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popeyimage 102 seems broken can't launch media player00:07
popeybug 117539400:07
ubot5bug 1175394 in platform-api "Media player won't launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117539400:07
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mptJust posted: design for choosing the phone UI language in System Settings. (Not particularly exciting.) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText#phone-language00:45
mptAnyone heavily using the phone and getting muscle memory for items in the Launcher?01:00
mptI'm wondering about the effect of temporarily adding an item to the top of the Launcher01:00
mhall119|awaympt: I don't think you can add/remove launcher items yet01:01
mhall119|awaymost of my regular use apps aren't on it01:01
mptmhall119|away, sorry, I mean adding an item programmatically.01:01
mptAh, right01:01
mptSo you don't use it because you can't edit it01:02
mptSo it's too soon to say, understood.01:02
mhall119|awayyeah, and the ones I do use are easily accessible on the dadh too01:02
mhall119|awayso I largely bypass the launcher still01:02
mptWhich is easier to use, since it's a swipe and a tap, rather than a long swipe that changes direction01:03
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Taiten987does any one know how to debug ubuntuappmange ?06:16
SpacedOutHow does a C++/QML application or .desktop file identify full screen (tablet) or right side (phone) layouts?07:43
u1tr0nhi to all, anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu touch on Amazon kindle fire ?09:11
emtt_medoTelephone network does not work09:16
emtt_medoHello09:17
emtt_medoYes09:19
emtt_medonexus 409:20
netcurlidoes anyone know why the mobile version of wikipedia does not work correctly in the ubuntu touch browser?09:54
srs1434?10:52
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netcurliok, I found out (via webkit remote debugging \o/) that the wikipedia mobile version checks if the user agent contains 'iPhone' and then changes some stuff to avoid problems with the ios browser, which causes then problems in the Ubuntu Touch browser13:43
ninjacoder-arhello everyone13:45
ninjacoder-ari need help to install ubuntu touch on i900313:46
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ninjacoder-aranyone?13:48
Orangerninjacoder-ar: Don't ask to ask, just ask :)13:52
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klmnopqi dont understand irc14:51
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bobweaverjppiiroi1en, you around I want to talk to you about the welcome screen and making it more robust. I am working on adding in examples and help pages for qtcreator and also tutorials. But It would be easy for me if I was to alter the ubuntu/welcome stuff. Like having tabs15:58
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bobweaverjppiiroi1en,  or we could intergrate all things that are in the qtcreator welcome page as the Ubuntu SDK welcome page on tabs15:59
bobweavereither way seems like that is how sailfish and kqtcreator and also necessitia is doing it15:59
bobweaverhome/welcome page stuff15:59
popeykaleo: can you make a note of the change you made on my tablet yesterday to make more apps appear? I will lose that when I flash.16:20
capndo there are news around ubuntu touch and the samsung gs3?16:23
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kaleopopey: ./Dash/Apps/ApplicationsFilterGrid.qml line 2516:25
kaleopopey: expandable: true16:25
popeythanks kaleo16:26
ogra_popey, who owns the coreapps PPA ? we need saucy builds (or copys of the raring binaries to saucy at least)16:33
popeyogra_: fginther can help there I think16:33
popeyhe setup the ppa build system and made it build raring & quantal16:34
popeyrenato: could you please look at bug 117539416:34
ubot5bug 1175394 in platform-api "Media player won't launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117539416:34
ogra_afaik it needs one upload to actually know about the serias ... the rest should just be copy stuff16:34
ogra_*series16:34
fgintherogra_, popey, we can force a fresh dput of everything16:35
ogra_i just need installable binaries ... waether you copy or do fresh uploads i dont care :) ... whatever is less work16:35
popey+116:35
fgintherogra_, I'll get it started16:36
ogra_(and if i would be sober i could type :P )16:36
popeythanks fginther16:36
ogra_bzoltan1, Mirv  ^^ the same for canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper please ^^^16:37
Mirvogra_: copiing for qt5-proper16:42
ogra_thanks !16:42
Mirvogra_: most is actually currently in archives, I'll copy the 7 packages for raring in qt5-proper to saucy. qt5-beta-proper has all of Qt 5.0.2 then breing16:43
Mirvmaybe I'm brave and try rebuild copy for those while at it16:44
ogra_hmm, the build setup currently looks in qt5-proper16:44
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Mirvogra_: yeah yeah, that's fine, although I'd actualy very much welcome if you could try a build against qt5-beta-proper since it starts to have all of 5.0.2 in and the earlier it gets testing the sooner it can be copied to qt5-proper16:45
ogra_i will, once we have something building at all16:45
Mirvcool16:45
ogra_(preferably we dont use any PPAs in saucy indeed, this is just a  first shot)16:45
Mirvyes, indeed16:46
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ogra_kenvandine, can i have something similar for online-accounts-qt5-staging16:48
ogra_(see above ... we need saucy binaries in all the PPAs)16:49
kenvandineogra_, sure,16:49
ogra_thanks !!16:49
ogra_:)16:49
kenvandinenp16:49
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kenvandineogra_, done17:07
ogra_yay17:07
* ogra_ hugs kenvandine 17:07
kenvandineogra_, you don't actually care if it fails to build right?17:19
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fgintherogra_, popey, all of the core apps should now be building for saucy18:24
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ogra_fginther, yay, thanks18:27
popeythanks fginther18:28
tsdgeoscan anyone start a rebuild of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build-next/+build/4540627 ?18:32
tsdgeosdidrocks: ↑ ?18:32
didrocksMirv: I did it for you ^. Can you tell me a quick status of your stack?18:33
didrocksMirv: or where are you? maybe quicker to chat directly :)18:33
Mirvdiegoyam: hi! :) upstairs where there's better connectivity. stack ok, but SDK needs a rebuild which I asked Ken to do at some point - armhf failed to build seemingly because of a random chroot problem18:48
Mirvdiegoyam: sorry, I meant didrocks, please ignore :)18:49
Mirvwhere did didrocks go..18:49
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Guest55228Hey all, has anyone started a project for the Galaxy S4 yet?19:54
jussiGuest55228: looks like it, links at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices (looks like WIP)19:59
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gal007Hello people!!20:52
gal007Do you know if is it possible to install the same applications on Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu Desktop?20:53
gal007I want to buy a tablet, but I need to run MagicDraw in that20:53
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popeyogra_: is cdimage unwell?20:55
Orangergal007: To use your applications from your desktop in your tablet ?20:55
popeyi can't download the mako image http://paste.ubuntu.com/5627201/20:55
popeymight be my connection20:55
gal007Yes, Oranger20:55
popeybah, must be, its working now20:55
ogra_popey, well, you are not downloading from cdimage at all20:55
Orangergal007: Currently not, because ubuntu-touch use Mir and ubuntu desktop X1120:56
ogra_you are downloading from some machine under sciris desk20:56
popeyheh20:56
gal007I use MagicDraw in my desktop and I need edit diagrams with a tablet20:56
Orangergal007: But in few years it will :)20:56
Orangergal007: Maybe an app will make it possible20:56
ogra_popey, if it doesnt work, just go to him with a USB key ;)20:56
gal007Oh thanks Oranger!20:57
Angolareshi21:01
Angolarestrying to install ubuntu touch on galaxy nexus21:02
Angolaresfrom virtual ubuntu on virtual box under w721:02
Angolaresfrozen here:21:03
Angolaresphablet-flash -b Device detected as maguro Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109 Retrieving files Storage requirements in /data satisfied Pushing /home/21:03
Angolareson : Pushing /home/........./......../......21:03
ogra_be patient, it takes a while21:04
Angolaressomeone there???21:04
Angolareshow much is a while?21:04
ogra_a little more than a bit :)21:05
Angolares:)21:05
ogra_but less than really long21:05
Angolaresother question .... can it be installed on nexus 7 3g?21:05
ogra_(usually 10 min, max 15 i'd say)21:05
ogra_it should work, though the 3G model is slightly differently named (it isn't grouper)21:06
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ogra_you can force the grouper image or just use the manual install method from the wiki21:06
AngolaresI tried a month ago , i could install 13.04 but not ubuntu touch21:07
ogra_using the manual method ?21:07
Angolaresyess21:07
ogra_hmm, that should work21:07
Angolaresbut not on galaxy nexus21:08
Angolaresdont works on mine21:08
Angolaresstill waiting on Pushing /home/........./......../......21:09
Angolaresit could be for doing on a virtal machine?21:09
ogra_yeah, probably ... never tried it from a VM21:10
AngolaresPushing /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip21:11
Mirvdidrocks: I've been trying to reach you for quite some time, but yes jenkins stacks ok except for sdk which had apparently temporary chroot problem and I asked Ken to re-run it21:11
Mirvdidrocks: if you're interested also in the Qt 5.0.2 stack, yes there are C/R/P for the one rename transition :)21:12
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Mirv1-2h ago I got also the (almost) final piece of the puzzle - qtquick1 - in, and we've Qt Creator working together with Qt 5.0.2 fine21:13
andrilhello all21:18
Angolaresstill waiting installing touch on galaxy nexus ... is it normal?21:19
Angolaresphablet-flash -b Device detected as maguro Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109 Retrieving files Storage requirements in /data satisfied Pushing /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109/raring-preinstalled-ph21:20
Angolaresyuuujjjuuu working again!!!!21:22
ogra_congrats21:26
bobweaverhas anny one else noticed that there is no "Seek" in the qtmultimedia lib ?  or is it just me ?21:40
netcurlibobweaver, you are using a qml element from qtmultimedia 5?21:41
bobweavernetcurli,  Yeah I am making a new frontend for mythtv and am making the player and can not get the "seek" thingy to work I will pastebin21:42
bobweavernetcurli,  thanks for looking :)21:42
bobweaverhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5627337/21:43
bobweaverI have tried both  videos.seekable(videos.position + 5000)     and videos.seek(videos.position + 5000)21:43
netcurlihttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qml-qtmultimedia5-video.html#seek-method21:44
bobweaverseek is not there at all console.log well lets see what it says21:44
bobweaverfile:///home/joseph/Templates/mythbuntu-phablet/Player.qml:70: TypeError: Object Video_QMLTYPE_23(0x98903b0) has no method 'seek'21:45
didrocksMirv: \o/ on the Qt 5.0.221:45
netcurlibobweaver, that's odd..21:46
bobweaverI know rigt21:46
bobweaverthat is what I thought so I thought that I would ask here21:46
netcurliin my catchpodder app I use successfully the seek method on the Audio component of qtmultimedia21:47
netcurliso maybe only a problem with video?21:47
bobweavernetcurli, let me make sure right toolkit /me ducks21:47
bobweaverNope all my cananonical toolkits are not working on seek21:48
bobweavernetcurli,  correct it  might only be video21:49
bobweaverI will be making the music part of mythtv later on this week21:49
bobweaverbut for now I am working on live tv and also videos sections and recored section of My21:50
bobweavermyth *21:50
netcurlibobweaver, have you tried running the little example from the qtmultimedia documentation?21:55
bobweaverYup21:55
bobweaverI made a video i am uploading it now21:55
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bobweavernetcurli,  video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z0k0OwYe5Q    sorry about the sound and the fan :(22:00
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netcurlibobweaver, if you run the example from the doc you get the same error?22:08
bobweaveryup22:09
bobweaverjust got done doing that well a one that I got from online22:09
bobweavernot the shadereffects one's22:09
bobweaverI think that that player is wrote different like c++22:10
netcurlihttp://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtmultimedia/blobs/stable/src/imports/multimedia/Video.qml22:10
bobweavernot this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRln8FJvKc22:10
netcurlithis is the original source file where the seek method is present22:11
netcurliat line 39922:11
netcurlilooking at the history, it was added on January 15 201322:12
netcurlimaybe the qtmultimedia that is packaged in ubuntu is an older version..?22:12
bobweaverYeah I use to use that in ubuntu TV for the player (kinda the same player that is in Ubuntu Touch )22:13
bobweavercould be netcurli  what are you on 12.10 ?22:13
bobweavercan you run  apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin22:14
bobweaverI have 5.0.1-0ubuntu5~precise1~test122:14
bobweaversource is  http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu/22:15
netcurliI am not on my main computer right now (where I have 13.04) so I cannot check things there right now22:16
bobweavercol22:17
bobweaveryeah I think that it is just not there22:17
bobweaverIt must be on the phablet images as the media player use that22:18
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netcurlibobweaver, there is an email on the touch mailinglist by Mirv about the transition to qt 5.0.222:23
netcurlithere is a ppa mentioned there, which you could use22:23
shakeelhi...22:44
shakeelcan i know wheather i will be able to open my andriod apps after installing unbuntu on my phone...>22:45
k1l_ubuntu cant use the android apps22:45
shakeelif i upgrade my phone then how will i come back to my andriod os back...?22:46
k1l_shakeel: make a nandroid backup first22:47
shakeelhow to make that....?22:48
k1l_i would suggest to look at xda-developers what is the best way for your device22:48
shakeelarent they like both os running at a time...? like my pc had both windows and ubuntu.... at startup i select on which one i want to login....>22:50
k1l_no22:50
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Mirvmm, if I get a "object has no attribute 'pointing_device'" on a device when trying to run autopilot tests, what am I missing?23:35
MirvI've autopilot-phablet installed, which was what I thought supports this concept of pointing_device23:35
Mirvpopey, are you familiar with that stuff ^ ?23:37
MirvI apt-get installed phone-app-autopilot and tried autopilot run phone_app23:38
Mirvvia ssh23:38
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sergiusensmhall119|away: popey: you around?23:57

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