| * smartboyhw likes holidays like today | 03:25 | |
| ReikiDan | hi | 05:24 |
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| ReikiDan | @chanserv volunteer | 05:25 |
| smartboyhw | What? | 05:28 |
| ReikiDan | how do I register to login? | 05:30 |
| smartboyhw | ReikiDan: Login what? | 05:32 |
| === smartboyhw__ is now known as smartboyhw | ||
| smartboyhw | Whoa that's abrupt, Fuduntu decided to close down INMEDIATELY starting from two days earlier | 08:06 |
| smartboyhw | R.I.P GNOME 2 | 08:06 |
| DarkEra | morning | 08:42 |
| smartboyhw | Hello DarkEra | 08:43 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: So Fuduntu Project completely ended two days ago:O | 08:43 |
| DarkEra | i know | 08:43 |
| DarkEra | :) | 08:43 |
| smartboyhw | R.I.P. GNOME 2 and Fuduntu | 08:43 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: That's quite abrupt | 08:44 |
| DarkEra | yep, because the majority of the users went on to other distro's | 08:44 |
| DarkEra | fewt retired so he isn't in charge anymore from now on | 08:46 |
| DarkEra | FuSe will mostlikely use Consort DE from SolusOS, which isn't even out yet and under heavy development. Plus the fact it's just another Gnome 3 fork.... like Cinnamon | 08:47 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: Yeah | 08:48 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw, but hey, i have found my way back home and i'm happy here ;) | 08:48 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: I don't understand why so many people liked GNOME 2 though | 08:48 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: \o/ | 08:49 |
| DarkEra | Well, Gnome 2 has been one of the major DE's for many years, so people got used to it. When Gnome 3 and Unity came out some of the 'old guys' refused to work with that because they don't like the whole concept of Gnome 3 and Unity. | 08:51 |
| DarkEra | to them these DE's are just touch/tablet interfaces | 08:52 |
| DarkEra | they want to use the mouse to point and click, not willing to learn to work with keyboard shortcuts etc | 08:54 |
| DarkEra | don't tell me i've been 'talking' for nothing now and you missed all of it smartboyhw_ lol | 08:55 |
| DarkEra | doh | 08:56 |
| DarkEra | :D | 08:56 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: doh what? | 08:56 |
| DarkEra | <DarkEra> don't tell me i've been 'talking' for nothing now and you missed all of it smartboyhw_ lol | 08:56 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: If people don't like Xfce or KDE or GNOME 3 or Cinnamon or MATE or Unity they should really change their art perspective | 08:57 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: I'm sorry, but GNOME 2 is simply Windows XP… | 08:58 |
| falktx | smartboyhw_: I think the issue is that, compared to gnome2, gnome3 kinda sucks | 08:59 |
| falktx | maybe things are a bit better now, but older versions were not good... | 09:00 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, i agree. What i don't understand is that Xfce almost looks and acts like Gnome 2, still the nay sayers refuse to use it. Even the Fuduntu team when i proposed it. If they had switched over to Xfce they could have used GTK3 and continue with the project | 09:00 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Yep | 09:01 |
| smartboyhw_ | I mean, at least the others are more moderb | 09:01 |
| smartboyhw_ | *modern | 09:01 |
| smartboyhw_ | GNOME 2 is crap since it is too traditional | 09:01 |
| smartboyhw_ | Tech evolves | 09:01 |
| DarkEra | falktx, just like with KDE 4 when it first came out Gnome 3 also has to evolve to a mature level | 09:02 |
| smartboyhw_ | And people just can't accept new things | 09:02 |
| DarkEra | true | 09:02 |
| falktx | it's hard to accept things when they are forced upon you | 09:03 |
| falktx | when you don't have a choice | 09:03 |
| smartboyhw_ | falktx: One has the choice not to use GNOME | 09:03 |
| falktx | they wanted gnome2, but it wasn't there anymore | 09:03 |
| smartboyhw_ | So many GNOME 3 forks out there are good enough | 09:03 |
| smartboyhw_ | KDE LXDE Xfce | 09:04 |
| smartboyhw_ | Cinnamon MATE Unity | 09:04 |
| DarkEra | there seems to be a distro that ditches Gnome 3 and goes back to Gnome 2, i forgot which one it was | 09:05 |
| DarkEra | ah, Calculate Linux | 09:05 |
| DarkEra | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Calculate-Linux-13-4-Ditches-GNOME-3-in-favor-of-GNOME-2-347230.shtml | 09:06 |
| DarkEra | MATE is a Gnome 2 fork but they will get into trouble soon i guess | 09:07 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: agreed | 09:08 |
| DarkEra | brb ----> kids | 09:10 |
| DarkEra | also Cinnamon is running into trouble because they can't or couldn't keep it up making it compatible with gnome 3.6 and 3.8. Cinnarch switched to Gnome 3 because of that | 09:17 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Yep | 09:17 |
| smartboyhw_ | GNOME is a complete mess | 09:17 |
| DarkEra | Gnome just needs time | 09:18 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Fortunately when GNOME 2 died we switched to Xfce (thanks ScottL) | 09:19 |
| DarkEra | i like it so far, especially the 3.8 release | 09:19 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: :) | 09:19 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, yep i know :) | 09:19 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Or rather: GNOME forks are a mess:P | 09:19 |
| DarkEra | it's the best thing that he could have done. Xfce fits in well | 09:20 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, yeah | 09:20 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: heh there is some strange thing that some people didn't use Ubuntu Studio cause there is NO Unity | 09:21 |
| DarkEra | Cinnamon is great for LMDE and the ubuntu based mint, but for a more true rolling release distro it's not | 09:21 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, wah? | 09:21 |
| DarkEra | really? | 09:22 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: https://plus.google.com/110039687189146809887/posts/AwHmECdkRsk (you left a comment also) | 09:23 |
| DarkEra | let me guess, that why Dream Studio has been created and is based on Ubuntu with the Unity desktop :) | 09:23 |
| smartboyhw_ | That was the longest G+ comment I ever made | 09:23 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: probably | 09:24 |
| DarkEra | ah yes, that one | 09:24 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: You know Dick Macinnis was once our Artwork Lead? | 09:24 |
| DarkEra | i thought he only made one wallpaper, the one that is used on 12.04 and 12.10 | 09:25 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: dunno | 09:26 |
| * smartboyhw_ doesn't know much before 12.08 | 09:26 | |
| smartboyhw_ | lol | 09:26 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: ttoine knows much more (he's the co-founder of Ubuntu Studio:P) | 09:27 |
| DarkEra | well, the wallpaper that is used in both versions is his work. For the rest i don't know what Dick did. :) | 09:27 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, co-founder? So we have a ancient ubu stu guru around here :D | 09:28 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Damn it I got too used to zequence's wallpaper I completely forgotten the old one… | 09:28 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Yep | 09:28 |
| DarkEra | lol | 09:28 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: There is a channel log of here one early April (or late March) where I and zequence had a "Ubuntu Studio history" lesson from ttoine | 09:29 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, http://goo.gl/FjRNt | 09:31 |
| smartboyhw_ | Probably earlier, I am sure madeinkobaia haven't joined that time | 09:31 |
| DarkEra | ah ok, i'll look into that soon then, should be fun | 09:31 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Oh that one:P | 09:32 |
| DarkEra | we all together should rent a office and get together while working on things :P | 09:33 |
| DarkEra | that's on "together" too much | 09:35 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: LOL:) | 09:35 |
| smartboyhw_ | zequence: When I was trying to find ttoine's log I found http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/20/%23ubuntustudio-devel.html and seriously I'm not the youngest member. benonsoftware here applied when he was 12:P | 09:49 |
| smartboyhw_ | And got it | 09:51 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: Damn the history lesson was after madeinkobaia joined http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/04/03/%23ubuntustudio-devel.html | 10:01 |
| DarkEra | lol... i went on a search myself. :D | 10:02 |
| DarkEra | thanks for the link smartboyhw :) | 10:02 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: :) the middle part | 10:02 |
| DarkEra | ok, thanks | 10:04 |
| smartboyhw | Ah good, let me add into our blueprints: Add a wiki page to talk about Ubuntu Studio's history:P | 10:05 |
| zequence | Just had a quick go using Lightworks | 10:19 |
| zequence | audio was choppy | 10:19 |
| zequence | sure there are lots of other bugs | 10:20 |
| zequence | I'm sure video editors will appreciate it | 10:20 |
| DarkEra | heya zequence | 10:21 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw, that was a nice read :) | 10:21 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: DarkEra: :) | 10:22 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: Did you receive my message yesterday about supporting knome for XPL election? | 10:23 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Yes, I did. I also had a talk with knome in person | 10:29 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: Oh | 10:29 |
| zequence | Are the elections today? | 10:30 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Do you have a link to the election page? | 10:30 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-users/+poll/xubuntu-xpl-2013 today 15:00 UTC till tmr 15:00 UTC | 10:31 |
| smartboyhw | You DID join the team right? | 10:32 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: I didn't. Since I'm not involved in Xubuntu development, I'm not going to take part in voting either | 10:33 |
| zequence | going outdoors for a while | 10:33 |
| smartboyhw | zequence: OK. I am taking dinner soon also | 10:34 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: Did I miss anything after I said I am going for dinner? I'm back from it | 12:21 |
| DarkEra | wb smartboyhw | 12:23 |
| DarkEra | no you didn't miss anything, it's been quiet | 12:24 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra: :) | 12:24 |
| smartboyhw | Hello madeinkobaia | 13:40 |
| madeinkobaia | Hi smartboyhw :) | 13:41 |
| DarkEra | heya madeinkobaia | 13:42 |
| DarkEra | i kinda missed your last messages yesterday so that's why i didn't reply | 13:42 |
| DarkEra | you were gone by then.. LOL | 13:43 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : No problems ;) that's what I guess. | 13:43 |
| DarkEra | :D | 13:43 |
| madeinkobaia | For those who're interesting, I put on line some graphical branding studies for our OS, a square format : http://sta.sh/01ksyv29jaly and a poster project : http://sta.sh/0l23undp08x, both are mockups, just mixing some ideas. | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia: Good ones!!!!! | 13:49 |
| madeinkobaia | smartboyhw : Thanks :) | 13:50 |
| DarkEra | i deffo like the second one | 13:51 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : Ok. | 13:52 |
| DarkEra | it looks really great :) | 13:55 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : :) Thanks a lot. | 13:59 |
| DarkEra | yw :) | 14:02 |
| DarkEra | i'm going for my daily walk... helps to calm my mind :) | 14:34 |
| DarkEra | bbl | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: :) | 14:35 |
| DarkEra | i'll stay online but away. If anything then let me know so i can read it back later on | 14:35 |
| smartboyhw_ | DarkEra: Cheers;) | 14:36 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : How was your walk ? | 18:07 |
| DarkEra | madeinkobaia, it was nice :) | 18:08 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : No better thing than walkin' (in a nice place) for aerate the spirit. | 18:11 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : I am not sure of the literal translation from French on "aerate the spirit" but I guess you understand :P | 18:12 |
| DarkEra | i do it on a daily base when i can and yep i understand what you mean | 18:12 |
| DarkEra | :) | 18:12 |
| DarkEra | it's good to set my mind on something else, get a clear head | 18:13 |
| DarkEra | being busy with two little kids can be stressfull sometimes :D | 18:14 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : I have that when playing music too. | 18:14 |
| DarkEra | music is always good for the soul :) | 18:14 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : I don't have children yet, but I can imagine could be stress sometimes. | 18:15 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : Music is good for all :D | 18:15 |
| DarkEra | all is great and beautiful when they are babies but when they reach 2 or 3 years they take up all the energy | 18:16 |
| DarkEra | but still, i love them to bits | 18:16 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : That's the essential. | 18:17 |
| DarkEra | madeinkobaia, i started working on something and first time using opensource software. It will take some time but i'm convinced i can pull it off to have a full new track at some point | 18:18 |
| DarkEra | there will be a new blogpost coming up soon where i explain a few things | 18:19 |
| DarkEra | madeinkobaia, and yep that's true | 18:20 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : Great, otherwise I am sorry I can't find anymore the link you send me about your music : ( | 18:20 |
| DarkEra | madeinkobaia, oh. no problem. Hold on i'll paste it in a minute | 18:23 |
| DarkEra | https://soundcloud.com/mathius-quest | 18:23 |
| DarkEra | here you go :) | 18:24 |
| DarkEra | the tomb raider track was made in 2008 on a iMac that died on me some time later and all the other tracks were made between 2000 and 2003 on a playstation 1 and playstation 2 | 18:25 |
| madeinkobaia | Ok, I will check that. | 18:28 |
| DarkEra | ok :) | 18:29 |
| zequence | DarkEra: nice work on the music | 18:31 |
| zequence | I haven't heard much of it yet, and usually I only need to listen a few seconds to get a picture, but your music seems to have arrangements that have such a big impact on the big picture, that one needs to listen to at least a good part of it to get an idea | 18:33 |
| DarkEra | zequence, thank you very much :) | 18:33 |
| DarkEra | and those were made on a ps1 and 2.... go figure :D | 18:34 |
| DarkEra | loads of work with only a game controller i tell you but it was fun to do | 18:36 |
| zequence | Some kind of tracker program? | 18:36 |
| zequence | I've never seen anyone make music on PS before | 18:36 |
| zequence | A friend was using his Amiga once | 18:37 |
| zequence | We even were able to record short samples with it | 18:37 |
| zequence | Or, was that on a Atari, I forget | 18:37 |
| zequence | A tracker program anyway | 18:37 |
| DarkEra | on the PS 1 i had a program called Music 2000. You could create clips by clicking on it so that a window opened just like a midi editor. | 18:39 |
| DarkEra | the other one on the PS 2 was called MTV Music Generator iirc | 18:39 |
| DarkEra | both also contained ready to use samlpes and you had oneshots etc. to create your own stuff | 18:40 |
| DarkEra | bbl, seems like i'm needed here :) | 18:42 |
| madeinkobaia | darkera : See you | 18:48 |
| * DarkEra is back | 19:20 | |
| madeinkobaia | My turn, bbl | 19:31 |
| madeinkobaia | :) | 19:31 |
| DarkEra | doh.... lol | 19:32 |
| zequence | I've been talking to the ExTiX guy | 19:38 |
| zequence | He's been under the impression that the symbol was the Ubuntu COF, and had never heard of Ubuntu Studio | 19:38 |
| DarkEra | zequence, oh yeah, i almost forgot to ask about that | 19:56 |
| zequence | I still haven't got any confirmation if he's going to replace the wallpaper or not | 20:04 |
| zequence | He says he's been using it for the past two years | 20:04 |
| DarkEra | i only noticed it when i saw the new release on DW. We'll see what he's going to do then. | 20:05 |
| zequence | I wish someone could tell me the story behind the Ubuntu Studio circle of friends. We really should document it | 20:31 |
| zequence | astraljava: What do you know about the Ubuntu Studio circle of friends symbol? | 20:31 |
| zequence | who made it, for starters? | 20:33 |
| zequence | Once in a while you'll read about people who think the kernel can affect audio sound quality | 22:12 |
| DarkEra | hmmm? | 22:14 |
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