[00:24] <Ponch0> hey guys so I installed 13.04 gnome remix, I added a ppa for the new gnome web browser - did sudo update & and upgrade - and gdm wouldn't start being a noob that I am, I had to reinstall - in that case what are my options? I was able to get into the terminal with f1
[00:25] <Ponch0> gdm wouldn't start after restart that is.
[00:25] <Ponch0> i had the mouse cursor
[00:26] <darkxst> Ponch0, did you use 'dist-upgrade'?
[00:27] <Ponch0> Also - one more question - what is a staging PPA I can add that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 staging
[00:27] <Ponch0> nope just 'upgrade'
[00:27] <darkxst> Ponch0, you must do 'dist-upgrade'!
[00:27] <Ponch0> that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 updates without adding that unity gunk.
[00:27] <darkxst> staging ppa is for things that still have regressions and/or known issues
[00:27] <Ponch0> oh than the 'stable' ppa?
[00:28] <Ponch0> oops on the upgrade - good to know for future reference I probably installed lightdm and there was some type of conflict.
[00:28] <darkxst> Ponch0, just run it now, it should fix things
[00:28] <Ponch0> I already reinstalled the system I have to set everything up again hehe.
[00:29] <darkxst> oh
[00:29] <Ponch0> I couldn't get on the computer to look up what I could do - it was my only option.
[00:29] <Ponch0> I couldn't get to the part where it asked me for login.
[00:31] <Ponch0> so is there a PPA I could add that will add the stable gnome apps - it seems pretty bare which I guess isn't a bad thing.
[00:31] <Ponch0> and stable updates? or is that already covered?
[00:31] <darkxst> Ponch0, gnome3 PPA is stable
[00:31] <Ponch0> and if I add that - it won't mess up my install with some unity gunk right?
[00:32] <darkxst> Ponch0, why would we have unity gunk in a gnome3 ppa?
[00:33] <Ponch0> lol because somehow I just ended up without being able to log in by just adding the gnome web browser ppa
[00:33] <Ponch0> but now I know that wasn't the reason.
[00:35] <Ponch0> darkxst: anyway thank you for answering my seemingly silly questions.
[00:36] <darkxst> np
[00:39] <Ponch0> so a quick recap - I should never do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" but rather "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"??
[01:01] <darkxst> jbicha, ok to copy updated g-c-c to staging?
[01:06] <jbicha> darkxst: I didn't test it, but I trust your judgment
[01:06] <jbicha> you have to have a hard-coded list of possible external panels?
[01:07] <darkxst> that is only for the launchers
[01:07] <jbicha> and things work fine if those external panels aren't installed?
[01:07] <darkxst> actual .so panels get loaded dynamically.
[01:08] <darkxst> jbicha, sure, it will just ignore any entry it can't find the desktop file for
[01:12] <darkxst> the only other alternative was to bring back the gmenu code, and scan all desktop files.
[01:13] <darkxst> and that is overly complicated and messy code.
[01:14] <jbicha> it might be better; that way we can tell apps that only provide external launchers to ship a separate .desktop with NotShowIn=Unity; and the settings panel with NotShowIn=GNOME;
[01:14] <jbicha> gufw (gui-ufw) is another one
[01:15] <jbicha> myunity was one but that only lasted a few months
[01:21] <darkxst> yeh I got gufw in the patch already
[01:22] <jbicha> oh it doesn't need to be renamed to match the new naming convention?
[01:26] <darkxst> no, launchers dont need to have a specific name format, since they are just read from the list.
[01:31] <jbicha> ok
[01:36] <jbicha> darkxst: there's an interesting patch at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692253 I don't think I'll be able to look into it at the moment
[01:36] <ubot5> Gnome bug 692253 in User Accounts "user-accounts: empty login history window" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[01:56] <jbicha> darkxst: you're not on saucy yet are you?
[01:56] <darkxst> yeh
[01:57] <jbicha> I might have broken gnome-shell 3.6 by uploading gjs today
[01:58] <darkxst> gjs 1.36?
[01:58] <jbicha> yes
[01:58] <darkxst> 3.6 works fine with that, however there was one redundant line in the JS that needed to be removed
[01:58] <darkxst> not sure if that was fixed upstream
[02:02] <darkxst> jbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621204/
[02:04] <jbicha> darkxst: do you want to make a debdiff for that?
[02:04] <darkxst> sure
[02:10] <darkxst> jbicha, http://pastebin.com/rutneiZR
[02:15] <jbicha> cool, gnome-control-center works
[02:21] <jbicha> darkxst: thanks, good night
[02:22] <darkxst> np, good night
[04:32] <Ponch0> Hello, so my ubuntu software center is crashing again, I cannot open it or rather I open it and it immediately closes. So i purged it and tried to reinstall it - here's what popped up and i'm not sure what it means http://pastebin.com/TxD80K9D
[07:33] <darkxst> ricotz, are we using gnome region panel (or language selector) in 3.6 g-c-c? I don't remember
[10:37] <user> Please help me. How can I install ubuntu gnome with efi?
[11:47] <Mattish91> hello
[11:47] <Mattish91> any one else but me who got troubbles with gnome updates_
[11:47] <Mattish91> ?|
[11:48] <Mattish91> hello?
[11:49] <Mattish91> anyone here??
[11:49] <darkxst> what troubles?
[11:49] <darkxst> did you do a dist-upgrade?
[11:50] <Mattish91> Yes, and then updated gnome to gnome 3.8
[11:50] <Mattish91> now i cant login due to a gnome error
[11:50] <darkxst> can you paste the error?
[11:50] <Mattish91> its just Cant load gnome
[11:51] <Mattish91> so i wont be able to login
[11:51] <darkxst> and you did a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after installing the ppa?
[11:52] <Mattish91> yes
[11:52] <Mattish91> also apt-get update
[11:52] <Mattish91> before
[11:52] <darkxst> Mattish91, I need to see logs
[11:52] <Mattish91> how do i get those? im on a live usb atm
[11:52] <darkxst> ~/.cache/gdm/session.log
[11:53] <Mattish91> ok 1 sec
[11:53] <darkxst> /var/log/gdm/*
[11:54] <Mattish91> im not allowed to see any logs in that folder, should i change the permissions?
[11:54] <darkxst> sudo -s
[11:55] <Mattish91> the folder is empty :S
[11:55] <darkxst> are you using gdm?
[11:57] <Mattish91> yes, i had to update the folder :S
[11:57] <Mattish91> what file did you need?
[11:57] <darkxst> start with :0-greeter.log
[11:57] <Mattish91> can i send that file or do i need to copy it?
[11:58] <darkxst> Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <darkxst> also ~/.cache/gdm/session.log (if things got that far)
[11:59] <Mattish91> :o-greeter.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622390/
[12:00] <darkxst> could be a glx problem, what graphics card do you have?
[12:00] <Mattish91> Nvidia Geforce gt 555M
[12:01] <darkxst> nvidia blob or nouveau?
[12:02] <Mattish91> have no idea
[12:02] <Mattish91> what does that mean? :P im from sweden, im sorry :P
[12:03] <darkxst> propriety driver? or open source driver?
[12:04] <Mattish91> i dont know, havn't been asked to install any graphics driver, i guess open source then?
[12:04] <darkxst> probably
[12:05] <darkxst> try install 'nvidia-current'
[12:05] <Mattish91> is there any way to install drivers from a live usb or do i have to re install? it doesnt matters what i do, i dont have anything important in the distro.
[12:06] <darkxst> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:06] <darkxst> then reboot
[12:06] <Mattish91> well i got E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current
[12:08] <darkxst> oh you might need to enable multiverse or something
[12:08] <Mattish91> ok
[12:10] <Mattish91> multiverse should be enabled, still got E: Unable to lacate package nvidia-current
[12:11] <darkxst> sorry its in restricted
[12:11] <Mattish91> now it's working,restarted terminal and got it installing
[12:12] <Mattish91> thanks for your help, ill try to restart now then :)
[16:12] <sweeze> anyone having trouble getting empathy to connect to aim/yahoo (haze) accounts w/ the staging ppa enabled? ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1174369 )
[16:12] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1174369 in Ubuntu GNOME "aim/yahoo accounts never connect" [Undecided,New]
[16:21] <FrozenFire> Is it possible to disable notifications of Empathy contacts coming online/going offline?
[16:22] <FrozenFire> That's my biggest beef with Empathy and the notification system on gnome-shell, because the notification area blocks the most important part of my screen.