[06:08] <Kilos> morning all
[06:55] <trender> (.)(.)
[06:55] <trender>   __
[06:55] <Kilos> hi trender 
[06:55] <trender> yo
[08:10] <Symmetria> sup
[08:10] <Symmetria> lol I was playing cards in a kenyan casino last night, won some money, but the kenyan currency doesnt exactly lend itself to carrying large sums of cash
[09:02] <Kilos> what does this mean 504 Gateway Time-out
[09:03] <Kilos> is that site dead
[09:04] <inetpro> Kilos: good morning
[09:04] <inetpro> what site?
[09:04] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[09:05] <Kilos> http://remastersys.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[09:05] <Kilos> maaz ping http://remastersys.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[09:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Error: unknown host http://remastersys.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[09:05] <inetpro> Kilos: http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E504.html
[09:06] <inetpro> Kilos: works for me
[09:06] <Kilos> oh my
[09:06] <Kilos> now its working, ty inetpro 
[09:07] <inetpro> eh, magic touch
[09:07] <Kilos> yeah
[09:07] <inetpro> :-)
[09:07] <Kilos> did you get sleeping pills for you friend
[09:07] <Kilos> s/you/your
[09:08] <inetpro> not yet
[09:08] <inetpro> but he's a clever dude, where would I put them?
[09:08] <Kilos> tell the gardener to try speaking to it in different languages
[09:08] <Kilos> you put them under the chickens skin
[09:09] <inetpro> sjoe, you want another one to be victimized? 
[09:09] <Kilos> then let him have that one 
[09:09] <Kilos> ya but you wring its neck first man
[09:09] <inetpro> ai!
[09:10] <Kilos> take an ugly one you dont like
[09:10] <Kilos> rofl
[09:10] <Kilos> you also one of those that buys chicken from checkers
[09:11] <inetpro> I don't have enough of my own to eat them yet
[09:11] <inetpro> now I have even less
[09:11] <Kilos> you never will if you dont put your friend to sleep
[09:12] <Kilos> then post him to japan or something
[09:12] <inetpro> can I make money with him?
[09:12] <Kilos> not if it bites
[09:12] <inetpro> ai!
[09:13] <Kilos> if not you can sell him as a pet
[09:13] <Kilos> but to someone far away or he'll be back like arnie
[09:15] <Kilos> you at work or home inetpro ?
[09:15] <inetpro> but when he comes back I can sell him again
[09:15] <inetpro> luckily at home
[09:16] <Kilos> ah you keep peeking out the window to see if hes come yet
[09:16] <Kilos> hehe
[09:17] <inetpro> he's nowhere to be seen this morning
[09:17] <inetpro> but I'm trying to be on high alert
[09:18] <Kilos> lol he knows, hide your bike
[10:27] <somaunn> Hi everyone
[10:28] <HawkiesZA_> Hi somaunn 
[10:29] <somaunn> HawkiesZA_, Hows life here ?
[10:29] <HawkiesZA_> Define here?
[10:35] <somaunn> HawkiesZA_, this channel
[10:38] <HawkiesZA_> aha. It's generally pretty quiet. Kilos can get quite chatty though ;)
[10:38] <Kilos> haha
[10:40] <HawkiesZA_> Howzit going Kilos?
[10:41] <Kilos> good ty and you HawkiesZA_ 
[10:42] <Kilos> i chatted to the fly and he said he will tell you what needs working on in the ibid greeter script
[10:42] <HawkiesZA_> Pretty good too. Sunny skies and <holds thumbs> passing code tests
[10:43] <Kilos> good luck
[10:43] <HawkiesZA_> Ah, excellent. He's been sick the past couple of days, hopefully he gets better soon
[10:43] <Kilos> eish poor man
[10:48] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[10:48] <Cantide> hello :)
[10:48] <Kilos> wassup somaunn 
[11:43] <charl> good afternoon
[11:44] <Kilos> lo charl 
[11:44] <charl> hi Kilos 
[11:44] <charl> how's it going
[11:44] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[11:44] <charl> i'm doing well thanks
[11:45] <charl> i just saw something strange, i was looking at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:45] <charl> ubuntu 12.10 reaches EoL april 2014
[11:46] <charl> but ubuntu 13.04 reaches EoL january 2014??
[11:46] <charl> that's very strange to me
[11:46] <Kilos> ya they shortened support time
[11:46] <charl> ah i see
[11:46] <Kilos> only LTS will get the long support
[11:47] <Kilos> and only LTS dvds will be supplied
[11:47] <charl> i think that is quite logical because cds are no longer being used much anyway
[11:48] <Cantide> yeah, and shorter support time frees them up for other things
[11:48] <Kilos> ya
[11:48] <charl> yeah it sounds logical to me as well
[11:48] <Cantide> those needing stability and support should only use LTS versions
[11:48] <Cantide> those wanted to test new features can try the versions in between
[11:48] <charl> was just surprised to see that 12.10 is supported until after 13.04
[11:48]  * Cantide is waiting for 14.04 :)
[11:49] <charl> i installed 13.04 on my laptop, but my lenovo laptop is very easy to keep up to date
[11:50] <Cantide> what do you think of 13.04
[11:50] <Cantide> i've downloaded the iso, but not yet been able to run it
[11:50] <charl> i still have 12.10 on my desktop at work, i actually wanted to install 12.04 but i had trouble getting it to boot
[11:51] <charl> i have a dell optiplex 9010 which comes with a uefi boot manager
[11:51] <Cantide> ah
[11:52] <charl> i run vmware so i am careful of just upgrading my work machine to a newer version of the linux kernel
[11:52] <Cantide> uefi :'(
[11:53] <charl> first need to make sure it is supported, if memory serves correctly my laptop is now running 3.7 but my desktop is still running 3.5
[11:54] <charl> but as far as 13.04 is concerned, i run kubuntu and have noticed very few differences
[11:54] <charl> just a general upgrade of all the software
[11:54] <charl> which is nice, in some small ways
[12:05] <charl> on a different note, does anyone here run an xmpp server?
[12:05] <charl> a xmpp, dunno
[12:08] <Cantide> an seems best there :p
[12:08]  * Cantide doesn't
[12:08] <Cantide> yeah, i think a lot of the changes in 13.04 were in unity
[12:24] <somaunn> Hi
[12:28] <charl> hi somaunn 
[12:29] <somaunn> Hi charl 
[12:33] <somaunn> any one tested ubuntu 13.04 or kubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:35] <charl> me for one
[12:35] <charl> i run kubuntu 13.04 on my laptop
[12:36] <somaunn> good
[12:36] <charl> i'm sure ubuntu would be well-tested by a number of people before it is released though, what specifically did you want to know?
[12:36] <somaunn> i'm actually runing both ubuntu & kubuntu 13.04
[12:37] <charl> oh good
[12:37] <charl> you can run the two together, you just need to have both the ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages installed
[12:37] <charl> then you can select which desktop environment you want to use when you login
[12:38] <charl> most login managers have an option to select the environment
[12:38] <somaunn> that's right
[12:38] <somaunn> but i've actually installed ubuntu on my Desktop and kubuntu on my laptop
[12:38] <charl> display managers i mean
[12:39] <charl> same here, although i am still running ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop
[12:42] <somaunn> despite the graphic card i'm using is not a pro card but things are okay
[12:42] <charl> i use intel hd graphics cards on both my desktop and laptop
[12:43] <charl> you don't need a fancy graphics card just to run a desktop these days
[13:05] <charl> wow got jabberd2 talking across ipv6, nice
[13:05] <charl> just had to uncomment a setting
[14:00] <charl> ciao
[14:47] <Symmetria> sup
[14:50] <Squirm> lo
[14:52] <Symmetria> squirm check this: http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey1.jpg (scaled down to a reasonable size just for you)
[14:53] <Symmetria> took that earlier while I was feeding the cute litlte bastard
[14:53] <Squirm> how kind of you
[14:53] <Squirm> it loaded instantly
[14:58] <Squirm> superfly_, Symmetria. how did you guys update your S3?
[14:58] <Squirm> lo Trixar_za 
[14:58] <Trixar_za> lo Squirm
[15:00] <Symmetria> squirm, went to software update somewhere in settings I think?
[15:03] <Squirm> it can't connect to the update server
[15:03] <Squirm> i'm sitting on 4.0.4
[15:28] <inetpro> Cantide, Kilos, superfly_ (with tail and all): seems to me it is a vervet after all
[15:28] <Kilos> ah
[15:28] <inetpro> similar to the one in Symmetria's photo above
[15:28] <Kilos> did you see it now
[15:29] <inetpro> Kilos: no not yet
[15:29] <Kilos> eish thats a clever one
[15:29] <Kilos> knows the gardener isnt a threat
[15:29] <inetpro> but got much better description from the gardener and the neighbors gardener 
[15:29] <Cantide> hey inetpro :)
[15:30] <Kilos> tomorrow hell be back
[15:30] <Cantide> judging by superfly_'s tail, it could be him 'o'
[15:36] <inetpro> Kilos: even on the neighbor's he has stolen about 5 chickens already 
[15:37] <Kilos> wow
[15:37] <Kilos> you sure its only one
[15:37] <Kilos> send the neighbour for sleeping pills
[15:37] <Kilos> hehe
[15:37] <inetpro> good question, but I doubt there are more
[15:38] <Kilos> oh they dont live in tribes like those down near durbs
[15:38] <Kilos> those with the blue nuts
[15:39] <inetpro> what he does is he does his catching and takes the chicken up in the tree... have a photo of a chicken that he left behind high in one of my trees
[15:39] <Kilos> wow
[15:39] <Kilos> so he will eat dead ones too thatys good
[15:40] <inetpro> will see whether he comes back for this one
[15:42] <inetpro> Kilos: see https://www.dropbox.com/sc/50mxt6re5br6wap/Cp8ipwWVEG
[15:44] <inetpro> have some late mealies and he loves that as well
[15:44] <Kilos> swine
[15:44] <Kilos> they not gonna make it i think, winter too close
[15:44] <inetpro> in fact in one of those photos he has a nice hiding place where you can see the feathers on the ground
[15:44] <Kilos> that site took long to open
[15:45] <Kilos> my 8ta is bad
[15:45] <Kilos> grrr
[15:45] <inetpro> ai!
[15:45] <Kilos> fone again tomorrow
[15:48] <Kilos> never mind they can be sorted. just gotta find the CEO's mail addy
[15:48] <Kilos> you cant ask them on the fone they bang the waves come down from the top
[15:52] <Kilos> did you get your iso jmagunduni 
[15:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:01] <Trixar_za> Yeah, me too
[16:01] <Trixar_za> I think it's the whole network
[16:02] <Kilos> ohi Trixar_za 
[16:02] <Kilos> mine is terrible. luckily no large upgrades
[16:02] <Trixar_za> It loads websites slowly
[16:02] <Kilos> yeah terrible
[16:02] <Trixar_za> And stuff lag. IRC seems fine though
[16:03] <Trixar_za> Whatsapp cuts out every now and again
[16:03] <Kilos> yeah and mxit
[16:04] <inetpro> Kilos: you really need a modem with an antenna for a stable connection
[16:05] <Kilos> no man i can see the tower from here
[16:05] <Kilos> not even one k away
[16:05] <inetpro> ai!
[16:06] <Kilos> straight out my window from here i see the light on it now
[16:07] <inetpro> Kilos: have you tried moving your PC and phone to a different spot in the house?
[16:07] <inetpro> sjoe, you even have direct line of sight?
[16:07] <Kilos> fone shows full connection anywhere in the area
[16:07] <Kilos> yessir
[16:07] <inetpro> hmm... 
[16:07] <Kilos> i see the red light on top
[16:08] <Kilos> its just the data thing thats sick
[16:08] <inetpro> maybe they moved the direction of the antenna on the tower
[16:08] <Kilos> they are omni drectional
[16:08] <inetpro> ai!
[16:08] <Kilos> arent they not directional
[16:08] <inetpro> guess it depends
[16:09] <Kilos> will just keep foning
[16:09] <inetpro> do it
[16:09] <Kilos> it was good so they cant blame anything else but their own equipment
[16:10] <Kilos> nm shows at times the signal drops to 1 bar then i get 1.6kB/s download speed
[16:10] <Kilos> grrr
[16:11] <Kilos> thats slower than gprs
[16:12] <Trixar_za> And for me it's slow if I use my 3G dongle or my phone
[16:13] <Trixar_za> So it's not so much the hardware as the service provider
[16:13] <Kilos> Trixar_za, inetpro see if you guys can find the CEO's mail addy
[16:13] <Kilos> ya its them
[16:14] <Kilos> his name is  Sipho Maseko the new Telkom CEO
[16:14] <Kilos> but i cant get a mail addy for him
[16:14] <Trixar_za> And he comes straight from Vodacom
[16:14] <Kilos> yip thats where our prob lies methinks
[16:15] <Kilos> one site with lotsa comments doesnt talk well of him
[16:16] <Kilos> maybe hes on twitter too
[16:16] <Kilos> Maaz, google Sipho Maseko on twitter
[16:16] <Maaz> Kilos: "Sipho Maseko (osmaseko) on Twitter" https://twitter.com/osmaseko :: "Twitter / mbulivuyo: Sipho Maseko's been appointed ..." https://twitter.com/mbulivuyo/status/318215316033372160 :: "Telkom Gets Ex-Vodacom South Africa Head Sipho Maseko as CEO ..." http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-28/telkom-names-ex-vodacom-south-africa-head-sipho-maseko-as-ceo.html
[16:16] <Maaz> :: "Good luck, Sipho Maseko (with tweets) · City_Press2 · Storify" http://storify.com/C…
[16:17] <Kilos> hehe
[16:17] <Kilos> osmaseko
[16:17] <Kilos> inetpro, is the tweet guy
[16:18] <Kilos> or ill use @ubuntuza to tweet him
[16:18] <inetpro> yikes!
[16:18] <Kilos> haha
[16:18] <Kilos> i knew that would get a reaction
[16:19] <Kilos> pity we so small though
[16:19] <Kilos> if we had 1000 followers he would skrik
[16:22] <inetpro> wow
[16:22] <inetpro> Telkom’s market capitalisation is 23 times smaller than Vodacom’s 
[16:23] <Kilos> what does that mean?
[16:24] <Kilos> only mobile or total
[16:48] <inetpro> Kilos: good question, I don't know actually. That comes from http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/technology/2013/03/28/telkom-appoints-maseko-as-ceo
[17:12] <Kilos> hi superfly magespawn 
[17:12] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:14] <magespawn> evening Kilos  superfly 
[17:14] <superfly> hi magespawn
[17:19] <Kilos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vervet_monkey
[17:20] <Kilos> haha inetpro start putting out booze for him and maybe you can catch him when he falls out the tree drunk
[17:23] <Kilos> im sure that the same type of monkey full up on the natal coast
[17:43] <Kilos> magespawn, whats news on the wgetting
[17:50] <magespawn> have not tried the iso yet, been a bit busy
[17:51] <Kilos> ah
[17:52] <magespawn> the network at the hotel is still not behaving properly
[17:54] <Kilos> ai!
[17:56] <magespawn> yup they have sent a guy from the head office, who is as stumped as me
[17:58] <Kilos> oh my. it must be fixable though
[18:02] <magespawn> i am sure it is, but we can't find what is causing the problem, so back in the trenches tomorrow
[18:03] <Kilos> take lotsa cable and replace one section at a time maybe
[18:09] <magespawn> we might end up doing that
[18:12] <Kilos> you have already kinda localised the bad area so it shouldnt be too much graft
[18:15] <magespawn> thats the thing, we are not really sure about anything
[18:19] <Kilos> oh my
[18:19] <Kilos> i thought the sections you disconnected were the prob ones
[18:28] <magespawn> the network loses it's internet connection every now and then, unplugging and replugging the router brings it back online
[18:29] <Kilos> oh not the same prob from months ago
[18:30] <magespawn> no but possibly related
[18:30] <magespawn> going to set up various pc to see if i can monitor the network
[18:30] <Kilos> you tried another router hey?
[18:31] <Kilos> i dont member so far back
[18:33] <magespawn> yup but al least one was fried by eskom/lightening, and another was definately faulty
[18:34] <Kilos> eish
[18:34] <Kilos> maybe the lines are cooked as well
[18:38] <Kilos> but that should only be from router out
[18:38] <Kilos> to the net
[18:38] <magespawn> might be an isp problem, but there is a big problem somewhere
[18:39] <Kilos> whew good luck
[18:44] <magespawn> i am sure we will get there
[18:45] <Kilos> yeah must be
[18:55] <magespawn> going to be fun finding it
[18:58] <Kilos> yeah
[18:58] <Kilos> learn lots
[19:01] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:07] <magespawn> anybody know about this http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/spyware-used-by-governments-poses-as-firefox-and-mozilla-is-angry/
[20:25] <magespawn> good night all
[21:51] <Guest7810> bbm pin 28888f44 plz invite me
[22:03] <superfly> ooo, that looks like it's ripte for spamming ;-)
[22:03] <superfly> *ripe