[00:03] <rick_h_> jcastro: is juju/lxc/raring all happy?
[00:03] <rick_h_> hoping to start doing all my charms locally when the destkop arrives
[00:04] <rick_h_> jcastro: and saw your thing in G+ about a microserver alt and wondering if it's for that kind of stuff or something else
[00:04] <jcastro> no local provider in goju
[00:04] <jcastro> so like ~ a month?
[00:04] <jcastro> everything else is peachy
[00:04] <rick_h_> :( crap
[00:04] <rick_h_> k, good to know before I go trying it
[00:05] <jcastro> yeah so the workaround
[00:05] <rick_h_> but it's in pyjuju right?
[00:05] <jcastro> (you won't like this)
[00:05] <jcastro> is update-alternatives between pyju and goju
[00:05] <rick_h_> actually haven't run/tried gojuju yet, just know the gui runs on it
[00:05] <jcastro> no pyju
[00:05] <jcastro> we flipped the switch
[00:05] <jcastro> cortez burned ships
[00:05] <jcastro> caesar crossed the rubicon
[00:05] <jcastro> you play the game of thrones to win or die
[00:05] <rick_h_> orly? I setup my machine today and was doing py stuff
[00:05] <jcastro> and so on
[00:05] <rick_h_> pyzookeeper and such for the gui dev work
[00:06] <jcastro> oh
[00:06] <jcastro> if you do "apt-get install juju" yeah
[00:06] <jcastro> but the instructions, etc all say "apt-get install juju-core"
[00:06] <rick_h_> k, I'll have to remember to bring things check in with peeps next week on the right way to work on stuff these days
[00:06] <jcastro> yeah so we had a bunch of new people in the charm school today
[00:06] <jcastro> so stuff is working
[00:06] <jcastro> marco couldn't get the gui to deploy but no idea what the problem is
[00:06] <jcastro> figure we'll just try on monday lol
[00:07] <rick_h_> hmmm, I know they had a breakage this week but thought it was all good. it's all tested and such
[00:07] <jcastro> tested on goju?
[00:07] <rick_h_> I know I did a deploy to ec2 for a test demo
[00:07] <jcastro> yeah, he had other problems
[00:07] <rick_h_> ah, well right, that's the question. I know their release works on gojuju
[00:07] <jcastro> so it could have been a localized problem
[00:07] <rick_h_> but I think I only did it on pyjuju
[00:08] <jcastro> so goju is like mostly there
[00:08] <jcastro> enough to be like, if there's a bug you at least know there's someone there to fix it
[00:08] <rick_h_> k
[00:08] <jcastro> for most people feature parity is there
[00:08] <jcastro> just the summer to clean up a bit
[00:08] <rick_h_> hoping with the desktop to start imersing myself in stuff more
[00:08] <jcastro> and then fall on it's all unlimited sky ...
[00:09] <rick_h_> cool
[00:09] <jcastro> man dude
[00:09] <jcastro> your shit looks so nice with the icons
[00:09] <jcastro> people are going to lick it up
[00:09] <rick_h_> https://ec2-23-20-230-72.compute-1.amazonaws.com/ is the latest demo
[00:09] <rick_h_> gary is just updating it as we speak for oakland with the changes from this week
[00:10] <jcastro> I UNDERSTAND THE RISKS
[00:10] <rick_h_> with the browser work in there ootb and such
[00:10] <rick_h_> heh, FF?
[00:10] <jcastro> yeah
[00:10] <jcastro> I had to, chrome is a crashy mess lately
[00:10] <jcastro> https://ec2-23-20-230-72.compute-1.amazonaws.com/sidebar/precise/ceph-8/
[00:10] <jcastro> that looks so hot.
[00:10] <jcastro> hey, the     cs:precise/ceph-8
[00:10] <jcastro> the -8
[00:10] <jcastro> is a revision or something?
[00:11] <rick_h_> yea, so the idea is that we'll be able to load info from charms deployed in the environment, local charms, etc
[00:11] <rick_h_> and the rev is important
[00:11] <rick_h_> and to allow us to pull data from the charm store on old revs. Right now we only keep the latest, but we want to support old data
[00:11] <jcastro> yeah I just don't dig it in the URL
[00:11] <rick_h_> so you can put this in your environment, and click on mysql and see you've deployed cs:precise/mysql-10, but there's cs:precise/mysql-12 out
[00:12] <rick_h_> well, it's tough because we want urls to be sharable
[00:12] <jcastro> so why is the revision in the url out of curiosity
[00:12] <rick_h_> if I copy/paste the url and it's mysql v10 and send it to you and it loads mysql v12
[00:12] <rick_h_> the stuff could read/be different
[00:12] <jcastro> you'd think ".../precise/ceph" is what you want
[00:12] <jcastro> oh oh
[00:12] <jcastro> I see what you mean
[00:12] <rick_h_> we specifically want any url to load the same when shared
[00:12] <jcastro> but you got it so the rel="canonical" is just /ceph right?
[00:12] <rick_h_> very important with things like social sharing, etc
[00:13] <rick_h_> https://ec2-23-20-230-72.compute-1.amazonaws.com/precise/ceph-1
[00:13] <jcastro> yeah I was just worried about getting wailed on by google for multiple similar content in the same domain
[00:14] <rick_h_> yea, not sure what to do about that.
[00:14] <jcastro> I think lp knows how to do that
[00:14] <jcastro> I'll bring it up in the metrics session
[00:15] <rick_h_> yea, we can do some research
[00:15] <rick_h_> we're just working off priority of urls being very very sharable as a bit requirement
[00:15] <jcastro> nod
[00:15] <jcastro> I agree with all of that
[00:15] <jcastro> the urls are nice
[00:15] <jcastro> I mean, make fun of launchpad all you want, the URL scheme is fucking awesome
[00:16] <jcastro> you can just url hack all you want
[00:16] <jcastro> and it just works
[00:17] <rick_h_> yea, there's still some work to do on it but it's a solid start
[00:17] <rick_h_> hopefully demo goes well in oakland and people are happy
[00:17] <jcastro> we'll be fine
[00:17] <rick_h_> we'll be working on it next 6mo as well so lots more to do
[00:17] <jcastro> you're no more doomed than me
[00:17] <jcastro> mramm is probably doomed more. :p
[00:17] <rick_h_> heh, I'd like to try to avoid doomed at all if possible
[00:18]  * rick_h_ isn't used to having to worry about doomed :P
[00:18] <jcastro> meh it's all good
[02:18] <snap-l> btw: is anyone up for doing a what's new in raring for MUG on the 14th?
[13:48] <tjagoda> Hurr
[13:58] <rick_h_> hurr?
[15:21] <snap-l> hurr
[15:23] <tjagoda> ohi
[15:36] <jrwren> harr
[18:24] <snap-l> Fuck comcast
[18:24] <snap-l> y
[18:25] <snap-l> really hate dealing with them andtheir not knowing what they are doing
[18:50] <snap-l> gah
[20:04] <snap-l> Whew. MOved JoDee's dad into another room at this assisted living place.
[23:40] <tjagoda> snap-l I love comcast ever since they gave me 50Mb for the price of 25