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Noskcajcan i have a member cloak? my LP is launchpad.net/~noskcaj09:04
hggdhIRCC ^ can you please authorise an Ubuntu cloak for Noskcaj?13:19
Myrttiwell you know, he's not online13:21
snwhI was here before as well requesting one, https://launchpad.net/~snwh :)13:21
hggdhMyrtti: I know :-) but I did not see any response from the IRCC13:21
hggdhsnwh: BTW, thank you for all your help -- we appreciate it13:22
Myrttihggdh: the point being that if they're not online and identified to the services, there's little to confirm that they actually want it13:22
* Pici looks13:22
snwhhggdh, my pleasure :)13:23
PiciMyrtti: could you please grant snwh an ubuntu/member/snwh cloak?13:23
Myrttieven if IRCC approves, staff *might* not do it if they're not online and confirm personally.13:23
MyrttiPici: sure13:24
me4oslavok, I think I deserved my right to have one of those too :P13:24
Picisnwh: congrats :)13:24
Myrttithere we go!13:24
hggdhMyrtti: I understand that, and accept it. But it all starts with the council asking you folks for it ;-)13:24
snwhPici, thanks :)13:24
Picime4oslav: are you an Ubuntu Member?13:25
me4oslavPici: yup, became one yesterday13:25
hggdhPici: he is, approved by us yesterday13:25
me4oslavthe 2200 UTC elections yesterday13:25
Myrttihggdh: I would also hope IRCC would have the same diligence on granting the cloaks, though ;-)13:25
Picime4oslav: could you please share your launchpad id/profile page?13:25
hggdhMyrtti: :-)13:25
me4oslavPici: https://launchpad.net/~kokoto-java13:25
Picime4oslav: congrats on membership :)13:26
me4oslavPici: Thanks, man! =)13:26
PiciMyrtti: could you please grant me4oslav an ubuntu/member/me4oslav cloak?13:26
Myrttithere we go13:27
Piciwoo13:27
PiciMyrtti: thanks :)13:27
me4oslavlovely13:27
snwhsmashing :)13:28
Myrttimay I recommend SASL for you folks13:29
snwhThanks all13:29
Myrttiit works wonders for identifying before joining any channels13:29
me4oslavyup, it's really cute :313:29
Nafallo?14:14
Nafallojust set your nickserv password as server password and you're set?14:15
Nafalloi.e. happens while connecting to server, and definately before joining channels14:15
FuchsNafallo: we recommend http://freenode.net/sasl/14:15
FuchsNafallo: if your client can't do that: yes,  youraccount:yourpassword   (including the :) as server password should do. SASL works better though  (server password has a possible race condition)14:16
Fuchsonly your password works as well, but we do recommend   youraccountname:yourpassword    since then it will work from any nick14:16
Nafallohrm. okay... I've never had troubles with just using the server password though, and I've used it for years now :-)14:17
Fuchsit works most of the time14:17
NafalloI don't re-connect often enough ;-)14:17
Nafallokeep my irc box on ksplice updates and all that :-)14:17
FuchsSASL is just recommended over it, and the yourname: thingie is recommended if you, for some reason, can't/won't connect from your nick14:17
Nafallookay. good to know :-)14:18
Unit193I've known the SASL plugin for irssi to fail, so have both setup.14:19
PiciI've never had any issues with it myself.14:19
MyrttiI just set up a 75 random character password for myself.14:20
Myrttifun times.14:20
Nafallonow that I know the length it's easier to bruteforce ;-)14:21
Myrttiok, let's make it the maximum length then ;-)14:21
FuchsNafallo: indeed bruteforcing a staffer password is an awesome idea and I'd recommend it, you even get a chocolate cake for that!14:21
NafalloFuchs: heh, I wasn't being serious :-)14:22
FuchsNafallo: I think you were, hence I called the policy, FBI and CIA14:22
Fuchsbetter put the kettle on and start baking, for your visitors  :)14:22
Nafalloheh, they couldn't find me... not even my bank managed to find me. AFTER I gave them the address ;-)14:23
NafalloI've just moved countries, and I'm still waiting to get re-registered :-)14:23
FuchsI hope they have good cake and tea wherever you moved to *nods*14:23
Nafallobetter than where I moved from :-)14:24
Fuchsgood, good. Do continue, then.14:24
Nafallohehe14:24
Nafallohowever... me making a cake. not sure it's legal to poison FBI agents ;-)14:24
MyrttiNafallo: oo, no UK anymore?14:25
Nafallonope14:25
Nafalloeverything just got way too expensive.14:25
Nafalloand I didn't want to neglect my standards to get it cheaper :-)14:25
Nafalloso moved somewhere cheaper with higher standards ;-)14:26
Myrttihehe14:26
Myrttiso I see14:26
FuchsNafallo: mind me asking where that would be?14:26
FuchsI can see both, just not the combination14:26
NafalloFuchs: Sweden :-)14:26
Nafalloone of the best countries to live in in the world, according to a bunch of research ;-)14:26
FuchsSurprised by "cheaper", then. Anyway, enjoy. Lovely landscapes from what I've seen14:27
FuchsI am quite happy with Switzerland, but I am sure Sweden is nice as well14:27
Nafallocna get a 2 bed flat for ~£450 a month :-)14:27
Nafalloand that's middle of big cities14:27
Nafallothe annoying thing is that you have to be in a queue to actually get the places, since they haven't got enough flats for the people wanting to come here :-P14:28
Fuchswell, it probably depends on how much money you make whether this is good or not,14:28
Fuchse.g. in switzerland apartments are very expensive, but you also earn a lot of money14:28
Nafalloit's still good. I was sick of paying more than double that for a single room in London, with house-sharing ;-)14:28
Myrttiwell London is London.14:29
jpdsFuchs: s/apartments are/everything is/14:29
MyrttiLondon is always expensive.14:29
FuchsLondon hurts. I go to London in 3 weeks, and even the hotels are expensive as hell :(14:29
NafalloLondon kept putting up pricing on EVERYTHING.14:29
FuchsGlad I'll be close to Oxford most of the time, and only one night in London14:29
Fuchsjpds: most things, not everything14:29
jpdsFuchs: Exceptions being?14:30
Nafallothey even put up my mobile contract I signed a couple of years back :-/14:30
Fuchsjpds: petrol, as an example, is cheaper than in the neighbour countries.14:30
jpdsBlah, who needs petrol when you have SBB. ;-)14:30
FuchsI don't, I don't even have a car, only a GA. Just to mention an example.14:30
FuchsAlso today a car would have been nice.14:30
jpdsFuchs: GA is quite expensive.14:32
* jpds gets around with G7+1/2.14:33
Fuchsjpds: I still count as a student so I get the cheaper price until August, and I work for a former Staatsbetrieb, hence it is even more cheap14:33
Fuchsjpds: where do you live, if I may ask?  (also: sorry for the noise all, if you want us to move this, do tell)14:34
jpdsFuchs: Moving to /msg.14:34
remix_tjhi, anyone using PackageInfo plugin for supybot? i get a strange error14:53
remix_tjhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5629354/14:54
Nafallothat reminds me... jpds: ubot2 is still on some really old version for !info, and answers in here...15:09
Nafallo!info apt15:10
ubot2'maverick' is not a valid distribution:15:10
ubottuapt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 0.9.7.7ubuntu4 (raring), package size 1154 kB, installed size 3282 kB15:10
Nafallo^-- jpds: that :-P15:10
remix_tjfound the solution, i downloaded the latest version from brz of PackageInfo and returned working15:23
remix_tjmaybe was a too old version15:23
Noskcajcan i have a members cloak please? launchpad.net/~noskcaj21:34
Fuchsprobably. IRCC?21:35
Noskcaj?21:38
hggdhNoskcaj: the IRC council has to verify & ask the freenode staff to get it21:38
AlanBellevening all21:39
FuchsNoskcaj: sorry, hi, yes, what hggdh wrote21:39
Noskcajok21:39
AlanBellhi Noskcaj, lets have a see21:39
FuchsNoskcaj: AlanBell would be one of them, just hang on21:39
AlanBelllooks good to me, Fuchs can you apply an /ubuntu/member/noskcaj cloak please21:40
FuchsAlanBell: done21:40
FuchsNoskcaj: congratulations :)21:40
AlanBellthanks Fuchs21:40
AlanBellcongrats Noskcaj :)21:40
hggdhNoskcaj: welcome to the marvelous world of Ubuntu and cloaks21:40
Noskcajthank you21:41
* genii-around makes celebratory coffee21:46

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