[07:38] morning all [07:55] morning [08:08] morning [08:17] Good morning all, happy Sunflower Guerrilla Gardening Day! :-D [08:18] JamesTait: you made that up. [08:18] lol [08:18] http://guerrillagardening.org/community/index.php?board=306.0 er nope :) [08:20] this is all an elaborate ploy [08:20] MooDoo, it is a real thing: http://goo.gl/aQALS [08:20] JamesTait: I know I just pasted the link into the forums explaining it :D [08:20] Ooh. Very elaborate, JamesTait has even registered that domain under someone else's name [08:20] :) [08:21] BigRedS, my aliases are many and varied. ;) [08:23] haha [08:32] The Lemote has arrived off ebay ! Yay !! \o/ [08:37] wow , sen this nook for £30? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5011276.htm [08:46] * BigRedS is skeptical [08:46] My brother had the full-blown nook and that was irritatingly laggy [08:46] mungbean: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/120744-nook-simple-touch-plummets-in-price-to-29-glowlight-69 <--- Saw that yesterday [08:47] BigRedS: laggy for turning pages? [08:47] slower than a real book? [08:48] * DJones huggles his kobo touch [08:49] mungbean: just the UI; it wasn't clear whether you'd interacted with what you thought you had [08:49] really irritating to use, always waiting on the device to confirm whether it was about to do what you thought you'd told it [08:50] good for skinflint though? [08:55] perhaps. Personally I'd rather save and get something less annoying [08:55] I do get unduly annoyed at poor software, though [08:56] anyone used the google chart js tools? [08:56] i have a funky idea i don't know if its possible [08:57] want to use a slider that shows a different set of data e.g. show feb results, show march results - using a slider control [08:58] like this thing allows you to change view dependent on donuts http://code.google.com/apis/ajax/playground/?type=visualization#programmatic_control_changes [09:01] i think i have to make a whole chart for all results and then filter feb/mar like paris/USA http://code.google.com/apis/ajax/playground/?type=visualization#dependent_controls === luke2 is now known as NET||abuse [09:29] Morning all o/ [09:32] BigRedS, mungbean you could look to root it and stick another operating system on for that prince... http://www.rootmynooktablet.com/ [09:35] selinuxium: They're only ebook readers though rather than tablets [09:36] DJones, http://lifehacker.com/5926798/turn-your-rooted-nook-into-the-ultimate-ereader-with-these-10-apps there are many different sites for rooting the nooks... [09:37] It surprises me you can do that [09:39] selinuxium: yeah, the one thing I really liked about the nook was that you could git clone it off github :) [09:40] But, aside from a slightly less clunky browser, I'm not sure what more I'd want from my kindle [09:40] Emails are possible, but hard enough that I'd really rather not, which is perfect :) [09:43] It would make an even better ereader in that you could have the kindle app/kobo app/fb reader all on one device which would sync with the account === Flexa is now known as j0sh_ [10:02] hey guys [10:03] I've smashed my phone :( with no insurance :( [10:03] what's the deal on getting an ubuntu /android phone - any recommendations? [10:05] andylockran: the best target is a nexus 4 if you are buying a new one if that is what you mean [10:06] The Sony Desire Z is waterproof. If I get a new phone, it'll be that one I think [10:06] er, it's not a desire. It's an Xperia [10:07] I'm going to see if I can re-align the dilithium crystal which will hopefully reset the space time continuum. [10:08] the best response to a support ticket i've ever seen :D [10:08] sounds like the kind of thing I need to do to get this bloomin centos box working [10:08] lol [10:08] MooDoo: Hope they didn't do it with wet fingers, too much risk of a shock [10:09] why oh why is rpm the *official* package management system? [10:09] for centos? [10:09] 'cause it's rhel without the cool bits [10:09] though rpm's actually pretty sane these days [10:09] I believe it's the official one for free desktop [10:09] is that still a thing? [10:09] I like centos, use it myself [10:10] it used to be that all software was distributed in rpm and you had to alien it for debian, but now it's largely the other way round, which is nice [10:11] * SuperMatt nods [10:13] it's not *terrible*, I just... I can't ever figure out how to use it properly [10:13] haha [10:13] which is insane, because I'm a linux systems administrator [10:14] centos, redhat and fedora always seem to be fighting me [10:14] yeah, just need to get used to it. I got a bit fluent in it for a while when I was interfering with Centos frequently, and we've now replaced ubuntu with it at work so I'll be getting more familiar.... [10:14] oh it's easy :) lol [10:14] man rpm ;) [10:15] yeah yeah, but it's defaults like having selinux set to enabled and iptables populated with some gumph [10:15] aint nobody got time for that [10:16] SELINUX = DISABLED, there that's that one sorted and as for iptables, pah you don't need the firewall enableing ;) [10:16] I know! but those are defaults! [10:17] everything has some daft defaults that need fixing [10:17] yeah i know, i turned them off last night lol [10:18] MooDoo: yeah but your somewhat of a sadist I mean you pick on czajkowski so there is something not right with your head [10:18] MooDoo: morning by the way [10:19] davmor2: you do it daily to torment me [10:20] davmor2: morning, I don't pick on czajkowski I like her unlike you :p [10:20] davmor2: ok that was uncalled for..../poke czajkowski [10:20] happy May day everyone [10:20] czajkowski: I didn't say I was sane I was merely pointing out that MooDoo wasn't either [10:21] Myrtti: Yay it's May, and happy may day to you too [10:21] I'm perfectly sane thanks very much, now where that copy of dos 3.1 i want to hack into a webserver ;) [10:23] MooDoo: you fool you need OS warp for that [10:23] davmor2: damn forgot about OS/2 Warp..... [10:24] MooDoo: I knew there was a number in there I just couldn't remember what it was, it's been an odd couple of weeks [10:25] davmor2: any one would think you've been busy with distro releases or something! [11:06] just bought a nexus 4 [11:07] now, where to sell a samsung s2 with a smashed scren? [11:07] andylockran: ebay [11:08] what about - http://www.mazumamobile.com/ or a site like that? [12:21] the "fix" to window-switching within the same app alone is the best reason to upgrade to Raring [12:21] oh, nice [12:21] what does that do? [12:22] I don't think I noticed that change... what should I be making use of now? [12:26] mgdm: I'm assuming he means that you can you the scroll wheel on the mouse to flip between windows on the launcher app. ie 3 terminals open, hover over the terminal icon on the launcher and scroll will switch between them [12:27] oh [12:39] ah [12:49] oh, also that you can right-click on the app icon in the launcher to get a list of open windows [12:50] and a chap on reddit just told me that you can use Alt+` to do the same [12:50] (that's a backtick) [12:51] Yeah, that worked before, it's the same as Mac OS X [13:24] that nearly works quite well now [13:27] haha, yeah, I've just remembered how much more insane it used to be [13:40] backtick as in ` or ' [13:40] key above tab [13:40] On a UK kbd that is. [13:41] nope [13:41] key above tab, whatever [13:41] §½ that's what I get from key above tab ;-) [13:41] key above tab is a backtick [13:41] ` [13:42] right, so that advice is useless for most Finnish and Swedish users then [13:42] oh well. [13:42] No - What AlanBell said. [13:42] It's whatever is above the tab. [13:43] On a Swedish kbd its that squiglly s thing. [13:43] the simoleans sign. the currency used in The Sims! [13:43] section sign [13:44] used in law text in Finland [13:44] On french layouts it's a ^ or little circle. [13:44] weeeeeeeeeeird keyboards [13:45] oy, I love mine [13:45] it makes perfect sense for me. [13:46] backticks and hence the key to switch app windows are above left alt on Mac keyoards [13:50] I thought the idea of key above the tab was difficult to understand because it took me three tries to understand that [13:50] but that sentence. [13:52] I think I need more tea [13:52] tea sounds good [13:52] english breakfast [13:53] that or vanilla. Or chocolate chip. [13:53] yorkshire with whole milk [13:53] from teabags? [13:53] yup [13:54] yeah yorshire tea is my wifes fave tea [13:54] :( @ teabags [13:54] loose leaf tea++ [13:54] :) [13:54] Seeker`: finding Yorkshire for Hard Water as loose leaf has never been successful when we've run out. [13:55] even if it is teabags, it's still better than many others I've tried [13:55] Myrtti: use a water filter? [13:55] Seeker`: I do. That doesn't stop the kettle going furry altogether [13:56] I've never had to descale my water kettle in Finland, here I do it atleast twice a year [13:57] :/ [13:57] I've never ever had to do that ever [13:57] Then I've never lived for any time otuside of Scotland [13:58] Myrtti: tbh, I think that loose leaf tea in hard water areas still tastes better than stuff in teabags [13:58] but yeah, Yorkshire ♥ After I tried Yorkshire it was like an epiphany. Good tea (in comparison to the muck sold in Finland) doesn't taste absolutely horrid after letting it steep four minutes too long. [13:59] how long do you leave your teabags in the tea? [13:59] Tea is duisgusting. [13:59] "too long" [14:00] I'm sorry but I'm not a connoisseur by any stretch. I like tea, but not enough to stand by the teapot to time how many minutes I let it steep [14:01] Seeker`: i prefer it weak so I let the tea bag wave hello then remove it lol [14:14] TheOpenSourcerer: says he who drinks warm beer? [14:15] And what is wrong with proper beer? [14:15] hmmmm beer, i prefer it to lager i'm not afraid of a little flavour [14:15] Lahga is for northerners and kids [14:16] lahga, is that shoft for wife beater ;) [14:16] do they drink lager in the north? I always assumed it was more southern [14:16] The only people I know who drink Lahga are from 'tup North but now live down here. [14:17] So that must be a fact [14:17] Ahh [14:17] they've come south and gone soft [14:18] I'm from midlands and I use lagha to clean my loos as that's all it's good for ;) [14:18] I saw one at the Beer festival last last weekend and he actually said to me, he'd found some beer that tasted like Lahga. [14:18] Go figure. [14:18] haha [14:18] disgusting [14:19] https://twitter.com/peteDL1/status/328109981838753792 [14:20] I hope you unfriendd them [14:20] lahga, i will make a note of that, [14:20] Well, no; he's quite funny really. [14:20] he's a proper northerner and that's how he pronounces it. [14:22] is it lahga or laaaaaaaaaahga! ;) [14:22] lol [14:22] http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/40970.wss [14:23] could of made it cooler and said it was tron and cursor ;) [14:24] but very cool [14:26] beer around the world seems to be called Larger in some fashion, apart from america there they call beer cors they are the real criminals ;) [14:28] or in certain parts of europe, it is a pilsner, or a hefe-weizen. [14:29] http://www.beer-pages.com/images/lager-boy.jpg [14:29] so what's the background made of? [14:32] off to italy. [14:40] sara, that's interesting | I've been invited to Southern Italy this summer .. what is the cheapest flight for you ? === matt_symes is now known as headache [14:49] I've been to Italy a couple of times. Ryanair is almost always the cheapest, but you get what you pay for.. === michelle is now known as Guest42796 [15:04] ho ho ho [15:04] green giant? [15:05] now there's a blast from the past [15:05] *WWWHHHOOOPPP* [15:05] * Myrtti jumpglomps christle [15:06] AlanBell: http://www.buzzfeed.com/babymantis/20-pictures-of-chickens-wearing-sweaters-1opu [15:07] hey myrtti! ;3 [15:08] are you in the uk atm? :) [15:08] I am, stranded in the Fens while the D goes to the office to build meerkat burrows [15:10] i say! [15:10] you should bring D into london and come to my movie premiere on friday! [15:11] I would but his working hours are silly [15:11] well, rather, strict office hours [15:12] ah boo! [15:12] Afternoon all [15:12] Myrtti: that is quite cool, but my chickens have feathers :) [15:13] o/ christle [15:13] hullu diplo :) [15:13] Alanis! [15:13] * Seeker` wonders if christle forgot how to spell her name [15:13] Seeker`: yup! ;) [15:13] Blimey, christle long time no see. Been hiding ? [15:13] Ah, It is 'el' at the end, in case you were wondering :P [15:13] yes! you all scare me! [15:14] heh [15:15] I think she's hiding [15:18] AlanBell: I just thought they looked cute :-P [15:19] oh, did you see my egg skelter Myrtti? [15:20] http://www.omlet.co.uk/shop/kitchen/egg_skelters/8531/egg_skelter_red_for_medium_to_large_eggs/ [15:20] that's nice! [15:26] christle: hiya! [15:26] heey pretty [15:29] christle: you keep abandoning us, it's not nice :( [15:30] aww i will stop at some point! :P [15:32] abandoning you that is [15:36] Good afternoon peeps :) [15:38] 'noon [15:40] morning [15:41] czajkowski: Are you ok for a pm? [15:44] wth happened to nautilus in 13.04?? [15:45] It looks like something I made! (That is _NOT_ a good thing!) [15:46] * popey points daubers at upstream GNOME [15:46] sigh [15:46] * daubers gets the blowtorch [15:54] DJones: sure [16:02] woo, skype is now fixed for raring64 [16:02] Oh? I can undo the fix I jimmied in? [16:03] popey: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/8698327851/in/photostream [16:04] :D [16:04] I have space invader ones [16:04] I wanted decent space invader ones in silver. But the only ones I liked are sold out [16:06] bigcalm: I guess [16:06] it's working for me now [16:06] ooh, and they've fixed the thing where when it's pinned, if you click the button again it loads a new instance [16:07] I didn't have that trouble in 12.10 [16:07] Wish I could remember what it was I did to make skype work on 13.04 [16:07] did you follow a think on webupd8? [16:07] or did you downgrade a package? [16:07] I followed a thing [16:08] well done [16:08] I should google [16:08] I tend not to follow things unless I make sure I know how to undo the thing [16:09] redtape, i got invited today and they paid the ticket today so about 1000 for a return from glasgow [16:10] bigcalm: can you look through your history [16:10] history | grep skype [16:17] SuperMatt: it was by adding a 2 line export and run bash script in /usr/local/bin. Just removed it, updated, upgraded and happy skype once more [16:17] SuperMatt: thanks for the notification [16:20] 40 mins to quittin' time. 130 mins to beerin' time (LUG) [16:20] you're welcome [16:21] quittin time is in 10 minutes, then I'm going on a run [16:21] round regents park [16:21] quitting time here is in ~5.5 hours [16:21] I know it was only out on Thursday, but I'm surprised that there haven't been more updates for 13.04 [16:21] I'm waiting for the go-ahead to switch to 13.10 :D [16:21] popey: you can never quit the thinking machine. [16:22] SuperMatt: I'm guessing that you're in favour of the rolling release then :) [16:22] of course [16:22] most of the company are on a sprint [16:22] I'd expect more updates next week [16:22] also, on thursdays ☻ [16:22] popey: that is a very good point [16:22] which is tomorrow [16:23] I can't wait until the cutting edge gets upgraded automatically [16:23] popey: why Thursday in particular? [16:23] (if that's happening) [16:23] SuperMatt: not a fan of stability? [16:23] I am [16:23] I just don't have many machines that I'd call "production" [16:24] Daviey: this you? https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943487_655051764524280_436371696_n.jpg [16:24] doesn't look like him? [16:24] my laptop normally goes first, then my work desktop, then my home desktop, followed by my servers [16:24] MartijnVdS: the middle one, not the dog :P [16:25] bigcalm: oh! [16:25] I have to have my work station always working. My laptop gets the latest and greatest. Which has been my down fall on occasion when I've needed a unbroken laptop [16:26] the rate at which I convert is quite sporadic [16:26] basically, I'll convert everything else once I've found there's something on my laptop that I like soooo much [16:26] bigcalm: thursday is not friday [16:27] best not to release stuf on friday [16:27] ☻ [16:27] indeed [16:27] popey: also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 [16:27] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/raring-changes/2013-April/thread.html [16:27] quite a few updates [16:27] popey: I quite agree, the kernel team needs to agree as well some day [16:27] our rules for go-live here are "never after 3.30, and never on a friday" [16:29] bigcalm: not me! [16:29] MartijnVdS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzfQwXEqYaI [16:30] bigcalm: omg [16:32] bigcalm: why are my ears bleeding? [16:32] :) === headache is now known as headache_gone === headache_gone is now known as matt_symes === popey_ is now known as popey === adam___ is now known as kabads [21:54] !ping [21:54] pong! [21:55] pang [21:55] 5 hrs no talky must er a record [22:11] shhh [22:12] \o/ [22:12] hey all o/ [22:12] * mgdm listens to the Wurzels doing Common People [22:12] :o [22:13] hi daftykins [22:13] that sir, sounds like genius [22:13] popey: i ordered myself a Nexus 4 via the ship2me.co.uk couriers that bring things over from Southampton, in the end :) [22:13] heh [22:13] £12.50 for the service [22:13] i have another one on order, should arrive today [22:13] daftykins: it most certainly is [22:13] (I still hate them) [22:13] daftykins: on Spotify, if you have that [22:14] however, a friendly chap at the HMRC informed me that i can actually demand under UK law that they refund me the tax, as my order counted as an 'indirect export' outside of the EC \o/ [22:14] so i've told my latest Google Support pal 'Brianna' to pass this information on to the UK tax wing at Google, as one as lowly as a customer is not permitted to converse with them direct [22:14] and i expect my fob-off soon [22:14] ^_^ [22:15] popey: what're you doing with them then? :D [22:15] installing ubuntu on it [22:16] dropping it [22:16] i'm quite liking mine, super fast :) [22:16] i got one of these Ringke Fusion cases for it [22:16] wakka wakka [22:16] nice plastic around the side with a clear back so you can still see the pretty pattern on the rear :> [22:16] reminds me, wlil need to buy a cover for it [22:17] different colour one so I can tell the difference between them [22:17] orange? [22:17] wise! [22:17] #DD4814 [22:17] http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMRICK-Nexus-Google-Protective-Purple/dp/B00AF7JBKS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1367446668&sr=8-4&keywords=nexus+4+cover [22:18] aubergine! [22:18] COMMUNITY [22:18] hehe http://www.amazon.co.uk/iGloo-Silicone-Cover-Nexus-Mobile/dp/B00AZZN97Q/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367446705&sr=1-5&keywords=nexus+4+cover+orange [22:19] 10 of them! [22:19] how the hell did i not see this the other day 0o [22:19] heh :D [22:20] you know what always makes me laugh? [22:20] peeps selling screen protectors for products with gorilla glass [22:20] http://www.amazon.co.uk/iTALKonline-ORANGE-Bumper-Protective-Armour/dp/B00BSGNLLA/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367446808&sr=1-10&keywords=nexus+4+cover+orange [22:20] why is that odd? [22:21] gorilla glass still scratches badly [22:21] http://phandroid.com/2013/04/11/nexus-4-rant/ haha [22:22] i've taken keys to my HP Touchpad [22:22] 'twas fine [22:23] but then i think i just care for my gear better than most :D [22:23] mines got those new feet ^ [22:25] my tp got smashed [22:25] aww :( [22:25] by a falling bowl [22:26] but i replaced thew screen \p/ [22:26] :D [22:26] then it died from overdrawn battery [22:27] but i replaced the battery \p/ (harder than screen) [22:28] heh my nephew puts hour long minecraft vids hes made on youtube. i dont have clue wats happning [22:29] :) [22:29] i don't understand how anyone has the patience for minecraft [22:29] though, i'm not a creative person [22:29] plus i've lost interest with gaming entirely :D [22:29] if i was15 i would [22:29] =] [22:30] true [22:30] no time to be intrested now [22:30] it's funny when you see what the youngsters of today misspend their youth with [22:30] feeding babies and sleeping is all i do now# [22:31] keeps them off street corners [22:31] adoption? [22:32] if i had time id make more airfix models [22:32] irl is better [22:33] =] [22:35] bought new airbrush 6 weeks ago, haven't had spare second to try it yet [22:45] nice :)