Ponch0 | hey guys so I installed 13.04 gnome remix, I added a ppa for the new gnome web browser - did sudo update & and upgrade - and gdm wouldn't start being a noob that I am, I had to reinstall - in that case what are my options? I was able to get into the terminal with f1 | 00:24 |
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Ponch0 | gdm wouldn't start after restart that is. | 00:25 |
Ponch0 | i had the mouse cursor | 00:25 |
darkxst | Ponch0, did you use 'dist-upgrade'? | 00:26 |
Ponch0 | Also - one more question - what is a staging PPA I can add that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 staging | 00:27 |
Ponch0 | nope just 'upgrade' | 00:27 |
darkxst | Ponch0, you must do 'dist-upgrade'! | 00:27 |
Ponch0 | that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 updates without adding that unity gunk. | 00:27 |
darkxst | staging ppa is for things that still have regressions and/or known issues | 00:27 |
Ponch0 | oh than the 'stable' ppa? | 00:27 |
Ponch0 | oops on the upgrade - good to know for future reference I probably installed lightdm and there was some type of conflict. | 00:28 |
darkxst | Ponch0, just run it now, it should fix things | 00:28 |
Ponch0 | I already reinstalled the system I have to set everything up again hehe. | 00:28 |
darkxst | oh | 00:29 |
Ponch0 | I couldn't get on the computer to look up what I could do - it was my only option. | 00:29 |
Ponch0 | I couldn't get to the part where it asked me for login. | 00:29 |
Ponch0 | so is there a PPA I could add that will add the stable gnome apps - it seems pretty bare which I guess isn't a bad thing. | 00:31 |
Ponch0 | and stable updates? or is that already covered? | 00:31 |
darkxst | Ponch0, gnome3 PPA is stable | 00:31 |
Ponch0 | and if I add that - it won't mess up my install with some unity gunk right? | 00:31 |
darkxst | Ponch0, why would we have unity gunk in a gnome3 ppa? | 00:32 |
Ponch0 | lol because somehow I just ended up without being able to log in by just adding the gnome web browser ppa | 00:33 |
Ponch0 | but now I know that wasn't the reason. | 00:33 |
Ponch0 | darkxst: anyway thank you for answering my seemingly silly questions. | 00:35 |
darkxst | np | 00:36 |
Ponch0 | so a quick recap - I should never do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" but rather "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?? | 00:39 |
darkxst | jbicha, ok to copy updated g-c-c to staging? | 01:01 |
jbicha | darkxst: I didn't test it, but I trust your judgment | 01:06 |
jbicha | you have to have a hard-coded list of possible external panels? | 01:06 |
darkxst | that is only for the launchers | 01:07 |
jbicha | and things work fine if those external panels aren't installed? | 01:07 |
darkxst | actual .so panels get loaded dynamically. | 01:07 |
darkxst | jbicha, sure, it will just ignore any entry it can't find the desktop file for | 01:08 |
darkxst | the only other alternative was to bring back the gmenu code, and scan all desktop files. | 01:12 |
darkxst | and that is overly complicated and messy code. | 01:13 |
jbicha | it might be better; that way we can tell apps that only provide external launchers to ship a separate .desktop with NotShowIn=Unity; and the settings panel with NotShowIn=GNOME; | 01:14 |
jbicha | gufw (gui-ufw) is another one | 01:14 |
jbicha | myunity was one but that only lasted a few months | 01:15 |
darkxst | yeh I got gufw in the patch already | 01:21 |
jbicha | oh it doesn't need to be renamed to match the new naming convention? | 01:22 |
darkxst | no, launchers dont need to have a specific name format, since they are just read from the list. | 01:26 |
jbicha | ok | 01:31 |
jbicha | darkxst: there's an interesting patch at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692253 I don't think I'll be able to look into it at the moment | 01:36 |
ubot5 | Gnome bug 692253 in User Accounts "user-accounts: empty login history window" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 01:36 |
jbicha | darkxst: you're not on saucy yet are you? | 01:56 |
darkxst | yeh | 01:56 |
jbicha | I might have broken gnome-shell 3.6 by uploading gjs today | 01:57 |
darkxst | gjs 1.36? | 01:58 |
jbicha | yes | 01:58 |
darkxst | 3.6 works fine with that, however there was one redundant line in the JS that needed to be removed | 01:58 |
darkxst | not sure if that was fixed upstream | 01:58 |
darkxst | jbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621204/ | 02:02 |
jbicha | darkxst: do you want to make a debdiff for that? | 02:04 |
darkxst | sure | 02:04 |
darkxst | jbicha, http://pastebin.com/rutneiZR | 02:10 |
jbicha | cool, gnome-control-center works | 02:15 |
jbicha | darkxst: thanks, good night | 02:21 |
darkxst | np, good night | 02:22 |
Ponch0 | Hello, so my ubuntu software center is crashing again, I cannot open it or rather I open it and it immediately closes. So i purged it and tried to reinstall it - here's what popped up and i'm not sure what it means http://pastebin.com/TxD80K9D | 04:32 |
darkxst | ricotz, are we using gnome region panel (or language selector) in 3.6 g-c-c? I don't remember | 07:33 |
user | Please help me. How can I install ubuntu gnome with efi? | 10:37 |
Mattish91 | hello | 11:47 |
Mattish91 | any one else but me who got troubbles with gnome updates_ | 11:47 |
Mattish91 | ?| | 11:47 |
Mattish91 | hello? | 11:48 |
Mattish91 | anyone here?? | 11:49 |
darkxst | what troubles? | 11:49 |
darkxst | did you do a dist-upgrade? | 11:49 |
Mattish91 | Yes, and then updated gnome to gnome 3.8 | 11:50 |
Mattish91 | now i cant login due to a gnome error | 11:50 |
darkxst | can you paste the error? | 11:50 |
Mattish91 | its just Cant load gnome | 11:50 |
Mattish91 | so i wont be able to login | 11:51 |
darkxst | and you did a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after installing the ppa? | 11:51 |
Mattish91 | yes | 11:52 |
Mattish91 | also apt-get update | 11:52 |
Mattish91 | before | 11:52 |
darkxst | Mattish91, I need to see logs | 11:52 |
Mattish91 | how do i get those? im on a live usb atm | 11:52 |
darkxst | ~/.cache/gdm/session.log | 11:52 |
Mattish91 | ok 1 sec | 11:53 |
darkxst | /var/log/gdm/* | 11:53 |
Mattish91 | im not allowed to see any logs in that folder, should i change the permissions? | 11:54 |
darkxst | sudo -s | 11:54 |
Mattish91 | the folder is empty :S | 11:55 |
darkxst | are you using gdm? | 11:55 |
Mattish91 | yes, i had to update the folder :S | 11:57 |
Mattish91 | what file did you need? | 11:57 |
darkxst | start with :0-greeter.log | 11:57 |
Mattish91 | can i send that file or do i need to copy it? | 11:57 |
darkxst | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | 11:58 |
darkxst | also ~/.cache/gdm/session.log (if things got that far) | 11:58 |
Mattish91 | :o-greeter.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622390/ | 11:59 |
darkxst | could be a glx problem, what graphics card do you have? | 12:00 |
Mattish91 | Nvidia Geforce gt 555M | 12:00 |
darkxst | nvidia blob or nouveau? | 12:01 |
Mattish91 | have no idea | 12:02 |
Mattish91 | what does that mean? :P im from sweden, im sorry :P | 12:02 |
darkxst | propriety driver? or open source driver? | 12:03 |
Mattish91 | i dont know, havn't been asked to install any graphics driver, i guess open source then? | 12:04 |
darkxst | probably | 12:04 |
darkxst | try install 'nvidia-current' | 12:05 |
Mattish91 | is there any way to install drivers from a live usb or do i have to re install? it doesnt matters what i do, i dont have anything important in the distro. | 12:05 |
darkxst | sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 12:06 |
darkxst | then reboot | 12:06 |
Mattish91 | well i got E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current | 12:06 |
darkxst | oh you might need to enable multiverse or something | 12:08 |
Mattish91 | ok | 12:08 |
Mattish91 | multiverse should be enabled, still got E: Unable to lacate package nvidia-current | 12:10 |
darkxst | sorry its in restricted | 12:11 |
Mattish91 | now it's working,restarted terminal and got it installing | 12:11 |
Mattish91 | thanks for your help, ill try to restart now then :) | 12:12 |
sweeze | anyone having trouble getting empathy to connect to aim/yahoo (haze) accounts w/ the staging ppa enabled? ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1174369 ) | 16:12 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1174369 in Ubuntu GNOME "aim/yahoo accounts never connect" [Undecided,New] | 16:12 |
FrozenFire | Is it possible to disable notifications of Empathy contacts coming online/going offline? | 16:21 |
FrozenFire | That's my biggest beef with Empathy and the notification system on gnome-shell, because the notification area blocks the most important part of my screen. | 16:22 |
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