[13:09] <knome> anybody in the xubuntu-team in LP, please approve new members to xubuntu-users, unless it looks like a flood
[13:09] <knome> i will revert the team as open once the voting has been donw
[13:09] <knome> *done
[13:11]  * smartboyhw waits for voting open:)
[13:11] <knome> should be open in approx. 110 mins
[13:12] <knome> i know LP says 1 hour... but i set it to 15UTC.
[13:12] <knome> unless it wanted GMT. in which case it will shift back one hour.
[13:12] <knome> hmm, no
[13:13] <knome> no, yes
[13:13]  * knome hates DST
[13:13] <knome> timezones are doable, but DST is confusing and useless
[13:18] <smartboyhw> knome: I do know when to vote (I read the mail). BTW did Noskcaj ask you for membership testimonials?
[13:31] <smartboyhw> knome: BTW can one change his vote after initial voting? (Not saying I would)
[14:12] <skellat> Still an hour until the poll opens
[14:13] <smartboyhw> skellat: 48 minutes
[14:13] <skellat> LP rounds up then
[14:13] <smartboyhw> skellat: Refresh mab
[14:13] <smartboyhw> *man
[14:14] <smartboyhw> Should be 46 …
[14:18] <knome> smartboyhw_, no, didn't ask for testimonials from me
[14:18] <knome> smartboyhw_, i don't know if you can change your vote. skellat?
[14:18] <smartboyhw_> knome: Eh? He's running for membership tmr 22:00 (7 hrs after meeting)
[14:19] <skellat> knome: Yep, as long as you save the vote change key
[14:19] <knome> smartboyhw_, right, no.
[14:19] <knome> smartboyhw_, he didn't
[14:19] <smartboyhw_> knome: Hmm interesting
[14:19] <smartboyhw_> skellat: OK
[14:20] <knome> everybody still free to leave support to each of the candidates for the XPL run as well
[14:20] <knome> (i suppose after 40 mins it might not make as much sense)
[14:20] <smartboyhw_> knome: I did for you:)
[14:21] <knome> smartboyhw_, i noticed. thanks!
[14:21] <knome> the best thing in these elections are the supporting words, whether you got nominated or not
[14:21] <smartboyhw_> knome: Heh you have supporters from many flavours:)
[14:22] <knome> i suppose one of the benefits of trying to help other people whenever you can
[14:22] <smartboyhw_> knome: :)
[14:34] <smartboyhw_> 25 mins\o/
[14:59] <smartboyhw_> 2 minutes to voting time! Woohii
[14:59] <skellat> There's no running tally of where votes have gone, though.  LP only gives totals once the poll closes.
[15:02] <smartboyhw_> skellat: No worries, the meeting will reveal it;P
[15:02] <smartboyhw_> Voted already
[15:09] <lderan> woo voting
[15:33] <knome> skellat, i'm curious why there should be? :)
[15:34] <skellat> I was just thinking of the US Senate and US House of Representatives that have running tallies during votes and where votes can be changed up until the vote is closed.
[15:35] <knome> finnish elections do not have those
[15:35] <knome> prelimiary/counted votes are only published when the voting has ended
[15:35] <skellat> Nah, these are votes internal to those bodies
[15:35] <knome> ah.
[15:36] <knome> oh well, we can always do better next time :)
[15:36] <skellat> Elections I help administer don't have any results known until after the poll is closed and all four poll judges sign the tabulator tape & post it
[15:36] <skellat> Which I still haven't gotten a deployment order for the May 7th Party Primaries/Special Elections contest yet
[15:36] <knome> mmh
[15:37] <skellat> I'm just a substitute
[15:37] <skellat> Last November's election I got called the night before and was ordered to a precinct to serve
[15:37] <skellat> Theoretically I can get an order up until polls close on the 7th
[15:37] <knome> yup
[15:37] <knome> disturbing.
[15:38] <skellat> Well, sometimes precinct election officers do get sick during election day and have to be replaced.  
[15:38] <knome> sure
[15:39] <elfy> afternoon
[15:39] <knome> hello elfy
[15:40] <elfy> hi knome 
[15:42] <knome> so... the voting is underway!
[15:42] <elfy> yep - done my duty for the day - tomorrow I'm supposed to do it all again 
[15:42] <knome> hehe :)
[15:43] <knome> done my duties for today as well.. which are none!
[15:43] <elfy> when's the daily going to be available by the way?
[15:43] <knome> woohoo
[15:43] <knome> good question
[15:44] <knome> don't think it makes much sense to test anything yet
[15:44] <lderan> wish my days duties were equal to none :P
[15:44] <skellat> Nothing to test yet.  There's still debate about alignment of milestones.
[15:44] <elfy> well I tested setting-manager and did the bug report :p
[15:44] <knome> another benefit of being an entrepreneur - sometimes you have days like this
[15:45] <knome> elfy, there is something to test and triage if you are willing to to Q->R upgrades though... bug 1155167
[15:45] <elfy> lot's of people wanting to join xubuntu-team ... we should have a poll of some sort twice a year :p
[15:45] <knome> why poll?
[15:45] <elfy> looking
[15:46] <knome> oh, you mean xubuntu-USERS, not -team
[15:46] <knome> heh.
[15:46] <elfy> yea - sorry - long day lol
[15:47] <knome> we haven't marketed the group too much
[15:47] <knome> i don't know if there are any direct benefits of it
[15:47] <elfy> I should be able to check that bug out over the next couple of days 
[15:47] <knome> elfy, thanks!
[15:48] <elfy> indeed - I found when I've done 'teams' that you get an initial upswing in interest - then it drops of rapidly - I've always been happy if I've managed to keep 20% of the original interest 
[15:48] <knome> mhm
[15:49] <knome> easier to get people to join open teams with badges...
[15:49] <elfy> I'll not comment on that ... 
[15:49] <knome> hehe
[15:49]  * knome checks elfy's badges
[15:50] <lderan> especially if the badges are shiny 
[15:50] <elfy> the only badge I've got for badges sake is the not canonical one :)
[15:50] <lderan> woo just voted :P
[15:51] <knome> i don't think i'm mistaken a lot for working for canonical :P
[15:51] <elfy> I get it lot's 
[15:52] <knome> gah, pleia2 has lots of badges
[15:52] <knome> but i can haz more karma!
[15:52] <elfy> lol
[15:52] <elfy> https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw
[15:53] <elfy> I just had a cnd badge when I was his age :p
[15:53] <knome> https://launchpad.net/~pitti wins in karma
[15:53] <lderan> all bow to my measly 1 karma
[15:53] <lderan> muhahaha
[15:54] <knome> that's a start!
[15:54] <elfy> knome: how much karma does the LP bot thing have :)
[15:54] <knome> and btw, people would get easy karma for keeping the release blueprints up-to-date, but they don't do it so i have to
[15:54] <knome> most of my karma comes from spec management anyway...
[15:54] <knome> elfy, no idea
[15:55] <elfy> mine comes mostlt from creating bugs that never get looked at :D
[15:55] <knome> hah
[15:55] <knome> the karma system is far from perfect
[15:55] <elfy> most karma systems are 
[15:55] <elfy> like thanks/likes pretty much pointless 
[15:55] <knome> heh
[15:57] <elfy> but it's what we have so meh 
[15:57] <knome> yeah
[15:57] <elfy> lderan: when you fix that bug you'll have more than 1 :)
[15:57] <lderan> woo \o/
[15:58] <elfy> I'd assume ... 
[15:59] <elfy> hi GridCube 
[15:59] <GridCube> :) hi elfy 
[16:08] <skellat> And for my first merge request of the Saucy Salamander cycle: https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/161865
[16:09] <elfy> what's going on with docs this cycle - so I know 
[16:12] <skellat> Don't know yet
[16:12] <skellat> First merge is to bump it into this cycle
[16:13] <skellat> bkerensa is supposed to have a vUDS-1305 session about revitalizing Docs at the macro Ubuntu-wide level
[16:13] <skellat> Beyond that, we can add notes to our blueprint
[16:13] <elfy> tbh - I don't know what happened last cycle either lol - I had a part in the big upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[16:13] <elfy> skellat: well - while that is a great idea and I hope it works - I'd not base what we do with our docs on a revitalised doc team
[16:14] <skellat> :-)
[16:14] <elfy> I'm serious :) 
[16:14] <skellat> We have a workaround to that in place too after we had to scramble to do some updates to get 13.04-versioned docs into 13.04
[16:14] <skellat> The first few releases had 12.10 docs still
[16:15] <skellat> knome has commiter/upload rights now so we need not worry
[16:16] <elfy> basically I guess I needed to know if it was being done like ^^ through LP etc - in which case I can forget that :p
[16:16] <knome> \o/
[16:17] <skellat> Yeah, it is the magic of LP
[16:17] <skellat> Which can be worked around
[16:19] <elfy> skellat: k - thanks
[20:27] <Unit193> knome: Can you pop the meeting on to the Xubuntu calendar?
[21:01] <knome> Unit193, sure, i'll do that later
[23:45] <seronis> is there any place to go to influence getting an updated version of a 3rd party lib added to the xubuntu repos ?
[23:49] <bluesabre> Hi seronis, just follow the sponsorship process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[23:54] <seronis> ty for the link bluesabre 
[23:55] <bluesabre> sure thing