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[06:40] <darkxst> pitti, we don't have localed, right?
[06:52] <darkxst> ricotz, are you running saucy?
[06:52] <ricotz> darkxst, yes
[06:52] <darkxst> is g-c-c region panel crashing now?
[06:53] <ricotz> yes
[06:53] <darkxst> strange, there is a dbus proxy callback for localed, that has decided to fire all of a sudden ;(
[06:53] <ricotz> darkxst, oh :\ you already copied g-c-c
[06:54] <darkxst> ricotz, this is unrelated to the panels stuff
[06:58] <ricotz> darkxst, is this related to systemd 202?
[06:58] <darkxst> ricotz, probably
[06:59] <ricotz> i guess you already have a backtrace to look at?
[06:59] <darkxst> actually looks like org.freedesktop.locale1 has disappeared
[06:59] <darkxst> yeh
[06:59] <ricotz> org.freedesktop.locale1 is available here
[07:01] <darkxst> ricotz, can you past the output from Locale?
[07:01] <darkxst> on org.f.locale1 of course
[07:06] <ricotz> darkxst, seems to return nothing/null
[07:07] <darkxst> ricotz, that is a problem!
[07:08] <darkxst> it should return ['LANG=...','LANGUAGE= '] etc
[07:20] <darkxst> pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1175065
[07:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1175065 in systemd (Ubuntu) "org.freedesktop.locale1 fails to return locale data" [Undecided,New]
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[14:28] <czajkowski> hyperair: ping :)
[14:29] <hyperair> czajkowski: pong
[14:35] <czajkowski> sent you the pastebin from the log
[14:35] <czajkowski> weird game = headache!
[14:36] <hyperair> czajkowski: yeah. could you try starting from scratch and installing just pengobrain alone?
[14:37] <hyperair> czajkowski: thing is that one of those other games you installed might have pulled in the missing dependency
[14:38] <czajkowski> hyperair: see pm
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[15:38] <pitti> darkxst: we do have localed
[15:39] <pitti> darkxst: will look into it
[15:41] <pitti> darkxst: heh, it's even caught by the autopkgtests
[15:52] <Sweetshark> BAWL!1!
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[17:18] <pitti> seb128: do you know who actually pays attention to org.gnome.desktop.screensaver.gschema.xml's "ubuntu-lock-on-suspend" key?
[17:18] <pitti> seb128: we don't have that in gnome-screensaver at least
[17:20] <seb128> pitti, g-s-d
[17:21] <seb128> pitti, and g-c-c sets it
[17:21] <pitti> ooh
[17:21] <pitti> seb128: so it's our g-s-d which locks the screen on suspend, not gnome-screensave
[17:22] <pitti> seb128: I just taught g-screensaver to do that now, but I need to check gsettings whether that's actually desired
[17:22] <pitti> seb128: so I guess I rather change g-s-d's 51_lock_screen_on_suspend.patch to listen to logind instead of upower
[17:22] <seb128> pitti, right
[17:23] <pitti> hm, why is that in settings-daemon and not in screensaver
[17:23] <pitti> for upstream, it is in g-shell
[17:23] <seb128> pitti, we just patched where the suspend was happening iirc
[17:24] <pitti> seb128: s/suspend/lock/, right
[17:24] <seb128> yeah, lock
[17:24] <pitti> I guess we need to clean that up for 3.8, but for now let's just update that patch
[17:24] <pitti> seb128: merci!
[17:24] <pitti> err
[17:24] <pitti> seb128: merci !
[17:24] <seb128> pitti, de rien
[17:24] <seb128> ;-)
[17:29] <pitti> seb128: actually, I don't really feel like introducing logind support into our old g-s-d; I guess I just check the key in g-screensaver rather, would that be okay?
[17:29] <pitti> seb128: (it only works with upower right now)
[17:29] <pitti> we can then drop 51_lock_screen_on_suspend.patch, and potentially others
[17:38] <seb128> pitti, wfm, as long as the result is still the same for the end user I'm happy
[17:39] <pitti> seb128: I think that will better mirror what the shell does
[17:39] <pitti> seb128: so we don't break g-s-d when being used with shell
[17:39] <seb128> cool
[17:39] <seb128> +1
[17:46] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128, pitti
[17:47] <chrisccoulson> how's the sunburn today? :)
[17:47] <pitti> ça va chrisccoulson
[17:47] <pitti> chrisccoulson: better indeed! starts to peel off
[17:47] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[17:47] <chrisccoulson> pitti, yeah, me too
[17:47] <seb128> chrisccoulson, better for me as well!
[17:47] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, not bad thanks. the ventilation system is driving me crazy in this room though
[17:47] <Laney> United We Stand
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> it's like someone is playing white noise constantly in to our room ;)
[17:48] <seb128> chrisccoulson, come to the desktop room, it's nice in there ;-)
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> heh
[17:50] <sarnold> oh no you can't steal our guy back! he's ours!
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[18:02] <mlankhorst> g'day!
[18:02] <mlankhorst> hope your day has been as beautiful as mine
[18:03] <Laney> we miss mlankhorst and his australian ways
[18:03] <Laney> xnox: I put your name against ubiquity on http://pad.ubuntu.com/saucy-logind-transition
[18:04] <xnox> Laney: ok. looking at calling pam_open & pam_start_session, or simply calling logind's dbus create session call.
[18:04] <Laney> you brave man
[18:04] <Laney> pam should be the way, IIUC
[18:10] <pitti> Laney: uploaded g-screensaver fix, FYI
[18:11] <Laney> nice!
[18:11] <pitti> now we have bug 1175065 as the only remainign regression I'm aware of, I'll look into that now
[18:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1175065 in systemd (Ubuntu) "org.freedesktop.locale1 fails to return locale data" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1175065
[18:14] <pitti> darkxst: still here?
[18:36] <pitti> darkxst: uploading fixed systemd for ^
[18:36] <pitti> Laney: so that's the last regression known to me; anything else on your radar?
[18:37] <Laney> pitti: not as such, just figuring out what the best thing for ubiquity-dm to do is
[18:37] <Laney> see #-devel
[18:37] <pitti> ah, ok
[18:37] <pitti> Laney: you are on ubiquity? ok, then I'll continue with some other packages on the pad
[18:38] <Laney> not 'on' it as such, but aware that xnox and slangasek are discussing it wrt. pam
[18:38] <xnox> pitti: well... me and laney are on it. basically if indicator-session is broken it will fail to shutdown machine then ubiquity will need fixing: calling logind to start session or calling libpam to open a session.
[18:39] <pitti> xnox: I've prodded cyphermox and didrocks to land indicator-session manually, until auto-landing is fixed, FYI
[18:39] <pitti> trunk indicator-session works just fine with logind
[18:41] <cyphermox> pitti: it won't be manual but it will land tonight
[18:41] <xnox> pitti: good.
[18:41] <xnox> saucy images are building and available and are cronned.
[18:41] <pitti> cyphermox: that assumes that UTAH gets unbroken?
[18:41] <xnox> but those are on the "real" cdimage, instead of the fake one at the conference network.
[18:41] <cyphermox> no
[18:41] <cyphermox> pitti: I'll manually test here, and manually publish
[18:42] <cyphermox> (if tests fail)
[18:42] <pitti> ah right, didrocks mentioned we can do a manual copy from the PPA
[18:42] <pitti> cyphermox: merci !
[19:21] <Laney> ricotz: any change of a docky release with the logind support that got merged?
[19:22] <pitti> Laney: for cinnamon I'll just add an explicit consolekit dep; or do you happen to know about any logind plans there?
[19:25] <Laney> pitti: no, I'd do that and file a bug upstream
[19:25] <pitti> right
[19:25] <Laney> just grabbed the latest release (yesterday) and it still has CK
[19:31] <ricotz> Laney, is the current systemd support of docky not working?
[19:32] <Laney> ricotz: oh, it's in the archive version?
[19:32] <Laney> I just checked lp:docky and saw it got merged since the release (or at least looked so)
[19:33] <ricotz> Laney, ah you are right, it isnt in 2.1.x
[19:33] <Laney> righto
[19:33] <Laney> so then a release would be nice :-)
[19:33] <Laney> are you involved with do? I can't remember
[19:34] <ricotz> yeah, i guess this would be a reason do finally do one again
[19:34] <ricotz> Laney, no, RAOF would probaly like to take a look at DO ;)
[19:34] <Laney> indeed
[19:34] <Laney> I just saw him
[19:34]  * Laney lunch hunts ;-)
[19:34] <Laney> ttyl
[19:35] <ricotz> Laney, alright ;)
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[22:21] <seb128> attente, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages