=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [05:23] morning === kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey [05:39] morning [05:41] Morning Squirm === Kilos is now known as squ [05:42] oh my === squ is now known as Kilos === Kilos is now known as squ === squ is now known as Kilos [05:43] morning Trixar_za Squirm [05:44] wbb === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:59] ohi [07:06] hi superhow are you feeling today [07:06] ? [07:07] ive fixed my kubuntu. ty for reminding about the purge thingie [07:08] purged all i could find on nvidia kdm xserver xorg then installed xserver xorg kdm and everything worked again, even startx [07:09] now installed nvidia-current so all good [07:10] that gdm i saw musta been in maverick because i tried to purge it too but not found hehe [07:10] hi morgs [07:11] Morning Kilos and * [07:17] hi Vince-0 [07:19] heo [07:19] morning peeps [07:20] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:22] oh my i read back and got a superhow not superfly [07:23] sorry konversation does differnt things to xchat [07:23] different [07:26] Kilos: glad you came right Kilos [07:26] ty [07:27] thats all i see funny now [07:28] only here it also says /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpoppler.so.19 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start [07:28] whatever that might mean [07:29] hey guys [07:29] will have to get harry potter to come fix that cause i dunno magic stuff [07:29] hi zeref [07:30] good morning [07:30] oh and good morning Kilos [07:30] hello goosie [07:30] lol [07:30] * inetpro is baie boos [07:30] still cheeky i see [07:30] hoekom? [07:30] that monkey [07:30] * Kilos forgets boos [07:30] killed another 5 chickens [07:31] ai! [07:31] this time he got inside the closed coup [07:31] you havent got sleeping pills yet?? [07:31] hey [07:31] looks like he killed for the fun [07:31] eish [07:31] took one of them out into the tree [07:32] I've got a program that uses sqlite, is it better to open the db connection at the start ot the program and close the connection when I close the connection, or open close conneciton per sql query? [07:38] idoesnt it open on its own [07:38] i know ibid uses sqlite and does its own work with it [07:46] good morning [07:46] Maaz: coffee on [07:46] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:47] apparently i was right to not upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 and the linux 3.8 kernel [07:47] i would have had problems: http://mergy.org/2013/03/three-tips-to-get-vmware-workstation-9-going-on-kernel-3-8-0/ [07:48] Maaz: coffee please [07:48] Kilos: Yessir [07:49] ai! charl ya lucky [07:50] nah just careful :) [07:50] i always try new releases on a spare drive first [07:50] that's a good idea [07:50] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [07:50] Maaz: thanks [07:50] charl: No problem [07:50] lol but 13.04 looked good here [07:51] Maaz: dankie [07:51] Groot plesier Kilos my vriend [07:51] lol [07:51] only too much eye candy with unity [07:52] made for modern pc's methinks [07:52] fast with lotsa ram [07:55] (.)(.) [07:55] _ [07:56] zeref: always hold the connection open for as long as possible [07:57] mornin [07:57] hi trender [07:57] yo dude [08:02] good morning all [08:03] hi magespawn [08:04] fixed kde [08:04] yay [08:04] cool beans [08:04] but something is lying to me [08:04] guten morgen meine leute [08:05] remastersys says the iso is saved at /home/remastersys/remastersys/custom-backup.iso [08:05] but i cant find it anywhere [08:07] and its 3.8 gig so woulda made a lekker live dvd [08:10] hey charl [09:20] Kilos: you still there? [09:20] yessir [09:20] i dont split [09:20] man the power is like a yo yo here today [09:20] aw [09:37] oh my 8ta speed hit 275 KiB/s [09:38] 293.5 [09:38] yay [09:40] cool Kilos, wonder what they did to change it? [09:41] they just gotta make sure everything is as it should be [09:41] maintenance [09:42] sad that they wait till somebody kicks up a fuss before doing something [09:43] i think they just need a bit of pushing now and again magespawn [09:43] yeah but thats human nature [09:43] dont do today what you can leave till tomorrow [09:43] modern human nature that is [09:45] i try to stay away from that sort of behaviour [09:47] yeah bad news [09:47] old was was other way around [09:48] you see the thing is they still get paid if they work hard or slack so why worry [10:14] indeed, i need to find a job like that for myself [10:15] then i can play with my computer all day long [10:16] lol [10:45] funny hey magespawn they told me they had upgraded this tower to 12 meg [10:45] 12 meg is nothing [10:46] maybe they made a mistake [10:49] ? [10:49] maybe its something in the tower that had maybe 6 meg before [10:52] mbit/s of data uplink perhaps? [10:54] ? [10:55] maybe they gave the tower a faster internet connection [10:57] i really dont know but since they did the upgrade my connection sucked [10:58] only now its getting better again [11:08] well http://speedtest.mybroadband.co.za/ shows its 1 mb/s faster than yesterday [11:09] but nm still showing only 2 bars [11:13] maybe a coupla more fone calls can boost that too [11:13] wb drussell [11:40] wow that speed test service on mybroadband.co.za is terribly slow, even the international one [11:41] hi jma [11:41] grrr [11:43] it's interesting to watch http://www.ookla.com/ and see where speed tests are being performed in real time [11:44] my speed shows as 2.34mb/s [11:44] was down to 1.2 [11:44] i keep the map open for a while and you start seeing the best connected countries in orange [11:45] i am surprised at how well europe is doing compared to north america [11:47] the "last 24 hours" option ia also interesting [12:10] i'm off, have a good weekend all! [13:56] hey magespawn you still here? [14:02] yup [14:02] busy getting some software [14:10] i just wanted support to try remastersys on kde again [14:10] if i crash them you to blame [14:10] hehe [14:10] worked so lekker on unity, i dunno what could be wrong [14:12] i have never used remastersys [14:13] it make a full system backup on a dvd [14:13] makes and installable iso [14:14] i tried it when maverick was young but didnt have a dvdwriter yet so gave up [14:15] cd is always too small for a working ubntu\ [14:15] ubuntu [14:15] but now im bang it crashes my kde again [14:16] do you know what happened last time? [14:17] the xserver and xorg an nvidia stuff stopped working [14:18] was a major purge operation and renstall of them [14:18] but luckily with the nm script it goes online before gui starts [14:19] so its like working on a server [14:20] remastersys runs as root methinks so can get in everywhere [14:45] why did they stop working? any idea? [14:46] sorry for the lonf wait in replies, i am working on some machines the local spar want to donate to a school [14:46] a/lonf/long [14:52] maybe have the remastersys create an iso image rather than write it to a dvd [14:57] ya it creates the iso then you burn it to cd. but here on kde i cant even find it [14:57] and it says its in home [14:57] grrr [14:57] no rush lad [14:57] strange [15:01] yeah [15:01] lol [15:01] kde gets stroppy at times [15:01] what did you call the iso? [15:02] it calls itself custom-backup.iso [15:02] maybe if i run it again it will popup [15:02] hehe [15:03] or search for that file name [15:06] you can open dolphin and click the binocs, type in the file name to search for it [15:06] brb just going to restart [15:07] i tried it dont find it [15:13] it also gives a full log of what it does magespawn [15:16] there is an example [15:16] http://slexy.org/view/s21GdGEpEj [15:16] also you need to apt-get clean so you cache does make the iso too big for the dvd [15:17] and remove large files/folders from desktop [15:17] or home. like movies etc [15:18] otherwise it tells you there isnt enough space on the device [15:19] but it makes a lovely live dvd [15:20] i spose you can put it on a stick as well [15:22] if you find it that is. wasnt a prob on unity. maybe the crash had something to do with it [15:22] lets have a google [15:23] for what? [15:24] i tried but only found kbuntu installer crashed not remastersys crashed kubuntu [15:24] hehe [15:24] oh by google you mean look [15:28] oh superfly i think this kde start looking different because i have installed kubuntu-full here [15:31] can not find anything usuful on the net [15:31] nope [15:32] maybe its only by me as usual [15:55] i am out of here for now, later Kilos. [15:56] go safe magespawn [16:15] hello everyone! '-'/ [16:22] hi Cantide [16:22] hello :) [16:29] tumbleweed: any idea how to get a wireless card to connect without networkmanager (nm bombs because dbus is not installed, apparently the upgrade process did not complete properly despite it telling me it did) [16:41] superfly: what kind of security? [16:41] * superfly has figured out how to get wpa_supplicant supposedly working [16:41] tumbleweed: not 100% sure [16:41] WPA something or other [16:42] ok, you need wpa_supplicant then [16:42] if it's WEP or open, then you only need iwconfig [16:42] yup, I've got wpa_supplicant [16:42] I think I've got it configured correctly [16:43] I followed this: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Further_WPA_Configuration_Steps_-_Debian_.2F_Ubuntu [16:43] ah, WPA-PSK [16:43] same as in that guide [16:43] that sounds likely [16:44] but I wouldn't bother trying to build a permenant setup, like that [16:44] the interface starts up, but dhcp never gets an IP address [16:44] just get yourself online and fix your system [16:44] no, not at all [16:44] exactly [16:44] so, run wpa_supplicant with debugging on, and see what it says [16:45] it'll know if it authenticated successfully or not [16:48] I don't think it is... [16:50] right, so figure that out [16:51] there are some example configurations in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/examples/ [16:51] if it's a home router, it'll be some flavour of WPA-PSK [16:52] ya [16:53] actually, it's an Apple "AirHub" or something [16:54] I just checked on my netbook, it's using WPA-PSK [16:55] so, the question is whether it's TKIP or CCMP [16:55] that's about it, if it's still not working, you forgot to bring the interface up, your passphrase is wrong, or you aren't pointing at the right config file [16:56] TKIP [16:56] err, and I suppose, whether it's WPA or WPA2 [16:56] 1 [16:56] sounds likely, if it's using TKIP [16:57] that's what my netbook says, and since it's the same network, I would think it is correct [16:58] does it look like it's trying, at least? [16:59] yes, it looks like it's trying, but I don't see a success message [17:00] I assume you already checked rfkill? [17:01] (on some cards, only transmit is disabled by rfkill) [17:04] never heard of rfkill, but it says that my card is neither softblocked nor hardblocked [17:07] good [17:08] you compared the logs with the happy machine? to figure out how much progress it actually made? [17:16] no, I can look for logs [17:17] I'm seeing an error that might be related though... "Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT" [17:17] busy googling to see if I can find a solution [17:18] you sure you pointing it at the right device? [17:22] yes, but I'm wondering if the driver is wrong [17:22] I had to compile a driver for the nic pre-quantal [17:22] then in quantal it magically worked with the driver in the repos (a slightly different driver) [17:23] ah [17:23] what card is it? [17:23] Ralink RT3060 [17:23] the driver that is loaded is the rt2800 [17:26] this is a desktop machine with a PCI wireless card [17:30] looks like that's the right driver [17:31] ah, never used one of those [17:36] tumbleweed: does the alternate cd no longer exist? [17:36] nope. But given network connectivity, the mini iso is equivalent [17:37] uhuh [17:37] sounds like you want a USB ethernet adaptor, though (I'm assuming the problem is the lack of ethernet) [17:39] yeah. KDE is not working due to a lack of dbus, therefore no GUI [17:39] I need to get dbus installed somehow [17:39] and your only connectivity option is wifi? [17:40] in essence, yes [17:40] why in essence? [17:40] I have my networking stuff upstairs, and we don't have a cable long enough to reach downstairs [17:40] hence the wireless [17:41] ah [17:41] I might be able to get something working though [17:41] bridge from a laptop [17:41] or, I think one can use an android phone as a bridge [17:42] hrm, i had briefly thought of that, but i wasn't sure if i'd be able to do it [17:42] let me see [17:42] with an android phone? [17:42] they support USB tethering [17:42] oh wow, that was easy [17:43] * superfly smacks his forehead [17:43] and when the phone's wifi is on, you can tether to your wireless AP [17:43] should have tried that in the beginning [17:43] success :) [17:43] It will NAT wifi? [17:43] still, figuring out wpa_supplicant pays off in emergencies [17:44] Tonberry: can't remember if it NATs or bridges in that situation [17:44] whichever, pretty useful [17:44] it puts my wife's computer on my network, and stuff works [17:44] that is all i need [17:44] heh [17:51] yay, got the GUI back [17:52] had to reinstall qdbus, for some reason the binary was missing/corrupted/something [17:57] and now the wireless network magically works too [18:11] good [18:39] good evening all [18:40] lo magespawn [18:40] what up? [18:41] ram remaster again but cant find the iso again'hehe [18:41] kde makes me gray [18:43] most likely wont boot to gui again [18:43] grrr [18:50] Kilos: at least you know what to do to fix it [18:52] found it yay [18:52] will first burn the dvd before i try a reboot [18:52] hi georgelappies [18:55] hi Kilos [19:23] it worked magespawn got my dvd [19:23] night all sleep tight [19:46] good night all [20:41] heyo [20:42] ag look at the time [20:43] downloading makululinux from mega at max line speed [20:43] hello [20:43] makululinux? that's new to me :) [20:43] busy setting up my android development environment [20:44] got a test app running on the emulator, and on my phone so far :) [20:44] naas [20:44] do we see you at the meet tomorrow? [20:45] yes! [20:45] ya some guy in Joburg, Jaque Reymer rolled his own distro with like 4 desktop environments [20:45] do you run the latest eclipse and android SDK ? [20:46] I just got the ADT bundle from developer.android.com it includes eclipse and all the tools [20:46] I'd like to see that, cooler as eke [20:46] im out! [20:46] cheers man! [21:04] kbmonkey: Have you looked at Google App Engine at all? [21:11] I've read through it superfly but never built anything using it [21:12] kbmonkey: it's pretty cool. it's like Amazon EC2 but without all the sysadmin [21:12] you just deploy your app, and you don't care about servers or load balancing or anything else like that [21:15] I was impressed with all the API's they offer through it too