| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| kbmonkey_ | morning | 05:23 |
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| === kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey | ||
| Squirm | morning | 05:39 |
| Trixar_za | Morning Squirm | 05:41 |
| === Kilos is now known as squ | ||
| squ | oh my | 05:42 |
| === squ is now known as Kilos | ||
| === Kilos is now known as squ | ||
| === squ is now known as Kilos | ||
| Kilos | morning Trixar_za Squirm | 05:43 |
| Kilos | wbb | 05:44 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| superfly | ohi | 06:59 |
| Kilos | hi superhow are you feeling today | 07:06 |
| Kilos | ? | 07:06 |
| Kilos | ive fixed my kubuntu. ty for reminding about the purge thingie | 07:07 |
| Kilos | purged all i could find on nvidia kdm xserver xorg then installed xserver xorg kdm and everything worked again, even startx | 07:08 |
| Kilos | now installed nvidia-current so all good | 07:09 |
| Kilos | that gdm i saw musta been in maverick because i tried to purge it too but not found hehe | 07:10 |
| Kilos | hi morgs | 07:10 |
| morgs | Morning Kilos and * | 07:11 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:17 |
| Vince-0 | heo | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning peeps | 07:19 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:20 |
| Kilos | oh my i read back and got a superhow not superfly | 07:22 |
| Kilos | sorry konversation does differnt things to xchat | 07:23 |
| Kilos | different | 07:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: glad you came right Kilos | 07:26 |
| Kilos | ty | 07:26 |
| Kilos | thats all i see funny now | 07:27 |
| Kilos | only here it also says /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpoppler.so.19 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start | 07:28 |
| Kilos | whatever that might mean | 07:28 |
| zeref | hey guys | 07:29 |
| Kilos | will have to get harry potter to come fix that cause i dunno magic stuff | 07:29 |
| Kilos | hi zeref | 07:29 |
| inetpro | good morning | 07:30 |
| inetpro | oh and good morning Kilos | 07:30 |
| Kilos | hello goosie | 07:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:30 |
| * inetpro is baie boos | 07:30 | |
| Kilos | still cheeky i see | 07:30 |
| Kilos | hoekom? | 07:30 |
| inetpro | that monkey | 07:30 |
| * Kilos forgets boos | 07:30 | |
| inetpro | killed another 5 chickens | 07:30 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:31 |
| inetpro | this time he got inside the closed coup | 07:31 |
| Kilos | you havent got sleeping pills yet?? | 07:31 |
| Kilos | hey | 07:31 |
| inetpro | looks like he killed for the fun | 07:31 |
| Kilos | eish | 07:31 |
| inetpro | took one of them out into the tree | 07:31 |
| zeref | I've got a program that uses sqlite, is it better to open the db connection at the start ot the program and close the connection when I close the connection, or open close conneciton per sql query? | 07:32 |
| Kilos | idoesnt it open on its own | 07:38 |
| Kilos | i know ibid uses sqlite and does its own work with it | 07:38 |
| charl | good morning | 07:46 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:46 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 07:46 | |
| charl | apparently i was right to not upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 and the linux 3.8 kernel | 07:47 |
| charl | i would have had problems: http://mergy.org/2013/03/three-tips-to-get-vmware-workstation-9-going-on-kernel-3-8-0/ | 07:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz: coffee please | 07:48 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Yessir | 07:48 |
| Kilos | ai! charl ya lucky | 07:49 |
| charl | nah just careful :) | 07:50 |
| Kilos | i always try new releases on a spare drive first | 07:50 |
| charl | that's a good idea | 07:50 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! | 07:50 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 07:50 |
| Maaz | charl: No problem | 07:50 |
| Kilos | lol but 13.04 looked good here | 07:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz: dankie | 07:51 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier Kilos my vriend | 07:51 |
| charl | lol | 07:51 |
| Kilos | only too much eye candy with unity | 07:51 |
| Kilos | made for modern pc's methinks | 07:52 |
| Kilos | fast with lotsa ram | 07:52 |
| trender | (.)(.) | 07:55 |
| trender | _ | 07:55 |
| superfly | zeref: always hold the connection open for as long as possible | 07:56 |
| trender | mornin | 07:57 |
| Kilos | hi trender | 07:57 |
| trender | yo dude | 07:57 |
| magespawn | good morning all | 08:02 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 08:03 |
| Kilos | fixed kde | 08:04 |
| Kilos | yay | 08:04 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 08:04 |
| Kilos | but something is lying to me | 08:04 |
| charl | guten morgen meine leute | 08:04 |
| Kilos | remastersys says the iso is saved at /home/remastersys/remastersys/custom-backup.iso | 08:05 |
| Kilos | but i cant find it anywhere | 08:05 |
| Kilos | and its 3.8 gig so woulda made a lekker live dvd | 08:07 |
| magespawn | hey charl | 08:10 |
| magespawn | Kilos: you still there? | 09:20 |
| Kilos | yessir | 09:20 |
| Kilos | i dont split | 09:20 |
| magespawn | man the power is like a yo yo here today | 09:20 |
| Kilos | aw | 09:20 |
| Kilos | oh my 8ta speed hit 275 KiB/s | 09:37 |
| Kilos | 293.5 | 09:38 |
| Kilos | yay | 09:38 |
| magespawn | cool Kilos, wonder what they did to change it? | 09:40 |
| Kilos | they just gotta make sure everything is as it should be | 09:41 |
| Kilos | maintenance | 09:41 |
| magespawn | sad that they wait till somebody kicks up a fuss before doing something | 09:42 |
| Kilos | i think they just need a bit of pushing now and again magespawn | 09:43 |
| Kilos | yeah but thats human nature | 09:43 |
| Kilos | dont do today what you can leave till tomorrow | 09:43 |
| Kilos | modern human nature that is | 09:43 |
| magespawn | i try to stay away from that sort of behaviour | 09:45 |
| Kilos | yeah bad news | 09:47 |
| Kilos | old was was other way around | 09:47 |
| Kilos | you see the thing is they still get paid if they work hard or slack so why worry | 09:48 |
| magespawn | indeed, i need to find a job like that for myself | 10:14 |
| magespawn | then i can play with my computer all day long | 10:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:16 |
| Kilos | funny hey magespawn they told me they had upgraded this tower to 12 meg | 10:45 |
| Kilos | 12 meg is nothing | 10:45 |
| magespawn | maybe they made a mistake | 10:46 |
| Kilos | ? | 10:49 |
| Kilos | maybe its something in the tower that had maybe 6 meg before | 10:49 |
| tonberryE352 | mbit/s of data uplink perhaps? | 10:52 |
| Kilos | ? | 10:54 |
| tonberryE352 | maybe they gave the tower a faster internet connection | 10:55 |
| Kilos | i really dont know but since they did the upgrade my connection sucked | 10:57 |
| Kilos | only now its getting better again | 10:58 |
| Kilos | well http://speedtest.mybroadband.co.za/ shows its 1 mb/s faster than yesterday | 11:08 |
| Kilos | but nm still showing only 2 bars | 11:09 |
| Kilos | maybe a coupla more fone calls can boost that too | 11:13 |
| Kilos | wb drussell | 11:13 |
| charl | wow that speed test service on mybroadband.co.za is terribly slow, even the international one | 11:40 |
| Kilos | hi jma | 11:41 |
| Kilos | grrr | 11:41 |
| charl | it's interesting to watch http://www.ookla.com/ and see where speed tests are being performed in real time | 11:43 |
| Kilos | my speed shows as 2.34mb/s | 11:44 |
| Kilos | was down to 1.2 | 11:44 |
| charl | i keep the map open for a while and you start seeing the best connected countries in orange | 11:44 |
| charl | i am surprised at how well europe is doing compared to north america | 11:45 |
| charl | the "last 24 hours" option ia also interesting | 11:47 |
| charl | i'm off, have a good weekend all! | 12:10 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn you still here? | 13:56 |
| magespawn | yup | 14:02 |
| magespawn | busy getting some software | 14:02 |
| Kilos | i just wanted support to try remastersys on kde again | 14:10 |
| Kilos | if i crash them you to blame | 14:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:10 |
| Kilos | worked so lekker on unity, i dunno what could be wrong | 14:10 |
| magespawn | i have never used remastersys | 14:12 |
| Kilos | it make a full system backup on a dvd | 14:13 |
| Kilos | makes and installable iso | 14:13 |
| Kilos | i tried it when maverick was young but didnt have a dvdwriter yet so gave up | 14:14 |
| Kilos | cd is always too small for a working ubntu\ | 14:15 |
| Kilos | ubuntu | 14:15 |
| Kilos | but now im bang it crashes my kde again | 14:15 |
| magespawn | do you know what happened last time? | 14:16 |
| Kilos | the xserver and xorg an nvidia stuff stopped working | 14:17 |
| Kilos | was a major purge operation and renstall of them | 14:18 |
| Kilos | but luckily with the nm script it goes online before gui starts | 14:18 |
| Kilos | so its like working on a server | 14:19 |
| Kilos | remastersys runs as root methinks so can get in everywhere | 14:20 |
| magespawn | why did they stop working? any idea? | 14:45 |
| magespawn | sorry for the lonf wait in replies, i am working on some machines the local spar want to donate to a school | 14:46 |
| magespawn | a/lonf/long | 14:46 |
| magespawn | maybe have the remastersys create an iso image rather than write it to a dvd | 14:52 |
| Kilos | ya it creates the iso then you burn it to cd. but here on kde i cant even find it | 14:57 |
| Kilos | and it says its in home | 14:57 |
| Kilos | grrr | 14:57 |
| Kilos | no rush lad | 14:57 |
| magespawn | strange | 14:57 |
| Kilos | yeah | 15:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:01 |
| Kilos | kde gets stroppy at times | 15:01 |
| magespawn | what did you call the iso? | 15:01 |
| Kilos | it calls itself custom-backup.iso | 15:02 |
| Kilos | maybe if i run it again it will popup | 15:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:02 |
| magespawn | or search for that file name | 15:03 |
| magespawn | you can open dolphin and click the binocs, type in the file name to search for it | 15:06 |
| magespawn | brb just going to restart | 15:06 |
| Kilos | i tried it dont find it | 15:07 |
| Kilos | it also gives a full log of what it does magespawn | 15:13 |
| Kilos | there is an example | 15:16 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s21GdGEpEj | 15:16 |
| Kilos | also you need to apt-get clean so you cache does make the iso too big for the dvd | 15:16 |
| Kilos | and remove large files/folders from desktop | 15:17 |
| Kilos | or home. like movies etc | 15:17 |
| Kilos | otherwise it tells you there isnt enough space on the device | 15:18 |
| Kilos | but it makes a lovely live dvd | 15:19 |
| Kilos | i spose you can put it on a stick as well | 15:20 |
| Kilos | if you find it that is. wasnt a prob on unity. maybe the crash had something to do with it | 15:22 |
| magespawn | lets have a google | 15:22 |
| Kilos | for what? | 15:23 |
| Kilos | i tried but only found kbuntu installer crashed not remastersys crashed kubuntu | 15:24 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:24 |
| Kilos | oh by google you mean look | 15:24 |
| Kilos | oh superfly i think this kde start looking different because i have installed kubuntu-full here | 15:28 |
| magespawn | can not find anything usuful on the net | 15:31 |
| Kilos | nope | 15:31 |
| Kilos | maybe its only by me as usual | 15:32 |
| magespawn | i am out of here for now, later Kilos. | 15:55 |
| Kilos | go safe magespawn | 15:56 |
| Cantide | hello everyone! '-'/ | 16:15 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide | 16:22 |
| Cantide | hello :) | 16:22 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: any idea how to get a wireless card to connect without networkmanager (nm bombs because dbus is not installed, apparently the upgrade process did not complete properly despite it telling me it did) | 16:29 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: what kind of security? | 16:41 |
| * superfly has figured out how to get wpa_supplicant supposedly working | 16:41 | |
| superfly | tumbleweed: not 100% sure | 16:41 |
| superfly | WPA something or other | 16:41 |
| tumbleweed | ok, you need wpa_supplicant then | 16:42 |
| tumbleweed | if it's WEP or open, then you only need iwconfig | 16:42 |
| superfly | yup, I've got wpa_supplicant | 16:42 |
| superfly | I think I've got it configured correctly | 16:42 |
| superfly | I followed this: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Further_WPA_Configuration_Steps_-_Debian_.2F_Ubuntu | 16:43 |
| superfly | ah, WPA-PSK | 16:43 |
| superfly | same as in that guide | 16:43 |
| tumbleweed | that sounds likely | 16:43 |
| tumbleweed | but I wouldn't bother trying to build a permenant setup, like that | 16:44 |
| superfly | the interface starts up, but dhcp never gets an IP address | 16:44 |
| tumbleweed | just get yourself online and fix your system | 16:44 |
| superfly | no, not at all | 16:44 |
| superfly | exactly | 16:44 |
| tumbleweed | so, run wpa_supplicant with debugging on, and see what it says | 16:44 |
| tumbleweed | it'll know if it authenticated successfully or not | 16:45 |
| superfly | I don't think it is... | 16:48 |
| tumbleweed | right, so figure that out | 16:50 |
| tumbleweed | there are some example configurations in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/examples/ | 16:51 |
| tumbleweed | if it's a home router, it'll be some flavour of WPA-PSK | 16:51 |
| superfly | ya | 16:52 |
| superfly | actually, it's an Apple "AirHub" or something | 16:53 |
| superfly | I just checked on my netbook, it's using WPA-PSK | 16:54 |
| tumbleweed | so, the question is whether it's TKIP or CCMP | 16:55 |
| tumbleweed | that's about it, if it's still not working, you forgot to bring the interface up, your passphrase is wrong, or you aren't pointing at the right config file | 16:55 |
| superfly | TKIP | 16:56 |
| tumbleweed | err, and I suppose, whether it's WPA or WPA2 | 16:56 |
| superfly | 1 | 16:56 |
| tumbleweed | sounds likely, if it's using TKIP | 16:56 |
| superfly | that's what my netbook says, and since it's the same network, I would think it is correct | 16:57 |
| tumbleweed | does it look like it's trying, at least? | 16:58 |
| superfly | yes, it looks like it's trying, but I don't see a success message | 16:59 |
| tumbleweed | I assume you already checked rfkill? | 17:00 |
| tumbleweed | (on some cards, only transmit is disabled by rfkill) | 17:01 |
| superfly | never heard of rfkill, but it says that my card is neither softblocked nor hardblocked | 17:04 |
| tumbleweed | good | 17:07 |
| tumbleweed | you compared the logs with the happy machine? to figure out how much progress it actually made? | 17:08 |
| superfly | no, I can look for logs | 17:16 |
| superfly | I'm seeing an error that might be related though... "Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT" | 17:17 |
| superfly | busy googling to see if I can find a solution | 17:17 |
| tumbleweed | you sure you pointing it at the right device? | 17:18 |
| superfly | yes, but I'm wondering if the driver is wrong | 17:22 |
| superfly | I had to compile a driver for the nic pre-quantal | 17:22 |
| superfly | then in quantal it magically worked with the driver in the repos (a slightly different driver) | 17:22 |
| tumbleweed | ah | 17:23 |
| tumbleweed | what card is it? | 17:23 |
| superfly | Ralink RT3060 | 17:23 |
| superfly | the driver that is loaded is the rt2800 | 17:23 |
| superfly | this is a desktop machine with a PCI wireless card | 17:26 |
| superfly | looks like that's the right driver | 17:30 |
| tumbleweed | ah, never used one of those | 17:31 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: does the alternate cd no longer exist? | 17:36 |
| tumbleweed | nope. But given network connectivity, the mini iso is equivalent | 17:36 |
| superfly | uhuh | 17:37 |
| tumbleweed | sounds like you want a USB ethernet adaptor, though (I'm assuming the problem is the lack of ethernet) | 17:37 |
| superfly | yeah. KDE is not working due to a lack of dbus, therefore no GUI | 17:39 |
| superfly | I need to get dbus installed somehow | 17:39 |
| tumbleweed | and your only connectivity option is wifi? | 17:39 |
| superfly | in essence, yes | 17:40 |
| tumbleweed | why in essence? | 17:40 |
| superfly | I have my networking stuff upstairs, and we don't have a cable long enough to reach downstairs | 17:40 |
| superfly | hence the wireless | 17:40 |
| tumbleweed | ah | 17:41 |
| superfly | I might be able to get something working though | 17:41 |
| tumbleweed | bridge from a laptop | 17:41 |
| tumbleweed | or, I think one can use an android phone as a bridge | 17:41 |
| superfly | hrm, i had briefly thought of that, but i wasn't sure if i'd be able to do it | 17:42 |
| superfly | let me see | 17:42 |
| Tonberry | with an android phone? | 17:42 |
| tumbleweed | they support USB tethering | 17:42 |
| superfly | oh wow, that was easy | 17:42 |
| * superfly smacks his forehead | 17:43 | |
| tumbleweed | and when the phone's wifi is on, you can tether to your wireless AP | 17:43 |
| superfly | should have tried that in the beginning | 17:43 |
| tumbleweed | success :) | 17:43 |
| Tonberry | It will NAT wifi? | 17:43 |
| tumbleweed | still, figuring out wpa_supplicant pays off in emergencies | 17:43 |
| tumbleweed | Tonberry: can't remember if it NATs or bridges in that situation | 17:44 |
| Tonberry | whichever, pretty useful | 17:44 |
| superfly | it puts my wife's computer on my network, and stuff works | 17:44 |
| superfly | that is all i need | 17:44 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 17:44 |
| superfly | yay, got the GUI back | 17:51 |
| superfly | had to reinstall qdbus, for some reason the binary was missing/corrupted/something | 17:52 |
| superfly | and now the wireless network magically works too | 17:57 |
| tumbleweed | good | 18:11 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 18:39 |
| Kilos | lo magespawn | 18:40 |
| magespawn | what up? | 18:40 |
| Kilos | ram remaster again but cant find the iso again'hehe | 18:41 |
| Kilos | kde makes me gray | 18:41 |
| Kilos | most likely wont boot to gui again | 18:43 |
| Kilos | grrr | 18:43 |
| magespawn | Kilos: at least you know what to do to fix it | 18:50 |
| Kilos | found it yay | 18:52 |
| Kilos | will first burn the dvd before i try a reboot | 18:52 |
| Kilos | hi georgelappies | 18:52 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos | 18:55 |
| Kilos | it worked magespawn got my dvd | 19:23 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 19:23 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:46 |
| Vince-0 | heyo | 20:41 |
| Vince-0 | ag look at the time | 20:42 |
| Vince-0 | downloading makululinux from mega at max line speed | 20:43 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 20:43 |
| kbmonkey | makululinux? that's new to me :) | 20:43 |
| kbmonkey | busy setting up my android development environment | 20:43 |
| kbmonkey | got a test app running on the emulator, and on my phone so far :) | 20:44 |
| Vince-0 | naas | 20:44 |
| Vince-0 | do we see you at the meet tomorrow? | 20:44 |
| kbmonkey | yes! | 20:45 |
| Vince-0 | ya some guy in Joburg, Jaque Reymer rolled his own distro with like 4 desktop environments | 20:45 |
| Vince-0 | do you run the latest eclipse and android SDK ? | 20:45 |
| kbmonkey | I just got the ADT bundle from developer.android.com it includes eclipse and all the tools | 20:46 |
| Vince-0 | I'd like to see that, cooler as eke | 20:46 |
| Vince-0 | im out! | 20:46 |
| kbmonkey | cheers man! | 20:46 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: Have you looked at Google App Engine at all? | 21:04 |
| kbmonkey | I've read through it superfly but never built anything using it | 21:11 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: it's pretty cool. it's like Amazon EC2 but without all the sysadmin | 21:12 |
| superfly | you just deploy your app, and you don't care about servers or load balancing or anything else like that | 21:12 |
| kbmonkey | I was impressed with all the API's they offer through it too | 21:15 |
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