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snap-lhttp://glossolaliarecords.bandcamp.com/album/zehn-schritte-in-richtung-der-leere00:47
snap-l"A new experimental, guitar-driven piece by the ever-productive K. Holte"00:47
snap-lI think I could play this, and I don't know guitar00:48
snap-lSomething tells me this was also "done in one take"00:49
snap-las though that is a badge of honor00:50
snap-lI'm sure it's also artisinal00:52
mathomastechBeen feeling like cr** all day. Tired but can't get any sleep. Decided to be somewhat productive so I am flashing multirom onto my N7 and installing Ubuntu.06:04
snap-lGood morning12:03
brouschyessir12:05
rick_h_howdy12:25
mathomastechmorning12:25
mathomastechrick_h_  Did you ever get awesome working in 13.04?12:47
rick_h_mathomastech: yea, found a bug that had a chack around12:48
rick_h_an no config file bork-ness so guess I'll be using it for the next 6mo :)12:48
mathomastechrick_h_: Cool. Was that in the link on your G+ post?12:50
rick_h_mathomastech: yep12:50
mathomastechrick_h_: Alright, thanks. Ill take a look at that tonight.12:51
jcastrosnap-l: craig12:52
jcastrocraig12:52
jcastrocraig12:52
rick_h_uh oh12:52
snap-lHello?13:24
snap-lHello?13:25
snap-lHello?13:25
snap-lHello?13:25
snap-ljcastro: ^^13:25
rick_h_snap-l: I'm going to go out on a limb and say check G+ snap-l13:25
snap-lGigantour13:26
jcastrosnap-l: gigantour13:27
snap-lHm, so one band I really like,13:27
snap-lone band I'm curious about (Newsted)13:27
snap-lOne band I can't stand (Black Label Society)13:28
snap-land two bands I haven't heard yet. (Device and Death Division)13:28
snap-lThat leaves Hellyeah, which... eh. :)13:28
snap-lWill need to think abou this.13:29
snap-lAnd no ticket prices13:30
jcastronewsted is ok13:42
jcastroone great song13:42
jcastro3 meh ones on the EP13:42
ColonelPanic0011/4 of slayer died :|14:10
ColonelPanic001At least it was something cool sounding, complications of a spider bite. They could write a song about it.14:10
brouschoooooo http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/05/03/1222220/barnes-noble-adds-google-play-store-to-the-nook14:16
snap-lbrousch: wait, what?15:11
brouschNooks have Google Play now15:12
brouschInstead of just their worthless B&N app store15:12
flipsidecreationMy hacked nook always has :)15:12
brouschflipsidecreation: Mine too, but that's not reall the point ;)15:12
snap-lI'll be uber pissed if it's just a HD update15:12
snap-lWell, it's just a HD update15:17
* brousch opens his umbrella to deflect the uber-piss15:25
snap-lheh15:25
snap-lHoping it's a temp oversight15:25
snap-lHonestly, I like the Nook eco system, but their app store is atrocious15:25
flipsidecreationI have the original nook color, its been good but I never used the nook ecosystem.  I hacked it an hour after I bought it15:33
brouschflipsidecreation: I have the same and used it stock for about a month15:43
brouschMy son still uses it with CM nearly every day15:43
flipsidecreationI am finally retiring my nook15:45
flipsidecreationSome games are just a bit too slow15:48
brouschI've upgraded to an Asus Transformer Infinity15:49
flipsidecreationI have the samsung Note 2 phone and a chinese tablet for the kids15:50
brouschThey can read Chinese?!15:52
flipsidecreationI hope they never have to...lol15:52
snap-lheh16:04
flipsidecreationI updated my laptop from 12.10 to 13.04.  Smoothest update ever.16:05
flipsidecreationgoing to do my office computer soon, hopefully 12.04 to 13.04 goes as smooth16:06
snap-lhttps://speakerdeck.com/nickbruun/lessons-learned-defying-joel-spolsky-with-django <- I'm sorry, but when you say ORMs are Stupid, you mean Django's bastardization of an ORM is stupid.17:01
brouschDjango ORM is the bizomb17:02
snap-lI hate it when people say "ORMs are stupid" and when pressed on which ORM, it's the one that has braindamage17:03
snap-lIt's like saying horseriding is stupid after riding the beginner horse at a stable.17:04
snap-lOr saying "Racing is stupid" after betting bored on lap three of a go-kart track17:08
snap-ls/betting/being.17:08
rick_h_notice he runs after saying how awesome django orm is before I get back18:41
jrwrendjango orm is not stupid.18:41
jrwrenoh.18:43
jrwrens/stupid/not mind readers.18:43
jrwrenyes, no shit, ORM are not mind readers.  ffs, know what they are doing.18:43
jrwrensame old shit, just said in the same old harsh way.18:43
rick_h_yea, but still...if your idea of an ORM is Django, or rails AR, then you are not qualified to speak about ORMS as a whole18:44
jrwrenbullshit.18:44
jrwrenrails AR or any AR18:44
rick_h_"I used django, they had a module named ORM, therefore ORMs suck because it wasn't as good as raw SQL when I typed this..."18:44
jrwrendjango orm is a data mapper impl.18:45
rick_h_hate seeing that crap18:45
jrwrenyes, I hate seeing that crap too.18:45
jrwrenthat is what I mean.18:45
jrwreni hate ORM abuse too.18:45
jrwrenso stop the abuse!18:45
jrwreni'd love to see it profiled without abusing the orm.18:45
rick_h_jrwren: oh come as, as far as ORMs go, the django ORM is a mountain of pita.18:46
jrwrenthat said, at the volume they claim, orm is probably not the right choice.18:46
rick_h_jrwren: does it support combo pkey yet?18:46
jrwrenrick_h_: hahaha, you haven't used a lot of the .net orm18:46
rick_h_jrwren: my understanding was that they had a hibernate rip-off that was decent?18:46
jrwrennhibernate is far from decent18:47
jrwrenalthough its probably 1000X faster than python :)18:47
jrwreni like the 91ms -> 29ms ->20ms jinja2 claim. that is cool.18:47
rick_h_yea, armin and mike have had a lot of back/forth on perf with jinja2 and mako18:48
jrwrensounds like it might have been a good talk, with annoying slides :)18:48
rick_h_speed is equiv, just pick if you want lots of plugins to write or just write python18:48
rick_h_bwuhahaha, more usb3 ports. hub arrived19:43
snap-lrick_h_: Yeah, I knew that would be a hot button for you. :)19:50
rick_h_yea, well have 2 usb3 external drives and 2 usb3 thumb drives19:54
rick_h_but only one port on the laptop and even the desktop only comes iwth 2, none on the front of it19:54
rick_h_moar usb3 ports!19:55
snap-lI meant the Django ORM. ;)19:57
rick_h_snap-l: oh, gotcha19:58
rick_h_yea, brousch ran away from my django ORM rant :p19:58
snap-lHeh19:58
brousch:P19:58
brouschWe had to shut down all the power to replace a window19:58
* rick_h_ is trying to think that one through. 20:00
snap-lUm...20:05
snap-lAlarm system?20:05
snap-lotherwise I got nothin20:06
brouschIt was right below the power cables going into the building20:10
brouschI'm doing a ginormous update of my Django work application right now20:10
snap-l just chuckled at the tought of Westboro Baptist Church pickleting Jeff Hanneman's funeral20:35
snap-lWow, i can type.20:35
snap-lhttp://garywarnett.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/slayerselfharm.jpg20:36
snap-lThis will not end well20:36
greg-ga legit looking tattoo is in that mix, which seems stupid20:37
_stink_something about that jpg seems stupid?20:38
snap-lgreg-g: Blame the person who compiled those images20:38
snap-lhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Dp8j9Gw8Tvk/TxYSaYUJQHI/AAAAAAAABgk/3hc-u3tbVlk/s1600/slayer+carving.jpg20:39
snap-lhttp://www.carveslayer.com/20:39
greg-gthis fucking peice of shit dell20:53
greg-gnow the battery is not charging past 30%20:53
snap-lSounds like it's time to invoke the lemon law20:53
greg-gjcastro: rick_h_ tell mark to quit the deal with dell, they're fucking shit up20:53
greg-gwhy not choose a vendor that does linux decently, like lenovo20:54
brouschsystem76!20:54
greg-gnot a fan of their built quality, they use the same barebones supplier that dell does20:54
greg-gs/t/d/20:54
snap-lgreg-g: Probably because Dell is in the business of selling machines, and they likely approached Canonical20:55
* greg-g stops self from ranting any more20:55
jcastrogreg-g: unfortunately all the lenovo stuff is non-US.20:58
jcastroI feel your pain20:58
greg-gand our stupid IT department is like "the wifi antennas in the lenovos don't get as good of a signal as the dells, so we're only buying these shitty macbook air knockoffs from dell now. enjoy!"20:59
* greg-g failed at stopping himself20:59
jcastrohah that sucks20:59
jcastrosnap-l: so, the lineup for gigantour. THAT is what it's supposed to look like21:00
jcastronot this orion stuff21:00
snap-lMeh, there's some good bands on Orion as well21:13
rick_h_greg-g: :(23:51
rick_h_jcastro: I have that same water system23:55
jcastroyeah fuck that thing23:55
rick_h_yea, I'm tempted to get the rain sensor gauge for it but didn't want to spend another hundreds on top of it23:56

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