| Kilos | morning all, early hey magespawn | 06:20 |
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| Kilos | hows your hotel fix stanfing up | 06:20 |
| Kilos | standing | 06:20 |
| Kilos | quick reboot afte upgrading | 06:36 |
| Kilos | wbb | 06:36 |
| Kilos | hmm... reboots much faster with sudo reboot than via the shutdown way | 06:40 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide everyone else is still sleeping | 07:05 |
| Kilos | or gone shopping | 07:06 |
| Cantide | lol | 07:08 |
| Cantide | i'm going shopping soon :) | 07:08 |
| Cantide | good morning :p | 07:08 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:08 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:24 |
| Vince-0 | morn | 07:32 |
| Vince-0 | bbl! Ubuntu launch time - I'll get on IRC on the mobile | 07:32 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Trixar_za | Come on 8ta, show me those wifi locations. I know it's free from the site | 08:44 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, hows your 8ta speed now? mine is much better | 08:46 |
| Kilos | helps to fone and complain | 08:46 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah mine too | 08:46 |
| Trixar_za | Since around yesterday | 08:46 |
| Kilos | ya | 08:46 |
| Trixar_za | lol | 08:49 |
| Trixar_za | You're kidding me | 08:49 |
| Trixar_za | I'm not IN the block of coverage | 08:49 |
| Trixar_za | But if I'm in the middle of Brackenfell, then I am | 08:50 |
| Kilos | eish | 08:52 |
| Trixar_za | 8ta keeps giving me free wifi data, but I can't use it :/ | 08:54 |
| Trixar_za | Well, at least this is an excuse to go to Cape Gate | 08:54 |
| Trixar_za | Even if it's just to use Wifi :P | 08:54 |
| Kilos | ya that sucks | 08:54 |
| Kilos | ive lost a few free 2g ones | 08:55 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos, how are doing on this Saterday morning? ;) | 08:58 |
| Kilos | hi georgelappies good ty and you? | 08:59 |
| georgelappies | good thanks, need to studying but yeah, difficult to get the wheel in motion as they say | 09:00 |
| Kilos | study all you can lad. its the rest of your life you are studying for | 09:02 |
| georgelappies | thanks Kilos, is true what you say, spoken like a sage ;) | 09:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:03 |
| Kilos | knowledge is power | 09:04 |
| Kilos | remastersys makes a lekker livedvd same as booting from your drive just slower | 09:45 |
| Symmetria | Ullo all | 10:06 |
| * Symmetria got himself a new phone :) | 10:06 | |
| Kilos | hi Symmetria | 10:06 |
| Symmetria | heh went and bought an S4 this morning, am happy, coupla hours into it and can already see a noticeable improvement on S3 battery life | 10:06 |
| Symmetria | which was primary reason for buying the thing | 10:06 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| inetpro | good morning, err is it afternoon already? | 10:57 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 10:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why you still keep breaking your system? | 10:58 |
| Kilos | not me man but its fixed without a clean install and working kiff | 10:58 |
| inetpro | 03/05 20:41:24 <Kilos> kde makes me gray | 10:59 |
| Kilos | oh because it first lost its gui when i tried to make a remastersys dvd | 10:59 |
| Kilos | unity just worked | 10:59 |
| Kilos | but now kde is fixed | 11:00 |
| Kilos | lots purging and stuff | 11:00 |
| Kilos | then installs of the x stuff | 11:00 |
| inetpro | what is this remastersys all about and why you even doing that? | 11:00 |
| inetpro | it's not even in the repos | 11:00 |
| Kilos | because it works | 11:01 |
| inetpro | ai! | 11:01 |
| Kilos | tired of doing installs and having no 3g | 11:01 |
| Kilos | it makes a live dvd of you working system man | 11:01 |
| inetpro | and then? | 11:02 |
| inetpro | according to his website the guy ".. decided to stop development of remastersys and it will no longer be available" | 11:05 |
| inetpro | the guy called Tony | 11:08 |
| Kilos | its been carried on and works well | 11:08 |
| Kilos | i have kde and unity dvd's working | 11:08 |
| inetpro | yep looks like Roberto is porting it and it will in future be called System Imager | 11:09 |
| inetpro | on his own distro called OS4 | 11:10 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:13 |
| Kilos | see you always fight me first | 11:13 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:13 |
| Kilos | i may be stupid but im not a fool | 11:13 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:13 |
| inetpro | I still don't see why you would really want a live dvd of your system | 11:20 |
| inetpro | things change all the time | 11:20 |
| Kilos | so if necessary i can install 12.04 without the 3g hassles | 11:20 |
| inetpro | but surely by now your system should be running stable | 11:21 |
| Kilos | yes three of them | 11:21 |
| Kilos | maverick 12.04 kde and unity | 11:22 |
| Kilos | crashes do happen with our power probs and mistakes we make and drives packing up | 11:24 |
| Kilos | so good to have a quick dvd install of you working OS | 11:26 |
| Kilos | dont you think? | 11:26 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 11:27 |
| Kilos | s/you/your | 11:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hmm... | 11:27 |
| Maaz | hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking | 11:27 |
| inetpro | a fresh install should take less than 20 minutes | 11:27 |
| inetpro | unlike the 5 hours on Windows | 11:27 |
| Kilos | yes then updating upgrading | 11:28 |
| Kilos | then rsyncing packages | 11:28 |
| Kilos | much quicker to install the working os and then it bypasses any probs you had with a clean install | 11:29 |
| inetpro | ok maybe you have a point, but I haven't had even 5% of the trouble that you seem to have had | 11:30 |
| Kilos | ya i know | 11:30 |
| Kilos | mine was only 3g with 12.04 | 11:30 |
| Kilos | modem even works with 13.04 | 11:30 |
| Kilos | only 12.04 has probs with this modem and nm | 11:31 |
| inetpro | so have you dealt with the privacy stuff on 13.04 yet? | 11:31 |
| Kilos | my kde remastersys dvd is 3.8g big | 11:31 |
| Kilos | nope dont like it too much so will stay with 12.04 till 14.04 | 11:32 |
| Kilos | maybe just look at 13.10 | 11:32 |
| inetpro | ok | 11:32 |
| Kilos | i actually enjoy 12.04 in both flavours | 11:35 |
| Kilos | but unity is faster thasn kde | 11:36 |
| Kilos | than | 11:36 |
| * inetpro doesn't care about faster as much as about functionality | 11:45 | |
| inetpro | my kde is more than fast enough | 11:45 |
| Kilos | hehe i dunno how to use that functioanilty to its best | 11:46 |
| Kilos | but i like kde so stop nagging | 11:46 |
| * inetpro nagging? Never! | 11:47 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:47 |
| Kilos | go catch your chicken eater | 11:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: perhaps all you actually need is a modern wifi router | 11:50 |
| Kilos | ya maybe | 11:51 |
| Kilos | but would prefer a faster pc then i wont look for faster flavours | 11:52 |
| inetpro | anyway I see superfly also had some troubles yesterday and I would love to know more about what he actually did there | 11:53 |
| Kilos | yeah i read that as it was happening. very interesting | 11:53 |
| inetpro | superfly: would be nice if you could give a slight bit of more detail | 11:54 |
| Kilos | used the fone as a bridge | 11:54 |
| inetpro | these android phones of ours are truely amazing these days | 11:55 |
| Kilos | looks like | 11:55 |
| inetpro | the tethering functionality has been a life saver on many occasions | 11:56 |
| Kilos | lol half or more of what they said i dint understand | 11:57 |
| Kilos | didnt | 11:57 |
| inetpro | my best experience was when I was able to help American friends to get online during a conference last year | 11:57 |
| Kilos | but was lekker to see them work their way around the prob | 11:57 |
| Kilos | you okes are too clever | 11:58 |
| Kilos | cant be good for the head methinks | 11:58 |
| inetpro | it really is just a press of a single button | 11:59 |
| inetpro | I have it as a shortcut on my homescreen | 11:59 |
| Kilos | wow | 12:00 |
| inetpro | all you need is a data bundle and a good signal | 12:01 |
| Kilos | is your 8ta better too? | 12:02 |
| inetpro | a wifi router in your pocket | 12:02 |
| Kilos | mine is going well again and they contacted me and are sending a technician to the tower to get a better signal to me | 12:03 |
| inetpro | haven't noticed a difference really | 12:03 |
| Kilos | i got up to 195 mB/s i think it was | 12:04 |
| inetpro | but wow! Just did a speedtest and it's 4.9Mbps at the moment | 12:04 |
| Kilos | 295 | 12:04 |
| Kilos | thats lekker | 12:04 |
| Kilos | what speetest do you use | 12:04 |
| inetpro | normally is just under 1Mbps in the evening | 12:04 |
| inetpro | I used yours now | 12:05 |
| inetpro | normally use http://www.speedtest.net/ | 12:05 |
| Kilos | mine went up from 1mb/s to 2.3 mb/s | 12:05 |
| Kilos | oh ya thats what they told me to use | 12:05 |
| inetpro | eish! | 12:17 |
| inetpro | just tried my vodacom hotspot speed.... getting less than 0.1Mbps at the moment | 12:18 |
| Kilos | eish | 12:19 |
| Kilos | eek mine is down to .83 mb/s | 12:21 |
| Kilos | more fone calls monday | 12:22 |
| zeref | tumbleweed: | 13:15 |
| zeref | anybody done some .deb packaging? | 13:32 |
| * inetpro just tested tethering via USB cable for the first time | 13:57 | |
| inetpro | just plugged in the cable, enabled USB tethering and voila... pc connected to the interwebs via interface usb0 automagically | 13:57 |
| inetpro | this is magic! | 13:57 |
| inetpro | thought I would have to do some configuration | 13:58 |
| inetpro | and it even looks like the cable improves the signal on the phone | 13:59 |
| inetpro | this will be my preferred fallback option from here onwards | 14:00 |
| Kilos | whats tetherning inetpro | 14:02 |
| Kilos | thethering | 14:02 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:02 |
| Kilos | tethering | 14:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Tethering refers to connecting one device to another | 14:05 |
| inetpro | In the context of mobile phones or Internet tablets, tethering allows sharing the Internet connection of the phone or tablet with other devices such as laptops. | 14:05 |
| Kilos | oh not just the normal connect to internet option on the older fones when you plugin the usb cable | 14:06 |
| Kilos | something more advanced | 14:06 |
| zeref | inetpro: ever done .deb packaging? | 14:07 |
| inetpro | zeref: not really | 14:07 |
| inetpro | zeref: tumbleweed and superfly are the big guns here re packaging but what is your question | 14:08 |
| Kilos | oh zeref there was a whole class on that one night on ubntu-classroom | 14:09 |
| zeref | k, I'd like to package an program from 13.04 and backport for the othere release | 14:09 |
| inetpro | Ubuntu Packaging Guide http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ | 14:09 |
| zeref | I'vei've packaged before | 14:09 |
| zeref | just need to ask about backporting | 14:10 |
| inetpro | http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/backports.html | 14:10 |
| Kilos | koud ne inetpro ? | 14:11 |
| zeref | yeah been there | 14:11 |
| zeref | does not really tell me what i need | 14:11 |
| zeref | :-( | 14:11 |
| tumbleweed | zeref: what do you need? | 14:11 |
| Kilos | then wait for tumbleweed zeref thats his game | 14:11 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:11 |
| Kilos | speak of the devil | 14:12 |
| inetpro | zeref: perhaps you should to ask at #ubuntu-packaging | 14:12 |
| tumbleweed | backporting is just a matter of building for the older release, and using a sligtly lower version (to smoothly upgrade away from the backport) | 14:12 |
| tumbleweed | for easy packages, backportpackage in ubuntu-dev-tools can do it all automatically | 14:13 |
| inetpro | s/perhaps you should to ask at/perhaps you could ask at/ | 14:13 |
| zeref | so tumbleweed do I change that in debian/changelog? | 14:14 |
| tumbleweed | zeref: yes | 14:15 |
| zeref | so eesentially packaging 1 application twice? | 14:16 |
| zeref | just change changelog from precise to say raring? | 14:16 |
| tumbleweed | that's the opposite of a backport | 14:17 |
| tumbleweed | raring is newer than precise | 14:17 |
| zeref | soz, i meant raring to the lower releases | 14:18 |
| tumbleweed | so, yes | 14:18 |
| tumbleweed | and put something like ~precise1 at the end of the version | 14:18 |
| zeref | cool, thanks tumbleweed | 14:19 |
| Kilos | hi Mezenir hubx | 15:00 |
| Mezenir | hi kilos | 15:04 |
| Symmetria | sup | 17:01 |
| charl | good evening | 17:26 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 17:26 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 17:26 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 17:30 |
| charl | Maaz: dankeschon | 17:30 |
| Maaz | charl: Excuse me? | 17:30 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 17:30 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 17:31 |
| charl | how's it going | 17:31 |
| Kilos | good ty and you | 17:31 |
| charl | good good | 17:31 |
| charl | just came back from a little anime convention in my region | 17:32 |
| charl | was watching some of the newer anime series on a projector screen | 17:32 |
| Kilos | ah | 17:32 |
| charl | and good sound, but it's all stuff i've already seen | 17:32 |
| Symmetria | hrm | 17:33 |
| Symmetria | any whisky fans here? | 17:33 |
| Kilos | eeek | 17:33 |
| charl | not here, i only drink beer | 17:34 |
| Kilos | that stink stuff | 17:34 |
| * Symmetria is trying this new whisky and cant decide if he loves it or hates it lol | 17:34 | |
| Symmetria | http://www.glenmorangie.com/our-whiskies/signet | 17:34 |
| charl | he how difficult can it be :) | 17:34 |
| charl | that looks like fancy stuff | 17:34 |
| Symmetria | heh charl difficult :) when you drink a fair number of fine whiskys you get kinda particular | 17:35 |
| Kilos | if one can aquire a taste for that one can aquire a taste for dog droppings too | 17:35 |
| Kilos | save on food bill | 17:35 |
| Kilos | oh sorry Symmetria | 17:35 |
| Symmetria | lol | 17:36 |
| charl | lol!!! am watching http://youtu.be/wJETdagRMuk | 17:37 |
| charl | the guy has a funny twitch in his left eye | 17:37 |
| Kilos | wb georgelappies | 17:38 |
| georgelappies | thanks Kilos | 17:38 |
| Kilos | yw | 17:38 |
| Kilos | did you study lots? | 17:39 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 17:42 |
| charl | hi magespawn | 17:42 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:43 |
| magespawn | hey charl Kilos | 17:43 |
| magespawn | how do we ask Maaz if a site is up? | 17:44 |
| Kilos | oh my | 17:45 |
| Kilos | is it down | 17:45 |
| Kilos | is link down | 17:45 |
| magespawn | trying that now | 17:45 |
| Kilos | or up | 17:45 |
| Kilos | i forget | 17:45 |
| Symmetria | http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey1.jpg <=== so awesome (be warned, that photo is *large*) | 17:46 |
| trender | yo Symmetria dude take some chick photos man | 17:47 |
| magespawn | Maaz help | 17:47 |
| Maaz | magespawn: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. | 17:47 |
| Maaz | Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. | 17:47 |
| magespawn | Maaz help me with looking things up | 17:47 |
| Maaz | magespawn: I use the following features for looking things up: apt-file, aptitude, bash, bible, dict, distance, dns, factoid, feeds, fml, fortune, google, help, imdb, lastfm, lotto, mac, man, microblog, mlia, oeis, ports, rfc, seen, tfln, tinyurl, tld, translate, tvshow, unicode, weather and youtube | 17:47 |
| Maaz | Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. | 17:47 |
| Kilos | magespawn, whats the link | 17:48 |
| Symmetria | http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey3.jpg <=== thats another awesome (huge) photo | 17:49 |
| magespawn | the website isitdown says the site i need is down | 17:49 |
| magespawn | my.unisa.ac.za | 17:49 |
| Kilos | you can try QA too hey | 17:49 |
| Kilos | sometimes maaz gets a bit sick | 17:49 |
| magespawn | Symmetria: i'll look on the morrow when back on incapped adsl | 17:50 |
| magespawn | s/in/un | 17:50 |
| Symmetria | lol, yeah smart move, those photos are 12 or 15 meg big each | 17:52 |
| Symmetria | only reason I didnt scale em down before uploading em, is when you zoom in the detail and stuff is so awesome to look at | 17:52 |
| Symmetria | lol, you can see the reflection of things in its eyes its so clear | 17:52 |
| Kilos | magespawn, the command is maaz is "link" down | 17:54 |
| Kilos | if not he says no its just you | 17:54 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:54 |
| magespawn | Maaz is my.unisa.ac.za down | 17:55 |
| magespawn | or maybe | 17:56 |
| magespawn | Maaz is my.unisa.ac.za down ? | 17:56 |
| Kilos | <QA> Yes, http://my.unisa.ac.za/ is down (Server is not responding) | 17:57 |
| charl | magespawn: http://www.isup.me/ | 17:57 |
| Kilos | no ? after | 17:57 |
| charl | or http://www.isup.me/my.unisa.ac.za in this case | 17:57 |
| Symmetria | hrm is unisa's internet link up by their graphs? | 17:58 |
| magespawn | thanks guys | 17:58 |
| charl | seems like it http://protea.tenet.ac.za/mrtg-new/unisa-mc-ipnet-bb.html | 17:58 |
| Symmetria | wow, unisa been down for 12 hours | 17:58 |
| Symmetria | charl that graph is ancient | 17:59 |
| Symmetria | look at graphs.tenet.ac.za | 17:59 |
| Symmetria | tenet 77 | 17:59 |
| charl | oh sorry only saw now | 17:59 |
| Symmetria | tsn 77 I mean | 17:59 |
| charl | the main campus? | 18:00 |
| charl | looks very down | 18:00 |
| Symmetria | yeah its down | 18:02 |
| Symmetria | looks like multiple fiber breaks on the pretoria north fiber ring | 18:02 |
| magespawn | how do you tell Symmetria ? | 18:06 |
| Symmetria | magespawn because its constructed on a ring, mpls ring | 18:11 |
| Symmetria | and since the provider edge router is up by the graphs | 18:11 |
| Symmetria | either unisa has lost power entirely (unlikely, that stuff is heavily ups backed up) | 18:11 |
| Symmetria | or there is a dual break on the ring | 18:11 |
| magespawn | hectic | 18:13 |
| Symmetria | lol most people wouldnt be able to tell that stuff just from graphs, I have the advantage of the fact that I designed that network and deployed it | 18:13 |
| Symmetria | so its easy to tell from a glance whats likely broken | 18:14 |
| magespawn | somebody stealing the fiber? | 18:18 |
| Symmetria | could be, or road works or something | 18:24 |
| Kilos | night all . sleep tight | 19:18 |
| voyager_za | Kilos: thanks for trying to get in touch with me about the release party | 20:03 |
| Vince-0 | Kilos is away | 20:10 |
| voyager_za | I realised that afterwards... no matter | 20:22 |
| superfly | inetpro: http://christianoss.org/blog/2013/05/04/quick-easy-workaround-broken-networking-linux | 21:27 |
| inetpro | superfly: nice posting | 21:29 |
| inetpro | superfly: but just to be sure, you just enabled tethering via USB? | 21:30 |
| superfly | yup | 21:30 |
| inetpro | and the other uncertainty I had, did you have no GUI at all? | 21:30 |
| inetpro | in other words USB tethering works perfectly even in the most basic cli mode? | 21:31 |
| inetpro | superfly: ^^ | 21:32 |
| superfly | inetpro: no, I got to lightdm, KDE didn't want to start up | 21:32 |
| inetpro | ahh | 21:32 |
| superfly | inetpro: networkmanager is a service, doesn't need a GUI | 21:32 |
| superfly | even if you don't have a GUI on Ubuntu/Kubuntu, you'll still have nm running | 21:33 |
| inetpro | sounds like something I would need to test | 21:33 |
| Tonberry_ | does ubuntu server actually run network manager? | 21:33 |
| superfly | then normally you can use nmcli to connect, but because my dbus installation was messed up, and nm uses dbus, nothing worked | 21:33 |
| superfly | Tonberry_: I'm not sure | 21:34 |
| inetpro | always good to know that you can get to the interwebs in a worst case scenario | 21:34 |
| Tonberry_ | i usually just configure everything in /etc/network/interfaces so even if network manager is there it would not do much | 21:34 |
| superfly | Tonberry_: on my desktop I'm happy to let nm do its thing | 21:35 |
| Tonberry_ | same | 21:35 |
| voyager_za | superfly: interesting... I've had to resort to nmcli to get my 3g modem working without gui. | 21:41 |
| superfly | voyager_za: nmcli wasn't working for me at all due to afforementioned dbus issue | 21:42 |
| voyager_za | ah... missed that. | 21:44 |
| superfly | night all | 21:50 |
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