| ScottK | ahoneybun: Where are you? When it was 7PM for you, it was for me as well. | 01:29 |
|---|---|---|
| ahoneybun | ScottK: Florida | 01:30 |
| ScottK | ahoneybun: OK. I'm in Maryland. | 01:31 |
| ahoneybun | Cool someone in the US | 01:31 |
| ScottK | There are a few of us. | 01:31 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna is in New Hampshire. | 01:31 |
| ScottK | Darkwing is somewhere west of us. | 01:32 |
| ScottK | So is jjesse-home. | 01:32 |
| ScottK | maco lives about a 45 minute drive from my house. | 01:33 |
| ScottK | Those are just a few I know off the top of my head. | 01:33 |
| ahoneybun | cool | 01:33 |
| ahoneybun | did not know that | 01:33 |
| ScottK | agateau: I think I have forgotten to mention that I thought the installer changes in 13.04 were very nice. It felt very modern and well designed. Thanks. | 01:39 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1175299] kwin Plastik decoration displays the help-button wrong @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1175299 (by Allo) | 02:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1175299 in KDE Base Workspace "kwin Plastik decoration displays the help-button wrong" [Medium,New] | 02:21 |
| ahoneybun | apachelogger: thanks for the nice and wonderful new bootsplash | 02:22 |
| ScottK | OK, game on for the election. Darkwing, valorie, shadeslayer, and yofel: let the campaign begin. | 02:22 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | Kubuntu Council election: http://tinyurl.com/cqklhq5 | ||
| ScottK | jussi or someone else who has ops, would you please add the /topic bit about the election in #kubuntu. | 02:25 |
| ahoneybun | omg so hard to choice | 02:25 |
| ahoneybun | oh I can't vote.... | 02:26 |
| ScottK | valorie is a USian too, BTW. She lives in the far west. | 02:26 |
| ScottK | ahoneybun: Not this time, but stick with it and next year you will be able to. | 02:27 |
| ahoneybun | oh I have talked to her once or twice | 02:27 |
| ahoneybun | ScottK: I started work on getting the kubuntu-docs on the wiki | 02:27 |
| ScottK | OK. | 02:27 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-docs | 02:28 |
| ahoneybun | what do you think? | 02:32 |
| ScottK | ahoneybun: volkan was also doing something on docs, I don't know the details, you might want to discuss collaboration next time he's here. | 02:32 |
| ahoneybun | yea, Riddell says that no one is maintaining it, and it would be best to use a wiki and not docbook | 02:33 |
| ahoneybun | I'm going to try to get it all up to date, I have updated some of the images as well | 02:40 |
| ahoneybun | well its time for me to go to bed. | 02:46 |
| maco | ScottK: maco is buying a house about 50 minutes from your house, or 40 minutes if you use the ICC | 03:27 |
| ScottK | maco: Nice. | 03:28 |
| ScottK | Rockville? | 03:28 |
| maco | not inside rockville lines | 03:28 |
| maco | but just outside them | 03:28 |
| ScottK | Actually depending on where, it could be 30. | 03:28 |
| maco | Randolph Rd? | 03:28 |
| ScottK | To go west on the ICC I can cut down Georgia Ave and get on the ICC from it. | 03:28 |
| maco | Viers Mill / Randolph is the nearest big intersection | 03:29 |
| ScottK | Wheaton then? | 03:29 |
| ScottK | I know where that is. | 03:29 |
| maco | its silver spring, since its not incorporated into either rockville or wheato | 03:29 |
| maco | n | 03:29 |
| Tm_T | morning | 03:29 |
| * Tm_T is heading to releasepartyish event | 03:30 | |
| ScottK | I see. | 03:30 |
| Tm_T | any last recommendations what I should tell about Ubuntu and Kubuntu communities for university tech students? | 03:30 |
| ScottK | I think I might not use the ICC at all. I might just shoot down Georgia, but I'd have to look at a map. | 03:31 |
| maco | Tm_T: "we dont use git. yeah, i know." | 03:31 |
| Tm_T | maco: naah, too technical (: | 03:31 |
| Tm_T | they prolly don't even know difference between git and bzr | 03:31 |
| maco | Tm_T: "warning: we occasionally get very passionate about....things we're passionate about" | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | ah, yes, has to tell about different personalities, definitely | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | almost forgot that, thanks maco (: | 03:33 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: One of the interesting aspects of Ubuntu as a project is there's essentially no job in the distro you can't do even if you don't work for Canonical. To me it's amazing that since I'm a core-dev and an archive-admin I have the ability to upload and distribute arbitrary code to every single Ubuntu user in the world and yet there's nothing beyond the CoC and the LP terms of service in the way of an agreement with Canonical in a formal sense | 03:36 |
| ScottK | . | 03:36 |
| ScottK | I think that's pretty unique for a corporate sponsored distro. | 03:36 |
| Tm_T | yup | 03:38 |
| Tm_T | although Canonical has taken more grip on technical stuff, there's still room for community involvement | 03:39 |
| Tm_T | I have slide saying that trademark is owned by canonical but Ubuntu is (owned by) the community | 03:39 |
| Tm_T | actually, I'll show the slides, one moment | 03:41 |
| ScottK | Canonical has only taken a grip where they are essentially doing all the work. | 03:41 |
| ScottK | So it would be hard for them to avoid it. | 03:41 |
| ScottK | (Not that I agree with all their decisions, I don't) | 03:42 |
| Tm_T | sure | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | http://www.tm-travolta.net/text/Ubuntu.odp | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | I understood I have some 15 minutes to use so that's already plenty of stuff there | 03:43 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: slide 2 - very/every 2 years | 03:44 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 03:44 |
| Tm_T | fixed and updated | 03:45 |
| ScottK | Also, please don't say public domain, give it a license that accomplishes your goal. It isn't legally possible to relinquish your copyright and declare something public domain in the US, so you're statement means you retain full copyright and there's no license. Pretty much the opposite of what you were trying to achieve. | 03:46 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: it isn't legally possible in EU either, actually, so ye have to change it | 03:49 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: good point, thanks | 03:51 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: It might be nice to put the other flavor web sites on the Interested slide. | 04:13 |
| Darkwing | ScottK: Im in Indiana | 04:13 |
| ScottK | Darkwing: That's definitely west of here. | 04:13 |
| Darkwing | :D | 04:13 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: hmmm, yeah | 04:18 |
| Tm_T | that is also done | 04:25 |
| * skellat is roughly equidistant between Cleveland, Youngstown, Southwest Ontario, and Erie PA | 04:26 | |
| Tm_T | skellat: I'm only ~2400 km north from that (and much more east) | 04:34 |
| valorie | ScottK was right, I'm in the northwest; Seattle area specifically | 06:25 |
| smartboyhw | Eh hum clearly I can't post to kubuntu-users without subscribing | 06:26 |
| smartboyhw | But I don't want to:( | 06:26 |
| valorie | did it bounce? | 06:26 |
| valorie | because the admin(s) should be able to allow a post | 06:27 |
| valorie | also, you can sub and then set yourself to no-mail | 06:27 |
| smartboyhw | valorie: It just says I need to subscribe and re-send;O | 06:27 |
| valorie | ok | 06:28 |
| valorie | then they disallow that | 06:28 |
| * valorie isn't an admin, so can't help | 06:28 | |
| jussi | ScottK: your edit went just fine... | 07:48 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: some time ago you handed me a bug regarding smime or something not working in kleopatra, does that still need looking at? | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | it would appear I did not put down a todo | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: was https://trello.com/c/lRxnI0fD fixed/uploaded? | 08:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you mail i18n about fixed moun templates? | 08:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes it was | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: <3 | 09:37 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Don't kill me cause of my latest mail:P | 09:48 |
| * Riddell huggles smartboyhw | 09:50 | |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: :) | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | Kubuntu seems more unwelcoming to Canonical decisions | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | as if that were new :P | 09:55 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger: More & more:P | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | we only ever supported ubuntu community decisions :P | 09:55 |
| Riddell | Canonical is making more & more community decisions that affect ubuntu | 09:57 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 09:57 |
| apachelogger | albeit they are not community descisions if canonical makes them :P | 09:57 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1167028 | 10:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1167028 in kscreen (Ubuntu) "kdeinit4 segmentation fault" [Undecided,New] | 10:05 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: we have done a release onlyu to fix that fast :p | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | I see | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | why is the bug not closed then? :P | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | also did anyone package that and stuff? | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | huh, "Kubuntu — Ubuntu with the K Desktop environment" | 10:08 |
| smartboyhw | huh | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | what's K Desktop environment ? | 10:09 |
| smartboyhw | Tm_T: KDE's full name | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | smartboyhw: says who? | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | there's no K Desktop environment | 10:10 |
| smartboyhw | Tm_T: Wiki? | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | smartboyhw: hm? | 10:11 |
| smartboyhw | I forgotten | 10:11 |
| Tm_T | smartboyhw: KDE is the community, and yes its just KDE as its full | 10:11 |
| agateau | to be fair, it used to mean K Desktop Environment | 10:12 |
| Tm_T | agateau: true (: | 10:12 |
| agateau | but that was changed a few years ago | 10:12 |
| Tm_T | KDE Software Collection is the full name of the desktop environment and the default software | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | half my body fell asleep during that conversation | 10:12 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger: LOL | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: there is no KDE Software Collection | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | there is the KDE Plasma Workspace and other plunder | 10:13 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: anymore? I'm getting old for this (: | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | it's when you cannot come up with a sane product name you start renaming on a yearly basis I guess :P | 10:13 |
| Tm_T | Xfce is typed wrongly also, http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives | 10:13 |
| smartboyhw | Tm_T: Report a bug against ubuntu-website-content in Launchpad | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | 1 → 75 of 99 results | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | what's with all the bugs -.- | 10:14 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug 641712 | 10:15 |
| ubottu | bug 641712 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to enter password for a new user in KDM (Maverick, Natty and Oneiric)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641712 | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | can that go away or something? | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | also KDM is apparently going away upstream next year | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | or such be the plan for plasma workspace 2 | 10:15 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/softwarecompilation.php | 10:17 |
| Tm_T | what's that? /: | 10:17 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: ping | 10:18 |
| smartboyhw | valorie: Thank you for replying:) | 10:26 |
| vHanda | Could someone check if this tarball is properly constructed? https://sourceforge.net/projects/soprano/files/latest/download | 10:26 |
| * Riddell looks | 10:27 | |
| Riddell | vHanda: mm something wrong there | 10:28 |
| Riddell | all files prefixed with soprano-2.9.1TODO | 10:28 |
| Riddell | with soprano-2.9.1 | 10:28 |
| Riddell | e.g. soprano-2.9.1TODO soprano-2.9.1backends/CMakeLists.txt | 10:28 |
| vHanda | oops. I meant to do soprano-2.9.1/ | 10:28 |
| vHanda | urgh. I just released I checked by untarring 2.9.0 | 10:29 |
| vHanda | *I just checked by | 10:29 |
| vHanda | Riddell: fixed - https://sourceforge.net/projects/soprano/files/Soprano/2.9.1/ | 10:31 |
| Riddell | vHanda: looks good | 10:36 |
| Riddell | vHanda: I don't suppose there's any chance of getting rid of the binary blobs in sesame2 ? | 10:36 |
| vHanda | Riddell: cannot say - I don't know much about the sesame2 backend. We (KDE) don't require it | 10:38 |
| vHanda | but then other strange people do use Soprano | 10:38 |
| vHanda | hmm, we shouldn't be shipping the blobs - cause we are shipping 2.2.4 and the current sesame version is 2.6.something | 10:39 |
| vHanda | I'll take a look | 10:39 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1124149] Kubuntu 13.04 power button always turn off system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1124149 (by Turbo) | 10:39 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174501] Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174501 (by Nina) | 10:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1124149 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 power button always turn off system" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 10:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1174501 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | anyone up for a kwin sru? | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | bug 1174495 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1174495 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 | 10:55 |
| mgraesslin | that's kde bug 315089 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 315089 in general "KWin crash w/radeon (mesa git, kernel 3.8rc7)" [Crash,Resolved: upstream] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315089 | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: not in .2 is it? | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | at least git tells me the fix is from 23 days ago and the tag was one month ago ^^ | 11:00 |
| * mgraesslin didn't even know we had a fix for it | 11:00 | |
| apachelogger | "I used to have a few crashes here or there (every week or 2) in 12.10 (especially when using the comics widget)" <- apparently that is considered fine by some users :O | 11:00 |
| mgraesslin | today is the .3 tagging | 11:01 |
| mgraesslin | so you could just wait for the packages | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | ah, true | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | works for me | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: how much impact does that issue have? | 11:06 |
| mgraesslin | it's currently one of the two most often reported crashes | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | ... it will still take a month or so for .3 to land in regular updates | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | ok, better manually SRU into .2 then | 11:06 |
| mgraesslin | just for the record: it's not a fix to the actual problem, it's more a workaround inside KWin to not trigger the crashy code path | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: is PN + Saucy open ? is it installable / working ? | 11:20 |
| yofel__ | I'm bootstrapping it, expect it working till end of the week | 11:21 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 11:25 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319201 | 11:25 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 319201 in general "project neon crash" [Crash,Resolved: downstream] | 11:25 |
| shadeslayer | silly people upgrading to Saucy already | 11:26 |
| yofel__ | shadeslayer: I got a kwin crash in raring yesterday. Sadly I dismissed the window before my brain kicked in | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 11:28 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: Good you mean I'm silly?:( | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: yes, it's not a wise decision to upgrade just yet | 11:29 |
| yofel__ | I'll check this again later when I'm at home (won't be for another ~5h) | 11:29 |
| smartboyhw | yofel__ shadeslayer try to answer my questions in the mailing list ^^ | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | IMHO you should wait for like 3-4 weeks for the toolchain to settle down | 11:29 |
| yofel__ | smartboyhw: that too will have to wait for later, I'm at work | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: no can do today, I have to finish packign up | 11:29 |
| * smartboyhw doesn't care:P | 11:29 | |
| shadeslayer | probably Monday | 11:29 |
| * yofel__ runs saucy on his notebook already | 11:29 | |
| smartboyhw | ok no worries | 11:29 |
| yofel__ | byobu broke, otherwise not much going on yet | 11:30 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: Where are you going? | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | Barcelona :) | 11:30 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: For what? | 11:30 |
| smartboyhw | Fun? | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | work | 11:33 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:43 |
| kubotu | feed workspace-bugs had 6 updates, showing the latest 3 | 11:46 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1173521] plasma-desktop burning 90-100% of a cpu (after update to raring) @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173521 (by TerryHeidelberg) | 11:46 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1173521 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop burning 90-100% of a cpu (after update to raring)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1174495 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Saucy) "kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions" [Medium,Triaged] | 11:46 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174605] No unlock dialogue after locking @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174605 (by naught101) | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1174605 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "No unlock dialogue after locking" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | can't we make ubottu ignore kubotu | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | wasn't that the case? | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | jussi: ^ | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fyi I can reproduce 1173521 | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/736226 | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | that's the bt when using gdb | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | bbl | 11:48 |
| jussi | apachelogger: please make tsimpson do it, Im in a meeting and I always screw it up :P | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: please make ubottu ignore kubotu | 12:03 |
| tsimpson | apachelogger: it'd be nice if its hostmask didn't change so often ;) ubottu should ignore kubotu now | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | I don't know it changes :P | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | +why | 12:09 |
| smartboyhw_ | Let us see if it will:P | 12:09 |
| smartboyhw_ | Try to file a bug for colord-kde 0.3.0 | 12:10 |
| smartboyhw_ | apachelogger: You want to test? | 12:11 |
| tsimpson | there was an ignore set on its gateway/shell/ubottu/ cloak, it's more general kubot*!*@* now | 12:11 |
| smartboyhw_ | tsimpson: Cheers:) | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | won't that also ignore kubot1 :P | 12:12 |
| === shadeslayer is now known as kubot1 | ||
| kubot1 | !botsnack | 12:12 |
| kubot1 | ^_^ | 12:12 |
| smartboyhw_ | lol | 12:12 |
| === kubot1 is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| smartboyhw_ | shadeslayer: Good one:) | 12:13 |
| smartboyhw_ | OK try time | 12:14 |
| tsimpson | better than having bot wars, though robot wars was a good TV show | 12:14 |
| smartboyhw_ | kubotu: newversion colord-kde 0.3.0 | 12:14 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1175575 | 12:14 |
| smartboyhw_ | tsimpson: LOL and it certainly works! | 12:15 |
| smartboyhw_ | jussi: What's the use of kubotu in #ubuntustudio-devel ? | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | someone probably wanted it there | 12:21 |
| smartboyhw_ | grrr | 12:21 |
| jussi | smartboyhw_: talk to astraljava | 12:22 |
| smartboyhw_ | jussi: Hurray .. | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | anyone with nvidia proprietary drivers around? | 12:42 |
| kubotu | feed workspace-bugs had 4 updates, showing the latest 3 | 12:48 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1122581] kwin crashes when attempting to change color scheme, theme, icons from systemsettings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1122581 (by Thorsteinn A. Malmjursson) | 12:48 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1137384] System Settings dialog fails to close @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1137384 (by Martin Suttle) | 12:48 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1172859] KWin crashes on startup in 13.4 with nvidia driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1172859 (by Frederik Gladhorn) | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | fregl: ping | 12:48 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: I don't think that's nvidia drivers related | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | yeah I seemed to remember that nvidia properietary has its own libEGL which apparently is not the case anyway | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | maybe that was ati, or I am thinking of omap again ^^ | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | ah | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | nevermind | 12:53 |
| mgraesslin | no idea, but nvidia definately does not have a libEGL | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | silly me not reading carefully | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | fregl: /usr/local/lib/libwayland-server.so.0 | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | you have a custom wayland build lingering around that is BIC with what we have in ubuntu, i.e. probably too old | 12:54 |
| mgraesslin | not too old, Ubuntu randombly bumbed the so version | 12:55 |
| mgraesslin | I had a look at the mesa changelog the other day and saw that they did that | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | there's nothing random about bumping so versions when a binary interface changes :P | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | in this instance it's really just outdatedness though | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | as so and everything appears the same | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | except the symbol is missing | 12:57 |
| mgraesslin | it could be that last Ubuntu did not yet have the 1.0 of Wayland | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | we do not install to usr/local/ | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/989447 | 12:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 989447 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "There is no way to select kwin_gles as window manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: does kwin_gles still exist? | 13:00 |
| mgraesslin | sure | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | I thought that it'd be default by now ^^ | 13:00 |
| mgraesslin | [14:54] <apachelogger> yeah I seemed to remember that nvidia properietary has its own libEGL which apparently is not the case anyway | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: so how do you select kwin_gles? | 13:01 |
| mgraesslin | env variable | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:02 |
| mgraesslin | one could solve it in the package by having a diversion | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | I suppose the package description or readme should mention that | 13:02 |
| mgraesslin | proper way would be the diversion I think | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | well in theory installing kde-window-manager-gles could replace kde-window-manager, which is like a divert on package level | 13:03 |
| fregl | apachelogger: d'oh, thanks | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | fregl: np ^^ | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: ok | 13:04 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: the only danger is if an NVIDIA user installs the package | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: it doesn't work with nvidia? | 13:04 |
| mgraesslin | of course not | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 13:05 |
| mgraesslin | not (yet) | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | we could make -gles conflict nvidia | 13:05 |
| * fregl hugs apachelogger (and has a working kwin again) | 13:05 | |
| mgraesslin | thinking about it: the only real use case is on ARM | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | though I see that working out like: user wants to install -gles, doesn't read and clicks ok, nvidia is removed and system reverts to nouveau, user complains because performance is bad or something | 13:06 |
| mgraesslin | on ARM one shouldn't build kwin, but only kwin_gles | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | I think we wanted it on all architectures for testing reasons? | 13:07 |
| mgraesslin | on desktop we already support using EGL instead of GLX | 13:07 |
| mgraesslin | so that testing use case is kind of obsoleted since 4.10 | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | ah, then let's limit it to arm | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | \o <- arm | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | <- quite the joker today | 13:07 |
| mgraesslin | if you build it without OpenGL around it will also be called "kwin" and not "kwin_gles" | 13:08 |
| mgraesslin | so no need to do env variable tricks or anything | 13:08 |
| * mgraesslin hopes to not tell any nonesense | 13:09 | |
| mgraesslin | long time ago since I looked at that part of cmake | 13:09 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: is it possible to get the build logs from ARM somewhere? | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | usrc:kde-workspace :P | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2/+build/4499710/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.2-0ubuntu2_UPLOADING.txt.gz | 13:13 |
| mgraesslin | usrc? web shortcut not found | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | that's because you use the wrong linux apparently :P | 13:13 |
| mgraesslin | you don't build neon for ARM, right? | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | not yet | 13:14 |
| mgraesslin | then I need to wait till you have 4.11 in the repos | 13:15 |
| * mgraesslin knows we have some narrowing conversion warnings only on ARM | 13:15 | |
| mgraesslin | but we fixed a few hundred others in 4.11 | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: we have arm machines to build on | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | not sure if any of them work, but in theory we have them ^^ | 13:16 |
| mgraesslin | :-) | 13:16 |
| mgraesslin | I have a pandaboard, too, but Ubuntu really didn't like it | 13:16 |
| * txwikinger got totally hooked on writing Qt/C++ apps | 13:29 | |
| BluesKaj | my bank site says rekonq wdoesn't accept cookies and won't allow login , it's set to accept cookies in the configure gui , tried closing a restarting rekonq etc ,but no joy , any suggestions ? | 13:38 |
| txwikinger | try a different user agent.. (like IE7) | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | gawd fornid :) | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | forbid | 13:39 |
| txwikinger | or chrome then | 13:40 |
| txwikinger | Usually banks always work with IE | 13:40 |
| BluesKaj | txwikinger, works fine with all other browsers including opera | 13:49 |
| txwikinger | Well.. then use a user agent faking to be any of those | 13:50 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1172859] KWin crashes on startup in 13.4 with nvidia driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1172859 (by Frederik Gladhorn) | 13:52 |
| ryanakca | To whom should I forward someone looking to donate to Kubuntu? | 14:16 |
| genii-around | Probably Riddell | 14:17 |
| Riddell | yeah I'll take it ryanakca | 14:18 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Alright, forwarding | 14:18 |
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| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174501] Kubuntu 13.04 unable to shutdown/reboot/logout from KDE @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174501 (by Nina) | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138939462/plasma-desktop-20130502-114257.kcrash | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | yofel, afiestas, sreich: ^ aynone seen something similar before | 16:24 |
| Riddell | afiestas: https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/libkscreen-daily and kscreen appearing soon I hope | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311871 | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | meow | 16:28 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 311871 in notifications "Removed notifications causes unexpected crash [takeAt, QDeclarativeRepeater::itemsRemoved]" [Crash,Confirmed] | 16:28 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1173349] plasma-desktop crashes repeatedly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173349 (by abmoraz) | 16:59 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 18:04 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka) | 18:05 |
| genii-around | That one doesn't sound good. | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | talking about high impact bugs | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | I so do not want to fix this | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | didn't we drop lightdm support? | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | or was I dreaming | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | oh, I guess it makes no difference | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | did we drop what | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | as the fixy fix is in the upstart not the handoff | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hupnp/+bug/975327 is another one | 18:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 975327 in hupnp (Ubuntu) "libhupnp 1.0.0, cagibi >=0.2, kio-upnp-ms, all needed in repositories" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | or handover | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | * Drop kubuntu_kdm_plymouth_transition.diff as discussed on the mailing | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | list. Since we do not use KDM by default anymore and since the patch | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | introduces issues that are not present with a vanilla KDM. | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | okay, I'm a total nub with LO impress, and I need to edit the Name / email address in a OTP | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | where do I edit that info :/ | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | in the master slide of course | 18:19 |
| ahoneybun | hey volkan | 18:20 |
| ahoneybun | thanks apacheloggerfor the awesome new bootsplash | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | hooray | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | <3 | 18:21 |
| yofel | apachelogger: nope, not seen a crash like that so far | 18:23 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: are you here? | 18:24 |
| ahoneybun | hey shadeslayer | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | hi | 18:41 |
| ahoneybun | so quiet | 18:46 |
| yofel | happens ^^ | 18:49 |
| ahoneybun | yea I know but it was when I said something lol | 18:55 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1173349] plasma-desktop crashes repeatedly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173349 (by abmoraz) | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: order birthday package for valorie | 19:09 |
| * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. | 19:09 | |
| * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to valorie and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 19:09 | |
| kubotu | Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday valorie, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 19:09 |
| kubotu | Happy Birthday valorie :D | 19:09 |
| kubotu | To your health! | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: happy birthday :) | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | valorie: <3 happy bday <3 | 19:09 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: not to join in but, happy birthday! | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order unbirthday package for shadeslayer | 19:11 |
| * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get an unbirthday present. | 19:11 | |
| * kubotu slides an unbirthday cake and a present down the bar to shadeslayer and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 19:11 | |
| kubotu | Happy unbirthday to you, happy unbirthday to you, happy unbirthday shadeslayer, happy unbirthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 19:11 |
| kubotu | Happy Unbirthday shadeslayer :D | 19:11 |
| kubotu | To your unhealth! | 19:11 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: good luck in the election | 19:11 |
| * apachelogger giggles | 19:11 | |
| shadeslayer | what | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | kubotu is a smart robot | 19:11 |
| ahoneybun | wow | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: order python package for apachelogger | 19:11 |
| * kubotu slides python package down the bar to apachelogger | 19:11 | |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdsZT7WKjW8 | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | damnit | 19:11 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: good luck to you too | 19:12 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: https://skitterman.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/kubuntu-council-elections-2013-nomination-period-has-ended/ | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | who nominated shadeslayer :O | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | self nomination | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | :O | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | clearly you don't read your email | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | lazylogger | 19:13 |
| ahoneybun | I can't vote. | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | I can. | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | I'll vote for myself | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | though I am not nominated so I guess it's just to proof a point | 19:15 |
| ahoneybun | lol | 19:16 |
| ahoneybun | waiting for new images is long | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: we have new images for the n7 | 19:27 |
| yofel | happy birthday valorie! :D | 19:46 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1119097] plasmoidviewer binary missing from package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119097 (by juancarlospaco) | 20:09 |
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| ahoneybun | *waiting on Riddell* | 20:27 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: how goes the N10? | 20:37 |
| ahoneybun | darn even with the new images | 20:38 |
| ahoneybun | it fails to mount | 20:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: 641712 can go away when we remove kdm. | 21:33 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It does. | 21:33 |
| ScottK | (the s/mime thing) | 21:33 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: what what? | 21:47 |
| valorie | thank you thank you! | 22:11 |
| valorie | not my bday yet in this timezone, however I'm going to the opera tonight anyway | 22:11 |
| valorie | :-) | 22:11 |
| valorie | hmmm, did my last statements even get here? | 22:22 |
| valorie | crazy freenode..... | 22:22 |
| valorie | in case not, thank you thank you | 22:23 |
| valorie | not my bday yet in this timezone, however I'm going to the opera tonight anyway | 22:23 |
| valorie | :-) | 22:23 |
| valorie | off to get ready for it..... | 22:32 |
| valorie | oh by the way, on this laptop I have a clean install (long story....) and no bootsplash | 22:34 |
| valorie | in fact, I have a nosplash readout, I think | 22:35 |
| valorie | it's been so long since I've seen that I'm not sure | 22:35 |
| valorie | but is there an easy way to tell the computer to go back to using a bootsplash? i really love that glowing, pulsing kubuntu | 22:35 |
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