[00:09] tmoenicke: when I add https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,54752 can I drop the old fix_maliit_activation.patch fix touches the same pace in code? [00:09] + [00:15] does anyone else notice that module "QtQuick.Particles" is not installed [00:16] maybe it is just my image but app will not run because it is not installed [00:16] hi bobweaver [00:16] Hey Rick how are you today ? [00:16] bobweaver, are you trying to run your app from qtcreator? [00:16] hey bobweaver I'm doing well [00:16] nope I am compiling on device [00:16] himmm [00:17] rickspencer3, I will try right now. I was using ssh to compile on [00:17] I think that there is no lib for particals [00:17] bobweaver, did you see anything useful in Tools -> Ubuntu -> Device Package Management in QtCreator? [00:17] I suppose you need to install the dependencies [00:18] that is my guess [00:18] bobweaver: qtdeclarative5-particles-plugin ? [00:18] bzoltan, ^ sound at all right? [00:18] correct it is not installed [00:18] bobweaver, yeah, so if I were you, I would try installing it on the device [00:18] but, that might not be the right approach ;) [00:19] if/when the app is packaged then adding qtdeclarative5-particles-plugin into its dependencies [00:19] or, of course, if we decide that it should be part of all images anyway [00:19] updateing and upgrading now thanks rickspencer3 I did not see the extrenal tools [00:19] as ubuntu-sdk does pull that one in as well for the developers [00:20] might be libdecaliritive-particals [00:20] or whatever it is called [00:20] had the same issue with TV [00:21] bobweaver: yes the qt quick module is libqt5quickparticles5 [00:21] and the QML plugin is the former [00:22] [20:22:19] E [00:22] [20:22:19] : Unable to locate package libqt5quickparticles5 [00:22] [20:22:19] adb finished with code 0 || I will run apt-cache [00:23] bobweaver: is your device running quantal or raring? [00:23] Quantal [00:24] I should up{grade,date} [00:24] but DL images ect with multirom ...... [00:24] * bobweaver is beeing lazy [00:26] with quantal maybe do add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper [00:26] and apt-get update. since if it's not there you can't install new Qt5 libraries that weren't in the image [00:27] Good idea Mirv I am on it [00:27] has anybody sorted out changing the time zone? [00:27] I guess I can probably shell in and run date or tz [00:27] MIrv what is passwd ? [00:28] nm it is phablet [00:29] yes it is [00:36] "qtdeclarative5-particles-plugin" [00:37] and the lib also /me crosses fingers [00:37] \o/ [00:38] Thanks Mirv and Rick [00:39] Looks like I can install myth-tv frontend ! [00:39] np :) [00:39] This is AWESOME !! === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === _salem is now known as salem_ [01:31] Wow you guys I had no clue that I could update and install armel packages. This is awesome. Seems like I can mod the qml-phone-shell abd make it be robust (not that it is not ) but it is opening up all sorts of doors === salem_ is now known as _salem === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|away [05:11] Anyone knows anything about the 'Unable to open MNT device' [05:12] I am stuck [05:13] buhala, This trying open the android device on your computer? [05:13] Yeah [05:14] buhala, What is the OS? [05:14] Ubuntu 13.04 [05:14] buhala, Whats the device [05:14] and android release [05:14] Samsung galaxy nexus(maguro); Android 4.2.2, cyanogenmod [05:15] hmm I surprised, have you installed the ppa stuff? [05:16] Might be a samsung thing my nexus and droid come right up in 13.04 [05:16] It works 100% under Windows, so I have no idea [05:16] Should I try doing it in recovery mode? [05:16] buhala, So what is it you are trying to do though? [05:17] Install Ubuntu touch [05:17] buhala, Have you read the above links? [05:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install < I read this [05:17] Okay, it mounts just fine in Recovery mode -_- [05:18] Should I try installing it in recovery? [05:19] buhala, You have the phablet ppa loaded and have followed the instructions? [05:19] Yes, I have [05:20] I will just do the manual method, seems easier [05:20] You have the usb debugged in development ticked [05:21] Yeah [05:22] Yeah I would try the manual seems I had to do that once myself. [05:26] Well, I fucked up something [05:26] Have you done it using Clockwork? [05:27] buhala, nah, just from ubuntu [05:28] I found the developments really limited though so I'm waiting for more development. [05:30] Lol, I missed a major part in the instructions -_- [05:30] buhala, I wondered it is a bit different then loading a rom. ;) [05:30] You just need to install 2 things [05:31] you miss the tools? [05:31] Right now, I am thankful I have done so much shit to it I can no longer panic [05:31] !language | buhala [05:31] buhala: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [05:31] buhala, I figured you were okay running a custom rom. [05:31] Sorry :(. Anyway, I was just flashing the device specific file [05:33] I bricked my nexus 7 about a week ago inspite of knowing how it goes, took me about 45 minutes to fix it, lol [05:33] Then you did not brick it :D [05:34] true I had a bad backup was all. [05:34] I installed firefox OS, deleted my custom recovery, and had no way of transfering a custom rom [05:35] THen I just installed it with fastboot [05:35] Now I am reinstalling Cyanogen once again [05:36] Heh, nice thing with the nexus is the stock roms are available. [05:37] Yeah, thank god [05:37] I would bave been so royally screw'd when I could not flash anything else [05:37] nexus devices are the best! i regret buying my original htc desire instead of a nexus one [05:38] (but at that time, i had to since the nexus one wasn't going to be imported into my country) [05:38] C'mon nexus, boot [05:38] goddamnit, Cyanogen is borked [05:38] I have a droid dna from verizon brand new I will root it eventually and run something, don't really need to now. [05:40] What is the closest you have come to bricking the device? [05:40] just curious :D [05:43] Yaay, I booted [07:03] hallo. I would like to ask. Will there Ubuntu touch for HTC one V GSM, and Asus Eee Pad Slider SL101 [07:28] Hello everyone, I'm currently working on porting my two-step authenticator over to Ubuntu Phone, which will be QML + JS. I have a question regarding file IO, particularly reading / writing JSON data. It is my understanding that Qt5 does support JSON, however that is only available for C++ from what I can tell, and while I should be able to fetch JSON files using an XHR to the local file, that doesn't solve the problem with writing [07:28] to it. Any solutions? [07:29] QML does not have support for file operations. You will need to write in C++ a QML plugin or C++ backend that you can call from QML [07:30] Well that's a damn shame. [07:31] what is? [07:31] Needing to write a plugin in C++ [07:31] One could treat it as a fun exercise :) [07:32] Sure I could but I treat C++ like a plague :P [07:32] QML2 has JSON built in via JSON.parse() / JSON.stringify() [07:32] QML can interface with Python also if that's a lesser evil [07:32] chriadam -> Yes however that doesn't solve the problem of actually saving the file, just reading it. [07:33] but file i/o is a different kettle of fish. other than QtQuick2.LocalStorage you need C++. [07:33] Yes...C++ [07:33] Guessing no Local Storage support :\ [07:34] I'm sure it is supported, but it's an application-specific anonymous sqlite database, which might not help you too much ;-) [07:34] I'd rather implement that rather than work with C++ =D [07:34] *that than [07:35] I suppose I could probably have C++ just deal with file IO and the rest be JS. [07:35] * JoshStrobl dies a little inside. [07:39] You peeps think the QFile class should do the trick? [07:42] I do think so [08:04] The program I'm developing needs a Qt closer to 5.1 than the 5.0.1 on ubuntu touch. I'm having problems with the ubuntu platform abstraction, has anyone else had any luck Qt5.1.0 beta? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:03] Building all of this apps on Debian is a pain. Too many dependencies [09:05] Kakadu: I'm building on the device, partly because of that, partly because it can support building there. [09:05] hmmm [09:06] i.e. Ubuntu plugin for QtCreator supports that? [09:07] Um, building on the device, as in desktop is only supporting a terminal for ssh. [09:08] But I do have tested some coreapps on desktop! [09:08] ;3~;3~ [10:30] ubuntu touch on the first release was awful like waxwork. Is it useable now? [10:31] tell me love isn't true. it's just something that we do [10:32] you only see what your eyes whant to see [10:32] how can life be what you whant it to be? [10:33] your're frozen when your heart is not open [10:33] mmmm... if i could melt your heart [10:33] mmmm... we'll never be apart [10:33] mmmm.... give yourself to me [10:33] mmmm... you are the key [10:34] now there's no pointing blasing the blame [10:34] and you should know I suffer the same [10:34] if i loose you - my heart will be broken [10:34] love is a bird - she needs to fly [10:35] let all the hurt inside of you die [10:35] your broken - when your heart is not open [10:36] I thought that musical entr'actes appears only inn #haskell [10:38] next song: gang bang [10:38] like a bitch out of order like a bad out of hell [10:38] like a fish out of water [10:39] i'm scared can't you tell [10:39] bang bang [10:39] polydor, i don't think this is appreciated at all [10:39] you're flooding the channel so..... [10:40] please< don't ban me [10:40] then behave [10:40] it's so quiet [10:41] you're sitting in here to watch empty chat? [10:42] we are certainly not sitting here to watch nonsense === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [10:51] hi everybody [10:52] nik90, hi.. I do know if you remember me, but I am the one who had and still have with ubuntu-sdk in qtcreator [10:53] alo21: hey, I remember [10:53] u still having the issue? [10:54] nik90, I purged all the involved packages, and unfortunately I'm still having the issue [10:56] alo21: :( [10:56] alo21: I got nothing..since purging the packages should effectively start it from scratch [11:32] help === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === joshua is now known as Guest42985 [12:39] Hello everyone! Can anybody tell me where to get the source code of the keyboard used in the Ubuntu Touch OS? [12:57] hello; is there a way to test Ubuntu touch on a tablet without having to install it? (like in "live" mode?) [13:27] The new changes to Ubuntu component's header seem to bring all kinds of annoyances. I'm about to give up. [14:33] mzanetti: ping if you are free :) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:51] nik90: late-pong [15:51] mzanetti: I was looking through the commits for autopilot for the phone-app and saw that you coded switching between tabs [15:52] nik90: hmm... could be [15:52] mzanetti: with the latest update to ubuntu-ui-toolkit, the autopilot no longer works, do you plan to update it? [15:52] boiko: ^ [15:52] mzanetti: the reason I am asking is because I use the same code logic for the clock app...and I was hoping to use your fix :) === jhodapp__ is now known as jhodapp [15:53] jppiiroi1en: hey. do we have and ubuntu-ui-toolkit autopilot helpers by now? [15:54] nik90: so.. I've been proposing that the ubuntu-ui-toolkit delivers some helpers for their components because its a waste of time to update 20 test suites every time there is a change in some component [15:55] mzanetti: helpers? [15:55] mzanetti: +1 [15:55] mzanetti: as in we just call the helpers to do a certain task like switching tabs? [15:56] nik90: some python library coming with the ui-toolkit that will have something like "swtich_to_tab(3)" [15:56] mzanetti: as that would be perfect [15:56] and if the sdk guys change the tabs they update that lib and everything should be fine [15:56] mzanetti: I meant that would be perfect [15:56] zsombi: bzoltan1, jppiiroi1en: ^ [15:57] mzanetti: I will wait for that to land in the sdk before merging my autopilot tests in that case [15:59] zsombi: bzoltan1: jppiiroi1en: I think mzanetti's proposal is a good thing, right now we have to spend time fixing each and every app that have tests broken because of ui-toolkit internal changes === olli__ is now known as olli [16:05] boiko: mzanetti: sorry, I lost some of the conversation... were you requesting some helpers for testing the components? [16:06] zsombi: yes. so the thing is, every time there is a change in the panel or the tabs (or similar) all autopilot tests fall apart [16:06] zsombi: and people have to update 20 test suites [16:06] zsombi: yes, right now we need to get deep down into the internals of SDK components to be able to write some tests [16:07] zsombi: so the idea would be to have some small python lib that offers some few functions like switch_to_tab(int) or reveal_toolbar() and the like [16:08] zsombi: I've benn discussing that with jppiiroi1en. He knows the idea [16:08] it just came up again as the community apps start experiencing the same problem [16:08] boiko: right... jppiiroi1en can correct me, but so far I know that there will be some "helpers" for autopilot that will do some "gestures" for you, but not sure whether were plans to cover components specific actions... but the point is fair, changes in our components should not necessarily force you in updating your test cases. However, sometimes these changes are inevitable.. [16:09] zsombi: we were hoping to have things like switch_to_tab, reveal_toolbar, get_toolbar_button, etc in a centralized library or something [16:10] zsombi: right now it is being duplicated in every project that needs them [16:11] boiko: fair enough... if you have discussed this with jppiiro1en then you can be sure it's on the plans [16:11] zsombi: and when there is an internal change (not even an API change) in SDK, those things break [16:11] zsombi: I haven't, but mzanetti told me he already suggested that many times [16:11] boiko: we have the similar "duplicates" in our unit tests and we are preparing also a common module for that too [16:12] boiko: we've been discussing about those too :) [16:12] zsombi: good, good :) [16:19] mzanetti: i have not had time yet to work on it [16:19] is anyone else having troubles with the keyboard from the dash? when I click on it(search thing) the keyboard is not showing up. But if I ssh in and restart qml-phone-shell it works . any ideas ? [16:19] jppiiroinen-: ok... it just popped up again as the latest update broke apps tests again [16:21] http://imagebin.org/256084 << example [16:24] mzanetti: I just noticed that autopilot-qt is broken in the ppa due to some tests... it's a virtual builder thing [16:26] sergiusens: current autopilot-qt trunk won't work anyways as its ported to 1.3 already [16:27] sergiusens: not sure why that ended up in the ppa. IIRC there hasn't been a release commit [16:31] I have also been testing other lens like askubuntu files ect some of them work some do not all deamon's are running but some are just not showing up. I am going to build from source and see what happens [16:32] seems like sortproxyfilter is not working to its full potential. somehow I would like to read lensid mimetype and appid. maybe there is something in the shell that I am not seeing ? [16:32] feed dee [16:33] I mean catagory and well uri iconHint mimetype displayName comment dndUri would be the best [16:34] then maybe make propertys for them in abstractbutton ? [16:36] do you all think that that will not be fast enough ? I see that there is a timer that is for all that . IDK maybe I am off in left field but is qml-phone-shell going to use the same models as unity ? === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:52] I'm at about 18 hours with my ubuntu phone as a primary device right now; I've listed some troubles: http://piratepad.net/yTKYri3FWn Some of them probably have easy fixes (shell in and run tzinfo) [16:52] but others (the keyboard + the phone issues) might mean I have to switch back, or dual boot or something [16:53] hey folks [16:54] issackelly: For the WPA bug this is normal, WPA Entreprise is not yet implemented [16:54] Oranger great -- I can get onto our guest net, which works fine for my phone [16:55] issackelly: So that's good :) [16:56] can anyone help me? trying to flash ubuntu-touch on my nexus 4 (did that a few month ago once already and went back to android) but now i adb always responds device offline. also I didn't get the popup to allows adb fom the pc [16:56] KHendrik is USB Debugging turned on? [16:57] yes [16:57] The biggest ones today are the phone not really working for calls (sort of a show stopper if I can't debug it quickly) and the keyboard only sort of working [17:04] ogra_: any progress on the container switch btw? [17:09] shadeslayer, not this week === Borborygmi is now known as Casmo [17:12] ogra_: okay :) [18:02] hallo, testing Clock, I've noted that when I relaunch the app, it show the function was doing when closed insted to show the clock as default for every launch. [18:02] it is so by design or need to report a bug ? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:37] Hey Guys! Does anybody know how to get the source code of the keyboard used in the Ubuntu Touch OS? [18:38] jGleitz: Maybe on launchpad [18:39] Oranger: Yeah, I thought so too. So I searched a little. But I was unable to figure out where it could be. [18:42] sergiusens, rsalveti http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623567/ .... thats what i get installing the ubuntu-touch task in a saucy chroot (without any PPAs ... ) intresting package selection [18:42] i wonder if we actually need to loosen some deps of archive packages [18:51] ogra_: for sure [18:52] i wonder what pulls in things like gnome-session-bin or gnome-menus [18:52] * ogra_ will try a build with PPAs now === sforshee` is now known as sforshee [19:10] I read that Ubuntu has announced 13.04 on touch screens on April 25. Does anyone know where to get it? [19:12] I have this code in my App: [19:12] “Canvas { [19:12] onPaint: { [19:12] var ctx = canvas.getContext('2d'); [19:12] } [19:12] }” [19:12] This very code leads to the error, that the app exists with [19:12] “The program has unexpectedly finished. [19:12] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene exited with code 0“ [19:12] all the time. Has anybody any clues how to solve that? [19:14] reg__: Do you mean the Ubuntu Touch OS? You can get that following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch [19:15] Can any one tell me how to kill qml-phone-shell and make it so that it dont start again ? [19:16] I am trying to hack the shell and everytime after deploy the dang things restarts over the top of my code (altered shell) making it so that I can not debug MouseAreas and what not :( [19:19] No, I do mean 13.04 Ubuntu on tablets. See the announcement at http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/ubuntu-13-04-boosts-graphics-performance-to-prepare-for-phones-tablets/ === brion_ is now known as brion [19:26] reg__: I don’t get what you mean. Can you point out the sentence or paragraph that you mean? I think the article is exclusively about the new Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop & Server and mentions that Unity is prepared to run on tablets. It’s called an “prelude to Ubuntu’s release on a range of mobile form factors”. [19:27] bobweaver: I asked few questions about your MR [19:44] bzoltan1, sorry I must have missed them what where they ? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [19:56] bzoltan1, I have answered the questions about the MR. well all but 2 that I do not understand [19:57] the 1) one and the 7th one. [19:58] I think that you are asking why in qdocconf is te Project name changed ? this is to take care of whitespacing in names for generation [20:03] jGleitz, http://gitorious.org/maliit [20:05] I am sure that there is a different branch to chase down though [20:06] bobweaver: Thank you very much! === popey_ is now known as popey [20:12] bobweaver: Can you explain that more detailed to me? As far as I get it, Maliit is a framework for writing input methods. Does the Ubuntu Touch keyboard use it? How can I use it to write an keyboard for my app for Ubuntu Touch? Do you know where the source code of the keyboard of the Ubuntu Touch OS itself is? [20:13] jGleitz, I am not sure I just started learning about all that today myself [20:13] not even sure if Ubuntnu Touch is using it though I do think that it is [20:13] https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/maliit-plugins https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/maliit-framework [20:13] bobweaver: Okay, but thank you anyway! [20:20] netcurli: Interesting, Malii is available through the phablet ppa. Do you know more about this? Is the Ubuntu Touch keyboard implemented via Malii and how can we us Malii? [20:20] nercurli: Thank you! [20:22] jGleitz, the Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 17) says: "- Maliit keyboard replaced the Nemo keyboard." [20:23] Okay [20:23] I don't know though, how exactly that all works [20:29] Swype looks cool ! [20:31] jGleitz, https://wiki.maliit.org/Plugins looks like it would be fun to hack on [20:32] I think so as well. [20:34] bobweaver: I branched lp:phablet-extras/maliit-framework, but unfortunately I am unable to build it [20:39] does anyone know how to get platform version/release info in qt? [20:40] Ooops, there are packages for Maliit. I finally got it up and running (http://ubuntuone.com/0qIO4X8gpy3jzOHYCy6Txu). But what now? [20:44] dobey: Does this help you? http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qsysinfo.html [20:45] jGleitz: no, that seems to only provide the version and only on mac and windows [20:45] dobey, you have tried qtmobility ? [20:46] bobweaver: no, and i wouldn't know where to look, as it's a bunch of different modules, and they aren't packaged on ubuntu [20:46] at least, the qt5 versions aren't packaged === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [20:47] there is a part of the qtmobility stack that i will need (and will use) in the future, but unrelated to this problem [20:48] dobey: which information do you exactly need? [20:48] Saviq, who should i bug about test problems for phone-app? [20:49] jGleitz: os name, os version, machine (at least, that's what the current python code is getting from the platform module) [20:50] and i don't see anything in the mobility add-ons that would do it [20:54] sergiusens: are you the one to ask about which hud versions get into the ubuntu touch images? [21:32] can anyone tell me how the phone-sessions thingy works ? I have restarted the service but I want to alter it so that it wont start qml-phone-shell so this why when I send code to device it will restart the services and then compile the shell [21:33] Mirv: cool, where the QColor thing land? the ppa? s-series? [21:34] bobweaver, /etc/prone-services [21:34] err [21:34] phone-services [21:34] yeah I was looking at that if I just remove the one line ? [21:34] or if you run on a tablet "tablet-services" [21:34] bobweaver: just use ./run_on_device fromt the unity-phablet repo, it'll do "the right thing" [21:34] yeah [21:34] I think that that takes to long [21:34] ?¿ [21:35] how much is too long? [21:35] yeah if you just make a device then it takes alot less time to pass to devices and to check for diff [21:36] so everytime that I change the qml maybe 30 seconds with the deploy to ubuntu thingy about 4 with my way [21:36] I will try it right now and time it [21:39] it is about the same time. I guess that I could just make that a option in qtcreator [21:39] tsdgeos, mainly because I want to deploy from qtcreator thanks I willl try all that [21:45] Yeah it is not working keeps on saying that it fails :( [21:46] nm I am a dum dum I had a empty sting in a custom setup [21:46] thanks tsdgeos and Oranger [21:46] ogra_, * [21:46] yes ? [21:46] oh ok x) [21:47] bobweaver, oh, wait, you wanted to disable the qml-phone-shell ... thats essentially our WM ... cant do that [21:47] (sorry, i'm distracted, else i would have noted before) [21:48] yeah I want to stop qml-phone-shell and restart it but with the new Shell that I just hacked and uploaded [21:48] all ^^ from qtcreator [21:48] it is not pushing the new code though :( [21:49] Like for GreaterContent.qml I just added some dimple text to test it out and it is not pushing the new code as it is wanting the binary qml-phone-shell in the service [21:50] because the service is still calling the binary (qmnl-phone-shell) it will not change the look mybe need to replace it in the script for run_on_device [21:51] or could push via scp or sftp cmake make make install but the super user permissions are getting in the way :( [21:52] of sudo make install [22:08] tsdgeos: currently qt5-beta-proper [22:08] tsdgeos: ie together with 5.0.2 [22:09] tsdgeos: since webkit just built, the PPA actually is I think even testable [22:09] oki, tx [22:09] np [22:38] Has there been any updates? === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === jhodapp__ is now known as jhodapp [23:40] sergiusens: ping [23:42] mzanetti: pong [23:42] sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/phablet-tools/phablet-test-run-fix-installing/+merge/161990 [23:42] sergiusens: (just pinged because with all those meetings irc messages easliy get lost) [23:44] mzanetti: true [23:54] The announcement of Ubuntu 13.04 was also accompanied by video showing 13.04 running on a Nexus 7/10. Thanks, I will try using the Touch version for now.