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| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | Kubuntu Council election: Voting in progress | ||
| smartboyhw | Who has voted already! | 02:00 |
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| smartboyhw | ? | 02:00 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: newversion kdev-python 1/ | 02:41 |
| smartboyhw | DAMN | 02:41 |
| kubotu | Package kdev-python doesn't exist yet! | 02:41 |
| smartboyhw | OH | 02:41 |
| smartboyhw | Meh? | 02:41 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: newpackage kdev-python | 02:42 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help newpackage' | 02:42 |
| smartboyhw | Meh | 02:42 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: help newpackage | 02:42 |
| kubotu | newpackage <packagename> <version> [description]; Adds needs-packaging bug for entirely new package. | 02:42 |
| kubotu | newversion <packagename> <version> [description]; Adds update bug for existing package. | 02:42 |
| kubotu | buildstatus <packagename> [release] [ppa]; Buildstatus for package. | 02:42 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: newpackage kdev-python 1.5 | 02:42 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1176267 | 02:43 |
| ScottK | smartboyhw: See 1176225 - that one was already reported. | 03:01 |
| ahoneybun | hey ScottK | 03:22 |
| ScottK | ahoneybun: Hello | 03:22 |
| ahoneybun | ScottK: I have not gotten in contact with volkan | 03:29 |
| ahoneybun | I think this is him https://launchpad.net/~volkangezer | 03:39 |
| ScottK | ahoneybun: No, look at the listed IRC nick, it's different. | 03:41 |
| ScottK | Might be https://launchpad.net/~vlyalcin | 03:43 |
| ahoneybun | I'm going to end up messaging everyone lol | 03:45 |
| ahoneybun | I really want to work on this more | 03:46 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-docs | 03:51 |
| ahoneybun | I'm just thinking on how to sorting this | 03:51 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: did you start out with the docs that we used to distribute? | 04:04 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: I'd like to help, although I loathe that wiki-markup | 04:05 |
| valorie | I've worked on our docs in the past, in the xml | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: yes I used bzr to pull the code from lp, this is what I have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-docs | 04:06 |
| valorie | right, that was what I was looking at | 04:08 |
| valorie | the spelling seems rather hinky though | 04:08 |
| valorie | and the order of the sections seems odd | 04:08 |
| valorie | just wondering if that is how our old docs were organized, or what | 04:09 |
| ahoneybun | yes its right from the old ones | 04:09 |
| ahoneybun | same order | 04:09 |
| ahoneybun | reading it now I think Linux and KDE should be first | 04:10 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: other then that how am I doing? | 04:17 |
| valorie | looks great | 04:18 |
| valorie | although there has to be a way to make dots or symbols rather then little dashes | 04:18 |
| ahoneybun | I fixed that! | 04:18 |
| valorie | I can edit when you are done with what you are doing | 04:19 |
| valorie | ok | 04:19 |
| ahoneybun | I just saved the changes | 04:19 |
| valorie | cool, yes, now I see it | 04:19 |
| valorie | it would be nice to have our wiki themed like our website | 04:20 |
| valorie | but I guess it takes forever to get that done | 04:20 |
| ahoneybun | I wish I could rename the page to kubuntu-docs-about and the welcome to kubuntu-docs-welcome | 04:20 |
| ahoneybun | should I call it Ubuntu's GNOME desktop but it is Unity | 04:30 |
| valorie | ubuntu's Unity desktop | 04:35 |
| valorie | all of the flavors like that (in my mind) | 04:35 |
| valorie | because you can use gnome desktop too, or xfce, etc. | 04:36 |
| valorie | might be cool to have buttons for all the flavors | 04:36 |
| ahoneybun | true | 04:40 |
| valorie | there is way too much "ubuntu is unity only" thought around | 04:42 |
| valorie | whereas the community and the flavors all working towards a common goal is what makes us strong | 04:42 |
| valorie | sometimes I get the feeling that canonical folks get threatened by the success of any flavor but unity | 04:44 |
| ahoneybun | that is true I get the feeling that Linux will only work if it follows their goals | 04:44 |
| valorie | it's too easy to lose focus and start fighting over different tastes, rather than focus on our common goals | 04:45 |
| ahoneybun | to provide s useable desktop for everyone | 04:47 |
| ahoneybun | *provide a usable | 04:47 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-docs | 04:48 |
| ahoneybun | I can rename the page | 04:49 |
| valorie | huh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs | 04:50 |
| ahoneybun | ok so I will edit to follow that model better then mine no? | 04:53 |
| valorie | I was just bringing it into the discussion because it's an old page which already exists, and could be mixed up with your new page | 04:54 |
| valorie | at least you should have a link to the new page | 04:54 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK: OK. | 04:54 |
| smartboyhw | Bug 1176255 | 04:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1176255 in linux-mako (Ubuntu) "linux-mako fails to boot when built with gcc 4.8" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176255 | 04:55 |
| smartboyhw | Uh oh | 04:55 |
| smartboyhw | Bug 1176225 | 04:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1176225 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] kdev-python" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176225 | 04:55 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail | 04:56 |
| valorie | cool | 04:57 |
| valorie | CamelCasing has been used in wikis forever | 04:57 |
| smartboyhw | I never wanted to work on docs because the syntax was frightening;P So thank you ahoneybun:) | 04:58 |
| valorie | ugly, but it works | 04:58 |
| valorie | esp. THIS wiki | 04:58 |
| valorie | horrible | 04:58 |
| valorie | all honor to ahoneybun | 04:59 |
| ahoneybun | syntax? | 04:59 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: thanks! I also made the new banner for the 13.04 release | 04:59 |
| valorie | wiki markup | 04:59 |
| valorie | i would so love to see that on the wiki | 05:00 |
| valorie | wiki pages are often so boring looking | 05:00 |
| valorie | all text, no fun | 05:00 |
| ahoneybun | I wanted to add images | 05:00 |
| ahoneybun | should this be more then one page or all in one? | 05:00 |
| valorie | \o/ | 05:00 |
| ahoneybun | I don't think I can put the image on there just link it | 05:01 |
| valorie | no, they can be embedded | 05:02 |
| valorie | I just don't know how | 05:02 |
| ahoneybun | I have tried all the links that photobucket gave me | 05:03 |
| valorie | I think they have to somehow be uploaded to the wiki itself | 05:03 |
| ahoneybun | found it | 05:04 |
| ahoneybun | boom https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail | 05:06 |
| smartboyhw | ahoneybun: Good;) | 05:07 |
| ahoneybun | trying to get it aligned | 05:08 |
| valorie | lovely! | 05:10 |
| ahoneybun | not aligned | 05:11 |
| ahoneybun | ... | 05:11 |
| valorie | aligned here, in chromium | 05:11 |
| ahoneybun | oh not in firefox | 05:12 |
| ahoneybun | thanks smartboyhw! | 05:12 |
| valorie | not so good in rekonq | 05:12 |
| valorie | since we ship rekonq, it should look great there | 05:13 |
| ahoneybun | true but I am using the right code, the only thing I can do is resize it | 05:16 |
| ahoneybun | still nothing | 05:17 |
| valorie | yup, another reasons wikis suck a bit | 05:17 |
| ahoneybun | wait getting i | 05:18 |
| ahoneybun | it | 05:18 |
| ahoneybun | got it in firefox good | 05:20 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: refresh your browser ;) | 05:21 |
| valorie | great! | 05:21 |
| ahoneybun | oh yea | 05:22 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: looks good in konqueror as well | 05:24 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: awesome! | 05:24 |
| ahoneybun | smartboyhw: it is scary a bit, I mostly just don't know how to work this out | 05:32 |
| valorie | how to work what out? | 05:34 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: organize all this | 05:35 |
| ahoneybun | there are 26 different folders in docs and I want to lower that by combining them | 05:36 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: that def. sounds like the best idea | 05:37 |
| valorie | what helps me is to write stuff out with a pen and paper | 05:38 |
| ahoneybun | like media, photos, and videos can be in the same categorie | 05:38 |
| valorie | maybe cut it up | 05:38 |
| ahoneybun | that is good | 05:38 |
| valorie | and then move them around until they seem to flow right | 05:38 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 05:38 |
| valorie | for some reason my brain works better with actual STUFF | 05:38 |
| ahoneybun | same here | 05:39 |
| ahoneybun | got them down to 5 | 05:56 |
| ahoneybun | well 4 | 06:02 |
| valorie | \o/ | 06:05 |
| ahoneybun | what does that mean lol | 06:05 |
| valorie | hands in the air? | 06:06 |
| ahoneybun | lol | 06:07 |
| smartboyhw | \o/ means hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 06:08 |
| ahoneybun | what for lol | 06:10 |
| valorie | simplifying! | 06:12 |
| smartboyhw | Yep \o/ | 06:13 |
| ahoneybun | yea true | 06:13 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail | 06:13 |
| valorie | awesome | 06:14 |
| valorie | but what is "interworkings"? | 06:14 |
| ahoneybun | community- bug reports, development, support, contact | 06:16 |
| valorie | how about: community | 06:17 |
| smartboyhw | ahoneybun: Use valorie's suggestion instead | 06:17 |
| valorie | or getting involved | 06:17 |
| valorie | might be more "open" | 06:17 |
| ahoneybun | both of those I thought of lol | 06:18 |
| ahoneybun | what about "Our Community"? | 06:18 |
| valorie | this is my thought: we know what we mean by community | 06:18 |
| valorie | but absolute newcomers won't | 06:18 |
| valorie | getting involved is generic | 06:19 |
| valorie | but everyone will know what it means | 06:19 |
| valorie | and if you have a sentence about it, with the list above, people will know for sure | 06:19 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 06:20 |
| ahoneybun | smartboyhw: thats for sure | 06:21 |
| valorie | the more clear and plain we can be, the better | 06:25 |
| valorie | also: easier to translate | 06:25 |
| ahoneybun | ok, I'm going to put a few pictures in here | 06:28 |
| ahoneybun | its beautifl | 06:30 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail/Basics | 06:30 |
| ahoneybun | *beautiful | 06:31 |
| valorie | looks great | 06:34 |
| smartboyhw | Awesome! Thanks ahoneybun | 06:36 |
| ahoneybun | smartboyhw: for what? lol | 06:37 |
| smartboyhw | ahoneybun: For docs making:) | 06:41 |
| ahoneybun | smartboyhw: no problem! but I'm not done! | 06:42 |
| ahoneybun | not sure what to do if I have nothing in the directory it is talking about | 06:44 |
| smartboyhw | ahoneybun: Doing is better than none;) | 06:44 |
| smartboyhw | bye bye, no battrry for phone | 06:45 |
| valorie | once the basics are covered, we can fill the gaps | 06:45 |
| ahoneybun | smartboyhw: true, bye! | 06:46 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: you mean the once the floor plan is done, or the page "The Basics" is done | 06:47 |
| valorie | the floor plan | 06:47 |
| valorie | and most of the suitable text from the old docs | 06:47 |
| valorie | although we don't have to stick with those if we don't want to | 06:48 |
| ahoneybun | I know but its better then starting from scratch | 06:49 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail/Basics | 06:49 |
| valorie | for sure | 06:49 |
| ahoneybun | its almost 3am here | 06:51 |
| valorie | when you're done, I'll edit a bit | 06:51 |
| ahoneybun | ok soon I will be | 06:53 |
| ahoneybun | cuz I should not stay up to late | 06:53 |
| valorie | you can decide tomorrow if my edits are suitable | 06:54 |
| valorie | :-) | 06:54 |
| ahoneybun | well here it is tomorrow lol | 06:56 |
| valorie | almost here too | 06:56 |
| ahoneybun | ok refresh I added some more | 06:56 |
| ahoneybun | made changes anyway | 06:57 |
| valorie | question | 06:57 |
| ahoneybun | shot | 06:57 |
| valorie | why is the basic linux system "kubuntu basics?" | 06:57 |
| ahoneybun | true | 06:57 |
| valorie | we want most people to use the gui tools, true? | 06:57 |
| valorie | I think what you've got is good, but it seems like "linux basics" to me | 06:58 |
| ahoneybun | refresh | 06:58 |
| ahoneybun | that is why I should not be writting at 3 in the morning lol | 07:00 |
| valorie | I'll work on that a bit | 07:00 |
| valorie | I think it should end up near the end of the docs though | 07:00 |
| valorie | since it will change little if at all | 07:00 |
| ahoneybun | ok I'm hitting the bed and netflix | 07:00 |
| valorie | this really is linux basics | 07:00 |
| ahoneybun | basics last thought? | 07:01 |
| valorie | it would look the same in puppy, or opensuse | 07:01 |
| ahoneybun | though | 07:01 |
| valorie | you'll see in the morning! | 07:01 |
| ahoneybun | true with some changes | 07:01 |
| valorie | only for clarity | 07:01 |
| ahoneybun | ok see yea | 07:01 |
| valorie | thanks for all your work! | 07:01 |
| ahoneybun | no problem doing my part! | 07:01 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: these images should be uploaded to the wiki | 07:20 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: my edits don't seem to be "taking" -- one of the links is spelled wrong, and saving the fix isn't working | 08:24 |
| valorie | so I think I've done what I can tonight | 08:24 |
| valorie | I really think that the linux basics should go near the end | 08:25 |
| valorie | Kubuntu up top, then KDE, then Linux | 08:25 |
| valorie | IMO | 08:25 |
| apachelogger | someone broke zic :( | 09:02 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK: Is the election vote changeable BTW? I have never used CIVS. | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | why is there no "want the old people back"? | 10:04 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger: ? | 10:06 |
| === mck182 is now known as mck182|lunch | ||
| Riddell | valorie: that sounds like you're doing docs? | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5035TY5RSpg | 10:15 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: You know about the answer? ^ | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EaoPMANQM | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there ya go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vHASPezsY | 10:20 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: what what? | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | que? | 10:21 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Can one change his vote in CIVS after voting? | 10:22 |
| Riddell | looks like no | 10:23 |
| Riddell | it says "A vote has already been cast using your voter key." | 10:23 |
| smartboyhw | meh. Riddell you have voted already? | 10:25 |
| smartboyhw | :O | 10:27 |
| Riddell | yep | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: That's quick | 10:41 |
| * smartboyhw still needs replies, IIRC | 10:41 | |
| smartboyhw | Heck, let us see when we can get 4.10.3 tagged:P | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | Monday, need a day or two recover | 10:50 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: When are you leaving for Barcelona? | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | Already here | 10:52 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: Oh good | 10:52 |
| smartboyhw | Heh,FC Barcelona was defeated 0-7 | 10:53 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, any time to write up replies to my two questions?:P | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | on monday | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | A bit too tired to write proper replies | 10:53 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: So where in Barcelona are you now? | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | Pinea De Mar | 10:53 |
| smartboyhw | i.e.? | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | Nearby Spain | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | Near Barcelona | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | see what I mean ^^ | 10:54 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: Oh | 10:55 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: if you need me to poke him he's sitting next to me | 10:56 |
| Riddell | but currently he's trying to disable me with spicy nuts | 10:56 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Eh who are you meaning? | 10:58 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer | 10:58 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: srsly? | 10:58 |
| * Riddell posts http://blogs.kde.org/2013/05/04/kubuntu-support | 11:10 | |
| === mck182|lunch is now known as mck182 | ||
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Good one! | 11:15 |
| Riddell | any day now | 11:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: has the owncloud update question reached stalemate? | 11:19 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Does http://www.kubuntu.org/about-us need an update for the Canonical part? | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw_: he's lunching | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | though that page could use the addition of Debian | 11:46 |
| smartboyhw_ | shadeslayer: I think one good thing about IRC is that I can tell people messages without needing to care that he is lunching:P | 11:47 |
| smartboyhw_ | shadeslayer: And KDE | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | I see KDE there | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | "Powered by KDE" | 11:47 |
| smartboyhw_ | shadeslayer: :D | 11:48 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw_: I don't even recognise that page | 11:55 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw_: feel free to edit it | 11:55 |
| Riddell | there's lots on that website which needs updated | 11:55 |
| Quintasan | Hello | 11:55 |
| Riddell | hi Quintasan | 11:55 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Laters | 11:56 |
| Quintasan | Wow | 11:57 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Good one, seems like we're back in business | 11:57 |
| Riddell | any day now | 11:57 |
| Quintasan | At least with regard to commercial supportl | 11:57 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer, yofel: next weeked - Active packaging sprint? | 11:58 |
| Quintasan | weekend*even | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | maybe, can't confirm as of right now | 12:00 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I see, if you have a better date then do tell, I'm just throwing random dates since if I'm not doing any uni stuff I'm generally free | 12:03 |
| * Quintasan got his programming assigments done in advance | 12:04 | |
| shadeslayer | I will most likely be free | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | but I can't confirm as of right now, give me a couple of days to figure something out | 12:04 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Sure sure, no need to rush anything, saucy just opened :P | 12:05 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 12:08 |
| Quintasan | Any ideas why KDE Identity account is not used on bugs.kde.org? | 12:10 |
| Quintasan | I just figured I have to create separate account there | 12:10 |
| === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw | ||
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: no i.k.o integration on Bugzilla | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | someone needs to write a plugin or sth | 12:29 |
| Riddell | is this too grumpy? http://blogs.kde.org/2013/05/04/mataro-sessions-ii | 12:32 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Not bad, not too grumpy if you ask me | 12:33 |
| smartboyhw | OK guys KDE SC 4.10.3 tarballs are 'ere | 12:34 |
| Riddell | boom | 12:35 |
| Riddell | who wants to take it up? | 12:35 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: It is OK I think | 12:35 |
| smartboyhw | I mean the blog post | 12:35 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: According to jono (or dholbach or balloons) that "secret meeting" is held every cycle:O | 12:36 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: You will take it up. :P | 12:37 |
| Quintasan | Badumtss | 12:38 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan: What? | 12:38 |
| Riddell | there's the question of do we want to do merges first or 4.10.3 first? | 12:38 |
| Quintasan | Nothing. Just making random noises | 12:38 |
| Quintasan | We want merges first | 12:39 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan: LOL | 12:39 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Merges. | 12:39 |
| smartboyhw | But by the time we did all the merges there will be KDE SC 4.10.4 (:P) | 12:40 |
| Quintasan | No. | 12:40 |
| Quintasan | If you get to work instead of talking smartboyhw we will have it down quickly | 12:40 |
| Quintasan | :P | 12:40 |
| Riddell | merges will take some time but I think I agree it needs to be done first | 12:40 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan: Eh, I can't work these days, it's near exams. :P | 12:41 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Then what the hell are you doing here? Go and study or something :P | 12:41 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan: Or rather, I am grounded for computers. | 12:42 |
| yofel | smartboyhw, Riddell: merges first | 12:42 |
| yofel | but that doesn't mean you can't do the 4.10.3 SRU packages | 12:42 |
| yofel | just skip saucy | 12:42 |
| smartboyhw | That's a unison:P | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yofel I agree, we should merge first | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: maybe we can pin down some of them with apachelogger this week? | 12:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I do want to get cracking on them | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | make an announcement that we're not doing 4.10.3 for a bit since we're mergin first | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | *merging | 12:43 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: I see, that seems more legitimate an excuse rather than exams :P | 12:44 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer might know something about the latter :P | 12:44 |
| shadeslayer | exams @_@ | 12:44 |
| Quintasan | Well, Food Time | 12:45 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan: Heh | 12:47 |
| Quintasan | I'll get to merging today since I'm done with uni magic | 12:48 |
| ryanakca | valorie: If I remember correctly, the goal a couple of years ago was to get the website to match the wiki theme :) | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | !sru | 13:13 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 13:13 |
| Riddell | ponderous question, what does Kubuntu want from KDE? | 13:22 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: ? | 13:23 |
| Riddell | any apps would be good to have? any experiences can be improved? | 13:24 |
| Riddell | I'm thining activities needs improved | 13:24 |
| Riddell | also ms export in calligra | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | a working clock kcm would be nice :O | 13:27 |
| yofel | a sane way to configure file sharing between computers (AFAIK the samba stuff is rather broken) | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | no one shares files | 13:28 |
| yofel | not everyone uses dropbox... | 13:29 |
| yofel | nor owncloud | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | no, I mean that | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | one uses upnp | 13:29 |
| yofel | well, we don't use hupnp | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | file sharing is a shit concept for 300000000% of the usescase | 13:29 |
| * Riddell thinks apachelogger may not be entirely serious | 13:29 | |
| apachelogger | also hupnp is crap | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | but that is another story | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | also it does not offer what we need | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | essentially we/KDE has no upnp middleware solution that would allow apps to easily get upnp integration (short of KIO) or share data using upnp (i.e. a server) | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: LOL | 13:32 |
| smartboyhw | Seriously apachelogger, whay is upup and hupnp? | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | :O | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | que? | 13:33 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play ? | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | [Build #4547391] i386 build of kde-workspace 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu3 in ubuntu saucy PROPOSED someone tell whoever broke boost that they also broke workspace :P | 13:33 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: hupnp is some qt integration of that http://sourceforge.net/projects/hupnp/ | 13:34 |
| yofel | it's an optional dependency of kdelibs, but we don't use it | 13:34 |
| * yofel remembers it being rather annoying last time we tried | 13:34 | |
| Riddell | I was advised by the author not to use it | 13:35 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: heh | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug 1174495 SRU incoming until .3 hits raring | 13:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1174495 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Saucy) "kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | also saucy doesn't build because boost is fried | 13:46 |
| debfx | do we have logs of the qdbus upgrade bug? I could only find bug #1155687 but that doesn't have much information | 13:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1155687 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "KDE session didn't start after upgrading from Quantal to Raring Beta 1. Fixed after installing proper qdbus package according to amd64 architecture" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155687 | 13:47 |
| Riddell | yum, deep fried boost | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | debfx: yofel would know | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | he was looking into it | 13:48 |
| Riddell | http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/short-tip-fix-qdbus-problems-during-a-kubuntu-upgrade-to-13-04/ have anything? | 13:48 |
| yofel | only shortly until I was distraced by our plasma setup | 13:48 |
| yofel | the only upgrade logs I got from someone showed that even before the upgrade only qdbus:i386 existed | 13:48 |
| yofel | and he couldn't find a removal of qdbus:amd64 in the logs, which is fishy but I didn't have time to replicate the situation yet | 13:49 |
| yofel | debfx: http://nopaste.info/4f9ca10823.html | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | there is nothing wrong with qdbus:i386 being the only installed one :P | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | in <13.04 | 13:50 |
| yofel | well, you can only have one, right. But using i386 on amd64 sounds kind of wrong | 13:50 |
| yofel | though it shouldn't fail either | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | so the problem is perhaps not so much that qdbus:amd64 did go away at some point in the past, but that the upgrade does not make sure the system ends up with qdbus:i386 (or the qtchooser thingy manages to pick up i386 on amd64 or something) | 13:51 |
| debfx | qdbus is multi-arch:foreign so apt should always prefer the native architecture | 13:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: [we want from kde] language settings not kde specific? | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | OK I have some 1.5 hours to work on some packaging. Any ideas? | 14:00 |
| Riddell | start atthe start | 14:01 |
| Riddell | pkg-kde-tools I'd think | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, hmm? | 14:01 |
| Riddell | shared-mime-info | 14:03 |
| Riddell | phonon | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, meh.... | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | That takes more than 1.5 hours for me. | 14:03 |
| Riddell | maybe cmake needs a merge | 14:03 |
| Riddell | shared-mime-info is trivial | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I thought of an idea: Since I have never done KDE SC packaging before, let me try 4.10.3.:P (Of course merges are important, but :P) | 14:04 |
| Riddell | oh sure you can try running the magic script | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :P | 14:05 |
| Riddell | but I think that also takes more than 1.5 hours | 14:05 |
| Riddell | of course you could get it stared and someone else take over if it's on an ec2 | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, sure | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, give me an EC2 plz | 14:06 |
| ScottK | smartboyhw: If you got to your vote URL again that was in the email, I think you can change it, but I'm not sure. | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, according to Riddell not | 14:06 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: lp id? | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, smartboyhw :P | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | smartboyhw is my basic internet language | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 14:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: No discussion either way so far on the TB list. I'll ping the list tomorrow. | 14:07 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Just make sure you commit the workspace change to bzr then. | 14:07 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) | 14:07 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Accepted. | 14:11 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: ubuntu@ec2-54-224-229-193.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 14:11 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: run byobu | 14:11 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, did it before:) | 14:12 |
| ScottK | xnox: apachelogger will/has put a patch in bzr we need to make sure gets into saucy when you upload for the boost transition. | 14:12 |
| ScottK | (kde-workspace) | 14:12 |
| Riddell | lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/ | 14:12 |
| smartboyhw | doing | 14:12 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, ^ | 14:12 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, meh Permission denied (publickey) | 14:13 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: use http | 14:13 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, ? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | you can branch using an http url | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, oh really? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | try http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/ | 14:15 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, good thanks:) | 14:15 |
| smartboyhw | done | 14:16 |
| debfx | yofel: the problem seems to be that on the precise upgrade apt installed qdbus:i386 and now qtchooser only considers native arch binaries so qdbus is broken | 14:16 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-initial-upload is the first one I think | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, do I need the --sru argument? Shouldn't right? | 14:19 |
| Riddell | um, I don't know | 14:20 |
| Riddell | since it's for a sru I think so yes | 14:20 |
| yofel | debfx: qtchooser issue then? | 14:20 |
| Riddell | sru here just means ppa backport | 14:20 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: you need | 14:20 |
| yofel | it | 14:20 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: it's a switch for script behaviour | 14:21 |
| yofel | and 4.10.3 will end up in raring-updates as an SRU | 14:21 |
| debfx | yofel: depends on your POV. it really doesn't make sense to have qdbus:i386 on amd64 in the first place. | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, oh | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | OK try time;P | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | Meh it failed | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | .... | 14:22 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: to be concrete: normally the script uses bzr and updates everything, with --sru it doesn't use bzr and does a diff check for every package to decide whether it has to be updated | 14:23 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, ah | 14:23 |
| smartboyhw | Anyway, it failed:P | 14:23 |
| smartboyhw | Downloading the tar | 14:23 |
| yofel | then ~/.ssh/config is missing | 14:23 |
| yofel | probably | 14:24 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, mine is empty too | 14:25 |
| yofel | see README | 14:25 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm it just simply can't connect to the sftp | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, ^ | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | I might have to import my own gpg key:O | 14:31 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: is your ssh key on the box? | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, that's the question. Probably not | 14:31 |
| Riddell | you'll need to put your ssh key on it | 14:31 |
| yofel | you need sftp access to ftpmaster | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | That's after all an EC2 | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | Uh | 14:31 |
| Riddell | be very veyr sure to kick me out first | 14:31 |
| Riddell | and stop me being able to get back in until you remove your key | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, OK | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | How to kick ya? | 14:32 |
| * smartboyhw is an idiot of EC2s sorry | 14:32 | |
| Riddell | kill my bash process | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, um there are three..... | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | Looks like I need to stay away and study a Linux course | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | OK I know who's you now | 14:35 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: last will say I'm pts/0 so kill the bash on pts/0 | 14:35 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, did it work? | 14:36 |
| Riddell | you kicked me out! | 14:36 |
| Riddell | don't you love me any more? | 14:36 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, ouch:P | 14:37 |
| smartboyhw | Sorry | 14:37 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 14:37 |
| Riddell | :) | 14:37 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, hmm I already HAVE that key imported | 14:39 |
| smartboyhw | ... | 14:39 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: needs your private key on the server | 14:40 |
| Riddell | scp .ssh/* server:.ssh/ | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, host computer or ec2? | 14:40 |
| Riddell | from your local to ec2 server | 14:40 |
| Riddell | (arguably this is very bad security because amazon staff can see it, that's a risk I'm fine with but it's up to you) | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: scp: ambiguous target | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | 14:42 | |
| smartboyhw | ? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | what target did you give it? | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, the full link of the ec2 | 14:43 |
| Riddell | pastebin? | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | http://paste.kde.org/737570/ | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, actually wait | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | It makes sense! | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | Look at the latest e-mail of kde-packager | 14:44 |
| Riddell | remove the * at the end | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, the script won't work at all:P | 14:45 |
| smartboyhw | the /src thing is missing | 14:45 |
| Riddell | that should be easy enough to fix | 14:45 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, heh | 14:45 |
| yofel | that's a one-line fix in line 174 | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yep:) | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, * files belong to ftpadmin:ftp instead of ftpadmin:packager | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | is that a problem? | 14:49 |
| yofel | shouldn't as long as you can download them | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, woohoo it's ready to upload | 14:51 |
| smartboyhw | No damn it isn't | 14:52 |
| yofel | lol no, the script should need quite a while until it finishes | 14:52 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, wrong link I did | 14:52 |
| yofel | esp. as it need to download everything twice | 14:53 |
| smartboyhw | Heh | 14:53 |
| * yofel just remembered that he needs to enable the status pages | 14:54 | |
| smartboyhw | yofel, thx | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | hmm the structure of the changed line should be correct | 14:55 |
| yofel | diff? | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, um it just removes the /src/ | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | actually. /src :P | 14:56 |
| yofel | hm, should work, yeah | 14:56 |
| * yofel checks what's on ftpmaster | 14:56 | |
| yofel | oh | 14:56 |
| yofel | src/ is now there ^^ | 14:57 |
| yofel | so revert that again | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, damn | 14:57 |
| yofel | he just fixed it | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, hmm no doesn't work (even adding back /src/) | 14:58 |
| yofel | log? | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632468/ | 14:59 |
| yofel | *blink* | 14:59 |
| yofel | wipe the work dir and try again? | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | meh | 15:00 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, hmm doesn't work | 15:00 |
| yofel | ... | 15:00 |
| yofel | let me try | 15:00 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: where's the SRU bug? | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, SRU bug? | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | ? | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | ? | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 15:01 |
| yofel | oh ^^ | 15:01 |
| yofel | we need to document that | 15:01 |
| yofel | like bug 1094523 | 15:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1094523 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Quantal) "SRU tracking bug for KDE SC 4.9.5" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094523 | 15:02 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, ;O tell me earlier | 15:02 |
| yofel | sorry, we forgot -.- | 15:02 |
| smartboyhw | OK then | 15:02 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: the packages need to close that bug later for the SRU upload | 15:03 |
| yofel | so create it now and pass it in -m | 15:03 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, OK | 15:03 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, or rather, help me get done with the script first:P | 15:03 |
| yofel | uh, seems to work here | 15:04 |
| yofel | ./kubuntu-initial-upload -d raring -v 4.10.3 -m "New upstream bugfix release (LP: #XXX)" -t /tmp/4103/ --sru | 15:05 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no | 15:08 |
| smartboyhw | Just one line | 15:08 |
| smartboyhw | What? | 15:08 |
| yofel | that's how I call the script | 15:09 |
| yofel | and it works for me | 15:09 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, hack, it doesn't. | 15:09 |
| yofel | $ ./kubuntu-initial-upload -d raring -v 4.10.3 -m "New upstream bugfix release" -t /tmp/foo/ --sru | 15:09 |
| yofel | kdelibs-4.10.3.tar.xz 100% 11MB 3.8MB/s 00:03 | 15:09 |
| yofel | pull-lp-source: Downloading kde4libs version 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 | 15:09 |
| yofel | ... | 15:09 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, not in here | 15:09 |
| smartboyhw | At all | 15:09 |
| yofel | hm | 15:09 |
| yofel | weird that it doesn't show an error | 15:10 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no error at all | 15:10 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: how and where are you running it? | 15:10 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, almost the same as you | 15:10 |
| smartboyhw | Just the bug number changed | 15:11 |
| smartboyhw | Actually, is it impossible to run on my local computer? | 15:11 |
| yofel | not really, you'll just need a few GiB of network bandwidth | 15:12 |
| yofel | traffic rather | 15:12 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, uh | 15:12 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) | 15:12 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon | 15:12 |
| yofel | hey | 15:12 |
| lordievader | Hey yofel, how are? | 15:13 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: you did remove the temp dir contents? | 15:13 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yep | 15:13 |
| yofel | lordievader: busy with life and work lately, otherwise well | 15:13 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: I don't get it... | 15:13 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: can you scp something from ftpmaster yourself? | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, ? | 15:14 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: can you sftp into ftpmaster and download something there? | 15:15 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: and are you running the script in the kubuntu-automation checkout or somewhere else? | 15:15 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, checkout and trying to sftp | 15:15 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no | 15:16 |
| yofel | the *only* way for it to do nothing but what you see is when the list of packages is empty | 15:16 |
| smartboyhw | Permission denied | 15:16 |
| smartboyhw | ... | 15:16 |
| yofel | ... | 15:16 |
| * smartboyhw hates ssh key problems | 15:16 | |
| yofel | smartboyhw: sftp ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org | 15:16 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yep that's what I did | 15:16 |
| yofel | not good | 15:16 |
| smartboyhw | Permission denied (publickey) | 15:17 |
| smartboyhw | Oh Lord | 15:17 |
| smartboyhw | I'm running out of my 1.5-2 hour limit | 15:17 |
| yofel | uh | 15:17 |
| smartboyhw | meh | 15:17 |
| yofel | I see no key named howard chen on ftpmaster... | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, that's a chan ;P | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, and I can access it here | 15:18 |
| yofel | oops, sorry | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | I'm sure | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell added me in | 15:18 |
| yofel | ah, riddell named it differently... | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, eh? | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | How did he name it then? | 15:18 |
| yofel | usually you put #Name <email> as a comment | 15:19 |
| yofel | he did | 15:19 |
| yofel | #https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw | 15:19 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, LOL | 15:19 |
| yofel | but yeah, smartboyhw@smartboyhw-Compaq-Presario-CQ41-Notebook-PC is there | 15:19 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yep | 15:19 |
| smartboyhw | That's my SSH key | 15:19 |
| yofel | so that's not on the EC2 after all | 15:19 |
| yofel | .ssh/id_rsa probably | 15:19 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, grrr | 15:20 |
| smartboyhw | I'd really rather try uploading GBs rather than using EC2s. | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, how to shutdown EC2s? | 15:29 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, it doesn't work even on my local computer | 15:30 |
| smartboyhw | what? | 15:30 |
| smartboyhw | Permission denied | 15:30 |
| smartboyhw | again | 15:30 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: poweroff | 15:31 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: but you can login from the shell? | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, from dolphin yes | 15:31 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: then you forgot to set .ssh/config for the script maybe? | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, I did | 15:31 |
| yofel | then I don't know... add some debugging output to the script to find out where it fails | 15:32 |
| * smartboyhw thinks his ssh key is going into serious trouble | 15:32 | |
| yofel | does the key require a password and you're not using ssh-agent? | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yes that key has a passwd | 15:33 |
| smartboyhw | How to determine I'm using ssh-agent? | 15:34 |
| yofel | did you run ssh-add before running the script? | 15:34 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, what's ssh-add? | 15:34 |
| yofel | ssh-add — adds private key identities to the authentication agent | 15:34 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, oh | 15:35 |
| yofel | it prompts you for the password so that the key stays open | 15:35 |
| smartboyhw | damn that may be the problem | 15:35 |
| yofel | probably | 15:35 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, retrying | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | no | 15:36 |
| yofel | can you open 'sftp ftpmaster.kde.org' without any kind of prompt? | 15:36 |
| yofel | or ssh | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yes | 15:37 |
| smartboyhw | sftp | 15:37 |
| yofel | then I'm out of ideas :( | 15:37 |
| smartboyhw | meh | 15:37 |
| * smartboyhw gives up | 15:37 | |
| yofel | I'll run the script then | 15:37 |
| * smartboyhw condemns the whole complicated ssh concept | 15:38 | |
| smartboyhw | Thank you yofel:) | 15:38 |
| yofel | what's the sru bug? | 15:38 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, reply to the questions in email? | 15:38 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, Bug 1176358 | 15:38 |
| yofel | not yet, I'll do that later | 15:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1176358 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for KDE SC 4.10.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176358 | 15:38 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, :) | 15:38 |
| yofel | thanks | 15:38 |
| * smartboyhw cries:P | 15:39 | |
| yofel | at least it's skipping a lot ^^ | 15:41 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, LOL | 15:42 |
| yofel | grrr | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, ? | 15:45 |
| yofel | I never got around to fix the dep version update part | 15:46 |
| yofel | it just goes and bumps all packages in kdesc-dev-latest-raring.txt | 15:46 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, oh | 15:46 |
| yofel | so most packages will end up in dep-wait for packages that are never uploaded | 15:46 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, meh | 15:47 |
| yofel | needs manual fixing later for now | 15:47 |
| yofel | yay, script crashed because kdenetwork has a +dfsg suffix | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yay | 15:53 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 15:53 |
| yofel | ok, next try... | 15:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Nexus7/Installation#Manually_Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7 | 16:14 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: the new images fail to mount as well | 17:41 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: I think that depends on some subtle difference in the nexus version | 17:42 |
| Riddell | cos that's the case with one of mine but the other one gets as far as plymouth but then no X | 17:42 |
| ahoneybun | oh? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail | 17:42 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: you and valorie made a decision then to go with the wiki route? | 17:43 |
| ahoneybun | Yea it seems the best way for everyone | 17:43 |
| Riddell | good, a decision is made :) | 17:44 |
| Riddell | now feel free to take this apart | 17:44 |
| Riddell | like say this will be read by my mum "Linux is an operating system kernel that resembles the Unix operating system." is scary | 17:44 |
| Riddell | "Linux Basics" starting with command line is scary | 17:45 |
| === jjesse-home_ is now known as jjesse-home | ||
| Riddell | I think it should be more focused on common tasks "how do I set up my e-mail" or "how do I install firefox" etc | 17:46 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 17:46 |
| jjesse-home | the kubuntu docs basics page has always focused on the command line | 17:46 |
| jjesse-home | and also the filesystem | 17:47 |
| jjesse-home | not that it always being that way makes it right :) | 17:47 |
| jjesse-home | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/kubuntu-docs/saucy/view/head:/docs/basics/C/basics.xml | 17:48 |
| Riddell | I think that's fine to be in there but it shouldn't be the first chapter | 17:48 |
| Riddell | cor who made that saucy branch? | 17:49 |
| ahoneybun | thats the same as the one I am working from | 17:49 |
| Riddell | hmm I'm confused that's the import of the package in ubuntu, but I deleted the package in ubuntu | 17:50 |
| jjesse-home | i don't know maybe someone from the doc team? | 17:51 |
| jjesse-home | i have to confess i don't do much doc work these days anymore | 17:51 |
| jjesse-home | but thats what lp:kubuntu-docs points to | 17:52 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I have the 24 topics put into 4 main topics are I have it layed out so far, just I don't think it would look good if the page kept going on and on | 17:53 |
| yofel | xnox: bug 1163504 was only about removing the skype png's for kdenetwork and oxygen-icons, right? | 17:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1163504 in ktp-common-internals (Ubuntu Quantal) "Trademarked assets" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163504 | 17:55 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes | 17:56 |
| yofel | ok | 17:56 |
| Riddell | and ktp | 17:56 |
| Riddell | I need to remove those from upstream | 17:56 |
| yofel | that would be great | 17:57 |
| Riddell | replace rather than remove would be better | 17:58 |
| skellat | I did some opening edits to xubuntu-docs that could be used to build off of for kubuntu-docs including our offline package management chapter: https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/ | 17:59 |
| * skellat wanders back to the Federal Communications Commission report he was reading | 18:02 | |
| yofel | great... kdelibs has missing symbols | 18:04 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: you said to upload the images to the wiki? | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | I still can't flash the userdata partition on Riddell's Nexus 7 | 18:39 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: does it freeze? | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | trying to flash it for the third time :S | 19:07 |
| ahoneybun | do fastboot flash -S 256M userdata /path/to/.img | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | what does that do ? | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | sends it in smaller parts? | 19:09 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 19:09 |
| ahoneybun | not as much of a overload | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | ah makes sense | 19:09 |
| ahoneybun | gets it on to the n7 but I still have problems with it mounting the /root | 19:10 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: there should be a omgkubuntu.com lol | 19:14 |
| ahoneybun | maybe I should make the wiki kinda like this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide | 19:25 |
| ahoneybun | how is it going shadeslayer? | 19:51 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: You don't love Telepathy KDE anymore? :( | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: it flashed | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: I was playing some table tennis :P | 20:03 |
| ahoneybun | what lol | 20:05 |
| ahoneybun | Quintasan: I think it is nice but just needs more integation into the desktop like GNOME has | 20:05 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: why do you think I'm sitting at the opposite end of the table from d_ed | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Ask him to implement renaming contacts :P | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: >The membership status of Jonathan Riddell (jr) in the team Telepathy KDE | 20:10 |
| Quintasan | (telepathy-kde) was changed by the user from Approved to Deactivated. | 20:10 |
| Quintasan | :( | 20:10 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: what's the username / password for the N7? | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | Darkwing: Y U CUT UR HAIR | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/UsingTheDevice | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | You looked like a rock band drummer with long hair dude | 20:19 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: I'm not sure I thought that you set that up in the installer | 20:21 |
| ahoneybun | that and I could never get that far | 20:22 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | not really | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | I have a login screen | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | using screen + /dev/ttyACM0 | 20:24 |
| ahoneybun | I'm stuck at it telling it can't mount /root | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | huh | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | I just used the img files from cdimage.ubuntu.com | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | and it does boot | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | except that it shows nothing on the screen | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | just like the N10 | 20:27 |
| ahoneybun | I get text | 20:28 |
| ahoneybun | saying "mount | 20:29 |
| ahoneybun | "mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p9 on /root failed: Invalid argument | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/04/plasma-desktopc14045.png | 20:29 |
| ahoneybun | It tells me there is no such file or directory | 20:30 |
| ahoneybun | anyway I got to go to work bbl | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: shadeslayer is weak, it's 1am and he is going to bed................. | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | and there is still beer available...... | 23:08 |
| shadeslayer | sleeeepyyy | 23:08 |
| shadeslayer | and I have a presentation tomorrow | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | I had one today and I went to bed when the sun was rising again :P | 23:09 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 23:09 |
| valorie | you know what happens when you burn the candle at both ends | 23:10 |
| valorie | you end up with a short candle | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | oO | 23:11 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think you're left with a candle | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | that sounds sexual, but weird | 23:11 |
| valorie | lol | 23:11 |
| valorie | me, weird? | 23:11 |
| valorie | never | 23:11 |
| sreich | definitely sexual. | 23:41 |
| valorie | that I never denied | 23:45 |
| valorie | lol | 23:45 |
| valorie | off to dinner..... | 23:45 |
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