[06:33] <Cantide> morning Kilos :)
[06:33] <Symmetria> sooooooooooo
[06:33] <Symmetria> do I go buy a 1D-X
[06:33] <Symmetria> or not 
[06:34] <Cantide> what''s that?
[06:34] <Symmetria> http://www.canon.co.za/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_1Dx/index.aspx
[06:34] <Cantide> ah :)
[06:34] <Symmetria> its basically 1 off their top of the line
[06:34] <Cantide> looks professional :p
[06:35] <Symmetria> I currently use a 7D 
[06:35] <Kilos> gmorning
[06:35] <Symmetria> http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey3.jpg <[06:35] <Cantide> how huge is huge?
[06:36] <Cantide> more than 5 MB?
[06:36] <Symmetria> 13 meg ;p
[06:36] <Symmetria> http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/cheetah.jpg <[06:37] <Cantide> nice :)
[06:40] <Symmetria> thing is, Im thinking the 5D Mark III or 1D-X 
[06:40] <Symmetria> might be a better low light camera 
[06:40] <Symmetria> the 7D is useful for high speed good light
[06:40] <Symmetria> but it doesnt really have the ISO sensitivity
[07:00] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[08:52] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:59] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos 
[08:59] <Vince-0> I woke up thinking it was Monday, yoh
[08:59] <Vince-0> scary stuff
[09:00] <Kilos> hahaha only one day so enjoy it
[11:43] <Kilos> oh my
[11:43] <Kilos> hi psydroid hows you?
[11:43] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[11:43]  * Kilos greets whoever else missed the net splits
[11:44] <psydroid> I am doing fine, thanks
[11:44] <psydroid> what about you?
[11:44] <Kilos> im good also ty
[11:44] <psydroid> I am in Poland now
[11:44] <Kilos> thats good, you got that job?
[11:45] <psydroid> yeah
[11:45] <psydroid> tomorrow I will sign the final contract
[11:45] <Kilos> wonerful and internet at home too?
[11:46] <psydroid> but that will also be my first work day
[11:46] <Kilos> great
[11:46] <Kilos> im happy for you
[11:46] <psydroid> yes, I got a room here
[11:46] <psydroid> I share the apartment with another guy
[11:46] <psydroid> thank you
[11:47] <psydroid> and my internet is also quite stable
[11:47] <Kilos> and uncapped?
[11:49] <psydroid> I don't know about that, but it is broadband at least
[11:50] <psydroid> hi georgelappies
[11:51] <georgelappies> hi psydroid
[11:53] <Kilos> thats great psydroid 
[11:53] <Kilos> hows georgelappies today
[11:54] <Kilos> lo Trixar_za 
[11:55] <Trixar_za> lo Kilos
[11:55] <Kilos> psydroid, do you get to do linux work or winsucks
[12:01] <psydroid> Kilos, on my new company laptop winsucks unfortunately
[12:01] <Kilos> oh well at least its work
[12:01] <psydroid> and the work will be winsucks related too
[12:01] <psydroid> yeah
[12:01] <Kilos> and keeps you up to date with billys toys
[12:01] <psydroid> it does
[12:02] <psydroid> but I'll buy my own laptop next month anyway
[12:02] <psydroid> so I can do my linux stuff on it
[12:03] <Kilos> ah, can you guys get lappys without winsucks preinstalled
[12:03] <Kilos> not easy in za
[12:03] <psydroid> hmm, I'm not sure about that
[12:04] <psydroid> but as long as I can remove it and install (k)ubuntu, I'm ok with it
[12:07] <psydroid> I've read about new Acer laptops containing quadcore AMD chips and touchscreens
[12:07] <psydroid> that would be great to replace my desktop I have back in the Netherlands
[12:08] <Kilos> ah
[12:09] <Kilos> i always wondered about these touch screen cellphones and tablets, dont the screens get scratched or messy after a while
[12:11] <Kilos> i know it messes mine if i squash a bug on it
[12:12] <Symmetria> yes you can, buy a mac ;p
[12:12]  * Symmetria grins
[12:12] <Kilos> lol
[12:13] <Symmetria> they are still the best notebooks around imho ;p
[12:17] <psydroid> :D
[12:17] <psydroid> they do get messy indeed
[12:18] <psydroid> maybe it's better to put some coating on their screens
[12:18] <Kilos> ya like the stick on covers they make for cellphones
[12:19] <Kilos> when scratched rip it off and put a new one
[12:27] <psydroid> yeah
[12:35] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[12:38] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[12:39] <magespawn> power went off last night
[12:39] <Kilos> ai!
[12:39] <Kilos> what a pain. bad as no internet
[12:40] <magespawn> indeed
[12:43] <psydroid> hello magespawn
[12:43] <magespawn> hi psydroid
[16:07] <Squirm> evening
[16:10] <Cantide> hi
[16:10] <Cantide> '-'/
[17:59] <trender> (.)(.)
[17:59] <trender>   __
[17:59] <trender> ok who has eaten kilos ?
[17:59] <trender> spit him out
[18:02] <inetpro> trender: wasn't me
[18:02] <inetpro> good evening trender
[18:03] <trender> evenin
[18:03] <trender> kilos been gone all day ?
[18:04] <trender> logged of at 4pm hrm interesting
[18:04] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:05] <trender> guess linux crashed :(
[18:05] <inetpro> that sure is a bit unlike him
[18:05] <trender> uhuh very strange
[18:08] <trender> anybody think a powerbox is a good thing in case eskom chokes on a furball ??
[18:09] <trender> thinking of getting a powerbox
[18:09] <trender> power telly and a few lights etc
[18:10] <inetpro> trender: what is a powerbox?
[18:10] <trender> like a UPS
[18:10] <trender> battery + inverter + charger i guess
[18:10] <trender> standby power in case lights go out
[18:11] <inetpro> ahh you mean a real UPS or is this something new?
[18:11] <trender> not a real UPS but has the same function
[18:11] <trender> used deep cycle lead acid
[18:12] <trender> can power tv for several hours
[18:12] <trender> depending on battery capacity
[18:12]  * inetpro would get a UPS and a backup generator if money allowed it
[18:12] <trender> a 3hr powerbox not good enuf ?
[18:13] <inetpro> you have a link to something specific?
[18:13] <trender> erm not really forgot where i seen them now
[18:14] <trender> just know you get about 3hrs tv and a light
[18:14] <trender> on basic box
[18:15] <trender> or even 3hrs internet i guess
[18:15] <inetpro> I guess that could help a bit, depending on the price
[18:15] <trender> about 3k i think all in a little box with wheels
[18:17] <trender> you can buy more powerbox batteries to double the power if you want 6hrs
[18:17] <trender> they can cascade
[18:18] <trender> so you buy 4 boxes if you need 24hrs power
[18:19] <inetpro> actually what I should rather invest in is renewable energy to save on ever escalating costs
[18:19] <trender> you can also hook it to a solar cell
[18:20] <inetpro> tough to start doing it
[18:20] <inetpro> need to much money to start
[18:20] <inetpro> too as well
[18:20] <trender> i spose its really just ok for emergencyies
[18:20] <trender> emergencies even
[18:21] <trender> so you dont have 3hrs of blackness
[18:21] <inetpro> well if I have two hours of blackness I rather go sleep 
[18:22] <trender> wonder how much power a hotplate uses ?
[18:22] <trender> any ideas ?
[18:23] <inetpro> quite a lot I think
[18:24] <inetpro> for heat you need something like gas rather than battery power
[18:24] <trender> i shall need to look
[18:24] <__djo__> About 1200 watts
[18:25] <__djo__> I agree with inetpro, go for gas rather.
[18:25] <__djo__> Though I believe there's also a looking gas shortage.
[18:26] <trender> yea yea
[18:26] <trender> or get a gell stove ??
[18:26] <inetpro> __djo__: welcome to #ubuntu-za, you been here before?
[18:26] <trender> gell stoves are very cheap i think
[18:27] <__djo__> inetpro: Thanks. Popped in before, I think
[18:27] <inetpro> for emergencies I have a small gas burner or two
[18:27] <__djo__> Not in ages though
[18:28] <trender> yea we need something that can cook man
[18:28] <inetpro> a proper and permanent gas stove would be nice though
[18:28] <inetpro> nothing that beats the quick heat of a gas stove
[18:28] <__djo__> Bear in mind that the published schedules aren't final
[18:29] <trender> yea we prepping for the american flu
[18:29] <__djo__> Those are from '08 when the margin was smaller. 
[18:29] <__djo__> It's quite likely that the published frequency won't need to happen, so it'll be maybe twice a week rather than four days a week.
[18:29] <inetpro> trender: american flu?
[18:30] <trender> was and its nasty shockwaves
[18:30] <trender> war
[18:30] <trender> nice to have food when everyone else goes mad
[18:30] <trender> and the banks steal all yer cash
[18:30] <inetpro> yikes, you starting a rumour?
[18:31] <trender> nah man i dont want to prempt the war and be labled the terrorist on irc that made the banks collapse
[18:31] <inetpro> :-)
[18:32] <trender> just plaaning fo that scenrio
[18:32] <trender> planning to survive that junk
[18:32] <trender> guns food etc
[18:32] <inetpro> trender: where are you from?
[18:32] <trender> Durban
[18:32] <inetpro> ahh
[18:33] <inetpro> thought you are perhaps in the states
[18:33] <trender> we gonna feel the US shockwaves man
[18:33] <trender> we always do eventually
[18:34] <trender> gun sales and ammo are soaring in the US
[18:34] <trender> as they near towards civil unrest
[18:34] <inetpro> well you always have to be prepared but our scenario is very different, not saying it won't affect us
[18:34] <__djo__> As a counter-example, this isn't the first time these trends have happened in the US.
[18:35] <trender> okes are alos not trusting the banks anymore
[18:35] <__djo__> Very, very similar events during the early to mid '90s.
[18:35] <trender> you gonna wait till the banks take half yer cash ??
[18:36] <trender> hell no im 3 steps ahead of those clowns
[18:36] <__djo__> Be wise in your investments regardless of what trends you see.
[18:37] <inetpro> eish, all my investments were eaten up by the monkey
[18:37] <trender> okes are gonna come running to me for my R300 packs of smokes and R1000 bottles of whiskey
[18:38] <trender> bottle of whiskey will be worth a small car lol
[18:39] <trender> and dont get me started on the price of toilet paper :)
[18:40] <inetpro> I started with 5 chickens two years ago and had more than 20 just a few weeks ago, now back to just two grown ups and 7 small chicks
[18:40] <trender> hows that work man ??
[18:40] <trender> and whats this monkey you refer to ??
[18:40] <inetpro> damn monkey has been on a killing here
[18:41] <inetpro> for the last few weeks
[18:41] <trender> eish
[18:41] <trender> those things can be dangerous
[18:41] <inetpro> very clever dude even comes in broad daylight these days
[18:41] <trender> they rip yer face off if they cornered
[18:42] <trender> you need a gat and just blast his ass
[18:42] <inetpro> if only I can see him
[18:42] <trender> or get some baited beartraps
[18:42] <trender> make an example out of him
[18:42] <trender> leave him trapped and squeling to scare off all the others
[18:43] <trender> squeeling
[18:44] <trender> you dont want to startle those annimals
[18:44] <trender> my firnd was mauled by those things
[18:44] <trender> friend
[18:44] <trender> they try rip yer eyes out
[18:45] <trender> the big ones will rip yer arm off and beat you with it
[18:46] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[18:46] <trender> yo oom!
[18:46] <Kilos> evening all
[18:46] <trender> where you been man
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: is jy met ons?
[18:56] <Kilos> ja inetpro  net op hierdie masjien het ek nog nie klank op konversation nie
[18:57] <inetpro> ai!
[18:57] <inetpro> you make us worry man
[18:59] <inetpro> trender: you think he is ok?
[19:00] <inetpro> maybe he needs a bit of coffee?
[19:00] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[19:00]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: kry vir jou soveel as jy wil
[19:01] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[19:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[19:02] <Kilos> ty for worrying
[19:02] <Kilos> didnt know it would take so long
[19:02] <Kilos> sorry
[19:04] <trender> hullo
[19:04] <trender> yea yea some okes are ok
[19:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[19:05] <Kilos> Maaz: danke
[19:05] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[19:05] <inetpro> thanks Maaz
[20:13] <Kilos> chatty bunch here tonight
[20:35] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:36] <inetpro> Kilos: what happened?
[20:37] <Kilos> ask 8ta
[20:37] <Kilos> grrr
[20:37] <inetpro> you broke the interwebs again?
[20:37] <inetpro> or your machine
[20:37] <Kilos> lol
[20:37] <inetpro> ai!
[20:37] <Symmetria> holy crap, pairing my S4 with a windows machine over bluetooth, god there are a lot of drivers windows installs 
[20:38] <Kilos> no man my machine is working hard so im on old one
[20:38] <inetpro> Symmetria: why would you want to do that?
[20:38] <Symmetria> fast way to send files from the phone to the machine ;p
[20:38] <inetpro> Symmetria: airdroid
[20:40] <inetpro> Symmetria: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid
[20:41] <inetpro> Symmetria: oh and why would you even want windows on you machine?
[20:43]  * Symmetria installs airdroid
[20:43] <Symmetria> heh inetpro, photoshop, premiere, after effects
[20:43] <inetpro> ai!
[20:43] <Symmetria> all 3 of those kick the crap outta anything available under linux :)
[20:47] <Symmetria> btw thanks :)
[20:47] <Symmetria> airdroid is cool
[20:48] <Symmetria> heh inetpro a lot of people tell me you can use gimp instead of photoshop
[20:48] <Symmetria> but thats not really realistic, not with high end stuff
[20:48] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:48] <Symmetria> night kilos
[20:48] <inetpro> Kilos: good night
[20:50] <superfly> Depends on what you're doing and how well you know your tool. I use GIMP for the same things a lot of designers use Photoshop for. I can accomplish the same things they do.
[20:50] <superfly> I know the GIMP fairly well, and I don't know Photoshop at all, so I'd be hopeless using Photoshop instead of the GIMP.
[20:51] <superfly> anyway, I must also pack up for the night, it's been a busy weekend.
[20:51] <Symmetria> heh superfly Im mainly using it to clean up photos
[20:52] <Symmetria> ps has a TON of presets etc for every diferent type of lens I have 
[20:52] <Symmetria> and it works well with raw files
[20:52] <superfly> *shrug* I'd still use the GIMP because I know it better
[20:53] <Symmetria> yeah, Im just saying, in total raw power, once you know ps properly, its WAY more powerful