[03:25] * smartboyhw likes holidays like today [05:24] hi [05:25] @chanserv volunteer [05:28] What? [05:30] how do I register to login? [05:32] ReikiDan: Login what? === smartboyhw__ is now known as smartboyhw [08:06] Whoa that's abrupt, Fuduntu decided to close down INMEDIATELY starting from two days earlier [08:06] R.I.P GNOME 2 [08:42] morning [08:43] Hello DarkEra [08:43] DarkEra: So Fuduntu Project completely ended two days ago:O [08:43] i know [08:43] :) [08:43] R.I.P. GNOME 2 and Fuduntu [08:44] DarkEra: That's quite abrupt [08:44] yep, because the majority of the users went on to other distro's [08:46] fewt retired so he isn't in charge anymore from now on [08:47] FuSe will mostlikely use Consort DE from SolusOS, which isn't even out yet and under heavy development. Plus the fact it's just another Gnome 3 fork.... like Cinnamon [08:48] DarkEra: Yeah [08:48] smartboyhw, but hey, i have found my way back home and i'm happy here ;) [08:48] DarkEra: I don't understand why so many people liked GNOME 2 though [08:49] DarkEra: \o/ [08:51] Well, Gnome 2 has been one of the major DE's for many years, so people got used to it. When Gnome 3 and Unity came out some of the 'old guys' refused to work with that because they don't like the whole concept of Gnome 3 and Unity. [08:52] to them these DE's are just touch/tablet interfaces [08:54] they want to use the mouse to point and click, not willing to learn to work with keyboard shortcuts etc [08:55] don't tell me i've been 'talking' for nothing now and you missed all of it smartboyhw_ lol [08:56] doh [08:56] :D [08:56] DarkEra: doh what? [08:56] don't tell me i've been 'talking' for nothing now and you missed all of it smartboyhw_ lol [08:57] DarkEra: If people don't like Xfce or KDE or GNOME 3 or Cinnamon or MATE or Unity they should really change their art perspective [08:58] DarkEra: I'm sorry, but GNOME 2 is simply Windows XP… [08:59] smartboyhw_: I think the issue is that, compared to gnome2, gnome3 kinda sucks [09:00] maybe things are a bit better now, but older versions were not good... [09:00] smartboyhw_, i agree. What i don't understand is that Xfce almost looks and acts like Gnome 2, still the nay sayers refuse to use it. Even the Fuduntu team when i proposed it. If they had switched over to Xfce they could have used GTK3 and continue with the project [09:01] DarkEra: Yep [09:01] I mean, at least the others are more moderb [09:01] *modern [09:01] GNOME 2 is crap since it is too traditional [09:01] Tech evolves [09:02] falktx, just like with KDE 4 when it first came out Gnome 3 also has to evolve to a mature level [09:02] And people just can't accept new things [09:02] true [09:03] it's hard to accept things when they are forced upon you [09:03] when you don't have a choice [09:03] falktx: One has the choice not to use GNOME [09:03] they wanted gnome2, but it wasn't there anymore [09:03] So many GNOME 3 forks out there are good enough [09:04] KDE LXDE Xfce [09:04] Cinnamon MATE Unity [09:05] there seems to be a distro that ditches Gnome 3 and goes back to Gnome 2, i forgot which one it was [09:05] ah, Calculate Linux [09:06] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Calculate-Linux-13-4-Ditches-GNOME-3-in-favor-of-GNOME-2-347230.shtml [09:07] MATE is a Gnome 2 fork but they will get into trouble soon i guess [09:08] DarkEra: agreed [09:10] brb ----> kids [09:17] also Cinnamon is running into trouble because they can't or couldn't keep it up making it compatible with gnome 3.6 and 3.8. Cinnarch switched to Gnome 3 because of that [09:17] DarkEra: Yep [09:17] GNOME is a complete mess [09:18] Gnome just needs time [09:19] DarkEra: Fortunately when GNOME 2 died we switched to Xfce (thanks ScottL) [09:19] i like it so far, especially the 3.8 release [09:19] DarkEra: :) [09:19] smartboyhw_, yep i know :) [09:19] DarkEra: Or rather: GNOME forks are a mess:P [09:20] it's the best thing that he could have done. Xfce fits in well [09:20] smartboyhw_, yeah [09:21] DarkEra: heh there is some strange thing that some people didn't use Ubuntu Studio cause there is NO Unity [09:21] Cinnamon is great for LMDE and the ubuntu based mint, but for a more true rolling release distro it's not [09:21] smartboyhw_, wah? [09:22] really? [09:23] DarkEra: https://plus.google.com/110039687189146809887/posts/AwHmECdkRsk (you left a comment also) [09:23] let me guess, that why Dream Studio has been created and is based on Ubuntu with the Unity desktop :) [09:23] That was the longest G+ comment I ever made [09:24] DarkEra: probably [09:24] ah yes, that one [09:24] DarkEra: You know Dick Macinnis was once our Artwork Lead? [09:25] i thought he only made one wallpaper, the one that is used on 12.04 and 12.10 [09:26] DarkEra: dunno [09:26] * smartboyhw_ doesn't know much before 12.08 [09:26] lol [09:27] DarkEra: ttoine knows much more (he's the co-founder of Ubuntu Studio:P) [09:27] well, the wallpaper that is used in both versions is his work. For the rest i don't know what Dick did. :) [09:28] smartboyhw_, co-founder? So we have a ancient ubu stu guru around here :D [09:28] DarkEra: Damn it I got too used to zequence's wallpaper I completely forgotten the old one… [09:28] DarkEra: Yep [09:28] lol [09:29] DarkEra: There is a channel log of here one early April (or late March) where I and zequence had a "Ubuntu Studio history" lesson from ttoine [09:31] smartboyhw_, http://goo.gl/FjRNt [09:31] Probably earlier, I am sure madeinkobaia haven't joined that time [09:31] ah ok, i'll look into that soon then, should be fun [09:32] DarkEra: Oh that one:P [09:33] we all together should rent a office and get together while working on things :P [09:35] that's on "together" too much [09:35] DarkEra: LOL:) [09:49] zequence: When I was trying to find ttoine's log I found http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/20/%23ubuntustudio-devel.html and seriously I'm not the youngest member. benonsoftware here applied when he was 12:P [09:51] And got it [10:01] DarkEra: Damn the history lesson was after madeinkobaia joined http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/04/03/%23ubuntustudio-devel.html [10:02] lol... i went on a search myself. :D [10:02] thanks for the link smartboyhw :) [10:02] DarkEra: :) the middle part [10:04] ok, thanks [10:05] Ah good, let me add into our blueprints: Add a wiki page to talk about Ubuntu Studio's history:P [10:19] Just had a quick go using Lightworks [10:19] audio was choppy [10:20] sure there are lots of other bugs [10:20] I'm sure video editors will appreciate it [10:21] heya zequence [10:21] smartboyhw, that was a nice read :) [10:22] zequence: DarkEra: :) [10:23] zequence: Did you receive my message yesterday about supporting knome for XPL election? [10:29] smartboyhw: Yes, I did. I also had a talk with knome in person [10:29] zequence: Oh [10:30] Are the elections today? [10:30] smartboyhw: Do you have a link to the election page? [10:31] zequence: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-users/+poll/xubuntu-xpl-2013 today 15:00 UTC till tmr 15:00 UTC [10:32] You DID join the team right? [10:33] smartboyhw: I didn't. Since I'm not involved in Xubuntu development, I'm not going to take part in voting either [10:33] going outdoors for a while [10:34] zequence: OK. I am taking dinner soon also [12:21] DarkEra: Did I miss anything after I said I am going for dinner? I'm back from it [12:23] wb smartboyhw [12:24] no you didn't miss anything, it's been quiet [12:24] DarkEra: :) [13:40] Hello madeinkobaia [13:41] Hi smartboyhw :) [13:42] heya madeinkobaia [13:42] i kinda missed your last messages yesterday so that's why i didn't reply [13:43] you were gone by then.. LOL [13:43] darkera : No problems ;) that's what I guess. [13:43] :D [13:48] For those who're interesting, I put on line some graphical branding studies for our OS, a square format : http://sta.sh/01ksyv29jaly and a poster project : http://sta.sh/0l23undp08x, both are mockups, just mixing some ideas. [13:49] madeinkobaia: Good ones!!!!! [13:50] smartboyhw : Thanks :) [13:51] i deffo like the second one [13:52] darkera : Ok. [13:55] it looks really great :) [13:59] darkera : :) Thanks a lot. [14:02] yw :) [14:34] i'm going for my daily walk... helps to calm my mind :) [14:34] bbl [14:35] DarkEra: :) [14:35] i'll stay online but away. If anything then let me know so i can read it back later on [14:36] DarkEra: Cheers;) [18:07] darkera : How was your walk ? [18:08] madeinkobaia, it was nice :) [18:11] darkera : No better thing than walkin' (in a nice place) for aerate the spirit. [18:12] darkera : I am not sure of the literal translation from French on "aerate the spirit" but I guess you understand :P [18:12] i do it on a daily base when i can and yep i understand what you mean [18:12] :) [18:13] it's good to set my mind on something else, get a clear head [18:14] being busy with two little kids can be stressfull sometimes :D [18:14] darkera : I have that when playing music too. [18:14] music is always good for the soul :) [18:15] darkera : I don't have children yet, but I can imagine could be stress sometimes. [18:15] darkera : Music is good for all :D [18:16] all is great and beautiful when they are babies but when they reach 2 or 3 years they take up all the energy [18:16] but still, i love them to bits [18:17] darkera : That's the essential. [18:18] madeinkobaia, i started working on something and first time using opensource software. It will take some time but i'm convinced i can pull it off to have a full new track at some point [18:19] there will be a new blogpost coming up soon where i explain a few things [18:20] madeinkobaia, and yep that's true [18:20] darkera : Great, otherwise I am sorry I can't find anymore the link you send me about your music : ( [18:23] madeinkobaia, oh. no problem. Hold on i'll paste it in a minute [18:23] https://soundcloud.com/mathius-quest [18:24] here you go :) [18:25] the tomb raider track was made in 2008 on a iMac that died on me some time later and all the other tracks were made between 2000 and 2003 on a playstation 1 and playstation 2 [18:28] Ok, I will check that. [18:29] ok :) [18:31] DarkEra: nice work on the music [18:33] I haven't heard much of it yet, and usually I only need to listen a few seconds to get a picture, but your music seems to have arrangements that have such a big impact on the big picture, that one needs to listen to at least a good part of it to get an idea [18:33] zequence, thank you very much :) [18:34] and those were made on a ps1 and 2.... go figure :D [18:36] loads of work with only a game controller i tell you but it was fun to do [18:36] Some kind of tracker program? [18:36] I've never seen anyone make music on PS before [18:37] A friend was using his Amiga once [18:37] We even were able to record short samples with it [18:37] Or, was that on a Atari, I forget [18:37] A tracker program anyway [18:39] on the PS 1 i had a program called Music 2000. You could create clips by clicking on it so that a window opened just like a midi editor. [18:39] the other one on the PS 2 was called MTV Music Generator iirc [18:40] both also contained ready to use samlpes and you had oneshots etc. to create your own stuff [18:42] bbl, seems like i'm needed here :) [18:48] darkera : See you [19:20] * DarkEra is back [19:31] My turn, bbl [19:31] :) [19:32] doh.... lol [19:38] I've been talking to the ExTiX guy [19:38] He's been under the impression that the symbol was the Ubuntu COF, and had never heard of Ubuntu Studio [19:56] zequence, oh yeah, i almost forgot to ask about that [20:04] I still haven't got any confirmation if he's going to replace the wallpaper or not [20:04] He says he's been using it for the past two years [20:05] i only noticed it when i saw the new release on DW. We'll see what he's going to do then. [20:31] I wish someone could tell me the story behind the Ubuntu Studio circle of friends. We really should document it [20:31] astraljava: What do you know about the Ubuntu Studio circle of friends symbol? [20:33] who made it, for starters? [22:12] Once in a while you'll read about people who think the kernel can affect audio sound quality [22:14] hmmm?