[00:00] <daftykins> kernel removes are pretty intensive
[00:00] <X13> maxreports keep reporting full
[00:00] <harris> hi how do i turn off the power saving thing in that file from terminal
[00:00] <nn7> is there a way to switch out of the GUI on the live CD without rebooting?
[00:00] <nn7> ctrl-alt-f1 isn't working
[00:02] <daftykins> nn7: you'd be kinda stuck using it if you can't get to a TTY ;)
[00:02] <daftykins> back shortly.
[00:02] <sduncan> anyone with macbook pro seen something along the lines of this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: "Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist, 0)". I've been trying to get 12.04 running on this mbp 6,2 for days now.
[00:03] <nn7> I'm having so many difficulties with the GUI
[00:03] <sduncan> fwiw, the nouveau driver worked
[00:03] <nn7> it's moving at about 3 FPS
[00:03] <Micdisc> sduncan what if you try the new version of ubuntu?
[00:03] <nn7> clicking on things usually doesn't work
[00:03] <ScoobyDoo> Hi all, I am wondering what I might need to get "certified" with Ubuntu? I am reading a job listing and they require Ubuntu certification . TIA :)
[00:03] <nn7> I just want a text terminal
[00:03] <nn7> jesus fucking christ
[00:03] <FloodBot1> nn7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <b14d3> daftykins, Weird news. I rebooted the server, initially with the eth cord disconnected, and now it's acting fine
[00:03] <IdleOne> !language | nn7
[00:03] <ScoobyDoo> nn7 control-alt T
[00:03] <b14d3> The server = my Ubuntu box
[00:03] <sduncan> Micdisc at this point I suppose it would be worth a shot. but i've heard others have nvidia_current running just fine on 12.04
[00:04] <nn7> I'm stuck with the "Terminal" with "Uninstall" and "Launch" buttons, the launch just keeps blinking at me. ctrl-alt T does nothing
[00:05] <Micdisc> Anyone know where to get a decent laptop to Ubuntu without spending a bunch? used would be fine as well
[00:07] <stufffyy> does anyone have any experience with iwlwifi?
[00:07] <X13> daftykins: seems to be kinda clearing up. Finally started the rest of the clean up.
[00:07] <ni638629> can I have help
[00:08] <hi> help?
[00:08] <stufffyy> does anyone have any experience with iwlwifi?
[00:08] <antman> help
[00:08] <daftykins> antman: ask away if you have a problem
[00:08] <antman> how do I make irc bots to. boot an ip?
[00:09] <antman> ./shellcmd (ip)(port)
[00:09] <harris> hi how do i turn off the power saving thing in that file from terminal
[00:09] <antman> ?
[00:09] <antman> how do I DDoS on irc
[00:10] <RileyGuy> Hello, I am having problems with blueman bluetooth manager and pulseaudio not liking eachother
[00:10] <RileyGuy> Think anyone can help me?
[00:11] <daftykins> X13: ace. the -f install bit?
[00:12] <harris> my computer keeps poping
[00:12] <X13> daftykins: finished do what now... -f install?
[00:12] <ben941> hey can anyone help me with some basic concept questions about SnapRAID + Greyhole?
[00:12] <ben941> no one replies in the greyhole channel and i'm fairly new to linux/ubuntu
[00:13] <antman> help
[00:13] <daftykins> X13: 'sudo apt-get -f install' yeah
[00:13] <daftykins> antman: please go away
[00:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, im not familiar with either
[00:13] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:13] <ben941> I *think* I have Snapraid set up correctly
[00:13] <X13> daftykins: kk doing now
[00:13] <ben941> it is just a snapshot raid
[00:13] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:13] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:14] <ben941> using the largest disk for parity
[00:14] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:14] <ben941> but you've  never heard of Greyhole for storage pooling?
[00:14] <X13> daftykins: it told me to do auto remove
[00:14] <IdleOne> antman: not by flooding this channel.
[00:14] <ubuntuaddicted> antman, please stay on topic. this is an ubuntu help channel
[00:14] <stufffyy> does anyone know where the CONFIG_FW_LOADER file is?
[00:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, nope, never heard of either
[00:15] <ben941> They are basically opensource alternatives to options like unraid - allowing you to add to the raid/pool as you go and mix and match different drive sizes
[00:15] <ben941> well darn
[00:15] <ubuntuaddicted> stufffyy, sudo find / -name CONFIG_FW_LOADER
[00:15] <ben941> i hope someone shows up in the greyhole channel
[00:15] <daftykins> ben941: sounds like the worst idea ever.
[00:15] <ben941> why is that?
[00:15] <SineTheCreator`> hi all. on the ubuntu site there is an icon for an alternative browser that is a dog paw with 'du' inside the logo
[00:15] <mega1> i have ubuntu 11.10 connect to windows 2008 ad and i can logon how do i get it to get logon script from ad
[00:15] <daftykins> X13: ja i was gonna recommend that, but no biggy for now
[00:15] <X13> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/RwQCze1x
[00:15] <SineTheCreator`> what browser is this?
[00:16] <X13> daftykins: i tried and it failed
[00:16] <SineTheCreator`> nevermind, it's baidu
[00:16] <daftykins> ben941: have you used other RAID implementations before? hardware and software based?
[00:16] <harris> i need to turn off power saving
[00:16] <harris> how
[00:16] <stufffyy> ubuntuaddicted: thks
[00:16] <ben941> if you look up raid alternatives you are bound to find unraid, freenas, and snapraid listed as free option
[00:16] <daftykins> X13: ah you forgot sudo :)
[00:16] <ben941> daftykins: yes I have a raid 5 running on my windows machine now
[00:16] <X13> opps
[00:17] <daftykins> ben941: software or hardware controller based?
[00:17] <ubuntuaddicted> stufffyy, i've heard of uNraid
[00:17] <X13> daftykins: lol silly me anything else I should do?
[00:17] <ben941> daftykins: hardware but not dedicated card - motherboard firmware AMD sb750
[00:18] <daftykins> X13: err, if the -f install completed fine, i'd do a final "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be happy, then do a clean boot into the newest installed kernel
[00:18] <ben941> daftykins: 3x 750GB WD Green drives in raid 5 for 1.5GB space total
[00:18] <X13> Clean boot?
[00:18] <daftykins> ugh 3 disk RAID 5 :(
[00:18] <riddrib> god
[00:18] <daftykins> X13: ja just a restart
[00:18] <ben941> daftykins: better than any other options if I wanted redundancy
[00:19] <ubuntuaddicted> 1.5GB total space? lol
[00:19] <daftykins> ben941: a friend runs ZFS, it sounds great
[00:19] <X13> daftykins: ok cool
[00:19] <mega1> does anyone know how to get a logon script from active directory
[00:19] <daftykins> ben941: my first was a 8 x 250GB RAID 5 on a 3ware controller for 1.75TB useable, latest is 6 x 1TB RAID 5. i've also put together a 8 x 2TB RAID 6
[00:20] <daftykins> all on 3ware controllers. i love them ;x
[00:20] <ben941> daftykins: right now i've already started setting up an old intel dual core w/ 3gb ram as a webserver/NAS box,   ZFS was too high above my head for someone new to unix/linux style OS
[00:20] <daftykins> yeah, ZFS does sound like a headf*** when it's time to debug
[00:20] <daftykins> RAID5 is just nicer on >6 disks
[00:21] <ubuntuaddicted> my largest drive is only a 1TB
[00:21] <WeThePeople> how do i look at pid in terminal
[00:21] <WeThePeople> what command
[00:21] <ben941> daftykins: I'd love to have that kind of money - getting my fakeraid Highpoint RocketRaid 622 card to even work with Ubuntu versions past 3.0 required modifying the build code myself.... horrible support for their cards despite claiming to be compatible with linux =/    unfortunately it came with my Hard drive cage and free was free
[00:21] <ubuntuaddicted> i've considered uNraid because I have all different size disks but you have to pay when you hagve more then 3 disks i think
[00:21] <ben941> exactly what ubuntuaddicted said
[00:21] <th0r> WeThePeople: ps ?
[00:22] <ben941> Is why I went with SnapRAID
[00:22] <ubuntuaddicted> WeThePeople, ps
[00:22] <ben941> this is just a home server...
[00:22] <daftykins> ben941: =[
[00:22] <daftykins> my 5TB is almost full sadly
[00:22] <daftykins> but i can't be bothered to drop another grand on disks
[00:22] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, my trouble is going to be copying all my info from my scarttered drives to a RAID server once I set one up, it'll take forever over NFS
[00:23] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, WOW, 5TB worth of files? what, ripped blu rays?
[00:23] <ben941> it now has 3x 3TB drives, 2 WD Green and 1 WD Red...  the Red is set up as the Parity Drive.     I will be adding the 3x 750GB WD Green drives and a few other extra drives ~500GB WD Cavier to the array once i get it set up
[00:23] <daftykins> ubuntuaddicted: a few TB of TV, few of film ja
[00:23] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, recorded yourself or torrented?
[00:24] <ben941> it is this mix and match of drives that made me go with SnapRAID... that an other solutions for mixing and matching different drive types and sizes are not free or limit your drive numbers to 3 max (unraid)
[00:24] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, cause i use mythtv and love it
[00:24] <ubuntuaddicted> whats the smallest hdd you guys have seen?
[00:25] <ubuntuaddicted> i want to check approx ages here. heheh
[00:25] <daftykins> haha
[00:25] <daftykins> well i grew up with pre-HDD systems
[00:25] <ben941> ubuntuaddicted:  my use of plex server and complete abandon for my cable box recently is why I have gone this route to set up a homebuilt mediaserver/NAS in the first place :)    I installed sickbeard and couchpotato but have not set it up -  when I can afford a tuner card I might look into MythTV
[00:25] <daftykins> but i think one of the apricots had a 40MB magnetic tape reel based drive
[00:25] <ben941> 500MB
[00:25] <WeThePeople> ubuntuaddicted, 6 mb
[00:25] <ben941> oh well if you talk magnetic tape...
[00:26] <ubuntuaddicted> WeThePeople, wow man, thats tiny
[00:26] <WeThePeople> ubuntuaddicted, its ps -ef
[00:26] <ben941> but I was only like 8 max then, in the reel storage room at the hospital my dad did IT work for
[00:26] <ben941> noisy rooms
[00:26] <ubuntuaddicted> im talking hard DISK drives, platter
[00:27] <ben941> I believe < 50MB - an old laptop from FDIC back in the mid 90s
[00:27] <ubuntuaddicted> my father purchased a macintosh plus and it didn't even come with a hard drive. lol
[00:27] <ben941> mother has worked for FDIC for a long while
[00:27] <ubuntuaddicted> i'm asking that you guys have actually worked with yourself.
[00:27] <ben941> it was something like 16mb, and odd number
[00:28] <ubuntuaddicted> me, it was a 4GB hard drive that came in a hitachi visionbook plus laptop, i swapped it out for a 10GB and was really excited. lol
[00:28] <x13> daftykins: So i still cant get into the software center
[00:28] <daftykins> ah well i started to dabble with hardware once we got a 1,083MB seagate in a 'dan' Pentium 1, 120MHz
[00:29] <daftykins> my dad chose DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11 over Windows 95
[00:29] <daftykins> D:
[00:29] <ben941> myself?  I started building my computers with around 400-500mb drives
[00:29] <daftykins> x13: oh was that the original problem? :D tbh i never saw that
[00:29] <ubuntuaddicted> my dad paid $2600 for the mac plus in the late 80's, came with 1MB of RAM
[00:29] <loganlee> ubuntuaddicted: hahaha
[00:29] <harris> hello
[00:30] <ubuntuaddicted> BUT you could max it out at 4MB of RAM. lol
[00:30] <x13> daftykins: yeah that and not being able to update but i think we took care of the later part
[00:30] <harris> i need to turn off power saving
[00:30] <loganlee> ubuntuaddicted: did it have tape drive?
[00:30] <ben941> back when velociraptor from WD was a true 3.5in and the 7-7,500 rpm was the 'velociraptor' speed instead of 10,000
[00:30] <loganlee> i remember very first computer i had had a tape drive instead of floppy
[00:30] <ubuntuaddicted> loganlee, i didn't have an internal drive, i think he bought an external hdd for it but don't know if it was tape or not
[00:31] <loganlee> oic hehe
[00:31] <daftykins> x13: that's what i like to hear \o/
[00:31] <tuffgong> IS IT  POSSIBLE TO UPGRADE  FROM 12.04 TO 13.04
[00:31] <harris> anyone
[00:31] <daftykins> tuffgong: yes but not directly. you have to go to 12.10 then to 13.04
[00:31] <ubuntuaddicted> tuffgong, you have to first upgrade to 12.10, and then 13.04
[00:32] <ben941> To get an idea of my age - it was when windows was 3.x and you still ran most games from dos - and shutting down windows meant exiting to dos....    not near as old as tape drives (at least for home use)
[00:32] <x13> daftykins: Yes indeed. Thankyou very much. Any ideas about the software center
[00:32] <ubuntuaddicted> harris, hello, just ask your questions
[00:33] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, my father was an apple guy from the start, and schools back then were apple II and apple II GS so my first exposure to windows was 95
[00:33] <ben941> I'm scared to upgrade from 12.04 for my server at least - took enough code editing just to get the crappy RR62x esata card drivers from highpoint to work with anything above kernel 3.0
[00:33] <tuffgong> daftykins,ubuntuaddicted    the 12.10 package isnt thhere
[00:33] <donvito2> is there a way to delete older ubuntu distros ? like 3.2.0.34 , 3.2.0-35 etc
[00:33] <mega1> does anyone know how to get a logon script from active directory
[00:33] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, on my media server I always stick with LTS releases
[00:33] <ben941> ubuntuaddicted: now that you mention it, at my preschool they used all apple computers
[00:33] <daftykins> x13: my pleasure :) which version is this? tbh i've not used desktop ubuntu in a while. i'd try and find the program name, e.g. maybe it's 'ubuntu-software-centre' and run it from a terminal to see if it'll show error messages
[00:34] <netlar> I have a question about bluetooth, I get the message "Device added successfully, but failed to connect".  Not sure if I need a driver or there is some fix I can do.
[00:34] <ben941> at home was where my parents had the windows 3.x and dos
[00:34] <zykotick9> donvito2: those are kernels.  yes, you can uninstall the ones you don't use.
[00:34] <ubuntuaddicted> donvito2, yes, open synaptic and search for linux and you can remove old kernels
[00:34] <donvito2> let me check
[00:34] <donvito2> thanks
[00:34] <ben941> donvito2:  use google
[00:34] <x13> daftykins: I am running the laptop version.... not exactly sure which one it is, i think 12.0.4
[00:34] <zykotick9> !google | ben941
[00:34] <ben941> there are so many wiki articles to step by step walk you through an upgrade and removing old images it isn't even funny
[00:34] <daftykins> x13: cat /etc/lsb-release
[00:35] <netlar> I am already using blueman to help this this, how can I connect my speakers correctly?
[00:35] <zykotick9> daftykins: running "lsb_release -a" would be a more common suggestion.
[00:35] <ben941> i suggest giving a link to the ubuntu wiki on upgrading distros then - simply as it would be more useful to him than use trying to explain the steps
[00:35] <daftykins> zykotick9: ty, is that in all versions?
[00:36] <zykotick9> daftykins: all debian based, and many other distros as well.
[00:36] <x13> daftykins: says none existant file
[00:36] <zykotick9> daftykins: "lsb_release -sc" is really handy ;)
[00:36] <ubuntuaddicted> what about cat /etc/issue
[00:37] <x13> ubuntu 12.10
[00:37] <x13> daftykins: /issue worked 12.10
[00:37] <guideX> 12.10 to 13.04 -> should I be worried?
[00:38] <ben941> "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" are at the start of SOOO many 'how-tos'
[00:38] <guideX> I already clicked the upgrade button
[00:38] <ben941> guidex: do you have any add-in cards?
[00:38] <daftykins> zykotick9: do you have an answer as to the name of the software centre executable for x13 to try in a terminal ?
[00:38] <guideX> nope
[00:38] <guideX> i'm in a vm
[00:38] <ben941> then no i wouldn't be concerned at all
[00:38] <guideX> ah cool
[00:38] <guideX> does anyone know if 13.04 performs better in vmbox with unity?
[00:38] <guideX> seems like 12.10 unity was non functional in a vm
[00:38] <guideX> err in vbox
[00:39] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, you could just create another VM and install 13.04 in it. that's the great thing about VM'sd
[00:39] <guideX> that's true
[00:39] <ben941> the performance is constantly being tweaked - and remember 12.10 was beta for much of the time, never an LTS
[00:39] <guideX> oh didn't know that about 12.10
[00:39] <guideX> it performed quite well
[00:39] <harris> i need to turn off power saving
[00:39] <guideX> other than unity being slow as heck in vbox
[00:39] <ben941> 12.04 was the LTS, 12.10 was not long term support
[00:40] <ben941> thats likely because of unity having so much interface with internet databases, to purchase media etc
[00:40] <ubuntuaddicted> i stick with LTS personally
[00:40] <ubuntuaddicted> just recently went to 12.04, was running 10.04.4 for the longest time
[00:41] <zykotick9> compiz is a resource "hog", unity is a compiz plugin...
[00:41] <ubuntuaddicted> i have 1 machine running 12.10 with gnome-classic mode though as I don't like unity
[00:41] <harris> my sound chip keeps turning off and on making a pop noise
[00:41] <guideX> I have an 11.04 I can't get rid of as well heh
[00:41] <guideX> it's sad, I can't upgrade it, can't delete it.. i'm just stuck with that one the way it is heh..
[00:41] <ben941> "sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop" will install the desktop without the included packages like the options to buy media from unity
[00:41] <harris> dr_jesus_,
[00:41] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, in a VM?
[00:42] <guideX> yeah
[00:42] <ben941> and without the office libre suite
[00:42] <Guest25748> i used rematersys with 13.04 x64 amd. it did the iso but it stop during the installation saying something with busybox ... do you know something ?
[00:42] <ben941> you can then go back and add the packages you want included
[00:42] <x13> software center just freezes
[00:42] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, then just delete the VM.
[00:42] <guideX> it's a dev box I inherited from another developer, it has too much on it and is too hard to replace
[00:42] <guideX> the other developer failed to update it
[00:42] <ben941> that would likely give you a significant increase in performance within a VM
[00:42] <ktims> hi there, i have had a package fail the --configure step. I've had to fix it manually outside of dpkg, but apt now wants to run configure on this every time. how can i mark it fixed in apt database?
[00:43] <ktims> i can't just run --configure as it will try to import the ldap database and clobber my fix, as well as failing
[00:43] <ben941> ktims: it sounds like there is still outdated code in the package
[00:43] <nullby7e> how can i quit from X to check something
[00:43] <ben941> ktims: or redundant code or an overlooked issue
[00:44] <ubuntuaddicted> null1024, sudo service lightdm stop
[00:44] <ubuntuaddicted> null1024, that's for 12.04. you can do that from tty1 thru tty6
[00:44] <ktims> i think it's because my ldap db is replicated, anyway this is an ancient 8.10->9.04 upgrade i'm trying to bring up to date, the package is working i just want to move on
[00:44] <guideX> is there some unofficial unsupported way to update 11.04 to 13.04?
[00:44] <guideX> which may or may not work, etc
[00:45] <ben941> guidex: you download the image to upgrade to 12.04, image to upgrade to 12.10, and then image to upgrade to 13.04
[00:45] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, no, you have to always upgrade to the next version, all the way up to where you want to go BUT I would suggest a fresh install
[00:45] <TheNewGuy> Hi
[00:46] <guideX> problem specifically is, this box hosts a bunch of old php zend websites I can't reproduce the environment on another machine
[00:46] <guideX> it seems to only work on 11.04
[00:46] <riddrib> if you pandora radio account expire you can use in ubuntu the program Pithos with the same account for ever!
[00:46] <guideX> for these old php zend sites
[00:47] <ben941> guidex: you would install the next version and restart ur VM between each upgrade - and the "--no-install-recommends" will still give you unity without the extra media purchasing options coming up everytime you search for software, which might help your performance
[00:48] <guideX> oh cool
[00:48] <guideX> i'll try that
[00:48] <ben941> you would just need to make sure you install any specific packages or programs you want that is usually included
[00:48] <ben941> like libre office, etc
[00:48] <guideX> oh of course.. I usually only use developer tools and such
[00:48] <guideX> so that's not a problem
[00:48] <guideX> I install geany, php, mysql, apache etc
[00:48] <dwarder> i have openssl version 1.0.1 installed and also i have openvpn installed and it doesn't contain config for openssh 1.0.1 only for 1.0.0 and below
[00:48] <dwarder> what shoul i do?
[00:49] <loganlee> dwarder: wat...
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> Hey whenever I install something with apt-get, i get this following error
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:49] <TheNewGuy>  avg2013flx
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> anyone might know whats going on?
[00:50] <ben941> guideX: these two links should be helpful to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20%28Recommended%29  and http://askubuntu.com/questions/2093/how-to-install-gui-desktop-on-a-server
[00:50] <harris> my sound chip keeps turning off and on making a pop noise
[00:50] <loganlee> TheNewGuy: apt-get update
[00:50] <dwarder> loganlee: in easy rsa folder of openvpn there are configs for openssl
[00:50] <michael87> took a long time to theme up ubuntu damn. But it looking good now
[00:50] <loganlee> ???
[00:50] <dwarder> loganlee: there is not config for 1.0.1
[00:51] <loganlee> hehe
[00:51] <TheNewGuy> loganlee what do u mean?
[00:51] <dwarder> no*
[00:51] <loganlee> yeh....
[00:51] <Zync> hey  guys i'm having a problem in dual boot with win7 and ubunto
[00:51] <loganlee> TheNewGuy: run apt-get update
[00:51] <loganlee> sudo apt-get update
[00:51] <TheNewGuy> k
[00:51] <zykotick9> TheNewGuy: i assume to tried to install AVG?  why do you want antivirus on gnu/linux?
[00:51] <TheNewGuy> yea lol
[00:51] <michael87> so I'm having trouble with the dreamcast emulator. it is very laggy. Tried to install demul through crossover. keeps crashing. I'm certain my laptop should be able to emulate dreamcast no problem. 256 intel grpahics card please help
[00:51] <netlar> I think the problem is I am getting no signal strength for my bluetooth dongle, how can I fix that?
[00:51] <zykotick9> !virus
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> well... i came from windows background...
[00:52] <riddrib> How need antivirus in ubuntu ?
[00:52] <zykotick9> TheNewGuy: see ubottu message above.
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> yea
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> but I am using vm
[00:52] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, most virus's are written to affect windows OS
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> so i have a shared directory with my windows host machine
[00:52] <loganlee> TheNewGuy: do u run windows 8?
[00:52] <loganlee> i like windows 8
[00:53] <Zync> when i choose ubuntu 12.04 over win7 it shows an error regarding i should put win7 cd and restart your pc yadda yadda, but win7 runs fine, its just ubuntu that wont work
[00:53] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, then just use anti-virus in windows
[00:53] <ubuntuaddicted> Zync, sounds like your grub menu entry is messed up
[00:53] <TheNewGuy> I guess
[00:53] <TheNewGuy> i run windowso 7 btw
[00:53] <Zync> how do i fix it?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> Zync, This an install from windows of ubuntu?
[00:53] <guideX> <- runs windows 7, or vista
[00:53] <loganlee> windows 8 is cool
[00:53] <riddrib> Well you need Antivirus in Windows
[00:54] <elkng> tool "ps" shows there are 28 processes of web browser "lynx" like: "8579  8636 0 0 [lynx] <defunct>", so they consume 0 memory but they still  in list of processes, what are they ? whereas regular ones are shown as: "17132 29558 7428 4440 lynx http://www.google.com"
[00:54] <loganlee> <- runs windows 8
[00:54] <ben941> guideX: the first one talks about how to upgrade from LTS versions, the 2nd link has the command I mentioned w/ the attribute to leave out install recommendations....  this would not leave out your php, mysql, apache, etc.... not basic stuff that is included w/ server distros....   it would only leave out things like the unity software and digital
[00:54] <ben941> media purchasing, libreoffice, etc... mostly GUI applications - you can always install the packages seperately if you find you need something, and that way you will get the latest version for the 13.x distro as well
[00:54] <loganlee> !bill gates
[00:54] <Zync> well i installed ubunto from a pen flash drive
[00:55] <loganlee> i like ronaldo
[00:55] <Zync> and did all the req partitions, for / ; /home and the swap one
[00:55] <ben941> zync: you likely need to go into the grub interface and check your partitions to make sure you have an ntfs partition that is bootable
[00:55] <guideX> cool thanks ben
[00:55] <riddrib> When you learn everything in ubuntu ,gnu/linux, you never go back to window
[00:55] <Zync> how do i go into the grub interface??
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> !grub | Zync
[00:56] <deadweasel> how do you run a .run file? it's shell install script...  i think.  for AMD drivers.
[00:56] <guideX> riddrib: I disagree.. as a developer, I find it that I need both linux and windows
[00:56] <guideX> and to a lesser extent, mac
[00:56] <guideX> just for dev purposes...
[00:56] <ubuntuaddicted> and with todays hardware you can run them all on 1 machine at the same time.
[00:57] <guideX> for instance.. someone says "your website doesn't work/look good on a mac", best way is to boot up your mac and look at it
[00:57] <ben941> Zync: i'm still fairly new with unix commands and forget the exact commands - i'd suggest following ubottu's link.  to copy and paste commands when following a tutorial saves times even if you already know the command or not
[00:57] <TheNewGuy> is there a nice youtube tutorial or pdf where I can learn the basic file system on a linux?
[00:57] <max3> hey does anyone in here speak marathi? can you tell me what this says? तु कीती चावट आहेस वेडया. यूगानडा सारखे संङास चालतील काय़. मासे मारायला अपण एकदा गेल पाहीजे.
[00:57] <guideX> or boss says "I want a crossplatform app, will run on ipad and android", that'll take a mac and android...
[00:57] <Zync> the *thing is im currently on win7
[00:57] <loganlee> deadweasel: chmod +x runfile && ./runfile
[00:57] <Zync> the ubuntu didn't work
[00:57] <riddrib> I understand you is developer but the regular client no need a both operating system
[00:58] <michael87> I came back from windows 7 myself. Still tryying to decide if I like ubuntu 13.04 better yet. though things are faster in ubuntu then before it is still a pain to customize the freaken windows. Least now I know how to color the annoyying toolbar above. always been drawn to linux don't know why. but games are a pain. Even emulation appearently. since dreamcast is having issues with me
[00:58] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, every linux filesystem structure is slightly diffeent
[00:58] <daftykins> deadweasel: chmod +x and then ./blah.run
[00:58] <ben941> I agree with guidex.... things llike the controversial silverlight refusing to provide support to linux makes windows still necessary if I want to access my netflix account
[00:58] <deadweasel> loganlee: i chmoded already, I'll try again
[00:58] <deadweasel> thanks
[00:58] <Zync> but i want both operating systems
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> max3, http://translate.google.com/
[00:58] <loganlee> ook
[00:58] <guideX> yeah there'll always be a need to have all three (imo)
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Zync, Read the link.
[00:58] <x13> Does anyone know a good Gameboy advance emulator for ubuntu? Tried one with wine but didnt work at all
[00:58] <max3> wilee-nilee: doesn't do marathi
[00:58] <daftykins> deadweasel: of course if it's definitely graphics drivers, 'sudo ./blah.run'
[00:58] <ben941> it is the only thing stopping me from running my media server and htpc boxes from both running linux only
[00:58] <TheNewGuy> I see
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> max3, This is an english ubuntu support channel.
[00:58] <guideX> for me, I must run windows, as .NET pays my rent
[00:59] <max3> lots of people from the indian sub-continent develop
[00:59] <TheNewGuy> is there a text filter feature built into pidgin? i can't keep up with all the chat trying to figure out whos talking to me lol
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> max3, No really, you have no argument here, translating is not on topic.
[01:00] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, people talking to you, it will be different color
[01:00] <ben941> zync: grub is like a partition manager and similar to looking into MBR issues when dealing with windows - for dual boot, you use GRUB and one of the partitions should be NTFS (the partition that has windows on it) and this partition needs to have options set in grub to tell it that it is a bootable partition
[01:00] <x13> Does anyone know a good Gameboy advance emulator for ubuntu? Tried one with wine but didnt work at all
[01:00] <max3> wilee-nilee: i'm not constructing an argument? i was just going for a long shot
[01:00] <ben941> this way each time you start, grub will come up and ask which OS you wish to boot from
[01:00] <TheNewGuy> how so?
[01:00] <loganlee> how to write an interpreter for a text file?
[01:00] <Gnarly> visualboyadvance always worked for me
[01:00] <guideX> x13: you could run the windows one in wine
[01:00] <Zync> i used easy bcp for that
[01:00] <x13> guideX: tried that didnt work
[01:00] <TheNewGuy> "TheNewGuy, people talking to you, it will be different color" is the same color as other chats
[01:01] <TheNewGuy> black
[01:01] <guideX> hmm
[01:01] <ben941> guidex, he just mendioned wine
[01:01] <ubuntuaddicted> max3, can't you use google translator
[01:01] <guideX> ah ok missed that part
[01:01] <x13> would sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance work?
[01:01] <max3> ubuntuaddicted: it's not hindi it's marathi so no
[01:01] <zykotick9> x13: mednafen is a multi-system terminal emulator that does GBA
[01:01] <guideX> when you say it didn't work, what did you mean
[01:01] <ubuntuaddicted> max3, can't help you then
[01:01] <michael87> can anyone help me in emulating dreamcast on my ubuntu laptop? I installed lxdream and it is very laggy. tried demul in crossover/wine and crashed
[01:02] <guideX> max3: there's irc tools which have built in translators too
[01:02] <ben941> x13: if visualboyadvnace is a debian/linux package then yes it should work
[01:02] <x13> guideX: it simply would not do it
[01:02] <servvs> okay so the upgrade to 13.04 trashed my desktop
[01:02] <moseymosey> is there a specific channel for discussing ubuntu server?
[01:02] <x13> zykotick: do you have terminal command for downloading. and by multi-system what do you mean?
[01:02] <loganlee> deadweasel: try run from sudo
[01:02] <servvs> I was using gnome shell 3.6 and now it won't even load up a desktop at all through GDM if I have gnome shell installed
[01:02] <guideX> x13: No$GBA with wine?
[01:02] <guideX> have you tried it?
[01:03] <ben941> multisystem = cross platform
[01:03] <deadweasel> i did loganlee
[01:03] <servvs> after using apt-get remove gnome-shell it loads GDM and I can log in to a broken Unity
[01:03] <b4ulook4me> Hi all
[01:03] <deadweasel> i'm about to --force.. should I not loganlee ?
[01:03] <x13> ben941: indeed but which platforms
[01:03] <servvs> anyone else having any issues after upgrading to 13.04 from 12.10?
[01:03] <x13> guideX: yes tried it and the wine that i have wouldnt work
[01:03] <guideX> servvs: i'm upgrading right now
[01:03] <guideX> it says "fetching files"
[01:04] <servvs> Well, if you are upgrading to use the new gnome-shell then don't it breaks everything when you try to install it
[01:04] <ben941> x13: apparently he is saying it works in windows and linux environments...  I would suggest trying to find one natively compatible in linux...  running things in wine is not always reliable to access graphics acceleration, etc
[01:04] <guideX> hmm I was hopeing to see the new unity
[01:04] <guideX> it uses gnome again?
[01:04] <ben941> guideX: what do you mean?
[01:04] <guideX> I found that in 12.10 the gnome shell didn't do gnome2 justice
[01:05] <servvs> I don't know what unity uses, I just know my desktop is all glitched out right now
[01:05] <guideX> so I switch to xfce
[01:05] <guideX> hmm
[01:05] <servvs> I was using Gnome 3.6 gnome shell and now everything is broken
[01:05] <TheNewGuy> is C or C++ installed by default?
[01:05] <ben941> guideX: unity is based on gnome desktop with minor customizations as far as i'm aware
[01:05] <guideX> oh didn't know that
[01:06] <servvs> not sure how to fix it, I've removed all of my  desktops and reinstalled them and everything is messed up. Either it won't load or there are graphical glitches
[01:06] <x13> ben941:any suggestions I am downloading Visual boy advance right now to try
[01:06] <mega1> is there any way to get a logon script from active directory
[01:06] <guideX> I wouldn't think so
[01:06] <ben941> serws: you have multiple desktop interfaces to choose from....  this is to install a GUI on a server:  but it applies to installing a different GUI desktop in place of unity as well http://askubuntu.com/questions/2093/how-to-install-gui-desktop-on-a-server
[01:07] <servvs> well yeah I know that, but it broke gnome shell for me and thats what Ive been using for the past year
[01:07] <zykotick9> !info mednafen
[01:07] <zykotick9> x13: see above.
[01:07] <servvs> Probably going to have to go with another distribution entirely if I can't get it to work
[01:07] <guideX> mega1: check this link http://www.centrify.com/directcontrol/group-policy-for-linux-desktops.asp
[01:07] <guideX> for group policy stuff
[01:08] <zykotick9> x13: fyi, the new version support Genesis and Playstation (experimental) as well, not sure if that version has made it too ubuntu yet.
[01:09] <konam> on windows i can do alt+170 and get this sign: ¬    i'm used to having it because many of my keyboards (spanish) have it integrated but english kb don't. is there a way to get this sign on an english kb without having to copy and paste it all the time?
[01:09] <x13> zykotick9: so how do i get it?
[01:09] <guideX> konam: check in #windows maybe
[01:09] <zykotick9> x13: how do you normally install things in ubuntu?  same way.
[01:10] <daftykins> konam: english keyboards do.
[01:10] <konam> guideX i want to know how to do it on linux, not windows
[01:10] <pcmu> konam, install the US-English international layout
[01:10] <guideX> oh ok
[01:10] <loganlee> konam: look up unicode table
[01:10] <konam> daftykins where, i'm on a english kb now
[01:10] <daftykins> UK-english has it as shift+(the one to the left of #1 on the top row)
[01:10] <daftykins> if you mean US english then i have no idea :D
[01:11] <x13> zykotick9: sudo apt-get install mednafen?
[01:11] <konam> daftykins yep, US
[01:11] <pcmu> the us international layout has ¬ with AltGr+\
[01:11] <loganlee> hey guys how to write an interpretor for text file?
[01:11] <zykotick9> x13: perhaps mednafen isn't a good suggestion for you, it's terminal based...  and you'd probably have to read some documentation... best of luck.
[01:12] <konam> pcmu stupid laptop doesn't have altgr.... just left and right alt
[01:12] <x13> zykotick9: there is nothing simple that i can just open then open the roms?
[01:12] <x13> or disc images
[01:13] <donvito2> is there a way to disable that keyring that asks me for password everytime i open something?
[01:13] <loganlee> donvito2: i got that as well.... before i installed win 8 over it
[01:13] <loganlee> i dont even know what keyring is
[01:13] <loganlee> -_-
[01:13] <daftykins> password storage
[01:13] <loganlee> oh... huh?
[01:14] <pcmu> konam, neither does my notebook keyboard, right alt does it for me
[01:14] <donvito2> so how to disable that function?
[01:15] <Kawata> whoa
[01:15] <pcmu> donvito2, you can set your default keyring password as blank
[01:15] <Kawata> they brought 3 more floodbots
[01:15] <donvito2> pcmu how?
[01:16] <pcmu> launch the 'passwords and keys' app
[01:16] <balls> is bash possible for everything or can it not do stuff that some GUI programs can do
[01:17] <balls> for example changing a setting for the OS
[01:17] <lindar> ?
[01:17] <pcmu> dovito2: in that app you can see your keyrings, you can right click the one called 'Default' and change its password to blank
[01:17] <lindar> Hej, so I'm having a fair amount of trouble here. I am on Ubuntu 13 and connected properly to my wireless router. Another computer I have would also connect to this same wireless router, but was running Windows 8. I just installed Ubuntu 13 on it and it *will not connect* to the router.
[01:17] <balls> like is it always in the shell or not alwats
[01:17] <ShadowNinja> balls: It can do everything :-)
[01:17] <balls> not always*
[01:17] <bazhang> balls, try in #bash
[01:18] <balls> in windows not everything is in the shell , some stuff you have to only go in the GUI settings
[01:18] <lindar> I have tried getting it to connect where the router has no password and is completely open.
[01:18] <balls> is linux like this ever?
[01:18] <lindar> It still will diddle for a bit, think about it, and then fail to connect.
[01:18] <balls> hi baz didnt expecpt to see you here
[01:18] <TheNewGuy> Hey guys I'm having an issue with changing my IP address
[01:18] <balls> im not sure where to start with linux
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> whenever I do ifconfig eth0 192.168..... netmask..., i lose connection
[01:19] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, what do you want to change it to? what's the problem
[01:19] <KawaBOT> Hey.
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> well.. i want to change it to 192.168.1.1
[01:19] <balls> I need to learn bash whatever its called right?
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> but it seems that anything I change it to, it will lose connectino to the outside world
[01:19] <ShadowNinja> balls: No, a GUI is little more than a wrapper for the command, although some applications are designed to only work with a GUI.
[01:19] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, do you have a router that hands out IP's?
[01:19] <balls> or is there something before that I have to learn
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> yea
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> lindar, Post the wireless hardware info, lspci will tell you or lsusb if a usb.
[01:19] <KawaBOT> Hey.
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> i have a at&t router, and then a host windows 7 and then the ubuntu vm
[01:20] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, what's your router's IP, most likely 192.168.1.1
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> its actually 254
[01:20] <balls> obvioustly the GUI has a program but I mean shell commands here of any shell
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> .254
[01:20] <balls> not programming syntaxes
[01:20] <lindar> wilee-nilee: I should also make mention of the fact that it *will* connect to other routers, just not this one in particular.
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> everytime I reset my vm, it grabs 192.168.1.87
[01:20] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, what OS again?
[01:20] <lindar> Namely it will connect to my phone's hotspot.
[01:20] <balls> those are two different things
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> ubuntu
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> guest is ubuntu
[01:20] <JesseH> linux
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> host is windows 7
[01:20] <ben941> balls: GUI only sends commands to the shell aka command line interface
[01:20] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, version
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> the new one lol
[01:20] <balls> where do I start with linux development
[01:21] <JesseH> balls, kernel dev 101
[01:21] <TheNewGuy> how do i checck?
[01:21] <ben941> balls: everything can be done through command line, that is why ubuntu server has no desktop environment
[01:21] <balls> im trying ubuntu again but its too much for the memory
[01:21] <KawaBOT> Hey.
[01:21] <balls> so I have to get a lite version of it
[01:21] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:21] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:21] <ben941> balls: linux DEVELOPMENT or learning how to use and set up linux?
[01:21] <FloodBot1> KawaBOT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:21] <balls> development
[01:21] <Kawata> oh great
[01:21] <JesseH> He likes big booties O.o
[01:21] <Kawata> the bot's fucked in the head
[01:21] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:21] <TheNewGuy> lol
[01:22] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:22] <balls> he will not go to heaven
[01:22] <balls> defo not
[01:22] <JesseH> OH SHIT
[01:22] <ben941> balls: use the server distro of ubuntu if you don't have enough memory
[01:22] <JesseH> Picis GOTS OP EVERYONE RUN
[01:22] <JesseH> oh
[01:22] <loganlee> lol its case sensitive
[01:22] <balls> wont that require more ram?
[01:22] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9041 NetGear, Inc. WNA1000m 802.11bgn [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[01:23] <balls> i heard one called ubuntu ltxf or something
[01:23] <JesseH> :c unfair my op man
[01:23] <JesseH> mr*
[01:23] <balls> it was liter than ubuntu desktop 13.4
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> lindar, needs a wrapper and driver if realtek most likely, that's all I know.
[01:23] <balls> brb
[01:23] <ben941> balls: server distros are command line interface only, no GUI and no desktop - just the shell (many people only understand this as DOS command prompt.... that is essentially a microsoft shell/command line interface)
[01:23] <balls> oh id like the GUI too
[01:23] <ben941> balls: server distros do NOT take more memory - as they do not run a desktop or any GUI
[01:23] <balls> so I can see the results
[01:24] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Really? Cos it worked on everything I've tried except the router that's hooked up to my home internet.
[01:24] <ben941> balls: if you want to learn linux and linux development - you don't want the GUI....
[01:24] <agu10^_> hello
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> lindar, In linux?
[01:24] <balls> how come?
[01:24] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Yes, after I installed Ubuntu 13.
[01:24] <balls> how do you see your results
[01:24] <balls> with out gui and everything in it
[01:24] <ben941> balls: because it passes commands to the shell, and does the same thing you can do in the command line interface - only you DON;T see the results
[01:24] <agu10^_> I run a command sed -i '$ a\some line' * ... and now all my files, when opened in vim, have ^M after each line. What is ^M ???
[01:25] <balls> id like to see the results lol
[01:25] <bazhang> balls, did you have any actual ubuntu support questions? this is not the general bash/linux chat channel
[01:25] <ben941> balls: most packages and commands have special flags like -V for verbose or print to output additional results
[01:25] <balls> errors dont always determine what you are wanting to achive
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> lindar, All I could do is google the info, so I'm not much help in this.
[01:25] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Yeah, Google wasn't much help in this case.
[01:26] <ben941> balls: for example, if you install a package using the shell - it still shows all the information as it installs... the server it downloads from, the packages its installing, even the process bar that goes from 0 to 100%
[01:26] <riddrib> the real help is the chat in real time !
[01:26] <ben941> balls: you see none of this using a GUI for the same process
[01:26] <lindar> Anybody else: Got an Ubuntu 13 box that will connect to everything except one particular router, but my Ubuntu 13 laptop connects to the same router just fine, and the box in question connected to said router when it was running Windows.
[01:26] <Mikeasaurus> How long does it typically take to install ubuntu?  Is it a bad sign if its been stuck on "EIP <e19899da>] wl_cfg80211_detach+0xca//0xd0 for like 25+ minutes?
[01:26] <balls> I still want to use it as an OS
[01:27] <balls> for internetnetc however
[01:27] <TheEpTic> Mikeasaurus: yes
[01:27] <bazhang> balls, take this elsewhere please
[01:27] <balls> is there a lite version uf ubuntu that can do this
[01:27] <TheEpTic> Mikeasaurus: By the looks of it, that's a kernal error but I could be wrong.
[01:27] <bazhang> !mini > balls
[01:27] <Mikeasaurus> So turn off PC and start over?
[01:27] <TheEpTic> Worth a try.
[01:27] <balls> i mean for RAM
[01:27] <Mikeasaurus> I'm trying to install from Cd, would installing from usb be better?
[01:28] <ben941> balls: you will also see EVERY error using most programs through the CLI - many of these errors will be ignored by GUI interfaces....  I suggest you install a server distro and not select the LAMP server package on installation choices if you want a light weight installation
[01:28] <TheEpTic> Mikeasaurus: I'd personally perfer CD.
[01:28] <balls> im running it in virtualbox
[01:28] <lindar> Mikeasaurus: Possibly, if your board supports it. That's how I do it because my machines don't have CD drives.
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Sum the iso first a usb is another option.
[01:28] <ben941> balls: you can always install a lightweight desktop ontop of it after....   many desktop environments to choose from : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[01:28] <TheNewGuy> hey
[01:28] <balls> ok thanks brb
[01:28] <loganlee> how do u write an interpreter? guys?
[01:28] <agu10^_> How can I disable all iptables rules? If i run iptables -F, when i reboot, the rules are working again! I just want to remove them forever! Or go back to initial iptables configuration.
[01:29] <loganlee> interpreter of text file
[01:29] <mattwj2002> hi guys I have a general linux/ubuntu question
[01:29] <TheEpTic> agu10^_: I'd just remove iptables all together but I've heard that brakes ubuntu sometimes.
[01:29] <ben941> loganlee: what do you mean by interpreter
[01:29] <TheEpTic> mattwj2002: Fire away
[01:29] <agu10^_> then what can i do?
[01:29] <agu10^_> i do not want any rules but i can't take them off :(
[01:29] <mattwj2002> what blue ray burning tools are available in ubuntu?
[01:29] <Mikeasaurus> my boot orders are 1. floppy disk 2. atapi cd rom 3. +hard drive and 4. network adaptor
[01:29] <mattwj2002> *bluray
[01:30] <Mikeasaurus> would floppy disk be considered usb?
[01:30] <Chris_W_> is there a command to copy files and show progress in the terminal?
[01:30] <loganlee> ben941: write in text file some commands and let interpreter read it and run stuff
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, How big is the ISO?
[01:30] <TheEpTic> agu10^_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-how-to-flush-all-rules.html
[01:30] <Mikeasaurus> 794mb
[01:30] <mattwj2002> I see you can buy burners for like 60 or 70 usd :)
[01:31] <ben941> mikasaurus: you can install from CD, but with USB you can create a live cd that has a swap partition (save your data and runs the entire OS from the usb drive) - a live cd can run the whole OS but will not save settings obviously.   if you want to install it to your MAIN drive and your absolutely positive, just use the CD to install
[01:31] <agu10^_> TheEpTic, can i just paste the commands instead of making a script?
[01:31] <TheEpTic> Sure.
[01:31] <Mikeasaurus> Ok I will try the cd again, thank you.
[01:31] <ben941> mikeasaurus: just hit the key for your boot menu
[01:32] <TheEpTic> agu10^_: I'm not really much of an iptables fan.
[01:32] <agu10^_> ok, i ran all the commands
[01:33] <earthling_> On the recent security updates, it has options for generic kernel header, generic kernel image, or both generic kernel header and image in one file.  Should I disregard the extra header and image? and just choose 1 of each?  My OS version is 12.04,kernel version is 3.5.0-27-generic
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Put the cd first in the bios, or use the per sessikon boot menu. Check that your ISO is md5sum correct.
[01:33] <ben941> mikeasaurus: it should be listed by the key for you to enter bios setup - usually it is delete, f9 f10 or f12... this will allow you to specifically pick boot from CD-rom or boot from USB device
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> or the cd
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > Mikeasaurus
[01:33] <loganlee> how to write an interpreter for script?
[01:33] <Mikeasaurus> Ok thank you
[01:33] <Pici> loganlee: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/also see #bash
[01:34] <ben941> anyone have experience with SnapRAID  OR Greyhole on linux based OS?
[01:34] <loganlee> Pici: it says page not found
[01:34] <mattwj2002> bluray anyone? :)
[01:34] <ben941> loganlee: you can tell his link was broken into two parts
[01:34] <Pici> loganlee:  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:35] <ben941> go down to the part on his link that mentions 'see #bash'
[01:35] <loganlee> Pici: im asking how to write my own interpreter
[01:35] <loganlee> ...
[01:36] <ben941> loganlee: define interpreter in the manner you intend to use it
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps [0x1a] around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps [_-S1L3NC3-_] around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps [deXter] around a bit with a large trout
[01:36] <FloodBot1> Anton2k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps __esz around a bit with a large trout
[01:36] <loganlee> write something in some language in text file then interpreter runs it
[01:37] <ben941> loganlee: you are talking about a script, aka a bash script
[01:37] <loganlee> no not a bash script. my own script
[01:37] <loganlee> ...
[01:37] <loganlee> like reading a conf file
[01:38] <ben941> yes you can write your own bash scripts
[01:39] <Mikeasaurus> ok now when i put the disc in it says "this computer currently has no detected os.  what would you like to do?   1. erase disk and install ubuntu 2. encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security.  3 use lvm with the new ubuntu installation or 4. something else
[01:39] <Mikeasaurus> 1?
[01:39] <loganlee> ...
[01:39] <earthling_> could it be bad to install extra generic header and image files on security update?
[01:40] <ben941> loganlee: http://arachnoid.com/linux/shell_programming.html try glancing over this, and then try searching the official ubuntu wiki and askunbuntu sites for how to write scripts and read input from other files using correct syntax
[01:40] <Pici> loganlee: If you're asking how to write an interpreter in an arbitrary programming language then #ubuntu is not the right place. Try starting in a channel for the language you are writing it in.
[01:40] <loganlee> ok thx
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, This the precise 3.2.0-41 kernel update I had one earlier today no problems.
[01:41] <earthling_> my kernel version is 3.5.0-27-generic  but it keeps giving me update for 3.5 and 3.2
[01:42] <ben941> loganlee: you are simply asking how to write scripts - you can use the bash shell to run a script and write it in simple CLI syntax that will allow ur script to read from files and even run a command and expect a question to come from the command and provide the answer or use --force in the script to ignore any prompts, but you can also 'interpret'
[01:42] <ben941>  information from text files
[01:42] <earthling_> wilee-nilee, did you get 2 sets of generic header and image ?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, If the 3.5 is working remove the 3.2, however most have two kernel sets.
[01:43] <earthling_> those 2 sets are for the 3.5
[01:43] <ben941> mikeasaurus: do you not have another OS installed?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, I did not look close I have never had a bad kernel update.
[01:44] <earthling_> wilee-nilee, the system doesn't mind to have two kernel sets?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, if you don't remove kernels you can ahve as many the HD allows before filling basically.
[01:45] <earthling_> ok, cool
[01:45] <ben941> mikeasaurus : if you have windows installed and are trying to create a dual boot installation....  you do not need to boot from the CD.   you can put the install CD inafter logging into windows, and tell it to install from their - you simply can't run the ubuntu live straight from the CD unless you boot from it
[01:45] <Mikeasaurus> ben941.  I am unsure, its an old laptop I was given and when I tried to turn it on it said something about ntdlr was missing and hit cntrl alt del. I'm assuming it had winxp
[01:45] <loganlee> i bought it from 7/11
[01:45] <loganlee> i ate chinese instant noodle now my stomach is not at ease o_O
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> Windows won't load, no OS will load.  I'm assuming windows is broken or there is no OS
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> And I won't want to dual boot
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> I just want Ubuntu, no windows
[01:46] <ben941> mikeasaurus: in that case, I would go with erase and install, option 1
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> Ok.  Thank you
[01:46] <loganlee> Mikeasaurus: go to bios and change hd boot order
[01:46] <ben941> he doesn't need to
[01:47] <Mikeasaurus> loganlee I'm not having any issues with that
[01:47] <ben941> he has the cd up
[01:47] <loganlee> ook
[01:47] <loganlee> my stomach hurts
[01:47] <loganlee> chinese instant noodle
[01:47] <bazhang> !ot | loganlee
[01:47] <loganlee> ..
[01:47] <ben941> mikeasaurus: when it asks about partitioning: I suggest clicking advance, and selecting GPT instead of MS-DOS
[01:47] <Mikeasaurus> ben941: this is good news, it is already farther installing than it was before
[01:47] <bazhang> loganlee, take the chit chat somewhere else
[01:48] <loganlee> ook srry
[01:48] <Mikeasaurus> Perfect, thank you.  I've never done a ubuntu install all by itself
[01:48] <ben941> mikeasaurus: thats good - it should simply wipe out the hard drive and install a fresh copy of ubuntu for you.   It asks basic set up questions along the way.  Did you have it plugged into internet??
[01:49] <Mikeasaurus> Ya I do
[01:49] <ShadowNinja> Why three floodbots? Isn't one enough?
[01:49] <Mikeasaurus> I'm pretty sure it has a wireless adapter, but ubuntu didn't recognize it so i had to plug it in
[01:50] <ben941> mikeasaurus: great, if you selected the boxes to install updates and install restricted packages (says something about to support mp3, etc) - then you should have an install that also installs the updates for you and all the packages you need to for a fully functional operating system.  Ubuntu works great on low space older pcs as well, glad you fi
[01:50] <ben941> gured it out
[01:51] <wannabe-k> i'm trying to make a bootable usb stick and i'm following the instructions online and its still not working  the step i have issues with is  step 4
[01:51] <ben941> it will likely recognize ur wirless after it installs the operating system
[01:51] <Mikeasaurus> I actually clicked don't install updates just because it froze last time so I wanted to see if it would more basic.  I'm hoping ubuntu has an easy process for updating once its installed
[01:51] <Mikeasaurus> If I remember correctly, it does
[01:51] <ben941> wannabe-k: are you using Lili usb creator?
[01:52] <wannabe-k> start up disk creator
[01:52] <bozonius> how do I make the bacula tray monitor icon show up in the Unity "tray"(?) LTS 12.04?
[01:52] <wannabe-k> like i was told by a friend
[01:52] <wannabe-k> but he's not being very helpful so i came here
[01:52] <fjodor> hi
[01:54] <fjodor> if i open a 720p video on youtube fullscreen i get vsync-errors, lagging screen and so on. i've got 4gb ram and i5-3320M. amd64 ubuntu
[01:55] <ben941> mikeasaurus: yes, the easiest way is to use the terminal to update.  but first I would go into the GUI update manager and go into settings  to add the 'restricted' repositories so you have access to things like mp3 codecs and certain drivers that are not open source
[01:55] <konam> pcmu maybe it's because i have right alt set as the compose key on the keyboard layout options, it enables me to type the "ñ" key with relative ease. and the ñ trumps the logical not sign character so the compose key behavior stays :D
[01:55] <subcool> can some one please help me with my samba..
[01:55] <konam> thanks pcmu
[01:55] <subcool> i just had it working - and then it crapped out
[01:55] <subcool> i have two machines setup on samba , that was working utnil this moring.
[01:55] <Mikeasaurus> Awesome, thanks for your help ben941.  Youve been very helpful
[01:56] <subcool> each machine wants a user and password to access the folders. but- then wont accept the user and pass,
[01:56] <ben941> mikeasaurus: then you would go to the unity menu where you search for programs and type 'terminal', open it  and type "sudo apt-get update" to update the lists of programs available on the repositories, followed by 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to upgrade any applications that have updates available
[01:56] <Mikeasaurus> awesome
[01:57] <loganlee> do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:57] <TheEpTic> !md5sum > TheEpTic
[01:57] <ben941> mikeasaurus: that can confuse some people, as update only refreshes the programs and their versions listed in the repositories,  to actually update the programs you do the "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:58] <Mikeasaurus> Makes sense
[01:58] <pcmu> konam, i too type in spanish frequently. I use "US English international with dead keys" as my layout. It lets me do tildes by pressing AltGr+a, AltGr+e... and ñ as AltGr+n. Pretty handy.
[01:58] <agu10^_> how do i know if my script at /etc/rc.local was run or not? how do i see its output?
[01:58] <ben941> mikeasaurus: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade you to the latest release (13.04 I believe, or 13.10?)   however you may want to stick with the LTS (long term service) release, 12.04 - in that case you would not do the dist-upgrade command
[02:00] <wannabe-k> i'm trying to make a bootable usb stick and i'm following the instructions online and its still not working the step i have issues with is step 4.  i'm using start up disc creator like the page on ubuntu.com says to use
[02:00] <akaSoldats> 8
[02:00] <ben941> installing the regular updates is always good practice, it installs security updates and keeps your program versions up to date.... running dist-upgrade updates the entire operating system, which can sometimes cause issues if you have hardware only supported by the more stable LTS distributions, the latest being 12.04
[02:01] <ben941> wannabe-k use "Lili USB creator"
[02:01] <loganlee> oic
[02:01] <Blue1> !pvr
[02:02] <wannabe-k> where would i get lili from?  its not in the software center
[02:02] <Mikeasaurus> alright ill make sure to do it
[02:03] <konam> pcmu yeah but doesn't it bother you having to press the space key after each apostrophe?
[02:03] <ben941> wannabe-k: Lili USB creator is a program for creating bootable usb sticks with different linux distros.   you can also select one of the built in supported distros from the drop down list or select the iso you downloaded, and you can also choose to add a swap partition so you can run the entire OS off the usb drive and save settings, etc. or just c
[02:03] <ben941> reate a bootable one to install from
[02:03] <wannabe-k> i couldn't select the iso i downloaded originally or i wouldn't have this issue....
[02:03] <wannabe-k> where do i get lili from then?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k lili?
[02:04] <pcmu> konam, yeah a little bit. You can get the apostrophe in a single keystroke by presing AltGr+'
[02:04] <ben941> wannabe-k: it stands for linux live usb... you can find it at http://linuxliveuse.com/en/download
[02:04] <ben941> sorry
[02:04] <ben941> wannabe-k: it stands for linux live usb... you can find it at http://linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[02:04] <wannabe-k> its ok.  i'm just frustrated up to :here: with this.....
[02:05] <ben941> that program makes it very simple...
[02:05] <texla> 12.04..Since install I have 4 extra linux-images showing install in synaptic and also in grub.cfg file...If i unstall all but two of the latest will it also uninstall in grub.cfg file ?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k, THe startup disc creator is in ubuntu how are you using it?
[02:05] <konam> pcmu those are actually two keystrokes :D
[02:06] <wannabe-k> wilee-nilee: i don't know what you're asking.  i'm a linux noob
[02:06] <Minniti> hello good night
[02:06] <pcmu> pcmu IMO modifiers don't count
[02:06] <ben941> just plug in your usb drive, select which drive it is, and you don't even have to download the latest .iso file - if  I remember right it has default ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 to select from - and you can just upgrade once it is installed
[02:06] <pcmu> derp
[02:06] <wannabe-k> which is why i usually have a friend do this for me....but he's apparently busy
[02:06] <konam> but thanks, i've seen that you have to actually give in a little if you want to write in english and spanish without having to change layouts constantly. i think i'll stick with my previous layout, thanks
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k, What is the OS you are in trying to load the usb?
[02:06] <pcmu> no prob
[02:06] <wannabe-k> 12.04 lts
[02:07] <ben941> wannabe-k: www.linuxliveusb.com   and save urself any headache, 12.04 LTS is a default distro it supports, you simply select it from a drop down bar
[02:07] <wannabe-k> yep.  i'm getting there on my other computer....the one i'm trying to reinstall on
[02:09] <ben941> ok, it was a while since I used it but the instructions were really self explanitory, and the most I had to do is see what drive letter my USB drive was... it took care of the rest with step by step instructions.  The swap partition is if you are going to RUN ubuntu from the usb drive, if you are just using it to make bootable and install from, you
[02:09] <ben941>  don't need the swap partition - thats the only part that might be confusing
[02:09] <muteboy> hello
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k, all you have to do is have the startup disc creator see the iso and install, you can have it erase the usb, it needs to be a fat32 partition.
[02:09] <loganlee> hello
[02:10] <muteboy> hi loganlee
[02:11] <wannabe-k> it opened in wine?
[02:11] <Minniti> #otbr
[02:11] <muteboy> i have a question about the different flavors of ubuntu
[02:11] <wannabe-k> chocolate is best
[02:11] <loganlee> muteboy: yeh?
[02:11] <Minniti> HOW I CAN ENTER AN CHANNL
[02:11] <Minniti> ?
[02:11] <loganlee> ?
[02:11] <wannabe-k> ./join <channel>
[02:11] <bwat47> you're in one
[02:11] <muteboy> i run ubuntu regular
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> Minniti /j "channel"
[02:11] <Minniti> thanks Wannabe-k tnx tnx !! ^
[02:11] <muteboy> i would like to try ubuntu studio
[02:11] <Minniti> thnks wilee
[02:11] <Minniti> ^
[02:12] <muteboy> can i dual boot them?
[02:12] <agu10^_> "Once you've downloaded and unpacked upstart, you will need to configure the source tree, build and install it. The main question here is deciding whether or not you want to take the plunge and replace sysvinit immediately, or whether you want to test first." Seriously? I just want to start a server script.
[02:12] <muteboy> oh woops gotta go
[02:12] <muteboy> later!
[02:13] <texla> 12.04..Since install I have 4 extra linux-images showing installed in synaptic and also in grub.cfg file...If i uninstall all but two of the latest will it also uninstall in grub.cfg file ?
[02:14] <bwat47> texla: run sudo update-grub after, that should clean it up automagically
[02:14] <bwat47> texla: actually that gets run automatically after kernel installs/removals anyway afiak
[02:15] <texla> bwat47, OK Thanks
[02:15] <subcool> samba help please
[02:15] <Mikeasaurus> ben941 it never asked about GPT
[02:15] <subcool> the computer is requesting a user and pass, but then dont accept it
[02:16] <ben941> Mikeasaurus: did it say anything about default is MS-DOS
[02:16] <zykotick9> Mikeasaurus: if you aren't dealing with a 3TB+ drive it doesn't _really_ matter
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> no
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> all i did was click install
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> and it installed
[02:16] <ben941> zykotick9 is right
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[02:16] <ben941> it really only matters if you use large hard drives or dual boot instalations
[02:17] <Mikeasaurus> now its been trying to restart for about 2 min.  its on a black screen saying "peech-dispatcher disabled.  asking all  remaining processes to terminate... [ok]
[02:17] <ben941> for an old laptop using just ubuntu, not using GPT for the boot master is fine
[02:17] <Mikeasaurus> frozen?
[02:17] <betrayd> agu10^_: somehow you picked up upstart, that's a serious package
[02:17] <ben941> possibly, but possibly not
[02:18] <agu10^_> betrayd, picked up? that's the way you make startup scripts
[02:18] <ben941> if your laptop is fairly slow, it could just be similar to when you shut down windows - it closes everything first
[02:19] <ben941> what did you download to put on the CD that you installed??
[02:19] <betrayd> the new way that is
[02:19] <betrayd> agu10^_:
[02:19] <Mikeasaurus> 13.04
[02:19] <Mikeasaurus> its old, but its been probably 4+ minutes now
[02:19] <ben941> 13.04 desktop
[02:20] <ben941> if it goes past 10 minutes
[02:20] <ben941> i'd cut the power
[02:20] <ben941> and try reboot
[02:20] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[02:21] <ben941> you could simply have hardware that needs a proprietary driver that linux doesn't natively detect and install and open source driver for - that could cause issues with other processes that try and use that hardware
[02:22] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[02:22] <ben941> however, sometimes it can detect this by itself - for example, i had a linksys wireless N add-in card, and had to plug it in during installation to get internet
[02:22] <ben941> but after rebooting, it told me I had a network interface card that required a proprietary drive
[02:22] <ben941> driver*
[02:24]  * mgodzilla discovers bmon...
[02:24] <mgodzilla> :)
[02:24] <Mikeasaurus> ok cutting power
[02:24] <ben941> i'm glad your install went sucessfully...  I have to head out, but most people on here know much more than I do about Linux troubleshooting....   installing a driver that isn't in the repositories can be tricky but they can help you.   it could also be solved by an update - similar to windows, sometimes it must update some processes and reboot befo
[02:24] <ben941> re the remaining updates are able to be installed
[02:25] <Mikeasaurus> thanks for your help, i really appreciate it
[02:25] <ben941> no problem, did you use the update center program or run the terminal and put in the "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[02:26] <Mikeasaurus> it said something about out of date firmware on the bootup
[02:26] <Mikeasaurus> didnt have time to read it all
[02:26] <rtnb> hi all, fresh install of ubunu 12.04 LTS and my ethernet connection keeps cutting in and out.  Dual boot with windows 7 where its working all fine.  I'm pretty new to linux so I'm kind of stumped.    ANy ideas?
[02:26] <jestillore> hi everyone .. can anyone of you help me setting up pxe server in ubuntu lucid lynx ?
[02:28] <ben941> in that case, updating could possibly help - or it could be the firmware (driver) for a piece of hardware needs to be updated - in which case you would have to go to the manufacturers website to see if they have linux drivers, or search google for 'name of hardware' linux driver to see if an open source driver is available somewhere
[02:28] <jestillore> hi everyone .. can anyone of you help me setting up pxe server in ubuntu lucid lynx ?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> jestillore, You might ask in #ubuntu-server
[02:28] <jestillore> ahy .. sorry .. thanks wilee-nilee ..
[02:30] <ben941> mikeasaurus: this link shows the graphic interface for updates - I would have them all checked except the pre-release one, and if a box pops up in your side bar with a number it means you have updates to install. link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22747/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-10-10-to-11-04
[02:30] <Mikeasaurus> Thanks
[02:31] <SuperBawlz> I'm looking for an application with similar abilities to PGP desktop. Most important is the ability to create an encrypted virtual drive that I can mount in my OS and actively work from.
[02:31] <jrib> !encrypt | SuperBawlz
[02:32] <jrib> SuperBawlz: also see gpg
[02:32] <ben941> mikeasaurus: just use the software sources screenshot for reference - thats what you want to find, and also go under the other software tabs and check anything that says rescricted optional or proprietary - as only open source drivers come pre-installed with ubuntu, you most opt in for anything proprietary
[02:32] <SuperBawlz> Can ubuntu password protect and encrypt directories natively?
[02:33] <loganlee> what's a keyring?
[02:33] <jrib> SuperBawlz: you can enable encryption during install
[02:33] <Mikeasaurus> Ok
[02:35] <X13> So I have tried to find several emulators and i can't seem to get any to work. Does anyone have any ideas?
[02:35] <SuperBawlz> I don't want to do the whole drive and unfortunately I have no desire to re-install.
[02:35] <jrib> SuperBawlz: you don't have to do the whole drive
[02:36] <X13> I am trying to get a gameboy advance emulator and a playstation emulator even an N64 emulator would be cool.
[02:36] <X13> I can do it on windows just cant figure it out on ubuntu
[02:38] <ben941> askubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community are great places to search for your issues as well, they are good about putting step by step instructions and the commands to copy and paste if you need to use the terminal....  example:  this search for out of date driver firmware came up with instructions to update broadcom wifi device drivers as the fi
[02:38] <ben941> rst link: http://goo.gl/kmx2O
[02:38] <ben941> mikeasaurus: ^^
[02:38] <X13> Anyone?
[02:38] <X13> So I have tried to find several emulators and i can't seem to get any to work. Does anyone have any ideas?
[02:39] <ben941> x13: try askubuntu or the official ubuntu forms??   someone else has likely had the same idea and figured it out
[02:39] <X13> ben941: alright then I will give that a try
[02:40] <ben941> x13: visual gameboy advance says it supports linux
[02:40] <ben941> http://vba.ngemu.com/
[02:42] <kostkon> X13, pcsx, mupen64plus both in the repos
[02:42] <X13> ben941: cant seem to get it to work. Tried to open it and it immediately tried to open in wine then failed to open at all
[02:42] <kostkon> pcsxr*
[02:43] <ben941> x13: http://vba.ngemu.com/links.shtml#FrontEnds    you shouldn't need to use wine on something that says it supports linux unless it explicitely states linux support thru wine.... u are not using the linux front end for it
[02:43] <X13> Can I find those in the software center do you think? I feel my software center is limited perhaps because I can't even seem to find the ones I have downloaded before
[02:43] <loganlee> X13: check repository
[02:43] <ben941> x13: here is the linux gnome frontedn : http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gnomeboyadvance/  maybe that will help you figure out where to go
[02:44] <kostkon> X13, actually sorry, you can download pcsxr from here http://pcsxr.codeplex.com/releases/view/50048
[02:44] <ben941> x13: that is unlikely to be in the official respositories.... special software like this, you always have to manually download OR add the projects own repository
[02:44] <kostkon> X13, and mupen64plus an n64 emulator is in the repos
[02:44] <X13> Ok Thankyou all. trying those now.
[02:45] <kostkon> X13, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/mupen64plus/
[02:46] <Mikeasaurus> is there something like ninite.com but for ubuntu?
[02:46] <kostkon> X13, and also check this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/visualboyadvance-gtk/
[02:46] <X13> what does plugin based mean?
[02:46] <agu10^_> How do i make upstart stop my service?
[02:48] <kostkon> X13, i think it can accept different plugins for video, audio etc.
[02:48] <loganlee> has any1 played beneath steel sky on ubuntu?
[02:49] <kostkon> loganlee, why are you asking
[02:49] <loganlee> its a great game
[02:49] <kostkon> loganlee, yeah, it is
[02:50] <BHXSpecter> wonderful doing what some fixed said for the error I got just made the errors worse now....get stuff about debconf version, libgcc1, and more
[02:52] <ben941> x13: for the gameboy advance, i'd check out their downloads at the bottom of the main page: http://vba.ngemu.com/index.shtml to look for the linux build  or on their development page:http://vba-m.com/   ... http://vba.ngemu.com/links.shtml has some good resources including the GNOME front end: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gnomeboyadvance/  
[02:52] <ben941>  and other links they posted which say they have tutorials.
[02:52] <ben941> also project discussion forums might give you some answers http://forums.ngemu.com/vba-m-discussion/
[02:53] <ben941> here is a GBA package for linux mint....  I remember seeing instructions for installing linux mint packages on ubuntu in the ubuntu wiki somewhere - if you installed this package and the Gnome front end you should have the GBA emu set... http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/visualboyadvance
[02:53] <agu10^_> hello! I am running node.js on port 8080 and i have apache to reverse proxy it at a certain domain. However when node.js is down, apache CACHEs the 503. How do I disable that caching?
[02:54] <BHXSpecter> think I will have to reinstall ubuntu yet again.....this the like the third or fourth time for the same error...may have to put Windows back on here :(
[02:54] <agu10^_> BHXSpecter, nothing new under the sun ;)
[02:54] <agu10^_> it happens to almost everybody
[02:55] <ben941> WITHOUT using wine, as well - native linux support for your emulator allows it direct access to the kernel and your hardware, i.e. graphics acceleration
[02:55] <ben941> BHXSpector - Windows is only easier for installing proprietary drivers
[02:57] <BHXSpecter> I have been running Vista on my desktop since it was released and not once had it crash or mess up while in he matter of a year Ubuntu has given me I/O read errors during a security update forcing me to reinstall the whole OS
[02:57] <ben941> BHXSpetor: you might want to check for any errors relating to firmware - this usually means there is hardware on ur system that linux/ubuntu does not support 'straight out of the box' per say, and just like with windows - sometimes you have to go to the manufacturer site to get the proper drivers
[02:58] <c_nick> I created a new user on an existing ubuntu machine using useradd cmd with -s -m options and added to the group of admins i set the password using passwd cmd.. but what i observe is though the user is able to do most when he shuts down it does not shut down rather logs off
[02:58] <c_nick> and by default it opens into existing account on startup.. the user has to switch users and go to his account
[03:00] <ben941> BHXSpetor: it sounds like permissions may be messed up by something you are doing which isn't allowing the system access to directories that the system should likely be the only 'user' able to access - OR esp if using a laptop, you may need to search for linux drivers for 'name of hardware' if you see any 'out of date' or 'firmware' errors
[03:00] <ben941> something you or a program you have set up is doing* to the permissions
[03:01] <kimphill> so both Brasero and Xfburn say ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso is too big to write to a CD - it's 785MB...anyone know a better way to do a fresh install?
[03:01] <BHXSpecter> permissions messed up? everytime this error happens is during the updates the system updater is trying to install and I don't touch anything outside of my Projects folder when I'm programming with Qt Creator
[03:02] <ben941> i must head out, but if you ahve exact error code i suggest using the community.ubuntu.com wiki and official documentation search  as well as the official forums and askubuntu forums - 3 great places to search for information.  many times searching for the exact error you are given comes up with a wiki or post with someone that has a solution
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> kimphill, dvd/usb
[03:04] <ben941> like i said it could be a program too - or it may not be related to permissions and have to do with the firmware (drivers) on ur system not being fully compatible w linux - in the 2nd case there is almost always someone who has found the manufacturer's linux compatible drivers even if they aren't on the main site, or have provided open source drive
[03:04] <ben941> rs that work ---   basically, usually someone else has had your problem and others have already guided them on how to fix it
[03:04] <kimphill> wilee-nilee, sure, ok, guess my question was why didn't they make it fit on a cd in the first place, like their documentation says it should...
[03:05] <BHXSpecter> did all that and tried all the 'fixes' just to get more errors ......my laptop is about six years old so I'm pretty sure every thing in it is compatible with linux
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> kimphill, there are limited downloads, say the net load 30MB. Ubuntu has not fit on a cd for a couple of releases, nothing new here.
[03:06] <ben941> I had an add on card for esata that would only work with linux kernels below 3.0....  we are past 3.6 now.   luckily the forums and official ubuntu wiki pages had exact instructions to modify the drivers so they would work - what I spent a week having a headache over was simple once i knew where to search and I had patched the driver and had the es
[03:06] <ben941> ata card working in less than 20 min
[03:06] <somsip> kimphill: This explains it http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[03:07] <dank101> hai
[03:07] <ben941> BHXSpecter:   just because its old doesn't mean the drivers aren't proprietary...  example, broadcom wifi drivers usually have to be installed by adding a special repository using command line, or downloading the driver and installing manually
[03:07] <dank101> just played tf2
[03:07] <dank101> so satisfying
[03:07] <dank101> all thanks to you
[03:07] <dank101> :D
[03:09] <kimphill> wilee-nilee, ok, got it - thanks very much. Guess it's time I should throw out my old CD-R's now ;)
[03:09] <ben941> BHXSpecter: remember ubuntu has support for MANY devices, but these drivers are open source - some companies that provide linux drivers are horrible at keeping them maintained and thus will give an error saying it won't work with newer ubuntu versions, when in fact simply modifications to the code is all they needed to provide to keep it compatible
[03:09] <ben941>  w/ linux based OS's
[03:10] <BHXSpecter> all this is moot because the errors are concerning all tool updates and their versions.. first error was it couldn't read files when doing apt-get update once that was fixed I now get errors about the version of debconf, autotools, and other dependencies
[03:11] <ben941> BHXSpecter: watch for the errors you get and search for them on the ubuntu community wiki, the ubuntu forums, askubuntu.com, and of course plain google.    if you put the exact text from the error, you're very likely to find the soluction
[03:11] <dank101> whats the best temp mananger on linux
[03:11] <ben941> dependencies is a common issue
[03:12] <loganlee> so....
[03:12] <ben941> if you fixed the read files error - the other errors you mentioned can be fixed by using apt-get install to reinstall those packages .... as apt-get automatically looks for dependencies and isntalls them as well
[03:14] <loganlee> why do u need aptitude if u have apt-get?
[03:14] <ben941> installing things using deb installer or other methods of installation doesn't always check the repository for dependencies and version conflicts....   i'm sure someone on here with more knowledge of those packages you listed can easily help you fix ur problem, or you can likely find the answer on the ubuntu wiki, forum, askubuntu, or google by typ
[03:14] <ben941> ing in those packages and 'version dependencies error'
[03:15] <ben941> you don't need aptitude.... there are many different 'packages' to handle installing from a repository
[03:15] <loganlee> ?
[03:15] <ben941> codes like wget (http adress) then make install
[03:15] <ben941> simple downloads what you tell it to from the site and installs it
[03:15] <BHXSpecter> I did sudo apt-get -f install and it spits out errors about libgcc1 ... and now the whole system has locked up so I can't install programs or anything
[03:15] <loganlee> BHXSpecter: reboot
[03:16] <ben941> you forced an install
[03:16] <ben941> when it had errors about depending on other packages that were not on ur system
[03:16] <ben941> so it forced the install, and then ceased to work
[03:17] <BHXSpecter> yeah because that was the first step of several of the solutions I found while searching...to force an install as it would install all dependencies but instead it just made more errors
[03:17] <ben941> there is also the dpkg -i (file.deb) way to install
[03:18] <ben941> when you just tried to install with the -f what came up?
[03:19] <BHXSpecter> tons of dependency errors
[03:20] <ben941> loganlee: basically there are several ways to install a package - apt-get i believe uses aptitude, there is apk-get, etc ,etc....   synaptic package handler, debian installer, etc... they all use different methods to install and are all seperate programs that handle installation.... some are better than others and search for potential problems like
[03:20] <ben941>  dependencies needed to be installed and versions needed to be updated
[03:20] <ben941> bhxspector: did you do sudo apt-get update first to update your repository listings?
[03:21] <ben941> sudo apt-get update updates the list of packages - then you run sudo apt-get upgrade to actually update those packages youhave installed that are out of date
[03:21] <dank101> what OS is this channel about
[03:21] <dank101> a.winders
[03:21] <dank101> b.windows
[03:21] <dank101> c.mac
[03:21] <ben941> you should run both the update and upgrade commands and then try your installation using apt-get install
[03:21] <FloodBot1> dank101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <dank101> d. Ubuntu
[03:22] <ben941> all of the above stop spamming
[03:22] <BHXSpecter> I wiped the lists directory, cleaned apt-get, dpkg --configure -a, apt-get update, and everything goes fine, but when system updater comes up it says 114 updates and upon telling it to install it crashes with dependency errors everytime
[03:23] <ben941> have you tried not using the GUI system updater
[03:23] <ben941> and just running sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <ben941> after the apt-get update
[03:23] <ben941> also why dpkg --configure?
[03:24] <BHXSpecter> was part of the solution for the read error I got originally
[03:24] <ben941> dpkg is an installer for debian packages (.deb) which apt-get can handle... it is what i was mentioning when using dpkg to install it doesn't check for dependencies
[03:24] <ben941> ok thats understandable
[03:24] <ben941> you may have installed the fix for the read error
[03:25] <BHXSpecter> laptop battery is about to die, I'll worry about it later or just go back to vista
[03:25] <ben941> but if you had installed it usign the apt-get, it would have checked to make sure you had the dependencies
[03:25] <ben941> I would install the same package
[03:25] <ben941> using sudo apt-get
[03:25] <ben941> instead of dpkg
[03:25] <ben941> as then it will check for dependencies and install them as well
[03:26] <ben941> also try running sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal instead of using the update program
[03:26] <ben941> see if it makes a difference
[03:26] <ben941> good luck
[03:26] <BHXSpecter> I'll try everything when I get a chance to charge my battery again....I got it working each time before I'm sure I can again :) thanks for the help :)
[03:26] <ben941> also never go back to vista - it is windows 7 before it was finished :)
[03:27] <dogface> ben941: what
[03:28] <ben941> windows vista had notorious issues - i stuck with xp.   when windows 7 came out I was afraid of these same issues.... but windows 7 can be viewed as what vista SHOULD have been if they took the time to finish it
[03:28] <BHXSpecter> I hear that a lot, but Vista has been more stable than any Windows OS I've used....wife swears by Windows 8 but I won't touch that one
[03:28] <ben941> i wouldn't touch windows 8 either
[03:28] <servvs> so I am unable to make any of my  window manager themes work properly, the only ones I can get to work are the ones that ship with metacity and metacity-themes from the repos, is there something I am doing wrong?
[03:29] <slartybartfaster> Windows 8 is pretty much pointless unless you have a touch device.
[03:29] <ben941> its a touchscreen OS layered over a windows 7 desktop environment
[03:29] <ben941> it is basically 2 OS
[03:29] <BHXSpecter> yeah she only uses it for browsing
[03:29] <dogface> ben941: you mean like ubuntu unity over gnome
[03:30] <ben941> the metro crap for touch screen doesn't even run the same programs - it uses 'apps', the desktop uses programs... so you have 2 internet explorers - the APP for the tile screen, and the program for the desktop mode
[03:30] <BHXSpecter> I just use it on my desktop to play games so I don't have to worry about emulator lag
[03:30] <ben941> no i just mean they had to release 2 service packages just to make vista stable
[03:30] <ben941> windows 7 looked like vista - but it was everything vista promised.... the polished version simply renamed, if you will
[03:31] <slartybartfaster> I think the only real reason I ever moved on from XP was because Direct X support got dropped.
[03:31] <BHXSpecter> ben941 don't worry I do all my programming in ubuntu....just blowing off steam...I'll figure a fix or just reinstall after I back up my code :) I'm off..only got 19 minutes left on battery
[03:31] <ben941> i'm off tooo
[03:31] <ben941> good luck to you
[03:31] <BHXSpecter> thanks
[03:32] <ben941> i moved on from xp just bc windows 7 had new features and it wasn't a POS like vista ended up being
[03:32] <acoleman1981> i love windows 7 but vista was horrible
[03:32] <ben941> it had the robustness and speed of XP, with the new layout and features promised in vista .... only they actually worked and supported the hardware
[03:32] <acoleman1981> 8 pro is really nice too
[03:32] <somsip> And...windows chat is very OT
[03:33] <dogface> ben941: vistA is better than u
[03:33] <dank101> i would like to report
[03:33] <ben941> 8 is just windows RT (the tablet windows) and windows 7 desktop underneath
[03:33] <acoleman1981> basically yes your right, still nice though
[03:33] <dank101> dogface, is going the OPPOSITE of what ubuntu stands for
[03:33] <dank101> sending me insulting curses
[03:34] <ben941> on top of that, the start screen with tiles uses apps vs the programs that desktop uses
[03:34] <ben941> resulting in an IE app and an IE program
[03:34] <somsip> !OT | please stop the windows chat now
[03:34] <ben941> no one was asking about ubuntu
[03:34] <dank101> and generally breaking what ubuntu stands for
[03:34] <ben941> dank is just complaining
[03:34] <dank101> haha
[03:34] <dank101> not to you
[03:34] <ben941> if we are not interupting requests for help
[03:34] <ben941> why complain?
[03:34] <dank101> to dogface
[03:34] <ben941> i'm out anyways
[03:35] <dank101> he's being a jerk
[03:35] <somsip> !guidelines | ben941
[03:35] <dank101> he send me these Pms
[03:35] <ben941> somsip: that doesn't address my logic and reasoning
[03:35] <somsip> dank101: don't post them here. Take complaints to #ubuntu-ops
[03:36] <somsip> ben941: this channel is for ubuntu support. Simple as that. Any other chat belongs somewhere else. Kindly adhere.
[03:36] <ben941> somsip: an empty chat is an empty chat, if we are not interupting the guidelines and i've been helping people for hours with ubuntu support, there is no harm discussing windows when no one is talking regardless of ANY guidelines
[03:36] <ben941> that is simple logic sir
[03:36] <ben941> have a nice day
[03:37] <somsip> ben941: this channel is for ubuntu support. It really is as simple as that. Enjoy your day
[03:37] <b0b0b0> anybody know how to turn off ubuntu offering to update to 13.whatever for a ubuntu install I did for a noob
[03:37] <b0b0b0> so he doesnt click it again?
[03:38] <edsiper> how can i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 using the ISO or CDROM ?
[03:38] <b0b0b0> download it and burn the iso to cdrom?
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> b0b0b0, software sources has a choice of every release or none or lts
[03:38] <b0b0b0> okay wille
[03:39] <b0b0b0> im suprised it asked him to upgrade to 14
[03:39] <b0b0b0> 13
[03:39] <b0b0b0> isnt it still in beta?
[03:39] <b0b0b0> or is it final now
[03:39] <FloodBot1> b0b0b0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <b0b0b0> oh, i see its supposedly ready.  well  not on his pc, laugh
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> b0b0b0, no released, the updates tab is where our headed in software sources.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> your*
[03:39] <b0b0b0> okay
[03:40] <b0b0b0> ill have to go to his house and disable it
[03:40] <b0b0b0> now hes afraid to update even security updates..
[03:45] <nullby7e> the new ubuntu is really best
[03:45] <MrGizmo757> i have a Q.  i have a dozen .WMV videos.  i want to convert them to H.264 MP4.   is there an easy way to do that?  or do i have to run each of them through a video editor?
[03:45] <somsip> MrGizmo757: what are you using to convert them?
[03:46] <MrGizmo757> Well nothing yet.  i was going to just use OpenShot and just render them one by one.  but there has to be a better way right?
[03:46] <izya_ppp> ggg
[03:46] <izya_ppp> приветы
[03:47] <th0r> MrGizmo757: I use AVIDemux for those conversions
[03:47] <somsip> MrGizmo757: I've not worked with WMV, but ffmpeg and mencoder are both commandline video converters. So you could use them with wildcards perhaps, or a small bash script to loop through all WMVs and convert each one. Might take longer than using Openshot to set up though
[03:47] <qin> nullby7e: man ffmpeg; for i in *; do [ffmpeg command]; done;
[03:47] <qin> nullby7e: http://superuser.com/questions/73529/how-to-convert-wmv-to-mp4
[03:48] <MrGizmo757> ok. well i don't have any issues with using the command line.    Which method would be the fastest you think?
[03:49] <somsip> MrGizmo757: well, qin has just found the ffmpeg command and given you a bash loop to do it. So maybe that's the starting point
[03:49] <MrGizmo757> yes i  just saw that. Thanx qin
[03:50] <qin> MrGizmo757: just make copy of files in one folder for mistake purposes
[03:50] <Fudge> how on a server imgae can you get a live prompt?
[03:50] <Fudge> image
[03:50] <Fudge> I know you can get a rescue prompt but dont know how to go from busybox into a root bash shell
[03:50] <MrGizmo757> well i have a back up of all these on an external drive. so i'll be ok if i mess up.
[03:52] <izya> ddd
[03:52] <izya> Ребята,забыл пароль на ник,как восстановить?
[03:52] <agu10^_> I restarted my machine and now the DNS is not working
[03:52] <agu10^_> what could be the issue?
[03:53] <somsip> !ru | izya
[03:53] <quem> hmmm...
[03:53] <quem> i see cyrillic all over.
[03:53] <qin> agu10^_: does: ping 8.8.8.8; works?
[03:53] <lousygarua> quem, someone just redirected a user to the #ubuntu-ru channel, thus characters
[03:54] <agu10^_> yes
[03:54] <agu10^_> qin, yes it does
[03:54] <quem> is there a swedish ubuntu channel too?
[03:54] <lousygarua> quem, sure
[03:54] <quem> norwegian? danish? icelandic?
[03:54] <agu10^_> qin, i'm talking about my DNS server, which i am running
[03:54] <somsip> !se | quem
[03:54] <lousygarua> quem, i think it's #ubuntu-se, there's a channel for every loco
[03:54] <quem> nice.
[03:54] <qin> agu10^_: What DNS are defined in your router?
[03:54] <quem> hooray.
[03:54] <somsip> quem: this one tends to have more traffic. YMMV
[03:54] <quem> what's the basque one called? -eu?
[03:54] <agu10^_> qin, what router? i'm using google's
[03:54] <quem> !eu
[03:54] <agu10^_> and I'm running bind9, qin
[03:55] <quem> !ba
[03:55] <izya> tryer
[03:56] <qin> agu10^_: oh...
[03:56] <somsip> quem: full list http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/03/
[03:57] <quem> thank you somsip
[03:59] <quem> raring ringtail has given me back hope in ubuntu.
[03:59] <izya> edrfsdf
[03:59] <izya> Хелп ми
[03:59] <quem> yes, edrfsdf, izya
[04:00] <izya> im lose my pass
[04:00] <clu3> guys, when i connect my ubuntu box to a projector, only the desktop backgound & the sidebar is shown , the applications (powerpoint, browser) won't show at all, they are all transparent. What should i do?
[04:00] <izya> where backup password irc ubuntu-ru ??
[04:01] <djmatrix> hello people
[04:04] <rhg135> please help with this a10-4600M with radeon hd 7600, no drivers seem to let me choose which to use
[04:05] <zwindl> hello
[04:05] <zwindl> anyone here
[04:05] <zwindl> 有中国的吗
[04:05] <lee__> hi,guys.   I have a function in bashrc  . but I can't call it as root ? How to solve the problem
[04:06] <hellokevin> exit
[04:06] <qin> lee__: more precise?
[04:07] <qin> lee__: do you have sudo access?
[04:07] <kimphill> !jp | zwindl
[04:09] <rhg135> nobody knows? i don't mind running the 7600 but it does drain the battery considerably
[04:10] <lee__> qin, yes.  I can call it with sudo access .I switch to root .it's invaliable
[04:13] <qin> lee__: edit cron via sudo with @reboot option and use bash to detect user login
[04:13] <qin> lee__: or upstart, what function?
[04:15] <lee__> qin, function foo { echo  "example" }
[04:16] <qin> lee__: and... above looks like alias
[04:19] <Guest16628> so
[04:19] <Guest16628> so
[04:20] <TXRoadkill> Anyone having problems with Ubuntu 13.04 and media applications?
[04:21] <TXRoadkill> I installed 13 last night, and now VLC won't launch, and Rhythmbox won't play internet streams
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> TXRoadkill, Run vlc in the terminal and look for errors. Did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:28] <TXRoadkill> Except for installing KDE, I'm using a generic version of 13.04
[04:28] <TXRoadkill> and I'm not using KDE as the interface
[04:29] <TXRoadkill> I'm using Unity.  Keeping as generic as possible
[04:29] <lee__> qin, the problem is :there is a function named foo() in the ~/.bashrc ,but when you switch to root with  command su    ,you can't  call  the  foo() functions
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> TXRoadkill, Install the restricted extras for additional codecs, and report errors on vlc if needed.
[04:29] <TXRoadkill> Everything was working fine until I upgraded to 13.04 yesterday
[04:30] <TXRoadkill> it's not just VLC
[04:30] <TXRoadkill> Rhythmbox is broken also
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> TXRoadkill, Upgrades can be problematic on occasion.
[04:30] <TXRoadkill> it would appear ;)
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> Just wondering is anyone else had had the problem
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> couldn't find anything with a Google search
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> but they just offered the general release yesterday
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> probably should have waited for the bugs to get sorted out
[04:31] <somsip> lee__: use /etc/bash.bashrc which applies to all users?
[04:32] <somsip> lee__: other possible solutions depending on what you're wanting to do http://serverfault.com/questions/177699/how-can-i-execute-a-bash-function-with-sudo
[04:35] <Mikeasaurus> im installing some ninite aps, one of which is "restricted extras" and it has been installing for over 2 hours...is there anyway to see how big the file is or see if my computer is just frozen?
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, In the restricted apps is an accept fro ms fonts, ninite must have a gui or terminal tight?
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> for*
[04:41] <Mikeasaurus> yes
[04:41] <Mikeasaurus> it has a terminal
[04:41] <lee__> somsip, it woks.thx
[04:43] <anj> hi
[04:43] <Mikeasaurus> in terminal it just says "installing restricted extras..." but gives me no additional info
[04:43] <anj> hello
[04:43] <anj> please
[04:43] <anj> is there anyone to help me
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Look around for a popup to accept the msfonts
[04:43] <somsip> !ask | anj
[04:45] <Mikeasaurus> Thank you wilee-nilee
[04:45] <lee__> somsip, I find the notify-send  is unavailable  in ubuntu13.04.      notify-send -u critical   "message"    is unavailable as root
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> sure
[04:46] <somsip> lee__: I don't run 13.04 so I can't help you there
[04:47] <qin> lee__: I do not think notify-send should be run with sudo...
[04:52] <budotz> hello, the files /etc/logrotate.d/...say id put another one in there for /var/log/messages ....where do i specify it to run on specific time?
[04:53] <budotz> do i need to put them in /etc/cron.daily/ instead?
[04:54] <josefig> is there a way to boot a machine with the ubuntu installer disk ?
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> josefig, The ISO? the disc is for booting and installing.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> or repairing, do you have a install not booting ? JoseeAntonioR
[04:56] <lee__> qin, notify-send have lots of problems . zenity may be a good solutions
[04:56] <josefig> wilee-nilee: yes but if for some reason the grub is not working and I want to use the ISO disc for booting the already installed ubuntu.. is it possible with the ubuntu installer disk ?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> josefig, ^^
[04:56] <stercor> Where/How do I get -ldl into the make command do include the DSO in the link step?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> josefig, Heh if you were booted to the install and set up a partition for the iso you could boot it.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> with grub
[04:57] <sere> Any ideas why i cant change icons or themes in fluxbox using lxappearance or ubuntu-tweak ..just switches right back to default
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> josefig, You can most likely fix the installs grub with a live cd.
[04:57] <josefig> ok, the ubuntu is already installed but grub is not working, so with the ubuntu installer disk, may I boot the installed ubuntu ?
[04:57] <josefig> wilee-nilee, how do i do that?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !grub | josefig
[04:58] <Mikeasaurus> Hey wilee-nilee are these "restricted extras" drivers by any chance?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Codecs and msfonts
[04:58] <Mikeasaurus> Ok.  is there a way to automatically have ubuntu search for driver updates?
[04:58] <Mikeasaurus> The sound is horrible
[04:59] <alkisg> josefig: press space to invoke the isolinux menu, then tab to edit the command line, and remove "boot=casper" and replace "root=xxx" with "root=/dev/sda1"
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> mikestewart, Drivers for what?
[04:59] <josefig> ok
[04:59] <Mikeasaurus> I guess my soundcard/wireless network card/videocard
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Sound card never heard of any special drivers. What release?
[05:01] <Mikeasaurus> HP Pavilion zv6000
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, What ubuntu release
[05:02] <Mikeasaurus> OH sorry
[05:02] <Mikeasaurus> 13.04
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Look in software updates additional drivers if you have run a update to see if any show. otherwise post what the cards are, from running lspci to find them.
[05:04] <Mikeasaurus> ok thank you
[05:45] <Joanet> Hi all
[05:45] <Joanet> I'm trying to change the login background & logo using Ubuntu-tweak, but no luck. Also, I've copied the files to /usr/shares/backgrounds and repaired the permissions, but still no luck. Can anyone help me? I'm using Edubuntu 12.04 x64
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: hi
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: ubuntu-tweak should be able to change it correctly, i did same for 13.04
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: did you unlock to change background in ubuntu-tweak?
[05:47] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: thanks for your reply. I'm trying to do it and it seems to be ok, but if I reboot it has no change
[05:47] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: yes, I click on the unlock button
[05:47] <Joanet> also i'm using the last version of ubuntu-tweak
[05:48] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: do you know how can I check if ubuntu-tweak has made the change?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: thats weird indeed, are you logged in as root of your system, or another user?
[05:48] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'm using sudo
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: normally if you choose: same background as current in ubuntu-tweak, after reboot it should be changed
[05:49] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: one workmate has tried it using ubuntu and it worked, but in Edubuntu is not working
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: maybe edubuntu uses another way of storing login background, not sure about that
[05:50] <lucido> is there gparted on the current 13.04 install cd? I'd like to boot into live mode and resize and move some partitions before install.
[05:50] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: perhaps Edubuntu has something extra than normal Ubuntu
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: maybe the guys from #edubuntu know it?
[05:50] <alkisg> Joanet: you're not talking about edubuntu ltsp clients, are you?
[05:51] <Joanet> hi alkisg
[05:51] <alkisg> Hi
[05:51] <Joanet> alkisg: no, I'm using the server
[05:51] <alkisg> OK
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> lucido: you can rezise partitions from default install, choosing 'other options'
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> lucido, Yes.
[05:51] <Joanet> after changing the background and logo I want to freeze the user profiles
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: ah you need to do it in root account, to make it change for all users
[05:53] <Joanet> but first of all I want to do this. I think it will be a weirdness but... still no luck changing them
[05:53] <lucido> lotuspsychje, the move and resize is on a partition with 700Gb of data, it isnt empty
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: other tweaks are seperate for each user
[05:53] <lucido> B
[05:53] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'm using the account created on edubuntu setup
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: try in #edubuntu perhaps
[05:55] <Joanet> I tried but no much people, and no replies :( ... although I'll wait patiently :D
[05:55] <Joanet> also I'm looking for forums about it
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: how about you start ubuntu-tweak from terminal, then change the background
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: maybe it will show error
[05:56] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'll try it now... wait a minute
[05:58] <kshenoy> I'm looking for a theme having a dark system bar ( menu bar ). Can someone suggest some good themes for 13.04?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> kshenoy: deviantart and gnome feel.org have loads
[06:01] <RainbowW> is it possible to get rsync to do segmented downloads?
[06:02] <Sanpreet> hello
[06:02] <anshusanand> hello
[06:02] <Sanpreet> tWhats uo
[06:02] <anshusanand> i need some help
[06:02] <Sanpreet> WHats up
[06:02] <Sanpreet> ok
[06:02] <Sanpreet> tell me
[06:02] <kshenoy> lotuspsychje: Ah, I was hoping for some suggestions. But thanks anyway :)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !ask | anshusanand
[06:03] <anshusanand> i would like to know whether ubuntu supports tilera processors
[06:03] <Sanpreet> I donot know
[06:03] <anshusanand> okk
[06:03] <Sanpreet> What do you think
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> kshenoy: you have default ubuntu theme as current right now?
[06:05] <anshusanand> i dont know  ubuntu supports the multicore processor
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> anshusanand: does tilera have 64-bit?
[06:06] <kshenoy> lotuspsychje: yes. But I'm not fond of the orange highlights
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> kshenoy: i used to have dark night theme or something but that long time ago
[06:08] <anshusanand> lotuspsychje: its 32-bit
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !cpu
[06:08] <sduncan> does this sound familiar to anyone: running 12.04, macbook pro 6,2, nvidia driver v310 - display shows only a purple screen, but plays the ubuntu sound when the unity greeter loads (nothing shows however)
[06:10] <histo> !nomodeset | sduncan
[06:10] <histo> anshusanand: you can run ubuntu ona 32bit machine
[06:11] <anshusanand> okk.thanks
[06:11] <sduncan> i've tried nomodeset before, with not much luck. perhaps i'll try again
[06:11] <pyWorks_> does any one know if the #django irc is working, I couldn't get through
[06:11] <histo> !mac | sduncan
[06:11] <jaapio> hi, I have a problem with a network drive that's not mounted during boot
[06:11] <histo> !alis | pyWorks_
[06:12] <Ben64> pyWorks_: i think you need to be registered
[06:12] <histo> jaapio: how are you trying to mount it
[06:12] <jaapio> histo: is in the fstab
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: anything usefull in errors?
[06:12] <pyWorks_> thanks
[06:12] <histo> jaapio: please post your fstab to paste.ubuntu.com so we can take a look
[06:13] <jaapio> the bootlog shows an error: Failed to resolve server
[06:14] <jaapio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628192/
[06:14] <jaapio> but after startup i'm able to mount it with "mount -a"
[06:15] <histo> jaapio: try by ip instead of hostname
[06:15] <histo> jaapio: also it's possible networking isn't up when it try's to mount so you need a mount -a later on in the boot
[06:17] <jaapio> histo: I think that's the case. Since when I get the login screen of KDE I have to wait a minute before I can logon. (Using LDAP from the same server)
[06:17] <th0r> jaapio: do you get prompted for a password when you mount the drive after login?
[06:18] <Mba7eth> guys do you know where can we get help on IRC for sphinx-doc ?
[06:18] <Spaceghost> Hello.
[06:18] <jaapio> th0r: no, its an nfs drive
[06:18] <Spaceghost> I am having a problem and it's this:
[06:18] <Spaceghost> guest-tYzA2S@space-Notebook-PC:~$ LANG=En sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nowrep/qupzilla
[06:18] <Spaceghost> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Spaceghost: login as root, not as guest
[06:19] <Spaceghost> What is the problem?
[06:19] <Spaceghost> I was forced to create a new account because the old had problem.
[06:19] <Spaceghost> lotuspsychje: when I try it through su I have login problems.
[06:19] <Spaceghost> And I don't remember have changed the password.
[06:19] <Spaceghost> What I can do?
[06:19] <Ben64> Spaceghost: well you can't use sudo as guest
[06:19] <qin> Spaceghost: guest = no su, no sudo, period
[06:20] <histo> jaapio: There are other mount options you can use i'm looking into them now.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Spaceghost: did you loose your root login+password?
[06:21] <Ben64> there is no root password
[06:21] <histo> jaapio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125408/mounting-nfs-synchronously-on-boot  This may be of interest to you.
[06:21] <Spaceghost> lotuspsychje: when I put "su" then I put the one password and then it fails.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !su | Spaceghost
[06:21] <Ben64> Spaceghost: you need to log in as your user, guest will not work
[06:23] <jaapio> histo: tnx, I will have a look
[06:24] <histo> jaapio: they are trying to mount /home like you are
[06:25] <SilvereX> How do I install the open-source radeon drivers?
[06:25] <Ben64> !radeon | SilvereX
[06:25] <Ben64> oh you said open source
[06:26] <Ben64> SilvereX: they should already be installed
[06:26] <Mikeasaurus> How do I get Ubuntu to detect my wireless network?  I updated my drivers but im still having problems
[06:27] <histo> Mikeasaurus: What kind of chipset and how did you "update" drivers?
[06:28] <pall> I have a general IRC question, What does it mean that i have to auth to services to join a channel. It asks for a username and password, is this my current login name and password to my box
[06:28] <Mikeasaurus> I guess I did an upgrade, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[06:28] <histo> pall: no you register with nickserv ask in #help
[06:28] <Mikeasaurus>  BCM4306 (rev 3) card
[06:28] <histo> Mikeasaurus: can you pastebin the output of lspci -k
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> pall: no, on this network [freenode] you register a account with email username password
[06:29] <A1Recon> pall: u can set your own username so that it can be used only by u
[06:29] <histo> Mikeasaurus: and sudo iwlist scan
[06:29] <pall> ALL: thank you
[06:30] <SilvereX> Ben64: Yeah I've heard they're bundled in with Ubuntu but I can't for the life of me find the "Additional Drivers" manager in LXDE
[06:30] <A1Recon> Can I password protect the terminal of ubuntu?
[06:30] <penguinman> SilvereX, try the command software-properties-gtk
[06:31] <agu10^^> Hello. I have an issue. When i boot up my server the DNS port/connection gets blocked. I think iptables is not working properly. What can I do? I have flushed but every time I reboot iptables strikes back.
[06:31] <histo> A1Recon: O.o  ?  they already have to login to get there.
[06:32] <SilvereX> penguinman: Okay, that worked. But there's nothing listed in "Additional Drivers"
[06:32] <histo> SilvereX: What are you trying to do?
[06:32] <MrEmerald> I don't know if this would be the right place, but my apache2 is started, and I can go to localhost, but it won't show all my files in the www dir. I moved all these files from the windows side and put them in my ubuntu side. I restarted the server a few times already... still not showing all the files(folders)
[06:32] <histo> agu10^^: still?   Add an exception for DNS in iptables
[06:32] <histo> !firewall | agu10^^
[06:32] <SilvereX> histo: Install the open-source radeon drivers because I have a Radeon HD4850 and the fglrx drivers don't support that on Ubuntu 13.04
[06:32] <histo> agu10^^: second link ^^
[06:33] <SilvereX> But I heard the open-source drivers do work on 13.04
[06:33] <histo> SilvereX: they are already installed by default
[06:33] <A1Recon> OK
[06:33] <A1Recon> got it
[06:33] <agu10^^> histo, but i just want to have no rules! like the initial configuration
[06:33] <A1Recon> I was watching a video
[06:34] <histo> agu10^^: iredmail's script set your iptables to drop all incoming packets except for the the exceptions you see when you iptables --list.  You just need to add a rule for dns
[06:34] <histo> agu10^^: sudo ufw allow dns
[06:34] <Mikeasaurus> A1Recon I installed them as shown on the help.ubuntu.com website and it installed, then I restarted.  Now when I try to do it again it says "e: unable to locatepackage firmware-b43"
[06:34] <A1Recon> histo: how did you put your name in red, like the message that you sent me just now  "<histo> A1Recon: O.o  ?  they already have to login to get there." your name's in RED
[06:34] <theadmin> Is there a way to bind a key / key combination to toggle the touchpad? My laptop doesn't have a key for that :/
[06:34] <RainbowW> is there a way to limit, or lift the limit, on the number of connections to sshd/sftpd from a single user, or from all users?
[06:35] <theadmin> A1Recon: When someone mentions your nickname, it's highlighted for you
[06:35] <Mikeasaurus> And sudo iwlist scan gives me "lo interface doesnt support scanning" and eth0 "interface doesnt support scanning"
[06:35] <histo> A1Recon: because your nick is in the line
[06:35] <histo> !who | A1Recon
[06:35] <A1Recon> !histo
[06:35] <histo> Mikeasaurus: did you get your lspci -k output yet?
[06:35] <histo> A1Recon: What?
[06:35] <MrEmerald> I don't know if this would be the right place, but my apache2 is started, and I can go to localhost, but it won't show all my files in the www dir. I moved all these files from the windows side and put them in my ubuntu side. I restarted the server a few times already... still not showing all the files(folders)
[06:35] <A1Recon> I think I got it
[06:36] <SilvereX> histo: Doesn't look that way. Ugh, I think I might just wipe my PC and go back to 12.10
[06:36] <Bodsda> MrEmerald: erm... are any of them web pages?
[06:36] <agu10^^> histo, i think i found the rules file made by the malware i installed
[06:36] <agu10^^> let me see if deleting them will help
[06:36] <MrEmerald> Bodsda: All of them are, but they are separated in folders
[06:36] <theadmin> SilvereX: Suggest 12.04 for more stability + longer support.
[06:37] <histo> MrEmerald: /j #httpd
[06:37] <MrEmerald> histo: thanks
[06:37] <histo> agu10^^: just sudo ufw allow dns  ffs
[06:37] <Mikeasaurus> histo I just did lspci -k output and got a bunch of options and pci acess options
[06:37] <theadmin> MrEmerald: Check the permissions on them, they should be owned by www-data methinks (see what /var/www is owned by)
[06:37] <MrEmerald> theadmin: Ill have a look
[06:37] <histo> Mikeasaurus: yes can you please post the info the paste.ubuntu.com or use pastebinit to do so. lspci -k | pastebinit
[06:38] <MrEmerald> theadmin: yeah they are owned by my windows 7 side, ill check how I can change over the perm
[06:39] <Bodsda> MrEmerald: man chown
[06:39] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/WbGatjRy
[06:40] <histo> Mikeasaurus: try it without typing output after lspci -k
[06:41] <MrEmerald> theadmin: I found out the problem, was just the perms lol
[06:42] <xlaire> how to install google chrome without knowing the exact file location of the install ?
[06:42] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/ikFquhQr
[06:42] <histo> xlaire: What?
[06:42] <A1Recon> A1Recon
[06:42] <histo> Mikeasaurus: "lspci -k"    without quotes
[06:43] <xlaire> this is the https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb of the chrome
[06:43] <xlaire> without searching the internet how to locate that using terminal
[06:43] <xlaire> without using*
[06:44] <Mikeasaurus> my bad, www.pastebin.com/K9pD9W7W
[06:44] <theadmin> xlaire: No way, I mean... Chrome is only available as that .deb. To actually find the link, you'd need to browse their site.
[06:44] <xlaire> i see
[06:44] <xlaire> thx
[06:45] <theadmin> Ubuntu repositories provide Chromium which integrates with the system better anyway (web app support for example)
[06:45] <xlaire> no idea on terms you are using
[06:45] <xlaire> been 2 months now using ubuntu
[06:46] <theadmin> xlaire: Search "Chromium" in the software centre, works better with Ubuntu -- clear now :P
[06:46] <theadmin> ?
[06:46] <xlaire> i enjoyed but i need some time to research i guess what is repositories
[06:46] <xlaire> sorry i dont like to use mouse that is why i switch to ubuntu
[06:46] <UbuBegin> What is the minimum reqd for installing 13.04.. I have an old lap.. Centrino 2 i think.. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop .. I searched here but cudn't find any links
[06:47] <theadmin> xlaire: "Repositories" are storage of software supported by Ubuntu developers. They're quite huge. You can access them using the Software Centre, Synaptic (GUI) or apt-get, wajig (CLI)
[06:47] <histo> Mikeasaurus: lspci -vnn -d 14e4:                 Does that have any output?
[06:47] <xlaire> i understand now
[06:47] <Mikeasaurus> No it just goes down to the next line with :~$
[06:48] <theadmin> UbuBegin: As for the processor, Pentium Pro and up (i686). 512MB of RAM. But Ubuntu is *heavy* on 3D graphics, you may like Xubuntu instead.
[06:48] <Mikeasaurus> wrong sorry it does
[06:48] <A1Recon> ubottu
[06:49] <histo> Mikeasaurus: You should be using the b43 driver not the wl driver
[06:49] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/S272Nfwa
[06:49] <theadmin> UbuBegin: Xubuntu and Lubuntu generally work better on older hardwares.
[06:49] <Mikeasaurus> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[06:49] <Mikeasaurus> Thats what I used
[06:49] <xlaire> another, hope i didnt annoyed good people here: my friend just bought new laptop and i think the OS is just unix
[06:50] <xlaire> does unix can connect to network and internet
[06:50] <theadmin> xlaire: UNIX? That doesn't really exist anymore :P
[06:50] <theadmin> xlaire: Besides that has nothing to do with Ubuntu so can't help ehre
[06:50] <xlaire> do you have idea on what OS is that
[06:50] <xlaire> is pure terminal
[06:51] <xlaire> its* and i run like ls, i think it is something linux/unix
[06:51] <xlaire> i see ok
[06:51] <xlaire> np
[06:51] <histo> Mikeasaurus: this issn't a usb device right?
[06:51] <theadmin> xlaire: Well... There are many Linux distributions which come without a graphical interface, but uh... You can check with "uname -a" for starters and then try to cat /etc/*release
[06:51] <Mikeasaurus> No
[06:51] <Mikeasaurus> Its inside the lapto
[06:52] <xlaire> ok thx for the command, i will try
[06:52] <histo> Mikeasaurus: do you have bcmwl-kernel-source installed or brocom-sta ??? that could cause the issue
[06:52] <Mikeasaurus> Not sure, how do I tell
[06:52] <Mikeasaurus> I think bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:53] <histo> Mikeasaurus: dpkg -l | grep bcmwl
[06:54] <Mikeasaurus> pastebin.com/fgdbtYYX
[06:55] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: hi again, I got this error : GConf WARNING : You can't use a GconfEngine that has an active Gconfclient wrapper object. Use GConfclient API instead
[06:55] <Joanet> I'm looking for more info about that
[06:58] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'm going to to a debug
[06:58] <jackw> 64 bit or 32?
[06:58] <jackw> what you thing about 64 bit??? faster than 32?
[06:58] <Bodsda> jackw: depends on you're computer - CPU architecture and amount of RAM
[06:59] <UbuBegin> theadmin, Can you watch videos,browse internet and run torrents in Lubuntu... Or it purely command based only
[06:59] <ashish> hi
[06:59] <ashish> everyone
[06:59] <jackw> yes you can  do these under lubuntu
[06:59] <theadmin> UbuBegin: No, it has a graphical interface
[06:59] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: you can do all of that, Lubuntu is lxde based - iirc
[07:00] <jackw> just like what you do on ubuntu they are the safe mostly
[07:00] <theadmin> UbuBegin: I suggest Xubuntu though if you have to use a non-latin keyboard, Lubuntu had problems with switching last I checked :/ Well, or you could setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle us,ru # or such
[07:00] <jackw> i suggest you use ubuntu
[07:01] <jackw> ubuntu provides the best experience
[07:01] <theadmin> jackw: (s)he stated above (s)he has older hardware (and Ubuntu is... well...)
[07:01] <UbuBegin> theadmin, I just use English...
[07:01] <theadmin> UbuBegin: Ah, then use whichever you prefer :D
[07:01] <helmut_> hi
[07:02] <jackw> if you want to real lightweight go lubuntu
[07:02] <UbuBegin> jackw, it has 1/2 gig ram.. so lubuntu wud be better ..
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> ^ by far
[07:03] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: there are plenty of options, lubuntu is a good choice as is xubuntu, puppy, dsl, ubuntu + lightweight DE - try them out and pick whichever 'you' like
[07:05] <Mikeasaurus> you still here histo?
[07:06] <UbuBegin> Bodsda, Are all of COTS products ?? I dont want to sit down and configure stuffs
[07:06] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: cots?
[07:07] <himanshu_linux> hi , i have download ubuntu 13.04 , and now i want to just replace my existing ubuntu 12.04 . Is there any safer way to replace it without losing files  ???
[07:07] <somsip> himanshu_linux: backup first
[07:07] <UbuBegin> Bodsda, I mean Of the shelf usuage... No config needed.. And installing of now s/w shld be easy like ubuntu also
[07:08] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: ubuntu is one of the most pre-configured distro's - but it may also be worth checking out Mint, not sure what their recommended specs are though
[07:09] <theadmin> UbuBegin: Ubuntu and all of the officially supported derivatives (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu) are pretty much out-of-the-box, no configuring is required
[07:09] <theadmin> !coc | Bodsda do not recommend unsupported distributions
[07:09] <marandi> hi guys , i just downloaded 13.04 ! if i mout the iso file and add it as repository in software source , can i upgrade my 12.04 without any problem ?
[07:09] <Bodsda> theadmin: seriously, don't bother
[07:09] <theadmin> marandi: You can't skip releases
[07:09] <himanshu_linux> somsip : i have lots of files . how to backup them to different place? and by back up you mean to transfer to different drive or is there way ?
[07:10] <theadmin> marandi: You'd have to upgrade to 12.10 first, or reinstall from scratch
[07:10] <marandi> theadmin: im sorry , my mistake i have 12.10 in my laptop
[07:10] <theadmin> marandi: Ah. Then it is recommended to upgrade by using the update manager. I'm actually not sure if upgrading from DVD is supported anymore.
[07:11] <theadmin> marandi: Should be, though, you'd get a pop-up asking if you want to upgrade when you insert the media
[07:11] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I think I have the problem
[07:11] <auronandace> marandi: boot the media and run the installer and it will offer to upgrade 12.10 to 13.04
[07:12] <marandi> theadmin: great , let me check it ! just one more question , should i mount iso file as CDROM label to able add it in software source ?!
[07:12] <somsip> himanshu_linux: rsync or cp with the correct params to keep all permissions etc. See !backup. You need to copy them away from the source partition that is being written to be safe
[07:12] <theadmin> marandi: Listen to auronandace, it seems he knows how it's done
[07:13] <himanshu_linux> somsip : ok
[07:13] <marandi> auronandace: ok , great but im not able to write the iso on the disk ! my driver is broken , i want to use iso file
[07:14] <somsip> himanshu_linux: not source partition...I mean target partition that the upgrader will write to
[07:14] <auronandace> marandi: i don't know how but i know grub can boot from iso files, sorry i can't help you with that
[07:14] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: When I use ubuntu-tweak on normal ubuntu, it wrote change on /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/50_unity-greeter.gschema.override, but it seems Edubuntu uses other file
[07:14] <nahuel_> plese i need enter to the spanish chanel, thanks
[07:14] <Bodsda> nahuel_: /j #ubuntu-es
[07:14] <nahuel_> thanks
[07:14] <himanshu_linux> somsip : hmm got it
[07:14] <theadmin> marandi: Install "grml-rescueboot", place the ISO file in /boot/grml and run "sudo update-grub"
[07:14] <marandi> theadmin: wow .. :D !
[07:15] <marandi> auronandace: its alright , thanks btw !
[07:16] <SweetPlum> Wait, did that automatically divert me to the ##matlab channel when I clicked the other one?
[07:16] <SweetPlum> That's clever.
[07:16] <theadmin> SweetPlum: This is #ubuntu
[07:17] <SweetPlum> True enough. :)
[07:17] <histo> Mikeasaurus: remove the bcmwl-kernel-source package... sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:18] <histo> Mikeasaurus: and the sta package if you have it sudo apt-get remove broadcom-sta
[07:18] <histo> Mikeasaurus: then if you have the b43 firmware you should be good to go after restart
[07:19] <Mikeasaurus> awesome, thank you histo
[07:20] <Mikeasaurus> unable to locate broadcom-sta
[07:23] <BigFist> is there  some bug in recent update for 13.04? Suddenly I cannot set launcher entry properties.  I can get proper entry object (python), i can call set_property, but there is no visible effect whatsoever
[07:24] <Mikeasaurus> histo you are my hero, it works!
[07:27] <waseem_> Hi. This answer, ask ubuntu, talks about how to have gnome-terminal start bash as a login shell http://askubuntu.com/a/40313. This however requires that I use GUI to check that option. I'm sshed on a remote server and can't forward X locally. Is there a way I could do the same from CLI?
[07:28] <gartral> alright, I'm frustrated.. I have half a dozen USB thumbdrives i'm trying to format and for each one, no matter what settings or port I use, i get an error similar to these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628310/ shortly before gparted barfs.. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 with kernel 3.5.0-27-lowlatency
[07:32] <histo> Mikeasaurus: np
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> gartral, Do you have them unmounted?
[07:44] <A1Recon> I want to Dual Boot my system with Win7 (Preinstalled) and Ubuntu. I have made a bootable thumb drive using UNetBootin, and I used CHKDSK command in the Win7 and the drive is fine.
[07:45] <A1Recon> I am ready to shrink the volume to somewhere around 20GB
[07:45] <A1Recon> and I am following this http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[07:45] <A1Recon> But what use is GParted??
[07:45] <gartral> wilee-nilee: yes
[07:46] <BluesKaj> windows needs a bit more than 20G
[07:46] <A1Recon> BluesKj I mean for Ubuntu
[07:47] <BluesKaj> 2-g for / , A1Recon?
[07:47] <gartral> BluesKaj: Blasphamy, Windows doesn't need more than 20 gigs as long as you cut out all the bloat, including the localizations you'll never use.
[07:47] <BluesKaj> err 20
[07:47] <A1Recon> Windows and the rest software get around 55GB
[07:47] <BluesKaj> gartral, let's not debate that here
[07:48] <A1Recon> I have 931 Gb for storage
[07:48] <gartral> BluesKaj: fair enough
[07:48] <A1Recon> *GB
[07:48] <A1Recon> So guys what use is GParted??
[07:48] <A1Recon> Cant I just specify which drive to install in?
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> sup all :D, here to support and be supported.
[07:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Altimeter: GParted is alright, I suppose, but its definition of gb differs from both the installer and nautilus
[07:49] <theadmin> A1Recon: Sure you can, GParted has no relationship to installation most of the time (all partitioning can be done from the installer), it's there to modify existing installations (resize,  move, delete partitions)
[07:50] <A1Recon> threadmin: got it
[07:50] <gartral> wilee-nilee: what's weird is, I'm only getting these errors with usb flash drives, I have a bunch of other things connected through usb on this machine, including a scanner, webcam, my usual mouse and keyboard, and my wifi card..
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, YOu can build partitions in gparted or with using the something other manual install. YOu will use the manual anyway to point the install to a HD, and make sure grub goes to that HD's mbr.
[07:50] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, for ubuntu are you going to  create a /home partition or just one / for the whole OS? Yes , ubiquity installer will give partitoning options when you run the install media.
[07:51] <yeehi> chromium is a bit wild on raring 64bit. I have 3 tabs open, and am leaving it alone. Then I notice that Chromium is using 1.9 GB of memory! and the cpu usage for chromium is up to 40% or more... what is going on?
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> gartral, I have a number of usb connects as well, however I would consider that if getting errors. I don't really recognize the errors.
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: I highly suggest a separat /home
[07:51] <A1Recon> separate partition for Ubuntu
[07:52] <gartral> wilee-nilee: i'm afraid i don't quite understand what you mean
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> gartral, In?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> !partition
[07:53] <A1Recon> In http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony it says"Experienced Linux geeks might be wondering where the swap space is going—but don't worry, we'll create one, just not in its own partition." BluesKaj What is the merits/demerits of doing this?
[07:53] <gartral> wilee-nilee: your last post x.x
[07:53] <nobitanobi> Hi guys. Any suggestions on how to check which program/process is consuming my bandwith?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> !partition | A1Recon
[07:53] <qin> yeehi: of flash? test in text only mode?
[07:54] <llutz> A1Recon: if you use a swap-file, you cannot hibernate (with default settings). but hibernation + dualbooting is not advised anyways
[07:54] <yeehi> hi, qin - how do i test flash? in text only mode?
[07:54] <bazhang> nobitanobi, top or htop in terminal
[07:54] <bazhang> nobitanobi, you need to install htop
[07:54] <bazhang> !info htop | nobitanobi
[07:55] <yeehi> ah, qin, in system monitor, it was indicating memory 1.9 Gb
[07:55] <qin> yeehi: open 3 site which do not use any flash, or disable flash plugin
[07:55] <nobitanobi> bazhang, I mean NET bandwith
[07:55] <A1Recon> !partition
[07:55] <qin> nobitanobi: iftop
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> gartral, If you have a number of usb's plugged in: "I have a bunch of other things connected through usb on this machine, including a scanner, webcam, my usual mouse and keyboard, and my wifi card" you might unplug what is not needed, to format a usb to see if you have success. Are you using gparted to unmout the usb's?
[07:55] <theadmin> yeehi: ...Flash is much of a graphical browser plugin. That, and I don't know of any text-only browser which'd support NPAPI.
[07:55] <BluesKaj> A1Recon,  a swap partition is usually fsarer than a swap file , but it's hard to tell
[07:55] <yeehi> ah, ok, i will try that
[07:55] <bazhang> nobitanobi, another top then iftop
[07:55] <BluesKaj> err faster
[07:55] <nobitanobi> bazhang, thanks
[07:55] <bazhang> !info iftop | nobitanobi
[07:56] <nobitanobi> qin, thanks
[07:56] <yeehi> i am not using flash on the pages in chromium i have open.
[07:56] <bazhang> nobitanobi, if you want to shape it , look at trickle/wondershaper
[07:56] <bazhang> !info trickle | nobitanobi
[07:56] <nobitanobi> thanks guys
[07:56] <nobitanobi> really appreaciate
[07:56] <gartral> wilee-nilee: ahh, i've tried that too, with the exact same result, and my system won't try to automount these flashdrives as they don't even have partition tables yet
[07:57] <nobitanobi> I have a feeling that some process just wakes up and kills my bandwith
[07:57] <A1Recon> !info trickle  !PartitionManager !GParted What is all this??
[07:57] <A1Recon> Sorry for being a noob
[07:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> you can get info from the bot with !commands
[07:57] <A1Recon> ok
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> !caps | A1Recon
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> etc etc
[07:58] <qin> !bot > ntzrmtthihu777
[07:58] <qin> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry...
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> simple questions, instructions, and info are all available
[07:58] <A1Recon> !caps
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> qin: its cool.
[07:59] <A1Recon> !GParted
[07:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: if you wanna experiment enter a pm with ubottu , don't flood the channel.
[07:59] <A1Recon> ok
[07:59] <gartral> wilee-nilee: this might be a little more helpful, as it proves that there's only one device throwing errors.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628379/
[08:00] <BluesKaj> well , back to bed  , it's late
[08:01] <gartral> wilee-nilee: it goes through several resets before it's actually read by the system
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> gartral, The sandisk? They have a firmware that is problematic, can be removed I think from windows.
[08:03] <gartral> wilee-nilee: some are sandisk, some are pny, others are no-name generic.. all throw that 110 error
[08:03] <melita> vos dias
[08:03] <melita> vou dar una volta
[08:03] <melita> ??
[08:04] <melita> hasta logo
[08:04] <melita> quit, exit
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> gartral, I have never had a usb problem except for one sandisk, not sure really.
[08:05] <A1Recon> That recursive remove command ..... Does it remove all files in every partition of my computer
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: what command.
[08:06] <qin> A1Recon: man rm; but "-r" is used with caution in every command, obviously
[08:06] <melita> -r
[08:06] <melita> what
[08:07] <melita> ¿
[08:07] <melita> chao
[08:07] <melita> hasta logo
[08:07] <qin> !esp | melita
[08:07] <llutz> !es | melita
[08:07] <theadmin> A1Recon: rm -r removes everything from a directory. Obviously, if you specify the directory as /, then everything will be removed, that you have access to that is.
[08:07] <gustav> !se
[08:07] <gustav> :O
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: not entirely true. even if you do sudo rm -r /, it will not scrag everything unless you set the --no-preserve-root flag
[08:08] <melita> -e /home/melita/.xchat2/key
[08:08] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Let's not tell people how to ruin their systems, they tend to complain afterwards :P
[08:08] <melita> bindings.conf
[08:09] <qin> some saying dd is more effective than rm
[08:09] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777  rm -rf does  it delete every file from all partitions??
[08:09] <A1Recon>  
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> all new folk: under no circumstance do you issue the above command :P
[08:09] <melita> quint
[08:09] <melita> quit
[08:09] <melita> exit
[08:09] <melita> saida
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: just use gparted to delet the partion if that's what your're trying to do.
[08:09] <qin> melita: please "/"
[08:10] <melita> "/"
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, lets not tell them how to fork bomb themselves either
[08:10] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777 no iam asking in general
[08:10] <melita> sam
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> melita: como /quit
[08:10] <quick-> hi , Would any onw tell me how can i upgrade to 13.04  from 12.04 LTS . dp-release upgrade isn't working as the setting is to only upgrade from an LTs to another LTS. I dont have access to GUI . Please help.
[08:11] <researcher123> I cant run the command update-manager-d fromm command line. I want 2 upgrade to 13.04 from 12.10
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: rm -rf will remove everything in the specified directory, don't think you cna use it on a partition directly.
[08:11] <Ntemis> i would recommend to you to stick to LTS
[08:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> researcher123: quick-: I concur with Ntemis
[08:12] <qin> A1Recon: man young yedi will guide you, man man; asking such questions provokes starange reactions in the channel ;)
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> quick-, software sources updates, choose for any new version, and you will have to go through 12.10 to get to raring.
[08:12] <Ntemis> ntzrmtthihu777: ty
[08:12] <ubuntu> LERI
[08:12] <ubuntu> ?
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> quick-, the upgrades will show in the update-manager
[08:13] <Guest41768> ah te ubuntu
[08:13] <quick-> Ntemis: I too want to stick to LTS but it's not booting up i dont know . It stops at checking the battery state.
[08:13] <A1Recon> qin What??
[08:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> quick-: ahh, I had dealt with this before.
[08:13] <Ben64> quick-: well thats a horse of a different color
[08:13] <Ntemis> so? install fresh
[08:13] <qin> !man | A1Recon
[08:13] <Ntemis> be sure to use .2
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> quick-, Don't upgrade a broken OS.
[08:14] <quick-> wilee-nilee:  Thanks but i know that and how do i do it in command line.
[08:14] <qin> A1Recon: fairly, the quickest way to learn linux
[08:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> quick-: and this time use a separate /home partition :P
[08:14] <quick-> ntzrmtthihu777:  How did you fix it ?
[08:14] <Ntemis> lol
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> quick-: by reinstalling XD
[08:15]  * ntzrmtthihu777 is known as the "separate /home paladin"
[08:15] <quick-> ntzrmtthihu777:  Dont worry i have acces to my data :D
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> quick-, I never upgrade distros, so like you would have to look on the web.
[08:15] <quick-> wilee-nilee:  okay . Thanks for help :D
[08:15] <A1Recon> thanks qin
[08:16] <GN> any one knows how to setup project management system in ubuntu
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> dunno what that is, sorry :P
[08:17] <GN> my mean is project management software
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> like ide's?
[08:17] <quick-> GN : You can use redmine
[08:17] <GN> any other please
[08:17] <qin> GN: you mean colaboration?
[08:18] <GN> just project management with git & bugtraking
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> honestly I do all my dev work with gedit and a terminal :P
[08:18] <GN> so just use SDKs & a editor
[08:19] <himanshu_linux> hi was using startup usb to upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 ... but my upgrade option is disabled !! .. here is the Screenshot of it.  Help me
[08:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> check your software center settings, and reconsider jumping ship.
[08:19] <epic> is there a way to install libdb4.8 on 13.04?
[08:19] <quick->  himanshu_linux : where's the screenshot  ?
[08:19] <himanshu_linux> ohh http://imagebin.org/256264 ..sorry
[08:20] <GN> thank you
[08:21] <himanshu_linux> quick- : why is it disabled ??
[08:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> hell yeah! modified some debs and got gedit free of zeitgeist :D
[08:22] <GN> there is some kind of incompitibily<himanshu_linux>
[08:22] <himanshu_linux> what !!
[08:22] <zvacet> himanshu_linux: I don´t think you can skip version upgrade to 12.10 then 13.04 or fresh install of 13.04
[08:22] <quick-> himanshu_linux: What do you actually want to do ?
[08:22] <GN> == himanshu_linux note above
[08:23] <himanshu_linux> quick- : i want to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> now, for a question for you experts: how do you prevent the upgrading of a package you custom rolled yourself?
[08:23] <llutz> !hold | ntzrmtthihu777
[08:23] <moppers> ntzrmtthihu777, synaptic and lock version number
[08:23] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: set it on hold
[08:24] <qin> !pinning
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> thankya
[08:24] <moppers> ntzrmtthihu777, is this nautilus? :-)
[08:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, its gedit and a few related debs
[08:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm on xubuntu, so I gotta thunar
[08:25] <moppers> dont go to, can install nautilus on xubuntu :)
[08:25] <moppers> *got
[08:25] <zvacet> ntzrmtthihu777: it is the same lock version in synaptic  :)
[08:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> moppers: I rather like thunar now, lol. I've got an advanced version that enables tabbed browsing
[08:26] <qin> ntzrmtthihu777: use nano, it froze decade ago
[08:27] <Moreece> 12.04 vs 13.04 (should I upgrade my relatively old laptop)
[08:27] <Moreece> ?
[08:27] <Moreece> had to downgrade from 12.10 as unity killed it
[08:27] <llutz> Moreece: does 12.04 work for you, any issues?
[08:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> qin: I do, from time to time, but I like to gedit for some nifty plugins.
[08:27] <Moreece> back down to 12.04 (switching between unity n gnome)
[08:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Moreece: xubuntu 12.04, I recommnend.
[08:27] <Moreece> only issue llutz is my wifi card
[08:27] <Moreece> disconnects randomly from wlan
[08:27] <Moreece> think I need to install priorerty drivers
[08:28] <Moreece> it really sucks cause my downloads etc get halted
[08:28] <Moreece> ubuntu wants to relogin each time to the wifi
[08:29] <Moreece> blerk!
[08:29] <quick-> himanshu_linux: I dont know but you can upgrade using the do-release-upgrade if you have access to internet
[08:29] <llutz> Moreece: if it is a common problem, check if its solved with 13.04. else stay with 12.04
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> thankya, got a locked version of gedit without zeitgeist now :D
[08:31] <quick-> Moreece:  Thats not the problem with your wifi card
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> alrighty, this is more of a generic linux question: anyone can help a bit with building an x11 cursor theme?
[08:35] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: there is a gimp-plugin for that (all i know about it)
[08:35] <agu10^^> how do i turn on eth1 after eth0 is working?
[08:37] <Ben64> agu10^^: ifup eth1
[08:39] <agu10^^> ubuntu@ip-10-0-0-128:~$ sudo ifup eth1
[08:39] <agu10^^> sudo: unable to resolve host ip-10-0-0-128
[08:39] <agu10^^> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[08:39] <agu10^^> Ben64, ^
[08:39] <Moreece> good firewall application for ubuntu?
[08:40] <Ben64> agu10^^: uh, what did you do to your hostname
[08:40] <llutz> agu10^^: ifup/ifdown only work with interfaces being configured in /etc/network/interfaces (ifupdown)
[08:40] <Ben64> !ufw | Moreece
[08:40] <bazhang> !info gufw | Moreece
[08:40] <contrapunctus> Good afternoon, folks. If I run 'sudo ufw status', it is enabled alright, but I get "WARN: / is world writable! WARN: / is group writable!". Tried verifying that by opening a file browser and making a new folder in /...and it worked -_- How on earth did this happen (I don't mess around with permissions =\ ) and what can I do to fix it?
[08:41] <llutz> contrapunctus: sudo chmod 755 /
[08:41] <Ben64> Contexual: paste the output of "ls -lad /"
[08:41] <Moreece> thanks ubottu
[08:41] <Moreece> thanks ben64
[08:41] <contrapunctus> llutz, that's fine, but wouldn't that mean that all subdirectories (and, gulp, files) are insecure too?
[08:42] <llutz> contrapunctus: no
[08:42] <Ben64> contrapunctus: possibly
[08:42] <llutz> contrapunctus: check it , ls -ld /*/
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> frak, anyone know a gnome-look support channel?
[08:42] <contrapunctus> That command did make the error go away. llutz, what is that supposed to show?
[08:43] <llutz> contrapunctus: th permissions/ownership of the "toplevel" /dirs
[08:43] <llutz> contrapunctus: which usually are 755 (excep tmp, lost+found)
[08:44] <Ben64> root, and proc
[08:44] <llutz> sys
[08:44] <Ben64> sys is 755
[08:45] <llutz> 555 here
[08:45] <Ben64> weird
[08:45] <contrapunctus> llutz, Ben64, I don't see numbers.
[08:46] <contrapunctus> I see stuff like drwxr-xr-x for /bin/
[08:46] <llutz> contrapunctus: rwxr-xr-x = 755
[08:46] <llutz> !permissions | contrapunctus
[08:47] <contrapunctus> Thank you, llutz. Then, it's 755 for everything except lost+found and root (drwx), and tmp (drwxrwxrwt).
[08:48] <llutz> contrapunctus: shoudl be fine then
[08:48] <llutz> should*
[08:48] <contrapunctus> Thank you, llutz, Ben64.
[08:49] <heneusl_pay> How do I lower the transmission strenth of the wireless on Ubuntu?
[08:50] <heneusl_pay> hey
[08:51] <mman> i'm build some .deb packages and created a repository. When trying to install i get the following msg :Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
[08:51] <mman>  tivsm-full : Hängt ab von: tivsm-dep32:any (>= 6.4.0-1)
[08:52] <mman> Basically it says that the package doesnt satisfy the dependencies.. what does exactly that mean?
[08:52] <ravi_> doublexstudios
[08:52] <heneusl_pay> hey ravi_
[08:52] <heneusl_pay> How do I lower the transmission strenth of the wireless on Ubuntu 12?
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> mman: you need something installed, but it is not. you could fix it by running sudo apt-get -f install
[08:52] <heneusl_pay> damit!
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | heneusl_pay
[08:52] <llutz> heneusl_pay: "man iwconfig"  sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower xx              if your device accepts that setting
[08:53] <heneusl_pay> iwconfig is for intel chipsets I recall
[08:53] <llutz> its not
[08:54] <bazhang> heneusl_pay, thats not correct
[08:54] <heneusl_pay> well thats why its iw intel wireless
[08:54] <llutz> heneusl_pay: stop telling nonsense
[08:56] <mattia> hello
[08:56] <sh_> hello
[08:58] <mman> ntzrmtthihu777: i tried already apt-get -f install but it doesnt work
[09:01] <heneusl_pay>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[09:01] <snuggl> heneusl_pay: you need to be root
[09:01] <heneusl_pay> I guess the driver doesnt support iwconfig
[09:01] <snuggl> ah, that might be the case too yes
[09:01] <llutz> and not all devices accept all settings
[09:02] <heneusl_pay> snuggl: oh sudo, now it works
[09:09] <mman> i found what the problem is, one package is for 32bit machines. How can install it on a 64bit? I google it and it says use "multiarch" but.. how do i do it?
[09:10] <riz0n> I have Ubuntu Server with bind DNS. From my understanding, any time the "db" files for a zone are updated, bind9 has to be restarted. Is this completely neccessary? Is there an easier way to have bind9 automatically reload database files?
[09:10] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:10] <heneusl_pay> damit!
[09:11] <heneusl_pay> whats all of this netsplit crap
[09:11] <moko_> hi!
[09:11] <heneusl_pay> brb
[09:11] <druedan> could someone help me with dual booting ubunto in my win7 machine? I just need to know which and what size partitions i must create in order to use the ubunto for basic fiddeling arround with, nothing big...
[09:12] <sazawal> I wrote a script to end a python script on system shutdown/restart. But it seems that the terminal window(guake in my case) is killed before the kill command of the script is executed. How to fix it?
[09:13] <moko_> hey druedan, i'd suggest making 3 partitions, one for ram swap, which should be double your ram size, one for root, min10gb, i use 20gb, and one for your home, which is basically all your files, ext4 is the filesystem to choose
[09:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> druedan: you don't need too much space for ubuntu. I set a 16gb root myself, but you could likely get away with 8.
[09:14] <moko_> druedan, ntzrmtthihu777 , ye the root partitions basically limits the amount of apps you can install, you can always resize the partition. it all depends on how much apps you're planning on using
[09:14] <ironhalik> I've got a problem - my X220 lappy has an issue on raring - the touchpad (clickpad) is extremely choppy - it moves ok, but trying to click on something ends with the cursor jumping around. It works ok on Fedora 18 (same as original windows installation).
[09:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> moko_: yep. honeslty I've not even half-wayed my root yet, and I've got allota apps and dev libraries installed. granted I'm using lightweight xubuntu but still.
[09:15] <druedan> what about the /home partition? what does it consist of?
[09:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> druedan: /home is like your C:\Users folder
[09:15] <mac_nibblet> How do i use resolvconf to set my nameservers ?
[09:16] <druedan> how much space does it ussually take up?
[09:16] <llutz> !resolv.conf | mac_nibblet
[09:16] <mac_nibblet> llutz: my dns server is so slow i cannot access any sites
[09:16] <mac_nibblet> our stupid ISP
[09:16] <moko_> ntzrmtthihu777, I ran out of my 10gb only after one month of usage, got a lot of demanding apps though, such as netbeans, blender, gimp..
[09:16] <mac_nibblet> so i cant read that information
[09:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> druedan: I have a full ubuntu install, so its more to me. But it contains your personal stuffs, like config files, music, pictures, etc.
[09:17] <moko_> druedan, the home partition is your documents, your downloads, it consists of only what you save or create there
[09:17] <druedan> can't i just save all that in root though?
[09:17] <llutz> mac_nibblet: as a temporary workaround, add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to "/etc/resolv.conf". then read the info and do it "right" ;)
[09:18] <llutz> druedan: you can, separat home just makes upgrading/reinstalling a bit easier in some cases
[09:18] <moko_> druedan, you could, but it would defeat the purpose of root, which is that of an admin
[09:19] <moko_> llutz, have you upgraded to 13.04 yet?
[09:19] <llutz> no, why should i
[09:19] <wooo> Hey please someone tell me how file system check if a particular file is file or directory in linux. Basically how the isDirectory function is implemented?
[09:19] <moko_> llutz, well the UEFI is one reason imho
[09:19] <llutz> moko_: this old notebook doesn't suppor UEFI
[09:19] <llutz> support
[09:19] <druedan> and is it possible for me to for example share my D: drive with both Operating systems, and use it in ubunto as /home?
[09:20] <moko_> llutz, right, i'm just a bit angsty about running the update, not sure if it will mess up my setup
[09:20] <moko_> druedan, you can access all your drives from ubuntu
[09:20] <llutz> moko_: then don't update if you dont really miss something
[09:21] <moko_> llutz, i'd do it for UEFI, so i could double boot with win8
[09:21] <druedan> then i don't really need to create a /home partition and use D: which is my files only no os drive as /home?
[09:23] <moko_> what is the filesystem on your D partition?
[09:23] <moko_> NTFS?
[09:23] <druedan> yeah
[09:23] <Meisyou> need for speed
[09:24] <Meisyou> I dont have any partitions
[09:24] <llutz> moko_: doesn't 12.04 have UEFI-support? i'm not very versed with that, using it at home but not for dual-boot. There i just use an "efibootmgr" entry booting the kernel directly
[09:24] <Meisyou> What to do
[09:24] <qin> druedan: you rather want to have /home, and eventualy use links to ms partition
[09:24] <moko_> druedan, ubuntu does support reading NTFS, but it sounds a bit fishy to me
[09:24] <Ben64> shouldn't use ntfs for /home
[09:24] <llutz> it also support ntfs-writing
[09:25] <Meisyou> Fuck yu
[09:25] <moko_> llutz, it does, but it doesn't support secure boot
[09:25] <ezra-s> wow
[09:25] <Meisyou> Iamtoolegittoquit
[09:26] <qin> moko_: nor permissions...
[09:26] <llutz> moko_: oh ok, fortunately i don't have to deal with that. so good luck, make a backup and run...
[09:26] <Meisyou> Fack yu ell
[09:26] <DJones> Meisyou: Stop that
[09:26] <moko_> qin, excuse me?
[09:26] <llutz> !ops | Meisyou
[09:26] <druid> Hello
[09:27] <moko_> llutz, i'll think i'll postpone it until after the exams, can't afford to have it go south on me atm
[09:27] <druid> I'm running an openvpn client on an archlinux and everything goes out through the tunnel once it's connected which is unsatisfying for me as i only want to use the vpn to surf with chromium (and not firefox, which must connect directly to the internet)
[09:27] <qin> moko_: sorry, wrong tab
[09:27] <Ben64> llutz: don't always need to !ops, especially after one responds already :)
[09:27] <DJones> Meisyou: This is a support channel, please keep the comments family friendly
[09:27] <llutz> Ben64: which i realized while pressing <enter<
[09:27] <druid> replace arch by ubuntu, i have to get this to work on both
[09:27] <druid> I basically want to do the equivalancy of a ssh -D, using openvpn. I'm really intersted in an explanation or a complete tutorial that i havn't found util no... Thanks in advance
[09:27] <druid> I have looked at the documentation and i don't understand how to do that... Can someone help me?
[09:28] <ezra-s> druid, use ssh tunneling with a dynamic tunnel , configure chrome to use that tunnel
[09:28] <sazawal> I wrote a script to end a python script on system shutdown/restart. But it seems that the terminal window(guake in my case) is killed before the kill command of the script is executed. How to fix it?
[09:28]  * moko_ goes to get some coffee
[09:28] <druid> ezra-s: that's what i used to do, but i can't anymore as we've been move to a new LAN where "-D" is filtered.
[09:28] <druid> *moved
[09:29] <ezra-s> druid, mmm... I believe you are mistaken, or maybe I'm ignorant. -D and ssh are different layers, you can filter out ssh, but not -D in my knowledge
[09:29] <subthalamus> this is driving me nuts; trying to troubleshoot sound not working remotely on a relative's box
[09:30] <subthalamus> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ef3c7c78743527c451a6cb433f0584c019d64c9a
[09:30] <subthalamus> sound working fine and they use it a lot, but after playing something for a couple hours one day, the sound just quit
[09:31] <gustav> Aaaaaaaaaaa. Exim won't allow me to connect with STARTTLS. I followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4
[09:31] <gustav> Thunderbird says it's not "advertising" STARTTLS.
[09:31] <druid> ezra-s: i didn't think it was possible, but it is... I can ssh normally but when i try to ssh -D as i didd before it doesn't work... the browser says it can't contact the proxy. They prolly do DPI... :(
[09:31] <subthalamus> shouldn t raring have pulseaudio installed by default?
[09:31] <ggherdov> hi all. Just upgraded 12.10 ---> 13.04 and my system is in a broken state. Can somebody have a look at this and give me an hint on what to do? http://bpaste.net/show/nsPo7QYQUaj1Tv0sG5vQ/
[09:32] <ezra-s> druid, but the proxy is your localhost (aka 127.0.0.1) which is using the ssh connectiong and can't be filtered out, how can a firewall determine if you are using a tunnel of any type inside ssh?
[09:33] <subthalamus> ggherdov: did u try "sudo apt-get -f install xorg" ? as it suggests?
[09:33] <ezra-s> druid, what's DPI?
[09:33] <druid> Deep packet inspection
[09:34] <ezra-s> druid, ummm, interesting, do you configure chrome to use 127.0.0.1 1080 ?
[09:34] <Anubis> ggherdov: did you tried sudo apt-get -f install without specifying any package ?
[09:34] <ggherdov> subthalamus: as shown in the pastebin, I did it. Anubis not, doing it
[09:34] <druid> I connect it to 9050 but that shouldn't change anything
[09:34] <druid> i'll give it a try, just in case.
[09:35] <llutz> gustav: and, does your exim advertise STARTTLS?
[09:35] <subthalamus> ggherdov: the pastebin does not show u doing -f as far as I see...
[09:35] <gustav> llutz: Not on the greeting.
[09:35] <llutz> gustav: you should check the config then
[09:36] <ggherdov> subthalamus: ah sorry my bad. I didn't understand you suggestion.
[09:36] <gustav> llutz: There are a zillion configs, not even sure which one does what.
[09:36] <ggherdov> subthalamus: Anubis: sorry for the noise. "-f" made the trick. Kudos to Ubuntu error messages.
[09:37] <llutz> gustav: you use split.configs?
[09:37] <subthalamus> yay
[09:37] <gustav> llutz: Yep.
[09:37] <subthalamus> can anybody tell me what module should be loaded for an onboard ICH - SiS SI7012 sound card?
[09:38] <LinuxNewbish> good day , im have a problem regarding the booting of Ubuntu 12.10 when i dual boot it with win8 it doesnt show me the window where i choise between Ubuntu or Win8  please help
[09:38] <ezra-s> druid, I found that sometimes if you are not specific about the local ip you could get weird problems, so I always be specific just in case -D 127.0.0.1:1080
[09:38] <LinuxNewbish> and install it side by side with win8
[09:39] <llutz> gustav: how did you check if it advertieses or not?
[09:39] <gustav> llutz: telnet host 587 + wait.
[09:39] <ezra-s> druid, and even so... connecting to 127.0.0.1:1080 should always work, what would happen if firewalled is a timeout trying to reach destination I bet
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> I have a 500 gb external usb drive with 150 gb free, is it possible to create a new encrypted ext4 (or better) partition AND move data to it from the old ntfs partition into so I can make the entire drive encrypted?
[09:39] <Anubis> ggherdov: don't worry. you will receive this message when you install some package that doesn't meet the dependencies requirments
[09:39] <subthalamus> how can I determine which sound card jacks are detected and which one is used for what through software?
[09:40] <llutz> gustav: grep -ri tls_advertise /etc/exim...../conf.d/*
[09:40] <paulcsiki> hello everyone
[09:40] <llutz> gustav: use correct config path
[09:40] <paulcsiki> I have a production server on ubuntu server lts 12.04 with 512mb of swap and I would like to increase it to 2GB
[09:41] <Ben64> paulcsiki: how much ram?
[09:41] <paulcsiki> I would like some help to know where I need to place the new swap image, since it has to be visible on the boot
[09:41] <llutz> paulcsiki: create a 1.5GB swapfile, add it as swap
[09:41] <paulcsiki> ben64: I have 4GB of ram
[09:41] <gustav> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628613/
[09:42] <Ben64> paulcsiki: yeah what llutz says should work, but if you're actually going to be using that much swap, it's not very good
[09:42] <paulcsiki> I worry about placing it on the root fs since it might not be mounted at that point at boot. I don't know how boot works
[09:42] <paulcsiki> I have now 512mb of swap and it's 97% in use
[09:42] <llutz> gustav: have you checked the logs for any errors?
[09:42] <Ben64> paulcsiki: thats not good
[09:43] <gustav> llutz: Nothing getting logged what I can see.
[09:43] <Ben64> paulcsiki: how are you using so much memory?
[09:43] <gustav> llutz: So yes.
[09:43] <ezra-s> druid, also note.. chrome proxy implementation is different from firefox's, I think chrome uses system configuration, for me and use of tunneling I always get better results using firefox and for advanced configuring and multitunneling I use foxy proxy extention, and I leave chrome for direct internet browsing
[09:43] <paulcsiki> ben64: I have an email server (zimbra) on it
[09:43] <sikilpaake> i got this error while compiling the latest version of lftp (during make):  'setupterm' was not declared in this scope   ..how can i fix this?
[09:43] <paulcsiki> ben64: you think that there are some memory leaks?
[09:43] <Ben64> paulcsiki: email servers don't take very much...
[09:43] <llutz> gustav: *.crt/.key are ok, permissions are fine?
[09:43] <paulcsiki> ben64: you think I should reboot the machine?
[09:44] <Ben64> paulcsiki: maybe top or htop to see what is using all the memory?
[09:44] <gustav> llutz: Should they be owned by Debian-exim?
[09:44] <gustav> Eh...
[09:44] <llutz> gustav: if that is the user exim runs as, yes
[09:45] <Ben64> paulcsiki: for comparison... i have a lot of stuff running on my server, and its using less than 1GB right now
[09:45] <gustav> Eh... exim is running as a non-existant user. But how?
[09:45] <paulcsiki> ben64: http://pastebin.com/01QK0apa
[09:46] <llutz> gustav: well, the user should exist...
[09:46] <druid> ezra-s: didn't change anything to use the 1080 port. The issue comes from network filtering, not from anything else... it worked before we moved to that new network. Thanks for your help anyways :)
[09:46] <Ben64> paulcsiki: wow... java and mysql are using a lot
[09:46] <druid> (and i use foxyproxy)
[09:46] <gustav> llutz: It did but ps reported it in digits, not the name in /etc/passwd.
[09:47] <paulcsiki> I have another zimbra email server with 4GB of ram but it's using 100mb of swap but 5-6GB of ram
[09:47] <paulcsiki> 6GB of ram the other server not 4
[09:48] <paulcsiki> ben64: a reboot would fix it, you believe that increasing the swap memory is not needed?
[09:48] <Ben64> paulcsiki: it's just not a good solution. hard drives are slow, and swapping memory in and out is a big performance hit
[09:49] <LinuxNewbish> good day , im have a problem regarding the booting of Ubuntu 12.10 when i dual boot it with win8 it doesnt show me the window where i choise between Ubuntu or Win8  please help
[09:49] <LinuxNewbish> and install it side by side with win8
[09:49] <gustav> llutz: How do I know if it's advertising? I looked at another server that's OK and it doesn't mention STARTTLS.
[09:49] <paulcsiki> ben64: what would you recommend me to do, I am a novice in these sort of things
[09:49] <Ben64> paulcsiki: i'd suggest finding out why java and mysql are using so much memory
[09:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> LinuxNewbish: I wish I could help, but I genuinely don't know a thing about dual on eufi and quite frankly don't think win8 is worth the disc its burned on.
[09:50] <paulcsiki> ben64: I will show you the other production email server, maybe it will help you understand the normal usage
[09:50] <llutz> gustav: telnet server.whatever.com 25    then "ehlo server.whatever.com" then there should be a line "250-STARTTLS" coming
[09:50] <ezra-s> druid, can you scp any file to the machine you want to access for a tunnel?
[09:51] <sikilpaake> i got this error while compiling the latest version of lftp (during make):  'setupterm' was not declared in this scope   ..how can i fix this?
[09:51] <paulcsiki> ben64: http://pastebin.com/dz1Nmr1V
[09:51] <gustav> llutz: Ah. No STARTTLS from my server. Bummer.
[09:52] <paulcsiki> ben64: the last paste represents an email server that has about 500% more load than the first one
[09:52] <LinuxNewbish> i am with you ntzrmtthihu777  that is why i want to switch and learn Linux
[09:53] <LinuxNewbish> thanks anyway mate
[09:53] <gustav> llutz: Any more ideas? I changed the permissions for crt and key but nothing changed.
[09:53] <llutz> gustav: did you restart exim after the change?
[09:53] <gustav> llutz: Yep.
[09:54] <llutz> gustav: no ideas, sorry
[09:55] <llutz> gustav: you could try to increase exims log-verbosity (debug-level, if it has such) to get more verbose logs. maybe it gives an idea
[09:55] <tripweed> is there somekind of client that I can load on my buntu box which updates a dynamic dns host, so I can always find my buntu box via the internet (dynamic ip of dsl keeps switching)
[09:55] <xzcvczx> tripweed: there are a few
[09:55] <gustav> llutz: I'll look.
[09:56] <EkielZan> hi guys! I need a guru
[09:56] <xzcvczx> tripweed: which service do you use?
[09:56] <xzcvczx> EkielZan: good to know
[09:56] <gustav> llutz: # uncomment this for debugging <- heurheur
[09:56] <EkielZan> i want to turn off two extended monitor with a command line like vbetool or similar but i'm just able to swith one off
[09:57] <anjay> Hello everyone , I just set a cron mession. But is didn't work!this is the code : * * * * * scrot '%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S.png' -e 'mv $f /media/286487BE64878CEE/ScreenShot'
[09:57] <anjay> who can help me !!!!
[09:57] <jrib> anjay: % has special meaning in crontab (read « man 5 crontab »).  You should escape them
[09:58] <anjay> * * * * * scrot ~/Pictures/2.png  but this is not work either
[09:58] <jrib> anjay: don't use ~.  Use $HOME intsead
[09:59] <anjay> * * * * * date >> /media/286487BE64878CEE/ScreenShot/date.txt  This is work fine...
[09:59] <jrib> anjay: ok
[10:00] <Noggo> hello
[10:00] <anjay> I just want to capture the screen in every minus
[10:00] <jrib> anjay: I told you what to do
[10:01] <Joanet> Hi all again. Now I'm trying to create a user profile template using /etc/skel, but I don't know how to copy the launcher bar to the template. Can anyone help me?
[10:01] <tripweed> xzcvczx: services as in dsl provider? Well i'm in South Africa using Mweb
[10:01] <llutz> anjay: scrot takes screenshots? from what, if being run from cron?
[10:01] <Noggo> it is possible with ubuntu 13.04 to hide the icon for mounted drives in unity launcher
[10:01] <xzcvczx> tripweed: no the dynamic dns service?
[10:01] <tripweed> I have a netgear router but its been flashed with a customer ISP rom, which kinda hinders it
[10:01] <tripweed> oh I dont have one
[10:01] <anjay> yes  That is what I want
[10:01] <tripweed> I am looking around
[10:01] <xzcvczx> tripweed: as you will need to set up an account at dyndns or no-ip or similar
[10:01] <tripweed> a free one?
[10:02] <tripweed> no-ip
[10:02] <tripweed> ah yes
[10:02] <tripweed> I remember now
[10:02] <FloodBot1> tripweed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <jrib> llutz: good point
[10:02] <tripweed> thanks @floodbot1, very effective my man
[10:03] <LinuxNewbish> good day , im have a problem regarding the booting of Ubuntu 12.10 when i dual boot it with win8 it doesnt show me the window where i choise between Ubuntu or Win8  please help
[10:03] <LinuxNewbish> and install it side by side with win8
[10:04] <llutz> anjay: if you run a cron-job, it doesn't use your x-display, it doesn't even use a terminal. so that won't work the wa you want
[10:04] <jrib> anjay: fix the issues I told you about for starters.  Then you probably need to set DISPLAY for scrot to grab the right screen since, as llutz pointed out, it likely won't grab anything otherwise
[10:04] <xzcvczx> LinuxNewbish: any reason you are still using 12.10? as i heard there was an issue with win8 dual booting early in 13.04
[10:04] <xzcvczx> which may have also been in 12.10, i am unsure as i don't dual boot
[10:05] <gustav> llutz: Ok, STARTTLS is advertised and it's connecting but TB never requests for a password in GUI and I get "relay not permitted." (Thankfully.)
[10:05] <adv_> Hi all
[10:06] <LinuxNewbish> well no reason xzcvczx well can i dual boot 13.04 ?
[10:06] <tripweed> i'd like to give 13.04 a go, but I had such issues with 12.10
[10:06] <llutz> gustav: did you configure exim for smtp-auth (sasl)?
[10:07] <gustav> llutz: Yeah, at least I followed some instructions to do it. Not sure if it propagated in the files.
[10:07] <gustav> llutz: All instructions seems to be for split-file config.
[10:07] <gustav> Maybe.
[10:07] <Joanet> Hi all again. Now I'm trying to create a user profile template using /etc/skel, but I don't know how to copy the launcher bar to the template. Can anyone help me? Where is the Unity launcher config file?
[10:07] <EkielZan> How can i turn off two extended monitor with a command line like vbetool or similar. I'm just able to swith one off for the moment
[10:07] <dn4> man this generic 3.5.0-28 header thing is messing my ubuntu up it seems like
[10:08] <gustav> exim4 should just go with Apache style configs instead.
[10:08] <gustav> Easier for me. :3
[10:08] <gustav> But by then I'd have learned this.
[10:09] <Rohan> ubuntu 13.04 kernel panics on disconnecting bluetooth DUN. Please Help!
[10:09] <gustav> YES. It works.
[10:10] <gustav> Relaying, authentication, TLS.
[10:10] <gustav> :3
[10:10] <llutz> gustav: what did you have to change?
[10:10] <swagat> I love ubuntu!
[10:10] <gustav> llutz: Uncomment lines about sasl server in exim4.conf.template.
[10:11] <llutz> gustav: well. makes sense to enable sasl if oyu want to use sasl :)
[10:11] <Rohan> I love Ubuntu too!!
[10:11] <gustav> llutz: Had previously done it in conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples.
[10:11] <Rohan> @swagat which version are you using
[10:11] <gustav> llutz: Yeah. It's confusing having all the files at once.
[10:11] <swagat> @Rohan 12.10
[10:11] <oskar-> Hi all, I have a Toshiba Tecra laptop with an internal 3G modem ("Toshiba Corp. F3607gw v2 Mobile Broadband Module"), that I used to enable with "toshset -3g on", which requires a special ACPI kernel module (I took it from http://ppa.launchpad.net/keks9n/main/ubuntu). With Ubuntu 13.04 this makes my system crash. Is there a cleaner way to enable the 3G modem?
[10:12] <llutz> gustav: yep, i don#t like that either, but i switched to postfix longtime ago
[10:12] <gustav> llutz: Hmm. Why?
[10:12] <Rohan> @swagat I am using 13.04. Its awesome
[10:12] <llutz> gustav: i never got really used to exim, i always found postfix better documented
[10:13] <swagat> @Rohan I will update later for sure :)
[10:13] <Rohan> only problem I am facing is kernel panic on disconnecting bluetooth Dial up connection
[10:13] <gustav> llutz: Mailing is always extremely difficult to configure (or for me, to understand what I'm doing.) I'm glad this works... but I would like to allow sending mails encrypted, server-to-server. Guessing I have to get postfix for that. -.-"
[10:13] <Rohan> everything else is super fast
[10:14] <gustav> I'm better at Apache but my first time configuring it was when I was 8 or 10. So, it's no brain puzzle why that should be easy.
[10:15] <swagat> @Rohan. You using BSNL?
[10:15] <Rohan> yeah
[10:15] <Rohan> u?
[10:15] <Rohan> hey swagat i am new here. I have no idea what you did back there
[10:15] <swagat> I am at office now. Got some lease line stuff
[10:16] <Rohan> cool
[10:16] <Rohan> My office blocks irc freenode
[10:16] <swagat> I use my Aircel 3G at home :P
[10:17] <swagat> Maybe you can use some bypass at office :)
 do you have any ideas ?
[10:23] <ars23> hi, does anybody know why i don't have video input signal after i cleaned up my pc... i got only beeps!
[10:24] <adv_> hello
[10:24] <xzcvczx> ars23: reseat video card
[10:24] <xzcvczx> ars23: and ram
[10:24] <ars23> how i do that xzcvczx?
[10:25] <xzcvczx> well open your computer, remove the ram, reinsert the ram
[10:25] <xzcvczx> if it has a non-integrated graphics card, remove it and reinsert it
[10:25] <llutz> anjay: you saw what jrib told you?
[10:25] <adv_> hi ars23, also if you have pencil eraser try removing carbon from ram connectors....
[10:26] <moko_> LinuxNewbish, are you still here?
[10:26] <ars23> ok... thanks a lot! yes, it's non-integrated! thanks a lot, i'll try it now!
[10:26] <moko_> adv_, lol? :D
[10:26] <adv_> yep we do it all the time...
[10:27] <adv_> removes carbon effectively....
[10:29] <moko_> adv_, with a little search, it seems legit, heh..
[10:29] <adv_> hi moko_, you can give it a go...
[10:29] <moko_> adv_, i'm not experiencing any trouble with ram atm. i just found it to be a curious solution
[10:30] <adv_> Hi all. iPod classic 80GB , giving big red cross...
[10:30] <th0r> moko_: it has been a long accepted procedure for cleaning edge connectors
[10:30] <adv_> probably hdd dead, any way to get it back
[10:31] <adv_> thanks th0r, forgot to mention edge connectors
[10:32] <swagat> I need some help regarding usb modem on ubuntu 12.10
[10:32] <moko_> th0r, good to know, thx
[10:33] <Fira> Oy. Stupid question... I set interfaces as "static" in /etc/network/interfaces but Ubuntu still runs dhclient over it :/... Is that normal >.< ?
[10:33] <yoojin__> Hello all. I am faced with a very odd issue. A Logitech wireless receiver of mine works with my mouse but isn't able to function with my keyboard. One extra button which would usually AeroFlip in Windows 7+ sends a command which rotates the screen in 90 degree increments, however no other functions are accessible. WTF?
[10:34] <xzcvczx> swagat: better to state, type and issue rather than just say you have an issue
[10:34] <Fira> The IP is assigned statically okay, but there are running instances of dhclient anyway
[10:34] <swagat> I'll post the dump here asap
[10:34] <xzcvczx> yoojin__: can you run xev from another keyboard and see whether the keyboard is generating anything?
[10:34] <xzcvczx> swagat: pastebin it and paste the link
[10:35] <yoojin__> xzcvczx: I will try pronto. xev - man paging that asap.
[10:35] <yoojin__> xzcvczx, Lol, also at soonest convenience and instantaneously blahblahblah it's late. Early late. Bad late. *crazy*
[10:36] <xzcvczx> yoojin__: its not late.... its only 22:36 on friday night
[10:37] <xzcvczx> tgdut
[10:37] <yoojin__> xzcvczx, You're 16 hours ahead of me. Mind if I ask where that puts you?
[10:37] <xzcvczx> nz
[10:37] <zuzak> (that's in Prague)
[10:37] <xzcvczx> the only true timezone
[10:38] <xzcvczx> zuzak: you tell yourself that :P
[10:38] <yoojin__> America is the only timezone, whadderyou talkin' aboot?
[10:38] <zuzak> UTC mofo
[10:39] <yoojin__> xzcvczx, I'm learning a second language though. I'm not as bad as the other mcdonalds eating inbreds around here.
[10:39] <xzcvczx> yoojin__: which state are you? (CDT i assume you are)?
[10:42] <yooj> xzcvczx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628743/
[10:42] <yooj> What am I looking for anyway? /derp
[10:42] <xzcvczx> well when you press a key does an event pop up
[10:42] <spore> hello
[10:43] <yooj> Something starting with (CTRL F 1920x1080)
[10:43] <yooj> 1920, at least.
[10:43] <xzcvczx> yooj: so make sure it is the selected window and type into the window
[10:44] <yooj> xzcvczx, Yessir.
[10:44] <spore> ....
[10:44] <xzcvczx> now when you press a key on the keyboard that doesn't work (aka release the mouse) does the terminal have text added to it?
[10:45] <yooj> xzcvczx, Well, the suspend button works too.
[10:45] <xzcvczx> yooj: yes but we are not fussed about the buttons that do work.... we are fussed about those that don't :P
[10:45] <yooj> Haha
[10:45] <yooj> !
[10:46] <yooj> xzcvczx, Only those two buttons work, after a check of every button on the keyboard.
[10:46] <xzcvczx> yooj: which state are you in out of curiosity?
[10:46] <xzcvczx> yooj: yeah, but what happens in the terminal when you push one of the non-working buttons in the xev window?
[10:46] <yooj> Alabama. We're number 49. One state is 'worse' than us. That would be Mississippi.
[10:46] <phaidros> I have a system which is always full (root partition) after reboot. du -sh /* sums up to way less then the partition size. could there be a sparse file? any hint on how to deal with that?
[10:47] <xzcvczx> yooj: oh dear......
[10:47] <yooj> xzcvczx, Being privileged to have traveled a little in my life actually it's quite nice here.
[10:47] <xzcvczx> phaidros: what does df -h say?
[10:47] <yooj> xzcvczx, But you'll get people complaining about their homes.
[10:47] <xzcvczx> yooj: just don't start saying y'all in here and i will forgive you...
[10:48] <phaidros> xzcvczx: df -h says 100% full
[10:48] <xzcvczx> phaidros: yeah but are the sizes right?
[10:48] <phaidros> I am actually deinstalling unnecessary packages, but did that before and after reboot the disk was full- again ..
[10:48] <phaidros> any ideas?
[10:49] <xzcvczx> phaidros: are the sizes right in df -h?
[10:49] <tidzo> hello...adresse unbuntu french...?
[10:49] <xzcvczx> tidzo: #ubuntu-fr or something i think?
[10:49] <xzcvczx> !french
[10:49] <yooj> xzcvczx, Please do. I've been quite a jerk. So, this is a Logitech Cordless Wave. Ubuntu 13.04 is running. Arch Linux spits out messages about being unable to enumerate hardware devices on the usb port when I try the other PC. Two function buttons work. The mouse however works decently. And I have not yet tried disconnecting the mouse battery to see if only one can work at a time but my understanding limited as it may be makes me n
[10:49] <yooj> ote the fact that even something as simple as an Xbox 360 will recognize both devices and that this is a relatively new problem.
[10:51] <xzcvczx> yooj: well thats why i am trying to figure out whats going on here, as the xev will let us know whether its a configuration issue or...
[10:51] <Zync> hey guys how do i erase all data created during a ubuntu os installation if i messed up dual boot?
[10:51] <xzcvczx> Zync: messed up dual boot?
[10:52] <wallago> Can anyone help. I am trying to configure the Terminal to change the tab name whenever i ssh to a another machine.
[10:52] <wallago> The only method i have found is editing the .bashrc on the remote server but it is not practical as i have over 100 servers to configure
[10:52] <xzcvczx> Zync: does that meant your overwrote the bootloader and are unable to now boot windows? or you overwrote windows?
[10:52] <wallago> Im using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the default terminal
[10:52] <Zync> i created partitions for ubuntu but i can't run ubuntu only windows
[10:52] <yooj> xzcvczx, Do you charge by the job or hourly? Just a caring point in the right direction like xev was kinder of you than I expected.
[10:52] <xzcvczx> yooj: oh how i wish i charged at all :P
[10:53] <xzcvczx> Zync: what did you do when it came to the bootloader step of the install?
[10:53] <Zync> when i choose ubuntu 12.04 lts it tells me that error message you get when you install windows incorrectly, "pease insert windows cd yadda yada"
[10:53] <phaidros> xzcvczx: size of the partitions look ok. I have never seen such a thiung before. so I think either the fs is damaged or sparsefile craziness ..
[10:54] <phaidros> xzcvczx: any other ideas what to check?
[10:54] <moko_> Zync, have you install ubuntu yet, or just created partitions?
[10:54] <xzcvczx> phaidros: dump your dmesg onto pastebin
[10:54] <phaidros> xzcvczx: not possible, offline machine, server repair in the cellar >(
[10:55] <phaidros> what to look for in dmesg?
[10:55] <xzcvczx> phaidros: plug in a usb drive dump dmesg into a text file on usb drive and bring through?
[10:55] <xzcvczx> phaidros: any fs errors reported in it
[10:55] <Zync> i installed it, and after the restart i couldn't run it, i did the easy bcd thing to add the ubunto into the bootloader and it just doesn't work
[10:55] <xzcvczx> they will probably be quite invasive if they are in there
[10:56] <phaidros> xzcvczx: ack
[10:57] <xzcvczx> yooj: still there?
[10:58] <yooj> xzcvczx, Yep.
[10:58] <yooj> xzcvczx, Just keyboard didn't work either.
[10:58] <xzcvczx> yooj: so when you plug in a usb keyboard you aren't able to type?
[10:58] <yooj> xzcvczx, Another does. This particular one no.
[10:59] <xzcvczx> yooj: so nothing changes in the terminal you ran xev from when you type on the wireless keyboard?
[10:59] <yooj> xzcvczx, Maybe it's just broken?
[10:59] <xzcvczx> unlikely? as it works elsewhere doesn't it?
[11:00] <yooj> xzcvczx, That's correct. Save the two keys I told you about every other one doesn't produce any result.
[11:00] <Zync> @moko_ do you have any tutorial on completely erasing the ubuntu os through win7??
[11:00] <Zta> How to enable advanced file permissions in Nautilus in Ubuntu 13.04?
[11:00] <xzcvczx> yooj: do you dual boot or anything that you can test the keyboard in windows or on the xbox?
[11:00] <xzcvczx> Zta: what sort of permissions?
[11:00] <Zta> xzcvczx: http://lifehacker.com/394538/enable-advanced-permissions-dialog-in-nautilus
[11:00] <xzcvczx> Zta: referring to attributes rather than permissions?
[11:00] <yooj> xzcvczx, But. Idonwanna. xD I'll try that now.
[11:01] <yooj> xzcvczx, Thanks again, just a moment.
[11:01] <xzcvczx> Zta: thats for an old version of nautilus and probably is no longer valid
[11:01] <starbuck> wallago: i just tried it, ssh to a remote server and the tab title changes to the actual user and host. isn't that what you want to achieve?
[11:02] <Zta> xzcvczx: Yeah, that's my conclusion also, I just wanted to confirm that it wasn't true.  Pff...
[11:02] <xzcvczx> Zta: as im not running 13.04 or nautilus, the best solution might be to check your version and google nautilus+<version>+advanced permissions
[11:03] <Zta> xzcvczx: Right..
[11:04] <yooj> xzcvczx, You've been really helpful. I'm too tired for this right now, actually. Hope I see you around.
[11:04] <Zta> xzcvczx: FYI... Writing "gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences sho" and pressing Tab will name-complete on gsettings attributes =))
[11:05] <xzcvczx> yooj: k
[11:05] <yooj> xzcvczx, Thanks so much. If you are a steam gamer or something, or would like to email me at me@yooj.in that'd be coolio.
[11:05] <yooj> kcslions on steam.
[11:05] <xzcvczx> yooj: if im not in here next time feel free to just pm me as i wil probably be on the network
[11:05] <Zta> Shell tab completion in Ubuntu keeps surprising me.  It's awesome!
[11:06] <yooj> xzcvczx, Okay. Thanks!
[11:08] <lostinspace> hi
[11:09] <daze> Zta: try zsh with zprezto :)
[11:10] <xzcvczx> lostinspace: hi'
[11:10] <xzcvczx> daze: you are talking to yourself good sir :P
[11:10] <xzcvczx> daze: or rather talking to someone who is gone
[11:10] <daze> ah :)
[11:11] <daze> I need a plugin to show parting of people who were active recently :]
[11:11] <lostinspace> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 How can I add another distro ? I.E. Debian
[11:11] <xzcvczx> what do you mean by add another distro?
[11:11] <daze> dual-boot, I suppose
[11:11] <daze> partition the disk accordingly and configure grub :)
[11:11] <xzcvczx> daze: just use <tab> for autocorrect on their nicks
[11:12] <xzcvczx> autocomplete*
[11:12] <daze> xzcvczx: yeah, that also does the trick..
[11:12] <xzcvczx> :P
[11:12] <ShapeShifter499> I have another question, lets say I go through the hassle of re-installing my netbook's ubuntu server to add full disk encryption. One day I feel someone may come in to seize my server for info and I manage to log in remotely via ssh to reboot the system so it lands on the password prompt, I find out later that it was a false alarm, how do I remotely decrypt my system?
[11:12] <daze> but I tend to not use that for short nicknames :)
[11:13] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: thats why it pays to stick to just having user stuff encrytped
[11:13] <lostinspace> daze, is it possible to share my \home ?
[11:13] <daze> lostinspace: yeah
[11:13] <daze> as long as it's in it's own partition
[11:14] <lix> Good day. Since yesterday's kernel upgrade (13.04) my eth0 (ethernet interface) on my thinkpad doesn't work any longer. - How can I debug that?
[11:14] <xzcvczx> daze: can't that be a bit dangerous if you end up with different versions of software that are storing configurations?
[11:14] <xzcvczx> lix: does it show up in ifconfig?
[11:14] <daze> though you should be a bit careful if using same software on both OSes
[11:14] <lix> lix: ifconfig shoes the interface
[11:14] <xzcvczx> lix: lspci <-- look for it in there
[11:14] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, sure sure, but maybe they think having something like "tor" or some torrent app installed is suspicious and I still get in trouble
[11:14] <xzcvczx> lix: then you need to work out what exactly the problem is? if you set a static ip does it work?
[11:14] <lix> xzcvzx: but when I plugin the ethernet cable dhcp does not get an address
[11:14] <lostinspace> so I have to make a partition for \home and then other partitions to use them as "\" for the other distros ?
[11:15] <ShapeShifter499> thats why I want a full disk encryption just in case
[11:15] <daze> lostinspace: correct
[11:15] <lix> xzcvzx: will try static. - standby. thanks
[11:15] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: no there is no way to remotely boot it without a second machine with a serial cable
[11:15] <xzcvczx> well remotely enter the password
[11:15] <daze> lostinspace: you can also try and set different local config paths, so that both OSes would not use the same /home/lostinspace/.config/ for software configs and potentially cause conflicts
[11:15] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: but i hope you are not one of those people who use torrents over tor
[11:16] <lostinspace> daze,  but I have my Ubuntu using the whole hd ad "\". do I have to create a new "\home" parition?
[11:16] <lostinspace> daze: thanks! Nice, I will do it
[11:16] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: but outside of that, the softwares being installed can't be used to prove anything, but you can install those softwares inside the home directory that is encrypted anyway if you are that paranoid
[11:16] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, no but I do want to switch from big google email to a locally hosted email of my own
[11:17] <daze> lostinspace: well, you can mount Ubuntu's '/' and symlink debian's /home to debian's /home
[11:17] <daze> but that is not a good practice, I presume
[11:17] <xzcvczx> lostinspace: make sure your ubuntu home is not encrypted though
[11:17] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, I'd feel better if the whole drive was encrypted though
[11:17] <daze> (I mean debian's /home to ubuntu's /home)
[11:18] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: well you are stuck between a rock and a hard place then.... you have 2 mutually exclusive requirements
[11:18] <lix> xzcvzx: negative. neither NetworkManager (static IP) nor in the command line... :(
[11:18] <lix> xzcvzx: negative. neither NetworkManager (static IP) nor in the command line... :(
[11:18] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: i would recommend encrypt home drive
[11:18] <xzcvczx> lix: what happens when you try
[11:18] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[11:18] <daze> ShapeShifter499: have a rasberypi connected via usb acting as a keyboard :)
[11:18] <lix> xzcvzx: the only interface that works is wlan0
[11:18] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: and if they are that dedicated they can just use the coldboot technique to get around any encryption you have anyway
[11:19] <xzcvczx> lix: the only interface that works is not useful
[11:19] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, coldboot?
[11:19] <xzcvczx> lix: you need to sort of say "well the light comes on and i set the ip address but can't communicate over it" or similar
[11:19] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: google it
[11:19] <daze> xzcvczx: I suppose he uses hardware encryption, so the disk is safe either way
[11:20] <xzcvczx> daze: nah hes just using the linux provided encryption
[11:20] <lix> xzcvzx: well the problem is that the network setup in the office is such that I am in a diffrent vlan using wlan than eth. due to security. so I need to use ethernet to access the fileserver...
[11:20] <lix> xzcvzx: but that is not the problem here. the thing is that eth0 stoped working since yesterdays kernel upgrade...
[11:20] <xzcvczx> lix: that is also irrelevant to me
[11:21] <xzcvczx> lix:
[11:21] <xzcvczx> lix: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SET A STATIC IP?
[11:21] <adamsmeat> test
[11:21] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: no doesn't work
[11:22] <adamsmeat>  i added myself into www-data group but now console keeps saying im not in sudoers file
[11:22] <lix> xzcvzx: mhmm when I set a static IP, ifconfig shows the according config put the tcp packages still dont go through (e.g. no ping)
[11:22] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: how did you add youself?
[11:22] <daze> adamsmeat: you replaced your default group, I guess. Use -G, not -g when using usermod
[11:22] <xzcvczx> lix: can you ping 8.8.8.8 or preferrably a local ip address?
[11:22] <adamsmeat> im looking for the tutorial ive read earlier
[11:22] <xzcvczx> lix: as if you don't use dhcp nameservers are not automatically set
[11:23] <lix> xzcvzx: no
[11:23] <xzcvczx> lix: whats the error?
[11:23] <adamsmeat> sudo usermod -a -G www-data  vgite. thats what i did
[11:24] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: cat /etc/group and pastebin it
[11:24] <adamsmeat> ok
[11:24] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: and run id
[11:24] <xzcvczx> and include that in the pastebin
[11:25] <lix> xzcvczx: From 10.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[11:25] <adamsmeat> id result: uid=1000(adamsmeat) gid=1000(adamsmeat) groups=1000(adamsmeat),33(www-data)
[11:25] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: it seems you missed out the -a
[11:25] <adamsmeat> pastebin of group: http://paste.laravel.com/qgI
[11:25] <adamsmeat> -a is for?
[11:26] <xzcvczx> lix: and is that the ip address you set or a remote address?
[11:26] <adamsmeat> how can i resolve? i lost my admin like rights
[11:26] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: append
[11:26] <adamsmeat> I see.
[11:26] <adamsmeat> Can I use root?
[11:26] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: yeah thats where it gets rather awkward... have you got a ubuntu cd/usb drive?
[11:26] <adamsmeat> yes
[11:26] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, daze I found this http://superuser.com/questions/407994/single-ubuntu-on-ubuntu-virtualization-for-ssh-rescue-access-and-disk-decryption
[11:26] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: reboot into that and come back and speak to us from that
[11:26] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: use the live environment don't reinstall
[11:26] <adamsmeat> i will
[11:27] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: thats using virtualization
[11:27] <adamsmeat> gotcha
[11:27] <manse> does anybody know what the requirements for a landscape server are?
[11:27] <lix> xzcvczx: correct
[11:28] <xzcvczx> lix: please don't say correct when the question has an or in it
[11:28] <daze> ShapeShifter499: virtualization will be quite slow, depending on what the server is doing. Encrypting only the data partition (or similar) is the best choice, though not as secure.
[11:28] <lix> xzcvczx: strangely I get no error. no msg in syslog. just as if there was no cable physically attached
[11:29] <lix> xzcvczx: but I tested the ethernet cable it works with any other device
[11:29] <daze> ShapeShifter499: what are you trying to protect against?
[11:29] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, daze that led me to this
[11:29] <ShapeShifter499> xzcvczx, daze http://blog.nguyenvq.com/2011/09/13/remote-unlocking-luks-encrypted-lvm-using-dropbear-ssh-in-ubuntu/
[11:29] <xzcvczx> daze: needing to wear a tinfoil hat i believe
[11:30] <daze> ShapeShifter499: booting first into dropbear will work
[11:30] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: you also get quite a performance hit from FDE
[11:31] <daze> but if someone compromises the server, she can alter the dropbear binaries and read your password once you're unsuspecting anything :)
[11:31] <lix> xzcvczx: correct
[11:31] <lix> xzcvczx: strangely I get no error. no msg in syslog. just as if there was no cable physically attached
[11:31] <lix> xzcvczx: but I tested the ethernet cable it works with any other device
[11:31] <xzcvczx> lix: i got your messages already
[11:31] <xzcvczx> lix: and is that the ip address you set or a remote address?
[11:31] <xzcvczx> for the ping error?
[11:32] <lix> xzcvczx: remote
[11:32] <xzcvczx> then your network is working
[11:32] <xzcvczx> you haven't set your default gateway i assume
[11:33] <xzcvczx> route add default gw <gateway ip address>
[11:33] <ShapeShifter499> daze, I have a 16348 bit rsa ssh setup with no password, the private key is setup with a 20 alphanumeric phrase
[11:33] <xzcvczx> without the < and >
[11:34] <xzcvczx> ShapeShifter499: why such an insanely high bit?
[11:34] <daze> ShapeShifter499: when you enter the password on boot, an attacker can intercept it if she has physical access to the machine :)
[11:34] <daze> also, anything higher than 4096bit is overkill
[11:35] <daze> some would argue 2048 is more than enough
[11:35] <xzcvczx> or just use elliptic-curve which is significantly better
[11:35] <xzcvczx> wb adamsmeat
[11:35] <adamsmeat> hi!
[11:35] <adamsmeat> now wilth the live cd
[11:35] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ok do you know which partition your ubuntu install is on?
[11:35] <adamsmeat> what i remember sda8
[11:36] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: do you dualboot?
[11:36] <adamsmeat> yup
[11:36] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: 8 seems rather high
[11:36] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ok, open up a terminal
[11:36] <adamsmeat> i got lots of partitions from windows
[11:36] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: are you at a $ or a #?
[11:36] <adamsmeat> $
[11:36] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[11:37] <lix> xzcvczx: sorry. I needed to switch to the other irssi server, cause I cannot thest the interface on the computerthat I am debugging the interface. The ping error shows (logically) the source address, not the remote. - sorry was mistaken. Gateway and netmask are set correctly. the problem must be elsewhere. also DHCP must work, as it always did *before* the yesterdays kernel upgrade
[11:37] <adamsmeat> done
[11:37] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ls /mnt
[11:37] <xzcvczx> is boot etc dev ... in there?
[11:37] <PeterSJC> Hello... I just installed 13.04 (AMD 64 bit). At end of installation, I clicked the button to restart my computer. It issued a few messages, the last of which was "* Asking all remaining processes to terminate..."  And then nothing happens. Any suggestions?
[11:38] <adamsmeat> yeah. all three in here
[11:38] <xzcvczx> PeterSJC: remove installation device and hold down power button
[11:38] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ok cd /etc
[11:38] <lix> xzcvczx: ok. again: syslog does not show a problem. dhcpclient does not pull an address, the interface is up (ifconfig) but no data package flows through...
[11:38] <xzcvczx> lix: on the switch does the light that the cable is plugged into light up?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> lix: even if you run dhclient manually?
[11:39] <adamsmeat> xzcvczx: done
[11:39] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: now do you know any of the command line text editors?
[11:39] <adamsmeat> yeah
[11:39] <adamsmeat> vi
[11:39] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ok vi /etc/group
[11:40] <adamsmeat> sudo?
[11:40] <xzcvczx> yes sorry
[11:40] <adamsmeat> there
[11:40] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: one moment please
[11:40] <adamsmeat> np.
[11:40] <xzcvczx> daze: what group is sudoers/admins in ubuntu?
[11:40] <PeterSJC> xzcvczx: Thanks, I'm trying that now.
[11:41] <xzcvczx> or can someone that can sudo on ubuntu run id and paste results to pastebin
[11:41] <daze> 'sudo', I guess
[11:41]  * daze is running Arch :)
[11:41] <xzcvczx> daze: lol you are as bad as me
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628868/
[11:41] <histo> xzcvczx: the sudo group
[11:42] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: cna you see sudo at the start of a line in that file?
[11:42] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: histo: thanks
[11:42] <adamsmeat> root
[11:42] <adamsmeat> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[11:42] <adamsmeat> when I did id
[11:42] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: lol, that wasn't for you
[11:43] <adamsmeat> i thought, it will be the same
[11:43] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ok, so in the file can you paste the line that has "sudo" on it?
[11:43] <Unknown0BC> Hello :)
[11:43] <lix> xzcvczx: checked in the server room. strangely the light on the switch flickers
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> hi Unknown0BC
[11:43] <histo> adamsmeat: No you are logged in as root or you did sudo id
[11:43] <adamsmeat> butsudo:x:27:ubuntu
[11:43] <xzcvczx> lix: sure that its the right cable then?
[11:43] <m1chael> i just bought a cheap asus notebook running windows 8. i'm having a terrible time doing things i've been doing since 1996. like booting up linux,redo backup, etc... should i just return this POS?
[11:43] <lix> xzcvczx: affirm, Sir
[11:43] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: vi /mnt/etc/group
[11:43] <adamsmeat> ok
[11:43] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: sorry can you exit vi and run that one instead
[11:43] <histo> m1chael: what kind of cpu does it have?
[11:43] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: sorry... blond moment
[11:44] <daze> m1chael: what does win8 have to do with booting up linux? :)
[11:44] <adamsmeat> there
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: should be fine, just dont use wubi
[11:44] <ejv> m1chael: https://www.system76.com/laptops/
[11:44] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: find the line that starts with sudo and paste it
[11:44] <adamsmeat> im in mounted file now
[11:44] <lix> ActionParsnip: already tried, tks
[11:44] <histo> m1chael: I'm assuming a Intel Atom z2760 or something cloverview
[11:44] <ejv> m1chael: disclaimer, im not affiliate with system76 in any way.
[11:44] <adamsmeat> sudo:x:27:
[11:44] <histo> m1chael: That does not work in linux
[11:44] <lix> xzcvczx: I am postitive that it has to do with the yesterdays kernel upgrade
[11:44] <m1chael> 1.1GHz Intel Celeron 847 Dual-Core
[11:44] <adamsmeat> thats all it got in that line
[11:44] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: make it say sudo:x:27:<your username> without the <>'s
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: more than a lot of my systems
[11:44] <histo> m1chael: Hrm... Shouldn't be an issue.
[11:45] <histo> !uefi | m1chael
[11:45] <adamsmeat> i see
[11:45] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: then paste it back in hhere
[11:45] <xzcvczx> lix: but that doesn't explain why its not working
[11:45] <ejv> paying the win 8 tax is absurd, buy an ubuntu branded laptop from system76
[11:45] <leichtgewicht> Hello everybody! I try to set the antialiasing setting via command line and wonder how to do that.
[11:45] <adamsmeat> done
[11:45] <xzcvczx> lix: typically hardware regressions get found pretty quick or don't make it into a release
[11:45] <lix> xzcvczx: ack
[11:45] <histo> ejv: there is no tax. You can't buy a stupid machine with out windows. The system 76 stuff is over priced
[11:45] <adamsmeat> sudo:x:27:adamsmeat
[11:45] <m1chael> i hate UEFI
[11:45] <xzcvczx> lix: have you got ethtool installed?
[11:46] <wenming> hello
[11:46] <adamsmeat> so this should make me sudoer now?
[11:46] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: ok save, exit, reboot
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> !uefi | m1chael
[11:46] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: yes
[11:46] <histo> m1chael: Well you need to know about it if you bought something that runs windows 8.
[11:46] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: reboot into your installed system
[11:46] <lix> xzcvczx: thanks for your help, will try a few commands. - and will try ethtool thank you!
[11:46] <adamsmeat> awesome! thank you.
[11:46] <ejv> histo: i think the prices are quite reasonable for the hardware
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> histo: you can buy oem lappys with no OS
[11:46] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: we can repair the other groups after you reboot
[11:46] <DRatJr> Can somebody tell me if resetting my pc in windows 8 will restore uefi and everything to default?
[11:46] <adamsmeat> btw, when we do mnt, its just like we're using a physical cd drive?
[11:46] <xzcvczx> lix: ethtool will tell you if it detects a physical connection
[11:46] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: actually if you haven't rebooted yet
[11:46] <xzcvczx> cd /
[11:47] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: then umount /mnt
[11:47] <subthalamus> should the pulse-rt group exist on raring?
[11:47] <adamsmeat> im still here
[11:47] <adamsmeat> umount or unmount?
[11:47] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: umount
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> adamsmeat: without the n :)
[11:47] <adamsmeat> this is for?
[11:47] <histo> ActionParsnip: very few of them.
[11:47] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: best practices
[11:47] <DRatJr> ?
[11:47] <adamsmeat> i see. thanks
[11:47] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: it just unmounts the device
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> histo: they do exist though, is my point
[11:48] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: the original person to create the utilities couldn't spell :P
[11:48] <adamsmeat> I see. :)
[11:48] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: i am turned off 76 by the fact they come with dead tech
[11:48] <adamsmeat> Ill be back
[11:48] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: k
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: how do you mean 'dead tech'?
[11:49] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: optical :)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: its handy for out and about DVD playback
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> etc
[11:49] <histo> xzcvczx: optical is not a dead tech
[11:49] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: but thats what i find dumb, its optional on higher range laptops but only option for low range ones
[11:50] <PeterSJC> Does Ubuntu dislike KVM switches? After I logged in, the Ubuntu stuff disappeared from my screen, replaced by a rather pretty fine-grained color pattern.
[11:50] <histo> !nomodeset | PeterSJC
[11:50] <xzcvczx> histo: it is as far as im concerned, all i use optical for these days is like 1ce a year to rip a dvd into a backup on my computer
[11:50] <lix> xzcvczx: FYI: ifconfig says on eth0 "Interrupt:20 Memory:f2500000-f2520000" - hw failure? broken memory sector?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: still not dead
[11:50] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: but it should be optional
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> lix: check ram with memtest from grub
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: i guess
[11:51] <adamsmeat> xzcvczx im back
[11:51] <lix> ActionParsnip: fo the interface? will that work?
[11:51] <lix> memtest eth0?
[11:51] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: also usb-cddrives are so abundant these days all is well
[11:51] <xzcvczx> lix: no just test your system ram
[11:51] <qwertzui11> hey guys, im looking for someone who would test my litte techdemo and tell me if it works (I'm especially intressted in ati-graphic-cards). Currently I built for amd64 and ubuntu >=12.04 only. http://voxel.markus-lanner.com/voxel_techdemo2.tar.gz pls checkout the dependencies file before running the script "./start"
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> lix: well, it will use ram for stuff, could be affecing. Worth a quick test
[11:51] <adamsmeat> xzcvczx: btw, im able to sudo now
[11:51] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: cool
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> lix: in reply to 'memtest eth0'  try reading what I put....
[11:52] <lix> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:52] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: diff /etc/group /etc/group-
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: but then you have to lug around extra modules
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: internal is a lot cleaner
[11:52] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: yeah sure, but hence why it shoudl be optional.... 1x per year that i use it makes it completely useless
[11:53] <xzcvczx> and very few people i know use them even that often
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: yes, YOU...everyone doesnt use their system just like you
[11:53] <adamsmeat> xzcvczx: http://paste.laravel.com/qgR
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> xzcvczx: ignorant much
[11:53] <xzcvczx> ActionParsnip: very few people i know as well
[11:53] <bazhang> !ot
[11:54] <bazhang> lets get back to Ubuntu support please
[11:54] <adamsmeat> xzcvczx: did ubuntu auto created that backup file?
[11:54] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: yeah
[11:54] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: sudo mv /etc/group- /etc/group
[11:55] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: then log out and log in again
[11:55] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: then run id and pastebin it
[11:55] <adamsmeat> ok
[11:55] <stone_cold> hi, I have core 2 duo cpu with 2.95 gb of ram... Can it handle Ubuntu or shld I go with Lubuntu instead ??
[11:55] <hoovog> Hi guys, if a proprietary software had some GPL code within it and only provided binary code, how do we know whether it used gpl code or not?
[11:55] <xzcvczx> stone_cold: it will easily handle ubuntu
[11:55] <xzcvczx> stone_cold: its a matter of choice
[11:55] <xzcvczx> hoovog: there are ways, but it requires a fair bit of work
[11:56] <xzcvczx> hoovog: what are you reasons for wanting to know?
[11:56] <srbh21> how can I remove unity from ubuntu 12.10?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> stone_cold: I find LXDE+OpenBox more stable and less glitchy than Gnome+Compiz. GIve it a try, you can have both installed. YOu will simply choose at login time
[11:56] <xzcvczx> srbh21: why do you need to?
[11:56] <bazhang> !notunity | srbh21
[11:57] <bazhang> srbh21, dont remove just install another shell and select that at login
[11:57] <srbh21> thanks a lot room
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> srbh21: I'd just install the session you want and leave Unity installed. Lots easier
[11:57] <xzcvczx> wb adamsmeat
[11:58] <adamsmeat>  xzcvczx: im back
[11:58] <srbh21> xzcvczx: i dont like the unity env..moreover i am pretty used to the gnome one and find no reason why should I learn unity
[11:58] <xzcvczx> srbh21: yeah, i was mainly making the point ActionParsnip made, than you can isntall something else without removing unity
[11:58] <adamsmeat> wb?
[11:58] <bazhang> srbh21, so install gnome-shell and add some extensions to it
[11:58] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: welcome back :P
[11:58] <adamsmeat> don't know that
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> srbh21: install xfce4 and log off and log in to the XFCE session, it wil have the familiar 2 panel feel
[11:58] <adamsmeat> :) sorry. i learn irc jsut lately
[11:58] <adamsmeat> btw, thanks.
[11:59] <pauser> hi, who tested ubuntu 13.04 , does it have gnome 3.8? I like the gnome-shell classic mode and im not sure if that version has it ?!
[11:59] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: be aware if you nuke yourself from sudo your only real option with the default install is to reboot into a live session and mount
[11:59] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: or run single user mode
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> pauser: 3.6, there is a PPA for 3.8
[11:59] <srbh21> adamsmeat: xzcvczx  bazhang  thanks guyz got it
[11:59] <ubuntuaddicted> whats the easiest way to find large files in my /home/ partition using the command line?
[11:59] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: #define large
[11:59] <adamsmeat> I just realized it now. Is it ok if i create another admin account?
[11:59] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: man find. It has a command line param for size IIRC
[12:00] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: yup
[12:00] <bazhang> pauser, there's a PPA for it, but best to avoid as it's VERY unstable
[12:00] <pauser> ActionParsnip: Aha , thanks . what about the extensions on 3.8 does anything work there !
[12:00] <adamsmeat> great!
[12:00] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, i'm looking for a command suggestion, not someone telling me to read the man pages
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: you can use bash to show all files then pipe to sort to make the largest show at the top
[12:00] <snuggl> ubuntuaddicted: the "du" command shows disk usage
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> pauser: not used it, sorry
[12:00] <snuggl> for files and directories
[12:00] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: be very careful when editing /etc/group manually though
[12:00] <ubuntuaddicted> xzcvczx, maybe anything over 100mb
[12:00] <snuggl> ubuntuaddicted: add the correct flags etc and it will do what you want
[12:00] <snuggl> ubuntuaddicted: start with "du -hs" in your home dir
[12:01] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: then yeah, use the find with size options
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: you can use:  du -sh /path/to/folder    to see the sizes of the folders in a directory
[12:01] <adamsmeat> I will. The only thing i missed from windows is navicat.
[12:01] <adamsmeat> but im comfortable with raring.
[12:01] <xzcvczx> navicat?
[12:01] <adamsmeat> java app for databases
[12:01] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: oh - you want someone to do it all for you?
[12:01] <adamsmeat> read, write, etc.
[12:01] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: what sort of dbs?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> why not use SQL...
[12:02] <snuggl> adamsmeat: navicat is available for linux
[12:02] <adamsmeat> plenty. mysql, pgres, etc.
[12:02] <adamsmeat> it runs on wine
[12:02] <adamsmeat> it feels slow on me
[12:02] <xzcvczx> adamsmeat: there will most likely be an equivalent app to be found
[12:02] <histo> ubuntuaddicted: find /home/username -size +100M
[12:02] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, you're sarcastic nature is not needed in a help forum. this help forum isn't here for people to say, go read the man pages IMO. i'll get help from the other people. bye
[12:02] <adamsmeat> so just using mysql workbench now as Im working with mysql atm
[12:02] <ubuntuaddicted> histo, thanks, will try
[12:03] <snuggl> adamsmeat: they run a java app through wine..?
[12:03] <snuggl> wth
[12:03] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: not sarcastic, Accurate. Anyway, you got what you want.
[12:03] <adamsmeat> not really. I actually meant a java-like app just to differentiate from a web app
[12:03] <histo> ubuntuaddicted: find is very powerfull and worth learning
[12:04] <adamsmeat> so more like windows native application.
[12:04] <snuggl> adamsmeat: ah
[12:04] <ubuntuaddicted> histo, i use find with the -name a lot just haven't used the -size syntax much. thanks
[12:05] <adamsmeat> i'll continue with my apache journey now. I still can't leave php, how i wish someone will pay me to focus on nodejs
[12:05] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: man is really helpful. Seriously. / allows you to search. /size would have given you your answer
[12:05] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, thanks
[12:06] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: np
[12:06] <Joanet> Hi all again. Now I'm trying to create a user profile template using /etc/skel, but I don't know how to copy the launcher bar to the template. Can anyone help me? Where is the Unity launcher config file?
[12:06] <anew> how do i get this file libapache2-mod-php5 in ubuntu
[12:06] <histo> ubuntuaddicted: that's what I did to remember the size arguments
[12:06] <ubuntuaddicted> WOW, a 20GB /home/ partition is not big enough at all. :(  I need to uninstall Team Fortress 2 to install the Portal BETA
[12:07] <xzcvczx> anew: search php in software center
[12:07] <anew> search php ? what ?
[12:07] <histo> ubuntuaddicted: /home is where all your user's data and configs go
[12:07] <xzcvczx> anew: really?
[12:07] <xzcvczx> anew: you running server or desktop?
[12:07] <anew> server
[12:07] <DaemonAU> anew: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:07] <histo> !find libapache2-mod-php5 | anew
[12:07] <xzcvczx> anew: !server
[12:08] <anew> but i tried sudo apt-get libapache2-mod-php5 and it didnt work ?
[12:08] <xzcvczx> sudo apt-get install ....
[12:08] <anew> ah
[12:08] <histo> anew: sudo apt-get install
[12:08] <anew> yeah
[12:08] <ubuntuaddicted> histo, i never really used to game in linux until valve released STEAM for linux and now my 20GB /home/ partition just filled up so fast
[12:08] <anew> theanks
[12:08] <xzcvczx> histo: my bad... stole your help :P
[12:08] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: and to think... my first games were on fdd's
[12:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> howdy folks
[12:09] <ubuntuaddicted> xzcvczx, yeap. my dad had a macintosh plus and games were on floppies also
[12:09] <xzcvczx> ntzrmtthihu777: morning
[12:10] <xzcvczx> jtrucks10: your connection sucks!
[12:10] <ubuntuaddicted> WOW, i just uninstalled Team Fortress 2 and that freed up about 13.5GB.
[12:10] <wenming> good evening guys
[12:10] <ubuntuaddicted> is there a way to have steam install games to another hard drive?
[12:10] <histo> 6
[12:10] <DaemonAU> xzcvczx: my first game was on a TRS-80 clone, try loading a game at 500 baud :)
[12:10] <histo> ubuntuaddicted: you'd have to ask the steam peeps
[12:10] <xzcvczx> DaemonAU: im not that old :)
[12:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh.
[12:11] <betrayd> gramps
[12:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> odd that ya'll should be discussing gaming atm.
[12:12] <DaemonAU> double sided tapes were frustrating if they failed at the end :)
[12:12] <xzcvczx> DaemonAU: as were fdd's
[12:13] <ubuntuaddicted> did you guys see that Valve released Portal BETA for linux?
[12:13] <b0b0b0> whats portal
[12:13] <xzcvczx> some game
[12:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> working on extracting cursors and icons from the old starcraft game, building a complete cursor theme from it. anyone care to test/comment on it if you're familiar with the old game?
[12:13] <DaemonAU> xzcvczx: Insert disk 11 of 13 *crunch* CRC error
[12:13] <b0b0b0> oh
[12:13] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I remember starcraft with melee
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> b0b0b0: it involves ray-guns that produce linked portals. think symlinks in real life
[12:14] <xzcvczx> DaemonAU: haha yup, and you wondered why there was such a high suicide rate in those days.... it wasn't just the depression, it was damn fdd's
[12:14] <b0b0b0> ya i remember it now, got good reviews
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: good game, no?
[12:14] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: disregard I'm thinking of starcontrol
[12:14] <DaemonAU> xzcvczx: heh
[12:14] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: http://www.star-control.com/sc2/  game was the bomb
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: oh I remember that game :D
[12:15] <DaemonAU> for me it meant a 20 minute bike ride to go copy the game again
[12:15] <histo> Someone really needs to make an online melee game like that.  Would be very popular
[12:15] <xzcvczx> DaemonAU: they were good for getting out of doing assignments for school though.... put assignment on disk then take a magnet to it
[12:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> well we are on one of the best developement platforms just by being linux users, make one :P
[12:16] <qwertzui11> im looking for someone who would test my litte techdemo and tell me if it works (I'm especially intressted in ati-graphic-cards). Currently I built for amd64 and ubuntu >=12.04 only. http://voxel.markus-lanner.com/voxel_techdemo2.tar.gz pls checkout the dependencies file before running the script "./start"
[12:16] <qwertzui11> would really make me happy :)
[12:16] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I will some day stop being lazy and dev it for android but it neesd to be multiplayer
[12:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I'm working on a RPG Maker XP port right now :P
[12:17] <xzcvczx> http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/liero/ <--- this was an awesome game.... you ran that with options on full, got the bannana bombs set off hundreds of those at a time and they will still bring top of the line computers of today to their knees
[12:18] <ubuntuaddicted> from what I've seen Portal is a fun puzzle type game and is worth the $9.99 IMO
[12:20] <Akael_> Portal rocks
[12:20] <Akael_> I have no idea what is going on in this conversation, but I saw the very last line and had to say that.
[12:20]  * Akael_ goes back to power-idling.
[12:21] <ubuntuaddicted> Akael_, valve released a Linux BETA
[12:21] <ubuntuaddicted> we need more AAA game titles in linux
[12:21] <Akael_> Whoa, for reals?  The original or something new?
[12:22] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: alcoholics anonymous's?
[12:22] <Akael_> Uh, sorry, I should just read back, huh
[12:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akael_: whatcha talkin bout
[12:23] <xzcvczx> portal
[12:23] <subthalamus> i'm at a loss for troubleshooting sound on raring here
[12:23] <xzcvczx> and whether its portal 2 beta or portal beta i believe
[12:23] <ubuntuaddicted> Akael_, YES, Portal was released as a BETA for Linux, buy it for $9.99 USD thru steam
[12:23] <histo> !sound | subthalamus
[12:23] <xzcvczx> subthalamus: whats happening?
[12:24] <ubuntuaddicted> xzcvczx, triple A titles, meaning the best of the best titles like Battlefield 3, Call of Duty Ghosts, etc etc
[12:24] <DaemonAU> I wish ubuntu had a decent equalizer
[12:24] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: ah, how boring
[12:24] <DaemonAU> biggest missing audio component
[12:24] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: is ghosts even out yet?
[12:24] <ubuntuaddicted> xzcvczx, no, not till november 21st or some where around then
[12:25] <xzcvczx> ubuntuaddicted: it would be really nice if linuce got it 6mo before other platforms :P
[12:25] <ubuntuaddicted> ok, i'm off to go create my youtube video for the day. bye guys
[12:25] <xzcvczx> linux*
[12:32] <subthalamus> histo: yea, I've spent a couple hours doing all of that. I've seriously followed those and other troubleshooting steps
[12:33] <subthalamus> histo: I'm going to have to just re-install ubuntu from scratch
[12:33] <subthalamus> histo: pavucontrol shows the soundbar but no sound / booted from a livecd, sound works fine
[12:35] <subthalamus> histo: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ef3c7c78743527c451a6cb433f0584c019d64c9a
[12:40] <anew> anyone know any good dedicated server providors in america ?
[12:41] <DaemonAU> anew: why would you want the hassle of dedicated?
[12:42] <anew> hassle? i just dont want ot use rackspace anymore, but they are too expensive.  and i tried linode and they are not as good
[12:42] <DaemonAU> rackspace are amongst the best I've found, otherwise go for a decent EC2 instance
[12:43] <DaemonAU> if you're looking at saving costs then virtualised is certainly the best option
[12:44] <anew> rackspace is just so expensive
[12:44] <DaemonAU> yeah, but for a reason :) Most other providers are horrid to deal with
[12:44] <Hanmac> i dont know where ecactly the error is but when i switch between TTY1 and Graphical output the Xorg crashs and all programms are closed ...
[12:44] <Mick271> Hello folks, is there something special in ubuntu regarding repo pinning ? I am using the same trick I use in debian but the system does not seems to want to pick the pinned(up) repo ?
[12:45] <betrayd> Hanmac: all the time?
[12:45] <xzcvczx> DaemonAU: im surprised at the stability and pricing that amazon has managed to achieve
[12:45] <Hanmac> betrayd: yes, but i didnt find the cause yet
[12:46] <anew> xzcvczx is amazon good
[12:47] <xzcvczx> anew: i never had any problems with it, but i never had any mission critical systems running on it either
[12:47] <maricel> !ciao
[12:47] <maricel> !list
[12:47] <xzcvczx> lol really
[12:47] <betrayd> Hanmac: proprietary graphics driver or open?
[12:48] <betrayd> bye maricel
[12:49] <Hanmac> betrayd: fglrx (but i need to investigate more)
[12:50] <betrayd> Hanmac: had that before but it was random and that made it harder to troubleshoot
[12:50] <DaVinciIT> hi all. I would like to 'uninstall Fedora' and install Ubuntu over. how to? thank you.
[12:51] <auronandace> DaVinciIT: just install ubuntu normally and when you get to partitioning remember to format the partition with fedora on it
[12:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> DaVinciIT: what he said. easy as pie.
[12:52] <Myrtti> DaVinciIT: do you have /home on a separate partition? did you want to keep the personal files?
[12:52] <betrayd> DaVinciIT: is Fedora on an lvm
[12:52] <DaVinciIT> I've partions with Fedora and partition with Windows7
[12:52] <DaVinciIT> I would like to uninstall Fedora only.
[12:54] <Zignd> DaVinciIT you could use OSUnintaller
[12:54] <Zignd> DaVinciIT: you could use OSUnintaller
[12:54] <DaVinciIT> perfect thank you.
[12:54] <Zync> hey this isn't really related to ubuntu but does the recovery partition require unused space in it?
[12:55] <Zignd> I don't think so
[12:55] <auronandace> Zync: ask in ##windows
[12:55] <Hanmac> betrayd: hm it happens for me all the time, but the log files does not say something about
[12:56] <betrayd> Hanmac: yeah thats tough, and it would only tell me 'Closing to resume vt session' and thats about it
[12:57] <betrayd> Hanmac: wait a sec, how do you start your X, normal boot automatically brings up X, login screen? or autologin?
[12:57] <betrayd> Hanmac: or via startx
[12:58] <asteriskATmarmuD> I got 2 fresh ubuntu 12.04 servers. On one of them I can't login via ssh using putty. after entering my username and the correct password I get "access denied". using ssh to connect from the other ubuntu server it works. hint: when it works it says "user@server's password:". when it doesn't it only shows "password:" without mentioning the user who is trying to log in
[12:58] <betrayd> Hanmac: IIRC I had to ditch the login DM permanently and just used startx (as a workaround)
[12:59] <Hanmac> betrayd: normal boot (i think) ... the lighdm does start the X ... when i go back to the graphical i get the login (imo its okay ... BUT all programs are closed/crashed)
[12:59] <auronandace> asteriskATmarmuD: are you trying to login to the servers from a windows box?
[12:59] <asteriskATmarmuD> auronandace: yes
[12:59] <ajith> I did fresh installation ubuntu 10.04 so as i update i am getting ba signature error and OS not updating
[13:00] <auronandace> asteriskATmarmuD: ok, i was just wondering why you were using putty instead of plain ssh, nevermind
[13:00] <ajith> but before previously 10.04 installed ones are getting updates and working fine why can i knwo the resaon
[13:00] <ajith> and able to install kde sucessfully in old ones but not in newly installed
[13:01] <auronandace> ajith: 10.04 desktop support ends on the 9th
[13:01] <ajith> okay do we get updates for older ones 10.04
[13:02] <ajith> and newly installed ones will get updates or not
[13:02] <auronandace> ajith: what do you mean?
[13:02] <auronandace> ajith: after the 9th 10.04 is only supported on the server for the next 2 years
[13:02] <Zync> hey. the pen drive in which I used to install ubuntu now isn't recognized by my pc...I can't access the files i it
[13:02] <ajith> I am getting updates for those which are installed a week back ..they are working fine and new ones are not getting any updates
[13:03] <auronandace> ajith: releases older than 10.04 are no longer supported
[13:03] <betrayd> Zync: mounted?
[13:03] <ajith> okay ...
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:03] <ajith> I just want to know how longer the older ones installed will get updates..
[13:03] <ubu> can anyone help me with my xorg.conf for dual display? 2 x-server windows? 1 is a computer monitor and the other is a tv hooked up to the s-video port. i can't use nvidia-settings because the 96.43 driver is too old it says
[13:03] <jrib> ajith: define "older ones"
[13:03] <auronandace> ajith: i don't understand what you mean by older ones
[13:04] <ajith> the ones which are installed a week or 10 days back (10.04 version) they are working fine
[13:04] <Zync> betrayd: yeah, i used universal usb installer
[13:05] <jrib> ajith: as auronandace said, 10.04 has support for a few more days only on the desktop (on the server, it has 2 more year of support).  You should upgrade immediately if you are using desktop packages
[13:05] <betrayd> ubu possible http://is.gd/JpPkHH
[13:05] <ajith> okay thanku
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ubu , which model nvidia  graphics?
[13:05] <betrayd> ubu thats using xrandr
[13:05] <ubu> BluesKaj, MX 440
[13:05] <ajith> okay one mnute can you give me clarity...i will explain you the thing
[13:06] <betrayd> Zync: at the very least your file manager should show it like a CD
[13:06] <BluesKaj> ubu and your ubuntu version?
[13:06] <ubu> BluesKaj, mythbuntu 12.04
[13:06] <Zync> in the computer management window i already formated it but the pc doesnt assign a letter to it like G: as it used to
[13:06] <auronandace> ajith: it doesn't matter when you installed 10.04, the support remains as stated
[13:06] <ajith> okay
[13:06] <betrayd> Zync: in windows right now?
[13:07] <Zync> betrayd: yeah
[13:07] <betrayd> Zync: it will show if ut was formatted to ntfs or fat fat32
[13:07] <ubu> betrayd, using xrandr -q doesn't show my TV which is hooked up via s-video
[13:08] <betrayd> ubu: there's your problem
[13:08] <nyuszika7h> !info linux
[13:08] <Zync> betrayd: fat32
[13:08] <betrayd> ubu what about BIOS settings, can it show boot messges
[13:09] <ubu> betrayd, pretty sure I have to make a custom xorg.conf
[13:09] <Zync> betrayd: it also says healthy(active, primary partition)
[13:09] <betrayd> Zync: thats the good news then
[13:09] <Zync> betrayd: how can i access the files in it though?
[13:09] <betrayd> ubu: even better, but planning on upgrading nvidia soon?
[13:10] <Zync> betrayd: it gives me that error 10 unable to start device
[13:10] <betrayd> zync in WIn i use linux live usb installer lilli
[13:10] <ubu> betrayd, nope, trying to use the hardware I already have. it's not a make or break thing, just would be nice to get tv out working. this is actually my file server and there happens to be a 32" TV sitting next to it
[13:11] <maxLimit> Where to find assistance about development about Audacity?
[13:12] <betrayd> ubu installing the driver could make it unavailable while you're tinkering with it unless you already have a screensaver saying Please stand by
[13:12] <auronandace> !alis | maxLimit
[13:12] <BluesKaj> ubu , looks difficult for 11yr old graphics , my only suggestion is to check the nvidia driver site
[13:12] <ubu> betrayd, installing what driver? i already am using the proper nvidia driver, 96.43
[13:12] <betrayd> ubu see what BluesKaj said ^
[13:13] <ubu> BluesKaj, ok, thanks anyway. i can't even find an xorg.conf file. lol
[13:13] <Zync> betrayd: but the problem is now i can't even use lili usb creator because the system doesn't recognize the flash drive
[13:13] <betrayd> zync i'd reboot win, its flaky that way for me sometimes
[13:14] <betrayd> when it comes to usb sticks, unplug anything else USB
[13:15] <Zync> betrayd: no success, i'll try with this udb flash drive on another pc and see if it works
[13:15] <betrayd> ok, zync maybe its reached its RW limit...
[13:16] <betrayd> and became a USelessB stick
[13:16] <Zync> betrayd: forever?
[13:17] <betrayd> no i'd try it on a newer PC or lappy Zync
[13:18] <betrayd> zync but I might not trust it for critical data anymore
[13:20] <captine> hi all.  any ideas on how  to start to  troubleshoot random freeze ups requiring hard reboot?  13.04 acer aspire 4755G laptop.
[13:20] <Guest54801> hello all, when ever i launch my update manager it starts searching for updates only to display "failed to download repository information help pls
[13:21] <uberamd> Guest54801: what happens when you run a sudo apt-get update
[13:21] <captine> dmesg results may be the place to start?  looks like all sorts of issues... :(
[13:21] <Guest54801> uberamd...let me try and get back to you
[13:21] <uberamd> Guest54801: thanks
[13:22] <elkng> when I have some programm, and it has executable bit set and I use "./toolname" it says: "sh: ./toolname: Permission denied", what could be the problem ?
[13:22] <Geeky1991> I have installed bumblebee on my Ubuntu 13.04 but it is stll getting heated up quite a lot
[13:22] <Geeky1991> What should I do?
[13:23] <Guest54801> @uberamd: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/scopes-packagers/adult-scopes/ubuntu/dists/quantal/Release  Unable to find expected entry '12.10/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[13:23] <Guest54801> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:23] <Guest54801> abdul@abdul-HP-ProBook-6560b:~$
[13:23] <uberamd> Guest54801: you may want to remove that PPA
[13:23] <Guest54801> thats what i get when I do sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <Guest54801> how do i remove it pls
[13:23] <uberamd> Guest54801: Should be able to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:24] <uberamd> Guest54801: It's likely listed in there
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest54801: it supports Quantal
[13:24] <Zync> betrayd: good news i can see it on another computer but still not on mine
[13:24] <tapas> hi, is there a usb disc creator that doesn't horribly fail like the one in ubuntu 13.04
[13:24] <Guest54801> seriously am new to ubuntu kindly give me the command
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest54801: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:24] <Geeky1991> How do I prevent my laptop from getting heated up? I have installed Bumblebee
[13:24] <Guest54801> hold
[13:25] <Guest54801> abdul@abdul-HP-ProBook-6560b:~$ lsb_release -sc
[13:25] <Guest54801> quantal
[13:25] <Guest54801> that what it shows
[13:25] <Guest54801> hello uberamd u there
[13:25] <betrayd> Zync: even on a different usb slot, make sure win can see usb3.0, etc
[13:25] <lousygarua> How can I run `screen` without its splash screen appearing on startup (making me hit ENTER to start)
[13:25] <uberamd> Guest54801: Yes, though ActionParsnip seems to have an idea?
[13:26] <Guest54801> any idea what i can do
[13:27] <jrib> lousygarua: « man screen » /startup_message<enter>
[13:27] <uberamd> Guest54801: personally, when I have a problem like that I just remove the file from the source list using sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:27] <uberamd> Guest54801: find that source, remove the line
[13:27] <Zync> betrayd: is there any tool i can use to fix this on the other pc that recognizes it?
[13:27] <Guest54801> ok thanks uberamd
[13:27] <uberamd> Guest54801: or just put a # at the beginning of the line to comment it out
[13:28] <lousygarua> jrib, oh thanks! and I put it in some ~/.screenrc or something?
[13:28] <Zync> betrayd: the problem is my pc not the pen drive, but other pen drives work fine it's only this one thats acting up with my pc
[13:28] <jrib> lousygarua: exactly
[13:28] <lousygarua> jrib ok thanks
[13:28] <Guest54801> i have opened the list so what am i to remove
[13:28] <Guest54801> which line
[13:28] <jrib> lousygarua: also, be sure to check out tmux if you aren't aware of it (it's a nice alternative to screen)
[13:28] <uberamd> Guest54801: find the line that matches that error message you gave me
[13:28] <betrayd> Zync: i'd try a boot with the stick already plugged in
[13:28] <lousygarua> jrib, I will
[13:29] <betrayd> Zync: change your bootup sequence if you have to
[13:29] <uberamd> Guest54801: scopes-packagers
[13:29] <Guest54801> ok thanks
[13:30] <Guest54801> whats scopes-packagers
[13:30] <uberamd> Guest54801: it was part of the line in your error message
[13:30] <Screwba> heya gang...
[13:30] <PurpleHaze> hey
[13:31] <Screwba> I have a question about bootup scripts, can I ask here or is there another channel for said support?
[13:31] <Zync> betrayd: it is recognizing it as a USB DISK idk why, maybe that's relevant?
[13:31] <jrib> Screwba: start here
[13:31] <PurpleHaze> get you ass out of here Screwba
[13:31] <jrib> PurpleHaze: please be nice...
[13:31] <wendico> hello, on install, my i choose to install the /home on a NTFS partition?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> wendico: no it is not suitable.
[13:31] <jrib> wendico: you should not do that, no
[13:31] <betrayd> Zync: as another drive?
[13:31] <PussyDestroyer69> ok ok
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> wendico: you can have a small /home partition, then symlink folders (or even mount the NTFS) to a folder inside $HOME
[13:32] <Guest54801> uberamd:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/scopes-packagers/adult-scopes/ubuntu quantal 12.10 main
[13:32] <Guest54801> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/scopes-packagers/adult-scopes/ubuntu quantal 12.10 main
[13:32] <Screwba> jrib:  thanks...so I have a 'configuration' script which needs to run on bootup but since the LSBinit runs in parallel, the script does not complete and I get my Desktop prior to it finishing
[13:32] <PussyDestroyer69> theres an ass load of people in this chat room
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> wendico: but NTFS will cause a tonne of iisues if it is the /home partition
[13:32] <lix> imapsync has been removed from the package list due to the license. - is there an alternative?
[13:32] <Guest54801> they are two on the list
[13:32] <Screwba> but this script only runs once...
[13:32] <Guest54801> so should i delete the two
[13:32] <jrib> Screwba: what kind of configuration script?  You're creating an upstart script?
[13:32] <Zync> it says USB DISK, when i plug other usb drivers it never considers it as a disk
[13:32] <Screwba> first bootup...it is like a kickstart/jumpstart script
[13:32] <uberamd> Guest54801: comment them out, add a # at the beginning of the line
[13:32] <petrs> Hi everybody. Can someone please help me with disabling privacy extensions of IPv6?
[13:33] <PussyDestroyer69> whoa whoa one at a time please
[13:33] <Screwba> it renames the computer, configures some software and then joins a Microsoft AD Domain (I know...but hey)
[13:33] <betrayd> Zync: more than likely its ready, can you see if u can boot from it on your other hardware (lappy)
[13:33] <lix> !imapsync
[13:34] <Guest54801> ok av added # at the beginning of both lines...should i save now
[13:34] <jrib> Screwba: there's probably some better way to accomplish what you are doing (but I don't know it)
[13:34] <PussyDestroyer69> I have a question guys
[13:34] <uberamd> Guest54801: Save, then run the sudo apt-get update again
[13:34] <Screwba> jrib:  the script works perfectly for EL but they are not moved to LSBinit yet
[13:34] <wendico> ok, thank you for the advice
[13:34] <jrib> Screwba: EL?
[13:35] <Screwba> jjrib:  Enterprise Linux, CentOS/Red Hat
[13:35] <PussyDestroyer69> since yall know a bunch about computers, I have a question about them
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> PussyDestroyer69: as long as it is ubuntu related, sure
[13:35] <Screwba> jrib:   ^^^
[13:35] <PussyDestroyer69> I'm not sure if it is
[13:36] <Guest54801> @uberamd:Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal-security/multiverse Translation-en_NG
[13:36] <Guest54801> Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal-security/restricted Translation-en_NG
[13:36] <Guest54801> Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe Translation-en_NG
[13:36] <Guest54801> Reading package lists... Done
[13:36] <Guest54801> abdul@abdul-HP-ProBook-6560b:~$
[13:36] <FloodBot1> Guest54801: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <wendico> should i google for "symlink" in order to transparently move my music, pictures and documents to my ntfs partition?
[13:36] <Guest54801> @uberamd: it worked, thanks
[13:36] <Guest54801> let me try the update manager again
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> wendico: just mount the NTFS partition, you can access it easily using nautilus, symlink will make life a bit easier
[13:37] <SuperBawlz> You can always tell the people that never get laid, they go by names like "PussyDestroyer", "AssMaster", and "KingOfCunt"
[13:37] <PussyDestroyer69> I'm in this alternitive school where you can't get past the security and i need to know how to get past it like it's a school for people who do bad things and all you do is sit on a computer all day and i hate it and want to get past the security
[13:37] <SuperBawlz> grow up people.
[13:37] <Screwba> jrib:  I have been fighting with this for quite some time and I just can't figure it out.  Maybe if I disable dependency booting in LSBinit, it would work.  I am almost sure it would work because the parallelism booting of LSB is what I believe is causing the issue
[13:38] <subthalamus> this channel has really gone downhill
[13:38]  * Screwba agrees...
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> PussyDestroyer69: wrong channel dude
[13:38]  * Screwba is wondering 'where' he can go to get some help...
[13:38] <PussyDestroyer69> wtf holey shit
[13:39] <wendico> how can i "burn"my ubuntu iso into a bootable sd or usb form windows? i have no cd burner
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> wendico: use unetbootin
[13:39] <Screwba> hard to believe that out of 1742 people in this channel, no one can help...
[13:39] <wendico> ty, downloading
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> wendico: or th 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux
[13:39] <PussyDestroyer69> what channel do i need to go to
[13:39] <Screwba> wendico:  go to sourceforge and download the win32diskimager
[13:40] <Screwba> wendico:  download the ISO and use that utility to write it to an SD/USB/whatever device...
[13:40] <lix> !mailsync
[13:41] <ubuthetechguru> betrayd, BluesKaj, ok, i figured it out. it's here if you're interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629147/
[13:42] <PussyDestroyer69> no one knows what channel
[13:42] <PussyDestroyer69> ?
[13:42] <PussyDestroyer69> why don't yall talk about other things like chicks and pussy and good kush?
[13:43] <wendico> thank u i downloaded both unebooting and win32diskimager. now waiting for my iso to download.... i cant wait to have my ubuntu installed! :)
[13:43] <petrs> Hi everybody. Can someone please help me with disabling privacy extensions of IPv6?
[13:43] <Screwba> win32diskimage is the best utility for Windows
[13:44] <Screwba> and the Ubuntu guys actually wrote it...   =)
[13:44] <BluesKaj> ubuthetechguru, ok , glad you got it to work
[13:44] <PussyDestroyer69> pussy
[13:44] <PussyDestroyer69> pussy
[13:44] <PussyDestroyer69> pussy
[13:44] <FloodBot1> PussyDestroyer69: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> test
[13:47] <lix> iff paff
[13:47] <seriously_random> huh, what happened?
[13:47] <darthanubis> had to get rid of that troll
[13:47] <seriously_random> Can someone tell me how to use tracker-needle?
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, lets try this again. anyone can help me locate the source code for the xmatrix xscreensaver (if possible)?
[13:48] <lix> ping
[13:48] <lix> ping
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> lix: pingback
[13:49] <lix> ntzrmtthihu777: ack. - tks
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> lix: aerodump-ng --essid ubuntu --output-format pcap -w dump mon0
[13:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD
[13:50] <zomnbio_mobile> *itches
[13:50] <zomnbio_mobile> Oops... Damn mobile
[13:50] <xfceguy> When I type sudo apt-get update to my server i get a bunch of errors, can someone please help?
[13:50] <asanka> use blacktrack
[13:50] <lix> ntzrmtthihu777: :-P
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> xfceguy: what errors? do apt-get update | pastebinit and give us the link.
[13:51] <Guest17045> salut
[13:51] <nullby7e> how can i close IPP 631 port?
[13:52] <dogface> Ubuntu is da bomb
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> nullby7e: sudo ufw disallow 631/tcp
[13:52] <lix> nullby7e: iptables rule or shutting down cups
[13:53] <nullby7e> ntzrmtthihu777: intersting command, does that made it perm?
[13:53] <dogface> Port 631 for printing
[13:54] <xfceguy> when I try to install pastebinit it tells me how big the files to install are but when i push Y i get errors Failed to fetch <server name> for all the servers in my source.list
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> nullby7e: not sure if the syntax was 100%, but it will make ufw run at startup with that rule.
[13:54] <asanka> error massage
[13:54] <drama247365> security.ubuntu.com having issues? can't update
[13:54] <yao> exit
[13:54] <ezra-s> isn't 631 listening on loopback by default? that doesn't hurt if you need cups for yourself...
[13:55] <ezra-s> the wording is not precise but you get my meaning
[13:57] <asanka> try apt-get build-dep
[13:57] <dogface> Why close 631 port. Just gire
[13:57] <dogface> Why close 631 port. Just firewall it
[13:58] <avid_fan> drama247365: apt-get update produces 0 errors for me.
[13:58] <sudobash> I'm really liking ufw
[13:58] <drama247365> weird, working again
[13:58] <avid_fan> drama247365: Must be a glitch in the Matrix.
[13:58] <ezra-s> dogface, why firewall it if it just listens on loopback?
[13:58] <asanka> prolink 3.75G mobile broadband... auto disconnect
[13:59] <A1Recon> Hi
[13:59] <AlexTheRealOne> Hi
[14:00] <A1Recon> OK, I am going in. Wish me luck, folks! See you after I install Ubuntu!
[14:00] <ezra-s> good luck
[14:01] <AlexTheRealOne> Have Fun
[14:01] <lousygarua> jrib, tmux looks much friendlier, thanks for the recommendation
[14:05] <du7ed> i ran aptitude install phpmyadmin, and when i go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin it gives errors about the phpmyadmin database not existing. how do i "init" phpmyadmin to create its databases and stuff
[14:07] <lix> du7ed: did you install mysql-server?
[14:07] <nullby7e> ipp is not a cups
[14:08] <du7ed> lix: yes of course.
[14:08] <lix> du7ed: and its running?
[14:08] <du7ed> lix: indeed
[14:08] <ezra-s> nullby7e, yes it is
[14:08] <lix> du7ed: good. try http://127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin
[14:08] <nullby7e> ezra-s: maybe you are right, i am checking something
[14:08] <lix> du7ed: or dow you see the phpmyadmin login site on localhost/phpomyadmin?
[14:08] <du7ed> lix: that would be the page i was at that described the phpmyadmin database not existing
[14:09] <lix> du7ed: ok, so you see the phpmyadmin login page?
[14:09] <ezra-s> nullby7e, check it out yourself -> sudo lsof -i tcp:631
[14:09] <du7ed> lix: i am indeed logged into phpmyadmin!
[14:09] <ezra-s> or cat /etc/services | grep ipp
[14:09] <du7ed> lix: it doesn't check the phpmyadmin database until after you're logged in ;)
[14:10] <nullby7e> ezra-s: yes:) but then why when i remove cups from package everything is clean and shutt down and internet pripting protocol i s still loaded
[14:10] <lix> du7ed: ack. - but phpmyadmin doesnt really need a database itself. at least not to my knowledge
[14:10] <vitimiti> o/
[14:11] <somsip> lix: older versions do have one. Not sure about the repo version
[14:11] <ezra-s> nullby7e, then you do the lsof command I told you to see what's running that port
[14:11] <lix> somsip: possibly... tks
[14:11] <nullby7e> i want to stop cups ezra-s
[14:11] <du7ed> lix: all phpmyadmin have a phpmyadmin database that gets put on the sql server. i'm running the latest version.
[14:11] <du7ed> lix: normally it opens up a little screen where you put in your db details when you install phpmyadmin
[14:11] <lix> du7ed: I never installed phpmyadmin by aptitude. I just download the tarball from the website and configure the webserver accordingly myself...
[14:11] <du7ed> lix: it didn't do it this time.
[14:12] <ezra-s> nullby7e, you just said you have removed it and shut down
[14:12] <PussyDestroyer69> hello motha fuckas
[14:12] <lix> du7ed: mhmm. I see. hangon
[14:12] <nullby7e> ezra-s: yes but after then 631/tcp open  ipp is still found
[14:12] <nullby7e> ?!
[14:14] <lix> du7ed: maybe check here: http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Configuration_storage
[14:14] <du7ed> lix:  i dont think so.
[14:14] <ezra-s> nullby7e,  alright, type this in terminal: sudo lsof -i tcp:631 | awk '{print $2}' | grep -vi pid | xargs sudo kill -9
[14:14] <du7ed> the problem is with aptitude.
[14:14] <du7ed> if i run aptitude on a brand new system i will get a screen asking for my db details and it will auto create the phpmyadmin database
[14:15] <du7ed> if i aptitude remove phpmyadmin and then aptitude install phpmyadmin on this system, it will not give me the screen i need to auto install the phpmyadmin database
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !aptitude
[14:15] <du7ed> why is that?
[14:15] <du7ed> it's not an issue with phpmyadmin
[14:15] <nullby7e> ezra-s: but after reboot it will still loaded?
[14:15] <du7ed> MonkeyDust: thanks. is it ok to just try using apt-get ?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> du7ed  try apt-get instead
[14:15] <du7ed> MonkeyDust: what would teh proper procedure be for completely removing something with aptitude and then installing with apt
[14:15] <ezra-s> nullby7e, if you still have cups installed probably
[14:16] <ezra-s> nullby7e, but you can disable it from loading at boot
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> du7ed  use apt-get purge and then apt-get autoremove, to remove
[14:17] <natural> hi, i am having trouble setting up my scanner, it is a workforce 635, epson.  any help?  i have not set up the printer yet, since i was not sure if i needed to set up the scanner first.  the installation disk i have is only for windows. windows 7   of course i am using ubuntu 13.04
[14:18] <darthanubis> natural, printer first
[14:18] <natural> ok darthanubis i will contact after it is finished, thank you
[14:18] <darthanubis> natural, off to work..yw
[14:19] <A1Recon> Is it better to create another swap partition
[14:19] <A1Recon> ??
[14:19] <darthanubis> A1Recon, no
[14:19] <A1Recon> As in a dedicated swap partition
[14:19] <A1Recon> ??
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  start from the beginning, what do you want to achieve?
[14:19] <du7ed> thanks MonkeyDust
[14:19] <du7ed> worked
[14:19] <natural> ok darthanubis i see you sare out of time, thank you, printer is set up
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> du7ed  yw
[14:19] <nullby7e> ezra-s: thansk
[14:20] <darthanubis> natural, sorry
[14:20] <natural> oh, hold up, i got it, i will just scan the documents to usb drive than put them in the cpomputer like that, but it is better if i can just scan them from compuiter... anyone have any ideas?  setting up my scanner with simplescan, or somehting else?
[14:20] <A1Recon> MonkeyDust I want to dual boot. And I am following this article on it http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony but somewhere in there it says "Experienced Linux geeks might be wondering where the swap space is going—but don't worry, we'll create one, just not in its own partition.". So I am confused a bit??
[14:20] <natural> its ok darthanubis no worries, in last resort, i will use the hard coppies
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  you don't really need swap, unless you plan to hibernate/suspend the computer alot
[14:22] <natural> a1, i think it will install ubuntu in one partition then use the spoace in that single partition to make an 'inside' partition for swap space...
[14:22] <natural> A1Recon, look above
[14:22] <ezra-s> A1Recon, swap under Linux usually has a partition just for it, but nowadays unless you have low physical mem you don't really need swap, or too big of a swap partition
[14:22] <A1Recon> Thanks!!
[14:23] <ezra-s> A1Recon, in the article it seems to imply swap won't go in a partition for itself but in a file, which is less recommended, but equally valid
[14:23] <natural> so you wont have that pesky x-sized gb partition floating around in your hd/ssd, now it should be only 2 partitions, and maybe 3 if windows is still lost in the past on how to properly manage a hdd/ssd
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: unless you want to hybernate.
[14:23] <A1Recon> K
[14:23] <natural> yeah, i dont recomend hibernate on ssd at all, but windows said it figured it out, i dont know about that
[14:24] <natural> so anyone know how to set up this scanner on ubuntu 13.04?
[14:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: yeah, I never hybe, but if you do you need at least as much swap as ram
[14:24] <natural> dude A1Recon that article is from 2009, comon man, thats old, get the one for 13.04 or at least 12.04/10
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> natural  dirty workouround, I use for my old CanScan: launch simple scan, start scanning - does nothing... close the window, re-plug the usb scanner => ok, ready to scan
[14:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> natural: problem is alotta ubuntu tuts are old as hell, and not modern at all.
[14:26] <darthanubis> lol
[14:26] <darthanubis> oh sorry
[14:27] <darthanubis> I thought you weant us old ubuntu heads
[14:27] <anew> is a quad core opteron 2.3ghz better than an intel xeon 2.3ghz ?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> ntzrmtthihu777, agreed they should be filtered out
[14:27] <darthanubis> anew, depends. but no
[14:27] <BluesKaj> anew, o ask in #hardware
[14:27] <anew> yeah no one answered there
[14:28] <Dr_Fets> better in what way?
[14:28] <riddrib> how can download youtube video in firefox ubuntu?
[14:28] <anew> weird because the vps with the opteron has less cpu max outs than the xeon
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> riddrib  youtube-dl, in a terminal
[14:28] <BluesKaj> then google for benchmark reviews this is ubuntu support not cpu , anew
[14:28] <th0r> riddrib: or install VideoDownloadHelper, it is a ff plugin
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> rrittenhouse: youtube-dl is da junk, listen
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: use addons for that, they can be easily installed
[14:29] <riddrib> you said the download
[14:29] <BluesKaj> riddrib, install youtube-dl
[14:29] <riddrib> ok
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: are you intending to rip the audio from the video?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: http://www.youtube-mp3.org if so
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> !info soundconverter
[14:30] <BluPhenix316> is there some software for ubuntu, that can control a printer/fax machine? i have ubuntu 13.04 installed on my mother's computer and she wants the computer to handle faxs
[14:31] <g105b> Is there a desktop twitter client that can schedule tweets?
[14:31] <natural> thanks MonkeyDust i want to do it wirelessly
[14:31] <natural> i'll just scan the images to usb drive then take it to computer, thanks though
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> BluPhenix316  hylafax, gfax
[14:32] <riddrib> thankyou everyone
[14:32] <BluPhenix316> MonkeyDust: the computer itself doesn't have a fax modem, it is the printer that does
[14:33] <BluesKaj> BluPhenix316, what model printer/fax ?
[14:33] <BluPhenix316> HP OfficeJet 4500
[14:34] <BluPhenix316> scanning and printing is fine, i am just trying to see if ubuntu can control the fax portion
[14:36] <riddrib> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[14:37] <riddrib> Reading database
[14:38] <LinuxNewbish> good all , im having a problem when i install Ubuntu 12.10  beside my win8 as dual boot. the starting windows doesnt show so i could pick which OS i would like to run, can anyone help me with this matter
[14:39] <riddrib> Downlad complete
[14:39] <moultonl> I've got two xubuntu boxes.  Geany is fired up on one, and there's someone else standing at that box.  How can I get that instance of Geany over onto my current box's display?
[14:41] <betrayd> !vnc
[14:41] <moultonl> betrayd, is that for me?
[14:41] <betrayd> that's one way moultonl
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> LinuxNewbish: if you run:  sudo update-grub    do you see the boot?
[14:42] <th0r> moultonl: if you just want one window, you might also look at X-forwarding via ssh
[14:42] <Inoki> Hi guys, anybody who owns an ASUS n71 laptop? We can't get past a black screen.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> th0r: the same instance....not sure if you can duplicate app windows like that
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: is it on an installed OS, or during install
[14:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Inoki: boot it, at the grub screen edit the boot, and set it to nomodeset nosplash, get more info.
[14:43] <ebernhardson> in unity, when i alt-tab through open windows it groups together similar windows.  how do i turn that off?
[14:43] <th0r> ActionParsnip: agreed. wasn't sure what exactly he wanted.
[14:44] <Inoki> Thing is, we tried a liveUSB with 13.04 x64, but all my friend receives is a black screen with "Boot error".
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ebernhardson: have a look in ccsm
[14:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> ebernhardson: get rid of unity :P
[14:44] <LinuxNewbish> it shows me this message ActionParsnip  " /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow "
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> LinuxNewbish: ok, use the web to see what that means
[14:44] <Inoki> ActionParsnip: nope, it was downloaded directly from Ubuntu website using Chrome on Windows 7.
[14:44] <moultonl> betrayd, but the person who grabbed that box still needs to do whatever it is they're trying to do, so a vnc-ish option is't going to work.  I could do ssh -Y me@otherbox geany, but that's going to fire up a new instance, and I need the one that's currently running
[14:45] <ebernhardson> ActionParsnip: downloading that now, will look into it.  Thanks
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: doesn't matter where it is from, it still needs checking
[14:45] <riddrib> I can't find youtube-dl in firefox?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: its a console command
[14:45] <betrayd> moultonl: ok the vnc though with x11vnc will let YOU make changes, but it seems you need him to do it
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: web browse to the page with the file, copy the adress bar then use that http address as an option to youtube-dl
[14:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> riddrib: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[14:47] <th0r> riddrib: VideoDownload Helper for firefox will let you download directly from firefox
[14:47] <riddrib> I do install and complete download
[14:48] <moultonl> forget it -- he's gone away now.
[14:48] <LinuxNewbish> thanks ActionParsnip i will try it and see what will happen thanks again
[14:49] <riddrib> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5KrxGrYxDvg
[14:49] <riddrib> ERROR: unable to download video webpage: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[14:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> riddrib: it'll happen, if your connection is crap. I've been using youtube-dl for forever and a day now, and its the best thing you can use, I guarantee it.
[14:53] <riddrib> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5KrxGrYxDvg
[14:54] <riddrib> WARNING: unable to set language: <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known>
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: use an addon for FIrefox, lots easier
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: or an extension in Chrom/ium
[14:55] <riddrib> what is the name to addons
[14:55] <riddrib> ?
[14:55] <Screwba> so nobody here knows anything about LSBinit scripting ???
[14:55] <Screwba> can someone refer me to a channel which does ???
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=firefox%20addon%20youtube%20download&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[14:56] <betrayd> try centos/rh Screwba
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: try searching sometimes, instead of asking
[14:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> riddrib: screw the addon, trustme ytdl is the way to go.
[14:56] <Screwba> betrayd:  why there?
[14:56] <th0r> riddrib: I will have that video in less than a minute...videodownload helper (last time)
[14:56] <betrayd> why not
[14:56]  * BluesKaj shrugs , never had any problem with youtube-dl , just have to check the url and copy and paste it , actully even wget will work if you can isolate the right url
[14:56] <Screwba> CentOS/RH do not even use LSBinit
[14:56] <Screwba> they still use sysv init
[14:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> riddrib: you can use your ytube acount to create a playlist of the vids you want, then use youtube-dl on the playlist url and it will get them all.
[14:57] <genii-around> Screwba: Most of Ubuntu is now using Upstart
[14:57] <betrayd> Screwba: not in their latest RH maybe
[14:57] <betrayd> or fedora
[14:57] <betrayd> read it on Distrowatch
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: did the link give you something useful?
[14:58] <Screwba> 6.4 is still sysv...I have CentOS and Red Hat running here
[14:59] <riddrib> yes
[14:59] <Screwba> Upstart is pretty much the same as LSBinit though...it is a parallel boot sequence
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> riddrib: why couldn't you do the same search?
[14:59] <Screwba> what I am trying to do is pause it long enough to run my config script on first boot
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: so, how is this Ubuntu related?
[15:00] <Inoki> ActionParsnip: we checked, file seems to be ok.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: good, please MD5 test befoe using the ISOs you download, in future
[15:01] <Inoki> ActionParsnip: any ideas what could cause the "Boot error" except that?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: is the right device set to boot in BIOS?
[15:02] <Screwba> ActionParsnip:  totally related...I want to now configure Ubuntu to properly run a similar script
[15:02] <Inoki> ActionParsnip: yep, checked all that.
[15:02] <Screwba> ActionParsnip:  once I get Ubuntu working, then I will move to Debian, then Mint
[15:02] <raijin> lol
[15:02] <raijin> that should go debian->ubuntu->mint
[15:02] <raijin> iirc
[15:03]  * raijin shrugs
[15:03] <Screwba> raijin:  I agree but the Debian folks have been as helpful as here, the Ubuntu folks
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: you could have a check in your script to make sure certain processes are started
[15:03] <Screwba> it seems like nobody know how the boot sequence 'really' works
[15:04] <Screwba> I have tried adding my script (it is not a daemon) to rc.local, I have tried adding it as a boot up script...nothing works
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: i understand the mechanics, just not had to mess with it. If I am adding boot scripts etc I use /etc/rc.local as everything will be started by the time that script is executed
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: add it above the exit 0 line, you may need to specify absolute paths to binaries
[15:05] <Screwba> tried it...it begins to run but my script takes about 2 mins to complete on some systems and I can see it still running when the desktop is presented
[15:06] <aDeOleo> hi everyone!!!
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: then add an ampersand to the command, it wil background and the GUI can load
[15:06] <aDeOleo> any one know why when I try to stop my isc-dhcp-server 3 it displays: stop: Unknown instance: ??????????????????????????????????????????????
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> aDeOleo: use the service command, you can see the service names there
[15:08] <Screwba> ActionParsnip:  not following...add an & to what?
[15:09] <Screwba> the rc.local where my script is called?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: the command, so that it backgrounds
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: so if the command is: /usr/bin/command     change it to:  /usr/bin/command &
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: then the process will background and the boot can continue
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: do you not use background processes?
[15:12] <Peanut> Hi folks - until last week, I would get a /dev/ttyUSB{0,1} device when I would connect my Palm on USB. The device still shows up in dmesg when I connect, but I no longer get the ttyUSB devices. Does anyone know what could have changed?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Peanut: when you unplug the device, do you safely remove the device before unplugging?
[15:12] <Mikeasaurus> is there a way to update my soundcard driver?  I just installed ubunutu and my speakers sound horrible
[15:13] <sudobash> Mikeasaurus sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:13] <sudobash> should update everything on the system, if there is an update for pulseaudio it will grab it
[15:13] <Mikeasaurus> I did that
[15:13] <Peanut> ActionParsnip: It's not a storage device but a USB serial port as far as I know, so no 'safely remove' option that I saw.
[15:14] <sudobash> find your sound card in the command: lspci and paste the HWID
[15:14] <Screwba> I understand background process but I would really like my script to 'pause' the boot process until it completes
[15:14] <Screwba> actionparsnip ^^^
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: then you will need a check to see if the process has stopped and hold the boot until
[15:14] <_kshenoy> I'm trying to compile vim from source and it says "Python config dir not found" and indeed there's no config dir in /usr/lib/python2.7
[15:15] <Screwba> ActionParsnip: exactly...how would I 'hold the boot'?
[15:15] <skorasaurus> hi, i have a 12.04 ubuntu image that i made on a usb and I can boot to it.
[15:15] <donvito2> hello fellas, i have intel pentium 3.0 processor, 1gb ram memory, 128 mb nvidia geforce 6200 turbocache and my 12.04 unity is still laggy, i dont know why? can anyone tell me why maybe?
[15:15] <_kshenoy> I checked for the usual culprits: python-dev is installed and `python -c 'print "hello"'` works as expected. `python -V` gives 2.7.4. Can someone please help me resolve this?
[15:15] <skorasaurus> but the text that appears on the screen is garbled when I boot.
[15:16] <Screwba> ActionParsnip: since Upstart and LSBinit is a parallel boot process, everything just flows and starts...I have not found a way for my script to 'pause/hold' the boot process
[15:16] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/2xpYTkqn
[15:16] <Screwba> ActionParsnip: I must say though, you have been the most helpful so far on this topic
[15:16] <Mikeasaurus> Is it ATI IXP SB400?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Screwba: after running the command in rc.local, have a while loop to hold the boot unti the process doesn't exist
[15:17] <metaldemon> help D:
[15:17] <metaldemon> my lappy wont load ubuntu properly
[15:17] <sudobash> 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) and 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 10)
[15:18] <Heavenstorm> donvito2:  I can feel your pain man. I have an nvidia MX400 and could not make the nvidia drivers work without it defaulting to VESA which has no 3d acceleration
[15:18] <Screwba> ActionParsnip: I will try that...thanks
[15:18] <sudobash> whta version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:18] <metaldemon> I use version 12.04
[15:18] <Mikeasaurus> 13.04
[15:19] <elkng> Heavenstorm: "I can feel your pain", feel that one: RIVA TNT 16MB
[15:19] <elkng> using right now
[15:20] <metaldemon> I am new to ubunu. and I cannot seem to install it properly on this laptop
[15:20] <elkng> all I can afford is KDE: 3.5.4, no unity
[15:20] <metaldemon> it is an old ASUS A2500L
[15:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> elkng: heh, go for xfce, you'll love it :P
[15:20] <elkng> "ubunu", you can spell it correctly also
[15:21] <elkng> s/can/can't
[15:21] <elkng> ntzrmtthihu777: don't like rats
[15:21] <fincan> hi, I have problem with friends-app on 13.04, I cant connect twitter
[15:21] <anant> join #c
[15:21] <sudobash> Mikeasaurus so the audio is not working or just sounds crappy?
[15:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> elkng: get rid of em, lol. not a rat to be seen on my box
[15:22] <Mikeasaurus> Just sounds crappy, very distorted
[15:22] <Heavenstorm> elkng:  I have an ancient tower so I didn't expect much from it to start with. I'm trying to se it a server for my home network as a content filtering system so at the time I don't have a GUI
[15:22] <BluesKaj>  Heavenstorm, MX400 is a very old card , recommend you try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629147/
[15:22] <Youssefk> Hello, does anyone of you guys know if the reboot problem in juju has been fixed or not?
[15:22] <Mikeasaurus> Maybe one of the speakers is blown?  It's a laptop
[15:23] <metaldemon> Can anybody help me? it displays a couple of messages on boot for a couple of seconds. then it restarts
[15:23] <metaldemon> it wont go past: "stopping system v run level compatibility"
[15:23] <Youssefk> Hello, does anyone of you guys know if the reboot problem in juju has been fixed or not?
[15:24] <Heavenstorm> BluesKaj: Thanks for the info. I will save it if I go back to using the GUI.
[15:24] <sudobash> Mikeasaurus check the sound tool, it will allow you to push the volume past 100% which will decrease quality through speakers, and has blown my laptop speakers before
[15:24] <Youssefk> Hello, does anyone of you guys know if the reboot problem in juju has been fixed or not?
[15:24] <Pici> Youssefk: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:24] <fincan> is there any way to use friends-app with twitter?
[15:24] <Youssefk> @Pici okay :)
[15:25] <lessshaste> how do you type e-diaresis (that is e with two dots) in a terminal in linux?
[15:25] <johnjohn101> e..
[15:26] <lessshaste> johnjohn101, :)
[15:26] <hexacode> anyone know how to pipe data to the standard input of a certain process number?
[15:26] <lessshaste> alt-235 doesn't seem to do anything
[15:26] <Mikeasaurus> Output volume is unamplfied 100%.  Both speakres work
[15:27] <andril> hello all
[15:28] <metaldemon> Can anyone explain to me what I have to do to get this old laptop working?
[15:28] <lessshaste> none of these work http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_type_an_e_with_diaeresis_on_a_standard_102-Key_US_keyboard
[15:28] <lessshaste> any ideas?
[15:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: try an xubuntu iso
[15:29] <johnjohn101> lessshaste: can you find it somewhere and copy/paste?
[15:29] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, the problem is that this laptop refuses to boot from a removable
[15:29] <lessshaste> johnjohn101, maybe :)
[15:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: as in a usb device?
[15:29] <sudobash> Mikeasaurus did you reboot after your upgrade, and did you see if pulseaudio was updated? also what are you listening to? Pandora? MP3?
[15:29] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, I run the windows installer, but after running it it does not boot into ubuntu properly, and yes. USB, CD and DVD dont work
[15:30] <johnjohn101> lessshaste: those instruction worked for me  ë
[15:30] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, removables only work in windows xp that is already installed on it
[15:30] <lessshaste> johnjohn101, what exactly did you do?
[15:30] <Mikeasaurus> VLC movie.  x264 AAC2.0
[15:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: windows xp has nothign to do with the boot. if you have a properly setup bootable cd and the right bios flags set it should work. its damn rare to have a lappy not boot from cds.
[15:31] <johnjohn101> I held the control shift down while typing all of the characters.  those are zeros btw
[15:31] <fincan> is friend-app bugy with twitter in 13.04?
[15:31] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, ubuntu seems to have installed just fine, but when I start up I do not get the GRUB2 bootloader
[15:31] <Mikeasaurus> pulseaudio was already upgraded
[15:31] <Mikeasaurus> It's ok.  I will use headphones
[15:31] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, but this laptop is rare, 2003 ASUS A2500L
[15:31] <Peanut> Ah, found a workaround for my Palm Pilot problem: just use "-p usb:" and it will find whatever port it is on.
[15:32] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, it is more weird than really rare though. they are commonly found in dumpsters I think
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: so you installed ubuntu how?
[15:33] <Heavenstorm> This is my question: I am using wpa_supplicant to connect to my wi-fi. After it boots I have to enter "dhclient wlan0" to get it to connect. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[15:33] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, I installed it via the Windows installer. from usb in windows. after that it asks to restart the machine. and then all the errors occur
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: in other words, you used wubi
[15:34] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, Yes, sorry. I am new to ubuntu
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: that's your first mistake. wubi is trash.
[15:34] <contrapunctus> Say, folks...anyone know about ClamAV? I just did a full system scan and got an 8.9 MB large log, which says 3 files are infected...but how do I know which ones? =\
[15:35] <lucido> I'm using a geforce7200 videocard connected to an lcd display via a vga cable and the screen keeps flashing between normal display and blank screen in 5second intervals
[15:35] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, how else should I install it then, this bios does not have a lot of features and bios updates are no where to be seen. the CD drives lazer is probably not functioning. however the usb ports do work
[15:36] <Guest95268> hi ubuntustudio alsa related issue using 13.04
[15:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: pm me. I can't tell you how many shit laptops i've restored, I'll help ya out.
[15:36] <riddrib> all right
[15:37] <donvito2> media player like winamp or aimp for ubuntu?
[15:37] <esx> donvito2: audacious
[15:37] <donvito2> THANKS
[15:37] <BluesKaj> lucido, drop to a tty, ctrl+alt+f1 ,login then do,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and reboot, if that's possible
[15:37] <contrapunctus> donvito2, what's wrong with VLC? ;)
[15:38] <lucido> BluesKaj, I already selected the propriatary nvidia drivers in software sources and it says its active now
[15:38] <contrapunctus> Say, folks...anyone know about ClamAV? I just did a full system scan and got an 8.9 MB large log, which says 3 files are infected...but how do I know which ones? =\
[15:38] <riddrib> where you working I working in Coca cola system office
[15:39] <lucido> BluesKaj, the screen isnt flashing in the bios or during boot
[15:40] <BluesKaj> lucido, no matter , use the nvidia-current driver , the one you selected obviously doesn't work
[15:42] <deadweasel> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[15:43] <deadweasel> i'm having serious screen issues..I removed a video card (1 of 2) and one of my screens seems to be pointed at the old device...
[15:43] <adamk> deadweasel: Pastebin the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (if you have one).
[15:44] <deadweasel> good method to pastebin from command line?
[15:44] <riddrib> where the video with youtube-dl is saving?
[15:45] <adamk> deadweasel: pastebinit
[15:46] <ndhakara> hello, I wanna learn how I can connect twitter with friend-apps, or ist bugged?
[15:48] <deadweasel> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629506/
[15:48] <deadweasel> next one coming
[15:48] <antitau> heyhey, anybody have experience installing the newest nvidia driver?
[15:49] <SnowmanX11> Can somebody propose me a good audio grabber tool?
[15:49] <antitau> i'm on 12.10
[15:50] <antitau> i seem to have broken everything, stuck in 640x480 mode. the installation went fine, i ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted but when i access the settings it's still saying the driver isn't being used
[15:50] <deadweasel> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629511/
[15:51] <deadweasel> i recently reinstalled drivers for my 7970, thinking it would help
[15:51] <adamk> antitau: Check the Xorg log file to see why the nvidia driver isn't being used.
[15:52] <adamk> deadweasel: Can you also pastebin the output of 'dmesg' ?
[15:54] <M4d3L-Rabbit> hi to get memory usage for php I use this command total=0; for i in `ps -C php -o rss=`; do total=$(($total+$i)); done; echo "Memory usage: $total kb"; how can I change that to use the process id specifiquely
[15:55] <doomlord_> anyone here got displaylink working under ubuntu ? i just tried following some instructions , i managed to get my desktop visible on the displaylink monitor, but it disabled my main graphics card;
[15:56] <doomlord_> in particular the instructions go on about "xinerama", but the existing config talks about "twinview", (this was setup by the nvidia tool)
[15:56] <doomlord_> are xinerama & twinview mutually exclusive ?
[15:59] <ndhakara> I need help to connect twitter with friend-apps
[16:01] <uberamd> ndhakara: add the twitter account in the System Settings
[16:01] <ndhakara> uberamd: yea but it doesnt connect
[16:01] <ndhakara> uberamd: when I click to add twitter blank white screen coming for a while and then crashes
[16:02] <uberamd> ndhakara: sound's like it's failing to load the twitter oauth page
[16:02] <ndhakara> uberamd: can u connect it?
[16:02] <uberamd> ndhakara: i just did about an hour ago, successfully
[16:03] <uberamd> ndhakara: i'll try again
[16:03] <uberamd> ndhakara: yes it works perfectly for me
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L-Rabbit: change `ps -C php -o rss=`         to     `ps -ef | grep PID | grep -v grep`       or similar
[16:03] <ndhakara> uberamd: did u ypgrade ur system or fresh install?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L-Rabbit: you'll be messing with stuff like grep and grep -v
[16:06] <Pici> M4d3L-Rabbit, ActionParsnip: pgrep might make this a lot easier
[16:08] <deadweasel> adamk: best way to pastebinit dmseg?
[16:08] <usr13> !paste | deadweasel
[16:08] <mchlbhm> Hey! I have another Q. Can I use something other than unity in ubuntu 12.04 amd64?
[16:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: ps -p <pid>
[16:08] <deadweasel> thx usr13
[16:09] <usr13> mchlbhm: Sure.  xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop  etc.
[16:09] <deadweasel> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629562/
[16:10] <mchlbhm> Usr13: Thank you
[16:10] <donvito2> is it posible to run weather application just like on smartphones on ubuntu desktop?
[16:11] <n-iCe> the 13.04 iso is not formatting my hard drive and not doing anuinstallation effects any idea?
[16:11] <usr13> n-iCe: "anuinstallation effects"?  Are you doing an install?
[16:11] <mchlbhm> donvito: It is, but I only saw from the software center and the reviews werent very good.
[16:12] <n-iCe> yes, after it says reboot to make effects and boot in the system it does not do it afyer reboot myblap says no os detected
[16:12] <mchlbhm> Which reminds me... Google is calling me
[16:13] <adamk> deadweasel: That's not the output from 'dmesg', that's your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[16:13] <mchlbhm> Thanks again :D
[16:14] <usr13> n-iCe: So how did the install process go?  Did you install the grub boot loader to the MBR of your primary hard drive?
[16:14] <usr13> !grub | n-iCe
[16:14] <n-iCe> well Ubuntu does it by itself i think i just selected use all the disk and erase my old os
[16:15] <usr13> n-iCe: Yes, it does, or should have, unless you skipped part of the process.
[16:15] <n-iCe> I did not I even tried with two isos and did not work
[16:16] <nedbat> I'm trying to use limits.d to restrict resource usage, and it doesn't seem to kick in.  If I run a process with "sudo -u sandbox programname", should the limits on the sandbox user be in effect?
[16:16] <usr13> n-iCe: It sounds a lot like grub did not get installed.
[16:16] <usr13> n-iCe: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:17] <betrayd> usr13: wasn't there a grub that would not show if there is only 1 OS on the system
[16:17] <n-iCe> im installing other os and doing a hard format drive i think ubuntu does not do ot well sinxe it takes like 2 minutes doing it and win does it in like 30minites seems a deep format
[16:18] <n-iCe> we will see
[16:18] <llutz> betrayd: that's default behaviour at least with 12.10
[16:19] <usr13> betrayd: n-iCe Said that his system reports "no os detected".
[16:19] <betrayd> gotcha thx llutz, usr13
[16:19] <usr13> betrayd: ... which indicates that grub is not installed.  Right?
[16:20] <betrayd>  yeppers
[16:21] <n-iCe> lets hope win fix the things
[16:22] <n-iCe> i tried to install ubuntu netinstall and cancelled it
[16:22] <n-iCe> npt sure if it has something to do
[16:22] <threex5> when i 'connect to server' using nautilus, it will close my connection after a while. How do ensure that my connection stays open?
[16:22] <Cantide> how do i install ubuntu 13.04 on a flash drive from an iso image on my hdd ?
[16:22] <n-iCe> but i deleted it and did a clean whole system installation and did not boot
[16:23] <usr13> Cantide: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[16:23] <usr13> n-iCe: Boot the live CD and take a look.  See what is there.
[16:24] <Cantide> usr13, thanks :)
[16:24] <n-iCe> i did checked gparted and looks like all was installed correctly
[16:24] <usr13> n-iCe: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Send URL. We will look too.
[16:24] <c_s> Unable to send files to android phone via bluetooth.
[16:24] <n-iCe> if windows does not boot either or detected i will pressume my hard drive or laptop system is fuucked up
[16:24] <deadweasel> adamk: my bad, try this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629597/
[16:25] <betrayd> c_s did they pair succesfully?
[16:25] <n-iCe> usr13 right now, I cant
[16:25] <c_s> betrayd : ya
[16:25] <betrayd> c_s try the other way around, send from the other device
[16:26] <c_s> betrayd : no way.
[16:26] <betrayd> your call
[16:26] <anew> what is the purpose of the hosts file ?
[16:27] <c_s> betrayd : after pairing I don't have the option for browsing files. only send files.
[16:27] <betrayd> c_s: maybe a time limit?
[16:28] <betrayd> c_s: might be too quick, then drops
[16:28] <c_s> betrayd : when I click to send file it starts with progress bar and then stops displaying an error.
[16:29] <betrayd> c_s: did the progress bar show some data was passed?
[16:29] <betrayd> or just 0
[16:29] <deadweasel> adamk: it hangs on Checking Battery State when starting lightdm
[16:29] <c_s> betrayd : it just starts. but no percentage is shown.
[16:29] <deadweasel> i've tried removing .Xauthority, removing and reinstalling xorg, reboot, etc.
[16:30] <netlar> what can you do if a peripheral does not appear to be supported by linux?
[16:30] <deadweasel> write your own driver
[16:30] <netlar> deadweasel: not sure I am able to do that
[16:31] <betrayd> replace with a supported one?
[16:31] <deadweasel> me either. what peripheral?
[16:31] <netlar> deadweasel: a bluetooth dongle
[16:31] <nedbat> ulimit is a bash built-in that sets limits on the current shell.  If I want to run a program with limits on just that program, and I don't use a shell, what are my options?
[16:32] <netlar> already looked on the list for linux and the manufacturer is not on the list
[16:32] <adamk_> deadweasel, Ultimately, the problem appears to be this: (EE) fglrx(0): The graphics processor is already set to console mode, set X mode fail. Cannot start X.
[16:32] <adamk_> deadweasel, I've never seen that error before, though, and nothing appears out of the ordinary in your config file or dmesg.
[16:33] <msh210> Hey, all. I've read man shutdown and man reboot and I see a way to shut down after n seconds, but I'm looking for a way to reboot after n seconds. Is there a way?
[16:33] <nedbat> msh210: shutdown -r     ?
[16:33] <betrayd> netlar: also tried other liveCDs?
[16:34] <msh210> nedbat d'oh I missed that flag in the man page
[16:34] <msh210> thanks!
[16:34] <deadweasel> adamk_: thanks for taking a look.  i probably borked something somewhere..
[16:35] <netlar> betrayd: what do you mean?
[16:35] <betrayd> try a different distro netlar
[16:36] <netlar> betrayd: I want to use Ubuntu
[16:36] <netlar> Everything else is fine
[16:37] <servvs> is there any way to remove python 2.7.4 and reinstall 2.7.3? It has totally screwed my programming releases
[16:37] <jrib> servvs: how has it totally screwed your programming releases?
[16:37] <mbruton> Anyone know if there is an issue with the initial Apache2 configuration and MaaS?  The apache2 error logs state file not found for /var/www/maas.
[16:38] <servvs> I usually package my programs with Pyinstaller or bbfreeze for releases and I am just getting all kinds of errors with python 2.7.4
[16:38] <nic013> anyone here using goldendict???
[16:39] <jrib> servvs: you should try to troubleshoot the errors imo
[16:39] <messa4> hello
[16:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone care to assist me in compiling xscreensaver from source?
[16:39] <netlar> hello messa4
[16:40] <nic013> anyone here using goldendict???
[16:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience !details | nic013
[16:41] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: why are you compiling xscreensaver from source?
[16:41] <messa4> Does Itunes works on ubuntu? its such a great program
[16:41] <deadweasel> adamk_: any other ideas for fixing?
[16:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | nic013
[16:41] <deadweasel> or logs you could use?
[16:41] <jrib> messa4: doubtful (maybe with wine), but there are plenty of good native music programs
[16:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: for vanity, lol. I've changed the text of the xmatrix source code to reference my handle instead of neo :P
[16:42] <designbybeck_> So 13.04 doesn't support ATI RadeonHD 2000-4000 video cards? And I'm guessing that includes the Mobility series as well? I have a Dell 17 Studio Laptop I'm trying to get working
[16:42] <jrib> !source | ntzrmtthihu777
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: playonlinux has a script to do it.
[16:42] <messa4> ntzrmtthihu777: u just click it?
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: I got the source, that's no problem. It's configure & make gives me issue.
[16:42] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: read the page please
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: its like a wizard, though.
[16:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: no need, sir.
[16:43] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: ok, so you've rebuilt it?
[16:44] <adamk_> designbybeck, The open source driver should work on those GPUs by default.
[16:44] <messa4> can u use ubuntu for programming?
[16:44] <jrib> messa4: sure
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: because, 1. the xmatrix screensaver is in xscreensaver-data-extras, and apt-get source will not fetch that, and 2. I've already got the source from github. and no, I have not.
[16:44] <messa4> in Visual basic and delphi
[16:44] <adamk_> deadweasel, Not really, sorry. Googling for that exact phrase turned up only two results, and neither were helpful.
[16:44] <messa4> just kidding
[16:44] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: why will apt-get source not fetch *that*?
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: yeah, hell yeah. linux period is hella good for programming in any language except .net
[16:45] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: i.e. what happened when you tried?
[16:45] <DarsVaeda> how do I trigger an upgrade to 13.04 from 12.04? I got a message that 13.04 is available but postponed it but now I want to upgrade but do not get any possibility
[16:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: because doing apt-get source xscreensaver-data-extra snatches xscreensaver instead.
[16:45] <DarsVaeda> I tried "sudo update-manager -d" with no success
[16:45] <jrib> DarsVaeda: you can't you need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[16:45] <jrib> !upgrade | DarsVaeda
[16:46] <DarsVaeda> ah sorry I meant 12.10
[16:46] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: that's the correct source package.
[16:46] <designbybeck_> So we can't use Ubuntu 13.04 with ATI cards?
[16:46] <designbybeck_> at least the Radeon HD 4650 series?
[16:46] <adamk_> designbybeck, Why do you keep saying that?
[16:46]  * r00t-err0r AFK
[16:47] <designbybeck_> oh sorry adamk_, my settings weren't showing I had a reply sorry
[16:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> well that's dumb, lol. give me a sec and I'll give the apt-get source a shot.
[16:47] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: if you follow the instructions in the link ubottu gave you, you'll see several packages will be built from the xscreensaver source package
[16:47] <designbybeck_> adamk_: i don't see my HDMI video/audio out options without it though
[16:47] <adamk_> designbybeck, Well HDMI video should definitely work with the open source drivers.  Not sure about HDMI audio, though I thought it was supported.  The folks in #radeon may be able to help.
[16:48] <jrib> DarsVaeda: I don't know what postpone is or does.  If the documentation doesn't discuss it either, then you might try using do_release_upgrade (upgrade in the terminal) instead
[16:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: true, but the apt-gotten source still fails on make
[16:48] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: you shouldn't be running make
[16:48] <jrib> directly anyway
[16:48] <designbybeck_> ok thank you adamk_ I'm finishing some other updates, then I'll try to see what all else I can do with the Open Source drivers
[16:48] <Peanut> Are there any big issues known with 13.04 that should keep you from upgrading?
[16:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: and why not? I did ./configure first, if that is what you are worried about?
[16:48] <DarsVaeda> jrib: postpone = there was a button to cancel the upgrade
[16:48] <sere> using 13.4 kernel 3.8 and my synaptic keeps freezing not sure why...no command line outpout either just keeps freezing
[16:49] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: because that's not how you rebuild a deb package (see the link)
[16:49] <jrib> DarsVaeda: I see.  I'm not familiar with it
[16:49] <DarsVaeda> I just foudn an article stating that I first have to install updates then I can upgrade, I'll test that
[16:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: seems excessive to build a deb for it, but this will work. thank you.
[16:51] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: no problem
[16:51] <betrayd> lol then release it
[16:52] <servvs> jrib I am trying to do that, but there are some inconsistencies  with what is happening and it is making it very difficult, for instance with bbfreeze, it is including version 2.7.3 of the python interpreter (which I don't think I even have anymore) and that is causing some version errors
[16:53] <jrib> servvs: do you have things in /usr/local/?  Also, try clearing .pyc files maybe.  #python might be able to help you more in tracing the errors (pastebin them somewhere).  I have to go but feel free to pastebin them to here too
[16:54] <designbybeck_> Ubuntu 13.04 keeps crashing. It goes to a panic occurrred, switching back to text console
[16:55] <designbybeck_> this is about the 4th time i've gotten the panic
[16:57] <Bray90820> how would i get alsamixer setting to stick on reboot
[16:58] <betrayd> there's a save/restore Bray90820 type 'man alsactl
[16:59] <Bray90820> betrayd: so first i do my alsamixer stuff then i do man alsactl
[17:00] <betrayd> man is manual to read about the alsactl options that explain them in full
[17:00] <Bray90820> ahh ok
[17:00] <Bray90820> thank you
[17:00] <betrayd> yw Bray90820
[17:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: functioning :D
[17:02] <gerep> Hi all...90 minutes from now, I need to receive a alert so I can take a break, what's the best application for that? Thanks
[17:02] <apineda> I'm trying to run a python script in a background process using nohup, it's actually a django server, however it's not working unless I run it directly in the terminal (ie not using nohup). I also don't know how ot get this running on startup on ubuntu server.
[17:04] <Myrtti> gerep: sounds like workrave
[17:05] <gerep> Myrtti, thanks, I'll try it ;)
[17:05] <stat_vi> gerep, Myrtti: sounds like `sleep $((90*60)) && notify-send "Alert"` :)
[17:06] <gerep> stat_vi, I did that but was looking for something already done and with a UI =)
[17:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: holy crap, lol. the source code produced 6 deb packages XD
[17:07] <pagios> is this compatible with linux? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100112
[17:11] <nuclearbob> stgraber: ping
[17:13] <theadmin> apineda: To run on startup, you'll need /etc/init/django-server.conf (or something) with two lines: "start on startup" and "exec /path/to/command"
[17:13] <jhutchins_wk> In the command "${ENDIR}/sar $* -f ${DFILE} > ${RPT}" (quotes mine), what does $* do?
[17:15] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: "All of the positional parameters, seen as a single word" (from TLDP)
[17:15] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: That is, if you run your script as ./myscript blah blah bleh bloh, $* is the string "blah blah bleh bloh"
[17:15] <betrayd>  gerep at + xcowsay
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> pagios, seems to but not a ubuntu support question. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/20881
[17:18] <frankbro_> I just installed xubuntu 13.04, installed some update, restarted. Now all I see is some kind of old view like a browser screenshot of several sites (google, webupd8), can't access tty nor kill x. Ssh aint installed. Anyone know what can be done?
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> frankbro_, Try the earlier kernel in 13.04 if there is one and check what was updated and your graphic and additional drivers stuff, and give some real details for help.
[17:28] <Bray90820> how would i auto mount a samba location on boot
[17:28] <Drago> ciao :)
[17:28] <theadmin> Bray90820: to fstab: //servername/sharename mountpoint cifs username=your_username,password=your_password
[17:29] <Noggo> hello
[17:29] <Drago> !LIST
[17:29] <Bray90820> theadmin: is that a terminal command
[17:29] <theadmin> Bray90820: No, add that line to /etc/fstab
[17:29] <theadmin> Bray90820: (modify it accordingly, of course)
[17:29] <Bray90820> well yes :P
[17:30] <dilyarasi> hello
[17:30] <dilyarasi> i have a question
[17:30] <Atlantic777> Hi! I have a computer with 12.04 installed and I was told that the computer randomly freezes and sometimes it can't recover from sleep/suspend. I did upgrade, it seems that upgrade fiexed these problems but I would like to check what was wrong.
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | dilyarasi
[17:30] <Atlantic777> What logs should I check?
[17:30] <__Trullo> I need a fast file indexer for ubuntu, any suggestions?
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Atlantic777: does your ram exceed your swap?
[17:30] <devtekbeta> is there a list of supported wifi cards for ubuntu?
[17:30] <devtekbeta> i cant find it in the wiki/docs
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> __Trullo: locate is nice :D
[17:30] <Noggo> it is possible with ubuntu 13.04 to hide the icon for mounted drives (usb stick/ usb hdd) in the unity launcher
[17:31] <_Trullo> ntzrmtthihu777, I need something for the desktop
[17:31] <Bray90820> theadmin: just at the bottom right?
[17:31] <frankbro_> wilee-nilee: it seems like it messed up my graphic card. I managed to boot from recovery mode but now it won't detect my second screen. lspci does indicate the right card tho.
[17:31] <chutney> devtekbeta, the support cards would be the supported card for all distros of linux using your kernel version
[17:31] <Atlantic777> ntzrmtthihu777: no, I don't think so.
[17:31] <theadmin> Bray90820: Yes, on a new line at the bottom.
[17:31] <Bray90820> ok
[17:31] <Bray90820> thank you
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: What it does is pass sar the -A from /etc/cron.d/sysstat
[17:32] <theadmin> Bray90820: And make sure you have "cifs-utils" installed.
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: But yeah, thanks!
[17:32] <Bray90820> ok
[17:32] <toti55> Ciao a tutti
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> frankbro_, Cool, not my area of pay in general, but details are really helpful. ;)
[17:32] <toti55> 1list
[17:33] <dilyarasi> i will install ubuntu. i have win 7 os an have two partition c and d . c is main win 7. i will install ubuntu to d drive and have some files on d. will ubuntu delete my files on d drive? ntzrmtthihu777
[17:33] <devtekbeta> chutney i do not understand "the supported card for all distros using kernel version" there are many different cards
[17:33] <anew> when i run top, there is a line 'Cpu(s)' what is the difference betwene this and and down where the pid's are and it says %CPU ?
[17:33] <pagios> http://www.amazon.com/KWorld-Expert-Video-Maker-KW-USB2800D/dp/B000234SMQ   can anyone tell me if this device outputs audio on the usb or only on rthe audio_out? trying to connect to ubuntu
[17:33] <devtekbeta> oh you mean i look up the kernel version and see what cards that supports
[17:33] <chutney> yes
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Ubuntu does not use NTFS partitions, and you most likely have at least 3 primaries, maybe a 4th firmware look at the HD from ubuntu.
[17:34] <subsilico> Atlantic777: did you do an apt-get upgrade or a do-release-upgrade?
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> ntfs for instals anyway.
[17:35] <dilyarasi> you mean i need 4 partition for ubuntu install?
[17:35] <Bray90820> theadmin: how would i find my server name i am finding 2 different things and i don't know which one is correct
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi,  No, that windows has 4 already in a standard msdos setup 4 primaries is the limit, or 3 and a exteneded for logicals.
[17:36] <Bray90820> theadmin: nevermind
[17:36] <devtekbeta> ok i want to use ubuntuStudio latest version, it says Ubuntu Kernel 3.5.0-23.35. where can i find a list of wifi cards this supports? i searched google but it dosnt show anything useful
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> many oem installs have 4 primary partitions, two hidden in windows. dilyarasi
[17:37] <chutney> devtekbeta, what have you got already for a wifi card?
[17:37] <devtekbeta> i havnt looked yet. but it is a msi u135 netbook with win7 starter working on it
[17:37] <dilyarasi> ok thnx wilee-nilee
[17:38] <uberamd> devtekbeta: I'd figure out which card you have first
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Cool, just be sure to be backed up prepared for any contingency. ;)
[17:39] <frankbro_> Really weird. Now I installed ssh. Killed x, got sent to I think its lighted, logged back in, as soon as Im logged in, the display becomes trash.
[17:39] <Atlantic777> subsilico: yes, I did upgrade.
[17:39] <subsilico> cool
[17:40] <subsilico> i am having the same issue with stability with 12.10 and i am currently running apt-get upgrade so i hope it fixes it.
[17:40] <jmnoz> running 13.04: oneconf-service and apt-check is consuming a lot of CPU, what's happening?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> frankbro_ You can go to users and make a second account and see if its the same if you login to it, just an option.
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> easily made and removed
[17:40] <Atlantic777> subsilico: actually, this fixed it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:41] <Bray90820> on the menu bar there are usually menus such as places but there not there fo rme
[17:41] <Bray90820> for me
[17:41] <subsilico> Atlantic777: interesting
[17:43] <subsilico> so you had to run that apt-get command?
[17:43] <chutney> devtekbeta, according to msi'2 web site, your m135 netbook can come with several different wifi cards, but if you have windows installed and running you can find out which one in device manager
[17:44] <Atlantic777> subsilico: yes, it leaves lts system but installs X stack from newer release which can fix lots of problems with fresh hardware.
[17:45] <subsilico> hmm, my hardware is old
[17:45] <Bray90820_> k
[17:45] <lucido> whats the pseudo packages name that installs the full desktop ?
[17:45] <Bray90820_> Test can anyone read
[17:45] <chutney> yes
[17:45] <Bray90820_> on the menu bar there are usually menus such as places but there not there for rme
[17:45] <Atlantic777> subsilico: things break from time to time...
[17:46] <nimby> Hi! I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and now I can't boot the system, it just boots to a black screen with a _ blinking away.
[17:46] <Bray90820_> all it says is ubuntu desktop
[17:47] <looop> nimby, its very risky to update like this
[17:47] <looop> i never done it, only clean installs
[17:47] <nimby> it is a clean install
[17:48] <looop> ohh
[17:48] <nimby> I meant that 12.04 has worked fine
[17:48] <devtekbeta> in the device manager it says i have: 802.11bgn 1t1r mini card wireless adapter
[17:48] <zacarias> Hi. I've been trying to load live cd's with 13.04 on my PowerPC mac. I've tried with Kubuntu and Lubuntu. However, after the splash screen, booting freezes on a black screen with some messages, where the last one states "Stoping mount network filesystems". I currently have Kubuntu 12.04 installed on the machine, and that works well. Any help?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nimby, How is a upgrade a clean install?
[17:48] <nimby> i deleted all partitions
[17:48] <nimby> and then installed it
[17:48] <theadmin> zacarias: Ubuntu has special images for macs, are you using them?
[17:48] <jaequery> i currently have setup w/ it's own /boot partition set to 65M. unfortunately it's too small for me to install some other apps that creates additional kernels such as gotroot hardened kernels. can i just tar up the /boot folder, unmount it from partition, and then extract it so that /boot now belongs to the root partition?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nimby, You had a seperate home?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | nimby
[17:49] <nimby> nothing
[17:49] <mike_> is there anyone else in here
[17:49] <zacarias> theadmin: yes, I'm using live cd's for PowerPc mac's
[17:49] <nimby> ok
[17:50] <theadmin> zacarias: Hm okaysies, never mind then. For all I know, staying with LTS usually works better.
[17:50] <n-iCe> hello, question, how can I put linux in a usb to boot with it, this machine has windows.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> nimby, If you have loaded graphic drivers in the past if you get in go to additional drivers after fully updating
[17:50] <chutney> devtekbeta, that's not very descriptive. it might be a prorietary wifi card. msi likes making those. I suppose your best option is running the livecd and seeing if it detects your card
[17:50] <lucido> unetbootin
[17:50] <theadmin> n-iCe: Yes, indeed: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:51] <devtekbeta> ok chutney. can i make a liveusb of ubuntustudio to test it?
[17:51] <nimby>     k
[17:51] <devtekbeta> i have no cd drive
[17:51] <n-iCe> awesome theadmin thanks
[17:51] <chutney> you can boot a liveiso from usb stick, yes
[17:51] <nimby> I'll look in to the moodset thing now, chat won
[17:51] <devtekbeta> cool illl try that thanks
[17:51] <nimby> 't be open, thanks
[17:51] <jmnoz> has anyone got a clue as to why I consistently keep seeing "oneconf-service" and "apt-check" using a lot of CPU on 13.04?
[17:52] <zacarias> theadmin: Yes, but it's a pitty not to be able to upgrade. I'm using Kubuntu 13.04 on a Macbook, and that works fine. It's maybe a PPC issue, or a driver one
[17:52] <jmnoz> I realize those process has to do with the update manager somehow but how can I figure out what the processes are doing?
[17:52] <theadmin> zacarias: That's what I'm saying. If there are issues they're likely going to be fixed in the next LTS (14.04)
[17:52] <subsilico> anyone been watching the ubuntu phone emulator news?
[17:53] <A1Recon> Made a Ubuntu LiveKey using LiLiUSB Creator but for some reason it won't boot from there!!!
[17:53] <zacarias> theadmin: yes, I hope :-(
[17:53] <tobak> hi everyone. i got a problem: encrypted parition... booting with WakeOnLAN. Problem: typing in the passphrase. Do you guys have any idea, how i kann convert my partition back to a normal one ? the encryption wasn't essentia
[17:54] <A1Recon> Can someone help ?? I made a Ubuntu LiveKey using LiLiUSB Creator but for some reason it won't boot from there!!!
[17:55] <Alisthegreatest> hows it going, im a noob and just joined this,this is still somewhat weird.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> Alisthegreatest, Relax and enjoy the damage, lol.
[17:58] <A1Recon> Can someone help ?? I made a Ubuntu LiveKey using LiLiUSB Creator but for some reason it won't boot from there!!!
[17:58] <lucido> A1Recon, stop repeating please
[18:00] <lucido> A1Recon, what are u trying to do?
[18:00] <A1Recon> I am trying to dual boot
[18:01] <A1Recon> win7 ubuntu
[18:01] <looop> how can you dual boot with a usb key
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, This involving a UEFI set up in windows?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> looop, what is the usb for a load for installing or a fulkl install to?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> full*
[18:02] <A1Recon> Never mind got it....
[18:03] <Alisthegreatest> 8-)
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: alot of packages can replace your windows needs these days :p single boot ubuntu is a great idea :p
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> oh he left
[18:06] <Alisthegreatest> hey guys i have a question, are there any software developers here? i want to try a new ide out (used to use vs on windows) looked into eclipse but its all for javascript.
[18:07] <OerHeks> !ide
[18:07] <Alisthegreatest> thanks
[18:07] <zacarias> join #kubuntu
[18:08] <adamk_> Alisthegreatest, Eclipse is not for javascript.
[18:08] <moppers> eclipse has plugins for many languages
[18:08] <adamk_> Alisthegreatest, It's written in java (mostly), supports java natively, and supports many other programming languages.
[18:09] <moppers> never understood the purpose of ide actually
[18:09] <Alisthegreatest> oh , so would i have to add a c/c++ plugins to it?
[18:09] <uberamd> moppers: intellisense style code completion
[18:09] <jmnoz> what is the package  update-notifier-common and why does flashplayer-installer and mcorefonts require it?
[18:09] <moppers> all i want is an integrated debugger, i guess that's useful
[18:10] <jmnoz> I can not understand how those packages are related
[18:10] <uberamd> moppers: yeah. code completion in IDEs is awesome, so is database aware IDEs that know your table structures
[18:10] <dogface> moppers: program in q4
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu troubleshooting
[18:10] <moppers> i've never used code completion, i find it annoying: it's like autocorrect on a phone, but i guess it's a personal thing
[18:11] <moppers> *err i have tried it, but dont use it ever for real
[18:11] <uberamd> moppers: it beats having to remember the syntax and various overloads of every function in a massive project :)
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[18:11] <dogface> moppers: meant qt
[18:11] <trism> jmnoz: both packages use the hooks in update-notifier-common to download the archives those packages install (since they aren't in the repo)
[18:12] <jmnoz> trism: thanks for explaining
[18:12] <Alisthegreatest> has anyone here tried using code blocks?
[18:13] <akaash_tux> hi , i have installed new ubuntu 13.04 on my system . And it is not able to detect my usb-modem . pls help
[18:13] <moppers> code::blocks
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Alisthegreatest: please discuss ubuntu troubles only in this chat mate
[18:13] <jmnoz> trism: it's weird though. Removing that package shouldn't trigger the removal of flash and mcorefonts. But I guess it's the way apt is designed.
[18:13] <Alisthegreatest> sorry
[18:13] <dogface> Alisthegreatest: qt works in code blocks.
[18:14] <jmnoz> trism: is it possible to find out what else requires that package somehow?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Alisthegreatest: ##programming and #ubuntu-offtopic you might find interesting
[18:14] <moppers> lotuspsychje, he's asking about IDEs on ubutnu, how is this not relevant?
[18:14] <trism> jmnoz: apt-cache rdepends update-notifier-common;
[18:14] <jmnoz> trism: thanks!
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> moppers: there's a difference in having trouble with an ubuntu ide and asking if someone is using some
[18:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, I attempted to lock my custom gedit deb via synaptic, but when i run dist-upgrade it still wants to be upgraded. what am I doing wrong? !pinning > ntzrmtthihu777
[18:16] <akaash_tux> hi , i have installed new ubuntu 13.04 on my system . And it is not able to detect my usb-modem .  :(  pls help
[18:16] <nedbat> i'm running a number of terminal windows. Is there a way to get the one with the focus to be white on black, and the others to have a different color scheme, so they are distinguished from the one with focus?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> akaash_tux: what brand is your modem?
[18:17] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: instead of pinning I would just bump the version before you build it: dch -i
[18:17] <akaash_tux> lotuspsychje : micromax
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> akaash_tux: did you install drivers for the device?
[18:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> trism: really worth the effort? I just got a zeitgeist-free gedit, lol. I will, some time in the future, get a new gedit deb and edit & install that too.
[18:19] <akaash_tux> i in previous version of ubuntu 12.04 it was working. I remember i did some config in /etc/modules . but here too i applied the same but it is not working
[18:20] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: it's just how I would do it, since packages are rarely updated in the stable versions, and that way I don't have to worry about removing the pin when I upgrade to the next release later
[18:20] <dogface> Alisthegreatest: i lke qt creator. You can create multi platform programs simple as pie.
[18:20] <akaash_tux> lotuspsychje : i in previous version of ubuntu 12.04 it was working. I remember i did some config in /etc/modules . but here too i applied the same but it is not working
[18:22] <duckstep> i've just upgraded from ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 and my system is now unstable.virtualbox will not run properly and the gnome software center keeps crashing.
[18:22] <duckstep> is there anything i could do to address this?
[18:22] <subsilico> its almost like you didn't upgrade. :)
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> !details | duckstep is your best route here for help.
[18:22] <subsilico> sorry, i'm not helping
[18:23] <Mxx> hey folks. why does linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic (3.5.0-27.46~precise1) have source of linux-lts-quantal_3.5.0-28.48~precise1.tar.gz ?
[18:23] <iceroot> can you recommend a gui-diffviewer which is acting on pasted text and not text-files? so that when i open it i already have 2 windows and can paste text "a" and "b" to get the diff
[18:24] <Mxx> why quantal sounce for precise's kernel?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> Mxx, The stack upgrade.
[18:24] <duckstep> when i start virtualbox, the Virtualbox Manager loads but is unresponsive. i have to kill it with xkill.
[18:24] <duckstep> i'm not getting any error output
[18:24] <Mxx> wilee-nilee: meaning?
[18:24] <subsilico> did you strace it?
[18:25] <duckstep> dmesg is showing segfaults
[18:25] <duckstep> subsilico: good idea, i'll try that
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> Mxx, Not sure of your tar reference here can you explain.
[18:25] <Mxx> wilee-nilee: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic
[18:25] <dogface> duckstep: sounds like you have to rebuild modules for vbox. Unistall it reinstall vbox
[18:26] <duckstep> dogface: that could be it
[18:26] <Azyl> shit
[18:26] <Azyl> fuck
[18:26] <phschwartz> Has anyone seen really slow performance with Intel 82599EB 10Gb cards on 12.04 server?
[18:26] <DJones> Azyl: Stop that
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> Mxx, Here is the stack upgrade info. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> read carefully there are limitations
[18:27] <rogger> Hola a todos
[18:28] <BluesKaj> azy your vocabulary is rather linimted , do you have question about ubunty ?
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> long gone
[18:29] <BluesKaj> yup, my typing speed sucks :)
[18:29] <johnjohn101> wow, it's got to be complicated to do that stack upgrade. good luck with all that.
[18:29] <mogmog_> hello my xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso checksum ok but i can't even get to desktop let alone install it. my computers where i tried to boot it on are okay too. strangely enuf i can boot and install it on virtualbox. any idea?
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> !details > mogmog_
[18:33] <mogmog_> i'm trying to boot and install xubuntu 13.04 from a usb drive but it sez ubi-language crashed and there're options to continue or abort but whatever i click it gets me nowhere, screen stuck
[18:33] <sai_kumar> Hi All, My System time is not stable. When i set it in Ubuntu 13.04, it shows differently in Windows XP (dual boot) and visa-versa. Can some point out what's happening ?
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> mogmog_, Check the sum of the iso.
[18:35] <mogmog_> wilee-nilee: done that and it passed. i can boot the iso on virtualbox
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> mogmog_, Could it be a graphic driver missing, there is a nomodeset option, just guessing here.
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> could be a bad load to the usb
[18:36] <Guest42106> hi.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> mogmog_, There is a check the media on the boot gu if you used a app thats loads the usb allowing this, unetbootin passes by this menu stick.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> gui*
[18:38] <tom_> yo
[18:38] <matt-rk> !
[18:38] <mogmog_> wilee-nilee: maybe. how do i disable/enable nomodeset when booting from usb? i used dd on xubuntu 12.10
[18:38] <Guest42106> can i use any programm to accass on my iPhone
[18:38] <Guest42106> sama iTunes
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > mogmog_,
[18:38] <Guest42106> same
[18:39] <Jordan_U> mogmog_: Since you used dd, you should be able to run the integrity test from the boot menu. Try that first.
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> good ide
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> idea*
[18:39] <iceroot> !iphone | Guest42106
[18:39] <Jordan_U> !iphone | Guest42106
[18:40] <mogmog_> Jordan_U and wilee-nilee: thanks i'll try that. gtg
[18:44] <longshorej> Is there a way for me to determine if a mountpoint is mounted as nfs4 vs nfs3?
[18:44] <sygnous> mount should tell you the version
[18:44] <ubuntu> mmmmmm
[18:45] <sai_kumar> Hi All, My System time is unstable. When I set the time in Ubuntu 13.04, it shows differently in Windows XP (on dual boot) and visa-versa. Can someone please point out what's happening ? Is it a BIOS problem ?
[18:45] <longshorej> sygnous: Just says nfs, no version : /
[18:45] <anew> i'm trying to quit vim :q
[18:45] <anew> this doesn work?
[18:45] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar,  what time does each say?
[18:45] <elkng> Ctrl-c :q!
[18:46] <th0r> sai_kumar: windows assumes the hardware clock is set to local time, linux usually assumes Universal time
[18:47] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar, it's an XP limitation
[18:47] <anew> E37: No write since last change (add ! to override)
[18:47] <anew> i get this when i try to quit vim
[18:47] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, I see a huge difference, I have to reset all the time when I switch OS
[18:47] <anew> how do i exit that ?
[18:47] <jrib> anew: read what elkng told you
[18:47] <anew> oh u have to hit enter
[18:47] <anew> i dont like vim
[18:47] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, but it never happened when i had previous versions of Ubuntu
[18:47] <jrib> anew: you don't have to use i t
[18:47] <dilyarasi> hey i am using windows installer for ubuntu what is installation size?
[18:48] <anew> jrib anything other than nono i can rry ?
[18:48] <anew> *nano i can try
[18:48] <jrib> anew: what do you dislike about nano?
[18:48] <anew> nano i like
[18:48] <jrib> anew: cool, use nano
[18:48] <anew> just want to see if there is anything else out there
[18:49] <anew> because nano doesnt have an 'undo' command
[18:49] <anew> right ?
[18:49] <jrib> anew: it does (see its man page)
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Officially discontinued in 13.04, what release are you trying and why?
[18:49] <anew> ctl-u ?
[18:49] <dilyarasi> i try 12.04 it is ok
[18:50] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar: what does /etc/adjtime say?
[18:50] <jrib> anew: usually meta is alt
[18:50] <dilyarasi> 12.10 sorry
[18:50] <sai_kumar> Thor, Ok. but how do I fix the time. does Linux set the hardware time when i change it?
[18:50] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar: I do ntp on all my machines
[18:50] <Moreece> remind me simple way to query NIC to find out what hardware it is?
[18:50] <dilyarasi> i dont have a purpose wilee-nilee just wan to use ubuntu
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Little or no support is all, and the developer themselves said not for logterm use, generally it can be harder to fix and can be problematic.
[18:51] <hexacode> hey you guys i did an 'echo "fubarf" >> /dev/tty1'   which the utility 'who' reported to be logged in as myself...but i didnt see anything get output to the terminal. is it not supposed to?
[18:51] <th0r> sai_kumar: I did a simple google on configuring the hwclock in linux and found several answers. Never had to do it myself as I don't dual boot
[18:51] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, it shows 0.0 0 0.0 in /etc/adjtime
[18:51] <dilyarasi> wilee-nilee: so what can you advice?
[18:53] <sai_kumar> Thor, Do i need to configure (hwclock) every time i boot into Ubuntu ?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, If, you are not sure you want it use a usb load with persistence, and if you like dualboot it.
[18:53] <th0r> sai_kumar: shouldn't...just set the hwclock in linux to keep local time and it should take care of the issue.
[18:54] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, is ntp a internet sync ?
[18:54] <A1Recon> Currently in the installation process. I chose"install ubuntualongside them". I had already created a 15GB partition for Ubuntu. Next I chose the"advanced partitioning tool".My query is where do I install the boot loader?
[18:54] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar: it can be, yes
[18:54] <giasdfres94> what is ubuntu?
[18:54] <sai_kumar> giasdfres94, LOL !
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, In the mbr if not a uefi
[18:54] <dilyarasi> thx wilee-nilee i will give a try with cd boot
[18:54] <th0r> sai_kumar: the hwclock setting is a tickbox in the install if I remember correctly. It was just probably set to default to utc
[18:55] <giasdfres94> why LOL
[18:55] <h00k> !ubuntu > giasdfres94
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> giasdfres94, Look on the web for general info this is support.
[18:55] <A1Recon> What is uefi? wilee-nilee
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > A1Recon
[18:56] <lucido> my minimal install is stuck at "cleaning up", what do?
[18:56] <th0r> sai_kumar: this might help....https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Time
[18:56] <sai_kumar> thor, if i set the time(top right corner in the Desktop) will it not automatically configure hwclock ?
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> lucido, Minimal install meaning, details are important?
[18:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to download the dependency debs with apt-get download? I'm setting up precise on a tower that shall likely remain isolated from the internet, and I want to install some packages on it first without getting stuck in dependency hell.
[18:57] <lucido> wilee-nilee, the mimal iso 37megabytes
[18:58] <lucido> it installs a base system
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> lucido, I know thats why I asked.
[18:59] <giasdfres94> oh ok
[19:00] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee not a uefi so do I install it in /dev/sda1 Windows 7 (loader) or in /dev/sda2 ?
[19:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: aren't you trying to get rid of win$?
[19:01] <A1Recon> Ntzrmtthihu77 No I am trying to dual boot
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Never add grub to windows it goes to the mbr of the HD installed to no partition #'s
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> sda
[19:01] <wolfgang8741> i'm trying to run a backtrace on compiz following  advanced debug on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCompiz When I execute the run command on gdb the crash occurs, but I also lose control of the display.  It either corrupts or only displays the background when running on the computer with the issue. Any suggestions on how I could get the backtrace?
[19:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> wolfgang8741: get rid of compiz, lol. what in it do you really need?
[19:02] <adamk_> wolfgang8741, ssh in from another machine, and then 'export DISPLAY=:0; gdb compiz' in that ssh session.
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, You in the something other option?
[19:02] <giasdfres94> O:-Is it possible to use adobe premiere on ubuntu?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, unity is a plugin there.
[19:03] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee no I am in install ubuntu alongside them
[19:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: case and point, lol.
[19:03] <n-iCe> is universal usb installer is better than unetbootin?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, You will need the something other option to pint grub, it is the manual install.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> point*
[19:04] <derp> yes hello  :3
[19:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: the only thing I rather liked from compiz was the desktop grid, you know where you drag a window to the edge and it resizes to fit? I got that with a wmcontroll script now :3
[19:04] <DJones> giasdfres94: The wine database suggests it may work, but isn't too sucessful http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=128
[19:04] <genii-around> giasdfres94: Not natively. Some people have had varying degrees of success with it under WINE. You could check their database at http://appdb.winehq.org/
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Why are you telling me, this is support not comments. Comments are allowed but sparingly.
[19:05] <wolfgang8741> adam_, would that also work on a 3 monitor setup issue?  I'm working on getting this for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1170418
[19:05] <wolfgang8741> adamk_, would that also work on a 3 monitor setup issue?  I'm working on getting this for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1170418
[19:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> giasdfres94: what is it, exactly?
[19:05] <giasdfres94> oh ok and is there somethig alternative to premiere that I can use on ubuntu?
[19:06] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to mount a samba location on boot
[19:06] <adamk_> wolfgang8741, It will work for debugging compiz without worrying about losing control of your gdb session because you ran gdb in a terminal in X. It doesn't matter what bug you are trying to debug.
[19:06] <Moreece> can anyoe help me install intel pro 10/100 VE drivers on my ubuntu
[19:06] <giasdfres94> ntzrmtthihu777: premiere is a software to edit videos that runs under win
[19:07] <onr> i think i need to get rid of unity
[19:07] <lucido> wilee-nilee, I'm getting BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! [apt-get:31988]
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: try out xubuntu, its nice.
[19:07] <adamk_> Moreece, There should be nothing to install. Intel NICs are very well supported out of the box.
[19:07] <compdoc> premiere is a heavy duty program
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> lucido, All I could do is google that info.
[19:07] <wolfgang8741> adamk_, thanks I'll give that a shot. I did a remote in, but did not have the 'export DISPLAY=:0; gdb compiz' Thanks
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> giasdfres94: maybe lives?
[19:08] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I wanted to choose which operating system to boot during the computer startup. Can I do that if I use "something else" option? Please keep in mind that I have already shrunk a drive for Ubuntu using the disk management in Win7.
[19:08] <Moreece> adamk: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/fxp.4freebsd.html
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Grub allows that.
[19:08] <giasdfres94> compdoc: yes it really is
[19:08] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I'm in
[19:09] <adamk_> Moreece, Any reason you are looking at the man page for the FreeBSD fxp driver?
[19:09] <giasdfres94>  ntzrmtthihu777: what do you mean?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, I think the install alongside defaults grub to the mbr, so not sure whay you ask, the key here is not having to many primary partitions and making the HD go dynamic.
[19:10] <compdoc> giasdfres94, I have Premier CS4. It might run ok on windows running in Virtualbox. I have a friend who uses Illustrator in Wine, and it works but there are small things like dialog boxes that dont work well
[19:11] <themanthatscool3> hello
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon,If you want a bootloader other than grub then state that.
[19:11] <giasdfres94> I think it will run slowly on my sys becaus it is just a double processor 1600 mhz each
[19:11] <A1Recon> No grub's fine
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> cool lunch time here goodluck
[19:11] <themanthatscool3> anyone using raspberry pi
[19:11] <A1Recon> No grub's fine wilee-nilee
[19:11] <onr> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah i use xubuntu on my laptop
[19:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: then why is compiz an issue?
[19:12] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the MBR of a drive, never to a partition. So if you're given the option between for example "sda" and "sda1", you definitely want to chose "sda", *not* a partition like "sda1".
[19:12] <themanthatscool3> onr: i think its awsome
[19:12] <giasdfres94> I think to video edit mac is a bit better than win and ubuntu
[19:13] <onr> ntzrmtthihu777: problem is unity, i don't like those icons
[19:13] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys I have problem with PCI Ethernet card not detected on Ubuntu 12.04 it same card work well in centos
[19:13] <A1Recon> Thank u Jordan_U
[19:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: I tried migrating from ubuntu to xubuntu in-install, did not work so well. fresh install is best option imho. ttyl, gotta go do some literal debugging.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: Perhaps centos is less picky about non-free firmware.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> ntzrmtthihu777: That's just silly.  aptitude install xfce.
[19:14] <dhanasekaran> jhutchins_wk: any help
[19:14] <onr> ntzrmtthihu777: i'm looking at gnome 3.8 now
[19:14] <giasdfres94> dhanasekaran: may be it is not recongnized correctly have you tryed googling to finde compatible drivers?
[19:15] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: Not unless you can tell us the chipset.
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: then you want gnome-panel not gnome-shell; the latter uses compiz as well.
[19:15]  * ntzrmtthihu777 laters
[19:15] <A1Recon> When I click on install now it says No root file system defined
[19:15] <Savage_CL> /root
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: lspci -nn | grep -i net
[19:16] <dhanasekaran> jhutchins_wk: realtech chipset RTL-8139/8139c/8139C*
[19:16] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee when I click on install now it says no root file system defined
[19:16] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: GNOME Shell does not use compiz, it uses a different composited window manager called mutter.
[19:17] <onr> i'll try gnome classic comes with 3.8
[19:17] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: You might find something here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[19:18] <Bray90820> Can someone explain to me what a credentials file is in cifs
[19:18] <th0r> Bray90820: it contains the username and password for the smb server
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: It's a file that defines the username and pasword to use for a CIFS mount, often used with fstab to automatically mount the share at boot.
[19:19] <hackoo> I am using Internet though USB Modem in my Ubuntu 12.04 but it get disconnects randomly.  I have usbserial and option modules added in /etc/modules  and I use to do modeprobe these modules for connecting my modem. Can anyone have an idea why it get disconnect randomly.
[19:19] <Bray90820> how would i create a credentials file
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> hackoo: Wired or wireless?
[19:20] <th0r> Bray90820: a simple text file with two lines...username=xxx and password=xxx if I remember correctly
[19:20] <hackoo> jhutchins_wk: It's USB Modem... wireless. It's dialup type thing.
[19:20] <Bray90820> th0r: well ant that easy
[19:21] <hackoo> jhutchins_wk: USB modem to connect HSPA/3G/GPRS
[19:21] <Bray90820> th0r: can it have any name
[19:22] <th0r> Bray90820: yes, so long as you use that name in the fstab entry
[19:22] <Bray90820> ok
[19:22] <Bray90820> thank you
[19:23] <Moreece> how come when i goto "additional drivers" ... the enabled is greyed and I cant do anything
[19:23] <adamk_> Moreece, What additional drivers do you see there?
[19:24] <A1Recon> Jordan_U when I select a partition and click change another window pops up where it says "Use as: do not use the partition". Do I set it to "ntfs"? If yes what do I set the "Mount point" to ?
[19:24] <Spark> since upgrading to quantal, my scanner now does not work -- scanimage segfaults
[19:24] <Spark> any suggestions?
[19:24] <Spark> it's a bearpaw 1200cu plus and i've installed the firmware
[19:24] <genii-around> hackoo: Might want to try boot option of usbcore.autosuspend=0
[19:24] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: If that is the partition that you want to use for your root filesystem, then make the filesystem "ext4" and the mount point '/'.
[19:25] <Moreece> adamk: looking around on the net I see the intel pro 100 wifi nics have this problem where they continually disconnect from wlan and dont reconnect
[19:25] <Moreece> most of the info points to a driver issue
[19:25] <hackoo> genii-around: where to set this ?
[19:25] <Moreece> I'd really appreciate some help
[19:25] <Moreece> else I'll have to move away from ubuntu
[19:26] <adamk_> Moreece, "intel pro 100 wifi nics" makes no sense.   intel pro 100 cards are wired, not wireless.
[19:26] <genii-around> hackoo: For one  boot only, edit the line in grub and add it to the end. For permanent, put in /etc/default/grub the line:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="usbcore.autosuspend=0"       save, and then do: sudo update-grub
[19:27] <Moreece> ah ... my bad 3945abg
[19:27] <hackoo> genii-around: ok. got it. Thanks.
[19:27] <A1Recon> Jordan_U thanks!! Hey do I have to enable swap space?
[19:27] <A1Recon> Or can I enable it later on,
[19:28] <genii-around> hackoo: You're welcome. Please let us know if this works.
[19:28] <Biafra> I use fglrx with my AMD GPU, and I just installed a kernel update. Do I have to reinstall fglrx
[19:28] <Biafra> ?
[19:28] <WILLdude> Is there any way to stop my laptop from turning off a connected screen when I close the lid?
[19:28] <adamk_> Moreece, That makes more sense.  I've only used one laptop with an intel wireless nic, and didn't have that particular problem, so I'm not sure there's much I can contribute.  All I can suggest is manually generating a wpa_supplicant.conf file and then  trying to run wpa_supplicant from a terminal and seeing if there are any errors.
[19:28] <WILLdude> *turning off the signal to
[19:29] <adamk_> Biafra, If you installed fglrx using the version packaged for Ubuntu, from the standard repo, then no.
[19:29] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: If you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate) then you need as much swap as you have RAM. You can either make a swap partition or use a swap file. You can add a swap file later on, though that requires manual editing of /etc/fstab.
[19:29] <WILLdude> I've set closing the lid to do nothing.
[19:29] <Tawnee> so... I managed to bork my ubuntu install when I lost power during an update of some sort... Is there anything I should do before reinstalling over it to make sure everything is happy and clean?
[19:29] <A_J> can someone help me install a program i have two file( for two diffrent programs) a tar.gz and a .rpm
[19:29] <Specialist> I just upgraded a Kubuntu 8.04 installation to 12.04 LTS and apparently something went wrong when creting the runlevel symlinks in /etc/rc.x. Is there an easy way to regenerate these?
[19:29] <WILLdude> I want to close the lid and keep the second screen working.
[19:29] <Biafra> adamk_, I did not (Primarily due to issues from Steam). However, the kernel version appears to be unchanged
[19:29] <Norx> anyone know how to set catalyst control center to keep overscan from resetting?
[19:29] <WILLdude> Is there ny way to do that?
[19:30] <WILLdude> *any
[19:30] <Biafra> do I need to reinstall?
[19:30] <hackoo> genii-around: Yes sure.. One more issue.. Every time I want to plug my USB modem, I need to do "modeprobe usbserial" and "modprobe option"  otherwise it do not get detected and not shown in network.  Is there a way so that I don't need to do this and my USB modem get detected just after plugging in.
[19:30] <Jordan_U> Tawnee: Check that the hardware itself is fine (you can check the SMART status of the drive). Other than that, a re-install is a re-install (What used to be there doesn't matter).
[19:30] <adamk_> Biafra, Well check if acceleration is working.  If it is, you don't need to reinstall fglrx.  If it's not, then you need to reinstall fglrx.
[19:30] <WILLdude> So why does my monitor stop when the lid closes?????
[19:31] <Specialist> s/8.04/10.04/
[19:31] <Tawnee> Jordan_U, thanks
[19:32] <genii-around> hackoo: The proper way would be to write an udev rule for this and then put it in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[19:32] <WILLdude> Can anyone answer?
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> WILLdude: Because the keyboard's in the way?
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !patience | WILLdude
[19:34] <Liam-> WILLdude: i doubt there is any way to keep the secondary screen on if the first is turned off via the host screen
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> WILLdude, Default the home sreen to the ecternal and turn off the internal and you can close the lid.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> s/screen/external
[19:35] <hackoo> genii-around: it seems advance thing to me.. Writing udev rules. Is there some doc which I can refer to learn this and solve my issue. Learning and solving issue on own would be very interesting for me.
[19:37] <A1Recon> Jordan_U It's installing!!! YAY!!
[19:37] <vinceve_> hi
[19:37] <genii-around> hackoo: There is a little bit old example for always making a certain USB hard drive be the same device ( like always /dev/sdb no matter what USB port you plug it into for example) , it can be used for learning: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[19:37] <vinceve_> Does someone has experience with amd cards that are overheating ?
[19:38] <Biafra> okay, looks like the it worked without reinstalling fglrx, adamk_
[19:38] <Biafra> at least so far
[19:38] <Biafra> had to reboot though to test it out.
[19:38] <adamk_> Biafra, Yeah, if the kernel version stayed the same, I'd expect it to be fine, but couldn't be sure.
[19:38] <hackoo> genii-around: ok. that is good.
[19:39] <vinceve_> Does someone has experience with amd cards that are overheating ? (HD5400 series)
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> vinceve_, The channel works with actually explaining the problem in details.
[19:40] <brian____> I don't remember who told me that it was easier to buy a supported wireless card instead of messing with the ones I had available.  But it couldn't have been more true, I wish I would have asked for help.  The new card took longer putting it into the machine then to configure.
[19:40] <deadweasel> I'm back.  I have done a full remove and reinstall of latest fglrx 13.4.  I have removed and reinstalled Xorg.  I have configured both.     fglrxinfo gives me: Error: unable to open display (null)
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> brian____, I know I said that.
[19:40] <adamk_> deadweasel, Are you running that command as root?
[19:40] <deadweasel> #ati has not been able to help me
[19:40] <fireun> when a version number in a package looks like 1.1.7+2.0.0-1, does that mean it is version 1.1.7 but patched? or what?
[19:40] <deadweasel> adamk_: no
[19:41] <deadweasel> root does not have access
[19:41] <vinceve_> Ok, I did a clean install of ubuntu 13.04, my fans are running really hard and my pc turned off a few times because it was overheated
[19:41] <deadweasel> adamk_: I did full update and dist-upgrade too.
[19:41] <adamk_> deadweasel, So you are running that in a terminal window, in X, as the same user who owns the X session?
[19:41] <vinceve_> I tried installing the catalyst drivers from amd itself
[19:42] <moza> hello
[19:42] <vinceve_> that fixed the problem "a bit" but I'm still running in idle mode around the 70, 75 degrees.
[19:42] <moza> are there any known problems with ubuntu and multiple RAM sticks?
[19:43] <deadweasel> adamk_: it's possible....
[19:43] <deadweasel> if x session is running, I'm ssh ed in right now from work
[19:43] <deadweasel> lightdm is a running process...
[19:43] <deadweasel> shit, maybe it works now and I just can't see it
[19:43] <deadweasel> i'll let you know in 45 mintues when I get home
[19:43] <adamk_> deadweasel, You didn't say you were ssh'ed in :-)
[19:44] <adamk_> deadweasel, Run 'DISPLAY=:0 fglrxinfo'
[19:44] <adamk_> vinceve_, Clean the fans :-)
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Please keep the language clean. ;)
[19:44] <vinceve_> adamk, they are clean, I checked it
[19:44] <deadweasel> adamk_: No protocol specified
[19:44] <deadweasel> No protocol specified
[19:44] <deadweasel> Error: unable to open display (null)
[19:44] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: pardon me!
[19:45] <brian____> wilee-nilee, well thanks, I got the asus pce-n10 and it works great.  Except for some random 1000ms pings, which I honestly don't care about.
[19:45] <riddrib> how can make money ?
[19:45] <edrisse> @adamk : nice command , I did not know it
[19:45] <edrisse> thanks
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> !ot > riddrib
[19:45] <vinceve_> adamk_ also on windows, my laptop doesn't have that problem
[19:46] <riddrib> how do that?
[19:46] <adamk_> deadweasel, Yeah, then check when you get home :-)
[19:46] <edrisse> @vinceve : we are on the Ubuntu channel
[19:46] <onr> just installed gnome 3.8, it's the most horrible thing i've ever seen on a computer.
[19:46] <edrisse> switch to XFCE
[19:46] <Norx> amen
[19:46] <edrisse> it will change your life
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> onr, Not a stock installed and not supported.
[19:47] <deadweasel> adamk_: Thank you...  you have given me much of your time.  I appreciate it.
[19:47] <adamk_> vinceve_, I'm not familiar with fan and power management with with radeon GPUs.  I just let mine run at whatever temperature they run at, but perhaps there is an option somewhere in the AMD catalyst control center to adjust the fan speed or GPU clockspeed.
[19:47] <thomedy> if i make download blender and untar it in /usr/lib
[19:47] <thomedy> will i get that neat icon that goes in the sidebar
[19:47] <thomedy> im on 12.04
[19:47] <vinceve_> @adamk_ I'll check it out
[19:48] <k1l> thomedy: not by untar'ing it into the folder only
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, Hard to sayyou can make a launcher though and put it there.
[19:48] <thomedy> how do i get that icon... i like it
[19:48] <thomedy> doesn't launcher only giv e you a springgy icon though
[19:48] <thomedy> can you change that icon
[19:48] <k1l> thomedy: mke it yourself, or use a official install or a PPA or a .deb
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> !enter > thomedy
[19:49] <ChogyDan> thomedy: try a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender
[19:49] <k1l> thomedy: blender is in the repos, why not install that?
[19:49] <k1l> !find blender
[19:49] <TheEpTic> !find htop
[19:50] <TheEpTic> !find tcl
[19:50] <vinceve_> @adamk_ nothing found there :(
[19:50] <thomedy> well i went to the blender room and they said get the download from blender .org and thats it... also i have the one from the wharehow or whatever icon is on the right wher eyou download software but it doens't defaault to a cycles render engin which is fine but i want that and its old
 thomedy: mke it yourself, or use a official install or a PPA or a .deb
[19:50] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, how can I install sun-java6-jdk ?
[19:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> on Ubuntu 12.04, 32 bit
[19:51] <vinceve_> I also tried researching the problem and it seems that there are a lot of troubles with AMD mobility HD5xxx series.
[19:51] <thomedy> Safa_[A_boy], sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[19:51] <thomedy> thast your best bet
[19:51] <schultza> i have a printer server running cups 1.4.4 and i have another computer that i just upgraded to 13.04 64 bit. It is not seeing any printers. It doesnt even seem to scan for printers, ie: immediate response "no printers'.
[19:51] <neo1691> Safa_[A_boy]: Have you tried downloading the deb from the official website?
[19:51] <k1l> thomedy: sun java is not in the repos anymore
[19:51] <thomedy> but im no pro so if im wrong someonecan correct me
[19:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> no
[19:51] <thomedy> is it not
[19:51] <thomedy> bummer
[19:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:52] <schultza> all other computers are able to see printers from cups 1.4.4
[19:52] <basss> hello, how can i install ubuntu from another linux distibution without a usb or cd ?
[19:52] <thomedy> okay .deb is dpkg right
[19:52] <schultza> basss, try network boot?
[19:52] <k1l> Safa_[A_boy]: ubuntu was forbidden to deliver it anymore. so its not in the repos. so get it from java itself
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Safa_[A_boy], Take your pick. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=&bih=&q=12.04+install+sun-java6-jdk&gbv=1&nfpr=&spell=1&sa=X&ei=ORWEUciHF-H6iwLdpYDgAg&ved=0CB4QvwU
[19:52] <basss> schultza: how does it work ?
[19:52] <Dr_willis> basss,  'debootstrap' is one way. but its not trivial.
[19:53] <Bray90820_> is there an Amazon MP3 plugin for Rhythmbox
[19:53] <vinceve_> Safa
[19:53] <vinceve_> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu precise main" sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer oracle-java7-set-default
[19:53] <riddrib> ready have the blender
[19:53] <schultza> basss, you'll need a tftp, dhcp configured correctly and pxelinux...
[19:53] <Dr_willis> !java | Safa_[A_boy]
[19:53] <schultza> be back
[19:53] <vinceve_> in that repository of webupdate they have the java
[19:53] <basss> Dr_willis ill check it out
[19:54] <basss> schultza sounds pretty complex
[19:55] <KeyboardNotFound> I trying to create link (ln) but i have this error: hard link not allowed for directory
[19:55] <thomedy> hard links only work on files
[19:55] <thomedy> ln -s
[19:56] <thomedy>  for a directory
[19:56] <thomedy> if yo uneed it
[19:56] <FloodBot1> thomedy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <thomedy> damnit im sorry i really dont mean to its a habit
[19:57] <Ownix> I have selected my server to be a "Virtual Machine Host" what do I need to do as far as configuration after the server boots for the first time? Does it come with ubuntu-vm-builder or virt-veiwer?
[19:59] <Bray90820> I'm sorry but anyone who is cisco certified should know what samba is
[19:59] <schultza> basss, it is
[19:59] <schultza> i have a printer server running cups 1.4.4 and i have another computer that i just upgraded to 13.04 64 bit. It is not seeing any printers. It doesnt even seem to scan for printers, ie: immediate response "no printers'. all other computers are able to find printers shared by cups 1.4.4
[19:59] <basss> schultza i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[20:00] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: the error is self-explanatory. Maybe you want to use a symbolic link instead?
[20:00] <KeyboardNotFound> problem solved, thank you very much
[20:00] <vinceve_> Ok, I did a clean install of ubuntu 13.04, my fans are running really hard and my pc turned off a few times because it was overheated7
[20:00] <Ownix> thats weird...
[20:00] <schultza> basss, that doesnt seem as complex as my option at first.. and my option requires two computers
[20:01] <vinceve_> I tried installing the catalyst drivers from amd itself
[20:01] <vinceve_> that fixed the problem "a bit" but I'm still running in idle mode around the 70, 75 degrees.
[20:02] <brian____> vinceve_, you've verified that in some other OS that it has a healthy idle temp?
[20:02] <vinceve_> yes, in windows it's around 40 to 50 degrees
[20:03] <Ownix> I selected Virtual Machine Host from the Ubuntu installer, I have now booted into the OS and I do not see the group "libvirtd" does this mean something is wrong
[20:03] <Ownix> ?
[20:04] <vinceve_> @brian___ any other ideas per accident ? :)
[20:05] <thomedy> okay screw blender .org
[20:05] <thomedy> the file suffix is bz2
[20:05] <thomedy> and i tar -xf 'd it and it says it snot bzip2
[20:05] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[20:05] <thomedy> so ill  do that ppa thing
[20:05] <Dr_willis> i dont think -xf is right for a  bz2
[20:06] <Dr_willis> unp whatever.bz2     should work
[20:06] <jrib> Dr_willis: it's j but tar is smart enough now to not need j specified
[20:06] <thomedy> oh thats what google told me cuz i usualy us gz
[20:06] <thomedy> okay iill check unp
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, I have never seen that option, can you give complete details and your goals here.
[20:07] <brian____> vinceve_, No sorry.  I was just trying to make sure it wasnt the card and with the drivers you don't have many options.  It does seem strange that going from the repo to amd drivers you saw any drop in temp.  What happens if you purge all of the AMD stuff, I know you wont be able to get temp easily, but you might be able to hear the fans.
[20:08] <thomedy> unp right? i tried to man it i didn't have a man then i tried sudo apt-get install unp and nothing happend i jus tupgraded to 12.04 so i dontknow if its in 12.04 default
[20:08] <vinceve_> @brian__ I'm fairly new to linux, how can I purge it ? uninstall the dpkg's ?
[20:08] <Dr_willis> unp is the package name. the bot just said so.
[20:09] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: http://refugeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ubuntu-Roles.png
[20:09] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: mre specifically http://i.imgur.com/dE4x9ab.png
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, That is a net install what is your goal here?
[20:10] <brian____> vinceve_, -  'sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle'
[20:10] <vinceve_> ok thanks
[20:11] <brian____> actually, you said you're usind them from AMD
[20:11] <vinceve_> I downloaded them from there website, build the dpkg's and installed them
[20:12] <Biafra> hmmm... is it just me, or is flash a little faster than usual
[20:12] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: I would like my Ubuntu Server install to be a virtual machine host running KVM. I would like to know what additional packages i will need and addition configuration i will need to do after installing Ubuntu 12.04 Server edition with the "Virtual Machine Host" networking software selection  install option selected.
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, you would boot that iso in the virtual then and install.
[20:12] <vinceve_> ok brian, I uninstalled them
[20:12] <riddrib> how can help to installing?
[20:12] <vinceve_> Now probably a reboot ? :)
[20:13] <Biafra> okay, it seems to be pretty much all video in chrome...
[20:13] <thomedy> nm... i had what i thought ws the download link it took me to a differn tpage
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, I'm not familiar with the "Virtual Machine Host" networking software.
[20:14] <Ownix> wilee-nilee:  does Virtual Machine Host not mean Parent for child virtual machines?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, I don't know.
[20:14] <Biafra> anyone know why that is? I go and listen to Gordon Ramsey over Hulu and he sounds like he's on helium
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> maybe he is
[20:15] <Biafra> not in this video
[20:16] <Biafra> I think Chrome has an issue with video or something
[20:16] <vinceve> @brian___ how can I check the temp now ?
[20:16] <vinceve> I purged them :)
[20:16] <Ownix> what is the difference between apt-get dist upgrade and do-release-upgrade?
[20:16] <benw909909> hi all - just gearing up for installing a 2nd HDD to my win7 tower for 12.04 dual-boot. I am planning the partition scheme: Given its 1TB 2nd drive, I'm wondering if its OK to have an NTFS partition of say 400Gb for the windows Os and Ubuntu to share?
[20:16] <adamk_> Biafra, Is it using flash?
[20:17] <Biafra> the hulu video is, the youtube one is not
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, A shred NTFS is a good thing.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[20:18] <pr0t> I have a Lenovo toga 13 and just upgraded to unbuntu 13.04 and now the wifi doesn't work at all does anyone know of a fix for this?
[20:18] <anew_> http://pastebin.com/bng120t9 anyone know if these firewall rules block remote access to mysql ?
[20:18] <genii-around> wilee-nilee: I tend to think that wasn't a typo
[20:18] <frankbro> Anyone know if theres a workaround for jockey/additional driver problem involving "ImportError: No module named NvidiaDetector.nvidiadetector". I have no nvidia hardware in my machine ...
[20:18] <Biafra> yep, definitely a chrome issue (firefox doesn't cause it)
[20:19] <guntbert> Ownix: only do-release-upgrade takes you to the next Ubuntu version, dist-upgrade is nearly the same as upgrade but does install additional packages too
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> genii-around, fanboi huh.
[20:19] <thomedy> all better
[20:19] <benw909909> I will install Ubuntu 12.04 in recommended partitions /, /home /swap for Ubu of maybe 600GB total but the other 400gn would be somewhat wasted: best use would be NTFS the Primary Windows (dumb OS) can read whereas I know with ntfs addon 12.04 will be Ok to use that NTFS partition. Should I wait til 12.04 is installed on start of new drive and add the NTFS shared partition afterwards in the Free Space - or shoudl I setup ALL parts at inst
[20:20] <Biafra> okay, found the solution to that in chrome (was a conflict with the Pepper and NPAPI plugins)
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, ubuntu will see the NTFS share install it when you want.
[20:21] <Ownix> guntbert: so to do a full update id do: apt-get update, do-release-upgrade, apt-get-update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:22] <uvala> hi everyone, something very new just happened. the computer was doing only file transfer between drives and playing a video. suddenly a full command line screen appeared, which had a line at the top with Windbid or similar in it, while the mouse froze and a shrill constant sound came. I powered off and on. then came the update manager with 4 antivirus utilities for Unix, warning that the packages are untrusted..can anyone tell me what the hell has been going o
[20:22] <uvala> n?!..:)
[20:22] <benw909909> of course even my live usb 12.04 can alreday see all the Windows folders...DOH! So sounds like I'll install the 12.04 on crisp new 2nd drive and just leave 400gb Unallocated. Then once 12.04 boots OK then I can partitiont he remaining space as NTFS and both OS's will be able to use it. great Wilee I'm ready...cant wait! Thanks
[20:22] <vinceve> Hey, I installed ubuntu 13.04 on a dell inspiron 5010 with an AMD 5400 mobility video card. The problem now is that my notebook overheats constantly even idle it's running around 70 degrees.
[20:23] <dkettman_> Question: Is it possible to use a VirtualBox guest as someone's shell upon login?
[20:23] <benzrf> hello!
[20:23] <benzrf> I restarted my computer after it started acting out on the off chance that it might help, and all of a sudden I have two problems:
[20:23] <dkettman_> Reason: My wife is just more comfortable in Windows and I would like to have a Windows VM come up when she logs in as her user.
[20:23] <benzrf> 1. My sound doesn't seem to work
[20:23] <benzrf> 2. Unity is absurdly laggy
[20:23] <benzrf> I have quantal
[20:23] <Ownix> dkettman_:  what are you asking? You have an SSH sever running on the guest? just give them that Guests IP address
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> uvala, Not with that description, to broad and no real details.
[20:24] <guntbert> Ownix: not quite: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (maybe apt-get dist-upgrade); THEN do-release-upgrade; apt-get update, apt-get upgrade (maybe (if there are packages left) apt-get dist-upgrade)
[20:24] <Ownix> guntbert:  makes sense
[20:24] <diamonds> what are all these /lib/modules/n.n.n-nn-generic files?
[20:25] <diamonds> do I need them all?
[20:25] <diamonds> my / is filling up :/
[20:25] <diamonds> I need to resize it but for now I'm trying to clean it up
[20:25] <diamonds> i didn't realize how much went in / (not /home)
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> dkettman_, Why are you just not dualbooting it?
[20:25] <benzrf> help D:
[20:25] <giorgos79> eine frei fraü bitte..................
[20:25] <bekks> diamonds: You could remove old kernels, which will remove those old files too.
[20:25] <dkettman_> No, On the machine, the Host OS is Ubuntu 13.04
[20:25] <uvala> wilee-nilee, I dont know how to take a screenshot when all is frozen. at least is it ever heard of? out of nothing this black screen full with command lines up to down appeared, the laptop screaming
[20:26] <guntbert> !patience | benzrf
[20:26] <diamonds> bekks, how do I go about doing that?
 finally one more query: what partition scheme do you recommend for my 2nd HDD with 12.04 dual-boot (remembering I need one primary NTFS for the above). I underatnd I can have 4 primary total - think default is One Primary and 3 logical for Ubuntu...should I follow that or use more Primaries?
[20:26] <dkettman_> wilee-nilee, Because I want to keep it up so I can SSH in and do work on whatever programming what-not I'm doing...
[20:26] <tasha> Hello, I was wondering if I could get someone to help me figure out how to get skype to work on my ubuntu 13.04 64 bit install.
[20:26] <dkettman_> If it isnt possible, then I will just make an icon for the wife to click on, but would be nicer if I could have her just login and it come up as Windows.
[20:26] <bekks> diamonds: You could use synaptic or the software center to remove old kernels.
[20:27] <diamonds> bekks, thank you
[20:27] <diamonds> bekks, does this look legit? http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, Personally I put ubuntu in one partition and a swap, all in an extended partition, I have 4 OS right now on one HD.
[20:27] <diamonds> oh nm I don't use dpgk
[20:27] <guntbert> !de  | giorgos79
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, Some like a separate home, I don't need that myself.
[20:27] <uvala> wilee-nilee, the video was downloaded from youtube, thus it makes me think of a virus attack. specially when I get anti-virus updates right after it.
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> uvala, Ubuntu and antivirus makes no sense, what have you installed?
[20:28] <diamonds> I don't have something called "kernel" installed according to the software center
[20:28] <bekks> diamonds: The packages are names linux-
[20:28] <tasha> no ideas on how to fix skype in ubuntu 13.04 64 bit?
[20:28] <bekks> diamonds: The packages are names linux-*
 great pal ta - I'll just follows its recommendations of One Primary and rest extended/logical. I did read it really works fine with all extended as you say though some "theoretical" guides warn against ie people who claim they know but havent actually lived with it much. Whereas you sound like you KNOW it will work as you ARE using it already that way. Thanks again..
[20:29] <genii-around> diamonds: The kernel packages are named like  linux-image-<some-kernel-version-here>
[20:30] <uvala> I installed nothing except from repositories. only two days ago I installed Blender's latest version, since it was newer than the repo one. aside from that, I downloaded the referred youtube video a few hours ago. In the first time I was watching it, this happened.
[20:30] <uvala> wilee-nilee, I installed nothing except from repositories. only two days ago I installed Blender's latest version, since it was newer than the repo one. aside from that, I downloaded the referred youtube video a few hours ago. In the first time I was watching it, this happened.
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, I have W8 and its boot partition as primaries, and 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 in an extended with one swap. Ubuntu will run in a extended completely, the exteneded just allows for more logical partitions then primaries.
[20:31] <schultza> ok.. fixed my cups 1.4.4 to cups 1.6.x problem
[20:31] <Revo-F> tasha, try to find something here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
 sorted:)
[20:31] <diamonds> bekks, hmm... am I looking in the right place? http://i.imgur.com/tXDbWUz.png genii-around
[20:31] <louisdk> I'm trying to play 720p video over nfs on local network via lan but it lacks. Any tips on debugging?
[20:32] <schultza> for those that want to know, check your /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf (and dont forget to restart the service "cups-browsed")
[20:33] <diamonds> bekks, genii-around will this find it? `apt-cache search --installed linux-image`
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> uvala, I have no exsperience with blender, I just noticed that your description is slightly nonsensical without exacting details. AV in ubuntu can be installed you have no mention of if you have or any real specificities, we can't read your mind.
[20:33] <diamonds> shows quite a few packies...
[20:33] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to mount my mom's android phone to my laptop so i can put files on it when she needs me to, but i'm not sure what my vendor id is in lsusb.
[20:33] <bekks> diamonds: dpkg -l linux-image shoudl show you all packages named like that
[20:34] <Biomechd> uvala: what's your blender question? i'm a blender user, too.
[20:34] <diamonds> bekks, that gives me an error
[20:34] <diamonds> bekks, http://hastebin.com/gehesacumo.vbs
[20:34] <diamonds> I think I have found the packs with apt-cache
[20:35] <diamonds> now to remove... I can remove all but highest number? (linux-image-3.2.0-41-lowlatency-pae - Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on x86)
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: You shouldn't need to know anything about the vendor id. Is the phone configured to share files when connected via USB? If so, through what method? When you plug the phone in does it appear as a device in Nautilus (the GUI file manager)?
[20:35] <diamonds> welll I need the _64 one
[20:35] <diamonds> so remove all !_64 and < packagenumber.greatest
[20:35] <diamonds> s/and/or/
[20:36] <uvala> wilee-nilee, it is a fact that I get antivirus updates, I can put a screenshot here if you like. Aside from the initial problem, I dont know what I am supposed to do with a unix antivirus update that appears and yet warns me that it is not authenticated. it will do if I know the answer to this part
[20:36] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: the thing i was following said to install mtpfs and get the vendor id and such. i told it to enable usb debugging and also told it to act as a usb mass storage device.
[20:36] <bekks> diamonds: You generally want to remove all of them, but the one which is currently in use - check uname -r to get the currently used version.
[20:36] <guntbert> diamonds: not everything apt-cache shows is installed if I remember correctly
[20:37] <benzrf> 1. my sound doesn't work; 2. unity is so laggy it's painful to use. Could it be possible that my sound and graphics cards are somehow unavailable? I think I might have accidentally partially upgraded to raring...
[20:37] <diamonds> guntbert, well I used --installed with apt-cache search...
[20:37] <uvala> Biomechd, thank you, the current question is not directly about blender. I got some antivirus updates for unix right after a strange screen freezing-interruption happened. I was telling about what I recently installed. it was the latest blender.
[20:37] <diamonds> I didn't check that it worked tho ;)
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> benzrf, "partially upgraded to raring"?
[20:38] <diamonds> haha... apt-cache gtfo.  guntbert http://hastebin.com/givifigile.sm
[20:38] <benzrf> I think I started the script and then ctrl+c'd
[20:38] <benzrf> idk
[20:38] <guntbert> diamonds: in that case you are ahead of me :)
[20:38] <Biomechd> uvala: i highly doubt blender had anything to do with it, unless you got an unofficial build, like from graphicall or a torrent somewhere. graphicall and torrent builds are developed by community members.
[20:39] <diamonds> guntbert, doesn't appear to do anything ^
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: If you configured it to act as USB Mass Storage then you don't need mtpfs (as that's for MTP), and in both USBMS mode and MTP mode the device should show up in nautilus when plugged in. When in USBMS mode it should also show up if you run "sudo blkid", and you should be able to mount it via the terminal just like any other partition on a USB drive.
[20:39] <benzrf> all I know is, it tells me to upgrade when I log in on one of the other viewports, but when I run the script it says I'm uptodate
[20:40] <diamonds> is there a 1-click way to clean up these old kernels?
[20:40] <uvala> Biomechd, I also dont think it is Blender. I've downloaded it 2-3 days ago, and nothing happened since. On the contrary, I was watching the first time a youtube video that I downloaded a few hours ago, and the screen turned to a torrent of command lines while the machine started non-stop squeaking.
[20:41] <diamonds> obv. it would be ridiculously bad UX for every user to have to go thru the process I did to keep their computer from filling up with useless old kernels
[20:41] <guntbert> diamonds: no 1-click way, I use aptitude search linux-* |grep "^i" to search for installed linux packages only
[20:41] <diamonds> hrm...
[20:42] <benzrf> this sux
[20:42] <diamonds> what's the workflow for non-terminal users ("regular folks" who had a friend set them up with ubuntu, the "easy to use" linux)
[20:42] <bekks> diamonds: dpkg -l | ... -- basically like the approach you posted but didnt want to use.
[20:42] <diamonds> bekks, oh I'm happy to use it.  I thought dpkg was another package manager :p
[20:42] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: how do i know which thing in blkid is the phone? the only thing that's obvious is "system_drv" and "windows7_os"
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, Ubuntu tweak can do it with the janitor, honestly it is not that hard if you know how to.
[20:42] <bekks> diamonds: dpkg is the package manager. apt is just a frontend. :P
[20:42] <diamonds> wilee-nilee, what is the janitor?
[20:42] <guntbert> diamonds: compared with the rest of the system the old kernels don't amount much :-)
[20:43] <diamonds> guntbert, well... I had ~1.5GB of old kernels
[20:43] <diamonds> is there any utility in storing these for 99% of users?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, You focused on janotor, not that t s inside ubuntu tweak.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> it is*
[20:43] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: It will be a vfat fileystem for one. Please pastebin the output of "blkid" and also of "dmesg".
[20:43] <onr> so, xubuntu is just awesome
[20:44] <diamonds> wilee-nilee, oh "ubuntu tweak" is the name of the software?
[20:44] <diamonds> sry I didn't recognize it
[20:44] <uvala> ok, cleaning the slate, concise and reformulated: what am I supposed to do with an update manager that contains 4 anti-virus updates for Unix, and warns me that they are not authenticated? install them? ignore them?
[20:44] <diamonds> I'll give it a whirl
[20:44] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: the only "vfat" filesystem in the list is my flash drive.
[20:44] <diamonds> shiiiiit
[20:45] <diamonds>  sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-3*
[20:45] <diamonds> somehow this removed the latest one (/lib/modules/3.2.0-41-generic)
[20:45] <bekks> diamonds: Then install the latest again. sudo apt-get install ...
[20:45] <diamonds> bekks, ah thanks
[20:45] <diamonds> but http://hastebin.com/qosuvekuxe.vdl
[20:45] <diamonds> is my bootloader all messed up?
[20:46] <diamonds> do I need all of these or just one: "linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic linux-image-3.2.0-41-lowlatency linux-image-3.2.0-41-virtual rtirq-init"
[20:47] <MySystemIsScrewe> Hey.
[20:47] <MySystemIsScrewe> I have a problem with my system.
[20:47] <diamonds> MySystemIsScrewe, any more info? :)
[20:48] <MySystemIsScrewe> It can't boot into terminal in recovery mode.
[20:49] <MySystemIsScrewe> Nothing is working.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and also of "dmesg".
[20:49] <bekks> !details | MySystemIsScrewe
[20:49] <uvala> any assistance with my problem?
[20:50] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: do you need the "dmseg" output if i've already found the phone listed in it, or can you just tell me how to mount it?
[20:51] <OerHeks> uvala, what antivirus ? what howto did you follow to install them, not authenticated means no trusted key.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: I'd prefer the full output. Any reason not to give it?
[20:51] <uvala> OerHeks, I will put a screenshot, please bear with me
[20:52] <explodes> Hey dudes/dudettes! Where would I find the source of "Keyboard Layout Finder" that you can walkthrough when you install? I'm downloading the whole quantal source repo right now, but where would I start?
[20:52] <MySystemIsScrewe> I am running 12.04, the system can't boot for unknown reasons (Many) and running fsck with the Gparted live cd turnes out fine.
[20:52] <OerHeks> uvala why can't you just name them?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: To mount it you click on the icon that shows up in nautilus, or use the mount command (using the device which showed up in blkid's output). Clearly things aren't working as they should, so we need to figure out what's wrong before we can mount the device.
[20:53] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: well, i noticed that "dmseg" seems to be outputting a lot of the processes that my laptop goes through, and i found where it says "found new usb device" and then starts talking about the phone.
[20:55] <uvala> ok, they are 4 packages, each called anti-virus utility for Unix - commandline interface, base package, virus database update utility, library. when I select "install" then comes the warning with unauthenticated packages that says "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." and the details show: libjs-jquery libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 network-manager-gnome qjackctl
[20:55] <uvala> OerHeks, ok, they are 4 packages, each called anti-virus utility for Unix - commandline interface, base package, virus database update utility, library. when I select "install" then comes the warning with unauthenticated packages that says "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." and the details show: libjs-jquery libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 network-manager-gnome qjackctl
[20:55] <MySystemIsScrewe> The booting process get's stuck when it's starts up diffrent services (Earlier when starting brcmsmac, and before that drm) right now when starting the touchpad.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: I'm sorry but I don't have time to try to help you if you won't answer my questions.
[20:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: question: should there be a /root/.local file?
[20:56] <OerHeks> uvala so where did you get those packages?
[20:57] <OerHeks> uvala lok up the manual for your antivirus and get the key > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[20:57] <OerHeks> c/look
[20:57] <uvala> OerHeks, from nowhere. ubuntu update manager popped up like it does every time.
[20:57] <uvala> OerHeks, and there were these packages in it
[20:57] <uvala> OerHeks, I have no antivirus
[20:58] <OerHeks> uvala then remove those updates
[20:58] <MySystemIsScrewe> Hello?
[20:58] <uvala> OerHeks, I havent installed them yet, how can I remove them?
[20:58] <OerHeks> those come not out of the blue, you must have accepted/installed something
[20:59] <uvala> OerHeks, you mean deselect them?
[20:59] <guntbert> uvala: deselect them in the update
[20:59] <MySystemIsScrewe> Hello????
[20:59] <OerHeks> uvala, yes, and you can remove installed packages later so this won't  return
[20:59] <brian____> I just installed X with nodm and fglrx, when I run startx is immediatly crashes, the entire computer, not just X, and when i reboot the Xorg log has nothing of value, something else I should check?
[20:59] <guntbert> !patience | MySystemIsScrewe
[21:00] <basss> hey everyone, im trying to install ubuntu without usd or cd
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> basss: likely is not gonna happen unless you have grub already.
[21:00] <ubuntuaddicted> basss, you have a floppy?
[21:00] <basss> ntzrmtthihu777 i do have grub already how can i proceed
[21:01] <simpleuser> Hello there. I've got a noob question here. I'd like to use a software like thunderbird to read my mails. The problem is I'm using two computers. Question : Could it be possible to have all my emails on my both computers in a mail software or do I have to use a webmail ?
[21:01] <basss> ubuntuaddicted no
[21:01] <ubuntuaddicted> basss, oh, but you already have grub installed?
[21:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> basss: look for the iso booting guide in the community ubuntu doc
[21:01] <uvala> OerHeks, but why were they listed when I didnt need them? specially when I just had a very strange system interruption?
[21:01] <basss> ubuntuaddicted yes
[21:01] <basss> ntzrmtthihu777 okay i'll check it now
[21:03] <ubuntuaddicted> i remember long ago, i installed with no cd or usb stick. it involves mounting the iso or something like that, was a real pain
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> basss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[21:04] <benzrf> hello! how can I check what my current sound & video drivers are?
[21:05] <ubuntuaddicted> benzrf, lspci will give you all your pci bus information
[21:05] <benzrf> thanks!
[21:05] <genii-around> ubuntuaddicted: lspci doesn't show what drivers are being used
[21:05] <ubuntuaddicted> benzrf, showing you the controllers names and from there you can sort of guess by looking at the list of modules loaded using lsmod
[21:06] <ubuntuaddicted> genii-around, i know it doesn't read my next comment
[21:06] <benzrf> hm
[21:06] <benzrf> I don't have any sound, what should I check first?
[21:06] <genii-around> benzrf: sudo lshw -C video   for instance will show you the driver in the "capabilities" line
[21:06] <joachimhs> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac Mini, as a single-boot system. I followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx But when I select the USB disk, it only leads me into grub. Where do I go from here ?
[21:06] <ubuntuaddicted> benzrf, follow what genii-around is telling you. :)
[21:06] <benzrf> ok
[21:07] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: It leads you to a grub shell rather than a grub menu?
[21:07] <tasha> Sorry if anyone answered my question I had to make dinner real quick @.@ so Im going to ask again, not to offend anyone, Does anyone know how to get Skype 4.1 working in Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit running AMD 13.4 proprietary graphics drivers?
[21:08] <benzrf> ok
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> Skype 4.1 actually recently updated tasha
[21:08] <benzrf> um
[21:08] <tasha> how recently?
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> And it works with my Nvidia proprietary drivers now
[21:08] <kairos> Pixels keep dropping and showing the default background in the middle of my screen. http://i.imgur.com/52hpHU7.jpg
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> Just yesterday!
[21:08] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Yes… But for some reason the .iso file I downloaded ends with AMD… might be the reason..
[21:08] <benzrf> when I do play <some file>, it shows the normal stuff
[21:08] <genii-around> ubuntuaddicted: For audio device, use -C multimedia
[21:08] <tasha> I think I got an update but it still crashes on launch
[21:08] <benzrf> but nothing comes out of the speakers
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> You might need to restart your PC
[21:08] <benzrf> I've used amixer set 100
[21:08] <uvala> from the description in the update manager, the antivirus update seems having to do with clam antivirus plugin, which I installed a long time ago to the mail program
[21:08] <benzrf> and amixer set on
[21:08] <benzrf> T~T
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> Every PC after a certain amount of updates needs a restartr
[21:09] <Thorby> Hi, quick question.
[21:09] <joachimhs> Its named ubuntu-12.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[21:09] <tasha> Ive rebooted several times since the update.. let me try reinstalling it
[21:09] <benzrf> wait, it's having issues with pulseaudio
[21:09] <Nothing_Much> 13.04, right tasha?
[21:09] <benzrf> yeah that's probably it
[21:09] <ubuntuaddicted> genii-around, thanks. i just forgot about lshw
[21:09] <tasha> Yes
[21:09] <Nothing_Much> Restart
[21:09] <benzrf> is there a reason why pulseaudio would be gone from my system?
[21:09] <Nothing_Much> After an update
[21:09] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: Is it a "grub> " prompt or a "rescue> " prompt?
[21:09] <benzrf> derp
[21:09] <benzrf> ok
[21:09] <tasha> Ive restarted already several times since any updates o.o
[21:09] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Its a grub> prompt
[21:10] <Nothing_Much> Pulseaudio, while required for multiple streams and overall convenience, is a bit unstable still
[21:10] <Nothing_Much> Hell, I absolutely NEEDED it, but it kept crashing TF2 everytime I used my microphone
[21:10] <kairos> Pixels keep dropping and showing the default background in the middle of my screen. http://i.imgur.com/52hpHU7.jpg Can anyone help me sort this out? They go away whenever that portion of the screne is refresh (i.e., new window, window movement, etc) but reappear again after a few seconds
[21:10] <kairos> screen* refreshed*
[21:10] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  I am wondering if this is the correct image: 64-bit Mac (AMD64) server install image
[21:10] <benzrf> ok I installed pulseaudio back, but play still isn't working
[21:11] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: It being "AMD64" is definitely not a problem, intel's 64 bit processors use the "AMD64" architecture (AMD did it first). It being the server image might be a problem.
[21:11] <tasha> I will try reinstalling and rebooting just to be sure be back in a bit
[21:11] <benzrf> I have no sound whatsoever from anything
[21:11] <Nothing_Much> Use "pulseaudio -D"
[21:11] <SanMysterious> hi, does anybody know when the 3.9 kernel will be provided via the update manager in ubuntu 13.04?
[21:11] <Nothing_Much> To start it up
[21:11] <benzrf> probably unrelated, but unity is absurdly laggy also
[21:11] <benzrf> Nothing_Much: tried pulseaudio -D. I got 'daemon startup failed'
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> kairos, Can you run lsb_release -a and post the OS?
[21:12] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ says it is "adjusted to work properly on a mac"
[21:12] <Jordan_U> SanMysterious: Probably never. Kernel versions don't generally increase within Ubuntu versions, except in LTS releases.
[21:12] <kairos> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 12.04
[21:12] <Nothing_Much> 13.10 might have it
[21:12] <Nothing_Much> benzrf, is libpulse0 installed?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> kairos, Hard to really tell much from the screenshots at least here.
[21:13] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: Yes, but I don't know if the server image is meant to be bootable via USB via this method.
[21:13] <SanMysterious> Jordan_U: but isn't canonical optimizing the kernel for 13.04: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/
[21:13] <benzrf> Nothing_Much: yes
[21:13] <benzrf> also: NOTHING is making ANY sound
[21:13] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Ah
[21:13] <kairos> wilee-nilee: The odd thing is, what's showing is Ubuntu's default background. I've never used it.
[21:13] <benzrf> could it be a hardware problem?
[21:13] <Nothing_Much> Logout and login again, if that doesn't help, do a full restart
[21:13] <benzrf> I have
[21:14] <benzrf> several times
[21:14] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  I will try the mac server image, and if that doesn't work, ill try the desktop image
[21:14] <kairos> benzrf: Is your volume muted?
[21:14] <benzrf> and again, unity is super laggy, I'd like to solve that too
[21:14] <benzrf> kairos: amixer set Master 100
[21:14] <benzrf> amixer set Master on
[21:14]  * benzrf shrugs
[21:14] <kairos> Run alsamixer, make sure nothing's muted
[21:14] <benzrf> ok
[21:15] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: The mac image won't work as it has EFI support removed, and for booting from USB you may need EFI support (depending on the exact model of mac you have).
[21:15] <benzrf> speaker was muted and I turned it on, but there's still no sound
[21:15] <simple-bed> hi
[21:15] <benzrf> trying pcm
[21:15] <Guest73051> hi
[21:15] <kairos> Hi
[21:15] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Its the latest Mac Mini
[21:15] <benzrf> nothing
[21:16] <kairos> benzrf: That's all I've got, short of a reboot, which you've said you've done
[21:16] <riddrib> how can learn me programming
[21:16] <Guest73051> any russians7
[21:16] <benzrf> is there a reason that my graphics might suddenly be slow and my sound at the same time?
[21:16] <markfknight> joachimhas:  I think the sever image requires a Unetbootin install to USB, the desktop can be installed from a Pendrive Linux
[21:16] <kairos> benzrf: Can the super user play sounds?
[21:16] <benzrf> let me try
[21:16] <benzrf> kairos: no
[21:16] <kairos> benzrf: Have you went through everything in the sound troubleshooting guide?
[21:16] <benzrf> could my motherboard have been jostled and lost the connection to the graphics and sound cards or something?!
[21:16] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: Are you really going to be using this as a server machine?
[21:16] <markfknight> joachimhas: forget that .. sorry had the same issue with dd on Mac, just used Winodws
[21:17] <benzrf> kairos: I haven't seen it, link?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> lahwran: joachimhs
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Sorry.
[21:17] <pc_magas> Hello the apps for Ubuntu phone can be written in any language I want to as long as I have Qt Frontent?
[21:17] <kairos> benzrf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[21:17] <benzrf> also, I THINK I upgraded to Raring, but it still asks me to do that when I log in...
[21:17] <benzrf> thanks kairos
[21:17] <Guest73051> who can speak at russian7
[21:17] <kairos> guest
[21:17] <kairos> Shit
[21:17] <joachimhs> Jordan_U: Its a test machine :)
[21:18] <Guest73051> what7=)
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> !ru > Guest73051
[21:18] <Pici> !ru | Guest73051
[21:18] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: For testing what?
[21:18] <dabu111> hello, i was trying to get sound on my headphones through line-in, how can do this? unmuting in alsamixer did nothing
[21:18] <Guest73051> th
[21:18] <kairos> Guest73051: Join #ubuntu-ru
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> !language > kairos
[21:18] <joachimhs> Jordan_U: Various Web applications. Its a lot easier to script-install things on a linux box than on a macosx box
[21:18] <kairos> wilee-nilee: Sorry, mate
[21:19] <stat_vi> dabu111: try alsaloop
[21:19] <zykotick9> dabu111: ahhh, line-in isn't output...
[21:20] <markfknight> joachimhs: you could setup a test server with a Virtual Box install of Ubuntu in OSX. Lets you brake it more ;)
[21:20] <joachimhs> markfknight: Yes, I know. But I really wanted to get it installed and bootable right from the machine too :)
[21:20] <dabu111> stat_vi: it says device or resource busy, even after disabling audio completely
[21:21] <kairos> benzrf: Any luck?
[21:21] <benzrf> noe
[21:21] <benzrf> *nope
[21:21] <benzrf> I'm rebooting now that I've installed pulseaudio
[21:21] <benzrf> bbiab
[21:21] <hololight> Question relating to HDMI audio: I was using ubuntu 12.10 on an acer aspire as a media pc in my living room. Was working great (hdmi from the intigrated nvidia 8200 for video and audio). I just upgraded to 13.04 (3 days ago actually) and lost my hdmi sound. The sound device still shows every where I can think to look though.... ideas?
[21:22] <kairos> Pixels keep dropping and showing the default background in the middle of my screen. http://i.imgur.com/52hpHU7.jpg Can anyone help me sort this out? They go away whenever that portion of the screen is refreshed (i.e., new window, window movement, etc) but reappear again after a few seconds
[21:23] <markfknight> joachimhs: have you tries Unetbootin? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:24] <joachimhs> markfknight:  I havent
[21:25] <benzrf> hello!
[21:25] <markfknight> joachimhs: worth a go :)
[21:25] <benzrf> I'm back and my sound is still broken!
[21:25] <xjkx> I have 3GB of memory. I want to hibernate, do I make 3GB of swap ?
[21:26] <zykotick9> xjkx: 3GB + a little.
[21:26] <xjkx> zykotick9: what if I have 1.5gb then another 1.5 gb ?
[21:26] <benzrf> unity is still amazingly laggy
[21:26] <wendico> lol, do i have to do 6gb+ a little swap if i have 6gb ram and want to hibernate?
[21:26] <benzrf> note: everything was fine until about two hours ago
[21:27] <benzrf> suddenly the machine froze, I forcibly rebooted it, and the problems were there
[21:27] <benzrf> :|
[21:27] <zykotick9> xjkx: ? no idea.  not sure it can be split-up like that, maybe?
[21:27] <kairos> benzrf: What did you install 2 hours ago
[21:27] <benzrf> nothing
[21:27] <benzrf> afaik
[21:27] <benzrf> I might have accidentally run the upgrade script but I don't think so
[21:27] <kairos> Check your logs
[21:27] <kairos> Specifically apt's logs
[21:27] <benzrf> ok
[21:27] <stat_vi> dabu111: Sry, can't help you with that one. Maybe another program is using the capture device?
[21:28] <benzrf> note that /etc/motd is still yelling at me to upgrade
[21:28] <kairos> benzrf: Upgrade then
[21:28] <benzrf> kairos: it says I already am when I try
[21:28] <kairos> well that's weird
[21:28] <kairos> I've seen that problem before, though I can't recall the solution :/
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> wendico, swap equal to ram for hibernate a slight extra swap is generally advised.
[21:29] <benzrf> my apt logs are empty except for sox formats and pulseaudio that I installed about 15 minutes ago
[21:29] <k1l> benzrf: what says "lsb_release -r"?
[21:29] <k1l> benzrf: what does "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" say? please pastebin
[21:29] <benzrf> 13.04
[21:29] <wendico> wilee-nilee: thanks
[21:30] <benzrf> have I mentioned that my graphics are all very slow
[21:30] <kairos> Yes
[21:30] <kairos> Short of hardware failure, I can't imagine a correlation between the two
[21:30] <benzrf> well, they're correlated
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> wendico, No problem. ;)
[21:30] <benzrf> they happened at the same time
[21:30] <benzrf> fine, then both are awful
[21:31] <benzrf> k1l: it's running
[21:31] <A1Recon> I made the Rhythmbox Music Player to go into Party Mode. How do I get out?
[21:31] <wendico> im checking my partitions in order to install alongside windows and i see i have a 100MB primary partition on my laptop as first partition, followed by the windows partition. why do i have this 100MB partition, is it for booting windows 8?
[21:31] <kairos> benzrf: You told me you had upgraded lol
[21:31] <benzrf> no
[21:31] <stat_vi> dabu111: #alsa might be able to help
[21:31] <benzrf> I said I might have
[21:31] <benzrf> I don't know how it got to raring myself
[21:31] <kairos> benzrf: You're right. What you said was it says you are updated when you try to upgrade again
[21:32] <kairos> Apparently you didn't run update
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> wendico, It is the boot partition you probably have a uefi setup be careful and be fully backed up.
[21:32] <kairos> Hopefully this will solve it
[21:32] <benzrf> I started the script but ctrl-c'd when it told me I'd have to reboot
[21:32] <benzrf> can't think of any other instance
[21:32] <hachre> When I log into to Ubuntu my 'gnome-keyring-daemon' is hanging with 100% cpu, when I kill it and manually unlock the Login chain via 'Passwords & Keys' it works... Any way to fix this without deleting the entire keychain and losing all passwords inside?
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> !uefi } wendico
[21:32] <kairos> What does your script include?
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | wendico
[21:32] <kairos> Is it just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[21:32] <benzrf> no, the official one
[21:32] <benzrf> the one mentioned in /etc/motd
[21:33] <Kamen> Hey anyone can help me? i have a DHCP server with a router DHCP
[21:33] <benzrf> do-release-upgrade
[21:33] <kairos> Ah
[21:33] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I did it. Ubuntu is running!! Thanks for your help
[21:33] <k1l> benzrf: show the output
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[21:33] <benzrf> it's still running
[21:33] <benzrf> >_>
[21:33] <k1l> benzrf: and abborting a do-release-upgrade is just "not so clever"
[21:33] <benzrf> no
[21:33] <benzrf> I did it before it started
[21:33] <benzrf> afaik
[21:34] <Kamen> I need help anyone?
[21:34] <benzrf> yeah Kamen?
[21:34] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I set the rhythmbox music player into party mode .... how do I set it to its normal mode
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> !help > Kamen
[21:34] <benzrf> eh heh
[21:35] <benzrf> where does Adjective Animal come from?
[21:35] <Kamen> ok i see it :D tnx ubottu
[21:35] <kairos> Kamen: Ubottu's a bot
[21:35] <benzrf> uBOTtu
[21:35] <wendico> im reading uefi
[21:36] <benzrf> what do
[21:36] <johnjohn101> so glad i'm running ubuntu. it's the best
[21:36] <benzrf> I think it's froze
[21:36] <kairos> benzrf: Unlikely
[21:36] <benzrf> it's just sitting at 'reading package lists... done'
[21:36] <A1Recon> I set the rhythmbox music player to party mode.....how do I bring it back to normal....
[21:36] <A1Recon> ???
[21:36] <johnjohn101> do most ppa's do their own compiles and then package with checkinstall?
[21:37] <Dr_willis> You really DONT want to use checkinstall for packages you will be disrtibuting
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, never seen a chk install from a ppa
[21:37] <k1l> benzrf: wait
[21:37] <benzrf> :C
[21:37] <kairos> benzrf: Leave it be
[21:37] <benzrf> foo
[21:37] <kairos> benzrf: It'll either error out or finish
[21:37] <Dr_willis> !checkinstall
[21:37] <benzrf> aww
[21:38] <Aww> benzrf, you say 'aww' more then anyone else on the network :P
[21:38] <benzrf> it's your fault for picking such a pingable name
[21:38] <benzrf> good lord
[21:38] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: is this the best way to create a package? or are there other techniques?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Not sure with rhythmbox I never use it.
[21:38] <kairos> Aww: Have you stopped the email notifications yet? XD
[21:38] <benzrf> it's like setting your nick to 'return' on a programming channel
[21:38] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  ive rarely needed to make a package. If you want people to use what you are building, then you really should be using the PPA system
[21:38] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee K
[21:38] <Aww> kairos, I turn it off when I'm here :P
[21:39] <benzrf> it's still sitting...
[21:39] <johnjohn101> i'm starting to see flaws in the package and ppa system.
[21:39] <benzrf> ;~;
[21:39] <benzrf> oh wait
[21:39] <Aww> benzrf, I picked this nick to get pinged an insane amount of times :)
[21:39] <benzrf> it was done all along
[21:39] <kairos> This oughta be good. johnjohn101 What's that?
[21:39] <benzrf> and the prompt wasn't showing
[21:39] <k1l> benzrf: show some patience
[21:39]  * benzrf flips a table or two
[21:39] <kairos> benzrf: ...
[21:39] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <kairos> You scrolled up, benzrf ? :P
[21:40] <benzrf> no
[21:40] <benzrf> oh I see the issue
[21:40] <wendico> uff this uefi mode looks complicated, if i have my windows 8 cd and my ubuntu cd, may i just erase all the partitions and install both windows and ubuntu in non uefi mode? or that uefi mode is a must for my laptop?
[21:40] <benzrf> I piped it into a file, but stderr (I assume) was showing up
[21:40] <benzrf> so the prompt was there all along but it got overwritten by the output
[21:40] <k1l> !enter | benzrf
[21:40] <benzrf> D:<
[21:40] <Guest38880> Any ideas or updates, on the problem of having slow nautilus when home partition has >6000 Files? I did fresh install twice and repartitioned my system once and still the problem appears when I have over 6000 files.
[21:40] <benzrf> see yall later, restarting
[21:41] <johnjohn101> kairos: my example is curl.  there is an older version in 12.04 with a bug that keeps me from using it.  it works in 13.04 but i can't use the 13.04 debs because of all the dependencies. However when i compile the code from source, it works, so obviously there is a dependecy in the 13.04 package that is not needed
[21:41] <Guest38880> s
[21:41] <zianya> guys my ubuntu is not booting, but it says is installed, any idea_
[21:41] <Dr_willis> when you compile its using the older libs. the dependency would be the libs it was compiled against
[21:41] <zianya> here is a sreenshoot gparted> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/201305032138191280x800s.png/
[21:41] <zianya> does any thing looks wrong?
[21:42] <zianya> I just did a default ubuntu setup
[21:42] <zianya> 13.04
[21:42] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: yes, it compiled against all of the older libs
[21:42] <zianya> but my laptop when boot says no operative system found
[21:43] <richardraseley> Can someone tell me where the vmlinuz-3.8.x-x-generic and initrd.img-3.8.x-x-generic files are located in raring? They used to be in /boot to the best of my recollection but I am not seeing them...
[21:43] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: 13.04 said is needed a newer version of the clib package (i'm guessing the package name as it's been a month) but when i compiled it didn't
[21:43] <Guest38880> zianya: Boot partition FAT32?
[21:44] <Guest38880> zianya: Try giving boot flag to ext4 partition, it should contain the boot manager if you installed default install
[21:44] <zianya> Guest38880: that-s what linux did, is it wrong?
[21:44] <zianya> what about that fat32 partition Guest38880
[21:45] <Dr_willis> I thought a UEFI setup had a fat32 partition ?
[21:45] <Guest38880> zianya: I don't think the default install creates a boot partition, it's all in one partition which shouldn't be fat32, it should be either ext2 or ext4
[21:45] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: Maybe newer hardware
[21:45] <benzrf> sup fellows
[21:45] <zianya> done Guest38880 let me reboot, thanks
[21:45] <Guest38880> zianya: I migh be wrong though, please check with Dr_willis
[21:45] <benzrf> graphics still shit, audio still missing
[21:45] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: does that make sense?
[21:45] <benzrf> ;~;
[21:45] <k1l> !enter | benzrf
[21:45] <zianya> I will reboot and check Guest38880
[21:46] <bazhang> benzrf, no cursing here
[21:46] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  makes sence to me that it works that way.. if it was compiled with newer libs.. it would depend on those libs..
[21:46] <kshenoy> Has anyone tried compiling vim on Ubuntu 13.04? It fails to recognize a GUI
[21:46] <k1l> benzrf: whats with the output?
[21:46] <benzrf> alright
[21:46] <benzrf> one sec
[21:46] <benzrf> err wait
[21:46] <markfknight> joachimhs: did you have any luck?
[21:46] <benzrf> it
[21:46] <benzrf> um
[21:46] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <Guest38880> zianya: Let me know the updates.
[21:46] <bazhang> benzrf, stop with the enter key
[21:46] <benzrf> never mind, it didn't actually update, forget it. I'll get back to you... >_>
[21:46] <joachimhs> markfknight: Not yet :/
[21:47] <joachimhs> I'm trying rEFIt
[21:47] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: i understand. I really don't like using 3rd party repos.  so i guess i am looking to compile on my own and build my own .debs
[21:47] <amarcolino> I have a web directory folder which is set up as www-data:user however I would like that when I transfer or download a file or folder into it sets ownership to www-data:user instead of user:www-data, is this possible?
[21:47] <k1l> benzrf: dont spoil the help of volunteers. stick to the rules. dont spam with enter
[21:48] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: do you have lots of files in your home partition?
[21:49] <Dr_willis> Guest38880,  my /home/ is on its own 3TB hard drive.. :) so thats a yes.
[21:49] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: thanks for listening.
[21:49] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: And you are on version 13.04?
[21:49] <Dr_willis> Guest38880, yes.
[21:50] <Hitiek> my /boot is full. I'm trying to apt-get remove some of the old linux-image-* packages, but I can't because apt-get complains with "linux-image-server : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic but it is not going to be installed". Anyone have a suggestion how I get around this?
[21:50] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: And you never noticed any lag while opening nautilus? Touch wood if yes
[21:50] <zianya> Guest38880: did not work
[21:50] <zianya> ><
[21:50] <Dr_willis> Guest38880,  never had any issues with nautiuls.. if its thumbnailing 10000000+ image files.. it would make sencce it would take longer to load then if it was not.
[21:50] <zianya> do I need to remove that fat32 partition? I removed the boot flag though
[21:51] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: 7200 rpm hdd?
[21:51] <Guest38880> zianya: No, don't remove it. It might be necessary for newer hardware if your laptop is new?
[21:52] <Noggo> hello
[21:52] <Guest38880> zianya: Let me try to check, hold on for a minute.
[21:52] <Dr_willis> Guest38880, No idea. I imagine so.
[21:53] <Noggo> is it posible to hide the icon for mounted drives in the launcher under ubuntu 13.04 with unity
[21:53] <Dr_willis> Noggo,  i belive theres a setting to show/hide mounted/unmounted drives. askubuntu.com should mention the methods
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Noggo  use gnome-tweak-tool or unity-tweak-tool
[21:53] <derp> sup fools
[21:55] <k1l> !guidelines > derp
[21:55] <speed82> porno
[21:55] <derp> k1l: okay!
[21:55] <derp> speed82: rule 34.
[21:55] <richardraseley> I am using this (http://randomtutor.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html) site to install Ubuntu 13.04 on my Macbook Pro (15" with Retina Display). As part of the process it tells me to copy both the kernel and RAM disk image files from /boot to be used in the configuration of the boot manager, however I am not seeing anything matching (or close to) the naming convention they provide (vmlinuz-3.8.0-6-gen
[21:56] <richardraseley> in this folder. Any suggestions on where else to look?
[21:56] <bekks> Using grub2 on 12.04, how can I set a specific kernel to be booted at next reboot?
[21:56] <devtekbeta> i want to format my usb stick containing the ubuntu-live-iso, i want to make sure i am formatting the right drive in Gparted.. it looks like the right size, it s called linux-swap(filesystem) -is this what the live-iso would have as filesystem
[21:57] <speed82> porno film
[21:58] <Mikeasaurus> off topic but whats the difference between a switch and router?
[21:58] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry   bekks
[21:58] <bazhang> Mikeasaurus, try ##hardware
[21:58] <bekks> bazhang: Thanks
[21:58] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[21:58] <Mikeasaurus> #hardware
[21:58] <k1l> Mikeasaurus: or the #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:59] <richardraseley> I found the answer to my own question. I was accidentally looking at the /boot folder on the live USB stick and not on the actual hard disk I installed to. =X Thanks anyways!
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Mikeasaurus  a switch connects cables, a router connects IP addresses
[21:59] <Noggo> Dr_willis at askubuntu.com is a tutorial but it is for ubuntu 11.10 - 12.04
[21:59] <Noggo> MonkeyDust these both tools have no option on ubuntu 13.04 to hide the icon in the launcher
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Why is [ gksudo ] not included in Ubuntu 13.04, and what are we supposed to use going forward for graphical superuser permissions?
[22:00] <netlar1> hi
[22:00] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  i thought gksu was removed. but gksudo was still there.
[22:00] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6634/psa-gksu-is-no-longer-installed-by-default?cb=1
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> SonikkuAmerica  what makes you think it's no longer there?
[22:00] <bazhang> SonikkuAmerica, sudo -i
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: When I ran [ gksudo ] it told me to install gksu to use it.
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> MonkeyDust, bazhang : see above
[22:01] <bazhang> SonikkuAmerica, I did
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> SonikkuAmerica  sudo -i and then sudo apt-get install gksudo
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> OK...
[22:02] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, gksu
[22:02] <Dr_willis> from what i 'read' you should rarely have needed or used 'gksu'
[22:04] <bazhang> !find gksudo
[22:04] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, ^
[22:04] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04     "please always use gksudo instead of gksu. – Paddy Landau Apr 30 at 10:07"
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: The 2 are not independent of each other... yet.
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> bazhang  ok, learned something new, thanks
[22:04] <A1Recon> Using Thunderbird on Ubuntu. I love this OS!! Adios Win7!
[22:05] <bazhang> so install gksu
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> I thought running GUI apps with sudo is dangerous?
[22:05] <k1l> ubuntuaddicted: it is
[22:05] <Dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted,  use 'gksudo' to run gui apps.
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> oh i see, it's suggested to tell users to sudo -i first
[22:05] <subsilico> use sudo
[22:06] <ubuntuaddicted> Dr_willis, oh, i guess I always thought gksu and gksudo were the same. LOL disregard me guys.
[22:06] <bazhang> yeah thats not confusing
[22:06] <Dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted,  they are NOT the 'same' there are minor differances
[22:06] <subsilico> both are totally unneeded
[22:07] <ubuntuaddicted> sudo -i remains a safe solution on all currently supported versions of Ubuntu
[22:07] <zykotick9> subsilico: you're wrong.  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details.
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Even I know the difference with and without the "gk"
[22:07] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, i issue gksudo gedit /foo all the time personally.
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> ubuntuaddicted  you're a non-geek
[22:08] <subsilico> what!? who is running firefox as root?
[22:08] <ubuntuaddicted> MonkeyDust, not sure where you're getting your information, cause it's wrog
[22:08] <subsilico> thats serious branindamage
[22:08] <ubuntuaddicted> MonkeyDust, wrong
[22:09] <ubuntuaddicted> Dr_willis, i've always known to run gui apps with gksudo, back to dapper days
[22:11] <subsilico> i guess my theory is never run gui apps as root
[22:11] <Dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted,  thats how id o it also.
[22:11] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, correct
[22:11] <subsilico> i can't hardly imagine using a gui editor to mode system files
[22:12] <subsilico> mode/mod
[22:12] <subsilico> if you don't know how to vi them you shouldn't be editing them
[22:12] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, everyone has their preferences
[22:12] <bammm> why do many experienced linux users use Ubuntu?
[22:13] <k1l> bammm: because it offers alot of service.
[22:13] <benzrfisafk> bammm: because it's easy to use and doesn't fight you
[22:13] <ubuntuaddicted> bammm, community support, ease of use, that's what I can think of
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> bammm  and because ubuntu has a nice offtopic channel
[22:13] <Belial> experienced linux users who don't have time  to spend days configuring their system for use.
[22:13] <Dr_willis> Girls dig guys that use Ubuntu.
[22:14] <subsilico> better package management than the redhat clones
[22:14] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, that's silly to say.
[22:14] <subsilico> oh really?
[22:14] <bazhang> !ot
[22:14] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, just because I user doesn't know vi then they shouldn't be editing config files? that's just silly IMO
[22:14] <Hitiek> my /boot is full. I'm trying to apt-get remove some of the old linux-image-* packages, but I can't because apt-get complains with "linux-image-server : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic but it is not going to be installed". Anyone have a suggestion how I get around this?
[22:14] <bazhang> take the editor wars elsewhere please
[22:14] <netlar> cool
[22:15] <amarcolino> I have a web directory folder which is set up as www-data:user however I would like that when I transfer or download a file or folder into it, it doesnt set the ownership to user:www-data but instead to www-data:user, how can I do this?
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Hitiek  12.04 server?
[22:15] <subsilico> ubuntuaddicted: you sounds like someone who doesn't know vi. ;>
[22:15] <bazhang> subsilico, thats enough
[22:15] <subsilico> i kid i kid
[22:15] <Hitiek> MonkeyDust: yes
[22:15] <bammm> Belial: I'm assuming you mean initially configure
[22:15] <ubuntuaddicted> i prefer nano
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Hitiek  try #ubuntu-server
[22:16] <benzrfisafk> ubuntuaddicted: WAT
[22:16] <benzrfisafk> who uses nano I mean really
[22:16] <subsilico> i guess nano is a thing
[22:16] <Belial> bammm, right.
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> is it possible to tell using Ubuntu Software Center where something is from?  I.E. from the main repos, or the partner repos, or third-party stuff?
[22:16] <subsilico> i prefer artichoke hearts on my pizza
[22:16] <Hitiek> MonkeyDust: ok, will do. thanks
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, i think apt-cache show may show you that
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntuaddicted:  that's insufficient, because i don't know the package name
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntuaddicted:  (otherwise, I know apt-cache can show me that)
[22:17] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, apt-cache search guessthename
[22:17] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, i like aptitude more then apt-get or apt-cache though
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> right, i'll take my question to be answered  as "no, there's no way".
[22:19] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, oh sorry, didn't see the bit about the USC
[22:21] <Belial> anyone using the patched nautilus 3.4.2 for  13.04 able to get some quick lists going in unity?
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntuaddicted:  yeah, i know apt-cache and apt-get like the back of my hand, the quesiton was about USC because reasons.
[22:22] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntuaddicted:  i ask because USC shows some things *not* in the default repos, so...
[22:22] <madprops> what tool can I use to tweak my multiple monitors?
[22:23] <JayF> On Ubuntu 10.04LTS, if I build a custom kernel module, is there a place that extra modules should go to make sure they load properly?
[22:23] <madprops> I have an intel card
[22:23] <zianya> Dr_willis: hi, did you read my problem? 20m ago?
[22:23] <Dr_willis> zianya,  not really. Im gettint ready to go to work
[22:24] <ctxmen> alphaschwein
[22:24] <Sandy_> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu for the first time ever today. In fact, it's my first contact with any Linux distribution ever. So, naturally I'm stuck. I've installed Ubuntu on a server and after installation & reboot, I get "Input Not Supported." I have attempted to edit a GRUB line to make the default resolution 640*480 after making my way to a shell prompt, as directed by various forums,...
[22:24] <Sandy_> ...only to get an error that the file is read only.  TLDR - I installed Ubuntu and can't do jack because when it boots it says "Input not supported"
[22:26] <Dr_willis> Sandy_,  what kind of 'on a server' do you mean?  Are you saying the Monitor is saying it cant find a resolution to display? You did a server install?
[22:26] <Dr_willis> Sandy_,  there is 'text' option that might also get things going
[22:26] <Sandy_> When I say 'server' I'm referring to the physical server.
[22:26] <compex> what's a good command line music player?
[22:26] <Sandy_> The monitor does display a message that says "Input not supported"
[22:27] <Sandy_> I did do a server install, I selected the LAMP package
[22:27] <Sandy_> How would I access the text option?
[22:27] <Dr_willis> Sandy_,  i would try the nomodeset, and text options
[22:27] <Dr_willis> !text
[22:28] <Dr_willis> change the line in the grub menu (if you can ) to be 'noquiet nosplash text nomodeset'  (thats about all the options i can think of that SHOULD kick it into failsafe text mode)
[22:28] <Sandy_> ok - trying this now
[22:28] <Dr_willis> Sandy_,  you do have some linux experience? im not sure why you are starging with a server install if you dont have some earlier experience
[22:29] <Sandy_> which grub is included in 13.04 server?
[22:29] <Sandy_> grub2?
[22:29] <Dr_willis> grub2 has been the default for a few years now
[22:29] <john__> having trouble getting mythtv started get channel locked signal
[22:29] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-mythtv john__
[22:30] <Navion> Are there any Ubuntu distros for PowerMac that support the embedded audio?
[22:30] <zykotick9> john__: verify you storage directory has Read/Write for other - i had the issue last night ;)
[22:30] <Sandy_> hmmm, pressed shift repeatedly during boot and "Input Not Supported" still came up
[22:31] <Dr_willis> press and HOLD shift. but if grub is unable to  display a proper res. then you wont see grub. There are grub options in its configs to show a 'fail safe text' menuy
[22:31] <Dr_willis> but you might need to use a live cd to get into the sytem and set those options for grub
[22:31] <Dr_willis> or track down a differnt monitor for now and se eif it works with a newer one.
[22:31] <Sandy_> The ony way I can get to anything that allows me to interact with the system is by pressing up/down arrow keys repeatedly with a mash on the enter key sprinkled in there
[22:31] <Sandy_> ok, trying the press & hold
[22:32] <Sandy_> already tried other monitors
[22:32] <marti1125> hi
[22:32] <Dr_willis> if you can get into a console. you can try to set grub t use the  old fashioned text menu mode
[22:32] <marti1125> i would like to install ubuntu  in a laptop  but the windows doesn't detected...
[22:33] <Jordan_U> marti1125: Can you run "sudo parted -l" and pastebin the output?
[22:34] <Dr_willis> Sandy_,  in /etc/default/grub theres a line that says ->  #unvomment to disable graphical terminal.
[22:34] <Dr_willis> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[22:34] <Dr_willis> remove that # on the GRUB_TERMINAL line and rerun update-grub and it should use the old text menu modes
[22:35] <marti1125> ok :D
[22:35] <benzrf> all of my packages are up to date, but I still have no sound... my graphical lag is gone though. on the topic of graphics, ctrl-alt-arrows no longer switches workspaces. how can I enable that?
[22:35] <Dr_willis> but you Might need to chroot in/follow the fix grub guides to fix that.
[22:36] <Dr_willis> Sandy_,  if you can get the system to a console. i would suggest installing ssh (if its not allready installed) that way even if the monitor is messed up . you can ssh in and try to fix things
[22:38] <Sandy_> I am in some sort of console
[22:38] <Sandy_> Im in the proper directory
[22:38] <Sandy_>  - /etc/default
[22:39] <Sandy_> so to edit grub, what should I type?
[22:39] <marti1125> uhmm doesn't work.. :(
[22:40] <marti1125> is in livecd
[22:41] <Dr_willis> bbl
[22:45] <Sandy_> ok, so I removed the # from the 640*480 forced graphics mode line which I believe uncomments the setting. Waiting to see if it works
[22:45] <Sandy_> didn't
[22:45] <benzrf> all of my packages are up to date, but I still have no sound... my graphical lag is gone though. on the topic of graphics, ctrl-alt-arrows no longer switches workspaces. how can I enable that?
[22:45] <Sandy_> how do I install ssh?
[22:45] <benzrf> Sandy_: is it not already installed/
[22:46] <zykotick9> Sandy_: "sudo apt-get install ssh" will install both client and server.
[22:47] <Sandy_> ok, trying that
[22:47] <Sandy_> I installed ubuntu 13.04 server w/ LAMP package - if it's in there, then yes. If it's not default, then no
[22:49] <zianya> pls help, I have reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times now
[22:49] <zianya> But my machine still says no operative system found
[22:49] <zianya> and does not boot
[22:50] <zianya> here is a gparted screenshoot, whats wrong? pls http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/201305032248481280x800s.png/
[22:50] <Sandy_> zianya - that usually means a master boot record problem
[22:50] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | zianya
[22:51] <zianya> Sandy_: so the iso is wrong?
[22:51] <Sandy_> oh, so you wrote ISO directly to the hard drive?
[22:52] <Sandy_> or extracted it to the hard drive, rather
[22:52] <zipace> that'd be a first one that someone actually tries to flash the disk with the contents of an iso image, haha
[22:52] <bazhang> zianya, how did you write to the media?
[22:53] <zianya> bazhang: I used a usb
[22:53] <zianya> Sandy_:  bazhang  Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/ACE0kdcN
[22:53] <bazhang> zianya, yes thats the media
[22:53] <zianya> I used a usb to install it, indeed i-m using the usb right now in live cd
[22:53] <bazhang> zianya, did you just drag and drop?
[22:54] <zianya> bazhang: used a software to put it in the usb
[22:54] <bazhang> zianya, what software, and did you md5 the iso before
[22:55] <zianya> I have tried ubuntu lubuntu isos 13.04 and 12.10, and I used unetbootin and other software a guys recommended me
[22:55] <zianya> called universal usb installer or something like that
[22:55] <zianya> I am using it right now in live cd
[22:55] <bazhang> zianya, md5 iso? yes or no
[22:55] <zianya> no idea whats that
[22:55] <bazhang> !md5 | zianya
[22:55] <zianya> but I think has something to do to verify the iso
[22:55] <zianya> yeah, I have tried a lot of isos dont think thats the problem
[22:56] <zipace> if liveCD works, then it's relatively safe to assume that the USB stick has been flashed correctly bazhang
[22:56] <zianya> any way I could verify if you want
[22:56] <zianya> zipace: exactly
[22:56] <zipace> zianya: where did you download the iso?
[22:56] <zianya> ubuntu.com
[22:56] <zianya> ubuntu.net
[22:56] <zianya> all official
[22:56] <zipace> which one?
[22:56] <zipace> well fair enough
[22:56] <zianya> I have tried both
[22:56] <zianya>  => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.
[22:56] <zianya> that appears on the scan
[22:56] <zipace> zianya: /dev/sdb is a USB device, it would be odd if it would have a MBR
[22:57] <zianya> oh, ok, good
[22:57] <Sandy_> zianya - disclaimer - I'm a Linux beginner here for support myself, but a "no os found" message usually indicates the computer found no info in the master boot record, meaning that whatever you did to put an OS on the disk, it didn't write a "MBR" as part of that process
[22:57] <zianya> so whats wrong?
[22:57] <zipace> zianya: how exactly did you install ubuntu?
[22:57] <zykotick9> zipace: assuming /dev/sdb is a USB is a dangerous assumption, my sdb is a SATA HD...
[22:57] <zianya> zipace: with the icon install ubuntu
[22:57] <zianya> and click, yes yes yes next next next
[22:58] <zianya> used the option erase all the disk and install ubuntu
[22:58] <zianya> uhm
[22:58] <zipace> zykotick9: if your HD is external then it's perfectly normal that it is listed as /dev/sdb (think of sdb as "external device", in contrast to an "internal device", ie, internal harddrive)
[22:58] <zianya>  no /sda/ is m usb
[22:58] <zianya> so sdb is my hard drive
[22:58] <zykotick9> zipace: you're wrong in your understanding...
[22:59] <zianya> you guys saw the screenshoot?
[22:59] <zianya> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/201305032248481280x800s.png/
[22:59] <zipace> zykotick9: i might be, hardware isn't my field of knowledge ;-)
[23:00] <Sandy_> zykotick9 - I installed ssh using the sudo apt-get command. Now, how would I go about accessing this system remotely? (that is what SSH is for, right?)
[23:00] <zipace> zianya: i need to correct myself, /dev/sdb seems to be your harddrive, not your USB device
[23:00] <zianya> exactly zipace
[23:00] <zianya> No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
[23:00] <zipace> zianya: that is to say, your HD seems completely empty
[23:00] <zianya> so that-s why i thought that was wrong, but why is ubuntu not installing the mbr
[23:01] <zipace> zianya: again, how did you install ubuntu?
[23:01] <zianya> says used 6.84GB
[23:01] <zianya> zipace: scroll up, I just told you
[23:01] <zipace> doesn't lubuntu ship ubiquity? ubiquity is the interactive installer
[23:01] <observ3r> hi
[23:01] <zipace> zianya: my apologies, i didn't notice it
[23:01] <zianya> I put the ubuntu in the usb, launched the live cd, click on the icon INSTALL ubuntu and click NEXT on every step, used the format all the disk and install ubuntu option
[23:01] <zianya> is ok
[23:02] <zianya> the problem is ubuntu is not writing the mbr, but why
[23:02] <zipace> good question
[23:02] <zianya> and why sdb1 is fat32 and the flag is boot
[23:02] <zianya> that-s not normal?
[23:03] <zipace> zianya: it's definitely not normal that sdb1 is fat32
[23:03] <zipace> it should be ext3 or ext4
[23:03] <Sandy_> I edited grub - I understand that I should now run "update-grub" to have that change take effect. When I type that from host@user it says "grub-mkconfig: You must run this as root"
[23:03] <Sandy_> How to I become root?
[23:03] <zipace> sandeepr: sudo update-grub
[23:04] <Sandy_> ah
[23:04] <zianya> zipace:  so why the hell is doing it??!?!!?
[23:04] <zipace> sorry, Sandy_
[23:04] <Sandy_> lol np
[23:04] <Sandy_> I know a sandeep
[23:04] <zipace> Sandy_: "sudo" temporarily elevates you into root status
[23:04] <zipace> zianya: beats me tbh
[23:04] <zianya> sorry?
[23:05] <zipace> zianya: i said i don't know
[23:05] <zianya> oh
[23:05] <zianya> what can I do?
[23:05] <zipace> zianya: you could try formatting the disk as ext4, and hope for the best
[23:05] <zipace> frankly, i'm puzzled myself here
[23:06] <zianya> zipace: that will simply remove the mbr
[23:06] <zianya> if it was writen as fat32
[23:06] <zipace> zianya: that, and potentially fix disk errors (if there are any)
[23:06] <Sandy_> what tool did you use to make your flash/usb drive bootable?
[23:06] <Sandy_> and did you boot to your usb drive?
[23:06] <zianya> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[23:07] <zipace> pendrivelinux's universal USB installer is not the source of the problem, i used that one myself successfully many times
[23:08] <Sandy_> zianya - you did boot to the usb drive?
[23:08] <zianya> of course, how else I am in the live cd?
[23:08] <zianya> I removed  that shitty fat32 partition, I think the usb software created it
[23:08] <zianya> I will reboot and try
[23:08] <Sandy_> zianya - sorry, beginner here, don't know what livecd is
[23:09] <zianya> and moved the ext4 as boot
[23:09] <zipace> Sandy_: liveCD is essentially the operating system running from RAM
[23:09] <zianya> lets see
[23:09] <zianya> whish me luck
[23:09] <zipace> !livecd | Sandy_
[23:10] <zipace> zianya: i'll keep my fingers crossed
[23:10] <Sandy_> ah I see thanks
[23:11] <wad> I installed mysql on my laptop, because sometimes I need it. But it's always running. It starts the service by default. I generally turn it off manually (sudo service mysql stop) whenever I boot. Is there a way I can have this service be OFF by default, and require me to start it?
[23:12] <Sandy_> ok, uncommenting the line in grub that allows the system to use 640*480 graphics seems to have done the trick - I am now in a very low-res GNU GRUB menu
[23:12] <marti1125> ok the problem is eufi
[23:12] <zipace> wad: since mysql is a server application, it needs to run in the background to function, so your best bet is to include "service mysql stop" in /etc/profile
[23:12] <zianya_> same
[23:12] <zianya_> did not work
[23:12] <wad> zipace, okay, that sounds good.
[23:13] <zianya_> no operative system
[23:13] <zipace> zianya: very curious
[23:13] <zipace> zianya: you could try formatting your HD as ext4 nonetheless
[23:14] <zipace> :o
[23:14] <harrism> can you help me i need to turn off powersaving
[23:14] <zipace> harrism: for your netbook/notebook?
[23:14] <Sandy_> when I select "Ubuntu" from that menu, I get to a command prompt - how should I install video drivers & access the Ubuntu GUI?
[23:14] <zianya_> zipace: and then?
[23:15] <zipace> zianya_: it might detect and fix disk errors, if there are any. by default the ubuntu installer will format the disk anyway, but maybe something is up with your HD
[23:16] <whjms>  
[23:17] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I list all files and folders, and the files and folders inside those folders?
[23:18] <zipace> harrism: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/jupiter-ubuntu-ppa-hardware-and-power.html
[23:18] <Jordan_U> DarkAceLaptop: find /path/to/directory/
[23:18] <Slart> Hello, I'm looking for a simple, lightweight webserver preferably something I can just run from a terminal and it will serve up the files from the current working directory.. I was thinking of doing some web development stuff with jquery and such.. any recommendations? I don't want to move files to some special web-folder like I would have to for apache
[23:18] <DarkAceLaptop> cool
[23:18] <Jordan_U> DarkAceLaptop: Though if you're trying to script something you'll want to know more than that. What is your end goal?
[23:18] <zipace> DarkAceLaptop: "sudo apt-get install tree", ad then "tree -C <directory>"
[23:19] <zianya_> zipace: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/201305032317461280x800s.png/
[23:19] <zianya_> done, now?
[23:19] <derp> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[23:19] <DarkAceLaptop> I just want to pastebin all the files in my music folder
[23:19] <zipace> zianya_: try installing ubuntu again
[23:19] <th0r> DarkAceLaptop: try 'ls -alR' and see if that does it
[23:20] <zianya_> zipace: with erase disk?
[23:20] <zipace> zianya_: yes
[23:20] <Jordan_U> zianya_: Is this machine configured to boot the hard drive via UEFI or BIOS?
[23:20] <zianya_> bios I guess
[23:21] <zianya_> it is installing
[23:21] <wad> zipace, that doesn't work very well. -_-
[23:21] <zipace> zianya_: did your machine come with windows 8 preinstalled? because in that case, UEFI might be a problem (as Jordan_U said)
[23:21] <Jordan_U> zianya_: If that's the case, then that's the problem. It's booting the Ubuntu installer via UEFI, and thus the installer is configuring the installation to be booted via UEFI.
[23:21] <zianya_> it just created the fat32 partitoin AGAIN
[23:21] <zipace> wad: why not? is mysql still running?
[23:21] <zianya_> zipace: no, vista
[23:22] <wad> zipace, it turns it off. But that /etc/profile is kicked off all the time.
[23:22] <zianya_> Jordan_U: how do I change that_
[23:22] <wad> When a do "sudo -i" for example.
[23:22] <zianya_> or what should I do
[23:23] <wad> zipace: So I get error complaints in bash.
[23:23] <zipace> wad: why do you actually want to stop mysql from being autorun anyway? i'm just being curious, because the mysql server only uses very little resources
[23:23] <wad> I could wrap in an environment variable...
[23:23] <wad> zipace, I've only got 8GB of RAM, and I'm always running out.
[23:23] <wad> So I'm trying to shave off all the resources I can.
[23:23] <zipace> wad: "only" 8GB ram? :-P
[23:24] <zipace> I got 8GB ram, and never had any problems with mysql, or any database server for that matter
[23:24] <zianya_> zipace: installed
[23:24] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkAceLaptop, ls -R /full/path > directory_structure.txt
[23:24] <zianya_> same partitions names, data, flags, all the same
[23:24] <DarkAceLaptop> \o/
[23:24] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkAceLaptop, then you can use pastebinit to upload it straight to pastebin
[23:24] <zipace> wad: are you sure it's not a different program that is hogging all the resources
[23:24] <wad> zipace, I often run three or four instances of two different IDEs. And two virtual machines, one of which runs Oracle. When I run a build, I have to exit a bunch of stuff.
[23:25] <zipace> wad: fair enough, but even in those cases, mysql is quite unlikely to cause performance problems, especially when unused (ie, not active transactions)
[23:25] <zipace> s/not/no/
[23:25] <wad> zipace, yes, it's not mysql that is the hog. It's all the other crap that I have to run. Since I don't always need mysql around, I'm just wondering how to tell the system not to launch it by default on boot.
[23:26] <wad> My laptop is very heavily used.
[23:27] <zipace> wad: well, alright. run 'sudo -c "echo manual >> /etc/init/mysql.override"'
[23:27] <wad> Ah!!
[23:27] <hexacode> hey wad
[23:27] <hexacode> do u use vim
[23:27]  * wad edits mysql.override
[23:28] <wad> Yeah, I'm a vim fan.
[23:28] <hexacode> sudo ls -laR /etc/rc* | vim -
[23:28] <syf> 每次打开无线连接都要输密码，有没有解决办法
[23:28] <hexacode> then do a search on your startup  job
[23:28] <hexacode> in my case it was httpd
[23:28] <hexacode> or apache2
[23:28] <hexacode> i saw which folder it was in
[23:28] <hexacode> and screwed up the permissions
[23:28] <hexacode> i dont think it started then
[23:29] <zianya_> zipace: so_
[23:29] <zipace> !cn | syf
[23:29] <zipace> zianya_: still no luck? :-(
[23:30] <derp> איך אני יכול לקבל עזרה לאובונטו?
[23:30] <zianya_> zipace: well I did what you told me
[23:31] <zianya_> ubuntu created a fat32 partition again as boot
[23:31] <ThePendulum> I am using BURG, and I was wondering if I can still boot into recovery mode if I remove it from the selection list
[23:31] <OerHeks> !hebrew | derp
[23:32] <ThePendulum> Didn't expect there to be a Hebrew channel
[23:32] <zipace> zianya_: that is majorly weird
[23:32] <zipace> zianya_: consider me clueless
[23:32] <zianya_> zipace: check your partitions
[23:32] <zianya_> dont you have any fat32_
[23:33] <zianya_> are you sure?
[23:33] <zipace> zianya_: my partitions are ext4 for ubuntu, and ntfs for windows
[23:33] <zipace> as expected
[23:33] <OerHeks> ThePendulum, as of 10.04 there are 218 languages supported.
[23:33] <zianya_> so wtf?!
[23:33] <zianya_> the linux iso is just wrong
[23:33] <zipace> zianya_: i wouldn't blame the iso
[23:33] <ThePendulum> OerHeks: Kudos!
[23:33] <zipace> zianya_: what harddrive are you using?
[23:34] <zianya_> zipace: I installed windows and works fine
[23:34] <zianya_> so is not the hard drive
[23:35] <zipace> zianya_: alright, one last thing you might try
[23:35] <lenz> hey guys
[23:35] <zianya_> other distro
[23:35] <zianya_> Im downloading debian right now
[23:35] <ChuckNorrisInmor> aloh :P
[23:35] <lenz> whats you issue zianya?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> zianya_: When you installed Windows, did it install via UEFI or via BIOS?
[23:35] <zianya_> Jordan_U:  no damn idea what uefi is
[23:36] <zianya_> It just booted
[23:36] <zipace> zianya_: sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[23:36] <ChuckNorrisInmor> mmm... how can i open a .cdr file ? please help me -.-
[23:36] <ChuckNorrisInmor> i meant corel draw's files
[23:36] <Jordan_U> !uefi | zianya_
[23:37] <lenz> ChuckNorrisInmor is it a diskimage?
[23:37] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: sudo apt-get install python-uniconvertor && uniconverter file.cdr file.svg
[23:37] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: then, open the svg file with inkscape
[23:37] <ChuckNorrisInmor> lenz: nop. .cdr is the extention for corel draw's files
[23:37] <Jordan_U> zianya_: Did the Windows installation use GPT for the partition table and create a fat32 partition (the EFI System Partition)?
[23:38] <OerHeks> ChuckNorrisInmor, you can open it in inkscape
[23:38] <zianya_> no damn idea
[23:38] <zipace> zianya_: if you want to use debian instead, then it might be worth a try, though i don't think it would really be any different if the root of the problem is your hardware
[23:38] <ChuckNorrisInmor> OerHeks: nope, Inkscape doesn't work
[23:38] <mzaza> has anyone experience slow performance on desktop when trying to mark shortcuts on desktop or opening nautilus?
[23:39] <ChuckNorrisInmor> it only open come old versions .cdr files but not the most resents =(
[23:39] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: have you tried the command i gave you?
[23:39] <OerHeks> export the files as .svg is the old way
[23:40] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: yes, uniconvertor has some issues
[23:40] <ChuckNorrisInmor> has issues with pytohn 2.7 i think
[23:40] <zianya_> zipace: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[23:40] <ChuckNorrisInmor> doesn't either :P
[23:40] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: which ones? pastebin the error
[23:41] <zipace> zipace: did you use sudo?
[23:41] <ChuckNorrisInmor> ẁell i am helping a user in a chatango chat -.- zipace but... let me install uniconvertor so i can give you the outputs
[23:42] <Jordan_U> zianya_: Your Ubuntu LiveUSB currently has a directory named "efi", if you rename that directory "disabled-efi" then your computer won't try to boot it via UEFI, and thus Ubuntu's installer will not try to install a UEFI system.
[23:44] <lenz> What's the non-support chitchat ubuntu channel?
[23:44]  * r00t-err0r AFK
[23:44] <mzaza> Could the performance of nautilus while opening be affected by video driver?
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> lenz,  #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:44] <lenz> mzaza I do think so, yes.
[23:44] <Jordan_U> zianya_: You can also look at your motherboard's documentation to check how to enable/disable UEFI. Right now (for whatever reason) it appears (though I don't have enough info to say for sure) that your computer is configured to boot USB drives via UEFI and internal drives via BIOS, which is breaking things (and is very odd).
[23:44] <lenz> thanks wilee-nilee
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> np
[23:45] <mzaza> lenz: I have hybrid graphics laptop. So shouldn't it work fine if I use the built in graphics card?
[23:46] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630742/
[23:46] <zipace> mzaza: technically that would only affect nautilus if you use desktop effects
[23:46] <zipace> mzaza: try disabling them
[23:47] <mzaza> zipace: how?
[23:47] <kyconquers> how can I set the default group of all newly created file of a user?
[23:48] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: welp, looks like uniconverter hasn't been taken care of by the maintainer... if you want to help, you can file a bug by running the command "ubuntu-bug uniconverter" which will take you through the necessary steps (filing bugs REALLY does help, and you're doing everyone a bug favour!)
[23:48] <zipace> s/bug/big/
[23:48] <kyconquers> I know this does not have to do with the umask, and I can do it on a directory basis with an acl, but I need to do it on the user level.
[23:49] <rmabuntu> Can someone help me?
[23:49] <hachre> !ask
[23:49] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: ok thx i'll do it
[23:49] <zipace> mzaza: i wish I knew, I'm using KDE where I can simply use ctrl+F12
[23:50] <zipace> !effects | mzaza
[23:51] <rmabuntu> I have recently installed Ubuntu 13.04 in a VirtualMachine and installed the new friends app. Once I opened it, it displayed black. I waited a few minutes but nothing happened. Can someone help me?
[23:51] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: also, you could try "convert file.cdr file.svg", after installing imagemagick (sudo apt-get install imagemagick)
[23:52] <meleca> i wanna fuck you
[23:52] <meleca> suck my huge cock
[23:52] <wheeler_> hey anyone can help me?!
[23:53] <xupeta> why
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> wheeler_  if you're sweet
[23:53] <ChuckNorrisInmor> oh! imagemagick i didn't know that imagemagick cloud convert .cdr files, could you give me the command? -.-
[23:53] <xupeta> why kick me
[23:53] <Pici> !guidelines > xupeta
[23:53] <ChuckNorrisInmor> oh! i didn't read the whole sentence sry :P
[23:54] <wheeler_> i need the german support for studio ubuntu... my englisch is not the best^
[23:54] <anew> how can i search all files for a line of text, is this possible ?
[23:54] <zipace> !de | wheeler_
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> !de
[23:54] <xupeta> suck me
[23:54] <yofun> hello im trying to run sudo badblocks -o badblocks_list -s -v -w -t 0xAA  /dev/sda but it says /dev/sda is apparently in use by the system; it's not safe to run badblocks! (im in a live session)
[23:54] <zipace> jesus, some people simply have no manners
[23:55] <yofun> hello im trying to run sudo badblocks -o badblocks_list -s -v -w -t 0xAA  /dev/sda but it says /dev/sda is apparently in use by the system; it's not safe to run badblocks! (im in a live session)
[23:55] <MonkeyDust> zipace  it's called 'teenager'
[23:55] <yofun> haha
[23:55] <zipace> MonkeyDust: haha, i guess so :-)
[23:55] <yofun> anybody?
[23:55] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: i am on it, thx dude
[23:56] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: you're welcome! report back, i'm curious if it actually works (hard to believe, but I actually have a copy of coreldraw sitting on my desk)
[23:56] <yofun> hello im trying to run sudo badblocks -o badblocks_list -s -v -w -t 0xAA  /dev/sda but it says /dev/sda is apparently in use by the system; it's not safe to run badblocks! (im in a live session) anyone know how to fix?
[23:57] <ChuckNorrisInmor> ok
[23:57] <Jordan_U> yofun: Have you checked that no partitions on /dev/sda are mounted (or in use as swap)?
[23:57] <zipace> yofun: if /dev/sda is where your operating system resides, then it cannot be scanned as it is mounted (necessary in order to use it)
[23:57] <zipace> yofun: instead, use a livecd to check your harddrives
[23:57] <yofun> no im on a  live session (usb stick)
[23:58] <Dayofswords> yofun: is it mounted in any way? Try umount /dev/sda
[23:58] <zipace> yofun: in that case, unmount /dev/sda first
[23:58] <yofun> and i checked mount but /dev/sda is not mounted
[23:58] <zipace> yofun: what does "mount | grep /dev/sda" say?
[23:59] <yofun> zipace:  nothing :/
[23:59] <Jordan_U> yofun: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mounts" and "swapon -s".
[23:59] <zipace> what Jordan_U  said ;-)