[05:36] morning [06:24] morning all :-) === HawkiesZA__ is now known as HawkiesZA [06:38] Morning Kilos [06:56] hi Vince-0 [06:57] hi Kilos ! [07:14] hi morgs [07:14] morning [07:51] môre inetpro [07:59] morning gwood [08:00] HawkiesZA, are you familiar with 3g and network manager [08:01] i just wanna check that the signal strength shown on nm shouldnt vary if one can see the tower should it? [08:02] shows full strength on fone but on nm it is up and down here [08:03] wanna fone and rev 8ta a bit , but dont want to seem too stupid [08:06] Nah, signal could vary on the modem but not on the phone [08:07] aw [08:07] so its then their equipment that sucks [08:07] ty [08:08] Kilos, no, it's just the nature of 3G [08:08] oh [08:15] Does the modem drop completely or is it just fluctuating? [08:29] it shows normally 3 bars but latelt drops to 1 bar then i only get 1650 b/s [08:29] latest [08:29] and opening links takes forever [08:31] thats surely them clamping it? [08:36] got them on fone now [08:57] Kilos, check this: http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/cheetah.jpg [08:58] (yes, its 2.4 meg big, but that is such an awesome shot) [08:59] lol Symmetria [08:59] you gone camera mad [09:00] just busy with 8ta [09:00] Kilos lol you gotta admit though thats such an awesome shot [09:00] they opening a new case as the old one was closed [09:00] grrr [09:01] yip Symmetria beautiful [09:01] now get 8ta to fix whatever they gotta fix [09:05] you shoulda called them and said smile for the shot [09:05] lol [09:06] I got a few more of them actually cleaning each other but aint editted them yet and their res is so huge its not practical to put them online till I dot hat [09:06] tell me something first [09:07] is there a way i can hassle my 8ta connection till it speeds up [09:07] or hassles them so they fix it asap [09:08] you arent the network guru for nothing [09:08] morning superfly [09:09] hi Kilos [09:09] Kilos [09:09] 8ta is part of telkom [09:09] therefore, its broken by nature [09:09] and any fixing it would be defying the very laws of the universe [09:09] ;p [09:10] hahaha help me force them to fix it man [09:10] it was good for a long time [09:11] or i gotta start tweeting their CEO daily and i hate twitter [09:43] (.)(.) [09:43] __ [09:44] good morning Kilos, and everyone else [09:45] lo inetpro [09:49] Morning inetpro [09:50] 02/05 11:09:31 and any fixing it would be defying the very laws of the universe [09:51] lol [09:51] Maaz: Symmetria ++ [fixing Telkom would be defying the laws of the universe] [09:52] it's a sad case [09:53] we just gotta tweet the ceo inetpro [09:53] so much potential there yet so little effort that seems to be channeled in the direction to fix things up [09:54] will see now after this mornings fone call [10:07] inetpro, its no good just sitting back and complaining , all 8ta peeps must let them selves be heard then only will something happen [10:08] when waves get big you gotta jumps to keep head above water [10:08] jump [10:08] Kilos: my problems with 8ta are relatively minor [10:08] its called rocking the boat [10:08] speed? [10:09] thats my only prob now [10:09] my speed is quite stable [10:09] connection does drop but speed sucks [10:09] doesnt [10:09] stable at how much? [10:10] yes it slows down at times and yes sometimes I have connectivity issues but I can live with those at the price that we pay compared to other networks [10:11] my 8ta connection is more stable than Vodacom [10:11] my only prob is the speed [10:12] there seems to be a connection prob between customer care and the technicians [10:12] this morning the data guys told me the case i was working on had been closed [10:13] but the customer care peeps kept saying they are logging on it and reporting [10:25] wbb going to kde [10:29] hmm... [11:49] Maaz: ftp [11:49] Dump FTP! http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp see also: FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [11:50] Maaz: thanks [11:50] inetpro: Okay :-) [11:50] * inetpro feels better now [11:59] surp durp [11:59] checking out Jaque Raymer's custom distro: http://www.makululinux.com/ - looks to be Ubuntu based [13:03] hmm... [13:04] trying to remastersys on kde today [13:16] Looks like that's becoming System Imager [13:17] http://www.remastersys.com/ [13:17] Dev sounds angry [13:31] it works on ubuntu now we see the kde result [13:39] takes a long time to make that custom dvd though [13:43] actually the custom iso , burning the dvd is chop chop [13:48] afternoon all [13:50] yo magespawn [13:52] what's up today? [13:52] hi magespawn [13:52] hey Kilos [13:52] you win laddy? [13:53] looks like it [13:56] yay what did you find? [13:58] looks like the one switch was getting overloaded and would drop the internet off, as it has the least amount of traffic [13:59] but we are still running the monitering software [13:59] ah [14:00] in winsucks? [14:00] shame [14:00] no linux, i left a laptop plugged into their network [14:00] burn the switch [14:01] ah [14:01] the switch is probably faulty, so yes tonberryE352, time for a new one [14:13] interesting to watch remastersys working, it does lotsa stuff [14:15] tempporarily copies /var and /etc to somwhere [16:31] oh my, remaster sys did something to kde, boots to prompt and i forgot the command to start the gui [16:31] didnt do anything to unity [16:32] when i use sudo service kdm start it says its already running [16:32] grrr [17:23] Kilos ping [17:23] magespawn pong [17:24] magespawn, pong [17:24] hi Cantide [17:24] hello Kilos and magespawn :) [17:24] hi Cantide [17:24] you supposed to great before chatting [17:24] Kilos: is it not startx? [17:25] oh ya that sounds familiar ty magespawn [17:26] np === Trixar_zb is now known as Trixar_za [17:30] lo Trixar_za [17:51] lo Kilos [17:51] lo Trixar_za [17:53] wb Vince-0 [17:53] hey [17:54] bbl [17:54] hehe === Kanchi is now known as Cantide [18:14] good evening [18:14] Kilos: did startx work? [18:16] i still on unity inetpro [18:16] wb === Cantide is now known as CanAFK [18:45] * Squirm looks around [18:46] hi [18:46] hi Squirm y [18:52] I doubt startx will be of any help - kdm runs startx, in essence. it's more likely a problem with graphics card drivers [18:53] ive tried nvidia-173 reinstall but same thing superfly [18:53] and kdm [18:54] Kilos: did you try purging nvidia-304 ? [18:54] then again, nvidia-173 should have removed 304 [18:54] nope where would that have got in? [18:55] o/ hi oom Kilos [18:55] lo superfly [18:55] i think once before i installed xorg and it came right but not sure anymore [18:55] lo Squirm , ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro [18:55] lo nuvolari [18:56] hi nuvolari [18:56] nuvolari: Pyramid + Google App Engine = yummy [18:59] meh, I'm off GAE for the time being. Boss can't make up his mind on using GAE or not [18:59] nuvolari: I'm fiddling with a Python app for GAE [18:59] then I don't have to care about scalability === CanAFK is now known as Cantide [19:00] it is refreshing taking a break from JEE - GAE was fun! [19:00] hello Cantide [19:00] hello :) === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [19:09] superfly, so what do i try if startx dont work [19:09] Kilos: startx won't work [19:09] uh oh [19:09] Kilos: startx is an old command which should not be used unless you know why you're using it [19:10] *cough* I was under impression that it should, well, start X :P [19:10] nuvolari: if you'd been keeping track of Kilos's conversation, you'd see why startx won't work [19:11] oh, sorry, not been keeping track [19:11] did remastersys kill it? [19:11] Kilos: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? [19:11] sec lemme try find it [19:12] Kilos: it's a file, not a command. You want to look for lines that start with "EE" [19:12] [ 27.955] (EE) ... [19:12] i can do that from this drive to that one cant i? [19:13] Kilos: as long as you have the drive mounted, and you're looking at the right file [19:13] ok lemme try [19:16] aw cant open it [19:17] * inetpro taking an early nap [19:17] good night everyone [19:17] there is /var/log/Xorg.1.log that i can open [19:17] o/ night inetpro [19:17] night inetpro [19:18] sleep tight [19:19] eek its massive [19:19] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) [19:20] is that it superfly ? [19:20] Kilos: that looks like one of them. is this on the other drive? [19:20] Kilos: are you sure you're not looking at this hard drive? [19:21] where's your other hard drive mounted? [19:22] ini went from home to it [19:22] it shows on the launcher as mounted [19:23] called 18g filesystem [19:27] OK. are there any other lines that start with EE ? [19:27] that might also be mavericks [19:28] whew three drives on one pc can bamfoozle one when there are probs [19:32] eish internet even slow on slexy.org [19:39] superfly, im not getting even the short good one pasted to slexy [19:40] and sukkeling to stay up here now. will remove maverick tomorrow and go from there. ty for the help [19:41] OK [19:42] Kilos: that bit of an error message you showed me says that you don't have the nVidia drivers insdtalled [19:43] i dunno why i installed nvidia-173 when i was logged in on the prompt [19:43] but actually i saw something funny too [19:44] saw gdm somewhere ant that kde boots differently to others so maybe i installed gdm sometime [19:44] i will try sudo gdm start there and see if thats it [19:44] but tomorrow [19:45] night all sleep tight [19:45] Kilos: do you have both gdm and kdm installed? [19:45] no wonder you're having issues! [19:45] i dunno superfly [19:45] will boot with only that drive in then i cant make mistakes [19:46] hehe i do funny things when head crooked [19:46] and it was running so lekker too [19:46] night