[00:47] <snap-l> http://glossolaliarecords.bandcamp.com/album/zehn-schritte-in-richtung-der-leere
[00:47] <snap-l> "A new experimental, guitar-driven piece by the ever-productive K. Holte"
[00:48] <snap-l> I think I could play this, and I don't know guitar
[00:49] <snap-l> Something tells me this was also "done in one take"
[00:50] <snap-l> as though that is a badge of honor
[00:52] <snap-l> I'm sure it's also artisinal
[06:04] <mathomastech> Been feeling like cr** all day. Tired but can't get any sleep. Decided to be somewhat productive so I am flashing multirom onto my N7 and installing Ubuntu.
[12:03] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:05] <brousch> yessir
[12:25] <rick_h_> howdy
[12:25] <mathomastech> morning
[12:47] <mathomastech> rick_h_  Did you ever get awesome working in 13.04?
[12:48] <rick_h_> mathomastech: yea, found a bug that had a chack around
[12:48] <rick_h_> an no config file bork-ness so guess I'll be using it for the next 6mo :)
[12:50] <mathomastech> rick_h_: Cool. Was that in the link on your G+ post?
[12:50] <rick_h_> mathomastech: yep
[12:51] <mathomastech> rick_h_: Alright, thanks. Ill take a look at that tonight.
[12:52] <jcastro> snap-l: craig
[12:52] <jcastro> craig
[12:52] <jcastro> craig
[12:52] <rick_h_> uh oh
[13:24] <snap-l> Hello?
[13:25] <snap-l> Hello?
[13:25] <snap-l> Hello?
[13:25] <snap-l> Hello?
[13:25] <snap-l> jcastro: ^^
[13:25] <rick_h_> snap-l: I'm going to go out on a limb and say check G+ snap-l
[13:26] <snap-l> Gigantour
[13:27] <jcastro> snap-l: gigantour
[13:27] <snap-l> Hm, so one band I really like,
[13:27] <snap-l> one band I'm curious about (Newsted)
[13:28] <snap-l> One band I can't stand (Black Label Society)
[13:28] <snap-l> and two bands I haven't heard yet. (Device and Death Division)
[13:28] <snap-l> That leaves Hellyeah, which... eh. :)
[13:29] <snap-l> Will need to think abou this.
[13:30] <snap-l> And no ticket prices
[13:42] <jcastro> newsted is ok
[13:42] <jcastro> one great song
[13:42] <jcastro> 3 meh ones on the EP
[14:10] <ColonelPanic001> 1/4 of slayer died :|
[14:10] <ColonelPanic001> At least it was something cool sounding, complications of a spider bite. They could write a song about it.
[14:16] <brousch> oooooo http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/05/03/1222220/barnes-noble-adds-google-play-store-to-the-nook
[15:11] <snap-l> brousch: wait, what?
[15:12] <brousch> Nooks have Google Play now
[15:12] <brousch> Instead of just their worthless B&N app store
[15:12] <flipsidecreation> My hacked nook always has :)
[15:12] <brousch> flipsidecreation: Mine too, but that's not reall the point ;)
[15:12] <snap-l> I'll be uber pissed if it's just a HD update
[15:17] <snap-l> Well, it's just a HD update
[15:25]  * brousch opens his umbrella to deflect the uber-piss
[15:25] <snap-l> heh
[15:25] <snap-l> Hoping it's a temp oversight
[15:25] <snap-l> Honestly, I like the Nook eco system, but their app store is atrocious
[15:33] <flipsidecreation> I have the original nook color, its been good but I never used the nook ecosystem.  I hacked it an hour after I bought it
[15:43] <brousch> flipsidecreation: I have the same and used it stock for about a month
[15:43] <brousch> My son still uses it with CM nearly every day
[15:45] <flipsidecreation> I am finally retiring my nook
[15:48] <flipsidecreation> Some games are just a bit too slow
[15:49] <brousch> I've upgraded to an Asus Transformer Infinity
[15:50] <flipsidecreation> I have the samsung Note 2 phone and a chinese tablet for the kids
[15:52] <brousch> They can read Chinese?!
[15:52] <flipsidecreation> I hope they never have to...lol
[16:04] <snap-l> heh
[16:05] <flipsidecreation> I updated my laptop from 12.10 to 13.04.  Smoothest update ever.
[16:06] <flipsidecreation> going to do my office computer soon, hopefully 12.04 to 13.04 goes as smooth
[17:01] <snap-l> https://speakerdeck.com/nickbruun/lessons-learned-defying-joel-spolsky-with-django <- I'm sorry, but when you say ORMs are Stupid, you mean Django's bastardization of an ORM is stupid.
[17:02] <brousch> Django ORM is the bizomb
[17:03] <snap-l> I hate it when people say "ORMs are stupid" and when pressed on which ORM, it's the one that has braindamage
[17:04] <snap-l> It's like saying horseriding is stupid after riding the beginner horse at a stable.
[17:08] <snap-l> Or saying "Racing is stupid" after betting bored on lap three of a go-kart track
[17:08] <snap-l> s/betting/being.
[18:41] <rick_h_> notice he runs after saying how awesome django orm is before I get back
[18:41] <jrwren> django orm is not stupid.
[18:43] <jrwren> oh.
[18:43] <jrwren> s/stupid/not mind readers.
[18:43] <jrwren> yes, no shit, ORM are not mind readers.  ffs, know what they are doing.
[18:43] <jrwren> same old shit, just said in the same old harsh way.
[18:44] <rick_h_> yea, but still...if your idea of an ORM is Django, or rails AR, then you are not qualified to speak about ORMS as a whole
[18:44] <jrwren> bullshit.
[18:44] <jrwren> rails AR or any AR
[18:44] <rick_h_> "I used django, they had a module named ORM, therefore ORMs suck because it wasn't as good as raw SQL when I typed this..."
[18:45] <jrwren> django orm is a data mapper impl.
[18:45] <rick_h_> hate seeing that crap
[18:45] <jrwren> yes, I hate seeing that crap too.
[18:45] <jrwren> that is what I mean.
[18:45] <jrwren> i hate ORM abuse too.
[18:45] <jrwren> so stop the abuse!
[18:45] <jrwren> i'd love to see it profiled without abusing the orm.
[18:46] <rick_h_> jrwren: oh come as, as far as ORMs go, the django ORM is a mountain of pita.
[18:46] <jrwren> that said, at the volume they claim, orm is probably not the right choice.
[18:46] <rick_h_> jrwren: does it support combo pkey yet?
[18:46] <jrwren> rick_h_: hahaha, you haven't used a lot of the .net orm
[18:46] <rick_h_> jrwren: my understanding was that they had a hibernate rip-off that was decent?
[18:47] <jrwren> nhibernate is far from decent
[18:47] <jrwren> although its probably 1000X faster than python :)
[18:47] <jrwren> i like the 91ms -> 29ms ->20ms jinja2 claim. that is cool.
[18:48] <rick_h_> yea, armin and mike have had a lot of back/forth on perf with jinja2 and mako
[18:48] <jrwren> sounds like it might have been a good talk, with annoying slides :)
[18:48] <rick_h_> speed is equiv, just pick if you want lots of plugins to write or just write python
[19:43] <rick_h_> bwuhahaha, more usb3 ports. hub arrived
[19:50] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, I knew that would be a hot button for you. :)
[19:54] <rick_h_> yea, well have 2 usb3 external drives and 2 usb3 thumb drives
[19:54] <rick_h_> but only one port on the laptop and even the desktop only comes iwth 2, none on the front of it
[19:55] <rick_h_> moar usb3 ports!
[19:57] <snap-l> I meant the Django ORM. ;)
[19:58] <rick_h_> snap-l: oh, gotcha
[19:58] <rick_h_> yea, brousch ran away from my django ORM rant :p
[19:58] <snap-l> Heh
[19:58] <brousch> :P
[19:58] <brousch> We had to shut down all the power to replace a window
[20:00]  * rick_h_ is trying to think that one through. 
[20:05] <snap-l> Um...
[20:05] <snap-l> Alarm system?
[20:06] <snap-l> otherwise I got nothin
[20:10] <brousch> It was right below the power cables going into the building
[20:10] <brousch> I'm doing a ginormous update of my Django work application right now
[20:35] <snap-l>  just chuckled at the tought of Westboro Baptist Church pickleting Jeff Hanneman's funeral
[20:35] <snap-l> Wow, i can type.
[20:36] <snap-l> http://garywarnett.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/slayerselfharm.jpg
[20:36] <snap-l> This will not end well
[20:37] <greg-g> a legit looking tattoo is in that mix, which seems stupid
[20:38] <_stink_> something about that jpg seems stupid?
[20:38] <snap-l> greg-g: Blame the person who compiled those images
[20:39] <snap-l> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Dp8j9Gw8Tvk/TxYSaYUJQHI/AAAAAAAABgk/3hc-u3tbVlk/s1600/slayer+carving.jpg
[20:39] <snap-l> http://www.carveslayer.com/
[20:53] <greg-g> this fucking peice of shit dell
[20:53] <greg-g> now the battery is not charging past 30%
[20:53] <snap-l> Sounds like it's time to invoke the lemon law
[20:53] <greg-g> jcastro: rick_h_ tell mark to quit the deal with dell, they're fucking shit up
[20:54] <greg-g> why not choose a vendor that does linux decently, like lenovo
[20:54] <brousch> system76!
[20:54] <greg-g> not a fan of their built quality, they use the same barebones supplier that dell does
[20:54] <greg-g> s/t/d/
[20:55] <snap-l> greg-g: Probably because Dell is in the business of selling machines, and they likely approached Canonical
[20:55]  * greg-g stops self from ranting any more
[20:58] <jcastro> greg-g: unfortunately all the lenovo stuff is non-US.
[20:58] <jcastro> I feel your pain
[20:59] <greg-g> and our stupid IT department is like "the wifi antennas in the lenovos don't get as good of a signal as the dells, so we're only buying these shitty macbook air knockoffs from dell now. enjoy!"
[20:59]  * greg-g failed at stopping himself
[20:59] <jcastro> hah that sucks
[21:00] <jcastro> snap-l: so, the lineup for gigantour. THAT is what it's supposed to look like
[21:00] <jcastro> not this orion stuff
[21:13] <snap-l> Meh, there's some good bands on Orion as well
[23:51] <rick_h_> greg-g: :(
[23:55] <rick_h_> jcastro: I have that same water system
[23:55] <jcastro> yeah fuck that thing
[23:56] <rick_h_> yea, I'm tempted to get the rain sensor gauge for it but didn't want to spend another hundreds on top of it