[00:33] hello [00:34] Hello. [00:34] i use ubuntu studio as my main laptop system :) [00:34] very happy with it [00:35] the only thing i could have it working [00:35] is the cpu scaling [00:35] on the low latency kernel [00:35] is 13.04 going to support i7 platforms? [00:36] *couldn't [00:38] Why wouldn't it? [00:39] because 12.04 doesn't :) [00:39] my platform at least [00:39] x64 low latency 3.X...40 [00:40] Should be able to use the cpufrequtils for cpu scaling. [00:42] basically cpufreq-info returns: [00:42] no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU [00:42] and i assumed there was a module missing [00:43] and my system is missing the folder: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq [00:53] my proc is i7-2670QM [01:00] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/179771 found some old stuff that had issues as well, I don't have anything like that at all, so could only recommend nomodeset, and trying in #ubuntu [01:03] yeah i was reading there [01:03] too bad [01:04] by they way ...your link is to another problem, fortunately not mine, mine is just that i don't have cpu scaling [01:05] Yeah, just an example of more. [01:06] oksss, thanks anyway, i'll ask there ;) [01:07] Sorry. [01:15] no problem man, i found some info...http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_power_20&num=1 [01:16] and here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150743&p=10 [01:30] last question then [01:30] which kernel version on 13.04? [01:31] 3.8 [01:31] ok cool, that might solve my problem [01:33] Heh, all the ones I compiled after 3.8.2 were duds for me. :/ [01:33] duds? [01:33] Not working for my computer. [01:33] oh haahh, sorry my first language is not english :D [01:35] Well mine is gibberish, so we're set. [01:35] lol [01:36] is raring for the repos? [01:36] Raring has been released, yeah. [01:37] ok i am going to add the repos just for the kernel for now [01:39] Ehh.... That's generally not exactly recommended. [01:39] Don't want to upgrade? [01:40] my internet connection sucks here [01:40] i'll do it [01:40] just want to see if it works and switch back if now [01:40] if not [01:41] can't find the repos lol...how come man :) [01:45] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux if you know how to recover from it.... [01:46] yeah i can just switch back with grub, it usually keeps the old ones... [01:46] or maybe there is a ppa with just kernels somewhere... [01:46] thank you for the link! [01:48] Think xorg-edgers might? [01:49] checking :d [01:49] * Unit193 out. === smartboyhw__ is now known as smartboyhw [13:33] hi .. i just read that 13.04 was just released :-) … then i read that if i have 12.10 (I do) that i should reinstall instead of upgrade :-( i spent literally months fighting with my system to get it running the latest version of Ardour 3 properly due to how messed up Pulse audio is … and now i have to do that all over again? [13:39] well, i have Ardour 3 running on my system since yesterday and while playing around a bit with it i didn't encounter any problem [13:40] RenderedLife: You CAN upgrade. [13:40] you could try to install it on another partition and test it [13:40] We just don't recommend it [13:41] upgrading can be done but can be risky [13:49] yes .. and when i read that an upgrade is not recommended .. i usually put a lot of stock in that … [13:51] Pulse audio just simply does not play nicely with Jack, and I didn't realize that when I first installed UbuntuStudio .. if i'm going to need to reinstall a distro, i'd probably rather just switch to one that's more recommended by the Ardour devs .. [13:51] i was so happy to finally get everything working .. [13:51] and now there's a release of Ubuntu Studio that seems to address a few core issues .. but if i do an upgrade, i assume additional risk of things breaking .. [13:54] i still would go with a second partition and install 13.04 on it to try it and see how it works. Maybe you can copy the setup you got for Ardour 3 if it doesn't work out. I don't know if that's a option and works? [14:17] DarkEra … that's not a road i want to go down … i spend months agonizing over creating a clean system that works … i have no interest in making new partitions and messing everything up … I know Ardour 3 will work .. i also know that it will require jumping through hoops to customize and to overcome the failing of Pulse Audio .. and that's work i've already done .. [14:18] Rendered: Reminder: We don't include Ardiur [14:18] 3 as default in 13.04 [14:19] smartboyhw_, i think he knows that because he has Ardour 3 installed on 12.10 from or a ppa or built from source [14:19] :) [14:20] there's not much to mess up by creating another partition but if one doesn't know how to do it the right way i can understand that [14:21] i'm not going to force it upon you RenderedLife it's your choice and you have to switch and set it up anyway once 12.10 isn't supported anymore :) [14:26] DarkEra, smartboyhw .. yes, i have built Ardour from source, and then I paid for a subscription and installed the package which I got directly from the devs .. there are known issues with distro versions, so i have always avoided that … and i know "how" to create a new partition .. my point is .. i'm working on creating a clean system .. i have no interest in creating multiple boots just to work around issues with a distro .. [14:27] i understand that [17:25] I upgraded 12.10 to 13.04, I don't recommend it >.> [17:25] the upgrade path, that is [17:25] well, it broke for me anyways [17:25] I had messed with pulse & jack to get a USB sound card working [17:26] after the upgrade, pulse and jack no like each other [17:26] I've pulled out all jack related configs, then wiped all user pulse configs to have pulse recreate them [17:26] I now have sound, but pulse isn't going through jack [17:27] so presently I'll need to kill pulse and start jack [17:27] not the end of the world, but it took me quite a while to get to that point [17:29] I'll have to reconfigure to make pulse a jack client but I'm in no hurry to tackle that :p [18:23] tuples_: jack and pulse work flawlessly on 13.04 [18:23] tuples_: If using default configs [18:24] pulseaudio had a bug that was fixed in 3.0, which made jack not be able to grab the card from pulseaudio [18:24] I'm talking about the interaction now, not the audio servers by themselves. There will always be bugs of some kind [18:25] bug #1163638 [18:25] bug 1163638 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio fails to release card to jack" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163638 [18:25] Another bug, which caused jack to crash is fixed in all releases now [18:32] for me, now i'm working a bit more with it, 13.04 is the best release yet. The sound is smooth when using jack, ardour, zynaddsubfx etc. Awesome [18:50] zequence: upgrading on day 2 of the release may not have been the wisest move :p [18:50] I haven't started/tested jack yet (not that pulse is working) [18:50] but I'm quite a bit more hopeful :) [19:00] tuples_: If you make your own custom configs, than from my point of view, I can't tell what is likely to work on your system or not [19:01] tuples_: Not much has happened since 13.04 was released. It's a stable release, and surely there are bugs, but not just by automation. [19:01] In fact, there has been very little changes to Ubuntu Studio the last month before it was released [19:03] tuples_: What is not working with pulse? [19:22] pulse default sink set to jack. Pulse threw errors about connecting to the jack server socket. [19:22] default out, that is :) [19:23] wiping user configs for pulse fixed it, or stopped it from routing to jack [19:24] I'd had these configs for a long time though, so there may have been older, obsolete/changed pulse configs involved [19:25] it struck me as odd though. It worked perfectly before. [19:27] where I became more confused was getting the usb soundcard to work with jack while routing output through pulse (so I could use laptop headphone jack since I seem to have lost all my stereo 1/16 -> 1/8 converter) [19:28] and then running an OS upgrade within a week [19:28] I touched lots of configs, then touched more configs [19:29] I think it will either be fixed, or I'll have a better grasp on what's happening when I try to reconfig pulse as a jack client. [19:31] I suppose I could have searched around for old /etc configs to make diffs and see if anything minor changed with pulse [19:32] There's no need for any configs beyond the default configs [19:32] Starting jackdbus will automatically start jack_sink and jack_source for pulseaudio [19:33] there may be problems if you have restarted jack a few times, this happens to me [19:33] ..as for the automation of jack_sink and _source [19:33] Those are created automatically by pulseaudio-module-jack, btw [19:33] Which is installed by default [19:33] I've been using LADI so I do tend to restart jack [19:35] pulseaudio-module-jack is the jackdbus_detect module, included in the main pulseaudio source, but packaged separately [19:38] sounds like I need to go back to basics, as far as configs :) [19:38] the basics sound more sensible than they used to be [19:39] for jack and for pulse :) [19:39] the jackdbus detect module is not thoroughly developed, so it might need some work. It's more like an example module [19:39] But, it works [19:40] Since 13.04, it will only create 2 channels for PA, no matter how many channels your jack device has [19:40] Most people only need a stereo connection. Also, each channel eats CPU [19:41] The channel config can be changed in /etc/pulse/default.pa [19:41] .ifexists module-jackdbus-detect.so [19:41] load-module module-jackdbus-detect channels=2 [19:42] cool, thx [20:04] I need a keylogger for studio. Any suggestions? [21:00] Hi guys, any designers here? [21:04] Inoki: You mean, like graphic designer? [21:05] I'm sure there are some here who dabble. I'm more into audio myself [21:05] zequence: hiya, yer, graphics. [21:08] zequence: while we're at it, I wrote an article about Ubuntu Studio today :D [21:08] zequence: might wanna check it out: http://live4p.com/index.php?site=news&id=335 [21:09] Inoki: Nice article [21:10] zequence: Thanks! === jbermudes_ is now known as jbermudes