| kapitan | hello | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Hello. | 00:34 |
| kapitan | i use ubuntu studio as my main laptop system :) | 00:34 |
| kapitan | very happy with it | 00:34 |
| kapitan | the only thing i could have it working | 00:35 |
| kapitan | is the cpu scaling | 00:35 |
| kapitan | on the low latency kernel | 00:35 |
| kapitan | is 13.04 going to support i7 platforms? | 00:35 |
| kapitan | *couldn't | 00:36 |
| Unit193 | Why wouldn't it? | 00:38 |
| kapitan | because 12.04 doesn't :) | 00:39 |
| kapitan | my platform at least | 00:39 |
| kapitan | x64 low latency 3.X...40 | 00:39 |
| Unit193 | Should be able to use the cpufrequtils for cpu scaling. | 00:40 |
| kapitan | basically cpufreq-info returns: | 00:42 |
| kapitan | no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU | 00:42 |
| kapitan | and i assumed there was a module missing | 00:42 |
| kapitan | and my system is missing the folder: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq | 00:43 |
| kapitan | my proc is i7-2670QM | 00:53 |
| Unit193 | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/179771 found some old stuff that had issues as well, I don't have anything like that at all, so could only recommend nomodeset, and trying in #ubuntu | 01:00 |
| kapitan | yeah i was reading there | 01:03 |
| kapitan | too bad | 01:03 |
| kapitan | by they way ...your link is to another problem, fortunately not mine, mine is just that i don't have cpu scaling | 01:04 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, just an example of more. | 01:05 |
| kapitan | oksss, thanks anyway, i'll ask there ;) | 01:06 |
| Unit193 | Sorry. | 01:07 |
| kapitan | no problem man, i found some info...http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_power_20&num=1 | 01:15 |
| kapitan | and here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150743&p=10 | 01:16 |
| kapitan | last question then | 01:30 |
| kapitan | which kernel version on 13.04? | 01:30 |
| Unit193 | 3.8 | 01:31 |
| kapitan | ok cool, that might solve my problem | 01:31 |
| Unit193 | Heh, all the ones I compiled after 3.8.2 were duds for me. :/ | 01:33 |
| kapitan | duds? | 01:33 |
| Unit193 | Not working for my computer. | 01:33 |
| kapitan | oh haahh, sorry my first language is not english :D | 01:33 |
| Unit193 | Well mine is gibberish, so we're set. | 01:35 |
| kapitan | lol | 01:35 |
| kapitan | is raring for the repos? | 01:36 |
| Unit193 | Raring has been released, yeah. | 01:36 |
| kapitan | ok i am going to add the repos just for the kernel for now | 01:37 |
| Unit193 | Ehh.... That's generally not exactly recommended. | 01:39 |
| Unit193 | Don't want to upgrade? | 01:39 |
| kapitan | my internet connection sucks here | 01:40 |
| kapitan | i'll do it | 01:40 |
| kapitan | just want to see if it works and switch back if now | 01:40 |
| kapitan | if not | 01:40 |
| kapitan | can't find the repos lol...how come man :) | 01:41 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux if you know how to recover from it.... | 01:45 |
| kapitan | yeah i can just switch back with grub, it usually keeps the old ones... | 01:46 |
| kapitan | or maybe there is a ppa with just kernels somewhere... | 01:46 |
| kapitan | thank you for the link! | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | Think xorg-edgers might? | 01:48 |
| kapitan | checking :d | 01:49 |
| * Unit193 out. | 01:49 | |
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| RenderedLife | hi .. i just read that 13.04 was just released :-) … then i read that if i have 12.10 (I do) that i should reinstall instead of upgrade :-( i spent literally months fighting with my system to get it running the latest version of Ardour 3 properly due to how messed up Pulse audio is … and now i have to do that all over again? | 13:33 |
| DarkEra | well, i have Ardour 3 running on my system since yesterday and while playing around a bit with it i didn't encounter any problem | 13:39 |
| smartboyhw | RenderedLife: You CAN upgrade. | 13:40 |
| DarkEra | you could try to install it on another partition and test it | 13:40 |
| smartboyhw | We just don't recommend it | 13:40 |
| DarkEra | upgrading can be done but can be risky | 13:41 |
| RenderedLife | yes .. and when i read that an upgrade is not recommended .. i usually put a lot of stock in that … | 13:49 |
| RenderedLife | Pulse audio just simply does not play nicely with Jack, and I didn't realize that when I first installed UbuntuStudio .. if i'm going to need to reinstall a distro, i'd probably rather just switch to one that's more recommended by the Ardour devs .. | 13:51 |
| RenderedLife | i was so happy to finally get everything working .. | 13:51 |
| RenderedLife | and now there's a release of Ubuntu Studio that seems to address a few core issues .. but if i do an upgrade, i assume additional risk of things breaking .. | 13:51 |
| DarkEra | i still would go with a second partition and install 13.04 on it to try it and see how it works. Maybe you can copy the setup you got for Ardour 3 if it doesn't work out. I don't know if that's a option and works? | 13:54 |
| RenderedLife | DarkEra … that's not a road i want to go down … i spend months agonizing over creating a clean system that works … i have no interest in making new partitions and messing everything up … I know Ardour 3 will work .. i also know that it will require jumping through hoops to customize and to overcome the failing of Pulse Audio .. and that's work i've already done .. | 14:17 |
| smartboyhw_ | Rendered: Reminder: We don't include Ardiur | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw_ | 3 as default in 13.04 | 14:18 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw_, i think he knows that because he has Ardour 3 installed on 12.10 from or a ppa or built from source | 14:19 |
| DarkEra | :) | 14:19 |
| DarkEra | there's not much to mess up by creating another partition but if one doesn't know how to do it the right way i can understand that | 14:20 |
| DarkEra | i'm not going to force it upon you RenderedLife it's your choice and you have to switch and set it up anyway once 12.10 isn't supported anymore :) | 14:21 |
| RenderedLife | DarkEra, smartboyhw .. yes, i have built Ardour from source, and then I paid for a subscription and installed the package which I got directly from the devs .. there are known issues with distro versions, so i have always avoided that … and i know "how" to create a new partition .. my point is .. i'm working on creating a clean system .. i have no interest in creating multiple boots just to work around issues with a distro .. | 14:26 |
| DarkEra | i understand that | 14:27 |
| tuples_ | I upgraded 12.10 to 13.04, I don't recommend it >.> | 17:25 |
| tuples_ | the upgrade path, that is | 17:25 |
| tuples_ | well, it broke for me anyways | 17:25 |
| tuples_ | I had messed with pulse & jack to get a USB sound card working | 17:25 |
| tuples_ | after the upgrade, pulse and jack no like each other | 17:26 |
| tuples_ | I've pulled out all jack related configs, then wiped all user pulse configs to have pulse recreate them | 17:26 |
| tuples_ | I now have sound, but pulse isn't going through jack | 17:26 |
| tuples_ | so presently I'll need to kill pulse and start jack | 17:27 |
| tuples_ | not the end of the world, but it took me quite a while to get to that point | 17:27 |
| tuples_ | I'll have to reconfigure to make pulse a jack client but I'm in no hurry to tackle that :p | 17:29 |
| zequence | tuples_: jack and pulse work flawlessly on 13.04 | 18:23 |
| zequence | tuples_: If using default configs | 18:23 |
| zequence | pulseaudio had a bug that was fixed in 3.0, which made jack not be able to grab the card from pulseaudio | 18:24 |
| zequence | I'm talking about the interaction now, not the audio servers by themselves. There will always be bugs of some kind | 18:24 |
| zequence | bug #1163638 | 18:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1163638 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio fails to release card to jack" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163638 | 18:25 |
| zequence | Another bug, which caused jack to crash is fixed in all releases now | 18:25 |
| DarkEra | for me, now i'm working a bit more with it, 13.04 is the best release yet. The sound is smooth when using jack, ardour, zynaddsubfx etc. Awesome | 18:32 |
| tuples_ | zequence: upgrading on day 2 of the release may not have been the wisest move :p | 18:50 |
| tuples_ | I haven't started/tested jack yet (not that pulse is working) | 18:50 |
| tuples_ | but I'm quite a bit more hopeful :) | 18:50 |
| zequence | tuples_: If you make your own custom configs, than from my point of view, I can't tell what is likely to work on your system or not | 19:00 |
| zequence | tuples_: Not much has happened since 13.04 was released. It's a stable release, and surely there are bugs, but not just by automation. | 19:01 |
| zequence | In fact, there has been very little changes to Ubuntu Studio the last month before it was released | 19:01 |
| zequence | tuples_: What is not working with pulse? | 19:03 |
| tuples_ | pulse default sink set to jack. Pulse threw errors about connecting to the jack server socket. | 19:22 |
| tuples_ | default out, that is :) | 19:22 |
| tuples_ | wiping user configs for pulse fixed it, or stopped it from routing to jack | 19:23 |
| tuples_ | I'd had these configs for a long time though, so there may have been older, obsolete/changed pulse configs involved | 19:24 |
| tuples_ | it struck me as odd though. It worked perfectly before. | 19:25 |
| tuples_ | where I became more confused was getting the usb soundcard to work with jack while routing output through pulse (so I could use laptop headphone jack since I seem to have lost all my stereo 1/16 -> 1/8 converter) | 19:27 |
| tuples_ | and then running an OS upgrade within a week | 19:28 |
| tuples_ | I touched lots of configs, then touched more configs | 19:28 |
| tuples_ | I think it will either be fixed, or I'll have a better grasp on what's happening when I try to reconfig pulse as a jack client. | 19:29 |
| tuples_ | I suppose I could have searched around for old /etc configs to make diffs and see if anything minor changed with pulse | 19:31 |
| zequence | There's no need for any configs beyond the default configs | 19:32 |
| zequence | Starting jackdbus will automatically start jack_sink and jack_source for pulseaudio | 19:32 |
| zequence | there may be problems if you have restarted jack a few times, this happens to me | 19:33 |
| zequence | ..as for the automation of jack_sink and _source | 19:33 |
| zequence | Those are created automatically by pulseaudio-module-jack, btw | 19:33 |
| zequence | Which is installed by default | 19:33 |
| tuples_ | I've been using LADI so I do tend to restart jack | 19:33 |
| zequence | pulseaudio-module-jack is the jackdbus_detect module, included in the main pulseaudio source, but packaged separately | 19:35 |
| tuples_ | sounds like I need to go back to basics, as far as configs :) | 19:38 |
| tuples_ | the basics sound more sensible than they used to be | 19:38 |
| tuples_ | for jack and for pulse :) | 19:39 |
| zequence | the jackdbus detect module is not thoroughly developed, so it might need some work. It's more like an example module | 19:39 |
| zequence | But, it works | 19:39 |
| zequence | Since 13.04, it will only create 2 channels for PA, no matter how many channels your jack device has | 19:40 |
| zequence | Most people only need a stereo connection. Also, each channel eats CPU | 19:40 |
| zequence | The channel config can be changed in /etc/pulse/default.pa | 19:41 |
| zequence | .ifexists module-jackdbus-detect.so | 19:41 |
| zequence | load-module module-jackdbus-detect channels=2 | 19:41 |
| tuples_ | cool, thx | 19:42 |
| nixnine | I need a keylogger for studio. Any suggestions? | 20:04 |
| Inoki | Hi guys, any designers here? | 21:00 |
| zequence | Inoki: You mean, like graphic designer? | 21:04 |
| zequence | I'm sure there are some here who dabble. I'm more into audio myself | 21:05 |
| Inoki | zequence: hiya, yer, graphics. | 21:05 |
| Inoki | zequence: while we're at it, I wrote an article about Ubuntu Studio today :D | 21:08 |
| Inoki | zequence: might wanna check it out: http://live4p.com/index.php?site=news&id=335 | 21:08 |
| zequence | Inoki: Nice article | 21:09 |
| Inoki | zequence: Thanks! | 21:10 |
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