[00:00] <llldino> samskiter, What's your settings manager, sorry for repost
[00:00] <samskiter> llldino: thursday
[00:00] <ThePiousPriest1> any suggestions?
[00:00] <samskiter> llldino: i have no idea ;)
[00:00] <ThePiousPriest1> simply typing unity into terminal doesn't do it
[00:01] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: what are you trying. i just got myself out of a bit of tizzy with the missing taskbar with help from #kubuntu
[00:01] <ThePiousPriest1> just straight unity
[00:01] <ThePiousPriest1> tried unity-reset and unity--reset
[00:01] <samskiter> try pkill unity
[00:01] <samskiter> ?
[00:01] <samskiter> iunno
[00:02] <ThePiousPriest1> Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[00:02] <ThePiousPriest1> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:02] <ThePiousPriest1> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:02] <ThePiousPriest1> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:02] <ThePiousPriest1> Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[00:02] <FloodBot1> ThePiousPriest1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <samskiter> i did pkill plasma-desktop then i ran plasma-desktop again and i got my stuff back
[00:02] <ghyths> I'm trying to write bash scrip like (cat File | from line that have XXXX to line that has YYYY), I have tried to use cut, or grep but didn't work for me, is there any command can help ?
[00:03] <samskiter> i cant believe ubuntu are trying to realease a mobile operating system when stuff like this is still happening :(
[00:04] <ThePiousPriest1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620946/
[00:04] <ThePiousPriest1> sorry
[00:04] <WXZ1> I need to group similar windows, tile them, maximize all of them... and minimize them. So far, I have no way of doing this.
[00:04] <WXZ1> I'm using gnome2.
[00:04] <samskiter> looks nasty ThePiousPriest1
[00:04] <jrib> ghyths: #bash
[00:04] <ThePiousPriest1> :(
[00:05] <ghyths> jrib, !!!?
[00:05] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: im probs more noob that you and have no idea what to do
[00:05] <jrib> ghyths: visit the channel #bash.  They can help you with scripting questions
[00:05] <samskiter> so does anyone know how to fix suspend?
[00:05] <ghyths> thanks
[00:07] <ThePiousPriest1> sorry about that, if anyone sent me something, send it again plz
[00:08] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: all i said was that im more noob that you. other than that no1 replied i dont think
[00:08] <ThePiousPriest1> waiting to see if anyone came up with anything
[00:08] <ThePiousPriest1> I'd hate to do a bloody reinstall
[00:10] <Irish_Wolf> anyone use magic mouse?
[00:11] <ThePiousPriest1> Should I take silence as "looking at the output, brb?"
[00:11] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: ive just resigned to the fact that linux is a bit querky and unstable on my laptop
[00:11] <ThePiousPriest1> Works fine on my desktop i7 920 with 12 gigs of RAM
[00:13] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: yea i guess it works on some not others. what r GFX card?
[00:13] <samskiter> ur*
[00:13] <ThePiousPriest1> GTX 680
[00:14] <ThePiousPriest1> updated to 313 through software update menu
[00:14] <fosky> ThePiousPriest1, nice specs..this is a bit of a general question but where do you do your research about which components you choose?
[00:15] <ThePiousPriest1> practice google fu :)
[00:15] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: how do you update it? i cant update mine :(
[00:15] <ThePiousPriest1> Toms, etc.
[00:15] <ThePiousPriest1> CPU is a bit out of date
[00:15] <fosky> ah yes google fu, I know this
[00:15] <ThePiousPriest1> but can be OC'ed to insane levels
[00:16] <ThePiousPriest1> I swear, Unity is starting to become not worth the trouble
[00:16] <ThePiousPriest1> might need to start using gnome or KDE
[00:16] <fosky> ThePiousPriest1, when does it cause you trouble?
[00:16] <WXZ1> I need to group similar windows, tile them, maximize all of them... and minimize them. So far, I have no way of doing this. Bluetile, awesome, grid plugin, any window management system, gnome-do
[00:16] <ThePiousPriest1> now lol
[00:16] <fosky> what are you trying to do?
[00:16] <ThePiousPriest1> my side taskbar and top taskbar is missing
[00:16] <Fishscene1> greetings. I have a few scripts that I could previously run by double-clicking on them. Now that I'm on 13.04, these scripts open with an editor. How do I open scripts with the shell/terminal?
[00:16] <fosky> oh, that's no good
[00:17] <ThePiousPriest1> tried running unity and unity-reset
[00:17] <ThePiousPriest1> to no avail
[00:17] <ThePiousPriest1> I'm trying to see if it is the 13.04 update, the update to kernel 3.9 or a driver related issue
[00:17] <zizoo> Hey, can anyone help me get my .XCompose file working? I followed directions here: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ComposeKey and now it works for any program launched from a terminal, but still not for things I open from Nautilus or the main menu.
[00:17] <WXZ1> Fishscene1: I'm a bit out of date, but try right clicking them ... Properties > Permissions > *check* the Allow executing as program
[00:18] <fosky> just use Xmonad... you just need to know how to do a bit of haskell scripting, otherwise nothing ever "just works"
[00:18] <zizoo> fosky, do you mean me?
[00:19] <ThePiousPriest1> anyone else have a missing taskbar with unity?
[00:19] <WXZ1> sometimes things lack support which should be easy, it's quite strange
[00:19] <fosky> oh hai zizoo
[00:19] <fosky> didn't see you there
[00:19] <WXZ1> I need to group similar windows, tile them, maximize all of them... and minimize them. So far, I have no way of doing this. Bluetile, awesome, grid plugin, any window management system, gnome-do << I've failed with all of these.
[00:20] <fosky> zizoo, I wasn't talking to you, no
[00:20] <chop1n> Hey guys, is there a way I can configure the mouse wheel sensitivity/speed in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:21] <al_la> Does anyone know if the weather indicator applet is still available?  I can find in software center, but when I click 'more info' it says 'no package called indicator-weather found', and searching apt-cache yields nothing.
[00:22] <zizoo> oh well. yeah, XCompose is really weird to get working... I was thinking maybe you were suggesting Xmonad would put everything on base X11/xim windowy things. xD
[00:26] <sam113101> how do I start nginx?
[00:27] <Compy> I have an old 11.10 box, what would I do to go about disabling X/unity on startup so the machine boots in text mode to the console login screen? I don't want to uninstall the desktop, just disable it. I thought it'd be in gdm.conf (/etc/init), but no go
[00:28] <fosky> zizoo, unfortunately I wouldn't have the foggiest xD let me know if it does work though?
[00:28] <kapitan> @Compy: I think that you have to disable lightdm as a whole
[00:28]  * Compy tries update-rc.d
[00:30] <kapitan> ubuntu people, i have a i7 which doesn't have frequency governor at all (ubuntu studio with low-latency kernel x64)
[00:30] <n0sq> how do you add a directory to a k3b project? doesn't seem to want to do that
[00:30] <kapitan> my question is, is it working in general in ubuntu?
[00:32] <fosky> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288802/upgrading-to-ubuntu-13-04-stuck-on-setting-up-samba-common
[00:33] <ThePiousPriest1> ugh
[00:33] <ThePiousPriest1> so apparently something just removed my password for log in
[00:34] <ThePiousPriest1> This is ridiculous
[00:35] <liam[1]> hello pals
[00:36] <jaRipper> #learnjavascript
[00:36] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: haha nice. my machine i use for xbmc has got to the point where i dont have a password but i need a password for sudo. haha. im basically locked out of it. BUT it auto logs in :)
[00:37] <ThePiousPriest1> I mean wow, maybe I'm in Linux noob rage mode, but wow
[00:37] <ThePiousPriest1> Is Ubuntu going down hill?
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> ThePiousPriest1, Only if you mess it up. ;)
[00:37] <ThePiousPriest1> lol
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> thats the fun. ;)
[00:38] <ThePiousPriest1> now does 13.04 come stock with linux kernel 3.9 or just 3.5
[00:39] <OerHeks> kernel 3.8
[00:39] <samskiter> ThePiousPriest1: haha this is why i rage when people say linux is read for the masses *scoff*
[00:39] <ThePiousPriest1> ugh, now the ISP is taking a dump, Murphy is giving me a fun time
[00:39] <samskiter> like, im reasonably techy, but im not really into fucking about to the level that linux expects.
[00:39] <IdleOne> !language | samskiter
[00:40] <madprops> I have to save mysql dump
[00:40] <ThePiousPriest1> I mean, granted I've got my A+ and about to take my Net+ so system admin isn't really my thing but srsl?
[00:40] <ThePiousPriest1> brb gonna bring down all my devices
[00:40] <jaRipper> So what kind of people generally use ubuntu?
[00:41] <jelly-home> ThePiousPriest1: 3.9 got released yesterday, no sane distro is going to carry it right away
[00:41] <somsip> madprops: mysqldump -u user -p database > database.sql
[00:41] <jaRipper> I'm a front end web developer but the role of a front end dev has become a lot more complex including a lot more technical aspects then it did 5 years ago
[00:43] <madprops> somsip, thanks, but i was just trying to see if that triggered ubottu's language filter
[00:43] <madprops> :d
[00:43] <somsip> madprops: that is done manually with !language
[00:44] <madprops> duh >_<
[00:46] <ThePiousPriest2> back I am
[00:51] <zivester> is there a way to tell what videocard in my macbook is being used?
[00:52] <Riley-> hey guys in the software center why does it wont you to buy steam even though its free
[00:52] <Riley-> that dosnt make any sense
[00:53] <OerHeks> zivester, open terminal: lspci | grep -i VGA
[00:53] <OerHeks> Riley-, what is the price? $0 means register and login only
[00:53] <Riley-> that makes no sense
[00:53] <zivester> OerHeks, they're both listed... Intel and NVIDIA
[00:54] <jrib> Riley-: it's just the way it's setup
[00:54] <OerHeks> RIleythat does make sence, if you want to buy games.
[00:55] <OerHeks> zivester i guess you have optimus
[00:55] <Riley-> no it should be connected to your steam account not ubuntu one
[00:56] <Quix86> Why is my wireless only getting about 200kbps? It's capable of 2mbps or so, and when I reconnect it'll do 1mbps for a bit before dropping down.
[00:56] <Quix86> My wireless doesn't support power management either
[00:56] <zivester> OerHeks, what does that mean? its using both?
[00:58] <OerHeks> zivester, it is hybrid graphics, or the powerfull nvidia or the economical integrated intel, see bumblebee >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[00:58] <OerHeks> i read lots of issues with bumblebee/13.04
[00:59] <Yakuake> hi all
[01:00] <zivester> OerHeks, thanks... i probably won't install it then... I just need multiple monitors to work well.. trying to find a solution
[01:02] <arduino_man> viva ubuntu
[01:03] <Yakuake> I need to create a new live usb replacing the default kernel with another one (or the live won't start on my netbook): how can I do this?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Yakuake, Is your computer not running the pae kernels?
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> Yakuake, Try the net install.
[01:05] <Denz252> what about Popcorn Kernels?
[01:05]  * Denz252 has been beaten by all people present
[01:06] <themhz> how to I search my computer for a file by its extension like *.kdb ?
[01:07] <excelsiora> erp
[01:07] <Denz252> 0____0 the disconnects and connects!
[01:07] <Denz252> SOO MANY!
[01:08] <Anti-S1eep> Heh.
[01:08] <adac> I have the follwing issue when installing firefox: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5493098 Any ideas?
[01:08] <naddix> .
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> Denz252, I have those turned off makes it easier to follow the channel.
[01:11] <baz> hello, my system wont start up (no password dialog on x-windows ) console side just fine.......just stuck with a black blue screen and a mouse pointer ..... no major changes to the system have been done
[01:12] <WXZ1> I need to group similar windows, tile them, maximize all of them... and minimize them. So far, I have no way of doing this. Bluetile, awesome, grid plugin, any window management system, gnome-do << these are all the things I've failed.
[01:12] <baz> sorry not black blyue scrren blank shaded blue screen :(
[01:14] <baz> where does one go for some tech support with xubuntu
[01:14] <AlexTheRealOne> maybe #xubuntu?
[01:14] <Quix86> #xubuntu
[01:14] <Quix86> although if it's not XFCE specific, ubuntu works too
[01:15] <balls> does ubuntu show me labels for files on mouseover
[01:15] <balls> for things like filename product name etc
[01:16] <moomin_> hey guys, im new to ubuntu and using chromium. does anyone know how to switch the file manager to preview the files as thumbnails? Can't find a place to change the settings in chromium.
[01:16] <AlexTheRealOne> Try it out?
[01:16] <balls> i cant get to it atm
[01:16] <balls> idk if it worked
[01:16] <AlexTheRealOne> balls, maybe u can get it but at default its not work
[01:16] <onr> it doesnt show me
[01:17] <balls> ah
[01:17] <balls> im new to ubuntu
[01:17] <AlexTheRealOne> me too
[01:17] <liam[1]> hey!
[01:17] <liam[1]> is unity that bad?!
[01:17] <AlexTheRealOne> no
[01:17] <AlexTheRealOne> unity is very good
[01:17] <moomin_> i like it. took me a few days to get used to it
[01:18] <moomin_> but it aint bad
[01:18] <WXZ1> AlexTheRealOne: does it support tiling like windows?
[01:18] <balls> ill make a todo list
[01:18] <Quix86> all depends on what you like
[01:18] <Quix86> I prefer XFCE
[01:18] <balls> id like to 'develop it soon'
[01:18] <onr> WXZ1: ctrl + alt + numpad
[01:18] <AlexTheRealOne> WXZ1, Yes
[01:18] <WXZ1> onr: no, not tiling specific windows, full-tiling groups of windows
[01:19] <Denz252> Say, what about fedora?
[01:19] <Denz252> I am thinking of getting it....
[01:19] <Quix86> Whatever DM it used
[01:19] <Quix86> it was horrible
[01:19] <Quix86> I don't remember if it was KDE or gnome 3
[01:20] <Quix86> but I spent about 15 min messing with it and uninstalled the whole thing
[01:20] <AlexTheRealOne> Denz252, Try it out it takes very long to find a distro for you
[01:20] <onr> WXZ1: there must be tons of stuff to do that
[01:20] <AlexTheRealOne> I Tryed over 10Distros
[01:20] <Denz252> distro?
[01:20] <madprops> for some reason my ubuntu is not simply werking. my update manager asks me to install updates, i click yes, window disappears, it reappears after some time asking to install the same updates
[01:20] <WXZ1> onr: you'd think so wouldn't you
[01:20] <moomin_> same thing happening to me madprops
[01:20] <moomin_> you got the exclamation symbol in the corner too?
[01:20] <WXZ1> onr: well there might be for unity, not for what I have though
[01:21] <Altonymous> Anyone familiar with siege or can point me to a channel that can help me with it?  I have it working on my OSX machine and on CentOS.. but it doesn't seem to work on ubuntu for some reason
[01:21] <onr> WXZ1: whatcha haff?
[01:21] <madprops> moomin_, haven't noticed it
[01:21] <WXZ1> onr: gnome2, metacity
[01:21] <madprops> moomin_, i've thought of making a dist upgrade, maybe that'll fix it
[01:21] <AlexTheRealOne> Yeah only 100mb and get downgrade to 12.04*-*
[01:21] <onr> WXZ1: windows tiling programs must be universal, since x
[01:22] <moomin_> which version are you on madprops?
[01:22] <madprops> 12.10
[01:22] <adac> I have the follwing issue when installing firefox: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5493098 Any ideas?
[01:22] <balls> can you change icons for types of hardware
[01:22] <WXZ1> onr: I don't understand why
[01:23] <WXZ1> onr: are windows tiling programs based on x or something?
[01:23] <balls> say HDD's and CF reader/writer
[01:23] <Denz252> Whats a distro?
[01:23] <balls> have different icons assigned
[01:23] <balls> or is this a driver thing :/
[01:23] <AlexTheRealOne> Denz252, Different versions of linux
[01:24] <AlexTheRealOne> Denz252, or other systems
[01:24] <balls> drivers are hard to edit right?
[01:24] <onr> WXZ1: x11, yeah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#X_Window_System
[01:24] <balls> at least on windows
[01:24] <AlexTheRealOne> balls, depend on what u want to edit
[01:24] <zizoo> exit
[01:24] <Denz252> Ahhhhh
[01:24] <balls> im unsure what ill have to edit currently
[01:25] <madprops> Denz252, it's a distribution of selected packages/programs to create a desired environment
[01:25] <Denz252> lol, balls.....
[01:25] <WXZ1> onr: I didn't know that, but eitherway, windows tiling programs are proprietary and come in bundles with a bunch of other windows software
[01:25]  * Denz252 is immature
[01:25] <WXZ1> onr: so I can't use those specifically
[01:25] <balls> its ok denz
[01:25] <balls> ive heard em all
[01:25] <onr> WXZ1: i like winsplit on windows
[01:25] <balls> jokes etc
[01:26] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, still get the error with firefox?
[01:26] <WXZ1> onr: I'll look for a ubuntu alternative
[01:27] <adac> AlexTheRealOne, yes
[01:27] <balls> can you change the icons of hardware in a group
[01:27] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, Try to remove firefox and the install again
[01:27] <balls> say by type
[01:27] <WXZ1> onr: I have to go for a while though, I'll buzz you if I have a solution or problem
[01:27] <AlexTheRealOne> balls, Yeah u can
[01:27] <WXZ1> if you're not too busy
[01:27] <balls> how
[01:27] <adac> AlexTheRealOne, it is completely purged already
[01:28] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, okay remove whole firefox
[01:29] <Denz252> *cough* cough *coh USEIE10* cough*
[01:29] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, i mean delete all folders from the rest
[01:30] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, delete .mozilla/firefox/
[01:30] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, then delete .macromedia/ and .adobe
[01:30] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, and remove /etc/firefox/
[01:31] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, then remove /usr/lib/firefox and firefox-addons/
[01:31] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, if they are hidden press ALT+H
[01:31] <AlexTheRealOne> adac, ups mean CTRL+H
[01:32] <adac> AlexTheRealOne, done
[01:33] <kieppie> hi folks
[01:33] <kieppie> I'm having some difficulty with my ecryptfs ~ setup
[01:33] <kieppie> btrfs
[01:34] <kieppie> I've not dealt much with it in the past, so I'd appreciate any help
[01:34] <kieppie> I do believe the btrfs volume is mounted but I can't see it in my ~
[01:34] <Denz252> Your what?
[01:34] <kieppie> sorry
[01:35] <kieppie> ~ being /home/$USERNAME
[01:35]  * kieppie brain being fuzzy atm
[01:36] <kieppie> in my mounts I see:
[01:36] <kieppie>  /dev/sda1 on /home type btrfs (rw,subvol=@home) [root]
[01:37] <kieppie> gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/$USERNAME/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=$USERNAME)
[01:38] <kieppie>  /home/$USERNAME/.Private on /home/$USERNAME type ecryptfs (ecryptfs_check_dev_ruid,ecryptfs_cipher=aes,ecryptfs_key_bytes=16,ecryptfs_unlink_sigs,ecryptfs_sig=$HASH,ecryptfs_fnek_sig=$HASH)
[01:39] <kieppie> if I mount /dev/sda1 , I can see 2 btrfs volumes, @ & @home, and I can see my data in @home that I would want/expect in ~
[01:41] <Altonymous> Anyone know why on ubuntu 12.10 if I use wget against a web url it works fine, but if I use siege I get connection refused?  However, if I use the same siege version on centOS it works?
[01:42] <jrib> Altonymous: if you want a guess, the server does not like the user agent
[01:43] <Altonymous> How would the user agent be different between distros?
[01:43] <kieppie> Denz252 - you familiar with ecryptfs at all?
[01:43] <jrib> Altonymous: I would assume it's configurable
[01:43] <kieppie> ora nyone else here for that matter?
[01:43] <jrib> Altonymous: (and one distro configures it differently).  Again, this is a guess
[01:43] <Altonymous> there is no special configuration for that
[01:43] <jrib> kieppie: just ask your question
[01:43] <jrib> Altonymous: k, then it's not that
[01:44] <Altonymous> I checked the siege.configs and it's just a basic use-agent
[01:44] <kieppie> jrib  - outlined above^ I believe I have the btrfs subvolume mounted OK, but I'm not seeing my data I'm expecting
[01:45] <GI_Jack> seriously, why does seahorse in 13.04 fucking crash when I try to sign a file
[01:45] <jrib> !language | GI_Jack
[01:45] <GI_Jack> fucking ban me I don't care, your fucking distro is fucking fail
[01:45] <naddix> Lol.
[01:47] <al_la> Does anyone know if the weather indicator applet is still available?  Just upgraded to 13.04 and I can find in software center, but when I click 'more info' it says 'no package called indicator-weather found', and searching apt-cache yields nothing.
[01:49] <trism> al_la: looks like it was removed because of bug 1162485
[01:51] <brian____> I have no idea why, but now my rtl8192cu is working, with slight packet loss, but I have no idea what I did to make it connect now.  I've spent like 10 hours on this to finally get it to work to see that it is infact flaky.
[01:51] <zizoo> So fosky, I finally got .XCompose working for all programs. I use Gnome Classic, so I had to add "export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim" to my .gnomerc file. Oddly, it had that line in it, but with unicode close-quotes around xim. Weird, huh?
[01:52] <al_la> trism, ubottu: ah, thank you for the info.  Sad :(
[01:53] <elkng> the version of screen that comes with ubuntu, how much limit it has for number of windows ?
[01:58] <lnostdal> hi, after upgrading to 13.04 nautilus no longer displays icons and usb sticks etc. aren't visible either ..     what's up with that?
[01:58] <fosky> zizoo nice, see if the question is on askubuntu, maybe contribute if it isn't
[01:58] <fosky> but yeah that is weird xD (*quietly doesn't understand half of what you said*)
[01:59] <kieppie> ok - will try again. anyone here familiar with ecryptfs & btrfs? I have a fresh 13.04 setup & brought my old /home (~) across, but I can't see my data as I expect it to
[01:59] <kieppie> mount data listed above (can repase if needed)
[02:04] <lnostdal> lol ..  " files" ..    that's the new name for nautilus??
[02:05] <lnostdal> no hint that "files" has anything to do with the package "nautilus" ... sigh
[02:07] <elkng> why I'm asking is when I start to use screen, not on ubuntu, there was a limit 40 and later it was not enough for me, so the only way to increase it is to recompile it right ? then I increased that limit to 100, and now its not enough again, and why I asking about ubuntu is if even for me it wasn't enough limit of 40 so it shouldn't be enough for those who use ubuntu, but if the only way to increase it is to recompule it but that is not ubuntu way, after a
[02:07] <elkng>  simplicity of software installation, so why haven't they made limit on ubuntu something bigger 500 or 1000 ?
[02:08] <betrayd> there's not a lot of people that need that many
[02:09] <Omen_20> Is 13.04 having issues locking up? It's just locked up on me twice in 5 minutes.
[02:10] <Omen_20> It also started popping up system error messages within 24 hours of installing it. Really seems like a janky mess for a release.
[02:11] <charles1> Omen_20 I am not having problems with 13.04
[02:12] <elkng> charles1: you mean "not yet" ?
[02:12] <charles1> yes
[02:12] <trism> elkng: not exactly related, but out of curiosity I just created 100 windows in the default tmux build in ubuntu without an issue (so might be an alternative)
[02:12] <charles1> I have done about 30 installs of it
[02:13] <elkng> trism: I allready asked that question in #tmux: "is there similar limit in tmux ?"
[02:13] <trism> elkng: what's the answer?
[02:15] <elkng> trism: for last 6 minutes no answer
[02:15] <Wessicht> Hello. What's going on here?
[02:16] <kieppie> Wessicht - I suspect peopel are asleep
[02:16] <Wessicht> Hey, I was wondering about the bash shell.
[02:17] <Wessicht> Would it be possible to run a stripped down restricted shell in the background of a full shell?
[02:17] <Wessicht> And redirect incoming IP Traffic to that background process?
[02:17] <RobertBColton> guys can someone help?
[02:17] <Wessicht> Just wondering.
[02:17] <RobertBColton> ive recently updated my 12.01 to 13.04 ubuntu
[02:17] <RobertBColton> and uhm now my wifi card dont work
[02:17] <Wessicht> Yes, Robert?
[02:17] <RobertBColton> all the connectiosn are picked up
[02:18] <RobertBColton> it just wont connect to any
[02:18] <RobertBColton> fails every time
[02:18] <Wessicht> What's the kernel version of 13.04?
[02:18] <Wessicht> Robert, what's your kernel version?
[02:18] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, it was updated automaticlaly to that
[02:18] <RobertBColton> i uninstalled and reinstalled from my flash drive
[02:18] <Wessicht> Ok. So go into /proc and check the kernel version.
[02:19] <RobertBColton> which is the version my desktop is using
[02:19] <RobertBColton> and it was downloaded the day before
[02:19] <Wessicht> There is no kernel version 13.04, Robert.
[02:19] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, do you mean from the root directory?
[02:19] <Wessicht> Do you know how to use proc?
[02:19] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, or do you mean terminal?
[02:19] <Wessicht> yes. Open a shell, and type in the following.
[02:19] <Wessicht> 'cd /proc'
[02:19] <RobertBColton> ...
[02:19] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, so its hidden in the root directory XD
[02:20] <RobertBColton> okee dokee
[02:20] <Wessicht> Ok. Then type in:
[02:20] <Wessicht> 'ls -la'
[02:20] <RobertBColton> hold on
[02:20] <Wessicht> Do you see the results?
[02:21] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, ya a whole f***in lot
[02:21] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, should i pastebin?
[02:21] <Wessicht> No no. Try this:
[02:21] <Wessicht> 'ls -la kernel*'
[02:22] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, no such file or directory
[02:22] <Wessicht> Better results?
[02:22] <Wessicht> Ok. So, if it's not in proc, then try /boot
[02:22] <psychopathic> I love Ubuntu =)
[02:22] <Wessicht> Do you have color coding set up on the terminal?
[02:22] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, no such file or directory
[02:22] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, yes
[02:22] <Wessicht> Or is it all just white text on black background?
[02:22] <Wessicht> Ah. Ok. Excellent.
[02:23] <Wessicht> Ok. One moment please.
[02:24] <Wessicht> It looks like you are using kernel version 3.8
[02:24] <charles1> type uname -r    to get kernel
[02:24] <Wessicht> You're wifi might work better with an older kernel.
[02:25] <Wessicht> What release did you upgrade from, again?
[02:25] <Guest51753> ya
[02:26] <Wessicht> Ah. Looks like he's gone.
[02:26] <RobertBColton> oh wait
[02:26] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, i had to move it closer to the modem
[02:26] <Wessicht> yes?
[02:26] <RobertBColton> i think our neighbors blcoked her
[02:26] <RobertBColton> yes
[02:26] <Wessicht> lol.
[02:26] <Wessicht> Seriously?
[02:26] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, she liked using their unproctected network :P
[02:26] <RobertBColton> ya coz i make her type in a key
[02:26] <RobertBColton> coz i dont want them suckin ours
[02:26] <RobertBColton> Wessicht, makes porn buffer slow :)
[02:26] <Yonney> hi all, any way to specify owner:group access as a mount parameter?
[02:27] <RobertBColton> anyway
[02:27] <Wessicht> Sigh...
[02:27] <RobertBColton> thanks you guys!
[02:27] <Wessicht> de nada, robert.
[02:27] <Wessicht> Ok. So! Question:
[02:27] <Wessicht> Anybody here know a thing or two about sockets?
[02:28] <psychopathic> Ubuntu is like living on cloud 9
[02:31] <trexity> i wanted to ask a question
[02:31] <charles1> windows is like living under a rain cloud
[02:31] <trexity> ive made my own linux distro
[02:32] <trexity> based on debian-ubuntu
[02:32] <trexity> how would i go about releasing it
[02:32] <bowser> udebiantu?
[02:32] <trexity> its completely different and has a custom built kernal
[02:33] <trexity> and its fully customizable it  comes with Lxde xfce and gnome GUI'S
[02:33] <andry> hi, i wonder if ubuntu has support for sisimedia driver
[02:34] <trexity> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Sis
[02:34] <naeemmalik> hi
[02:34] <trexity> @andry
[02:34] <charles1> andry I have sis working ok but video not so good .... need separate video card
[02:35] <trexity> anyway if anyone would like to see my distro just let me know and i will post a screenshot on here
[02:36] <trexity> i also am sponsored by crashplan
[02:36] <trexity> and the system comes pre installed with a full version
[02:37] <vynxster> I'm needing some advice on tweaking my internal network. I'm needing to set speed limits.
[02:37] <andry> charles1: what driver are u using? sis? i need the sisimedia one.. does ubuntu support this?
[02:38] <vynxster> The disto default
[02:38] <vynxster> distro
[02:38] <Trexity> i stopped using windows   9 years ago and i still get emails from microdick wanting me to fill out surveys lmfao
[02:38] <vynxster> lol
[02:38] <Trexity> i hate bill gates
[02:38] <Trexity> lmfao
[02:39] <vynxster> Greedy
[02:39] <Trexity> no matter how many new emails i make i get emails from microdick
[02:39] <Trexity> i cant win!!!!!!!!!
[02:39] <vynxster> rol
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Trexity
[02:39] <greenn00b> Hi, I'm really new to ubuntu and would love some help installing it...
[02:40] <DrShoggoth> does anybody know how to patch a dkms module?  when I goto install the r8168-dkms module the compile fails on 13.04, I found the patch and I've done plenty of patching with patch etc... I just need to know how to stop the install patch and then continue the install with apt
[02:40] <Trexity> ops | Trexity
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[02:40] <Trexity> lol
[02:40] <FloodBot1> Trexity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <DrShoggoth> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/136947221/r8168-8.035.00.patch   <<< = thats the patch
[02:40] <mysteriousdarren> greenn00b: well ask questions and we will answer them
[02:40] <vynxster> I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 with the original Tulip drivers for LAN
[02:41] <charles1> andry just the default for ubuntu driver ... but video is grainy glitchy so I usually put a cheap video card in and it works. I could not find sis video driver that would work. I have done more than 100 of these .... Ubuntu computer shop here
[02:41] <greenn00b> ok....  I just aquired an old G5 PPC tower and want to turn it into an htpc.
[02:41] <dezmaeth> is there a way to "boot windows from a image", like a live drive, or how fast is PXE booting ?  i don't want to resize partition to play games xD
[02:42] <vynxster> I also have a Recon 3D sound card thats on the fritz
[02:42] <mysteriousdarren> greenn00b: specs? did you download the .iso for ppc?
[02:42] <vynxster> Yes. AQEM
[02:42] <vynxster> AQEMU
[02:42] <naeemmalik> hi
[02:42] <greenn00b> i downloaded "ubuntou 12.04.2-desktop-amd65.iso"
[02:43] <greenn00b> and i cant open it...
[02:43] <naeemmalik> no
[02:43] <vynxster> I'm trying to set speed limits on my internal network. Any advice?
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> greenn00b, Open it?
[02:43] <elkng> what is AQEMU ?
[02:43] <naeemmalik> i want to download Mac os x lion
[02:43] <vynxster> It's an emulator.
[02:43] <greenn00b> thanks.....     the disk image failed to mount
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> naeemmalik, ##apple
[02:44] <elkng> qemu ?
[02:44] <greenn00b> reason : no mountable file systems
[02:44] <vynxster> VM emulatior
[02:44] <vynxster> yes
[02:44] <andry> charles1: ouch, what cheap video card do you put in then?
[02:44] <elkng> not aqemu but qemu
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> !details > greenn00b
[02:44] <vynxster> AQEMU is in GNOME
[02:44] <mysteriousdarren> greenn00b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#How_do_I_get_a_Mac_to_boot_from_CD.3F
[02:44] <mysteriousdarren> greenn00b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[02:45] <vynxster> How can I weiw a private message?
[02:45] <greenn00b> do i need to burn this to CD first?
[02:46] <vynxster> How can I view a private message?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> greenn00b, image it to a disc/usb or use grub to boot it.
[02:46] <lnostdal> seems people are having trouble mounting usb sticks etc. in 13.04 ..    any faq or something on this? ..          ....
[02:46] <charles1> andry usually a 64 or 128mb geforce is best but ati is ok too
[02:46] <mysteriousdarren> greenn00b: yes, that is what an .iso disc is for or for a usb works too
[02:46] <PyGuy> Hey can someone help? I'm not getting any sound in Unity3D games.
[02:46] <greenn00b> how do i use grub to boot it? what is grub?
[02:47] <trism> DrShoggoth: the package uses quilt, so you should just be able to create a debian/patches/ directory, copy that patch there (it applies fine), then add a debian/patches/series with the patchfile name and rebuild the package (probably bump the version in the changelog too)
[02:47] <Falados> is there a way to secure tomcat with apparmor in 12.04 LTS?
[02:47] <guang_> where is the "acpi package" homepage?i can not google for it
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> greenn00b, Grub is the bootloader for ubuntu if you don't have an install disregard it.
[02:47] <yogurt> I dated a guy named Ubuntu once.  Big black man from the jungle rainforests of Africa.  He used to "play the bongos" on my ass.
[02:47] <mysteriousdarren> grub is the bootloader
[02:47] <yogurt> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[02:47] <DrShoggoth> trism, tyvm, I'll look up quilt, it should probably get me going in the right direction, tyvm
[02:48] <lnostdal> ah, nothing .. ..    figures
[02:49] <vynxster> I'm starting to figure this chat thing out
[02:49] <mysteriousdarren> greenn00b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:49] <dreks> exit
[02:50] <Riley-> hey on 13.04 does anyone have a solid line ontop of flash videos this is seriously driving me insane
[02:50] <Riley-> im almost positive it has to do with notifyosd but i cant figure out how to fix it
[02:50] <lnostdal> Riley-: http://blog.nostdal.org/2013/04/ubuntu-1304-raring-ringtal-and-intel.html fixed it here
[02:50] <lnostdal> Riley-: on Intel GPU ..    but 13.04 is not good IMHO
[02:51] <Riley-> im on intel hd 3000
[02:51] <charles1> Riley- try the cedar driver
[02:51] <lnostdal> Riley-: yep
[02:52] <Riley-> weres the xorg.conf file
[02:52] <lnostdal> Riley-: just create it
[02:52] <Riley-> were
[02:52] <Riley-> in /etc/X11
[02:52] <Riley-> ?
[02:52] <lnostdal> oh, right ..  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:52] <wilfredor> Hi
[02:53] <wilfredor> Someone know the best ultrabook for ubuntu?
[02:53] <Riley-> wilfredor dell makes a developer envy 13 that has ubuntu on it
[02:54] <Riley-> or u can go with system76
[02:54] <Riley-> but in terms of hardware support anything is good now a days
[02:54] <mysteriousdarren> mainstream http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd but support system76 if you can
[02:54] <Riley-> did i say envy
[02:54] <Riley-> i ment xps lol
[02:54] <wilfredor> the problem, the price
[02:55] <Riley-> system 76 has some decent prised ones
[02:55] <Riley-> brb gotta reboot
[02:55] <charles1> Riley- cedar-view graphics driver for intel 3000 is in the ubuntu software center
[02:55] <wilfredor> I am searching a computer like a macbook but a ultrabook with ubuntu
[02:56] <OerHeks> !hcl
[02:56] <wilfredor> like macbook air
[02:56] <charles1> Riley- why not get a mac air and install ubuntu on it?
[02:57] <charles1> wilfredor air was for you sorry
[02:57] <Riley-> hey who just gave me the intel link
[02:57] <wilfredor> charles1: because is slowest
[02:57] <wilfredor> and air become hot
[02:57] <ProjektGhost> Hello. I just have a quick question: Does my machine's MTU and my router / modem's MTU need to 'match'?
[02:58] <Riley-> im pretty sure its fixed now at
[02:58] <lnostdal> Riley-: hi, yep, it worked here
[02:58] <lnostdal> Riley-: (for 2 days straight now)
[02:58] <Riley-> thx man
[02:58] <charles1> cedar-view driver is in software center
[02:58] <lnostdal> np
[02:58] <hanasaki> what tools / deemon controls the cpu speed?  my amd is running at its slowest all the time since the upgrade a few days ago
[02:58] <Riley-> you have no idea how much i was raging lol
[02:58] <Riley-> i was about to throw my computer at the wall and go back to suse lol
[02:59] <lnostdal> Riley-: yeah, i don't understand why they don't test things better before releasing these things ..    who cares if it's 13.04 or 13.05   (one month delayed).... x)   intel is pretty common on laptops .. heh
[02:59] <Riley-> not to mention the drivers are open source
[03:00] <Riley-> i knew they turned on sna by default now
[03:00] <naknomik> What's the best filesystem to use for a Ubuntu Server based NAS?
[03:01] <charles1> wilfredor I always wanted to try the Samsung Chromebook
[03:01] <Riley-> the chromebook is good for a specific purpose
[03:01] <Riley-> web browsing lol
[03:01] <charles1> yes
[03:02] <wilfredor> A ultrashit
[03:02] <Riley-> i couldnt deal with only 30gigs of storage
[03:02] <Riley-> u have to keep in mind the price though its only 200$
[03:02] <User_007> Hello, during tonight's upgrade skype stopped working (Skype got upgraded). When i call skype from terminal, it don't show any output.  I am using Raring AMD64. Please help
[03:02] <wilfredor> chrome book pixel
[03:02] <Riley-> oh yea that is ridiculous
[03:03] <Riley-> the normal chromebook is what i was talking about
[03:03] <greenn00b> ok, burnt the iso to cd.  now cd is not readable by my computer...
[03:03] <User_007> btw, Skype was working before tonight's upgrade
[03:03] <Riley-> greenn00b id use a flashdrive
[03:03] <charles1> Riley- my chrome book is only 16gb ram
[03:03] <greenn00b> how do i mount the iso on a flashdrive?
[03:03] <Riley-> u mean hdd
[03:04] <charles1> yes
[03:04] <Riley-> u make it bootable and use something like unetbootin or win32 image writer
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> greenn00b, Try unetbootin from the web, thie disc should be burned as an image slowly.
[03:04] <Riley-> unetbootin is pretty easy
[03:04] <hotspear> Hi experts,
[03:04] <User_007> when I remove .Skype folder, it just work for one login. after that it stops working again
[03:04] <Riley-> usb will be alot faster in the livecd mode to
[03:04] <hotspear> I have something very annoying with time on my ubuntu with ntp
[03:05] <User_007> does anyone have any idea about that?
[03:05] <hotspear> My server time goes all over the place
[03:05] <hotspear> I schedule a dump of ntpdate nz.pool.ntp.org
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> hotspear, Try #ubuntu-server if a ubuntu server
[03:06] <hotspear> both server and desktop same thing
[03:06] <GaboXandre> User_007: there is bug repoted about skype, check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source/+bug/1131636
[03:06] <klander4121> hi guys. is there a command to install a lamp stack with apache 2.4?
[03:06] <charles1> User_007 the update might be using some old skype files.... uninstall and reinstall... erase directory before reinstall
[03:06] <psychopathic> Ubuntu rocks my world !
[03:06] <greenn00b> unetbootin wont work on my G5 ppc running 10.5.8
[03:06] <somsip> klander4121: what version of ubuntu?
[03:06] <Riley-> no! son of a..
[03:07] <klander4121> somsip: 13.04
[03:07] <Riley-> its doing the line thing again
[03:07] <Riley-> wtf
[03:07] <somsip> !info apache
[03:07] <Riley-> this is retarded
[03:07] <somsip> !info apache2
[03:07] <User_007> GaboXandre, It doesn't show segmentation fault. And on yesterday's upgrade everything was fine.
[03:07] <hotspear> can anyone help? I don't want to flash the screen with dump files
[03:07] <charles1> Riley-  arrgggg
[03:07] <User_007> charles1, already did that. no results. :(
[03:07] <OerHeks> greenn00b, does your G5 have an intel cpy? if not, ubuntu is not going to run on your systen
[03:07] <somsip> klander4121: so it looks like official packages are at 2.2.22 and you'll have to go to PPA for a newer version
[03:08] <OerHeks> c/cpy/cpu
[03:08] <klander4121> somsip: where can i get that?
[03:08] <somsip> !ppa | klander4121
[03:08] <GaboXandre> User_007: did you try to remove Skype and re-install it?
[03:08] <greenn00b> no, it doesnt.
[03:08] <greenn00b> its a ppc
[03:09] <Riley-> this is so stupid i seriously cant find any launchpad bugs or anything
[03:09] <User_007> GaboXandre, yes.. several times
[03:09] <charles1> Riley- is your video using ram? do memtest?
[03:10] <OerHeks> !ppc | greenn00b
[03:10] <psychopathic> check out my creation --> http://ubuntuone.com/7W3r1B35NHh1TunF3UOpIf
[03:10] <samskiter> hello. ive got myself in an absolute mess while trying to install nvidia drivers
[03:10] <samskiter> could someone help me sort this out and do it properly?
[03:11] <Ben64> !nvidia | samskiter
[03:11] <User_007> GaboXandre, charles1: only by existing, the folder .Skype makes skype don't stat
[03:12] <samskiter> ive screwed it all up :(
[03:12] <samskiter> im in like crazy low resolution and a boxed screen
[03:12] <Ben64> samskiter: well... what did you do?
[03:12] <klander4121> somsip: ty
[03:13] <samskiter> i tried to install the nvidia drivers
[03:13] <samskiter> im on kubuntu btw.
[03:13] <charles1> samskiter:  you need to remove all nvidia drivers in terminal and start over
[03:13] <samskiter> charles1 how?
[03:13] <User_007> if i delete .Skype folder it works fine. but even if i have a empty .Skype folder skype don't starts
[03:13] <charles1> wait i see
[03:13] <Ben64> samskiter: you still haven't said what you did, we're not mind readers
[03:14] <jda2000> SO, that deal where after you upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 you can't log in with your original uid.    Has that been formally reported?
[03:15] <GaboXandre> User_007: any error message or something when you try to launch it?
[03:15] <charles1> samskiter: in terminal type     -l | grep nvidia
[03:15] <brian____> In a matter of an hour or so of catch this chat, I've decided i'm not clicking the 'upgrade' button from 12.10 to 13.04 atleast for a week or two...
[03:15] <charles1> samskiter:to see what is installed
[03:15] <samskiter> Ben64: i used the "additional drivers" window to try and install the nvidia drivers. that didnt work and wound up giving me this bad resolution. so i tried to uninstall them via terminal and the install via terminal (most recently i followed these instructions: www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[03:16] <User_007> GaboXandre, none
[03:16] <samskiter> just a second charles1
[03:16] <Ben64> samskiter: what version of ubuntu
[03:16] <samskiter> Ben64: 13.04 kubuntu
[03:16] <User_007> GaboXandre, i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/980320
[03:17] <User_007> GaboXandre, sorry seems to not be the same bug
[03:17] <samskiter> charles1: you missed off the command you wanted me to run i think
[03:17] <Ben64> samskiter: probably "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" go ahead and pastebin the result
[03:17] <charles1> samskiter: you need to remove all nvidia drivers and start over
[03:18] <samskiter> charles i did that i thought
[03:18] <samskiter> before running throught he instructions at the url i just linked to
[03:18] <charles1> samskiter:  to find them in terminal type ..... dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[03:19] <samskiter> i didnt use purge though, because purge was suggesting it would remove kubuntu-desktop - i dont want that
[03:19] <charles1> samskiter: the url you gave me does not say how to remove them
[03:19] <betrayd> the bad news is: that tutorial is fine if you didn't install anything at first, which you  did
[03:19] <Ben64> samskiter: what video card do you have
[03:19] <IdleOne> samskiter: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you can safely let it be removed and reinstall it later
[03:19] <GaboXandre> User_007: yes its different, but it may be related to using 64-bit architecture, i upgraded a few days ago in 32-bit and it keeps working ok
[03:19] <Ben64> charles1, betrayd: removing them is not necessary
[03:20] <GaboXandre> User_007: don't know what the problem could be...
[03:20] <User_007> GaboXandre, are you on raring?
[03:20] <betrayd> Ben64: k
[03:20] <charles1> Ben64: if you don't remove the bad ones .... the right one wont install
[03:20] <GaboXandre> User_007: yes
[03:20] <Ben64> charles1: its the same one, there is no "bad" one
[03:20] <samskiter> charles1: i used tab complete on sudo apt-get remove to find the nvidia packages
[03:21] <samskiter> charles1:  here the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ke4rKqrL
[03:21] <User_007> GaboXandre, could you do a aptitude full-upgrade now?
[03:21] <Ben64> samskiter: what card do you have
[03:21] <samskiter> Ben64: nvidia geforce 635m
[03:21] <User_007> GaboXandre, or a apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:21] <Ben64> samskiter: dual gpu?
[03:21] <User_007> GaboXandre, (please remember apt-get update before any of those commands)
[03:22] <samskiter> IdleOne: there were about 10 packages it wants to remove. im a bit concerned ill screw things up worse than when i started and wind up without a desktop
[03:22] <bluebeat> hi! is there anyone who knows about wifi  setups and wants to help me?
[03:22] <Ben64> !anyone | bluebeat
[03:22] <samskiter> Ben64: yes. i was thinking about trying to get bumblebee working after this
[03:22] <Ben64> samskiter: well thats probably the root of the problem
[03:22] <IdleOne> samskiter: as long as you make sure to reinstall kubuntu-desktop before logging out or rebooting you won't lose your desktop
[03:23] <Ben64> theres a new nvidia driver that supports optimus but i'm not sure how to get it
[03:23] <bluebeat> ty for that....
[03:24] <GaboXandre> User_007: why?
[03:24] <charles1> samskiter: i have the same video as you
[03:25] <samskiter> IdleOne: these are what it wants to remove: kde-window-manager* kde-workspace* kubuntu-desktop* libkwinnvidiahack4* nvidia-304*
[03:25] <samskiter>   nvidia-310* nvidia-313-updates* nvidia-current* nvidia-settings*
[03:25] <samskiter>   nvidia-settings-304* nvidia-settings-313-updates*
[03:25] <samskiter> sorry, not sure why that was multi-lined
[03:25] <samskiter> Ben64: i thought bumblebee was supposed to deal with optimus?
[03:25] <FloodBot1> samskiter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:25] <Ben64> samskiter: its slow
[03:25] <samskiter> charles1: the 635m? are you using an asus?
[03:25] <User_007> GaboXandre, i made thee upgrade today. If it affects you too, it's a bug.
[03:25] <naknomik> What's ideal swap partition size for a machine with 12GB RAM?
[03:25] <charles1> samskiter: you need to remove the 313 and the 304 and the other one first ... I had to ..... then I can give you the install instructions i used that worked
[03:26] <samskiter> charles1:  can i continue this with you in PM please?
[03:26] <bluebeat> does anyone know how to avoid a repeater and make the connection to the main access point, even though the repetear is closer, better strenght signal, and therefore it connects to it by default
[03:26] <charles1> samskiter: I have to go .... I will get the install for you .... wait
[03:26] <samskiter> ok thanks
[03:27] <Ben64> samskiter: the new nvidia drivers are ~45% faster than using bumblebee
[03:27] <GaboXandre> User_007: I use Skype for work and can't risk breaking it now. I'll try to reproduce the bug tomorow on a different box, though. Sorry
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> naknomik, If you want to hibernate the swap has to be at least equal to the ram.
[03:27] <samskiter> Ben64: ok. but no idea how to get them?
[03:27] <samskiter> how new are we talking? like bleeding edge?
[03:27] <Ben64> they came out this month
[03:28] <User_007> GaboXandre, oh no, I am sorry. I didn't mean to trouble you.
[03:28] <Ben64> samskiter: by the way, why are you running on 32bit?
[03:28] <charles1> samskiter: How to install nvidia driver:
[03:28] <charles1> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/nvidia
[03:28] <charles1> sudo apt-get update
[03:28] <charles1> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:28] <naknomik> wilee-nilee: If I have a SSD will more swap size help with system performance?
[03:28] <User_007> GaboXandre, thanks for the help. And sorry for troubling
[03:28] <jda2000> OK guys, here it is:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1114418
[03:29] <samskiter> charles1: this looks very similar to what i just tried
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> naknomik, The swap also works as a cache so it helps to some extent.
[03:29] <OerHeks> charles1, that PPA has no Raring candidate..
[03:29] <GaboXandre> User_007: not a problem. wish I could have helped
[03:29] <Ben64> ppa isn't going to magically make the drivers work
[03:29] <charles1> samskiter: but if you dont remove old nvidia drivers first it wont work
[03:29] <Ben64> samskiter: so... why are you running on 32 bit?
[03:30] <jda2000> since a couple guys recognized this problem as soon as I asked for help here, the problem my be common enough that it should be mentioned in the topic?
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> naknomik, I have a SSD I have my swap equal to my ram but the swappiness set to 10.
[03:30] <jda2000> s/my be/may be/
[03:30] <samskiter> charles1: how do i know if i got em all. i thought i had before. there was nothing left to apt-get remove beginning with "nvidia" before
[03:30] <samskiter> Ben64: one issue at a time lol
[03:31] <samskiter> Ben64: unless its related?
[03:31] <Ben64> samskiter: this is very related
[03:31] <charles1> samskiter: you do the grep thing to see them and remove them one at a time
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !trim } nakaori
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !trim | naknomik
[03:31] <samskiter> charles1: dpkg seems to have a different list to remove
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> naknomik, I thought the bot have some trim info.
[03:31] <Ben64> samskiter: the problem, besides optimus, is that you need to have the kernel headers in order for the driver to build
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> might*
[03:32] <samskiter> Ben64: and does that not work for 32 bit?
[03:32] <charles1> samskiter: by the way when you update the kernel the driver will go away and you need to reinstall it again.... anoying
[03:32] <Ben64> samskiter: you probably do not have them installed properly
[03:33] <samskiter> charles1: huh?
[03:33] <samskiter> Ben64: in those instructions i linked to, one of the steps was to install headers, is it done right there?
[03:33] <Ben64> samskiter: no
[03:33] <charles1> every time I  update kernel ... driver does not work for nvidia
[03:33] <Ben64> charles1: because you don't have the headers installed properly either
[03:33] <samskiter> charles1: how often will i be updating the kernel though?
[03:33] <charles1> ok
[03:33] <Ben64> samskiter: if you have headers, it will always work
[03:34] <samskiter> i have headers?
[03:34] <samskiter> i thought i had them
[03:34] <Ben64> samskiter: what is the output of "uname -r"
[03:34] <samskiter> Ben64: 3.8.0-19-generic
[03:34] <lix> hi. after I upgraded my server (do-release-upgrade) to 13.04 and restarted, after loggin in the server still shows the message "New release '13.04' available." - how can I get rid of that?
[03:35] <charles1> i have 3.2.0-40-generic-pae
[03:35] <Ben64> samskiter: really? weird... anyway you want to do ... "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[03:35] <Ben64> charles1: you want "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic-pae"
[03:35] <samskiter> not sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[03:35] <Ben64> samskiter: right, that's not good
[03:36] <leptone> can someone recommend a python IDE i can find in the USC?
[03:36] <samskiter> so thats the part of that guide that was bad?/
[03:36] <Ben64> samskiter: yep
[03:36] <OerHeks> !info eric
[03:36] <samskiter> it says its already at latest version
[03:36] <samskiter> so i dont need to?
[03:37] <charles1> Ben64: thanks ... but it says I have the newest version
[03:37] <Ben64> samskiter: yeah i guess you have them already then.... so try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms"
[03:37] <samskiter> Ben64: ok just a sec
[03:37] <leptone> OerHeks, thx
[03:38] <samskiter> Ben64: done
[03:38] <morgan_> hello, I have major screen tearing after fresh install of 13.04. I've installed nvidia-common and it didn't seem to make any difference D:
[03:38] <Ben64> samskiter: did you see it build an nvidia driver?
[03:38] <samskiter> Ben64: no
[03:38] <samskiter> Ben64: but im in the middle of removing everything anyway
[03:39] <charles1> Ben64:  I did that too .... just went to next promt no output
[03:39] <samskiter> yea thats what mine did
[03:39] <Ben64> i blame optimus then
[03:39] <samskiter> ok
[03:39] <Ben64> 319 driver + xrandr 1.4 makes it work
[03:40] <charles1> my nvidia is working ok
[03:40] <Ben64> but i don't know how to do that on ubuntu
[03:40] <samskiter> should i remove: "libkwinnvidiahack4"
[03:40] <samskiter> it says its for kde
[03:41] <samskiter> ok so now there is only that in my dpkg that references nvidia, should i follow charles1's instructions Ben64?
[03:42] <samskiter> also charles1 i dont think this part is right: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/nvidia
[03:42] <samskiter> upubuntu?
[03:42] <Ben64> that will likely not work
[03:43] <samskiter> oh ok
[03:43] <charles1> no wait
[03:43] <samskiter> Ben64: what do you recommend then?
[03:43] <samskiter> maybe i could just get neuveau working again instead?
[03:43] <samskiter> (but i had issues with that)
[03:44] <charles1> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/nvidia is right it works
[03:44] <OerHeks> charles1, that ppa has no raring candidate, so it is useless for samskiter, you are on quantal.
[03:44] <Ben64> do this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[03:44] <charles1> oh yes you are right
[03:44] <samskiter> ah ok ill try bumblebee. i thought i needed the nvidia driver installed already....
[03:45] <Ben64> you might, i don't have a system with dual gpus
[03:45] <samskiter> :S
[03:46] <OerHeks> xswat ppa has no raring candidate too, this ppa would be my 1st choise
[03:46] <Ben64> !info nvidia-experimental-310
[03:46] <samskiter> ah i think it installs nvidia 304 anyway
[03:46] <samskiter> its installing 304
[03:46] <betz> Hi! When i install ubuntu 12.04 i have the sources of raring. Is this normal?
[03:46] <Ben64> betz: pastebin?
[03:47] <samskiter> totally praying this works :P
[03:47] <betz> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/qvmzb72J
[03:48] <Ben64> betz: are you sure its 12.04?
[03:48] <betz> i just installed it twice, redownloaded 12.04 again to be sure
[03:48] <charles1> samskiter: the one that I am using is the experimental 304 ... working on 12.04
[03:48] <makara> how can enable colour in terminal manual pages?
[03:48] <samskiter> charles1: ok well i think the bumblebee thing decided what it wanted.... :/
[03:48] <samskiter> charles1: do you have quantus?
[03:49] <Ben64> betz: what does "uname -a" say? how about "lsb_release -r" ?
[03:49]  * samskiter is going for reboot
[03:49] <betz> Ben64: 13.04
[03:49] <Ben64> then you have 13.04
[03:50] <betz> Ben64: i download it here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?distro=server&bits=64&release=lts
[03:50] <vp18> who got 13.04
[03:50] <Ben64> lots of people
[03:50] <betz> Ben64: click on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server 'get ubuntu 12.04 LTS'
[03:51] <Ben64> betz: yeah now i'm downloading 12.04
[03:51] <betz> yeah, thats what i do
[03:51] <betz> but when you install it it is 13.04
[03:51] <betz> installed it twice
[03:51] <betz> and downloaded it again
[03:52] <Ben64> betz: you must have done something wrong
[03:52] <makara> if you botch of with nVidia drivers completely, you can just undo everything with instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection. Search for 'scratch'. If you have Unity, you'll have to renable the plugin from ccsm.
[03:52] <betz> Ben64: filename: ubuntu-12.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[03:52] <betz> what could i do wrong
[03:52] <betz> basic install
[03:52] <betz> something is wrong with the packaging i guess
[03:53] <Ben64> unlikely
[03:54] <betz> Ben64: are you downloading the automatic download that started when you opened that page, or the one when you click on http://screencast.com/t/24577Xe8g1
[03:54] <betz> thats the one i used
[03:54] <betz> to get the download url to wget it
[03:55] <betz> i guess that link is not respecting the version
[03:55] <betz> but the filename is correct
[03:55] <OerHeks> betz download gives me 12.04.2 too, just checked the iso,  so you must do something wrong.
[03:55] <Ben64> betz: check the md5
[03:55] <betz> wut
[03:55] <Ben64> !md5sum
[03:55] <betz> ok, will try again :)
[03:56] <samskiter> ok. WEIRD. rebooted. i now have the desktop cube animation when switching desktops but im still in crazy low resolution
[03:56] <Ben64> samskiter: nvidia-settings
[03:57] <samskiter> ok...
[03:57] <samskiter> Ben64: there are like 5 tick boxes
[03:58] <Nothing_Much> Someone tell me how to get rid of pulseaudio without removing anything Ubuntu
[03:58] <Ben64> Nothing_Much: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[03:58] <Nothing_Much> It removes everything that Ubuntu needs
[03:58] <Ben64> samskiter: there should be a section for resolution
[03:58] <Ben64> Nothing_Much: does not
[03:58] <Nothing_Much> Dependencies and whatnot
[03:58] <Nothing_Much> It most certainly does
[03:58] <LFurman> Question... My system just updated to 13.04 the other night and now things are no longer working. My weather app is gone, Skype no longer runs, and the shortcuts on my desktop open in the text editor rather than run the programs they are supposed to. Is there any way I can go back to 12.10 without having to wipe the drive and reinstall? 13.04 is a big ole FAIL.
[03:58] <samskiter> Ben64: nope
[03:59] <Ben64> Nothing_Much: pastebin what it's saying then
[03:59] <Nothing_Much> ubuntu-desktop is one of those things that it requires to remove
[03:59] <Ben64> Nothing_Much: its just a meta-package, doesn't affect anything
[04:01] <Ben64> samskiter: http://2.ben64.com/random_junk/nvidiasettings.png
[04:01] <samskiter> Ben64: looks nothing like that. ill get you a screenshot haha
[04:02] <fishcooker> hello ubuntu-users
[04:02] <fishcooker> i've try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[04:03] <samskiter> Ben64: http://imgur.com/cgtJTyt
[04:03] <samskiter> lolll
[04:03] <fishcooker> but why it will boot on windows 8 only
[04:03] <fishcooker> no grub loaded
[04:03] <Bluaoi> how do i rearrange the options in grub so that windows 7 is on top?
[04:03] <arduino_man> jmb
[04:04] <samskiter> Ben64: im just doing a sudo apt get install and it seems to be changing something
[04:04] <arduino_man> i love everybody just because you guys use arduino
[04:04] <arduino_man> i mean ubuntu!
[04:04] <samskiter> oops this might be a mistake actually
[04:05] <LFurman> Can I get some help please?
[04:05] <samskiter> its removed nvidia-settings-304 andf installed nvidia-settings
[04:06] <samskiter> and it didnt work anyway. undoing...
[04:06] <makara> LFurman, you can deal with those issues one by one
[04:06] <makara> LFurman, did you try uninstall skype and reinstall with USC?
[04:06] <LFurman> ok, first issue: Getting the desktop shortcuts to run the programs rather than open in a text editor.
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> LFurman, 12.10 is a fresh install. Do you have a separate home?
[04:07] <LFurman> University of Southern California????
[04:07] <samskiter> Ben64: potential solution of just deleting a file, what do you think? http://askubuntu.com/questions/201123/screen-resolution-stuck-at-640x480-after-installing-bumblebee
[04:07] <LFurman> I tried uninstalling skype and reinstalling it, but it still won't run.
[04:07] <makara> LFurman, it just means they're not pointing to the binary executables. Just recreate them.
[04:08] <LFurman> Ok, the big one is SecondLife. Even when I try to run the script file directly from a terminal window is says "Command not found" but I can do an LS and see the file right there.
[04:09] <yitz_> Does your path have "." in it? Is it executable?
[04:09] <LFurman> 13.04 is not handling my scripts correctly
[04:09] <LFurman> everything ran fine until it upgraded to 13.04.
[04:09] <timonti> which fs is best for ssd?
[04:10] <makara> LFurman, does it have executable permissions and are you the owner?
[04:10] <LFurman> yes and yes. I'm the ONLY user on the machine. I even tried doing sudo and got the same response.
[04:11] <betz> Ben64: i found where it goes wrong. See http://pastebin.com/kke0gwn8
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> timonti, The standard partitioning is fine.
[04:12] <betz> the url is the url from the download manually link
[04:12] <LFurman> There needs to be a simple command or script to undo the latest update and let me go back to 12.10 which worked flawlessly for me.
[04:12] <betz> when you click in a browser it is ok, i get a 12.04 md5, but when you wget it gets redirected
[04:12] <makara> LFurman, you're not the only user beside root
[04:13] <LFurman> I should be.
[04:13] <LFurman> 13.04 has me about ready to swallow my pride and go back to Winblows.
[04:14] <yitz_> LFurman: Try using a path when running the scipt
[04:16] <betz> any ubuntu.com admin here?
[04:18] <makara> he just wanted to rant
[04:18] <WXZ> how do I reinstall my video drivers?
[04:21] <timonti> wilee-nilee so ext4 is good right?
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> timonti, Yeah, that's what I'm using, I just have optimize setup.
[04:22] <makara> WXZ, if you botch of with nVidia drivers completely, you can just undo everything with instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection. Search for 'scratch'. If you have Unity, you'll have to renable the plugin from ccsm.
[04:23] <WXZ> makara: that's not what happened, I think I'm going to just find out my graphics card (somehow) then search for the driver for it
[04:23] <marandi> hi , guys , i use ubuntu in my laptop and xubuntu in my old PC ! i installed so much great packages in my ubuntu the i copied all .deb files from /var/cache/apt to my xubuntu ! now i wanna know how can i make a repository from this local directory of all .deb files in xubuntu ?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> WXZ, lspci in the terminal will show the card
[04:24] <IdleOne> !aptoncd
[04:24] <usr13> WXZ: lspci |grep -i vga
[04:24] <makara> WXZ, lspci | grep vga
[04:24] <WXZ> makara: usr13: yup, found it
[04:25] <usr13> WXZ: Then go to nvidia.com and download the one for your system.
[04:25] <WXZ> usr13: it's a radeon o.o
[04:25] <marandi> IdleOne: i tried aptoncd , but i didnt work , when i use media as a repository i got error all the time
[04:25] <makara> dude, forgettabout it
[04:25] <usr13> WXZ: Ok, just use the redeon driver.
[04:25] <makara> nVidia doesn't play ball
[04:25] <usr13> WXZ: (Which it should be using by default.)
[04:26] <WXZ> usr13: I'm kinda doing stuff I shouldn't be
[04:26] <usr13> WXZ: Why is that?
[04:26] <WXZ> usr13: because I'm running karmic
[04:28] <usr13> WXZ: EOL =  April 30, 2011
[04:28] <WXZ> I know :|
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> WXZ, You might find a distro that is not end of life
[04:29] <usr13> WXZ: Why?
[04:29] <WXZ> I have one, this is just a computer I keep at the 'rents place
[04:29] <makara> your credibility has just gone through the floor
[04:31] <usr13> WXZ: You've "saddled a dead horse"
[04:31] <usr13> WXZ: I don't do that, (why would you?)
[04:31] <WXZ> welp, I'm going to continue being stupid and loving it then
[04:31] <WXZ> usr13: to save time
[04:32] <usr13> Time?
[04:32] <WXZ> yes, a computer I use for 40 hours a year doesn't need upgrading
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> WXZ, By doing this you are wasting our time.
[04:33] <WXZ> wilee-nilee: not necessarily, I learn and reapply the info whenever I get back to maverick, it's happened quite often
[04:33] <usr13> One can waste time, or spend time, but saving time is a fallacy (time can not be saved). ;)
[04:34] <WXZ> yes it can, and just for a dollar a day... time will never have to go hungry again.
[04:34] <usr13> WXZ: Some of the most important things we do are a waste of time.
[04:34] <WXZ> but not this conversation cuz I'm gonna go reinstall my drivers, yay
[04:35] <usr13> Okeydokey  :)
[04:36] <lsdsjy> hi all
[04:36] <lsdsjy> this is the first time i've been here
[04:37] <usr13> lsdsjy: congradulations
[04:37] <lsdsjy> thx~
[04:38] <usr13> lsdsjy: Do you have an issue we can help you solve?
[04:38] <lsdsjy> yes, it's about the conky
[04:39] <lsdsjy> its background isn't transparent
[04:39] <Ponch0> my software center crashes as soon as I open it, so i purged it and reinstalled it, this is what came up during reinstallation http://pastebin.com/TxD80K9D -- does anyone have any idea what that is?
[04:40] <arduino_man> bt6^^
[04:40] <samskiter> F*k yea! i finally sorted my resolution
[04:40] <samskiter> what a nightmare
[04:40] <yitz_> Doesn't sound serious, Ponch0
[04:40] <gry> samskiter: how did you fix it?
[04:40] <arduino_man> that link is not owrking poncho
[04:41] <Ponch0> yitz_: i'm glad, but i have no idea how to fix it :D
[04:41] <yitz_> Ponch0: sounds like something installed those two apps/files not via the software center
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> samskiter, This is a family friendly channel  please do not swear.
[04:41] <Ponch0> yitz_: oh I do use synaptic sometimes.
[04:42] <yitz_> It's all the apt-get stack
[04:43] <usr13> Ponch0: ...or you can cut to the chase and just use apt-get
[04:43] <Ponch0> I'm confused...
[04:43] <samskiter> gry: i removed everything nvidia, then i installed bumblebee, this installed the nvidia things for me. this essentially fixed my problem and i had working graphics again, EXCEPT during my messing arround i followed the nvidia-settings dialogs advice and had run nvidia-xconfig. this created/replaced the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. deleting that file was the key to getting my resolution back
[04:43] <Ponch0> I have to install those is what its saying?
[04:43] <yitz_> Ponch0: I'd just ignore that
[04:43] <MeXTuX> Installed Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I see the grub menu options and pick one. I see a cursor for a few seconds and then I am back in grub screen over and over and over. Any idea? I am using a Lenovo laptop
[04:43] <samskiter> wilee-nilee: appologies, i did censor though! :P
[04:43] <Ponch0> yitz_: sure but I can't open the ubuntu software center hehe
[04:44] <MeXTuX> It is a Lenovo 3000-G530
[04:44] <usr13> Ponch0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure software-center
[04:44] <gry> samskiter, ok
[04:44] <samskiter> gry: just going to reboot and see if this persists.
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> samskiter, That is not acceptable just a heads up. ;)
[04:44] <gry> samskiter, happy you got it, good luck
[04:44] <samskiter> fair enough :)
[04:44] <samskiter> gry: thanks, reporting back shortly
[04:45] <Ponch0> usr13: I just got those warnings again and it still crashed.
[04:45] <usr13> Ponch0: What warnings?
[04:45] <usr13> !paste | Ponch0
[04:46] <Ponch0> usr13: http://pastebin.com/TxD80K9D
[04:48] <usr13> Ponch0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/workrave/+bug/1159023
[04:48] <grant_> MeXTuX:  Try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/287206/ubuntu-13-04-wont-boot-after-grub
[04:49] <Ponch0> usr13: wow thanks!
[04:49] <samskiter> gry: affirmativo
[04:49] <samskiter> from my experience: it seems that people with quantus machines just need to bin everything nvidia and then install bumblebee
[04:50] <usr13> Night all...
[04:53] <gry> samskiter: bingo :)
[04:54] <kamran1> hi
[04:55] <MeXTuX> grant_ I will try it. Thank you
[04:55] <makara> anyone else having trouble with the horizontal scrollbars in 13.04?
[04:58] <samskiter> gry: i can even make it sleep occasionally now - have to try a couple of times though :( back to where iw as on 12.10. i wonder if ill get better battery life with bumblebee installed
[04:58] <samskiter> makara i seem to have lost horizontal scrolling on my touchpad if thats what u mean?
[04:59] <makara> samskiter, I can still pgup/dn and arrows keys work. Does the orange bar show for you?
[05:00] <makara> i just can't grab it and drag
[05:00] <samskiter> makara:  im on kde
[05:00] <makara> ah, this is different
[05:00] <samskiter> yea i just found my two finger scrolling setting was off in synatiks so fixed now :)
[05:03] <bacter> 0.0
[05:05] <liam[1]> hey bros!
[05:05] <liam[1]> how's the newest version of ubuntu
[05:05] <grant_> It's like a big stick of butter
[05:07] <hrolf> I booted to Ubuntu and got a shell > BusyBox initramfs ...............
[05:07] <hrolf> Searched the internet and the solution I got was to run Boot-Repair
[05:07] <hrolf> I ran it through live usb, but now it even removed the grub I had installed
[05:07] <Ponch0> ok all these sites are talking about settings/privacy tab and I don't have one...
[05:07] <hrolf> and my system is directly booting to Windows
[05:07] <hrolf> what should I do?
[05:08] <Ponch0> I dont have privacy tab that is, the settings is there
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> hrolf, Post the bootinfo summary that was made by running the tool.
[05:09] <hrolf> wilee-nilee: I didn't copy it :(
[05:09] <hrolf> wilee-nilee: Should I go and do it again?
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> hrolf, HYeah.
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> yeah*
[05:09] <hrolf> wilee-nilee: Okay, brb.
[05:10] <makara> liam[1], it's snappy
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> hrolf, You can just run the summary.
[05:10] <mellyssamoraes> quit
[05:10] <liam[1]> radical!
[05:10] <liam[1]> i don't eat butter
[05:10] <liam[1]> so that's bad!
[05:13] <makara> new ext4 feature puts small files inline, so hdd doesn't work so hard finding itsy-bitsy files spread out over the disk
[05:13] <Ponch0> eat lard
[05:20] <HRH_H_Crab> i have upgraded to 13.04 and since doing so i am unable to log in to any gui. X seems healthy but both lightdm and gdm simply display the background wallpaper and a cursor. there is no actual way to log in. can anyone offer any suggestions?
[05:27] <Amhndu> Hi ubuntuers
[05:28] <fosky> hi Amhndu
[05:28] <Amhndu> It seems quite silence here
[05:28] <fosky> It was less silent earlier... you just missed it.
[05:29] <Amhndu> :d
[05:29]  * fosky comforts Amhndu 
[05:30] <Amhndu> Hey fosky are any other channels for ubuntu , linux etc. Here
[05:30] <fosky> ##linux
[05:31] <devjustforfun> Ubuntu short keys overwrite short keys of my application. What i should do?
[05:31] <devjustforfun> Any suggestions ?
[05:33] <Amhndu> Its been a month i installed ubuntu, i later realised i dont have no system sounds
[05:34] <elkng> "Ubuntu short keys", do you mean GNOM's short keys ?
[05:34] <Amhndu> I can play Music files but there
[05:34] <elkng> s/GNOM/GNOME
 yes i'm think
[05:35] <devjustforfun> it's a gnome
[05:36] <l057c0d3r> gnome?
[05:37] <devjustforfun> for example combination Alt+F8 not working in my application because GNOME's short keys overwrite it
[05:37] <l057c0d3r> devjustforfun, try removing the hotkey's from the gnome system settings
[05:38] <l057c0d3r> if you open system settings and click on keyboard..  they are in the shrotcut's tab
[05:38] <devjustforfun> i just need another context. for example when i'm in application preferable should be application context not a GNOM's
[05:39] <devjustforfun> and if in application that short cut not used it should use GNOM's
[05:39] <OerHeks> devjustforfun, likely your application does not meet linux standards.
[05:39] <l057c0d3r> i'm not really sure if that's possible..  but i'll look into it for u...  but a quick fix would be to just change the gnome shortcut to something else...  or add ctrl to the key sequence in gnome..
 thanks
[05:46] <elkng> http://i.imgur.com/tbSDGQA.jpg
[05:46] <elkng> wrong channel
[05:47] <fosky> keyboard has just stopped working now after upgrading to 13.10
[05:48] <fosky> Ctrl+Alt+F# still works though, and I can still click on buttons / interact in general
[05:48] <fosky> just can't type anything
[05:48] <elkng> how many times that sentence "**** has just stopped working now after upgrading to ****" appears here per day ?  is there any statistics ?
[05:49] <fosky> highly doubt it elkng
[05:52] <hemppa> hello
[05:52] <geomyidae> How hard is it to get a small project set up in a PPA?
[05:52] <geomyidae> Is there a guide for how to take [working Git repo] -> [ppa with auto-builds] ?
[05:53] <elkng> l057c0d3r: haven't watched sailor moon
[05:54] <hemppa> i tried to format my secondary HDD but got this wierd error
[05:54] <hemppa> http://pastebin.com/j2v5SVLE
[05:54] <l057c0d3r> hemppa, thats because you are trying to format a drive that is currently being used by the system
[05:55] <geomyidae> "weird" :P
[05:55] <gry> hemppa, tried unmounting it first?
[05:55] <hemppa> im not good at using this i just found guide from internet to format a hdd
[05:56] <hemppa> thanks for helping :D
[05:56] <geomyidae> Sorry, that wasn't appropriate of me. Do you get what l057c0d3r and gry told you? The PC is using that drive right now and so it's protecting it from you formatting it.
[05:56] <OerHeks> hemppa, boot from the ubuntu cd in live mode, and do your thing
[05:56] <hemppa> worked after unmouting
[05:56] <geomyidae> hemppa: so you need to "release"/"unmount" it
[05:57] <geomyidae> okay, now I'm dumbing it down too much :P sorry!
[05:57] <l057c0d3r> hemppa..  and btw   sda1..  sounds like your main hdd
[05:57] <l057c0d3r> are you sure you have the right drive selected
[05:57] <gry> hemppa, so it did, cool
[05:58] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[05:59] <gry> l057c0d3r, were it main hdd it would complain louder when unmounted
[05:59] <kaaka> how does canonical make money out of ubuntu?
[05:59] <gry> kaaka, commercial support
[05:59] <kaaka> suppot how?
[06:00] <gry> kaaka, http://www.ubuntu.com/support left bottom corner
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> kaaka, I'm not sure they are in a profit mode.
[06:00] <IdleOne> kaaka: canonical.com has info on the services they offer
[06:00] <gry> wilee-nilee, Canonical is not a non-profit, they do a few paid services
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> gry, Right, bit I beleive there overhead is beyond the income still.
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> but*
[06:01] <kaaka> how are they helping develop ubuntu?
[06:01] <kaaka> it's the community that writes the code right?
[06:01] <gry> a few employees are working on the development in addition to the community I believe
[06:02] <kaaka> gry, how does a few employee change anything?
[06:03] <rotifer> anyone on have any experies with an older lto-1 drive i can read rewind and erase but cant write
[06:03] <l057c0d3r> nope sorry..
[06:04] <geomyidae> Why doesn't Canonical take BTC donations already?
[06:04] <IdleOne> !ot
[06:04] <geomyidae> Sorry IdleOne
[06:04] <kaaka> what's a BTC donation?
[06:05] <gry> kaaka, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment has an overview of the development process, anyone can get started and the process is as translarent as possible
[06:05] <IdleOne> kaaka: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[06:05] <Fad-i> hello I am using ubuntu 12.04, how can I mount windows using a terminal?? please help
[06:05] <l057c0d3r> thats not bitcoin is it
[06:06] <l057c0d3r> because i heard they are going to flop
[06:06] <yitz_> l057c0d3r: If you know where it's heading, short the market and make millions
[06:06] <l057c0d3r> just looking at trends in the market
[06:06] <IdleOne> Please focus on Ubuntu support and keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:06] <geomyidae> sorry, I keep PMing people, as IdleOne suggested, I'm chatty about this OT topic in #ubuntu-offtopic or #{the name of the topic ;p}
[06:06] <gry> kaaka, the employees work on things such as marketing and some of the development just to make sure deadlines are met. community reports bugs, does volunteer support, and generally submits any fixes or proposals, artwork, etc
[06:07] <l057c0d3r> but still involves money to get in the market to short the market.
[06:07] <Guest82567> Fad-i: you can use the mount command.  mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 (or whatever your drive is)
[06:07] <l057c0d3r> but this is not the channel for this topic so im done :-p
[06:07] <Fad-i> plase help
[06:07] <gry> l057c0d3r, there is a #bitcoin channel here btw
[06:07] <gry> Fad-i, what's up?
[06:07] <gry> kaaka, /join #ubuntu-offtopic, we could chat there a bit
[06:07] <Fad-i> I am using ubuntu 12.04 how can I mount windows using a terminal?
[06:07] <OerHeks> Fad-i, install ntfs-3g and you are abe to browse/read/write ntfs
[06:08] <OerHeks> c/abe/able
[06:08] <kaaka> wow, I didn't know there was an off topic forum
[06:09] <nuwhvpn> when I execute sudo ./x11rdp-o-matic.sh it tells me that: sudo: x11rdp-o-matic.sh: command not found | help me, please!
[06:09] <nuwhvpn> and the file it's there
[06:09] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:09] <l057c0d3r> who do i takl to about a ban on #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:10] <raddy> I find Ubuntu 13 to be slower than 12.10
[06:10] <raddy> Is it only me?
[06:10] <l057c0d3r> i haven't been able to join that channel for quite a while now...  and i'm not really sure why...
[06:10] <somsip> l057c0d3r: #ubuntu-ops
[06:11] <OerHeks> nuwhvpn, try to use the full path, unless you are in the same folder as your script
[06:11] <grant_> raddy, I didn't notice that much of a difference, but I don't think it's any slower.
[06:11] <raddy> grant_: at least you didn't notice it be faster too, right?
[06:11] <nuwhvpn> OerHeks, when I use the full path, the script is executing but it wont "see" some files in the same folder
[06:11] <AAA> raddy: what exactly is slower?
[06:12] <raddy> AAA : browser startup, especially Google Chrome.
[06:13] <raddy> AAA : Login process after entering password.
[06:13] <raddy> AAA ; there is a very noticeable difference.
[06:13] <AAA> raddy: if it is only startup (a couple seconds) why debug? if it works fine after start
[06:14] <raddy> AAA : Google Chrome takes around 10 seconds to start as opposed to 4 seconds.
[06:15] <raddy> AAA : login process and Google Chrome was much faster in 12:10
[06:15] <AAA> raddy: are you using beta chominium builds?
[06:16] <raddy> AAA : Ubuntu 13.04 was said to be much faster than 12x
[06:16] <raddy> AAA : Nope :(, i use Google Chrome, not Chromium
[06:16] <AAA> raddy: I think you are nit picking
[06:16] <raddy> AAA : :)
[06:17] <raddy> AAA : Let it be nit picking.
[06:17] <ryandev> My Ubuntu 13.04 is so much faster I can actually use it now instead of using kubuntu instead, I get no lag (except for the start menu but I enabled all the extra search features)
[06:17] <AAA> there are 10 different reasons the speedc could be skeweed
[06:18] <raddy> ryandev:  May be kubuntu had been slower to you, not Ubuntu 12.10 in my end.
[06:18] <MrEmerald> Anyone around? having a problem with clicking files
[06:19] <AAA> MrEmerald: that is easily avoided with command line tools...
[06:19] <raddy> AAA: I installed Ubuntu 13.04 as an upgrade.
[06:19] <l057c0d3r> MrEmerald, is this a new development...
[06:19] <l057c0d3r> also have youj added a different mouse lately..  like one of the r.a.t. series of mice
[06:19] <MrEmerald> I am still running 12.04 and has been happening for awhile, I run ubuntu dualboot with windows 7, just finally starting to use ubuntu more and more though
[06:19] <raddy> AAA : grant_: Ubuntu Contacts working in your end ?
[06:19] <MrEmerald> using a wireless mouse that came with computer
[06:20] <MrEmerald> I have noticed it happens after using the touchscreen
[06:20] <ryandev> I will be clearer, I switched from ubuntu 12 to kubuntu because unity was not working out and neither was gnome; I did not want to use lxdm of xfce. I never used kde before I always did not like it, but it worked for me for 12
[06:20] <raddy> ryandev:  Is Ubuntu Contacts working in your end ?
[06:21] <AAA> raddy: haven't tried
[06:21] <ryandev> Yes, I have no contacts, sounds about right :)
[06:21] <l057c0d3r> i see..  I'm sorry MrEmerald.. i dont know much about touchscreens and how they work in ubuntu..  however i did have a simular issues with my r.a.t. mouse.  a simple addition to the xorg.conf file fixed the issue though
[06:21] <raddy> Online Accounts is not working in Ubuntu Contacts.
[06:22] <ryandev> To  be honest, I never used it so I can't say whether it works or not
[06:22] <ryandev> I have online accounts setup and they aren't appearing in Ubuntu Contacts, if they were supposed to then it does not work
[06:23] <MrEmerald> lo57c0d3r: what command? I am open to anything :)
[06:23] <Fad-i> I still can't mount windows using a terminal plz help
[06:23] <l057c0d3r> oh it was r.a.t. specific entry..
[06:23] <yitz_> Fad-i: install ntfs-3g and then use the mount command
[06:24] <yitz_> Unless ubuntu ships with ntfs-g3 already
[06:24] <fishcooker> is there any tutorial for installing ubuntu windows 8 system that support uefi
[06:24] <ryandev> I always though Windows Mounted automatically in recent versions
[06:24] <yitz_> ryandev: No clue. The desktop environment may do that for you. The kernel doesn't
[06:24] <AAA> ?help uefi
[06:24] <MrEmerald> looks like a nice mouse lol
[06:24] <fishcooker> step by step would be nice
[06:24] <raddy> ryandev: same here
[06:24] <Fad-i> yitz_ I am a beginner  so can you plz be more specific how do i install it?
[06:25] <fishcooker> i will be using 12.10
[06:25] <yitz_> Fad-i: Nah. There's sufficient documentation online for installing software on Ubuntu
[06:25] <AAA> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:26] <Fad-i> thanks anyway
[06:26] <shady_> hi ubottu
[06:26] <fishcooker> thankyou AAA
[06:27] <AAA> fishcooker: live and learn
[06:27] <raddy> ryandev: contacts are not working in my end too
[06:27] <shady_> hi everyone
[06:28] <shady_> I need help fixing my input device
[06:28] <l057c0d3r> shady_, what type of input devicde...
[06:28] <shady_> buillt in microfone
[06:29] <AAA> alsaconfig?
[06:29] <Caithness> is there a recommended partition scheme for macs?
[06:29] <Caithness> without using bootcamp
[06:29] <nevyn> I do not need... a microphone...
[06:30] <sparklr> Im trying to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04, It says "Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Raring Ringtail' Development release. This is still a ALPHA release, Do not install it on production" . Isn't 13.04 release officially out now?
[06:30] <AAA> Caithness: it depends if your mac has the old or new style fw
[06:30] <MrEmerald> I have found my problem, it is the touchscreen function of my computer
[06:31] <Caithness> AAA: it's a 2010 macbook pro 13 inch
[06:31] <MrEmerald> but I now have to find out how to disable the touchscreen ll
[06:31] <MrEmerald> lol*
[06:31] <Caithness> the presence of the recovery partition is what's giving me pause
[06:31] <marandi> guys , load button in restore section in aptoncd  wont work and i got error even after i install hal ! what should i do ? ( i use xubuntu ) !
[06:31] <AAA> Caithness: then it should have an intel processor and work with most mainstream distros
[06:32] <fishcooker> is it problem when we installing ubuntu without swap partition
[06:32] <fishcooker> ?
[06:32] <ryandev> raddy: It does work sorry, I did not know how to use it. I search for a contact and they appeared
[06:33] <raddy> ryandev: :)
[06:33] <raddy> ryandev:  : not working here, can you assist me?
[06:34] <l057c0d3r> fishcooker, all depends on how much ram you have
[06:34] <ryandev> raddy: I thought they should appear automatically in the right hand box lol
[06:34] <l057c0d3r> and if you are going to enable hibernation or not
[06:34] <raddy> ryandev: Have you configured any email client?
[06:34] <MrEmerald> Anyone know why $ doesn't work in terminal for me?
[06:34] <marandi> guys , load button in restore section in aptoncd  wont work and i got error even after i install hal ! what should i do ? ( i use xubuntu ) !
[06:35] <ryandev> raddy: I have ThunderBird setup,  twitter, facebook, google talk
[06:35] <smart> help me please
[06:36] <Fad-i> the command sudo apt-get install... is not working any help?
[06:36] <fishcooker> l057c0d3r: 4 gigs is ready for that?
[06:36] <l057c0d3r> smart, whats the question
[06:36] <raddy> ryandev: Does it show google contacts?
[06:36] <smart> i am using ubuntu 12.04 as server
[06:36] <raddy> ryandev:  thunderbird can't access google contacts by default.
[06:37] <l057c0d3r> fishcooker, you should be fine with out a swap..  although swap is nice to have incase you run out of mem
[06:37] <Ben64> !details | Fad-i
[06:37] <smart> i also create dhcp on this for internet distribution
[06:37] <l057c0d3r> and with out swap.. like i said.. u will not be able to enable hibernation if its something you would want
[06:38] <Fad-i> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and when i try to use this command it says Reading package lists... Error!
[06:38] <Fad-i> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:38] <Fad-i> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.getdeb.net_ubuntu_dists_precise-getdeb_apps_binary-i386_Packages
[06:38] <Fad-i> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:38] <smart> the question is that how can i check the internet usage of particular ip on my ubuntu server
[06:38] <smart> how is it possible
[06:38] <ryandev> raddy: How do I check? I don't really use email for sending just receiving and my contacts are from Google+ Community, but my facebook contacts appear in gnome-contacts if that helps
[06:39] <smart> waiting for your reply
[06:39] <hemppa> what is a good irc client for ubuntu?
[06:39] <Ben64> Fad-i: looks like a problem with getdeb
[06:39] <Ben64> hemppa: i use x-chat
[06:39] <raddy> ryandev: it is ok, if you can sync Google+ Contacts
[06:39] <Tm_T> !irc | hemppa
[06:39] <Tm_T> bah
[06:40] <Fad-i> Ben64 how do I solve it?
[06:40] <fishcooker> thanks l057c0d3r
[06:40] <Ben64> Fad-i: you might want to ask whoever supports getdeb, we do not
[06:40] <ryandev> raddy: Google Contacts are in Empathy and gnome-contacts, so it is ok for me
[06:42] <smart> hey , i m waiting for reply
[06:42] <Ben64> !patience | smart
[06:42] <Chamunks> whats the best ubuntu firewall
[06:42] <somsip> !ufw | Chamunks
[06:42] <Chamunks> for someone who is just getting into firewalling in ubuntu
[06:42] <l057c0d3r> well firewall is managed by ip-tables..
[06:43] <Chamunks> iptables thats what I keep hearing about it.
[06:43] <l057c0d3r> but hang on and i will get you a good frontend
[06:43] <shady_> sorry d/c
[06:43] <smart> i am using ubuntu 12.04 as server    i also create dhcp on this for internet distribution   the question is that how can i check the internet usage of particular ip on my ubuntu server
[06:43] <smart> * tvw has quit ()
[06:43] <smart> i am using ubuntu 12.04 as server    i also create dhcp on this for internet distribution   the question is that how can i check the internet usage of particular ip on my ubuntu server
[06:44] <marandi> guys , load button in restore section in aptoncd  wont work and i got error even after i install hal ! what should i do ? ( i use xubuntu ) !
[06:44] <ryandev> smart, is not so smart. :(
[06:44] <billy_ran_away> I messed up… I was trying to migrate from one raid to another and long story short I've had two raid arrays with the same lvm vg names...
[06:44] <l057c0d3r> chamunks, check out gufw..  its a frontend.. and manages ip-tables for you graphically
[06:44] <billy_ran_away> Now I'm trying to go back to the old one and I'm getting "Incorrect metadata area header checksum"
[06:44] <greenn00b> just tried installing ubuntu (Lubuntu_powerPC_quantal) and it didnt work....   booted off CD got to it saying "starting Kernal" then the screen got brighter it said if found the display and then the screen went black.  can anyone advise?
[06:45] <smart> mind your business ryandev
[06:45] <hulu> helo!
[06:45] <Chamunks> thanks l057c0d3r I was about to ask about a gui
[06:46] <hulu> who can help me with ubuntu livecd
[06:46] <Chamunks> I mainly need to kind of get the concepts then I can play with the cli for this one
[06:46] <ryandev> Chamunks: You might consider learning the command line for full benefits :)
[06:46] <Chamunks> if i break ip tables / ufw I break my internets n such.
[06:46] <shady_> I'm using 13.04 and I have problem with the builtin microphone
[06:46] <l057c0d3r> i myself like gufw..  its nice...
[06:46] <Chamunks> ryandev, yeah i usually do but currently needs over wants I want to learn but need it working.
[06:46] <Ben64> smart: people here are volunteers, they do not work for you. don't have an attitude and do not repeat yourself quickly.
[06:46] <l057c0d3r> and seems to work well for what i need it to
[06:47] <Chamunks> l057c0d3r, are there others you know of also so that I can compare?
[06:47] <l057c0d3r> shady_, have you typed alsamixer into a term and checked to see if the mic is enabled and not muted
[06:48] <shady_> no
[06:48] <Fad-i> hulu what's the problem?
[06:48] <l057c0d3r> yeah there is one or two others that i have used before.... firestarter for example.. but even the firestarter description sais its no loner on development and points to the one i mentioned
[06:49] <makara> how can I add my scripts folder to $PATH?
[06:50] <somsip> makara: export PATH=$PATH:/home/makara/scripts. Put it in .bashrc or similar
[06:52] <smart> i am using ubuntu 12.04 as server    i also create dhcp on this for internet distribution   the question is that how can i check the internet usage of particular ip on my ubuntu server
[06:52] <Chamunks> l057c0d3r, I feel like as soon as i switch this On toggle it will drop most of my connections.
[06:53] <makara> somsip, thanks
[06:53] <l057c0d3r> Chamunks, nope
[06:53] <lovethecode> do you have webalizer, smart?
[06:53] <mahesh_> HEY HOWZ UBUNTU 13.04
[06:53] <somsip> makara: np
[06:53] <l057c0d3r> Chamunks, it will block mainly incoming connections that are unknown
[06:53] <l057c0d3r> but most everything will work just fine..
[06:54] <l057c0d3r> only thing i had to manually add to the exceptions list was my droidmote server
[06:54] <greenn00b> having issues installing on an older G5.  (NOT an intel)
[06:54] <Chamunks> l057c0d3r, droidmote?
[06:54] <Chamunks> this name intreigues me
[06:54] <l057c0d3r> and by switching it on.. it does not block outgoign connectings at all by default
[06:54] <l057c0d3r> droidmote is an app that i have on my android phone that allows me to control the mouse and media features like play stop next vol ext from my phone
[06:55] <zihubu> lol
[06:55] <makara> why doesn't work as a script? #!/usr/bin/locate -i /home/mar/*%1*
[06:55] <lovethecode> i like tthe 13.04 very nicely, mahesh_
[06:55] <mahesh_> ANNAI TELUGU VALLU EVARU LERA
[06:55] <Chamunks> l057c0d3r, how is that I've been looking for a good solution for this.
[06:55] <mahesh_> HEY LOVETHECODE
[06:56] <lovethecode> hi mahesh_
[06:56] <makara> it says: /usr/bin/locate: invalid option -- ' '
[06:56] <mahesh_> does 13.04 has lot of bugs
[06:56] <l057c0d3r> Chamunks, on your android phone just search droidmote in the google play store.. its free..
[06:56] <l057c0d3r> and then you have to download and install the server on linux.. its free as well but you have to register on a forum to download
[06:57] <smart> i dont have
[06:57] <lovethecode> no i think it is a stable improvement.
[06:57] <ryandev> mahesh: Probably has plenty, like every operating system time will reveal them. Though it is stable for me so far.
[06:57] <mahesh_> which version is better 12.10 or 13.04  lovethecode
[06:57] <lovethecode> you may be able to install webalizer from repository, smart.
[06:58] <lovethecode> they both arent lts releaases, so id say 13.04.
[06:59] <lovethecode> good point ryandev
[06:59] <mahesh_> thanq lovethecode and ryandev
[06:59] <lovethecode> yw
[06:59] <Chamunks> interesting
[06:59] <Chamunks> l057c0d3r, ok well I certainly will be looking into this I basically need near zero setup work for droid stuff because I nuke my droid fairly often
[07:00] <Chamunks> but i want something to control my ubuntu boxes remotely.
[07:00] <lovethecode> vnc?
[07:00] <l057c0d3r> oh there is very little setup on the droid side.. its mainly a bit of setup work on the linux side the first time.. to install the server..
[07:00] <lovethecode> Chamunks
[07:00] <Chamunks> lovethecode, i tend to try and avoid vnc
[07:01] <smart> ok i have installed it
[07:01] <l057c0d3r> lovethecode, i pointed him at droidmote.. so he can do it from his phone
[07:01] <smart> now please guide me how to use it
[07:01] <lovethecode> ok
[07:01] <lovethecode> a login from a localhost subdirectory should get the ball rolling.
[07:02] <dn4> how do I know what things were installed with the ubuntu kernel
[07:02] <dn4> I need to make sure the apple_SMC is installed in the kernel
[07:03] <lovethecode> smart: theres also tech specs on webalizer.org...
[07:09] <lovethecode> nd4 good question.
[07:09] <VSK> hi, I'm using ubuntu 11.04, it doesn't show video thumbnail, but I can play that vedios.....What can I do ????
[07:10] <kairos> My sound stopped working after I muted and unmuted in alsamixer. I've restarted pulseaudio but it didn't help
[07:10] <Ben64> VSK: 11.04 is no longer supported
[07:11] <VSK> Ben64: But I got the same problem in 12.04
[07:11] <l057c0d3r> kairos, make sure the vol  exspecialy the main.. is turned up...
[07:11] <l057c0d3r> also if that does not work.. try a reboot..
[07:12] <kairos> Reboot it is
[07:12] <kairos> Sigh
[07:12] <l057c0d3r> had a few issues where i had to reboot to get my sound back...
[07:12] <l057c0d3r> blah he left already
[07:12] <ryandev> l057c0d3r: The old days were a nightmare with sound and video :), been stable for me for quite a while now though.. thankfully
[07:13] <VSK> somebody pls help me
[07:13] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2608/nautilus-video-thumbnails-without-totem   VSK
[07:13] <l057c0d3r> ryandev, yeah....  i'm not sure what i did :-p  but i lost sound and in the sound cotrol.. only think that  showed up was dummy audio
[07:14] <bazhang> !info ffmpegthumbnailer | VSK
[07:14] <VSK> bazhang : let me check, thank you
[07:14] <l057c0d3r> reboot fixed it though... although the desktop environment did crash before this happened
[07:14] <VSK> Thanks boss
[07:15] <ryandev> ryandev: I remember such issues, had to reinstall, purge, hit head off wall, go in /etc and configure without a clue what I was doing, until something worse, then had to restart pulseaudio every time I restarted, very stressful... now it just works :D
[07:15] <ryandev> worked**
[07:16] <ak5> hi, I get an error when doing `sudo apt-get update` it stalls at "Reading package lists... 99%" then prints out "Reading package lists... Error!"
[07:17] <kairos> The reboot didn't help
[07:17] <kairos> got it
[07:18] <dn4> how do I know if my fans work on my laptop
[07:18] <ryandev> dn4: Does your laptop turn off when you watch a video?
[07:18] <shady_> I have a problem with the network manager I receive a full signal from the wifi but cannot connect, ubuntu 13.04
[07:19] <dn4> ryandev, I have not tried it; I am tooo scared
[07:19] <doh> Hello guys. Another release, another non-working brightness on my Sony Vaio laptop with intel VGA :(
[07:19] <l057c0d3r> dn4.. you could install sensors..  and check the temp of your system
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> my lappy runs at around 30 to 50c
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> if your fans are not workign.. even idle.. your system should be warmer then this
[07:20] <doh> Also, hibernation is not an option now
[07:20] <ryandev> shady_: What happens when you attempt to connect?
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> doh, you have to enable hibernation manually now
[07:21] <shady_> I receive a full signal but no service
[07:21] <smart> now please guide me how to use it
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> there is a guide on the net for that.. i can look it up for you
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> dn4, btw for the sensors term app you need to install lm-sensors
[07:21] <dn4> will that work on a macbook pro?
[07:22] <ryandev> shady_: Can you do the command dmesg | grep wlan0? or replace wlan0 with your interface name?
[07:22] <l057c0d3r> dn4, not sure..  i've never had a macbook
[07:22] <ryandev> shady_: Please put result onto http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:22] <doh> l057c0d3r, thanks, but I am more concerned with Ubuntu's inability to control backlight
[07:23] <doh> xgamma inn terminal is not the solution I was looking for
[07:23] <shady_> nothing happened
[07:24] <ryandev> shady_: Did you enter into gnome-terminal?
[07:24] <l057c0d3r> doh.. let me look and see if i can get some info for you about the backlight
[07:24] <djQuery> dang launcher wont load anymore, tried to install the nvidia prop dirvers and having a hard time getting it back to using the x-org drivers
[07:25] <djQuery> yes I am on 12.04
[07:26] <shady_> ryandev i wrote the command but nothing happened
[07:26] <djQuery> err rather 13.04
[07:26] <ryandev> shady_: Please type "iwconfig" to determine your interface name, then replace wlan0 with it; if dmesg returns an empty result
[07:26] <doh> SVT1311M1ES - intel VGA
[07:26] <doh> l057c0d3r, SVT1311M1ES - intel VGA
[07:27] <lovethecode__> quit
[07:27] <tootimid> Hi I have a question about no sound when using timidity&pulseaudio
[07:28] <shady_> ryandev how to replace, sorry i'm new with ubuntu
[07:28] <tootimid> I have two computers, on one i fixed it by setting the timidity home to /var/run/timidity (pulseaudio then places files there)
[07:28] <tootimid> but on another computer this is not working...
[07:28] <djQuery> dang launcher wont load anymore, tried to install the nvidia prop dirvers and having a hard time getting it back to using the x-org drivers
[07:29] <budus_AWAY> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[07:29] <budus_AWAY> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[07:29] <ryandev> shady_: No problem, could you paste the result to the link I gave you for iwconfig and I will update the command
[07:29] <bazhang> !it | budus_AWAY
[07:30] <JoshStrobl> Having an issue with Online Accounts constantly crashing. Thought it was just isolated to Empathy but doesn't seem so (did a purge then re-install). Seems to fail immediately after opening, however doesn't seem to trigger Report A Bug.
[07:32] <makara> doh, did you try xbacklight?
[07:32] <shady_> I posted it
[07:33] <ryandev> shady_: Thanks, can I have the link to the paste?
[07:33] <shady_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621759/
[07:34] <doh> makara, it did install it, along with something called inotify-tools
[07:34] <doh> I am yet to make any progress
[07:34] <ryandev> shady_: Ok so your interface is wlan0; and you entered into gnome-terminal exactly "dmesg | grep wlan0"?
[07:35] <shady_> ryandev:  yes
[07:35] <ryandev> shady_: Could you also attempt connecting to your wireless and then type "dmesg" by itself? and paste the results for this
[07:36] <shady_> in  the terminal
[07:36] <shady_> ?
[07:36] <ryandev> shady_: yep :)
[07:37] <tootimid> how can I get timidity to run with pulseaudio? do I need to script it to start when a user logs in? Why is it working on one computer and not on the other?
[07:37] <shady_> yes i did, u needme to post the results
[07:37] <ryandev> shady_: Yes please
[07:37] <nashant> Hi guys. For some reason I can't write to a directory with ownership  userx:groupx  permissions  775. I've added my user to the group groupx already, but I'm still getting permission denied
[07:38] <shady_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621776/
[07:38] <nashant> Anyone got any idea why this might be?
[07:39] <doh> xbacklight doesn't do antthing :(
[07:42] <shady_> ryandev:  you got it?
[07:42] <sathish> Hi, google-chrome working on 13.04 yet?
[07:42] <nfrmatk> Yup
[07:42] <nashant> Got it. Needed to restart shell
[07:42] <bazhang> hello stree
[07:42] <nfrmatk> Well, chromium at least
[07:43] <sathish> nfrmatk: thanks.
[07:43] <nfrmatk> Np
[07:43] <ryandev> shady_: I think it is related to the messages "disabling HT as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP", and "disabling VHT as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP". I am checking this out for you.
[07:45] <shady_> ryandev:  I don't understand, but thank u for your concern:)
[07:49] <fishcooker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_partition
[07:49] <fishcooker> Other: must be located at the start of a GPT disk, and must have a "boot" flag
[07:49] <fishcooker> what "the start of a gpt disk" ?
[07:50] <ryandev> shady_: There are a few problems with the ath9k driver in ubuntu 13.04, but nothing stands out to me. If you can type lspci into the terminal and paste the result I might be able to find a report bug
[07:50] <OerHeks> fishcooker, start = first partition at the beginning of the disk
[07:51] <shady_> ok
[07:52] <Lord_> My ubuntu server did not start after upgrade: I lost connection during upgrade to 13.04 , reconnect, run sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo reboot but looks like it's not work, what to do next? I can reboot using rescue system, chroot into Ubuntu (raid +lvm in my case)
[07:52] <Lord_> But need instructions...
[07:53] <OerHeks> Lord_, use "sudo apt-get install -f " to correct these problems
[07:53] <fishcooker1> it is shipped with win8 pre installed OerHeks
[07:53] <shady_> ryandev:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621795/
[07:56] <dn4> how do I turn my fans on for my macbook pro
[07:57] <OerHeks> fishcooker1, i don't know if you just can proceed with any free space.
[07:57] <dn4> my gpu is at 71C 161F and the fans are not on
[07:57] <OerHeks> dn4 in the mactel pages there is a PPA for fancontrol > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[07:58] <OerHeks> !mac
[07:58] <fishcooker1> hmmm.. it means that my win8 will not boot after delete those partition
[07:59] <jesse___> Hello. I did a fresh install of 13.04 and it worked great for about a day.  Then one day, for no reason my sound stopped working.  Does anyone know what the deal is?
[07:59] <fishcooker1> it seems
[08:00] <fishcooker1> OerHeks: i've follow this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system but still no luck
[08:00] <fishcooker1> am i missing something
[08:00] <fishcooker1> ?
[08:01] <fishcooker1> i do really install fresh ubuntu but ..
[08:01] <fishcooker1> why win8 boot first.. no grub at all
[08:01] <OerHeks> fishcooker1, i would not just delete a partition, just decrease one with windows diskmanagment and use that space
[08:02] <OerHeks> oh you do not see grub2? hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu
[08:02] <smart> i am using ubuntu 12.04 as server    i also create dhcp on this for internet distribution   the question is that how can i check the internet usage of particular ip on my ubuntu server
[08:03] <bazhang> smart, try #ubuntu-server
[08:03] <bazhang> jesse___, open terminal type alsamixer, be sure nothing is muted
[08:03] <smart> i m using already server ubuntu 12.04
[08:04] <ryandev> shady_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/240234/how-do-i-get-an-atheros-ar9485-wireless-card-working That is all I can find that may be useful to you
[08:04] <shady_> Thank you
[08:05] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | fishcooker1
[08:05] <tootimid> about my issue above: i fixed it by setting the default output sink
[08:05] <ryandev> shady_: Has no answer but the person has the same problem so it may be worth keeping your eye on it
[08:05] <jesse___> bazhang unfortunately, nothing appears to be muted andi still dont have sound.  another strange thing is on the first day i used ubuntu, i had the speaker item on the systray in the top-corner, but now that appears to be gone
[08:06] <shady_> Thank you
[08:06] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:06] <Lord_> OerHeks, thank you, can you provide some more info about chrooting - I have md0 with something not mounted without fs type declaration, md1 with /boot and md2 with / and also I need mount dev sys proc, right?
[08:06] <cristian_c> there is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned
[08:06] <cristian_c> also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc
[08:07] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[08:07] <kairos> There's a bunch of spots in the middle of my screen where it pixels keep dropping from what is supposed to be displayed, and display the default Ubuntu background
[08:07] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:07] <kairos> However, whenever that area of the screen is refreshed (i.e., scrolling in a browser,) it restarts
[08:07] <hammommah> quick question, if i have a partition setup for my /home can i share it between 2 different versions of ubuntu, ie 12.04 and 13.04 both using the same /home partition? or will this create issues?
[08:08] <l057c0d3r> kairos, are you using binary video drivers?
[08:08] <kairos> l057c0d3r: I'm not sure
[08:10] <kairos> l057c0d3r: I'm using nVidia's driver
[08:10] <doh> So, guys
[08:10] <l057c0d3r> that could be it..
[08:10] <doh> xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness X.X does work
[08:10] <kairos> l057c0d3r: Is there a fix?
[08:10] <l057c0d3r> not to fluent with nvidia stuff though.. amd person myself
[08:10] <kairos> Ahd
[08:10] <kairos> Oh*
[08:10] <jesse___> I installed Ubuntu 13.04 on the day it came out.  Since that time, no software has identified itself as needing an upgrade.  When i  go to software updater, it says "Your system is up to date." I find this strange.
[08:10] <doh> how do I bind this to fn keys?
[08:10] <kairos> jesse___: sudo apt-get update
[08:10] <kairos> Try that
[08:11] <l057c0d3r> jesse___, or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would be a better option
[08:11] <kairos> Or that
[08:11] <jesse___> Kairos: It downloads the headers but does not update any software
[08:11] <kairos> I shouldn't try to help people
[08:11] <Lord_> How to chroot to ubuntu correctly? Can I use commands from this guide to mount dev proc sys?
[08:11] <Lord_> http://www.exherbo.org/docs/install-guide.html
[08:11] <l057c0d3r> well more like sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:11] <Ben64> l057c0d3r: actually it needs the update first
[08:12] <kairos> Yay, I was right
[08:12] <kairos> Sort of
[08:12] <jesse___> l057c0d3r: It does not download any software
[08:12] <jesse___> only headers
[08:12] <Ben64> then its up to date
[08:12] <l057c0d3r> yep
[08:12] <l057c0d3r> thats what i would sau
[08:12] <jesse___> Ben64: it hasnt updated a single piece of software since i installed it on the launch day
[08:12] <Ben64> 5 days ago
[08:12] <kairos> :P
[08:12] <jesse___> right
[08:13] <kairos> I didn't realize it was only 5 days
[08:13] <ryandev> Perhaps check to see how often it is set to automatically check for updates?
[08:13] <jesse___> daily...
[08:13] <l057c0d3r> right.. i dont thinky any updates have been released in the last 5 days though
[08:13] <jesse___> oh ok
[08:13] <kairos> jesse___: 5 days isn't that long for software updates
[08:13] <l057c0d3r> mine has not updated since launch day
[08:13] <jesse___> Anyway, thanks all!
[08:13] <kairos> Np
[08:13] <l057c0d3r> yep no problem
[08:14] <l057c0d3r> and Ben64 heh yeah.. i realised that thats why i fixed :-p
[08:14] <l057c0d3r> sorry getting sleepy
[08:14] <ryandev> I just got a few updates: kde-config-touchpad kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-netbook-default-settings kubuntu-settings-desktop kubuntu-settings-netbook
[08:14] <ryandev>   plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text print-manager steam-launcher
[08:14] <ryandev> but they are for kubuntu software
[08:14] <l057c0d3r> ahh.. well i run ubuntu gnome :-p
[08:14] <doh> \exit
[08:15] <ryandev> I was using kubuntu on 12 because unity did not work, but now I'm on unity because it works since upgrading  :)
[08:15] <kairos> I'm using i3
[08:15] <julian__> hi everyone. i just upgraded to 13.04, now the system does not shut down correctly anymore. at some point during the "shutdown splash screen" it just halts and waits there forever (at least, many many hours). however "# shutdown -h now" does work, seemingly without any issues. any idea on what it can do to make the "gui-menu-shutdown-button-thingy" work?
[08:16] <mysticalzero> hi. i've managed to build the latest libdrm (version 2.4.44) from source. however, i wanted to build a deb out of it. i followed http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html but it stops at "dh_install: libdrm-dev missing files (usr/lib/lib*.a), aborting". I went into the debian/libdrm-dev/usr/lib directory of the debianized source and it is empty. any pointers on what should i do? I've been searching for solutions
[08:16] <mysticalzero> for hours but to no avail.
[08:16] <FloodBot1> mysticalzero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <hammommah> quick question, if i have a partition setup for my /home can i share it between 2 different versions of ubuntu, ie 12.04 and 13.04 both using the same /home partition? or will this create issues?
[08:17] <l057c0d3r> mysticalzero, ignore FloodBot  he gets jumpy :-p
[08:17] <kairos> There's a bunch of spots in the middle of my screen where it pixels keep dropping from what is supposed to be displayed, and display the default Ubuntu background
[08:17] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, the only issue i see it causing would be with settings on apps..
[08:17] <l057c0d3r> if you install change something on an app in one vesrion it will change it in the other
[08:18] <hammommah> would there be many differnces in the settings between versions do you think?
[08:18] <l057c0d3r> that and might cause an issue with diferent versions of an app.. if the os's have the same software but different version
[08:18] <l057c0d3r> other then that.. i don't really see an issue with it..
[08:18] <l057c0d3r> anyone else any idea's
[08:19] <l057c0d3r> sounds safe to me though.. unless you have your home directory encrypted
[08:19] <hammommah> might make home partition, back it up and give it a try
[08:19] <hammommah> no encryption
[08:20] <l057c0d3r> i do know that you can wipe your home direcotry and all it will do is remove custom settings for your apps
[08:20] <l057c0d3r> so it should be safe
[08:20] <hammommah> tyvm
[08:21] <ryandev> hammommah: What do you mean by sharing it? What if you install an app on 12 and 13 uses the same settings file in your home folder? Or other common functions such as login scripts etc.
[08:22] <l057c0d3r> ryandev, right.. thats what i was saying to him.. i dont really see an issue with it
[08:23] <l057c0d3r> however like i said..  if you change a setting on one version.. it would change it in the other..
[08:23] <l057c0d3r> and i did mention the fact that some settings files may be slightly different if both apps are not at the same version
[08:23] <l057c0d3r> but in general.. it should not cause a major problem that is not revertable
[08:24] <hammommah> if all fails i'll just deklete 13.04
[08:24] <hammommah> ill let you know how i go
[08:24] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, i think u will be fine..
[08:24] <l057c0d3r> but yeah.. let me know how it works out for u
[08:24] <ryandev> l057c0d3r: My main question was what he meant by sharing it :P, if another folder is created in the home partition for another user, 13 may overwrite the .encryptfs folder
[08:24] <ryandev> and ruin both operating systems?
[08:25] <l057c0d3r> ?
[08:25] <l057c0d3r> well he said no encryption was being used
[08:25] <hammommah> ohhhh
[08:25] <l057c0d3r> or are you talking about permissions
[08:25] <hammommah> i only have one user on this puter
[08:25] <l057c0d3r> and really.. its /home were talking about
[08:26] <l057c0d3r> i've cleared the home folder a few times.. in then past with other setups just to restore all default settings..
[08:26] <hammommah> both same name both same uid
[08:26] <l057c0d3r> and never had an issue
[08:26] <hammommah> meh i'll give it a go, lol famous last words
[08:26] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, just back up anything you dont want to loose and you should be fine in my opinion.. and if soemthing does break.. u've got the backup
[08:27] <hammommah> will do
[08:27] <l057c0d3r> i dont see anything in the /home folder breaking the whole system
[08:27] <ryandev> I never noticed it was not encrypted, but you know... the future may enforce it
[08:27] <l057c0d3r> heh that was one of my first questions... is it encrypted..
[08:27] <l057c0d3r> because yeah..  that could cause a lot of problems :-p
[08:28] <l057c0d3r> causing the loss of all data in the /home folder
[08:29] <hammommah> no encryption, all good
[08:29] <ryandev> Which I'm not guilty of doing before >_>
[08:29] <hammommah> havent we all :)
[08:29] <l057c0d3r> lol
[08:30] <l057c0d3r> its ok ryandev..  you have to learn somehow.. and trial by error seems to be the best method for most linux users :-p
[08:31] <tuffgong> any help with LAMP installed but failure to run
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> ryandev  backup first, then you can do what you want, trial and error
[08:31] <tuffgong> any help with LAMP installed but failure to run
[08:32] <l057c0d3r> tuffgong, what is failing to run
[08:32] <l057c0d3r> the apache mysql or php :-p
[08:32] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, lamp
[08:32] <l057c0d3r> can u access it localy
[08:32] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, yes lamp
[08:33] <tuffgong> yes through local host
[08:33] <l057c0d3r> might not have ports forwarding on your router..  which would make it so you can access from internal network but not somewhere else
[08:33] <juggle> hi
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> !details | tuffgong
[08:33] <juggle> is there rpm -q version of apt-get on ubuntu to check the program is installed or not ?
[08:33] <ryandev> always the best idea
[08:33] <ajwakeman> tuffgong: lamp is a stack consisting of apache (http), mysql/mariadb and php, they are all seperate programs which work together
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> juggle  apt-cache policy
[08:33] <l057c0d3r> heh MonkeyDust im good at digging :-p
[08:33] <ajwakeman> which is not running?
[08:33] <somsip> juggle: dpkg --get-selections | grep package
[08:34] <l057c0d3r> so tuffgong u can access your website from 127.0.0.1  but not the ip address right
[08:34] <tuffgong> MonkeyDust, l057c0d3r    though    127.0.0.1
[08:35] <l057c0d3r> you need to have the ports on your router forwarded to that computer
[08:35] <juggle> ok thank you
[08:35] <l057c0d3r> that way when someone types in the ip address..  / web address you register.. the router willl forward that traffic to the computer with the server on it
[08:35] <l057c0d3r> ports 80
[08:35] <l057c0d3r> and maybe others.. i would have to look up the others though
[08:36] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, it tell me that  This is the default web page for this server.
[08:36] <tuffgong> The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[08:36] <l057c0d3r> right
[08:36] <l057c0d3r> because you have not added a website yet\
[08:36] <l057c0d3r> or not in the right place
[08:36] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, thats the outpput
[08:36] <l057c0d3r> the default is /var/httpd/www i believe
[08:36] <l057c0d3r> make your website and put it there for the default
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> tuffgong  there's also #ubuntu-server
[08:37] <tuffgong> yes apache
[08:37] <l057c0d3r> sigh...
[08:37] <ajwakeman> l057c0d3r: i think it's just /var/www actually
[08:37] <tuffgong> yes apache MonkeyDust
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> tuffgong  what is your own language?
[08:37] <l057c0d3r> ajwakeman, might have changed.. on my old server it was in the httpd folder
[08:37] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, what about mysql
[08:38] <l057c0d3r> tuffgong, that is a database
[08:38] <l057c0d3r> if you write a web page in php.. u can access the mysql through that.. for use with forums ext.ext.
[08:38]  * l057c0d3r is wondering how much tuffgong knows about web site development..
[08:38] <l057c0d3r> sorry.. out of line
[08:38] <ajwakeman> l057c0d3r: well i think it is, i know in debian wheezy apache defaults to /var/www
[08:39] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, though its database but   i fail to access mysql
[08:39] <ajwakeman> as does rhel
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> tuffgong  first do some reading, to get familiar with apache and stuff, I guess you don't know what you want, or what you are doing
[08:39] <Ben64> well, i wouldn't suggest to someone to run apache if they're new at it, it can be dangerous
[08:39] <Ben64> at least not running it publicly
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> ben64 really
[08:40] <ajwakeman> Ben64: indeed, not publically
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> oh.. publicly yeah..
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> heh.. yeah i tested and tested and tried penetration testing ext on my server before it went live
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> and then learned more about ip-tables because of it :-p\
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> and file permissions
[08:41] <tuffgong> MonkeyDust, not that brother  first of i was in need with mysql so that i can create tables with their relationship but when i run command in terminal its tells me that mysql nit installed
[08:41] <ryandev> I bought hosting :) I'm scared of running services on my home network
[08:41] <ajwakeman> But privately to get the feel apache is pretty much working out of the box
[08:41] <l057c0d3r> tuffgong, when you type mysql in term what do u get
[08:41] <ajwakeman> i recently had to set up nginx+uwsgi+python and that was a real learning exp.
[08:42] <tuffgong> MonkeyDust, cause i know LAMP package contain all three  apache  as web server
[08:42] <ryandev> tuffgong: But do you know what they are?
[08:43] <tuffgong> ryandev, yes i know
[08:43] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r,  mysql
[08:43] <tuffgong> The program 'mysql' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[08:43] <tuffgong> sudo apt-get install mysql-client-core-5.5
[08:43] <l057c0d3r> oh.. so it does not have the client installed
[08:44] <l057c0d3r> wait the lamp package does not install the client?
[08:44] <l057c0d3r> well i guess it is a server package
[08:44] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, how do i install the client
[08:44] <l057c0d3r> with the code it gave you
[08:44] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install mysql-client
[08:45] <l057c0d3r> blah command not code but u get what im saying i hope
[08:45] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, see PM
[08:46] <ryandev> sudo apt-get install mysql-workbench to work out of the terminal
[08:46] <tuffgong> l057c0d3r, i cant paste them here those output see them in that new dialog window
[08:47] <gogasan> Hi all. OS: Ubuntu 13.04, about compiling MOSIX 3.4.0.1 kernel (3.8). When I runing script mosix.install, it returns error:
[08:47] <gogasan> arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c: В функции «arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace»:
[08:47] <gogasan> arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c:205:12: ошибка: «VSYSCALL_START» undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:47] <gogasan> arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c:205:12: замечание: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
[08:47] <gogasan> arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c:205:50: ошибка: «VSYSCALL_END» undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:47] <gogasan> arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c:209:1: предупреждение: control reaches end of non-void function [-Wreturn-type]
[08:47] <gogasan> File arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c patched by mosix.install. So, what i have to do to compile kernel with mosix support?
[08:47] <FloodBot1> gogasan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <gogasan> there is full installing log<; http://pastebin.com/zteb3a8v
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> gogasan  how is your question ubuntu reeated?
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> related*
[08:53] <gogasan> I tryed to ask at another channels and servers. no answer. Tryed there.
[08:53] <Ben64> that doesn't mean you can be offtopic here
[08:54] <gogasan> May be somebody know answer
[08:54] <Ben64> not here
[08:54] <gogasan> sorry
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> gogasan  type /msg alis list *kernel* to look for the right channel
[09:00] <rupert> Hi all, I'm trying to add a sudoers rule to be able to run dpkg-reconfigure on a specific package without sudo asking me for a password. I've added the following alias: 'Cmnd_Alias DPKGTZDATA = /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure --frontend noninteractive tzdata, ! /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure', but unfortunately it is not allowing access to the first command. How do I need to change the second part so I still have to enter a password for all the other dpkg-reconf
[09:01] <sprezzatura> how do i make a process that has been started via upstart to restart(since i have made some config  file changes)
[09:02] <shu> Morning
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> rupert  you can do that in the sudoers file, like e.g.:        username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get,/sbin/shutdown
[09:14] <Continuum> Hey!
[09:17] <opieng> How can I go to more workspaces in ubuntu?
[09:18] <tuffgong>  b
[09:18] <DJones> opieng: There is an option in system setting to enable workspaces, I think it was under display properties or something like that, once the bix is ticked, you get the workspace icon in the unity bar
[09:19] <opieng> ok thanks I will check it out, I have just moved to 13.04, I thought this was set as default in 12.10?
[09:21] <opieng> Can't see that setting anywhere?
[09:22] <growdane> REGISTER 92lovedan
[09:22] <bazhang> opieng, which shell: unity, or gnome-shell
[09:22] <DJones> opieng: I can't remember exactly where it is and I'm not on ubuntu at the minute to be able to check
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> growdane  change your password :)
[09:22] <bazhang> growdane, time to change pass
[09:22] <growdane> yes
[09:23] <opieng> shell? yikes, sorry I don't know.
[09:23] <DJones> opieng: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces
[09:23] <opieng> Ubuntu 13.04
[09:23] <bazhang> opieng, cutesy looking dock on the left?
[09:23] <DJones> opieng: The second reply on that should point you in the right direction assuming you're running Unity - System Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior tab and enabling workspaces.
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> odd: I added     @hourly rm -r ~/.cache      in crontab and it wasn't executed
[09:26] <DaVinciIT> Ubuntu 13.04. I all. I've an '.sh' file with 'exectuion property enabled. When I double click on it, ubuntu show a text editor... how to? thank you.
[09:26] <l057c0d3r> MonkeyDust, why clear it out every hour ?
[09:27] <l057c0d3r> i clear mine once a week with bleachbit
[09:27] <wdonkey> i've downloaded a .deb and installed it, the program won't work, but i can't seem to find how to remove it, it wont show in synaptic nor software center, and terminal says it isnt installed. program must take a good 350mb so i want to remove it. anyway to do a search for applications name via terminal ?
[09:27] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  for testing purposes, no goal
[09:28] <l057c0d3r> ah i see
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  learning crontab
[09:28] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, did u use gdebi
[09:28] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: whats gdebi ?
[09:29] <l057c0d3r> if you still have the .deb file and it was installed with gdebi u can open the deb file again and it will have an option to remove it
[09:29] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install gdebi
[09:29] <wdonkey> no i didnt use it
[09:29] <l057c0d3r> right click on your .deb file and click open with gdebi.. and see if it wants u to install it or if it has options to remove it
[09:29] <wdonkey> i will next time
[09:29] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: you should use full paths in cron
[09:30] <wdonkey> thanks l057c0d3r i'll try that
[09:30] <l057c0d3r> I'm glad u said that Ben64.. i didn't think about that
[09:31] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: i only have the option of installing it again
[09:31] <Ben64> yeah cron can be tricky, i usually use it to launch scripts
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  I'll try... rsync ~ didnt work either, so that must be it
[09:31] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, how did u install it the first time
[09:31] <l057c0d3r> it seems that it was not installed at all
[09:31] <Ben64> like this... */5 * * * * /home/ben64/display_off
[09:31] <Ben64> checks every 5 minutes if my screensaver is on, and if so, turns my monitor off
[09:32] <pii3> hi
[09:32] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: it was
[09:32] <wdonkey> installed it via package manager
[09:32] <wdonkey> software manager i mean
[09:32] <l057c0d3r> what apt....  ubuntu softwar center??
[09:32] <l057c0d3r> dpkg
[09:32] <pii3> i add "3com corporation 3c905c-tx/tx-m tornado rev 74" network card to my PC its detected but its only 10 Mbps not 100 Mbps?
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> what ever was used to install it didnt seem to sync it with apt ext.. thats why gdebi said it was not installed and offered to install it for u
[09:33] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: found it with the interface
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu's unity overview
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> ?
[09:34] <wdonkey> can i scan what installed package i have and do a search via the terminal or its not just a fast way ?
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey synaptic package manager
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> will show u what all is installed
[09:34] <wdonkey> yes i know that
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> and i believe u can search from within there
[09:34] <wdonkey> can i do it via the terminal
[09:34] <wdonkey> thats what i am wondering
[09:34] <Ben64> i think for manually installed packages you have to do "dpkg -r <path to package>"
[09:36] <l057c0d3r> i know dpkg -i | less
[09:36] <l057c0d3r> will show u all installed packages
[09:36] <l057c0d3r> not sure if it shows manually installed ones though
[09:37] <wdonkey> holygoly, my cpu usage just when from 3 to 8% with that command line
[09:37] <wdonkey> nothing is showing tho, it must be scanning
[09:39] <l057c0d3r> blah i should have said sudo dpkg -l | less
[09:39] <l057c0d3r> or wait
[09:39] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. i think its time to go to sleep
[09:39] <wdonkey> thanks for your help !
[09:39] <l057c0d3r> no no... dont need sudo
[09:39] <l057c0d3r> just dpkg -l less
[09:40] <l057c0d3r> wait.. did i say -i the first time.. im stupid :-p
[09:41] <wdonkey> nice, now gdebi wont recognize my root pwd
[09:42] <ak5> hi guys, I have an ubuntu instance that gets an error at `sudo apt-get update` - anyone else have this? It outputs: Reading package lists... Error! And nothing else
[09:42] <pii3> i add "3com corporation 3c905c-tx/tx-m tornado rev 74" network card to my PC its detected but its only 10 Mbps not 100 Mbps?
[09:42] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey dont need sudo anyway
[09:42] <l057c0d3r> wait what
[09:42] <l057c0d3r> oh.. shit
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> is that term with the dpgk command still running
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> err sorry for the language
[09:43] <wdonkey> i closed the terminal
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> try a reboot.. if u used -i instead of -l  because im stupid..
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> it might have locked the area needed by gdebi
[09:43] <wdonkey> brb
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> u can check this by trying to start synaptics
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> it wont work either....  if this is the case
[09:44] <wdonkey> it will work
[09:44] <wdonkey> and i need to be root to launch it, password works on synaptic
[09:44] <wdonkey> but not on gdebi
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> hmm..
[09:45] <wdonkey> ill try to reboot anyway
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> would try loign out and back in
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> or rebooting
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> if that does not work i dont know
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> because i've never had a problem with gdebi.. besides installing binary driver manually
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> heh use dpkg for that..  learned the hard way
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> and he's gone
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> sigh
[09:46] <ak5> hi guys, I have an ubuntu instance that gets an error at `sudo apt-get update` - anyone else have this? It outputs: Reading package lists... Error! And nothing else
[09:46] <ak5> I'm really at a loss here - no logs/output/-V doesn't do anything either
[09:47] <LiquidDemocracy> I am looking for a program on Ubuntu to manage people. The program should allow definition of new attributes (hobbies of a person, etc.). And recommendation?
[09:47] <ak5> LiquidDemocracy: GUI application?
[09:48] <NuSuey> well.. why didn't I get a "hey dont wanna upgrade to 13.04" in my 12.10 ubuntu? O.o
[09:48] <NuSuey> using the 64bit version i think
[09:49] <LiquidDemocracy> ak5, of course
[09:49] <ak5> LiquidDemocracy: sorry I got nothing then
[09:49] <wdonkey> damnit, i still get the wrong password thing
[09:49] <l057c0d3r> hmm thats odd
[09:50] <NuSuey> any idea?
[09:50] <wdonkey> ill check google, theres a hit and it seems a comon problem
[09:50] <wdonkey> thanks l057c0d3r !
[09:51] <l057c0d3r> right right.. but very little help i was
[09:51] <aXept> Can someone tell me how I can get a Alps touchpad working properly in 12.10 ? Its just recongnized as ps/2 generic mouse...
[09:51] <l057c0d3r> but common problem..  i would not have guessed... sincde i've never seen it before
[09:52] <jackbrown> i have a problem my file system is read only after a crash and i dunno how to fix it, is there anyone available to help me ?
[09:52] <wdonkey> comon enough to be solved and documented
[09:56] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: i did a reset of my sudo passwd with the same passwd and it seems to have solved the issue
[09:56] <l057c0d3r> good to hear
[09:56] <l057c0d3r> aXept, check this website out http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, as i mentioned right after u left....  dont use gdebi to install amd drivers manually :-p  use dpgk  heh i found that out the hard way....
[09:58] <aXept> l057c0d3r, 404 Not found...
[09:58] <l057c0d3r> really
[09:58] <aXept> l057c0d3r, tried to go to /~sforshee/, then to /touchpad/ nothing there either..
[09:59] <Guest31355> anyone know where to fond passwords and keys in unbuntu studio 12.04?
[09:59] <Guest31355> *find
[09:59] <jrib> Guest31355: for what purpose?
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> sigh sorry aXept i tried
[10:00] <Guest31355> i want to remove keyring login
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> easy.. to steal the account / access there encrypted data in there /home
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> j/k btw
[10:01] <LiquidDemocracy> I am looking for a comfortable GUI based program for gpg.
[10:01] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: i tried reinstalling the program, still wont work
[10:01] <LiquidDemocracy> For Kubutnu
[10:01] <jrib> Guest31355: if you set your keyring password to be the same as your account password, it will be automatically unlocked when you log in
[10:01] <wdonkey> now i cant remove it in gdebi
[10:01] <wdonkey> and neither in dpkg
[10:01] <l057c0d3r> wait.. so u installed it with gdebi..
[10:01] <l057c0d3r> but now u cant remove it
[10:02] <l057c0d3r> what are you trying to install
[10:02] <Guest31355> i did that and it says it's the wrong password
[10:02] <wdonkey> Draftsight
[10:02] <jrib> Guest31355: did what exactly?
[10:02] <wdonkey> a free cad program
[10:02] <NuSuey> ah.. chaning the update server to the MAIN server.. helped.. the austrian server doesn't want you to upgrade to 13.04 :O wtf :)
[10:03] <wdonkey> dont bother trying to get it, its a 110mb download
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  in crontab, it did work, using the full path, tnx
[10:03] <Guest31355> set my keyring password to account password
[10:03] <jrib> Guest31355: and you typed your account password to login at lightdm?
[10:03] <Guest31355> yes
[10:04] <jrib> Guest31355: and then what happened exactly?
[10:04] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, u running 32bit or 64bit
[10:04] <Guest31355> nothing
[10:04] <wdonkey> 64
[10:04] <jrib> Guest31355: you said it said something about a wrong password...
[10:04] <l057c0d3r> hmm everything im reading online said that its a pain to get on 64bit
[10:04] <wdonkey> might be why i'm having pain
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> see here are some pages i've read
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> http://linuxaideddesign.blogspot.com/2012/03/draftsight-and-ubuntu-1204-lts-64bit.html
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F39647%2Fhow-do-i-install-draftsight-cad&ei=ROiAUY-kJKXaygHVtoHICA&usg=AFQjCNFpJVEQHwXaLQ4A1UG3__s1Tp4TlQ&bvm=bv.45921128,d.aWc
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CD8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.bu.edu%2Fmhirsch%2F2012%2F12%2Fdraftsight-cad-software-on-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit%2F&ei=ROiAUY-kJKXaygHVtoHICA&usg=AFQjCNEu6KnHiH-HI6ktEoQ9buIWfBVolQ&bvm=bv.45921128,d.aWc
[10:07] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, sorry about that all...  gdebi is really nice for installing .deb files form gui thouhg
[10:08] <wdonkey> ill keep it handy
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> but yeah.. what im reading ..... sounds like lots of people are having problems
[10:08] <wdonkey> thanks for the help
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> with that app
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> but wait
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> have you tried starting the app from term..
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> are there any errors that pop up.  might give you a clue as to why its not working
[10:08] <wdonkey> no, i didnt
[10:08] <khaos01> hi i have setup 1 gb of swap in my laptop (4gigs ram). Is that wrong? I dont use hibernate I will face problems?
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> give it a try..
[10:08] <wdonkey> couldnt even find the app name
[10:09] <l057c0d3r> but its in your app list
[10:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[10:09] <l057c0d3r> i would start by trying draftsight
[10:10] <wdonkey> yeah i did that, lol
[10:10] <l057c0d3r> maybe some of them pages i posted will help out
[10:10] <bazhang> khaos01, thats fine
[10:11] <wdonkey> its in the app list, altho i did not find it in the "installed" section on software manager
[10:11] <wdonkey> yep im trying something
[10:11] <l057c0d3r> i dont know..  never heard of that app till tonight.. and if it did install some stuff but didnt record it to dpkg ext...  i would have to do lots of research on how to remove all traces of it
[10:11] <khaos01> bazhang thanks because I heard that the minimum is at least the equal of the physical ram
[10:11] <bazhang> khaos01, thats a pretty old guideline
[10:12] <khaos01> ok bazhang thank you. I plan to install ubuntu in another laptop with 8gigs
[10:12] <khaos01> 1 gb swap is ok for 8gb ram?
[10:12] <l057c0d3r> khaos01, if u dont use hibernate then swap may not even be needed with that much ram
[10:12] <bazhang> wdonkey, trouble running draftsight? is that some non-ubuntu 3rd party app?
[10:12] <l057c0d3r> but 1gb should be fine
[10:12] <slaren> hello, i am having trouble making sound work over hdmi with an intel gm45 (ubuntu 13)
[10:12] <slaren> any tips ?
[10:12] <wdonkey> bazhang: of course its some non-ubuntu 3rd party app
[10:12] <wdonkey> but its a nice one
[10:13] <bazhang> wdonkey, why the of course
[10:13] <khaos01> thank you
[10:13] <wdonkey> i wouldnt have all that trouble if it was in the repo
[10:13] <ak5> hi guys, I have an ubuntu instance that gets an error at `sudo apt-get update` - anyone else have this? It outputs: Reading package lists... Error! And nothing else
[10:13] <l057c0d3r> wow.. i just noticed something....  after upgrading to 13.04 and gnome 3.8  and removing cario-dock..  my battery life is a lot better then it used to be
[10:14] <l057c0d3r> been on this computer 5 hours now... and it just now started to beep at 12% battery
[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:14] <l057c0d3r> ak5, so it does not tell u what the error was
[10:14] <ak5> l057c0d3r: no, neither do apt logs, nor the -V option
[10:14] <wdonkey> l057c0d3r: would it be the same just to run unity or a flat gnome gui ?
[10:15] <ak5> l057c0d3r: this guys has the same problem as I do apparantly (I tried what he tried) http://askubuntu.com/questions/259114/reading-package-lists-in-update-apt-get-ubuntu-12-04-vps
[10:15] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, not sure what your asking me :-p
[10:15] <l057c0d3r> i run ubuntu gnome
[10:16] <l057c0d3r> ak5 i see
[10:16] <ak5> l057c0d3r: any pointers?
[10:16] <wdonkey> what i meant is : did you need to remove cairo-dock or just running lets say unity would have done the same
[10:16] <l057c0d3r> i have also noticed that since i got rid of cairo-dock..  my ram usage is a lot better now..
[10:16] <l057c0d3r> used to be at 30% with a catch of 80% after a day
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> on this setup  three days in.. i got 18% program and 23 cache
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> much better.. i take it cairo-dock has a memory leak
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> ak5 umm....  well i might be able to find something
[10:17] <ak5> l057c0d3r: please do, I am stumped as is everyone else I talked to
[10:18] <ak5> l057c0d3r: you need any more info, just ask :)
[10:19] <wdonkey> how exactly do you completely remore cairo-dock !? i tried once but was still able to open a session in it
[10:20] <bazhang> wdonkey, via cli? purge? or was that the package manager
[10:20] <wdonkey> packagemanager
[10:21] <xocolatl> hello, I need help with 13.04 and sound through HDMI. I installed the mainline 3.9.0 kernel and HDMI is in the sound options list, but no sound comes out when I select it.  Ideas?
[10:24] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, intel audio chip ?
[10:24] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: I don't know but I'll gladly run any command for you
[10:24] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: it's a laptop, if that changes anything
[10:25] <bazhang> xocolatl, where was the kernel from? a PPA?
[10:25] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, i did a sudo apt-get remove --purge cairo-dock && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[10:25] <l057c0d3r> ak5, try this and see what happens sudo apt-get install -f
[10:25] <xocolatl> bazhang: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/
[10:25] <ak5> l057c0d3r: I have tried that, nothing happens :)
[10:25] <l057c0d3r> then a sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[10:26] <l057c0d3r> then a sudo apt-get update
[10:26] <wdonkey> thanks
[10:26] <ak5> ok trying again in that order
[10:27] <l057c0d3r> oh so u removed the lists already
[10:27] <l057c0d3r> u can also see what happens with a sudo apt-get check
[10:27] <l057c0d3r> ext
[10:27] <l057c0d3r> im guessing here btw
[10:27] <ak5> l057c0d3r: I am running $ sudo apt-get install -f && sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update just to be sure
[10:28] <ak5> l057c0d3r: I also just created this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140944&p=12627962#post12627962
[10:28] <jony> where are located the installed applications? I want to point to transmission
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> jony  /usr/bin/
[10:29] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, there's a bug with intel audio and hdmi out , I'm looking for the link ...run aplay -l  in the console and look at the libe beside Card 0
[10:30] <BluesKaj> libe=line
[10:30] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: this link? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1169761
[10:30] <jony> MonkeyDust, ty
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> ak5,  anything ?
[10:30] <ak5> l057c0d3r: no, same issue :(
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> odd.. how u break apt that bad
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[10:31] <l057c0d3r> does synaptic reload with out an issue
[10:31] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: yes, it's intel
[10:32] <jiltdil> which raid to use to avoid making multiple copies of same data
[10:32] <bekks> jiltdil: Everything besides RAID1.
[10:33] <ak5> l057c0d3r: thats the thing this is a relatively new ubuntu install
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> i'm trying to think
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> i know there is aptitude..
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> but i dont know where to go with that for u
[10:34] <ak5> I didn't touch apt besides sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> and i was thinking about dkpg reocnfigure of atp
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. but im tired right now..
[10:34] <ak5> l057c0d3r: I tried that as well
[10:34] <ak5> :(
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> ak5  try reinsitalling apt
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> thats what i was getting ready to say next :-p
[10:35] <ak5> how do I do this... without apt?
[10:35] <l057c0d3r> well try apt-get reinstall apt
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> ak5  with aptitude
[10:35] <l057c0d3r> or aptitude reinstall apt
[10:35] <lxgr> does anybody else have weird stuttering issues with a thinkpad x230 and 13.04? every few seconds, there seem to be "microfreezes" of up to half a second where the cursor and text input freezes. might also be gpu output - no way to tell...
[10:36] <ak5> $ aptitude install apt
[10:36] <ak5> [  0%] Reading package listsSegmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:36] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, your link to the bug is correct , however there's no  link there to the available patch that can be downloaded and installed . I have to reboot anyway , so I'll look for the patch/link on my other install , if you can wait afew mins
[10:37] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: sure, I'll hang out
[10:37] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, ok , nniab
[10:38] <l057c0d3r> ak5 do just aptitude
[10:38] <l057c0d3r> and look in there for apt
[10:38] <l057c0d3r> and see if there is an option to reinstall maybe
[10:38] <l057c0d3r> sigh...
[10:38] <ak5> $ aptitude
[10:38] <ak5> Ouch!  Got SIGSEGV, dying..
[10:38] <ak5> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:38] <wdonkey> while im here i've got a question, on my previous laptop, a T61p runing ubuntu, the CPU kept on throttling
[10:38] <wdonkey> is that bad for heat ??
[10:39] <l057c0d3r> i hate to say it.. but after all this work it might just be easier to backup personal stuff and reinstall
[10:39] <l057c0d3r> wdonkey, if its throttling its probably overheating
[10:39] <wdonkey> i felt that having the cpu running full blast kept the temp lower than them going waaaa woooo waaaa wooo waaaa woo everytime
[10:39] <l057c0d3r> u could install lm-sensors.... and type sensors to see the heat
[10:39] <ak5> l057c0d3r: ouch
[10:39] <l057c0d3r> err the temp
[10:39] <ak5> that means taking my website offline, argh
[10:39] <wdonkey> the laptop died
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> oh wow  sorry ak5
[10:40] <wdonkey> but i was wondering if its a bad sign
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> how long have you had this install
[10:40] <ak5> l057c0d3r: 1 week or so
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> yeah anytime the cpu starts to throttle its not good
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> ak5 thats odod
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> blah odd
[10:40] <ak5> I can do it, its just really annoying and the reason I chose ubuntu over my favorite distro was the non-rolling release cycle :(
[10:41] <captine> hi all.  I am really struggling with Pulse Audio on 13.04.  using pavucontrol i can see my yetti mic, however, using the default ubuntu sound controller, i can only see the mic as an audio output and not as an input?
[10:41] <moppers> what happened to nautilus?
[10:41] <ak5> so - it is supposed to break less often ^_^
[10:41] <wdonkey> moppers: its called progress
[10:41] <moppers> it's slower now because it keeps searching, and I can't find tree view
[10:41] <wdonkey> moppers: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/get-nautilus-34-features-back-in-ubuntu.html
[10:42] <BluesKaj> ok , xocolatl , choose the deb that's right for your machine, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages
[10:42] <moppers> wdonkey, thanks, is there no other way to revert the old one?
[10:43] <wdonkey> im clueless to say the truth
[10:43] <wdonkey> you just happened to have a question i just googled for myself because im a fond user of the F3 button in nautilus
[10:43] <l057c0d3r> ak5, can you remember what you were doing before it broke
[10:43] <l057c0d3r> because that is an odd issue u are having.. where u dont even get an error message
[10:43] <moppers> so raring finally fixes task switching - the only remaining problem i had with unity - then they break the file manager. haha!
[10:44] <l057c0d3r> i've never seen it before..
[10:44] <l057c0d3r> seems tonight i have seen a lot of issues that in my years of using ubuntu i have never seen before
[10:44] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: I guess the one ending in -raring?
[10:44] <froginvasion> hi there. cpufreq-utils states my cores are running at a max of 2.4, which should be the regular CPU freq (with turbo boost to 3.3 I believe). How can I enable it to run at its max freq of 3.3 on demand?
[10:44] <ak5> l057c0d3r: well this other guy on askubuntu had it too
[10:45] <moppers> i might go back to 12.04 and use a different desktop. i can use unity with scroll switching but not at the cost of the file manager
[10:45] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: seems to be i386 but I guess that's okay
[10:45] <Dr_willis> cant say i really notced the features they took out of nautilus being missing. ;)
[10:45] <ak5> and - I shit you not - I was just managing the website - no package installs or any other interaction with apt after I installed mysqlclientutils
[10:45] <moppers> hrm maybe thunarr could be used wit raring?
[10:45] <Ben64> froginvasion: it should handle that automatically
[10:46] <ak5> which worked fine yesterday
[10:46] <ak5> :/
[10:46] <Dr_willis> !info rox-filer
[10:46] <wdonkey> moppers: just for my records, that link i sent you, wouldnt it be easier to just follow the steps than to revert back to an old version ?
[10:46] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, wait a sec . think that's the wrong link , sorry
[10:46] <moppers> Dr_willis, well i used split pane, and tree view to move files around
[10:47] <froginvasion> Ben64: so would I think too, but I have no way of knowing sure, especially since I get this output stating 2.3 as max -> http://pastebin.com/Ujvxf8jA
[10:47] <Dr_willis> moppers,  i use to use split pain. ;) but  theres other file managers out that are dual pane by default i tend to use these days.
[10:47] <moppers> wdonkey, well i can't find his source code so it would be probably easer to change file manager i guess. maybe pcman or thunarr or something
[10:47] <ak5> or - dare I say it? - mc
[10:47] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. i just use tabs
[10:48] <l057c0d3r> to move files around
[10:48] <l057c0d3r> open two tabs
[10:48] <l057c0d3r> hilight the ones i want to move in one..  copy them in the other
[10:48] <moppers> thunarr doesn't connect to network shares thogh
[10:48] <Dr_willis> theres that ppa for a tweaked nautilus that was mentioned.
[10:48] <l057c0d3r> that and there is the move to feature
[10:49] <Dr_willis> I do belive you can drag/drop from  one file manager window to the tab of the 2nd file manager..  if using tabs
[10:49] <wdonkey> that nautilus tweak works awesome
[10:49] <l057c0d3r> ak5, im really sorry for your problems....  from the searching i've done.. its very rare..  and im not sure what caused it.. but it looks bad
[10:49] <ak5> is there any way to see what packages were explicitly installed if I don't have access to apt/aptitude
[10:49] <moppers> nemo looks OK
[10:49] <l057c0d3r> ak5 dpkg -l | sell
[10:49] <l057c0d3r> will show u all installed packages
[10:49] <wdonkey> what a beautifull day outside
[10:50] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: yeah, it doesn't like that package. "Error!  The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which does not match this kernel/arch.  This indicates that it should not be built."
[10:50] <l057c0d3r> well  more like installed apps..
[10:50] <moppers> oh it supports dropbox too
[10:50] <ak5> l057c0d3r: what is this "sell" you are piping to?
[10:50] <l057c0d3r> nemo  isnt that the nat fork in mint?
[10:50] <l057c0d3r> ahh sorry
[10:50] <guno> how to mount nfs directory
[10:50] <l057c0d3r> its early and im tired
[10:51] <l057c0d3r> dpkg -l | less
[10:51] <ak5> got it
[10:51] <moppers> l057c0d3r, yes it is
[10:51] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, yeah I mistakenly saved the wrong link , sorry
[10:51] <ak5> l057c0d3r: do you know where I can find the explicite installs?
[10:51] <xocolatl> np
[10:51] <l057c0d3r> like what you installed.
[10:51] <guno> how to mount nfs directory?
[10:51] <l057c0d3r> not what was already installed
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> guno  you have to export it on the remote machine
[10:52] <wdonkey> i still didnt get rid of cairodock
[10:53] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[10:53] <guno> MonkeyDust: it is exported, i just want to know what command i have to use on my machine to mount that directory.
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> u did a sudo apt-get remove --purge cairo-dock && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> and cairo-dock is still there?
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> hmm check into deborphan
[10:53] <wdonkey> ill try it again
[10:53] <wdonkey> deborphan !?
[10:54] <wdonkey> i wish i was better than i am
[10:54] <wdonkey> will runing a fileserver make me more skillfull ?
[10:54] <Dr_willis> l057c0d3r,  still where?
[10:54] <gry> what linux player has a thumbnail view of the playlist? vlc doesn't appear to be, thanks
[10:54] <l057c0d3r> might be easier to install gtkorphan
[10:54] <l057c0d3r> its a graphical front end..
[10:54] <l057c0d3r> but u can install just deborphan
[10:54] <moppers> ok all, thanks for help with Nautilus: I will swap out the file manager with whatever does what 3.4 did and also supports plugins like dropbox and ubuntuone.
[10:54] <bekks> wdonkey: Depends on you definition of "running a webserver". Most likely, that just means "install samba/nfs/ftp/whatever and being done".
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> then do a sudo deborphan | less...  look that list over to make sure there is nothing in it you need to keep
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> guno  try mount -t nfs           -t  means type
[10:55] <bekks> wdonkey: fileserver, not webserver.
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> then do a deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get remove -u --purge
[10:55] <moppers> which probably means i end up back on 12.04 LTS :)
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> that is if there is nothing u want to keep in the list
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> gtkorphan is the front end for it.. and lets you select what to remove from the list of orphaned packages
[10:56] <guno> MonkeyDust: thanks
[10:57] <l057c0d3r> moppers, nemo is a good one if u dotn like where natty went
[10:57] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: google is not being my friend :(
[10:57] <DJones> gry: Possibly clementine may have a thumbnail view, I'm not certain though
[10:57] <moppers> l057c0d3r, does it work with ubuntuone?
[10:58] <l057c0d3r> ?
[10:58] <l057c0d3r> u tell ubuntu one what folders to sync it syncs them
[10:58] <l057c0d3r> i didn't think the file manager mattered in that state
[10:58] <moppers> l057c0d3r, in nautlius 3.4: right click -> ubuntoone submenu is there
[10:59] <l057c0d3r> oh..  guess i never noticed
[10:59] <moppers> well i suppose i can move my stuff from Uone to dropbox....
[10:59] <l057c0d3r> why
[10:59] <l057c0d3r> well if u want.. but u can manage it from the ubuntuone app as well
[10:59] <moppers> because nemo has a dropnox clinet
[10:59] <Dr_willis> dropbox folder in home.. or ubuntu one folder in home....
[10:59] <moppers> *plugi
[10:59] <moppers> *plugin, sorry
[10:59] <Dr_willis> why does it really need a plugin?
[10:59] <captine> if anyone has experience with USB mic's, i have added http://askubuntu.com/questions/287185/usb-audio-13-04-yetti-blue-pro-microphone .  Off to dinner
[11:00] <moppers> Dr_willis, so i don't have to keep copying things into Ubuntuone folder and having them sync to devices with SSDs that would fill up
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> mopper
[11:01] <BluesKaj> xocolatl,, this is the patch you need , oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms_0.201304261252~raring1_all.deb
[11:01] <moppers> or get synced to places i dont want them synced: i just sometimes need to r-click, share something without syncing it
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> i have ubuntuone set to sync my pictuers folder and my documents folder to there website
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> set in the ubuntuone client..
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Ubunt One can sync folders outside of the U1 folder.
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> and it uploads them automatically to the server
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> i also have a ubuntuone client on my phone
[11:02] <Dr_willis> not sure if Dropbox on ubuntu can do that.  i tend to just keep my wallpapers in my U1 dir.
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> that uploads my pictuers folder on my phone and sync it with my pc....
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> so when i take a picture on my phone..
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> within seconds its on my computer in the pictures-mobile folder
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> no matter where me and my phone are.... giving i still have 3g access or wireless access with the phone
[11:03] <Dr_willis> every cloud thing wants to sync with my pics i take. ;0 U1. Google+.  dropbox. facebook.   :)
[11:03] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: I tried installing that but it gives me this: http://pastebin.com/BH8LFTe3
[11:03] <bekks> Dr_willis: There's no sync plugin for my Canon 650D ;)
[11:03] <moppers> I am not sure I explained the situation properly.
[11:04] <Dr_willis> I dont even look at Canon Products any more.
[11:04] <l057c0d3r> heh
[11:04] <bekks> Dr_willis: As long as it doesnt come to printers, Canon's pretty decent.
[11:04] <jony> in Ubuntu 13.04 krusader won't enter in archives... it tells me file: "Error: krarc is disabled." please help
[11:04] <steveccc> does anyone know any free linux data recovery software that will try its best to read from a dying hard disk and give info on how much of the disk is readable and try to recover files?
[11:04] <moppers> i have a canon eos, it's a good camera
[11:05] <wdonkey> steveccc: check out the forensic apps, it can be run from a live disk and its pretty neat
[11:05] <moppers> very cheap DSLR and the picture quality is good
[11:07] <wdonkey> the DSLR has a lot less to do with picture quality than the lens
[11:08] <jiltdil> dmesg used to view information about installed hardware>
[11:08] <jiltdil> ?
[11:08] <hammommah> I currently have 12.10 installed and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work? 13.04 has been released yeah?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> hammommah, wrong command
[11:09] <moppers> hammommah, that s not what dist-upgade does. use do-release-upgrade
[11:09] <hammommah> bahahah tyvm
[11:09] <moppers> hammommah, just check you don't need nautilus tree view first!
[11:09] <jiltdil> dmesg used to view information about installed hardware?
[11:10] <moppers> jiltdil, what information do you need?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> xocolatl, yes , I'm still searching for the 64 bit oem version , it's eluding me
[11:10] <xocolatl> BluesKaj: same here.  thanks for helping me; I'll let you know if I find it
[11:10] <hammommah> i'm using lubuntu, that wont change to ubuntu will it?
[11:10] <jiltdil> moppers,  No, i just want to ask is dmesg shows information about installed hardware?
[11:10] <l057c0d3r> no
[11:11] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, it will still be lubuntu
[11:11] <hammommah> lovely
[11:11] <steveccc> wdonkey: seems to be loads of random apps that appear for a search on that - do you have a link please
[11:11] <wdonkey> yup hold on
[11:12] <l057c0d3r> i myself just switched over to ubuntu gnome.. since they are there own now..  no longer do i have to install a minimal install and run a gnome-shell session :-p  we have our own distribution
[11:13] <moppers> jiltdil, it shows messages from the kernel, most of those will be hardware related
[11:13] <wdonkey> steveccc: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[11:13] <wdonkey> that link pretty much sums it up
[11:14] <hammommah> l057c0d3r, i just lovely how fast and simple it is, I dont wont eye candy, distraction from studies really
[11:14] <jony> in Ubuntu 13.04 krusader won't enter in archives... it tells me file: "Error: krarc is disabled." please help
[11:14] <wdonkey> steveccc: i've had great luck with testdisk and foremost
[11:14] <moppers> i don't like the title of that. a forensics guy willprobably hve to install additional hardware to prevent data being accidentally written to the disk
[11:15] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, yeah.. i used it on my old system
[11:15] <iraklis> hi all, i am developing on ubuntu linux and i am having trouble with javafx. When i try to select something from the menu some timnes it works ans some other not. i try the same thing in windows and it works fine. do you have any idea why it is happening?
[11:15] <hammommah> l057c0d3r, gnome is nice tho
[11:15] <moppers> disk write blocker, or something
[11:15] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, yeah.. after themeing it..  tweaking it.. and tons of customizations.. yean its great >-p
[11:16] <moppers> iraklis, have you tried stackoverflow? that's a very toolchain specific question, they are good at that
[11:16] <wdonkey> moppers: its a pretty straight forward process, if im an idiot, you could say the apps are idiotproof
[11:16] <BlazingSun> hi guys
[11:16] <hammommah> l057c0d3r, soooo many customizations and tweaks available for gnome
[11:16] <BlazingSun> i just install ubuntu
[11:17] <BlazingSun> how do you make ubuntu secure and fast
[11:17] <BlazingSun> i am using it on asus eepc
[11:17] <wdonkey> its already secure and fast
[11:17] <moppers> wdonkey, what, javafx?
[11:17] <Dr_willis> BlazingSun,  theres no magic tricks.. its allready decently secure.
[11:18] <wdonkey> moppers: testdisk is for sure
[11:18] <l057c0d3r> hammommah, heh most the customizations i use are built by me...  when i fix them copletely im going to upload them for the plublic
[11:18] <l057c0d3r> blah public
[11:18] <iraklis> moppers: i google it nut no luck.. thats why i tryid irc
[11:18] <elkng> is it possible to use ssh with login and password in one command without waiting for a password prompt ? like: "ssh -l loginname 10.0.0.1" but also use password as a parameter
[11:18] <moppers> wdonkey, oh that, i was saying that forensics needs more rigor, so that article was misleadingly titled
[11:19] <wdonkey> moppers:  i see
[11:19] <wdonkey> yeah they do
[11:19] <moppers> iraklis, try stackoverflow.com
[11:19] <Pumpkin-_> elkng: not with a password, but you almost certainly want to explore using key based authentication
[11:19] <wdonkey> theres even counter forensik stuff available
[11:19] <hammommah> l057c0d3r, very nice
[11:20] <corehook> Guys i have a server with a hard disk of 240 GB.
[11:20] <corehook> Now I install ubuntu system, please advise how to partition a disk that-be to avoid future problems with safety and performance!
[11:20] <BlazingSun> but it so laggy drwilly
[11:21] <BlazingSun> how do you lower down the graphic
[11:21] <BlazingSun> it moved so slow
[11:21] <corehook> this machine will node that stay after pgpool server for cluster
[11:21] <cfhowlett> corehook, set a swap partition and a dedicated /home
[11:21] <wdonkey> BlazingSun: you must not have the proper drivers for your GPU
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> corehook: what is the server doing?
[11:21] <corehook> node in postgre sql cluster
[11:21] <corehook> that stay after pgpool server
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> corehook: what folder will be used most?
[11:22] <l057c0d3r> BlazingSun, might need to install binary drivers for your system's video card to help
[11:22] <corehook> i think /data ? (for postgresql )
[11:22] <l057c0d3r> that or your pc may be to old to run unity well
[11:22] <l057c0d3r> there are also kbuntu xbutnu and lubuntu
[11:22] <corehook> so is recomended create dedicated partition for postgresql data ?
[11:22] <l057c0d3r> each slimmer and faster pregressively in that order
[11:22] <iraklis> moppers: no luck.. it has something to do i think with the mouse stuff.. because it so weird.. i cant select.. try again and i can.. its not only menu its everything dropdown select list select... thank a lot for your time
[11:22] <yashh> how can i find the "fun" chat room?
[11:23] <moppers> iraklis, you're supposed to ask it on stackoverflow, not google it
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !ot|yashh,
[11:23] <DJones> !alis | yashh
[11:23] <BlazingSun> how to guys ?
[11:23] <BlazingSun> is there any local community for ubuntu
[11:23] <BlazingSun> i am from china
[11:23] <yashh> ok guys
[11:23] <corehook> i am from kazakhstan
[11:23] <corehook> hi
[11:23] <DJones> !cn | BlazingSun
[11:23] <l057c0d3r> BlazingSun, what video card u using
[11:23] <corehook> so guys i create 1 partition for /, 1 for /home and 1 swap plus one for postgresql data
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> !video | BlazingSun
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> blah not what i was looking for
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> !videocard | BlazingSun
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> blah
[11:24] <wdonkey> lol
[11:24] <cfhowlett> BlazingSun, I'm in Beijing.  Beijing Linux User Group ... and UbuntuKylin  #ubuntukylin-devel
[11:24] <corehook> BlazingSun
[11:24] <corehook> mephedrone is closed in china ?
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | BlazingSun
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  first try it with ubottu 's pm screen
[11:25] <corehook> блядь заебали хоть бы один ответил
[11:25] <l057c0d3r> yeah that would be a good idea
[11:25] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !kz|corehook,
[11:25]  * corehook away
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:26] <corehook> ok
[11:26] <yashh> does zorin os require wine to open .exe files???
[11:26] <cfhowlett> corehook, kazakhstan ... speaks russian?
[11:26] <corehook> yep
[11:26] <corehook> russian and kazakh
[11:26] <cfhowlett> yashh, zorin not supported here
[11:27] <corehook> and broken english
[11:27] <corehook> :D
[11:27]  * corehook away
[11:27] <wdonkey> corehook: are these two language similar ??
[11:27] <cfhowlett> corehook, TIL something.
[11:27] <Dr_willis> !wine
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> yashh  type /j #zorinos
[11:27] <corehook> котак жеме
[11:27] <yashh> how to open .exe files other than using wine ??
[11:27] <wdonkey> yashh: use windows
[11:27] <moppers> yay! my *buntu ISO seeds ratio > 1.0 today
[11:27] <Dr_willis> yashh,  windows in  virtualbox...
[11:28] <yashh> in ubuntu
[11:28] <l057c0d3r> yashh, well if they are .net there is also mono...
[11:28] <iKernel> Say I want to use UNetbootin to create a bootable drive but my laptop has no working usb ports - can I use it or something else to create a bootable SD card or is that down to hardware compatibility at the BIOS level?
[11:28] <l057c0d3r> and there is crossover.. but its built off wine
[11:28] <tokern3> i decided to install and launch cloudsim. but it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622298/
[11:28] <moppers> yashh, do you mean run them or open them?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> yashh, virtual box with windows perhaps
[11:28] <l057c0d3r> but myself.. i find wine to work great for most things
[11:28] <Dr_willis> iKernel,  you cn use it on sd. or you can 'dd' the iso to the sd.
[11:28] <yashh> run em
[11:28] <Dr_willis> yashh,  so.. why not use wine?
[11:29] <iKernel> Dr_willis, I'm concerned that my laptop probably isn't advanced enough to boot from SD but only I can determine that
[11:29] <ajith> Unable to update the OS 10.04
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> yashh: crossoveroffice, cedega, based on wine, not free
[11:29] <Dr_willis> iKernel,  some can some cant.. hard to tell.
[11:29] <cfhowlett> ajith, why?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> yashh: what are you trying to achieve?
[11:29]  * wdonkey away
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !details|ajith,
[11:29] <iKernel> Dr_willis, I'll check the BIOS configuration program and report back
[11:29] <ajith> i will give you the error
[11:29] <Dr_willis> iKernel,  my netbook can boot from sd. ;)
[11:30] <yashh> i wanna play windows games without using wine, because it is showing some error
[11:30] <ajith> I am getting pgg error
[11:30] <iKernel> Dr_willis, perhaps you paid a decent amount of money, this laptop is a hand me up :)
[11:30] <ajith> gpg* error
[11:30] <iKernel> Dr_willis, oh netbook. jeez
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> yashh, the term will show errors
[11:30] <Dr_willis> yashh,  some windows apps work in wine.. some dont.. check the wine app database...
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ajith: can you pastebin the error please
[11:30] <moppers> yashh, you can try pre-configured wine setups like playonlinux.com
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> but most the time the games still run fine
[11:30] <ajith> okay wait
[11:30] <iKernel> Alright well bbs
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> that and steam does have a native linux client now
[11:30] <moppers> yashh, which game is it btw?
[11:30] <yashh> oh ok
[11:31] <yashh> quake 3
[11:31] <l057c0d3r> what game exactly are you trying to play.. i play skyrim...  wow.. everquest II diablo III from wine with no issues
[11:31] <Dr_willis> Err. theres  quake3 native clients for linux.. i recall.
[11:31] <moppers> yashh, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=532
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> yashh: did you check the wine appdb for compatibility?
[11:31] <moppers> yashh, quake3 is supposed to work :)
[11:31] <l057c0d3r> well after following some of the guides on the winehq website
[11:31] <tokern3> i decided to install and launch cloudsim. but it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622298/
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> yashh: isn't there a quake3 open source engine that reads the wad files you have
[11:31] <yashh> i know guys i used to play
[11:32] <yashh> now it shows open gl  error
[11:32] <Dr_willis> theres that web-browser based quake3 also i thought..
[11:32] <l057c0d3r> and yeah like Dr_willis said.. there is a native quake3 client on linux.. in fact a lot of shooter games on nix are based of the quake3 eng
[11:32] <moppers> yashh, are you sure that's not drivers?
[11:32] <Dr_willis> night all
[11:32] <l057c0d3r> yashh, might also be helpfull to install binary drivers for your video card if you are a gamer
[11:32] <l057c0d3r> night Dr_willis .. im about to do that myself
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> yashh: do other 3D games run ok?
[11:33] <yashh> not anymore
[11:33] <iKernel> Well Dr_willis decided to leave.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> yashh: then you won't get it running in Wine, as you have no 3D accel
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> yashh: you need the 3D capability to get 3D games
[11:34] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | yashh
[11:34] <l057c0d3r> might help some
[11:35] <yashh> thanks guys
[11:35] <yashh> guys, the games are not working after running this command "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[11:36] <ajith> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>  W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dist
[11:36] <steveccc> can anyone with 13.04 do me a favour - check if the package foremost is listed in the package installer
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> yashh: what video chip do you use?
[11:37]  * l057c0d3r facepalms
[11:37] <ajith> this is the error I am gettinng after fresh installation od ubuntu OS 10.04
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> yashh: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display     do you also see an Intel GPU?
[11:37] <BlazingSun> i am new to perl i cant even code
[11:37] <BlazingSun> what is this script do guys
[11:37] <BlazingSun> http://0x71.org/2013/05/01/0x71-ubuntu-13-04-desktop-hardening-script/
[11:37] <yashh> guys im not too technical, english please
[11:37] <BlazingSun> i run it and tail -f /var/log/kernel.log it show alot of log
[11:37] <ajith> hello
[11:38] <ajith> did anyone get that dude
[11:38] <l057c0d3r> BlazingSun, it seems that it adds stuff to the firewall
[11:38] <l057c0d3r> but i didn'tm actually look over the actual script. just what they were talking about
[11:38] <l057c0d3r> if you are new..  best bet for security is a fresh install and something like gufw
[11:39] <l057c0d3r> gufw is a front end for the ip-tables firewall built in
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> yashh: its copying and pasting to the terminal, you can copy and paste text...right?
[11:39] <l057c0d3r> other then that.. u are rather safe..  with the tables set up and running.. your net is mostly protected.. and there are no viruses u have to worry about really
[11:39] <yashh> i did it
[11:39] <samskiter> hi. i'me using 13.04 and im having issues with ntfs-3g. ive just been on ##linux and have been advised to change FUSE to a distro specific version (apparently FUSE is deprecated). can anyone advise.
[11:39] <BlazingSun> how l0
[11:39] <BlazingSun> is that secure ubuntu by default
[11:39] <BlazingSun> how to check any open port
[11:40] <BlazingSun> i am using eepc i dont know what graphic card
[11:40] <ajith> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>  W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dist
[11:40] <l057c0d3r> blazing do a sudo apt-get install gufw...
[11:40] <l057c0d3r> run it..
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> yashh: ok, do you only see an nvidia gpu, or is there an intel one as well?
[11:40] <BlazingSun> is that
[11:40] <l057c0d3r> its a app to manage the firewall
[11:40] <ajith> can any one knows  about this error
[11:40] <yashh> 1 sec
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> ajith: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[11:40] <BlazingSun> that i am using for. i didnt see it from the logo of this eepc. how to check what graphic card do i have ?
[11:41] <l057c0d3r> BlazingSun, in thought u were talking about security..
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> yashh: if you see only nvidia and not intel then that's al we need to know :)
[11:41] <l057c0d3r> i beleive the graphics stuff is being focused towards yashh
[11:41] <BlazingSun> yes what this script do l0 http://0x71.org/2013/05/01/0x71-ubuntu-13-04-desktop-hardening-script/
[11:41] <tokern3> i decided to install and launch cloudsim. but it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622298/
[11:41] <BlazingSun> do u mean to explain is it secure
[11:42] <yashh> its intel
[11:42] <l057c0d3r> it adds a bunch of stuff to the ip-tables.. which is the firewall
[11:42] <BlazingSun> i want to install msn
[11:42] <cfhowlett> BlazingSun, where did you get it?  why don't you ask the script author.
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> yashh: not nvidia?
[11:42] <l057c0d3r> blazingsun..  use a client like pidgin or empathy..  they can connect to msn
[11:42] <BlazingSun> i show it from ubuntu-cn skraito post it
[11:42] <yashh> nope
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> BlazingSun  try aMSN or Skype
[11:42] <cfhowlett> BlazingSun, so ask skraito
[11:42] <BlazingSun> skype ?
[11:42] <l057c0d3r> or them :-p
[11:42] <BlazingSun> how ?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> yashh: then why did you install nvidia-current if you have no nvidia graphics card?
[11:42] <BlazingSun> he is not there
[11:42] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:42] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install skype
[11:43] <cfhowlett> BlazingSun, leave him a message.
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> BlazingSun  skype from the website, it creates a ubuntu-deb, install that and then: apt-get autoremove     <-- dirty workaround, but works!
[11:43] <nyuszika7h> hi, is there a way to completely disable the boot splash and messages? I get more messages with "loglevel=0" than with "quiet".
[11:43] <samskiter> hi. i'me using 13.04 and im having issues with ntfs-3g. ive just been on ##linux and have been advised to change FUSE to a distro specific version (apparently FUSE is deprecated). can anyone advise?
[11:43] <yashh> can this be undone?
[11:43] <onr> BlazingSun: i like pidgin
[11:43] <l057c0d3r> onr, i like empathy
[11:44] <l057c0d3r> because of how its built into gnome-shell
[11:44] <nyuszika7h> yashh: which driver were you using before installing nvidia-current?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> yashh: yes, but why did you install it in the first place?
[11:44] <nyuszika7h> oh, you installed nvidia-current on Intel?
[11:44] <l057c0d3r> nyuszika7h, most likely the open source what ever came when he installed it]
[11:44] <BlazingSun> monkeydust you mean apt-get install skype ?
[11:44] <onr> l057c0d3r: heh, that's the reason i don't like empathy
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> BlazingSun: no, it's not in the repos
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> onr: i like pidgin too :)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> nyuszika7h: it is
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> it is?
[11:45] <yashh> to play counter strike, they showed a command, so i did it
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> not for me
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, sigh because i linked him to video card drivers.....  because he was talking about games and not workign right..'
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> nyuszika7h: you just need to enable the partner repo
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> oh, partner
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> but i didnt think he would install with out reading first
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> yashh: you need to think a little before running random commands
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> oh good.. it was not my fault :-)
[11:46] <yashh> you're right
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> yashh: you should have thought "wait...i only have an intel gpu, so I don't need an nvidia driver"
[11:46]  * cfhowlett ... as RR said "Trust - but verify."
[11:46] <l057c0d3r> and yashh dont run every command you see..  without trying to understand what it does.. dont want to run a fork bomb by mystake
[11:46] <l057c0d3r> or wipe half your files out
[11:46] <l057c0d3r> because someone gave u a command
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> BlazingSun  no, download skype from the website
[11:46] <yashh> guys im new to ubuntu
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> yashh: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-current; sudo ap-get --purge autoremove
[11:47] <yashh> and it will remove it?
[11:47] <l057c0d3r> monkeydust.. why is there something wrong with the one in the repository
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yashh: its nothing to do with Ubuntu, its about knowing what is in the system, you would get this in Windows
[11:47] <l057c0d3r> because its the one i have
[11:47] <ajith> <Action Parnsnip> error  once again
[11:47] <ajith> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>  W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dist
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yashh: you wouldn't go to the nvidia site in Windows and install the nvidia driver in Windows would you
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  i didnt even find one there, even with the partner repo activated
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yashh: ?
[11:47] <nyuszika7h> !pastebin | ajith
[11:47] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[11:47] <ajith> same error after getting that key
[11:47] <yashh> dude i never go to sites to install any game
[11:48] <yashh> in windows
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> yashh: its not a game, its a graphic driver
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> yashh: its OS independant
[11:48] <l057c0d3r> MonkeyDust, its in my synaptics.. and this is a fresh install
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> yashh: so 'being new to Ubuntu' isn't a factor here
[11:48] <nyuszika7h> yashh: if you have an Intel GPU, the driver is already in the kernel itself, I think
[11:48] <l057c0d3r> no ppa's yet.. besides gnome3-team
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  nice, but that's how I did it
[11:48] <yashh> ok i shoulda have thought. okay?
[11:48] <nyuszika7h> how can people like GNOME 3?
[11:49] <l057c0d3r> nyuszika7h, u havent seen my custom gnome-shell obviously
[11:49] <l057c0d3r> :-p;
[11:49] <ajith> Action Parnship do u have any info
[11:49] <nyuszika7h> l057c0d3r: screenshot?
[11:49] <l057c0d3r> k one sec
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> ajith: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> yashh: no thats the point, you should think :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> yashh: remove the nvidia-current package and reboot
[11:50] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, sigh...  its ok..  peeps make mistakes....  he learned..  i hope
[11:51] <yashh> ok i ll reboot now
[11:51] <l057c0d3r> nyuszika7h, http://i43.tinypic.com/3501543.png
[11:51] <yashh> thanks action,
[11:51] <nyuszika7h> l057c0d3r: nice
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> computer maintenance is completely automated, now what should I do with the rest of my life?
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> MonkeyDust, use it :-p
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> watch netflix
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> play champions of regnark
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> team fortress 2 maybe :-p
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: isnt TF2 in steam?
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> keep helping people in here like you love to do
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> yeah its in steam
[11:52] <bmxscott1993> guy i need help with this it for changing my jack input and out up but the update done some think to it so it do not work the terminal command and err is on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622367/
[11:52] <l057c0d3r> and it runs great and its free :-p
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: so does Urban Terror :)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: just no steam :)
[11:53] <l057c0d3r> yeah that one is fun too
[11:53] <khaos_> hi i want to ask if in 12.10 the software update menu in the poweroff menu is removed
[11:54] <moppers> speaking of nvidia and drivers i upgraded one of my boxes to the 3.9 kernel and i cant get any of the nividia drivers to work, ah well ... sometimes i wonder why i bother ... machine isn't noticably quicker with 3.9 :)
[11:54] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, ?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: wassup? I cannot possibly reply to punctuation....
[11:56] <bmxscott1993> i need help with this it for changing my jack input and out up but the update done some think to it so it do not work the terminal command and err is on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622367/
[11:56] <l057c0d3r> u said just no steam..  any reason why
[11:56] <Lord_Daedra> No inet connection after I break upgrade to 13.04 - waiting for network configuration, another 60s waiting and not connected at the end... My /etc/network/interfaces looks ok
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !patience|bmxscott1993,
[11:57] <bmxscott1993> i have but people do not no on them
[11:57] <bmxscott1993> i try what they say still not work
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: because Urban Terror is not in the steam client
[11:58] <khaos_> hi i want to ask if in 12.10 the software update menu in the poweroff menu is removed
[11:58] <lifebird64> cornfused here. My mdadm raid1 array had /dev/sdc /dev/sdd in it. somewhere along the way, /dev/sdd mutated into /dev/sde and there's no longer any /dev/sdd device. :S
[11:58] <Lord_Daedra> Do you have any ideas why network configuration may not work?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> khaos_: i know its in dash, but I use neither
[11:58] <l057c0d3r> oh i see
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Daedra: wrong gateway, wrong subnet mask, IP outside of the subnet of your LAN
[11:59] <l057c0d3r> well.. im going to bed... night all
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Daedra: bad MTU
[11:59] <khaos_> ActionParsnip, hmm i think that in 12.04 was in right side in the poweroff menu. am i wrong? :P it was quick accessible
[11:59] <Lord_Daedra> It all were correct
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> khaos_: no idea, I just use:  sudo fullupgrade   in guake then hide it, much faster
[11:59] <khaos_> hehe ok
[12:00] <khaos_> one last question
[12:00] <khaos_> Is it safe to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 in a laptop with uefi enabled? it will destroy boot manager?
[12:00] <bmxscott1993> basally it to Chang the jack to out or in for any computer or laptop but it stop working cus of the update it there another thing like it or sommelier this is the website of what i mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/225017/how-do-i-change-which-audio-jacks-are-used-for-input-and-output
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !uefi|khaos_,
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> khaos_: not sure myself, I never upgrade (i always clean install) and I dont use uefi
[12:01] <Lord_Daedra> I lost connection when I upgraded ubuntu and chrooted to continue upgrade with dpkg configure -a and install - f but at the end lost Internet connection
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Daedra: can you ping your router's internal IP?
[12:01] <Lord_Daedra> It all works
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Daedra: then what is the issue if it ALL works?
[12:02] <ajith> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   language-pack-bn: Depends: language-pack-bn-base (>= 1:10.04+20110931) but it is not installed   language-pack-gnome-xh: Depends: language-pack-gnome-xh-base (>= 1:10.04+20110931) but it is not installed   ubiquity: Depends: ubiquity-frontend-2.2.27             Recommends: dmraid but it is not installed
[12:02] <ajith> this is the error after that script mr.Actionparnship
[12:02] <BluesKaj> I wonder what happened to the 64 bit builds for the hdmi/intel audio patch that was published earlier this week , it. seems to have disappeared ..this is the 32 bit  url : https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages
[12:03] <Lord_Daedra> I'm sure about all setting in conf is correct but I don't know why I can't ssh to my server and go to Internet from chroot
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ajith: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Daedra: ok, can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[12:03] <Lord_Daedra> I tried restart networking but he says, upstart not started
[12:03] <ajith> lucid
[12:04] <Lord_Daedra> I will try now...
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> ajith: do you use a desktop with a mouse pointer and clicky icons?
[12:04] <ajith> i did not get you Mr.Action Pansnip
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ajith: do you use the OS on a desktop with buttons to click and firefox web browser?
[12:05] <Xenon_> hi
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Xenon_, greetings
[12:05] <ajith> no
[12:05] <yashh> after using compiz, the screen always freezes help
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ajith: so it's all text based and no GUI, pure keyboard input?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ajith: black screen, grey text?
[12:06] <ajith> Hey no gui i use
[12:06] <ajith> OS is working fine
[12:06] <ajith> GUI part no issue
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ajith: so you dont use any GUI at all?
[12:06] <ajith> I use
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> ajith: use what?
[12:07] <ajith> GUI ...
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> ajith: Lucid desktop has 4 DAYS support left. I suggest you upgrade. After it is EOL, you will get zero updates and zero community support
[12:08] <yashh> how can i have shortcut icons in ubuntu?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> ajith, what he said.  upgrade ...
[12:09] <nibbler_> how would i get back my beloved gnome2 look&feel in 13.4? i have a taskbar *and* a weired sidebar now.....
[12:09] <ajith> but we are using very much
[12:09] <bmxscott1993> here my question some one help my please here is the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/289042/new-13-04-stop-the-sudo-python-run-py-for-working-need-help-it-chang-the-jack-to
[12:09] <ajith> all of our desktops are tranformed in to 10.04
[12:09] <cfhowlett> nibbler_, there is an official ubuntu-gnome version
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ajith: its due to die
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !gnome
[12:10] <ajith> and for sever 10.04
[12:10] <nibbler_> cfhowlett: ah thanks, trying....
[12:10] <cfhowlett> bmxscott1993, this is a python programming issue.  Perhaps ask in #python    ?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[12:11] <cfhowlett> nibbler_, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/
[12:13] <bmxscott1993> ow thank
[12:13] <bmxscott1993> man
[12:13] <bmxscott1993> did not no they had irc
[12:13] <bmxscott1993> thank
[12:13] <stan_> how often /var/tmp is cleared in Ubuntu?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> ajith: server has a while yet but it has no desktop UI
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> ajith: it is pure command line, no X, no grphical web browsers or graphical file browsers
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> ajith: all text
[12:22] <jackbrown> Is there anyone that can help me to change my /home/user from read only ??  I can't use my OS now
[12:24] <zGreg> Can you take root?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> jackbrown: I suggest you boot to liveCD or USB, then fsck your partition
[12:31] <Luci_> hm
[12:33] <Vulcan> hi
[12:33] <thubtumbing> hi
[12:34] <[deXter]> hi
[12:34] <cloneG> hello I am trying to install the proper drivers provided by ubuntu repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia which one should I get? ubuntu 12.04 nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[12:34] <boairc> hi guys
[12:35] <boairc> im planning to buy myself a Lenovo E550. It has 2 gfx cards - intel 4000 and nvidia gt630 (or 635 depending on which model i buy). My question is if anybody has experience with this laptop or Nvidia Optimus supprt in linux?! I mean will I get the cards working properly with power savings as in windows where they switch from interlto nvidia depending on rendering load?!
[12:35] <uberamd> cloneG: have you tried installing nvidia-current ?
[12:35] <cloneG> yep it crashes
[12:35] <Vulcan> yes to me crashes too
[12:36] <uberamd> cloneG: is this using 12.04?
[12:36] <Vulcan> 13.04
[12:36] <funch> saw one tutorial once
[12:36] <funch> :D
[12:36] <cloneG> Nvidia : could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 8input/output error)
[12:36] <funch> about that nvidia shit
[12:36] <funch> -.-
[12:36] <FloodBot1> funch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> yeah boairc , optimus requires the bumblebee app/driver to work and then it's not always stable afaik
[12:36] <cloneG> yes 12.04
[12:37] <boairc> BluesKaj: so it would run by default using only intel4000 and have the optimus disabled? so optimus wont consume power at least?
[12:37] <cloneG> /var/log/xorg.0.log says failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI 1:0:0
[12:39] <BluesKaj> boairc, there are more knowledgeable ppl , than I , about the fiber points of using bumblebee on optimus gpu setups ..
[12:40] <cloneG> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install if only nvidia had something similar....
[12:40] <uberamd> cloneG: nvidia has a proprietary driver on their site that has a relatively straight forward linux install
[12:40] <cloneG> a nightmare
[12:40] <uberamd> I haven't used it in 6 months, but it worked when I tried
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> my volume indicator has gone
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> my volume indicator has gone
[12:43] <cloneG> the system/administration/additional drivers path pointed in the help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ...might refer to an older ubuntu version, where is that path located in ubuntu 12.04?
[12:44] <compdoc> cloneG, use locate to search
[12:45] <uberamd> cloneG: this is likely the driver version you want http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.49-driver.html
[12:46] <uberamd> if you can bother using the nvidia installer
[12:46] <cloneG> thankyou
[12:47] <cloneG> what about cuda?
[12:47] <ajith> till what 10.04 iwill supported and will get updates??/
[12:47] <cloneG> would it give me the opengl back?
[12:47] <rupert> boairc: afaik in nvidia's latest beta driver there's support for optimus under linux
[12:47] <uberamd> ajith: 2013 for the desktop, 2015 for server
[12:48] <uberamd> cloneG: not sure, dont have an 8800, don't have details
[12:48] <uberamd> ajith: more specifically, 8 more days until support for 10.04 desktop ends
[12:48] <boairc> rupert: you have a link with details by any chance?
[12:49] <rupert> boairc: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM0NzE that's the news article
[12:50] <cloneG> nvidia page lists it under cuda supported cards...
[12:50] <DJones> ajith: 10.04 Becomes EOL on 9th May for Desktop versions
[12:50] <boairc> thank you
[12:50] <cloneG> but I dont know how to install cuda and why
[12:51] <lemin> 12.10 should become eol
[12:53] <cloneG> the driver you point me to its a display driver... it seems there are two different types of drivers display drivers and graphic card drivers am I right
[12:53] <lemin> Cuda is usually for video encoding
[12:54] <cloneG> what does that mean?
[12:54] <cloneG> I only want my openGl back
[12:54] <cloneG> I cant even run blender!
[12:54] <uberamd>  so install the driver then?
[12:54] <rupert> what does opengl has to do with cuda?
[12:54] <lemin> cloneG: you running 64 bit
[12:54] <cloneG> nouveau
[12:54] <uberamd> as far as I understand, CUDA is a technology it isn't something you just install
[12:54] <cloneG> yes 64 bit
[12:55] <anew> where is sftp-server ? i cant fin dit in /bin/sftp-server
[12:55] <cloneG> and when I install ubuntu packages I lose graphic environment
[12:55] <uberamd> cloneG: I could have sworn I linked you to the nvidia driver binary specifically supporting your card...
[12:55] <cloneG> I also tried installing drivers from nvidia site same result
[12:56] <cloneG> yes you did and I thanked you
[12:56] <lemin> cloneG: you need  nvidia propietary driver then ia32 to support 32 bit progrAms.
[12:56] <uberamd> cloneG: not looking for thanks, I just want to be sure that you actually tried that
[12:57] <cloneG> I didnt try that one yet but I am not much hopefull since I ve been trying so many nvidia drivers
[12:57] <cloneG> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.44.run
[12:57] <cloneG> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.88.run
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> anew: install openssh-server and you will get an sftp server
[12:57] <cloneG> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.14.run
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: that driver is in the repos
[12:58] <anew> actionparsnip shouldnt there already be one if i am connected via sftp ?
[12:58] <cloneG> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.12.run
[12:58] <cloneG> thats why I also downloaded them from nvidia...I thought they might need to be the same
[12:58] <BluesKaj> cloneG, that's an experimental driver
[12:58] <BluesKaj> they aren't
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> anew: yes, it's the ssh service
[12:59] <cloneG> do I need to blacklist nouveau with the one you gave me Uberman?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: you don't need to manually download anything, the packages deal with that
[12:59] <anew> http://winscp.net/eng/docs/faq_su i'm trying to follow this tut to set up sftp so i can edit files with winscp but cant get it working.  i edited /etc/sudoers
[12:59] <anew> but not really sure after that why it's not working?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> like he already has actio
[13:00] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip,^
[13:00] <cloneG> I even tried forcing versions via synaptic...because my system was perfectly working after latest kernel upgrade....
[13:00] <cloneG> same result
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> anew: just transfer to home, then cp it over
[13:00] <anew> transfer every single file i want to edit to home ?
[13:00] <anew> wouldnt it be easier to do what the tut says /
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> anew: if you are editting, just use nautilus and mount the share
[13:01] <codepython777> I use rc.local to start certain process. Where can i stick in the shutdown for that process?
[13:02] <compdoc> the shutdown?
[13:02] <anew> actionparsnip i'm using windows to connect to my server
[13:02] <compdoc> oh, for processes started in rc.local?
[13:03] <codepython777> yes
[13:06] <testurnstf> #freenode
[13:08] <compdoc> codepython777, when do you need the process to shutdown? how would the system decide that?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> anew: i see
[13:08] <anew> actionparsnip well now i'm hearing that i shouldnt be sftp into my server
[13:08] <anew> so i dunno
[13:09] <codepython777> compdoc: I need to call a shutdown just as soon as the system gets a "shutdown" signal. I should be able to cleanup my mess in a second.
[13:10] <jid9191> hello. sorry for my bad english. all file managers in my computer opens before two seconds, and that is slow...what can I do? I use ubuntu 13.04
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> anew: is the sftp only accessed over LAN?
[13:11] <compdoc> codepython777, hmm, maybe a script placed in /etc/init.d   or /etc/init  would be better. you can decide which runlevels the process would run in, and when it should terminate
[13:11] <anew> actionparsnip no, well the server is far away if that's what u mean
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> backups <3
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> anew: gah, then you could make a group and add your userto it and the current owner, then change the owner group to that group
[13:12] <jid9191> please, help. all file managers in my computer opens before two seconds, and that is slow...what can I do? I use ubuntu 13.04. sorry for my bad english
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> jid9191  install preload
[13:14] <anew> bleh i guess i'll just nano all OS files i want instead of sftp.  actionparsnip one more noob question, i will be able to edit my website files with sftp wont i? or will i have to nano those also ?
[13:14] <jid9191> MonkeyDust, i have installed it
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> anew: yes, you can upload new versions etc
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> jid9191  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622582/
[13:16] <darthanubis> anyone use autofs?
[13:18] <raven_> Hallo all :)
[13:19] <anew> anything better than nano ?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> anew  define 'better'?
[13:20] <anew> i mean i cant even shortcut undo with nano
[13:20] <Lobosque> I upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 and I don't have the wifi and bluetooth and battery icon in the top right menu anymore. Also, if I click in the guear icon, nothing happens.
[13:20] <Pici> !editors
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Lobosque: if you make a fresh Ubuntu users, is it the same?
[13:21] <fedcab> Hello, since my update to 13.04 I have a problem with my two monitor configuration. Whenever I connect the second monitor something crashes. Currently none of my windows have decorations and there is no kind of menu anywhere. Anyone can give me a hint what to (re-) start to regain control?
[13:21] <Chris-Magentium> Hi Lobosque, i Recommend backing everything up from your install and performing a fresh install of 13.04. I found that .10 to .04 releases dont work to well with upgrades
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> anew: vi has a tonne of functionality but its not a simple as nano
[13:21] <jid9191> MonkeyDust, thanks, I am going to reboot to check if that worked
[13:21] <anew> vi = vim ?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> anew: kinda ;)
[13:21] <Chris-Magentium> fedcab, are you running Compiz?
[13:21] <Pici> vim = Vi IMproved
[13:22] <fedcab> yes, I am
[13:23] <Chris-Magentium> Okay, have you then tried pressing ALT+F2 and typing config --replace
[13:23] <shogun> bom dia
[13:23] <codepython777> compdoc: does it make sense to use upstart for this?
[13:23] <anew> i sudo ed ... a file, now i cant exit it ?
[13:24] <jrib> anew: q
[13:24] <fedcab> Chris-Magentium, Alt-F2 doesn't work anymore
[13:24] <fedcab> Chris-Magentium, no menus
[13:25] <jid9191_> MonkeyDust
[13:26] <jid9191_> MonkeyDust; same speed :S
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> jid9191_  moment
[13:27] <jid9191_> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks for helping me
[13:27] <randy_templar> 96
[13:27] <fedcab> Chris-Magentium, I will restart my session and try that
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> jid9191_  try this, found it here and on howto pages, but I'm not expecting you to trust me http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622620/
[13:31] <jid9191_> MonkeyDust: I trust you, I did it.
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> jid9191_  now reboot to be sure
[13:31] <jid9191_> ok
[13:34] <hrolf> hi ubuntu
[13:34] <hrolf> How do I check my filesystem for errors?
[13:34] <hrolf> I quick shutdown my laptop and my sqlite database is corrupted
[13:34] <hrolf> IS there anyway I can run some disk-fix utility in hope to get something back?
[13:34] <jid9191> MonkeyDust: same time to open, but thanks for trying
[13:36] <paddymahoney> hrolf: I would look first for a utility for sqlite images. Unless there is corruption at the filesystem level, there probably isn't much that the ubuntu filesystem utils can do for you :(
[13:37] <hrolf> paddymahoney: sqlite images?
[13:38] <paddymahoney> hrolf: yeah, I suspect that your sqlite database has an associated file, or files that it stores to?
[13:38] <hrolf> paddymahoney: Yes there is one file. Only one.
[13:39] <paddymahoney> hrolf: unfortunately that hits the extent of my knowledge of how sqlite is persisted. I would probably find #sqlite
[13:40] <shu> laravel
[13:40] <hrolf> paddymahoney: Okay thanks.
[13:40] <paddymahoney> hrolf: hope you fix your issue! it stinks to lose data :(
[13:41] <hrolf> paddymahoney: Not really important data.
[13:41] <paddymahoney> hrolf: good...
[13:41] <hrolf> paddymahoney: Just a list of what I had downloaded. Databse of DownThemAll extensin in Firefox.
[13:42] <hrolf> Though there were some paused downloads, which I need to recover
[13:42] <paddymahoney> hrolf: ah. when it says that something is corrupted, could it be that the version of sqlite that you are using has changed?
[13:43] <hrolf> paddymahoney: Nope. The issue is with the database file. I'm querying but not getting all the data back.
[13:44] <hrolf> paddymahoney: Did an integrity check in sqlite itself and it showed there were some errors. Some index errors etc. Which I really don't get.
[13:45] <naterd00d> hey all
[13:45] <naterd00d> anybody know anything about configuring BIND/WEBMIN at all?
[13:46] <Pici> !webmin
[13:46] <emx> what do i need to install to get standard ubuntu desktop? "ubuntu desktop"?
[13:46] <Chris-Magentium> I used to run Webmin on my server...man what a bad idea, messed up a LOT of stuff
[13:46] <Chris-Magentium> emx ubuntu-desktop
[13:46] <Chris-Magentium> emx : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> emx  start rom the beginning, what are you using now?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> from*
[13:48] <darthanubis> can't mount nfs shares
[13:48] <darthanubis> anyone notice that?
[13:49] <fedcab> Chris-Magentium, obviously config --replace didn't help. What else couldI try?
[13:49] <naterd00d> gah
[13:49] <naterd00d> ok whats the best alternative to webmin?
[13:49] <darthanubis> #zentyal?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> !webmin
[13:50] <naterd00d> um yeah
[13:50] <naterd00d> so ispconfig maybe?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> naterd00d  or landscape
[13:50] <Chris-Magentium> fedcab - Have a look at this link, helped me out with Resetting Unity when that happened to me
[13:50] <Chris-Magentium> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[13:50] <darthanubis> naterd00d, or zentyal
[13:50] <naterd00d> apt-get landscape?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !landscape
[13:50] <darthanubis> you have to pay for landscape
[13:51] <naterd00d> how much is it
[13:51] <darthanubis> you will see
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> naterd00d  landscape is a business solution, so see what you need
[13:52] <darthanubis> !zentyal
[13:52] <naterd00d> i dont need a business solution
[13:52] <naterd00d> yeah that seems more my speed there
[13:52] <naterd00d> what about ispconfig
[13:52] <naterd00d> !ispconfig
[13:52] <naterd00d> im not cool enough haha
[13:53] <darthanubis> that iswhy ubuntu claims webmin is bad for debian based systems now
[13:53] <darthanubis> they have their own solution
[13:53] <Pici> darthanubis: no.
[13:53] <darthanubis> ok
[13:53] <loldog> Is landscape free?
[13:53] <darthanubis> no
[13:53] <naterd00d> no
[13:53] <naterd00d> its like 100 per puter
[13:53] <Pici> darthanubis: It has nothing to do with landscape. We have said this about webmin for quite a while now, since before landscape existed.
[13:53] <darthanubis> ok
[13:53] <naterd00d> more than that but yeah
[13:54] <Chris-Magentium> I have WebMin Installed on my server. Updated to 13.04 for some updated packages that we needed, and webmin was just error after error after error
[13:54] <naterd00d> ok zentyal
[13:54] <darthanubis> Pici, I was not talking about Landscape
[13:54] <darthanubis> but ok
[13:54] <darthanubis> proceed
[13:54] <Chris-Magentium> Even on 12.04 and 12.10 it was buggy
[13:54] <naterd00d> whats the best way to uninstall webmin and refresh all my bind stuff
[13:54] <naterd00d> to defaults
[13:54] <darthanubis> uninstall it
[13:54] <zykotick9> !webmin | Chris-Magentium
[13:55] <Pici> darthanubis: fine, replace landscape with zenatyl/ebox.  It has nothing to do with 'having our own solution'.  The fact is that webmin just doesn't work right.
[13:55] <darthanubis> ok,dude
[13:55] <darthanubis> you win
[13:55] <Chris-Magentium> Zykotick9 yes i stated that above which is why i had to remove it from my server =]
[13:56] <AlexTheRealOne> How i give programms root rights? for ever
[13:56] <Chris-Magentium> AlexTheRealOne - Quick Question...why would you give a program root rights forever??
[13:56] <darthanubis> no
[13:56] <AlexTheRealOne> Chris-Magentium, Cuz i dont want run zenmap always trough terminal
[13:59] <otend> err... I appear to have lost audio.
[13:59] <Chris-Magentium> AlexTheRealOne, ah i see (Sorry, security admin coming back to me :P )  the only way that i know of is setting up a script that runs it as root ,but which will still require a password being entered....
[13:59] <otend> as in, it's going to a dummy output
[14:00] <otend> any way to get it back into working order?
[14:01]  * OerHeks notices the skype 4.1 bug is solved with updates
[14:01] <genii-around> AlexTheRealOne: Alternately, use the method with sudoers file as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password
[14:01] <AlexTheRealOne> Chris-Magentium, okay thx lets script it
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> AlexTheRealOne  just installed zenmap, there's zenmap and zenmap (as root)    <-- GUI
[14:02] <Chris-Magentium> genii-around, I are so stupd :P (get it?) i forgot about the sudoers file :P
[14:02] <Chris-Magentium> otend
[14:02] <otend> ?
[14:02] <AlexTheRealOne> MonkeyDust, I just have Zenmap not the root version okay lets download it again
[14:03] <Chris-Magentium> otend : Sorry, hit enter early. Are you on a laptop? or a PC ?
[14:03] <otend> laptop
[14:03] <sarahS> Hi everyone…..on ubuntu server, i keep getting a prompt (among others) saying there is a problem with my system and requests "the" admin password to access the error reports.
[14:03] <sarahS> It does not accept the password for the only user on my system.
[14:03] <sarahS> is there some other default password,
[14:03] <sarahS> or is there a way to set that password?
[14:04] <compdoc> there is no default password. and it should take your password
[14:04] <sarahS> it doesn't :|
[14:04] <compdoc> you installed a desktop on Server?
[14:04] <sarahS> yeah….client demand
[14:05] <compdoc> thats how I do it - ut theres no problems. what program is chrashing, do you think?
[14:05] <compdoc> *but
[14:05] <sarahS> fortunately it's only a staging machine so security isn't paramount
[14:05] <compdoc> crashing
[14:05] <sarahS> it happens on boot
[14:06] <sarahS> ok then…i'll keep at it
[14:06] <otend> I tried opening alsamixer, but it says "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory"
[14:07] <compdoc> sarahS, after installing, does it ever work, even for a short while?
[14:07] <obert> !lts
[14:08] <Chris-Magentium> otend. you will need to re-install Alsa then. Open up Synaptic and fine the Alsa-Base package and install
[14:08] <sarahS> compdoc: yeah it seems to run fine
[14:08] <Chris-Magentium> Otend - alternately you can type sudo apt-get install alsa-base && sudo apt-get install pulseaudio && sudo alsa force-reload
[14:09] <otend> alsa-base is already the newest version
[14:09] <sarahS> there was some other administrative task i tried yesterday that prompted me for that same password.
[14:09] <otend> trying force-reload
[14:09] <sarahS> i forgot what it was...
[14:10] <otend> and it's hanging
[14:10] <Chris-Magentium> Hmm okay, open up Synaptic and remove Alsa completely. Then Install it again, and reboot
[14:10] <obert> !distupgrade
[14:10] <Chris-Magentium> I had same issue on my laptop
[14:10] <TuxRox> Hello all. I am running 13.04 and have not been able to get nautilus-compare to work. The context (right-click) menu does not show compare when I lasso two files and I can not figure out why. I also tried installing nemo and nemo-compare with the same results. Is anyone familiar with why this might be?
[14:10] <otend> intel?
[14:11] <otend> actually, I'm seeing it on the forums after looking up.  guess I'm not alone
[14:11] <obert>  !upgrade
[14:11] <Chris-Magentium> otend, have you tried pulseaudio?
[14:11] <otend> should I just kill the force-reload?
[14:11] <Chris-Magentium> Yeah that would be good idea
[14:12] <darkmutt> ok this's silly of me but is there a way of mass renaming files in a folder in ubuntu? in ugh windows i used to simply select all F2 and say the naming way
[14:12] <darkmutt> here how?
[14:12] <otend> already installed, now let's reinstall alsa
[14:12] <fedcab> Chris-Magentium, obviously it doesn't necessarily have problems with two monitors. Maybe it's just my 2560x1600 pixel monitor that causes problems.
[14:12] <sogeking99> hey guys, I want to install ubuntu. I do not have a usb stick, but I do have an SD card and a built in card reader. Can I install from an SD card?
[14:13] <genii-around> sogeking99: Does your bios allow you to boot from the SD card?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: as long as the BIOS can boot SD card, yes
[14:14] <sogeking99> I'm not sure really, it's a brand new laptop like, Sony Vaio
[14:14] <obert> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS means that I am updated and I don't need to search for 13.04 right?
[14:14] <Chris-Magentium> fedcab, my laptop at 1920x1080 and my second monitor at same res work fine, but at work my 1680x1050 has issues, only cos its a ViewSonic. It does indeed sound like the monitor is not giving the correct into to your GPU Adapter
[14:15] <Chris-Magentium> sogeking99 just be warned, it will take a while...SD Cards are very slow
[14:15] <otend> obert, unless you want 13.04 in particular, you're good
[14:15] <johnjohn101> sd cards are slower than usb sticks?
[14:15] <otend> since LTS is good for years
[14:15] <obert> otend: why shouldnt i? i was focusing on that LTS though
[14:15] <SrRaven> Gday, im having issues trying to get Ubuntu to run on my macbook pro. I cant get the lvie cd to boot
[14:15] <genii-around> johnjohn101: About the same. Varies by manufacturer too though.
[14:15] <sogeking99> okay thanks
[14:16] <otend> well, unless you have constant video driver crashes, upgrading's unnecessary.  I'm not saying it's bad, but if you don't specifically want it, upgrading from LTS isn't necessary.  if you do want it, you can upgrade rather easily, though you'll lose the LTS bit
[14:17] <otend> also, bit of a warning: non-LTS versions tend to have a bit less stability.  if you still want it, I can help you upgrade.
[14:19] <ses1984> i'm trying to install and configure the package 'drbl' on a new 13.04 install, and it seems to be broken, its configuration depends on ntfsprogs and libdigest-sha1-perl which are not included in the repos anymore
[14:19] <kelly> i'm trying to install a little bit older program and get a "The important program kde-config was not found!" error. Witch packet should I install to make this work?
[14:19] <vexati0n> Hey - I like that NetworkManager now supports VLANs, but why won't it let me assign a VLAN ID greater than 100?
[14:20] <obert> no otend thanks. i am fine with this
[14:20] <otend> mmkay; enjoy
[14:20] <obert> otend: perhaps it would be cool to get kubuntu, but dunno sincerely
[14:22] <SuperLag> Anyone else trying to use Chrome/Chromium as their default browser, and 13.04 doesn't retain the default browser settings?
[14:22] <genii-around> vexati0n: That sounds like a bug, since the standard supports 0-4095
[14:24] <papachan> SuperLag i am using chromium
[14:24] <papachan> as default browser
[14:24] <joelwallis> im using chromium and its working fine
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> vexati0n: who has more than 100 vlans...
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: did you upgrade from 12.10 or did you clean install?
[14:26] <erik_271> join #xstream
[14:27]  * thejet909 starting to dual boot
[14:27] <xiongxiong> dual boot, too
[14:29]  * thejet909 i am installing 12.04 to second internal HDD and keeping my Win7 untouched on HDD1??
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> thejet909: how is that a question?
[14:30]  * thejet909 my very first time & i am trying to talk to a guy who msg me - i have many questions but you;ve jumped on my FIRST message!! go easy!
[14:30] <SrRaven> no one?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> thejet909: please don't prefix everything with /me   just type as normal
[14:31]  * Chris-Magentium is getting annoyed with prefixes, especially obelix and asterisk
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> thejet909: if you are asking IF the install will tough the standing Windows install then no, it will not touch it, unless you tell it to
[14:32] <vexati0n> ActionParsnip: That's not the point, and lots of organizations don't number then one at a time, FFS. VLANs can go up to 4096. "I don't personally use that many" is a terrible reason not to support the standard.
[14:32] <thejet909> ok just following hyrdraIRC getting started...
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> vexati0n: are there bugs reported? Can you set a higher ID in CLI?
[14:32] <vexati0n> ActionParsnip: I cannot find any bugs reported, and CLI isn't what I'm asking about.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> thejet909: loved hydrairc in windows
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> vexati0n: but if you can set it in CLI, then it is a bug with the GUI app
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> vexati0n: isn't it...?
[14:33] <thejet909> yeah seems very easy since i havent used IRC since 1990s!!!! scary!!
[14:33] <vexati0n> ActionParsnip: yes.
[14:33] <Chris-Magentium> Love IRC regardless of the app. If i can type, i are happy :
[14:34] <Frosted-fire> anyone break unity after install ati drivers -_- ?
[14:34] <thejet909> if i install my 12.04 to a second internal HDD could i then move that internal to a new machine when i upgrade ie hoping can take my dual boot ubuntu drive with me!!
[14:35] <Frosted-fire> Just make sure you don't have any graphics drives installed, then you can.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> thejet909: yes you can install on one system then move the drive over, you may have to configure Grub a bit but that will work
[14:35] <Frosted-fire> \list
[14:35] <thejet909> anyway i'll get it working on new internal HDD and leave the 1st HD with Win7 installed untouched and you say it wont affect 1st drive as long as i get boot commands correct?
[14:36] <TuxRox> Hello all. I am running 13.04 and have not been able to get nautilus-compare to work. The context (right-click) menu does not show compare when I lasso two files and I can not figure out why. I also tried installing nemo and nemo-compare with the same results. Is anyone familiar with why this might be?
[14:37] <Frosted-fire> I think it is cause nautilus has changed in ubuntu 13.04
[14:37] <francomaxxtro> ciao a tuttii :)
[14:37] <francomaxxtro> !list
[14:37] <pvnr> Hello can anybody tell what is the terminal command for setting proxy?
[14:37] <thejet909> great actpar thank you - onc 12.04 up & running on 2nd internal HDD will it be able to utilise all the hardware fruit in my HP tower such as TV card?
[14:37] <genii-around> !it | francomaxxtro
[14:37] <Frosted-fire> with previous version you could set sorting methods per folder now you can't
[14:38] <cypher_> :)
[14:38] <Frosted-fire> Anyone know how to get nautilus back to the way it was before ubuntu 13 ?
[14:40] <Chris-Magentium> thejet909, depends on the model and make of the TV Card. Ubuntu has pretty wide spread driver support though so should work
[14:40] <thejet909> ActionParsnip is this to you direct?
[14:41] <thejet909> thanks chris - how do a reply to you is there a .command? Anyway its a upper end HP Win 7 Tower (9790a) with very good hardware so should be able to find drivers etc yeah?
[14:42] <emx> how do i install the driver for radeon 7000?
[14:42] <Altonymous> Has anyone used siege performance benchmarking tool with ubuntu ?
[14:42] <Frosted-fire> emx go to the cchtml wiki there you will find all the comands you need.
[14:44] <adamk> emx: An actual Radeon 7000, or some radeon HD 7xxx GPU video card?  There is a huge difference.
[14:45] <adamk> The very old radeon 7000 is only supported by the open source radeon driver.
[14:45] <mchlbhm> How is ubuntu better than win7 and would I be able to play skyrim, fallout nv, etc on it?
[14:46] <thejet909> ubuntu makes awsome use of scarce and expensive resources! for a start...
[14:46] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: clean install, from while 13.04 was still in beta
[14:47] <himanshu_linux> hi , i am using ubuntu 12.04. I have a problem , whenever i start my system i get a error report or crash report , and a update message too . I update my system once in a week. Pls help.. my system is working a bit slow and i want to get rid of those report too .
[14:48] <growdane> window 3
[14:48] <johnjohn101> going to have to say i wish 13.04 unity was back ported to 12.04.  it's faster and better. I know it's wishful thinking
[14:49] <himanshu_linux> any way to get rid of this error ?
[14:49] <TuxRox> Hello all. I am running 13.04 and have not been able to get nautilus-compare to work. The context (right-click) menu does not show compare when I lasso two files and I can not figure out why. I also tried installing nemo and nemo-compare with the same results. Is anyone familiar with why this might be?
[14:50] <Appu1> Anybody please explain why ubuntu is the most popular linux distro?
[14:50] <thejet909> god bless irc! have gotten more answers on dual-boot in 30mins than 3 day reading websites and forums!! thanks all who helped - off to prpe installation
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> TuxRox  the gnome team has changed alot in the new nautilus and not always for the best (I miss F3 dual panel)
[14:50] <SuperLag> Appu1: because people like it.
[14:51] <dingdong_> MonkeyDust: there's a patched version of nautilus available with dual pane, im using it
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> dingdong_  without ppa?
[14:51] <dingdong_> no
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> :)
[14:51] <Appu1> SuprLag : Why dont the people like Fedora or livemint as much as it
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !poll | Appu1
[14:52] <thejet909> appu: based on very sound code, good degree of customization whilst also being so simple grandma uses it...and rungs great on lesser machines (resurrects old laptops) with EXCELLENT support community.
[14:53] <Appu1> I do love using it... But the problem is not ablle to set the display brightness in my Laptop in ubuntu. But its possible in Win7.
[14:54] <Appu1> Somebody knw how to set the disp brighness in ubuntu??
[14:55] <Appu1> Isnt anybody out there?
[14:55] <Magentium> Appu1 what laptop you have?
[14:55] <Appu1> Compaq
[14:55] <Mesa> I need Help
[14:55] <Magentium> Particular model?
[14:55] <Magentium> Mesa : How can we help you ?
[14:56] <yalex> hello, i have a crontab set for every 4 hours but when it executes it seems to continually repeat the command
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Appu1  system settings, brightness & lock
[14:56] <Appu1> Magentium : Compaq mini CQ10-400
[14:56] <Mesa> I am looking for the orignal version of unbuntu that came on my dell mini\
[14:57] <Appu1> MonkeyDust: Lemme have a try. Thank you.
[14:57] <Magentium> Version of Ubuntu ?
[14:57] <Appu1> 10.04
[14:57] <ideas-hub> hallo
[14:57] <Magentium> And are you having issues with the Keyboard Brightness keys? or just overall setting brightness
[14:58] <yalex> the script only executes once from the command line but repeatedly in cron when it reaches 4 hours
[14:58] <Appu1> Magentium: Both
[14:58] <Magentium> Mesa, Model of the mini ?
[14:58] <Magentium> Appu1, have you performed a dist-upgrade?
[14:58] <ideas-hub> can someone tell me how to fix supertuxkart
[14:58] <shasha_> hello
[14:58] <ideas-hub> the arror is
[14:58] <ideas-hub> failed to create drawable
[14:58] <ideas-hub> X Error of failed request:  BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[14:58] <yalex> any advice?
[14:58] <Appu1> shasha: hello
[14:58] <Pici> yalex: What does your crontab look like? What does the script look like?
[14:58] <Mesa> Magentium: pp19s
[14:58] <Pici> !pastebin | yalex
[14:59] <shasha_> how does i use "groupmod -o sambagroup"
[14:59] <ideas-hub> save it
[14:59] <shasha_> ?
[14:59] <shasha_> it doesn't work
[14:59] <ideas-hub> i dont have the time for this
[14:59] <genii-around> Mesa: Do you remember which Ubuntu version it was? eg: 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, etc
[14:59] <ideas-hub> how can i fix it
[14:59] <Pici> !who
[14:59] <ideas-hub> im in a rush
[14:59] <Mesa> No
[14:59] <ideas-hub> im not im asking everyone
[15:00] <ideas-hub> CAN ANYONE HELP
[15:00] <Magentium> Mesa i believe that was an embedded system, i cannot find any references to it
[15:00] <Mesa> I had a disk but lost it
[15:00] <yalex> thanks Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622865/
[15:00] <Magentium> ideas-hub i am looking now.
[15:00] <genii-around> Mesa: If you go to http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/w/linux/ubuntu-8-04.aspx  this starts off with the 8.04 .... on the right is info about the others up to 9.10. Each page has a link to the Dell iso files
[15:00] <Mesa> how do I make chat direct towrd you
[15:01] <Appu1> Personal Messaga
[15:01] <ideas-hub> thank you so much
[15:01] <Mesa> Thx I will Try
[15:02] <yalex> Pici, its works once from the command line - its just cron when it continues to execute
[15:03] <vic> ubuntu 13.04 boots to blank screen...
[15:03] <sharins> !who
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | vic
[15:04] <sharins> cool to write from terminal xD
[15:04] <Xspeed> hey everyone from Russia
[15:05] <Mesa> genii-around : I cant download the ISO get anerror page
[15:05] <Pici> yalex: Your crontab says that it should run every 4 hours, but every minute during that hour.  Change it to 0 */4 * * *
[15:06] <vic> monkeydust: nomodeset how do i configure it.?
[15:06] <yalex> thanks Pici
[15:06] <Magentium> ideas-hub what graphics card do you have?
[15:06] <Appu1> Isnt there any games like assassins available on Ubuntu?
[15:07] <ideas-hub> onboard gpu
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[15:07] <ideas-hub> but it did have a external gpu before
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> vic  open the link to find out
[15:07] <ideas-hub> but after the game froze on that i took it out
[15:08] <ideas-hub> and ran it from the onboard gpu
[15:08] <Magentium> And this was when it crashed?
[15:08] <ideas-hub> yea pretty much
[15:09] <johnjohn101> how do we make requests for newer packages to be pushed out to precise?
[15:09] <cloneG> hello trying to install cuda in ubuntu 12.04 following this help:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cuda I get this compilation error: http://pastebin.com/dMbWbL9z
[15:09] <cloneG> how could I fix it
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> johnjohn101  it's called !backports
[15:10] <ideas-hub> hallo
[15:10] <ideas-hub> you still their
[15:10] <Magentium> Yes, sorry.
[15:10] <mcnesium> after the upgrade of my ubuntu server to 13.04 my phpmyadmin is broken somehow. the browser reports 500 (internal server error) and in the error.log it says: PHP Fatal error:  require_once(): Failed opening required './libraries/php-gettext/gettext.inc' (include_path='.') in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/select_lang.lib.php on line 370 ... any ideas what that could mean?
[15:11] <Magentium> I believe that your onboard card does not have the power / driver support to run  the game properly. Are you able to provide more details on the specific model?
[15:11] <ideas-hub> ill do lspci
[15:11] <jrib> mcnesium: apt-cache policy phpmyadmin and do other php work?
[15:12] <johnjohn101> !backports
[15:13] <mcnesium> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5622896/ and yes, php works. i am using a wordpress backend right now
[15:13] <johnjohn101> tx: monkeydust   I get really tired of having to manage some of the third party ppas.
[15:13] <genii-around> Mesa: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/w/linux/building-base-ubuntu-factory-iso.aspx
[15:14] <vexati0n> exity
[15:14] <cloneG> hello trying to install cuda in ubuntu 12.04 following this help:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cuda I get this compilation error: http://pastebin.com/dMbWbL9z
[15:16] <mcnesium> jrib: any ideas?
[15:17] <lnxslck> cloneG, go here
[15:18] <lnxslck> cloneG,
[15:18] <lnxslck> cloneG, https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/470632/sdk-samples-not-installing/
[15:18] <ideas-hub> ok heres the gpu card
[15:18] <ideas-hub> [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP
[15:18] <vic_> how to unlock modem in ubuntu
[15:19] <Myrtti> vic_: say, what?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> vic_: run:  lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[15:19] <ideas-hub> magentium
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> vic_: I imagine you mean a 3G modem.?
[15:19] <ideas-hub> you their
[15:19] <Magentium> ideas-hub there is your problem. SiS cards dont support 3d Acceleration in Ubuntu
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: the only way I have seen those work is with an xorg.conf file, they aren't great but will do 2D just fine.
[15:19] <ideas-hub> but the games working on other pcs
[15:20] <ideas-hub> WITH
[15:20] <ideas-hub> the same exact spec
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: what OS?
[15:20] <ideas-hub> ubuntu 11
[15:20] <Magentium> 11.04 or 11.10 ?
[15:20] <ideas-hub> and mint 13
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: ubuntu 11    isn't a thing
[15:20] <ideas-hub> 11.10
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: try with XFCE, it will perform better for you
[15:21] <vic_> ActionParsnip: yes 3G modem network locked
[15:21] <ideas-hub> your not asking me to reinstall linux are you
[15:22] <ideas-hub> i hope your not
[15:22] <ideas-hub> i havent got time for that
[15:22] <faLUCE> hello. is there a step by step guide for installing windows 7 on a pc that has already ubuntu 12.10 ?
[15:22] <adamk_> ideas-hub, No one suggested that.
[15:23] <ses1984> i'm trying to install and configure the package 'drbl' on a new 13.04 install, and it seems to be broken, its configuration depends on ntfsprogs and libdigest-sha1-perl which are not included in the repos anymore
[15:23] <ideas-hub> good
[15:23] <ideas-hub> im gonna take a break
[15:23] <adamk_> I'm still doubtful any 3D game will perform well with a SiS GPU on Linux, no matter what window manager is being used.
[15:23] <ideas-hub> ill brb
[15:23] <ses1984> the package itself doesn't depend on ntfsporgs or libdigest-sha1-perl, but when you go to configure it, it complains about those packages being unavailable and configuration won't complete
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> vic_: in future, please state '3G modem#',   a 'modem' can be many things
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: no
[15:24] <ideas-hub> why
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: just install an exra package, log off and log in to the new session
[15:24] <ideas-hub> ive been trying to get games to work on this network for hours
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: it wont do 3D gaming
[15:24] <cloneG> faLUCE: its a hard thing to get...windows dont like linux partners
[15:24] <ideas-hub> ive ran the game on another machine and it does
[15:25] <ideas-hub> same spec and everything
[15:25] <ideas-hub> SO DONT TELL ME IT WONT RUN
[15:25] <adamk_> Then please show us the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from this other machine.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: run a full backup, boot to live Ubuntu CD / USB and resize Ext4, boot to Windows CD and install Windows to the free space, boot back to Ubuntu LiveCD and reinstate Grub to the MBR and reboot to Ubuntu, configure Grub to also boot Windows
[15:25] <ideas-hub> im having a break
[15:25] <ideas-hub> ill brb in a min or so
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: its doable, just a lot of work
[15:27] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: I know that,but I'm searching a complete guide/how to
[15:27] <ace_me> hi all
[15:27] <ace_me> I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[15:28] <ace_me> and I want to add mcc with apt-get install but it does not work
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: thats the complete guide, end to end
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> !find mcc
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> !info cl-mcclim
[15:28] <vic_> ActionParsnip: is there a way to unlock 3G modem?
[15:29] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: after resizing ext4 should I create a new  ntfs partition with gparted?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: no, leave it unpartitioned, let the windows installer partition it
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ace_me: is it the mythbuntu control centre?
[15:30] <ace_me> was need to add apt-get update b4
[15:30] <ace_me> thx
[15:31] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip:  boot back to Ubuntu LiveCD and reinstate Grub to the MBR and reboot to Ubuntu, configure Grub to also boot Windows <--- Is there a guide for that?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: all over the place, yes, omgubuntu has one call ed 'sticking it to grub'
[15:32] <faLUCE> thanks
[15:32] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip:
[15:34] <aneks> hey guys if by running vbeinfo in grub one of the modes that are supported is 1920x1080 and I change that in the /etc/default/grub file and do sudo update-grub, shouldn't that change the resolution of the grub screen? mine seems to be shrunk and stuck to maybe 640x480 or something.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> faLUCE, beware of the chroot grub-repair tutorial , it's iffy
[15:35] <faLUCE> BluesKaj: do you know any good link?
[15:35] <ideas-hub> right im back
[15:35] <ideas-hub> now
[15:35] <Magentium> Darnit >.< Anyone know what the command is to check what has a lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock? momentary brain emptyness
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> never seen an issue with chroot / grub-repair. How is it iffy?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Magentium
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Magentium: be sure updates are not running and GUI package apps are not open
[15:36] <ideas-hub> whoever dosent want to help just dont help
[15:36] <ideas-hub> whoever does help
[15:36] <Magentium> ActionParsnip, you are a LEGEND! thats exactly what i needed. Was configuring OpenVPN in a Terminal and it closed but kept running in background
[15:37] <faLUCE> in addition: is there a tool, for ubuntu, for making an usb bootable stick with a Windows iso ?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Magentium: hehe
[15:37] <ideas-hub> now who can help me
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: i believe unetbootin can do it on an NTFS formatted stck, but i've never tried it.
[15:38] <ideas-hub> ok so no one wants to help
[15:38] <ideas-hub> fine
[15:38] <ideas-hub> ill go else where
[15:38] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: thanks
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: well done, you waited 60 seconds....real patient
[15:38] <aneks> :)
[15:38] <adamk_> ideas-hub, If you have the game working on another computer, show us the Xorg log file from that computer so we can see what is going on.
[15:39] <ideas-hub> ok ill do that now
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: thought you were 'going elsewhere'...?
[15:39] <ideas-hub> shut up you
[15:39] <ideas-hub> if you dont want to help then dont
[15:40] <Magentium> Now now, language like that is uncalled for
[15:40] <Magentium> if you wish to speak like that, then go elsewhere where
[15:40] <thejet909> ideas: see you try a slave for instant service:)
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: if you make threats, dont be surprised if you are called on them. ok
[15:41] <ideas-hub> i welcome it
[15:41] <ideas-hub> 100%
[15:41] <ideas-hub> now if you dont mind
[15:42] <aneks> anyone know anything about my above mentioned question? :)
[15:42] <ideas-hub> ok where is the xorg log
[15:42] <adamk_> ideas-hub, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:43] <ideas-hub> ok cheers
[15:43] <MeXTuX> I am having this issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/286259/ubuntu-13-04-endless-reboot Lenovo laptop 3000-G530
[15:43] <MeXTuX> Even the LiveCD reboots endlessly
[15:43] <dtbsjnbsre> hi does Kubuntu supported for 5 years? I hear only ubuntu was supported 5 years and derivative 3 years
[15:43] <MeXTuX> But with 12.10 LiveCD this was not happening
[15:44] <tgm4883> dtbsjnbsre, it's up to the derivative to decide how long they are supported for
[15:44] <dtbsjnbsre> hi ok, do you have kubuntu irc? plz
[15:45] <ideas-hub> ok found it
[15:45] <tgm4883> !kubuntu | dtbsjnbsre
[15:45] <ideas-hub> i also found a xorg.1. file
 thx a bunch!
[15:45] <Malimbar> is there any way to grab individual files off of a backup (via deja-dup, ubuntu's included backup)?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: may help http://namakutux.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/linux-driver-for-661741760-pciagp-or.html
[15:46] <Malimbar> I've been trying to restore everything to a specific folder, and it's getting some funky error message
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> Malimbar  "some funky error message"?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> faLUCE, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UYE4qkmVsac
[15:47] <J2cloud> Hi guys, quick question. I use xrandr to set my underscan on after every boot. Is there a way I can make this setting permanent, so I don't have to use terminal every time?
[15:47] <Ennom> J2cloud: yes, made it yeasterday :)
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: http://georgik.sinusgear.com/2011/02/01/linux-x-org-sis-driver-configuration/
[15:47] <Ennom> J2cloud: hold on one sec
[15:47] <ideas-hub> ok i will give that a try
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: its not the best GPU
[15:47] <Malimbar> MonkeyDust: It takes a while to come up, the preperation time takes several minutes and I don't remember what it was.
[15:47] <J2cloud> Alright
[15:48] <ideas-hub> and a punch-line to it is it doesnt display 1024 res
[15:48] <adamk_> Personally, I'm still waiting to see the log file from the computer where this works fine...
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: if you can, get a new video card and disable the onboard ( I assume desktop PC )
[15:48] <ideas-hub> so maybe that will shut that game up
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Malimbar  error messages gtend to contain the clue to a solution
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> tend*
[15:49] <Malimbar> I'm trying to restore again right now, but it'll take probably 10 minutes or so before the error comes up. I guess I can check back in then
[15:49] <Malimbar> MonkeyDust: would downgrading ubuntu have any effect on that? I just went from 13.04 back to 12.04
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | Malimbar
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Malimbar  that would be a fresh install, then
[15:50] <Ennom> J2cloud: here i am sorry, so you have to modify your xprofile file
[15:50] <J2cloud> alright, and where is that
[15:50] <Ennom> J2cloud: and add those three lines you type on the terminal to set the vid
[15:50] <Ennom> J2cloud: sudo gedit ~/.xprofile
[15:50] <Malimbar> MonkeyDust: yeah, wiped the main HD and reinstalled. 13.04 was giving me a !@#$ ton of errors/bugs
[15:51] <stree> and reinstalled
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Ennom: 1. why sudo?   and 2. sudo is NOT for GUI apps
[15:51] <ses1984> i'm trying to install 12.04 64 from a netboot install, i can boot into the installer
[15:51] <stree> thats what netboot is
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Ennom: users have fullaccess to their own home, so why do you need sudo?
[15:51] <J2cloud> Ennom: should the file be empty at the moment?
[15:51] <ses1984> but after selecting a mirror and getting to the "download installer components" step, i just get a blank purple screen and nothing happens
[15:52] <Ennom> J2cloud: might be
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Malimbar  odd, it works like a charm, here
[15:52] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip is right. Don't use sudo for gui applications
[15:52] <Ennom> ActionParsnip: I could not access mine (had to create it) and needed root privs
[15:52] <ses1984> i was able to successfully install 13.04 from netboot install image, but some things i want to don't work in 13.04, i need to get 12.04 on this machine
[15:52] <tgm4883> Ennom, then you did something bad
[15:52] <Ennom> tgm4883: its working, why was it so bad?
[15:52] <J2cloud> so i just put xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set underscan on in the file and save?
[15:53] <tgm4883> Ennom, if you can't access things in your own home directory, that is bad
[15:53] <tgm4883> Ennom, probably ended up that way because A) you used sudo on a gui application and/or B) you don't know what you are doing
[15:54] <Malimbar> MonkeyDust: I've figured the problem with 13.04 - it was the new kernal not liking the graphics drivers. Thus weird stuff.
[15:54] <Ennom> tgm4883: yep, I don't know what I'm doing and I mostly do that trial and error :) anyway all the stuff like creating dir I can do that w/o problems but in this case I had to use root privs
[15:54] <codephobic> hi, got a few questions regarding ubuntu 13. 1) is there any way to get the 'status bar' back at the bottom of the nautilus window? It used to show the amount of free space left in the drive you were exploring. Very useful feature that. And 2) is it possible to get the right-click option for viewing/opening a directory in geeqie? This used to work in 12.10, but since the upgrade ... gone.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Ennom: users can make new files in their own home folders
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> Malimbar  for future reference: how did you find out?
[15:54] <J2cloud> I don't even have a .xprofile
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Ennom: and use gksudo for gedit, not sudo
[15:55] <J2cloud> i have a .profile
[15:55] <J2cloud> But I'm assuming those aren't the same
[15:55] <cconrad> Hi, I am considering switching to Ubuntu/Linux, is there an easy way to find out if my hardware is supported without repartitioning?
[15:55] <tgm4883> Ennom, so rather than using sudo to access the file, the better question is, why can't your user access it (probably permissions), and does that need fixed
[15:55] <Malimbar> MonkeyDust: I got pissed, installed Debian, upgraded to the latest version, had many of the same problems
[15:56] <Malimbar> though it also only half-worked if I used an older kernal via grub, so I'm not sure if that was all that was wrong
[15:56] <genii-around> cconrad: The simplest way is to see if everything works when you boot up to a liveDVD
[15:56] <ideas-hub> well that didnt work
[15:56] <cconrad> @genii-around: unfortunately my laptop doesn't have a dvd drive
[15:56] <J2cloud> liveUSB?
[15:56] <wdonkey> cconrad: use a usb drive
[15:57] <genii-around> cconrad: There is also a Hardware Compatibility List but it's a bit outdated ( see !hcl )
[15:57] <wdonkey> you can make one in windows
[15:57] <stree> unfortunately i have four workspaces running terminal rtorren 8 tab firefox file manager mattered in that case
[15:57] <ideas-hub> all cos i took out a graphics card
[15:57] <Ennom> tgm4883: good question and honestly never asked myself that one
[15:57] <stree> a global, but honestly
[15:57] <genii-around> cconrad: As wdonkey says, you can also boot to the usb if your system supports that
[15:58] <ideas-hub> i never thought id say this but i hate linux
[15:59] <aneks> I guess not :)
[15:59] <rangel> buenos dias
[15:59] <adamk_> ideas-hub, I've offered to help, but you haven't yet posted the Xorg log file from the working machine.  This will be the last time I suggest it.
[15:59] <cconrad> thx all, i'll try the usb method. bye
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> ideas-hub  thank you for sharing your feelings with the channel
[15:59] <ideas-hub> huh yea
[16:00] <ideas-hub> ok sorry
[16:00] <ideas-hub> i almost forgot about that
[16:00] <stree> for sharing your feelings with the phone MonkeyDust i know xd
[16:01] <ideas-hub> ok brb
[16:02] <aneks> MonkeyDust, any idea why my grub screen stays shrunk, even after I changed the line in /etc/default/grub to GRUB_GFXMODE="1920x1080" and run sudo update-grub?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> aneks: can your screen do that res during grub?
[16:03] <ideas-hub> here
[16:03] <ideas-hub> heres the log
[16:03] <ideas-hub> [    18.480]
[16:03] <ideas-hub> X.Org X Server 1.11.3
[16:03] <ideas-hub> Release Date: 2011-12-16
[16:03] <ideas-hub> [    18.480] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[16:03] <ideas-hub> [    18.480] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-29-server i686 Ubuntu
[16:03] <FloodBot1> ideas-hub: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <Corey> Jeez, don't paste logs into here. Really, this is basic, ideas-hub.
[16:03] <wdonkey> hahahahahaha
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: that is a Hardy kernel
[16:04] <arianit> Hi, Unity option has disappeared from LightDM screen after I installed and remove Gnome 3.8 PPA
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: Hardy is EOL on the desktop
[16:04] <wdonkey> when he said "heres the log" i was waiting for it
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub:  a LONG time ago
[16:04] <aneks> ActionParsnip, no idea, I'm running Ubuntu on it's own and grub doesn't really show up on boot, but when I'm shutting down the screen is shrunk to maybe 640x480 or so
[16:04] <ideas-hub> hallo
[16:04] <ideas-hub> am i back on
[16:04] <Corey> !hardy
[16:05] <Corey> ideas-hub: You are.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> aneks: then why set it if you have no idea?
[16:05] <ideas-hub> good
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: Hardy is EOL
[16:05] <ses1984> i'm trying to install 12.04 64 from a netboot install, i can boot into the installer
[16:05] <ses1984> but after selecting a mirror and getting to the "download installer components" step, i just get a blank purple screen and nothing happens
[16:05] <stree> they enable netboot for the driver is working ok
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: its support ended in May 11, 2011
[16:05] <ideas-hub> ok whats that
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: Hard is Ubuntu 8.04
[16:05] <ses1984> if i drop into a shell and cat /var/log/syslog it looks like net-retriever gets and checks three keys, says they're good, then does nothing
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> *hardy
[16:06] <aneks> ActionParsnip, I did a reboot and pressed shift to load grub, went into the grub cli mode and did vbeinfo, 1920x1080 is one of the supported modes, that's why I changed it.
[16:06] <Corey> ideas-hub: There have been... nine versions of Ubuntu released since Hardy. :-)
[16:06] <ideas-hub> cant be
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: it is no longer supported in any way
[16:06] <ideas-hub> i used a ubuntu 11 cd
[16:07] <ideas-hub> anyway
[16:07] <wdonkey> you've been lied to ideas-hub
[16:07] <stree> but there anyway to do with fedora 18 pausing?
[16:07] <compex> how come gedit in the repos is so old T_T
[16:07] <johnjohn101> 5 years since 8.04 was released.  linux/ubuntu is much much improved
[16:07] <ideas-hub> i guess its code for new distro]
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: it is the hardy kernel, so you will need to get the kernel for your release, or you are using Hardy
[16:07] <Corey> ideas-hub: What you're asking for is the equivalent of support for Windows98. :-)
[16:07] <stree> a gui asking for a reasonable amount of time?
[16:08] <ideas-hub> huh
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> aneks: run:    sudo apt-get install v86d hwinfo; sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[16:08] <compex> anyone know if I can get the deb for a more recent release of gedit? I don't want to compile from source.. google hasn't been helpful
[16:08] <Corey> compex: What about launchpad's search?
[16:08] <bmxscott1993> how do i get my second hard drive to stay mounted
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | compex
[16:08] <ideas-hub> ok your confusing me now
[16:08] <bmxscott1993> when tuning off and on
[16:08] <adamk_> ideas-hub, That log file was from the machine where the game works fine?
[16:08] <Corey> ideas-hub: cat /etc/issue says what?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993: add it in /etc/fstab and it will mount (well, the partition will mount, you can't mount drives)
[16:09] <Malimbar> Alright, here is the error message Backup is giving me: http://pastebin.com/MQpiTS4y
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: read the top few lines of your own output
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: "2.6.24-29-server " yes?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=2.6.24-29-server%20ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: see it has 'Hardy' written all over it?
[16:10] <greedhxh> ..
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases   here is a list of future, supported and not-supported releases https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:10] <adamk_> To be fair, that's the build operating system, not necessarily the running operating system.
[16:10] <ideas-hub> ok can you translate that to english please
[16:10] <aneks> ActionParsnip, just did, what's it supposed to do?
[16:10] <ideas-hub> not machine code
[16:10] <BluesKaj> bmxscott1993, do a sudo fdisk -l find the /dev/sdX assigned to it and then run blkid for the UUID and it as an entry in your /etc/fstab file
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: its not machine code in any way
[16:10] <netlar> I just got a bluetooth 4.0 adapter, Is there a resource for configuring it on 13.04?
[16:10] <ideas-hub> it is to me
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: you are usin gan ancient release which is no longer supported in any way
[16:11] <ideas-hub> brb
[16:11] <adamk_> ideas-hub, Use http://pastebin.com/ to show us the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from the machine where the game works.  Do *not* paste it here.
[16:11] <stree> didnt grep drv /var/log/xorg
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> aneks: it shows the resolution you can do in framebuffer mode
[16:11] <stree> the framebuffer
[16:11] <ideas-hub> ok back
[16:11] <ideas-hub> that was it
[16:12] <ideas-hub> and that was the machine using mint
[16:12] <ideas-hub> 13
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: mint isnt supported here
[16:12] <ideas-hub> thats fine
[16:12] <ideas-hub> cos this one here is ubuntu
[16:12] <adamk_> ideas-hub, So the game works fine in Mint, but not Ubuntu.  Then you need to see what the difference is in the software between those two machines.
[16:13] <ideas-hub> it worked fine here aswell
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: maybe the newer xorg in the newer versions doesn't like your GPU
[16:13] <ideas-hub> before i removed the external gpu
[16:13] <aneks> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/W9qdHWWK that's what I get
[16:13] <ideas-hub> or maybe the game didnt adapt to the onboard one
[16:13] <Juular> there is a WD 1TB external power hard drive that will not show any file and folder when u enter in it but it give back a report that you have 800MB free . so i want my movies back can anyone help ?
[16:14] <adamk_> ideas-hub, So you've already determined that the intel GPU can't run the game, but the external one can.  So what are you asking for help with?
[16:14] <ideas-hub> eg (gpu 1 = 1024,768   gpu 0 = 800 ,600)
[16:14] <Malimbar> no ideas on what Backup is doing then?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> aneks: the highest res you can do in framebuffer mode is 1280x800 , not 1920x1080
[16:14] <ideas-hub> yea
[16:15] <ideas-hub> but the mint pc does run it
[16:15] <ideas-hub> and thats at 800 , 600
[16:15] <ideas-hub> res
[16:15] <adamk_> ideas-hub, So, again, find out what the difference in software is between those machines.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ideas-hub: maybe the xorg version like the gpu and acn do it
[16:15] <aneks> ActionParsnip, so the line should be GRUB_GFXMODE="1280x800" instead? :)
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Juular: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe remove feature
[16:16] <Juular> ActionParsnip: nope :'(
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> aneks: yes as that is as high as you can go....you can't just choose what you want without seeing what is possible
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Juular: thats why then you are mistreating your hardware
[16:17] <ruby_on_tails> how can i remove the history of commands i typed in my terminal?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Juular: plug it back in to the system (Windows if it is NTFS) and chkdsk the partition, then in the system tray, use the safe eject feature and you will find its ok
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: delete the ~/.bash_history    file
[16:17] <aneks> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[16:17] <Aison> after upgrade to raring two of my four upgraded machines show just a blinking underline after grub
[16:17] <Aison> any idea?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: then touch it to recreate it :)
[16:18] <ruby_on_tails> Aison: i just typed a password in the terminal
[16:18] <Juular> ActionParsnip: window$ keepo telling me format the hard ?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Juular: not good
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Juular: this is WHY the feature is there. It's not there for kicks
[16:18] <ruby_on_tails> ok i deleted that entry
[16:18] <ruby_on_tails> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: that works too ;)
[16:19] <ideas-hub> ok this one is 1.7.6.7
[16:19] <ideas-hub> the mint pc is 1.7.6.12
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Juular: you could try foremost on the partition, you will need another 1Tb space to spit any and all file to as they are found. You will lose folder and file data but the files may be ok
[16:20] <ideas-hub> hallo
[16:20] <ideas-hub> ok
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Juular: or just use your backups
[16:20] <ideas-hub> brb need a crap
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Juular: I assume you have a backup
[16:21] <OerHeks> ideas-hub check xorg version  >  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:21] <balls> hey
[16:23] <balls> how can I speed ubutu up
[16:23] <Juular> ActionParsnip: condolences to myself . idont have any backups . so i think i will loose some right ?
[16:23] <balls> i have 2gb system memory
[16:23] <ses1984> i'm trying to install 12.04 64 (also tried on 11.10) from a netboot install, i can boot into the installer
[16:23] <ideas-hub> on this one or the mint one
[16:23] <ses1984> but after selecting a mirror and getting to the "download installer components" step, i just get a blank purple screen and nothing happens
[16:23] <balls> i gave it 564mb og ram, it runs in virtualbox
[16:23] <balls> of ram*
[16:23] <ses1984> here are the logs (for 11.10 attempt) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623132/
[16:23] <ideas-hub> this one = ubuntu
[16:24] <balls> ubuntu 13.4, desktop edition, just installed it
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Juular: if foremost doesn't do well, then yes
[16:24] <Juular> ActionParsnip: thanks for your adve
[16:24] <Juular> avice *
[16:24] <Juular> advice**
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> balls: try using a lighter deskto psession like LXDE
[16:25] <ideas-hub> this is wasting my time
[16:25] <ideas-hub> dont bother
[16:25] <ideas-hub> ill try and fix it myself
[16:25] <lemin> ideas-hub: what is
[16:26] <Corey> Juular: A cheap lesson on the value of backups. :-)
[16:27] <lemin> Corey: what is
[16:27] <Juular> Corey: yes thats true
[16:28] <Corey> lemin: Try to keep up. :-)
[16:29] <lemin> :)
[16:30] <umib0zu> anyone here know a good open source flash editor?
[16:30] <Tex_Nick> 13.04 with Gnome-Fallback Desktop ... occassionally i'm unable to minimize a window with the window minimize button ... i have to right click on the window tab on the bottom panel and choose unmaximize ... this is happening on two different PC's and a variety of applications ... is this happening to anyone else ?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: the fallback is full of weirdness like that
[16:31] <lemin> So true
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> So, I have had a loss of suspend in raring, had it previously, kernel 3.8.0-19 seems to be the culprit, not sure how, lol.
[16:32] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : lol ... guess i just need to wait for a fix ... BTW haven't chatted with you in a while ... hope all goes well with you :-)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: if you use xfce, you will get a familiar 2 panel session without all the wierd fallback weirdness
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: you can installl xfce4 and get a minimal xfce session, your gnome apps will run without issue
[16:33] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : ok thanks for the tip ... i'll give that a try :-)
[16:34] <burning_man> hello. my wifi-connection is very unstable. i've got an intel wifi link 5100 AGN, n-mode disabled, connected to a tp-link AP (current firmware) with wpa2/aes encryption. any ideas?
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> Additionally early on this suspend problem was fixed with the removal of /etc/pm/sleep.d this has not worked. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104119
[16:36] <Corey> burning_man: Are other devices also unstable on that AP?
[16:37] <Corey> burning_man: Also check logs. Are you sure you're disassociating, or is it possibly that your connection itself is crappy?  Fault isolation. :-)
[16:37] <Toph2> in ubuntu 12.04, when i suspend (power management settings) the computer, downloads happening aren't recognized as active and are disrupted when it suspends,, how do I change that other than never suspending?
[16:37] <jhutchins_wk> burning_man: Wifi is inherently unstable.  There's not a lot you can do in software to improve it.  Possibly relocate or reorient the AP.
[16:38] <jhutchins_wk> burning_man: Possibly try using a different channel.
[16:38] <burning_man> no, Corey - my other devices are not unstable
[16:39] <jhutchins_wk> Toph2: You need to figure out what suspending actually does.  You can't suspend and have downloads continue, it doesn't work that way.
[16:39] <Toph2> jhattara,,, is there a workabout?
[16:40] <burning_man> jhutchins_wk, Corey - it runs fine with windows 7 on the same device
[16:41] <abdou> hi
[16:54] <Sazpaimon_> is there any way to make a synaptics touchpad work simmilarly to how it does on windows?
[16:56] <Sazpaimon_> I managed to get circular and two finger scrolling activated, but it's not very clean, I need to make much wider circles and the amount by which it scrolls is way too much
[16:56] <Sazpaimon_> also, when a second display is hooked up, the accelleration goes crazy
[17:02] <Meris> Running Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit (Unity 3D) I want to specifiy an application that is not listed in the Nautilus list after "Open With". Normally I can browse to open a certain application, but Ubuntu does not show that option with .air files. I have installed Adobe Air, but it does a) not appear on the list of applications. b) Nautilus does not let me browse to a certain location. These restrictions make me mad.
[17:02] <GeminiDomino> I'm trying to set up postfix with SMTP AUTH on 12.04 but the guide on help.ubuntu.com seems to be out of date with regard to dovecot configuration. Does anyone know of another resource?
[17:03] <bazhang> #dovecot and #postfix GeminiDomino
[17:04] <bazhang> Meris, did you mean MIME types?
[17:05] <h00k> GeminiDomino: you may want to try #ubuntu-server as well
[17:05] <GeminiDomino> Thanks
[17:05] <Meris> bazhang, it does show up as a MIME type yes, but I want to be in full control here. I want to choose an application that is *not* listed in the app list.
[17:06] <bazhang> Meris, and where is air installed
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> Meris  from the Adobe website : "Note: Beginning June 14 2011, Adobe AIR is no longer supported for desktop Linux distributions."
[17:07] <Meris> bazhang, Adobe Air is installed in /opt/Adobe AIR I believe the binary that runs the abomination is called libCore.so
[17:08] <Enemtee> hello, i'm having a problem with getting sound from hdmi to another source in 13.04, what's the best solution?
[17:09] <Meris> MonkeyDust, I know. But no matter what kind of file I want to open. *I* want to be in full control. I don't need Nautilus hiding options I want to see. I'm used to this kind of behaviour on Windows and MacOSX. It is one of the prime reasons I switched to a Linux environment. I want to be in control, All the time.
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> Meris  ask the developpers (how) to implement it in nautilus - /join #ubuntu-app-devel may be useful
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Meris  or submit the idea in !brainstorm
[17:11] <Meris> MonkeyDust, sorry, I have neither the knowledge nor the time to make that happen.
[17:11] <trism> Meris: you can add and remove assocations with ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list , had to use it recently to remove a couple assocations that aren't listed in the nautilus properties anymore
[17:11] <rAg3nix> i want to run a command automatically when i lock the screen , any idea how i can do that ?
[17:11] <Meris> MonkeyDust, trism, thank you trism. Much obliged. I'll get cracking.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> Meris  linux is open source, no need to crack
[17:13] <Meris> MonkeyDust, It's just a matter of expression in British English, not related at all to cracking software or (remote) systems.
[17:13] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: AdobeAir for linux, is a dead project... i'm not sure how much interest they'll get for implementing features/fixing bugs for it...  just sayin'
[17:14] <daincredibleholg> hi
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Meris  hope you can get it done, sounds interesting
[17:14] <rAg3nix> i want to run a command automatically when i lock/unlock the screen , any idea how i can do that ?
[17:14] <Meris> zykotick9, yes, unfortunately, some developers took the easy way out and developed for the abomination that is Adobe Air. The programs themselves are beautiful and very useful, but the system below it stinks. Same with DotNet.
[17:15] <Meris> MonkeyDust, I think I'll get it done using trism's advice.
[17:16] <daincredibleholg> i have a server runing ubuntu 12.04 that hosts a virtualbox installation. in this virtualbox I have a ubuntu 12.10 server that should be available via ipv6. the host has ipv6 connectivity thru tunnelbroker.net (HE). This works. I followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Configure_your_Ubuntu_box_as_a_IPv6_router but it does not work.
[17:16] <daincredibleholg> the guest system get's a ipv6
[17:16] <daincredibleholg> but it cannot ping thru ipv6 and I can not ping it itself.
[17:16] <daincredibleholg> any ideas?
[17:16] <daincredibleholg> on the guest system no iptables are running
[17:18] <NERDUS> Hi guys
[17:18] <shad0w1e> hi- will [ -t 1 ] return false in a boot init script? This is on 12.04. thanks
[17:21] <rAg3nix> i want to run a command automatically when i lock/unlock the screen , any idea how i can do that ?
[17:22] <houser> why do i have to execute the command synclient TouchpadOff=1 a randum number of times from 5 to 100 before the touchpad is actually being disabled?
[17:22] <hipsterZues> quit
[17:24] <agliodbs> hey, I'm on quantal and I just accidentally deleted my /etc/apt/sources.list file.  where can I find a copy of the file as originally installed?  or is there an easier way to restore it?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> agliodbs  try deleting the config file(s) in .config
[17:26] <decci> I just installed Xrdp on my linux desktop  but after i tried to connect with RDP i got the following problem:  desktop doesnt load, and see a granular screen
[17:26] <decci> http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130501/Screen_shot_2013-05-01_at_5.11.50_PM_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png
[17:27] <decci> any idea how to fix it?
[17:27] <agliodbs> MonkeyDust: .config where?
[17:27] <agliodbs> and why would deleting them help?
[17:28] <compdoc> decci, I think the only way to ake it work is by installing gnome-session-fallback
[17:29] <decci> compdoc: What all package do I need?
[17:29] <ebernhardson> i have two screens, i would really like to remove the unity sidebar thingie from the second screen so its only on the first, how can i do that?
[17:29] <compdoc> decci, sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[17:29] <decci> compdoc: Let me try
[17:31] <compdoc> decci, I couldnt get vnc to work for 12.11 or 13.04, but I found a website to automatically install xrdp and x11rdp, and I think all it did differenly that what I did was to install gnome-session-fallback. the site is:  http://scarygliders.net/2012/06/20/x11rdp-o-matic-and-rdpsesconfig-version-2/
[17:32] <madprops> for some reason my ubuntu is not simply werking. my update manager asks me to install updates, i click yes, window disappears, it reappears after some time asking to install the same updates
[17:32] <ebernhardson>  well .. i guess will just brute force then (metacity --replace) until i can figure it out later
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> agliodbs  in ~/.config/
[17:33] <agliodbs> MonkeyDust: why would deleting files from there help?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> agliodbs  yes, from the appropriate folder, if it's there
[17:34] <compdoc> decci, I use the MS rdp client to connect now, and will probably switch all my servers to it
[17:35] <compdoc> its pretty nice
[17:35] <Corey> madprops: Force it with apt-get instead.
[17:36] <Meris> bazhang, MonkeyDust, actually the binary blob installer didn't tell where it installed it's files. I was looking at an earlier Air 1.0 install.  No matter, I'll find it out eventually...
[17:37] <anew> how can i search for a file from cli in ubuntu?
[17:37] <jrib> anew: locate or find
[17:37] <anew> find file.whatever
[17:37] <shasha_> lubuntu che demone grafico usa?
[17:37] <zykotick9> anew: "find / -iname foo" will search all of / for upper&lower case foo
[17:37] <Meris> !it | shasha_
[17:37] <anew> cool thx
[17:38] <shasha_> ops sorry wrong click
[17:38] <anew> buongiorno!
[17:38] <anew> lol
[17:38] <zykotick9> anew: you also might want to add " 2>/dev/null" at the end, to get rid of errors
[17:38] <shasha_> what graphic deamon use lubuntu?
[17:39] <Meris> shasha_, Could you elaborate what you mean with daemon here? Do you mean the X-Server, the Window Manager the Desktop Environment or something else?
[17:40] <shasha_> Meris: i mean X-Server
[17:40] <shasha_> Meris: and desktop enviroment
[17:40] <mynt> Does anyone recognize this symbol? I saw it at linux fest northwest and I'm trying to identify it. http://imgur.com/iys9cnL
[17:40] <Meris> shasha_, Lubuntu uses LXDE as DEsktop Environment on top of OpenBox as Window Manager. The X-Server is just X.org
[17:41] <aguitel>   how is running "mate desktop enviroment " in ubuntu ?
[17:42] <OerHeks> aquitel mate is not in the repo's, its a mint DE
[17:43] <olegb> aguitel: google says http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-mate-14-desktop-in-ubuntu.html (and alot of other hits)
[17:44] <Meris> aguitel, there is probably a ppa for mate that works on ubuntu. No support though.
[17:46] <aguitel> Meris, ok
[17:48] <tute> hello, i have a question about running software on ubuntu, but i'm not sure if this is the place to ask. i'm running ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS, and i'm trying to get wine to install. i tried installing wine1.3, wine1.4, and wine1.5, from both the software center and from the terminal. im getting this error in the terminal when i try to install wine1.5 http://pastebin.com/DvevPxN0
[17:48] <tute> does anybody have any idea what i can do to get it to install?
[17:49] <Sazpaimon_> alright, back to windows I guess. This touchpad behavior is making it unusable
[17:50] <agliodbs> MonkeyDust: I found a better solution: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php
[17:50] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: what hardware?
[17:51] <Sazpaimon_> agliodbs, synaptics
[17:51] <ghyths> hello guys
[17:51] <Sazpaimon_> circular scrolling scrolls too fast, and when I plug in a second display, the movement speed goes haywire
[17:51] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: what computer?
[17:52] <Sazpaimon_> sager NP9170
[17:52] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: I'm using an ASUS with a synaptics touchpad, works great
[17:52] <agliodbs> although IIRC I had to tweak it
[17:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:52] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: look for guides on tweaking the ASUS Zenbook for Ubuntu
[17:52] <agliodbs> there's a few, and I know the touchpad was addresse
[17:53] <Sazpaimon_> agliodbs, I've already done a bunch of tweaking to even get circular scrolling to work
[17:53] <agliodbs> circular scrolling?
[17:53] <Sazpaimon_> I still cannot resolve the fact that the horizontal speed goes crazy when plugging in a second display and moving it to the side
[17:53] <Sazpaimon_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Circular_Scrolling
[17:54] <Sazpaimon_> also, the motions I need to make to get circular scrolling to work is not good at all, compared to windows
[17:54] <pierce> so something I installed pulled in nvidia dependencies on my intel graphics laptop, and now even after removing nvidia stuff, GLX is still way broken.  Anyone have any magical suggestions?
[17:55] <Sazpaimon_> no matter what I set the delta to, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
[17:55] <Sazpaimon_> but more than anything, the horizontal speed when having a second display is the biggest issue
[17:56] <Jays> Hi
[17:56] <Sazpaimon_> Jays, please dont PM me
[17:56] <Jays> Sorry m new.
[17:57] <swazzy_> hey guys
[17:57] <bjorkintosh> i use the shell quite often, and i had guake installed, but it fails to work in unity.
[17:57] <bjorkintosh> is there a replacement for that?
[17:57] <daftykins> ! hi| Jays
[17:57] <daftykins> whoops
[17:57] <daftykins> !hi| Jays
[17:57] <Jays> Hey
[17:57] <daftykins> oh man it's a fail kind of day
[17:57] <Pici> daftykins: psst, there is no !hi
[17:57] <daftykins> aww :(
[17:58] <daftykins> it's been so long i'm remembering other channels' bots
[17:58] <daftykins> not even a welcome?
[17:58] <swazzy_> i have a small problem. in my media dir i have a problem mounting one of my hdd?
[17:58] <Jays> Welcome daftykins
[17:58] <Pici> daftykins: You can say "hi" yourself :)
[17:58] <daftykins> Pici: don't be so patronising :P
[17:58] <Jays> daftykins: Reply hm
[17:59] <daftykins> anyway, if you have a question ask away in here Jays
[17:59] <Jays> Ok
[17:59] <daftykins> that be how it works!
[18:01] <swazzy_> it just says usb0 but it's not a usb it's an internal hdd
[18:01] <Jays> Hi
[18:01] <swazzy_> slave drive for storage
[18:02] <swazzy_> how do fix this problem?
[18:02] <djQuery> dang both rhythmbox and banshee keep crashing when trying to synch with my lg spirit
[18:02] <doc_tuna> ?DCC CHAT ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
[18:02] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[18:03] <daftykins> swazzy_: are you familiar with the command line?
[18:03] <bjorkintosh> n/m i found my answer.
[18:04] <madprops> daftykins, what is that?
[18:04] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: oh.  I use two-finger scolling, whichi works fine
[18:04] <daftykins> madprops: -_-
[18:05] <daftykins> swazzy_: ...
[18:05] <swazzy_> yes
[18:06] <daftykins> swazzy_: are you familiar with the command line? to help fix your drive problem
[18:06] <tute> how long does it generally take for a question to be answered here?
[18:06] <swazzy_> some what
[18:06] <Sazpaimon_> agliodbs, and do you not run into the dual screen issue?
[18:06] <tgm4883> tute, depends on the question
[18:06] <daftykins> swazzy_: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "df -h" please
[18:06] <Sazpaimon_> or do you not use dual screens?
[18:07] <tute> tgm4883: about 10 minutes ago i asked a question about getting wine running on ubuntu
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> tute  10 minutes, that's 500 lines of text
[18:08] <tgm4883> MonkeyDust, it was actually 20 minutes ago
[18:08] <swazzy_> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[18:08] <swazzy_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156301488 sectors
[18:08] <swazzy_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[18:08] <swazzy_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:08] <swazzy_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:08] <FloodBot1> swazzy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <swazzy_> Disk identifier: 0x00099cd9
[18:08] <Jays> Lol
[18:08] <daftykins> go go gadget pastebin
[18:08] <tgm4883> tute, looks like repo's not synced maybe
[18:08] <mike21491> it's not the old-school lenovo
[18:08] <genii-around> Looks like a pretty old hd
[18:08] <tgm4883> tute, I'd try a 'apt-get -f install' and see what it tries to do
[18:08] <tute> ok
[18:09] <tute> tgm4883: didnt do anything
[18:11] <Ponch0> I have ubuntu gnome remix 13.04, is it normal that I don't have the privacy tab in settings?
[18:11] <Myrtti> !pastebin | swazzy_, Floodbots are bots, they can't help you.
[18:11] <tgm4883> Ponch0, I would think so
[18:11] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623482/
[18:12] <Ponch0> thanks
[18:12] <daftykins> swazzy_: so can you tell which drive is which? looks like you have a Windows NTFS partition on all 3
[18:13] <tgm4883> Ponch0, since gnome remix isn't done by canonical, and the privacy stuff is for Unity lenses
[18:13] <daftykins> i see 1 x 80GB Windows, 1 x 200GB Windows, 1 x 160GB Windows and Linux
[18:13] <swazzy_> indeed
[18:13] <daftykins> swazzy_: which one do you want to be your storage then? :>
[18:13] <swazzy_> i have named my hdd media boxx, media boxxx
[18:15] <mike21491> serstovik
[18:15] <mike21491> jono
[18:15] <k1l> mike21491: no bot/scripts in here please
[18:15] <mike21491> no problem friend
[18:16] <swazzy_> but my hdd mounts but its says usb0
[18:17] <Jays> Bi
[18:18] <daftykins> swazzy_: hmm, is it one of those 3 then?
[18:18] <tute> does anybody in here have any experience with wine on ubuntu 12.04
[18:18] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623504/
[18:18] <k1l> tute: sure people have experience with wine. just ask a specific question but be aware of that:
[18:19] <k1l> !wine | tute
[18:19] <swazzy_> both i have two of them media boxx and media boxxx
[18:19] <tute> k1l: i asked a couple times and got no response. my question is pretty general. i want to know why it's not installing on my machine
[18:19] <tute> k1l: i posted a log from trying to install 1.5 from terminal, one sec
[18:19] <swazzy_> one mounts properly but the other does not
[18:20] <Jays> Hu all
[18:20] <tute> k1l: http://pastebin.com/DvevPxN0
[18:20] <Jays> Quit clowning around
[18:20] <daftykins> swazzy_: so it's /dev/sda1. that's one messed up disk+partition setup you have there
[18:21] <adamk_> tute, Are you using any 3rd party repos?
[18:21] <tute> adamk_: nope, the only other repo i used besides default are what most tutorials told me to use, ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[18:22] <adamk_> So you are using a 3rd party repo :-)
[18:22] <tute> adamk_: and i only added that one after trying it without adding that repo and failing
[18:22] <tute> adamk_: didnt know that was 3rd party. i only used it because it wouldnt work without it (and its still not working)
[18:22] <k1l> tute: so this is a 3rd party repo. better ask that maintainer what is wrong with his packages
[18:22] <tute> k1l: see my response to adamk, it didnt work without that repo either, i got the same error
[18:23] <swazzy_> brb im gonna paste another so u can see what's really going on
[18:23] <adamk_> tute, Did you try 'apt-get -f install' before adding the wine ppa?
[18:23] <k1l> tute: show a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a pastebin
[18:24] <tute> adamk_: yes i did, and k1l ok
[18:24] <pierce> apt-get purge nvidia-*   fixed my GLX issues (yay)
[18:25] <mcnesium> my phpmyadmin problem i stated earlier seems to be a problem with the symlinks in ubuntu 13.04: http://superuser.com/questions/590208/phpmyadmin-symlinks-error-after-upbuntu-upgrade --- are there any other reports that there are problems with symlinks ?
[18:25] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623524/
[18:25] <tute> k1l: oh i didnt do an upgrade earlier, only an update.too much text for my scrollback buffer, let me finish this update first then ill do it again and paste
[18:26] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623526/
[18:27] <swazzy_> do you see what i was talking about?
[18:27] <niranjan> Trying to install 13.04 on virtual box, installer is stuck at retrieving 40/102 files
[18:28] <niranjan> This is second try, first try also got stuck at same location
[18:28] <swazzy_> /dev/sdb1
[18:28] <k1l> mike21491: did you turn off that bot?
[18:29] <swazzy_> instead of having /media/Media boxxx it has /media/usb0
[18:29] <daftykins> niranjan: is your ISO corrupt?
[18:30] <daftykins> swazzy_: i don't see any mention of USB at all
[18:30] <niranjan> daftykins: It's possible, but for second try, downloaded it again from ubuntu website. Will give it another try
[18:30] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623526/
[18:31] <daftykins> niranjan: hash the file against the hashes online to double check
[18:31] <niranjan> daftykins:Thanks, will confirm again
[18:32] <swazzy_> dafty so u see it now?
[18:32] <daftykins> swazzy_: that's a different partition on a different drive
[18:33] <daftykins> swazzy_: maybe you used to use it as an external and so it's mounting it to /media/usb0 ?
[18:34] <swazzy_> thats the problem it's suppose to say media boxxx
[18:35] <daftykins> swazzy_: the other partition already does
[18:35] <daftykins> /dev/sda1                                               76710908  13950928  62759980  19% /media/Media Boxx
[18:35] <daftykins> /dev/sdb1                                              199141708 165559924  33581784  84% /media/usb0
[18:35] <daftykins> they're two different partitions on two different drives :D
[18:35] <bugtraq> omg
[18:36] <daftykins> omg
[18:36] <bugtraq> sorry estoy probando el bugtraq
[18:37] <swazzy_> right but i named the other one media boxxx i just added another x to it
[18:37] <swazzy_> so why is it saying /media/usb0 instead of media boxxx?
[18:38] <daftykins> swazzy_: *shrug* where are you typing these names?
[18:38] <swazzy_> lol
[18:39] <daftykins> anyways it's food o'clock here in BST land
[18:39] <swazzy_> so it won't be difficult for me to know which one is which
[18:39] <swazzy_> so i named my hdd
[18:40] <swazzy_> i don't think naming my hdd is the problem
[18:42] <mike21491> sendaljepit
[18:42] <swazzy_> but when i go to my media dir and throw the usb0 dir to the trash dir that's when it doesn't mount
[18:44] <vlad_starkov> Question: What is the best pretty safest method to upgrade LTS distr? sudo apt-get upgrade OR sudo aptitude upgrade ?
[18:45] <kmicu> Any PPA with Perl 5.16 for raring?
[18:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10, and can not connect to Internet with cable. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:46] <emx> is there a cache-directory where ubuntu stores temporary files in that i can delete to gain some space on th harddrive?
[18:46] <decci> Any idea how to Install a Touchscreen driver in my Ubuntu 12.04
[18:48] <gdoteof> so I put 13.04 on my buddy's laptop, an upgrade not a fresh install.  he is getting what appears to be totally random crashes/shutdowns..
[18:48] <yeats> emx: this thread has some tips: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space
[18:48] <gdoteof> best i can do is : http://i.imgur.com/QR4vIus.jpg
[18:48] <gdoteof> is anyone experiencing anything similar or have any idea what's going on
[18:48] <gdoteof> its a dell inspiron
[18:52] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10, and can not connect to Internet with cable. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:52] <mojtaba> Should I re-install a driver or something?
[18:53] <jdale> hi all
[18:53] <jdale> mojtaba: no
[18:53] <jdale> ethernet drivers are pre included
[18:53] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10, and can not connect to Internet with cable. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> mojtaba, patebin , ifconfig
[18:54] <mojtaba> BluesKaj: I am currently connected to the internet with wireless.
[18:54] <BluesKaj> mojtaba, and don't keep repeating your question
[18:54] <mojtaba> BluesKaj: ok
[18:54] <jdale> MoTec:  check your cable
[18:55] <mojtaba> jdale: I have test it before.
[18:55] <jdale> ..
[18:55] <jdale> try it again
[18:55] <sdglsdgkjgda> My touchpad left click stops working after a while on my laptop, and is only fixed by a reboot. What could be going on?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> jdale, this is 2nd or 3rd time he's been here with this problem
[18:56] <emx> yeats, thanks
[18:57] <emx> apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.5.* <-- i gained 1.4 GiB space (!)
[18:57] <groober> hello. the gist: i need to get ubuntu on my flash drive. currently on os x. only CLI installation
[18:57] <groober> guide at: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:57] <emx> it should be hardcoded in the package manager that unused kernels are removed (maybe keeping the last one for fallback)
[18:58] <groober> i'm stuck at executing dd. error "/bin/dd: /bin/dd: cannot execute binary file"
[19:03] <Neytiri> hi i have a new 2 day old install of 12.04 and it booted 2 times now i cant get the system to boot, something about unsabel to mount root FS, even safemode cant boot the system
[19:03] <mike21491> it just freezes when i have no problems on my windows partition
[19:03] <jdale> hm Neytiri  did you sledt Hindi os that your main language ?
[19:03] <jdale> select
[19:05] <Neytiri> 12.04 is my main and ONLY os installed onthis sytem
[19:05] <groober> hope repeating doesn't hurt. the gist: i need to get ubuntu on my flash drive. currently on os x. only CLI installation
[19:05] <groober> guide at: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:05] <groober> i'm stuck at executing dd. error "/bin/dd: /bin/dd: cannot execute binary file"
[19:09] <lemin> My stuff
[19:10] <Neytiri> what can i do to get my system to boot again?
[19:11] <lemin> Neytiri: power it down
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Neytiri, can you describe what's happening or not happening
[19:12] <codepython777> any upstart users here who can give me some help on using it.
[19:12] <Neytiri> i  rebooted my system, after a update, and now it cant mount the root fs, i tried in safemode and still no luck
[19:12] <lemin> Neytiri: just restart
[19:13] <Neytiri> and lemin youe comments in my private message are not helpful,  i tried restarting several times before comming here after boting up via live cd
[19:13] <DJones> !behelpful | lemin
[19:14] <BluesKaj> Neytiri, have you tried nomodeset ?
[19:14] <Neytiri> no, how would i try that?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | Neytiri
[19:16] <Neytiri> ah, but would that keep it from mounting the foor fs, after a kernl update
[19:18] <Neytiri> well its worth a shot i'll be back in a min after testing it
[19:20] <redj_> hey there. having a problem on mbp running 12.10 where when I try to ping it does the dns lookup fine but then i get no packets back
[19:21] <ovando> Hola a todos los linuxeros
[19:21] <bekks> redj_: How do you check wether you actually get packets back?
[19:21] <redj_> 100% packet loss after i ended the ping
[19:21] <Diesel3000> Is there a command that I can use through the shell of a live boot cd to install ubuntu?
[19:22] <Dr_willis> Diesel3000,  you want a text based installer you mean?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> Diesel3000, why ?
[19:22] <redj_> any ideas why the dns would be okay but ping would fail?
[19:22] <bekks> redj_: Some firewall blocking it.
[19:22] <Dr_willis> Ping requests can be filtered out by the other machines firewallsettings
[19:22] <meet> can pidgin me made to integrate with gnome 3 as good as empathy?
[19:23] <Quest>  if the /home/user123 is encrypted (ubuntu) and shadows file is overwritten , the theif boots with the new password of user123 . will he access the /home/user123?
[19:23] <redj_> should i try traceroute to see where I'm caught?
[19:23] <mike21491> boo can you open up a chat window between us agan?
[19:23] <Diesel3000> Because im trying to load ubuntu 32 server to a old box I have though it wont copy from the live USB
[19:23] <Diesel3000> The computer that im using doesnt have a CD Drive for the install and fails using the USB
[19:24] <Dr_willis> Diesel3000,  the pc boots from the Server Install USB, but fails to install? but it does boot from a Desktop Install USB?
[19:25] <redj_> alright i'm going to do a traceroute and see where i get lost
[19:26] <Diesel3000> Dr_willis: I had loaded the USB using UNetbootin with the latest version of 32bit server the hard drive in the computer im trying to load to is brandnew after the check of the keyboard and during the fist start of the install process before it has you setup the network connections it fails. So im kinda in a rock and a hard place because I dont have a CD drive I can swap over to the old crashbox
[19:26] <Diesel3000> though I need the install of server
[19:26] <glassresistor> ok having a issue with 12.04 went in and installed cinnamon via ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable then went back to unity and its got no taskbar
[19:26] <Dr_willis> Diesel3000,  so you used Unetbootin to do a server install TO the first partition of the hard drive?
[19:27] <Diesel3000> I didnt even get that far, it said there was an issue with pulling the data from the USB and wouldnt allow me to move forward from there there
[19:28] <Dr_willis> So the USB was made incorectly, or the iso file used was 'bad'. Thats the core of the problem  Diesel3000 ?
[19:29] <Dr_willis> what was the exact error the  usb said when you booted it? theres some old issues with server installs from USB where it fails to see the ISO file on the usb
[19:29] <Diesel3000> I might assume. It will allow configuring of the network with DHCP as im trying again now.. standby
[19:30] <Neytiri> well that didnt work but i have  the actual error  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)        comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.5.0-27-generic
[19:31] <Neytiri> any idea what i can do to fix this?
[19:32] <slimer_> my internet down
[19:32] <Diesel3000> Dr_willis: looks like everything is on its way right now, wierd because on the first 3 installs I had nothing but a problem so we will see
[19:32] <wittybear> Just been hitting my head against a wall to do with permissions. Turns out that you need to log out/in again to change the groups you are a member of - there is no indication of this being necessary in the GUI tools or the command line tools. Shouldn't this get added?
[19:33] <groober> i need to get ubuntu on my flash drive. currently on os x.  guide at ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx stuck at step 8
[19:33] <groober> error: "dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied"
[19:33] <Dr_willis> wittybear,  seen this mentioned/asked befor..    not with gui tools however. You are corredt. when you change a users groups you MUST log out/back in for them to get changed
[19:33] <Neytiri> groober:  seems like you dont have permission to do that, try the comand with sudo
[19:34] <groober> i'm doing that with su
[19:34] <ggherdov> "would you like to install youtube for extra features and quicker access?" seriously, what's wrong with firefox on ubuntu? it's kind of annoying
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ggherdov,  its just asking to enable the youtube webapp icon.
[19:34] <groober> i'm not in sudoers, can't change right now
[19:34] <groober> but i have admin password, so su
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ggherdov,  webapps is a 'new' feature in 12.04+ i belive.   neat idea.. but dosent work that well
[19:35] <bekks> groober: by default, there is root/admin password in Ubuntu.
[19:35] <codepython777> is upstart installed by default on ubuntu?
[19:35] <wittybear> thanks Dr_willis... I might see if there is an open issue regarding this.... until you've run into the problem then its not obvious
[19:35] <Dr_willis> codepython777,  yes.
[19:35] <ggherdov> Dr_willis: ok
[19:35] <Jordan_U> groober: What is the exact command you're running?
[19:35] <bekks> groober: And even having the password for an account in sudoers, you would have to use sudo instead of su
[19:35] <Neytiri> I am getting this error on boot Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)        comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.5.0-27-generic
[19:36] <groober> su admin dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[19:36] <bd9021> hey im new to linux and ubuntu anyone willing to help
[19:36] <Dr_willis> bd9021,  state the problem and see who can help
[19:36] <bd9021> i cant get java to work without manually selecting it
[19:37] <groober> the error doing it is "/bin/dd: /bin/dd: cannot execute binary file"
[19:37] <Dr_willis> followed the guide at the !java factoid bd9021 ?
[19:37] <wittybear> bd9021.. what do you mean by "work"?
[19:37] <bd9021> how would i fix
[19:37] <Dr_willis> !java | bd9021
[19:37] <glassresistor> i install cinnamon and also played around with gnome classic on 12.04, i had to do unity --reset to get my panel back and now super only works if a window is open but not if cursor is over desktop
[19:38] <glassresistor> i think its still using a diferent application for the desktop
[19:38] <Jordan_U> groober: That's not how you use su. If you want to run a single command as root with su you would run something like this: su -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m" (note I have *not* checked to be sure that your dd command is correct, and dd can be dangerous).
[19:38] <bd9021> alright has anyone heard of bcache
[19:38] <Dr_willis> glassresistor,  try a 'compiz --replace'  ?
[19:38] <bekks> bd9021: Some people did.
[19:39] <bd9021> and by work i mean it have to select it manually to play minecraft it wont open auto
[19:39] <BluesKaj> oops , bouncer went down
[19:39] <Dr_willis> bd9021,  so your while issue is  getting Minecraft working and thats all?
[19:39] <Quest>  if the /home/user123 is encrypted (ubuntu) and shadows file is overwritten , the theif boots with the new password of user123 . will he access the /home/user123?
[19:39] <glassresistor> Dr_willis: just killed everything, in ttyl now
[19:39] <Jordan_U> Quest: No.
[19:39] <bd9021> well thats just my example there are a few java chat sites ii cant get to work
[19:40] <glassresistor> is the desktop still drawn by nautilus?
[19:40] <Quest> jordan,  why not
[19:40] <BluesKaj> codepython777, did you see the upstart factoid , my connrection dropped for a few
[19:40] <bd9021> i assume its cause java wont run auto
[19:40] <Dr_willis> bd9021,  well for minecraft - start with this guide perhaps. the others may work then.   http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/easily-install-minecraft-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:40] <bekks> Quest: Because he didnt change the password that was used to encrypt the hashes used for encryption.
[19:40] <bd9021> i guess i mean as a default
[19:41] <Dr_willis> glassresistor,  Nautilys handles the icons on the desktop. but it does not handle the 'superkey'  binding. thats a feature of the window manager. compiz normally.
[19:41] <Quest> bekks,  Jordan_U   rephrase:  if the /home/user123 is encrypted (ubuntu) and shadows file is overwritten , the theif boots with root account (with the new password) and changes password of user123 . will he access the /home/user123?
[19:42] <bekks> Quest: Again: No.
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Quest: Because the way that home directory encryption works is that there is a private key which is used to encrypt all of the files, and there is also a "wrapped" password encrypted version of that key stored. When you login, a PAM module passes your password to a process which uses it to decrypt that wrapped private key, and then uses the private key to decrypt the files. If you give a different password than the one the key is ...
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ... encrypte with then the private key will fail to decrypt, and thus you also won't be able to decrypt any files.
[19:43] <dryc-x> Hi
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Quest: The only way to successfully change the password of a user with an encrypted home directory is by entering their old password (or by knowing the private key used to encrypt their files, which you can generally only get by having the password).
[19:44] <wittybear> bd9021... is the file you have downloaded a jar file?
[19:44] <Quest> jordan,  so ignoreing the /etc/shadows file.        even in normal operations, if the root logs in and changes the password of user123  or su user123 and enters /home/user123 , he wont have acces to the files?  not even root?
[19:44] <wittybear> if so there is an article here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192914/how-run-a-jar-file-with-a-double-click
[19:45] <bekks> Quest: Correct.
[19:45] <Quest> Jordan_U,  how to get the private key used to encrypt their files
[19:45] <bekks> Quest: You have to know the users password.
[19:45] <bd9021> i know i doawnloaded it but its not showing in my downlaods folder
[19:46] <Quest> bekks,  so root cannot do ALL
[19:46] <nanvou> hello, I have a problem with upstart on Ubuntu 12.04 . Even though I submitted a "respaw" stanza, if the program terminate somehow, upstart won't reload it...
[19:46] <bekks> Quest: Correct.
[19:46] <Quest> bekks,  good for users, bad for root
[19:46] <Quest> ok
[19:46] <Quest> Jordan_U,  how to get the private key used to encrypt their files -- bekks
[19:46] <bekks> Quest: You have to know the users password.
[19:46] <Quest> bekks,  thats the only way?
[19:46] <bekks> Quest: Correct.
[19:47] <wittybear> night all!
[19:47] <groober> Jordan_U so it should be: su admin "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m"
[19:47] <jrib> Quest: so are you going to come here and ask this same question every month or what?
[19:47] <Quest> bekks,  Jordan_U  i assume that when the user123 will change his password himself. it will also change the private key and encrypted /homes keys.
[19:47] <Quest> jrib,  did i asked this before?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Quest: By using ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase (which requires the passphrase the key was wrapped with).
[19:47] <bekks> Quest: That depends on how the user changes his password - but yes, in general, the user willl change all passwords.
[19:48] <brandon-dacrib> I am having some trouble with pulseaudio after upgrading to 13.04 and was wondering if I could get some help
[19:48] <Quest> jrib,  must be a coleege then, we are working on security in office
[19:48] <jrib> Quest: you would know that
[19:48] <Guest31542> hello
[19:48] <Guest31542> I have one problem about install ubuntu 13.04. Can anyone help me?
[19:49] <groober> Guest31542: just ask
[19:49] <Jordan_U> Quest: If a user changes their password it will not change the private key, it will only rewrap the wrapped key file using a different password.
[19:49] <dryc-x> Guest31542, what is your problem>
[19:49] <Jordan_U> Quest: That way you don't need to decrypt and re-encrypt all your files every time you change your passphrase.
[19:50] <Quest> Jordan_U,  so at anytime the user can decrypt the /home by the old password also?
[19:50] <jrib> Quest: you may be interested in the log for this channel for april 7 2013 (just search for "Quest").  Might be helpful.  Feel free to discuss it here too; just stuck me as strange
[19:50] <bekks> Quest: No.
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Quest: No, the old wrapped passphrase is deleted when a user changes their password.
[19:50] <bekks> Quest: There is just one password thats used for wrapping the private key.
[19:50] <Quest> jrib,  Hm. i wont be, my colleege has his own research and that would be private for me
[19:51] <Quest> Jordan_U,  oh. nice
[19:51] <Quest> jordan,  bekks  jrib  one last question. does windows behave the same way? you change a file (overwrite etc/shadows) by a live cd or harddisk access and you enter the new password and login?
[19:52] <groober> running su imac "dd if=/Users/Sergio/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m"
[19:52] <bekks> Quest: Personally, I dont care how Windows does things.
[19:52] <groober> gives: No such file or directory
[19:52] <Neytiri> can someone please help me fix my system, I am getting this error on boot Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)        comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.5.0-27-generic
[19:52] <jrib> Quest: ##windows can help you with that
[19:52] <groober> i'm sure the file exist
[19:52] <bekks> Quest: And Windows doesnt have a etc/shadow.
[19:52] <Quest> thanks!
[19:52] <Quest> bekks,  well does it has a smilar way?
[19:53] <bekks> Quest: 0501 215207 < bekks> Quest: Personally, I dont care how Windows does things. :)
[19:53] <Guest31542> Ok. I have 2 phisycal SATA drives. /dev/sda is SATA2 and /dev/sdb is SATA3. I have Win8 installed on /dev/sdb. So I wish install ubuntu on /dev/sda. BUT! Installer offer me install ubuntu together with windows on /dev/sdb. However installer also want install GRUB on /dev/sda!
[19:53] <Rallias> So I've got a small problem... I just did an apt-get upgrade on my server, and now it's detecting a bunch of OS's I don't remember installing... how do I fix that?
[19:54] <Guest31542> I just can't change another hdd
[19:54] <Jordan_U> groober: No, it should be exactly the command I gave you.
[19:54] <nanvou> anyone on upstart ?
[19:54] <Rallias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623770/
[19:54] <bekks> !anyone | nanvou
[19:54] <Quest> bekks, ok
[19:54] <jrib> nanvou: i imagine most people are.  You should just ask your next question
[19:54] <nanvou> hello, I have a problem with upstart on Ubuntu 12.04 . Even though I submitted a "respaw" stanza, if the program terminate somehow, upstart won't reload it...
[19:55] <Guest31542> groober: so that is
[19:55] <nanvou> the program doesn't exit with "0" status
[19:55] <Big_Stupid> Hi, can anyone tell me how to check my system update history using the default software updater in ubuntu?
[19:55] <Rallias> OH derp... those are my LXC vm's.
[19:55] <nanvou> so it SHOULD be restarted, but it doesn't
[19:56] <groober> Jordan_U: su -cc "..." gives "su: illegal option -- c"
[19:56] <groober> sorry, su -c
[19:56] <jrib> nanvou: I don't know but I suggest pastebinning your actual script to see if someone can help
[19:56] <savio> Big_Stupid check dpkg.log
[19:56] <cloneG> just  one question: if I install nvidia-current-updates do I need also nvidia-common? ubuntu 12.04, nvidia Geforce 8800 Gt
[19:57] <Guest31542> any idea why installer won't give me to change install drive?
[19:58] <Big_Stupid> thanks savio!
[19:58] <Jordan_U> groober: Please run the exact command I gave, then copy and paste the full command and its output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com , and post the link to it here.
[19:58] <savio> Big_Stupid np
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, You in the something other option?
[19:58] <nanvou> here's the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623777/
[19:59] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: what option you mean to use?
[19:59] <jrib> nanvou: but there's no "respawn" there?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, There is a install gui at the bottom is something other it is the manual install.
[19:59] <nanvou> jrib, yes so that it runs no matter what
[20:00] <Neytiri> can someone help me fix the kernal panic i am getting after i updated and rebooted
[20:00] <jrib> nanvou: I'm confused.  Wasn't your complaint that "respawn" was not having an effect?
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, 3rd or 4ty choice in the install guis.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> 4th
[20:00] <nanvou> jrib, >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/upstart-devel/2011-January/001383.html (look for respawn)
[20:00] <nanvou> I tried this approach because respawn had no effect in the first place
[20:01] <Dr_willis> Guest31542,  you are booting from a live cd. and doing a full install to a hard drive?
[20:01] <jrib> nanvou: that's a really old document.  Have you checked current documentation?
[20:01] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: you mean choices frome livecd grub menu or what? In graphical installer I have no options to change hdd to install
[20:01] <nanvou> jrib, yes http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ . I went there
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, Honestly with a uefi install you should be using the ubuntu forums.
[20:02] <groober> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5623791/
[20:02] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: ok, it seems to be best way for right now
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, Do you have the W8 backed up to a external or backed up in case it is bricked?
[20:03] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: thanks for you trying
[20:03] <genii-around> groober: My guess would be that you need a username at the end, or a -
[20:03] <jrib> nanvou: there's #upstart, you may have better luck there
[20:04] <Big_Stupid> can anyone help with an issue with anki?  I keep getting a 404/cant connect error when I use the program.
[20:04] <nanvou> jrib, thanks
[20:04] <nantou> i cannot get slype or ekiga to work correctly. I use ALSA and the sound sounds really bad, like with lots of static electricity
[20:04] <nantou> things is, the embedded microphone works
[20:04] <nantou> arecord -D plughw:0,0 -c 2 -r 16000 -f S16_LE - | aplay -D plughw:0,0 -c 2 -r 16000 -f S16_LE - works
[20:05] <nantou> however, if "c 2" is changed to "c 1", no output
[20:05] <genii-around> groober: Or a sudo at the front
[20:05] <Jordan_U> groober: Looks like OSX's syntax is slightly different than GNU su's, try this: su root -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:05] <cloneG> is there something similar to this with nvidia? http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[20:05] <nantou> i have been trying to use alsamixer to get decent sound, but nothing
[20:05] <nantou> plus, I cannot listen to music with, say, gmusicbrowser and talk to the embedde mic
[20:06] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[20:06] <cloneG> okay thanks
[20:06] <ruser> hi, i used the gui package manager to install binary  blob drivers from ati (yes, i know bad idea) and screwed up my X install.  can't fing the package name on command line to remove the binary blob.  Any ideas what's the name?
[20:07] <Dr_willis> cloneG,  most people just use the addational-drivers tool (or tab) to install the needed drivers
[20:07] <cloneG> I dont know what to do more! I am going nuts
[20:07] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I have backup but I won't touch /dev/sdb.
[20:08] <Dr_willis> cloneG,  whats your  video card? is it one of those dual video optimius setups?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, Cool just checking you want to be able to recover under any circumstances. ;)
[20:08] <cloneG> I ve been trying to make my graphic card work for three days
[20:08] <cloneG> the point is it s been working like a charm for four months...
[20:08] <cloneG> and suddenly the frame rate slowered...
[20:08] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I just can't understand why installer offer install GRUB on /dev/sda BUT won't install all system there
[20:09] <cloneG> I lost my patience and reboot..
[20:09] <cloneG> bad idea
[20:09] <cloneG> it was the end
[20:09] <cloneG> I think it is related to kernel upgrade but i cant really tell
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, UEFI is funky the manufacturers have their own tweaked versions. The only place where I have seen any actual help within this context is from a mod on the ubuntu forums that is focused on uefi.
[20:10] <Dr_willis> you can select older kernels from the Grub Boot Menu.
[20:10] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I just can't see /dev/sda on the installer menu! But I can format or create any partions on one.
[20:10] <BluesKaj> nantou, is pulseaudio installed ?
[20:10] <groober> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5623811/
[20:10] <nantou> BluesKaj, yes
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, There is one user on here now who is closer than most, but They have to repond in their own time if they want to.
[20:11] <cloneG> startx will throw a 'could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0(input/output error)
[20:11] <Brutusss> does anyone know how to get rid of the more suggestions in the applications menu in 13.04?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> nantou, pavucontrol ?
[20:11] <Dr_willis> !adlens
[20:11] <Jordan_U> groober: I give specific commands for a reason, if you think they need to be changed ask me about it, but don't just change it yourself. Please run exactly the command I gave you.
[20:11] <nantou> BluesKaj, yes
[20:11] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: very nice)
[20:11] <k1l> cloneG: dont use startx. start the lightdm
[20:11] <Brutusss> ubottu: I already did that
[20:11] <Brutusss> oh right
[20:11] <bekks> groober: Line 9 following. It works very well and clearly tells you "admin" has no access to /dev/disk1
[20:12] <Dr_willis> Brutusss,  askubuntu.com most likely has several  hits on tweaking the dash to remove the lens you dont want
[20:12] <cloneG> dr.willis what the addational-drivers is? a package?
[20:12] <Brutusss> Dr_willis: I wan't the lens. i really do. just not the ads
[20:13] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I will try to plug out drive with windows and then install ubuntu
[20:13] <Brutusss> i found it for the other lenses, already put my privacy settings up
[20:13] <Dr_willis> Brutusss,  thats handled by the shopping-lens package i belive.
[20:13] <cloneG> k1l: that will get stuck at checking battery state...............[ok]
[20:13] <Kroach> how can I convert a video into an image sequence? OpenShot has this option but it only ouptuts 320x240  images. Is there any way of getting higher resolution with ffmpeg or something else?
[20:13] <groober> Jordan_U: well, try #2 is that
[20:13] <groober> dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied
[20:13] <Jordan_U> groober: No, it's not.
[20:13] <nixnine> is there a keylogger that works in studio?
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, I can't really help with any confidence other than to direct you to the right place. ;)
[20:14] <k1l> cloneG: startx doesnt work in ubuntu. start lightdm and see the logs for errors
[20:14] <Brutusss> Dr_willis: that's what I thought. I removed it from my computer but it's still showing up, but only with applications. i was able to remove them from the other menu options
[20:14] <Dr_willis> Kroach,   i belive ffmpeg, and mencoder can both convert a video file in to  single image files one image per frame.
[20:14] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I think it can be worked. brb)
[20:14]  * wilee-nilee know we all have pipe dreams, lol
[20:16] <cloneG> k1l:  /var/log/Xorrg.0.log ---> [E][E] failed to initialize the nvidia gpu at pci 1:0:0 please check your system's kernel log
[20:16] <Jordan_U> groober: If you're having trouble retyping the command correctly you can always copy and paste (in fact I would highly recommend doing so, especially when a command you retyped fails).
[20:16] <k1l> cloneG: first make sure you have the kernel headers installed. then install nvidia-current
[20:16] <Brutusss> Dr_willis: that site is great :)
[20:16] <kuranevi> hi
[20:16] <Brutusss> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsLens display-available-apps false
[20:16] <Brutusss> that worked :)
[20:16] <cloneG> k1l: Kern.log ---> NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) fail
[20:17] <Brutusss> thank you for the help Dr_willis
[20:17] <kuranevi> how can i use .dwg files on LibreCAD?
[20:17] <cloneG> kernel-headers-generic yes sir!
[20:17] <cloneG> Installed!
[20:17] <ruser> hi, i used the gui package manager to install binary  blob drivers from ati (yes, i know bad idea) and screwed up my X install.  can't fing the package name on command line to remove the binary blob.  Any ideas what's the pkg name?  can someone quickly look it up for me?  would be much apprecaited.
[20:17] <cloneG> k1l: kernel-headers-generic already installed
[20:18] <k1l> cloneG: make sure its the right one for your kernel installed
[20:18] <cloneG> k1l: how do I know?
[20:18] <leptone> can anyone recommend a PDF editor that will work with 12.04?
[20:19] <balachmar> on my laptop I need to use the nvidia drivers, but even though I have them installed, ubuntu 13.04 still loads the nouveau driver. How can I make sure it loads the nvidia driver?
[20:19] <k1l> cloneG:  dpkg -l |grep linux-headers
[20:19] <Dr_willis> kuranevi,  google hit for 'librecad dwg' finds --> http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/librecad-gets-native-dwg-importer
[20:19] <oz6oh> I am looking for people  there know something about strobe in parrallelport programming   strobe shall go on or off
[20:20] <k1l> cloneG: make sure its matches with your kernel (uname -a)
[20:20] <savio> leptone editor means an highlighter
[20:20] <cloneG> k1l: 3.5.0 yes sir! same version the kernel is
[20:21] <k1l> cloneG: ok. then see the kernel log as mentioned in the error msg you just posted
[20:21] <leptone> savio, ??
[20:21] <cloneG> I also posted what it is in
[20:21] <cloneG> NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed!
[20:22] <cloneG> k1l: NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed!
[20:22] <cloneG> k1l: not enough clues for me
[20:22] <genii-around> balachmar: First, to make sure you have nvidia properly installed, these packages should be installed: linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic linux-source build-essential and dkms    ... then, to make sure nouveau does not load at boot: in /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"    and then: sudo update-grub       then install nvidia-current
[20:23] <k1l> cloneG: which ubuntu? which video card? which driver? (driver from ubuntu or where from?)
[20:23] <savio> leptone u need text highlighter in pdf like adobe x
[20:23] <genii-around> balachmar: Additionally, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   you need it to specify there
[20:23] <cloneG> k1l: ubuntu 12.04 64 bit nvidia geforce 8800 Gt
[20:23] <balachmar> genii-around: ok so I need to add the nomodeset kernel option
[20:23] <cloneG> k1l: driver from swat repo
[20:24] <oz6oh> I have teamviewer here if some can help me
[20:24] <cloneG> k1l; nvidia-current-updates
[20:24] <k1l> cloneG: then please ask the swat guys whats wrong with their drivers
[20:24] <genii-around> balachmar: If you do: lsmod      ...right now, does it show both nvidia and nouveau ?
[20:24] <cloneG> k1l:http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu
[20:24] <k1l> cloneG: the nvidia in 12.04 didnt have problems with the 8800 and 8600
[20:24] <lukecarrier> Hi, I have a question regarding graphics drivers. I own a ThinkPad Edge E530, which mostly runs great, except for the fact that I can only boot into an Xfce/Gnome Classic session (12.10 and 13.04 both exhibit this behaviour). The system has dual graphics, which I suspect is the issue... I pasted my lshw output if anyone can spare any advice? Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623851/
[20:25] <balachmar> genii-around: nope, lsmod only shows nouveau
[20:25] <cloneG> k1l: I know ! I told you I ve been using the system wonderfully 3d since a couple of weeks
[20:26] <cloneG> k1l: reinstall ubuntu?
[20:26] <genii-around> balachmar: I would do the other steps then to ensure the nvidia driver is being built properly. I had this issue early on with 13.04
[20:26] <groober> back here, i was disconnected
[20:26] <ruser> hi, i used the gui package manager to install binary  blob drivers from ati (yes, i know bad idea) and screwed up my X install.  can't fing the package name on command line to remove the binary blob.  Any ideas what's the pkg name?  can someone quickly look it up for me?  would be much apprecaited.
[20:26] <cloneG> k1l: i am starting to consider that chance
[20:26] <Ben64> cloneG: whats the issue?
[20:26] <groober> at 22:16
[20:26] <balachmar> genii-around: ok, I was missing the kernel source at least
[20:27] <k1l> cloneG: if you use a 3rd party PPA and that breaks your ubuntu its not ubuntus fault.
[20:27] <genii-around> balachmar: Also here is an xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623857/
[20:27] <cloneG> k1l: true
[20:27] <cloneG> k1l: what would you do?
[20:27] <k1l> cloneG: you could use ppa-purge to remove that and see if its working with the original ubuntu drivers
[20:27] <groober> Jordan_U: if you answered me, please repeat
[20:28] <cloneG> k1l: I ll follow your advice
[20:28] <cloneG> k1l: have a nice day
[20:28] <Riley-> okay guys this is seriously driving me insane for some reason theres a solid line at the top of flash videos and i can not for the life of me figure out how to fix it because it does it randamly sometimes itll show up and sometimes not
[20:28] <Jordan_U> groober: You did not run the command I gave you. If you're having trouble retyping the command correctly you can always copy and paste (in fact I would highly recommend doing so, especially when a command you retyped fails).
[20:28] <k1l> cloneG: i hope that will solve the issue.
[20:29] <cloneG> k1l: what about forcing /blocking packages in synaptic? is it a good practice?
[20:29] <Riley-> does anyone know what im talking about i asked the other day and nobody had any ideas and theres nothing on the forums or launchpad
[20:29] <k1l> cloneG: if you know what you do
[20:29] <oz6oh> some here know  how to use Strobe in port programming   i shall have strobe high og low
[20:30] <plusJon> question: Can my computer run Ubuntu? Here are the specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/asus-a7v8x-mx-motherboard/4507-3049_7-31317867.html
[20:30] <cloneG> k1l: preventing this to happen?
[20:30] <groober> Jordan_U: you mean   su admin -c "dd if=/Users/Sergio/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:30] <cloneG> k1l: oh yes! I know what I am doing lol
[20:30] <groober> that's what i did
[20:31] <b4dave__> hello Ubuntu. I am new and am using the new gnome 13.04 and thought I would say hello and introduce myself.
[20:31] <Riley-> Anyone? this is seriously driving me crazy
[20:31] <Jordan_U> groober: And that's not the command I gave you.
[20:31] <Jordan_U> groober: Would you like me to repeat it?
[20:31] <groober> yes, please
[20:31] <Jordan_U> groober: su root -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:32] <oz6oh> some here know  how to use Strobe in port programming   i shall have strobe high og low  ole in denmark
[20:32] <Dr_willis> Riley-,  checked askubuntu.com ? i cant say ive heard of anyone else with a solid line at the top of flash videos.
[20:32] <Riley-> ive looked everywere
[20:32] <Riley-> im seriously about to give up
[20:32] <Riley-> im almost positive it has to do with notifyosd because it pops up sometimes when i change my volume
[20:33] <groober> Jordan_U: only difference is root in place of admin. but admin is an administrator of the machine
[20:34] <Riley-> theres one question about it but nobody replied
[20:34] <plusJon_> Can Ubuntu run smoothly on my computer? Specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/asus-a7v8x-mx-motherboard/4507-3049_7-31317867.html
[20:34] <nantou> help appreciated, ALSA, skype and ekiga http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141100&p=12628760#post12628760
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> plusJon_Boot a live cd/usb and see.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> groober: An "administrator" account rarely has root privileges, at most they have rights to use sudo to run commands as root. A command writing directly to a disk device needs to be run as root.
[20:35] <plusJon> I did, but after
[20:35] <balachmar> @genii-around, I now have done what you said, rebooted. now my resolution is borked. It is still using nouveau however, nvidia does show up on lsmod now
[20:35] <plusJon> After I logged in, it was slow and unusable
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, On a cd, are you familiar at all with open source?
[20:36] <groober> Jordan_U: if i do it with my admin, it reads    dd:   /Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img: No such file or directory
[20:36] <groober> not permission denied
[20:36] <plusJon> I had installed via a usb.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> groober,  sounds like you are using the wrong path or filename
[20:37] <groober> i copy pasted it
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, Have you tried to get help here to find problems?
[20:37] <Dr_willis> groober,  whats the exact command you are using?
[20:37] <groober> actually, drag&drop
[20:37] <plusJon> That's what I'm doing now. :P
[20:37] <groober> bash-3.2$ su admin -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:37] <balachmar> @genii-around, I did add nvidia to xorg...
[20:38] <Ben64> groober: what? why are you using su
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, Cool, always use nicks, so to get help you have to give details of specific problems, generally one at a time. ;)
[20:38] <Dr_willis> groober,  this is on os-x? i belve the gui does  things with the CASE of filenames. douvble check the path and name with the SHELL.
[20:38] <plusJon> I made a bootable Ubuntu USB, installed it. Once I logged it, it was so slow it was unusable. Went back to my Windows boot, and I'm seeking help here.
[20:38] <Dr_willis> groober,  your users actual name is 'myname' ? ;)
[20:39] <plusJon> wilee-nilee huh?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> groober: Your earlier pastebin shows that the result of that command was in fact "dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied". Trust me, this command needs to be run as root, and the exact command I gave you will work (provided you know the root password, which you said earlier that you do).
[20:40] <groober> Dr_willis: i just drag and dropped the file in terminal. no human errors
[20:40] <Jordan_U> groober: Is there a reason that you don't want to run the command I gave you?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, Without any specific details and you having access to ubuntu while on here not much can be done possibly, do you have another computer or a smart phone to access the irc?
[20:40] <Dr_willis> groober,  double check the path with the shell.
[20:40] <plusJon> I'm on windows right now.  Just chatted: "Once I logged it, it was so slow it was unusable. Went back to my Windows boot, and I'm seeking help here."
[20:40] <Dr_willis> I wonder if the Pendrivelinux site has tools for OS-X.. i imagine it does.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, And lol just repeating yourself and not reading my posts, good luck with that. ;)
[20:41] <plusJon> Oh, wait, I was confused. :P
[20:41] <plusJon> I see what you mean now.
[20:42]  * wilee-nilee to the ignore with you.
[20:42] <piero> Which is the more reliable sun java ppa source?
[20:42] <groober> Dr_willis: assume my filename is right. i checked well for it, and the path too
[20:43] <groober> Jordan_U: well, i'm gonna try. i must disconnect, brb
[20:43] <Jordan_U> groober: Dr_willis: The filename problem is due to the lack of "-c", which is why it's important to use exactly the commands I give, as I give them.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> piero, reliable is a subjective.
[20:44] <plusJon> Can anyone help me? :\ I can't really explain more to my issue as it simply runs very slowly. I right click, and it responds 30 seconds later.
[20:44] <plusJon> But only after I log in.
[20:44] <Ben64> plusJon: you should get a faster computer...
[20:45] <www> d
[20:45] <www> f
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Dr_willis: groober: su was trying to find an executable at the path "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m", and clearly no such file exists as that's not meant to be a path.
[20:45] <www> a
[20:45] <piero> wilee-nilee, %s/reliable/best, that you use in your own computer if u need
[20:45] <plusJon> Ben64, I know it can run because before I log in, it's smooth.
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> piero, useless terms
[20:46] <Ben64> plusJon: before you log in, nothing is running
[20:46] <piero> wilee-nilee, are u mad?
[20:46] <Ben64> piero: don't
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> piero, Lol, my psychotherapist says I'm normal. ;)
[20:46] <Dr_willis> err.. I have quite a lot running on my Linux box befor i login. ;)
[20:46] <Ben64> plusJon: try xubuntu or lubuntu for a faster performance on a slower computer
[20:47] <plusJon> Ok. Well then is there an area where I can see the minimum specs for ubuntu? And thanks, I'll try that as well.
[20:47] <genii-around> balachmar: Apologies on lag, work required me
[20:47] <Myrtti> plusJon: do you have a browser on when it goes slow?
[20:47] <piero> wilee-nilee, no way.. i dont like you.. you looks like a fag
[20:47] <compex> plusJon - first I'd try something like fluxbox/openbox to see if it helps
[20:47] <balachmar> @genii-around, well, that sometime happens to me as well :)
[20:47] <Ben64> plusJon: depending on the version of ubuntu you're using, it probably defaults to unity and trying to have a 3d desktop
[20:47] <DJones> piero: Enough of that, be polite in the channel
[20:48] <plusJon> Myrtti I have nothing open. Just log in, then crash and burn.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> !ops | piero
[20:48] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: relax, they already know
[20:48] <compex> plusjon - try using fluxbox
[20:48] <plusJon> Ben64, I tried the 12.04 version.
[20:48] <genii-around> balachmar: So you did the /etc/default/grub  edit and did: sudo update-grub  ..?   Might not hurt at same time to do: sudo update-initramfs -u    ..as well.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, cool, I am relaxed, lol
[20:48] <Dr_willis> plusJon,   also see if the guest user, or a newly made user has the same issues.
[20:48] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: don't need to !ops every time someone is mean though
[20:49] <compex> plusjon - what are the specs of your machine anyway?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> piero: That type of attidue toward others, and using homophobic slurs, are both unnacceptable in this channel. Please keep discussion civil.
[20:49] <Ben64> compex: it's an amd xp
[20:49] <plusJon> compex, http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/asus-a7v8x-mx-motherboard/4507-3049_7-31317867.html
[20:49] <balachmar> @genii-around, ok, will reboot again
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, That is a comment that is intrinsically one that should cause a ban, marginalizing is not acceptable, and I'm not new here.
[20:50] <piero> Jordan_U, which homophobic slurs did i use? sorry.. english isnt trivial to me..
[20:50] <piero> Jordan_U, i was trying to say.. mad as sad or boring..
[20:50] <Dr_willis> or just trolling.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> piero: "fag" is a highly negative term for homosexuals.
[20:51] <compex> plusjon - damn o.O try running one of the lighter flavors man, ubuntu I think is too much for this xD
[20:51] <piero> Jordan_U, i did not know that.. sorry
[20:51] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: just letting you know, the ops don't like being triggered all the time, and if you've been around for a long time, you'd know that an op was already around and had responded to it before you did !ops
[20:52] <piero> Jordan_U, for me.. its looks like a "hater", "mad people".. "boring people.."
[20:52] <balachmar> @genii-around, hmm, still the same...
[20:52] <plusJon> Ok. I want to run linux for android development and such. Which kind do  you recommen?.
[20:52] <piero> whatever, sorry.. i was just trying to say wilee-nilee isnt cool.. :D
[20:52] <genii-around> balachmar: So lsmod is showing both nvidia and nouveau?
[20:53] <lukecarrier> Hi, I have a question regarding graphics drivers. I own a ThinkPad Edge E530, which mostly runs great, except for the fact that I can only boot into an Xfce/Gnome Classic session (12.10 and 13.04 both exhibit this behaviour). The system has dual graphics, which I suspect is the issue... I pasted my lshw output if anyone can spare any advice? Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623851/ (sorry for repeat)
[20:53] <Ben64> piero: still not an acceptable attitude towards someone volunteering their time to help you
[20:53] <balachmar> @genii-around, yep
[20:53] <as2000> any suggestions for a FLV editor?
[20:53] <piero> Ben64, he was never trying to help me..
[20:53] <Myrtti> piero: move on
[20:53] <piero> and i dont think we should continue this discussion.. not here at least
[20:53] <bazhang> piero, just drop it
[20:54] <compex> plusjon - try damn small linux or puppy linux
[20:54] <nullby7e> xaxa
[20:54] <Dr_willis> tinycorelinux is really tiny. ;)
[20:54] <plusJon> I was thining DSL, but didn't know that was a full linux.
[20:54] <piero> anything i want here is to know which sun java source do you use?
[20:54] <Dr_willis> plusJon,  lubuntu would be the lightest 'ubuntu' variant.
[20:54] <johnjohn101> never heard of tinycore.  isn't puppy based on ubuntu anyway?
[20:54] <Ben64> piero: i use java in the ubuntu repositories
[20:54] <bazhang> !java | piero have a read and decide for yourself
[20:54] <Chidubem> I am having a problem with Ubuntu.
[20:55] <Myrtti> Chidubem: oh?
[20:55] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  thers so many puppy variants. I think theres a branch based on ubuntu  (or at least using ubuntu repos) Puppy is very weird in many ways
[20:55] <genii-around> balachmar: Does: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*  return any results?
[20:55] <nowx> Chidubem, really?
[20:55] <Chidubem> A bunch of paxHeader folders has been created by it.
[20:55] <piero> i cant use openjdk because the only vm working with my bank is sun jre7
[20:55] <darkmutt> i've got a cgoban 3 java application on my desktop that i can run easily visually but via commandline it's not so easy to go by command any ideas?
[20:56] <bazhang> piero, read th e links given you
[20:56] <Dr_willis> darkmutt,  how are you running it from the desktop? just doubleclicking the launcher?
[20:56] <Chidubem> I don't know why those folders have been created nor how to stop it.
[20:56] <darkmutt> yep just a simple doubleclick runs it after a while but it runs it
[20:57] <Dr_willis> darkmutt,  see what  commandline command the  launcher.desktop file is running
[20:57] <darkmutt> i was trying via commandline by it's name as the command when in desktop folder then with prepended . or /.
[20:57] <balachmar> @genii-around, ok, just tried 310 instead of 313... but still the same effect. Really have no clue why ubuntu is using nouveau...
[20:57] <Chidubem> Does anybody know how to prevent that?
[20:58] <bazhang> Chidubem, what is "it"
[20:58] <Dr_willis> darkmutt,  look IN the .desktop file see what the exec line is running
[20:58] <Chidubem> The automatic creation a bunch of paxHeader folders, I didn't create then, I think the Ubuntu system did.
[20:59] <bazhang> Chidubem, what is the context of this please
[20:59] <as2000> any suggestions for a FLV editor?
[21:00] <Chidubem> I packed all my files to a .tar file for backup. Then I extracted them to a external hard drive. Then I fond folders named paxHeader.
[21:00] <Dr_willis> as2000,  most people use a video editor. then export to whatever final format they need i imagine.
[21:00] <groober> Jordan_U: okay, i made it to work
[21:00] <genii-around> balachmar: I'd suggest one more edit then to explicity blacklist nouveau in the /etc/default/grub  file... add  nouveau.blacklist=1  after where it says splash but inside the quotes. Then again: sudo update-grub&& sudo update-initramfs -u
[21:00] <groober> now i hope it just works
[21:00] <Inoki> Hi guys, any designers here?
[21:01] <daftykins> define: designer
[21:01] <compex> Inoki - for what.. xD
[21:01] <bazhang> Inoki, designers of what?
[21:01] <Inoki> Graphic designers.
[21:01] <daftykins> Inoki: usually it's best to start with the most detailed question :>
[21:01] <Inoki> Sorry.
[21:01] <Ben64> Chidubem: where did you create the tar
[21:02] <balachmar> genii-around, ok, just did that will reboot again...
[21:02] <CorySimmons> How can I wget a website/dirs/subdirs if the site has one of those htpasswd things on it? I have the login for it, but don't know how to wget it.
[21:02] <Inoki> Got a general question regarding resolution in GFX software and export.
[21:02] <Chidubem> Internal HDD. Where I have Windows and NTFS.
[21:02] <bazhang> Inoki, whats the exact question
[21:02] <johnjohn101> how do i disable amazon in dash for 13.04?  my mom just gave me a call.
[21:03] <Ben64> Chidubem: i mean operating system. looks like thats a problem in bsd/osx
[21:03] <bazhang> !adlens > johnjohn101
[21:03] <darkmutt> problem is when i manage to log into that app all of a sudden i can't click anything in the second created window and that makes it impossible to use said app
[21:03] <Inoki> bazhang: I don't understand why if I get correct dimensions of a let's say banner and do exactly according to those dimensions, export at 96 PPI , which is the resolution of my display to get what I see the banner still doesn't fit? What could possibly go wrong?
[21:03] <Chidubem> I was using Ubuntu 12.10. I am using Ubuntu 13.04 now.
[21:03] <bazhang> Inoki, web design?
[21:03] <Inoki> bazhang: I've read countless articles on the internet stating that for web one should use the PPI of the monitor.
[21:03] <Ben64> Chidubem: maybe you used bsdtar instead of tar?
[21:04] <Inoki> bazhang: yer, web design. I know DPI is for printing.
[21:04] <Ben64> Inoki: just make it the resolution you want it to be, dpi doesn't matter for screen at all
[21:04] <groober> thanks, bye
[21:04] <Chidubem> I just right click the file and choose "Compress" I don't know which is the default program.
[21:05] <johnjohn101> tx bazhang,   she was getting annoyed
[21:05] <Inoki> bazhang: that's the point. I made it according to the resolution of the target area to be placed on the web, in this case a Facebook banner. I made a banner 801 * 295 px and it doesn't display the same.
[21:05] <as2000> Dr_willis: I don't need to convert it, I need to edit an FLV file
[21:05] <Inoki> bazhang: a group banner to be exact.
[21:05] <darkmutt> it's as if the mouse clicks simply go through the window :/
[21:05] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-13-04   item 8
[21:05] <Dr_willis> as2000,  the video editors all convert them internally as far as ive seen.. so you load it.. edit it.. export it/save it back to flv.
[21:06] <Dr_willis> as2000,  ive never seen a specific 'flv' editor. since flv is just a container format as far as i know
[21:06] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: tx.  i thought i had read it somewhere but slipped my mind.
[21:07] <johnjohn101> despite some of the underwhelming reviews on 13.04, i love it.
[21:07] <Chidubem> I was using Files/Nautilus, and there is no bsdtar in my machine right now. But I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04
[21:07] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  people rant if ubuntu does too many changes.. now they rant when they dont do enough radical changes...
[21:08] <Dr_willis> 12.10 to 13.04 is just a lot of Polish and little tweaks  ;) and updated packages..
[21:08] <anew> when i go for /var/log/apache2 it says permission denied for this foldre ?
[21:09] <johnjohn101> all of linux is rapidly getting mature.  not sure how much more it can change, just keeps getting better.  starting to wonder if six months release schedule in really necessary.
[21:09] <Inoki> Ben64: I did. I made it exactly as the target resolution, it just doesn't display right.
[21:09] <Ben64> Inoki: how do you know
[21:10] <Inoki> Ben64: I checked the resolution of another banner of the same size via Chrome's inspector.
[21:10] <compex> i started using ubuntu with dapper, it is unbelievable how much better it has gotten :3
[21:11] <johnjohn101> dapper was which version?  I started using ubuntu 7.04 and 100% switched on home computer at 9.10.
[21:11] <compex> 6.06
[21:11] <Chidubem> Ben64: I just right click the file and choose "Compress" I don't know which is the default program.
[21:12] <anew> when i go for /var/log/apache2 it says permission denied for this foldre ?
[21:12] <Chidubem> Ben64: I was using Files/Nautilus, and there is no bsdtar in my machine right now. But I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04
[21:12] <genii-around> johnjohn101: It was 6.06 ... the first Ubuntu to be behind schedule by 2 months
[21:12] <compex> I think the first SOLID release imo was 10.04. It was amazing
[21:12] <SrPx> Will "rm rf *" work without sudo?
[21:12] <compex> no driver issues at all
[21:12] <SrPx> s/rf/-rf
[21:12] <ctxmen> just try it
[21:13] <genii-around> SrPx: If the files in the directory you're in belong to you, it will wipe all those ones out
[21:13] <compex> I can't believe it has come to the point where I dread reinstalling Windows because of driver hell..
[21:13] <SrPx> genii-around: woa. :(
[21:13] <genii-around> SrPx: Use with caution.
[21:14] <meck0> Hi! Is is possible to configure "window border" and such in Unity (Ubuntu 13.04)? As I remeber, it was possible to conf themes more before in the Gnome-times. I think that the default window border is so large.
[21:14] <SrPx> genii-around: what about "rm rf /" ? Is it innofensive?
[21:15] <genii-around> SrPx: No, because /home/your-username  is one of those recursing directories
[21:15] <SrPx> genii-around: so even "rm -rf /" will delete stuff without sudo?
[21:15] <genii-around> SrPx: ( which belongs to you and therefore you have the right to remove )
[21:15] <johnjohn101> who maintains unity tweak tool?
[21:16] <k1l_> SrPx: that command will not work on ubuntu
[21:16] <genii-around> SrPx: Yes, if anything under there belongs to the user making that command.
[21:16] <genii-around> k1l_: Does it chunk out after hitting the first thing it can't remove?
[21:16] <SrPx> genii-around: but I thought it would ask for root as you have no permission over /
[21:16] <genii-around> SrPx: I haven't personally tried it because I don't want to find out.
[21:17] <SrPx> genii-around: /2 heh
[21:17] <k1l_> johnjohn101: apt-cache show packagename
[21:17] <k1l_> genii-around: preserve-root thingy saves ubuntu
[21:18] <genii-around> k1l_: Interesting.
[21:18] <johnjohn101> what is preserve-root?
[21:18] <k1l_> "man rm" who wants to find out more on that topic
[21:19] <as2000> Dr_willis: I just need to know an editor to use. I have an FLV file that is doing some funky things and want to see if I can salvage it
[21:21] <Aison>  hmm, raring upgrade fucked up my test machine.... strange
[21:21]  * genii-around makes more coffee and keeps a lookout for balachmar
[21:21] <Aison> I can boot with recovery mode, but then the kernel hangs at usb initialization or during /scripts/init-bottom
[21:22] <llldino> Aison, nvidia graphics card?
[21:22] <Aison> llldino, yes
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> !language > Aison
[21:22] <llldino> Aison, Join the club. Boot into nosetmode for now I guess
[21:22] <anew> can anyone hlelp me on a permissino denied for /var/log/apache2 ???
[21:22] <llldino> anew, sudo the cmd
[21:23] <zykotick9> illovae: Aison it's nomodeset.  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details
[21:23] <Aison> thx all
[21:23] <johnjohn101> llldino, what's it going to take to get that nosetmode fixed without the workaround?
[21:23] <Aison> let me try it
[21:23] <anew> llldino i tried sudo cd but it says command not found ?
[21:23] <llldino> zykotick9, Really? I've been using nosetmode, is the cpu smart enough to correct my mistake?
[21:23] <zykotick9> !nomodeset
[21:24] <johnjohn101> is that really an nvidia bug?
[21:24] <llldino> johnjohn101, Beats me. An update to the splash maybe?
[21:24] <balachmar> genii-around, ok, I think I am going mad. even with the blacklist stuff it still loads nouveau instead of nvidia!!
[21:24] <llldino> johnjohn101, nividia is famous for messing up linux
[21:24] <waffle2> where can I find directions for filing an ubuntu bug report?
[21:24] <genii-around> balachmar: That is really weird.
[21:25] <zykotick9> !bug | waffle2
[21:25] <waffle2> thanks.
[21:25] <chutney> if I tried to run ubuntu server on an athlon 1.4ghz with 768mb ram, would it be acceptable or like totally slow?
[21:25] <Dr_willis> anew,  sudo cd        would not actually do anything.
[21:25] <balachmar> genii-around, and I see the nomodeset and blacklist stuff in grub.cfg as well. So the grub config was updated
[21:25] <llldino> chutney, It depends what you're running on it
[21:25] <johnjohn101> i agree with linus' reaction to nvidia last year
[21:25] <Dr_willis> anew,  sudo ls /path/to/whatever/    would show th efiles
[21:25] <genii-around> balachmar: At some point, did you try and install the driver from the main nvidia site, bypassing the package manager? If so, then this may also explain
[21:26] <chutney> llldino, I was thinking ubuntu 12 server
[21:26] <llldino> chutney, Yeah but what are you serving? Webpages?
[21:26] <chutney> yes
[21:26] <llldino> chutney, What's your traffic going to be like?
[21:26] <balachmar> genii-around, nope, because I know it might mess up your setup
[21:26] <chutney> not much traffic, just as  a test development server for one client
[21:27] <balachmar> genii-around, even weirder is, that lsmod does not show nouveau anymore, but it is still in the kernel.log
[21:27] <llldino> chutney, It would probably be acceptable. Depends on what your tx rate is and what kind of content is on the webpages
[21:27] <balachmar> I also blacklisted it in the modules stuff
[21:27] <chutney> it would only be on a 100mbit lan
[21:27] <anew> ah yes dr_willis, so then i see the files in here, how do you change things so i can cd in there ? or is that not recomended ?
[21:28] <martincho> holasss
[21:28] <Dr_willis> anew,  what are you even needing to do in there?
[21:29] <Dr_willis> !permissions | anew
[21:29] <genii-around> balachmar: If lsmod doesn't show it, then it's not *currently* loaded, which is something. Does the 4 lines:  blacklist nouveau and: blacklist lbm-nouveau  and: alias nouveau off   and:alias lbm-nouveau off    ...appear in the file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf    ?
[21:29] <anew> dr_willis i just want to look at the logs with my ftp client
[21:29] <balachmar> chutney, I am running an ubuntu webserver on a vps with 512 MB ram, though I opted for lighttpd instead of apache
[21:29] <Dr_willis> anew,  change permissions on the directory then. and perhaps the files..  Better to use ssh these days and not ftp.
[21:30] <anew> not even to view logs dr_willis ?
[21:30] <balachmar> yes, although my file is called: nvidia-310_hybrid.conf
[21:30] <Dr_willis> anew,  sudo cat /path/to/the/file
[21:31] <balachmar> genii-around, yes, although my file is called: nvidia-310_hybrid.conf
[21:31] <genii-around> balachmar: Ok. Thats fine then.
[21:31] <anew> bleh
[21:31] <anew> i like my ftp :(
[21:31] <Dr_willis> then.. Change the permissions on the files..
[21:31] <Dr_willis> if thats what you want.
[21:31] <raininja> you down with ftp? THEN YOU KNOW ME
[21:32] <Dr_willis> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[21:32] <genii-around> balachmar: I'm out of immediate ideas
[21:32] <llldino> Ftp is just asking for trouble, ssh does the same function more securely
[21:32] <anew> i dont understand tho, what trouble?  dont i need to use it to transfer files for my website ?
[21:33] <llldino> anew, Ftp transmits passwords in cleartext
[21:33] <Dr_willis> anew,  file transfer is ftps main design goal.. so  You just sort of said you dont need t use ftp then...
[21:33] <llldino> anew, And otehr content
[21:33] <Dr_willis> if all you wan tto do is view your log files.. ssh works well for that.
[21:33] <chutney> I thought vsftpd could handle encrypted passwords?
[21:33] <genii-around> balachmar: Are you using one of those cards with both nvidia and intel?
[21:34] <anew> meh ok, so dr_willis can i use sftp for uploading files to my server then? or that's bad also ?
[21:34] <balachmar> genii-around, yep
[21:34] <Dr_willis> anew Sftp - the S -> its using the ssh features
[21:34] <balachmar> genii-around, although I have put it to nvidia only in the bios
[21:34] <anew> oh
[21:34] <c0nsilience> hello
[21:34] <anew> so if i'm using sftp no big deal if i do everything thru there right ?
[21:35] <balachmar> genii-around, that was required before... maybe not anymore?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> !ssh | anew
[21:35] <genii-around> balachmar: Not sure, I haven't had to set up bumblebee or so on :-/ But it's a possibility
[21:36] <llldino> balachmar, Are you having trouble with boot using nvidia too?
[21:36] <balachmar> genii-around, I never set up bumblebee either, because I don't care about the switching, I just need the nvidia stuff to work
[21:36] <genii-around> balachmar: All the other things check out
[21:36] <compex> balachmar - look into setting up bb then, it is really easy
[21:36] <Aison> back
[21:36] <Aison> I tried with nomodeset
[21:36] <balachmar> llldino, booting is fine, it just isn't using the nvidia drivers and hence performance is bad...
[21:36] <Aison> but no help
[21:37] <Aison> the kernel hangs after printing a few lines
[21:37] <llldino> balachmar, Did you try the drivers from Xorg?
[21:37] <genii-around> balachmar: But you said nouveau wasn't loaded now... maybe it's going to the intel driver?
[21:37] <balachmar> llldino, xorg? I am trying to use the nvidia drivers form the repo
[21:37] <compex> balachmar - I am using GeForce GT 540M/PCIe/SSE2 with bb and it works beautifully
[21:38] <llldino> balachmar, Yeah sry that's what I meant.
[21:38] <compex> balachmar  - don't use nvidia drivers from repos :0
[21:38] <compex> I heard that breaks things
[21:38] <balachmar> @compex, is there a guide for setting it up? I generally want to stick to repo stuff as much as possible
[21:39] <balachmar> @compex, generally you break things by using the nvidia driver straight from nvidia...
[21:39] <compex> balachmar - it is really easy o.o https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[21:39] <genii-around> balachmar: Maybe if you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and possibly ~/.xsession-errors    there may be some clues
[21:39] <compex> balachmar - I heard using the nvidia drivers from repos with optimus breaks stuff
[21:40] <llldino> nvidia + linux = disaster anyways, at least in my case
[21:40] <compex> balachmar - some people just end up getting black screens
[21:40] <compex> llldino - it is a lot better now, pretty smooth now a days :P
[21:40] <ubuntuaddicted> i've never had issues with nvidia
[21:40] <k1l_> llldino: depends :/
[21:40] <balachmar> llldino, this is the first time I am having any real issues. And it is because of optimus tech
[21:40] <llldino> Well I mean with new kernals like raring
[21:40] <DrELECTRO> HelloWorld from XUbuntu
[21:41] <compex> I was pleasantly surprised at how well bumblebee worked. And nVidia is terrible, they don't support optimus on linux
[21:41] <martincho> alguien sabe como empaquetar una aplicacion en ubuntu?
[21:41] <ubuntuaddicted> BUT i've never used it when there were 2 GPU's in the computer
[21:41] <balachmar> genii-around, aah, it says it cannot find the nvidia mod
[21:42] <balachmar> genii-around, and it is dropping to vesa drivers. hence the terrible res
[21:42] <MrStein> I run live CD and in firefox when opening www.ubuntu.com  (sub)pages, the formatting is wrong. As if CSS is not loaded.  I tried several versions of Ubuntu CD (12.04, 13.04...) Is this some known issue?
[21:43] <Dr_willis> nvidia has made some promises to support optimus on linux.. but no idea how much work they have actually done.
[21:43] <usr13> MrStein: Probably, but it's LiveCD so...
[21:43] <Dr_willis>  
[21:43] <MrStein> usr13: what do you mean by "it's LiveCD"?
[21:44] <compex> it's a shame, optimus is so awesome :3
[21:44] <genii-around> balachmar: Odd since lsmod is showing that nvidia driver loaded.
[21:44] <usr13> MrStein: You should install and not have to  use just the LiveCD.
[21:44] <MrStein> usr13: but I need it as a rescue system only.
[21:44] <balachmar> genii-around, lsmod just says this for nvidia: nvidia               9410995  0
[21:44] <usr13> MrStein: How about USB?
[21:45] <MrStein> usr13: actually it is on USB. But don't see how this should affect the Firefox issue.
[21:45] <genii-around> balachmar: The 0 at the end shows it's not being used by anything though :-/
[21:45] <usr13> MrStein: So do your install on a USB.
[21:45] <llldino> MrStein, It's probably because flash/javascript/java isn't installed thru a LiveCD
[21:46] <balachmar> genii-around, which agrees with the xorg log...
[21:46] <MrStein> usr13: you mean live is unsupported/substandard?
[21:46] <compex> MrStein - Live cd is a preview of a sort.
[21:46] <Nadiyama> Hi, I've installed wine, openjdk and mplayer. No one of them is actually showed up in the "application" list to open with when I right click a file. Why?
[21:47] <genii-around> balachmar: Well, I normally would not suggest a PPA but in this case you may want to try adding the xorg-edgers one since the drivers there may be working with the Optimus cards
[21:47] <MrStein> compex: I know. It gives a negative preview, as it is....
[21:47] <balachmar> genii-around, I will call it a day for now. Will try some more tomorrow...
[21:47] <balachmar> genii-around, thanks for the help!
[21:48] <balachmar> and other too :)
[21:48] <compex> MrStein - Not really. It is running an entire OS from your USB drive. You can't expect it to do everything but it does work very well for recovery stuff.
[21:48] <genii-around> balachmar: You're welcome, just wish the issue was resolved. Good luck tomorrow.
[21:48] <MrStein> compex: well it does quite a lot, so I don't see why CSS should not work...
[21:49] <compex> MrStein - I wasn't paying attention, exactly what problem are you having?
[21:49] <usr13> MrStein: I did not say that it is unsupported or substandard, but as compex points, the LiveCD part is for demo, (not a system you would use as if it were full blown OS). I've given you the best advise.
[21:49] <MrStein> compex: www.ubuntu.com displayed with bad formattings (very basic, as if CSS is missing)
[21:50] <MrStein> this ahppens with different versions of Ubuntu.
[21:50] <MrStein> happens
[21:50] <MrStein> I cleared cache and everything (ctrl-shift-del) and now it works. Bizarre.
[21:50] <shomon> hi, I can't connect to the internet on my computer, it's connected via ethernet, but how can I find out what is going on?
[21:51] <shomon> I'm connecting via another cable to this laptop and I'mpretty sure the cable going into the one that doesn't work is fine.
[21:51] <johnjohn101> i was reading about all of the nvidia issues. what is bumblebee?
[21:51] <compex> MrStein - it happens sometimes. I have had formatting issues happen on all OS's, refresh fixes it
[21:51] <Discordian93_> Hi
[21:51] <llldino> shomon, Do ifconfig and post
[21:51] <usr13> MrStein: If you want to install Ubuntu, do so. If you have questions relate to a Ubuntu install, fire away.  (I'm pretty sure you'll not find anyone here that is interested attempting to the browsing experience of a LiveCD).
[21:51] <compex> johnjohn101 - It allows you to use both of your GPUs in optimus
[21:52] <genii-around> johnjohn101: It's software that lets you switch outputs of one of those hybrid cards back and forth between the Intel and the Nvidia
[21:52] <Discordian93_> I can't import pygame with python 3, can anyone help?
[21:52] <compex> johjohn101 - and optimus is nvidia/intel technology that allows you to have 2 GPU, one dedicated and one integrated for performance and battery life
[21:52] <johnjohn101> so intel chip with nvidia card?
[21:53] <compex> ya
[21:53] <usr13> MrStein: Why don't you install on a USB drive?
[21:53] <compex> it's really nice
[21:53] <compex> i get ~6-8 hours of battery life on this laptop
[21:53] <MrStein> Now I can get to the real problem:  booting ubuntu 13.04-desktop-i386.iso from USB (live) gives corruption in reading the iso image. Happens on two USB stick, on USB3.0 port and USB2.0 port. Is this known?  I get random errors, and md5sum gives wronf sum. I I read a lot from the USB and redo the md5sum, it gives correct results in this second run.
[21:53] <codepython777> I want to execute a script when "shutdown" begins, but TERM signal hasnt been sent to the processes. I understand that this can be done using "upstart" which looks complicated. Is there an easy way to do this?
[21:54] <MrStein> usr13:  It is a rescue USB stick with many OS'es.  Ubuntu installation would require own partition etc... too much hassle.
[21:54] <shomon> llldino, I only get "lo" details when I do ifconfig
[21:55] <MrStein> then you're probably missing hte correct driver
[21:55] <compex> MrStein - if your md5 is wrong.. I don't know xD You ahve very weird issues
[21:55] <llldino> shomon, Do you know what controller you have? You can do lspci -v | grep LAN to find out
[21:55] <MrStein> for the LAN interface card
[21:55] <shomon> I've tried to start network-manager and networking in /etc/init.d but network-manager has most options grayed out
[21:55] <usr13> MrStein: What are you saying about the checksum?
[21:55] <shomon> just trying llldino
[21:55] <llldino> shomon, And have you installed restricted-extras package yet?
[21:56] <MrStein> usr13: it is wrong in the first try, but later OK. As if some corruption happens during boot on the read data.
[21:56] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=run+script+on+shutdown      codepython777  has several ways.
[21:56] <usr13> MrStein: You ran md5sum on the iso image?
[21:56] <MrStein> yes
[21:56] <MrStein> twice
[21:56] <shomon> grep LAN gives nothing llldino
[21:56] <MrStein> first is always wrong on each boot, reproducibly
[21:56] <shomon> I'll check.. not sure how to check it's installed...
[21:56] <llldino> shomon, Do you know what LAn controller you have?
[21:56] <MrStein> shomon: try ifconfig -a
[21:57] <johnjohn101> compex: i was thinking of a new nvidia card for steam.  what is optimal and where i will have no issues installing the nvidia drivers?
[21:57] <llldino> shomon, You can do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and if it's installed nothing will happen
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, What app are you using to load the usb?
[21:58] <codepython777> Dr_willis: thanks. Interesting - On ubuntu: /etc/init.d/README says I'm on debian :)
[21:58] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: it boots with GRUB4DOS, I just copy the ISO file on it and add an entry into menu.lst
[21:59] <shomon> llldino, okay
[21:59] <MrStein> maybe I should try booting with grub2
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, So what is your goal here one iso or many and what OS's do you have to work with?
[21:59] <compex> johnjohn101 - I have never had an issue with nvidia hardware after 10.04, you are pretty safe in getting anything you want
[21:59] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: many ISOs bootable from USB stick
[21:59] <shomon> ifconfig -a now gives both eth0 and lo, but eth0 has no net addr value
[21:59] <llldino> shomon, If you're using xubuntu or lubuntu, replace ubuntu with xubuntu ect..
[22:00] <shomon> it's ubuntu
[22:00] <shomon> ok
[22:00] <johnjohn101> compex: why all the nvidia issues i see on this board?  nomodeset?
[22:00] <Dr_willis> MrStein,  the Pendrivelinux site has some tools for linux to setup grub2 on a usb to boot differnt iso files
[22:00] <llldino> johnjohn101, Because it's nvidia
[22:00] <codepython777> /etc/rc6.d/K99xx.py - is this executed at shutdown before or after TERM is sent to all processes?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, Ans what installed OS's personaly I use the multisystem usb loader it runs from ubuntu or linux, one partition and uses grub4dos fro windows boots and grub 2 for others.
[22:01] <Dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[22:01] <shomon> llldino, "ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version"
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> that is the one
[22:01] <shomon> sorry am running between the too pooters
[22:01] <shomon> two
[22:01] <llldino> shomon, Hm, do you see anything with lspci?
[22:01] <MrStein> I already created a multiboot USB
[22:01] <MrStein> I just have weird (RAM?) corruption with latest ubuntu
[22:02] <llldino> shomon, What do you mean? Sharing interntet?
[22:02] <chutney> buggy drivers can cause memory corruption
[22:02] <shomon> both computers are connected to the same wifi device, the one that isn't working was working fine 4 months ago when I had it out of it's box last
[22:03] <shomon> llldino, I checked lspci but maybe I need to grep it.. loads of info
[22:03] <warfaren_> so.. i use a PS/2 mouse and i want to increase the polling rate of it. i found this: http://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/45/archive/00/00/08/77/87711.html but i don't have /etc/X11/XF86Config. guess that's obsolete as that thread is from 2004?
[22:03] <shomon> Realtek Semiconductor Co is the last line though
[22:03] <llldino> shomon, You said Grep lan didn't show anything, maybe scroll through the list and look for a wireless LAn card. Did you do LAN in caps?
[22:03] <compex> johnjohn101 - I honestly have no idea. I had to set up my friend's desktop with linux last thursday and he was running an nvidia card (forget which) and it went without a hitch
[22:03] <shomon> yes and without :)
[22:04] <usr13> !memtest | MrStein
[22:04] <llldino> shomon, You're probably going to have to install the driver manually then. What card do you have?
[22:04] <shomon> but I'm not connected over wireless
[22:04] <shomon> there is no wireless card, only eth0 straight to the wifi box
[22:04] <MrStein> usr13: it only happens with ubuntu 13.04, others are fine
[22:04] <llldino> shomon, ..What's your issue? You want Wifi cxn right?
[22:04] <shomon> no
[22:04] <johnjohn101> compex: thanks.  just trying to figure out new equipment.   seriously my intel box at home is 5 years old and runs all ubuntu features on a live cd
[22:04] <shomon> I want eth0
[22:04] <shomon> no wifi on this computer
[22:05] <shomon> I am connecting via cat5 cable direct to wifi modem
[22:05] <MrStein> you mean "router"
[22:05] <shomon> but it used to work.. now I don't know why it stopped, but something is read only
[22:05] <shomon> yeah sorry
[22:05] <usr13> MrStein: You "have weird (RAM?) corruption with latest ubuntu"?
[22:06] <usr13> MrStein: What is your question?  (I'm afraid we do not understand.)
[22:06] <llldino> shomon, Try a different cable? Or verify the cable works. Does the port on your  modem/cpu work?
[22:06] <shomon> I have tried a few. ok will change port on the router, I hadn't tried that!
[22:06] <gridwest> I am looking for a free Avery 5931/8931 cd & dvd labeling template to use in GIMP.  I have already check the
[22:06] <chutney> MrStein, if it doesn't happen with other versions, you might have gotten a bad livecd download, or it could be buggy drivers in 13
[22:06] <MrStein> us13: is there a RAM/filesystem/dev corruption bug in latest ubnut? because I experience it.
[22:06] <llldino> shomon, And doers lspci -v | grep Ethernet give anything?
[22:07] <genii-around> Maybe the adapter is old and can't autodetect from straight-thru to crossover
[22:07] <gridwest> ...avery site.  does anyone know where I can find free Avery 5931/8931 cd labeling template?
[22:07] <usr13> MrStein: I don't think so.
[22:07] <MrStein> chutney: the md5sum is OK, so the download is not bad
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, I have seen md5's be correct and yet corrupt.
[22:08] <shomon> hmm
[22:08] <shomon> I plugged it into another port on the router, and the computer just hung
[22:08] <shomon> :)
[22:09] <shomon> ah well, restarting. I guess something interesting has happened...
[22:10] <llldino> shomon, You can try restarting the modem too. I know my modem gets weird if it's left on for a long time. Clear DHCP cache too for good measure
[22:10] <Dr_willis> for a straight cable connection. either you need a crossover cable. (or a hub) or one (or both) of the nics need to  have that Auto Sensceing feature. I think all the 1000speed nics have that feature
[22:10] <shomon> ok well.. I'll be gone for a bit if I do that, back now!
[22:10] <llldino> shomon, gl
[22:10] <usr13> gridwest: avery.com
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> gridwest, I see nothing on the web for ubuntu or linux
[22:11] <warfaren> auto sensing has been around for ages i think.. even my old xbox (from 2001) has it
[22:11] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: would you trust sha256sum?
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, I think you are caught up in assumptions, that is what I accept. ;)
[22:12] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: I just checke sha256 , it is OK.
[22:12] <gridwest> Alright thanks, I check the avery site and downloaded a template for 5931/8931 and it does not work well, thanks for the help.
[22:13] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: you do realize how unlikely it is to get correct MD5 (and SHA256) for a bad download?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, Could be your usb setup try one that is known to work.
[22:13] <shomon> hi again
[22:13] <llldino> shomon, Did it work?
[22:13] <shomon> while booting, the computer said "waiting for network configuration" for a while
[22:13] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: this one works, I have 10 ISOs on it that worked until now
[22:13] <shomon> I'm waiting to log in now.. it didn't seem to find a connection though
[22:13] <MrStein> also the 2 I tried now continue to work
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, It does not seem to work for what you are trying, this is an assumption, however you are assuming it does.
[22:14] <llldino> shomon, Try lspci -v | grep Ethernet
[22:14] <shomon> ok.. still in the darkness of slow login :S
[22:14] <MrStein> gotta go, thanks for everything...
[22:15] <shomon> 02:00 0 Ethernet controller: realtek Semiconductor Co. , Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102EPCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[22:16] <faLUCE> hello, I installed windows 7 on a system with ubuntu, but now I can't choose boot with grub and I'm forced to boot windows. how can I fix that? Is there a grub rescue iso?
[22:17] <warfaren> faLUCE: you can boot a live cd, chroot and install grub again. or you can use EasyBCD from windows to add ubuntu into its boot menu
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> !grub | faLUCE
[22:17] <usr13> faLUCE: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[22:17] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | faLUCE
[22:17] <llldino> shomon, Still no connection?
[22:17] <shomon> llldino, it works now, but I had to manually run "start network-manager" as sudo
[22:18] <llldino> shomon, Oh just add that to the startup script then; though it should automatically start
[22:18] <shomon> where is the startup script?
[22:18] <faLUCE> warfaren: easybcd is not free... is there anything similar and free for windows?
[22:19] <redj1122> can i get help here for arpspoof? or what would be the more appropriate channel?
[22:19] <shomon> llldino, do you know where I might find the startup script? it's ubuntu 12.04
[22:19] <warfaren> faLUCE: it's free for private use.
[22:20] <llldino> shomon, Go to Settings > Startup and add network manager to startup programs
[22:20] <shomon> thanks!
[22:20] <gustav> Hello. I'm trying to setup exim. Having some trouble with it claiming not to be able to bind to port 25, but it is in fact bound to it. It's not accept connections on it, though.
[22:20] <llldino> shomon, There's probably an easier way but that goes beyond the scope of my knowledge
[22:20] <redj1122> where would i go to talk about arpspoof? backtrack wasn't very helpful
[22:20] <shomon> hmm another question then. how do I get rid of unity or whatever this line of icons is down the side of the screen
[22:21] <savio> Hi all
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, try kali-linux
[22:21] <Dr_willis> shomon,  use a differnt desktop.
[22:21] <llldino> shomon, Install xubuntu instead :)
[22:21] <shomon> I'd rather have the old fashioned thing I used to have :)
[22:21] <faLUCE> warfaren: thanks
[22:21] <usr13> shomon: ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop etc.
[22:21] <shomon> so no way of removing that and running xfce or something with ubuntu?
[22:21] <Dr_willis> !nounity | shojo
[22:21] <redj1122> it's not the distro i have a problem with. arpspoof -i wlan0 -t (target) (router) returns with "couldn't arp for host ..."
[22:21] <usr13> shomon: I use xubuntu-desktop
[22:21] <Dr_willis> shomon,  you can easially install xubuntu-desktop and have xfce
[22:21] <warfaren> faLUCE: no worries. if they're making you register just search for "easybcd free" and you'll surely find it somewhere else :P
[22:21] <shomon> cool, thanks!
[22:22] <shomon> sorry shojo for the info spam :)
[22:22] <Dr_willis> ;)
[22:22] <usr13> shomon: just do  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <redj1122> oh i see, go to their channel. alright
[22:22] <shomon> cool, thanks usr13
[22:22] <gridwest>  thank you for the help :)
[22:23] <Dr_willis> 13.10 + the gnome 3.8 ppas have the gnome devs official gnome-2 look mode i belive.
[22:23] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, that happens when target is down
[22:23] <shomon> thanks llldino and Dr_willis too!
[22:23] <shojo> shomon: ???
[22:24] <highlander4fun> Boa noite
[22:24] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i've confirmed with ping
[22:24] <highlander4fun> alguem me ajuda a adicionar o windows 8 como opção de boot no ubuntu 12.04
[22:24] <llldino> shojo, Np
[22:25] <highlander4fun> ubuntu não ta achando meu windows 8 quando uso o comando update-grub
[22:25] <llldino> shomon, Np
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, double check wlan0 is the interface
[22:26] <redj1122> done. the only others are eth0 and lo
[22:26] <redj1122> sorry, i mean gr33n7007h i'm sure. i don't want to be in monitor mode do I?
[22:27] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, no not in monitor mode
[22:27] <tyrog> Hello, is there a stable PPA for Unity in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[22:27] <redj1122> right, that's what i thought.
[22:27] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, is there any way to tell where it's failing? would logs say?
[22:27] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, it could only be target ip or router ip addresses are wrong then
[22:27] <tyrog> !pt
[22:28] <dward> how should I redo an upgrade that stopped half way through?
[22:28] <tyrog> Hello, is there a stable PPA for Unity in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS??
[22:29] <savio> PPA is build my users
[22:31] <savio> Ppa might make system unstable
[22:31] <tyrog> savio: Actually, not all of them
[22:32] <savio> tyrog: some might as ur are asking about unity PPA
[22:38] <cpare> All - have there been patched since the 13.04 release?  My Software updater still reports no updates
[22:38] <cpare> I am wondering if I am missing a repository, or have a partial upgrade
[22:39] <savio> tyrog: once I tried gnome 3.6 ppa for my 12.10 it works fine with minor crash
[22:39] <Dr_willis> cpare,  try a 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[22:40] <cpare> Dr_willis - it still reports no updates needed
[22:40] <minetape> hello, where does Ubuntu plop home on the hard drive?
[22:41] <Dr_willis> cpare,  then you are up to date.
[22:41] <cpare> minetape /home
[22:41]  * minetape facepalm
[22:41] <Dr_willis> minetape,  default install puts / and home on he same parittion........
[22:41] <cpare> Dr_willis - I find it hard to believe no updates 7 days after upgrading to a new release
[22:41] <minetape> There is no home on the hard drive
[22:41] <Dr_willis> cpare,  if apt says no.. then you are uo to date.
[22:42] <Dr_willis> cpare,  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   perhaps
[22:42] <Dr_willis> mindstorm,  cd /home/ does what then?
[22:42] <cpare> Dr_willis - or my repositories are wrong
[22:43] <minetape> I'm on a vector Linux live cd, were do I find home?
[22:43] <Dr_willis> minetape,  every disrto ive ever seen uses /home/
[22:43] <cpare> Has anyone seen a 13.04 Software update?
[22:43] <OerHeks> cpare, there were 2 updates today, skype and one more
[22:43] <Dr_willis> No idea what vector linux is.. so i suggest checking its own forums/support channels
[22:44] <cpare> OerHeks - ok then, I must have a bad repository mapped
[22:44] <OerHeks> but that is for 64 bit.
[22:44] <cpare> Oerheks - Thanks, I wanted to make sure there had been something
[22:44] <jrib> OerHeks: isn't skype in partner?
[22:44] <OerHeks> cpare, maybe not bad repo's, chgange the mirror
[22:44] <akaSoldats> :o
[22:45] <OerHeks> jrib yes.
[22:45] <w30>  /part
[22:45] <jrib> cpare: you may just not have partner enabled
[22:45] <cpare> jrib - I do have partner enabled
[22:45] <minetape> Whoever just pinged me, PM me, because free node an safari won't let me scroll
[22:45] <OerHeks> jrib skype and apparmor 2.8.0
[22:45] <jrib> minetape: minimize and unminimize
[22:46] <cpare> Xchat
[22:49] <Nkd> someone in here who is a master on SQL?
[22:49] <cpare> Nkd - I may be able to help
[22:50] <cpare> Nkd - I work in Business Intelligence
[22:50] <Nkd> Ok i will send the quistion i have in school
[22:51] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, does one card have to be connected to the network while another does all the spoofing? i don't think so
[22:52] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, no
[22:52] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, if i don't specify a target it will hold indefinitely but never shows any replies
[22:53] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, thats right there will be no output if you don't specify a target it spoofs the entire subnet
[22:54] <jefferson> Hi, I am new here, but I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.04 in Dell XPS 15 using two monitors
[22:54] <Nkd> Cpare: "The tax authority wants a list of persons working for company called Nordic Power. The list should only include the person identity numbers"
[22:54] <Nkd> Cpare; maybe not so tuff quistion for you but still helpfull if you give me some input how to manage this in SQL
[22:55] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, perhaps it's because i'm using my iphone. how do i scan for connected ip's. netmap?
[22:55] <cpare> Nkd - What do the tables look like?
[22:55] <cpare> Nkd - can I assume it's a single table
[22:55] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, nmap yes
[22:55] <michealPW> I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 ony my ASUS K75DE laptop. I'm having Power Management issues.
[22:56] <michealPW> Kubuntu sleeps fine and resumes from sleep fine, if I manually put it to sleep... However it will not seem to do anything on its own.
[22:56] <torpet> hi, i have a major problem with my thinkpad touchpad
[22:57] <michealPW> For example, it will not Dim the Backlight, does not turn the screen off or put the laptop to sleep if left idle, even for extended periods of time.
[22:57] <torpet> whenever i use it to move the cursor and a second finger touches the pad, it stops moving
[22:57] <torpet> *the cursor stops moving
[22:57] <torpet> is there a way to disable that and emulator macbook behavior?
[22:57] <torpet> *emulate
[22:58] <cpare> Nkd - Assuming it's all in one table called Nkd_Data, and the table fields are (Company_Name, Person_ID, Person_Name) the SQL would be "Select Person_ID from Nkd_Data where Company_Name='Nordic Power'"
[22:58] <cpare> Nkd - do you have a table mapping for the database?
[22:59] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, nmap isn't coming back with anything
[22:59] <Nkd> tblCompany wich has ComID and ComName in it , and the you have the tblcitizen with citsSocSecNo, CitFirstName, CitLastName, CitMarriedTo , TaxKey and CitLastVisit
[23:00] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, what command did you use?
[23:00] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, nmap xx.xx.xx.1-254
[23:01] <Nkd> Cpare: tblCompany wich has ComID and ComName in it , and the you have the tblcitizen with citsSocSecNo, CitFirstName, CitLastName, CitMarriedTo , TaxKey and CitLastVisit
[23:01] <cpare> Nkd - tblcompany is going to be a lookup table, are you familiar with those?
[23:02] <cpare> Nkd - and tblcitizen has the info for each "Citizen"
[23:02] <cpare> Nkd - tblCompany will have the company info
[23:03] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, try redj1122 try:  netdiscover -i wlan0 -r routerip/24
[23:03] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i think my problem is that my iphone is at xx.xx.55.13 while i'm at xx.xx.24.15
[23:03] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i'll try that
[23:03] <cpare> Nkd - So we will need to do an inner join on ComID
[23:04] <cpare> Nkd - or we could do a nested select, but that's probably not what your instructor wants to see
[23:05] <Nkd> Cpare: ok yeah it feels like im not far away but still something is wrong on this
[23:06] <cpare> Nkd - Is there another table
[23:06] <cpare> Nkd - I don't see a ComID in the tblCitizen
[23:07] <cpare> nkd - so there is no clear way to join them
[23:07] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, that was successful. i'm arping for the client-router, but get my previous problem when trying to tell the router i'm the client
[23:08] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, in so many words, i'm halfway working
[23:08] <Nkd> Cpare: yea you have a tblCompany with ComRegId and ComName
[23:08] <Nkd> Cpare: maybe thats need to be involved to
[23:09] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, use arpspoof twice 1) target router  2) router target
[23:10] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i'm failing on router target
[23:10] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, "can't arp as..."
[23:10] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, what is your router ip your ip and target ip?
[23:11] <cpare> Nkd - so ComName is the company name
[23:12] <darthanubis> anyone here use autofs?
[23:12] <darthanubis> !autofs
[23:12] <Nkd> Cpare: yes that would be right i think
[23:12] <cpare> Nkd - but how do we get to the Citizen table - we have to find a table that references the ComID
[23:13] <edunat> spike spanish?...
[23:14] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, router: xxx.xx.54.1, my ip: xxx.xx.24.15, target: xxx.xx.24.96
[23:15] <Nkd> Cpare: hmm yea thats my biggest quistionmark to, for me who just got the basics this is wierd. I know its hard for you now when you don't see the tables or relationships fully
[23:15] <cpare> Nkd - How many total tables in the example
[23:15] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, just to confirm where do i find the router ip?
[23:15] <Yoshie> ubuntu 13.04 64 bit MotherBoard ASROCK n68-vs3 fx   Not connected to the internet , http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[23:15] <cpare> Nkd - I am only aware of two from what you have given me
[23:16] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, route -n
[23:16] <sylflo> hi people
[23:16] <Yoshie> hello sylflo
[23:16] <Volk> Oh god.
[23:17] <edunat> Volk: Spike Spanish?, Plis?
[23:18] <cpare> Nkd - my list so far is
[23:18] <cpare> TblCompany
[23:18] <cpare> 	ComID
[23:18] <cpare> 	ComName
[23:18] <cpare> tblCitizen
[23:18] <cpare> 	citsSocSecNo
[23:18] <FloodBot1> cpare: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <edunat> +z
[23:19] <sylflo> why do you like ubuntu ? it 's a bad os
[23:19] <Yoshie> than why are you on an Ubuntu channel ?
[23:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here had success setting up bitlbee with skype?
[23:19] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, that was the problem
[23:19] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, What was it?
[23:20] <edunat> Plis...canal in spanish?...
[23:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | edunat
[23:20] <sylflo> join #bsd
[23:20] <edunat> Gracias. Tank you!
[23:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD
[23:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> edunat: de nada
[23:21] <Yoshie> sylflo and your using Free BSD I presume ?
[23:21]  * betrayd hands sylflo a slash
[23:22] <sylflo> i was i'm on arch
[23:23] <sylflo> ubuntu was better before i don't like it now
[23:23] <sylflo> but i think it's a good os for people who come from Windows
[23:24] <Yoshie> ubuntu 13.04 64 bit MotherBoard ASROCK n68-vs3 fx   Not connected to the internet , http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[23:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> sylflo: honestly I think xubuntu is a good starter from windows <7, similar ui and all
[23:27] <sylflo> ubuntu or xubuntu it's the same it's the graphic interface which change that's all
[23:27] <Yoshie> sylflo if you really want to be happy, if you got enough skill that is..... Id say go with Gentoo :)
[23:28] <sylflo> I don't like to compile with source it's too long
[23:28] <sylflo> it did it with kde 4 hour
[23:28] <Yoshie> lol, alright..
[23:28] <sylflo> on freebsd
[23:28] <sylflo> it nice if you need to change the code
[23:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> sylflo: exactly, which is why I think {l,x}ubuntu would be better for new users from windows versions <=7, as the ui is more similar than unity.
[23:29] <sylflo> i agree ntzrmtthihu777
[23:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> :P
[23:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> personally I started with lucid, so I was rather miffed at the advent of unity. then I gave xubuntu a try lately and fell right in love :P
[23:30] <sylflo> i started with ubuntu then freebsd then archlinux
[23:30] <daftykins> yeah unity is to older ubuntus as windows 8 is to <=7
[23:32] <Oryx> You know, it kind of upsets me that Nautilus understands smb (Samba) and not nfs out of the box :(
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, strange no?
[23:34] <akkosh> hello
[23:34] <gustavo_cm> Hello there! Does aMule 2.3.1-1 in 12.04 crashes with X errors to someone here? Running it from CLI, I get mainly "[xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue {newline}[xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called". (I'm using Trisquel, which is based off Ubuntu. I'm asking here to know if it is a Trisquel-specific bug.)
[23:37] <daftykins> gustavo_cm: the best you'll get here is that they'll say, if it isn't ubuntu, no support
[23:38] <gustavo_cm> daftykins: thanks. I'm just asking if somebody have heard of that; if not, it's probably my_distro-specific, or even a weird personal bug.
[23:46] <gustavo_cm> More likely a weird personal bug which doesn't happen to my distro's folks. Bye :-)
[23:46] <visor> hello, I have just bought a new computer and it has two internal SSD's, in a RAID array I guess, is there any performance or concern in the BIOS method for the disks? I have IDE/RAID/AHCI modes but I wonder if I should change it, it is raid by default, but have read that AHCI is better, any advice?
[23:48] <Irish_Wolf> hello all, anyone know how I can uninstall tweak?
[23:48] <Irish_Wolf> I tried sudo dpkg -r ubuntu-tweak
[23:48] <cpare> Visor - what do you want out of the double SSD setup, Fault Tolerance
[23:49] <cpare> Visor - SSD in a mirrored set seems like a costly option
[23:49] <Irish_Wolf> better question, is there a way to list installed programs?
[23:49] <bray90820> Are there any official torrents of 13.04
[23:49]  * r00t-err0r AFK
[23:50] <cpare> Visor - I use my SSD for the OS Only, and put my content on a Raid5 thats huge
[23:50] <stercor> If I 'do-release-upgrade,' does it re-partition the hard drive?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, Yes on the ubuntu site
[23:52] <visor> cpare: It is an ultrabook, and it is advertised as a 128gb SSD, however when I turned it on and started looking at the specs I found that there are internally two disks with fdisk
[23:52] <bray90820> i can't seem to find them
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[23:53] <visor> cpare: So before wiping the disk and install Linux I wanted to make sure the right settings are in the BIOS since I've never used Linux on SSD's, and I read somewhere that using AHCI over RAID in the BIOS setting is better for some TRIM command which makes disk life longer
[23:53] <bray90820> Thank you
[23:54] <visor> but many things are being said on the internet... better ask someone with experience :)
[23:54] <bray90820> so it's above 700MB now?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> yes
[23:55] <bray90820> so no more cd suppoet
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, You can do the net install 30 MB
[23:55] <bray90820> i will just use my flash drive
[23:55] <cpare> visor - I have a 256gb SSD in my XPS M1530, so I can speak with some authority :)
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> self imposed authority, lol
[23:56] <cpare> visor - I am on Ubuntu 13.04 and didn't do any significant tweaks
[23:56] <visor> cpare: sure you can, and that's why I prefer to ask here than read forums, so what mode do you use for your disk?
[23:57] <cpare> visor - but I did verify the BIOS setting your talking about
[23:57] <shomon> how can I get that help again to replace unity? I'm installing xubuntu desktop
[23:57] <shomon> !shomon unityfree
[23:57] <shomon> hmm
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> shomon: I was doing the same, but it did not go too well
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> !unityfree
[23:58] <shomon> lol... oops
[23:58] <shomon> aaah that's it
[23:58] <cpare> visor - My setting was AHCI (I believe) - starting my other laptop up to verify
[23:58] <shomon> !unityfree
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> shomon, removing unity is not a good idea, if you want xubuntu only install the xubuntu download.
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> shomon: it doesnt exist, apparenlty.
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> !nounity
[23:58] <shomon> aah that's it, thanks wilee-nilee
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> shomon: what wilee-nilee said. I tried migrating from unity to xfce and it was not too pretty.
[23:59] <shomon> I did that on debian once and it was well worth it
[23:59] <shomon> anything to get rid of that abomination
[23:59] <visor> cpare: I'd really appreciate if you take the time to check the setting :) I just don't want to do further troubleshooting, if AHCI is better supported on Linux then that'll be the one I set
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> You can have unity and xfce, you just have the unity apps is all.
[23:59] <visor> cpare: thanks