[00:00] <[deXter]> IIRC, Ubuntu automatically pops up a dialog box that asks the user if they want to upgrade
[00:00] <[deXter]> I was wondering if Xubuntu has something similar.
[00:12] <Deepfriedice> [deXter]: That "something" is part of update-manager
[00:12] <Deepfriedice> You can add it to a Xubuntu system without causeing any problems.
[00:13] <Deepfriedice> Heck, the laptop I'm typing on has it installed (for some reason).
[01:15] <James_Epp> In Ubuntu 12.04's nautilus, I can go file - connect to server. Using xubuntu 12.04, is there a way to accomplish this same task using a GUI? It will be an FTP server connection.
[01:17] <Unit193> In thunar, Go > Open Location.
[01:17] <passthejoe> You can also do it with the Gigolo utility (which is in the Xubuntu default install)
[01:18] <James_Epp> I'm not crazy about using Gigolo, as The goal is to be able to open files off an ftp server into libreoffice
[03:02] <James_Epp> In gigolo, it is asking me for a 'preferred appliction'. I assume this is thunar, but I do not know its application name
[04:30] <[0gb_us]> Is there a place to give feedback to the Xubuntu developers?
[04:35] <[0gb_us]> Never mind.
[04:46] <[0gb_us]> Hey, again. Is there anyone here that could help me figure out Gmusicbrowser? Thanks!
[05:35] <Guest23203> Hello!
[05:35] <Unit193> Hello, Guest23203.
[05:35] <Guest23203> I'm just trying out Xchat. It looks like a really nice client so far.
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[05:36] <[0gb_us]> Hey, welcome.
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[05:37] <Baramoo> Sorry.
[05:37] <Unit193> Quite a few people like it.
[05:37] <Baramoo> Yeah. I was looking for a nice one, but I didn't find XChat until I installed Xubuntu 13.04 the first time.
[05:38] <moetunes> I like weechat
[05:38] <Baramoo> I don't remember if I tried that one.
[05:38] <Unit193> And I like irssi. ;)
[05:38] <Baramoo> Are any of those (or XChat) cross platform?
[05:39] <[0gb_us]> Pidgin seems to be the one integrated with the desktop, so I use that.
[05:39] <[0gb_us]> Pidgin is a big improvement over Ubuntu's Empathy.
[05:40] <Baramoo> :)
[05:40] <[0gb_us]> I'll try out XChat at some point though.
[05:40] <Baramoo> I like Pidgin a lot, but I prefer Xchat for IRC, so far.
[05:40] <Baramoo> I use Pidgin for Google Talk and Facebook chat (XMPP).
[05:41] <[0gb_us]> Pidgin notifies me of incoming mail. That's one of it's most important features for me.
[05:41] <Unit193> (But of course isn't an IRC client, just happens to sort of work with IRC.)
[05:41] <Baramoo> Yeah, that's pretty nice. I use K-9 on my Kindle Fire for that, though.
[05:41] <Unit193> Anywho, Baramoo:  How can we help you?
[05:42] <[0gb_us]> Ah, I see.
[05:42] <Baramoo> Oh, I'm just chatting while I install Xubuntu 13.04 on my laptop to try to dual-boot with Debian.
[05:42] <Baramoo> We'll see how it goes in a minute.
[05:43] <Baramoo> Resizing my partition went fine, anyway.
[05:43] <Baramoo> See you later! My install is finished.
[05:46] <[0gb_us]> I tried Debian. It didn't work out for me. A lovely operating system for sure, but the lack of drivers left it less functional than it could have been on my hardware.
[05:50] <Baramoo> Hey, it worked!
[05:51] <Baramoo> I've been wanting a dual-boot of Debian and Ubuntu for ages.
[05:51] <[0gb_us]> Nice. Congratulates then!
[05:51] <Baramoo> Thanks!
[05:51] <Baramoo> It was pretty easy. Just had Debian installed (32-bit) and installed Xubuntu on another partition.
[05:52] <Baramoo> 64-bit Xubuntu
[05:52] <[0gb_us]> Yeah. I had to set my sister's computer up to duel-boot Windows and Mint, and it was easy.
[05:52] <Baramoo> and they're both sharing the same partition for their home directories
[05:53] <Baramoo> I had problems trying to dual-boot two Ubuntu installations together in the past. So, I'm pretty happy that Debian seems to work with it, now.
[05:54] <Baramoo> Computer needs to restart. C-ya later!
[05:54] <[0gb_us]> XChat does not seem to have an option to auto log in or save a list of commonly used rooms, unlike Pidgin.
[05:58] <[0gb_us]> For not being a "real IRC client", Pidgin seems to be doing better in basic features.
[06:00] <laite> [0gb_us]: IIRC you can set automatic login through 'connection message' (or something similar) in server properties in xchat
[06:01] <laite> just put "/msg NickServ identify password" (without quotes) there, for freenode
[06:01] <[0gb_us]> laite: Typing that isn't auto log in.
[06:02] <[0gb_us]> OH! Sorry, misunfderstood.
[06:05] <[0gb_us]> I can't find that setting, I'll look more later. Is there a way to save a list of rooms you use?
[06:05] <ruien> Ogb: i use Pidgin, no issues here, and it can save rooms...
[06:06] <laite> [0gb_us]: sure, put them in 'favorite channels' (you can do this by right-clicking channel tab/name, once again, IIRC)
[06:06] <[0gb_us]> I use Pidgin too. Someone was telling me that Pidgin isn't an IRC client though, and that XChat is.
[06:07] <laite> sorry I can't be more specific about option names, I'm happy with weechat ^_^
[06:08] <laite> [0gb_us]: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[06:09] <[0gb_us]> Yeah, no worries. Thanks!
[06:09] <laite> there is a good picture of server properties with "favorite channels" and "connect command" options :)
[06:12] <[0gb_us]> Okay, all seems to be in order. Thanks! I'm not sure if I'll go with XChat or stay with Pidgin, but XChat does seem to have something Pidgin doesn't: backup names.
[06:13] <[0gb_us]> I don't like the appended digits so much, backup names seem like a better option.
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[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> sup :P
[07:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Someone here was worried about zeitgeist the other day, got some info for you if you are here
[08:38] <cliff_> How do you start xfce?
[08:39] <ncdmr> cliff_, depends, what's your env?  Xubuntu?  Or another Ubuntu flavour with installed xfce? In case of the latter, log out (to lightdm) and select xfce as session
[09:20] <fallore> anyone alive?
[09:20] <[uzver]> !ask
[09:20] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[09:21] <fallore> i've used arandr to set up a tv as a second monitor and have it extend instead of clone. for some reason on my laptop there's like 25% more vertical screen space than there needs to be, and i don't know how to fix it
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[09:38] <fallore> that's why i figured it was worth asking, [uzver]  :p
[09:39] <[uzver]> !patience
[09:39] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/
[09:40] <fallore> !talkingtopeopleinsteadofgettingabottodoitforyou
[09:43] <Yotson> fallore: both cases of silence actually have different meanings. And sorry, i can't help you with your issue.
[12:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> sup. anyone interested in testing/critiquing a starcraft cursor theme I'm working on?
[13:09] <rantic> Hi everyone, I just installed Xubuntu 13.04 and am extremely pleased with how smooth the process has been, hardware detection etc ... however, I've never seen such cloudy/blurry fonts before : /
[13:09] <rantic> I was wondering if anyone knew a "fix"? I tried googling it and apparently a lot of peoples eyes have issues with the default configuration in Xubuntu
[13:14] <Lehti> is it a question of anti-aliasing maybe?
[13:15] <rantic> Lehti: I exhausted all of the anti-aliasing settings from none, slight, medium to full
[13:15] <rantic> I tried using the dejavu fonts, microsoft core fonts etc
[13:15] <kRush> for me xubuntu was the first distro where I didn't have to fiddle with hinting/aliasing/whatever
[13:15] <rantic> kRush: Mind if I ask what kind of monitor?
[13:15] <Lehti> in what sense are they blurry? super soft or..?
[13:16] <rantic> Lehti: The fonts just look cloudy / murky, like they've been blurred far too much around the edges
[13:16] <kRush> uhm, dell u2311h (lcd with ips-panel)
[13:17] <rantic> hm
[13:17] <Lehti> and the problem is only with the fonts and nothing else? i.e. windows etc. are normal?
[13:19] <rantic> Lehti: After fiddling with the font settings in the xfce settings manager, and setting my default to verdana ... every thing is definitely better .. not perfect.
[13:19] <rantic> However the fonts in firefox for example or on desktop icons are still hard to read
[13:20] <rantic> Lehti: I tried a few distributions as a Linux newbie and this is the first one where the fonts were something I couldn't just fix in a control panel setting
[13:20] <elfy> I use the ubuntu font
[13:20] <kRush> did you check if the subpixel-order is correct?
[13:21] <kRush> because that looks horrid if it's wrong
[13:22] <rantic> kRush: Yeah I tried all of them :(
[13:24] <Lehti> seems really odd
[13:27] <Lehti> Droid Sans 10, AA enabled, Hinting slight, RGB, 96 DPI
[13:28] <Lehti> always worked perfectly
[13:28] <rantic> hm
[13:34] <kRush> screenshot maybe?
[13:40] <rantic> kRush: To be honest I'm at work right now and don't have the ability to take one
[13:41] <rantic> kRush: I remember installing an earlier version of Xubuntu way back so this can't be a case of my specific eyes complaining
[13:41] <rantic> I do some bug reports from other people so maybe I'll contribute my hardware information and see if anything could be addressed for a later release
[13:51] <asgard> hi, I installed xubuntu-desktop and changed to Blackbird layout (Window settings + Appearance)
[13:52] <asgard> problem: the font is blurry on the desktop icons http://www.xup.in/dl,21169361/Bildschirmfoto_vom_2013-05-03_15:43:05.png/
[13:53] <asgard> and in Firefox, the font colour is white on a white field ...
[13:53] <asgard> I don't know how to fix this
[13:55] <asgard> my other pc with the same layout+xubuntu has not such problems
[13:57] <kRush> that looks like a white font with a white shadow *shrug*
[13:57] <asgard> can somebody help, please?
[13:57] <GridCube> !patience
[13:57] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/
[13:58] <GridCube> ochosi are you here?
[14:03] <asgard> I can only find the option to change font size, can not find something to change the shadow or deactivate it
[14:04] <kRush> yeah, me neither
[14:05] <[uzver]> asgard: try to restart xfdesktop with killall xfdesktop
[14:07] <th0r> asgard: this link might help http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5506
[14:13] <GridCube> asgard, i would guess, that this should still work https://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/howto-remove-the-borders-of-your-desktop-icon-text/
[14:13] <GridCube> maaaaaaaaaybe
[14:16] <asgard> hm... I try :D
[14:16] <asgard> this is the FF problem http://www.xup.in/dl,58284634/Bildschirmfoto_vom_2013-05-03_16:05:09.png/
[14:17] <asgard> I'm off for a reboot
[14:17] <GridCube> why?
[14:17] <GridCube> just restart the session
[14:17] <knome> asgard, unfortunately, blackbird is still work in progress. please report bugs in launchpad against the ubuntu packahe shimmer-themes
[14:17] <knome> *package
[14:18] <kRush> setting blackbird colors with greybird window style is equally wonky
[14:19] <asgard> both are blackbird
[14:23] <xubuntu827> Добрый день всем позвольте спросить чем отличается убунту от ксубунту?
[14:23] <knome> !ru | xubuntu827
[14:23] <ubottu> xubuntu827: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[15:17] <bool> I am having some trouble with my monitor. In settings manager -> Power Manager I have set my monitor to be put to sleep when inactive for 30 minutes and switch off after 35. Still my monitor turns black after 15 minutes. I have also tried to never put to sleep, but it does not have any effect. I do not have screensaver enabled and have uninstalled everything xscreensaver-stuff. What should I do next?
[15:31] <xubuntu919> anyone knows if I'll have issues installing xubuntu on a new dell laptop that already has windows 8? I'm planning on dual boot
[15:34] <Unit193> You'd have to use 64bit and should read the UEFI page.
[15:34] <Unit193> !uefi
[15:34] <ubottu> UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:34] <GridCube> !uefi
[15:34] <GridCube> lol :P
[15:36] <xubuntu919> thnx
[16:29] <xubuntu515> hello
[16:29] <xubuntu515> im relatively new to xubuntu
[16:29] <xubuntu515> looks like a really cool distro
[16:29] <xubuntu515> but im just wondering
[16:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !flood | xubuntu515
[16:29] <ubottu> xubuntu515: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[16:30] <xubuntu515> will it run on my old hp desktop with 256MB of ram and a P4 processor?
[16:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> xubuntu515: likely. ubuntu, and xubuntu in particular, are very low requirement os's.
[16:31] <xubuntu515> alright, thanks
[16:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> xubuntu515: and there are other ways to improve performance on top of that.
[16:32] <elfy> I'd not try to run ubuntu with 256MB Ram
[16:33] <elfy> you might find that you'll end up wanting more ram for xubuntu
[16:38] <Unit193> 256MB really isn't enough, no.
[16:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, its not, but if its all you have *shrug*
[16:39] <Unit193> Then I'd recommend Debian or antix.
[16:58] <frankbro> Was jockey-gtk deprecated for 13.04? I apt-get installed and still can't start it.
[17:08] <GridCube> yes
[17:08] <GridCube> you need to use the software center tab for hardware
[17:15] <[0gb_us]> I just opened up the Ubuntu Software Center. There's no hardware category.
[17:17] <[0gb_us]> I got a message about a "keyring": "An application wants to create a new keyring called 'default'. Choose the password you want to use for it.". What is a keyring?
[17:18] <GridCube> its a depositorie for all your passwords
[17:19] <GridCube> it remembers them for you so you just have to remember one password
[17:20] <[0gb_us]> I just signed up for the Ubuntu Software Center's recommended application service. Does this mean I need to enter my keyring password whenever I open the Ubuntu Software Center now?
[17:21] <GridCube> if you used a different password than your main acount, probably
[17:21] <[0gb_us]> Okay. Thanks!
[17:21] <GridCube> if not then the keyring its usually open when you login
[17:28] <[0gb_us]> The Ubuntu Software Center is now recommending ubuntu-restricted-extras, which includes Flash. Oddly, I don't seem to have the restricted extras, but I do seem to have Flash ...
[17:29] <[0gb_us]> It's also recommending Unity, which was the reason I didn't go for vanilla Ubuntu.
[17:30] <[0gb_us]> It got one right though. It's Braid, which I was already planning to buy.
[17:33] <GridCube> [0gb_us], you dont have ubuntu-restricted-extras because you have xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:33] <GridCube> and the install-flashplugin comes apart from those two
[17:33] <[0gb_us]> OH! Okay, cool. Thanks for clearing that up!
[17:33] <blackgatonegro> well, is linux, you have a ton of options
[17:33] <blackgatonegro> and xubuntu and unity don't really mix
[17:34] <blackgatonegro> bye guys
[17:34] <[0gb_us]> I'm thinking computers without touch screens and Unity might not really mix either.
[17:36] <GridCube> P: computers with touchscreens and xubuntu get well tho
[17:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> [0gb_us]: honestly I have a touchscreen pc and I still could not stand unity.
[17:38] <[0gb_us]> Well, I could be wrong then.
[17:38] <[0gb_us]> I just was giving the benefit of the doubt, as I've never had a touch screen computer. ☺
[17:39] <[0gb_us]> It looks like it might be usable with a touch screen, but I've never had the chance to try that out.
[17:44] <nimby> Hi! I Upgraded to 13.04 from 12.04, now I can't boot the system
[17:44] <[0gb_us]> That's not good.
[17:44] <nimby> indeed
[17:44] <nimby> I tried the live grub fixer
[17:44] <[0gb_us]> Sorry, I wouldn't know what to do. I'm still on 12.04.
[17:45] <nimby> says something about gparted and flags and that it can't fix it
[17:46] <holstein> nimby: what says what exactly? you upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 ?
[17:46] <nimby> no
[17:46] <nimby> 12.04
[17:47] <nimby> and got rid of everything, then installed 13.04
[17:47] <holstein> nimby: so, this is a fresh install of 12.04 then, correct?
[17:47] <nimby> it doesnt say anything just _
[17:47] <holstein> 13.04*
[17:47] <nimby> no
[17:47] <nimby> this is my laptop
[17:47] <nimby> running 13.04 too
[17:47] <nimby> whic works fine :)
[17:47] <holstein> nimby: the machie that you are asking about has a fersh install of 13.04 coreect? not an upgrade?
[17:48] <nimby> yes
[17:48] <nimby> I meant to imply that 12.04 worked fine
[17:48] <holstein> ok. so, how did you insatll?
[17:48] <nimby> I tried a lot of different ngs
[17:49] <holstein> if you are getting boot flag errors, i would say, you are doing something "manual" with the installation incorrectly
[17:49] <nimby> most recently I deleted everything, all partitions even. Then the most generic install possible
[17:49] <holstein> nimby: what would i do? boot the live CD, and go through the installer from the live desktop..
[17:49] <nimby> I did that
[17:49] <holstein> nimby: i would not opt to install updates during the installation
[17:49] <nimby> i didn't
[17:50] <holstein> nimby: so what is the *exact* error? the one you are referring to as "flags"
[17:50] <nimby> aum
[17:51] <nimby> nomodeset I think
[17:52] <holstein> nimby: you can confirm this by booting the live CD with and without nomodeset
[17:52] <nimby> and something about it not being able to deal with Gparted
[17:52] <holstein> !nomodeset
[17:52] <ubottu> A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[17:52] <holstein> nimby: the installation cannot deal with gparted?
[17:52] <nimby> I'm on it someone in #ubuntu mentioned it
[17:52] <nimby> the live grub fixer
[17:52] <holstein> nimby: im not sure you have a grub error.. and you arent either
[17:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> nimby: boot-repair. and stop using so many enters
[17:53] <nimby> It was an accident
[17:53] <holstein> nimby: using boot repair was an accident?
[17:53] <nimby> no the enters
[18:12] <nimby> okay, I still get the black screen
[18:13] <mogmog_> help, i can't install xubuntu 13.04 from usb drive. ubi-language crashed.
[18:15] <holstein> nimby: i hear that... i suggest trying again... check the sum of the downloaded iso you are using.. test the hard drive, the memory
[18:15] <holstein> nimby: do you get to a desktop from the live CD?
[18:15] <nimby> yes
[18:15] <nimby> and it's the same usb I installed this system on
[18:16] <holstein> nimby: and you tested the hard drive? the target system drive?
[18:17] <nimby> no but i was using it 4 hours ago, Should I do memcheck? also is it possible to configure grub and check if that nomodeset is activated?
[18:18] <holstein> nimby: you were using what 4 hours aga?
[18:18] <holstein> ago*
[18:18] <nimby> the same hard drive, it was running 12.04.
[18:19] <holstein> !grub | nimby you can configure grub as you please, but if you can get to the live desktop without nomodeset, the installation should boot withouth it
[18:19] <ubottu> nimby you can configure grub as you please, but if you can get to the live desktop without nomodeset, the installation should boot withouth it: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:27] <mogmog_> my xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso checksum ok but i can't even get to desktop let alone install it. my computers where i tried to boot it on are okay too. strangely enuf i can boot and install it on virtualbox. any idea?
[18:37] <nimby> now I get Read Error_ when I try to boot, this is the result from grub restore http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629943/
[18:51] <nimby> isn't it strange that the live cd works and the install doesn't?
[18:54] <[0gb_us]> Maybe try reinstalling?
[18:57] <nimby> I've installed it 10x times now
[18:57] <[0gb_us]> Hmm. Sorry then.
[18:59] <nimby> yeah, it's frustrating I have no idea what to do, none of the fixes seem to work, it feels like a waste of time to re-install 12.04
[19:04] <elfy> nimby: are you booted into the live at the moment? if you are run gparted and give us a screenshot of it - imagebin.org
[19:04] <nimby> ok
[19:05] <elfy> make it big enough that people with old eyes and dirty glasses can see it please
[19:05] <elfy> :)
[19:05] <genii-around> For some reason I read that at first as dirty eyes and old glasses
[19:06] <elfy> that works too genii-around :)
[19:07] <drc> so does dirty old eyes with glasses
[19:07] <elfy> and we should take it now to -offtopic lol
[19:08] <nimby> imagebin.org/256322
[19:12] <nimby> the read error_ comes from that first partition, if i boot without that partition removed it says absolutely nothing
[19:16] <nimby> any ideas?
[19:16] <elfy> is this a UEFI machine?
[19:17] <nimby> no
[19:17] <elfy> do you see grub when you reboot?
[19:18] <nimby> It's EFI, if it's any different. No I don't see grub
[19:18] <nimby> When I boot the live cd it says something "don't do uefi", some hard drives are labeled "UEFI" in bios
[19:19] <elfy> I'd guess that's the issue then - I've not had much dealing with it unfortunately
[19:20] <elfy> have you tried reinstalling grub WITHOUT that grubrepair tool thing?
[19:21] <nimby> not manually, but I've re-installed the entire os trying different things
[19:21] <drc> nimby: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[19:23] <elfy> and to manually reinstall grub from a lived - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[19:23] <elfy> I've never had any luck with the gui tool
[19:23] <elfy> thanks drc
[19:25] <nimby> Thanks, I'll try and get back again in a couple of minutes
[19:26] <elfy> nimby: if you do the reinstall thing - then keep the terminal open - and copy paste everything to pastebin if you have errors
[19:26] <nimby> it just said : Installation finished, no error reported.
[19:28] <nimby> okay I'm getting into grub now
[19:28] <nimby> it says no such device: and then numbers
[19:30] <ThePendulum> I have this weird issue that I can only reach Google, and no other internet site or other connection
[19:30] <ThePendulum> I used to fix this by changing the MTU, but I don't recall what to
[19:34] <nimby> welp, I'm giving up. I'll just re-install 12.04. Thanks for attempting to help everyone. I appreciate it
[19:35] <elfy> nimby: 2 secs
[19:36] <elfy> if you;re still in the livecd - open the file manager and look for the installed xubuntu - click that - check in /bbot to see if there's an efi folder
[19:37] <nimby> there is
[19:37] <elfy> I think you should ahve - you need to look at the wiki page drc gave you
[19:37] <nimby> I did
[19:38] <nimby> inside /boot I suppose you mean
[19:38] <elfy> did you happen to note the number ? nimby> it says no such device: and then numbers
[19:38] <nimby> yeah, it
[19:38] <elfy> yea I did - I'm all at sea when it comes to efi boot issues
[19:38] <nimby> ups, it's the one it should be
[19:39] <nimby> the / partition of the ssd, I'm really sorry for pressing enter all the time, it's a habit
[19:39] <elfy> don't worry about it :)
[19:40] <elfy> I don't think I'm going to be able to help much
[19:41] <xubuntu898> where ti find video drivers
[19:49] <nimby> xubuntu898: settings > software and updates > proprietary drivers
[19:52] <KeyboardNotFound> I trying to create link (ln) but i have this error: hard link not allowed for directory
[19:52] <KeyboardNotFound> how to solve this ?
[19:52] <vl4kn0> Hi, where can I find colorscheme used in xubuntu xfce terminal?
[19:53] <knome> vl4kn0, it's in the package xubuntu-default-settings
[19:54] <nimby> ln -s
[19:54] <vl4kn0> knome: but I don't have xubuntu, I just think the xubuntu terminal scheme is one of the best I've seen
[19:55] <knome> vl4kn0, the sources for that package are available in launchpad
[19:55] <vl4kn0> knome: well thank you then
[19:55] <KeyboardNotFound> I trying to create link (ln) but i have this error: hard link not allowed for directory
[19:55] <knome> vl4kn0, you're welcome, and thanks for the positive feedback
[19:57] <genii-around> KeyboardNotFound: Your question was already answered in #ubuntu by thomedy. Please do not post the same question across multiple channels
[20:06] <drc> vl4kn0: Text color = #B3B3B3, cursor color = #0F4999, Background color = #131926, tab activity color = #265680 and text selection color = #163B59
[20:06] <drc> is that what you were looking for?
[20:12] <jvm_> hi, i downloaded a xubuntu iso image on a ubuntu 10.04 system. the startup disk creator isn't working right, throwing an unexplained error message after pressing the write button, and i am not sure if my usb stick is damaged. i used `sudo dd if=xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso bs=4M of=/dev/sdc1
[20:13] <jvm_> ` to write to the usb stick, but during boot it shows "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt" and then "Operating system not found".
[20:14] <jvm_> am i doing something wrong?
[20:14] <David-A> jvm_: if you use "startup disk creator" you should not use "dd". they do very different things.
[20:14] <jvm_> David-A, what exactcly is the difference?
[20:16] <jvm_> as mentioned, i didn't use the Startup Disk Creator successfully. i was under the impression that both approaches should lead to the same end result.
[20:16] <jvm_> if not, how do you create a usb boot device from command line?
[20:16] <David-A> jvm_:  "startup disk creator" creates a live system on a device that normally has the fat2 file system (the live system when running of course has ext2/3/4)
[20:17] <David-A> jvm_: "dd" will copy the image and the device will work exactly as a live CD, with iso filesystem on the device (and of course ext2/3/4 in the live system). as on a CD files CAN NOT be SAVED between sessions.
[20:18] <jvm_> David-A, i am happy with that.
[20:19] <jvm_> i plan to use the system only for installation on hard disk.
[20:20] <David-A> jvm_: if you use "dd" first, the device has a filesystem that cannot be written to, so "startup disk creator" cannot do its thing. you have to choose on or the other.
[20:20] <David-A> *one or the other
[20:20] <jvm_> David-A, i chose dd.
[20:20] <jvm_> but it's not working.
[20:20] <jvm_> can you help me out?
[20:20] <David-A> jvm_: I'd chose "startup disk creator"
[20:21] <knome> jvm_, have you checked the integrity of the downloaded ISO?
[20:21] <knome> jvm_, with md5sum or from the disc
[20:22] <drc> jvm_: of=/dev/sdc1 ?  I have never had luck with that designation.  Try of=/dev/sdc (no 1).  Be aware it will write the whole sUSB and you will loose what ever is on it.  If you want to use of=/dev/sdc1 then I'd use unetbootin
[20:22] <jvm_> knome, i have now- it is fine.
[20:22] <jvm_> drc, thanks very much for the information. i wasn't sure on it and found contradicting statements.
[20:28] <FrozenR> hello! i got a problem something bug! i install xubunt on my laptop and when it logs and asks my password as the root user and i USE THE RIGHT one password the screen goes black for 1-2 sec like its processing and asks me again to put the password!
[20:28] <FrozenR> i have to notice that there is not error message like wrong password
[20:28] <FrozenR> when i put a wrong password i can see normally the warning message about incorrect password
[20:29] <knome> FrozenR, are you trying to log in as root?
[20:29] <FrozenR> yes
[20:29] <knome> FrozenR, you shouldn't.
[20:29] <knome> !rootsudo | FrozenR
[20:29] <ubottu> FrozenR: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:30] <FrozenR> well but how comes this?
[20:30] <FrozenR> i mean why it cant accept my password from the graphical interface
[20:30] <FrozenR> when xubuntu starts
[20:30] <FrozenR> and i have to log as guest for to can use sudo command
[20:31] <FrozenR> also sudo doesnt working in terminal...its just says me unable to change to sudoers gid:operation not permitted
[20:32] <lderan> The last link the ubottu gave you might be of some help in that regards
[20:33] <FrozenR> oh i am sorry my bad!!! in my frustation and i dint noticed it
[20:35] <jvm_> drc, i did it again with /dev/sdc, but booting with the usb stick still leads to the same error message.
[20:36] <mogmog_> 13.04's good but i almost passed out waiting it to load desktop. anything i can do to make boot time faster?
[20:37] <FrozenR> oh its worked with just a reboot :P
[20:37] <knome> mogmog_, well the obvious... try seeing if you have unused services ran on boot time
[20:37] <knome> mogmog_, and then the even more obvious: buy a faster pc with an ssd drive ;)
[20:38] <FrozenR> well i love the look of xubuntu but sometimes i think that may linux is buggy?
[20:38] <mogmog_> lolz. 12.10 not that long
[20:38] <FrozenR> in windows doest happen easy to have these bugs with logins
[20:39] <knome> FrozenR, there are bugs in any software; in linux, we can fix them if users report them
[20:40] <FrozenR> aha...its great anyway just hard the first times especially when you had windows for 10 years lol :(
[20:40] <knome> change is always hard, regardless what you are switching to
[20:41] <FrozenR> yeah!
[20:42] <FrozenR> you have some good purposes to download from excellent software center of ubuntu?and i mean about developing tools...expect netbeans for a web developer...what is the best?
[20:42] <knome> !best | FrozenR
[20:42] <ubottu> FrozenR: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors.
[20:47] <FrozenR> its just too hard to choose from all these heheheh
[20:50] <drc> FrozenR: They're free, try them all.
[20:50] <FrozenR> indeed ;) but for php or sql witch have the rumors
[21:09] <Jon__> Anyone here?
[21:10] <knome> !anyone | Jon__
[21:10] <ubottu> Jon__: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[21:11] <Jon__> Does anyone know if I can run Xubuntu on an AMD XP processor?
[21:11] <knome> yes you can. it might not be the fastest though
[21:12] <Jon__> Ok. Because I tried Ubuntu, and after login, it basically froze up.
[21:12] <Jon__> I want to use it as an Android testing enviroment.
[21:12] <knome> how much ram do you have and what's the CPU frequency?
[21:13] <xubuntu391> why its a bit slow when i am pressing right click mouse to show the menu?it takes 1 sec...
[21:14] <Jon__> 1GB RAM and I think something like 333Hz or something.
[21:14] <David-A> xubuntu391: is right click menu slow every time or just the first time?
[21:15] <xubuntu391> every time that i am pressing it
[21:15] <knome> Jon__, 333?! i must be thinking some other AMD XP processors... :)
[21:16] <Jon__> It's an old PC.
[21:16] <knome> Jon__, you might want to try something even lighter - if you want something in the ubuntu family, i'd suggest lubuntu for starters
[21:16] <knome> Jon__, or alternatively, building a custom system with the minimal iso
[21:16] <knome> !minimal | Jon__
[21:16] <ubottu> Jon__: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:19] <David-A> Jon__: no AMD XP on the wikipedia site has 333MHz nominal cpu freq. IF it is an AMD XP it should be fast enough.
[21:19] <Jon__> Hmm... I can't quite remember how much it has. Could you link me to the wiki page and maybe I can identify my PC?
[21:20] <Jon__> My bad, it's the one with 1333mhz
[21:23] <xubuntu391> the computer needs to restart to finishing installing updates?tsk tsk too much windows sounds :P
[21:24] <knome> xubuntu391, you can postpone until you really want to do it.
[21:24] <David-A> Jon__: from around year 2001 then? xubuntu should work, but expect some heavy web pages to to feel sluggish and hi-def videos to chopp.
[21:24] <xubuntu391> in the windows too :P
[21:25] <knome> xubuntu391, and basially you only need to do that when you install a new kernel
[21:26] <xubuntu391> oh well then ;) it just asked me to install 199 news updates (to a fresh install of xubuntu) so i guess it was kernel thing too :P
[21:28] <xubuntu391> btw still its slow on the right click of mouse in desktop :( how comes
[22:26] <xubutun__live>  Hey guys I am currently trying to install xubuntu 13.04 x64 on some UEFI hardware. Any extra steps I should take?
[22:27] <drc> xubutun__live: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI for a start.
[22:28] <xubutun__live> Thx bro should have done that to begin with