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Ponch0hey guys so I installed 13.04 gnome remix, I added a ppa for the new gnome web browser - did sudo update & and upgrade - and gdm wouldn't start being a noob that I am, I had to reinstall - in that case what are my options? I was able to get into the terminal with f100:24
Ponch0gdm wouldn't start after restart that is.00:25
Ponch0i had the mouse cursor00:25
darkxstPonch0, did you use 'dist-upgrade'?00:26
Ponch0Also - one more question - what is a staging PPA I can add that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 staging00:27
Ponch0nope just 'upgrade'00:27
darkxstPonch0, you must do 'dist-upgrade'!00:27
Ponch0that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 updates without adding that unity gunk.00:27
darkxststaging ppa is for things that still have regressions and/or known issues00:27
Ponch0oh than the 'stable' ppa?00:27
Ponch0oops on the upgrade - good to know for future reference I probably installed lightdm and there was some type of conflict.00:28
darkxstPonch0, just run it now, it should fix things00:28
Ponch0I already reinstalled the system I have to set everything up again hehe.00:28
darkxstoh00:29
Ponch0I couldn't get on the computer to look up what I could do - it was my only option.00:29
Ponch0I couldn't get to the part where it asked me for login.00:29
Ponch0so is there a PPA I could add that will add the stable gnome apps - it seems pretty bare which I guess isn't a bad thing.00:31
Ponch0and stable updates? or is that already covered?00:31
darkxstPonch0, gnome3 PPA is stable00:31
Ponch0and if I add that - it won't mess up my install with some unity gunk right?00:31
darkxstPonch0, why would we have unity gunk in a gnome3 ppa?00:32
Ponch0lol because somehow I just ended up without being able to log in by just adding the gnome web browser ppa00:33
Ponch0but now I know that wasn't the reason.00:33
Ponch0darkxst: anyway thank you for answering my seemingly silly questions.00:35
darkxstnp00:36
Ponch0so a quick recap - I should never do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" but rather "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"??00:39
darkxstjbicha, ok to copy updated g-c-c to staging?01:01
jbichadarkxst: I didn't test it, but I trust your judgment01:06
jbichayou have to have a hard-coded list of possible external panels?01:06
darkxstthat is only for the launchers01:07
jbichaand things work fine if those external panels aren't installed?01:07
darkxstactual .so panels get loaded dynamically.01:07
darkxstjbicha, sure, it will just ignore any entry it can't find the desktop file for01:08
darkxstthe only other alternative was to bring back the gmenu code, and scan all desktop files.01:12
darkxstand that is overly complicated and messy code.01:13
jbichait might be better; that way we can tell apps that only provide external launchers to ship a separate .desktop with NotShowIn=Unity; and the settings panel with NotShowIn=GNOME;01:14
jbichagufw (gui-ufw) is another one01:14
jbichamyunity was one but that only lasted a few months01:15
darkxstyeh I got gufw in the patch already01:21
jbichaoh it doesn't need to be renamed to match the new naming convention?01:22
darkxstno, launchers dont need to have a specific name format, since they are just read from the list.01:26
jbichaok01:31
jbichadarkxst: there's an interesting patch at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692253 I don't think I'll be able to look into it at the moment01:36
ubot5Gnome bug 692253 in User Accounts "user-accounts: empty login history window" [Normal,Unconfirmed]01:36
jbichadarkxst: you're not on saucy yet are you?01:56
darkxstyeh01:56
jbichaI might have broken gnome-shell 3.6 by uploading gjs today01:57
darkxstgjs 1.36?01:58
jbichayes01:58
darkxst3.6 works fine with that, however there was one redundant line in the JS that needed to be removed01:58
darkxstnot sure if that was fixed upstream01:58
darkxstjbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621204/02:02
jbichadarkxst: do you want to make a debdiff for that?02:04
darkxstsure02:04
darkxstjbicha, http://pastebin.com/rutneiZR02:10
jbichacool, gnome-control-center works02:15
jbichadarkxst: thanks, good night02:21
darkxstnp, good night02:22
Ponch0Hello, so my ubuntu software center is crashing again, I cannot open it or rather I open it and it immediately closes. So i purged it and tried to reinstall it - here's what popped up and i'm not sure what it means http://pastebin.com/TxD80K9D04:32
darkxstricotz, are we using gnome region panel (or language selector) in 3.6 g-c-c? I don't remember07:33
userPlease help me. How can I install ubuntu gnome with efi?10:37
Mattish91hello11:47
Mattish91any one else but me who got troubbles with gnome updates_11:47
Mattish91?|11:47
Mattish91hello?11:48
Mattish91anyone here??11:49
darkxstwhat troubles?11:49
darkxstdid you do a dist-upgrade?11:49
Mattish91Yes, and then updated gnome to gnome 3.811:50
Mattish91now i cant login due to a gnome error11:50
darkxstcan you paste the error?11:50
Mattish91its just Cant load gnome11:50
Mattish91so i wont be able to login11:51
darkxstand you did a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after installing the ppa?11:51
Mattish91yes11:52
Mattish91also apt-get update11:52
Mattish91before11:52
darkxstMattish91, I need to see logs11:52
Mattish91how do i get those? im on a live usb atm11:52
darkxst~/.cache/gdm/session.log11:52
Mattish91ok 1 sec11:53
darkxst/var/log/gdm/*11:53
Mattish91im not allowed to see any logs in that folder, should i change the permissions?11:54
darkxstsudo -s11:54
Mattish91the folder is empty :S11:55
darkxstare you using gdm?11:55
Mattish91yes, i had to update the folder :S11:57
Mattish91what file did you need?11:57
darkxststart with :0-greeter.log11:57
Mattish91can i send that file or do i need to copy it?11:57
darkxstPastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com11:58
darkxstalso ~/.cache/gdm/session.log (if things got that far)11:58
Mattish91:o-greeter.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622390/11:59
darkxstcould be a glx problem, what graphics card do you have?12:00
Mattish91Nvidia Geforce gt 555M12:00
darkxstnvidia blob or nouveau?12:01
Mattish91have no idea12:02
Mattish91what does that mean? :P im from sweden, im sorry :P12:02
darkxstpropriety driver? or open source driver?12:03
Mattish91i dont know, havn't been asked to install any graphics driver, i guess open source then?12:04
darkxstprobably12:04
darkxsttry install 'nvidia-current'12:05
Mattish91is there any way to install drivers from a live usb or do i have to re install? it doesnt matters what i do, i dont have anything important in the distro.12:05
darkxstsudo apt-get install nvidia-current12:06
darkxstthen reboot12:06
Mattish91well i got E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current12:06
darkxstoh you might need to enable multiverse or something12:08
Mattish91ok12:08
Mattish91multiverse should be enabled, still got E: Unable to lacate package nvidia-current12:10
darkxstsorry its in restricted12:11
Mattish91now it's working,restarted terminal and got it installing12:11
Mattish91thanks for your help, ill try to restart now then :)12:12
sweezeanyone having trouble getting empathy to connect to aim/yahoo (haze) accounts w/ the staging ppa enabled? ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1174369 )16:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 1174369 in Ubuntu GNOME "aim/yahoo accounts never connect" [Undecided,New]16:12
FrozenFireIs it possible to disable notifications of Empathy contacts coming online/going offline?16:21
FrozenFireThat's my biggest beef with Empathy and the notification system on gnome-shell, because the notification area blocks the most important part of my screen.16:22

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