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rick_h_morning11:24
snap-lmorning12:11
snap-lfeel like a space cadet this morning. Damn allergies.12:11
snap-lbrb/12:11
brouschWhy is MakerFaire Detroit always in conflict with PyOhio?12:16
rick_h_because PyOhio don't care :P12:17
brouschI'm part of GRMakers and we have a big group going to Detroit this year12:24
rick_h_ah12:25
brouschWas at mobile dev and makers from 5:20PM - midnight yesterday12:28
rick_h_ah, party party12:33
rick_h_man I <3 usb312:46
rick_h_copying 80GB like it's nadda12:46
snap-lThe new The Ocean album is pretty great13:21
brouschBilly Ocean?13:22
snap-lhttp://theoceancollective.com/pelagial/13:22
snap-lI wish more bands released an instrumental disc of their music to go along with the regular disc14:29
snap-lMan, to think I passed this up for a paganini disc. Thankfully the Paganini disc was scratched, so I decided to trade up the exchange for this album.14:36
snap-lHad to look up the word "Twerking" to understand a news headline16:39
greg-gI just lost 30 secons of my life thanks to that16:40
waldo323rick_h_, i think my issue was an old install of ksplice getting in the way of depmod running correctly16:50
snap-lgreg-g: Be glad t was only 30 seconds17:01
brouschsnap-l: Twerk sounds like what they'd call you in middle school17:16
snap-lderekv: You're just now realizing RESTful is not a guarantee?19:19
snap-lhttp://news.turbulenz.com/post/49430669886/turbulenz-engine-goes-open-source <- this looks cool19:55
jrwreni feel like we are getting there with our setuptools and debian packing. YAY19:56
brouschMy javascript file for this complicated page is such a mess. rick_h_ would beat me about the head and neck if he saw it20:39
brousch500 lines of unorganized jquery20:41
rick_h_brousch: sounds good, let me know when you want this beating20:41
greg-gguh, me and touchpads don't get along20:49
rick_h_greg-g: :(20:49
rick_h_greg-g: so, is there the choice to just buy your own laptop and bring it in?20:49
rick_h_greg-g: something I've done my last couple of jobs since they gave out crap hardware20:49
greg-gI mean, I could, but:20:49
rick_h_greg-g: k, just checking. I know some places have policy/etc20:49
brouschGet a usb mouse20:50
greg-gmostly, my x200s works fine, I just want to leave it at home/not lug it to/from work every day20:50
rick_h_yea, I have three of those MS arc mice (older gen) for some portable stuff.20:50
rick_h_greg-g: gotcha20:50
greg-gbrousch: I'm on a counch, when I'm at my standing desk, it isn't any issue20:50
brouschah20:50
greg-gwhich basically means: this laptop is a great desktop, but a horrible laptop20:51
greg-gs/desktop/nettop/20:52
rick_h_lol20:52
greg-g:)20:52
jrwrenmacbookair 13" fits into pannier with change of clothes and lunch. :)20:54
jrwrenbike commute ftw!20:54
rick_h_<3 http://www.tombihn.com/backpacks/TB0111.html20:54
rick_h_I think it's the perfect bag if you're a sub 14" laptop person20:54
greg-gjrwren: the x200s fits in my pannier, but I have real hills here, so even just a couple pounds is annoying :)20:56
jrwrenlol. I'll remember that as i'm going up the traver rd. hills today :)20:56
greg-g:)20:57
jrwrenbackpacks + bikes => pain20:59
rick_h_ok, time to reboot and install raring. See you all on the other side.20:59
jrwrengood luck rick_h_20:59
rick_h_I don't know, I like small backpacks myself.20:59
jrwrenwhy not install and then reboot?20:59
greg-gpanniers ftw ;)20:59
rick_h_jrwren: because I need to reboot into my usb device to blow things away and install...and reboot21:00
jrwren:)21:00
jrwreni upgrade.21:00
rick_h_I like the change to clean house. Only copy off the old backup what i need as I need it. Then stick it on the NAS for years until I go 'wtf...delete'21:00
rick_h_/change/chance21:00
rick_h_and one less worry if something breaks, though it sholdn't21:01
jrwrenyup, lots of people do it that way.21:01
jrwreni like the ease of upgrade, walk away, come back. done.21:01
jrwreni don't have to do anything21:01
greg-gexcept get new software, yay!21:01
jrwrenyay!21:02
greg-g:)21:02
jrwrenand i'm not hating xfce.21:02
jrwrenits matured a lot and uses old windows keybindings, so I know how ot use it.21:02
jrwrenunity ui can diaf21:02
rick_h_yay for usb installs from usb321:12
rick_h_so, anyone know where the DE picker from lightdm went in 13.04?21:51
rick_h_using unity isn't exactly my hope and dream21:51
rick_h_dammit22:01
greg-glol22:05
rick_h_seriously, I can login, but there's no button/control/etc to choose any alt DE22:06
greg-gboy I love the Canonical Design Team22:06
rick_h_I found refernece to a .dmrc file, but every time I change it, log out nad back in it gets rewritten22:06
rick_h_hmm, and no font adjustments?22:07
greg-gso, seriously, this can't be right, they wouldn't knowingly make it so you can't select your DM anymore22:08
rick_h_greg-g: yea, I found a bug from last year about seeing the option but not clickable22:08
greg-gI remember seeing a bug about the raring lightdm greeter where someone's list of 4 or 5 DEs was too long and they couldn't select things22:08
rick_h_and I have three different sessions in ls /usr/share/xsessions/22:08
rick_h_gnome, ubuntu, awesome22:08
greg-gwell, guess who's not updating this ubuntu install then22:09
greg-gif you had done an upgrade, I'd just blame it on your crazy amount of customization, but as this is a clean install....22:10
greg-gI think Ubuntu has a dotfile limit, right?22:10
rick_h_?22:11
rick_h_dotfile limit?22:11
rick_h_https://www.dropbox.com/s/m701hfe9h2pwnql/2013-05-02%2018.09.20.jpg22:11
rick_h_anyone see anything diff?22:12
greg-grick_h_: joke, sorry22:12
rick_h_:P22:12
greg-gis there a button on the top/bottom right?22:12
rick_h_no, the only button is that arrow which logs me in22:13
greg-ganywhere on the screen?22:13
greg-glike, near where it says the time?22:13
rick_h_there's the accessibility/wifi/etc up to the top right22:13
rick_h_but nothing that looks like choosing a DE22:13
greg-gthis suggests maybe that gear button: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html22:14
rick_h_greg-g: not following22:17
rick_h_greg-g: I see they turn off some dots and they turn off the extra sesssions but they look my screen w/o a DE chooser button in the user login controls22:18
greg-gsorry, copy fail: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4S_Ok5pAoEQ/UXhMfwgfLII/AAAAAAAAC_Y/yLVu7BZwXYo/s1000/white-dot.jpg22:19
greg-gthe gear in the top right22:19
rick_h_that gear is just reboot, shutdown22:19
greg-gwell damn22:19
greg-ghahah22:19
greg-gperfect22:19
greg-gsorry22:20
rick_h_damn...this is annoying.22:21
rick_h_I mean, I expect to have to run some unity next week. However, wtf22:21
greg-g:)22:21
rick_h_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/1094811 jcastro had a bug in an ask ubuntu closed question for me22:26
brouschThe K is calling you22:27
rick_h_I'd stick with unity :P22:27
brouschKome join the Klan22:27
rick_h_if I wanted windows I'd just use windows22:27
rick_h_though that's an outdated view of the K I suppose22:28
brouschSo much nicer than windows22:28
rick_h_oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh yea that feels better22:29
rick_h_but report had a hack/fix to the session file22:30
greg-grick_h_: huh, don't you also have gnome3 installed? I thought you did for some reason22:30
rick_h_greg-g: no, I don't know why gnome was in the sesion list22:30
greg-ghuh22:31
greg-gwell then22:31
rick_h_for some reason the session file that came with the awesome package has a 'NoShow=true' or someting on it22:31
greg-gyeah, odd22:31
rick_h_yea, don't know why they're listed in the sessions like that ootb22:32
rick_h_phew, feel alive again. vim works, keyboard shortcuts work, chrome is catching up. yay22:53
greg-gchrome is catching up?22:53
rick_h_yea, put in your auth to sync and takes a few for the extensoins, history completion, etc to catch up22:54
rick_h_so starting to look close to usual22:54
greg-goh, right22:54
brouschThe first thing I install is deadsnakes and ALL THE PYTHONS23:02
rick_h_woot, python3 --version 3.3.123:06
rick_h_on raring so no more need to compile my own python yay23:06
brouschYou didn't have to before :P23:44

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