[11:24] morning [12:11] morning [12:11] feel like a space cadet this morning. Damn allergies. [12:11] brb/ [12:16] Why is MakerFaire Detroit always in conflict with PyOhio? [12:17] because PyOhio don't care :P [12:24] I'm part of GRMakers and we have a big group going to Detroit this year [12:25] ah [12:28] Was at mobile dev and makers from 5:20PM - midnight yesterday [12:33] ah, party party [12:46] man I <3 usb3 [12:46] copying 80GB like it's nadda [13:21] The new The Ocean album is pretty great [13:22] Billy Ocean? [13:22] http://theoceancollective.com/pelagial/ [14:29] I wish more bands released an instrumental disc of their music to go along with the regular disc [14:36] Man, to think I passed this up for a paganini disc. Thankfully the Paganini disc was scratched, so I decided to trade up the exchange for this album. [16:39] Had to look up the word "Twerking" to understand a news headline [16:40] I just lost 30 secons of my life thanks to that [16:50] rick_h_, i think my issue was an old install of ksplice getting in the way of depmod running correctly [17:01] greg-g: Be glad t was only 30 seconds [17:16] snap-l: Twerk sounds like what they'd call you in middle school [19:19] derekv: You're just now realizing RESTful is not a guarantee? [19:55] http://news.turbulenz.com/post/49430669886/turbulenz-engine-goes-open-source <- this looks cool [19:56] i feel like we are getting there with our setuptools and debian packing. YAY [20:39] My javascript file for this complicated page is such a mess. rick_h_ would beat me about the head and neck if he saw it [20:41] 500 lines of unorganized jquery [20:41] brousch: sounds good, let me know when you want this beating [20:49] guh, me and touchpads don't get along [20:49] greg-g: :( [20:49] greg-g: so, is there the choice to just buy your own laptop and bring it in? [20:49] greg-g: something I've done my last couple of jobs since they gave out crap hardware [20:49] I mean, I could, but: [20:49] greg-g: k, just checking. I know some places have policy/etc [20:50] Get a usb mouse [20:50] mostly, my x200s works fine, I just want to leave it at home/not lug it to/from work every day [20:50] yea, I have three of those MS arc mice (older gen) for some portable stuff. [20:50] greg-g: gotcha [20:50] brousch: I'm on a counch, when I'm at my standing desk, it isn't any issue [20:50] ah [20:51] which basically means: this laptop is a great desktop, but a horrible laptop [20:52] s/desktop/nettop/ [20:52] lol [20:52] :) [20:54] macbookair 13" fits into pannier with change of clothes and lunch. :) [20:54] bike commute ftw! [20:54] <3 http://www.tombihn.com/backpacks/TB0111.html [20:54] I think it's the perfect bag if you're a sub 14" laptop person [20:56] jrwren: the x200s fits in my pannier, but I have real hills here, so even just a couple pounds is annoying :) [20:56] lol. I'll remember that as i'm going up the traver rd. hills today :) [20:57] :) [20:59] backpacks + bikes => pain [20:59] ok, time to reboot and install raring. See you all on the other side. [20:59] good luck rick_h_ [20:59] I don't know, I like small backpacks myself. [20:59] why not install and then reboot? [20:59] panniers ftw ;) [21:00] jrwren: because I need to reboot into my usb device to blow things away and install...and reboot [21:00] :) [21:00] i upgrade. [21:00] I like the change to clean house. Only copy off the old backup what i need as I need it. Then stick it on the NAS for years until I go 'wtf...delete' [21:00] /change/chance [21:01] and one less worry if something breaks, though it sholdn't [21:01] yup, lots of people do it that way. [21:01] i like the ease of upgrade, walk away, come back. done. [21:01] i don't have to do anything [21:01] except get new software, yay! [21:02] yay! [21:02] :) [21:02] and i'm not hating xfce. [21:02] its matured a lot and uses old windows keybindings, so I know how ot use it. [21:02] unity ui can diaf [21:12] yay for usb installs from usb3 [21:51] so, anyone know where the DE picker from lightdm went in 13.04? [21:51] using unity isn't exactly my hope and dream [22:01] dammit [22:05] lol [22:06] seriously, I can login, but there's no button/control/etc to choose any alt DE [22:06] boy I love the Canonical Design Team [22:06] I found refernece to a .dmrc file, but every time I change it, log out nad back in it gets rewritten [22:07] hmm, and no font adjustments? [22:08] so, seriously, this can't be right, they wouldn't knowingly make it so you can't select your DM anymore [22:08] greg-g: yea, I found a bug from last year about seeing the option but not clickable [22:08] I remember seeing a bug about the raring lightdm greeter where someone's list of 4 or 5 DEs was too long and they couldn't select things [22:08] and I have three different sessions in ls /usr/share/xsessions/ [22:08] gnome, ubuntu, awesome [22:09] well, guess who's not updating this ubuntu install then [22:10] if you had done an upgrade, I'd just blame it on your crazy amount of customization, but as this is a clean install.... [22:10] I think Ubuntu has a dotfile limit, right? [22:11] ? [22:11] dotfile limit? [22:11] https://www.dropbox.com/s/m701hfe9h2pwnql/2013-05-02%2018.09.20.jpg [22:12] anyone see anything diff? [22:12] rick_h_: joke, sorry [22:12] :P [22:12] is there a button on the top/bottom right? [22:13] no, the only button is that arrow which logs me in [22:13] anywhere on the screen? [22:13] like, near where it says the time? [22:13] there's the accessibility/wifi/etc up to the top right [22:13] but nothing that looks like choosing a DE [22:14] this suggests maybe that gear button: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html [22:17] greg-g: not following [22:18] greg-g: I see they turn off some dots and they turn off the extra sesssions but they look my screen w/o a DE chooser button in the user login controls [22:19] sorry, copy fail: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4S_Ok5pAoEQ/UXhMfwgfLII/AAAAAAAAC_Y/yLVu7BZwXYo/s1000/white-dot.jpg [22:19] the gear in the top right [22:19] that gear is just reboot, shutdown [22:19] well damn [22:19] hahah [22:19] perfect [22:20] sorry [22:21] damn...this is annoying. [22:21] I mean, I expect to have to run some unity next week. However, wtf [22:21] :) [22:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/1094811 jcastro had a bug in an ask ubuntu closed question for me [22:27] The K is calling you [22:27] I'd stick with unity :P [22:27] Kome join the Klan [22:27] if I wanted windows I'd just use windows [22:28] though that's an outdated view of the K I suppose [22:28] So much nicer than windows [22:29] oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh yea that feels better [22:30] but report had a hack/fix to the session file [22:30] rick_h_: huh, don't you also have gnome3 installed? I thought you did for some reason [22:30] greg-g: no, I don't know why gnome was in the sesion list [22:31] huh [22:31] well then [22:31] for some reason the session file that came with the awesome package has a 'NoShow=true' or someting on it [22:31] yeah, odd [22:32] yea, don't know why they're listed in the sessions like that ootb [22:53] phew, feel alive again. vim works, keyboard shortcuts work, chrome is catching up. yay [22:53] chrome is catching up? [22:54] yea, put in your auth to sync and takes a few for the extensoins, history completion, etc to catch up [22:54] so starting to look close to usual [22:54] oh, right [23:02] The first thing I install is deadsnakes and ALL THE PYTHONS [23:06] woot, python3 --version 3.3.1 [23:06] on raring so no more need to compile my own python yay [23:44] You didn't have to before :P