[11:24] <rick_h_> morning
[12:11] <snap-l> morning
[12:11] <snap-l> feel like a space cadet this morning. Damn allergies.
[12:11] <snap-l> brb/
[12:16] <brousch> Why is MakerFaire Detroit always in conflict with PyOhio?
[12:17] <rick_h_> because PyOhio don't care :P
[12:24] <brousch> I'm part of GRMakers and we have a big group going to Detroit this year
[12:25] <rick_h_> ah
[12:28] <brousch> Was at mobile dev and makers from 5:20PM - midnight yesterday
[12:33] <rick_h_> ah, party party
[12:46] <rick_h_> man I <3 usb3
[12:46] <rick_h_> copying 80GB like it's nadda
[13:21] <snap-l> The new The Ocean album is pretty great
[13:22] <brousch> Billy Ocean?
[13:22] <snap-l> http://theoceancollective.com/pelagial/
[14:29] <snap-l> I wish more bands released an instrumental disc of their music to go along with the regular disc
[14:36] <snap-l> Man, to think I passed this up for a paganini disc. Thankfully the Paganini disc was scratched, so I decided to trade up the exchange for this album.
[16:39] <snap-l> Had to look up the word "Twerking" to understand a news headline
[16:40] <greg-g> I just lost 30 secons of my life thanks to that
[16:50] <waldo323> rick_h_, i think my issue was an old install of ksplice getting in the way of depmod running correctly
[17:01] <snap-l> greg-g: Be glad t was only 30 seconds
[17:16] <brousch> snap-l: Twerk sounds like what they'd call you in middle school
[19:19] <snap-l> derekv: You're just now realizing RESTful is not a guarantee?
[19:55] <snap-l> http://news.turbulenz.com/post/49430669886/turbulenz-engine-goes-open-source <- this looks cool
[19:56] <jrwren> i feel like we are getting there with our setuptools and debian packing. YAY
[20:39] <brousch> My javascript file for this complicated page is such a mess. rick_h_ would beat me about the head and neck if he saw it
[20:41] <brousch> 500 lines of unorganized jquery
[20:41] <rick_h_> brousch: sounds good, let me know when you want this beating
[20:49] <greg-g> guh, me and touchpads don't get along
[20:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: :(
[20:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: so, is there the choice to just buy your own laptop and bring it in?
[20:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: something I've done my last couple of jobs since they gave out crap hardware
[20:49] <greg-g> I mean, I could, but:
[20:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: k, just checking. I know some places have policy/etc
[20:50] <brousch> Get a usb mouse
[20:50] <greg-g> mostly, my x200s works fine, I just want to leave it at home/not lug it to/from work every day
[20:50] <rick_h_> yea, I have three of those MS arc mice (older gen) for some portable stuff.
[20:50] <rick_h_> greg-g: gotcha
[20:50] <greg-g> brousch: I'm on a counch, when I'm at my standing desk, it isn't any issue
[20:50] <brousch> ah
[20:51] <greg-g> which basically means: this laptop is a great desktop, but a horrible laptop
[20:52] <greg-g> s/desktop/nettop/
[20:52] <rick_h_> lol
[20:52] <greg-g> :)
[20:54] <jrwren> macbookair 13" fits into pannier with change of clothes and lunch. :)
[20:54] <jrwren> bike commute ftw!
[20:54] <rick_h_> <3 http://www.tombihn.com/backpacks/TB0111.html
[20:54] <rick_h_> I think it's the perfect bag if you're a sub 14" laptop person
[20:56] <greg-g> jrwren: the x200s fits in my pannier, but I have real hills here, so even just a couple pounds is annoying :)
[20:56] <jrwren> lol. I'll remember that as i'm going up the traver rd. hills today :)
[20:57] <greg-g> :)
[20:59] <jrwren> backpacks + bikes => pain
[20:59] <rick_h_> ok, time to reboot and install raring. See you all on the other side.
[20:59] <jrwren> good luck rick_h_
[20:59] <rick_h_> I don't know, I like small backpacks myself.
[20:59] <jrwren> why not install and then reboot?
[20:59] <greg-g> panniers ftw ;)
[21:00] <rick_h_> jrwren: because I need to reboot into my usb device to blow things away and install...and reboot
[21:00] <jrwren> :)
[21:00] <jrwren> i upgrade.
[21:00] <rick_h_> I like the change to clean house. Only copy off the old backup what i need as I need it. Then stick it on the NAS for years until I go 'wtf...delete'
[21:00] <rick_h_> /change/chance
[21:01] <rick_h_> and one less worry if something breaks, though it sholdn't
[21:01] <jrwren> yup, lots of people do it that way.
[21:01] <jrwren> i like the ease of upgrade, walk away, come back. done.
[21:01] <jrwren> i don't have to do anything
[21:01] <greg-g> except get new software, yay!
[21:02] <jrwren> yay!
[21:02] <greg-g> :)
[21:02] <jrwren> and i'm not hating xfce.
[21:02] <jrwren> its matured a lot and uses old windows keybindings, so I know how ot use it.
[21:02] <jrwren> unity ui can diaf
[21:12] <rick_h_> yay for usb installs from usb3
[21:51] <rick_h_> so, anyone know where the DE picker from lightdm went in 13.04?
[21:51] <rick_h_> using unity isn't exactly my hope and dream
[22:01] <rick_h_> dammit
[22:05] <greg-g> lol
[22:06] <rick_h_> seriously, I can login, but there's no button/control/etc to choose any alt DE
[22:06] <greg-g> boy I love the Canonical Design Team
[22:06] <rick_h_> I found refernece to a .dmrc file, but every time I change it, log out nad back in it gets rewritten
[22:07] <rick_h_> hmm, and no font adjustments?
[22:08] <greg-g> so, seriously, this can't be right, they wouldn't knowingly make it so you can't select your DM anymore
[22:08] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, I found a bug from last year about seeing the option but not clickable
[22:08] <greg-g> I remember seeing a bug about the raring lightdm greeter where someone's list of 4 or 5 DEs was too long and they couldn't select things
[22:08] <rick_h_> and I have three different sessions in ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[22:08] <rick_h_> gnome, ubuntu, awesome
[22:09] <greg-g> well, guess who's not updating this ubuntu install then
[22:10] <greg-g> if you had done an upgrade, I'd just blame it on your crazy amount of customization, but as this is a clean install....
[22:10] <greg-g> I think Ubuntu has a dotfile limit, right?
[22:11] <rick_h_> ?
[22:11] <rick_h_> dotfile limit?
[22:11] <rick_h_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m701hfe9h2pwnql/2013-05-02%2018.09.20.jpg
[22:12] <rick_h_> anyone see anything diff?
[22:12] <greg-g> rick_h_: joke, sorry
[22:12] <rick_h_> :P
[22:12] <greg-g> is there a button on the top/bottom right?
[22:13] <rick_h_> no, the only button is that arrow which logs me in
[22:13] <greg-g> anywhere on the screen?
[22:13] <greg-g> like, near where it says the time?
[22:13] <rick_h_> there's the accessibility/wifi/etc up to the top right
[22:13] <rick_h_> but nothing that looks like choosing a DE
[22:14] <greg-g> this suggests maybe that gear button: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html
[22:17] <rick_h_> greg-g: not following
[22:18] <rick_h_> greg-g: I see they turn off some dots and they turn off the extra sesssions but they look my screen w/o a DE chooser button in the user login controls
[22:19] <greg-g> sorry, copy fail: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4S_Ok5pAoEQ/UXhMfwgfLII/AAAAAAAAC_Y/yLVu7BZwXYo/s1000/white-dot.jpg
[22:19] <greg-g> the gear in the top right
[22:19] <rick_h_> that gear is just reboot, shutdown
[22:19] <greg-g> well damn
[22:19] <greg-g> hahah
[22:19] <greg-g> perfect
[22:20] <greg-g> sorry
[22:21] <rick_h_> damn...this is annoying.
[22:21] <rick_h_> I mean, I expect to have to run some unity next week. However, wtf
[22:21] <greg-g> :)
[22:26] <rick_h_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/1094811 jcastro had a bug in an ask ubuntu closed question for me
[22:27] <brousch> The K is calling you
[22:27] <rick_h_> I'd stick with unity :P
[22:27] <brousch> Kome join the Klan
[22:27] <rick_h_> if I wanted windows I'd just use windows
[22:28] <rick_h_> though that's an outdated view of the K I suppose
[22:28] <brousch> So much nicer than windows
[22:29] <rick_h_> oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh yea that feels better
[22:30] <rick_h_> but report had a hack/fix to the session file
[22:30] <greg-g> rick_h_: huh, don't you also have gnome3 installed? I thought you did for some reason
[22:30] <rick_h_> greg-g: no, I don't know why gnome was in the sesion list
[22:31] <greg-g> huh
[22:31] <greg-g> well then
[22:31] <rick_h_> for some reason the session file that came with the awesome package has a 'NoShow=true' or someting on it
[22:31] <greg-g> yeah, odd
[22:32] <rick_h_> yea, don't know why they're listed in the sessions like that ootb
[22:53] <rick_h_> phew, feel alive again. vim works, keyboard shortcuts work, chrome is catching up. yay
[22:53] <greg-g> chrome is catching up?
[22:54] <rick_h_> yea, put in your auth to sync and takes a few for the extensoins, history completion, etc to catch up
[22:54] <rick_h_> so starting to look close to usual
[22:54] <greg-g> oh, right
[23:02] <brousch> The first thing I install is deadsnakes and ALL THE PYTHONS
[23:06] <rick_h_> woot, python3 --version 3.3.1
[23:06] <rick_h_> on raring so no more need to compile my own python yay
[23:44] <brousch> You didn't have to before :P