:18] <ToBeFree> 237 upgrades. :D
[12:01] <BluesKaj> I wonder what happened to the 64 bit builds for the hdmi/intel audio patch that was published earlier this week , it. seems to have disappeared ..this is the 32 bit  url : https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages
[12:24] <sevenhill> hi everyone
[12:24] <sevenhill> how can i upgrade my *ubuntu to 13.10 ?
[12:26] <jhenke> normal way is update-manager -d
[12:26] <jhenke> where the -d means "upgrade to development version"
[12:26] <sevenhill> ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt_pkg.so: undefined symbol: _Py_ZeroStruct
[12:27] <sevenhill> i used sudo sed -i 's/raring/saucy/' /etc/apt/sources.list   is that wrong ?
[12:27] <jhenke> especially so early in the development cycle I would suggest to set up a vm
[12:27] <sevenhill> there are some problems about update-manager ( because of mixing python2 & 3 in my system )
[12:27] <jhenke> in case something breaks ;)
[12:27] <sevenhill> jhenke, i like bugs :)
[12:28] <jhenke> still it is usefull to have a stable and running host os
[12:28] <jhenke> so you have an emergency access
[12:31] <sevenhill> :) the live cds/dvds/usbs are for emergency access :D
[12:31] <sevenhill> if we didn't like to deal with bugs we need to use our abacus instead of using computers :)
[12:32] <jhenke> sevenhill no, it is not about whether we are dealing with bugs, but how to deal with it
[12:33] <jhenke> VMs with features like memory snapshots can help in finding the cause for bugs
[12:33] <jhenke> by comparing before and after
[12:33] <BluesKaj> sevenhill, I sed'd my sources.list and it worked fine just make sure you update and upgrade 13.04 first and for safetys sake comment out any ppas in the sources list
[12:36] <sevenhill> BluesKaj, i was using 13.04 before it release so i need to change a developing cycle thats the why i'm asking is it enough to use sed or am i have to wait for its first alpha1 iso
[12:37] <sevenhill> jhenke, it looks right from looking from your viewpoint :) But come and try any vm with my old laptop :)
[12:37] <BluesKaj> sevenhill, I'm already runnng 13.10 , just updated and upgraded and am about to boot back into it ...bbiab
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ok , boot into 13.10 successful after a large update and package upgrade
[12:45] <sevenhill> :D same in here try to update lots of updates :D
[12:45] <sevenhill> 268 upgraded, 87 newly installed, 25 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 235 MB of archives.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> sevenhill, assuming you have a stable OS as a fallback , then an adventure into 13.10 is pretty uneventful
[12:45] <sevenhill> 13.04 -> 13.10
[12:46] <BluesKaj> so far
[12:46] <sevenhill> BluesKaj, i have done my job in kde ( i committed all my patches )
[12:46] <sevenhill> so i need a little adventure :D
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hehe'
[12:47] <sevenhill> tomorrow is tagging day in kde
[12:47] <Guest99103> hi everyone. is f2fs enabled in kernel 3.9 ? i already installed f2fs-tools and manually compilled gparted 0.16.1
[12:47] <sevenhill> so maybe for me to deal with other problems in ubuntu :D
[12:48] <BluesKaj> running kde here as well , so far all seems good
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Guest99103, what's the hurry ?
[12:51] <Guest99103> BluesKaj, just testing ...
[12:51] <BluesKaj> good luck :)
[16:28] <johnjohn101> when do you think we'll get some announcements about what's coming in 13.10?
[16:40] <brendand> johnjohn101, UDS
[16:40] <brendand> two weeks from now
[16:40] <genii-around> johnjohn101: There's also https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+specs
[16:42] <johnjohn101> thanks. i know 13.04 had been released so there's a lull.  ubuntu has a lot of work to do in the next year. I can't wait to get my ubuntu phone!
[16:44] <genii-around> That's probably a ways off yet. They say Oct but who knows
[16:55] <johnjohn101> i can wait until april next year.  no rush
[23:42] <Fudge> are we bug reporting things yet or do we have to wait for a freeze from debian