[00:07] <popey> image 102 seems broken can't launch media player
[00:07] <popey> bug 1175394
[00:45] <mpt> Just posted: design for choosing the phone UI language in System Settings. (Not particularly exciting.) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText#phone-language
[01:00] <mpt> Anyone heavily using the phone and getting muscle memory for items in the Launcher?
[01:00] <mpt> I'm wondering about the effect of temporarily adding an item to the top of the Launcher
[01:01] <mhall119|away> mpt: I don't think you can add/remove launcher items yet
[01:01] <mhall119|away> most of my regular use apps aren't on it
[01:01] <mpt> mhall119|away, sorry, I mean adding an item programmatically.
[01:01] <mpt> Ah, right
[01:02] <mpt> So you don't use it because you can't edit it
[01:02] <mpt> So it's too soon to say, understood.
[01:02] <mhall119|away> yeah, and the ones I do use are easily accessible on the dadh too
[01:02] <mhall119|away> so I largely bypass the launcher still
[01:03] <mpt> Which is easier to use, since it's a swipe and a tap, rather than a long swipe that changes direction
[06:16] <Taiten987> does any one know how to debug ubuntuappmange ?
[07:43] <SpacedOut> How does a C++/QML application or .desktop file identify full screen (tablet) or right side (phone) layouts?
[09:11] <u1tr0n> hi to all, anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu touch on Amazon kindle fire ?
[09:16] <emtt_medo> Telephone network does not work
[09:17] <emtt_medo> Hello
[09:19] <emtt_medo> Yes
[09:20] <emtt_medo> nexus 4
[09:54] <netcurli> does anyone know why the mobile version of wikipedia does not work correctly in the ubuntu touch browser?
[10:52] <srs1434> ?
[13:43] <netcurli> ok, I found out (via webkit remote debugging \o/) that the wikipedia mobile version checks if the user agent contains 'iPhone' and then changes some stuff to avoid problems with the ios browser, which causes then problems in the Ubuntu Touch browser
[13:45] <ninjacoder-ar> hello everyone
[13:46] <ninjacoder-ar> i need help to install ubuntu touch on i9003
[13:48] <ninjacoder-ar> anyone?
[13:52] <Oranger> ninjacoder-ar: Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[14:51] <klmnopq> i dont understand irc
[15:58] <bobweaver> jppiiroi1en, you around I want to talk to you about the welcome screen and making it more robust. I am working on adding in examples and help pages for qtcreator and also tutorials. But It would be easy for me if I was to alter the ubuntu/welcome stuff. Like having tabs
[15:59] <bobweaver> jppiiroi1en,  or we could intergrate all things that are in the qtcreator welcome page as the Ubuntu SDK welcome page on tabs
[15:59] <bobweaver> either way seems like that is how sailfish and kqtcreator and also necessitia is doing it
[15:59] <bobweaver> home/welcome page stuff
[16:20] <popey> kaleo: can you make a note of the change you made on my tablet yesterday to make more apps appear? I will lose that when I flash.
[16:23] <capn> do there are news around ubuntu touch and the samsung gs3?
[16:25] <kaleo> popey: ./Dash/Apps/ApplicationsFilterGrid.qml line 25
[16:25] <kaleo> popey: expandable: true
[16:26] <popey> thanks kaleo
[16:33] <ogra_> popey, who owns the coreapps PPA ? we need saucy builds (or copys of the raring binaries to saucy at least)
[16:33] <popey> ogra_: fginther can help there I think
[16:34] <popey> he setup the ppa build system and made it build raring & quantal
[16:34] <popey> renato: could you please look at bug 1175394
[16:34] <ogra_> afaik it needs one upload to actually know about the serias ... the rest should just be copy stuff
[16:34] <ogra_> *series
[16:35] <fginther> ogra_, popey, we can force a fresh dput of everything
[16:35] <ogra_> i just need installable binaries ... waether you copy or do fresh uploads i dont care :) ... whatever is less work
[16:35] <popey> +1
[16:36] <fginther> ogra_, I'll get it started
[16:36] <ogra_> (and if i would be sober i could type :P )
[16:36] <popey> thanks fginther
[16:37] <ogra_> bzoltan1, Mirv  ^^ the same for canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper please ^^^
[16:42] <Mirv> ogra_: copiing for qt5-proper
[16:42] <ogra_> thanks !
[16:43] <Mirv> ogra_: most is actually currently in archives, I'll copy the 7 packages for raring in qt5-proper to saucy. qt5-beta-proper has all of Qt 5.0.2 then breing
[16:44] <Mirv> maybe I'm brave and try rebuild copy for those while at it
[16:44] <ogra_> hmm, the build setup currently looks in qt5-proper
[16:45] <Mirv> ogra_: yeah yeah, that's fine, although I'd actualy very much welcome if you could try a build against qt5-beta-proper since it starts to have all of 5.0.2 in and the earlier it gets testing the sooner it can be copied to qt5-proper
[16:45] <ogra_> i will, once we have something building at all
[16:45] <Mirv> cool
[16:45] <ogra_> (preferably we dont use any PPAs in saucy indeed, this is just a  first shot)
[16:46] <Mirv> yes, indeed
[16:48] <ogra_> kenvandine, can i have something similar for online-accounts-qt5-staging
[16:49] <ogra_> (see above ... we need saucy binaries in all the PPAs)
[16:49] <kenvandine> ogra_, sure,
[16:49] <ogra_> thanks !!
[16:49] <ogra_> :)
[16:49] <kenvandine> np
[17:07] <kenvandine> ogra_, done
[17:07] <ogra_> yay
[17:07]  * ogra_ hugs kenvandine 
[17:19] <kenvandine> ogra_, you don't actually care if it fails to build right?
[18:24] <fginther> ogra_, popey, all of the core apps should now be building for saucy
[18:27] <ogra_> fginther, yay, thanks
[18:28] <popey> thanks fginther
[18:32] <tsdgeos> can anyone start a rebuild of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build-next/+build/4540627 ?
[18:32] <tsdgeos> didrocks: ↑ ?
[18:33] <didrocks> Mirv: I did it for you ^. Can you tell me a quick status of your stack?
[18:33] <didrocks> Mirv: or where are you? maybe quicker to chat directly :)
[18:48] <Mirv> diegoyam: hi! :) upstairs where there's better connectivity. stack ok, but SDK needs a rebuild which I asked Ken to do at some point - armhf failed to build seemingly because of a random chroot problem
[18:49] <Mirv> diegoyam: sorry, I meant didrocks, please ignore :)
[18:49] <Mirv> where did didrocks go..
[19:54] <Guest55228> Hey all, has anyone started a project for the Galaxy S4 yet?
[19:59] <jussi> Guest55228: looks like it, links at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices (looks like WIP)
[20:52] <gal007> Hello people!!
[20:53] <gal007> Do you know if is it possible to install the same applications on Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:53] <gal007> I want to buy a tablet, but I need to run MagicDraw in that
[20:55] <popey> ogra_: is cdimage unwell?
[20:55] <Oranger> gal007: To use your applications from your desktop in your tablet ?
[20:55] <popey> i can't download the mako image http://paste.ubuntu.com/5627201/
[20:55] <popey> might be my connection
[20:55] <gal007> Yes, Oranger
[20:55] <popey> bah, must be, its working now
[20:55] <ogra_> popey, well, you are not downloading from cdimage at all
[20:56] <Oranger> gal007: Currently not, because ubuntu-touch use Mir and ubuntu desktop X11
[20:56] <ogra_> you are downloading from some machine under sciris desk
[20:56] <popey> heh
[20:56] <gal007> I use MagicDraw in my desktop and I need edit diagrams with a tablet
[20:56] <Oranger> gal007: But in few years it will :)
[20:56] <Oranger> gal007: Maybe an app will make it possible
[20:56] <ogra_> popey, if it doesnt work, just go to him with a USB key ;)
[20:57] <gal007> Oh thanks Oranger!
[21:01] <Angolares> hi
[21:02] <Angolares> trying to install ubuntu touch on galaxy nexus
[21:02] <Angolares> from virtual ubuntu on virtual box under w7
[21:03] <Angolares> frozen here:
[21:03] <Angolares> phablet-flash -b Device detected as maguro Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109 Retrieving files Storage requirements in /data satisfied Pushing /home/
[21:03] <Angolares> on : Pushing /home/........./......../......
[21:04] <ogra_> be patient, it takes a while
[21:04] <Angolares> someone there???
[21:04] <Angolares> how much is a while?
[21:05] <ogra_> a little more than a bit :)
[21:05] <Angolares> :)
[21:05] <ogra_> but less than really long
[21:05] <Angolares> other question .... can it be installed on nexus 7 3g?
[21:05] <ogra_> (usually 10 min, max 15 i'd say)
[21:06] <ogra_> it should work, though the 3G model is slightly differently named (it isn't grouper)
[21:06] <ogra_> you can force the grouper image or just use the manual install method from the wiki
[21:07] <Angolares> I tried a month ago , i could install 13.04 but not ubuntu touch
[21:07] <ogra_> using the manual method ?
[21:07] <Angolares> yess
[21:07] <ogra_> hmm, that should work
[21:08] <Angolares> but not on galaxy nexus
[21:08] <Angolares> dont works on mine
[21:09] <Angolares> still waiting on Pushing /home/........./......../......
[21:09] <Angolares> it could be for doing on a virtal machine?
[21:10] <ogra_> yeah, probably ... never tried it from a VM
[21:11] <Angolares> Pushing /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[21:11] <Mirv> didrocks: I've been trying to reach you for quite some time, but yes jenkins stacks ok except for sdk which had apparently temporary chroot problem and I asked Ken to re-run it
[21:12] <Mirv> didrocks: if you're interested also in the Qt 5.0.2 stack, yes there are C/R/P for the one rename transition :)
[21:13] <Mirv> 1-2h ago I got also the (almost) final piece of the puzzle - qtquick1 - in, and we've Qt Creator working together with Qt 5.0.2 fine
[21:18] <andril> hello all
[21:19] <Angolares> still waiting installing touch on galaxy nexus ... is it normal?
[21:20] <Angolares> phablet-flash -b Device detected as maguro Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109 Retrieving files Storage requirements in /data satisfied Pushing /home/dcm/Descargas/phablet-flash/109/raring-preinstalled-ph
[21:22] <Angolares> yuuujjjuuu working again!!!!
[21:26] <ogra_> congrats
[21:40] <bobweaver> has anny one else noticed that there is no "Seek" in the qtmultimedia lib ?  or is it just me ?
[21:41] <netcurli> bobweaver, you are using a qml element from qtmultimedia 5?
[21:42] <bobweaver> netcurli,  Yeah I am making a new frontend for mythtv and am making the player and can not get the "seek" thingy to work I will pastebin
[21:42] <bobweaver> netcurli,  thanks for looking :)
[21:43] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5627337/
[21:43] <bobweaver> I have tried both  videos.seekable(videos.position + 5000)     and videos.seek(videos.position + 5000)
[21:44] <netcurli> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qml-qtmultimedia5-video.html#seek-method
[21:44] <bobweaver> seek is not there at all console.log well lets see what it says
[21:45] <bobweaver> file:///home/joseph/Templates/mythbuntu-phablet/Player.qml:70: TypeError: Object Video_QMLTYPE_23(0x98903b0) has no method 'seek'
[21:45] <didrocks> Mirv: \o/ on the Qt 5.0.2
[21:46] <netcurli> bobweaver, that's odd..
[21:46] <bobweaver> I know rigt
[21:46] <bobweaver> that is what I thought so I thought that I would ask here
[21:47] <netcurli> in my catchpodder app I use successfully the seek method on the Audio component of qtmultimedia
[21:47] <netcurli> so maybe only a problem with video?
[21:47] <bobweaver> netcurli, let me make sure right toolkit /me ducks
[21:48] <bobweaver> Nope all my cananonical toolkits are not working on seek
[21:49] <bobweaver> netcurli,  correct it  might only be video
[21:49] <bobweaver> I will be making the music part of mythtv later on this week
[21:50] <bobweaver> but for now I am working on live tv and also videos sections and recored section of My
[21:50] <bobweaver> myth *
[21:55] <netcurli> bobweaver, have you tried running the little example from the qtmultimedia documentation?
[21:55] <bobweaver> Yup
[21:55] <bobweaver> I made a video i am uploading it now
[22:00] <bobweaver> netcurli,  video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z0k0OwYe5Q    sorry about the sound and the fan :(
[22:01]  * bobweaver has to get a better mic interneal is right next to fan 
[22:08] <netcurli> bobweaver, if you run the example from the doc you get the same error?
[22:09] <bobweaver> yup
[22:09] <bobweaver> just got done doing that well a one that I got from online
[22:09] <bobweaver> not the shadereffects one's
[22:10] <bobweaver> I think that that player is wrote different like c++
[22:10] <netcurli> http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtmultimedia/blobs/stable/src/imports/multimedia/Video.qml
[22:10] <bobweaver> not this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRln8FJvKc
[22:11] <netcurli> this is the original source file where the seek method is present
[22:11] <netcurli> at line 399
[22:12] <netcurli> looking at the history, it was added on January 15 2013
[22:12] <netcurli> maybe the qtmultimedia that is packaged in ubuntu is an older version..?
[22:13] <bobweaver> Yeah I use to use that in ubuntu TV for the player (kinda the same player that is in Ubuntu Touch )
[22:13] <bobweaver> could be netcurli  what are you on 12.10 ?
[22:14] <bobweaver> can you run  apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin
[22:14] <bobweaver> I have 5.0.1-0ubuntu5~precise1~test1
[22:15] <bobweaver> source is  http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu/
[22:16] <netcurli> I am not on my main computer right now (where I have 13.04) so I cannot check things there right now
[22:17] <bobweaver> col
[22:17] <bobweaver> yeah I think that it is just not there
[22:18] <bobweaver> It must be on the phablet images as the media player use that
[22:23] <netcurli> bobweaver, there is an email on the touch mailinglist by Mirv about the transition to qt 5.0.2
[22:23] <netcurli> there is a ppa mentioned there, which you could use
[22:44] <shakeel> hi...
[22:45] <shakeel> can i know wheather i will be able to open my andriod apps after installing unbuntu on my phone...>
[22:45] <k1l_> ubuntu cant use the android apps
[22:46] <shakeel> if i upgrade my phone then how will i come back to my andriod os back...?
[22:47] <k1l_> shakeel: make a nandroid backup first
[22:48] <shakeel> how to make that....?
[22:48] <k1l_> i would suggest to look at xda-developers what is the best way for your device
[22:50] <shakeel> arent they like both os running at a time...? like my pc had both windows and ubuntu.... at startup i select on which one i want to login....>
[22:50] <k1l_> no
[23:35] <Mirv> mm, if I get a "object has no attribute 'pointing_device'" on a device when trying to run autopilot tests, what am I missing?
[23:35] <Mirv> I've autopilot-phablet installed, which was what I thought supports this concept of pointing_device
[23:37] <Mirv> popey, are you familiar with that stuff ^ ?
[23:38] <Mirv> I apt-get installed phone-app-autopilot and tried autopilot run phone_app
[23:38] <Mirv> via ssh
[23:57] <sergiusens> mhall119|away: popey: you around?