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Squirmmorning05:36
Kilosmorning all :-)06:24
=== HawkiesZA__ is now known as HawkiesZA
HawkiesZAMorning Kilos 06:38
Kiloshi Vince-0 06:56
Vince-0hi Kilos !06:57
Kiloshi morgs 07:14
morgsmorning07:14
Kilosmôre inetpro 07:51
Kilosmorning gwood 07:59
KilosHawkiesZA, are you familiar with 3g and network manager08:00
Kilosi just wanna check that the signal strength shown on nm shouldnt vary if one can see the tower should it?08:01
Kilosshows full strength on fone but on nm it is up and down here08:02
Kiloswanna fone and rev 8ta a bit , but dont want to seem too stupid08:03
HawkiesZANah, signal could vary on the modem but not on the phone08:06
Kilosaw08:07
Kilosso its then their equipment that sucks08:07
Kilosty08:07
HawkiesZAKilos, no, it's just the nature of 3G08:08
Kilosoh08:08
HawkiesZADoes the modem drop completely or is it just fluctuating?08:15
Kilosit shows normally 3 bars but latelt drops to 1 bar then i only get 1650 b/s08:29
Kiloslatest08:29
Kilosand opening links takes forever08:29
Kilosthats surely them clamping it?08:31
Kilosgot them on fone now08:36
SymmetriaKilos, check this: http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/cheetah.jpg08:57
Symmetria(yes, its 2.4 meg big, but that is such an awesome shot)08:58
Kiloslol Symmetria 08:59
Kilosyou gone camera mad08:59
Kilosjust busy with 8ta09:00
SymmetriaKilos lol you gotta admit though thats such an awesome shot09:00
Kilosthey opening a new case as the old one was closed09:00
Kilosgrrr09:00
Kilosyip Symmetria beautiful09:01
Kilosnow get 8ta to fix whatever they gotta fix09:01
Kilosyou shoulda called them and said smile for the shot09:05
Symmetrialol09:05
SymmetriaI got a few more of them actually cleaning each other but aint editted them yet and their res is so huge its not practical to put them online till I dot hat09:06
Kilostell me something first09:06
Kilosis there a way i can hassle my 8ta connection till it speeds up09:07
Kilosor hassles them so they fix it asap09:07
Kilosyou arent the network guru for nothing09:08
Kilosmorning superfly 09:08
superflyhi Kilos09:09
SymmetriaKilos09:09
Symmetria8ta is part of telkom09:09
Symmetriatherefore, its broken by nature09:09
Symmetriaand any fixing it would be defying the very laws of the universe09:09
Symmetria;p09:09
Kiloshahaha help me force them to fix it man09:10
Kilosit was good for a long time09:10
Kilosor i gotta start tweeting their CEO daily and i hate twitter09:11
trender(.)(.)09:43
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inetprogood morning Kilos, and everyone else09:44
Kiloslo inetpro 09:45
HawkiesZAMorning inetpro 09:49
inetpro02/05 11:09:31 <Symmetria> and any fixing it would be defying the very laws of the universe09:50
Kiloslol09:51
inetproMaaz: Symmetria ++ [fixing Telkom would be defying the laws of the universe]09:51
inetproit's a sad case09:52
Kiloswe just gotta tweet the ceo inetpro 09:53
inetproso much potential there yet so little effort that seems to be channeled in the direction to fix things up09:53
Kiloswill see now after this mornings fone call09:54
Kilosinetpro, its no good just sitting back and complaining , all 8ta peeps must let them selves be heard then only will something happen10:07
Kiloswhen waves get big you gotta jumps to keep head above water10:08
Kilosjump10:08
inetproKilos: my problems with 8ta are relatively minor10:08
Kilosits called rocking the boat10:08
Kilosspeed?10:08
Kilosthats my only prob now10:09
inetpromy speed is quite stable10:09
Kilosconnection does drop but speed sucks10:09
Kilosdoesnt10:09
Kilosstable at how much?10:09
inetproyes it slows down at times and yes sometimes I have connectivity issues but I can live with those at the price that we pay compared to other networks10:10
inetpromy 8ta connection is more stable than Vodacom10:11
Kilosmy only prob is the speed10:11
Kilosthere seems to be a connection prob between customer care and the technicians10:12
Kilosthis morning the data guys told me the case i was working on  had been closed10:12
Kilosbut the customer care peeps kept saying they are logging on it and reporting10:13
Kiloswbb going to kde10:25
Kiloshmm...10:29
inetproMaaz: ftp11:49
MaazDump FTP! http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp see also: FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie11:49
inetproMaaz: thanks11:50
Maazinetpro: Okay :-)11:50
* inetpro feels better now11:50
Vince-0surp durp11:59
Vince-0checking out Jaque Raymer's custom distro: http://www.makululinux.com/ - looks to be Ubuntu based11:59
Kiloshmm...13:03
Kilostrying to remastersys on kde today13:04
HawkiesZALooks like that's becoming System Imager13:16
HawkiesZAhttp://www.remastersys.com/13:17
HawkiesZADev sounds angry13:17
Kilosit works on ubuntu now we see the kde result13:31
Kilostakes a long time to make that custom dvd though13:39
Kilosactually the custom iso , burning the dvd is chop chop13:43
magespawnafternoon all13:48
HawkiesZAyo magespawn 13:50
magespawnwhat's up today?13:52
Kiloshi magespawn 13:52
magespawnhey Kilos13:52
Kilosyou win laddy?13:52
magespawnlooks like it13:53
Kilosyay what did you find?13:56
magespawnlooks like the one switch was getting overloaded and would drop the internet off, as it has the least amount of traffic13:58
magespawnbut we are still running the monitering software13:59
Kilosah13:59
Kilosin winsucks?14:00
Kilosshame14:00
magespawnno linux, i left a laptop plugged into their network14:00
tonberryE352burn the switch14:00
Kilosah14:01
magespawnthe switch is probably faulty, so yes tonberryE352, time for a new one14:01
Kilosinteresting to watch remastersys working, it does lotsa stuff14:13
Kilostempporarily copies /var and /etc to somwhere14:15
Kilosoh my, remaster sys did something to kde, boots to prompt and i forgot the command to start the gui16:31
Kilosdidnt do anything to unity16:31
Kiloswhen i use sudo service kdm start it says its already running16:32
Kilosgrrr16:32
magespawnKilos ping17:23
Cantidemagespawn pong17:23
Kilosmagespawn, pong17:24
Kiloshi Cantide 17:24
Cantidehello Kilos and magespawn :)17:24
magespawnhi Cantide17:24
Kilosyou supposed to great before chatting17:24
magespawnKilos: is it not startx?17:24
Kilosoh ya that sounds familiar ty magespawn 17:25
magespawnnp17:26
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Kiloslo Trixar_za 17:30
Trixar_zalo Kilos17:51
Kiloslo Trixar_za 17:51
Kiloswb Vince-0 17:53
Vince-0hey17:53
Vince-0bbl17:54
Kiloshehe17:54
=== Kanchi is now known as Cantide
inetprogood evening18:14
inetproKilos: did startx work?18:14
Kilosi still on unity inetpro 18:16
Kiloswb18:16
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* Squirm looks around18:45
Squirmhi18:46
Kiloshi Squirm y18:46
superflyI doubt startx will be of any help - kdm runs startx, in essence. it's more likely a problem with graphics card drivers18:52
Kilosive tried nvidia-173 reinstall but same thing superfly 18:53
Kilosand kdm18:53
superflyKilos: did you try purging nvidia-304 ?18:54
superflythen again, nvidia-173 should have removed 30418:54
Kilosnope where would that have got in?18:54
nuvolario/ hi oom Kilos 18:55
nuvolarilo superfly 18:55
Kilosi think once before i installed xorg and it came right but not sure anymore18:55
nuvolarilo Squirm , ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro18:55
Kiloslo nuvolari 18:55
superflyhi nuvolari18:56
superflynuvolari: Pyramid + Google App Engine = yummy18:56
nuvolarimeh, I'm off GAE for the time being. Boss can't make up his mind on using GAE or not18:59
superflynuvolari: I'm fiddling with a Python app for GAE18:59
superflythen I don't have to care about scalability18:59
=== CanAFK is now known as Cantide
nuvolariit is refreshing taking a break from JEE - GAE was fun!19:00
nuvolarihello Cantide 19:00
Cantidehello :)19:00
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Kilossuperfly, so what do i try if startx dont work19:09
superflyKilos: startx won't work19:09
Kilosuh oh19:09
superflyKilos: startx is an old command which should not be used unless you know why you're using it19:09
nuvolari*cough* I was under impression that it should, well, start X :P19:10
superflynuvolari: if you'd been keeping track of Kilos's conversation, you'd see why startx won't work19:10
nuvolarioh, sorry, not been keeping track19:11
Kilosdid remastersys kill it?19:11
superflyKilos: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?19:11
Kilossec lemme try find it19:11
superflyKilos: it's a file, not a command. You want to look for lines that start with "EE"19:12
superfly[    27.955] (EE) ...19:12
Kilosi can do that from this drive to that one cant i?19:12
superflyKilos: as long as you have the drive mounted, and you're looking at the right file19:13
Kilosok lemme try19:13
Kilosaw cant open it19:16
* inetpro taking an early nap19:17
inetprogood night everyone19:17
Kilosthere is /var/log/Xorg.1.log that i can open19:17
nuvolario/ night inetpro 19:17
Kilosnight inetpro 19:17
Kilossleep tight19:18
Kiloseek its massive19:19
Kilos(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)19:19
Kilosis that it superfly ?19:20
superflyKilos: that looks like one of them. is this on the other drive?19:20
superflyKilos: are you sure you're not looking at this hard drive?19:20
superflywhere's your other hard drive mounted?19:21
Kilosini went from home to it19:22
Kilosit shows on the launcher as mounted19:22
Kiloscalled 18g filesystem19:23
superflyOK. are there any other lines that start with EE ?19:27
Kilosthat might also be mavericks19:27
Kiloswhew three drives on one pc can bamfoozle one when there are probs19:28
Kiloseish internet even slow on slexy.org19:32
Kilossuperfly, im not getting even the short good one pasted to slexy19:39
Kilos and sukkeling to stay up here now. will remove maverick tomorrow and go from there. ty for the help19:40
superflyOK19:41
superflyKilos: that bit of an error message you showed me says that you don't have the nVidia drivers insdtalled19:42
Kilosi dunno why i installed nvidia-173 when i was logged in on the prompt19:43
Kilosbut actually i saw something funny too19:43
Kilossaw gdm somewhere ant that kde boots differently to others so maybe i installed gdm sometime19:44
Kilosi will try sudo gdm start there and see  if thats it19:44
Kilosbut tomorrow19:44
Kilosnight all sleep tight19:45
superflyKilos: do you have both gdm and kdm installed?19:45
superflyno wonder you're having issues!19:45
Kilosi dunno superfly 19:45
Kiloswill boot with only that drive in then i cant make mistakes19:45
Kiloshehe i do funny things when head crooked19:46
Kilosand it was running so lekker too19:46
Kilosnight19:46

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