[09:04] <Noskcaj> can i have a member cloak? my LP is launchpad.net/~noskcaj
[13:19] <hggdh> IRCC ^ can you please authorise an Ubuntu cloak for Noskcaj?
[13:21] <Myrtti> well you know, he's not online
[13:21] <snwh> I was here before as well requesting one, https://launchpad.net/~snwh :)
[13:21] <hggdh> Myrtti: I know :-) but I did not see any response from the IRCC
[13:22] <hggdh> snwh: BTW, thank you for all your help -- we appreciate it
[13:22] <Myrtti> hggdh: the point being that if they're not online and identified to the services, there's little to confirm that they actually want it
[13:22]  * Pici looks
[13:23] <snwh> hggdh, my pleasure :)
[13:23] <Pici> Myrtti: could you please grant snwh an ubuntu/member/snwh cloak?
[13:23] <Myrtti> even if IRCC approves, staff *might* not do it if they're not online and confirm personally.
[13:24] <Myrtti> Pici: sure
[13:24] <me4oslav> ok, I think I deserved my right to have one of those too :P
[13:24] <Pici> snwh: congrats :)
[13:24] <Myrtti> there we go!
[13:24] <hggdh> Myrtti: I understand that, and accept it. But it all starts with the council asking you folks for it ;-)
[13:24] <snwh> Pici, thanks :)
[13:25] <Pici> me4oslav: are you an Ubuntu Member?
[13:25] <me4oslav> Pici: yup, became one yesterday
[13:25] <hggdh> Pici: he is, approved by us yesterday
[13:25] <me4oslav> the 2200 UTC elections yesterday
[13:25] <Myrtti> hggdh: I would also hope IRCC would have the same diligence on granting the cloaks, though ;-)
[13:25] <Pici> me4oslav: could you please share your launchpad id/profile page?
[13:25] <hggdh> Myrtti: :-)
[13:25] <me4oslav> Pici: https://launchpad.net/~kokoto-java
[13:26] <Pici> me4oslav: congrats on membership :)
[13:26] <me4oslav> Pici: Thanks, man! =)
[13:26] <Pici> Myrtti: could you please grant me4oslav an ubuntu/member/me4oslav cloak?
[13:27] <Myrtti> there we go
[13:27] <Pici> woo
[13:27] <Pici> Myrtti: thanks :)
[13:27] <me4oslav> lovely
[13:28] <snwh> smashing :)
[13:29] <Myrtti> may I recommend SASL for you folks
[13:29] <snwh> Thanks all
[13:29] <Myrtti> it works wonders for identifying before joining any channels
[13:29] <me4oslav> yup, it's really cute :3
[14:14] <Nafallo> ?
[14:15] <Nafallo> just set your nickserv password as server password and you're set?
[14:15] <Nafallo> i.e. happens while connecting to server, and definately before joining channels
[14:15] <Fuchs> Nafallo: we recommend http://freenode.net/sasl/
[14:16] <Fuchs> Nafallo: if your client can't do that: yes,  youraccount:yourpassword   (including the :) as server password should do. SASL works better though  (server password has a possible race condition)
[14:16] <Fuchs> only your password works as well, but we do recommend   youraccountname:yourpassword    since then it will work from any nick
[14:17] <Nafallo> hrm. okay... I've never had troubles with just using the server password though, and I've used it for years now :-)
[14:17] <Fuchs> it works most of the time
[14:17] <Nafallo> I don't re-connect often enough ;-)
[14:17] <Nafallo> keep my irc box on ksplice updates and all that :-)
[14:17] <Fuchs> SASL is just recommended over it, and the yourname: thingie is recommended if you, for some reason, can't/won't connect from your nick
[14:18] <Nafallo> okay. good to know :-)
[14:19] <Unit193> I've known the SASL plugin for irssi to fail, so have both setup.
[14:19] <Pici> I've never had any issues with it myself.
[14:20] <Myrtti> I just set up a 75 random character password for myself.
[14:20] <Myrtti> fun times.
[14:21] <Nafallo> now that I know the length it's easier to bruteforce ;-)
[14:21] <Myrtti> ok, let's make it the maximum length then ;-)
[14:21] <Fuchs> Nafallo: indeed bruteforcing a staffer password is an awesome idea and I'd recommend it, you even get a chocolate cake for that!
[14:22] <Nafallo> Fuchs: heh, I wasn't being serious :-)
[14:22] <Fuchs> Nafallo: I think you were, hence I called the policy, FBI and CIA
[14:22] <Fuchs> better put the kettle on and start baking, for your visitors  :)
[14:23] <Nafallo> heh, they couldn't find me... not even my bank managed to find me. AFTER I gave them the address ;-)
[14:23] <Nafallo> I've just moved countries, and I'm still waiting to get re-registered :-)
[14:23] <Fuchs> I hope they have good cake and tea wherever you moved to *nods*
[14:24] <Nafallo> better than where I moved from :-)
[14:24] <Fuchs> good, good. Do continue, then.
[14:24] <Nafallo> hehe
[14:24] <Nafallo> however... me making a cake. not sure it's legal to poison FBI agents ;-)
[14:25] <Myrtti> Nafallo: oo, no UK anymore?
[14:25] <Nafallo> nope
[14:25] <Nafallo> everything just got way too expensive.
[14:25] <Nafallo> and I didn't want to neglect my standards to get it cheaper :-)
[14:26] <Nafallo> so moved somewhere cheaper with higher standards ;-)
[14:26] <Myrtti> hehe
[14:26] <Myrtti> so I see
[14:26] <Fuchs> Nafallo: mind me asking where that would be?
[14:26] <Fuchs> I can see both, just not the combination
[14:26] <Nafallo> Fuchs: Sweden :-)
[14:26] <Nafallo> one of the best countries to live in in the world, according to a bunch of research ;-)
[14:27] <Fuchs> Surprised by "cheaper", then. Anyway, enjoy. Lovely landscapes from what I've seen
[14:27] <Fuchs> I am quite happy with Switzerland, but I am sure Sweden is nice as well
[14:27] <Nafallo> cna get a 2 bed flat for ~£450 a month :-)
[14:27] <Nafallo> and that's middle of big cities
[14:28] <Nafallo> the annoying thing is that you have to be in a queue to actually get the places, since they haven't got enough flats for the people wanting to come here :-P
[14:28] <Fuchs> well, it probably depends on how much money you make whether this is good or not,
[14:28] <Fuchs> e.g. in switzerland apartments are very expensive, but you also earn a lot of money
[14:28] <Nafallo> it's still good. I was sick of paying more than double that for a single room in London, with house-sharing ;-)
[14:29] <Myrtti> well London is London.
[14:29] <jpds> Fuchs: s/apartments are/everything is/
[14:29] <Myrtti> London is always expensive.
[14:29] <Fuchs> London hurts. I go to London in 3 weeks, and even the hotels are expensive as hell :(
[14:29] <Nafallo> London kept putting up pricing on EVERYTHING.
[14:29] <Fuchs> Glad I'll be close to Oxford most of the time, and only one night in London
[14:29] <Fuchs> jpds: most things, not everything
[14:30] <jpds> Fuchs: Exceptions being?
[14:30] <Nafallo> they even put up my mobile contract I signed a couple of years back :-/
[14:30] <Fuchs> jpds: petrol, as an example, is cheaper than in the neighbour countries.
[14:30] <jpds> Blah, who needs petrol when you have SBB. ;-)
[14:30] <Fuchs> I don't, I don't even have a car, only a GA. Just to mention an example.
[14:30] <Fuchs> Also today a car would have been nice.
[14:32] <jpds> Fuchs: GA is quite expensive.
[14:33]  * jpds gets around with G7+1/2.
[14:33] <Fuchs> jpds: I still count as a student so I get the cheaper price until August, and I work for a former Staatsbetrieb, hence it is even more cheap
[14:34] <Fuchs> jpds: where do you live, if I may ask?  (also: sorry for the noise all, if you want us to move this, do tell)
[14:34] <jpds> Fuchs: Moving to /msg.
[14:53] <remix_tj> hi, anyone using PackageInfo plugin for supybot? i get a strange error
[14:54] <remix_tj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629354/
[15:09] <Nafallo> that reminds me... jpds: ubot2 is still on some really old version for !info, and answers in here...
[15:10] <Nafallo> !info apt
[15:10] <ubot2> 'maverick' is not a valid distribution:
[15:10] <Nafallo> ^-- jpds: that :-P
[15:23] <remix_tj> found the solution, i downloaded the latest version from brz of PackageInfo and returned working
[15:23] <remix_tj> maybe was a too old version
[21:34] <Noskcaj> can i have a members cloak please? launchpad.net/~noskcaj
[21:35] <Fuchs> probably. IRCC?
[21:38] <Noskcaj> ?
[21:38] <hggdh> Noskcaj: the IRC council has to verify & ask the freenode staff to get it
[21:39] <AlanBell> evening all
[21:39] <Fuchs> Noskcaj: sorry, hi, yes, what hggdh wrote
[21:39] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:39] <AlanBell> hi Noskcaj, lets have a see
[21:39] <Fuchs> Noskcaj: AlanBell would be one of them, just hang on
[21:40] <AlanBell> looks good to me, Fuchs can you apply an /ubuntu/member/noskcaj cloak please
[21:40] <Fuchs> AlanBell: done
[21:40] <Fuchs> Noskcaj: congratulations :)
[21:40] <AlanBell> thanks Fuchs
[21:40] <AlanBell> congrats Noskcaj :)
[21:40] <hggdh> Noskcaj: welcome to the marvelous world of Ubuntu and cloaks
[21:41] <Noskcaj> thank you
[21:46]  * genii-around makes celebratory coffee