[00:00] <yofun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630771/
[00:01] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630772/
[00:01] <zipace> Jordan_U: slight correction though, just issuing "mount" usually does the trick, no need to fiddle in /proc :-)
[00:01] <yofun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630771/ zipace  and Jordan_U
[00:01] <ChuckNorrisInmor> more python 2.7 errors -.-
[00:02] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: did you install imagemagick first? because it looks like uniconverter alias'd "convert" to "uniconverter" (the command "convert" is used by imagemagick otherwise)
[00:02] <Jordan_U> zipace: mount's output depends on /etc/mtab whereas /proc/mounts comes straight from the kernel. They usually match, but there are odd instances when /etc/mtab is out of sync.
[00:02] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: yes i did
[00:02] <zipace> Jordan_U: ah, good to know
[00:02] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: assuming you already filed the bug for uniconverter, you can uninstall it, which would clear the alias as well
[00:03] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: yes just gonna write that
[00:03] <ChuckNorrisInmor> i'll uninstall it
[00:03] <yofun> zipace:  or Jordan_U  anything?
[00:04] <zipace> yofun: according to the paste /dev/sda is indeed unused, not sure where the error comes from
[00:05] <yofun> hmmmm :/ anything else?
[00:05] <Cogy> hi
[00:05] <Cogy> need help here
[00:06] <Cogy> i have ubuntu 12.04
[00:06] <Cogy> and i want to change the desktop to KDE
[00:06] <Cogy> i try to get it fromterminal
[00:06] <donvito2> Graphic Intel 82915G/GV/910GL has no driver for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[00:06] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: yep, definetily "convert" calls "uniconvertor"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630780/
[00:06] <Jordan_U> yofun: Please post (or pastebin if it's more than one line) the output of "sudo fuser /dev/sda".
[00:06] <zipace> yofun: sorry, no clue, but maybe other may know, just stick around
[00:07] <ChuckNorrisInmor> this time i uninstalled it :P
[00:07] <Cogy> where can i get the kde??
[00:07] <Cogy> i can't find it
[00:07] <moppers> cogy does 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' then relog and change to KDE at the login screen work?
[00:07] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: wow, ok, uniconverter is in dire need of fixing
[00:08] <yofun>  /dev/sda:             4667 Jordan_U
[00:08] <ChuckNorrisInmor> yep
[00:08] <Jordan_U> yofun: ps aux | grep 4667 | grep -v grep
[00:08] <Jordan_U> yofun: I'll bet you're already running badblocks.
[00:08] <yofun> lol
[00:08] <yofun> root      4667  0.3  0.0  17880   812 pts/0    D+   May03   0:05 badblocks -v /dev/sda
[00:08] <yofun> yep
[00:09] <Cogy> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[00:09] <CHubU_> Hi folks
[00:09] <donvito2> Graphic Intel 82915G/GV/910GL has no driver for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[00:09] <yofun> lol i didnt think i couldnt run two different badblocks at the same time
[00:09] <yofun> meh
[00:09] <Cogy> when i type the command
[00:09] <johnjohn1011> is there a seperate channel for kde on winders?
[00:10] <Cogy> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[00:10] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: when i tryed to file the bug "launchpad" web page said "No valid Open ID" or something like that
[00:10] <johnjohn1011> wrong window
[00:10] <Cogy> Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:10] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: yeah, you need to register an account for launchpad.net
[00:10] <Cogy> the tutorial onyoutube not help
[00:10] <yofun> ok Jordan_U  i closed it but now its still showing the error
[00:10] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: it's quick and easy, and you can later use it as OpenID login for sites that support it
[00:11] <Jordan_U> yofun: How did you close it?
[00:11] <yofun> Jordan_U:  i closed the other termial
[00:11] <ChuckNorrisInmor> lo) i think i had one, but... i don't remember my crdentials :P
[00:11] <johnjohn1011> entering ubuntu bugs is fun!  better get an id
[00:11] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: if you remember your email address, you can recover your credentials
[00:12] <ChuckNorrisInmor> ok, ill try
[00:12] <yofun> Jordan_U:  now sudo fuser /dev/sda shows nothing
[00:13] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: and i did read somthing like opening .cdr files with gimp :P but i didn't read enough :Pç
[00:13] <yofun> brb
[00:13] <ChuckNorrisInmor> cya
[00:13] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: it's always worth a try though
[00:14] <ChuckNorrisInmor> yeh
[00:14] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: you might want to save the file as svg though, so you can access it with other image editors as well
[00:14] <yofun> Jordan_U:  let me guess restarting the livecd is the best way to fix it?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> yofun: What is the exact output of your badblocks command if you run it again now?
[00:16] <yofun> Jordan_U: /dev/sda is apparently in use by the system; it's not safe to run badblocks!
[00:16] <ChuckNorrisInmor> zipace: yep i know, the guy i am helping said that he managed .cdr files with photoshop, but then they loss the vectorisation
[00:17] <ChuckNorrisInmor> so... idk if gimp could do it better idk, maybe i will try
[00:18] <yofun> Jordan_U:  im going to restart the livecd
[00:20] <jaishriraam> Folks how do you rate the new ringtail?
[00:20] <MonkeyDust> !poll | jaishriraam
[00:21] <jaishriraam> Nope. Just on the process of upgrading from 12.10
[00:21] <jaishriraam> Was curious if anyone tried and found any major issues
[00:21] <ddsss> what the difference between nvidia 173, 304, 304-updates, 310, 313-updates nvidia drivers? i'm super confused.
[00:21] <ChuckNorrisInmor> anyway thx zipace, i use ubuntu from 8.10 xD i know enough, but this .cdr won me xD i am pretty thankful with ubuntu 13.04:  this is my 12.10:  http://i.imgur.com/1MNiUdb.jpg
[00:21] <johnjohn1011> jaishriraam: i love the new 13.05
[00:22] <donvito2> how to install only kde without that kubuntu stuffs
[00:22] <moppers> 13.04 seems better except for nautilus. unity finally has a working task switcher - that was the last thing i needed
[00:22] <jaishriraam> donvito: use the KDE installer after u install vanilla ubuntu
[00:22] <zipace> ChuckNorrisInmor: ubuntu 8.10 is veeeeeeery old though ;-)
[00:22] <moppers> nautilus is better now for random users, worse for power users
[00:23] <ChuckNorrisInmor> yep
[00:23] <jaishriraam> agree
[00:23]  * zipace remembers 6.04... good times
[00:23] <moppers> but that'snot a problem, a power user can install a different file manager or something
[00:23] <donvito2> im right now on ubuntu 12.04 with gnome classic no effects
[00:23] <ChuckNorrisInmor> xD some old school guy, good for all of you :D
[00:23] <MonkeyDust> donvito2  install plasma-desktop
[00:23] <johnjohn1011> there are different file mgrs for unity?
[00:25] <alen> Hi
[00:28] <donvito2> MonkeyDust can i run plasma desktop with 128 mb graphic card?
[00:28] <ChuckNorrisInmor> well cya all have fun great comunity
[00:28] <MonkeyDust> donvito2  that, my friend, I do not know, try it to find out
[00:29] <donvito2> trying :)
[00:29] <ubuntuaddicted> off to play Portal BETA in linux. WHOOT WHOOT
[00:31] <captine> hi all.  Really trying to figure this out with ubuntu 13.04 (had similar issue on 12.04 and 12.10).  http://imgur.com/T1yVG0G has a picture showing pavucontrol and the ubuntu volume control.  I can see my USB mic input under Pavucontrol, but cannot select it using the ubuntu volume control thing.  anyone able to assist
[00:34] <donvito2> MonkeyDust how to install QtCurve and KWIN window man ?
[00:36] <rrspin> !info htop
[00:36] <MonkeyDust> donvito2  both are in the repos, so as you would install any other package
[00:39] <anew> if i flush my ip tables in ubuntu will that make them try to look up the dns again ?
[00:40] <anew> iptables -t nat -F is that bad to run ?
[00:45] <johnjohn1011> my brother is on 10.04 LTS.  he doesn't care about updates, basically uses just firefox. If he never does a thing do you think his os will run as long as his hardware lasts?
[00:45] <SonikkuAmerica> johnjohn1011: Ubuntu 5.10 will run as long as there are electrons; why shouldn't 10.04? The big thing, though, is security issues.
[00:46] <zykotick9> johnjohn1011: that's a terrible way to use a computer...  no security = bad for others as well.
[00:46] <johnjohn1011> realistically does he have to worry about security issues?  he's behind a cable modem firewall
[00:46] <SonikkuAmerica> johnjohn1011: I've seen the darndest things come through those...
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Using the Internet is like signaling turns while driving: where you click is where you'll go.
[00:47] <johnjohn1011> do you really think someone could hijack his computer?
[00:47] <moppers> he should be worried about cross platform browser exploits, java exploits etc ... apart form that, should be OK
[00:48] <johnjohn1011> so just keep him up on the lastest firefox?
[00:48] <johnjohn1011> he doesn't want unity at all.  i had him on kde 3.x on mepis for six years
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> johnjohn1011: Then send him to Kubuntu then.
[00:50] <moppers> someone i know got hacked like this: they got his IP address from bittorrent, or because he visited their forum, we don't know. then his router had UPNP on (LOL) and they just got in via that
[00:50] <johnjohn1011> probably the best solution for him is 12.04 and MATE
[00:50] <moppers> so ya, there's no reason to trust your cable router
[00:51] <johnjohn1011> funny
[00:51] <johnjohn1011> what is upnp?
[00:52] <MonkeyDust> !upnp
[00:52] <johnjohn1011> i guess mate is pretty ez to install.  it's just not supported though
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> johnjohn1011: o?
[00:52] <eddievanhoy> Hey anyone on here avalible to help with a ubuntu issue?
[00:52] <MonkeyDust> mate is a mint thingy
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | eddievanhoy
[00:52] <johnjohn1011> i mean officially by this board
[00:53] <johnjohn1011> mint support isn't as good as this channel.
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> But we don't support Mint here, as !mint says
[00:54] <johnjohn1011> he's been running 3 years with zero issues
[00:54] <moppers> if mint doesnt tell you how to install mint/mate, what;s the point of it?
[00:54] <eddievanhoy> I tried to load vitalsource (windows app) by using wine. It loaded without errors but will not work. I have tried to delete it but its icon still shows up
[00:54] <johnjohn1011> the "ubuntu" way is my motto
[00:55] <eddievanhoy> How can I make sure it is completely gone.
[00:55] <moppers> eddievanhoy, there is an uninstaller in the wine control panels
[00:55] <eddievanhoy> It does not show up in it
[00:56] <moppers> i think wine stores its stuff in inside your user folder, hidden file. try ~/.wine
[00:56] <MonkeyDust> eddievanhoy  ask the people in #winehq
[00:56] <eddievanhoy> but when i click on the ubuntu button top left of screen it still shows icon
[00:56] <eddievanhoy> It took me 20 mins just to figure out how to get here. How do I get to the wine room??? Thank you
[00:57] <MonkeyDust> eddievanhoy  type /join #winehq
[00:57] <johnjohn1011> would be nice if there was a one click desktop share program like join.me that would would with ubuntu.
[00:57] <moppers> actually i hitnk its not wine
[00:57] <donvito2> how to remove kde sources from source list please?
[00:57] <moppers> i htink he just needs to remove it form ubuntu dash but i could be wrong
[00:57] <eddievanhoy> how do you remove it from dash??
[00:58] <moppers> donvito, open software updater, do it from there
[00:58] <donvito2> ok
[00:58] <moppers> donvito, sources tab of settings
[00:58] <jerry_> hello everbody, can I ask a question?
[00:59] <johnjohn1011> yes
[00:59] <zykotick9> jerry_: you just did.  perhaps asking an ubuntu-related question would get better answers ;)
[00:59] <jerry_> thank you, I cannot run a window program in Wine
[01:00] <moppers> which one
[01:00] <zykotick9> jerry_: i'd suggest #winehq myself
[01:00] <iuri> Hi there, IT has been a while my ubuntu suddenly changes entirely to reado-only mode nothing more work. To fix that I always need to reboot the machine and it does a filesystem check every rebootI
[01:00] <iuri> I am trying to find the cause of that, but nothing shows up within syslog
[01:01] <dr_willis> iuri:  i would be making some backups.. if the system detects harddrive failure/filesystem issues - it kicks into read-only mode..
[01:01] <iuri> I suspect that has somthing related with vsftpd
[01:01] <iuri> would that be ṕssible?
[01:01] <dr_willis> iuri:  look at the output of dmesg. I DOUBT if it has anything to do with ftp
[01:01] <jerry_> well, it's a dictionary. An iso file. In windows it would normally run as a cdrom or mounted in a virtual cd drive
[01:01] <dr_willis> jerry_:  mount the iso file. acces its contents
[01:01] <dr_willis> !iso
[01:02] <iuri> dr_willis, how would I check dmesg per tme and date
[01:02] <dr_willis> theres some gui - iso mounting tools also. but i never use them
[01:02] <jerry_> yes I have mounted it already an can access the exe file inside. But when I run it, it says: no disc inserted
[01:03] <iuri> dmesg command doesn't show time and date. That makes it impossible to investigate
[01:03] <dr_willis> iuri:  when it happens look at the end of dmesg. Id bet theres some info about Hard drive I/O errors
[01:03] <dr_willis> and i think the first part of each dmesg line is a datestamp
[01:03] <iuri> dr_willis, most of the times happens when people are wokrinmore in it and I am sleeping
[01:03] <iuri> hmm
[01:04] <iuri> the first part ???
[01:04] <dr_willis> jerry_:  so you may need to use the wine config tools to make that directory you mounted the iso TO - appear as a virtual cdrom drive for winme then
[01:04] <dr_willis> iuri:  if they accessing the part of the HD that is failing, that would make sence
[01:05] <devilboy> Zeitgeist Datahub is set by default on Lubuntu 13.04 ? I just saw it in Desktop Session Settings.
[01:05] <iuri> dr_willis,  I'd rather go to /var/log/kern.log
[01:05] <dr_willis> if this is a critical machine. I would be making backups, and planing on replaceing that hd iuri .
[01:05] <iuri> it is a human readable version of dmesg
[01:05] <kairos> ^21:05 * Channel #ubuntu created Sun Nov 26 01:42:41 2006 [21:05] [kairos] [5:irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu] [Act: 1]
[01:05] <moppers> making and *testing* backups :)
[01:06] <kairos> Sorry
[01:06] <iuri> dr_willis, thanks for the suggestions
[01:06] <moppers> the number of times i have seen restore fail ... BRR
[01:06] <dr_willis> thats why i just backup my imorntant files to a external hd. i can access.. i dont use any fancy full system backup methods
[01:06] <kairos> http://i.imgur.com/q1vZJtv.png Anyone care to help solve this?
[01:08] <dr_willis> kairos:  you might want to summarize  a bit about what the issue is.. most people wont just go to every URL posted to read about the actual issue...
[01:08] <kairos> dr_willis: Y'know, that's probably a good idea.
[01:09] <dr_willis> it also sucks when some troll posts some nasty image then refers to it as a support question.... ;P
[01:09] <kairos> Random pixels keep dropping from my screen and displaying the default Ubuntu background. They go away if that portion of the screen is refresh (moving a window over it, etc) but they reappear in a few seconds
[01:09] <kairos> refreshed*
[01:09] <dr_willis> sounds like some odd driver quirk.
[01:10] <kairos> I'm using nVidia's
[01:10] <kairos> I wouldn't be surprised
[01:10] <dr_willis> nvidia makes a lot of things.. ;)  so thats still rather broad.
[01:10] <kairos> nVidia's driver? :P
[01:10] <dr_willis> theres not a chipset maker out.. that i havent seen people have issues with in one way or another.
[01:11] <dr_willis> ive had very few issues with my  nvidia systems. but they are all getting to be a year+ old now.
[01:11] <kairos> Heh
[01:11] <dr_willis> you are using the nvidia's .run driver instgaller?
[01:12] <kairos> Yes
[01:14] <jerry_> I have tried to config wine Wine for the drive path. I set it as the same as where the iso is mounted. Still it says: no disc inserted
[01:14] <dr_willis> jerry_:  it would best to ask for wine help in #winehq
[01:14] <jerry_> ok thanks I will
[01:14] <dr_willis> i normally just copy eveyrthing from the cd image to a directory , then run the apps from that directory.   Not a lot of apps these days need the cdroms in the drive..
[01:15] <Meris> How can I work with Shift-JIS encoded filenames in GUI-programs, such as Fileroller on Ubuntu with an English UI? Those programs can't seem to cope with the weird symbols these filenames contain.
[01:16] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:18] <jerry_> it's an old app. I have tried it though. Even in windows it absolutely requires the cdrom inside (or an image on a virtual drive)
[01:22] <Meris> jerry_, which app are you talking about? Is there known solution to be found in the Wine AppDB?
[01:23] <jerry_> I haven't found anything on the internet so far, not even on the Wine support forum. It's an old dictionary. The ISO only contains a small .EXE and a huge .DAT
[01:25] <Meris> jerry_, from which year is it? From what you tell us, there is a copy protection on that disk, which may not be supported by Wine.
[01:26] <eddievanhoy> Hey does anyone know if there is a pidgin room like this?
[01:27] <x1nux> hi!
[01:27] <Meris> jerry_, hang on, a small .EXE you say, are all files in uppercase and limited to 8.3 names? perhaps? In that case it might be a DOS version version.
[01:28] <jerry_> the iso perfectly runs on windows. I think it has been published in 2001. But also in windows needs to be either on the CD or on an image file. It doesn't run if everything is copied on a directory
[01:28] <x1nux> i have problems with Stunnel on Ubuntu 12.10, i have a simple configuration, but i connect to port .. print this in stunnel log:  SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol
[01:28] <Meris> jerry_, sorry about the typos, I'm a bit woozy from lack of sleep.
[01:28] <x1nux> any ideas ?
[01:29] <jerry_> don't worry meris .. thanks for helping
[01:29] <eddievanhoy> anyone know if there is a pidgin help room like this???
[01:30] <Meris> x1nux, it looks like the server the program is talking to doesn't understand the protocol (at least not on the port you are using)
[01:30] <jerry_> it's not a dos version, I used to run it smoothly on XP and Vista
[01:31] <RobertBColton> hey guys i need help installing proprietary network drivers
[01:31] <RobertBColton> don gime no open source speech :P just tell me how i find em
[01:31] <Meris> jerry_, do you see any libraries or programs with names that do not look like they would have anything to do with the dictionary itself?, things like clokspl.exe perhaps?
[01:32] <madprops> is it normal to have dnsmasq running?
[01:32] <eddievanhoy> Does anyone see me?? DOes anyone know of a room to help with pidgin?
[01:33] <Meris> RobertBColton, *if* they are available, they can be had on the website of the hardware manufacturer.
[01:33] <Meris> !patience | eddievanhoy
[01:34] <RobertBColton> Meris, how i find manufacturer?
[01:34] <RobertBColton> thats what im trying to do
[01:34] <eddievanhoy> Great. I am new. Just wanted to make sure I was doing it right. Thank you
[01:34] <Meris> RobertBColton, please pastebin the output of lspci.
[01:34] <riddrib> How can put more security at ubuntu
[01:35] <Meris> eddievanhoy, it might help to know that the base of pidgin is actually libpurple. Maybe there is a chat channel called #purple, or #libpurple.
[01:35] <jerry_> nope ... only the .exe file (1 MB) and the .dat file (500MB) ... ok there is also a README file, but it doesn't say much
[01:35] <eddievanhoy> ok thank you
[01:37] <riddrib> How can put more security at ubuntu?
[01:37] <Meris> riddrib, you'll have to be a bit more specific than that, what kind of security do you require?
[01:38] <brian____> Is there another file that would record an Xorg crash?  It crashes immedialy and halts the computer, I have to hard restart it and the log Xorg.log is empty.
[01:39] <diamonds> I updated packages and now my wireless NIC is not recognized :/
[01:39] <Meris> brian____, you might look up /var/log/messages to see if there is any hardware issue with the current settings.
[01:39] <riddrib> to my internet connection
[01:39] <diamonds> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2200 (rev c4)
[01:40] <diamonds> (lspci | grep Centrino)
[01:40] <diamonds> ifconfig shows only eth0 and lo
[01:40] <Meris> riddrib, well, there are firewalls, vpn's, proxies, TOR, so much really.
[01:41] <anew> how the heck do i upgrade phpmyadmin in ubuntu
[01:41] <riddrib> to my internet connection
[01:42] <diamonds> I have this card it looks like http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:0891/
[01:42] <brian____> Meris,  I don't have that file, I'm on 12.04
[01:42] <diamonds> anew, probably using apt-get
[01:42] <diamonds> anew, try `apt-cache search phpmyadmin` and see what comes up
[01:42] <anew> ok let me see
[01:42] <Meris> diamonds, and you do have a wired NIC as well, hmm...
[01:43] <brian____> It's strange, I see the occurance of the xorg crashing but the it shows the startup information, like starting and stopping services on boot.  So it basically makes the screen its locked on worthless.
[01:43] <anew> diamonds phpmyadmin - MySQL web administration tool
[01:43] <Meris> brian____, so am I, I also run 12.04
[01:43] <diamonds> Meris, yeah... it worked 'til I clicked "update" on software manager & rebooted
[01:43] <anew> that's all i get, what's that mean ?
[01:43] <diamonds> anew, that means that package is available
[01:43] <diamonds> anew, now use apt-get to install/update
[01:43] <diamonds> I think sudo apt-get update will do it...
[01:44] <diamonds> but it depends on the version in your repo
[01:44] <anew> sudo apt-get update.  that's it ?
[01:44] <diamonds> I think so
[01:45] <Meris> brian____, Indeed, no more /var/log/messages. Well try /var/log/syslog and/var/log/ boot.log
[01:45] <anew> no still seems to be on 3.4.10.1deb1, but there is version 4 out hmmm
[01:45] <jerry_> what do I need to do after mounting the ISO file ?
[01:45] <OerHeks> !info phpmyadmin
[01:46] <minimec> brian____: Would you be able to connect to that machine via 'ssh' and check the log files before you reboot?
[01:46] <diamonds> Meris, how would you describe my problem?
[01:46] <brian____> Meris,  restarting.  I removed my xorg.conf and tried it, crashed.
[01:46] <anew> oerheks how do i get that version ?
[01:46] <diamonds> I'm having trouble googling it because I don't know how to describe it
[01:46] <diamonds> "NIC totally disabled"
[01:46] <diamonds> "no nic recognized"
[01:46] <OerHeks> anew upgrade to raring i guess
[01:46] <brian____> minimec, I can check, I think it halts the machine though, most likely the sshd wont allow me in, i'll try though.
[01:47] <anew> i can get it if i add a ppa to my system, is that bad ?
[01:47] <diamonds> http://hastebin.com/sikivayecu.sm < is the output of from lshw helpful?
[01:47] <Meris> diamonds, well, your NIC is detected on PCI level, just not as a NIC it has drivers for. Strange, indeed.
[01:48] <diamonds> Meris, so perhaps I don't have the drivers?
[01:48] <Meris> diamonds, it appears to be that way, unless the driver is supposed to be included in the kernel itself...
[01:49] <diamonds> Meris, I did screw up all my kernels earlier today
[01:49] <diamonds> I had too much space taken up by old kernals & I ran `sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-3*`
[01:50] <diamonds> and for some reason (I'd love to know why if you know) it remove ...-41
[01:50] <OerHeks> anew ppa's are not supported here, we like to blaim te ppa-owner when something funny happens.
[01:50] <diamonds> (NOT 3*)
[01:50] <diamonds> anyway that was my current kernel
[01:50] <atman> hello. who can help disable disk check size in ubiquity to install on less than 5.3 gb?
[01:50] <diamonds> so I reinstalled it with apt-get and rebooted
[01:50] <atman> prepary py doesnt work
[01:51] <Meris> diamonds, that might have something to do with it. To test this, pop in a freshly baked Live CDROM of the version of Ubuntu you are running. If it detects the Centrino as your NIC, then it is almost certain to be kernel related.
[01:51] <diamonds> I don't have one on hand :(
[01:51] <brian____> Meris, minimec, boot.log looks cleared on boot, so its only the most recent boot, and syslog was 12,000 lines, so I removed it and going to restart X, while trying to SSH into the box before I hard reset it.
[01:51] <diamonds> I can do the boot to usb thing I guess... need to get a usb and set it up
[01:51] <diamonds> Meris, I may try the driver solution before going down that path
[01:52] <OerHeks> anew uhh that ubuntu number looks like version 3.5.8 , as 4.0 is out 3 may 2013. > http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php  so wait for it to appear in updates.
[01:53] <Meris> brian____, you *removed* your syslog? That is daring. You could have piped it through grep, searching for the date of today, oh well...
[01:53] <diamonds> Meris, if it is kernel related (probably is) how would I go about fixing it?
[01:53] <anew> yeah i hope soon
[01:53] <atman> hello. how do you disable install size check
[01:53] <anew> how can i clear my dns cache in ubuntu ?
[01:53] <thermo> anew:  I am having the same issue I think
[01:53] <anew> thermo with internet cache ?
[01:53] <thermo> are you unable to use the internet
[01:53] <thermo> im not sure if its cache or not
[01:53] <anew> no, i just keep hitting a site that changed ip addresses of their server
[01:53] <anew> i need to flush the dns
[01:53] <diamonds> anew, http://superuser.com/questions/134762/how-to-clear-dns-cache-in-ubuntu
[01:53] <thermo> im connected to my network
[01:54] <thermo> but I am unable to use the internet
[01:54] <Meris> diamonds, by reinstalling your kernel I suppose, It's just a bunch of packages (kernel and associated modules) in Synaptic, or aptitude...
[01:54] <brian____> Meris, I assumed syslogd would just recreate it, hah, its a fresh install, so if its unrecoverable, oh well :)
[01:54] <diamonds> Meris, like this? sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41
[01:55] <atman> please help
[01:55] <thermo> anew: i was not here when you started this
[01:55] <thermo> what was your original issue
[01:55] <anew> thermo i am trying to go to site.com 12.34.12.12 but they changed their server address and their dns changed.  but ubuntu goes to their old server ip instead of their new one
[01:56] <Meris> diamonds, yes, that might help, but be sure to includeany extra modules that you might need as well, so search for that kernel version and install all kernel modules that might look relevant to your system as well.
[01:56] <rmarker> i have Xubuntu and lost my audio. what should i do?
[01:56] <thermo> sorry i guess we dont have the same issue anew
[01:56] <brian____> Meris, minimec, Well, I was able to stay logged in and the server remains up, but Xorg shows no actual errors, a couple warnings, but nothing that would make it lock
[01:56] <diamonds> Meris, I did that before, second try yields this: http://hastebin.com/qedawoxosa.vhdl
[01:57] <anew> damn i just ran this command sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart now i cant connect via ssh ...
[01:57] <diamonds> thank you for your help btw
[01:57] <Meris> rmarker, try opening up your sound preferences, switch from analog to digital output and back again. That might help
[01:58] <Meris> diamonds, are you running ARM, or PowerPC architecture? if you don't don't select those kernels.
[01:58] <rmarker> it's not reading my card
[01:59] <minimec> brian____: So you say, that you have a running xserver that is blank, but still running? How do you start that server? Do you expect a graphical login via lightdm login manager, or are you starting it from the command line?
[01:59] <Meris> diamonds, np, I like to help people if I can.
[01:59] <brian____> minimec, cmdline, its just X server with nodm
[02:00] <atman> hello. can someone tell me how to change min disk size check to smaller or off in installer for 13.04 pleaase
[02:00] <brian____> minimec, and its not actually blank.. I see the 'boot' screen of it starting and stopping services..
[02:00] <Meris> diamonds, omap is also a type of ARM architecture...
[02:00] <thermo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098201
[02:00] <diamonds> Meris, intel core i5
[02:00] <thermo> I've tried this but it hasn't worked for me
[02:01] <minimec> brian____: What do you mean by 'boot' screen?
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> atman, That's a hack no one here knows I would suspect.
[02:01] <diamonds> Meris, what does it mean "selecting" is it installing them or no?
[02:02] <Meris> brian____, did you try dropping to terminal and simply try to run startx &2> ~/xservererrors.log ?
[02:02] <atman> wilee-nilee: i read you can change prepary.py but it is not there in 13.04. please help
[02:03] <qualia> well well well. Ubuntu update ?? What's new
[02:03] <brian____> Meris, I'll try that
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> atman, Never seen that don't know how, what you read is not necessarily true.
[02:03] <atman> ok
[02:03] <atman> well i cannot use ubuntu wihout it
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> k
[02:04] <Meris> diamonds, I'd abort that apt-get install and go for the -generic kernel,
[02:04] <thermo> has anyone ever had ubuntu be connected to a network
[02:05] <thermo> but the internet wont work?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > thermo
[02:05] <diamonds> Meris, they're all already installed
[02:05] <Meris> diamonds, the *selection* you see won't be installed, because your query was ambiguous.
[02:05] <diamonds> should I remove them?
[02:05] <lier_> s
[02:05] <diamonds> it installed generic, virtual, and lowlatency
[02:06] <diamonds> I'm working off this now http://kennethray.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Repair-Wireless-Network-After-Ubuntu-Update
[02:06] <lier_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:06] <Meris> diamonds, in that case, you have nothing to worry about.
[02:06] <lier_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:06] <diamonds> Meris, what does that mean :(
[02:07] <lier_> s
[02:07] <brian____> Meris, minimec - this is what it does when I startx on the computer, http://troll.ws/image/83dc2d5a
[02:07] <Meris> diamonds, it means that apt-get has installed only those kernels which are compatible to your system architecture.
[02:07] <diamonds> how do I find out which wireless driver-name to install here? http://hastebin.com/fenekujebu.xml
[02:07] <diamonds> (doing the driver install thing)
[02:08] <asteriskandy> i have no idea what i'm doing it but i'm trying to compile csipsimple now. http://code.google.com/p/csipsimple/wiki/HowToBuild#With_a_virtual_machine
[02:08] <anew> sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart i ran this command, now i cant connect to my box? small panic, what did i do ?
[02:08] <asteriskandy> paws on the keyboard over here.
[02:09] <minimec> brian____: Could it be that you have an old .Xauthority file in your /home directory? But that would would send you back to the console I think... Try to 'rm' or 'mv .Xauthority' before starting the Xserver
[02:09] <Meris> brian____, hmm, that fsck on /boot with exit code 1 does not look good.
[02:09] <diamonds> I think I have broadcom.... :/
[02:09] <brian____> Meris, its becuase I have to hold the power button in for 3 seconds to get it to do anything, so its always seeing it.
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom
[02:11] <onr> man, why the hell xubuntu doesn't fit in a cd anymore?
[02:11] <brian____> minimec, i'll remove it.  Basically, I built this box up a few days ago and had trouble with the USB wifi adapters I was trying to use.  Bought a supported one, installed and formatted.  Right before that, I backed up my .xsession and my xorg.conf.  Everything was working, the major difference is, I wasnt running the 3.5 kernel
[02:11] <anew>  sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart can anyone help me what i did with this command now i cant connect to my server
[02:11] <onr> they could opt out some stuff
[02:11] <vexed_> anyone know how to fix a ipV6 issue on Ubuntu ?  When I use ssh to the remote server, the IPV6 address it uses is wrong, that address is actually the server's IP
[02:12] <Meris> brian____, Well, it does mean that fsck has detected errors on your /boot partition or directory during startup.
[02:12] <diamonds> I cannot believe how difficult this is...
[02:12] <diamonds> I know my device name, I have a driver install tool
[02:13] <rmarker> how can i get my soundcard to be reconized again
[02:13] <Meris> brian____, did you try to boot from a Live CD? or even a slightly older kernel that has not been "tainted" yet?  They should show up in your GRUB startup screen.
[02:13] <minimec> brian____: .Xauthority would be in /home/brian____ to be clear...
[02:14] <brian____> minimec, yeah, doubting that would be it though, I have tried a few accounts, each having their own .Xauthority
[02:14] <Meris> brian____, my using a LiveCD you can rule out hardware problems.
[02:15] <brian____> Meris, that is what I am trying now, after I try one more thing since its already booted, might as well amke it crash one moe time
[02:16] <Meris> brian____, sure enough, won't hurt to try, but try to get it to spew it's errors at a file on a non-volatile memory location, like a USB stick or so.
[02:17] <Meris> brian____, the &2> in my suggested line redirects any error messages of that process to a separate file.
[02:17] <brian____> Meris, yeah, I tried the suggestion earlier to output it, and the file is empty
[02:17] <rmarker> Guess i will just reboot yet again to see if it works
[02:18] <Meris> brian____, in that case the XServer doesn't yield any errors, or even crashes before it can even produce any log. :-/
[02:19] <A1Recon> Hello! I am currently running a dual boot Win7-Ubuntu PC, and the monitor is a HDMI television. How do I transfer audio over to the HDMI? Currently the audio is comes from my headphones...
[02:20] <brian____> Meris, that would also explain the Xorg.log being empty.  I don't have any previous versions to boot.  I do know that desktop version boots fine and I get the full gui.  This is 12.04 server
[02:20] <minimec> A1Recon: You should be able to do so in the 'preferences' of the volume panel applet.
[02:21] <brian____> 3 days prior, it worked, minus a format and a PCIE wifi adapter
[02:21] <minimec> A1Recon: There should be a HDMI Audio device in 'output'.
[02:22] <brian____> I'll put a live cd in real quick just to confirm that it is still working with X
[02:22] <diamonds> how do I figure out what driver this thing uses? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:0891/
[02:22] <diamonds> I need to install driver but there is no info there
[02:22] <diamonds> it currently does not work
[02:22] <Meris> brian____, I see... Did you check if any of the hardware you are using has overlapping resources? Memory addresses, IRQ levels, DMA or similar resources?
[02:23] <A1Recon> minimec: In Play sound through, there's S/PDIF Headphones and Analog Output but no HDMI. The HDMI is connected through my GPU
[02:23] <Meris> diamonds, you could try  to modprobe with the driver, though that might hang your syste,
[02:23] <diamonds> jesus christ :(
[02:24] <diamonds> given the OS version & device name there's no simple map to a driver?
[02:24] <A1Recon> In Play sound through, there's S/PDIF Headphones and Analog Output but no HDMI. The HDMI is connected to my GPU!
[02:24] <Meris> diamonds, did you check for resources that might overlap? You can see that in /proc, which is a direct interface to your kernel.
[02:25] <diamonds> Meris, can you break that down for me?
[02:25] <Kernel|Panic> I've got Ubuntu 12.04 , and I think I have a bug to report. When I click on "Connection Information" or "Edit Connections..." in the drop down menu of the network management widget, nothing happens now. It used to open a window for these earlier.
[02:25] <diamonds> I'm afraid I don't know what you mean
[02:25] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  theres some known issues with hdmi audio not getting detected - it was working for me in beta. but not in the final release of 13.04 ;(
[02:25] <minimec> A1Recon: And you don't have the HDMI output listed in 'hardware'?
[02:26] <Meris> diamonds, sure, please check if there are any asterisks in the "files" /proc/dma and /proc/iomem. Asterisks in those files usually mean a resource conflict.
[02:26] <Alan_> Excuse me, does anyone know of a good screen recorder for Ubuntu 13.04?
[02:27] <dr_willis> !info gtkrecordmydesktop
[02:27] <A1Recon> minimec: No it's not listed in Hardware!!
[02:27] <brian____> Meris, I hadn't but I always thought the messages appear at boot time, in dmesg
[02:27] <dr_willis> Theres a gtk-record-my-desktop package in the repos that works ok.
[02:28] <Alan2> sorry my nickname was in use :/
[02:28] <Alan2> I tried RecordMyDesktop, but
[02:28] <julian_c> Good for recording the screen, somewhat passable for audio as well.
[02:28] <Meris> brian____, not all of them, some iomem resources are rather obscure and won't normally be mentioned, unless you order your kernel to log verbosely.
[02:28] <Alan2> it wasn't nearly keeping up with the frame-rates I was moving at.
[02:28] <Alan2> It was basically half the screen full of pixels..
[02:29] <diamonds> Meris, no none
[02:29] <Alan2> I also tried Kazam which didn't turn out that good. I'm used to something similar to Camstudio in Windows, if they is a close alternative..
[02:29] <Alan2> *there is a close alternative
[02:29] <diamonds> there is really no way to map device + OS to driver?
[02:29] <julian_c> Alan2: What was your screen resolution when you were recording?
[02:29] <dr_willis> Alan2:  so what are you recording exactly thats high fps?
[02:29] <Meris> diamonds, no asterisks you mean?
[02:29] <diamonds> I swear I've done exactly that with windows
[02:29] <diamonds> Meris, correct
[02:29] <Alan2> Let me check, 1 minute.
[02:30] <brian____> Meris, ok, makes sense.  I will try that in a second, booting a live disc to make sure I have graphics and wifi.  Might aswell check the disk also.
[02:30] <Alan2> I am at the highest video quality for RecordMyDesktop, however the frame-rate is 15. Should I try adjusting that?
[02:30] <diamonds> I have, like, 10 options: http://hastebin.com/fenekujebu.xml
[02:30] <Meris> diamonds, that is actually what modprobe tries to do. Normally it's harmless, unless you are modprobing for really low level stuff.
[02:30] <Alan2> 22050 is the frequency
[02:30] <dr_willis> Alan2:  i imagine theres going to be a trade off btween quality and fps
[02:30] <diamonds> Meris, all right I'm happy to try
[02:31] <Alan2> Let me look for FPS..
[02:32] <Alan2> I,  I honestly do not know how to figure that out, I really apologize. FPS, my frames per second is 15 if that's helpful..
[02:32] <Meris> diamonds, you do need to know the name of the driver that you are trying to load. If modprobe detects it, the next step would be insmod, which will not only test the driver but load and attch it to your kernel.
[02:32] <diamonds> hoooly ffuuuuuuuu
[02:32] <diamonds> I have to know the name before I start looking?
[02:32]  * diamonds weeps
[02:32] <dr_willis> Alan2:  if you want more FPS - then you may have to reduce the res of your display, or the quality of the video recorded
[02:33] <Meris> diamonds, don't worry, it's just a modular system, you actual; kernel won't be altered in any way.
[02:33] <Alan2> I'll try quality of 85, if that sounds okay..
[02:33] <diamonds> Meris, how do I find the driver name...
[02:33] <diamonds> I thought modprobe would tell ME the driver name, not vice versa :(
[02:33] <dr_willis> modprobe = module probe.  (load the module and any needed moduls into the kernel)
[02:34] <Alan2> Okay, i'm recording a test right now. Thank you.
[02:34] <diamonds> dr_willis, how might I use this to get a missing wireless NIC driver installed?
[02:34] <brian____> Meris, well, it boots and startX with using a live disk, also have wifi and using kernel 3.7.6
[02:35] <dr_willis> diamonds:  you need to determins its chipset. then figure what module/drivers  it needs.
[02:35] <Meris> diamonds, try this please: lspci -vv | grep -i network   and pastebin the results
[02:36] <diamonds> http://hastebin.com/giqebaluhe.sm
[02:36] <Alan2> God, this recorder is crap
[02:36] <diamonds> http://hastebin.com/nexafimeyi.sm
[02:37] <brian____> I think at this point, I am going to reinstall 12.04, and systematically install X, test it, install fglrx, test it, etc.. etc..
[02:37] <b3n> greetings !
[02:37] <Alan2> let me show you a screenshot of my problem..
[02:37] <Alan2> if only ubuntu came with a recorder by default..
[02:37] <b3n> hey i would like to ask how to install webapps in 13.04 ?
[02:37] <diamonds> dr_willis, Meris does that help?
[02:37] <diamonds> dr_willis, how do I determine the chipset?
[02:38] <Meris> diamonds, allright :-) Now you at least have the exact name of your controller: Intel 82579LM
[02:38] <dr_willis> b3n:  the webap stuff is installed by default. or should be at least
[02:38] <Alan2> http://oi42.tinypic.com/23kvpy.jpg
[02:38] <dr_willis> diamonds:  you look at the output of that command you pastebined..
[02:38] <diamonds> Meris, that's the ethernet nick
[02:38] <diamonds> dr_willis, I am on my knees begging for help
[02:38] <minimec> brian____: Consider 13.04 instead of a 'patched' 12.04. It's an amazing release.
[02:38] <diamonds> i'm going in circles googling the output of these commands :(
[02:39] <diamonds> I've found this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:0891/
[02:39] <Meris> diamonds, 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2200 (rev c4) <= That is the description of the chipset itself
[02:39] <diamonds> "congratulations, it's supported!!" ...ok... now what?
[02:39] <Alan2> My project will be due soon, & I'm thinking I might just need to use a regular camera to record my screen.
[02:39] <dr_willis> diamonds:  the lines that says 'product' i belive is your chipsets
[02:39] <b3n> yes it is (maybe your talking about the webapps-runner dr willis
[02:39] <brian____> minimec, its meant as a dualscreen kiosk, so I was hoping for a set and forget type system with no features, but able to view a web app.  I just assumed the LTS was nicer for that purpose
[02:40] <diamonds> dr_willis, Meris ok.  which of these is that? http://hastebin.com/fenekujebu.xml
[02:40] <diamonds> which driver-name
[02:40] <diamonds> or... there's another step (?)
[02:40] <diamonds> thanks for your hlep
[02:40] <dr_willis> most intel wifi should be supported from the beginning.
[02:40] <minimec> brian____: I see...
[02:40] <A1Recon> How do i set a password to the Terminal?
[02:40] <diamonds> dr_willis, but it's not in my case
[02:41] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  what do you mean?
[02:41] <Meris> dr_willis, true, but it is a bit suspicious to see only Lenovo products mentioned and no other lappies...
[02:41] <diamonds> dr_willis, my kernel is messed up maybe, I've tried reinstaling it
[02:41] <Alan2> If you're typing in a password, you do not see the letters if that's what you're talking about. Maybe I'm mis-understanding that, sorry..
[02:42] <b3n> my question would be how to install the facebook webapp? it's not showing in Software center when i search it ? anyone ?
[02:42] <Alan2> Probably the browser is the best, let me look for you though
[02:43] <A1Recon> dr_willis: When I use Ctrl+Alt+T, it brings up the terminal, but in a video i saw the user was prompted for a password to access the terminal! How do i do that?
[02:43] <diamonds> please please...
[02:43] <diamonds> I know the device, I know the OS...
[02:43] <diamonds> why why can't I find the driver :(
[02:43] <dr_willis> !find  ipw2200
[02:43] <din> b3n: maybe install gwibber?
[02:43] <diamonds> "The Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2200 is under the Wireless category and is contained in the certified systems below."
[02:43] <dr_willis> diamonds:  google tells me that the module name should be the ipw2200
[02:44] <diamonds> dr_willis, how did you find that out of curiosity?
[02:44] <b3n> A1Recon, maybe the user typed in gksudo
[02:44] <Meris> dr_willis, ninja's just found it myself... ;-)
[02:44] <dr_willis> diamonds i googled for 'intel 2200 ubuntu module'
[02:44] <Meris> dr_willis, that would be ninja'd.
[02:44] <A1Recon> b3n: I dunno. I will check
[02:44] <diamonds> dr_willis, and how do I install that?
[02:45] <din> b3n: also chrome has the ability to make facebook a webapp.
[02:45] <diamonds> I didn't know to look for the word "module" i was searching "driver" :(
[02:45] <Meris> diamonds, by issuing modprobe ipw2200
[02:45] <dr_willis> diamonds -  does a 'lsmod '  show it loaded?
[02:45] <Bray90820> Anyone use the applacation drawers
[02:45] <dr_willis> lsmod | grep ipw
[02:45] <diamonds> http://hastebin.com/cenefareji.hs < dr_willis
[02:45] <diamonds> no
[02:45] <Bray90820> i can't figure out how to remove a drawer
[02:45] <b3n> din , are you also using 13.04 ?
[02:46] <dr_willis> bbl.. gotta get some work done.
[02:46] <din> b3n: yes.
[02:46] <diamonds> ok i'm going to run modprobe...
[02:46] <diamonds> modprobe ip2200
[02:46] <Meris> diamonds, no!
[02:46] <diamonds> no?
[02:46] <diamonds> ipw
[02:46] <Meris> diamonds, its ipw2200
[02:46] <din> in chrome, settings, tools, create application shortcuts
[02:46] <diamonds> Meris, FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found.
[02:47] <b3n> hmmm, i use firefox 20 (the preinstalled) but no options shows on the address bar to add it ? do i need to add repository or something ?
[02:47] <din> visit the page you want and find those options to make it a "webapp"
[02:47] <Meris> diamonds, that would mean it is not supported or included in your current kernel...Hmm, strange.
[02:47] <din> b3n: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95346
[02:47] <RobertBColton> od news everybody!
[02:47] <anew> i'm trying to mail -v but it says invalid option?
[02:47] <Alan2> I hate to bring all this crap up again, but I do remember that Skype can show my screen pretty good, I'm just not sure what it uses to capture it. I wish I could record Ubuntu 13.04 with the same tool it uses.
[02:47] <RobertBColton> whoops wrong channel
[02:48] <RobertBColton> Meris, hey thaks for your help i got this thing working
[02:48] <RobertBColton> you guys are great! :)
[02:48] <brian____> modinfo ipw2200
[02:48] <diamonds> Meris, so it sounds like I'm basically fucked
[02:48] <diamonds> :/
[02:48] <b3n> din, and that is using chrome ? how about firefox?
[02:48] <Meris> RobertBColton, great to hear, Happy to help you helping yourself ;-)
[02:48] <Alan2> :(
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> !language > diamonds
[02:48] <diamonds> my kernel is messed up, can't figure out why, wireless doesn't work and there's no way to install the driver
[02:48] <din> b3n: not sure tha firefox can do that. i use chrome for everything.
[02:48] <diamonds> because that would be too easy :)
[02:49] <Alan2> I use Opera..
[02:49] <felon> i use firefox
[02:49] <diamonds> what did I even do I wonder...
[02:49] <diamonds> how did I break this...
[02:49] <Meris> diamonds, no, not so glum yet, you might have to install another kernel module, which is just a package just like any other.
[02:49] <transit441> how do i zip a file
[02:49] <diamonds> Meris, ah!
[02:49] <transit441> er folder
[02:49] <diamonds> how... I don't know what the next step is
[02:49] <diamonds> I am way over my head basically :)
[02:49] <brian____> Diamondcite, , you could use compat-wireless and compile them and install them, so you shouldn't say you 'cant'...
[02:49] <brian____> MT
[02:50] <diamonds> brian____, do you actually think that's helpful or are you trolling? ;)
[02:50] <b3n> din let me try it
[02:50] <transit441> anyone?
[02:51] <transit441> how do i zip a folder
[02:51] <transit441> or even tar it
[02:51] <balls> ubuntu server is taking ages to insall
[02:51] <diamonds> transit441, man tar
[02:51] <balls> install
[02:51] <diamonds> transit441, man gzip
[02:51] <transit441> how?
[02:51] <transit441> is it tar -xvf?
[02:51] <b3n> bye
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> !patience > transit441
[02:51] <diamonds> transit441, man tar and you will see :)
[02:51] <Meris> diamonds, you might try baking your own kernel, but that is probably not necessary, it might be though. Have you ever done that yourself? It's a lot of work, but you learn a *lot* in the process of doing so, plus, it's well documented.
[02:51] <balls> im using 512mb of ram
[02:51] <din> transit441: tar czvf file.tar.gz /path/to/folder
[02:51] <brian____> diamonds, You have to start somewhere, and broken things are the best time to learn.  But there are easier ways to get it work.
[02:52] <diamonds> Meris, unfortunately I have work to do beyond just futzing with my drivers & kernel :(
[02:52] <balls> this is the THIRD version of ubuntu ive tried
[02:52] <Meris> diamonds, you might try (...gasp...) ndiswrapper.
[02:52] <transit441> din: root@ks3099630:/home/morph# tar czvr openvpn.tar.gz /home/morph/openvpn
[02:52] <transit441> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option
[02:52] <transit441> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[02:52] <transit441> root@ks3099630:/home/morph#
[02:52] <balls> what to do
[02:52] <Bray90820> how would i recursively search a directory
[02:52] <diamonds> I picked ubuntu because it's advertised as a more "user friendly" distro... I'm not an eleet linux hacker
[02:52] <din> transit441: you typoed my command.
[02:52] <brian____> transit441, for the love of god man... tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
[02:52] <transit441> yep
[02:52] <diamonds> and basically I don't want to leanr to compile the kernel (right now)
[02:52] <transit441> i got it din
[02:53] <transit441> ty
[02:53] <diamonds> brian____, what's the easier way?
[02:53] <balls> I need a linux os that can run reasoably on 512 mb of ram
[02:53] <balls> even the installer was slow
[02:53] <julian_c> balls: The installer is just really slow with that much RAM or less.
[02:53] <transit441> din:  morph@ks3099630:~$ ifconfig
[02:53] <transit441> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[02:53] <Meris> diamonds, I see. Well, try to reinstall the newest stable kernel then and perform a reboot, it just *might* pick up your "new" hardware.
[02:53] <Bray90820> how would i recursively search
[02:53] <transit441> any idea why ifconfig wont work
[02:54] <din> transit441: try sudo ifconfig
[02:54] <balls> what do ai get
[02:54] <din> balls: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[02:54] <balls> thanks
[02:54] <transit441> fuck
[02:54] <transit441> my tun still isnt thre
[02:54] <BobJonkman1> Hi all:  What's the name of the utility that lets me use one keyboard and mouse to control two or more Linux computers?
[02:54] <Meris> balls, try Puppy Linux, Vector Linux or Bodhi Linux. None of them are supported here btw.
[02:54] <diamonds> Meris, I did that once, I'll try again
[02:55] <antitau> BobJonkman1: synergy
[02:55] <BobJonkman1> antitau: That's the one!  Thanx, had a bit of a brainfreeze
[02:55] <antitau> BobJonkman1: I had to set something up yesterday with it so it was fresh in my mind :) np
[02:56] <johnjohn1011> balls, i ran puppy for a number of weeks.  hard to believe is all fit in 256 MG machine!
[02:56] <Meris> !language | transit441
[02:57] <brian____> diamonds, you can download compat-wiress, ./scripts/driver-select ipw2200; make; make install -- ofcourse that is if you are to use ipw2200 which I assume you should based on others input
[02:57] <diamonds> ok I'm back
[02:57] <diamonds> Meris, I'm afraid that didn't seem to work
[02:57] <transit441> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[02:57] <Meris> diamonds, did it work? Try brian____ 's suggestion
[02:57] <Bray90820> Does anyone know how to recursively search for a directory
[02:57] <transit441> morph@ks3099630:~$ sudo mkdir /proc/net/dev
[02:57] <transit441> mkdir: cannot create directory `/proc/net/dev': File exists
[02:57] <transit441> morph@ks3099630:~$ ifconfig
[02:57] <transit441> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[02:57] <transit441> morph@ks3099630:~$ sudo chmod 777 /proc/net/dev
[02:57] <transit441> morph@ks3099630:~$ ifconfig
[02:57] <transit441> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[02:57] <FloodBot1> transit441: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <A1Recon> A Text editor for editing code(HTNL,CSS,Python,Jquery) like Notepad++
[02:58] <Meris> Ah, if we didn't have FloodBots, Great to see that work so impeccably. :-)
[02:58] <johnjohn1011> Bray90820:  used the find command
[02:58] <Bray90820> is that recursive
[02:58] <Bray90820> don't i need to put -R
[02:59] <Bray90820> or something like that
[03:00] <Meris> Bray90820, try man find     first, it's a tool with a lot of options
[03:00] <diamonds> Meris, I may have missed it, what was it?
[03:00] <transit441> can someone help me with this
[03:00] <transit441> http://pastebin.com/c1DdfYY6
[03:00] <transit441> im trying to set up a VPN
[03:00] <Meris> diamonds, <brian____> diamonds, you can download compat-wiress, ./scripts/driver-select ipw2200; make; make install -- ofcourse that is if you are to use ipw2200 which I assume you should based on others input
[03:00] <x1nux> SSL_accept: 1408F10B: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
[03:00] <Bray90820> Meris: don't i need to put something like -R to make it recursive
[03:00] <johnjohn1011> find . -name "*.pl"   for instance  the . is the current directory.   add 2 > /dev/null to reduce directories you can't seek
[03:00] <x1nux> Stunnel4 - ubuntu-12.10
[03:01] <x1nux> any ideas ?
[03:01] <Meris> Bray90820, no you don't find doesn't work like that, it works by search depths
[03:01] <diamonds> brian____, where do I get that compat-wireless?  the one I have shows this: http://hastebin.com/fenekujebu.xml
[03:01] <johnjohn1011> Bray90820: no use the command as i've typed..  what are you looking for?  I will give you the command line.
[03:01] <diamonds> got it from the link here: http://kennethray.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Repair-Wireless-Network-After-Ubuntu-Update
[03:02] <Bray90820> i wanted to search ti was looking for a folder called .local
[03:02] <diamonds> how do I figure out which one to use? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[03:03] <Bray90820> johnjohn1011: i was looking for a folder called .local
[03:03] <johnjohn1011> Bray90820: find / -name ".local" -type d
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Bray90820, ctrl-h home
[03:03] <Meris> Bray90820, that is in your homedir.
[03:03] <brian____> diamonds, I guess it is technically backports, what ubuntu are you using?
[03:03] <diamonds> 12.04
[03:03] <diamonds> Linux diamonds-T530 3.2.0-41-virtual #66-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 25 03:47:17 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:04] <johnjohn1011> Bray90820: http://superuser.com/questions/327762/how-to-find-a-directory-on-linux
[03:04] <Bray90820> Meris: is it hidden
[03:04] <Meris> diamonds, that kernel is a bit old, I use: 3.5.0-18
[03:04] <Meris> Bray90820, yes, every file starting with a . is hidden in *nix
[03:05] <diamonds> Meris, I thought it was the newest listed...
[03:05] <diamonds> ok
[03:05] <TXRoadkill> anybody had problems with 13.04?
[03:05] <Bray90820> so does that mean i can't cd to it in the terminal
[03:05] <brian____> 3.5. is available for 12.04 im pretty sure
[03:05] <johnjohn1011> brian____: i'm using 3.5 in 12.04
[03:05] <Meris> diamonds, here's my output of uname -a: uname -a
[03:05] <Meris> Linux linblk 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 25 07:26:14 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux (I run 12.04 64 Bits BTW)
[03:05] <diamonds> Meris, where are you looking I don't see that version (0-18)
[03:06] <brian____> yah, has to be, just ran update on the server I broke with X, and it is 3.5 something
[03:06] <brian____> triple confirmed.
[03:06] <Bray90820> never mind i got it
[03:06] <Bray90820> thanks anyways
[03:06] <diamonds> so which compat wireless do I use
[03:06] <brian____> well, first upgrade your kernel
[03:06] <diamonds> the 3.2.5 one?
[03:06] <diamonds> brian____, how do I do that :(
[03:06] <diamonds> I think that's what got me into this mess
[03:06] <Meris> diamonds, I didn't do anything funky, just updated to the latest Ubuntu supported kernel as soon as it showed up in Updates
[03:07] <diamonds> I've tried over and over to upgrade it
[03:07] <ChogyDan> diamonds: pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy linux-generic`
[03:07] <johnjohn1011> Linux bubba-MS-7529 3.5.0-27-generic #46~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 26 19:33:56 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[03:08] <Meris> diamonds, just try sudo apt-get update
[03:08] <diamonds> ChogyDan, http://hastebin.com/defafatori.avrasm
[03:09] <mojtaba> Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, but my system's screen seems not working when booting up with kernel 3.8. I used kernel 3.5 and I could log in to my computer. Does anybody know what could be the problem, and how can I resolve it?
[03:09] <Meris> diamonds, it seems your Ubuntu mirror is lightly out of date.
[03:09] <Meris> diamonds, it seems your Ubuntu mirror is slightly out of date then
[03:09] <brian____> are you using a virtual kernel?
[03:09] <diamonds> brian____, I think so...?
[03:09] <diamonds> that's what it says in grub
[03:09] <diamonds> Meris, how do I fix that
[03:10] <ChogyDan> diamonds: no, that is fine actually.  If you are on 12.04, that makes sense, it isn't broken
[03:11] <diamonds> whenever I apt-get update it complains about spotify repos I added
[03:11] <diamonds> how to undo that
[03:11] <diamonds> I can't find spotify in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, but my system's screen seems not working when booting up with kernel 3.8. I used kernel 3.5 and I could log in to my computer. Does anybody know what could be the problem, and how can I resolve it?
[03:11] <diamonds> I just want to see apt-get update run w/ no errors
[03:11] <brian____> diamonds, I'm no expert but I think the -virtual is intended on being ran with virtualization and has far less drivers available, not that you can't install them.  That might explain why you don't have that wireless driver.
[03:11] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: what graphics card?
[03:11] <diamonds> brian____, oh cool!
[03:12] <diamonds> how can i switch that in grub?
[03:12] <mojtaba> I have Dell Studio 1555.
[03:12] <Litecoin_Messiah> how do i open port 3333
[03:12] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: I have Dell Studio 1555.
[03:12] <ChogyDan> brian____: yeah, that is my understanding as well.
[03:12] <ChogyDan> diamonds: try installing linux-generic
[03:12] <Meris> diamonds, are you running a server or a virtual server?
[03:12] <diamonds> Meris, desktop
[03:12] <diamonds> ChogyDan, I have a couple times in the past couple hours
[03:12] <diamonds> I can try again...
[03:13] <Meris> diamonds, in that case, go with ChogyDan's advice
[03:13] <ChogyDan> diamonds: pastebin the output of your errors
[03:13] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: Do you know what should I do?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, you know the graphic card, and have looked i the additional drivers tab in software updates?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> in*
[03:13] <Meris> diamonds, brian____ ,  I'll have to sleep now, it's already O_o 5:15 AM here...
[03:13] <diamonds> ChogyDan, this is the install command: http://hastebin.com/xeparekase.vhdl
[03:13] <diamonds> Meris, ty so much!
[03:14] <brian____> Meris, I would be dead already, heh
[03:14] <diamonds> ChogyDan, I was installing a specific version
[03:14] <Meris> diamonds, don't mention it, I really hope you will get your NIC working.
[03:14] <johnjohn1011> dell studio 1555 has intel graphis btw  mojtaba
[03:14] <diamonds> because the OS has been filling up /lib/modules with every version of the linux kernel since moses for some reason
[03:14] <ChogyDan> diamonds: hmmm, it looks like you already had the kernel installed
[03:14] <Khaleel78> hey guys, quick question if I wanted to install a program from launchpad named blueman and it's ppa address was "http://ppa.launchpad.net/blueman/ppa/ubuntu"
[03:15] <ChogyDan> diamonds: yeah, you need to uninstall old kernels
[03:15] <diamonds> ChogyDan, oh I did ;)
[03:15] <Khaleel78> do I type in term "sudo apt-get-repository ppa:blueman/ppa"
[03:15] <diamonds> I think my issue was from OVER uninstalling
[03:15] <Khaleel78> to add the repo?
[03:15] <Khaleel78> for 12.10?
[03:15] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: I have latest drivers I guess.
[03:15] <brian____> diamonds, Well, every system I have, desktops and servers, none of them run a -virtual kernel, my aws EC2 instances all do though, heh
[03:15] <Meris> brian____, I have a weakness for sitting behind my screen for too long. I will be dead, yes, but that will hopefully not be before another 50-60 years from now :-P
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> Khaleel78, Make sure it has your release and that is the ppa name
[03:15] <Khaleel78> ok
[03:16] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: I have no problem with kernel 3.5, but It is not working with kernel 3.8!
[03:16] <diamonds> ChogyDan, http://hastebin.com/cukivoroji.mel
[03:16] <diamonds> I keep getting errors on update
[03:16] <ChogyDan> Khaleel78: https://launchpad.net/~blueman/+archive/ppa  see that page
[03:16] <diamonds> brian____, so maybe I follow this advice and it will help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535779
[03:16] <Khaleel78> alright thanks
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> Khaleel78, only supports up to 11.10
[03:17] <Khaleel78> ah ok
[03:17] <ChogyDan> diamonds: that error is more of a warning.  Don't worry about that
[03:17] <diamonds> "change GRUB_DEFAULT to a number that is the position of your selected entry (counting from 0)" What does this mean (from grub config)?
[03:17] <Meris> Anyhow, good day, night, wherever. zzzZZZzzzz (.。.)
[03:18] <brian____> diamonds, if you have multiple kernels instead, you can just choose other options at the grub screen and pick a different kernel and try it.. but do this, take a live cd, and see if you get wireless when its booted
[03:18] <diamonds> how do I determine "the position of my selected entry?"
[03:18] <diamonds> brian____, I don't have live on hand
[03:18] <diamonds> let me reboot & try to pick another kernel
[03:18] <brian____> If only there were websites with live cd's to download...
[03:19] <diamonds> u
[03:19] <diamonds> the only linux kernel options at the top are virtual
[03:19] <johnjohn1011> mojtaba, do you know if you have intel, ati or nvidia graphics?
[03:19] <diamonds> should I uninstall the virtual kernel?
[03:20] <diamonds> I feel like I'm getting close here...
[03:20] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: I think it is ATI graphic card
[03:20] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: I found this, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1133087
[03:20] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: I have the same problem.
[03:20] <diamonds> sudo apt-get remove linux-virtual
[03:21] <diamonds> does this seem like a good idea?
[03:21] <brian____> well no.
[03:21] <brian____> Do you have linux-generic ?
[03:21] <balls> how to rename the rubbish bin
[03:21] <diamonds> brian____, yes
[03:21] <diamonds> linux-generic is already the newest version.
[03:21] <diamonds> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[03:22] <diamonds> brian____, I wonder why the -generics aren't presented as options in grub (?)
[03:22] <brian____> what does your /boot look like?
[03:22] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: Do you know what should I do?
[03:22] <diamonds> brian____, http://hastebin.com/hikudoqedo.cpp
[03:22] <Litecoin_Messiah> any idea how i could open port 333 in ubuntu 12?
[03:22] <Litecoin_Messiah> anyone?
[03:23] <ChogyDan> !iptables > Litecoin_Messiah
[03:23] <brian____> diamonds, I don't want to be the person to tell you to uninstall linux-virtual and your system not boot.
[03:24] <diamonds> brian____, how can I get grub to see linux-generic
[03:24] <brian____> The 3rd option down in your selection screen, is it other options, or something like that, older choices perhaps?
[03:24] <Litecoin_Messiah> ChogyDan, sudo ufw status verbose
[03:24] <Litecoin_Messiah> Status: inactive
[03:24] <mojtaba> Any idea?
[03:24] <diamonds> brian____, correct
[03:24] <diamonds> "older kernels"
[03:24] <diamonds> or something
[03:24] <brian____> And there isnt anything in there?
[03:24] <brian____> well, I guess they're not older...
[03:24] <diamonds> I didn't check
[03:25] <brian____> oh, well check there.
[03:25] <researcher123> is there a channel where I can discuss about the performance of Ubuntu 13.04 ? I want 2 understand before upgrading from 12.10
[03:25] <diamonds> brian____, ok trying again
[03:25] <johnjohn1011> mojtaba: maybe someone get get you back to 12.10  or get you an eariier kernel.  beyond what i know.
[03:25] <diamonds> did htis: http://hastebin.com/kuqanejuhi.sm
[03:25] <ChogyDan> Litecoin_Messiah: I don't really know.  have you tried ufw allow 330?
[03:26] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: Thanks.
[03:26] <Litecoin_Messiah> im trying things now thanks
[03:26] <mojtaba> Is there somebody who can help me?
[03:27] <balls> diff between bash and unix
[03:27] <johnjohn1011> mojtaba: i would get a launchpad acct and add some activity as the issue might expire
[03:27] <brian____> mojtaba, try to reword your original question, I just read it and I don't full understand what you mean
[03:27] <mojtaba> johnjohn1011: I really appreciate it.
[03:27] <diamonds> praise god it wors!
[03:28] <brian____> :)
[03:28] <ChogyDan> Litecoin_Messiah: fyi, iptables is the underlying interface that is provided by linux.  UFW is an interface to iptables
[03:28] <diamonds> s/rs/rks/
[03:28] <Litecoin_Messiah> thanks
[03:28] <diamonds> now to set it as default, not "older version"...
[03:28] <balls> diff between bash and unix
[03:28] <johnjohn1011> brian____: mojtaba has this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1133087.   he needs to get to an earlier kernel if possible.
[03:28] <MeXTuX> I have a laptop with a graphic card 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:126] The driver is i915 and the laptop is an Aspire V3-471. With Quantal it freezes randomly specially when I am browsing the web. Shoud I upgrade to Ubuntu 13.04?
[03:28] <mojtaba> brian____: I just upgrade from ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, but when I use kernel 3.8, I got splash TV like screen.
[03:29] <diamonds> http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry
[03:29] <diamonds> yay, sort of
[03:29] <brian____> do you have hdmi?
[03:29] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: subscribe to that bug, and wait for it to be fixed.  That's one strategy.
[03:29] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: Thanks.
[03:30] <johnjohn1011> mojtaba: here is a repo for some of the earlier 3.8 kernels.  i would try to install one of them http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:30] <johnjohn1011> subscribe to that issue so it doesn't go away
[03:30] <balls> diff between bash and unix？
[03:31] <ChogyDan> diamonds: you can remove the linux-virtual now that you have a different kernel working
[03:31] <ChogyDan> balls: you will get a better answer on wikipedia, try looking them up there
[03:32] <diamonds> ChogyDan, sudo apt-get remove linux-virtual?
[03:33] <johnjohn1011> mojtaba: if it was me i would load everyone one of them, then use grub to pick up to where the bug occured
[03:33] <ChogyDan> diamonds: that's just the meta package.  You would need to remove the linux-image-<version>-virtual package  (I think that's the name)
[03:33] <johnjohn1011> that is ever 3.8 kernel rc  -> revisions
[03:33] <cjae> cjae
[03:33] <diamonds> how do I find the version?
[03:33] <etfb> Where is the option in System Settings to change the hotkey that calls up the Dash?  I use the Super (Windows) key as a key modifier, but any time I press it the bloody Dash appears.  I want to change that, but there's nothing I can find that will do it.  Any ideas?
[03:33] <diamonds> --installed doesn't work with apt-cache search...
[03:34] <diamonds> linux-image-*-virtual?
[03:34] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: if you are going johnjohn1011's route, you might as well pick out the kernels listed on the bug report
[03:34] <brian____> uname-r in the cmdline
[03:35] <ChogyDan> diamonds: I use tab completion myself, so sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<tab><tab>
[03:35] <diamonds> ChogyDan, no work :(
[03:35] <diamonds> brian____, 3.2.0-41-generic
[03:36] <johnjohn1011> ChogyDan: how do u find out which ubuntu version matches to the kernel version?
[03:36] <brian____> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-($uname -r)
[03:36] <JediKnite> hi, anyone here able to help me with a Ubuntu install problem?
[03:36] <ChogyDan> diamonds: nothing comes up?
[03:36] <brian____> err no!
[03:36] <brian____> don't type that..
[03:36] <brian____> that would remove generic, my bad
[03:36] <ChogyDan> brian____: that removes the kernel you are currently running
[03:36] <diamonds> ChogyDan, no but removing the uname-r (not generic but)-virtual worked
[03:37] <diamonds> I will run grub-update now
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> JediKnite, Probably describe the problem to the channel.
[03:37] <brian____> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-41-virtual
[03:37] <diamonds> brian____, ChogyDan http://hastebin.com/leqicigato.pas
[03:38] <JediKnite> Just trying to do an install for 12.04 LTS, have it loaded to a USB drive via unetbootin
[03:38] <JediKnite> I select install, but it just goes to the splash screen
[03:38] <diamonds> I don't see linux-virtual there.....
[03:38] <diamonds> sorry, linux-generic
[03:38] <JediKnite> with the 5 little red dots turning white
[03:38] <JediKnite> seems to hang there with no further progress
[03:38] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[03:38] <etfb> I press the Windows key; the Dash comes up.  This is the Wrong Thing.  I don't want it to happen.  Is it really true that I have no option?
[03:39] <brian____> diamonds, in that screenshot I see generic
[03:39] <diamonds> brian____, well vmlinuz
[03:39] <diamonds> is that what I'm looking for?
[03:39] <ChogyDan> JediKnite: try hitting esc
[03:40]  * diamonds wonders if he's safe to reboot....
[03:40] <JediKnite> ChogyDan: okay, booting it up again, let me try
[03:40] <ChogyDan> diamonds: everything looked fine
[03:40] <diamonds> ok rebooting
[03:40] <JediKnite> okay, esc gives me a blank screen now
[03:41] <JediKnite> oh wait.....
[03:41] <JediKnite> spitting out stuff now
[03:42] <ChogyDan> JediKnite: it just removes the splash screen.  hitting esc again will bring it back
[03:42] <JediKnite> udevd[113]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb' [296]
[03:42] <JediKnite> that's looping over and over
[03:42] <JediKnite> something to do with my mounted HDD?
[03:43] <diamonds> removed lowlatency as well, now grub picks -generic
[03:44] <brian____> yea, was going to say that, are you using ubuntu studio?
[03:44] <ChogyDan> JediKnite: yeah, i dunno.  There is some sort of issue with sdb it looks like
[03:44] <diamonds> brian____, I don't think so...
[03:44] <diamonds> well all's well that ends well I guess :)
[03:44] <brian____> Where did you even get these kernels?
[03:44] <brian____> :)
[03:44] <diamonds> brian____, probably apt-get install linux-generic
[03:44] <diamonds> it installed all 3
[03:44] <diamonds> "just in case" (?)
[03:45] <diamonds> big thanks to ChogyDan brian____ meris
[03:45] <johnjohn1011> i can't wait to compile my own kernel..
[03:45] <brian____> I've never had that happen to me, but all good.  Glad that it's set.  So you know, the original thought installing compat-drivers would have worked as well, but way more convoluted and troublesome upgrades.
[03:47] <brian____> I remember not too long ago, being required to build the kernel for most anything.
[03:47] <brian____> You did get a a sense of customization though, not this simple, oh, new module, i'll type modprobe...
[03:51] <brian____> night
[03:54] <shysoft> (Let me know if this isn't the best place to ask this question)   I have a ubuntu vps server through rackspace.com and cat-ing my /var/log/auth.log file today, I noticed that i have about 10,000 failed ssh login attempts per day (for all sorts of usernames but 'test' 'user' 'postgres' 'webmaster' and 'root' are popular ones). Are these attempts to compromise my server?
[03:55] <ubuntuaddicted> shysoft, yes they are but nothing out of the ordinary
[03:55] <balls>  
[03:56] <shysoft> how many tries does ssh allow per minute?
[03:56] <balls> lets try that again
[03:56] <zykotick9> shysoft: yes, that's people trying to get in.  you might want to check out fail2ban.
[03:56] <ubuntuaddicted> shysoft, install fail2ban or something similiar that puts the intruding IP address into a ban list. i only have a small home server and the only port open to the outside world is my ssh port, i get tons of failed ssh connect attempts
[03:57] <ubuntuaddicted> shysoft, you could also consider changing the port from the non-standard port number
[03:57] <jiangfuqiao> ubuntu
[03:57] <shysoft> where do they primarily come from? Is it some guy sitting on his pc just trying out random ip addresses, or is it usually bots?
[03:57] <jiangfuqiao> 有人没啊
[03:58] <zykotick9> shysoft: script-kiddies mainly ;)
[03:58] <jiangfuqiao> 大家都在干嘛啊
[03:58] <TXRoadkill> Anyone having problems with Ubuntu 13.04 and media applications?  I installed 13 last night, and now VLC won't launch, and Rhythmbox won't play internet streams
[03:58] <TXRoadkill> Hey China
[03:58] <jiangfuqiao> 你是ppa没有吧
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> !cn > jiangfuqiao
[03:58] <jiangfuqiao> i from china
[03:59] <TXRoadkill> The English language has 26 characters.  The Chinese language has over 3000
[03:59] <TXRoadkill> It's interesting
[03:59] <jiangfuqiao>  我英文不好啊
[04:00] <jiangfuqiao> 好多都看不懂啊
[04:00] <TXRoadkill> jiangfuqiao> i from china < hello
[04:00] <TXRoadkill> So, what are you going to do with North Korea?
[04:01] <TXRoadkill> Assholes want to start a nuclear war
[04:01] <TXRoadkill> a lot of South East China would be gone
[04:02] <IdleOne> !ot
[04:02] <TXRoadkill> peace, and free trade
[04:04] <TXRoadkill> Anyone having problems with Ubuntu 13.04 and media applications?  I installed 13 last night, and now VLC won't launch, and Rhythmbox won't play internet streams
[04:07] <xen> i want to install covergloobus on my 12.04 box
[04:09] <xen> anyhere ?
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> xen, use with caution. http://iamfuss.deviantart.com/journal/Install-covergloobus-for-Ubuntu-12-04-298574296
[04:10] <xen> sir i get error in this
[04:10] <Rajvi> Hi all
[04:10] <Rajvi> Newbie here
[04:11] <Rajvi> where shall i send a screen shot
[04:11] <johnjohn1011> rajvi: paste.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <debacle> Hey guys, so I tried moving my home dir to another partition on another hdd using "sudo mv /home /media/usr/sdb1". Now I knew something went wrong when it moved 856gb(and was continuing) when my home dir only has around 680gb. I ran "sudo diff -r /media/usr/sdb1/home ~" and there was an error in almost every folder. I created a second root user in case I messed up my home dir, but I havnt logged out yet.
[04:12] <ChogyDan> debacle: yeah, that isn't the correct command.  First off, you should use a copy command, not a move command!  you can always do the delete after
[04:13] <ChogyDan> debacle: I think the correct command is rsync -Sa
[04:13] <zykotick9> !movehome
[04:13] <debacle> ChogyDan, whoops. And that would explain why they arnt the same. Doyou know why the second was larger?
[04:13] <Skapare> debacle: got an external backup or two?
[04:14] <debacle> ubottu, I was following that, but that assumes that my main hdd is big enough to fit two coppies on it. Skapre, I might be able to get ahold of one.
[04:14] <debacle> oh, sorry mr roboto
[04:14] <debacle> *the more ou know*
[04:14] <Rajvi> I don't know how to use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:14] <debacle> you*
[04:15] <Rajvi> I need to show you guys a screenshot
[04:15] <dr_willis> Rajvi:  the pastebinit command makes it easy
[04:15] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[04:15] <Skapare> debacle: your source and destination hard drive die ... where's your backup?
[04:16] <debacle> Skapare, is there any way I could do it without one? Id have to get it tomorow, and im on a time crunch.. and I didnt use one... :/
[04:16] <debacle> mistake no.1
[04:16] <jiangfuqiao> hello
[04:17] <xen> sir i get error bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/xen/Downloads/recipe-1.7/".
[04:17] <peepsalot> ubuntu 13.04 just installed some updates on my thinkpad w510 laptop and prompted for restart.  now that I have restarted i have no access to wifi or even wired ethernet
[04:17] <debacle> Skapare, I might actually be able to get one tonight...
[04:17] <DeathKnight> a really basic/general question: Can ubuntu iso be called ubuntu setup file?
[04:17] <dr_willis> DeathKnight:  'setup file' is a rather meaningless term
[04:18] <Rajvi> http://imagebin.org/256369
[04:18] <xen> wilee-nilee: sir i get rerror bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/xen/Downloads/recipe-1.7/
[04:18] <Rajvi> Please look that this!
[04:18] <DeathKnight> dr_willis, why?
[04:18] <dr_willis> DeathKnight:  because what does 'file' really mean.. of course its a file... but so is setup.exe
[04:18] <xen> anyone  ?
[04:18] <dr_willis> DeathKnight:  its a live-dvd  image.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> xen, Launchpad has a different tar, ou might try pointing at that, otherwise I'm not sure.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> you*
[04:19] <Rajvi> i can use Unity & any appliations. But the damn login screen won't disappear
[04:19] <DeathKnight> dr_willis, ok. I guess I understood
[04:20] <elkng> bash, perl, lisp, emacs, vim
[04:20] <debacle_> Im sorry, i had to change clients, what was the correct command to sync home dir?
[04:20] <elkng> things that unrelated to ubuntu
[04:20] <peepsalot> nevermind, rebooted again and its back
[04:20] <johnjohn1011> rajvi, are you sure that's not the background jpg?  can you try to change the background?
[04:21] <Rajvi> Yes I did
[04:21] <Rajvi> it des not work
[04:21] <Rajvi> I upgraded from 12.10 to Raring,  I also have Gnome DE,, it works fine
[04:22] <Rajvi> something wrong with Ubuntu ldm, i GUESS
[04:22] <elkng> I mean if people fluent in: "bash, perl, lisp, emacs, vim", is there a reasone they choose ubuntu ?
[04:22] <Rajvi> Some one else have also expreicnece the same issue
[04:23] <debacle_> rsync right?
[04:23] <johnjohn1011> rajvi what about if you don't require login, login automatically
[04:23] <Rajvi> That's a turnaround
[04:24] <xen> wilee-nilee: whats difference between covergloobus v i.6 and v 1.7 ?
[04:24] <Rajvi> I haven't tried
[04:24] <jrib> elkng: release schedule and stable release update policy?  Also, the community...
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> xen, No idea, I have never used it.
[04:24] <xen> oh!
[04:24] <ghost__> hey is there a channell for qt ubuntu sdK?
[04:25] <elkng> jrib: there is always debian, with its "stability" all over the place
[04:32] <etfb> I press the Windows key; the Dash comes up.  This is the Wrong Thing.  I don't want it to happen.  Is it really true that I have no option?
[04:32] <Ben64> etfb: you don't have to use unity
[04:32] <dr_willis> etfb:  thats how its designed... so whats wrong with it.
[04:32] <dr_willis> alt key brings up the hud.  windows key brings up dash
[04:33] <ashman2> what does this have to do with freenode?
[04:33] <ashman2> Keep the channel clear.
[04:33] <dr_willis> win+ other things  gives other features.
[04:33] <ashman2> Move along.
[04:33] <ashman2> (you're in #freenode, not #ubuntu)
[04:33] <elkng> "you're in #freenode", what did you just said ?
[04:33] <etfb> dr_willis: The Windows key is a modifier.  It's not appropriate for it to also have another action.  Imagine if the Ctrl key also switched turned your audio volume up.
[04:34] <etfb> ashman2: This is #ubuntu.
[04:34] <ashman2> enough, really.
[04:34] <ashman2> Please, this is #freenode.
[04:34] <dr_willis> looks like #ubuntu to me.
[04:34] <etfb> (Read that like "THIS! IS! SPARTAAAA!!!")
[04:34] <ashman2> Hearts in atlantis.
[04:34] <Ben64> protip - don't feed the trolls
[04:34] <ashman2> enough. please just stop
[04:34] <ashman2> Keep the channel clear.
[04:34] <ashman2> Move along.
[04:35] <etfb> Damn. Need the IRC command to mute individual trolls.
[04:35] <Ben64> depends on client
[04:35] <dr_willis> etfb:  /ignore nickname
[04:35] <dr_willis> is common
[04:35] <ashman2> like that one.
[04:35] <etfb> dr_willis: Thanks.
[04:35] <ashman2>  /ignore <nick> ALL
[04:36] <etfb> So is there really no way to stop the Windows key triggering the Dash?  because that's seriously a bug.
[04:36] <Ben64> etfb: did you still want unity just without that?
[04:36] <dr_willis> etfb:  its not a bug. its a feature.
[04:36] <etfb> I don't mind, say, remapping it to Windows+Space.
[04:36] <m1chael> i just installed xubuntu. my touchpad left/right button both "left" click- it's a bug- i see discussions about it but nothing concrete yet. anyone know about this?
[04:36] <dr_willis> etfb:  it works as  meta key and a action key. I have no issues with it working that way
[04:36] <cantrell> irc.what.cd
[04:36] <cantrell> nope jk
[04:37] <etfb> When I press Windows+Right Arrow, for example, which I set up as the "go to next track" in Clementine, it also pops up the Dash.  Do you get that sort of behaviour, dr_willis?
[04:37] <Ben64> then use ctrl+right arrow?
[04:37] <dr_willis> etfb:    sounds like clementine is the bug.
[04:38] <dr_willis> and i dont recall seeing any conflicts with windows key in any other apps ive sued.
[04:38] <dr_willis> used
[04:38] <etfb> It's not happening consistently. But if I could remap the hotkey for the Dash, it wouldn't happen at all.
[04:38] <dr_willis> if you press and hold the windows key - it shows you the common shortcuts used. if some other app decides to use the same shortcuts.. thats not really a bug in unity
[04:38] <etfb> Oh fuck it. You people are obtuse. I give up.
[04:38] <dr_willis> the window key is used by a great many features of the desktop/dash.  press and hold windows to see a list of the common shortcuts
[04:39] <maglink> How do I make deluge my default torrent client, such that clicking magnet links within chromium launches deluge instead of transmission?
[04:39]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[04:39] <Ben64> apparently the other multitude of modifiers aren't enough
[04:39] <dr_willis> seriously - what app would use windows + left/right?
[04:39] <Ben64> or just... buy a keyboard with multimedia keys, might set you back like $10 though
[04:39] <john_doe_jr> Where is a "white list" set up on a ubuntu box?
[04:39] <Ben64> dr_willis: i bet he set it himself
[04:40] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  a whitelist of what?
[04:40] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis: of IP addresses not allowed to connect to the box
[04:40] <maglink> dr_willis: hardware that's compatible, i'd assume
[04:40] <Ben64> john_doe_jr: you can do that with ufw
[04:40] <maglink> dr_willis: lol, nvm, no context
[04:41] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  there is no such thing by deffault. unless you work on firewall rules. or the services in question
[04:42] <ashman2> e
[04:42] <RainbowW> note to self: md5sum on 450 gig takes a while.
[04:42]  * statik_ slaps steeve1 around a bit with a large trout
[04:43] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi, How can I contact Ubuntu Fonts?
[04:43] <john_doe_jr> how can I determine if a server is exposed to the internet?  The ping has been turned off on this server..
[04:43] <Ben64> !info nmap | john_doe_jr
[04:43] <elkng> why slapping someone with a "large trout" is so popular on IRC ? why not to use huge banana or hand or dead hamster ?
[04:43] <dr_willis> elkng:  as the mIRC users
[04:43] <dr_willis> ask the mIRC users
[04:44] <RainbowW> elkng, it's a default /action in mirc context menus
[04:44] <ball0fire> i use a sock full of old cheese and tomatos for slapping
[04:44] <elkng> RainbowW: now it clears a bit
[04:44] <RainbowW> windows people, you know
[04:44] <dr_willis> elkng:  because the mackrel wasent fresh.
[04:44] <elkng> is there some slapping command for "irssi" ?
[04:45] <dr_willis> elkng:  just a silly alias they have by default
[04:45] <john_doe_jr> Ben64: well nmap isn't installed
[04:45] <elkng> "/action" not working right
[04:45] <Blackey> Where the fuck am I
[04:45] <IdleOne> !language | Blackey
[04:45] <ball0fire> at your puter
[04:45] <joshuad> anyone familiar with installing ms components via winetricks? having trouble after doing winetricks jet40 it just brings me to a nautilus window of a chache folder. nothing gets installed and i'm stuck :\
[04:45] <Blackey> No I last remember I was wacking off at my computer to some harcore porn now I'm here. Where am I.
[04:46] <dr_willis> joshuad:  perhaps ask in #winehq
[04:46] <joshuad> dr_willis: will do thanks :)
[04:46] <SeanTheTech> so this is a help chat room?
[04:46] <maglink> How do I make deluge my default torrent client, such that clicking magnet links within chromium launches deluge instead of transmission?
[04:46] <SeanTheTech> or......
[04:47] <maglink> SeanTheTech: yes
[04:47] <SeanTheTech> ok because im a tech
[04:47] <dr_willis> maglink:  askubuntu.com may have some info on that.
[04:49] <debacle_> test
[04:49] <dr_willis> !test
[04:49] <debacle_> Gracias!
[04:57] <Guest4680> hello all
[04:57] <Captain_Crow> my firefox broke the internet, it says "server not found" when i click on it
[04:58] <Captain_Crow> do i need a driver or something?
[04:59]  * dr_willis bets its 'or somthing'
[05:01] <Captain_Crow> willis, how do i fix it?
[05:01] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow:  determine wht the actual problem is...  No idea why you would think its a 'driver' issue
[05:01] <[deXter]> Captain_Crow, are you chatting from the same computer right now?
[05:01] <Captain_Crow> no
[05:02] <[deXter]> does the computer even have a network connection?
[05:02] <Captain_Crow> yea
[05:02] <dr_willis> start by  by trying to 'ping  google.com'  and see if it returns any info
[05:02] <dr_willis> then try to  'ping 8.8.8.8' see if that returns any ping requests
[05:03] <Captain_Crow> the internet icon is off in the taskbar thing
[05:04] <Captain_Crow> it worked before though
[05:05] <dr_willis> determine if your network card is working. see if you are connected.. then decide which way to go from there..
[05:05] <ndhakara> goodmorning all
[05:06] <Captain_Crow> i had ubuntu installed and the internet worked fine, then i reinstalled ubuntu and now it aint working
[05:06] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow:   run the addational-drivers tool and see if it suggests any drivers..  You keep changveing your story..
[05:07] <ndhakara> I have a problem with online accounts, when I click to add twttier account, there is an error notification; "Applications can no longer access some of your Online Accounts. Choose Online Accounts from the user menu to reinstate access to this account"
[05:07] <dr_willis> in 12.10+ i  addational-drivers is a tab under the software-sources tool.
[05:08] <john_doe_jr> how do I determine what ports are open on an ubuntu machine?
[05:09] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  theres no services by default. so nothing is listening by default normally. so every port is 'open' but nothing is running on them.
[05:09] <smw> john_doe_jr, netstat -ltpu
[05:09] <Vyom|Live> Good morning / evening / night everyone. I am having a disabled option when I boot from dvd of 13.10, to upgrade from 12.10. ! :( Anyone know the reason?
[05:09] <Vyom|Live> Disabled option of "Upgrade"
[05:10] <dr_willis> bbl.
[05:11] <Vyom|Live> Good day everyone. I am having a disabled option of "Upgrade" when I boot from dvd of 13.10, to upgrade from 12.10. ! Anyone know any probable reason?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> Vyom|Live, 13.10 saucy?
[05:12] <Vyom|Live> I dunno
[05:13] <Vyom|Live> I downloaded 64 bit version from canonical
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> Vyom|Live 13.04
[05:13] <Vyom|Live> no, 13.10
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> Vyom|Live, Two things that would be #ubuntu+1 and is a just started development.
[05:14] <Vyom|Live> ok my bad, its 13.04.. shown by About
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> lol
[05:14] <Vyom|Live> >_>
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> not sure why it is grayed out, I did not know it was possible.
[05:15] <andi_> selamat siang
[05:15] <nicekiwi> hey, I have a nividia card in my PC that I want to use. but ive installed ubuntu with the onboard graphics, when i boot with nvidia card i get a blank screen. can I install the nvidia drivers with jockey without the nvidia card being enaled?
[05:15] <dakotawulfy> hi
[05:15] <SwedeMike> Vyom|Live: what are you trying to do? you have an existing 12.10 on hdd, you're bootin from 13.04 dvd and you want to use that one to upgrade the hdd installation?
[05:15] <andi_> hy jg
[05:15] <Vyom|Live> SwedeMike: Exactly
[05:15] <Vyom|Live> but its grayed out
[05:15] <SwedeMike> Vyom|Live: why do you want to do it this way instead of upgrading the existing one when booted from hdd?
[05:16] <john_doe_jr> I have a Ubuntu server that is mapped to an internet network IP address but I want to know if there is a public IP address for the server as well..how do I find this?
[05:16] <Aaruni> Vyom|Live: http://db.tt/1t2FYuN0
[05:16] <Vyom|Live> https://www.dropbox.com/s/biwknonr7nvtlg9/IMG_20130504_102300.jpg
[05:16] <andi_> hy
[05:16] <Vyom|Live> SwedeMike: saving bandwidth.. I already have iso
[05:16] <Vyom|Live> dont have much speed where I live :P
[05:17] <ndhakara> I have a problem with online accounts, when I click to add twttier account, there is an error notification; "Applications can no longer access some of your Online Accounts. Choose Online Accounts from the user menu to reinstate access to this account"
[05:18] <SwedeMike> Vyom|Live: you might be able to use this method instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[05:18] <Vyom|Live> Ok, let me ask another question. Can I upgrade existing 12.10 to 13.04 using the DVD, from command line or something?
[05:18] <SwedeMike> Vyom|Live: basically tell ubuntu to look into the dvd for packages instead of downloading them
[05:19] <Vyom|Live> I was able to add the dvd in software source, but dont know how to use it to update
[05:19] <Vyom|Live> I think "Load Packages on Server from CD" is the stuff I was looking at. Thanks. I will try that.
[05:20] <Biomechd> so my unity seems to have partially crashed after booting twice (first time would let me log in then just said i'm logged in), and i keep getting popups about a "gsettings data conversion" crashing.
[05:21] <Biomechd> i can do stuff, but there's no dash or panel.
[05:22] <SeanTheTech> night...:)
[05:22] <SeanTheTech> goodnight :)
[05:22] <Vyom|Live> Thanks.. for helping. See you.. bye.
[05:23] <dakotawulfy> Vyom|Live: after u have that working in synaptic  go to the update manager
[05:23] <SeanTheTech> ok
[05:23] <dakotawulfy> go to settings
[05:23] <ChogyDan> Biomechd: I had that issue, and I reset my unity settings to fix it
[05:24] <TXRoadkill> You are using 1304?
[05:24] <TXRoadkill> seems to be many problems
[05:24] <TXRoadkill> brike VLC and Rythmbox
[05:24] <Biomechd> i'm on 12.10 if you're talking to me, TXRoadkill
[05:24] <TXRoadkill> *broke
[05:25] <TXRoadkill> Yeah, wish I'd stayed there "/
[05:25] <TXRoadkill> buggy as hell, but the speed improvement is astounding
[05:25] <dakotawulfy> Vyom|Live: then go to updates set up  notify me of a new ubuntu version  set for log-term support versions
[05:25] <TXRoadkill> boots with the screen 'kubuntu'
[05:26] <TonnyNerd> Where can I find disk erros messages on ubuntu? I migrated recently from OpenSuse, and this kind of thing showed in /var/log/messages, but this file doesn't seem to exist in ubuntu (I'm using 12.10)
[05:26] <dr_willis> oddest bug ive got with 13.04 is my hdmi audio worked during beta.. but not since final. ;)
[05:26] <Biomechd> "13.04 is gonna be AWESOME!!! (for us to watch you rage over annoying bugs, that is.)" lol
[05:26] <TXRoadkill> yeah, big problem with multimedia
[05:26] <TXRoadkill> VLC won;t even boot
[05:26] <dr_willis> TonnyNerd:  dmesg might show some info.
[05:26] <dr_willis> VLC works fine for me.
[05:26] <TXRoadkill> I hate beta testing
[05:26] <ChogyDan> Biomechd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/204428/unity-missing-cant-see-top-or-side-panels
[05:27] <TXRoadkill> How about Rhythmbox?
[05:27] <dr_willis> ive seen people with  the 'unity missing' issue in 12.04 12.10 and 13.04 with all sorts of differnt video cards and drivers. ;()
[05:28] <dr_willis> havent used a music player app in ages..
[05:28] <TXRoadkill> Yeah, I've got very old hardware.  Maybe that's the issue
[05:28] <TXRoadkill> Old Dell dimension P4
[05:28] <TonnyNerd> dr_willis, on opensuse it showed msgs about IO erros, from badblocks. Now, I correct those, so it might not be showing anything because theresn't anything to show, but I want to be sure I am looking in the right place
[05:28] <Captain_Crow> dr_willis, it works now, i think my router was acting up
[05:29] <TXRoadkill> It's not like Apple where they can control the hardware
[05:29] <dakotawulfy> TXRoadkill u need alight weight system
[05:29] <TXRoadkill> and I understand that
[05:29] <dakotawulfy> TXRoadkill os
[05:29] <unstable> What laptop does Mark Shuttleworth use?
[05:29] <dr_willis> TonnyNerd:  i imagine  most disrtos log stuff to the same files for that info.  Ive not used suse in years however.
[05:30] <TXRoadkill> Well, if 13.04 wouldn't install properly on an old P4 system, they should have said so and blocked the installation
[05:30] <TXRoadkill> I'm pissed
[05:30] <dr_willis> 12.10+ needs pae hardware. i belive.
[05:31] <lovethecode> what is pae hardware, dr_willis?
[05:31] <Biomechd> thanks TXRoadkill
[05:31] <dr_willis> other then that.. im not sure 13.04 differs in its hw needs from 12.10 much at all
[05:31] <dr_willis> !pae
[05:31] <dr_willis> pae enabled kernel is the default on 12.10+  i think.
[05:31] <ipunch> 98.239.192.0
[05:31] <dr_willis> i get version #'s confused at times
[05:32] <lier_> \
[05:32] <ipunch> hit this with power
[05:32] <ipunch> 98.239.192.0
[05:32] <ipunch> 98.239.192.0
[05:32] <FloodBot1> ipunch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <Bray90820> why can't i see my mounted Android SD card on ubuntu
[05:32] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  mounted how?
[05:33] <Bray90820> i mounted usb storage on my android phone
[05:33] <ipunch> ?
[05:33] <Bray90820> but it won't show up on 13,04
[05:33] <dr_willis> You mean a android phone plugged into the pc? or the sd card FROM a phone? or whate exactly
[05:33] <ipunch> flood bot are you trying to hit me?
[05:34] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  i started using 'airdroid' on android to move stuff back and forth between my pcs.. i wont ever go back to using a cable to the pc again. ;)
[05:34] <Bray90820> the phone plugged into the computer
[05:34] <ipunch> 99.239.192.0 slap this ip with ecatels and net routing
[05:34] <ipunch> (Ping timeout: 256 seco
[05:34] <Bray90820> i prefer the cable
[05:34] <ipunch> 99.239.192.0
[05:34] <bazhang> ipunch, stop that
[05:34] <dr_willis> Bray90820:   the MTP drivers stuff with newer phones can be problematic
[05:35] <bazhang> !ot | ipunch
[05:35] <Bray90820> it's not mtp
[05:35] <Bray90820> it's mass storage
[05:35] <Bray90820> from clockwork recovery
[05:35] <john_doe_jr> How do I ssh into one computer and then forward to another in 1 command?
[05:36] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  Try mounting it by hand then, could show some usefull error messages
[05:38] <Bray90820> i can't even see it in gparted
[05:38]  * Aaruni is away: AFK
[05:38] <bazhang> Aaruni, disable that
[05:38] <ipunch> lol
[05:38] <ipunch> ;)
[05:38] <ipunch> hmm
[05:40] <john_doe_jr> How do I ssh into one computer and then forward to another in 1 command?
[05:40] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  might be best to look up some tutorials on usiing ssh. I know it can be done. but id have to look it up again.
[05:41] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis:
[05:41] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis: I'm looking now
[05:41] <Bray90820> dr_willis: i can't see it in gparted
[05:41] <Pilot_aus> Hi all. I have a samba server i could connect to through a router, but now it's through a switch/hub and i cant connect. any ideas?
[05:42] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  try the 'sudo blkid' and 'dmesg' output to see if its mentioned... could be why its not auto mounting if the system is not seeing it at all.
[05:42] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis: I found this: http://superuser.com/questions/96489/ssh-tunnel-via-multiple-hops but can't figure it out
[05:43] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  can you ping the server? ping it by its ip?   try connecting to its   smb://ip.add.ress.###/ sharename   instead of its hostname?
[05:44] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: I have not tried to ping it. I am trying to connect by ip address and not hostname....its a win 7 client, let me see if i can ping the samba server
[05:44] <Bray90820> dr_willis: it is not listed
[05:45] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  monitor dmesg otuput  or tail -f /var/log/kernel (i think) and unplug/plug it back in and see if anything says anything about the device
[05:46] <dr_willis> its amazeing the # of cruddy usb data cables ive found  in the last 2 years.
[05:46] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: it appears to have timed out :(
[05:46] <dr_willis> id try a differnt cable if you hyave any
[05:46] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  looks like you got some networking issues.
[05:47] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: ive been at this all day. Im having trouble setting a static ip on the linux samba server. Could you guide me through it?
[05:48] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  i just set my router to assign a static ip based on mac.
[05:48] <hulu> what diff between linux-signed-image and linux-image
[05:48] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: I have it connected though a switch
[05:49] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  you got a router on the network somewhere working as a dhcp server?
[05:49] <Pilot_aus> yes, but it only has 1 ethernet connection :(
[05:50] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  err..   you got pc --> switch --> router ?
[05:50] <Bray90820> that was odd
[05:50] <Bray90820> it said journal is not empty replay the transactions before opening the file system
[05:50] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: yes...its ugly
[05:50] <Bray90820> and then it worked
[05:50] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  the router is still working as a dhcp server for the lan.. the switch dosent really matter as far as i know.
[05:50] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  can you ping the router?
[05:51] <Bray90820> dr_willis: it said journal is not empty replay the transactions before opening the file system
[05:51] <Bray90820> and then it worked
[05:51] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: yes, can ping router, just tried.
[05:51] <himanshu_linux> hi
[05:51] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  and what ip is the problem server using?
[05:52] <xen> hey i want to install gnome tweak tool with gnome shell any way to it >
[05:52] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: well i tried to set it too 192.168.1.4, but it hates it and i loose interent connection. so nows its at 192.168.1.5 which is what it gets assigned automatically
[05:53] <dr_willis> Pilot_aus:  so other pcs on the lan cant ping 192.168.1.5 ?
[05:54] <Pilot_aus> dr_willis: no..when i run ifconfig it always says 192.168.1.5 regardless of what i set it at
[05:55] <dr_willis> can that server ping the pther pcs on the lan?
[05:58] <bzm3r> hey guys. jockey is not detecting my nvidia graphics card automatically, and thus not suggesting a driver for download -- i am using wubi
[05:58] <bzm3r> what can i do?
[05:59] <dr_willis> well.. we will suggest you stop using wubi  - since its going to be dead in the near future. ::)   for the short term. You could just try insgtalling the nvidia-current package and see if it works
[05:59] <dr_willis> what is your video card? and is it an  optimus setup
[06:00] <bzm3r> thanks for suggesting that i stop using wubi, but i have to use wubi out of necessity. the nvidia-current package doesn't work properly for me for some reason
[06:00] <bzm3r> i don't have an optimus setup
[06:00] <bzm3r> my graphics card is old
[06:01] <bzm3r> never mind, something is downloading now.
[06:01] <dr_willis> wubi will be gone inn the next  release i belive.  (i think it just barely made it into 13.04)
[06:01] <bzm3r> wubi has the great advantage of not needing a USB drive, an external hard drive, or a DVD drive for installation
[06:01] <bzm3r> and i can use LPVT to make it a permanent install
[06:02] <bzm3r> this really isn't a wubi issue, and i am not sure why you are focusing on it?
[06:02] <Captain_Crow> how do i move the taskbar from the side to the bottom?
[06:02] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow:  basically you dont.
[06:02] <Captain_Crow> so, theres no customization?
[06:02] <dr_willis> if you want a bottom panel. thees various docks you can use.
[06:02] <Bodsda> Captain_Crow: welcome to unity
[06:03] <dr_willis> the panel is not designed to be moved.
[06:03] <bzm3r> where everything makes you want to shoot yourself in the head
[06:03] <helmut_> hi
[06:03] <Captain_Crow> does cinnamon work with ubuntu?
[06:04] <dr_willis> we dont support cunnamon here  - but i imagine theres ppas for it
[06:04] <1JTAAONM3> Dist upgrade gone horribly wrong from gnome 3 to gnome fallback system settings won't close and vmware has 2 failed items
[06:04] <punit9462> hey..is it possible to have ubuntu on samsung galaxy ace ?
[06:04] <dr_willis> with gnome-shell 3.8 having its own native gnome-2 theme/mode - i imagine cinnamon may  fall  off the radar soon
[06:04] <1JTAAONM3> Need help fixing this
[06:04] <Captain_Crow> there any way to get a traditional desktop on ubuntu?
[06:05] <Bodsda> Captain_Crow: sure, install gnome3 or kde or fluxbox or lxde or xfce etc.
[06:05] <dr_willis> if you mean a 'gnome-2' look Captain_Crow   as i said..  gnome-shell is getting its own  gnome-2 look.   and theres other fallback gnome-2 look alikes
[06:05] <dr_willis> !nounity
[06:05] <scarrs> can anyone help me with quake3-server? I have the game installed and the GAME itself runs fine but when I try to run quake3-server it complains of not having pak0.pak... anyone?
[06:06] <dr_willis> or use Lubuntu for an old skool type desktop
[06:06] <1JTAAONM3> (1JTAAONM3) Dist upgrade gone horribly wrong from gnome 3 to gnome fallback system settings won't close and vmware has 2 failed items help pc crippled
[06:07] <dr_willis> bbl.
[06:07] <ra-fi> hi i have try to install gentoo as guest os using virtualbox when i start the gentoo it shows http://pastebin.com/xu5Fb3LC can you tell me what is the problem
[06:07] <Bodsda> ra-fi: is that from ubuntu or gentoo?
[06:09] <1JTAAONM3> It seems like y'all are as helpful as a bull in an elephant stampede cause every time i come here i never getnana
[06:09] <1JTAAONM3> *get an answer
[06:09] <penos> how to install linux from dos
[06:10] <Bodsda> 1JTAAONM3: that will have something to do with your posting style - have fun moaning and do it somewhere else
[06:10] <penos> how to install linux in dos
[06:11] <Bodsda> penos: you can't, you installing linux from a live cd/usb environment generally
[06:11] <1JTAAONM3> Sorry bout the typo like i said pc crippled tryin ta restore but usin irc frlm phone as precaution
[06:12] <Captain_Crow> does linux run on dos?
[06:12] <Bodsda> ... no
[06:12] <bzm3r> wow, some questions.
[06:12] <bzm3r> truly wow worthy.
[06:13] <1JTAAONM3> Its doin a buncha configurin right now after clickin software updater what does this mean?
[06:13] <Bodsda> bzm3r: dunno whats wrong with this channel this morning
 : via vm? no there is no such vm
[06:13] <Bodsda> 1JTAAONM3: I think it's configurin
 : configuring
[06:14] <LifeIsPain> Does Lexus run on Peterbilt?
[06:14] <1JTAAONM3> No i mean a lot of configuring like its beeen for the pas 12 minutes and not even 25% done
[06:15] <Captain_Crow> what is a peterbilt?
[06:15] <gold_> nickserv -?
[06:15] <Bodsda> 1JTAAONM3: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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[06:15] <ra-fi> Bodsda my machine is  ubuntu
[06:15] <1JTAAONM3> A high end semi google has the answers yo seek since this query is off-topic
[06:16] <Bodsda> ra-fi: yeah, guessed that. But is that error coming from the terminal on ubuntu when you launched vbox or is it from the gentoo guest?
[06:18] <ra-fi> Bodsda i launched vbox on ubuntu not from gentoo
[06:18] <1JTAAONM3> (tachyons) everything seen dkms ktux totem python xchat etc
[06:19] <Bodsda> ra-fi: have you tried running the fix it suggests?   sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[06:19] <1JTAAONM3> Oh shiz thats not good if it configurin software-center
[06:20] <ra-fi> Bodsda yes it shows sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[06:20] <Bodsda> ra-fi: what version of ubuntu?
[06:20] <1JTAAONM3> And bunches of lib... packages too fast to tell
[06:21] <ra-fi> Bodsda ubuntu 3.5.0-28-generic
[06:21] <john_doe_jr> from bash ..how do you execute one comman and then wait for the first to execute and then run another computer?
[06:21] <1JTAAONM3> Does anyone have any idea of what has happened here to get my pc to this point
[06:22] <Bodsda> ra-fi: install the dkms first as it suggests    sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[06:24] <ra-fi> Bodsda yes it already installed eventhough it shows the same issues
[06:24] <Bodsda> ra-fi: then run   modprobe vboxdrv
[06:24] <john_doe_jr> from bash ..how do you execute one comman and then wait for the first to execute and then run another computer?...I'm using the & but this is not working from the command line
[06:25] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: command; command2
[06:26] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: if you only want it to continue if the first command is successful then use && -- successful meaning exit code 0
[06:27] <ra-fi> Bodsda please see http://pastebin.com/7JC75zHK
[06:29] <Bodsda> ra-fi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms && modprobe vboxdrv
[06:29] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: this is what I'm trying to do:  ssh -A -t user1@remote1.com && svn co svn+ssh://user2@remote2/svn/project ...is is not working...any idea why not?
[06:30] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: yeah, the svn will only run after the ssh exits
[06:30] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: how can I correct that?
[06:30] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: what are you trying to achieve?
[06:31] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: I'm trying to check out an svn project @ my home outside my companies network
[06:31] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: I know I can ssh into the remote1.com b/c I do it all the itme
[06:31] <john_doe_jr> *time
[06:33] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: any ideas or anyone here?
[06:33] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: john_doe_jr gimme a sec
[06:33] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: no problem I really appreciate the help
[06:34] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: see this works: ssh -A -t user1@remote1.com ssh -A -t user2@remote2.com...I can ssh into remote2 computer from my house
[06:35] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: try this   ssh -A -t user1@remote1.com 'svn co svn+ssh://user2@remote2/svn/project...'
[06:36] <scarrs> hello, installed 13.04 a few weeks ago and now some of my scripts in /etc/init/d are not loading at boot... a little help?
[06:37] <Agostop> ??
[06:39] <vadi2> searhorse broke: it's thinking that my login keyring password changed, when it has not, and I can still use it for login and sudo. I can't unlock the 'login' keyring however, and that's an issue because Chrome stores it's passwords in there. How can I fix this?
[06:44] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: Alright...just a sec...I'm trying that
[06:45] <ra-fi> Bodsda please see this log,got when i execute the above command http://pastebin.com/r8xaK8Cg
[06:47] <Bodsda> ra-fi: it seems that virtualbox doesn't want to build on your kernel - try the package from their site instead -- https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !info vortualbox-ose | ra-fi
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox-ose |ra-fi
[06:48] <l057c0d3r> virtual box is in the repository already..
[06:49] <l057c0d3r> and there is a ppa for virtualbox 4
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox-ose > lotuspsychje
[06:49] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: didn't work
[06:49] <Bodsda> l057c0d3r: did you even read his patebin?
[06:49] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: what did it do?
[06:49] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: it hasn't been called ose for a while now
[06:49] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: bash: svn: command not found
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: tnx first i hear
[06:49] <l057c0d3r> yeah..  he updated his headers..  then recofigured virtualbox and tried to load a module that is missing
[06:50] <Bodsda> l057c0d3r: right.. from the repo's
[06:50] <l057c0d3r> oh
[06:50] <l057c0d3r> missed that part
[06:50] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: any idea if thats from the host or from your ssh target?
[06:50] <Bodsda> :)
[06:51] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: how would I tell?
[06:51] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: to confirm use 'touch testfile' instead of the svn stuff after the ssh and then see if the file is created on your local or remote machine
[06:52] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: still in the 'touch textfile' quotes right?
[06:53] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: yeah, I think the command needs to be quoted - although you could also use   'hostname'   which may tell you quicker which machine it is on
[06:54] <john_doe_jr> ssh -A -t user1@remote1.com && touch textfile worked...
[06:54] <john_doe_jr> this is the command I used: "ssh -A -t user1@remote1.com && touch textfile"
[06:54] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: no - ssh -A -t user1@remote1.com 'touch testfile'
[06:55] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: just closed my connection
[06:55] <Bodsda> john_doe_jr: unfortunately I've got to go - hopefully someone else can help, or maybe try #ssh - sorry
[06:56] <john_doe_jr> Bodsda: no problem
[06:56] <lucido> the non LTS releases are now considered to be like debians unstable releases?
[06:56] <lucido> '
[06:57] <l057c0d3r> lucido,  i don't believe so..  they are just making the support duration less on them from what i understand
[07:04] <hxm> morning
[07:04] <hackoo> GN
[07:04] <hxm> i only wanted to install roundcube and i got it, but now i need a imap server and there are too many
[07:05] <hxm> i just want it for self use so i dont need too much power
[07:05] <hxm> is there a simple and easy to configure smtp and imap?
[07:05] <vadi2> What are the side-effects of deleting the 'login' keyring?
[07:05] <vadi2> Mine has broken down.
[07:05] <yashh> can i cahnge the colour if my launcher??
[07:06] <KidBeta> where would I put headers i want to be able to access from a c program with just #include<headername.h>
[07:07] <KidBeta> nm
[07:10] <bumbar> i'd like to create an alias with custom argument names, how can i go about this?
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> bumbar: by writing it in bashrc ?
[07:12] <bumbar> aeon-ltd, yeah, unless there's a better place for it
[07:19] <sudhi> Hi, I am facing strange connectivity issues on wireless, especially the wpa_supplicant component is creating loads of trouble
[07:19] <sudhi> any recommended channel for debug/help?
[07:19] <k1l_> if its ubuntu ask here
[07:19] <k1l_> !details
[07:21] <sudhi> ok, Ubuntu 13.04 (dist upgraded from 12.10), problem with wireless connectivity, when I try to connect to wireless AP, it does not connect. I expect it to connect but in the /var/log/syslog, I can see wpa_supplicant doing something crazy
[07:23] <korubii> I'm trying to change my keybindings to shortcut some things. What is the syntax for the Super(windows/logo) key? EX <Alt><Control>, but what is the Super key?
[07:23] <sudhi> have a look at this pastie for relevant log http://pastie.org/private/q4pj6v3eopb5hlatlfa
[07:23] <sudhi> k1l_: ^
[07:23] <lucido> how can I find out if my os is 32 or 64bit?
[07:24] <sudhi> lucido: do you have /lib64 ?
[07:24] <iceroot> lucido: uname -m
[07:24] <jbesclapez> hi guys!
[07:25] <sudhi> my internet is not working, please help ! see the pastie above
[07:25] <jbesclapez> I need help on a thing. I am trying to compile a kernel but I face an error. I already googled it but i see no obvious solution so far...
[07:25] <jbesclapez> make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/local/x86_64-linux-gnu/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu- menuconfig
[07:25] <jbesclapez> make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/local/x86_64-linux-gnu/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu- menuconfig
[07:25] <iceroot> jbesclapez: ##linux
[07:26] <jbesclapez> sorry?
[07:26] <iceroot> jbesclapez: i would ask in the linux xhannel instead
[07:26] <jbesclapez> icerrot, please could
[07:26] <jbesclapez> OK
[07:27] <jbesclapez> sorry...I dont know if you guys are the creators of Ubuntu, I am following you for few years and it is brilliant now...
[07:27] <korubii> sudhi, are you positive you've entered the correct key and have it set to the correct key type (WEP, WPA, etc)
[07:27] <iceroot> jbesclapez: this is the official ubuntu channel yes
[07:27] <jbesclapez> I love your work guys! Keep it up!
[07:27] <sudhi> korubii: yep, I am quite positive, if the key is wrong, it does (and has) asked for password again
[07:27] <uw> jbesclapez, the "brilliantness" ended in about 2010 with 10.04
[07:27] <jbesclapez> LOL
[07:28] <korubii> uw, AMEN! I don't like Unity, either.
[07:28] <jbesclapez> korubii, try to disable the network key and test it like that first.
[07:28] <jbesclapez> inovations are not liked... at first :-)
[07:28] <k1l_> hey guys. keep the "i dont like ..." please in the offtopic channel. this is a technical support channel
[07:28] <korubii> lol, jbesclapez I think you meant that for sudhi
[07:29] <korubii> sudhi, try to disable the network key and test it like that first.
[07:29] <sudhi> sudo /usr/share/checkbox/scripts/create_connection -S wpa -K 'my_secret_secret_key' 'DLink-7210'
[07:29] <jbesclapez> OK got to go... have a good week end. Thanks
[07:29] <sudhi> korubii: this is what I am using to test out the connectivity
[07:30] <korubii> sudhi, I'm sorry but you're over my head with that stuff. I usually find a different network manager if I'm having problems after a distr-upgrade
[07:30] <sudhi> korubii: the strange part is that, NM records another entry with 'DLink-7210 1' , and if I keep trying I will see more SSIDs like 'DLink-7210 2' , 'Dlink-7210 3' and so on
[07:31] <sudhi> korubii: suggest me alternative, stock NM is good, but in this case it's not working for me anymore (it used to work just fine till day before yesterday)
[07:32] <korubii> sudhi, i've used gnome-network-manager a few years ago. I can't garauntee that it will work for you
[07:32] <korubii> guarantee**
[07:34] <korubii> sudhi, that was when there were tons of issues with BCM 43xx drivers. it was ndiswrapper or another overlay. I just used gnome network manager
[07:35] <korubii> I'm trying to change my keybindings to shortcut some things. What is the syntax for the Super(windows/logo) key? EX <Alt><Control>, but what is the Super key
[07:36] <savio> Hi all
[07:36] <korubii> mushi mush
[07:36] <sudhi> korubii: super key is the windows key on most PC keyboards
[07:36] <korubii> sudhi, yes. I'm editing shortcut keys via gconf-editor
[07:36] <sudhi> it is usually sitting right to the function key, or sometimes to the left of 'right-click/options' key
[07:36] <dr_willis> i thought  the syntax was 'super/alt/ctrl'
[07:37] <korubii> dr_willis, I tried <Super> but to no avail
[07:37] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com  might clarify what you are wanting to know.
[07:37] <korubii> here is exactly what I'm trying to do:
[07:38] <korubii> I'm in gconf-editor, apps > metacity > global_keybindings. I'm trying to change the show_desktop from default <Control><Alt>d to <super>d
[07:38] <korubii> but <super> won't work
[07:39] <korubii> is there an interface where I can press a key and see what the key is named?
[07:39] <korubii> I'm using 10.04
[07:39] <sudhi> korubii: if the editor allows you to type in the keys, instead of typing literal values, try that?
[07:40] <sudhi> i.e. instead of typing <Super> , just press the windows key
[07:40] <sudhi> does it take as valid input?
[07:40] <BlueEagle> korubii: Are you thinkig of xev?
[07:40] <korubii> sudhi, no, it only takes a text input.
[07:41] <BlueEagle> !info xev
[07:41] <BlueEagle> hmm... apparently it's not the right name *digging*
[07:41] <dr_willis> !find xev
[07:42] <korubii> BlueEagle, dr_willis I did a google search for xev on usage. lookking at it now
[07:42] <dr_willis> theres been some bugs in the past with defining shortcut keys. not sure if they have all been fixed. I tend to just use the defaults
[07:43] <yashh> what happens to a non-LTS version after expiry date??
[07:43] <korubii> BlueEagle, that does sound like what I need. but how do I use it to find the output after pressing the Super key?
[07:43] <korubii> yashh, no longer officially supported. you can still use it, but may have dependency problems
[07:43] <savio> yashh:  no support from community
[07:44] <yashh> that s not so bad right?
[07:44] <savio> yashh: no security update
[07:44] <korubii> dr_willis, all I need is the syntax for that silly key... it's a simple request but difficult to search for
[07:45] <korubii> BlueEagle, I just used "xev" in terminal and hit the Super key. it said "Super_L" so lets try that ;-).
[07:45] <yashh> what are non-LTS versions called?
[07:46] <korubii> no such luck :(
[07:46] <savio> No long term support
[07:47] <savio> Only for 2 years but LTS has 4 year support I guess
[07:47] <korubii> lol from "LTS" to "NLTS"
[07:47] <yashh> 12.04 vs 13.04 which one?
[07:48] <dr_willis> yashh:  flip a coin? if its a new install use 13.04
[07:48] <savio> 12.04 is LTS
[07:48] <unstable> When I add printer.. I have a Brother HL2270DW, brother has LPR and Cups deb files on their website. Though why doesn't ubuntu find this mdoel pritner automatically?
[07:48] <yashh> ok im gonna download 13
[07:48] <dr_willis> unstable:  most likely theres packages in the repos that allready include those deb files.
[07:48] <dr_willis> unstable:  you may just need to install them
[07:48] <savio> But 13.04 have only 8 month support up to next jan
[07:48] <unstable> dr_willis: In what repos?
[07:53] <dr_willis> unstable:  theres a dozen or so brother printer driver packages in the default repos for various printers
[07:53] <dr_willis> apt-cache search brother
[07:55] <KidBeta> is there autoconf 2.69 in the repos yet
[07:56] <devslash> is there anything in ubuntu 13.04 that is a big improvement over 12.04 which has LTS support ?
[07:56] <devslash> I'm planning on installing it on a headless server if that makes a difference
[07:56] <dr_willis> newer drivers, newer packages for most everything.. newer gnome-shell
[07:57] <dr_willis> for a server - i doubt if theres much differanccse that will matter
[07:57] <unstable> Why doesn't the add printer dialog automatically find the printer though?
[07:57] <elkng> "LTS support", isn't it redundant ?
[07:57] <MonkeyDust> devslash  especially for server, stick with LTS
[07:58] <devslash> when i install server, how do i do a manual install so i can install it without xorg ?
[07:58] <dr_willis> devslash:  the server install does not install X
[07:59] <devslash> ok good thanks
[07:59] <dr_willis> thats sort of the major differance btween a server and desktop install.
[07:59] <dr_willis> actually theres only a few other differances i belive
[07:59] <dr_willis> server and desktop may use the same kernel these days also.
[08:01] <bumbar> how can i display with notify-send something that that grep returns?
[08:02] <dr_willis> notify-send  options $(grep options)
[08:02] <dr_willis> or somting like that. :)
[08:03] <dr_willis>  $() anything inside the () get ran and the output is returned to the parent.
[08:03] <jiangfuqiao> 江富桥
[08:03] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[08:06] <svenn> where do I find the hardware requirements for kvm?
[08:10] <lez> Using Brasero trying to burn mp3 audio compilation and the program sits there normalising and the progress bar doesn't move. Any ideas please?
[08:11] <jiangfuqiao> 双显卡好安装么
[08:11] <jiangfuqiao> 怎么我的老是失败啊
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> !cn | jiangfuqiao
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> !kvm | svenn
[08:12] <bumbar> dr_willis, thanks altough i'm getting "Invalid number of options." error, if you wouldn't mind taking a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/5631573/
[08:12] <lez> Using Brasero trying to burn mp3 audio compilation and the program sits there normalising and the progress bar doesn't move. Any ideas please?
[08:12] <dr_willis> lez:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages
[08:13] <lez> dr_willis,  Dont know how to run in terminal? I can du sudo and I'm lost from there?
[08:14] <dr_willis> lez:  err.. just  type 'brasero' in a terminal and hit enter....
[08:14] <dr_willis> I dont think sudo is needed...
[08:14] <SKBX> What's lez trying to figure out?
[08:14] <lez> oK I'll try
[08:15] <MonkeyDust> lez  now's the time to start learn using the terminal
[08:15] <lez> MonkeyDust, I got to go earn money soon so am in rush!
[08:15] <SKBX> Best way to learn the terminal is by using ArchLinux, my opinion.
[08:15] <MonkeyDust> lez  watch how fast the terminal is
[08:16] <dr_willis> best way to learn the terminal is to read a good book on it...
[08:16] <SKBX> That too, or diving straight in.
[08:16] <dr_willis> then start using it.. and refer back to the book as needed.
[08:16] <MonkeyDust> books are for geeks
[08:16] <dr_willis> diving straight in = frustrating
[08:16] <lez> Ok Thanks.
[08:16] <SKBX> Not if you print out a list of commands.
[08:16] <dr_willis> and people miss the fundamentals of stuff.. like why  ./command and /command diffe
[08:17] <dr_willis> memorizing commands is not learning the terminal.
[08:17] <SKBX> That's not what I said.
[08:18] <lez> (brasero:3637): WARNING **: Failed to inhibit the system from suspending: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[08:18] <SKBX> When you print off a list, then you can learn commands from experience.
[08:18] <dr_willis> lez:  warnings are normally not fatal. so  try to make your music cd and see if any other messages appear
[08:19] <MonkeyDust> lez  suspending, like in suspending the pc?
[08:19] <lez> dr_willis, Will do.
[08:21] <ndhakara> I have a problem with online accounts, when I click to add twttier account, there is an error notification; "Applications can no longer access some of your Online Accounts. Choose Online Accounts from the user menu to reinstate access to this account"
[08:21] <dr_willis> So 'online accounts' is telling you to use 'online accounts' ? ;)
[08:22] <MonkeyDust> it's like needing your glasses to find out where you left your glasses
[08:22] <[deXter]> Ugh, that happens to me all the time.
[08:23] <brauleinchen> does any of you use a ymail account with thunderbird? I cannot get mail
[08:27] <homepc> kkkk
[08:27] <homepc> hi
[08:27] <homepc> anybody
[08:27] <homepc> chip-
[08:28] <homepc> ui
[08:29] <sudhi> how do I 'dist-downgrade'
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> sudhi  there's no such thing
[08:30] <sudhi> for better or worse, 12.04 LTS (or even the 12.10) was much better, I am neither liking 13.04 and more importantly, it's not working for me
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> sudhi  if you prefer an earlier release, backup and reinstall
[08:31] <sudhi> MonkeyDust: hmm, how about selective downgrade of network (especially wireless) related stuff?
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade
[08:31] <dr_willis> sounds like a way to break things very badly
[08:31] <dr_willis> and then you reinstall the older version...
[08:32] <sudhi> I am not talking about downgrading the entire Ubuntu version, just network related stuff
[08:32] <dr_willis> and just what parts of 'network related stuff' do you mean? the kernel?
[08:32] <voltagex> hey, I used the partition method mentioned on the wiki - how do I know if the persistent storage casper-rw partition is working?
[08:33] <dr_willis> voltagex:  try saveing some image files to your home. change your wallpaper.. reboot.. see if it sticks
[08:35] <michael_irc> hi
[08:35] <keshav> hi
[08:35] <keshav> hi michael
[08:36] <keshav> !ask
[08:36] <michael_irc> hi keshav
[08:36] <keshav> :)
[08:37] <iaarcee> !patience
[08:37] <keshav> !ask I need help to create a live usb of freedos to flash my BIOS on HP Pavilion dv5 1106 ax of which the bios s/w was provided as exe from companies website
[08:38] <keshav> I need help to create a live usb of freedos to flash my BIOS on HP Pavilion dv5 1106 ax of which the bios s/w was provided as exe from companies website
[08:38] <iaarcee> !ask Hi
[08:38] <dr_willis> keshav:  the pendrivelinux site has numerous tools to make a bootable usb with freedox
[08:38] <michael_irc> sorry i don't know
[08:38] <dr_willis> keshav:  or you might be able to just use 'dd' to image the freedos iso straight to a usb
[08:38] <keshav> i tried ubnetbootin failed gave me following error as Invalid or corrupt kernel
[08:39] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has other tools then just unetbootin
[08:39] <keshav> Hi :) dr_willis
[08:39] <keshav> i tried disk creator it wont open the iso
[08:40] <keshav> 2nd i tried ubnetbootin
[08:40] <keshav> it failed
[08:40] <keshav> i found rufus but i couldnt install it on ubuntu
[08:40] <michael_irc> poweriso in windows
[08:40] <keshav> 3rd my hdd is not getting detected so i can not go to windows
[08:40] <keshav> 4th i need to update my BIOS so that it could detect my hdd
[08:41] <devslash> how much space does a standard 12.04 server install use ?
[08:41] <keshav> it was maliciously made ahci which the BIOS couldn't detect
[08:41] <michael_irc> can you use another pc
[08:41] <dr_willis> you MIGHT be able to use 'dd' to Image the freedos.iso straight to a usb.
[08:41] <keshav> I have one
[08:41] <keshav> poor guy from india
[08:42] <keshav> I am just a newbie to computers
[08:42] <keshav> and I kind of hate windows
[08:42] <dr_willis> devslash:  id say  10gb for a 'useable' system.   but i imagine you can get by with 4 for a 'running' system. ;)
[08:42] <keshav> and can not use ubuntu very well
[08:42] <devslash> ok...
[08:42] <devslash> thanks
[08:42] <voltagex> dr_willis: no dice, no data saved
[08:42] <dr_willis> voltagex:  im not even clear on what you are doing,
[08:43] <voltagex> dr_willis: 4GB persistent storage is a little silly on a 64GB USB drive so I created an ext4 partition labelled casper-rw as suggested in the wiki
[08:43] <voltagex> sorry, back one step, I was using live-usb-creator
[08:43] <devslash> dr_willis: if you use a desktop (a P4 2.4 ghz with 1 gb ram) as a server running 24/7 do you think 1 GB will cut it ?
[08:43] <keshav> how can I install rufus on ubuntu?
[08:43] <devslash> err media server
[08:44] <ndhakara> I have a problem with online accounts, when I click to add twttier account, there is an error notification; "Applications can no longer access some of your Online Accounts. Choose Online Accounts from the user menu to reinstate access to this account"
[08:44] <voltagex> devslash: I think your main issue with that will be power use and ability to decode video
[08:44] <dr_willis> devslash:  installing to a 1gb hd? i doubt if thats going to happen
[08:44] <devslash> no
[08:44] <devslash> 1 gb ram
[08:44] <devslash> 160gb hard drive
[08:44] <dr_willis> depends on what all its doing if its enough ram or not
[08:45] <devslash> like i said. i use it to stream through a web interface that i created
[08:45] <devslash> music only. no videos
[08:46] <voltagex> devslash: would be cheaper to run a raspberry pi, but I digress
[08:46] <voltagex> depends on how much you pay for power, really.
[08:46] <voltagex> devslash: in that case, I'd run ubuntu-server headless
[08:46] <devslash> i will
[08:46] <devslash> i i always do using public key ssh
[08:48] <Ben64> p4 running 24/7 just for music :|
[08:48] <devslash> i know....
[08:48] <devslash> it really sucks but thats all i have
[08:48] <Ben64> raspberry pi, they're fantastic
[08:49] <devslash> but id have to do everything as far as building it right ?
[08:49] <Ben64> nope
[08:49] <devslash> don't you buy it as a pcb without a case ?
[08:49] <Ben64> well yeah... but you can buy a case if you wanted
[08:49] <Ben64> i made mine out of legos
[08:49] <devslash> but what about storage  ?
[08:49] <devslash> just ssd
[08:50] <devslash> which is small….
[08:50] <Ben64> sd, usb
[08:50] <devslash> i don't think the raspberry pi would be powerful enough for my home server
[08:50] <dr_willis> I got a 3TB usb HD on my Pi. ;)
[08:50] <Ben64> it is
[08:51] <Ben64> i stream 1080p over the network with it
[08:51] <dr_willis> err. My Pi works as a XBMC video server with UPNP server
[08:51] <dr_willis> ;P
[08:51] <devslash> what processor does it use
[08:51] <dr_willis> it can do mp3 streams  just fine
[08:51] <dr_willis> ARm 6 or arm5. i forget.
[08:51] <Ben64> yeah 1080p is much harder than any mp3
[08:52] <dr_willis> I imagine a Pi may have more powar then your old pc. ;)
[08:52] <dr_willis> at least for many tasks.
[08:52] <Ben64> definitely has more gpu power if you ever decide to do video
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> a mobile phone has more power than the moon rockets from the 1960's
[08:53] <voltagex> sorry, I forget that not everyone pays 30c/kwH for power.
[08:53] <voltagex> aaanyway.
[08:53] <devslash> the site to buy the pi is the worst site ever
[08:54] <voltagex> element14?
[08:54] <keshav> can i flash BIOS from ubuntu?
[08:54] <Ben64> devjustforfun: you should have seen it at launch
[08:54] <keshav> of HP laptop
[08:54] <Ben64> keshav: very unlikely
[08:54] <voltagex> keshav: probably not, look for a guide on building a FreeDOS USB stick
[08:54] <ndhakara> I have a problem with online accounts, when I click to add twttier account, there is an error notification; "Applications can no longer access some of your Online Accounts. Choose Online Accounts from the user menu to reinstate access to this account"
[08:54] <dr_willis> keshav:  ive seen lapptops thaat can read/flash their bios from their bios
[08:55] <dr_willis> from just a file on a usb
[08:55] <keshav> ok how to install rufus on ubuntu
[08:55] <dr_willis> and whats rufus?
[08:55] <voltagex> so, starting again, I've created a liveUSB but I can't enable persistence
[08:55] <keshav> its a bootable disk creater
[08:55] <keshav> creator*
[08:55] <dr_willis> voltagex:  created with what tools? most have the option to make a perisstant save file
[08:56] <dr_willis> keshav:  have you tried just a straight dd image to the usb? checked what tools the freedos web site reccomends?
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> keshav  what's wrong with ubuntu's disk creator?
[08:56] <voltagex> dr_willis: I don't want the file, it's limited to 4GB and this will be my primary OS until my PC gets repaired
[08:56] <voltagex> dr_willis: I'm trying to use a partition labelled casper-rw
[08:56] <keshav> MonkeyDust,  its not detecting the ISO file i am trying to
[08:57] <dr_willis> i rcall the multios tools at the pendrivelinux site had some that could auto make a freedos usb
[08:57] <keshav> dr_willis,  i did not, cause i am newbie dd seems dangerous to me
[08:57] <devslash> dr willis do you have the latest raspberry pi model b Rev 2  ?
[08:57] <dr_willis> voltagex:  you can resize that file.   cant say ive used a partion for casper-rw
[08:57] <keshav> i have two usb pendrive
[08:57] <voltagex> dr_willis: yes but it can't go over FAT32's 4GB limit...
[08:58] <dr_willis> devslash:  not sure. got mine  about when they switched to the 512mb ram models
[08:58] <keshav> nice i will check pendrivelinus site will be back
[08:58] <devslash> yea
[08:58] <devslash> i think thats it..
[08:58] <devslash> did you get the case directly from the maker ?
[08:59] <dr_willis> i got some little white case on amazon for $10 for one pi... then made one out of plexiglass  for my other pi.
[08:59] <dr_willis> dident steal the kids letos...
[08:59] <dr_willis> legos
[09:00] <keshav> dr_willis,  i am on ubuntu and the site is giving me windows apps
[09:00] <dr_willis> keshav:  look closer..
[09:01] <dr_willis> i think one called 'multisystem' or 'multios' is a decent linux tool. but i forget its exact name
[09:01] <keshav> k
[09:03] <Ylli> Peoples
[09:03] <Ylli> i got this problem
[09:03] <keshav> dr_willis,  got it ,multisystem!!
[09:03] <Ylli> with mounting a 2TB hard drive
[09:03] <devslash> dr_willis: one more question. can you boot the pi over usb ?
[09:04] <Ylli> Whenever i try to mount it (Before it has worked perfectl), it shows me an error:
[09:04] <Ylli> Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/yllisalihu/Volume: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/yllisalihu/Volume"' exited with non-zero exit status 16: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' co
[09:04] <dr_willis> devslash:  nope. but  with 'berryboot' you can make it boot from sd.. then switch over to usb.
[09:05] <devslash> are there 2 different models of pi ?
[09:05] <dr_willis> devslash:  the Model A and  the B - yes.
[09:05] <devslash> ahh
[09:05] <dr_willis> B came out first. ;)
[09:06] <dr_willis> A has less hardware. and uses less power.
[09:06] <devslash> really ?
[09:06] <Ylli> And they're categorized as 256mb and 512mb
[09:06] <devslash> which one has an ethernet port
[09:06] <devslash> the 256 or 512 mb model
[09:06] <dr_willis> B has the ethernet port.
[09:06] <devslash> ok i don't care or need wifi
[09:06] <dr_willis> all the New B's hae 512mb. the old B's have the 256
[09:06] <dr_willis> Bhas 2 USb ports.. A's have 1 i belive
[09:07] <devslash> hmm
[09:07] <devslash> this looks like it could be perfect
[09:07] <devslash> how fast is the processor
[09:07] <dr_willis> 700 to 1 ghz i think.
[09:08] <devslash> which one ?
[09:08] <devslash> you can adjust it  ?
[09:08] <dr_willis> depends on how you adjust it. ;)
[09:08] <devslash> err overclockl
[09:08] <devslash> cool… this sounds awesome
[09:09] <devslash> dr_willis: and how do you power it ?
[09:09] <dr_willis> devslash:  its powered via a usb cable just like your android phone
[09:09] <devslash> micro usb ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> yes
[09:10] <devslash> oh i have one of those outlet -> usb square plugs that can charge it
[09:10] <devslash> it uses 5V over usb right ?
[09:10] <Ben64> yep
[09:10] <dr_willis> you want a GOOD decent powered usb adapter..
[09:10] <Ben64> yeah... don't use a cheapo chinese one
[09:10] <dr_willis> not some cheap $3 one
[09:10] <Ben64> the one that came with your phone should be fine
[09:10] <dr_willis> i power mine from the powered usb hub. ;)
[09:11] <devslash> yea its form my samsung android phone.
[09:12] <dr_willis> with the Pi.   you want to be sure to use a decent power dongle...
[09:12] <devslash> its not a cheap chinese one. its a mediocre korean one
[09:12] <dr_willis> 90% of the issues ive heard of with it. are from  power or cheap wires..
[09:12] <Ben64> and use the shortest cable you have
[09:12] <Ben64> the ethernet doesn't like dropping much below 5v
[09:12] <devslash> yea
[09:12] <devslash> i read you can get one for $5 on amazon
[09:13] <Ben64> i get all my cables from monoprice
[09:13] <dr_willis> i use  one of those Cellphone-battery packs. for a 'UPS' for my Pi. ;)
[09:14] <voltagex> dr_willis: fixed my liveusb
[09:14] <voltagex> dr_willis: added 'persistent' as part of grub's boot cmdline
[09:14] <devslash> over usb ?
[09:14] <Ozera> Can anyone help me with this problem I am having with running Minecraft on Ubuntu 12.04 ? http://pastebin.com/02BuZ4Pf
[09:15] <dr_willis> wall charger -> battery pack -> pi
[09:15] <dr_willis> if i unplug the wallcharger. the pi can still run for a week
[09:15] <devslash> oh
[09:15] <devslash> holy shit
[09:15] <devslash> that is so cool
[09:16] <voltagex> dr_willis: how many mAh in the pack?
[09:16] <voltagex> dr_willis: 5000mAh only ran for 2 hours for me
[09:17] <dr_willis> Biggesti could find on amazon. ;)   it can recahrge my cellphone like 4 times
[09:17] <dr_willis> weights like a pound.
[09:17] <voltagex> dr_willis: 10 000 is the biggest I think.
[09:17] <voltagex> laptop battery with a stepdown might also do it
[09:17] <lucido> I can't download the latest desktop iso, it always stops at 99 percent
[09:18] <savio> lucido:  use torrent
[09:18] <dr_willis> lucido:  start a torrent. stop it.. copy that 99% iso over the torrented iso.. then restart the torrent ;P
[09:18] <lucido> savio, is there a magnet link?
[09:18] <dr_willis> !torrents
[09:18] <lucido> torrents are filtered here
[09:19] <voltagex> lucido: you're behind a proxy then?
[09:19] <lucido> voltagex, I guess
[09:20] <dr_willis> use wget to grab the iso perhaps
[09:20] <Ozera> anyone have tips for my problem :/ ?
[09:20] <voltagex> dr_willis: my thought too, but then you have to teach wget ;)
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> Ozera  what problem would that be?
[09:21] <dr_willis> im still trying to figure out how  'torrents are filtered' but magic links to torrents are not...
[09:21] <lucido> dr_willis, I am with -c from mirror.as29550.net/releases.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <dr_willis> wget has a resume option i belive.. actually you can use rsync to get the iso files as well ive seen
[09:22] <devslash> dr_willis: how many mah is your battery pack
[09:22] <DaVinciIT2> hi all. Ubuntu 13.04. How to add an .sh link to the left bar (unity) ? thank you
[09:22] <dr_willis> devslash:  no idea. i was thinking it was 120,000  ;) but  ie not used it in months
[09:22] <dr_willis> its about 3x the size of my phone
[09:23] <devslash> jesus christ
[09:23] <elkng> devslash: want something ?
[09:23] <dr_willis> got a fancy batrey pack for work.. then they moved us.. so i got a power outlet now. ;)
[09:23] <elkng> "3x the size of my phone", and 0.2 the size of my dick
[09:23] <Ozera> MonkeyDust, i'm trying to make minecraft run on Ubuntu 12.04. I get this error: http://pastebin.com/98xsuhnN upon running the command "java -jar minecraft.jar".
[09:24] <dr_willis> Ozera:  i belive the minecraft docs tell the proper command to use to run it. i think it needs extra options
[09:24] <Ozera> i've tried that as well
[09:24] <dr_willis> theres also a minecraft installer script i saw at webupd8 or omgubuntu
[09:24] <shiznix> DaVinciIT: create a .desktop file for it that Exec's the .sh file, search in Dash for .desktop file name, drag 'n drop to launcher
[09:24] <dr_willis> and you need to be using the right java for it.
[09:25] <dr_willis> and thats about all i know about minecraft.. i cant stand the game'
[09:25] <Ozera> willis, I've tried the openjdk version 6
[09:25] <Ozera> openjdk7
[09:25] <Ozera> and oracle
[09:25] <dr_willis> Ozera:  i suggest using the minecraft installer script.
[09:25] <devslash> as far as usb 2 goes, do you have any issues with a bug hard drive connected 24/7 and power ?
[09:25] <DaVinciIT> shihan: thank you I try.
[09:26] <Ozera> iirc the script did not run
[09:26] <Ozera> unless I grabbed the wrong script
[09:26] <shiznix> DaVinciIT: .desktop file should reside in /usr/share/applications/
[09:26] <voltagex> Ozera: define did not run
[09:26] <dr_willis> devslash:  i  cloned a 3tb usb to a 2nd  3tb usb with my pi....  took it several days
[09:26] <devslash> yea
[09:27] <dr_willis> but it did it. ;)
[09:27] <devslash> not surprised. I'm surprised it worked
[09:27] <Ben64> well usb is slow
[09:27] <shape> dr_willis: check pm!
[09:27] <Lance> hi everyone
[09:27] <devslash> something that takes several days can have a lot go wrong. one power hiccup
[09:27] <Ozera> voltagex, http://pastebin.com/sAhGCi18
[09:27] <Ozera> ^ that is what I meant by did not run
[09:28] <Guest16799> anyone here know to setup epoptes on 12.04?
[09:30] <Ozera> i've tried updating lwjgl, but I i've just made the situation worse
[09:30] <Ben64> Ozera: are you on 64 bit?
[09:31] <Captain_Crow> i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs and it worked once, then i reinstalled ubuntu and tried it again and it said "E: Unable to locate package libdvdread4", is there some prerequired step for this to work that i've overlooked?
[09:31] <Guest16799> yes
[09:31] <voltagex> Ozera: where did you get that script?
[09:31] <Ben64> Captain_Crow: you may need to enable some extra repositories
[09:31] <Ozera> Ben64, yes.
[09:32] <Ozera> voltagex, iirc the minecraft forums via googling.
[09:32] <Ben64> Ozera: ok, theres a workaround for that but i have not had enough sleep today to remember
[09:32] <Ozera> Wrong script?
[09:32] <dr_willis> !find libdvdread
[09:32] <Guest16799> Anyone know how to configure epoptes?
[09:32] <Captain_Crow> what am i not doing correctly?
[09:32] <dr_willis> !info libdvdread4
[09:32] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently?
[09:32] <Guest16799> I installed in an ltsp environment but don't see any clients...
[09:33] <Ozera> Ben64, awh :(
[09:33] <Captain_Crow> so i need to run the updates first?
[09:33] <devslash> dr_willis: what does the backorder allowed/ship order complete mean ? do you happen to know if they're out of stock ?
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest16799  after what I read, I guess you better ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:33] <dr_willis> update does not  'run updates' it Updates the list of packages that exist
[09:34] <Guest16799> thanks monkeydust
[09:34] <dr_willis> devslash:  no idea. I got mine from an american company. and it took like 6 mo. ;P
[09:34] <devslash> oh shit
[09:34] <devslash> are you serious… wow....
[09:34] <voltagex> Ozera: I reckon there's a blank line on the first line of your copy of that script
[09:34] <dr_willis> but that was like 9+ mo ago
[09:34] <devslash> i need one now
[09:34] <bazhang> !ot | devslash
[09:35] <dr_willis> theres dozens of other mini-arm pcs out there. many run ubuntu.  decent  tools for home networks
[09:35] <Ozera> voltagex, I don't think so. I mean when I hit enter there is obviously a \n
[09:36] <Ozera> o in the script
[09:36] <DaVinciIT> best launcher application ?
[09:37] <bazhang> DaVinciIT, for what? choose from the list and decide
[09:37] <Ozera> I don't know anythng about the script. I didn't really expect it to work. I've been trying at this for about 2 hours now. i'm going to stop because fuck java
[09:37] <bazhang> Ozera, no cursing here Please
[09:37] <Ozera> lol
[09:38] <DaVinciIT> I would like create a link ("foo.sh") and add it to the left menù. on google I see that I need to create a link and drag it, but does not works. how to? how to create a "foo.sh.desktop" file ?
[09:39] <bazhang> DaVinciIT, you want a launcher link to a script you made?
[09:39] <dr_willis> DaVinciIT:  find gedit.desktop and copy it.. then edit it..
[09:39] <Ben64> Ozera: download 32 bit java and use that!
[09:39] <DaVinciIT> bazbell: yes.
[09:39] <Ozera> Ben64, O.o why?
[09:39] <Ben64> then you can play it
[09:39] <Ozera> i'm...on a 64 bit sys though
[09:39] <Ben64> so?
[09:40] <devslash> dr_willis: thanks for the help . i just placed the order.
[09:40] <Ozera> why would 64bit not work
[09:40] <devslash> bazhang:  no more talking about this...
[09:44] <Guest16799> no one in ubuntu-server channel to help me.
[09:44] <jgjg> hi, i'm using wicd to connect to my wireless network, but each time i connect my wired interface eth0 looses configuration. Currently i have eth0 configured in interfaces as auto with static ip. Can wicd ignore eth0 and just connect wlan0?
[09:44] <Ozera> Ben64, do you know the apt-get cmd for a 32 bit version? All i can find are 64
[09:45] <Guest16799> still would like help with Epoptes....
[09:45] <bazhang> !details | Guest16799
[09:46] <Guest16799> any help would be appreciated...
[09:46] <bazhang> Guest16799, simply repeating "want help epoptes" will yield zero help
[09:47] <Guest16799> ok then I just try google it hopefully I wont crash the server
[09:47] <Ozera> @ Ben64 http://pastebin.com/r52wj0Jr
[09:47] <Guest16799> that i have here
[09:47] <bazhang> or you could ask with more detailed info
[09:49] <Guest16799> Basically  I installed Epoptes with Apt-get and can't see any computer
[09:51] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/epoptes-client.8.html     Guest16799
[09:51] <rald> no sound in ubuntu 13.04
[09:54] <Guest33725> Salutr
[09:54] <Guest33725> Salut
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !it|Guest33725,
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: he's french :p
[09:55] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, D'OH!
[09:55] <bazhang> https://answers.launchpad.net/epoptes/+question/197285   Guest16799
[09:56] <Guest47380> Hi guys, I have a serious issue. Yesterday you/Ubuntu oushed out some updates. Somehow it break my network in kernel or something, so my school project is not working at all. Worked before the update, but not anymore. How do I revert yesterdays crappy Ubuntu updates?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Guest47380, reboot and use the earlier kernel will get you back online.
[09:56] <bazhang> Guest47380, any evidence it was the updates, and not some PPA on your system
[09:56] <Guest47380> cfhowlett, How do I do that? Grub meny is not appear?
[09:57] <Mokkujin> What is your school project ?
[09:57] <Guest47380> bazhang, Yes I am certain. The problem appear ONLY after the ubuntu official release. It changed some things in kernel etc.
[09:57] <bazhang> Guest47380, pastebin your sources.list please, and the output of sudo apt-get update
[09:57] <Guest47380> Mokkujin, A RPG game over network ...
[09:57] <cfhowlett> Guest47380, to get grub you have to hit the ESC key (I think) immediately after the POST completes
[09:57] <bazhang> !paste | Guest47380
[09:57] <Guest47380> cfhowlett, Okay, does grub save last kernel? I thought it remove them.
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Guest47380, nope.  all kernels are there.  use "older verison of ubuntu" and you'll see them
[09:58] <Guest47380> bazhang, It is a clean install of ubuntu, I havent added any extra sources.
[09:58] <Mokkujin> Guest47380 : If you change something in the Kernel you have do do your changes again afer updating
[09:58] <Guest47380> cfhowlett, Okay thanks, will try that.
[09:58] <Mokkujin> or not ?
[09:58] <Guest47380> Mokkujin, What?
[09:59] <bazhang> Guest47380, please provide the output of sudo apt-get update to a pastebin
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Mokkujin, depends on the specific package.  for instance, my guest enabled virtualbox automatically picks up kernel updates ...
[09:59] <b14ck5n0w> Hi. New to Ubuntu IRC. I'm have a bit of an issue installing RR on My I7. When I install.. I
[09:59] <b14ck5n0w> oops
[09:59] <Mokkujin> oh my fail i read the other post and think you have change something in the kernel but you write the update was changing something
[09:59] <b14ck5n0w> I'm prompted to choose language.. it loads.. and hangs
[09:59] <Guest47380> bazhang, Yes, one sec
[09:59] <b14ck5n0w> last couple of lines show ATA Bus error?
[09:59] <dishantp> hi, i have a doubt related to inheritance in c++!
[10:00] <bazhang> b14ck5n0w, md5 the iso yet?
[10:00] <dishantp> , i want to access an object of ,say class1 defined in class 2, from class 3, any way to do it?
[10:00] <Mokkujin> RR ?
[10:00] <Guest47380> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/xYkkbHJW
[10:00] <bazhang> dishantp, try a c++ channel
[10:00] <b14ck5n0w> Raring Ringtail.
[10:00] <b14ck5n0w> baz: I'm not sure how to answer your question.
[10:00] <bazhang> ##c++ dishantp
[10:01] <bazhang> !md5 | b14ck5n0w
[10:01] <dishantp> bazhang: i always get connected to overflow if i try to do c++
[10:01] <Guest47380> Mokkujin, Yes, it was official ubuntu update. Its strange, my app worked flawless yesterday. Now when I try to connect to my server locally, it does not send anything through TCP AT ALL. It is so strange. I tried to disable firewall, but not the issue either.
[10:01] <bazhang> b14ck5n0w, its a check to ensure the integrity of the iso before burning to dvd or usb
[10:01] <sburjan> Hello. I have recently upgeraded to Ubuntu 13.04 and now when I click on the xchat from the message tray (envelope icon) a new xchat instance is started instead of maximizing the existing one. Could someone help me fix this ?
[10:01] <b14ck5n0w> I see.
[10:01] <bazhang> dishantp, then register, this is not the channel for it
[10:01] <bazhang> !register | dishantp
[10:02] <b14ck5n0w> bazhang: I can tell you the USB drive works with another system
[10:02] <BlueEagle> !ot | dishantp: That doesn't make it any more on-topic here. Perhaps try !ot?
[10:02] <Rand1> I just did an update on my server over ssh, for the first time.  Something went wrong, I got an error message.  The guy who runs my vps is in the hospital, and I'm worried.  Errors were encountered while processing: bind9     E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).   Im not a new at ubuntu, but this is high stakes.   I also got this message during the update process Configuration file `/etc/mysql/my.cnf'
[10:02] <Rand1>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.  [10:02] <bazhang> b14ck5n0w, that seems to rule out the iso as being corrupt then
[10:03] <bazhang> dishantp, /join #freenode for help with registration
[10:03] <BlueEagle> Rand1: The last question is if you want to reset the changes made to my.conf. In most cases you do not want these changes overwritten.
[10:03] <b14ck5n0w> sweet! I'm just curious if it needs to be installed without all of my peripherals (BT adapter, video card, etc)
[10:03] <dishantp> thank you so  much
[10:03] <BlueEagle> Rand1: As for the issue with bind9 that is something wrong with your name server. Should not be fatal.
[10:04] <bazhang> b14ck5n0w, you could try the nomodeset option when booting
[10:04] <bazhang> !nomodeset | b14ck5n0w
[10:04] <Rand1> My name server?   Its on a separate server
[10:04] <Rand1> Is this something I should email the guy about and just go about my business?
[10:05] <b14ck5n0w> I will be right back guys.. I'm going to duplicate the error on this system for you. I'm currently on Windows 8, but have to switch hard drives around and boot again
[10:06] <BlueEagle> Rand1: The following may seem a little unhelpful, but it is important that you know which services you run on your server and what those services do. This is especially true for mail servers and to a big degree, web servers. Unless you are actively runnign a nameserver you should most likely disable the service alltogether.
[10:07] <Rand1> Thanks for the heads up
[10:07] <Rand1> its totally helpful
[10:09] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Hi, well the press ESC didnt work. Only thing that happen is that ubuntu started computer with non-functional pad and keyboard, lol :D
[10:09] <lolipop> cfhowlett, To choose another kernel as you said.
[10:09] <cortexA9> hello, what about the daily of saucy salamander. Anyone tried it ?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !sau|cortex,
[10:10] <lolipop> I really do not have time with this. Fastest fix to revert Ubuntu updates please? I want to rollback into yesterday working Ubuntu installation.
[10:10] <b14ck5n0w> ok.. I'm back
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !saucy|cortex,
[10:10] <loganlee> hi
[10:10] <cortexA9> ok thanks
[10:11] <b14ck5n0w> So I put in my hard disk.. USB with Ubuntu.. and booted. Its stuck on a DOS-like screen and its last line says, "hard resetting link"
[10:11] <Noskcaj> cortex, if you want to help test it, let me know
[10:11] <Ben64> lolipop: it's shift to get to the grub menu, not escape
[10:11] <cfhowlett> lolipop, might need to edit your grub time out option so you see it ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[10:11] <lolipop> Ben64, lol, okay thanks :D
[10:12] <cortexA9> Noskcaj, yes i want to test it
[10:12] <cortexA9> in vm.
[10:12] <Noskcaj> cortexA9, join #ubuntu-quality
[10:12] <cfhowlett> lolipop, also, seems the LEFT shift key is the one to hit during boot ...
[10:12] <cortexA9> ok
[10:13] <b14ck5n0w> Anyone?
[10:13] <DaVinciIT> ubuntu-gnome: hi all. I've a problem. Windows does not have the 'min, max, restore' buttons. I need close it with F4 Key. how to?
[10:13] <bazhang> DaVinciIT, for gnome-shell you need to install the tweak tool
[10:13] <bazhang> !find tweak
[10:14] <bazhang> DaVinciIT, gnome-tweak-tool
[10:14] <lolipop> cfhowlett, :)
[10:14] <b14ck5n0w> hey bazhang? This dos-like screen before the ubuntu splash screen: what is that?
[10:14] <Noggo> hi, ist it possible to hiude the icon for munted drives in the unity launche on ubuntu 13.04 because i want to show only ob the desktop?
[10:15] <DaVinciIT> bazbell: thank you very much.
[10:15] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Ben64: This is the packages which Ubuntu update yesterday: http://pastebin.com/ZMQeZQRP wich broke my distro network. Possible to revert them back?
[10:15] <ZadYree> Hey, I'm having a suspend problem on my Ubuntu 13.04 laptop, I'm looking for a guide to troobleshot that kind of issue
[10:16] <ZadYree> (fyi it simply does not suspend at all, and make some of my processes crash)
[10:16] <Ben64> lolipop: what is the actual problem?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> lolipop, great firewall of china is blocking so I can't see your paste.  Can't see the package.  Ask in the channel ...
[10:17] <lolipop> Ben64, not sure exactly what. I guess the network stack somehow in kernel. My RPG game stopped working after I updated yesterday. It is not able to send anything over network, not even on loopback address ...
[10:17] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Hahaha lol :D
[10:18] <Ben64> lolipop: try booting into a previous kernel and see if that changes anything
[10:18] <lolipop> cfhowlett, I did update-grub now. and it found the latest kernel. Could it be the updates didnt run the grub-update to include the new kernel update?
[10:19] <lolipop> Ben64, yes, will try. I just think it sucks, devs do not seem to test kernel properly before push out the updates. They need to make sure it works with post-triggers for all system libraries, like grub ...
[10:19] <cfhowlett> lolipop, could be although that behavior is supposed to kick in.  My latest kernel upgrades went off just fine ...
[10:20] <lolipop> cfhowlett, I can boot and use Internet, and use the desktop as usual. But internally when running my Mono GTK desktop app, the network do not seem to work. And I havent updates any mono packages or something like that.
[10:20] <Ben64> lolipop: it may be something else, i haven't seen anyone else have a network problem on the new kernel
[10:21] <Ben64> sounds more like its a problem with the application
[10:21] <lolipop> cfhowlett, I would like to disable the blockage somehow. I tried to disable ufw/firewall, but didnt change anything. Also added ports and servers I use, didnt make any change.
[10:21] <b14ck5n0w> Just in case you didn't see my post: I'm having installation issues on my i7 computer. It runs through the process of identifying items.. then freezes. The Ubuntu splash screen does not appear and I cannot proceed to install Ubuntu OR load from the USB drive. Any ideas?
[10:22] <lolipop> Ben64, Well no, the application worked flawlessy yesterday JUST BEFORE I update plymouth and latest Linux kernel. Now it doesnt work anymore. So no, not my app.
[10:22] <Ben64> its the only thing not working on the network
[10:22] <lolipop> Ben64, I can start the app and everything. But when I login over TCP, it doesnt able to send anything through port 2003 to localhost.
[10:23] <wendico> hello, if i want to have both debian and ubuntu, may i have only one swap partition for both?
[10:23] <Ben64> yes
[10:23] <lolipop> Ben64, I guess maybe some kind of security fix in Kernel? But Then i Want to disable it, if it is.
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can reduce the size of a serie photo's?
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> like the whole folder of pictures
[10:24] <lolipop> Ben64, I Guess best thing todo is try to reboot now again, after I manually did grub-update, and if not that work, I press left shift to change kernel. if that not fix it, fuck ubuntu.
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> !language | lolipop
[10:24] <Ben64> calm down
[10:24] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, you mean as in resize a folder full of photos?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: resize each photo inside the folder yes
[10:25] <cfhowlett> wendico, pretty sure it's safer to quarantine both OS's.
[10:25] <wendico> i had windows 8, i installed ubuntu, then devian. all 3 OS boot ok but ubuntu has a kernell panic and freeze after login, any help? i configured the same swap space 8gb for both ubuntu and debian
[10:25] <wendico> cfhowlett: "quarantine"?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> wendico, don't share resources between OS's... but I could be wrong
[10:26] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, imagemagick
[10:26] <Ben64> its a swap partition, it doesn't matter at all
[10:26] <lolipop> Ben64, I am truly sorry :/ I just get frustrated, I have not time to fix Ubuntu because other devs implemented some shitty things, when I am myself a developer. It is not the first time ubuntu make things unworkable. It bricks audio, video, graphics, grub, network and all kind of things. Happen every single time a new release, even if I do clean install. Really, how can devs push out new Ubuntu release without make sure graphics, boot, kernel and audio work
[10:26] <lolipop> . Its a unusable distro if those things do not work.
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx alot mate, ill try the package
[10:27] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, http://www.howtogeek.com/109369/how-to-quickly-resize-convert-modify-images-from-the-linux-terminal/
[10:27] <wendico> cfhowlett: do you mean i should have 2 different partitions for each os swap space?
[10:27] <Ben64> lolipop: maybe stick to LTS versions then?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> wendico, as I understand it, that's a "best practice"
[10:27] <Ben64> cfhowlett, wendico: no... swap space can be shared
[10:28] <Noggo> hi, is it possible to hide the icon for mounted drives in the unity launche on ubuntu 13.04 because i want to show it only on the desktop?
[10:28] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, http://forum.linuxcareer.com/threads/1644-Batch-image-resize-using-linux-command-line
[10:28] <wendico> ben64: then what could be the problem in my instalation so that ubuntu has a kernel panic? im writing from devian and windows also boots ok
[10:28] <lolipop> Ben64, I guess so. But I usuallt assume stable versions is stable versions, even if not LTS. Ubuntu if any distro, should be the one stable. Do not release a new version if its not working properly, even if it is April or October. Wait until next release date, if ANYTHING critical is buggy or anything.
[10:29] <Ben64> lolipop: its impossible to have software work on every possible variation of hardware
[10:29] <wendico> devian was the last system wich formated the swap space and used it clean, thats why i though maybe ubuntu is krashing because of the swap space being used my debian
[10:29] <lolipop> Then I also do not understand why ubuntu should abandon Unity, Gnome and everything, kick out Kubuntu, then reimplement Ubuntu in QT as KDE already have, and abandon Wayland and use another windows manager. Really?
[10:29] <Ben64> wendico: nope, swap is just like extra ram. you don't need a different ram stick for each os :)
[10:30] <Ben64> lolipop: ask the ubuntu devs?
[10:30] <cfhowlett> lolipop, think of it this way: non-LTS are stable but cutting edge.  LTS is designed for the long haul.  Choose your poison.
[10:30] <wendico> ben64: ok, i will boot ubuntu again and see if i can read any errors before freeze and i will be back with my findings
[10:31] <wendico> thank you
[10:31] <lolipop> Ben64, yes, but if something work ONE time, it should not break later on. Issued come up, is being fixed, then maybe one year later on next release SAME bug/issue is appearing again. One thing is audio, which over and over again breaks in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. No change in HDMI output whatsoever in 5 years, and graphics suck ass. Make your own graphic drivers, if Nvidia and AMD cannot provide proper binaries.
[10:32] <robotdevil> i dont need a ppa to install jdk and jre do I ? are those not in repos
[10:33] <Ben64> !java | robotdevil
[10:33] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Yeah. Problem is that Linux distros is USALLY more stable to use when programming than Windows environment. But the one time Ubuntu update break something, it is usually critical and I have to reinstall ubuntu and loose more programmign time. Anyway, thanks for help. I should not wine anymore, Wine does it already.
[10:33] <Ben64> or stop using mono :P
[10:33] <robotdevil> thanks
[10:35] <lolipop> Ben64, Well Mono is stable. But yeah I will not develop in GTKSharp never EVER again. C# is the worst piece of shit ever, after GTK library. I will use QML or QT next time, if I want platform independent code. Also C++ instead of C#.
[10:36] <hallucinations> hi
[10:36] <cfhowlett> lolipop, if you're a developer there IS that Dell sputnik ubunut spin ...
[10:36] <cfhowlett> hallucinations, greetings
[10:36] <bazhang> lolipop, stop cursing here
[10:37] <hallucinations> how are you cfhowlett?
[10:38] <mints> 0.0
[10:39] <robotdevil> Ben64: yeesh. enough choice
[10:39] <wendico> hello, im back from my ubuntu! u r right, i can have the same swap space, now both debian and ubuntu works ok. here is what happend...
[10:40] <lolipop> bazhang, sorry.
[10:40] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Waht you mean, Dell sputnik? And press shift on boot worked. But um, the only available kernel was 3.8.0.19, which is the latest one I presume.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !sputnik
[10:41] <wendico> i dont like to have the different partitions mounted on its own so on install i use the other partitions as /windows /Debian and /Data somehow, ubuntu cant mount /Debian. On boot i skipped with the S the mounting of /debian and booted ok
[10:42] <cfhowlett> lolipop, sputnik is Dell's customized laptop/ubuntu distro for developers.  http://www.dell.com/Learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop
[10:42] <wendico> now, my debian partition sows as a drive Icon on de ubuntu bar, how can i solve so the debian partition will be a folder on my filesystem?
[10:42] <lolipop> cfhowlett, coolt :)
[10:44] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Do you know if there is something else I can do. I really cannot code anything on my software as at the moment. In this stage the app is dependent on network.
[10:45] <cfhowlett> lolipop, sorry, but I don't know enough about the internal guts of ubuntu to fix .. thus I suggested booting an old kernel as a way to get your system back up ...
[10:45] <lolipop> cfhowlett, I tried to disable ufw. But is there any other security check kernel does, when send to localhost, that I can disable temporarly?
[10:45] <Gavrisimo> hey people, sorry for offtopic, what channel can be used for apache2?
[10:46] <bazhang> #httpd Gavrisimo
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Gavrisimo  try here, for a start
[10:46] <lolipop> cfhowlett, I could not find any old kernel :P I only have 3.8.0.19. They just updated that kernel, not replaced with a new one. That update broke or fixed some security block.
[10:47] <lolipop> Do I need to fix something to make localhost work again? Like hosts.allow or something?
[10:47] <Gavrisimo> thanks bazhang
[10:47] <cfhowlett> lolipop, understood.  Still ... over my head.  stay in channel and ask.  Most of the folks here are smarter than I about such matters
[10:47] <lolipop> cfhowlett, Alright I try to ask bazhang :)
[10:48] <lolipop> bazhang, You know what they fixed in latest kernel update?
[10:48] <wendico> Hello, I have 2 partitions mounted automaticly and showing the icon in my unity bar. how can I, in ubuntu, automount those partitions as /Debian and /Windows? I forgot to choose to use one of the partitions on install and the other one /Debian even though i choosed to use it as /Debian it can be mounted on startup and i have to Skip (S) the mounting on every boot.
[10:48] <lolipop> Possible to rollback linux-headers-3.8.0-19:i386 (3.8.0-19.29, 3.8.0-19.30) commit? from 30 back to 29?
[10:49] <transit441> weird
[10:49] <ae86-drifter> wendico, open terminal, type "vim /etc/fstab" and observe your answer
[10:49] <transit441> i had my VPN set up on a kimsufi using 12.04
[10:49] <transit441> worked fine
[10:49] <transit441> now it wont connecr
[10:49] <minimec> Can someone give some help with installing 'portal (beta)' for linux on steam. I am too stupid to do so. I don't even find the game in the library...
[10:50] <wendico> ae86-drifter: installing vim..
[10:50] <ae86-drifter> umm
[10:50] <ae86-drifter> wendico, have you used vim?
[10:51] <wendico> ae86-drifter: im just reading the output, it says /debian was mounted on start up
[10:51] <wendico> but i had to skip (S) the mounting in order to boot
[10:51] <ae86-drifter> wendico, vim is a text editor, maybe nano would be easier if you havent used vim before
[10:51] <ae86-drifter> wendico, try instead; nano /etc/fstab
[10:51] <ae86-drifter> as root
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> wendico  or sudo -e /etc/fstab
[10:54] <wendico> ok ok hehe, i have it, so im reading the file, one partition wich is shows does not mount correctly and one other partition does not show, should i edit that file to solve it?
[10:54] <wendico> should i pastebin the output of the file?
[10:54] <ae86-drifter> wendico, this file defines mount points. if you would like another mount point on boot define it in the file
[10:55] <ae86-drifter> wendico, sure
[10:55] <wendico> ok, so if one of the mount points fails, it should mean the identifier of the partition is incorrect?
[10:55] <ae86-drifter> potentially
[10:55] <ae86-drifter> but probably not
[10:56] <tickyboo> saw linux action show and decided to take on there recommendation to go from 12.04 to 13.04. However when attempting a clean install, I was unable to boot with 13.04 although it worked fine with 12.04, Just to see if something had changed, I reinstalled 12.04.02 and everything worked fine including UEFI. what has changed?
[10:56] <wendico> and how do i find the identifiers of the partitions? may i use gparted wich i know the tool?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> tickyboo  what happens when you try to boot?
[10:56] <Linus123> hello my name is linus and i come frome germany
[10:56] <Linus123> i have aquestion
[10:57] <ae86-drifter> wendico, I think gparted should show you the UUID of each disk. This is what you will need to use in fstab
[10:57] <DJones> Linus123: Welcome to the channel, just ask your question, if anybody knows and is around, they normally respond
[10:57] <Linus123> when i start nautilus over terminal sudo nautilus im not able to add blank documents i can just add folders here in 13.04
[10:57] <tickyboo> without UEFI using the boot usb it simply flashes with with underline character, thats all. With legacy it boots OK and I am able to do an install although it seems to clag up during the install process
[10:58] <tickyboo> sorry with UEFI using boot usb stick it flashes
[10:58] <wendico> ae86-drifter: thank you very much for your help, i will try to find the uuid of each partition and edit the file to set my automount points.
[10:59] <Linus123> sudo nautilus no option to add blank text files just folders in 13.04 bug?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | tickyboo try this
[10:59] <ae86-drifter> wendico, sounds like you know exactly what to do now :)
[10:59] <tickyboo> thanks, I will try that. do you recommend unetbootin or something else
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Linus123  nautilus as root is not a good idea; if you want to create a blank file, use 'touch foo'   without the quotes
[11:00] <wheeler_> hey. i need pacasa 4my girlfriend. its only over wine run? or alternativ way to run this under ubuntu?!
[11:00] <wheeler_> picasa^
[11:00] <lolipop> What kind of network security in ubuntu  it uses? Possible to disable some of them?
[11:00] <Linus123> touch foo?
[11:00] <tickyboo> actually I cant even get grub to run, so I cant enter the boot parameter
[11:00] <ae86-drifter> there is picasa for linux
[11:00] <DJones> !gksudo | Linus123 Something to be aware of, you shouldn't run nautilus using sudo,
[11:01] <bloodaxe> ohh
[11:01] <lucido> I can't download the current 64bit iso from any of the mirrors, I've tried aida2 and wget, it always stops 7.7MB short, this is the wget output http://pastebin.com/xwy9WCdM
[11:02] <Linus123> ok ok but with gksudo nautilus the same problem i cannot add blank document files when i righclick into the white i can just add folders!!!!!!!!!
[11:02] <lucido> tried on two different machines
[11:02] <ae86-drifter> Linus123, that still runs it as root. You are not supposed to do this
[11:02] <wendico> oh, im learning more, i see the partitions showing in unity is because they are outomounted as media/user/partitionlabel
[11:03] <Linus123> anyone who understand my problem?
[11:03] <ae86-drifter> Linus123, I understand, buit it seems like you dont.
[11:03] <Linus123> i think more you
[11:04] <ae86-drifter> nope. Linus123 u obviously a noob.
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> Linus123  what we are sayibg i
[11:04] <Linus123> i will add an blank document files but theres no option to do this  i can just when i rightclick add folders
[11:04] <ae86-drifter> listen or u will not learn
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> Linus123  what we are saying is: don't use nautilus as root
[11:04] <Linus123> but what is when i must add files into etc or so?
[11:05] <ae86-drifter> don't use nautilus
[11:05] <bloodaxe> As i am new to python,which is the best  IDE for python programming???
[11:05] <Linus123> whats your alternative?
[11:05] <ae86-drifter> it is not designed to do that.
[11:05] <Ben64> Linus123: sudo touch /etc/new_file
[11:05] <ae86-drifter> terminal use sudo vim.
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Linus123  if you're skilled enough to know what files to /etc, you should be skilled enough to use the terminal -- but i guess you don't know what you are doing
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> what files to add*
[11:06] <ae86-drifter> he bailed lol.
[11:08] <wendico> ae86-drifter: wow, actually the uuid of the /debian partition does NOT much the one defined in fstab. i edited and saved, im rebooting now to see if now /Debian is automounting and ubuntu boots ok without having to Skip (S). Ill be back!
[11:10] <diverdude> hello. can i upgrade gcc version 4.6.3 to gcc version 4.7.2 on my Ubuntu 12.04 precise pangolin machine?
[11:11] <NeverHere> diverdude, have you tried apt-get install gcc
[11:11] <NeverHere> ?
[11:12] <diverdude> NeverHere, yeah it just says gcc is already the newest version.
[11:12] <ranjeet> Hey Guys, Does anyone know on how to reduce the fan speed in the Desktop PC running 13.04?
[11:12] <NeverHere> diverdude, try apt-get update && apt-get install gcc
[11:12] <Analisa> ran
[11:13] <th0r> NeverHere: according to my synaptic 4.6 is the latest available in the repos
[11:13] <Analisa> ranjeet: do not do it - the fan speed is set to protect from over heating
[11:13] <NeverHere> ^^
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  raring has gcc 4.7.3 , maybe you can try the !backports <-- makes sense?
[11:14] <wendico> beautiful problem solved! learned the fstab leson. thank you!
[11:14] <minimec> ranjeet: You probably can't. On the other hand, there may be some settings in the BIOS to control fan speed. If you have a dedocated GPU (one of these Intel/ATI INtel/NVIDIA) combos, deactivating the dedicated GPU may help.
[11:14] <auronandace> NeverHere: that would only install what is in the repo
[11:14] <auronandace> !info gcc precise | NeverHere
[11:15] <NeverHere> thanks
[11:15] <ae86-drifter> wendico, glad you got it fixed :)
[11:15] <ranjeet> thanks all, I dont want to mess up things. I'll leave it alone it just happens when I run multiple VM's in workstation :-)
[11:15] <NeverHere> i was assuming that the newest verson was already in the repo
[11:16] <Gavrisimo> any idea what to do when you run
[11:16] <Gavrisimo> "dist-upgrade" and it breaks php install on ubuntu 10.4?
[11:17] <diverdude> NeverHere, that did not help :( stil 4.6.3
[11:17] <Ben64> diverdude: do you actually _need_ a newer version?
[11:17] <diverdude> Ben64, yes i do
[11:17] <Ben64> why? they don't change stuff very often
[11:18] <diverdude> Ben64, because i need to compile with -std=c++11 flag
[11:19] <diverdude> on my 12.10 machine i have the right gcc version
[11:19] <HTC-DZ> hey guys/galz
[11:19] <auronandace> diverdude: then listen to MonkeyDust and check backports
[11:20] <diverdude> why on earth is 12.04 not updated....its the same with php5.4, thats also not supported in 12.04 why do they make this old shitty versions on the lts distro :(
[11:20] <minimec> diverdude: There is an update to gcc-4.7 in the precise-updates repo... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc&searchon=names&suite=precise-updates&section=all
[11:20] <Ben64> lts doesn't get the newest stuff
[11:20] <diverdude> minimec, hmm how do i install that?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  they were new when they got there, patches of a version are applied to a release, but no new version
[11:21] <auronandace> diverdude: lts is designed for stability, not latest and greatest
[11:21] <HTC-DZ> having an update problem on ubuntu 12.04LTS. if i go on the power gear and select software up to date, it open the update manager but no updates are found. but in the update manager, only when i click "check" then it finds updates. any ideas?
[11:21] <Ben64> !info gcc-4.7-base precise | diverdude
[11:22] <minimec> diverdude: You have to activate the precise-updates repo in the software sources and do a software update. That should do it.
[11:23] <diverdude> minimec, ok...how do i activate that?
[11:23] <Sagitt> hi
[11:23] <Sagitt> how i can fix this W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Si è verificato qualcosa di anormale nella risoluzione di "it.archive.ubuntu.com:http" (-11 - Errore di sistema)
[11:24] <Sagitt> during sudo apt-get update?
[11:24] <minimec> diverdude: softeare-center, --> menu edit --> software sources
[11:25] <diverdude> minimec, its a server ed.
[11:25] <diverdude> minimec, or actually its not but i only have access via ssh
[11:26] <minimec> diverdude: ok. 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:27] <minimec> diverdude: Something like that... deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates restricted main multiverse universe
[11:33] <diverdude> minimec, nothing :(
[11:33] <diverdude> minimec, i added i, updated and upgraded
[11:33] <diverdude> minimec, but no new gcc
[11:35] <bluehills> hi i have used vnc with qt application in at91sam9g35 board by executing ./qtapps -qws -display VNC:0 , i have created a UI in qt which is used to authentication,is there any possibilities to run vnc without application?
[11:37] <minimec> diverdude: IS the package available? 'apt-cache search gcc-4.7' in a console
[11:37] <diverdude> now i added a ppa instead
[11:38] <diverdude> ahh gcc version 4.7.3
[11:40] <iamwhoiam> hello people, i dont know if there is a specific channel for apt-get, but my question is how to stop an installation of a package without "locking" apt-get
[11:41] <auronandace> !pinning | iamwhoiam
[11:42] <iamwhoiam> maybe i did not make myself clear: the installation of the package begun, and I want to stop it :)
[11:42] <NeverHere> uhg
[11:42] <iamwhoiam> auronandace: though the link is really useful for future reference, thanx!
[11:42] <NeverHere> how bout ctrl+c
[11:42] <NeverHere> ?
[11:43] <iamwhoiam> NeverHere: wont ctrl-c 'break' apt-get? meaning afterwards wont run due to the 'lock' issue?
[11:43] <NeverHere> not sure
[11:43] <gweffer> hellow, how can i make the live usb im currently using into a persistant one?
[11:44] <iamwhoiam> gweffer: i think unetbootin is what you need
[11:44] <iamwhoiam> NeverHere: i was hoping to avoid the locking thing
[11:44] <NeverHere> it shouldn't, i have never had it break anything and then you can use apt-get remove "package" to remove what has already been done
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | gweffer
[11:46] <Rad-> Hey is there any reason that after I boot ubuntu I get a black screen that doesn't say "login" but I can login as if I logged into a VT?
[11:46] <Rad-> I also can't use the VT1-6 for some reason
[11:47] <iamwhoiam> NeverHere: lol, it seems that since the last time i tried to stop apt-get, there was an improvement... there is no locking now! thanx
[11:47] <NeverHere> glad it worked for you
[11:47] <diverdude> wtf. gcc4-7 is installed but not g++4-7
[11:48] <diverdude> this is amazing
[11:48] <NeverHere> diverdude, i thought gcc and g++ where the same?
[11:48] <Rad-> Any idea?
[11:48] <iamwhoiam> NeverHere: gcc is 'Gnu Compiler Collection'. If you pass it a C++ file, it will invoke the C++ compiler ('g++') behind the scenes.
[11:48] <diverdude> NeverHere, apparently not. ofc gcc is for c and g++ is for c++, but i thought they were the same program anyway
[11:48] <iamwhoiam> gcc is essentially the frontend for several compilers and the linker too.
[11:49] <iamwhoiam> from a stackoverflow answer...
[11:49] <NeverHere> well you learn something new everyday
[11:49] <Tri> jhdfwqifrqhywiruj3qop
[11:49] <diverdude> iamwhoiam, so how do i install g++4-7?
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Tri  it works, you're in
[11:50] <wendico> hello, after few hours of using my clean installation of ubuntu 13.04 on a toshiba satellite i realized that im missing my battery status indicator. It is never there nor plugged or unpluged. i realiced after rebooting that my brightness settings is always reset to minimum. Any help? I googled and checked that indicator-power is correctly installed and up to date.
[11:50] <iamwhoiam> g++ and .c file, will return a C++ executable..
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> wendico  system settings, power
[11:51] <NeverHere> iamwhoiam, that depends on how you use it by default it will give you a.out
[11:51] <wendico> monkeydust: system settings, power, looks normal, settings are set to show the icon when battery is present
[11:52] <iamwhoiam> NeverHere: yea, but the a.out will be compiled with c++
[11:52] <iamwhoiam> at least thats what it does for me
[11:52] <diverdude> lool
[11:52] <iamwhoiam> diverdude: i thought 4.7 is installed, no?
[11:52] <diverdude> need to install gcc and g++ seperatly
[11:53] <gweffer> thanks, but i want to setup the current one im using to become persistant because ive installed too much to start again, how do i do it from within the live instance?
[11:53] <wendico> monkeydust, acutally it does not look normal, i have not many options in system settings power, just "supend when inactive" "when the lid is closed..." and "show battery status in the menu bar". is it normal to have only those options?
[11:54] <theos> hi! is gma3600 supported yet? 64bit
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> gweffer  did you install alot inside a live session?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> theos  what's gma3600?
[11:54] <T|ASK> Anyone played L4D2? I experience an Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5631937/ Seems like the path is wrong in hl2.sh. Any idea?
[11:55] <theos> MonkeyDust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_3600
[11:56] <gweffer> monkeydust yes i did
[11:56] <gweffer> in the middle of a data rescue too
[11:57] <wendico> ups i forgot to say, beside the options on the power settings panel i dont have the colums for "on battery" "when pluged" neither i see the charging state at the bottom of the window
[11:57] <transit441> how
[11:57] <transit441> hey
[11:57] <iamwhoiam> gweffer: just to be sure, you used a live usb for data rescue, and the data were saved in the usb?
[11:57] <transit441> how can i search within files
[11:57] <transit441> for a common word
[11:57] <FloodBot1> transit441: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <transit441> like say i want to find the word "nexus" how do i search through a directory for it
[11:57] <transit441> inside the documents in the dir
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> gweffer  a live session is meant to try ubuntu or trouble shoot a computer, not for production
[11:58] <gweffer> im currently using a live usb nd im trying to rescue a harddisk
[11:58] <ubuntunewb9> how do i execute .bin files? i already tried "./file.bin", it's not working
[11:58] <gweffer> yeah, im going to have to restart and install everything
[11:58] <gweffer> i know ubuntu removes installed programs on shutdown, just need to stop that
[11:58] <minimec> transit441: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39200/how-to-search-for-files-containing-specific-word
[11:59] <iamwhoiam> transit441: use grep
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> gweffer  it's because a live session is loaded into ram
[11:59] <transit441> iamwhoiam
[11:59] <wendico> u have to do it before creating the usb dirve gweffer, just mark some free space for persistance
[11:59] <transit441> i never understand how to use grep
[11:59] <NeverHere> sudo find /dir -iname <filename>
[11:59] <Rad-> Anybody know why I don't get a login prompt when I boot ubuntu/
[11:59] <theos> MonkeyDust any idea about intel gma3600 support?
[11:59] <transit441> NeverHere: im not looking for file name
[11:59] <transit441> im looking for words in the files
[12:00] <NeverHere> Rad-, do you have automatica login enabled?
[12:00] <transit441> iamwhoiam how do i use grep to search for a word within a file
[12:00] <transit441> can u give me an example?
[12:00] <Rad-> NeverHere, text login on new kernel. no automatic login. no login manager either.
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> theos  no, i'm sure someone else can help, repeat your question, with details, every 10 minutes or so
[12:00] <iamwhoiam> transit441: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55325/how-to-use-grep-command-to-find-text-including-subdirectories
[12:00] <Rad-> all my virtual terminals are blacked out, no login prompt
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> transit441  try     grep -r "some_text" *
[12:01] <NeverHere> Rad-, im not sure then, sorry
[12:01] <Rad-> Thanks for trying NeverHere
[12:01] <Rad-> Although I might add this doesn't happen for 3.2.0-40-pae only 3.2.0
[12:02] <wendico> im missing my battery status indicator. And, in the power settings i cant see the status of the battery either neither the columns "on battery" "when plugged in". any help?
[12:03] <transit441> its telling me to find this
[12:03] <transit441> .znc/configs/znc.conf.pre-1.0:81:
[12:03] <transit441> i cant find it though
[12:04] <ubuntunewb9> i'm trying to install adobe reader, and i can't execute .bin file, can anybody help? i already made it executable by "chmod +x", yet it still write this when i try to execute it "bash: ./reader.bin: No such file or directory"
[12:04] <iamwhoiam> transit441: what?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> wendico  tip: use dconf-editor, click 'find' and enter 'battery'
[12:05] <betrayd> ubuntunewb9: echo $PATH in a terminal
[12:05] <betrayd> copy the .bin into one of those dirs listed
[12:05] <betrayd> ubuntunewb9: as sudo
[12:06] <ktosiek> Is it possible to have app menus accessible by dbus outside of Unity?
[12:07] <ktosiek> I want to implement something like HUD for i3 (a simple tiling manager)
[12:08] <hxm> please, how to install a imap/smtp server on ubuntu tls 12.04 server? i have multiple domains and i want to use roundcube, but i dont find the way to make dovecot or postfix work
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> hxm  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:08] <hxm> thanls
[12:09] <hxm> thanks
[12:09] <wendico> MonkeyDust: thank u, i browsed the dconf-editor and all the configuration looks ok, i even have the configuration missing in the control panel correctly configured (when to suspend etc...) nevertheless im missing the icon and i belive that configuration is not taking effect, i'will change the configuration to try to blank screen or suspend in few minutes to see if the configuration takes effect
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> wendico  best of luck (y)
[12:11] <ubuntuaddicted> valve released Portal for Linux. I'm really enjoying this natively in Ubuntu
[12:11] <betrayd> wendico: idk how old your system is, but some HW have a BIOS setting 'allow power management to be handled by OS' set to YES
[12:13] <wendico> betrayd: yes it looks like some kind of that acpi bios problem but i have no seettings to play with on the bios. i have a not old toshiba satellite L750-EN i3 6gb ram
[12:13] <dusf> i have a 500gb hdd on my laptop, and i want to dual boot with windows 8 which i use for playing a lot of games, and i would also like to be able to access media from both os. please can you tell me how i should best partition my drive (possibly with a storage partition for media and windows games if that is the best option) and what size to make each partion, including / /home and /boot?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> !partition | dusf start here
[12:14] <wendico> i just changed the dim optios in dconf-editor to dim the screen in one minute, it doent seem to take effect... i will wait 2 minutes without tiping to make sure :)
[12:15] <dusf> MonkeyDust: hi, that will not give me advice on my particular situation and requirements
[12:15] <dusf> it will just tell me how to dual boot, which i know already :)
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> dusf  better ask advice in #ubuntu-offtopic, as this channel is for support
[12:16] <ra-fi> hi when i try to install gentoo on my ubuntu host using virtulbox it shows http://pastebin.com/dUPtJiK0 can you tell me what is that issue
[12:17] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf, IMO you don't need a seperate /boot/ partition. as far as sharing a partition between windows and linux, what's the largest file you'll have on that partition?
[12:17] <dusf> MonkeyDust: this is a support issue
[12:18] <dusf> ubuntuaddicted: some games could be 8gb+
[12:18] <dusf> so FAT32 will not do i guess
[12:19] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf, you can't share games between linux and windows though
[12:19] <dusf> ubuntuaddicted: this i know, apart from wine installed games but lets leave that out
[12:19] <dusf> :)
[12:20] <dusf> ubuntuaddicted: the reason i am thinking of installing windows games/programs on the shared partition is so that i won't run out of space on the win partition
[12:20] <dusf> and i won't waste any space on it either
[12:20] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf, windows can write to an ext3 partition with a driver installed but I think writing to NTFS from linux is more stable so you may want to go with that.
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> ra-fi: did you install that dkms?
[12:20] <dusf> i could use the storage partition for media and windows programs/games
[12:20] <dwarder> i use xshell to connect to my ssh box, when i run my mc command everything becomes unreadable, is there a way to use mc over ssh?
[12:21] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf, personally I would keep your windows partition which has games and programs on a seperate partition from linux.
[12:21] <dusf> ubuntuaddicted: yes, that's what i said :)
[12:21] <dusf> win partition, linux partition ( / and home ) and the an NTFS partition where i can install windows games/programs and media?
[12:21] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf,  no, you said you wanted to have a partition with media and games on a shared partition between linux and windows
[12:22] <dusf> ubuntuaddicted: shared as in they can both access it
[12:22] <dusf> which NTFS will allow, right?
[12:22] <T|ASK> is Left4Dead2 running for you?
[12:22] <auronandace> dusf: i wouldn't share games between wine and windows
[12:23] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf, you can write to NTFS with linux but I would suggest seperating your media and programs partition
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> dusf: or you can loose windows for good
[12:24] <ubuntuaddicted> dusf, make a NTFS OS partition, a NTFS programs/games partition, a shared NTFS media partition for windows and linux and a seperate /home/ partition. that's what I would do
[12:25] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje yes it shows already installed but shows the same issues
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> ra-fi: did you install over terminal or software centre?
[12:27] <ubuntuaddicted> well, i'm off to play portal natively in linux. bye
[12:28] <ajith> overcurrent on port 2or port 3
[12:29] <dury> hi all :-)
[12:29] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje installed only using terminal
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> ra-fi: can you tell us what packagename exactlty you installed?
[12:30] <dury> #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server  using phpmyadmin
[12:31] <dury> everything installed mysql-server, php5
[12:32] <dury> can someone assist me please
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox-qt > lotuspsychje
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> ra-fi: is this the packagename you installed?
[12:33] <ajith> can any body told that one
[12:33] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje i used virtulbox only
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> dury: you running mysql on ubuntu?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox-qt | ra-fi
[12:35] <mizifih> Hi there. I need help with two things. 1st. is the HDMI sound on my ATI card, I have set the drivers with catalyst and all that, the one from ATI.com, but HDMI output is not give as an option, only fictional or something like that (mine is in pt_BR). 2nd thing is my MCE remote controller. How do I enable it.
[12:35] <ra-fi> ubottu is i need to install virtulbox-qt?
[12:35] <dury> lotuspsychje: yes
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> ra-fi: yes try that one from terminal: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-qt
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> !mysql | dury
[12:39] <ajith> port2
[12:40] <ajith> overcurrent on port2 in ubutnu
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !details ajith
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !details | ajith
[12:41] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje i am trying to install above package suddenly a window prompt in that shows, sorry,a problem occured while installing software package:virtulbox-dkms send an error report to help fix this problem
[12:41] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje what to do with that
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> ra-fi: can you install virtualbox from software centre?
[12:42] <bekks> ra-fi: Actually, you dont need that package. Use the official vbox package from their official site.
[12:42] <jaypro> anyone lose the window manager on ubuntu 13?
[12:43] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje please see http://pastebin.com/dbCCLcDX
[12:44] <subz3r0> hi
[12:45] <ra-fi> lotuspsychje i searched in softercenter but it shows no matches found even for vbox
[12:46] <subz3r0> how do I list a directory recursive without the files included inside of the directories? tried "ls -laRD /" but that shows me nothing
[12:48] <subz3r0> checked the man page of ls but cant find anything specific.. or am i blind?
[12:49] <mizifih> HALP! no HDMI audio output using ATI APU
[12:51] <cf16> users
[12:51] <mizifih> woot?
[12:51] <cf16> hi, nothing ; p
[12:52] <mizifih> k
[12:54] <A1Recon> Is there any way to add HDMI audio??
[12:54] <mizifih> A1Recon: same problem here! Using ATI
[12:54] <mizifih> A1Recon: Ubuntu doesn't even mention it's existence, LOL
[12:55] <A1Recon> mizifih: What card do u use??
[12:55] <mizifih> A1Recon: it's an APU E-350 with Radeon HD 6300
[12:55] <tortik> Hi all. Any debugger like OllyDBG for ubuntu?
[12:56] <mizifih> A1Recon: AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics says Catalyst
[12:56] <mizifih> A1Recon: graphics looks like done, I mean, it's working I believe, XBMC is running, now I only need sound
[12:57] <A1Recon> mizifih: What do u run??
[12:57] <mizifih> A1Recon: yours?
[12:57] <mizifih> A1Recon: what do you mean by what do I run?
[12:57] <mizifih> Software I use?
[12:58] <A1Recon> mizifih: I mean dual boot or ubuntu only??
[12:58] <mizifih> A1Recon: trying to kick windows
[12:58] <mizifih> A1Recon: but I have a second machine to run Windows and games
[12:58] <A1Recon> mizifih: Ever run into overscan/underscan problem  in windows??
[12:59] <mizifih> A1Recon: on this machine I'm willing to run ubuntu only
[12:59] <mizifih> A1Recon: don't even know what that mean ;)
[13:00] <mizifih> A1Recon: it actually make more sense using ubuntu on this machine
[13:01] <mizifih> A1Recon: it's for SABnzbd+Sickbeard+Couchpotato+XBMC
[13:01] <mizifih> And sharing, coz it means caring ;)
[13:01] <mizifih> LOL
[13:02] <m1chael> last night i installed xubuntu 12.04 on a new asus netbook with UEFI (what a nightmare that was.) -- now i've got 12.04 running, and my touchpad's right button does not work (it works in windows) .. right click is just like left click. i believe this is due to this "modern" touchpad where the right/left click buttons feel like the same "connection" --- i see a lot of workarounds for this- but
[13:02] <m1chael> none seem to either work- or are way too complex for me to take on. i'm currently downloading version 13.04 and hoping it works. any ideas on this?
[13:02] <T|ASK> Anyone successfully runs L4D2 with primusrun?
[13:03] <mizifih> T|ASK: primus really worth the trouble?
[13:04] <A1Recon> mizifih: I run two systems. One laptop Win7 for everyday use... while my desktop is dual boot
[13:05] <hays> is there a way to remove this message once i've upgraded: New release '13.04' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[13:05] <hays> i ran do-release-upgrade :)
[13:05] <mizifih> Hahaha
[13:05] <mizifih> oh, wait...
[13:05] <A1Recon> mizifih: But the desktop is connected to a 32inch HDTV
[13:06] <mizifih> A1Recon: see, that's what's going on here. I mean, I have this HTPC/Server machine hooked on my TV, so I can enjoy some lazy myself, but this HDMI sound output is a deal breaker
[13:06] <m1chael> i tried connecting to a HDMI HDtv last night, but some areas of the screen weren't visible
[13:06] <adamk> hays: Known bug for some people.  Remove /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[13:06] <minimec> m1chael: You would have to configure the area, you want to use as 'button' area. Just a question. If you tap the touchpad with two fingers, would that generate a 'right click'?
[13:07] <hays> adamk: thanks.
[13:07] <anew> i'm trying to use mail, but i never recieve the email ?
[13:07] <A1Recon> mizifih: yup every time i switch between headphones and TV audio is one royal pain!!
[13:07] <m1chael> minimec: good question, i'll have to get back to you guys on that
[13:08] <mizifih> A1Recon: at least you're getting sound
[13:08] <mizifih> A1Recon: I mean, I probably can use the soundcard, but I want HDMI only
[13:08] <betrayd> anew: i use getmail works with gmail
[13:09] <A1Recon> mizifih: if you want HDMI only use the DVI cable with a 3.5mm audio jack
[13:11] <mizifih> A1Recon: that's being used with another computer, LOL
[13:12] <mizifih> A1Recon: actually, wait... I can switch them... but that's not as hard, LOL
[13:13] <betrayd> sure your neighbor won't mind?
[13:13] <A1Recon> mizifih: Here's what I do, I plug in the HDMI cable to the DVI port of the TV and run a 3.5mm audio cable from the soundcard to audio input of the TV. Does ur TV have an audio input??
[13:14] <mizifih> A1Recon: I actually have this set you suggested being used by another system, but it also have HDMI output, I can just trade places between them
[13:15] <mizifih> A1Recon: If everything fails, I'll just do that
[13:15] <anew> betrayd yeah but i want to use smtp for an application
[13:15] <anew> so i need to test it first with ubuntu
[13:15] <anew> and nothing is being sent with mail command
[13:16] <betrayd> anew oh for that part i use msmtp...
[13:16] <betrayd> to send, that is
[13:16] <mizifih> rebooting
[13:16] <anew> i am just trying 'mail me@yahoo.com' but it's not working
[13:16] <anew> how can i debug ?
[13:17] <TheLordOfTime> anew, are you on a residential internet?
[13:17] <TheLordOfTime> or better, have you configured msmtp or some kind of smtp sender?
[13:17] <anew> thelordoftime residential yes
[13:18] <anew> erm no
[13:18] <anew> i'm sending from my server which is on linode
[13:18] <anew> i installed smtp, i think
[13:19] <Capprentice> Which photo uploaders are available for ubuntu Linux ?
[13:21] <diverdude> how do i upgrade boost 1.46 to 1.49 on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:22] <ThinkT510> !backports | diverdude
[13:23] <diverdude> ThinkT510, well its 12.04 so backports should automatically be enabled
[13:23] <diverdude> and still its not working
[13:24] <T|ASK> miztic: I use Bumblebee, therefore, primusrun or optirun is the way to play
[13:24] <lukecarrier> diverdude, software-properties-gtk can confirm this
[13:25] <diverdude> lukecarrier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632239/
[13:26] <lukecarrier> diverdude, don't run it as root, it uses PolKit
[13:26] <T|ASK> Funny thing, L4D2 runs with Intel HD, but not with Primusrun/optirun
[13:26] <negrean> any one can tell me plz how to install the driver for nvidia video card i try some methods but dont work
[13:26] <diverdude> lukecarrier, that makes no difference if i run it as normal user
[13:27] <diverdude> negrean, dont go there :S its a lost cause
[13:27] <negrean> damn
[13:27] <Nothing_Much> The latest 319.xx drivers from Nvidia have Optimus support (beta)
[13:27] <lukecarrier> diverdude, you're not running under X then?
[13:27] <Nothing_Much> 319.12 to be exact
[13:27] <diverdude> lukecarrier, no, im via ssh
[13:28] <lukecarrier> diverdude, apologies! Then you need to edit the sources.list files in /etc/apt
[13:28] <negrean> i am using an gt 540m i try to install driver for the main site but cant and also i try the bunblebee but same
[13:28] <lukecarrier> backports should be in sources.list
[13:29] <Guest1614> Any drivers for NVIDIA 5200 FX for 13.04 ?
[13:29] <diverdude> lukecarrier, yeah its there
[13:29] <diverdude> lukecarrier, and not commented out
[13:29] <Nothing_Much> negrean, try this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.12-driver.html
[13:29] <lukecarrier> diverdude, apt-get update to download the package lists, then
[13:29] <diverdude> lukecarrier, i have tried that but i can try again
[13:30] <Nothing_Much> Guest1614, Geforce FX is now considered EOL
[13:30] <diverdude> lukecarrier, ok done :)
[13:30] <lukecarrier> apt-get would throw errors if downloading those package lists failed
[13:30] <diverdude> lukecarrier, no errors are thrown
[13:30] <Nothing_Much> The earliest card that Nvidia support are Geforce 6 series and up
[13:31] <lukecarrier> diverdude, then if libboost is in backports, you'll be able to upgrade it now
[13:31] <mizifih> A1Recon: Sup?
[13:31] <diverdude> lukecarrier, by doing apt-get upgrade right?
[13:31] <mizifih> A1Recon: I gave up and just did that, trading places on the TV
[13:32] <A1Recon> mizifih: Im here
[13:32] <cfhowlett> diverdude, or perhaps try apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:32] <mizifih> A1Recon: The other PC using the DVI is now using HDMI, since it's windows, it's easier
[13:32] <diverdude> cfhowlett, uhhh i dare not do dist upgrade....thats mad
[13:32] <lukecarrier> diverdude, yep
[13:32] <A1Recon> mizifih: hmmm
[13:32] <mizifih> A1Recon: And this using ubuntu is now using DVI (HDMI input) + P2
[13:32] <lukecarrier> I did a couple of dist upgrades this week
[13:33] <lukecarrier> both worked
[13:33] <diverdude> lukecarrier, it just says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. :(
[13:33] <cfhowlett> diverdude, dist-upgrade will NOT bring you to 13.04.  It brings in all upgraded packages for the current distro.
[13:33] <luis_> hi all
[13:33] <Guest1614> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.36-pkg1 works great on 12.04 LTS but I cant get  it to work on 13.04
[13:33] <diverdude> cfhowlett, ohhh okay
[13:33] <mizifih> A1Recon: something I didn't noticed before, the DVI input makes image better on the TV
[13:33] <ThinkT510> diverdude: dist-upgrade will upgrade those 4 packages
[13:33] <mizifih> A1Recon: Doesn't matter it's windows or ubuntu
[13:33] <diverdude> is that risk free?
[13:33] <luis_> i need  help with epoptes
[13:34] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | diverdude
[13:34] <luis_> im using in a ltsp enviroment
[13:34] <mizifih> A1Recon: thanks for your tip. And I have installed LIRC and my MCE remote "magically" start working. Looks like I'm all set
[13:34] <diverdude> doing dist-upgrade now
[13:35] <mizifih> later folks! carry on!
[13:35]  * cfhowlett ... runs apt-get update && apt-get uprade && apt-get dist-upgrade every week with no progblems
[13:36] <A1Recon> mizfih: K
[13:36] <diverdude> cfhowlett, i still have BOOST_LIB_VERSION "1_46_1" :(
[13:36] <diverdude> cfhowlett, i need 1.49
[13:36] <diverdude> or newer
[13:36] <lukecarrier> diverdude, look for a PPA then
[13:36] <lucido> I simply can't download the 13.04 desktop amd64 iso from anywhere, it always stops at 99 percent
[13:36] <A1Recon> mizifih: . is this your first time with ubuntu??
[13:36] <lukecarrier> diverdude, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=boost
[13:37] <diverdude> lukecarrier, well i actually afdded this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~jkeiren/+archive/ppa
[13:37] <diverdude> lukecarrier, and did apt-get install libboost-dev-all but also did not help
[13:39] <diverdude> lukecarrier, this is the libboost i have available: http://imagebin.org/256405
[13:39] <diverdude> by tab-completion
[13:39] <lukecarrier> diverdude, :s
[13:40] <diverdude> lukecarrier, what could i be missing?
[13:40] <A1Recon> mizifih: where did u get info about XBMC??
[13:40] <lukecarrier> diverdude, check $ apt-cache search boost
[13:41] <ThinkT510> A1Recon: he left about 10 mins ago
[13:41] <lukecarrier> diverdude, you'll need some grepfu to get relevant lines, but I'm wondering if the package is libboost1.49 or sth
[13:41] <diverdude> lukecarrier, that gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632274/
[13:41] <anew> what was the command to search all files within a folder for some text ?
[13:42] <lukecarrier> diverdude, line 146
[13:42] <lukecarrier> diverdude, $ sudo apt-get install libboost1.49
[13:43] <diverdude> ahhh 314mb
[13:43] <diverdude> :D
[13:43] <diverdude> 50% done now
[13:43] <lukecarrier> diverdude, have fun
[13:43] <diverdude> thats done now
[13:43] <diverdude> lets see if it works
[13:44] <udhayaraj> hi any body der
[13:44] <diverdude> udhayaraj, oh yes everybody is here
[13:44] <Belial> is there anyone using a patched nautilus 3.4.2 in 13.04?
[13:44] <Belial> when i installed it i lost my quicklists in the launcher
[13:45] <udhayaraj> hmm , can any one sa wt kid of chat is this
[13:45] <diverdude> lukecarrier, version.hpp looks great now :) lemme check compile status :D
[13:45] <ThinkT510> udhayaraj: ubuntu support channel
[13:45] <diverdude> lukecarrier, halleluja - your my saviour man :)
[13:45] <lukecarrier> diverdude, glad it works :)
[13:46] <udhayaraj> hmm  super :)
[13:46] <diverdude> lukecarrier, thanks
[13:46] <lukecarrier> diverdude, yw
[13:46] <nascentmind> Hi. When ubuntu starts it resets my cmos clock to 12:30 everytime.. Why is this? How can I fix this?
[13:47] <luis_> i like  help with Epoptes
[13:47] <luis_> Basically I cant view the clients any ideas?
[13:48] <kimir> After upgrade from 12.10->13.04 I got only 1 workspace. How can I fix this?
[13:49] <yeehi> Is there a package that monitors one's VPN connection and immediately halts traffic if the VPN connection is lost?
[13:51] <Analisa> yeehi: if you loose the connection traffic will stop
[13:54] <lukecarrier> Anyone know how to shut Skype's incessant static up? Every notification sound is garbled :/
[13:54] <cerv0_> hello evrybody need help, I have an executable with the following permitions:
[13:54] <cerv0_> -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 7411 mai    4 11:51 getuid
[13:54] <cerv0_> and i'm having two user with the following id
[13:54] <cerv0_> USER1{uid=1000(cerv0) gid=1000(cerv0) groups=1000(cerv0),
[13:54] <cerv0_> 4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),124(sambashare)}
[13:54] <cerv0_> USER2:uid=1001(testeur) gid=1001(testeur) groups=1001(testeur)
[13:54] <FloodBot1> cerv0_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <ctxmen> praise him
[13:55] <cerv0_> sorry for flooding but realy need help
[13:56] <lukecarrier> cerv0_, pastebin loves you
[13:56] <cerv0_> lol yes i know
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !paste|cerv0_,
[13:57] <cerv0_> ok ok ok ok i got it
[13:58] <cerv0_> you blame me it's ok but i hope i'll have an answer
[13:58] <A1Recon> when i run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"   it says [sudo] password for user:    What  do I enter here
[13:59] <ThinkT510> cerv0_: we haven't seen your question yet
[13:59] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, the password you created for the first account
[13:59] <Sagitt> where are icon resources in ubuntu?
[13:59] <lukecarrier> Sagitt, /usr/share/icons
[14:00] <cerv0_> ok ThinKT510 this is my question http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632321/
[14:01] <anew> is there some special package i need to download in ubuntu to be able to upload images to my website ?
[14:02] <A1Recon> cfhowlett: i am typing the password but nothing is being displayed as in the cursor stays where it is......
[14:02] <lukecarrier> A1Recon, that's normal; it's a security feature
[14:02] <cerv0_> ubottu http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632321/
[14:03] <varun_> cerv0_, try "sudo adduser testeur cerv0"
[14:03] <cerv0_> cfhowlett //paste.ubuntu.com/5632321/
[14:03] <anew>  sudo apt-get install php-gd
[14:03] <anew>  when i run this it says unable to locate package
[14:04] <lukecarrier> anew, sudo apt-get install php5-gd
[14:05] <cerv0_> varun Permission denied
[14:05] <ory> hi everyone,
[14:05] <ory> how can i create a really limited user account?
[14:05] <koko_zk> join ubuntu
[14:05] <varun_> cerv0_, did you try the adduser command? From which user account?
[14:06] <ory> that cannot change wallpaper open settings
[14:06] <ory> or do other things
[14:06] <ctxmen> ubuntu is commercial fuck it has amazon link!! better use linux mint
[14:06] <ory> like that
[14:06] <cerv0_> varun i did it from cerv0
[14:06] <petan> hi can someone help me fix my webcam
[14:06] <cerv0_> it's the main account
[14:07] <varun_> cerv0_, I see the problem. The file is owned by 'root'
[14:07] <petan> it is integrated in laptop and since I reinstalled ubuntu it doesn't work
[14:07] <Sagitt> how i can give an icon to a folder withouth the square around it?
[14:07] <CiSense> hi just installed 13.04 - two basic questions: where should ppa packages be located? How can a shell script with execute perms inside that ppa folder be started without opening a terminal each time?
[14:07] <cerv0_> varun yeah i'm the one who did it
[14:08] <GodsFlaw> silly install question.
[14:08] <varun_> Change its owner to cerv0_ with "sudo chown cerv0_ <the name of file>
[14:08] <cerv0_> but normaly with those permition if cerv0 can execute the programm why not testeur
[14:08] <GodsFlaw> will I have any problems with dule boot if I install ubuntu on a new drive.
[14:08] <petan> ok, so if there was someone who can tell me how to fix webcam, please ping me, because this channel is hard to read
[14:09] <varun_> cerv0_, because the current permissions of the file allow only the owner and the 'owner's group' to execute the file.
[14:09] <cerv0_> you are not geting me my purpose is not to make testeur execute the program but it's to undestand how the permition on file is working
 cerv0_, because the current permissions of the file allow only the owner and the 'owner's group' to execute the file.
[14:09] <CiSense> petran hi, i'm trying to fix mine too .. did you read this? http://www.matthartley.com/webcam-drivers-for-ubuntu/
[14:09] <cerv0_> but this is the problem
[14:09] <ThinkT510> GodsFlaw: dual booting is easy and can be easier if you are using more than 1 harddrive
[14:10] <cerv0_> normaly if it was only to owner who is able to execute the program why cerv0 to is able to do it
[14:10] <cerv0_> and not testeur
[14:10] <ttlt> why does dash application menue is so unstable???
[14:10] <johnjohn1011> is there a decent gui to working with fstab?
[14:11] <cerv0_> because cerv0 is not the owner of the file and he doesn't bellong to the group of the owner
[14:11] <ThinkT510> johnjohn1011: its just a text file, you don't need a gui
[14:11] <petan> CiSense my nick is petan, but I will read it, thanks
[14:11] <betrayd> GodsFlaw: your problem will be like, how much/what size for media and data
[14:11] <ThinkT510> !fstab | johnjohn1011
[14:12] <GodsFlaw> Thanks ThinkT510.
[14:12] <GodsFlaw> installing new 256 ssd have windows on a 128.  Have other media drives ntfs for media but my understandig is ntfs can be mounted from ubuntu.
[14:13] <ThinkT510> GodsFlaw: yes, ubuntu reads and writes ntfs just fine
[14:13] <varun_> cerv0_, not sure, but I believe the membership of the adm group may be the reason here.
[14:13] <petan> CiSense it isn't really helpful article :/ both commands don't work as the kernel modules aren't present in my system, also it's not usb camera
[14:14] <Kurza> hello, does anyone know a PPA, source or something to get PHP 5.3.3 or PHP 5.4.x on ubuntu 10.04 LTS as a package, because I'm unable to build it from its source right now
[14:14] <cerv0_> yeah this may be the reason
[14:14] <johnjohn1011> ThinkT510: well I want to put another partition on my hard drive to mount instead of expanding my existing partiion.
[14:14] <johnjohn1011> fstab looks tricky.
[14:15] <cerv0_> varun_ but normaly when i add the bit set- uid  testeur should be able to execute the programm isn't it
[14:15] <CiSense> petan, sorry about your nick ... well you now have more information, i have the modules and my cam doesn't work
[14:16] <lucido> For the love of god, why can I only download 99 percent of the iso??? wget output: http://pastebin.com/xwy9WCdM
[14:17] <varun_> cerv0_, If you can, try adding the second user to the adm group - "sudo adduser testeur adm". Haven't played with UIDs much, so not sure what you mean with that
[14:17] <CiSense> lucido, maybe it's that evil 1% :)
[14:18] <lucido> CiSense, I've tried everything
[14:18] <caelan> Hello, I'm having a problem with the Audio in Ubuntu 13.04. Basically, when sound is playing, no matter what application, the volume level will randomly fluctuate every now and then, causing the sound to pop. I have watched the volume slider blink very quickly first hand. I am unsure of why this is happening. I have looked on Google, but gotten no definitive answer. Thanks, Caelan.
[14:19] <betrayd>  lucido, run the chksum now
[14:19] <betrayd> might be a 'no time to say goodbye' thing
[14:19] <lucido> betrayd, it says it doesnt match
[14:19] <lucido> file size is smaller too
[14:19] <betrayd> well it did sound romantic there for a moment
[14:19] <CiSense> lucido, how long did you wait for it to complete?
[14:19] <cerv0_> varun thks
[14:20] <cerv0_> but the problem is still there
[14:20] <cfhowlett> lucido, garbage in, garbage out is still true
[14:20] <cfhowlett> lucido, and use torrents to get the complete iso.
[14:20] <lucido> CiSense, hours, on two machines, using aria, wget and firefoxs' built in dl manager, what garbage?
[14:21] <lucido> cfhowlett, I cant use torrents on my connection, filtered
[14:21] <petan> CiSense is there a way to recognize which camera I have and which driver I need?
[14:21] <varun_> cerv0_, are you just trying to learn the basics or need something done?
[14:21] <CiSense> lucido, can you ftp other binary files ok?
[14:22] <lucido> CiSense, yes, for example the md5sum files
[14:22] <lucido> tried multiple mirrors
[14:23] <lucido> I'm in the twilight zone...
[14:23] <cerv0_> varun_ i'm not trying to learn the basic i was doing a system programming in c on ubuntu and i faced this problem
[14:23] <CiSense> lucido, as cfhowlett says use a torrent, i got my 13.04 iso thatway, no probs
[14:23] <cfhowlett> lucido, take a laptop off campus.  go to a coffee shop and torrent that beast
[14:23] <betrayd> lucido: try this get 2 files, first the ISO, then say the md5sum text, it will finish the iso
[14:23] <betrayd> in one shot
[14:24] <betrayd> not 2 separate attempts
[14:24] <lucido> betrayd, what's the rationale?
[14:24] <helmut_> hi
[14:25] <betrayd> lucido it will still cut at the end, but not the important part
[14:25] <betrayd> you already would have the ISO
[14:25] <Xtreme> Hey Guys.
[14:25] <Xtreme> i have a core  i5 processor.
[14:25] <Xtreme> which has that turbo boost and all.
[14:25] <Xtreme> currently i am using Ubuntu Ldxe.
[14:25] <Xtreme> so
[14:25] <FloodBot1> Xtreme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <Xtreme> 1) Is there any driver/app to enable turbo boost.
[14:25] <CiSense> petran hook it up to a win box, also check that it's working
[14:25] <Xtreme> oops
[14:25] <akashj87> betrayd, wont a download manager help in these situations for lucido ?
[14:26] <Xtreme> i got blocked by floodbot :(
[14:26] <lucido> akashj87, no, I tried 3 of them
[14:26] <betrayd> akashj87: sure, then he can use it to get 2 files
[14:26] <Xtreme> Hey Guys. i have a core  i5 processor. which has that turbo boost and all. currently i am using Ubuntu Ldxe. so
[14:26] <Xtreme> 1) Is there any driver/app to enable turbo boost. 2) is there any app where i can set the frequecy and
[14:26] <betrayd> Xtreme: we saw it the first time
[14:27] <varun_> lucido, why don't you try the torrent? Usually faster and integrity is guaranteed : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[14:27] <Xtreme> betrayd.. opps sorry, i though i was blocked
[14:27] <lucido> varun_, I cant use torrents, filtered
[14:28] <cerv0_> varun : the bit set-uid is a specific permition gave by the owner of a program or file which allow temporary other users to execute the program him self no matter if they have permition or not
[14:28] <cerv0_> this is where the problem is coming from
[14:28] <akashj87> lucido, filtered as in ? you cant use even with encryption enabled ?
[14:29] <cerv0_> normaly when i give the bitsuid to the executable every other users should be able to execute it but it's not the case
[14:29] <cerv0_> ??
[14:30] <michealPW> Hi, everybody!
[14:31] <michealPW> Fiddle sticks! Installed XChat and logged in, forgot what I was going to ask haha :(
[14:31] <varun_> cerv0_, I believe the last x in the file permission makes it 'world executable'?
[14:31] <Xtreme> anyone?
[14:31] <ThinkT510> michealPW: glad we could help :)
[14:32] <betrayd> lol
[14:32] <cerv0_> varun_ yes
[14:32] <betrayd> senior moment
[14:32] <michealPW> Oh yea! My Synaptics Trackpad.
[14:32] <betrayd>  'Memory is usually the first to go'
[14:33] <cerv0_> varun_ but the permition of bit set-uid is represent not by x but by s
[14:33] <michealPW>  I customized my Xorg config by adding a copy of 50-synaptics.conf (/usr/ ... /xorg.conf.d/) and changing a whole bunch of settings using synclient to fiddle-around first, then copy-pasted the entire output of synclient -l into the config file (Edited for syntax) and viola!
[14:33] <michealPW> Now I've got.. A touchpad with touch disabled, so I click to select.. Disabled all the right/left corner stuff. Then I lost 2 finger scrolling :(
[14:33] <snowveil> I made a launcher for the game "Don't Starve" on my launcher panel, and it launches then immediately closes.  If I double click the executable in nautilus it works fine...any ideas? (ubuntu 12.04 64 bit)
[14:33] <michealPW> Anyone know how to correct this? In the config, I do indeed have VerticalTwoFingerScroll=1, or whatever the property is. Yet still no scrolling :(
[14:34] <varun_> cerv0_, where is the file located? Does the 2nd user even see or read it?
[14:34] <michealPW> Synaptics is very confusing. Is anybody good with this config? It seems that turning certain settings on turn others off, regardless of how I approach this.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:35] <michealPW> What I wanted is touch tapping disabled... I can't for the life of me type on the keyboard, even with palmdetect enabled, if touch is enabled. It always screws me up. So I disable it and instead like to Click all the way down, 'cause my TouchPad is *also* a ClickPad.
[14:35] <cerv0_> varun_ the file location is /home/cerv0/getuid
[14:35] <lucido> akashj87, seems not, tranmission has encryption enabled by default?
[14:35] <michealPW> It's also multi-touch. How can I setup Synaptics like this? It seems to want to be one or the other... Either multi-touch with tap gestures... ClickPad with no gestures, etc.
[14:35] <michealPW> :(
[14:36] <A1Recon> keeping the start button pressed for a small amount of time brings on the Keyboard Shortcut List!! YAY!!
[14:36] <cerv0_> varun_ it's an executable
[14:36] <varun_> By permissions of the 2nd user, I don't think he can read the contents in cerv0_'s home. Can you 'ls' the file from that account?
[14:38] <cerv0_> varun_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632416/
[14:38] <cerv0_> varun_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632416/
[14:39] <michealPW> because of the umask, I find sharing files between ~/ directories clumsy on Linux. I'm sure it has to do with me being a linux newbie, though. I usually make a /storage directory and a new group called 'Storage' I add all the local users to on the system. Then set the group owner on /storage to 'Storage' and it's generally good to go. It's clumsy 'cause the umask marks everything local users create as username:username :\
[14:40] <michealPW> So unless you set Others to read/write, effectively letting *anyone* write there, dunno how sharing is supposed to work with this umask :\
[14:40] <caelan> Hello, I'm having a problem with the Audio in Ubuntu 13.04. Basically, when sound is playing, no matter what application, the volume level will randomly fluctuate every now and then, causing the sound to pop. I have watched the volume slider blink very quickly first hand. I am unsure of why this is happening. I have looked on Google, but gotten no definitive answer. Thanks, Caelan.
[14:40] <varun_> cerv0_, that is from cerv0 account. What about the testeur account? Can he see the file in cerv0's home?
[14:41] <Voltaire> JOIN #ghg
[14:41] <michealPW> 2 questions: 1) How do I enable 2-finger scrolling *without* enabling Tap-Clicking? and 2) How do I enable 3 finger grab gesture? So that 3 fingers can move windows, select text etc.
[14:41] <akashj87> lucido, no idea about transmission. normally encryption is not enabled by default. see http://www.transmissionbt.com/help/gtk/2.3x/html/preferences.html
[14:42] <michealPW> I'm currently using Synaptics.
[14:42] <akashj87> lucido, privacy section of that guide
[14:42] <varun_> cerv0_, how about placing the file outside cerv0's home, in a directory which has permission 777, or 775?
[14:42] <caelan> Anyone have any idea?
[14:43] <cerv0_> varun_  cannot open the directory
[14:43] <michealPW> It's odd.. I had 2 finger scrolling on and touch-clicking disabled... I installed the proprietary fglrx drivers and now 2 fingerScroll doesn't work.. What is the connection? :\
[14:43] <cerv0_> varun_ ok let me try that one
[14:44] <varun_> cerv0_, I'm sure that's the problem. The permissions on the file itself look all good to me.
[14:44] <cerv0_> varun_ yeah you may be right just one second
[14:45] <snowveil> I made a launcher for the game "Don't Starve" on my launcher panel, and it launches then immediately closes.  If I double click the executable in nautilus it works fine...any ideas? (ubuntu 12.04 64 bit)
[14:45] <lucido> can someone please upload the last 7.1MB of the amd64 desktop iso (I'll give you the exact byte number)
[14:45] <lucido> so I caoncatenate it
[14:45] <varun_> elapsed ;) (one second..)
[14:45] <pfcode> hello, I have a little problem, I can't change UEFI Boot Order by bcfg (Intel's UEFI Shell v2.0) and by efibootmgr. I tried to change BootNext variable and it worked. What may be the problem?
[14:45] <michealPW> I can't believe how awesome this UEFI (ASUS NoteBook, K75DE) is..
[14:46] <lucido> 7402868 bytes remaining
[14:46] <michealPW> My EFI setup acts as the boot manager, in a way. LOL I can literally select either Windows Boot Loader or Ubuntu from the EFI Setup's Boot Order tab. How crazytown is that?!\
[14:46] <michealPW> hehe!
[14:46] <caelan> Can anyone help me? "Hello, I'm having a problem with the Audio in Ubuntu 13.04. Basically, when sound is playing, no matter what application, the volume level will randomly fluctuate every now and then, causing the sound to pop. I have watched the volume slider blink very quickly first hand. I am unsure of why this is happening. I have looked on Google, but gotten no definitive answer. Thanks, Caelan."
[14:46] <pfcode> michealPW, it's not simple as should be
[14:47] <pfcode> i have no method to change order in BIOS menu
[14:47] <pfcode> (BIOS on UEFI ;p)
[14:47] <minimec> michealPW: On my laptop with 13.04 I am able to use two finger scrolling without 'tap to click' enabled. I use easystroke mouse gestures with 'right click' fpr gesture initiation.
[14:47] <the_drow> Hello I'm trying to login using my password. The screen blinks but it goes back to the login screen. The password is correct (and it doesn't report it is the wrong password). When I login from safemode and open the root console and type passwd myuser and type the a new password it says it can't lock /etc/shadow/.
[14:47] <michealPW> pfcode: Yea, I agree man... It was a brutal process to get this system setup. The process 'caused a massive loss of data
[14:47] <iconso> Hi
[14:48] <michealPW> minimec: mm, that sounds interesting!
[14:48] <caelan> the_drow, I have exactly the same problem a little while ago, I can't remember for the life of me what fixed it though.
[14:48] <the_drow> I also tried to delete my password and the result was the same. "Can't lock /etc/shadow"
[14:48] <pfcode> michealPW, i am able to do anything to not load GRUB manually every time i start my notebook
[14:48] <the_drow> MY BROTHER PULLED THE PLUG ARGG.
[14:48] <betrayd> the_drow: safemode won't matter here, its for other type of recovery
[14:48] <lucido> is there anyone here who has this file ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso  ?
[14:49] <michealPW> minimec: I'm new to laptops, so I'm still trying to find a system that works well for me. The MacBook Pro was very elegantly setup. 2 finger vertical and horizontal scrolling, 3 finger grab (Selecting text, moving windows) and 1 finger to move curser.. You can also click the entire pad down with 1 finger or 2 fingers.
[14:49] <michealPW> Was so perfect, because you never get mis-interpreted gestures...
[14:49] <the_drow> Should I attempt to delete it?
[14:49] <caelan> I will ask one more time before I leave, because this problem is really annoying me now: "Hello, I'm having a problem with the Audio in Ubuntu 13.04. Basically, when sound is playing, no matter what application, the volume level will randomly fluctuate every now and then, causing the sound to pop. I have watched the volume slider blink very quickly first hand. I am unsure of why this is happening. I have looked on Google, but gotten no definitive answer.
[14:49] <caelan> Thanks, Caelan."
[14:49] <michealPW> 2 finger scroll, 3 finger grab I mean. With these touch gestures it accidently clicks things all the time when I'm dragging and just moving the cursor around the screen. Drives me bat-poop-crazy
[14:50] <betrayd> the_drow: not while in safe mode, you may want to create anotehr user amd copy over critical data from that old one
[14:50] <lez> What would be the best most compatible laser multifunction printer that I can buy for a Ubuntu system?
[14:50] <the_drow> First I should probably check if shadow.lock exists and delete it
[14:50] <lucido> caelan, do u have skype running?
[14:50] <michealPW> caelan: Sorry, I'm not sure what could cause that. I've used Ubuntu 13.04 and Kubuntu 13.04 and the only audio problem I have is Skype.. Which I blame entirely on Microsoft.
[14:50] <lucido> or a mic connected?
[14:50] <varun_> lucido, I do have the file
[14:50] <betrayd> the_drow: you can do more damage, why not cut your losses now
[14:50] <minimec> michealPW: Well easystroke is probably not that confortable, but still rather interesting. Have a look at this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CagAEgXAAzA
[14:50] <the_drow> betrayd: why? what could be the problem?
[14:50] <caelan> Yes, I do. But the problem also happens when skype is not being running. I did think of that too.
[14:51] <michealPW> minimec: I'll check it out, thx very much for the tip!
[14:51] <lucido> varun_, thank god, do you know how to cut off the last 7402868 bytes?
[14:51] <cerv0_> varun_ it's impossible to change the executable location
[14:51] <cerv0_> i changed the owner into cerv0
[14:51] <cerv0_> but nothing can be done
[14:51] <michealPW> Wow!
[14:51] <the_drow> ok, brb
[14:51] <varun_> lucido, I downloaded via torrent ;)
[14:51] <michealPW> That is so neat, minimec!
[14:52] <minimec> michealPW: Once you have your configuratioin, you cannot live without it anymore... ;)
[14:52] <varun_> cerv0_, then try adding the 2nd user to cerv0 group
[14:52] <lucido> varun_, I need u to split it so that the second part is 7402868 byte and upload it somewhere so I can have a full iso
[14:53] <caelan> I remember this also happening to me on the same computer a year ago. On another version of Ubuntu 12.04 I think. Or 11.10 either one.
[14:53] <caelan> And I didn't use skype at all back then.
[14:54] <lucido> varun_, I think the command is: split --bytes=823132160 path/to/iso  ./out
[14:54] <lucido> then it will be the second out file that I need
[14:55] <varun_> lucido, will try in a moment :), but are you sure the bits are downloaded in straight sequence?
[14:56] <michealPW> caelan: I'm not sure. As I said, though, I've noticed extensive audio issues with Skype on Ubuntu 13.04 and Kubuntu 13.04. Have you tried rebooting the machine and ensuring Skype does *not* run, then testing the audio?
[14:56] <lucido> varun_, pretty sure
[14:56] <prjkt> hi.  I'm trying to 'image' a microsd card into a perfect copy onto a second one.  (it actually has two partitions that pop up in ubuntu when i put the card into the reader)
[14:56] <michealPW> To see if it is not Skype wrecking the audio, giving false impression the entire system's audio is broken.
[14:56] <prjkt> how could I do that?  Also I only have one reader so in between I would have to copy the image onto a usb drive
[14:56] <lucido> caelan, ps aux|grep skype would do instead of a reboot
[14:56] <caelan> I'd rather not reboot, but I will kill all running skype processes, would that work.
[14:56] <michealPW> hehe lucido. Touche (y)
[14:56] <michealPW> Me and my shoddy Windows-like advice hehe.
[14:57] <caelan> Thanks!
[14:57] <michealPW> sudo killall skype
[14:57] <michealPW> ?
[14:58] <caelan> Hmm, I just quit skype normally, and now it's saying skype: no process found, so I'm gussing the normal quit, did quit it.
[14:58] <caelan> I will see how it goes. But I remember this happening without skype installed too
[14:58] <michealPW> prjkt: I generally make images with dd. In a terminal, just type a command like this (man dd): dd if=/dev/sda5 of=~/Downloads/diskImage.iso
[14:58] <michealPW> Where /dev/sda5 is the location of your sd card
[14:59] <michealPW> It should work, you can create an image for each partition on the disk?
[14:59] <varun_> lucido, looks like you gave me the full size. lol
[14:59] <lucido> varun_, no way
[15:00] <lucido> varun_, did that iso work, or was it checksummed?
[15:00] <Neozonz> Can someone help me with ufw?
[15:00] <michealPW> dd, split and openssl are the most handy utilities ever (giggle)
[15:00] <lucido> varun_, sorry you're right
[15:00] <Neozonz> I've got alot of ddos connections coming in from 54.232.*.*
[15:01] <Neozonz> I've run the following command on ufw : ufw insert 1 deny from 54.232.0.0/24
[15:01] <Neozonz> but i still see the connections in netstat
[15:01] <michealPW> So many backup solutions from those simple yet awesome utilities
[15:01] <varun_> lucido, I am continuously using it on a VM. And I "checked the disk for deffects" in the very first run.
[15:02] <Neozonz> anyone?
[15:02] <lucido> varun_, yes, I made a mistake, the value is 815729292
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> !ufw | Neozonz start here
[15:02] <michealPW> Sorry Neozonz. I'm not familiar with ufw. If you wait, maybe somebody will be around that knows how to help.
[15:02] <mguy> What's the fastest way to add a whole folder of true type fonts to my Ubuntu 13.04 system
[15:02] <varun_> lucido, already did the maths, finished..
[15:03] <Neozonz> :(
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> mguy  add from where?
[15:03] <mguy> /Downloads/Foobarfonts directory
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> mguy  rsync is fast and flexible
[15:04] <jakey> how do i convert.svg to gif and png to .gif?
[15:04] <michealPW> jakey: I use GIMP.
[15:04] <mguy> I selected them all in the file manager and clicked 'open in font viewer' but I don't get the 'add font button'
[15:04] <varun_> lucido, compressed the 2nd part with p7zip, the file is now 1.5 MB, how do you wish me to upload it?
[15:04] <michealPW> jakey: Maybe a huge, rocket-launcher of a solution for *that* problem, but it certainly will do it! :D
[15:04] <A1Recon> is there a good text editor for editing code like HTML,CSS and jQuery??
[15:04] <mguy> jakey: You can automate it with something like ImageMagick
[15:04] <mguy> A1Recon: Sublime, Geany...
[15:04] <jakey> michealPW, i find the gif quality sucks afterwards
[15:05] <michealPW> A1Recon: I use BlueFish for HTML, CSS and JScript. Also checkout Geany.
[15:05] <michealPW> Geany is awesome..
[15:05] <ubuntu__> I  do not remember my login password. How I can recover my password
[15:05] <caelan> Sublime Text 2 is god compared to Geany IMO.
[15:05] <mguy> jakey: quality sucks as in?
[15:05] <jakey> opeing a png in gimp and saving it as a gif
[15:05] <mguy> jakey: Well GIF is 256 color for one
[15:05] <michealPW> jakey: Ah, you'll have to play around with the Colour Depth and Resolution settings. If I recall, the colour depth is a huge factor in quality/size. I'm not an image expert, though. Just a web developer, I use GIMP to transcode and shrink images.
[15:05] <mguy> And it's compressed
[15:06] <A1Recon> michealPW: when I was in Win7 I used Notepad ++
[15:06] <CrashOR>  /join #fataca
[15:06] <lukecarrier> Sublime Text all the way
[15:06] <mguy> 'up to 256 color' I shoud say
[15:06] <michealPW> A1Recon: Indeed. BlueFish is better than Notepadd++ as it's built specifically for web-design/development.
[15:06] <ubuntu__> Please help me  as I do not know my login password
[15:07] <michealPW> A1Recon: Geany is vastly superior to Notepadd++ in that you can integrate compilers, debuggers even make into Geany, just by pointing Geany to their binaries and Geany will become much like a full-blown IDE.
[15:07] <caelan> The thing is with Bluefish, sometimes when I'm really in the flow, I end up typing too fast for it, and it won't auto indent. This seems to be because there is a slight delay between the enter key down and the auto indent.
[15:07] <ubuntu__> I do not know my login password how  I can recover it
[15:07] <A1Recon> michealPW: Thanks. You see I am taking these course at codecademy.com , so I need this
[15:08] <michealPW> ubuntu__: If you did not create a password recovery disk, you're kind of out of luck. You can download a very small boot-loader called KonBoot and use it to bypass the log-in screen, allowing you to reset the passwords.
[15:08] <minimec> ubuntu__: boot the computer in recovery mode (left shift key) before the grub menu stsrts and drop to a root schell. then 'passwd yourusername'
[15:08] <caelan> No other text editor I've seen does this.
[15:08] <michealPW> KonBoot works for Windows, Linux and a bunch of other systems. It temporarily patches the kernel in memory, allowing the validation to silently succeed.
[15:08] <th0r> is it that easy to learn how to break into a stolen linux system?
[15:09] <A1Recon> th0r: Same question here.....
[15:09] <michealPW> caelan: Jah, that's weird. I use Geany more than BlueFish, mainly out of habit. Geany is just so awesome (rofl)
[15:09] <michealPW> KonBoot makes it trivial... KonBoot is the reason UEFI and SecureBoot exist.
[15:09] <michealPW> It will defeat *any* Operating System like child's play.
[15:09] <michealPW> It cheats...
[15:09] <prjkt> michealPW:  can you help me a bit
[15:09] <minimec> A1Recon: th0r: If no root password was set, it is that easy. Start in recovery mode and drop to a root shell.
[15:10] <caelan> Yeah, passwords are really just so your mates don't get in and be stupid.
[15:10] <th0r> minimec: you missed the point
[15:10] <minimec> th0r: Did I?
[15:10] <prjkt> michealPW: when I right-click in 'explorer' (ubuntu's version) to figure out where the files are mounted
[15:10] <prjkt> I see they are all in /media
[15:10] <prjkt> but the microsd card has two different names under /media
[15:10] <michealPW> It boots the machine and modifies the kernel in memory, ripping out the actual routines that do the checks.. Breaking it, allowing any password to log-in to any account. It's handy for recovery.
[15:10] <varun_> lucido, I think you got the file.
[15:10] <prjkt> how can I dd the physical media, if it is mounted in two different partitions in /media?
[15:10] <michealPW> I've fixed many a grandmother's Windows PC when they forgot their PW :P
[15:11] <CKLMN> hey guys i need help  , i just installed the proprietory drivers and now unity is lost
[15:11] <CKLMN> i cant even drag and drop the windows
[15:11] <caelan> For which device, CKLMN?
[15:11] <CKLMN> amd
[15:11] <CKLMN> ubuntu 13.04
[15:11] <michealPW> How did you install them?
[15:11] <caelan> I use Nvidia, so I would't know.
[15:11] <caelan> Sorry.
[15:12] <CKLMN> :S
[15:12] <michealPW> Oh goodness, nVidia? Nothing but nightmares in my nVidia experiences :(
[15:12] <A1Recon> minimec: I typed in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to update and it asked for a [sudo] password. I never set a sudo password...
[15:12] <michealPW> CKLMN: Did you install the proprietary AMD drivers from amd.com?
[15:12] <|Slacker|> for some wicked reason, I'm unable to remove sources on my update config
[15:12] <|Slacker|> any hints??
[15:12] <CKLMN> yes
[15:13] <michealPW> CKLMN: When the computer boots, does it throw you into a single-user command-prompt or does it just freeze at the Ubuntu splashscreen?
[15:13] <lucido> varun_, thanks a bunch, I'll try it now!
[15:13] <CKLMN> it doesnt freeze , im in right now
[15:13] <minimec> A1Recon: The user you configured during initial install is a user with 'admin rights'. You could call it a 'sudoer' ... ;) Use the password of the user you configured during install..
[15:13] <CKLMN> but unity is lost
[15:14] <varun_> lucido, only if it works :D
[15:14] <michealPW> Oh. I see, so it boots, you log-in and you just have a background picture and a cursor?
[15:14] <michealPW> No Unit/Gnome-Shell ?
[15:14] <CKLMN> yes
[15:14] <michealPW> Oh that's not that bad then :P
[15:14] <CKLMN> no tollbar
[15:14] <michealPW> *thinks*
[15:14] <CKLMN> *toolbar , no x - and maximize
[15:14] <CKLMN> just the desktop with the icons
[15:14] <caelan> Press CTRL+ALT+T and type into the terminal "unity" without the quotes. Any errors will show when it is starting.
[15:14] <caelan> @CKLMN
[15:15] <CKLMN> if i do that , then it just freezes
[15:15] <CKLMN> and then i need to open new tty
[15:15] <michealPW> Hrmm
[15:15] <CKLMN> and startx
[15:15] <caelan> Hmm, strange.
[15:15] <CKLMN> i had this prob with 12.10 too , and i thought it would fix on 13.04
[15:15] <CKLMN> but still the same
[15:15] <michealPW> Can you open a term, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[15:16] <michealPW> ?
[15:16] <lucido> varun_, The md5sum is matching :)
[15:16] <michealPW> Maybe you have to install pastebinit hehe
[15:16] <betrayd>  startx doesn't call unity but your x session will be bare, that's why you're missing buttons
[15:16] <A1Recon> minimec: I did that....but when i type the cursor does not move......my keyboard's fine though.....it just wont take my password. Any particular reason its working this way??
[15:16] <varun_> lucido, That's great!! And I learned something new too... (split)
[15:17] <betrayd> lucido was able to complete the ISO? Kewl!
[15:17] <hylian> what other option besides unetbootin and usb-creator is there for making a live usb key? I want to put slax on a usb drive, but unetbootin fails everytime even if i format it to 32 bit and add flag boot.
[15:17] <CKLMN> installing pastebin w8
[15:17] <michealPW> Would you start unity with just the unity binary or with an init script, like lightdm?
[15:17] <akashj87> varun_ and lucido : cool to know this stuff !
[15:17] <davico_> hola !
[15:17] <lucido> betrayd, yes, md5 doesn't lie ;)
[15:17] <CKLMN> to start unity i tried unity in the command line
[15:18] <varun_> :)
[15:18] <michealPW> Hrmm
[15:18] <betrayd> lucido: unless you messed with his sister =)
[15:18] <CKLMN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632533/
[15:18] <|Slacker|> nevermind...I've just fixed it
[15:18] <minimec> A1Recon: I can confirm that it works like that... and you probably don't want to display your password on the console...
[15:18] <zvx10> hey guys! im thinking about switching to proprietary AMD driver for my videocard, because the free one doesnt work properly. So the question is do i need to uninstall the free driver in order to let the proprietary work?
[15:18] <betrayd> CKLMN: not on a grpahical terminal?
[15:18] <lucido> hehe
[15:18] <ubuntu__> explain the easy method to recover the password for ubutu operating system for authentication
[15:19] <minimec> A1Recon: th0r: If no root password was set, it is that easy. Start in recovery mode and drop to a root shell.
[15:19] <CKLMN> im on a graphical
[15:19] <betrayd> where did you type unity
[15:19] <michealPW> Oh hey CKLMN..
[15:19] <minimec> ubuntu__: boot the computer in recovery mode (left shift key) before the grub menu stsrts and drop to a root schell. then 'passwd yourusername'
[15:19] <OerHeks> zvx10, no, just select your driver in additional drivers and reboot.
[15:19] <michealPW> In a terminal type sudo amdconfig --initial
[15:19] <davico_> Hi ! i have a problem, i want install SDL , i download package of the website and unpackage
[15:19] <A1Recon> is sudo password and root password the same??
[15:19] <the_drow> So I tried to add a user but it still says it can't lock /etc/shadow. There are no *.lock files.
[15:19] <michealPW> I don't think you're even running with AMD's xorg.conf
[15:19] <davico_> i type ./configure
[15:19] <michealPW> I think you're running with no xorg.conf at all?
[15:19] <CKLMN> yeah ichanged it to open source for a fix
[15:19] <Iszak> Do I need to have both hard drives unmounted to use mdadm?
[15:20] <michealPW> Oh I see
[15:20] <CKLMN> but it didnt , even when the propretory was enabled same problem
[15:20] <michealPW> Try to just delete it all together, the entire xorg.conf
[15:20] <the_drow> I tried to mount my encrypted home folder from safe mode but it says it hasn't been loaded properly.
[15:20] <betrayd> the_drow: sis you try it while in safe mode or recovery
[15:20] <betrayd> did^
[15:20] <the_drow> betrayd: YUP
[15:20] <minimec> A1Recon: No. There can be multiple users with 'sudo' rights, but only one root account.
[15:20] <caelan> lucido: OK, I just tried playing some music again with Skype completely closed, and the problem persists. And I forgot to say it pops sometimes too.
[15:20] <the_drow> safe mode
[15:20] <betrayd> the_drow: the disks are protected read only
[15:20] <hylian> what other option besides unetbootin and usb-creator is there for making a live usb key? I waquit
[15:20] <hylian> quit
[15:20] <michealPW> CKLMN: I had good luck installing from the Ubuntu repos..
[15:20] <the_drow> betrayd: Ok so what do I do?
[15:20] <betrayd> the_drow: i was going to tell you but you had left
[15:21] <betrayd> can you get into regular session isntead the_drow
[15:21] <the_drow> betrayd: I used the safe mode once to delete my password and type a new one
[15:21] <the_drow> betrayd: only guest session will log in
[15:21] <michealPW> CKLMN: Here's what you can do: Completely delete your xorg.conf (sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf, rm -R /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/) and then install synaptic (sudo apt-get install synaptic) and then run synaptic, search for fglrx-updates
[15:21] <CKLMN> this is so annoying ..
[15:21] <michealPW> Install that package. fglrx-updates and fglrx-updates-dev.
[15:21] <A1Recon> minimec: I type the login password(configured during install) --while the cursor does not move-- and hit enter... It says "Sorry, try again."
[15:22] <michealPW> You'll also need build-essential, fakeroot, execstack I think, maybe synaptic will mark them all for you though I cant' remember.
[15:22] <caelan> Also, while I'm here, does anyone know why this happens to me sometimes when booting: fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed. Then I reboot and everything is fine, then next time it happens again. (13.04)
[15:22] <michealPW> Then let it install, open a terminal, type sudo amdconfig --initial one more time and cross your fingers and reboot :P
[15:22] <CKLMN> rm: cannot remove ‘/etc/X11/xorg.conf’: No such file or directory
[15:22] <lucido> caelan, which control is moving?
[15:22] <zvx10> OerHeks, additional drivers? the thing is that i downloaded the driver from AMD's website (its not .deb) and i dont have unity installed, so im not sure how to configure it. is there an official deb for the prop driver?
[15:22] <michealPW> Sometimes the fglrx in the Ubuntu repos will work when the one on AMD's website simply will not
[15:23] <anew> how to search for a string inside a folder
[15:23] <michealPW> CKLMN: Oh right, so you already got rid of it then? That's fine too :P
[15:23] <CKLMN> hahaha , i didnt do anything ;p
[15:23] <caelan> The "Output volume" control in Sound settings sometimes flickers. And at the same time it pops.
[15:23] <caelan> lucido: ^
[15:23] <OerHeks> zvx10, go into softwarecenter > sources > last [tab]  drivers. do not use the one from amd website, you won't get updates
[15:23] <michealPW> CKLMN: That's weird! haha amdconfig should have created an xorg.conf file in your /etc/X11
[15:23] <michealPW> Which instructs X to load the fglrx driver
[15:24] <CKLMN> seems it didnt
[15:24] <Guest83663> please explain the steps to recover the password of login
[15:24] <varun_> anew, grep -R "string" <folder>
[15:24] <michealPW> let me read your Xorg.0.log again haha just a second
[15:24] <CKLMN> kk
[15:24] <minimec> A1Recon: You have to be logged in as that user, you created first. Example: You configured user A1Recon during install... S o you have to login in a session as that user, and then use it with sudo rights on a console.
[15:24] <anew> varun_ if i'm in the folder i want to search do i leave out <folder> ?
[15:24] <zvx10> OerHeks, i dont have software center (long story short: i got an ubuntu server running with icewm)
[15:24] <betrayd> michealPW: i think scan for ==
[15:25] <varun_> anew, replace it with ./
[15:25] <anew> thanks man
[15:25] <varun_> :)
[15:25] <michealPW> Oh right,
[15:25] <A1Recon> minimec: i have logged in as A1Recon
[15:25] <lucido> caelan, I'm not sure about the current ubuntu audio architecture but it's probably dbus based, you should find out what calls have to be made to change the volume and then run a monitor on it see whats messing with it
[15:25] <Guest83663> I do not know my password for authentication
[15:26] <OerHeks> zvx10, can't help you there with icewm
[15:26] <michealPW> So you're running totaly without a xorg.conf, except the few in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, which sets up your Touchpad and stuff. So that's good! You should be able to just install synaptic, use it to install fglrx-updates and then in a terminal run sudo amdconfig --initial
[15:26] <A1Recon> Guest83663: its the same as the current user's login password
[15:26] <caelan> lucido: So, how would I do that?
[15:26] <bigbadben> Ok so I have traced my kernel panic to my usb bluetooth device, it is a cambridge silicon usb dongle. I can connect to my bluetooth mouse then when I restart the computer I get a kernel panic, what could be causing this it does not happen when I am snycing the mouse with my archLinux machine
[15:26] <CKLMN> mok i will try
[15:26] <michealPW> Reboot and you *should* be running the AMD drivers. However, your Xorg.0.log says you have an Intel Integrated Graphics chip? Are you using a core i# ? Like core i5 or core i7?
[15:27] <CKLMN> i have i7
[15:27] <lucido> caelan, don't know, first find out the mechanisms invoolving changing the volume, if it's RPC or something else, then go from there, google it up
[15:27] <CKLMN> cpu:i7
[15:27] <CKLMN> gpu:amd radeon 6900 or 6700
[15:27] <michealPW> So you have a corei7 *and* a Radeon 6000 series?
[15:27] <CKLMN> yes
[15:27] <zvx10> OerHeks, the winmanager doesnt matter, all i need is to get the prop driver running, could find it in the repository, do you know if i can install it thru apt-get?
[15:27] <michealPW> Interesting combination. Can you go into your BIOS and disable the Intel GPU?
[15:27] <lucido> caelan, I think is pulseaudio on top of alsa?
[15:27] <minimec> A1Recon: I don not know, if you are make fun of me or not, as you gave Guest83663 the same answer I gave you... ;) If you do so, I don't think it's funny, as we all try to give a hand to people...
[15:28] <CKLMN> my gpu is dual
[15:28] <davico_> Hola alguien habla español?
[15:28] <CKLMN> on windows has options to
[15:28] <CKLMN> change
[15:28] <davico_> no soy muy bueno en el ingles
[15:28] <the_drow> betrayd: so how do I resolve this issue?
[15:28] <mamed> hello. i have upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 lts and i cannot hear sound from my hdmi soun driver i have tried some solutions like pulse audio , adding a52.conf file but it did not work
[15:28] <CKLMN> between 2 states
[15:28] <caelan> lucido: I know it uses ALSA, but I'm not sure about Pulse Audio.
[15:28] <michealPW> If you can do that, hehe, I think it will make everything so much simpler for you. I see in your xorg log, the Intel graphics drivers are being loaded. This maybe why fglrx cannot load. On Linux multi-GPUs when the GPUs are not the same is brutual, in my experience. Maybe somebody else here knows how to help.
[15:28] <davico_> hola a todos!!!
[15:28] <michealPW> I have gotten nothing but horrible, horrible experiences though. Intel+nVidia and Intel+AMD.
[15:29] <mamed> in alsamixer s/pid is mute
[15:29] <davico_> jaja holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:29] <michealPW> At the end of the day, the Intel graphics chips are complete garbage...
[15:29] <michealPW> LOL.
[15:29] <michealPW> You lose nothing by disabling them.
[15:29] <CKLMN> so i need to disable from bios ?
[15:29] <th0r> !es
[15:29] <michealPW> No, but with my limited knowledge that would make it very easy for you..
[15:29] <michealPW> To disable the Intel IGP and just run the AMD Radeon GPU. Will save battery power and make the system much more stable.
[15:29] <mamed> michealPW, i only hear analog output when i set the digital dhmi i hear nothig
[15:29] <CKLMN> ok i wil try now and get back if it wont fix
[15:30] <michealPW> Well wait
[15:30] <betrayd> the_drow: http://is.gd/xt9k7M
[15:30] <michealPW> Actually yea. Without a xorg.conf, if you disable the Intel GPU it should automatically see the Radeon and load the open source Gallium drivers (Spelling?)
[15:30] <davico_> hola
[15:30] <betrayd> the_drow: not in safe mode/recovery
[15:31] <michealPW> That should get you booted to Unity, allowing you to easily install the AMD fglrx drivers to get full potential out of the Radeon gpu. Again.. This isn't ideal, I know..
[15:31] <CKLMN> ok thnx , i will try and get back if doesnt fix
[15:31] <the_drow> then how?
[15:31] <michealPW> But maybe somebody else knows a better solution.
[15:31] <betrayd> the link above the_drow
[15:31] <the_drow> betrayd: I can't log in to my own account and I can't do it from a guest account. There are no other accounts.
[15:31] <betrayd> the_drow: there is *ALWAYS sudo read the link
[15:31] <A1Recon> minimec: I am not making fun of u. I have installed a few softwares from software center so i know......but as far as my problem goes, I'm simply asking "Why the cursor wont move" and "even when i type in the password (while the cursor does not move) and hit enter. Why does it say Sorry try again?" Peace out...I'm not making fun of you.
[15:32] <the_drow> betrayd: but you can't use it from a guest account no?
[15:32] <michealPW> I know with Intel+nVidia you can install something called Bumblebee. I personally had no luck with my MacBook (Core i7 + nVidia) using Bumblebee, though. I had to give up and just disable the damned intel chip ultimately, LOL. Only way I could get the kernel to stop panicing :\
[15:32] <betrayd> you may need to give root a password...
[15:32] <betrayd> and log him in
[15:32] <betrayd> root i mean
[15:33] <the_drow> betrayd: How do I do it from the guest account?
[15:33] <lucido> caelan, I think I remember seeing something similar being a driver issue
[15:33] <the_drow> betrayd: Or should I attempt to do so from safe mode? (It probably won't work)
[15:33] <caelan> lucido: OK, I'm just trying to monitor the dbus messages with dbus-monitor.
[15:34] <A1Recon> minimec: you there??
[15:35] <minimec> A1Recon: Ok. The cursor is not moving per default, so don't worry.
[15:35] <davico_> hi to everybody!
[15:35] <betrayd> the_drow: can you get to a virtaul console and see a login prompt there ctl-alt-f1 thru f7
[15:35] <davico_> help with SDL , please!
[15:35] <w4rl0ckx> hello
[15:35] <the_drow> betrayd: virtual console?
[15:35] <minimec> A1Recon: Yes I am here. ;) As for the wrong password. Did you accidently activate the 'caps lock' key?
[15:35] <ubuntu__> I do not know login password for authentication
[15:35] <betrayd> yes, command line ctl-alt-f1
[15:36] <betrayd> up to f7
[15:36] <the_drow> betrayd: should I boot normally and click ctrl+alt+f1?
[15:36] <betrayd> no try it now (even safe mode)
[15:36] <w4rl0ckx> nop ctrl+alt+f7
[15:36] <anev> if i was to install an older version of ubuntu, is it easy to upgrade to 13.04?
[15:37] <w4rl0ckx> yep
[15:37] <anev> thx
[15:37] <davico_> how install SDL in xubuntu?
[15:37] <the_drow> betrayd: what do you mean up to f7?
[15:37] <betrayd> pick any
[15:37] <the_drow> betrayd: ok, anything else?
[15:37] <w4rl0ckx> it s key  combo
[15:38] <betrayd> theres like 7 i think
[15:38] <betrayd> avaiable
[15:38] <w4rl0ckx> f7 my bro
[15:38] <betrayd> ok thanks w4rl0ckx
[15:38] <jhutchins_wk> Six.
[15:38] <betrayd> lol my math is shot
[15:38] <A1Recon> minimec: No caps but I somehow got the password wrong I suppose (alphanumeric with a bunch of special characters) so the command is being executed.... Thanks for your help!!
[15:38] <minimec> anev: 12.10 -> 13.04 = easy; otherwise 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04. You have to upgrade following the releases.
[15:38] <the_drow> betrayd: ok, anything else before I reboot?
[15:38] <jhutchins_wk> 7 is X
[15:38] <minimec> A1Recon: No problem.
[15:39] <betrayd> no the_drow restate your prob here, some guys might know a better way
[15:39] <betrayd> mine's one, to add a user and start afresh
[15:40] <the_drow> I'm trying to log in with the correct password. The screen blinks and goes back to the login screen (it even deactivates numlock again). I can log in from the guest account correctly. When I try do change the password/delete/add a new user from safe mode it says that it can't lock /etc/shadow. There are no lock files to delete. I checked.
[15:42] <the_drow> I also can't mount my encrypted home folder from safe mode so I can recover my most important documents. It says it hasn't been loaded correctly.
[15:42] <jayzio> !ops the_drow
[15:42] <jhutchins_wk> the_drow: permissions on your home directory or files within it may be incorrect.
[15:42] <jayzio> !fi | jhutchins_wk
[15:42] <the_drow> jayzio: How do I check thay?
[15:43] <minimec> the_drow: That sounds like having an old .Xauthority file in your /home/yourusername
[15:43] <harris> the update information is outdated
[15:43] <the_drow> minimec: But I can't delete it since the home folder is encrypted.
[15:43] <harris> error
[15:43] <robottinosino> how can i, reliably and programmatically, determine whether my bash script is indeed running on an ubuntu host?
[15:43] <minimec> the_drow: Can you login on console?
[15:44] <the_drow> minimec: I haven't tried yet. I didn't know it was possible with X11.
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> Atually, the_drow looks like his encryption messed up on him.
[15:44] <caelan> lucido: I've realised something, when I start playing music and shake one the open windows, the volume crackles and pops.
[15:44] <the_drow> I'll try and let you guys know in a sec
[15:44] <minimec> the_drow: <ctrl><alt>F1
[15:44] <caelan> *the sound crackles and pops
[15:44] <the_drow> jhutchins_wk: oh that's bad :/
[15:44] <the_drow> minimec: lemme login using console first
[15:44] <the_drow> brb
[15:44] <minimec> the_drow: <ctrl><alt>F7 ot <alt>F7 to switch back.
[15:46] <lucido> caelan, thats EM interference
[15:46] <harris> the update information is outdated
[15:46] <DJones> !details | harris
[15:47] <caelan> Does anyone else have any clue what's going on? Basically, my sound is cracking and popping when playing music. But i've noticed it does this when I do something on the computer, like for instance, shake around one of the open windows. Or start reloading a page in Chrome. I've had the problem since day one with ubuntu, (11.10 and onwards). Thanks.
[15:47] <harris> i have a red error triangle
[15:47] <caelan> And this doesn't happen on windows.
[15:47] <michealPW> That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard of, caelan.
[15:47] <caelan> lucido: I don't mean an actual window, I mean a window on the computer.
[15:47] <michealPW> I think it must certainly be a firmware/driver issue in Linux. No idea where to start to track it down, though :\
[15:48] <caelan> I know, this is strange, it's always happened to me when using Ubuntu, but this doesn't happen with Windows 7.
[15:48] <johnjohn1011> caelan, are they powered by usb?
[15:48] <hirru27> hi guys, have you tried any cloning software for ubuntu 10.04lts?
[15:48] <caelan> No, it's from the jack socket in the back of the PC.
[15:48] <caelan> Going into my PC speakers.
[15:48] <michealPW> The unfortunate thing is, Windows 7 gets custom firmware and drivers made by the manufacturers... Most drivers and firmware on Linux are developed by volunteers :\
[15:48] <lucido> caelan, check the hardware id with lspci and google it in conjunction with the audio driver module name
[15:48] <caelan> And I've also tried it with my main stereo, it happens there too.
[15:49] <johnjohn1011> speakers are usb powered or using power cord?
[15:49] <caelan> They are using a power cord into the plug socket extension which is plugged into the wall outlet.
[15:50] <michealPW> Have you tried playing with the jack it's plugged into? Some mainboards/soundcards have different output jacks, like analog, digital etc.
[15:50] <michealPW> :
[15:50] <michealPW> :/
[15:50] <caelan> Hmm, I will try that Micheal.
[15:51] <michealPW> I haven't had any audio issues since the days of switching to PulseAudio *shudders*
[15:51] <BluesKaj> mamed, here's the patch for your hdmi audio issue , but make sure your graphics driver is also up to date.
[15:51] <robottinosino> i know of no better way than cat /etc/issue.. do people here know of a superior system?
[15:51] <johnjohn1011> i had the same popping crackling and once i bought new speakers issue went away
[15:51] <caelan> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) That is what comes up for lspci.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> mamed, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+build/4502367
[15:51] <mamed> Blue1, i updated my system a few minutes ago
[15:51] <mamed> BluesKaj, thank you so much i will try this
[15:52] <ger-banane> can someone help me? i have no start bar
[15:52] <michealPW> Weird that it says both AMD and Intel in that name LMAO!
[15:52] <Enemtee> now the classic question, skype for ubuntu 13.04 64 bit :-) how can i get it working, i've tried many things, but nothing works yet
[15:53] <michealPW> Enemtee: Install it using the webupd8team PPA, I think it is. That works fine for me, no need to fix any bugs.
[15:53] <michealPW> The one on the Skype.com website has a bug, you have to do something first in order for it to not segfault when you try and run it.
[15:53] <Enemtee> michealPW: Will try, just add the ppa and then do a sudo apt-get install skype?
[15:53] <mamed> yes skype has some bugs. when i start a video call on skype i log out
[15:53] <michealPW> Enemtee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[15:54] <johnjohn1011> so skype for 64 bit ubuntu works great now?
[15:54] <michealPW> Enemtee: Even with that working Skype from that Canonical ppa... My Skype's audio is distorted and crackly.
[15:54] <mamed> i dont know i use 32 bit i think cos my system is 32 bit
[15:54] <michealPW> It's horribly annoying. Other than that, it works fine.
[15:54] <michealPW> There is no Skype 64-bit guys.
[15:54] <wdonkey> hello! on 13.04, login in in gnome (not unity) theres a bottom bar that appears when i get my mouse down there, how is this bar called and how do i disable it ??
[15:54] <michealPW> It's all 32-bit. You need to install the 32-bit libs.
[15:54] <caelan> michealPW: I only have the 7.1 analogue out, and the SPDIF out on the back of my mobo.
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> wdonkey: (Try #ubuntu-gnome)
[15:55] <caelan> I don't have an SPDIF cable nor a receiver that can use it.
[15:55] <cemycc> I was searching on internet hope to find an aswer, I want to install ubuntu 13.03 on my home pc but I want to install it with software raid.
[15:55] <michealPW> caelan: Hrmm! Interesting..
[15:55] <Enemtee> i have installed different 32-bit libraries, but i will get skype from the webupd8-ppa
[15:55] <cemycc> Is software raid available on the install ?
[15:55] <lucido> do you have a good sensible "first things to do after install" link? codecs and such
[15:55] <caelan> So, again, this happens when I move a window or reload a tab or something else that requires processing.
[15:55] <cemycc> Or I need to use the manual method with mdadm ?
[15:56] <cemycc> 13.04*
[15:57] <michealPW> Oh, it's not even in a ppa. It's in the Partners repo. All you have to do is add the 32-bit architecture to dpkg, so that it can see it:
[15:57] <michealPW> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[15:57] <michealPW> Then a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype will get it.
[15:58] <caelan> So, any more ideas people? "Does anyone else have any clue what's going on? Basically, my sound is cracking and popping when playing music. But i've noticed it does this when I do something on the computer, like for instance, shake around one of the open windows. Or start reloading a page in Chrome. I've had the problem since day one with ubuntu, (11.10 and onwards). Thanks."
[15:58] <nanashiRei> just curiousity: What would you chose ubuntu for, over other distros? (Server)
[15:58] <caelan> I'm getting kind of desperate now! :p
[15:58] <michealPW> Sorry caelan. That's weird, I'm out of ideas accept obvious, generic troubleshooting advice (Which would not apply, since it works perfectly fine in Windows. Must be software related.)
[15:59] <caelan> Yes, I know it's software related. And I've always had this problem with Ubuntu since I first started using it. It's really annoying.
[15:59] <kimir> Wallpaper compiz plugin makes all my desktop icons disappear. How can I fix that?
[15:59] <SonikkuAmerica> caelan: I assume this is PulseAudio?
[15:59] <michealPW> nanashiRei: I choose Ubuntu over other distros because it is the widest supported distro right no. time is everything. (Example: www.skype.com, www.adobe.com have Ubuntu listed as a supported platform and so do the major driver manufacturers like Intel, nVidia and AMD)
[16:00] <caelan> SonikkuAmerica: How do I find out whether I'm using PulseAudio or not?
[16:00] <cemycc> Anyone have any clue if the installer from Ubuntu 13.04 have support for software raid ?
[16:00] <michealPW> nanashiRei: More importantly, though.. I choose Ubuntu because time is money. It's the most robust, ready-to-work distro I've found so far. Just boot it and get to work. Sometimes putting in the odd proprietary driver is required, but meh.
[16:00] <nanashiRei> michealPW: thanks, that counts the first not fanboyish anwer i got :)
[16:01] <doc-donkey> did you guys see my previous msgs ?
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> caelan: What version of Ubuntu do you have, and did you change any sound settings?
[16:01] <nanashiRei> I saw that AWS uses either CentOS (amazon linux) or ubuntu and was confused like shit
[16:01] <doc-donkey> im having lag problems
[16:01] <compdoc> caelan, Ive had to install these drivers for AMD sound issues. read this and try to do the steps. I might be able to guide you through it  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS
[16:01] <caelan> 13.04 No, I didn't change any settings.
[16:01] <nanashiRei> because the net is all "DEBIAN YOU FAGGOT!" :)
[16:01] <michealPW> nanashiRei: Well, CentOS literally stands for Community Enterprise Operating System. It's exactly what it claims to be, as well.
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> caelan: You have PulseAudio then...
[16:02] <michealPW> nanashiRei: Based on RedHat and meant for large enterprises, such as those, would opt for RedHat. CentOS, iunno why they would pick that since it's RedHat without support LOL.
[16:02] <nanashiRei> xD
[16:03] <nanashiRei> Well REHL based, is the keyword.
[16:03] <michealPW> Indeed :P
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> *RHEL
[16:03] <pentester> hiiiiiiiii i am arya
[16:03] <nanashiRei> But yes, why would amazon NOT TAKE SUPPORT ... kinda obvious :D
[16:03] <michealPW> I like CentOS. It's very nice. It's similar to Debian in that it's rock-solid... Which means it's old.
[16:03] <michealPW> Th whole software stack in Debian Stable or CentOS/RHEL is very old.
[16:04] <michealPW> You're talking GNOME 2, Linux 2.6, etc. etc...
[16:04] <michealPW> WINE v1.0 (rofl)
[16:04] <nanashiRei> No in all seriousness.. what you just said...
[16:04] <nanashiRei> o_o
[16:04] <michealPW> GCC 4.2 and libgtk prior to 2.8 which means you're locked...
[16:04] <betrayd> GNOME 2 eh maybe thats good then...
[16:04] <michealPW> You cannot build anything, as libgtk on your system will conflict
[16:04] <pentester> can u please tell me red hat is a secure os
[16:04] <nanashiRei> Debian always amazed me in cases of security and god damn stability
[16:04] <michealPW> With the new libgtk software. Enterprises like this, though..
[16:04] <michealPW> They're not into bleeding edge, they're into rock-solid and secure ;)
[16:05] <OerHeks> please watch your language, nanashiRei
[16:05] <nanashiRei> Makes it even harder to choose
[16:05] <SonikkuAmerica> betrayd: You can forget about GNOME 2.
[16:05] <nanashiRei> OerHeks: watch what you read :)
[16:05] <caelan> OK, I just installed this driver, not rebooting, be back in a min.
[16:05] <cemycc> So, anyone know if ubuntu 13.04 have software raid on install ? :)
[16:05] <AxoX> hello
[16:05] <AxoX> salut
[16:05] <michealPW> betrayed: Not if you're into compiling modern software, though. Having a GNOME 2 stack locks you out of compiling new software... Unless you're down to recompile your entire stack, including the libc libraries and GCC itself (rofl)
[16:06] <michealPW> Which, I mean c'mon.. That's crazytalk.
[16:06] <AxoX> french ?
[16:06] <michealPW> You might aswell be running Gentoo, zing!
[16:06] <michealPW> Although Gentee.. You have emerge.. In THAT scenerio, you have nothing.
[16:06] <michealPW> You're entirely on your own.
[16:06] <michealPW> Gentoo**
[16:06] <OerHeks> !fr | AxoX
[16:06] <cato_> I have no sound since upgrading to 13.04. Tried removing, reinstalling, and force-reloading alsa and pulseaudio. Sound card is in the Sound settings panel. It's not muted in alsamixer. any ideas?
[16:06] <AxoX> ubottu y apas de français
[16:07] <onr> cato_: what's your soundcard model?
[16:07] <nanashiRei> essayer # ubuntu-fr pour le soutien :s
[16:07] <the_drow> You guys will be suprised to know that the only thing that was wrong somehow I mistakenly echoed a command to the .profile file. I have no idea how that happend exactly.
[16:07] <the_drow> Once I removed it, everything worked just fine.
[16:07] <michealPW> hehe the_drow. Nice!
[16:07] <michealPW> I love those kinds of problems ;)
[16:07] <betrayd> the_drow: nice, and simple cant get better than that
[16:07] <the_drow> michealPW: I swear I didn't do it.
[16:08] <betrayd> tell that to the cops =)
[16:08] <cato_> onr: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic]
[16:08] <betrayd> or are you rehearsing the_drow
[16:08] <Killers> http://itchat-gratuit.fr/flashirc/ :$
[16:08] <shortstraw8> I keep getting a promt to run a libreoffice plugin but it then says no plugin found. I am sick of jumping back and forth from desktop to laptop for school. I have checked on the software center where I installed it from and everything but clipart and turkish spellcheck is on. running 12.04 using chrome. any ideas?
[16:08] <cato_> onr: I'm on a mid-2011 macbook air
[16:08] <caelan> No, the problem still occurs.
[16:08] <michealPW> Oh god.. MacBook :(
[16:08] <nanashiRei> "I have an iPhone can i please install Windows on it?" :D *smurks badly much*
[16:08] <l0rd_r4v3n> ls
[16:08] <the_drow> Now, I have three more minor problems. When I logged in using the shell it said that a new ubuntu version is available (13.04). However I have it installed already and when I type do-release-upgrade it says that there are no new releases.
[16:08] <michealPW> I sold my MacBook Pro and got a real laptop by ASUS, with AMD hardware in it.
[16:08] <michealPW> Piece of crap MBP.
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> cato_  that's a tiny detail you didn't mention
[16:09] <the_drow> What the hell went wrong there? :P
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> the_drow: You probably have a mixed system somewhere... try [ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade ]
[16:09] <caelan> So, any more ideas? "Does anyone else have any clue what's going on? Basically, my sound is cracking and popping when playing music. But i've noticed it does this when I do something on the computer, like for instance, shake around one of the open windows. Or start reloading a page in Chrome. I've had the problem since day one with ubuntu, (11.10 and onwards). Thanks."
[16:09] <michealPW> cato_: It's not impossible, but I will warn you that you are in for a very, very steep climb up a very tall mountain, if your MacBook Air is anything like my MacBook Pro was.
[16:09] <OerHeks> cato_,  did it work before? no solution in the mactel pages?
[16:09] <cato_> MonkeyDust: It's a pretty common Intel sound card, no?
[16:10] <cato_> OerHeks: it worked great in 12.10 right out of the box
[16:10] <Killers> http://itchat-gratuit.fr/flashirc/ :$
[16:10] <betrayd> caelan: do pops/nosie occur with just the PC speaker (no jack)
[16:10] <betrayd> noise^
[16:11] <sirkhctiw> can someone help me with getting my opimus gt540m working with bumblebee
[16:11] <ptero_> hello, i've installed ubuntu 12.04 lts on virtualbox yesterday. everything was fine, but overnight i've got ram shortage on the host. so i switched do console and told VBoxManage to save-state. however, the snapshot became corrupted and i had to discard it (which means simple poweroff for the machine). after that it refused to start, i'm getting the splashscreen with 5 red dots and nothing more. i booted from the cd and ran boot-repair after 
[16:11] <sirkhctiw> ?
[16:11] <caelan> As I said before, I tried it on my main stereo setup too, the problem persists.
[16:11] <gavinguo> hi all, if there is any method to build kernel without rebuilding the kernel every time if I just modified a file. Currently, I build the ubuntu kernel using command like "fakeroot debian/rules clean binary-generic"
[16:11] <michealPW> cato_: Oh really?! Wow you're lucky man! I fought with my MacBook Pro and every distribution of Linux I have, including the nightly build of 13.04. No luck. Ended up selling it :\
[16:12] <makara> how can I make a desktop shortcut to a bash script?
[16:12] <betrayd> caelan just the PC speaker
[16:12] <caelan> And the fact that it only happens when I do something on the computer also says it's not the speakers.
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> gavinguo  #ubuntu-kernel
[16:12] <michealPW> makara: A .desktop file.
[16:12] <caelan> Oh, you mean the internal PC speaker?
[16:12] <michealPW> makara: Set Terminal=true
[16:12] <betrayd> caelan: yes
[16:12] <ubuntu__> I do not remember my password how I can recover it. It needs for authentication
[16:12] <michealPW> I think, is the property.
[16:12] <cato_> michaelPW: the macbook air was fully supported in 12.10, which is why i was so shocked that 13.04 broke the audio
[16:12] <caelan> OK, I will have a go.
[16:12] <michealPW> If you google .desktop files, you'll find the OpenDesktop page about them. They're very good to learn, very simple.
[16:12] <the_drow> Second the IRC online account keeps unauthorizing itself. When I click grant access I get a tooltip that says that applications cannot use this online account anymore. Please grant access...
[16:12] <michealPW> Everything is a .desktop file (rofl)
[16:13] <michealPW> cato_: That's weird! I agree.
[16:13] <ubuntu__> I do not remember the password of ubuntu login
[16:13] <betrayd> but you're ubuntu__ !
[16:13] <caelan> OK, How do I make it use the internal PC speaker?
[16:13] <mamed> BluesKaj, it did not work : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+build/4502367
[16:13] <michealPW> cato_: Could you just run 12.10? Personally I can't even see much of a difference between this 13.04 and my 12.10 haha.
[16:13] <michealPW> cato_: I know, not an elegant solution...
[16:13] <cato_> michaelPW: i don't think downgrading is that simple
[16:14] <michealPW> It wont be
[16:14] <makara> michealPW, thanks!
[16:14] <ubuntu__> I am having ubuntu 12.4 but I do not know the password of my login. It needs me for authentication of every software
[16:14] <michealPW> You'll have to replace your 13.04 with 12.10 :\
[16:14] <sirkhctiw> Does anyone know anything about getting optimus working with 13.04? I keep breaking my system when I install bumblebee.
[16:14] <the_drow> SonikkuAmerica: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded...
[16:14] <betrayd> caelan: hmm, if you unplug the jack should be default output but irecall you mentioned pulse...
[16:14] <umib0zu> anyone here savvy on ubuntu virtual machines? mine seems to not be able to connect to the internet and I can't seem to figure out why. not sure if this is the best place to ask but I figured it would be worth a try
[16:15] <compdoc> umib0zu, is it kvm?
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> umib0zu  change the network setting to 'bridged'
[16:15] <johnjohn1011> going to move my home to a new partition.  I should be able to use the same home in dual boot 12.04 and 13.04 system, correct?
[16:15] <ubuntu__> how i can recover the password of my ubuntu login
[16:16] <betrayd> johnjohn1011: watchyour /etc/fstab
[16:16] <michealPW> johnjohn1011: Uhh, Iunno if that is correct.
[16:16] <the_drow> ubuntu__: Just create a new one...
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> johnjohn1011  /home contains config files and folders, it may be conflicting
[16:16] <the_drow> ubuntu__: passwd youruser
[16:16] <umib0zu> compdoc, kvm is a filetype right? no its an ova
[16:16] <zoktar> Is there a way to automatically run a test compile on the side of regular apt-get installs (if it has a source), just to see if it "recompiles" on my system?
[16:16] <johnjohn1011> should i create a home1204 and a home1304 folder?
[16:16] <the_drow> ubuntu__: it will ask you for the new password. make sure you are root.
[16:17] <minimec> ubuntu__: I told you the solution. boot the machine in 'recovery mode', drop to a root shell. then change the password...
[16:17] <michealPW> johnjohn1011: Most, if not all configuration files are stored in your home directory. Moving the whole home folder over will also move these configuration files over, things that are just not transferable from 12.04 to 13.04. That's a big leap.
[16:17] <compdoc> umib0zu, no, there are several VM packages you could be using: virtualbox, qeum-kvm, vmware and others
[16:17] <michealPW> zoktar: I think there's a build-deps or build-dependencies command you can do
[16:18] <michealPW> mm, I can't remember what it is.
[16:18] <johnjohn1011> i really want to test 13.04 before i use it full time
[16:18] <harris> anyone play clash of clans
[16:18] <compdoc> 'ubuntu virtual machines' isnt telling me much
[16:18] <umib0zu> compdoc oh. sorry. its virtualbox
[16:18] <johnjohn1011> too many horror stories from what i read here.
[16:18] <CiSense>  (13.04) -  where should ppa packages be located in the file system?
[16:18] <michealPW> johnjohn1011: Oh, that's simple enough. Download and burn a copy of the Ubuntu 12.03 LiveDVD.
[16:18] <michealPW> johnjohn1011: That way, you can start your computer from the LiveDVD and test it out on your computer, without making any physical changes to your computer (y)
[16:19] <michealPW> CiSense: PPA "packages" aren't really "packages" per se, as far as I know. They're just an easy way to add entries into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <johnjohn1011> livecd doesn't have the latest updates nor the items i need to check out
[16:19] <michealPW> I think that's the name/path of that file. It's your apt repositories list, your sources list.
[16:19] <michealPW> johnjohn1011: Hypothetically speaking, you can boot the liveDVD and install whatever packages you want to test out...
[16:20] <CiSense> michealPW, hi, i mean where should a package be moved to after downloading and unpacking?
[16:21] <michealPW> CiSense: Do you mean a .deb file? What do you mean by package?
[16:21] <michealPW> CiSense: If it's a .tar.gz, .tar.bz archive, you can unpack it pretty much anywhere. Try creating a ~/src folder and put it there. (The ~/ means your home folder)
[16:22] <michealPW> CiSense: If it's a .tar.gz or the like, it's an archive of the program's source code. You'll have to compile it after unpacking it. Just unpack it and read the included README or INSTALL files.
[16:22] <CiSense> michealPW, i mean after unpacking so the shell script can be executed
[16:22] <ubuntu> its asking me root password..and that too i didn't know
[16:23] <Guest62770> whenever i try to install and software in ubuntu they are asking me authentication password that i didn't know at all...can you please tell me the way to recover my earlier password or to set new password...please explain in procedure if you can
[16:23] <minimec> Guest62770: That is strange, as normally, there is no root password defined by default. If you just hit the <enter> key?
[16:24] <CiSense> michealPW, it's a folder containing the binaries and data
[16:24] <Aaruni> Guest62770: its usually the password you have set on your User Account
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest62770  try the password you use to login
[16:25] <[JethroDawnfine]> minimec: I think it's not asking for root password, but user password, isn't it?
[16:26] <Aaruni> [JethroDawnfine]: if there is only one user, then the root password and user password are same, no ?
[16:26] <minimec> [JethroDawnfine]: He cannot remamber his user password, because he has autolgin enabled...
[16:26] <Guest62770> can anyone help please...i didn't know any of the password of any type ...its damn urgent
[16:26] <michealPW> CiSense: Oh, in that case there should still be a README or INSTALL. Typicall you want to put the binary in /usr/bin, make sure it has the execute permission (sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/binary)
[16:26] <michealPW> Then move the icon into /usr/share/pixmaps, the .desktop shortcut file into /usr/share/applications
[16:26] <CiSense> michealPW, ah thank you!
[16:26] <DaVinciIT> hi all. I would like to write an ip address on Nautilius to access to a Windows Server (e.g. \\192.168.0.10\sharedFodler\
[16:27] <DaVinciIT> how to ? thank you
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> Guest62770  try to remember the password you invented to login
[16:27] <michealPW> And double-check that the .desktop file actually points to the proper filenames. Skype, for example, does not put in the right icon filenames (Silly)
[16:27] <[JethroDawnfine]> root password is not the same as user password unless he has set it
[16:27] <michealPW> Also most data like avatars, sounds etc. you can make a directory in /usr/share/, for example: sudo mkdir /usr/share/skype
[16:27] <michealPW> Then cp all that stuff there: sudo cp -R ./avatars /usr/share/skype/
[16:27] <streulma> Hi someone use Ubuntu on a Mac?
[16:28] <michealPW> Sorry, just using Skype since it's the last thing I manually installed LOL fresh in my memory :P
[16:28] <deadweasel> howdy folks!  I'm trying to determine how 12.04 x64 handles sound?  pulseaudio --check returns nothing...
[16:28] <Aaruni> Guest62770: if you are the only user on the system, then try to remember the password you set when installing Ubuntu. If there is another admin user, he can reset your password for you (and its probably the admin password which Ubuntu is asking)
[16:28] <streulma> I find 13.04 not stable
[16:28] <Aaruni> streulma: you can use VMs
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> streulma  if you prefer an earlier release: backup and reinstall that older release
[16:29] <akashj87> any print to pdf option in ubuntu ? like acrobat professional in windows
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> akashj87  in whàt?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> !pdf
[16:31] <anev> just installed 13.04 but under sound all i see is a dummy device
[16:31] <Aaruni> akashj87: you can print, and then in the printer select, choose save to file
[16:31] <michealPW> streulma: Ubuintu 13.04 is the latest, bleeding edge version. It has all the latest software available.
[16:32] <michealPW> streulma: If you want rock-solid stability and security, you should probably pick Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. LTS is Long-Term Support. This will be supported all the way up to 2017.
[16:32] <michealPW> Rock sold ;)
[16:32] <anev> checking lspic i can see the audio device: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[16:33] <anev> lspci*
[16:33] <compdoc> caelan, after install the 3 files with the command:  sudo dpkg -i <file name>    , I had to:  run sudo apt-get -f install, then install them again:   sudo dpkg -i <file name>
[16:34] <CiSense> michealPW, ok now the folder is in /usr/bin and executable, how can I run it without having to open a terminal?
[16:34] <michealPW> You move the .desktop file (If there is one) into /usr/share/applications.
[16:34] <betrayd> run it, see if it works
[16:34] <michealPW> First test the binary, though.
[16:35] <michealPW> Run it in a terminal, like betrayd suggests. Make sure there's no errors.
[16:35] <betrayd>  and that was the last we saw of him...
[16:35] <CiSense> michealPW, it runs fine, it's just awkward having to use a terminal each time
[16:35] <Aaruni> akashj87: http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=NAH6
[16:36] <akashj87> Aaruni, got it. Many thanks ! Exactly what i was looking for.
[16:36] <akashj87> poor me, i thought i would need a software install for this. But ubuntu had it already !
[16:36] <michealPW> CiSense: Excellent! So now, did the package come with a .desktop file?
[16:36] <michealPW> Easy to find if you use ls -al in a terminal to list the directory contents. I think Nautilus will hide the .desktop extension and put a pretty name on it hehe
[16:36] <Aaruni> akashj87: glad I could be of help
[16:38] <CiSense> michealPW, no .desktop file
[16:38] <michealPW> Fiddle sticks!
[16:38] <michealPW> You'll have to make your own then :P
[16:38] <michealPW> It's not difficult
[16:38] <michealPW> Just a couple property=value entries\
[16:38] <CiSense> michealPW, that's one way to say it ;)
[16:38] <michealPW> For example: name=A Pretty Name for your Program
[16:38] <michealPW> etc.
[16:39] <michealPW> exec=/usr/bin/binary
[16:39] <CiSense> michealPW, i'll look for an example
[16:39] <michealPW> You can find examples in /usr/share/applications
[16:39] <CiSense> ta
[16:39] <michealPW> That's *all* your shortcuts that make up your "start menu", the list of "startup applications" etc. etc. Actually wait I think startup apps are in /usr/share/xdg/autostart
[16:39] <quist> Hey everybody, does anybody now if i can eject a usb-device with the "eject" -command, specified by it's UUID?
[16:39] <michealPW> Anyways, moot point :P
[16:40] <michealPW> Also, don't be discouraged.. The .desktop files you'll find in /usr/share/applications are verbose... They have many many many options that aren't necessary.
[16:40] <michealPW> For example, multi-language options and this 'n that ;P
[16:41] <betrayd> quist: as long as its unmounted but i'm not sure of uuid to work with it
[16:41] <OerHeks> latest ubuntu tweak can do the .desktop shortcuts fine.
[16:41] <deadweasel> how do I determine what audio system is currently running?  12.04 x64
[16:41] <sirkhctiw> Does anyone know anything about getting optimus working with 13.04? I keep breaking my system when I install bumblebee.
[16:43] <michealPW> OerHeks: What do you mean?
[16:43] <michealPW> OerHeks: It has a nice .desktop editor, or?
[16:44] <michealPW> Or it stops nautilus from acting like a psycho when trying to view/edit .desktop files, hehe?
[16:44] <OerHeks> michealPW, yes, it has an editor > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tweak-0-8-4-released-and-installation-instructions-for-ubuntu-13-04-included.html
[16:44] <nonick> Hi
[16:45] <OerHeks> last screenshot
[16:45] <michealPW> Oh neat!
[16:45] <nonick> Anyone can help me?
[16:45] <nonick> Plz
[16:45] <nonick> I'm having issues with my ubuntu
[16:45] <Enemtee> don't we all :)
[16:46] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10...
[16:46] <whiskers75> Lenovo G570.
[16:46] <Aaruni> !helo
[16:46] <Aaruni> !help
[16:46] <Aaruni> !help nonick
[16:47] <nonick> I lost my graphical interface. How can I get it back?
[16:47] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10... - Lenovo G570 with Intel Integrated Graphics (repost to follow one-line guideline)
[16:47] <whiskers75> nonick, meaning?
[16:47] <Aww> nonick, reboot?
[16:47] <lucido> How can I force my ubuntu (propriatery nvidia driver with VGA connector) to output to my 1366x768 LCD TV in the correct resolution?
[16:47] <nonick> I already reboot, but once I reboot I was in a blank screen
[16:47] <michealPW> nonick: Did you just install a graphics driver?
[16:47] <Enemtee> nonick: open a terminal and write: "sudo restart unity" and see what happens
[16:48] <nonick> Nope, I tried to work with e17 but that gave me some issues with the network interface
[16:48] <nonick> So I moved back to gnome then removed a package that was giving me issues libe<something>1
[16:49] <whiskers75> Use Ubuntu Software Centre's History of removed packages
[16:49] <whiskers75> it might just help
[16:49] <michealPW> mm, yea. Removing packages usually is not the way to fix issues.
[16:49] <nonick> After that I did "apt-get update / upgrade / dist-upgrade" then rebooted and got no graphical interface since then
[16:50] <Aaruni> nonick: maybe you need to install proprietary graphics drivers ?
[16:50] <makara> no he doesn't
[16:50] <nonick> Already have them
[16:50] <nonick> Ati drivers
[16:50] <michealPW> dist-upgrade doesn't do what you expect? It does the same thing, essentially (safer) that upgrade does. To fix errors with apt, use: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:50] <michealPW> The -f stands for fix :P
[16:50] <nonick> Enemtee: I will try that TY very much
[16:51] <michealPW> nonick: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[16:51] <yahyaa> just installed evolution, but it wont connect to my gmail account
[16:51] <michealPW> copy/paste that, please. Then copy/paste the url it gives you.
[16:52] <betrayd>  lucido was the tv detected at boot (showed similar boot up screen, etc)
[16:52] <nonick> TY michealPW
[16:52] <nonick> I will do those steps
[16:52] <nonick> gotta go coz am from irssi as got no hexchat
[16:52] <michealPW> It will help finding the problem easier.
[16:52] <nonick> Ok, TY
[16:52] <michealPW> To switch terminals, just use Ctrl+Alt+F#
[16:53] <michealPW> Like F1 - F6.
[16:53] <makara> yahyaa, gmail account?
[16:53] <lucido> betrayd, yes, it is
[16:53] <makara> needs per application passwords
[16:54] <yahyaa> yes
[16:54] <cemycc> Someone here can please tell me if ubuntu 13.04 have software raid installtion on partition manager ?
[16:54] <cemycc> Or i need to use the old way with mdadm ?
[16:55] <makara> yahyaa, and for that you need 2-step verification, and for that you need to give google your phone number
[16:55] <nonick> Ok michealPW I already installed pastebinit
[16:55] <nonick> Should I reboot again?
[16:56] <yahyaa> already did that
[16:56] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10... - Lenovo G570 with Intel Integrated Graphics (repost 2)
[16:57] <makara> whiskers75, post a question
[16:57] <whiskers75> on AU?
[16:57] <nonick> Is there a way to leave only e17 as windows manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:58] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10... - Lenovo G570 with Intel Integrated Graphics - how to fix? Any graphics drivers? (repost 2)
[16:59] <betrayd> normally lucido there is nvidia server settings, see if you can use their tool to add a display - they have a nice GUI.
[16:59] <minimec> nonick: DO you have a running Xserver now? I am using e17, but I can choose my WM at login. I don't see a reason to remove unity.
[17:00] <zetheroo> I still find Ubuntu Software Center slow with installing apps in 13.04
[17:00] <michealPW> You never want to *remove* things like Unity. If you want to use another Window Manager or even another Display Manager, just install it and set it to run in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:01] <michealPW> Purging and removing things is how you got yourself into the unstable boat you're in right now, In my opinion (As an outsider looking in, of course...)
[17:01] <michealPW> zetheroo: Slow as in compared to Software Center in 12.10?
[17:02] <lucido> betrayd, it only offers 1360x768 resolution, when I chose that the TV changes resolution but to a different value
[17:02] <Guest52081> !roulette
[17:02] <moppers> there's no such thing as an unstable boat, it will roll over into a stable position
[17:03] <zetheroo> michealPW: not slower ... but just as slow! Before USC there was just some little installer GUI which was MUCH faster ... IMO USC is not an improvement on Ubuntu as a whole! :P
[17:04] <iliketocode> Hi all, say I am having a bit of an issue with lm-profiler
[17:05] <michealPW> zetheroo: Oh!
[17:05] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10... - Lenovo G570 with Intel Integrated Graphics - how to fix? Any graphics drivers? (repost 4)
[17:05] <iliketocode> I have disabled some programs that I need and now I cannot figure out how to reverse them
[17:05] <michealPW> zetheroo: Right you are, sir. So let me just give you the generic spheel... Those older tools, such as Synaptic Package Manager and Muon, were just graphical wrappers for apt-get. That's all they were.
[17:05] <whiskers75> iliketocode, "disabled"?
[17:06] <zetheroo> michealPW: I still use SPM for all things installed from the repos ...
[17:06] <michealPW> zetheroo: USC, on the other hand, uses a different backend and does a *lot* more work in the background to make things "easier" for new users.
[17:06] <moppers> SPM is very useful for power users, still
[17:06] <zetheroo> michealPW: but when I download a DEB package it automatically wants to use USC to install it
[17:06] <michealPW> zetheroo: Indeed! I find myself using apt-get from a terminal more than anything heehee!
[17:07] <michealPW> zetheroo: The thing is, if you load a .deb into USC, USC will actually determine and *correct* dependency problems....
[17:07] <michealPW> It will download and install dependencies *and* handle the order correctly. Nothing else does that.
[17:07] <iliketocode> Yes whiskers75, you run lm-profiler and you can manually disable programs that are writing to that hard drive.
[17:07] <michealPW> If you dpkg a .deb, it'll *force* it into the system even if that action completely hoses your entire package manager (rofl)
[17:07] <michealPW> USC will not.
[17:07] <michealPW> That's why it's so much slower..
[17:07] <michealPW> It does much, much more in the background
[17:08] <Aaruni> doesn't apt-get also do that? (but while installing from online source, not .deb package)
[17:08] <iliketocode> I tried it out and now I would like to undo the changers but can't find how to do it anyway
[17:08] <minimec> zetheroo: michealPW: Consider the installation of gdebi, as it would resolv dependencies too, and you can use it on console 'gdebi' and with a gui 'gdebi-gtk'.
[17:08] <voldyman> guys i built a package from source using debuild and installed it, now i want to update the package from the ppa but it doesn't, any ideas?
[17:08] <zetheroo> michealPW: I see .. but I still would like to see USC perform it's task with a little more pazzaz! LOL
[17:08] <luis_> hello
[17:09] <luis_> my libreoffice doesn't work load up can any1 help me please?
[17:09] <michealPW> zetheroo: haha! Yea. As far as changing the association of a .deb file, I'm sure that shouldn't be too difficult. I think if you install SPM you can have it take Association? :\
[17:09] <zetheroo> michealPW: not sure ... never tried :P
[17:09] <michealPW> I'm not entirely sure how file associations work on Ubuntu
[17:10] <luis_> I click on libreoffice and it doesn't run at all..
[17:10] <luis_> I tried re-installing it but no luck
[17:11] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10... - Lenovo G570 with Intel Integrated Graphics - how to fix? Any graphics drivers? (repost 5)
[17:11] <luis_> any ideas or suggestions please?
[17:11] <zetheroo> how do I clear my system cache ... system monitor shows 2.5GB in my cache ...
[17:11] <whiskers75> luis_: run it in terminal
[17:12] <luis_> i did and it doesn't do anything i typed 'libreoffice'
[17:12] <betrayd> lucido: check the Xorg.0.log usually outputs resolutions supported (also mostly comes from TV giving back edid info)
[17:12] <iliketocode> This is crazy I am looking everywhere and can't find anything!
[17:12] <voldyman> is there anyway to identify a package from a ppa i.e install is using sudo apt-get install ppa:\\sdfs\mypackage..
[17:12] <minimec> zetheroo: michealPW: File associations... 'right click' -> properties on a .deb file... then 'open with' ...
[17:12] <moppers> hi guys, ssd user here. what is the absolute minimum disk space i can install ubuntu into (using the standard installer)
[17:13] <DJones> !requirements | moppers
[17:13] <luis_> so what can I do ?
[17:13] <zetheroo> minimec: yes I know how to do that ... but will SPM deal with all the dependencies automatically!?
[17:13] <michealPW> minimec: Does that persist, though?
[17:13] <lucido> betrayd, I need a way to circumvent edid because it's wrong
[17:13] <michealPW> minimec: Or would you have to open with everytime?
[17:13] <moppers> DJones, thanks for info, however that is recommended minimum, not minimum
[17:14] <minimec> michealPW: Just once.
[17:14] <betrayd> lucido: thats from the TV itself though
[17:14] <chrisinleedsuk> Evening all, looking for a bit of help installing Lubuntu onto an RM laptop. Am I in the right place?
[17:14] <luis_> All of the other applications work fine execept libre office..
[17:15] <michealPW> luis_: When you type libreoffice-writer in a terminal, what happens?
[17:15] <minimec> zetheroo: michealPW: That's why I use gdebi. Its miles faster and resolves dependencies. 'sudo apt-get install gdebi'
[17:15] <michealPW> Wait, I think that's the name of it hehe
[17:15] <DJones> moppers: That is the official guidelines, so yes it that is the recommended minimum, if you're looking to install  in less than that, then you you need to research it more
[17:15] <michealPW> minimec: Nice! I'll check it out ;)
[17:16] <zetheroo> minimec: isn't that what the old installer was before USC ?
[17:16] <hirru27> Hi guys, I am new to ubuntu and the ping backup utility, can anyone help me backup ubuntu 10.04 using the ping software...?
[17:16] <chrisinleedsuk> Anyone free to give me a bit of advice please?
[17:16] <minimec> zetheroo: The software manager should handle the dependencies too without problems, genenerally.
[17:16] <luis_> command not found
[17:17] <michealPW> chrisinleedsuk, what do you mean RM laptop?
[17:17] <luis_> i did an  sudo apt-get install libreoffice-writer and it says its installed
[17:17] <michealPW> ARM?
[17:17] <minimec> zetheroo: Maybe gdebi was installed as default once. That is possible, as I always used it, but don't remember it beeing default or not.
[17:18] <betrayd> nvidia notes, lucido http://is.gd/Xa3USQ
[17:18] <chrisinleedsuk> RM is a brand in the UK, mainly for educational PCs. Basically Compal and aka Elonex
[17:18] <betrayd> lucido: re edid
[17:18] <michealPW> luis_: No I mean, just run it from a terminal. Type: libreoffice
[17:18] <varun_> zetheroo, all the popular software managers can handle dependencies, including USC, SPM, & apt
[17:18] <michealPW> in a terminal. See what errors you get.
[17:18] <zetheroo> minimec: yes, I just tried it now and this is what was used before USC ... very nice! Thanks ;)
[17:18] <iliketocode> Anyone know how to undo lm-profiler?
[17:18] <michealPW> That will give you a place to start troubleshooting, at least.
[17:19] <minimec> zetheroo: no problem
[17:19] <luis_> none i run the command in the terminal and doesn't output any errors
[17:19] <chrisinleedsuk> I've installed using the graphical installer and on booting it gets as far as the Lubuntu splash screen before flashing/alternating between a white curos/black background, blank screen and a white cursor on a black background
[17:19] <betrayd> aren't the commands in libreoffice like calc or note or something?
[17:20] <michealPW> I don't know, honestly. I hate libreoffice (blush)
[17:20] <chrisinleedsuk> Sorry, meant to write alternative installer.
[17:20] <whiskers75> Ubuntu 13.04, lots of graphical bugs (Hedgewars doesn't work, fullscreen Youtube looks weird). It was about OK on 12.10... - Lenovo G570 with Intel Integrated Graphics - how to fix? Any graphics drivers? (repost 6, please help)
[17:21] <chrisinleedsuk> I've installed using the alternative installer and on booting it gets as far as the Lubuntu splash screen before flashing/alternating between a white curos/black background, blank screen and a white cursor on a black background
[17:21] <rubi0001> Can a guest os, installed in VBox, be run in conjunction with Ubuntu from the boot stage?
[17:21] <Aaruni> !help | whiskers75
[17:21] <whiskers75> !patience
[17:21] <luis_> maybe openoffice may work
[17:22] <th0r> rubi0001: I don't think it would be easy. Vbox requires X and X requires a user to be logged in.
[17:23] <th0r> rubi0001: you could set up a user to be automatically logged on boot, and then invoke Vbox as an autostart function for that user
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> chrisinleedsuk, Have you tried nomodeset in the grub boot?
[17:25] <Khaleel78> is 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:"NAME OF PPA"' the right command to add a repository
[17:25] <michealPW> yes
[17:25] <rubi0001> th0r: I want it to be more sepecial and Secretly
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> Khaleel78, Go to the ppa the instructions are there and you cam confirm they have releases for you install.
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> can*
[17:26] <rubi0001> complete describe: Is it possible that the operating system is installed into the virtualbox, be booted alongside Ubnutu (or with some delay) in order to both operating systems ready to serve after boot?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Khaleel78  mind: ppa's are not supported here, if they break your system, you're on your own
 I'm a Linux noob but have managed to get to Grub. Do I just try entering that anywhere in the text box?
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> Khaleel78, Never just add a ppa without checking on it directly.
[17:27] <Khaleel78> ok, I've used it before
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | chrisinleedsuk
[17:27] <Khaleel78> I just wanted to confirm the command since I can't find the tutorial for it
[17:27] <rubi0001> On the other hand, can Ubuntu be accompanied by a geust os during boot process?
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> chrisinleedsuk, The link tells you how and where to insert nomodeset, it is a persession boot from the grub bootloader.
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> chrisinleedsuk  do RM laptops come without OS preinstalled?
[17:33] <chrisinleedsuk> Wilee-Nilee - Yeah, followed the link and tried it but still having the same problem.
[17:33] <michealPW> Wow that was completely ridiculous..
[17:34] <michealPW> I got a low battery warning.. Get up to get my cord and stupid Ubuntu Power Management forced a shutdown :|
[17:34] <michealPW> What kinda low bat response is that LMAO
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> chrisinleedsuk, Not sure then here, my first guess is usually missing graphic drivers.
[17:34] <chrisinleedsuk> Monkey Dust, was running windows XP originally but after trying windows 7 and 8 on other machines xp seems so slow and dull so thought I'd try something new. Someone mentioned that if I could get Lubuntu to work it might suit me.
[17:35] <betrayd> lol AI michealPW
[17:35] <michealPW> Don't know why I never seem to have Hibernate available. Is Hibernate not even supported by Ubuntu anymore? With any driver it's a grayed-out option.
[17:35] <LucidGuy>  Looking to backup an entire drive with 7 pre created partitions from the vendor (Windows8 Samsung Laptop - NEW)  I want something extremely reliable.. I'm thinking simply dd if=/sda of=/storage/mybackup.iso  Would this be a good suggestion?  Will I end up with a file exactly the same size as the disk?  or Only what is used?
[17:36] <michealPW> Using open source Gallium and proprietary fglrx. No Hibernate... No Hibernate on a laptop is pretty ridiculous :O
[17:36] <michealPW> LucidGuy: Just use Windows 7's Backup & Restore utility. You can use it to create a full image of your disk, spread out accross multiple DVDs.
[17:37] <michealPW> *shrugs*
[17:37] <michealPW> It works.
[17:37] <michealPW> Reliable, 'cause the DVDs are then stand-alone.
[17:37] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: OK. Can you give me some further info? 1.) Why did you use the alternate installer? Do you know that graphics device (GPU) you have? Did you try to boot in 'recovery mode'?
[17:37] <michealPW> Unless I'm misunderstanding your question?
[17:37] <chrisinleedsuk> Just given it a second try to make sure I did it right but same issue :o(
[17:37] <michealPW> You want to backup win7 and it's pre-created partitions?
[17:38] <Aaruni> michealPW: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[17:38] <michealPW> Thx Aaruni ;)
[17:38] <Aaruni> no prob!
[17:39] <shortstraw8> Any ideas on why my libreoffice plugin would not work on chrome?
[17:39] <chrisinleedsuk> Tried alternate installer as the graphical one produced this flashing screen part way through. The system isn't super-duper with about 750MB RAM so thought maybe alt installer might be worth a try. The graphics card is onboard SiS 650
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> shortstraw8, what plugin?
[17:39] <LucidGuy> michealPW, I want to backup this up from a linux live cd
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> LucidGuy, I would clone it with clonezilla, not sure why you want an iso.
[17:41] <michealPW> SCORE!
[17:41] <michealPW> Success Aaruni
[17:41] <Aaruni> michaelni: ? enabled hibernate ?
[17:41] <Aaruni> :)
[17:41] <michealPW> :)
[17:42] <shortstraw8> no idea I get a promt for it through my school website on certain assignments. Acts like a java plugin and ask to run then says not plugin available. I have searched to find what it is talking about with no avail.
[17:42] <LucidGuy> wilee-nilee, no need for ISO .. it wouldnt be an iso anyways.  Just want a file for a target
[17:42] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: It's your GPU that is not well supported. You could try to configure a graphical environment via confog file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'. The experience would not be great....
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> LucidGuy, clonezilla saves it in packages, there are windows based cloners that save as is.
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> W7 has a one time imager up to the pro version which is unlimited
[17:43] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: That's why you had the problems with the installer. There is no restricted driver for your card, and the open source driver *su.ks*
[17:43] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - The user experience on xp wasn't anything to write home about lol
[17:44] <shortstraw8> no idea I get a promt for it through my school website on certain assignments. Acts like a java plugin and ask to run then says not plugin available. I have searched to find what it is talking about with no avail.
[17:44] <chrisinleedsuk> Isn't there an alternative to Xorg called vesa?
[17:44] <shortstraw8> wilee-nilee,  no idea I get a promt for it through my school website on certain assignments. Acts like a java plugin and ask to run then says not plugin available. I have searched to find what it is talking about with no avail.
[17:45] <brian____> chrisinleedsuk, there are a few alternatives
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !vesa | chrisinleedsuk not much info
[17:45] <moppers> Why does ubuntu not provide torrents for the installers? Then ask for donations for bandwidth to download? ;-)
[17:45] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Ok. You can give it a try. You would need to create a file named /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I try to find some example for you. There you need to set the driver of your GPU 'driver=framebuffer' or 'driver=vga'...
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> shortstraw8, You can access all the web stuff with FF then right?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> the schools on site web pages
[17:46] <chrisinleedsuk> Well what's my best option to try first guys?
[17:46] <shortstraw8> wilee-nilee, sorry what is FF?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> firefox
[17:46] <Aaruni> FireFox
[17:46] <Aaruni> ff
[17:47] <ramblingpirate> chrisinleedsuk, vesa is just a driver for Xorg.
[17:47] <Aaruni> !vesa
[17:47] <moppers> wayland, mir are the 'replacements' for x
[17:47] <chrisinleedsuk> ramblingpirate Ah ok, is it like a generic one or something along those lines?
[17:47] <Aaruni> I installed the propereitary drivers for my ATI, but it still shows VESA:PARK
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> shortstraw8, I ask as I had a link from my college for web classwork that would not link up with open source, I'm trying to confirm you have access at all.
[17:48] <shortstraw8> wilee-nilee,  Oh, some of it but not all. I usually try that before heading to my laptop with Win
[17:48] <ramblingpirate> has anyone actually tried wayland or mir?
[17:48] <michealPW> Wow SiS gpu
[17:48] <ramblingpirate> chrisinleedsuk, yes, it's the default driver when Xorg can't find a better one.
[17:48] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: so, if its default, then why is it still there, after installing ati drivers ?
[17:49] <ramblingpirate> easiest way is to open ubuntu software center and hit edit ---> software sources
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> shortstraw8, You might talk with the schools IT rep for this for best service.
[17:49] <chrisinleedsuk> So how do I go about making this file? Can I access a command based user interface somewhere?
[17:49] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: I would reboot in 'recovery mode' and then do 'sudo Xorg -configure' in a 'root' console. The output will be how the system sees the card. You would then only have to modify that file.
[17:50] <brian____> Aaruni, installing new drivers doesnt remove pre-existing ones
[17:50] <yeehi> where is the sha256sum for Raring 64bit? md5sum should be treated as insecure...
[17:50] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, no idea, it could be quite a few things, you'll have to be more specific.
[17:50] <Aaruni> brian____: but the existing ones should be unloaded, for the new drivers to work ?
[17:50] <shortstraw8> wilee-nilee, They are no help with linux because the rules state that we need a windows OS. Just thought I would ask though. Thanks
[17:51] <OerHeks> yeehi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM
[17:51] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I can not possible be more specific. I just found out that VESA is something like default, and I thought it was the custom ati driver
[17:51] <Aaruni> *possibly
[17:51] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, no, if you are installing AMD drivers, just install them and make sure to run 'sudo amdconfig --initial' before rebooting.
[17:51] <yeehi> Thank you OerHeks...
[17:51] <Aaruni> hmm..
[17:52] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I installed them a while back, so, is it ok to run sudo amdconfig --inital now ?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> shortstraw8, Bummer the school I just graduated from had open source labs. For me I had to just mess around with the one limited access until they got one that worked always. If you can describe your problems in detail we might be able to help better.
[17:52] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: with 'nano Xorg.conf.new' you can edit the content of that file.
[17:52] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, here, follow this: open up ubuntu software center (windows key 'software'), edit ---> sources
[17:52] <ramblingpirate> let me know when you get there.
[17:53] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec So Hold shift > into Grub > second option > second option again (generic recovery) > then drop to root shell prompt?
[17:53] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: done
[17:53] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: exactly
[17:53] <Rodja> can someone help me enable java in firefox, i've been trying for an hour and just about ready to inflict serious self-harm
[17:53] <Aww> o.o
[17:53] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, go all the way to the right side where it says 'additional drivers'
[17:53] <Rodja> i've installed "openjdk java 7 runtime" from the software center
[17:54] <Aaruni> Rodja: you have java installed in your system ?
[17:54] <Rodja> i think so
[17:54] <Rodja> on the test page it says "We are unable to verify if Java is currently installed and enabled in your browser."
[17:54] <varun_> Rodja, have you installed icedtea7 plugin?
[17:54] <yashh> guys i need help, im gonna install 13.04 from 12.04 , will this delete all my files?
[17:54] <Rodja> probably not - so that's what i should do then
[17:54] <Aww> yashh, not if you upgrade
[17:54] <Aaruni> Rodja: "sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin"
[17:54] <Rodja> the only thing i've installed is "OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime"
[17:55] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: it doesn't have any additional drivers
[17:55] <Rodja> i tried that line as well aaruni, but firefox wont let me load any java
[17:55] <yashh> aww, i didnt upgrade i downloaded seperately
[17:55] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Have a look here http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml
[17:55] <Rodja> oh wait
[17:55] <Rodja> i didnt try that sorry
[17:55] <Rodja> sec
[17:55] <quidnunc> Is there a "replace" command? A script I'm trying to use is invoking it but I don't have it on my system
[17:55] <Aww> yashh, I'm not sure it gives you the option to upgrade from the cd
[17:56] <BluesKaj> yashh, do you have separate / and  /home partitions?
[17:56] <yashh> so it will erase all the files huh?
[17:56] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, what card do you have?
[17:56] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=N43C
[17:56] <yashh> bluekaj, cant understand dude, sorry
[17:57] <Aww> yashh, if you have all your files on the same partitions then yes it will, unless you upgrade
[17:57] <ramblingpirate> ah. Aaruni, try opening up a terminal and 'sudo gtk-jockey'
[17:57] <Rodja> oh lord in heaven it worked, thank you
[17:57] <ramblingpirate> I never did like 12.04. I could never get jockey to work for me.
[17:57] <yashh> i have only one 1 partition "home"
[17:58] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: oh, jockey.. that;s a standalone app now
[17:58] <BluesKaj> yashh, best to backup all your data , you'll need to upgrade to 12.10 then 13.04
[17:59] <Aww> yashh, pop in the cd and see if it gives you the option to upgrade
[17:59] <ramblingpirate> I'm using 13.04 and it's integrated back into the software center
[17:59] <CKLMN> michealPW, hey man im back
[17:59] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: ok, I opened jockey, but I doubt whether it'll be of some help
[17:59] <Aaruni> I tried this before, and it simply doesn't work properly
[17:59] <yashh> oh ok i ll  right now, you guys will be here right?
[17:59] <Aww> yashh, most likely :)
[17:59] <yashh> ok 1 sec
[18:00] <Aaruni> so, I manually downloaded the driver from ati support site, and installed it using ./ . I never run the amd-config command after that, ramblingpirate
[18:00] <CKLMN> i have a switchable gpu and the problem is that on ubuntu it tells me i got intel graphics instead of the amd
[18:00] <CKLMN> i need to change it so it gets as gpu my amd and not the intel one
[18:00] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, that would explain why the vesa driver never got overwritten.
[18:00] <CKLMN> anyone cal help me with this ?
[18:01] <ramblingpirate> you'll have to re-run ./, and make sure to ignore it when it finishes and says 'hey, restart.'
[18:01] <Aaruni> and, run amd-config, ramblingpirate ?
[18:01] <ramblingpirate> just exit out, and type in 'sudo amdconfig --initial
[18:01] <Aaruni> ok, thanks
[18:01] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, exactly
[18:01] <ramblingpirate> jump back on and let me know if it worked
[18:01] <CKLMN> anyone can help me with switchable graphics problem ?
[18:02] <medfly> hello. I am having trouble installing the ATI driver on 13.04. I have installed the legacy driver (and previously tried the non-legacy one with less success), and glxgears fails.
[18:03] <noo> may I ask a question about 13.10 here?
[18:04] <betrayd> !ask | noo
[18:04] <BluesKaj> noo, try #ubuntu+1
[18:04] <betrayd> oh 13.10
[18:05] <betrayd> is the new +1
[18:05] <Rodja> i once had an older version of ubuntu and it had an "applicaton" tab on the top of the desktop, but now i just get a task bar with random programs. is there a way to get such an application menu?
[18:05] <Guest46202> Hi! 12.04(64bit) install.  I added a 50-0Gb HD and formatted with disk utility.  If I type sudo fdisk -l in shell, i get "Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table "  Why?  Also, can I still add this to my fstab?
[18:05] <ramblingpirate> !patience
[18:05] <noo> on Ubuntu-Gnome-13.10, all works great without an hitch but the favorite bar on the right only shows a limited number of apps for some reason.  Any way to fix it to be able to add more apps while making all of the them visible?
[18:06] <CKLMN> i need help with switchable graphics
[18:06] <mojtaba> Hi, Have anybody seen Parallel Desktop in Mac? Is there any counterpart for ubuntu? or Can I use parallel desktop in ubuntu?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> noo, ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <varun_> Rodja, try "Cairo Dock" session. You'll have to install cairo-dock metapackage from repositories.
[18:06] <Guest46202> mojtaba, vmware or virtualbox
[18:06] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, install gparted, find the 500GB hdd, right click it and pick a new partition table. Most likely it doesn't like the factory partition table
[18:07] <Rodja> thx varun
[18:07] <noo> thanks BluesKaj
[18:07] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, do I risk losing the data on it?
[18:07] <mojtaba> Guest46202: Have you seen parallel desktop? It has an invisible mode.
[18:07] <Guest46202> mojtaba, years ago.  vbox allows a full screen integration
[18:07] <mojtaba> or something like that
[18:07] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, yes. If you have any data on it, you definitely need to move it somewhere else.
[18:07] <mojtaba> Guest46202: I have vbox.
[18:08] <mojtaba> Guest46202: How can I use it in this mode?
[18:08] <Guest46202> ok ramblingpirate .. its disappointing canonical did that.
[18:08] <Guest46202> mojtaba, host F but rtfm for other tricks
[18:08] <CKLMN> need help with switchable graphics
[18:08] <mojtaba> Guest46202: what is rtfm?
[18:08] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, it's not canonical, probably just some small incompatibility between the hdd MFG and fsck.
[18:09] <Guest46202> !rtfm
[18:09] <ramblingpirate> mojtaba, old school way of saying 'read the manual'
[18:09] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec Just looking through the instructions on that site but it referes to versions 6 and 7 of Xorg but when I type X -version it says 1.13.3 but with a release date from this year. Am I looking at the wrong thing?
[18:09] <mojtaba> ramblingpirate: thanks
[18:10] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, what is the mfg on the drive? I'll do some looking around and see if there's anything we can do to fix it without moving/losing data
[18:10] <betrayd> Guest46202 did it come with windwos preinstalled?
[18:11] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, seagate
[18:11] <Guest46202> betrayd, no out of the package
[18:11] <ramblingpirate> betrayd, that was my initial guess as well.
[18:11] <Guest46202> betrayd, i dropped it in, fired up, ran disk utility and formatted ext4
[18:12] <sharif> can u help ubuntu 13.10 release date
[18:12] <betrayd> slick Guest46202
[18:12] <Guest46202> betrayd, if i blow away the partition can someone in here guide me through doing it in the shell?
[18:12] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: I have seen that... Still it gives you an overview of the specs of your GPU. I would take the Xorg.conf.new you created and try 'driver=fb' for the framebuffer, or 'driver=vesa' for the old vesa driver.
[18:12] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, you don't actually have any data on it? That makes things a lot easier.
[18:13] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, i do but i can move it off if this will make it right :)
[18:13] <Guest46202> its only 5gb
[18:13] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, also, what are you trying partition it into?
[18:13] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: did that, but still VESA:PARK
[18:13] <betrayd> Guest46202: oh ramblingpirate s got you covered
[18:14] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, let me get the AMD card model...it might be a legacy card and you're installing the newest driver or vice versa
[18:14] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, ideally, 450 as ext4 and 50gb as swap
[18:14] <brian____> Did I miss something, fresh install of 13.04 and using a HD6450, installed fglrx, and went to run amdconfig --intial and it tells me no devices found...
[18:14] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - keeping the .new suffix when I exit?
[18:14] <yashh> will backup restore the files after installing ubuntu 13.04
[18:14] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: Radeon Mobility HD 5470
[18:14] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, that's easy. get everything moved off it while I help Aaruni and get back to me in a second.
[18:14] <medfly> hey, another person with 13.04 that cannot install fglrx :)
[18:14]  * medfly waves
[18:15] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: You would have to copy that 'edited' file to /etx/X11, 'mv Xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[18:15] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, give me a second, I'll brb.
[18:15] <Aaruni> k
[18:15] <Guest46202> sure ramblingpirate  back in 10
[18:15] <michele130> !list
[18:15] <sharif> ubuntu swap  size
[18:15] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: in this command, we do not copy 'cp' but move 'mv' ;)
[18:16] <brian____> medfly, yeah, not exactly a step forward... never had a problem in any previous version.
[18:16] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - I can't write it, I'm in a read only filesystem.
[18:16] <brian____> the legacy drivers are for like hd2000 to hd4000 right?
[18:17] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: How comes. Did you switch to console with ctrl+alt+F1? You have to be in a 'root' shell.
[18:18] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec I did this:  Hold shift > into Grub > second option > second option again (generic recovery) > then drop to root shell prompt
[18:18] <medfly> brian____: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx
[18:19] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: if you 'cp Xorg.conf.new Xorg.conf.edit' and then nano 'Xorg.conf.edit' ...
[18:19] <brian____> yeah, not seeing my HD6450 on that list
[18:20] <brian____> and vesafb is in use, this is cool.
[18:20] <AlexTheRealOne> Anyone know here some good video editors like camtasia?
[18:20] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, did you get any funny errors?
[18:20] <A1Recon> is there any command to clear the terminal screen like in BASIC there was this command "cls"
[18:20] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: no
[18:20] <Guest65740> any dual booters?
[18:20] <Aaruni> it worked all smooth
[18:21] <Aaruni> Guest65740: yeah
[18:21] <ramblingpirate> and you have the kernel headers installed, I'm assuming?
[18:21] <AlexTheRealOne> A1Recon, try clear
[18:21] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I have no idea about kernel headers..
[18:21] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[18:22] <Aaruni> k, one minute
[18:22] <Guest65740> I have a pc that needs to be rescued It was windows 7 and crashed now i need to rescue it from a backup image using Ubuntu to make the image bootable any ideas?
[18:22] <arooni-mobile__> hi everyone;  my lenovo t420 had a hangover i guess this morning, and the Wifi no longer works. i'm connected with ethernet.  the wifi light isnt on on the laptop and the networ manager shows ethernet options only.  help?
[18:22] <voldyman_> hi i update to kernel 3.8 using apt-get, now my wifi is broken, sudo modprobe wl => FATAL Module wl not found
[18:22] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - It says no such file or directory - is that because it never wrote it in the first place?
[18:22] <arooni-mobile__> ubuntu 12.10
[18:22] <A1Recon> AlexTheRealOne: Thanks!!
[18:23] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, ready when you are.
[18:23] <yashh> will installing 13.04 from 12.04 erase all the files??
[18:23] <ramblingpirate> arooni-mobile__, when booted up in a live, try installing boot-rescue
[18:23] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec I just exited to recovery menu and it says filesystem state: read only.
[18:23] <anew> http://pastebin.com/LKyHMK7i are these firewall rules blocking port 25 ?
[18:23] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate:  it says already in latest version
[18:23] <Guest46202> yashh, short answer, no.
[18:23] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, do you have access to gparted or do you just really want to it in the term?
[18:23] <nemeczzz> рапра
[18:23] <yashh> short thanks
[18:23] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, interesting...let me do some more looking around
[18:23] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, either way is fine with me.. sudo apt-get install gparted suffice?
[18:24] <arooni-mobile__> ramblingpirate, i dont have a live cd
[18:24] <Aaruni> thanks, ramblingpirate
[18:24] <arooni-mobile__> ramblingpirate, is there anothre option?
[18:24] <A1Recon> I am currently learning the The Linux Command Line. I want to learn about the ultrabasic stuff like kernel, etc. because sometimes catch me off guard
[18:24] <A1Recon> ARe there any good sources for that?? ^
[18:24] <ramblingpirate> Guest46202, perfect. gparted is just way easier to talk through.
[18:24] <ramblingpirate> arooni-mobile__, are you using ubuntu right now?
[18:25] <arooni-mobile__> ramblingpirate, yes
[18:25] <Guest46202> ramblingpirate, installed.. ready/
[18:25] <arooni-mobile__> ramblingpirate, connected with same computer
[18:25] <arooni-mobile__> via ethernet
[18:25] <th0r> A1Recon: you might start with the Linux Documentation Projuect
[18:25] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate, i changed my name easier for tab completion :)
[18:26] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Hmm... Why is that. Would you mind to reboot that machine once a strat over? I cannot explain the 'read only' thing.
[18:26] <ramblingpirate> partitionhelp, word, much easier. just fire up gparted and let it find all the drives...usually takes ~3-4 seconds.
[18:26] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - and go into grub menu with shift again?
[18:26] <partitionhelp> done. i am on the /dev/sdb too (500Gb)
[18:26] <betrayd> he might be in safe mode or livCd session
[18:27] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, try purging all the fglrx packages
[18:27] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate, interestingly enough , it says unallocated
[18:27] <ramblingpirate> and then do 'sudo apt-get install fglrx'
[18:27] <ramblingpirate> partitionhelp, right click on that sucker and hit new
[18:27] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I get two options, fglrx-experimental-9 and fglrx-experimental-12
[18:27] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate, AHHH!!
[18:27] <Aaruni> which one to purge ?
[18:27] <partitionhelp> :)
[18:28] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, purge all of them
[18:28] <Aaruni> ok
[18:28] <minimec> betrayd: HE should be in 'recovery mode' of his alternate lubuntu install... What is 'safe mode'?
[18:28] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate, what type of partiton? only primary is available the rest are greyed out
[18:28] <ramblingpirate> partitionhelp, ahh as in that makes sense, or ahhh as in your entire computer just died?
[18:28] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate, no this looks like a better way than disk utility
[18:28] <betrayd> i use the terms interchangeably , my bad, minimec
[18:28] <ramblingpirate> partitionhelp, you want to do primary
[18:28] <ramblingpirate> then ext4
[18:29] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: exactly... reboot in recovery mode.
[18:29] <deadweasel> Hi Folks.  Still struggling to get ubuntu to use pulseaudio instead of my gfx card as the sound system..
[18:29] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Same thing, filsystem is read only
[18:29] <ramblingpirate> one of the options along with that should be something like "mount as: " and then you can choose if you want it as swap/main and how big.
[18:29] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I got a system error, as soon as terminal finished processing
[18:29] <partitionhelp> I made the primary 450Gb.. however, when i click on the empty space and hit new, "It is not possible to create more than 1 primary partition"
[18:29] <chrisinleedsuk> At what point would I use ctrl, alt, f1?
[18:29] <Aaruni> "Sorry, a problem occured while installing software"
[18:29] <minimec> betrayd: we both agree that, he should have write access in 'recovery mode'...
[18:30] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, and that was while purging or installing?
[18:30] <Aaruni> purging
[18:30] <arooni-mobile> can someone help me get wireless working?
[18:30] <voldyman> i update to kernel 3.8 using apt-get, now my wifi is broken, sudo modprobe wl => FATAL Module wl not found
[18:30] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Wait a second... I have to boot my laptop...
[18:31] <ramblingpirate> arooni-mobile, do 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up'
[18:31] <partitionhelp> voldyman, how important is 3.8 to you?  Just asking if it is worth the time to devote fixing wifi is all..
[18:31] <voldyman> partitionhelp, i have an overheating issue in the older kernels so i though 3.8 might help
[18:31] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: shouldn't that be sudo ipconfing wlan0 up
[18:31] <Aaruni> ?
[18:31] <Sagitt> hi all, i've an asus eeepc 1001px with ubuntu 13.04, i tapeed disable touchpad button (fn + f3) how i can re-enable it? if i press again fn + f3 it stay disabled
[18:32] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, haha, no ipconfig is windows. We're in *nix land now!
[18:32] <Aaruni> kk
[18:32] <arooni-mobile> ramblingpirate, syas "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[18:32] <arooni-mobile> "
[18:32] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni: after you purge, restart and then do 'sudo apt-get install fglrx'...see if that does anything.
[18:33] <ramblingpirate> arooni-mobile, do 'ifconfig'
[18:33] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: reboot, or just logout, and then log back in ?
[18:33] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate, no matter what i try, i cannot make more than 1 partition on this HDD.  if I put swap first, then try to make a primary it still complains.  Is it possible the HDD is not completely "blank"?
[18:33] <Aaruni> partitionhelp: you can try creating a new partition table
[18:34] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, anytime you do graphics drivers, you have to reboot.
[18:34] <partitionhelp> Aaruni, i dont follow.
[18:34] <anew> Unable to locate mail  Cannot open mail:25 i get this error when i try to send mail, what should i do ?
[18:34] <Aaruni> partitionhelp: in device menu there should be "create new partition table"
[18:34] <ramblingpirate> partitionhelp, up at the top, click on device
[18:34] <Aaruni> maybe it will help
[18:35] <sharif> anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 blutooth problem
[18:35] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni has it right on the head.
[18:35] <partitionhelp> Aaruni & ramblingpirate what type should I choose?
[18:35] <Aaruni> partitionhelp: ms-dos works
[18:35] <Aaruni> i think
[18:35] <Aaruni> i use msdos
[18:35] <partitionhelp> haha ok. done
[18:35] <ramblingpirate> I don't remember all the options...but yeah, msdos
[18:35] <anew> anyone ?
[18:35] <partitionhelp> ramblingpirate & Aaruni: so now I can make two parts(1 ext4 and 1 swap)?
[18:35] <voldyman> dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-kernel-source output => http://pastie.org/7801121
[18:36] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: should I remove the driver I manually installed using ./amd* -uninstall ?
[18:36] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: ok. I have the same problem... Boot the computer normally until you get that blinking cursor. Then hit ctrl+alt+F1 Do you get a console?
[18:36] <Aaruni> partitionhelp: you should be able to make up to 4 primary partitions
[18:36] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, yes, and then you do have to do a complete reboot.
[18:36] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: ok, doing that, will then reboot
[18:36] <brian____> Ok, well, now to remove the watermark... '[  1783.132] (II) fglrx(0): Adapter AMD Radeon HD 6450 has 3 configurable heads and 2 displays connected.'
[18:36] <anew> Unable to locate mail  Cannot open mail:25 i get this error when i try to send mail, what should i do ?
[18:37] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Unfortunately not
[18:37] <Sagitt> hi all, i've an asus eeepc 1001px with ubuntu 13.04, i tapeed disable touchpad button (fn + f3) how i can re-enable it? if i press again fn + f3 it stay disabled
[18:37] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, cool. We should be good to reinstall and amdconfig --initial after that.
[18:37] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: it is aticonfig in my case
[18:37] <partitionhelp> Aaruni, that seems to have done the trick.... any idea why my HDD(out of the package) was so grouchy?
[18:37] <Aaruni> partitionhelp: maybe it used another partition table, or there were hidden partitions on it.
[18:38] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: I got the solution. reboot in revcovery mode again and do the following command first in the 'root shell': mount -o remount,rw /
[18:38] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: 'mount -o remount,rw /'
[18:38] <ramblingpirate> partitionhelp, uh, yeah, it's because the MFG's ship with a hidden recovery partition on it.
[18:38] <partitionhelp> Aaruni & ramblingpirate: alright.. thanks for your help. :)
[18:38] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - I do now, it says ubuntu login:
[18:38] <Aaruni> anytime, partitionhelp :)
[18:38] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: That's ok, then.
[18:38] <ramblingpirate> part of the reason you never actually get a full TB.
[18:38] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: You should be able to login with the user you created.
[18:39] <voldyman> guys anyone? wl not found?
[18:39] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: ok, going for a reboot now. be back
[18:39] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec so su? what's the password? is it what i set during install?
[18:39] <ramblingpirate> arooni-mobile, did you ever do 'ifconfig'? if so, what were the devices it listed?
[18:39] <makara> unity scrollbar is soooooo irritating
[18:40] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: use the name and password of the user you created during install.
[18:40] <makara> just to save like 5 pixels
[18:40] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Done, how do i get to root?
[18:40] <makara> is there no way to set it to the classic, like in firefox?
[18:41] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: NOw we create the Xorg.conf.new file... 'sudo Xorg -configure' (again use 'your password')
[18:41] <ramblingpirate> makara, do 'gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars false'
[18:41] <voldyman> why doesn't wl compile for kernel 3.8??
[18:41] <voldyman> is there any alternative for wl module?
[18:42] <hazmat> anyone know if there's a way to do a unity indicator with pyqt?
[18:42] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - get a fatal error, server is already active for display 0
[18:43] <ramblingpirate> hazmat, I'm not sure about pyqt, but I know python has pynotifyOSD
[18:43] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Oh.. Yes... ;)
[18:43] <ramblingpirate> do a google search for it...it's pretty easy to set up.
[18:43] <doomlord> before i start messing with installs, does anyone know if the NVidia GT640 works wih ubuntu 13.04 (have any drivers been updated etc..) - up til now my spare machine with this card (ubuntu 12.10) ran in classic gnome fallback. GL applications ran fine, but compositing window managers including unity didn't recognize it
[18:43] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[18:43] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: We have to run the buggy xserver.
[18:43] <hazmat> ramblingpirate, thanks.. but i'm definitely looking for more a unity indicator than just osd message
[18:43] <wushu> hey can someone tell me if it is normal that top shows two instances of sshd running for root? i am logging via ssh with another user. kinda new to ubuntu servers so would be nice with some advice :)
[18:44] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: stop not run....
[18:44] <ramblingpirate> hazmat, not sure what to tell you then...I use the GNOME remix.
[18:45] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec I got a fatal server error: caught signal 11
[18:45] <michealPW> It's really weird that Ubuntu would use policykit to disable Hibernation outright. Laptops cannot really function with any practicality without Hibernation...
[18:45] <makara> ramblingpirate, I logged out and back in. No difference ??
[18:45] <Linus123> hello unetbootin wont start here in 13.04...
[18:45] <michealPW> What is a laptop supposed to do when battery is critically low? Force a quit out of every process and shutdown? LMAO!? During a college presentation that would be *epic*
[18:46] <michealPW> As a geek, yes I know it's easy to test and then enable. But that's me, I'm a geek... The average user, though? Hardly..
[18:46] <michealPW> They'll just freak out and stop using Ubuntu wouldnt' you agree?
[18:46] <ramblingpirate> hazmat, you could always stop by reddit.com/r/python
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, I use a laptop and never hibernate, it s a personal choice, yhou are looking at it from your point of view.
[18:46] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Can you create the Xorg.conf.new file now. I don't care if there's an error, as long as the xserver is down...
[18:46] <Sagitt> how i can re-enable touchpad in ubuntu 13.04?
[18:46] <ramblingpirate> makara, weird...that should have done it.
[18:46] <hazmat> ramblingpirate, found something that looks like it works for gnome-shell and unity.. just have to find the magic bits in the code.. https://github.com/nvbn/everpad
[18:46] <Linus123> UNETBOOTIN WONT START HERE IN UBUNTU!!!
[18:47] <Linus123> 13.04
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !caps | Linus123
[18:47] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - yes, done
[18:47] <ramblingpirate> makara, are you running 12.04/12.10/13.04?
[18:47] <trism> makara: the key has changed in 12.10+: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal;
[18:47] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: mmm, true. I suppose that is a pretty subjective view. But really, without Hibernate using a mobile is clumsy... What do you do, personally? Do you just set your low battery warning threshold much higher to give yourself time to close out and shutdown?
[18:47] <makara> 13.04
[18:47] <zerowaitstate> michaelPW, I think most people who freak out about testing and enabling will get Linux preinstalled on their laptop if they use Linux at all
[18:47] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - should i edit with driver=fb?
[18:47] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: ok. Now you can do 'sudo nano Xorg.conf.new' and try to edit it... exactly
[18:47] <Linus123> can anyone answer me please?
[18:48] <michealPW> zerowaitstate: Hah, I wish. Where would they buy these pre-installed linux systems?! All I can find is Windows 8 systems :O
[18:48] <michealPW> zerowaitstate: I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate here, by the way ;)
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, I don't transport the laptop I have a nexus 7 and a smartphone.
[18:48] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Done that
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> to carry stuff if needed
[18:48] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: 'save' command in nano is ctrl+x -> y
[18:48] <BluesKaj> michealPW, check out system 76
[18:48] <ramblingpirate> hazmat, good to know, thanks. Were you talking about the notifications or the OSD?
[18:48] <makara> trism, ramblingpirate, confirmed
[18:48] <zerowaitstate> I think HP sells em
[18:48] <makara> thank you
[18:48] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: Ah, I see. I'm a college student, studying Computer Programming/System Analysis. It's frequent that I'm stuck without the ability to charge
[18:49] <makara> relief!!
[18:49] <michealPW> And have 50 - 60 process' running that really would not be ideal if they had to stop and shutdown...
[18:49] <ramblingpirate> makara, 'trism'?
[18:49] <michealPW> Hibernate is almost essential
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, Student as well, just not a cs major
[18:49] <michealPW> Good move with the Nexus. I'm jealous hehe :P
[18:49] <michealPW> I need a smartphone, gah
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, enable hibernate then.
[18:49] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Hey, I'm learning "stuff" lol. I edited it first without sudo but went back in with sudo and checked it and still says driver=fb. Saved again. Now do I move it?
[18:49] <makara> ramblingpirate, see what he said
[18:50] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: Way ahead of you matey! Tested it out and then enabled it. Was just wondering about the lesser users, you know? :P
[18:50] <michealPW> I like that Ubuntu is for average users.
[18:50] <ramblingpirate> makara, ah, gotcha. I wasn't sure which one you were using.
[18:50] <chrisinleedsuk> What does framebuffer mean anyway?
[18:50] <zerowaitstate> michaelPW, it's a point worth making.  I see Linux desktops in the future business world if msft doesn't get their act together
[18:50] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: What was it saying before you changed it to 'fb'?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> michealPW,  https://www.system76.com/
[18:51] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Was completely empty
[18:51] <hazmat> ramblingpirate, its more of a systray menu.. in unity,their called indicators
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, I suppose so, it depends are personal motivation though, and if someone wants to figure it out.
[18:51] <ramblingpirate> zerowaitstate, that would be a dream.
[18:51] <michealPW> chrisinleedsuk: It's part of video cards, at a very low-level. It's how traditional graphics rendering would happen. Programs would send data to the framebuffer, which is as literally as it's name suggest, the buffer just before display output.
[18:51] <ramblingpirate> hazmat, that would be where I was confused. What's the project you've got going on?
[18:51] <michealPW> chrisinleedsuk: Generally, you don't want to use framebuffer devices directly ;)
[18:51] <michealPW> If you're down that road, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere (giggle)
[18:51] <zerowaitstate> with a lot of line of business apps moving to cloud hosting, the actual platform you run the client from is becoming less relevant
[18:52] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - so what now? mv this new file to where the original file is?
[18:52] <hazmat> ramblingpirate, just something to show me how much i'm spending in various cloud providers, so i don't leave around a bunch of machines accidentally on.
[18:52] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: True. Hibernation is always touch-and-go. Even Windows 7 struggles to resume from Hibernation at times..
[18:52]  * BluesKaj shrugs , lead a horse to water and all that
[18:52] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: Let's try to copy that file, even though I am sceptical regarding the results.
[18:52] <michealPW> So I can see why the decision would have been made to outright disable it... But wouldn't a blacklist be a much more elegant solution, I wonder? Or maybe even a whitelist, if things are *that* bad
[18:53] <zerowaitstate> michaelPW, another problem is that stuff like IPMI tends to be buggy as hell at the firmware level
[18:53] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec to the location you said before?
[18:53] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: 'sudo cp Xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[18:54] <Linus123> i will install kubuntu beside ubuntu but unetbootin wont start for me just for me or for everyone?
[18:54] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - yeah done that, reboot to test or is there some tweaking yet?
[18:54] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf Do you see the xorg.conf file?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> Linus123, You can have both desktops in one install.
[18:54] <ramblingpirate> hazmat, that's why I love python.
[18:54] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: or just ls /etc/X11
[18:55] <michealPW> Linus123: Are you trying to install Unetbootin just to create a USB boot-disk ?
[18:55] <Linus123> yes
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Linus123, wont start is not a good description, way to vague.,
[18:55] <michealPW> Linus123: Well, could I suggest the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator?
[18:55] <brian____> Little update to my ATI issue.  I just needed to install fglrx-updates from the repo and then aticonfig --intitial worked, and the unsupported watermark went away
[18:55] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Think it's there in that it's name is written in white
[18:55] <michealPW> Linus123: Tap your Windows key and type Startup Disk. Your Dash should find it (y)
[18:55] <Linus123> unetbootin wont start
[18:55] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: ok. 'sudo reboot' ... ;)
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !details > Linus123
[18:56] <michealPW> Sorry 'bout the (y). haha my skype habbits die hard
[18:56] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec The moment of truth...
[18:56] <meet> I am using ubuntu gnome 13.04. I upgraded the gnome 3.6 to 3.8. But many of the features i listed on the gnome site are missing. for example search settings or clock or even classic mode. How do I get those?
[18:56] <Linus123> ubuntu 13.04 amd64 wont start after enter the password
[18:56] <michealPW> brian____: That watermark is for AMD Beta drivers..
[18:56] <Linus123> sorry
[18:57] <Linus123> unetbootin wont start here in ubuntu 13.04 amd 64 after enter the password
[18:57] <ramblingpirate> minimec, I'm pretty sure I sent aarui to die in the wastes of no X. :\ probably didn't apt-get --purge
[18:57] <michealPW> Linus123: Did you read what I suggested? I don't think you did.
[18:57] <Tronic> Why aren't there software upgrades for 13.04 yet? Is that some kind of freeze?
[18:57] <jackw411> hey guys, im using awesome windows manager: been configuring it: and for some reason nightly always opens fullscreen and ignores the layout - it also has some weird white little cloud icon next to it in the tabs at the top: whatdo?
[18:57] <brian____> michealPW, I installed fglrx from the repo, not specifying beta
[18:58] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Hmmm, we're just stoped on the lubuntu splash screen. no flashing though
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Linus123, You can install the kubuntu desktop in ubuntu and choose it from the login
[18:58] <Tronic> One would think that there'd be at least some bugs to fix after the release.
[18:58] <michealPW> brian____: Oh, that's weird. Maybe one of the repos has the beta in it, I'm sure? It's not a big issue. The watermark is just to show it's a beta/testing release. There's a file in /var/, I can't remember the path.
[18:58] <jackw411> nevermind - answered my own question
[18:59] <michealPW> If you delete it, the watermark goes away. Or maybe you have to *create* a file there? I can't remember. I had to do that on Gentoo all the time, 'cause the best performance I could get was their beta
[18:59] <dsolsman> Hello, is there anyone out there willing to be patient and help me install my audio interface?
[18:59] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: I was somehow expecting that... can you switch to the console again with ctrl+alt+F1?
[18:59] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - have powered down and rebooted to try again
[18:59] <ramblingpirate> michealPW, you have change it from UNSIGNED to some long string of ridiculousness.
[18:59] <brian____> michealPW, ya, well, the more alarming response was to the amdconfig --initial, it told me I didnt have any supported devices
[19:00] <michealPW> ramblingpirate: Jah! That sounds more accurate hehe
[19:00] <minimec> ramblingpirate: I don't understand. Did we chat before. I don't remember that nick.
[19:00] <michealPW> brian____: That's weird. It's amdconfig, btw. Maybe they symlink for historical purposes? hehe
[19:00] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Frozen on splash screen, shouldn't the 5 dots under lubuntu be flashing alternately?
[19:00] <michealPW> I don't remember seeing that one before..
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> Linus123, And when this website gets the 13.04 desktop lists posted remove full desktops and default to the one you want. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[19:00] <ramblingpirate> minimec, no, I was helping him with a graphics issue as well...he hasn't come back.
[19:01] <michealPW> What does lspci report, brian____ ?
[19:01] <minimec> ramblingpirate: Oh... I see...
[19:01] <urgodfather> does anyone have experience with compiling kernels?
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > urgodfather
[19:01] <dsolsman> Can anyone help me install my audio interface? It's a tascam us-144. I need help making its usb port be seen as a usb 1 device and install a module to run in asla.
[19:01] <michealPW> urgodfather: As far as I understand, with packaged-based distros like Ubuntu you should avoid compiling a custom kernel.
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> lolµ
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> dsolsman, THe channel works with you outlining your problem.
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> ;j
[19:02] <zerowaitstate> i'm going to go buy me an HP moonshot
[19:02] <urgodfather> michealPW: its not for my ubuntu box
[19:02] <michealPW> Generally speaking, if you find yourself thinking you need to compile a custom kernel on a packaged-base distribution of Linux, you most likely took a wrong turn somewhere.
[19:03] <michealPW> urgodfather: Ah. Well generally speaking, you download the kernel source... cd into it's directory and run menuconfig
[19:03] <dsolsman> @wilee-nilee can you be more specific?
[19:03] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: They should.... What we have now is a 'working environment' to configure your GPU. You see there are some 'options' you can choose for the 'fb' driver. All you can do now is to look for some tweaks on the internet and add (change) them with 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' in that new Xserver conf file.
[19:03] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: almost ended up breaking my system
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> !details } dsolsman
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> !details | dsolsman
[19:03] <michealPW> That's ./configure, only in a nice menu-format. In there, you select the appropriate kernel modules you need for your machine and then proceed to compile it with the make command, then make install.
[19:03] <urgodfather> michealPW: i have an android device that doesnt have any source avail. i know it has deice drivers that i would need to port over... the quesiton is how
[19:03] <michealPW> Wait, do you make install the kernel? Double-check the readme :P
[19:03] <ramblingpirate> ah! Aaruni, you survive! Sorry, I'm thinking something went terribly wrong when you rebooted
[19:04] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: I don't know these options, but the homepage I gave you before will probably mention them.
[19:04] <michealPW> urgodfather: Oh jeez, Android.. Well that's way out of my element, I'm afraid.
[19:04] <Aaruni> it didn't uninstall properly, and then the graphics boot was totally disabled
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, You are on the wrong channel for that.
[19:04] <Aaruni> so, I had to uninstall -force , and then, it let me back into graphics install. currently running on default video drivers, ramblingpirate
[19:04] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec So  'mount -o remount,rw /' to get write access, stop service lightdm and try configure?
[19:05] <urgodfather> michealPW and wilee-nilee im aware of that... but you guys could help with general knowlege
[19:05] <Aaruni> *boot, not install
[19:05] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, when I didn't see you after 5 minutes I figured that happened. Ok, so two routes we can go
[19:05] <ramblingpirate> just the default fglrx from ubuntu
[19:05] <michealPW> urgodfather: So let me just give you a vague overview... Android is Linux, yes. However, "Linux" is a kernel. Kernel's are libraries that act as an abstraction layer for your hardware. Since Android is for certain phones, trying to compile a generic linux kernel for an Android device is way outside this realm.
[19:05] <ramblingpirate> or the proprietary drivers from AMD
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, Problem is this is ubuntu support, you might try #andoid-root
[19:05] <chrisinleedsuk> minimec - Have to shoot off now, wifey will be feeling neglected but thanks for your help so far, much appreciated.
[19:06] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I think installing usin ./amd* was a mistake. I didn't know there was a sudo apt-get install flgrx back when I did that
[19:06] <ramblingpirate> I usually stick to the open source ones from ubuntu...they've gotten disturbingly better than the proprietary in most cases.
[19:06] <Aaruni> tryint that now
[19:06] <Aaruni> wait.. so, stick to open source drivers, you say ?
[19:06] <urgodfather> michealPW: not a phone... its based off of the i.mx53
[19:06] <michealPW> I don't know what that is, LOL.
[19:06] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, just keep doing what you're doing.
[19:06] <Aaruni> ok.
[19:06] <urgodfather> freescale board
[19:07] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: You only need the 'remount command', when booting in recovery mode. Otherwise, just switch to the console (ctrl+alt+F1), stop the xserver 'sudo service lightdm stop', edit the file 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf', then try to start the xserver again... 'sudo service lightdm start'.
[19:07] <moppers> android pc or one of those micro pi-type things?
[19:07] <Tronic> Why aren't there software updates for 13.04 yet? Is that some kind of freeze?
[19:07] <michealPW> Do you know what I meant, though? You'll be better off trying to search google for the particular make/model of whatever device you're trying to get Linux on and + linux: "i.mx53 + linux" to find a community that's doing exactly that.
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> Tronic, When did you install? have you run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:08] <Bray90820> does anyone know how to properly install skype on 13,04
[19:08] <michealPW> Anyone here that has compiled kernels, most likely compiled the kernels on a IBM-compatible PC (giggle)
[19:08] <brian____> michealPW, it reports fine - 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Caicos [Radeon HD 6450] -- Like I said though, after installing fglrx-updates, *amdconfig worked and the watermark was removed
[19:08] <minimec> chrisinleedsuk: I see. Was a pleasure chatting with you, as I see you can 'follow' advises.
[19:08] <Tronic> wilee-nilee: Upgraded during beta, dist-upgrade is not installing anything.
[19:08] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Permission denied.
[19:08] <moppers> urgodfather, you will need a specialised channel for that; we aren't saying we hate you, just that what you are asking is not general knowledge for this channel
[19:09] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, remember to 'sudo' before that.
[19:09] <michealPW> brian____: Interesting. Someone you wound up with a very old, beta-release of fglrx? That's the only logic I can find in that error...
[19:09] <Bray90820> Every time i try to install skype it crashes when i launch it
[19:09] <Aaruni> ok
[19:09] <Tronic> wilee-nilee: Apparently quite many other users are seeing that same thing (no updates except for one security patch), so I believe it's not just my system.
[19:09] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: reboot now ?
[19:09] <ramblingpirate> yeah. it ----should----- be good to go now.
[19:09] <michealPW> brian____: I'm only guessing, though. Weird stuff!
[19:09] <moppers> Tronic, check on canoncial's ubuntu update pages, there's a list of every patch pushed
[19:09] <urgodfather> moppers: sure it is... i havent even gotten to my primary question... instead.. ive been shunned away
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Tronic, Hard to tell what is going on can you give details like last upgrades that did show, and maybe a pastebin of your sources.list, the description is to vague.
[19:09] <moppers> urgodfather, what is the question btw?
[19:10] <Tronic> moppers: Got a link?
[19:10] <michealPW> urgodfather: I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention. Was just trying to explain why you aren't getting any help here... :\
[19:10] <moppers> Tronic, ubuntuupdates :)
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Tronic, The upgrades are slow on a new release in general at the beginning, I suspect you are just fine, just not familiar.
[19:11] <urgodfather> moppers: can i decompile this kernel, upgrade it with new source, and then recompile.. keeping all the same hardware drivers, libs, and bins? or will i need to make a new one all from scratch?
[19:12] <zerowaitstate> decompile?
[19:12] <moppers> decompile? Ooo ... ;-)
[19:12] <michealPW> Well, I don't believe so no. It's likely, to save space, that device only have the kernel in binary form..
[19:12] <Bray90820> does anyone know how to properly install skype on 13,04
[19:12] <Bray90820> Every time i try to install skype it crashes when i launch it
[19:12] <michealPW> No source and no config file that was used to compile it. The config file is where all the chosen modules will be.
[19:12] <dsolsman> whats the command for installing a .deb file which is in the current directory im at in the terminal
[19:12] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I booted back in, alright
[19:12] <moppers> urgodfather, no but you can extract the config from the kernel, and MAYBE it will build with the same config on the new board
[19:12] <michealPW> So, whatever modules were included in that kernel to get it to work with the device it's on, will be lost when you go to compile a fresh copy. But really, all of this is just a wild guess on my part..
[19:12] <Aaruni> but it still shows VESA:PARK in the graphics driver
[19:13] <ramblingpirate> are you using unity?
[19:13] <Aaruni> yeah
[19:13] <michealPW> That's why I gave you the big spheel about you being in the wrong spot. It' snot 'cause I'm trying to be a bully, I'm actually looking out for you. Things we say could be completely wrong and could lead you down the wrong path, making things much harder for you.
[19:13] <urgodfather> moppers... see... im getting somewhere. general knowlege
[19:13] <ramblingpirate> did it make you log in to the fallback session?
[19:13] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: fallback session ?
[19:14] <moppers> urgodfather, you need to find a good guide on building the kernel; that will explain how to extract the config. as to how to build it on android hardware, i have no idea
[19:14] <urgodfather> michealPW: what am i gonna do... get mad and de-friend you on fb? lol j/k
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Bray90820, Run in the terminal skype and look for errors
[19:14] <ramblingpirate> log out real quick, click on your username once, and it should have a menu to pick your "login session"
[19:14] <michealPW> urgodfather: haha, touche :P
[19:14] <ramblingpirate> take a look at those then come back.
[19:14] <moppers> urgodfather, i dont even know if exracting the config will help  you as it might need to be setup differently
[19:14] <Aaruni> ok, one minute
[19:14] <urgodfather> moppers.. got several handy.. didn't know i could extract the config file
[19:15] <moppers> urgodfather, it's probably saved in /boot
[19:15] <dsolsman> i got this error message while trying to install a .deb. Will you help me figure out what to do? You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version
[19:15] <urgodfather> moppers: what if there are proprietary modules used... could i salvage them?
[19:15] <dsolsman>  │ 2.6.25.4-us122l) This will not work unless you have configured your boot
[19:15] <dsolsman>  │ loader to use initrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to
[19:15] <dsolsman>  │ use an INITial Ram Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and
[19:15] <dsolsman>  │ use that for booting).
[19:15] <FloodBot1> dsolsman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <dsolsman>  │
[19:15] <moppers> urgodfather, assuming it's linux: /boot will have a config-xxxx file
[19:16] <moppers> urgodfather, modules will be in /lib/modules/kernelversion folder but no idea if they are binary compatible on the new hardware
[19:16] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: I get two options : ubuntu, and ubuntu - 2d
[19:17] <ramblingpirate> ok, ubuntu 2D means you don't have HW acceleration, but you were able to login using the first one?
[19:17] <Aaruni> yeah
[19:17] <Aaruni> I am logged in now using ubuntu
[19:17] <ramblingpirate> as far as I can tell, PARKS is just the codename they used when developing that particular card.
[19:17] <urgodfather> moppers: it's definitely linux.. chinese product. see http://www.ebay.com/itm/Android-Car-DVD-2-Din-6-2-3G-GPS-WiFi-Bluetooth-PC-1GHz-3D-CPU-System-/221204777740?pt=US_Video_In_Dash_Units_w_GPS&hash=item3380d50b0c
[19:18] <dsolsman> I got this error while installing a .deb file. What should I do?: You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version 2.6.25.4-us122l) This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use initrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to use an INITial Ram Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and use that for booting).As a reminder, in order to configure LILO, you need to add an 'initr
[19:18] <dsolsman> d=/initrd.img' to the image=/vmlinuz stanza of your /etc/lilo.conf
[19:18] <Aaruni> so, what seems to be the problem here, ramblingpirate ?
[19:18] <urgodfather> moppers: damn chinese want to make cheep as possible. linux=free
[19:18] <ramblingpirate> open up a terminal and do 'fglrxgears'
[19:18] <Aaruni> k
[19:18] <ramblingpirate> that might not be the actual command...I don't remember.
[19:18] <ramblingpirate> or just open up your dash and type in amd
[19:18] <moppers> urgodfather, no, it's android not linux .. ;) but as i said, you know now how to extract the kernel config and wher ethe proprety modules are, but that's all i can tell you
[19:19] <anew> where are my php error logs in ubuntu? there are nowhere to be found
[19:19] <Roxanne``> Hey..
[19:19] <malimbar> agh, I have no idea why, but propriety drivers are no longer installing (they used to work fine). Here is the last block on /var/log/jockey.log if anyone can help me out. http://pastebin.com/kpAdYa7Y
[19:19] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: fgl_glxgears
[19:19] <ramblingpirate> yeah. did it pop up?
[19:19] <Aaruni> I get a really nice looking cube, with rotating gears on its faces
[19:20] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, did you update recently?
[19:20] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, congrats, you have the drivers installed!
[19:20] <Tronic> moppers: Updates that are visible on that site do not seem to appear on my system. Tried different mirrors and apt-get update in between.
[19:20] <Roxanne``> I did not know that I installed Ubuntu Netbook edition on this machine? I could of sworn when I downloaded ubuntu 13.04 in regular that I was just downloading that? How in the hell did I suddenly just get Ubuntu Netbook from a regular install??
[19:20] <vic> wifi slow than when using windows
[19:20] <moppers> Roxanne``, how do you know its netbook edition?
[19:20] <ramblingpirate> you can tweak settings with amdcccle
[19:20] <michealPW> 5444 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1088.800 FPS
[19:20] <michealPW> hehe
[19:21] <moppers> *it's
[19:21] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: sort've. I've recently done a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 (overwriting 13.04 which I had tons of problems with), and I've just been updating and installing my old software on
[19:21] <Bray90820> wilee-nilee: i typed the word skype in the terminal and it gave me this output
[19:21] <Roxanne``> moppers: I was trying to install something by the name of "Macbuntu" and suddenly it tells me that I have Netbook Edition installed.
[19:21] <Bray90820> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[19:21] <urgodfather> moppers: thanks for the help
[19:21] <minimec> ramblingpirate: I see, that it was worth the fight... ;)
[19:21] <michealPW> So many sefgaults from Skype :\
[19:22] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, go through the log and see if it updated the kernel at all....if so, you have to reinstall the driver.
[19:22] <michealPW> Skype has gone nowhere good since MS bought it :(
[19:22] <thurstylark> I'm having a hard time mounting an ntfs partition. The disk comes up in disk utility as hpfs/ntfs (0x07), but gives me no options to mount. It is connected through USB on 12.04
[19:22] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: I did figure it was a problem with the 3.8.x kernel, so I deleted that and am now running on 3.2.x (x is whatever the last numbers are)
[19:22] <moppers> Roxanne``, i think that's an issue with macbuntu, there is no longer a netbook edition for 13.04 or perhaps you downloaded the wrong iso
[19:23] <Roxanne``> How so? I downloaded it directly from the site itself.
[19:23] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: and that's what I was trying to do - install the driver using the "additional drivers" app
[19:23] <Helinai> Hi, is there anybody who can help me? I have a huge problem with ubuntu 13.04
[19:23] <ramblingpirate> minimec, yeah, we got it working. Woo!
[19:23] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, what is it saying?
[19:24] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: but it just says "failed, check /var/log/jockey.log"
[19:24] <Roxanne``> moppers: How so? I downloaded it directly fro the site itself.. And not only that what other versions are there on that site besides 12 and 13 in 32 and 64 bit versions.
[19:24] <vic> why is wifi too slow in ubuntu 13.04?
[19:24] <Roxanne``> from*
[19:24] <ramblingpirate> paste the contents of 'cat /var/log/jockey.log'
[19:24] <th0r> Roxanne``: I'm not sure macbuntu will work with unity
[19:24] <Helinai> I use it at work and during the 13.04 version update my coworker shut down the computer and now i turn it on but i cant do anything
[19:24] <Aaruni|OSX> ramblingpirate: I suffered ACPI shutdown
[19:25] <Helinai> wifi dont work, usb neither and the sam goes for the cd
[19:25] <Roxanne``> th0r: Is there a way to take Unity off?
[19:25] <Tronic> moppers, wilee-nilee: http://nopaste.info/deed802bbd.html
[19:25] <Aaruni|OSX> me laptop overheats quite a bit
[19:25] <Bray90820> wilee-nilee: i also typed in sudo skype and it basically is telling me skype isn't installed
[19:25] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: you want the whole thing?
[19:25] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: What CPU and GPU are you using?
[19:25] <th0r> Roxanne``: I have no experience with unity, only know it is default in 13.
[19:25] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, mostly i just want to know if it's complaining about linux kernel headers
[19:25] <thurstylark> I'm having a hard time mounting an ntfs partition. The disk comes up in disk utility as hpfs/ntfs (0x07), but gives me no options to mount. It is connected through USB on 12.04
[19:25] <Aaruni|OSX> michealPW: intel core i3, ATI mobility Radeon HD 5470
[19:26] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: Are you running the open source Gallium drivers for the Radeon card?
[19:26] <moppers> Roxanne``, type lsb_release into terminal
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Bray90820, I see install methods on the web for skype and 13.04, personally when I have used it I use windows, so any real help here on ubuntu.
[19:26] <moppers> Roxanne``, sorry: lsb-release -a
[19:26] <Aaruni|OSX> michealPW: it used to gallium 0.4 or something like that, then I decided to install fglrx, now it shows VESA:PARK
[19:27] <Aaruni|OSX> ramblingpirate: BTW, for that gears thing, I got 1000+ FPS
[19:27] <Aaruni|OSX> (and that probably caused the ACPI shutdown)
[19:27] <rhg135> server dev.dtalley11.com +6668 rhg135/freenode:h67n96
[19:27] <rhg135> oops
[19:27] <Helinai> is there anybody who can help me?
[19:27] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: Open up your Catalyst Control Center
[19:28] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni|OSX, gotcha. I'm not sure about the ACPI shutdown...I've never experienced that.
[19:28] <chutney> there are 1749 people who might be able to
[19:28] <michealPW> Under Power, what options do you have?
[19:28] <Aaruni|OSX> michealPW, ramblingpirate : that laptop is shutdown now. it experienced overheat, and ACPI powered it off. currently I am on my macbook
[19:28] <Roxanne``> moppers: Not working. Command not found.
[19:28] <michealPW> Oh, wow. Hrmm
[19:29] <ramblingpirate> that's just what I said.
[19:29] <moppers> Roxanne``, my apologies: lsb_release -a
[19:29] <michealPW> That's not good..
[19:29] <michealPW> *thinks*
[19:29] <moppers> Roxanne``, first one is an undersfore, second is a minus
[19:29] <michealPW> How old is the laptop, Aaruni|OSX ?
[19:29] <Aaruni|OSX> 3 years, I think
[19:29] <ramblingpirate> that's going to be a hw issue if it's overheating that quickly...unless it's getting more juice than it's supposed to. MFG power brick?
[19:29] <Bray90820_> test?
[19:29] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: Have you opened it up and cleaned all the dust off it's fans and heatsinks?
[19:29] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: Lately, I meant to include ^
[19:30] <Aaruni|OSX> yeah,
[19:30] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: the whole thing is too large for pastebin. I do see a lot of <jockey.detection.LocalKernelModulesDriverDB at (blah blah)> and a bunch of DEBUG: searching for handler for driver id type: 'kernal_module',  etc.
[19:30] <Helinai> I had trouble with the installation of the 13.04 version, and now i cant do anything... i think drivers are gone and i cant connect to internet :S
[19:30] <Aaruni|OSX> a few days back
[19:30] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: oh, interesting. So is this a new issue under linux, or has it always been running hot like this?
[19:30] <Aaruni|OSX> no, it is my lappy problem
[19:30] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, try 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[19:31] <Aaruni|OSX> linux runs abuout 10 C cooler than windows in dual boot
[19:31] <Roxanne``> moppers: Yeah, I have the regular version from what I see.
[19:31] <michealPW> Aaruni|OSX: Ah, okay so that's interesting. Can you go into your BIOS and change any frequencies or voltages?
[19:32] <Aaruni|OSX> michealPW: no, its all greyed out
[19:32] <michealPW> Hrmm
[19:32] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: "linux-headers-3.2.0-41-generic is already the newest version"
[19:32] <moppers> Roxanne``, you can get rid of unity by using a diferent desktop e.g. "xubuntu" BUT i dont know if that's why macbuntu isn't working: should ask their support
[19:32] <michealPW> Using AMD's Catalyst Control Center, you can cut power to the GPU...
[19:32] <michealPW> That will dramatically decrease the heat.
[19:32] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, hrmmm....are you using 12.10?
[19:32] <Aaruni|OSX> ok, booting into that now, michealPW
[19:32] <michealPW> Wait
[19:33] <michealPW> Let me find wher eit is first
[19:33] <michealPW> So you don't have to run the lappy long :P
[19:33] <michealPW> hehe
[19:33] <michealPW> If ACPI is shutting it down I think that means it's getting severely hot, like in the 70 - 80 degree range, close to burning out for good :|
[19:33] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: 12.04. I did have 13.10 installed, but then I went through and reinstalled 12.04, and I also manually removed 3.8.whatever earlier today
[19:33] <Roxanne``> moppers: Would I be able to put KDE over Unity? Would take it off?
[19:34] <malimbar> but the problem was there with that kernel too
[19:34] <Roxanne``> moppers: Would I be able to put KDE over Unity? Would that take it off?
[19:34] <Aaruni|OSX> michealPW: ACPI shuts down when GPU > 87, and CPU > 90
[19:34] <moppers> Roxanne``, Unknown, never touched kde before
[19:34] <michealPW> oh my goodness
[19:34] <Aaruni|OSX> also, I can't find the powe cut option in Catalyst
[19:34] <michealPW> That's incredibly hot, LMAO!
[19:34] <Helinai> Guys please help me! I need it for work and right know im in a really baaaaad position...
[19:35] <michealPW> Under PowerPlay or Switchable Graphics?
[19:35] <chutney> Helinai, how far does it boot?
[19:35] <michealPW> You might have to click Preferences and set the view to Advanced
[19:36] <Aaruni> ok, ramblingpirate, I am back from ubuntu
[19:36] <Helinai> chutney: i can turn it on and use it but usb dont work, wifi and any other network type neither and the same goes for cd... it awfully slow
[19:36] <Helinai> and if i open the software center or any ubuntu software it gives me errors and closes the program
[19:37] <[JethroDawnfine]> Roxanne``: can you read portuguese? >> http://www.diolinux.com.br/2013/04/omo-remover-o-unity-completamente-do-ubuntu-sem-quebrar-o-sistema.html
[19:37] <aarcane> how does one use the :i386 packages from ubuntu x64?
[19:37] <minimec> Helinai: Did you do some kernel update? Did you try to boot an older kernel?
[19:37] <Aaruni> michealPW: in powerplay, it is for higher performance, or battery life
[19:37] <Aaruni> it is set to performance when plugged in, and battery life, when not plugged in
[19:38] <Helinai> minimec : no i didnt... it told me to update to the 13.04 version and i did but my dumb coworker forcely shut down the computer while it was updating :S
[19:38] <michealPW> Set both to higher battery life. Maybe that's some weird abstraction of it, Iunno? It's unfamiliar for me. I remember more general settings in here :|
[19:38] <michealPW> To set frequency ranges.
[19:38] <michealPW> Maybe just set that and power off for now
[19:38] <michealPW> While I try to find where the setting is exactly
[19:38] <Jordan_U> Helinai: Open a terminal and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a".
[19:39] <Aaruni> its 1:08 AM here, michealPW. If i shut down now, then I'll be back only tomorrow
[19:39] <michealPW> Does your BIOS have temperature readings? Do you know if it's the CPU or the GPU that's reaching peak temperature?
[19:39] <michealPW> Or both, maybe?
[19:39] <Aaruni> its usually the CPU reaching peak
[19:39] <michealPW> LOL Aaruni. Alrighty, that's fine. Maybe we can figure it out tomorrow ;)
[19:39] <Aaruni> I did some stress testing under windows
[19:39] <Helinai> Jordan_U : just a sec because its reaaaaly slow
[19:39] <michealPW> Oh okay, interesting. So maybe we're barking up the wrong tree with the Catalyst Control.
[19:39] <minimec> Helinai: Well... you upgraded... and that broke. So you are in the middle of an update... Can you run 'sudo update-manager -d' in a console?
[19:39] <Aaruni> michealPW: http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=NWFQ
[19:40] <michealPW> I'll try and find out how to scale down that i3. Maybe disable it's integrated GPU if it has one?
[19:40] <minimec> Helinai: In a terminal, not a console ;)
[19:40] <Aaruni> no integrated GPU in that
[19:40] <Helinai> minimec: now i try... :) thanks in advance guys, just a sec and i tell you what it says ;)
[19:41] <Jordan_U> minimec: 1: update-manager doesn't need to be run as root (it will bring up its own authentication dialog using policy kit) 2: For GUI apps you should never use sudo directly, always use gksudo 3: The "-d" switch for update-manager is for enabling upgrades to *Development* releases, which is certainly not what we want here.
[19:42] <Roxanne``> [JethroDawnfine]: Yes, I can.
[19:42] <Bray90820_> Is there a faster version of the flash player the official one is making my computer incredibly show
[19:43] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, which i3 is it?
[19:43] <[JethroDawnfine]> Roxanne``: well, they're showing how to remove Unity without breaking ubuntu 12.04, and installing KDE instead...maybe that would help
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Bray90820_: No, but you can avoid using flash with things like http://youtube.com/html5 .
[19:43] <moppers> Bray90820_, google chrome has an improved flash player
[19:43] <michealPW> Aaruni: Still awake?
[19:43] <Bray90820_> i am using firefox
[19:43] <moppers> Bray90820_, adobe dropped desktop linux flash support, and google took over
[19:43] <michealPW> Oh nvm
[19:43] <Aaruni> yeah, one minute
[19:43] <Helinai> im doing the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" its taking a while
[19:43] <moppers> Bray90820_, with firefox, you dont get the proprietary improed flash player that chrome uses
[19:43] <Aaruni> michealPW, ramblingpirate : Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz × 4
[19:44] <Jordan_U> Helinai: That's expected. It will hopefully complete the upgrade.
[19:44] <minimec> Jordan_U: I agree with you, but he is exactly in a 'broken upgrade' situation. That's why I consider the '-d' option. I will rembember the 'sudo thing' ;)
[19:44] <dsolsman> is there a place i can buy linux tech support for a small problem i feel overwhelmed by?
[19:44] <Bray90820_> what about chromium
[19:44] <Aaruni> its dual core, with hyper-threading, ramblingpirate, michealPW
[19:44] <moppers> dsolsman, canonical will for ubuntu, see their website
[19:44] <moppers> Bray90820_, no chromium doesn't have it, it' [the flashplayer] is not open source
[19:44] <Jordan_U> minimec: What does allowing upgrade to a development release have to do with finishing an upgrade to a stable release?
[19:44] <chutney> dsolsman, what is the small problem?
[19:45] <Bray90820_> so the only way is to use chrome?
[19:45] <Zehle> ops
[19:45] <michealPW> Aaruni: I found a couple topics on that, setting some grub-settings to enable advanced power management for that core i3, but it was all related to the integrated HD GPU.
[19:45] <dsolsman> is there an alternative to canonical's plan?  its expensive and i just have one problem, and dont want to suscribe.
[19:45] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, try 'cpupower frequency -info'
[19:45] <michealPW> So I guess it wont affect yours.
[19:45] <chutney> dsolsman, what is the small problem?
[19:45] <Helinai> Jordan_U minimec : thanks in advance guys... ill let you know soon ;)
[19:45] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: ok, one minute
[19:45] <michealPW> I'm not sure, mate. Could it just be a poorly designed laptop? Maybe there's just not good air flow or adequate cooling? :\
[19:45] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: cpupower: command not found
[19:45] <minimec> Jordan_U: We will see. If he is prompted to upgrade to 13.10 he will hesitate I guess.
[19:46] <dsolsman> I'm trying to install an audio interface but im having problems loading the module and applying the settings for Jackd in Realtime
[19:46] <Bray90820_> is there any other browser besides  chrome that has improved flash player?
[19:46] <Aaruni> michealPW: that has to be it
[19:46] <ramblingpirate> michealPW, the only other thing I can think of is the ondemand governor isn't kicking in properly.
[19:46] <Roxanne``> [JethroDawnfine]: Thankies =3
[19:46] <minimec> Helinai: Consider 'gksudo update-manager' instead of my command.
[19:46] <moppers> dsolsman, you said 'audio interface' not soundcard and you said 'jackd' : is this a pro-audio sound card?
[19:46] <chutney> dsolsman, asking it here is free
[19:46] <michealPW> ramblingpirate: Oh right, the cpu frequency scaling that they do? Hrmm, I'm not sure how that works on linux. I thought acpi handled that? :\
[19:47] <Helinai> minimec : ok ;)
[19:47] <dsolsman> it is a tascam us-144. its an interface that operates like a sound card.
[19:47] <dsolsman> its usb
[19:47] <ramblingpirate> michealPW, as far as I know, it's handled by the kernel AFAIK.
[19:47] <moppers> ok so live monitoring of your recordings and such?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Helinai: minimec: For now, just wait for "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to finish before doing anything else.
[19:47] <Aaruni> michealPW: its done by kernel
[19:47] <dsolsman> yeah, but i just want to be able to play audio from it mostly
[19:48] <dsolsman> that way i dont have to replug everything when i dual boot to windows
[19:48] <ramblingpirate> Aaruni, if I had more time, I'd help you going through tweaking the governor but I have somewhere to be unfortunately...
[19:48] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: alright, I got the whole jockey log uploaded to my google drive. Hope it helps: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxtYyDIchB5dSF80VmVkRlRNVEE/edit?usp=sharing
[19:48] <Helinai> Jordan_U : yes :)
[19:48] <michealPW> Aaruni: This is the grub parameters that supposedly turns on advanced pm features for core i3. Again though, to warn you this was for core i3's with IGPs. Maybe it will help, though?: pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1
[19:48] <Aaruni> ramblingpirate: its ok
[19:48] <moppers> i have motu, but i had to get it setup for me, linux pro audio is hard
[19:48] <Aaruni> michealPW: its ok
[19:48] <Aaruni> not messing with that
[19:49] <michealPW> hehe yea
[19:49] <dsolsman> the thing is if i dont either find someone to show me how to automate it to work i probably wont stick with ubuntu long
[19:49] <dsolsman> there is this guide http://wiki.briata.org/doku.php
[19:49] <moppers> dsolsman, there are people who use linux for pro audio but it's not very mature on linux: your best bet is forums IMO
[19:49] <dsolsman> can you suggest a specific forum?
[19:49] <moppers> dsolsman, for example the quality of VSTs and stuff on linux is awful
[19:49] <Aaruni> maybe, the thing is as simple as an old application of thermal paste, which needs to be replaced, ramblingpirate, michealPW
[19:50] <Aaruni> anyways, good night, I can't stay up any longer
[19:50] <dsolsman> yeah, i just want to be play to play audio from it's mixer.
[19:50] <michealPW> Aaruni: True, yea.
[19:50] <michealPW> Aaruni: Good luck, mate! Maybe we'll both be on again tomorrow ;)
[19:50] <Aaruni> good night, guys
[19:51] <moppers> as much as i love ubuntu, iw ill say you're in for a really hard time
[19:51] <dsolsman> i mean, i don
[19:51] <michealPW> Yea.
[19:51] <michealPW> Pro audio on linux is horsepoop.
[19:51] <dsolsman> t plan on using it for audio recording on linux, just playing audio will suffice.
[19:52] <michealPW> All the good software is for Windows. Cakewalk Pro, SONAR etc. It's all for Windows and WINE will not run them. 'course this is all from 2007 the last time I tried to build a pro audio studio powered by Linux.
[19:52] <ramblingpirate> malimbar, it looks like it's trying to install NVIDIA drivers. do you have an nvidia or amd card?
[19:52] <michealPW> It was such a shame.. The OS itself is so ideal. The lack of software is a no-go, though :\
[19:52] <michealPW> It's the same with video editing, really.
[19:52] <malimbar> ramblingpirate: I have an nvidia card
[19:52] <dsolsman> alright thanks guys
[19:52] <michealPW> dsolsman: Wait, what?
[19:53] <ramblingpirate> you weren't trying to install fglrx were you?
[19:53] <Zehle> Hello! I'm having a problem with writing from python to a html doc. Can someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5633361/
[19:53] <contrapunctus> michealPW : Wat
[19:53] <michealPW> dsolsman: I thought you were aiming for pro audio recording? Maybe I misunderstood the question.
[19:53] <moppers> dsolsman, see pm
[19:53] <contrapunctus> <- has been using it for pro audio for quite a while, quite satisfied.
[19:53] <michealPW> contrapunctus: What are your requirements?
[19:54] <contrapunctus> michealPW - *Jack Sparrow voice* Clearly you've never used KXStudio [since last year onwards].
[19:54] <michealPW> Last time I gave it an honest attempt was 2007, with Ubuntu Studio 7.04.
[19:54] <michealPW> Oh last year? Nope, certainly have not!
[19:54] <michealPW> Hrmm
[19:54] <contrapunctus> michealPW, score writing, audio recording, MIDI production. Mostly do classical work and film scoring.
[19:55] <Zehle> Anyone here experienced on Python to HTML?
[19:55] <michealPW> Oh. Well, what seems to be the problem?
[19:56] <contrapunctus> michealPW, Laborejo is awesome, Musescore isn't bad for newbies, and KXstudio tools, qtractor, qsynth, qsampler and linuxsampler...bulletproof.
[19:56] <moppers> it does work, it's just not very mature
[19:56] <Helinai> Jordan_U minimec : its done, what do i do? restar?
[19:56] <moppers> Zehle, #python is really good at python
[19:56] <contrapunctus> Ardour3 is going pretty nice too, from what I hear. I haven't used it so far, though. Plugins are steadily developing, BitWig is coming, everyone's upbeat about Carla.
[19:56] <contrapunctus> So...I recommend you try it out again ;)
[19:56] <dsolsman> I'm trying to install the us-144 module. i have turned off usb2.0 and set it to run as a usb1.1 as the guide suggests. i just want to use the device to play audio from, not record, and not use in a DAW or other recording software.
[19:56] <minimec> Helinai: yes, to load the new kernel and modules.
[19:57] <Zehle> moppers: Sorry ;)
[19:57] <moppers> i gave up with ardour
[19:57] <moppers> how many hours of fiddign with ardour? and then i did what i wanted in about 6 clicks on mixcraft :(
[19:57] <tony> hi
[19:58] <contrapunctus> moppers: A lot of things go much faster on Linux compared to other OSes...and naturally vice versa.
[19:58] <Bray90820> so apparently the slowness wasn't just from the flash player
[19:58] <Bray90820> so apparently the slowness wasn't just from the flash player
[19:58] <Bray90820> unity is just slow all around
[19:58] <moppers> contrapunctus, linux can do pro audio , i do not doubt that . but the leatning process is hard, and the tools are trickier to use
[19:59] <contrapunctus> moppers, why not discuss this in #opensourcemusicians? I got music to make, I just happened to see this here ;)
[19:59] <michealPW> Ardour and another was like Audacity. I tried a bunch of different things back in the day. Ultimately, nothing held a candle to Cakewalk, SONAR or ProTools for the Mac.
[19:59] <moppers> contrapunctus, now if you like fidding with them, sure it will work for you: but if you want to just plugin a  guitar and go, becuae you're a musician not a geek, linux pro audio wont work for you
[19:59] <michealPW> It's pretty cool that there's KXStudio, though. Will be very interesting to poke around with that.
[19:59] <michealPW> The requirements of the guy who had me try were pretty crazy, though..
[19:59] <contrapunctus> moppers - I get tired of saying this...on the two audio distros I used (and the one that i eventually settled for), I had to setup only...once. Eveeer.
[20:00] <contrapunctus> From there on it was plug and play.
[20:00] <tony_> hay
[20:00] <michealPW> He had a full-blown recording studio in his basement. A $250,000 mixing table with 64 high-definition inputs (real-time inputs....)
[20:00] <moppers> contrapunctus, i have the time to try one this weekend, which one should i try?
[20:00] <michealPW> So, to do that, first I needed a realtime kernel. That was the first hurdle. Next, he had Cakewalk Pro Audio setup with over 150 different audio effects plugins..
[20:00] <michealPW> *nothing* could hold a candle to that... *nothing*
[20:00] <michealPW> Not back then, anyways.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[20:01] <michealPW> How is Ubuntu Studio off topic?
[20:01] <michealPW> Meh. Whatever.
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> get a room guys, lol
[20:01] <Helinai> Jordan_U minimec : Guys its working!!!! :D thank you so much!!! i owe you big time!
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> its not support is all
[20:01] <contrapunctus> Definitely UbuntuStudio 12.04 + KXStudio. You can have help setting up in #kxstudio, #opensourcemusicians, and on linuxmusicians.com.
[20:01] <snowveil> I made a launcher for the game "Don't Starve" on my launcher panel, and it launches then immediately closes.  If I double click the executable in nautilus it works fine...any ideas? (ubuntu 12.04 64 bit)
[20:02] <moppers> contrapunctus, remember if i need the help, the experiment is a failire :)
[20:02] <contrapunctus> lol
[20:02] <contrapunctus> moppers, everyone needs help setting up. I did too.
[20:02] <contrapunctus> But after that setup one doesn't need anything.
[20:02] <ramblingpirate> now kiss.
[20:03] <contrapunctus> wat
[20:03] <Bray90820> i was looking at some of my unity logs and i got this error
[20:03] <Bray90820> WARN  2013-05-04 15:01:35 unity <unknown>:0 Unable to fetch children: No such interface `org.ayatana.bamf.view' on object at path /org/ayatana/bamf/application0x8c6db0
[20:03] <michealPW> Unity trying to "fetch children"
[20:03] <michealPW> That sounds so wrong. Tsk tsk :P
[20:03] <Bray90820> :P
[20:03] <michealPW> Sorry, awefull joke. I couldn't resist :(
[20:03] <Bray90820> michealPW: do you know what i should do tho
[20:03] <malimbar> woh, they didn't say kiss with tounge
[20:04] <betrayd> snowveil: that launcher, try to run the exec part in a terminal
[20:04] <Bray90820> I actually get a bunch of errors i am going to pastebin the hole output
[20:05] <michealPW> Bray90820: In general, though.. you can ignore Warnings as long as the program functions as expected.
[20:05] <betrayd> Bray90820: only a warning though
[20:05] <michealPW> Bray90820: Is Unity functioning properly, besides that warning?
[20:05] <Bray90820> it is kinda slow
[20:05] <michealPW> So then it's functioning perfectly fine.
[20:05] <michealPW> ZING!
[20:05] <Vivekananda> hey there
[20:05] <moppers> Bray90820, linux spits out error msg and warnings like crazy, usually ignore them
[20:06] <michealPW> *ahem* sorry.
[20:06] <streulma> anyone using ubuntu on a Mac ?
[20:06] <Bray90820> moppers: i got thoes errors when i reset unity
[20:06] <moppers> streulma, i used to ,on an airbook, until the airbook broke. installation was a real pain
[20:06] <michealPW> streulma: Briefly
[20:06] <Jossse> Hello Guys. Often when I install packages, big documentation packages are installed too. Is this really necessary, can I prevent this from happening? What do you think?
[20:06] <Bray90820> and teh reason i reset it was because it was running really showly
[20:06] <Bray90820> and still is
[20:07] <michealPW> Jossse: Documentation is always good. As far as I know, you can't override this behavior since most of the time, the package depends on the documentation.
[20:07] <Bray90820> if anyone does wanna take a look here it is
[20:07] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yah31QRT
[20:07] <moppers> centos doesnt install man by default, i dont think
[20:07] <benzrf> hey! I'm using Skype in Ubuntu, does anybody here know how to enable beeping when I get messaged?
[20:07] <moppers> so you can get rid of the docs, but no real need on ubuntu.
[20:08] <moppers> at least for home user
[20:08] <streulma> moppers: /usr/share/man
[20:08] <streulma> or /usr/share/doc
[20:08] <benzrf> additionally, how can I make it so that alt-tab once always switches programs and not just the most recent window?
[20:08] <michealPW> streulma: Honestly, I gave up. Installation was a major process.. Getting the machine to boot was another process.. Getting the fans working and regulating the temperature properly was another hassle.
[20:08] <michealPW> I beat that dead horse with a stick for 4 days... Still it was nearly unusable.
[20:09] <streulma> I got it running :)
[20:09] <streulma> boot from CD
[20:09] <streulma> as Legacy mode
[20:09] <michealPW> Even with the fans running at a constant 3000 rpm it couldn't properly regulate it's temperature under any significant load.
[20:09] <Jossse> Thanks michealPW .
[20:09] <michealPW> The biggest problem was the Optimus chip and the nVidia 650m GPU.
[20:09] <Bray90820> so does anyone know why unity is honorably slow
[20:10] <moppers> streulma, i loved the airbook hardware but was too closed a platform, when it broke i was sadface until i got a chromebook. but yes ubuntu does work on macs
[20:10] <gustav> michealPW: "Was?"
[20:10] <moppers> gustav, not any more as he junked the box :)
[20:10] <michealPW> gustav: Haha, I sold the MacBook Pro and got a PC... "was" indeed :)
[20:10] <michealPW> har har har!
[20:10] <gustav> Aah. Clever.
[20:10] <michealPW> I know, right?! LOL that's the only sane approach to dealing with an Optimus chip :D
[20:10] <gustav> I could just chuck my GPU.
[20:11] <moppers> Bray90820, was it slow before or is this new?
[20:11] <streulma> I would use Ubuntu on it and don't buy a new PC
[20:11] <michealPW> Put the POS on kijiji and pray to the gods that some sucker will buy it :D
[20:11] <betrayd> Bray90820: is it always that org.something seems like a bad theme
[20:11] <moppers> if gods existed those chips wouldnt
[20:11] <michealPW> LMAO
[20:11] <streulma> it's a good one the Macbook, early 2011 macbook pro 17 inch i7 quad with 16gb of mem
[20:11] <Bray90820> it has always been slow
[20:11] <michealPW> Zing!
[20:12] <sam113101> Bray90820: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:12] <Bray90820> 13.04
[20:12] <michealPW> streulma: Pfft. Aweful! Better value in a PC.
[20:12] <moppers> Bray90820, what graphics card?
[20:12] <Bray90820> and sometime unity complacently crashes and i need to manually restart the computer
[20:12] <sam113101> unity was slow for me in 12.10, but it's fast in 13.04
[20:12] <streulma> ahhhh 13.04, some bugs not solved
[20:13] <streulma> I solved 1 bug :)
[20:13] <streulma> in the installer
[20:13] <michealPW> Bray90820: I don't think it's Unity that is slow.. But your GPU. Try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit mesa-utils && glxinfo | pastebinit
[20:13] <Bray90820> ATI Radeon 5700
[20:13] <streulma> Bray90820: http://wiki.cchtml.com
[20:14] <streulma> Bray90820: to install Catalyst 13.4
[20:15] <streulma> michaelPW: what do you mean with "better value in a PC" ?
[20:15] <Janeks> well I turned windows on after half year of using only ubuntu, and I can tell some things there should be in ubuntu needed to improve
[20:15] <streulma> that PC is better ?
[20:15] <betrayd> for less money, can be a doorstop when it's old
[20:16] <michealPW> streulma: Yes. The MacBook Pro with Retina display that I paid $2100 for absolutely PALES in comparison to this PC-based laptop built by ASUS.
[20:16] <Janeks> for example directory icons in windows shows whats inside of them (file type) etc
[20:16] <michealPW> Loaded with AMD hardware... A quad-core 64-bit Opteron processor and 2.. That's right, count them with me, TWO Radeon GPUs, one is discrete with 1GB of memory.
[20:16] <streulma> I have 1 problem with Ubuntu on Mac > install opensource graphics or ATI Catalyst ?
[20:16] <Bray90820_> unity crashed again
[20:17] <Bray90820_> what did you want me to do in the terminal again
[20:17] <michealPW> streulma: Open Source is stable... However, fglrx (ATI Catalyst) is the best power and temperature management...
[20:17] <streulma> another problem: use 12.04 or 13.04 with some bugs
[20:17] <Bray90820_> and i am using the proprietary driver otherwise my graphics card fan won't stop spinning
[20:17] <streulma> or revert to 12.10
[20:17] <michealPW> streulma: The best battery life and thermal temperatures are seen with fglrx, I find.. Although sometimes fglrx can't resume from friggin' sleeping LMAO. Open Source typically can sleep, hibernate and dim led backlights like a champ.
[20:18] <michealPW> streulma: In my honest opinion, I recommend 12.04. It's LTS and will be fully supported right into 2017. Ubuntu 13.04 is still very new and will of course have bugs. It's not LTS.
[20:19] <michealPW> However.. If 13.04 works fine for you, that's fine too..
[20:19] <michealPW> If you're having problems with 13.04 though, you might save yourself a lot of hassle and time and use 12.04.
[20:19] <tony_> how run open vpn on ubunt
[20:20] <michealPW> Oh wait.. streulma. That question was related to the macbook? In that case you dont' really have much choice haha. I couldn't even get 12.04 to boot on the macbook. I had to use the nightly build of 13.04 for the 3.8 kernel.
[20:20] <Janeks> there should be an option to switch unity sidebar to be in bottom
[20:20] <michealPW> 12.04 would kernel panic, basically no matter what I did it would not even boot the liveCD successfully (rofl)
[20:20] <theadmin> tony_: sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn{,-gnome} and you should be able to use it from the menus.
[20:22] <michealPW> Which makes sense, I mean MacBooks are pure EFI systems using GUID Partition Tables, brand new hardware and exotic hardware like the funky Optimus chip. The latest kernel and a modern UEFI/GPT-aware installer is your only hope (rofl)
[20:22] <theadmin> michealPW: Both 12.04 and 13.04 are EFI- and GPT-aware.
[20:23] <theadmin> However, macs... Eh.
[20:23] <streulma> miachelPW: no :)
[20:23] <michealPW> Macs:(
[20:23] <michealPW> I just gave up. Screw it. It's not worth the money.
[20:24] <streulma> michaelPW: boot from Live and run GParted, create a new Partition Table with MBR
[20:24] <theadmin> Getting a regular OS to run on a Mac is as much of trouble as getting OS X to work on a regular computer...
[20:24] <Bray90820_> This time i got a flash player error with chrome
[20:24] <michealPW> streulma: Yea but that's destructive haha. You'll whipe the recovery HD partition :/
[20:24] <Bray90820_> when i went full screen everything went white
[20:24] <streulma> michaelPW :)
[20:24] <michealPW> And also OS X. With no CD, you can't get OS X back, it's in the recovery HD partition LOL. Well unless there's some way I'm not aware of (rofl)
[20:25] <streulma> michaelPW: do CMD + R and you'll get Internet Recovery
[20:25] <streulma> michaelPW: from Lion on
[20:25] <michealPW> How would that work if you cleared the Recovery HD? :\
[20:25] <tony_> how install software on ubuntu
[20:25] <michealPW> Unless it's stored in a chip on the mainboard, I guess. Weird
[20:25] <theadmin> tony_: Using the Software Center.
[20:25] <streulma> michaelPW: from Internet :)
[20:26] <streulma> michaelPW: cmd +R on boot and you will get Internet Recovery (booting recovery from internet)
[20:26] <theadmin> michealPW: Netboot or something... Wouldn't be too hard to pull off DHCP and a netboot image of some sort.
[20:26] <michealPW> streulma: Nono, I mean... Booting th emac and holding Command+R, that 'causes the Darwin bootloader to start booting from the Recovery HD partition, unless I understand the mechanism wrong?
[20:26] <tony_> how install software on ubuntu
[20:26] <theadmin> tony_: I just said. Use the software centre.
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> !apt | tony_
[20:26] <ThinkT510> !software | tony_
[20:26] <michealPW> streulma: It's the same thing that happened to this ASUS PC... Destroying the GPT destroyed the Recovery partition, making my F9 rescue key completely useless LOL
[20:26] <streulma> michaelPW: if you have no recovery partition it will boot from Internet
[20:27] <madprops> !language tony
[20:27] <Bray90820_> The error i got was "chrome crashed with SIGABRT in raise()"
[20:27] <michealPW> Weird
[20:27] <oz6oh> Hello friends i am looking for people knowing something about strobe in parrallelport programming leg 1 on 25 pole
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> oz6oh  how is that ubuntu related?
[20:28] <michealPW> theadmin: Mm, I suppose. They could just put that in the chip where EFI is I guess? :\
[20:28] <michealPW> A little rescue operating system, basically... Hrmm!
[20:28] <tony_> Hello friends i am looking for people knowing something about ssh
[20:28] <oz6oh> monkey because i use it on my ubuntu 13.04
[20:29] <tony_> backtrack5r3
[20:29] <theadmin> michealPW: Yeah. Then again I have no macs anywhere near me (thank goodness, because otherwise I'd be fined for breaking them to bits), so I'm not sure. This is just a suggestion.
[20:29] <theadmin> tony_: Backtrack is not supported.
[20:29] <oz6oh> MonkeyDust i use terminal c and a program
[20:29] <Bray90820_> i am on a 12 CORE MacPro as we speak
[20:29] <Bray90820_> and have a macbook behind me
[20:30] <tony_> an one use   backtrack5r3
[20:30] <streulma> Bray90820_ and use Ubuntu native ? :)
[20:30] <Bray90820_> yes
[20:30] <streulma> nice :)
[20:31] <Bray90820_> it's a triboot with windows 7, OSX, and ubuntu
[20:31] <oz6oh> MonkeyDust is my question not good here ???
[20:31] <betrayd>  ubuntu with OPEN source graphics!
[20:32] <Bray90820_> i wish i could use the open grahics driver
[20:32] <tony_> hiiiiiiiii
[20:32] <Bray90820_> but if i do my video card won't shut up
[20:33] <DJones> !backtrack | tony_
[20:34] <nyuszika7h> Midori froze, I killed it with SIGTERM, then it crashed with SIGSEGV (Cannot access memory at address 0xb587941f)... is that normal?
[20:34] <streulma> anyone interested in a opensource Java project from us ?
[20:35] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know, how can I move fast between workspace?
[20:35] <DJones> !pm > tony_
[20:35] <mojtaba> Is there any shortcut
[20:35] <theadmin> mojtaba: Ctrl-Alt-arrow keys
[20:35] <theadmin> mojtaba: Also, hold down your Super key to see a list of handy keyboard shortcuts.
[20:35] <mojtaba> theadmin: I want to go directly to the desired workspace.
[20:36] <theadmin> mojtaba: Ah... Hm.
[20:36] <mojtaba> theadmin: I knew this, but I have 6 workspaces and do not want to reveal those in the middle, when switching.
[20:36] <theadmin> mojtaba: Don't know of anything like that, might be possible to do though
[20:37] <tony_> Hello friends how use ssh
[20:37] <ThinkT510> !ssh | tony_
[20:37] <betrayd> mojtaba: if it's ewmh compliant wmctrl might work
[20:39] <tony_> hay
[20:39] <tony_> Hello friends how use ssh
[20:39] <johnjohn1011> is compiz gtk loader viable?  or not really
[20:40] <Gnea> !ssh | tony_
[20:40] <DJones> tony_: You've just been given the instructions on how to use SSH, please read them
[20:40] <transit441> anyone here have experience setting up openvpn on an ubuntu server
[20:40] <transit441> that can spare 5-10 minutes
[20:40] <transit441> ia lmost ogt it done but im snaggged on soimetime
[20:40] <streulma> michaelPW: why isn't Mac OS X good ?
[20:41] <transit441> streulma: OSX is fantastic
[20:41] <transit441> im a programmera nd i use OSX
[20:41] <joroaf> /ns
[20:41] <ThinkT510> streulma: not a discussion for this channel
[20:41] <transit441> C C++ PHP PHP java python
[20:41] <transit441> anyone wanna help me with a VPN problem?
[20:41] <streulma> transit441: openvpn yes
[20:41] <transit441> can uhelp me
[20:41] <streulma> yes
[20:44] <michealPW> I found for the price-point, OS X is not up to par. Even compared to completely free operating systems, like Ubuntu, OS X is pretty bad.
[20:44] <DJones> !ot | michealPW
[20:45] <g480> how gadmei utv380 usb tvtuner work on ubuntu?
[20:45] <himanshu_linux> hi , I am using ubuntu 13.04  and after logging in .. gets crash (and nothing work) . So i typed "unity" in terminal , the got even worse ..... PLease Help :(
[20:45] <bindi> can I ask about Cacti on ubuntu? I just installed it using 'sudo apt-get install cacti' and configured everything, but now it gives me this error: ERROR: opening '/var/lib/cacti/rra/localhost_mem_buffers_3.rrd': No such file or directory
[20:45] <michealPW> It's completely lacking in the field of Security. It's a wide-open system, the deeper you dig. Riddle with bugs, due to Apple's constant urge to re-invent well established wheels, such as MIME Types.
[20:46] <himanshu_linux> how to reset it??
[20:46] <michealPW> Apologies, DJones.
[20:46] <michealPW> *zips it*
[20:47] <DJones> michealPW: The discussion would be fine in #ubuntu-offtopic, just not something to support in this channel
[20:47] <michealPW> I don't know why I always forget about #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <michealPW> LOL I should probably be in there, not here :P
[20:47] <himanshu_linux> My system suddenly got crashed ... and nothing is working . I am using 13.04 . please help ..
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> himanshu_linux  any error messages?
[20:49] <himanshu_linux> No
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> !work | himanshu_linux
[20:51] <JoshDreamland> Hi; nautilus does this cool new thing wherein, instead of just selecting the first filename matching the string I type, it performs a painfully slow search for files containing that text. Is there a setting for that, or was this another executive decision I'm going to have to take or leave?
[20:51] <himanshu_linux> MonkeyDust : when i logged in system my , it gets crash... so i typed unity in terminal thinking it will restore .. but now nothing is working. Right now i am using Guest Account of the system ..
[20:51] <MoL0ToV> hello world
[20:52] <himanshu_linux> MonkeyDust : yesterday i have installed the system
[20:53] <JoshDreamland> never mind, I should have switched to XFCE when Torvalds did two years ago. Cheers.
[20:53] <Luke23ae> I got a question: can you upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 from within ubuntu?
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Hullo. I've installed precise x32 on an acer aspire one d270-1824; the network manager sees the various ap's and attempts connection, but it does not get a real connection. the live cd connected fine-ish, but not in-install. iwconfig shows the ap mac just fine. is it working and just not connecting or is it malfunctioning.
[20:54] <dakotawulfy> Luke23ae first to 12.04 to 12.10 then 12.10 to 13.04
[20:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Luke23ae: I would not suggest it. one 13.04 is still pretty cutting edge, and two in-install upgrades tend to be messy.
[20:54] <Luke23ae> dakotawulfy: thanks
[20:54] <Luke23ae> ntzrmtthihu777: alright, then I guess it's too early now
[20:55] <dakotawulfy> Luke23ae I was able to get it to work on the 64 bit to work but not the 32 bit
[20:56] <Luke23ae> dakotawulfy: alright. I wasn't aware it's not really stable yet. I just wanted to install the latest version
[20:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Luke23ae: I stick to lts's myself, as 1. they are supported longer, 2. I've had better experience with them, and 3. should you want to do an in-install upgrade, you can jump straight between lts versions without having to do the intermediary versions.
[20:57] <nsaquatics> afternoon... anybody have a second to help me with my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server? mysql server doesn't want to start because of permissions problems.. As far as I can tell, it has all the right permissions, but still does not want start telling me that it is unable to read/write to the PID file.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, You might check in #ubuntu-server
[20:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | nsaquatics
[20:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: oh wait, lts server is 5 years, huh?
[20:58] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee: Thanks, will do.
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Yes
[21:00] <Luke23ae> can you expect that the latest versions of applications will be available for 12.10 or will they usually be available for 13.10 first? (or at least are the usually released for 12.10 in a reasonable time)?
[21:01] <michealPW> Luke23ae: You might not want to hear this, but the answer is most likely 12.04... Not 12.10 *or* 13.04.
[21:01] <michealPW> 12.04 is LTS and supported into 2017... Software development companies wet their pants for this kind of thing.
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Luke23ae, expect nothing to many people involved.
[21:01] <michealPW> A garuantee that the platform will not move/change until 2017.. Brilliant :P
[21:02] <DJones> Luke23ae: Newer version's of software generally don't get brought out once an Ubuntu version has been released
[21:02] <Luke23ae> ok, thanks for your anwsers guys :)
[21:02] <DJones> !newest | Luke23ae This explains it better,
[21:03] <Luke23ae> ubottu: thanks
[21:03] <Luke23ae> LOL
[21:08] <johnjohn1011> if you upgrade, you should back up just in case.
[21:09] <Jonah_d> Error on update to 13.04 -> http://pastebin.com/j223usHx   HELP?
[21:13] <shogoot> Anyone to help me troubleshoot this? Forbidden You don't have permission to access /smn.php on this server. Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at 192.168.1.166 Port 80 - Seems i got the var/www direcotry messed up rightswise, and i can t mak emy web page dispaly....
[21:17] <kkerwin> Stupid question: how do I figure out what version of Ubuntu I'm running? I've updated so many times I can't keep track ...
[21:17] <shogoot> uname -a
[21:17] <kkerwin> shogoot: Didn't give me the info I needed.
[21:17] <MoL0ToV> bye to all
[21:17] <kkerwin> shogoot: Just got: Linux frodo 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:17] <adamk> kkerwin: lsb_release -a
[21:18] <shogoot> cat /etc/*-release
[21:18] <kkerwin> adamk: Excellent. Thank you.
[21:18] <kkerwin> I'm running 12.04; how do I upgrade again? Command line is fine.
[21:18] <shogoot> sudo update, tehn upgrade
[21:18] <kkerwin> Current version is 13.04, if memory serves.
[21:18] <theadmin> kkerwin: You can only update to 12.10 and then to 13.04.
[21:19] <kkerwin> theadmin: Sounds good. How do I go about doing that, please?
[21:19] <mustmodify> Just installed 13.04. On login, screen is having some kind of drawing problem. Here's a screen shot of a picture from my phone. https://url.odesk.com/g1toqf
[21:20] <theadmin> kkerwin: That's a tedious process and will take a few hours. If that's fine, then modify the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades so that Prompt=normal, after which run "sudo do-release-upgrade".
[21:20] <gerritvk> Can someone help me with zfs on 12.04. I have imported the pool but it won't mount. When I try any commands concerning zfs or zpool the console just sits there
[21:20] <kkerwin> theadmin: Better now than later. Thank you for your help.
[21:20] <Vivekananda> bcb2
[21:20] <theadmin> kkerwin: I personally suggest waiting for 14.04 and upgrading directly to that (LTS -> LTS is possible).
[21:21] <theadmin> kkerwin: 13.04 doesn't have any noticable changes, really, apart from maybe better hardware support if that's what you're looking for
[21:21] <kkerwin> theadmin: Having difficulty installing WoW under the version of Wine available to me at present.
[21:21] <theadmin> kkerwin: eeeh. Upgrading for that isn't worth it.
[21:21] <theadmin> kkerwin: Check winehq.org, they provide repositories with the latest WINE for supported Ubuntu releases.
[21:22] <kkerwin> theadmin: Very well; I'll try that.
[21:22] <kkerwin> theadmin: Thank you again for your help. Also, when will 14.04 be released? Don't want to fall off the bandwagon again. :D
[21:23] <theadmin> kkerwin: Ubuntu release versions are year.month, so... 2014, April.
[21:23] <mustmodify> Just installed 13.04. On login, screen is having some kind of rendering issue:  https://url.odesk.com/g1toqf
[21:23] <kkerwin> theadmin: Good to know; thanks again.
[21:23] <gerritvk> Can someone help me with zfs on 12.04. I have imported the pool but it won't mount the datasets. When I try any commands concerning zfs or zpool the console just sits there. I have gotten it to work 1 time.
[21:23] <theadmin> kkerwin: So in short, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[21:24] <kkerwin> theadmin: Ooer. You just saved me about five minutes of googling; thanks!
[21:25] <seronis> recently broke my ties to Win7 and figured out most of my essential features.  having an issue with PeerGuardian though
[21:25] <seronis> is there some hidden way to load an iplist as an ALLOW list?
[21:25] <kkerwin> seronis: Congratulations on the divorce.
[21:25] <seronis> the gui seems to allow lists for blocking, and only individual IP/ports for whitelisting
[21:26] <seronis> kkerwin,  i noticed fully a third of my steam library is on Steam Linux,  so no reason not to give it a month as a trial run
[21:27] <theadmin> seronis: They're running WoW, that has no Linux version.
[21:27] <kkerwin> seronis: Indeed. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with your problem, but good luck.
[21:27] <seronis> kkerwin,  thanks anyways =-)
[21:27] <seronis> theadmin, i've used WINE in the past.. im aware it can get a lot of stuff going but its nice to have native versions too
[21:28] <Dr_willis> You could make up some script and use iptables directly seronis . but it will all depend on what services you are doing and trying to bock
[21:28] <rypervenche> seronis: If you want it for all services, iptables would be the best way to go about it.
[21:28] <gerritvk> Can someone help me with zfs on 12.04. I have imported the pool but it won't mount the datasets. When I try any commands concerning zfs or zpool the console just sits there. I have gotten it to work 1 time.
[21:28] <Dr_willis> !info peerguardian
[21:28] <seronis> Dr_willis,  im more interested in getting the same GUI features that PeerBlock had.   being able to see exact what is getting blocked as it happens and simply allow things on temp or perm basis
[21:28] <theadmin> seronis: I agree. Then again, if the software runs natively, it's wine version is likely to perform just as fine. Was the case with many Source-based games for me, for instance, even those not ported yet (e.g. Portal 2)
[21:28] <seronis> and still manage the large lists
[21:29] <SunSoul> who summons me?
[21:29] <Dr_willis> seronis,  peerblock is just for blocking torrent monitoring sites isent it?
[21:29] <mustmodify> Can someone recommend a channel on which I might find help with my graphics issue?
[21:29] <seronis> Dr_willis,  its the same thing as peer guardian.. its a massive  blacklist/whitelist manager for all traffic
[21:29] <BHXSpecter> okay googling for errors has worked a on a few errors but now I have this error and I can't find a result for it though http://pastebin.com/GJt6Ynyu
[21:29] <theadmin> mustmodify: This is the right channel, but it seems nobody who can help is online. Try http://askubuntu.com
[21:29] <seronis> Dr_willis, at some point it branched off FROM the PG code
[21:30] <mustmodify> theadmin: ok thanks
[21:30] <rypervenche> seronis: Personally I would use a different torrent client that allows it from within the program, like qbittorrent.
[21:30] <Dr_willis> seronis,  I looked into it once i recall ages ago..  I just recall people thinking it made torrenting 'safe from the cops' which it definatly does not. ;)
[21:30] <kkerwin> Hrm. I know that #winehq would be a better place to ask this, but they're silent: trying to install WoW, and keep getting it hanging at "Checking for Updates". Also, getting this error in the console: ". err:wininet:open_http_connection create_netconn failed: 10036
[21:30] <seronis> rypervenche, Dr_willis :   but torrents is only a small part of it.  i dont want it limited to one program.   want it system wide
[21:30] <rypervenche> seronis: Then I would use iptables.
[21:31] <seronis> but IP tables (when i was looking it over, could be wrong) looked like its not good for feedback
[21:31] <rypervenche> seronis: Assuming you have a list of IP addresses.
[21:31] <theadmin> kkerwin: Well, wine isn't supported here so you'll have better luck in #winehq regardless. Check the Wine Application Database for your app, it might have fixes for common problems with it.
[21:31] <BHXSpecter> stuck at hospital until monday morning otherwise I would just back up my code and reinstall 12.10 and install everything again, but figured I have two days...might as well try to fix it myself
[21:31] <Dr_willis> seronis,  to be honest.. i dont even see the need for it running on a linux box.   Only things i see 'comming' in on a normal basis are random port scans or people trying to ssh in. those are easially blocked by other tools
[21:31] <rypervenche> seronis: There are front-ends for iptables, such as gufw.
[21:31] <kkerwin> theadmin: Damn. Been there, done that. :(
[21:32] <seronis> rypervenche,  im  4 days into my linux experiment..  hadnt found that out yet =-)
[21:32] <seronis> guess i'll keep looking into iptables too
[21:32] <rypervenche> seronis: That's a fairly simple-to-use GUI frontend for iptables.
[21:32] <Dr_willis> seronis,  to to be honest with you - I think you are still in a 'windows mindset' where you think such things are needed.  when they really are not  needed for a typical linux setup.
[21:32] <seronis> can it also manage downloading the various lists from the urls where they are maintained
[21:32] <theadmin> rypervenche, seronis: correction: gufw is a frontend for, well, ufw. Which is a frontend for iptables, I guess.
[21:32] <rypervenche> seronis: But like they said, you probably don't even need to block all of those IP addresses.
[21:33] <Dr_willis> but have fun ;)
[21:33] <rypervenche> theadmin: Right right.
[21:33] <theadmin> rypervenche: Eh, just saying because some might have something against ufw for one reason or another.
[21:33] <seronis> peerguardian linux installed nice.. and its 99% matching peerblock from windows.. right now the only issue im having is figuring out how to get it to load the lists as whitelists
[21:34] <seronis> was hoping someone had familiarity with that specific program.  gonna look into IPtables more too though
[21:34] <rypervenche> seronis: For a beginner, iptables will look quite confusing, especially as it's command line only.
[21:34] <seronis> im 35..  CLI isnt difficult
[21:34] <seronis> =-)
[21:35] <rypervenche> All right.
[21:35] <Dr_willis> seronis,  when  i cant find decent docs for ubuntu for a complex topic - i often look at the archwiki pages -->    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PeerGuardian_Linux
[21:35] <deadweasel> what happened to the unity launcher?  I have a 5 sec delay every time I hit it now (just did dist-upgrade)
[21:35] <Dr_willis> seronis,  it mentions --->  /etc/pgl/allow.p2p lists custom IP ranges that will not be filtered.
[21:36] <seronis> didnt realize Arch information would apply for something derived from Debian -> Ubuntu.   thanks for the information (everyone) should probably have enough to be able to find what i need
[21:37] <seronis> unless someone knows the exact answer of course.   =-)
[21:37] <Dr_willis> services and configs should be about the same.. but there can be differances
[21:37] <Dr_willis> the  peerblock site/docs most likely have the definitive answer somewhere
[21:38] <seronis> they just kept referencing the block lists and the (easily found) manual whitelisting of INDIVIDUAL ip/port combos
[21:38] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/peerguardian/
[21:38] <seronis> the program has the functionality to import lists that are maintained offsite..  and the windows version lets you assign those lists as either blacklists OR whitelists
[21:38] <Dr_willis> no idea on any more really.
[21:38] <seronis> pgl only seems to use them as blacklists
[21:39] <seronis> i've been browsing the sourceforge link since yesterday
[21:39] <seronis> =-)
[21:39] <seronis> thank you all the same
[21:39] <rypervenche> seronis: Check your private message as well.
[21:39] <seronis> oh.. didnt notice it
[21:39] <Dr_willis> i imagine the idea is that everything is 'allowed' except whats blocked...
[21:40] <Dr_willis> otherwise you are filtering out to many good sites with the bad.
[21:41] <SrPx> Hey guys, a friend is installing windows + ubuntu on the same machine. He asked me the following: "should I install windows in a partition and leave 30gb free, then install ubuntu there... or install ubuntu in a 30gb partition, then install windows"? I remember installing ubuntu w/ no problems even if I had windows on 100%... so, well
[21:41] <SrPx> what do I say?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> SrPx,  install windows FIRST
[21:41] <SrPx> Dr_willis: leaving 30gb free ?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> however muich  space you want free... of course.
[21:41] <sethrobodeene> very new to linux/xubuntu, browsed all the linux.org beginner stuff, as well as the xubuntu.or beginner stuff.  any other beginner guides you would suggest?
[21:42] <SrPx> Dr_willis: I see, thanks!
[21:42] <Dr_willis> and you may want to try to restrict windows to just using 1 primary partion - if you can.
[21:42] <Dr_willis> !manual | sethrobodeene
[21:42] <The_Ghost> Ok I used clamscan to scan a windows partion but in the scan summery it said it  found 3 infected files I would like to know were they are now ?
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_willis, windows needs min. 2 partitions for vista and later, one for its boot and recovery sector, the other for the OS.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> The_Ghost,  you mean it moved them?
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> they can't restrict it to just 1
[21:43] <Dr_willis> TheLordOfTime,  actually  theres ways around that need for a boot partition from what i looked up ages ago.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> but the issue these days is many recovery-disk sets - make 4 PRIMARY partitions - which really screws things up for linux
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_willis, lemme guess: highly techie fix?
[21:44] <SrPx> Dr_willis: hmm but.. should he leave the partition created when he install windows... or just leave as free space on hd?
[21:44] <Dr_willis> TheLordOfTime,  i dont recall it being to complex. had to do it for a friend about 3 yrs ago.
[21:44] <Dr_willis> SrPx,  leave it UNALLOCATED on the hard drive. not part of any partition.
[21:44] <redwan> hello all, I am new to this channel, I am about to wipe off ubuntu 12.10 and replace it with 13.4, do you think it's worth it?
[21:45] <Guest46675> hi
[21:45] <seronis> Dr_willis,  with peerblock all whitelists have higher priority than blacklists.    so if you are subscribed to a blacklist that is a little too paranoid you can allow the things you need specifically and that takes precedence
[21:45] <SrPx> Dr_willis: my friend thanked you ^^
[21:45] <sethrobodeene> thx dr_willis, looks like good info
[21:45] <Guest46675> I am using ubuntu 13.04 installed on a 8GB flash drive
[21:45] <seronis> need the whitelists mostly for gaming servers
[21:47] <Dr_willis> seronis,  on a linux box - this is getting into the 'tinfoil hat' paranoia range . just to let ya know.. ;)
[21:48] <seronis> honestly I only use the least paranoid level of the subscription lists.. but they still end up blocking a lot of Steam and educational IPs
[21:48] <seronis> which is why the whitelist is so important to me
[21:48] <moppers> Dr_willis, gamng server blocklists can be to stop griefers, not hackers
[21:48] <Dr_willis> biggest 'danger' i see to a typical ubuntu desktop machine these days.. is the user/admin doing things they shouldent be doing.  Not outside hackers ;P
[21:49] <moppers> Dr_willis, for example the guy who yells rude words all day at other players
[21:49] <seronis> and reddit articles are getting blocked (rarely)
[21:49] <Dr_willis> moppers,  you just described  what happens in this channel... a lot. ;P
[21:49] <seronis> cant have it blocking my reddit
[21:50] <The_Ghost> Is Avast any good for scanning a Linux partition ?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !av
[21:50] <moppers> and cross platform java exploits
[21:51] <Louis_1> anybody else having boot problems with 13.04?
[21:51] <moppers> i do need a good firewall though for *nix
[21:51] <moppers> i want a firewall that can block applications by name so i can do stuff like prevent things updating when i am on a mobiel connection and paying for bandwidth
[21:51] <seronis> ugh.. paying for bandwidth
[21:51] <Dr_willis> moppers,  linux has a  good firewall allready
[21:51] <moppers> sure i can block ports
[21:52] <moppers> but i can't block individual applications
[21:52] <Dr_willis> but it works diffently then how windows does its firewalling
[21:52] <Dr_willis> windows and linux take differnt approaches to firewalling
[21:52] <moppers> so how do i block an application by name?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> No idea. never needed to or wanted to on linux.
[21:52] <Dr_willis> i rarely need any firewall features on the linux boxs i run
[21:53] <moppers> so i take your comment abot 'good' firewall with some skepticism then since you can't know the answer
[21:53] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com might have some info on the topic.
[21:53] <Dr_willis> linux firewalling is designed from the 'server' ussage approach. windows is from the 'dekstop user' type approach
[21:54] <rypervenche> moppers: iptables or a frontend for it is all you really need. You don't need application-level blocks. You block or limit things coming to specific ports, which is what I believe you are talking about.
[21:54] <Dr_willis> cant recall the guide i saw once that mentioned all that.. was a few years back
[21:54] <moppers> but everything uses port 80
[21:54] <moppers> i'd have to block by individual ip address
[21:55] <rypervenche> moppers: What are you trying to block exactly?
[21:55] <moppers> or it uses bittorrent to update and i want some bit torrents and not others
[21:55] <moppers> rypervenche, let's say i am on a mobile connection and i want to stop an app updating over bittorrent, but i dont want ot stop my other bittorrent download...
[21:55] <moppers> how do i do that with iptables?
[21:56] <JoshDreamland> Could anyone tell me why Thunderbird can't open links in firefox?
[21:56] <Dr_willis> I wonder if theres an #iptables channel.
[21:57] <bazhang> #netfilter
[21:57] <rypervenche> moppers: I would block the IP. You want it to be automated?
[21:57] <rypervenche> moppers: I'm sure the torrent program has a way to block by IP or other criteria as well.
[21:58] <moppers> which IP would you block? it's bit torrent....
[21:58] <moppers> it' a peer to peer system
[21:58] <moppers> and the app would be using its own torrent program
[21:58] <The_Ghost> any way to bypass a proxy to let me use Bittorent ?
[21:58] <moppers> game patchers for example use their own p2p code
[21:58] <moppers> (well some of them)
[21:59] <rypervenche> moppers: Then you need to get with the apps developers perhaps. You can block the IP of the person downloading the files from your computer.
[21:59] <moppers> yea pretty much ... that's why i want a firewall that can block apps by name
[21:59] <rypervenche> lol
[22:00] <moppers> basiclaly iptables can't do it
[22:00] <Dr_willis> ask in #netfilter perhaps
[22:00] <redwan> what do you mean by app that block app by name
[22:00] <redwan> there isnt such a thing
[22:01] <Dr_willis> redwan,  the way wiindows does it with a dialog asking 'are you sure you want to let this random game you have been running for the last 30 min  access the internet?'   perhaps?
[22:01] <Dr_willis> at least thats when i see the dialog.. after i exit the game and it has allready been on the internet. ;)
[22:01] <seronis> redwan,  thats how windows firewall works
[22:01] <redwan> check the port it uses and block it
[22:01] <seronis> you choose programs you want blocked.. not just ports
[22:02] <seronis> redwan,  he also said its one of the games that uses bittorrent for its updating.  no single port
[22:02] <seronis> i've played several korean rpgs that did that
[22:02] <moppers>  cant block by port if it's phoning home on port 80 like most things do
[22:02] <moppers> can block by IP address but not if it's using its own torrent client
[22:03] <moppers> easier to just block /usr/local/crapgame from accessing network
[22:03] <Dr_willis> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12499/iptables-pf-rule-to-only-allow-xy-application-user   but its a little old.
[22:03] <redwan> if you have torrent installed and opened in your machine than there is nothing to stop it from communicating out..
[22:03] <seronis> gufw's website screen shots doesnt show anything mentioning program name or path in the settings
[22:03] <redwan> because you basically opened everything and anything
[22:03] <seronis> so doesnt look like it can do it
[22:04] <moppers> an application level firewall would do it
[22:04] <Salmy> pra que serve isso
[22:04] <redwan> SElinux
[22:04] <redwan> is your friend
[22:04] <justinholm3s> not needed if your sys admins are good
[22:04] <Dr_willis> redwan,  yea.. ive seen people go berzerk with selinux ;0 and lock theirselfs out
[22:05] <Dr_willis> you just dont hear much about selinux these days
[22:05] <moppers> does it work on ubuntu?
[22:05] <redwan> Ive seen tons of people locking them selves out with a simple firewall
[22:05] <Dr_willis> !selinux
[22:06] <moppers> maybe apparmor?
[22:06] <Dr_willis> I was into this hard core security stuff about 5 yrs back.. ;) but honestly havent even worried about it on my ubuntu boxs in years
[22:06] <redwan> give yourself time, and learn it, then apply it to your enviroment, it's the way forward
[22:07] <justinholm3s> again not needed if you only expose port 80/443
[22:07] <moppers> are you sure selinux can do it?
[22:07] <eskisehirleee> turkey
[22:07] <Dr_willis> i would suggest looking into apparmour first. Not diving right into selinux..
[22:08] <redwan> if it's good enough for cia. fbi and top dogs then is good enough for you
[22:08] <seronis> "#apparmor on irc.oftc.net"
[22:08] <moppers> redwan no becuas they limit what their users can install
[22:09] <moppers> i am looking now at fedora's docs for selinux and i dont see how to block a specific binary from accessing the network
[22:09] <eskisehirleee> türk lazým
[22:10] <redwan> sorry guys got to go now
[22:10] <DoYouKnow> ubuntu 13.04 froze at the end of install in a VMware VM
[22:10] <DoYouKnow> running post-installation trigger
[22:11] <justinholm3s> Vcd or workstation?
[22:11] <DoYouKnow> player
[22:12] <justinholm3s> Im guessing vmware tools has not been updated
[22:12] <DoYouKnow> I usually install the tools after install
[22:13] <justinholm3s> ok I do it during
[22:13] <justinholm3s> 2 secs let me fire up my vmware cluster
[22:14] <moppers> hrm ok selinux might be able to do it after all  but i;d need to script it to change permissions - checking apparmor docs now
[22:15] <davico_> Hi!
[22:15] <davico_> sdl???
[22:15] <moppers> ah yea, appamor/selinux can do it with custom scripts
[22:15] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/2JjWoMF.png
[22:16] <davico_> hi
[22:16] <moppers> DoYouKnow, is that win8?
[22:16] <DoYouKnow> yeah, moppers
[22:16] <DoYouKnow> I run 12.04 LTS fine in it, but not 13.04
[22:17] <DoYouKnow> having an issue with testing out 13.04
[22:17] <DoYouKnow> I'll reboot and try again
[22:17] <redtape-renegade> i dont kow what partitions relate to which flavour of ubuntu on my HDD .. QUESTION : How do i ascertain that info. ??
[22:17] <moppers> i odnt know vmware but vxbox does this each new ubuntu: kernel version vs vbox kernel drivers mismatch
[22:18] <zykotick9> anyone know the link to see when Lucid support ends?  I believe it's May 9th, but want to see "officially".
[22:18] <Dr_willis> redtape-renegade,  mount them and look at the files perhaps?
[22:18] <justinholm3s> @DoYouKnow have you tried server?
[22:18] <Dr_willis> redtape-renegade,  or boot to each one. and  change the label of the filesystem to differante them
[22:18] <samthewildone> hello fellas
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> justinholm3s, You can tab complete nicks @ does not inform them.
[22:19] <redtape-renegade> ok
[22:19] <moppers> zykotick9, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:19] <zykotick9> moppers: thanks
[22:19] <justinholm3s> wilee-nilee I know i just like @
[22:20] <davico_> somebody with experience in SDL?
[22:20] <justinholm3s> define sdl? context?
[22:20] <dRagonsRage> hi, n00bie here
[22:20] <dRagonsRage> :)
[22:20] <seronis> graphics library
[22:20] <seronis> (assumpmtion)
[22:20] <justinholm3s> who knows
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> justinholm3s, Cool, however if you want people officially informed that you are talking to them it does not work.
[22:20] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: no, not yet. I'd rather have the desktop, in case something breaks
[22:21] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: for example, also when deleting lots of specific files, etc. I'd rather have a desktop
[22:22] <justinholm3s> DoYouKnow its virtualised though?
[22:22] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: yeah
[22:23] <seronis> davico_, context ?
[22:23] <davico_> hi
[22:23] <davico_> excuse me
[22:23] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: lately I've been running weather simulation software on it... GrAds+ARPS+GEMPAK
[22:23] <DoYouKnow> with 12.04
[22:23] <davico_> first excuse me for my english
[22:23] <davico_> :D
[22:24] <davico_> i want use sdl only for key events
[22:25] <phenom> Have any of you connected to a VPN on ubuntu?
[22:25] <davico_> if  a key is pressed
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > phenom
[22:25] <davico_> return ie false
[22:25] <phenom> wilee-nilee: I'd appreciate if you would RTFM
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> lol you will really get help now.
[22:26] <azi`> what is the easiest way to switch to the old gnome desktop style?
[22:26] <azi`> i don't like unity
[22:26] <bazhang> phenom, thats never welcome here
[22:26] <bazhang> !guidelines > phenom
[22:27] <phenom> wilee-nilee: I don't need help. I need to know if anyone has successfully connected to a PPTN VPN on ubuntu.
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> azi`, You can install the gnome-shell and use the fallback
[22:27] <justinholm3s> phenom yes
[22:27] <phenom> justinholm3s: Without disabling Firestarter?
[22:28] <maxb> azi`: I've had success with installing the gnome-session-fallback package and then selecting the appropriate option in lightdm before logging in
[22:28] <justinholm3s> phenom  I used the terminal like everyone should lol
[22:28] <phenom> I can't find a way to connect to a PPTN VPN successfully with Firestarted enabled, regardless of iptables rules or user-pre config I setup.
[22:28] <azi`> wilee-nilee: maxb thanks!
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> np
[22:30] <phenom> justinholm3s: appears firestarter doesn't support PPTN
[22:30] <justinholm3s> phenom I never used firestarter
[22:30] <phenom> sorry
[22:30] <phenom> pptp
[22:35] <phenom> So,, how can we get Firestarter, a program packaged in ubuntu to connect to a PPTP VPN?
[22:35] <clinton> I have a updated 12.10 and I want to upgrade to 13.04.  I get a "Can not upgrade" Your python install is corrupted. Please fix the /usr/bin/python symlink.  The link is to python2.7.  I work in python all the time.  Thought it might require python3 so I changed the link and got the same error so I set it back to 2.7.  Googling hasn't helped.  Can someone point the way?
[22:35] <th0r> phenom: firestarter is a firewall, it doesn't connect to a vpn
[22:36] <phenom> sigh
[22:36] <phenom> So,, how can we get Firestarter, a program packaged in ubuntu to allow a connection to a PPTP VPN?
[22:36] <th0r> phenom: you open the ports that the vpn requires
[22:36] <phenom> th0r: Not that simple unfortunately.
[22:37] <phenom> It doesn't appear to support it.
[22:37] <lostinconsole> What is the package name of the free AMD/ATI graphics driver in 13.04?
[22:37] <[JethroDawnfine]> clinton: maybe you added foreign PPAs and now you might disable them and downgrade stuff before upgrading
[22:38] <phenom> I've scoured the web for a fix and the only way to enable it in firestarter is to disable it completely.
[22:38] <clinton> That sounds likely.  However to too sure about how to go about doing it.
[22:39] <phenom> I feel "we" need to kick up dust on this. I remember this issue years ago.
[22:39] <phenom> Not many users appear to use VPN's however.
[22:41] <clinton> Google search is helping with the PPAs.  I'll remove all of them and see what happends.
[22:41] <lostinconsole> I just installed Xubuntu 13.04, and after some very brief purple flickering I am dumped into the console. I have an ATI Radeon HD4050 (something like that anyway) and I have the free driver installed. Graphics worked fine on the live USB, but not in the real installation.
[22:42] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[22:42] <lostinconsole> Dr_willis: Always helpful :)
[22:42] <Dr_willis> try the nomodeset option, then install the ati fglrx drivers
[22:42] <graingert> anyway to see what process is doing lots of HDD io
[22:43] <graingert> ah found it
[22:43] <graingert> it was bitcoin
[22:43] <seronis> ok.. getting  mailto:  to open a new gmail window was easier than expected too
[22:43] <graingert> sigh
[22:46] <davico_> SOMEBODY WITH EXPERIENCE IN SDL????????????????
[22:47] <Dr_willis> davico_,   You mean the SDL  libraries?
[22:48] <seronis> davico_,  caps loc is not your friend.  and it will make other people NOT your friend too
[22:48] <Dr_willis> http://www.libsdl.org/   Simple DirectMedia Layer is a cross-platform multimedia library
[22:48] <davico_> but
[22:48] <davico_> the information in this web site is
[22:48] <davico_> NULL
[22:48] <seronis> does the NeHe tutorials still cover SDL ?
[22:49] <seronis> thats the only time i used it (long time ago)
[22:49] <davico_> but
[22:49] <davico_> i only need the events
[22:49] <davico_> no graphics
[22:49] <davico_> no audio
[22:49] <bazhang> !enter | davico_
[22:49] <seronis> ok.. and read the tutorials till they cover events.. and use what they show
[22:49] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/APIByCategory#Input_Events
[22:50] <yeats> davico_: the SDL website has links to mailing lists and a support forum, FYI - it's probably beyond the scope of the #ubuntu channel
[22:50] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/CategoryEvents
[22:51] <Dr_willis> looks like lots-o-docs to me.. ;) but i dont code.
[22:52] <davico_> yes yes! excuse me
[22:52] <davico_> an thanks
[22:53] <deadweasel> Unity3d is no longer a login option...  I've verified the plugin is selected in ccsm..  also, I have to login twice to get to the desktop for unity, gnome, any other face I put on it...
[22:54] <deadweasel> in 2d the response of the launcher/dash is 5 seconds exactly.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, The history leading to this and details of what you have tried will help, if you want assistance. ;)
[22:59] <deadweasel> i have been reloding gfx drivers recently, it was borked after many xorg reinstalls..  also, I just deleted .compiz-1 as a try for a fix mentioned in the forums.
[23:00] <mizifih> is /etc/rc.local a good place to mount my disks when Ubuntu 13.04 starts?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Be careful with compiz fixes, it has changed over releases, somake sure they are in your release.
[23:00] <betrayd> mizifih: you might miss one that's needed before
[23:01] <mizifih> betrayd: meaning?
[23:01] <betrayd> mizifih: as in, might be too late for the other rc's to succeed
[23:01] <deadweasel> thanks wilee-nilee, i will be more careful in the future.
[23:01] <mizifih> betrayd: I'm a newbie ;(
[23:01] <betrayd> mizifih: maybe we're missing the root of the problem
[23:02] <mizifih> betrayd: hum...
[23:02] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: shoudl I reinstall compiz?
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> mizifih, How are you mounting? Is this partitions or other HD's?
[23:02] <mizifih> betrayd: what's the best way to mount my disks at system startup?
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Not sure, more explanation to the channel might help, I don't use unity.
[23:03] <mizifih> wilee-nilee betrayd I just need to make this disks/partitions available so sabnzbd/sickbeard/xbmc can access it
[23:03] <mizifih> *these
[23:03] <lostinconsole> Dr_willis: I tried nomodeset, but now graphics is just fucked up. There's some flickering and the resolution is very low. The proprietary AMD driver does not support my graphics card.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | mizifih
[23:03] <lostinconsole> :(
[23:03] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  make a fstab entry would be the normal way
[23:03] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee, a good alternative?  :)
[23:04] <IdleOne> !language | lostinconsole
[23:04] <mizifih> Dr_willis: I'll give it some reading
[23:04] <mizifih> thnks
[23:04] <mizifih> thanks*
[23:04] <lostinconsole> IdleOne: sorry
[23:04] <Dr_willis> lostinconsole,  i have exactly 1 ati video card/system.  so no idea on troubleshooting ati.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, I use the gnome shell, there are a number of desktops.
[23:04] <lostinconsole> I suppose I'll have to reinstall 12.04.
[23:05] <jimi_> How can I add a program to the Applications -> Programming menu?
[23:05] <Dr_willis> jimi_, make a proper .desktop launcher file for it and put it in the right location
[23:06] <Dr_willis> use gedit.desktop as an example
[23:06] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: I'm happy with 2d unity, but I just need this 5 second dash delay to reduce to 0.
[23:06] <jimi_> Dr_willis, thanks for the point in the right direction. I think I can get it from there! thanks!
[23:06] <deadweasel> it was fine before all my fiddlin' with gfx drivers
[23:06] <Dr_willis> jimi_,  askubuntu.com has guides on making launchers
[23:06] <jimi_> Dr_willis, nice, ill go check that out right now. you the man!
[23:07] <jimi_> Dr_willis, im laying on the praise thick today, because i sometimes see how many people come in here, get spoon fed and then /part without saying anything, or acting like you get paid to be here :P
[23:07] <seronis> he is paid in our gratitude darn it
[23:07] <seronis> dont make him expect a raise
[23:07] <LarsN> Has anyone here successfully convinced a displaylink USB monitor to work on 13.04?  If so do you have a link to where you documented the process?
[23:07] <jimi_> :P
[23:07] <seronis> *hides*
[23:08]  * jimi_ finds seronis and staples him/her to the wall so that Dr_willis can worm em over
[23:08] <jimi_> lol
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, I think the unity-tweak tool has that option to change.
[23:08] <deadweasel> worm?!
[23:08] <jimi_> lol
[23:08] <jimi_> work
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> lol ignored
[23:10] <Dr_willis> half the time im at work.. getting paid.. ;) and im here..   ;P
[23:10] <Dr_willis> gotta love a job where you get to wait around  half the day
[23:11] <seronis> Dr_willis,  same but im only getting paid min wage to be here
[23:11] <jimi_> Dr_willis, haha, i hang out in other channels duing the day helping out, like php , javascript, salesforce, etc... lol
[23:11] <pillar> is this a help channel?
[23:11] <jimi_> seronis, better than nothing though :)
[23:11] <jimi_> pillar, yes, what's up?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> pillar, ubuntu support
[23:12] <BHXSpecter> wow this error has really had me baffled.....googled every error I had, found fixes, just to be lead to new errors or previous errors. I seem to keep getting errors about multiarch-support, libgcc1, and such ....actively googling each error though
[23:13] <pillar> I have a pcie hdmi capture card HD100C and the manufacturer wrote a driver for my Ubuntu 12.10 and it is a tar.gz and Ihave no idea how to install it
[23:13] <pillar> they emailed to me
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> pillar, Generally a read me in the tar
[23:14] <mizifih> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5633827/
[23:14] <mizifih> sounds about right?
[23:14] <pillar> could I email it to someone here to see if something is missing no install or readme I can find
[23:15] <storminator161> does it contain .c or .cpp files?
[23:15] <pillar> who me?
[23:15] <storminator161> yes, pillar
[23:16] <pillar> I'll go look, I unzipped it and a folder was created
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> pillar, Tar istalls a pretty straight forward most of the time, just be sure that the tar is the answer. http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-to-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file
[23:17] <pillar> I have been at this all day
[23:17] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  dont use spaces in filesystem label names.. and i strongly suggest NOT using them in mountpoint names either.
[23:17] <storminator161> perfect, wilee-nilee
[23:17] <mizifih> Dr_willis: yeah, I was wondering that... but other then that, is that right?
[23:17] <cerv0> hi every body i'm having a problem since this morning and i couldn't find any help
[23:18] <wushu> does anyone know what --sport in an iptables rule does?
[23:18] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  try mounting it and see if it works..    sudo mount -a.  Your use of \ to escape spaces in fstab is incorredt. it does NOT escape spaces that way in that file
[23:18] <BHXSpecter> hmm...says apt-extracttemplates doesn't exist, but I see it in /usr/bin :/
[23:19] <cerv0> i have an exectube create by the main user and i have changed the owner of the executable but the new owner cannot execute it
[23:19] <mizifih> Dr_willis: I'll actually remove those spaces, it was just me being lazy, I get your point.
[23:19] <cerv0> i don't undestand
[23:19] <Dr_willis> mizifih,   spaces in directory/file names can be very annoying. Best to use _ if you want
[23:19] <pillar> In the main folder "xI100E are three folders  Bin, Include, Source
[23:19] <LarsN> well I'm getting closer
[23:19] <mizifih> Dr_willis: yeah, I'll just do that
[23:19] <cerv0> i wanted to say an executable
[23:19] <mizifih> Dr_willis: btw, is it possible to mount more then one disk in one "folder"?
[23:19] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  the ntfs-config tool can auto-generate fstab lines. and the ntfs-3g page has examples
[23:19] <LarsN> when I connect my displaylink monitor I see the UDLFB driver load, and it proper detects the resolution of the monitor.
[23:19] <mizifih> like same path
[23:20] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  not really that i know of.. may be some wayt to do it. but ive never seen the need.
[23:20] <LarsN> is the gnome display properites utility in unity using xrandr, or another utility?
[23:20] <Dr_willis>   you can mount   disk2  to be /media/disk1/disk2 and have it appear under disk1..
[23:20] <pillar> found alsa.c audio.c Makefile misc.c v4l2.c video.c in the Common folder
[23:20] <mizifih> Dr_willis: like a folder inside the first mount?
[23:21] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  all a mountpoint is... is a folder that shows the fs's contents after the mount
[23:21] <Dr_willis> mizifih,   the system is allready doing it if you think about it...
[23:21] <Dr_willis>   /media/disk/whatever           is under the / mount ;)
[23:22] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[23:22] <Dr_willis> You want to be using ntfs-3g instead of ntfs - if you want write support i belive.
[23:23] <storminator161> test
[23:23] <Dr_willis> !test
[23:23] <storminator161> !test
[23:23] <storminator161> ?
[23:23] <pillar> ./configure and make do not work
[23:23] <Dr_willis> no one ever reads what the bot says. ;)
[23:24] <mizifih> Dr. Willis looks like it worked, mount -a didn't bitch
[23:24] <storminator161> first day on IRC in like 10 years, I was trying something out...
[23:24] <donvito|2> is there a way to put ubuntu 12.04 on stand by just like i put windows ?
[23:24] <mizifih> Dr_willis: it did the first time, but said the directory wasn't there, I just created it and looks like it mounted
[23:24] <cerv0> someone could help me ??
[23:24] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  mount point diretorys MUST exist befor you mount to them
[23:25] <mizifih> Dr_willis: yeah, just learned that ;)
[23:25] <mizifih> But it's working ;)
[23:25] <storminator161> cerv0, did you ever state your problem?
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, stand by/
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> stand by?*
[23:25] <mizifih> Dr_willis: now I need to check access permission, see if system can use that
[23:25] <donvito|2> yes
[23:26] <cerv0> storminator161 yes since this morning
[23:26] <donvito|2> i put the pc to sleep, but the processes remain
[23:26] <cerv0> but let me resume
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, hibernate or suspend
[23:26] <donvito|2> suspend doesnt work.
[23:26] <pillar> if ./configure is not working what other options do I have
[23:27] <redtape-renegade> i downloaded UneNetbootin but haven't found where my downloads folder is , downloading from firefox ...
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, Fr help you need to give details.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> For*
[23:28] <donvito|2> well i just tryed suspend for 5 minutes, the computer didnt suspended
[23:28] <mizifih> Dr_willis: and what startup system file should I put sickbeard and sabnzbd in?
[23:28] <lolbat> What is the best backupservice?
[23:28] <redtape-renegade>  i downloaded UneNetbootin but haven't found where my downloads folder is to install the image , downloading from firefox ...
[23:28] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  i dont een know what those do.
[23:29] <bwat47> redtape-renegade, firefox's download manager has a button to open the containing folder... in any case by default it should be /home/downloads. unetbootin is in the ubuntu repos anyway so I'd just recommend installing it from the software center..
[23:29] <mizifih> Dr_willis: well, it's just a software that I need to run at system startup
[23:29] <Dr_willis> redtape-renegade,  /home/username/Downloads
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, What release, any modifications that might affect this...etc
[23:29] <donvito|2> 12.04
[23:29] <donvito|2> skype is runing
[23:29] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  it depends on what they do and what user they need to run as.
[23:30] <cerv0> storminator161 i'm having an executable but the owner can not execute the programme but when i change the owner into the main owner i mean the one who have been created at the installation evrything it's ok
[23:30] <bwat47> redtape-renegade, oh, or are you already in unetbootin and just trying to browse for the image? go to home > username > Downloads
[23:30] <s3b`> guys i'm about to go nuts. mwhy does my ubuntu keep losing my internet connection
 i don't undestand why the new owner is not able to execute the file ?
[23:30] <s3b`> i always thought my other laptop's hardware was going bad, but i just put buntu on another  laptop that was working fine and now i'm losing it again
[23:31] <s3b`> my wifi signal stays there but I just can't connect to anything every 5-10 minutes
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> s3b`, weak signal, ubuntu is not the best at picking up signals.
[23:32] <s3b`> wilee-nilee: Any fixes?
[23:32] <mizifih> Dr_willis: hum... python for sure
[23:32] <bwat47> if its an intel wireless card it might be that wireless n driver bug that seems to affect some people but not others, the workaround is to disable wireless N mode in the driver
[23:32] <mizifih> Dr_willis: they can be the last stuff system will start
[23:33] <s3b`> also my signal should be pretty strong, i'm 10 feet from the router and it reaches all the way to the sidewalk
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> s3b`, Not really if the signal is dropping from ubuntu due to it being weak, can you turn up the signal in the router?
[23:33] <mizifih> Dr_willis: what's confusing, and interesting and useful, is that ubuntu/linux have lots of "autoexec.bat"-like files
[23:33] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  it all depends on whats running and supposed to be doing.
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> 10 feet should be fine starnge.
[23:33] <bwat47> s3b`, what wireless card is it?
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> strange*
[23:34] <s3b`> O
[23:34] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  starting on user LOGIN - theres an autostart directyory in your users .config dir.
[23:34] <s3b`> bwat47: How can I look it up? I'm on a macbook pro retina
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> s3b`, lspci in terminal and look for it.
[23:34] <bwat47> s3b`, lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[23:34] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  starting at system boot BEFOR the user logs in. make a service. or add to /etc/rc.local
[23:35] <mizifih> Dr_willis: well, it would be nice if they both start before user login, I'll see rc.local
[23:35] <s3b`> Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 ? using wl driver
[23:36] <mizifih> Dr_willis: services also start automatically on linux?
[23:36] <Dr_willis> !broadcom
[23:36] <mizifih> make sense, LOL
[23:36] <s3b`> weird my browsers won't connect to google but I'm getting messages here easily
[23:37] <s3b`> facebook works, xchat works, nothing else does
[23:38] <bwat47> pretty strange
[23:38] <s3b`> yeah it's weird, I've never had problems when i was using 12.04. I updated to 12.10 and they started, went back to 12.04 and the problems stayed. put 13.04 on my work laptop and same issue
[23:38] <mizifih> DNS!?
[23:39] <s3b`> maybe, how do I debug DNS on ubuntu?
[23:39] <s3b`> i'd love to google it, but uhh lol
[23:40] <bwat47> does it let you ping google in terminal? ping -c 4 www.google.com
[23:40] <s3b`> No I just tried that
[23:40] <redtape> Just on the other computer now ... I am having problems with this bit of UNetbootin .. Where is my ISO. etc ? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/UNetbootin%20image%20uploading.png
[23:40] <bwat47> s3b`, can you ping 8.8.8.8? (google's public dns address)
[23:41] <s3b`> Yes!
[23:41] <th0r> s3b`: try 'sudo iptables -L' and see if the firewall is on
[23:41] <bwat47> s3b`, yeah definitely sounds like something dns related is acting up
[23:41] <s3b`> this is the weirdest it's gotten before
[23:41] <s3b`> Chain INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT all say policy ACCEPT
[23:42] <s3b`> do you think setting my DNS to google's would work/
[23:43] <bwat47> s3b`, couldn't hurt to try
[23:43] <s3b`> How do I go about doing that?
[23:43] <bwat47> s3b`, you could also try this, probably a total long shot, but you could try disabling ipv6 in networkmanager (go to edit connections > your wireless connection > edit > ipv6 > set it to ignore). I've seen that fix weird issues before
[23:43] <redtape> Did anyone get that ?
[23:44] <bwat47> s3b`, https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using, there's a section there on changing ubuntu's dns server to google's
[23:44] <Dr_willis> redtape,   did you look in your Downloads directory?
[23:44] <s3b`> bwat47: Can't open it :)
[23:44] <redtape> I dont know hopw to locate my downloads directory !
[23:44] <michealpw> LOL
[23:44] <michealpw> redtape: /home/username/Downloads
[23:44] <Dr_willis> redtape,  its right ther ein your  HOME.. called 'Downloads'  fire up the file manager and look
[23:44] <wushu> anyone up for helping me with some iptable rules?
[23:45] <michealpw> redtape: where /username/ is of course, your user name ;)
[23:45] <s3b`> Ah finally got some connection back
[23:45] <s3b`> http://i.imgur.com/ck6yk3X.png this is what i'm staring at
[23:45] <redtape> there is no folder there.. if you look at the uimage i gave you all i have is root and the filesystem.
[23:45] <bwat47> s3b`, go to networkmanager > edit > edit your wireless connection > ipv4 tab > change it from automatic to Automatic (DHCP) addresses only, and then in the dns servers fields use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[23:45] <Dr_willis> redtape,   open a terminal and do a  cd /home/YOURUSERNAME/Downloads
[23:46] <Dr_willis> redtape,  and use ls to LOOK at the files
[23:46] <mizifih> later folx
[23:46] <s3b`> bwat47: Comma inbetween, right?
[23:46] <mizifih> Dr_willis: thanks for everything. I'm rebooting this thing to see if everything is working like it should
[23:47] <s3b`> DR_willis: it says "YOURUSERNAME not found" ??
[23:47]  * s3b` jokes
[23:47] <Dr_willis> redtape,  your screenshot is loking in /usr/ that is NOT /home/
[23:47] <redtape> you dont understand, i have use the 'open disk image file' dialogue screen, in the png i gave yiou to locate the downloads folder .. i can only use that !!
[23:47] <bwat47> s3b`, lol, was gonna be like READ THE TOOLTIP SON
[23:47] <redtape> where is the homer ?
[23:47] <Dr_willis> redtape,  notice at the top it says 'usr' that is  /usr/ you want /home/
[23:48] <s3b`> why don't you guys just tell him to use ~
[23:48] <Dr_willis> redtape,  so go up a directory or 2 untill you find /home
[23:48] <redtape> ok where is /home / ??
[23:48] <s3b`> oh is he browsing manually
[23:48] <Dr_willis>   /home/ is on the root of the drive... go UP one directory and you will see it
[23:48] <michealpw> redtape: / denotes the very top of the disk. So /home is a top-level directory..
[23:48] <Dr_willis> that little pencil icon shows you the PATH
[23:48] <michealpw> It's like saying C:\home
[23:49] <bwat47> s3b`, yeah unetbootin runs as root so when it opens the browse window it starts you in the root folder
[23:49] <s3b`> ah gotcha, only caught the last half of it and i couldn't open his screenshot
[23:50] <s3b`> just restarted my connection with google's DNS and still ain't getting anything
[23:50] <s3b`> so strange
[23:51] <netlar> How easy does Ubuntu make upgrading to a new version now?
[23:51] <essentialz> having some issues getting bluetooth enabled. i have a lenovo p580 laptop with onboard bluetooth. For some reason ubuntu is not recognizing it as an adapter? it shows bluetooth service running, but when i click in the bluetooth setting everything is greyed out with no adapters show. anyone can point me in the right direction?
[23:51] <s3b`> isn't it just one commnand
[23:51] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[23:51] <redtape> Dr_willis: & michealpw .. yur right .. im installing the iso on the pen drive using UNetbootin now. thank-you.
[23:51] <s3b`> 13.04 is awesome but i fell in love with xmonad and had to say bye
[23:51] <bwat47> s3b`, did you try disabling ipv6? I've seen that solve weird issues people have sometimes lol
[23:51] <s3b`> bwat47: Yeah I did both
[23:52] <s3b`> browser's loading right now, lets see how long it lasts
[23:52] <matriks404> hi i has today kernel panic (first in my life, over 2 years of using Ubuntu) and is there a file where it is written crash log or something?
[23:52] <azi`> i am not able to install almost anything.. ubuntu is saying archive.ubuntu.com network is unreachable..
[23:53] <azi`> is there a heavy traffic going on or something?
[23:53] <storminator16> azi, on the same machine you are chatting from?
[23:53] <redtape> boot failed .. oh poo.
[23:53] <azi`> storminator16: correct
[23:53] <azi`> err storminator16 no
[23:54] <storminator16> wait....."yes" or "no" lol
[23:54] <azi`> storminator16: i am chatting thrugh a screen sesh on another server
[23:54] <storminator16> ah
[23:54] <matriks404> can i see in any file what was cause of kernel panic?
[23:54] <Dr_willis>   /var/log/kernel*  perhaps matriks404
[23:55] <storminator16> can you ping the outside world from the problem machine?
[23:55] <nubby> hey guys im having a little problem i got a ssoftware update yesterday and after a restart my bootsplash is the lower quality and when im booted i seem to be stuck in 4:3 aspect ratio max res 1024x768 i assume its becuase of a kernel headers getttign update i tried re isntallign bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia but still get the issue
[23:55] <Jordan_U> matriks404: /var/log/dmesg if you're lucky (but you're only going to get kernel messages from before the actual panic as afterward the kernel can't write to the hard drive). Is this a UEFI machine or a BIOS based one?
[23:55] <nubby> i have this apearign in my dmesg
[23:56] <essentialz> having some issues getting bluetooth enabled. i have a lenovo p580 laptop with onboard bluetooth. For some reason ubuntu is not recognizing it as an adapter? it shows bluetooth service running, but when i click in the bluetooth setting everything is greyed out with no adapters show. anyone can point me in the right direction?
[23:56] <matriks404> Jordan_U BIOS Netbook, i was playing Minecraft and i was chatting on TeamSpeak3, and kernel panic showed up
[23:56] <nubby> [  147.174456] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to disable graphis turbo
[23:56] <nubby>  it spearign 7 time in the b ottom of dmesg after boot
[23:56] <netlar> is it uncommon for a new version of Ubuntu to break previous installed components?
[23:56] <s3b`> annnnnnnd it's gone
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Not answerable as you ask, specific apps and specific installs are needed here.
[23:57] <Jordan_U> matriks404: When booted via UEFI the kernel can save panic crash dumps to UEFI variables, but without that (or a pre setup net console) you can't really log a kernel panic.
[23:57] <s3b`> wow that's weird I can't even ping the router i'm connected to
[23:58] <s3b`> LOL
[23:58] <matriks404> Jordan_U: OK, thanks
[23:58] <Jordan_U> s3b`: And yet you're still talking to us through said router? And you're pinging by ip?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> matriks404: You're welcome.
[23:58] <s3b`> Yes and yes
[23:58] <s3b`> unless my router has changed IP's
[23:59] <s3b`> --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
[23:59] <s3b`> 30 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 28999ms
[23:59] <donvito|2> is it possible to run web portal on ubuntu 12.04?
[23:59] <dibs> If I nmap another ubuntu box on my local netwrok should I see it's ports open if thesame box nmapping its self has them open?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Sounds like something is wrong with your network, not with linux.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Are you using a static ip address or DHCP?
[23:59] <s3b`> DHCP