[00:12] <popey> sergiusens: wassup?
[00:13] <Mirv> kenvandine: just noticed/remembered the file_access.patch - was there a bug report about it I could mention, since I apparently didn't include it yet in the packaging branch?
[00:13] <kenvandine> Mirv, no bug
[00:13] <kenvandine> just needed
[00:13] <Mirv> for a couple of days I had the feeling that I've the qtbase patches and the qtdeclarative patches, but I may be missing something :)
[00:14] <kenvandine> :)
[00:14] <Mirv> kenvandine: ok, I'll file one at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-opensource-src for this and then add it
[00:16] <Mirv> kenvandine: and umm it was a backport from 5.1 or something?
[00:16] <kenvandine> Mirv, no, i later found out that it is a backport from webkit
[00:16] <kenvandine> not qtwebkit
[00:16] <kenvandine> for the embedded version included
[00:17] <Mirv> interesting. I think it should be proposed then for qtwebkit upstream.
[00:17] <kenvandine> zaspire should forward it upstream
[00:18] <Mirv> ok, that'd be good
[00:22] <Mirv> it's good to end the day with four qtwebkit builds running, something for the machines to do during the night
[00:37] <bobweaver> Dang It I just upgraded and now volume is not working for QtMultimedia
[00:39] <Mirv> bobweaver: should you perhaps install the libqt5multimedia5-plugins as mentioned in the e-mail?
[00:39] <Mirv> I'm not sure what those plugins are used for, but there's the pulse plugin there so maybe it affects volume control
[00:39] <bobweaver> Reading state information... Done
[00:39] <bobweaver> E: Unable to locate package libqt5multimedia5-plugins
[00:39] <Mirv> so the plugin .so:s got separated into that own package by Debian
[00:40] <Mirv> bobweaver: ah, sorry, I thought you used the qt5-beta-proper PPA and tested updating to Qt 5.0.2, but apparently not
[00:40] <Mirv> since I noticed net_curli mentioned something about to you
[00:41] <Mirv> no need to test that PPA though if not specially wanting to test newer Qt. it will come into qt5-proper at some point.
[00:41] <bobweaver> er
[00:42] <bobweaver> sorry yeah I do use the proper ppa and yeah all things are install
[00:42] <bobweaver> qtmultimedia things that is
[00:43] <bobweaver> all dev stuff and it was all working right before upgrade. I thought that Upgrading would take care of the no seek in qtmultimedia but it did not
[00:43] <bobweaver> thanks though Mirv  I just think that I will try to reboot and pray :)
[00:44] <Mirv> hmm :P
[00:47] <bobweaver> Nah volume is gone now
[00:47]  * bobweaver slams hands on desk 
[01:54] <Randomness6894> hello
[01:55] <Randomness6894> Anyone know a cheap android phone that can run Ubuntu for Android
[01:57] <RobbyF> Randomness6894, what is cheap?
[01:57] <RobbyF> you can probably get a cheap galaxy nexus around $200~
[02:02] <Randomness6894> I was considering the Galaxy Nexus or the Nexus 4
[02:03] <Randomness6894> I might wait until the official Ubuntu Phone is released in Autumn-Winter
[02:04] <RobbyF> I'm think it will be closer to 1 year from right now
[02:05] <Randomness6894> Damn
[02:05] <Randomness6894> I am hearing some news about a SuperNexus and the Nexus 5
[02:06] <RobbyF> ya Google I/O is coming up.
[02:06] <Randomness6894> Hopefully Google will make enough Nexus 5s to sell
[02:07] <Randomness6894> I think by 2020 google will have enough control to control countries and governments
[02:07] <RobbyF> probably.
[02:08] <Randomness6894> I actually can't believe the amount of people here and it is only us speaking
[02:09] <Randomness6894> Hi shudo
[02:09] <RobbyF> I think they are in bed.
[02:10] <RobbyF> about 12 hours from now it gets chatty with developer talk
[02:10] <RobbyF> generally stuff I don't understand but try to follow to learn.
[03:34] <LokiOfVinheim> Yo. Just tried to install raring on my manta with the preinstalled images. Now I can't even power on
[03:34] <LokiOfVinheim> Halp plz? ;~;
[03:36] <LokiOfVinheim> I mean, I know, not supported, but if anyone knows of anything that can be done, I'd greatly appreciate it. Far as I know, there's nothing I can do. Reeeeally don't want to accept that TT_TT
[03:40] <LokiOfVinheim> >got Google splash screen; uh... nvm, looks like I have a chance to flash it back to stock ^_^; Then to try again from there
[05:12] <zezom> has any one been able to install on a TF300T?
[05:23] <jussi> woohoo, it works!
[05:26] <jussi> well... maybe it works...
[05:26] <jussi> it boots, but touch doesnt seem to be present :(
[05:39] <jussi> well then, perhaps it was just I had no idea how to unlock the thing :P (hint, nothing to do with the circle :P )
[09:01] <PPOS-BAR> hi,
[09:01] <PPOS-BAR> can we do screen capture on nexus7 and ubuntu touch ?
[12:03] <std> how far is the console app yet?
[14:09] <bobweaver> #ubuntu-tv
[14:09] <bobweaver> forgot the /join sorry
[16:18] <yoavst> Hi, am i able to use android application apps on ubuntu touch?
[16:19] <ogra_> no
[16:22] <yoavst> but ubuntu touch isnt just custom UI on CM 10.1?
[16:24] <Mirv> any "what changed in gcc 4.8" expert around? I'm getting qtbase build error https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138971540/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.qtbase-opensource-src_5.0.2%2Bdfsg1-3ubuntu1~saucy1~test1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:28] <ogra_> yodawg, nope, ubuntu touch only uses the android HAL layer to be able to use binary drivers for device access
[16:28] <ogra_> Mirv, try doko
[16:30] <Mirv> ogra_: thanks, pasting that link here magically increased my google skills and it seems Fedora may have cherry-picked a patch that could help
[16:30] <ogra_> haha
[16:45] <bouzomarcelo> hello everyone
[16:48] <bouzomarcelo> anyone has a atrix (mb860)
[16:49] <tsdgeos> t1mp_: ping
[16:49] <bouzomarcelo> anyone from argentina
[16:49] <t1mp_> tsdgeos: pong
[16:50] <tsdgeos> t1mp_: is the bug in the panel you mentioned yesterday fixed?
[16:50] <bouzomarcelo> anyone speak spanish?
[16:51] <tsdgeos> t1mp_: is it related anyhow to the panel closing itself when it shouldn't?
[16:52] <t1mp_> tsdgeos: all should be fixed
[16:52] <tsdgeos> t1mp_: ok
[16:53] <t1mp_> tsdgeos: if you use ubuntu-ui-toolkit r466+ and there are bugs, please report them
[16:54] <tsdgeos> i'm using 0.1.46daily13.05.02ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1
[16:54] <tsdgeos> no clue what that matches to
[16:55] <tsdgeos> it'd be cool to have a way of knowing :D
[16:55] <tsdgeos> didrocks: is there a way to find out to which bzr rev does qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin:armhf 0.1.46daily13.05.02ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1 match?
[17:00] <t1mp_> tsdgeos: apparently the current uitk in the phone has an older revision (but with a newer version number), so the bug is still there.
[17:00] <tsdgeos> oki
[17:00] <t1mp_> tsdgeos: that 0.1.46daily13.05.02 is an older revision than  0.1.46daily13.05.01ubuntu.unity.nextbzr467raring0
[17:01] <t1mp_> I don't know which revision :s
[17:01] <tsdgeos> :S
[17:01] <tsdgeos> i found it
[17:01] <tsdgeos> 0.1.46daily13.05.02ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1 is 462
[17:01] <tsdgeos> there's supposed to be a 0.1.46daily13.05.03ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1 with 467
[17:01] <tsdgeos> updating and upgrading in the phone
[17:01] <boiko> tsdgeos: out of curiosity, how did you find it?
[17:01] <boiko> tsdgeos: (the version, I mean)
[17:02] <tsdgeos> boiko: i went to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build-next/+packages?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
[17:02] <tsdgeos> clicked on the ubuntu-ui-toolkit - 0.1.46daily13.05.02ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1
[17:02] <tsdgeos> and found
[17:02] <boiko> tsdgeos: ah ok, thanks
[17:02] <tsdgeos>  [ Ubuntu daily release ]
[17:02] <tsdgeos>   * Automatic snapshot from revision 462 (ubuntu-unity/next)
[17:02] <tsdgeos> i'm hoping that's the "correct" thing :D
[17:03] <boiko> tsdgeos: should be
[17:03] <t1mp_> in 462 the toolbar is broken
[17:04] <tsdgeos> oka
[17:04] <t1mp_> the automatic hiding and locking is incorrect
[17:06] <tsdgeos> that's what i was seeing
[17:06] <tsdgeos> will ahve to review again toomrrow or later then
[17:06] <tsdgeos> thanks!
[17:18] <tsdgeos> t1mp_: i think i'm still something weird, want me to go downstairs and show you?
[17:27] <cyphermox> rsalveti: hey, I mentioned before about flashing straight from fastboot:
[17:27] <cyphermox> https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/phablet-tools/fastboot-flashing/+merge/162424
[17:27] <cyphermox> just changes the behavior of -b a bit
[17:29] <rsalveti> cyphermox: need to check that because I believe we tried this first, but had issues when coming from the default stock android image
[17:29] <rsalveti> you had to boot it at least once afaik
[17:29] <cyphermox> ah?
[17:29] <rsalveti> it works fine if the phone is already using our own image, but did you test after flashing a stock image?
[17:29] <cyphermox> seems weird given that on the phone you should be able to just reflash everything unconditionally, as long as you've unlocked the device
[17:29] <rsalveti> I don't remember the issue exactly, but I know we had a few so that's why -b is like that today
[17:30] <cyphermox> yeah, I flashed from a stock image on my nexus 4
[17:31] <cyphermox> I suspect it could possibly fail in some cases on the nexus 7, but maybe we could just also unconditionally format userdata to get rid of such issues
[17:31] <cyphermox> (or make that an option switch)
[17:32] <rsalveti> cyphermox: why the difference with 'df -h' and just 'df'?
[17:32] <rsalveti> right
[17:32] <cyphermox> well, df in android apparently does df -h :)
[17:33] <cyphermox> in recovery, it uses busybox, and to get the same output with G, M, etc. you need to explicitly do df -h
[17:33] <rsalveti> right
[17:34] <rsalveti> sergiusens: mind reviewing & testing https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/phablet-tools/fastboot-flashing/+merge/162424 as well?
[17:36] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ack
[17:36] <cyphermox> my only concern is the time between the boot recovery command and the recovery actually coming up, the delay seems to be good on the nexus 4 and nexus 7 so far, but maybe on other devices it's slower
[17:52] <fginther> popey, uqdb-qt does not build on armhf in the core-apps daily ppa due to qemu errors.  Is this a problem, or do we not care at the moment?
[17:57] <Casmo> Hmm, is there a list of what's working/not working for the Nexus 4? Because it's not listed in the list of devices (Which have the actual statusses)
[18:37] <mhall119|away> fginther: what qemu errors?
[18:37] <mhall119|away> are we using qemu for building armhf packages?
[18:39] <fginther> mhall119|away, these are when lp builds in the ppa: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138985321/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.u1db-qt_0.1.4bzr88raring0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:40] <mhall119|away> Casmo: the nexus 4 is one of the devices supported by the phablet-flash tool provided by Canonical, most stuff should work on it
[18:42] <mhall119|away> fginther: hmm, not a very descriptive error, eh
[18:43] <Casmo> mhall119|away, do you know if 3g works yet? :)
[18:43] <fginther>  mhall119|away, it's *usually* a qemu error. There are some projects that just don't build in qemu and that's usually what it looks like
[18:44] <mhall119|away> Casmo: I don't know, but calling and sms work I believe
[18:44] <mhall119|away> fginther: is qmlplugindump the executable that's segfaulting?
[18:44] <Casmo> Alright, thanks :) Time to install it, and see for myself. :D
[18:45] <Casmo> Gotta work in 45min though, let's hope I won't need that much time. :p
[18:50] <Casmo> Hmm, first boot takes quite a while. :P
[18:50] <fginther> mhall119|away, it's g++
[18:50] <fginther> mhall119|away, err I mean c++
[18:50] <mhall119|away> :/
[18:51] <mhall119|away> fginther: my guess is that it's not a big deal right now
[18:51] <mhall119|away> if it's qemu, should it work itself out, or do we need to do something?
[18:51] <fginther> mhall119|away, I've hopefully got a solution in progress, just need to corner the right people
[18:51] <fginther> mhall119|away, the solution is to build on hardware
[18:52] <fginther> mhall119|away, we've unfortunately had to implement this same solution for a number of other projects
[18:53] <Casmo> Heh.. Nexus 4 won't allow me to connect my usb as storage in recovery?
[18:55] <popey> hmm, i keep getting Not enough space in /data, found 3.9G
[18:55] <popey> when flashing my nexus 4
[18:57] <popey>  /data                    5.7G     1.8G     3.9G   4096
[20:43] <bobweaver> just got off work and get my phablet up to raring but now the keyboard wont work so I can not connect to wifi (can not enter in passwd) Is there a work around for this with adb ?
[20:44]  * bobweaver is having all sorts of troubles on phablet can not use touch and multimtdia is borked on desktop also now not sure what is up with that 
[21:13] <tsdgeos> Mirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/1176199
[21:46] <mardy> vrruiz_: the System Settings project is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings
[21:46] <mardy> vrruiz: ^
[22:01] <nik90> bobweaver: is there a way to read .csv files using qml alone?
[22:01] <nik90> bobweaver: I mean by not having to use a C++ plugin
[22:02] <bobweaver> use sqllight nik90
[22:03] <bobweaver> what are you doing ?
[22:04] <bobweaver> like you could import the .csv files (all js functions) then call them to read them in a model or whatever
[22:04] <bobweaver> just a idea ^^
[22:04] <bobweaver> nik90,  http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ImportingFiles
[22:05] <nik90> the .csv files have a list of countries with their timezone info
[22:06] <nik90> basically I will be reading the file to get a list of the countries and store them in a database and then show them using a qml ListModel view
[22:07] <nik90> @ bobweaver
[22:08] <bobweaver> nik90, you have looked at qt.formateDateTime ?
[22:09] <bobweaver> If you are just looking for that then one could just do some js math to figure all that out
[22:09] <nik90> bobweaver: I have looked at it briefly..but I need the list of all the cities with their timezone info
[22:09] <bobweaver> I see
[22:09] <nik90> bobweaver: like Amsterdam : UTC + 02:00
[22:09] <nik90> etc etc
[22:10] <bobweaver> how many tables ect ?
[22:11] <nik90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630536/
[22:11] <nik90> this is the contents of zone.csv file which we need to read
[22:11] <nik90> bobweaver: we are using the Online API at http://timezonedb.com/api
[22:12] <bobweaver> wait can you get xml from that ?
[22:12] <bobweaver> or json ?
[22:12] <nik90> bobweaver: the user chooses the city from the ListModel view (this model is populated by reading zone.csv) and then we use the online API where we send the city to get the timezone info
[22:12] <nik90> bobweaver: xml and json
[22:13] <bobweaver> nik90,  get the xml and run it in with xmllistmodel then you can push the data to sqllight
[22:13] <nik90> bobweaver: to get the xml, we need to send it the city name.
[22:13] <nik90> bobweaver: and the city name is chosen by the user from a list (which is populated from zone.csv)
[22:14] <bobweaver> then call in your functions from the table you can also use this like    if (1st time run [22:14] <bobweaver> you have looked at geo.citys ?
[22:14] <nik90> bobweaver: geo.citys? no
[22:15] <nik90> bobweaver: what is it?
[22:16] <bobweaver> nik90,  sorry http://api.geonames.org
[22:16] <bobweaver> that is name of api
[22:17] <bobweaver> nik90,  let me look at socs for both
[22:23] <bobweaver> nik90, api.geonames.org/ also needs lat :(
[22:23] <nik90> bobweaver: yeah I was looking through their webservices
[22:24] <nik90> bobweaver: they offer searching cities, countries by name..but I need the other way around..I need a list of cities to be available through xml which I can read and display in a list
[22:24] <nik90> bobweaver: http://www.mobilephonedevelopment.com/qt-qml-tips/#File%20Access
[22:25] <nik90> bobweaver: they say it is possible to use xmlHttpRequest to read file in qml
[22:25] <bobweaver> nik90,  yeah I tried to out do the radius but it errors out at radius=1000  http://api.geonames.org/timezone?lat=47.01&lng=10.2&radius=100&username=demo
[22:25] <nik90> bobweaver: do you think it will work?
[22:25] <bobweaver> nik90,  yeah useing a xmllistmodel
[22:25] <bobweaver> well I dont know what that says
[22:25] <bobweaver> you do not need to do all that you can just say
[22:26] <bobweaver> XMLListModel{source: YOUR.API  path  }   wait I will pastebin one
[22:26] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630570/
[22:27] <bobweaver> that is not the best example but well let me make it better
[22:27] <nik90> bobweaver: so for the xmllistmodel, I give it the local file name.  But unlike a traditional xml response, the zone.csv file does not have any headers...so how can I use query?
[22:28] <nik90> I have used xmllistmodel before and saw how you explained it during the tutorial session you gave on g+
[22:28] <bobweaver> it reads it over the net
[22:28] <bobweaver> so look at this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630573/
[22:28] <bobweaver> "http://api.geonames.org/weatherXML?north="+North+"&south="+South+"&east="+East+"&west="+West+"&username=bobweaver12345
[22:28] <bobweaver> that is the source that it is going to search (only when net is avilible )
[22:29] <bobweaver> you can put that in you browser
[22:29] <nik90> in my case I will replace source with the local file name?
[22:29] <bobweaver> it returns xml
[22:30] <bobweaver> well you can do it that way or you can grab online
[22:31] <nik90> true but we do not have any online source which provides a list of cities except for the zone.csv file I mentioned
[22:32] <bobweaver> well that can all be fixed :)
[22:32] <bobweaver> nik90,  take a look at http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick-xmllistmodel2-xmllistmodel.html
[22:32] <bobweaver> see the query
[22:33] <bobweaver> that is what you can query in the xml you can use x handeling or what ever it is called like wild cards and what not
[22:34] <bobweaver> http://www.w3schools.com/xpath/xpath_syntax.asp
[22:35] <bobweaver> that can be used in the query path of the xml
[22:35] <bobweaver> then you use roles (XMLRoles) to  to call latetr on or in model
[22:36] <nik90> so it doesnt matter that there are no nodes in my .csv file.
[22:36] <nik90> i can just use wildcards to get them
[22:37] <bobweaver> you can make js functions that say on if (XmlListModel.Ready [22:37] <bobweaver> why  csv if you can get back xml  ?
[22:39] <nik90> I am a little bit confused :D
[22:39] <nik90> really sorry
[22:41] <nik90> you keep referring to xml but my mind asks me which xml file? I have only a .csv file in possession to get the city names
[22:43] <bobweaver> nik90,  google hangout ?
[22:43] <nik90> bobweaver: yeah :)
[23:02] <sergiusens> rsalveti: still alive?
[23:02] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup
[23:02] <rsalveti> going downstairs
[23:02] <sergiusens> rsalveti: a couple of easy things for you... ok
[23:03] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I'll paste here in the meantime :-)
[23:03] <sergiusens> rsalveti: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/0001-Remove-cyanogenmod-specific-build-list-callout-to-th.patch
[23:03] <sergiusens> and
[23:03] <sergiusens> rsalveti: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/ap_patches/
[23:23] <Blekkarin> hellow all
[23:23] <Blekkarin> anyone here know how it will work on a xperia arc s?
[23:24] <Blekkarin> and if i recall right, no mobile network?
[23:25] <Blekkarin> please correct me i im wrong, and that i really hope that i am
[23:27] <Blekkarin> please correct me i im wrong, and that i really hope that i am?
[23:27] <Blekkarin> anyone active in this room?
[23:30] <D4rkSilver> Blekkarin: nope
[23:30] <Blekkarin> hehehe yea i can see that
[23:31] <Blekkarin> mind if i take some of your time D4rkSilver
[23:34] <D4rkSilver> Blekkarin: sure
[23:35] <D4rkSilver> Blekkarin: I don't have the answer to your question but if you are patient, I'm sure somedy here will answer at some point