[00:00] <nubby> anyone able to help
[00:00] <nubby> or am i been ignored again
[00:00] <s3b`> Jordan_U: The thing is, on the other partition on this laptop I have no connectivity issues whatsoever
[00:00] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[00:00] <s3b`> do you want anything grep'd?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> nubby: You're not being ignored. If nobody knows the answer to your question, then nobody will answer.
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> nubby, If no one answers, don't default to you are being ignored, people answer if they know. ;)
[00:01] <mizifih> Dr_willis: looks like everything worked fine
[00:01] <Jordan_U> s3b`: No, I'll do the grepping as I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for yet :)
[00:01] <nubby> fair
[00:01] <s3b`> http://hastebin.com/medepoqeku.vhdl
[00:02] <nubby> sorry just really anoyyed cos i cant udnerstand why its happenign
[00:02] <nubby> seem liek my itnel cards havign a fit
[00:02] <s3b`> Future reference what does dmesg output :)?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Messages from the kernel.
[00:03] <s3b`> What's weirdin' me out is my xchat hasn't lost connection yet while everything else has
[00:05] <s3b`> Okay so i was wrong, i CAN ping my router. had the wrong IP
[00:05] <Bodsda> heh, doesn't help
[00:06] <LarsN> my kingdom for up to date information about using a displaylink usb monitor.
[00:07] <dibs> can anyone advise how to get ubuntu to open all ports on the lan?
[00:07] <Jordan_U> s3b`: IRC is surprisingly resilient, and the combination of being able to use a long lasting tcp connection and not needing to query DNS often often helps it last through a lot of networking issues.
[00:07] <Dr_willis> LarsN,  last i heard in here was they dident work with newer kernels. (not looked into them lately)
[00:07] <Bodsda> dibs: easiest method is to disable the firewall, althouth thats not recommended
[00:08] <Jordan_U> s3b`: At any point have you had trouble pinging 8.8.8.8?
[00:08] <dibs> Bodsda: I have and when I nmap the machine from my laptop I get all ports closed still
[00:08] <Jordan_U> dibs: Ubuntu doesn't block any ports by default (though there are also few ports listening for anything).
[00:08] <s3b`> Jordan_U: Nope that goes through even when my browsers won't load anything
[00:09] <Bodsda> dibs: not necessarily - maybe nothing is listening on those ports - not the same thing as being blocked
[00:09] <dibs> Bodsda: how can I determine if I can access a port remotely then?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Then everything is still pointing to DNS, and since xchat knows the ip address of the server you're connected to it doesn't ever need to do another DNS request for it.
[00:09] <Bodsda> dibs: telnet to it
[00:09] <Jordan_U> dibs: What is your end goal?
[00:10] <dibs> Just trying to get vnc, samba, daap etc working in my house
[00:10] <Dr_willis> dibs,  install the services and they should work on the local lan.
[00:11] <Dr_willis> unless you specifically have firewall rules blocking them
[00:12] <dibs> Dr_willis: I orginally set everything like that, and for years it has worked but something has changed and now it's like my boxed is firewalled on everythingn but port 22
[00:12] <mizifih> Jesus, just remembered, I need to set a sFTP server
[00:12] <mizifih> I'm a heavy torrent guy, what's the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> !best
[00:13] <Dr_willis> utorrent even has a linux port now. but it only has a web interface
[00:14] <mizifih> Dr_willis: webui FTW
[00:14] <ppcblaster> where can I get help with tarball driver install instead if being told to read mor things online that do not work, real help
[00:14] <s3b`> Jordan_U: Ever find anything of interest in my paste?
[00:15] <mizifih> I have used rutorrent, it was actually pretty cool, but a pain to setup
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> ppcblaster, This tar from someone right?
[00:15] <ppcblaster> qBittorrent
[00:15] <dibs> Dr_willis: I just telnet to my vnc port 5900 and it was unable to connect, timeout, any suggestions?
[00:15] <johnjohn1011> i wonder in utorrent will work in wine.  hmmm
[00:15] <heneusl_pay> Please I want an Ubuntu kernel with ipv6 removed.
[00:16] <Dr_willis> johnjohn1011,  it can. but it has a native linux port.
[00:16] <seronis> removed ?  o-0
[00:16] <mizifih> johnjohn1011: it's actually not good
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> heneusl_pay, You can disable it in grub.
[00:16] <mizifih> johnjohn1011: you rather go with linux clients
[00:16] <johnjohn1011> yeah I see it's in alpha
[00:16] <johnjohn1011> i just use transmission. works fine
[00:16] <mizifih> johnjohn1011: alpha port would probably work better then wine
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> heneusl_pay, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[00:17] <mizifih> Last time I heard you needed an old version to work with wine, like really dated
[00:18] <rypervenche> johnjohn1011: I would use qbittorrent, it is very very similar.
[00:18] <ppcblaster> yes from pcie card pve manufacturer written for my ubuntu 12.10 and I can't find a readme or install but make is in one of the folders, it is uncompressed, tried chmos ./configure nothing works I am missing something
[00:18] <ppcblaster> pvr
[00:18] <mizifih> rypervenche: similar to what?
[00:18] <rypervenche> mizifih: To utorrent, sorry.
[00:18] <mizifih> rypervenche: hum...
[00:18] <rypervenche> I made the switch and I haven't gone back.
[00:19] <mizifih> transmission is actually good, but I don't think it's suitable for heavy use
[00:19] <mizifih> like lots of torrents on queue
[00:20] <mizifih> LOL
[00:20] <mizifih> Youtube was not working properly on my computer when I was using Windows
[00:20] <mizifih> Now on ubuntu I can watch 720p
[00:20] <mizifih> LOL
[00:20] <rypervenche> mizifih: Move to Gentoo and you'll be able to watch 1080p :)
[00:20] <johnjohn1011> seriously?
[00:20] <mizifih> rypervenche: problem with windows was flash not using the GPU, I believe
[00:21] <s3b`> NetworkManager in sys/log: Does this mean anything: http://hastebin.com/gepecagini.xml
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> the world according to rypervenche
[00:22] <rypervenche> mizifih: I'm not going to actually get into, otherwise people here won't like it, but yeah. On my little EeePC I've only been able to watch 1080p videos with Gentoo. Done talking about it though ^^
[00:22] <mizifih> rypervenche: this setting is pretty similar to a EeePC, it's one of those APU
[00:22] <mizifih> ATI
[00:23] <mizifih> E350 with Radeon HD 6300
[00:23] <mizifih> pretty decent to surf, storage and regular stuff
[00:24] <benhelps> oin #drupal-support
[00:24] <mizifih> Except I'm using a SSD to make things a little faster
[00:24] <mizifih> make wonders!
[00:24] <johnjohn1011> ssd may be the best thing to happen to desktops in quite some time
[00:24] <Litecoin_Messiah> i lost my root pass but i have kvm axx can i reset it#/
[00:24] <johnjohn1011> how fast is ubuntu booting up with one?
[00:24] <Litecoin_Messiah> anyone/
[00:24] <Litecoin_Messiah> ?
[00:25] <supertough> eww E350
[00:25] <Dr_willis> my 13.04 box boots with ssd in less time then it takes me to walk to my chair and sit down. ;)
[00:25] <supertough> i'm running ubuntu 12.10 on ssd
[00:25] <mizifih> supertough: its basicaly being used for download, storage, web and watch my 720p TV with xbmc
[00:25] <mizifih> get the job done
[00:25] <supertough> boot about the same as windows 7
[00:26] <clakes> ugh
[00:26] <mizifih> And saved me some money with the electric bill, LOL
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> Litecoin_Messiah, root or user password in lsb_release -a
[00:26] <mizifih> Like a lot
[00:26] <mizifih> I still have my gaming PC
[00:26] <nubby> arg no one is active in bumblebee
[00:26] <nubby> but i have found sumamt else out
[00:27] <nubby> lspci -vk is saying my nvidia car has !!! Unknown header type 7f
[00:27] <felon> high
[00:27] <mizifih> low
[00:27] <Litecoin_Messiah> wilee-nilee, its a remote server i only got kvm
[00:27] <johnjohn1011> wilee-nilee:  no lsb modules are available
[00:28] <SunStar> are there network cards that require 64bit?  i upgraded a Dell Inspiron from 12.04 to 13.04 n now theres no WiFi, I installed the recommended STA driver through Software Updater but i stills gots no wifi
[00:28] <mizifih> supertough: I'm using SSD on 13.04, boot faster then Win7 here
[00:28] <johnjohn1011> mizifih: how fast?
[00:28] <SunStar> wifi worked on 12.04 64bit, not working on 13.04 32bit
[00:28] <mizifih> johnjohn1011: srsly, seconds LOL
[00:29] <mizifih> bios info takes like three times more
[00:29] <mizifih> hehehe
[00:29] <mizifih> and them comes grub
[00:29] <mizifih> after grub, it takes like ten seconds
[00:29] <azi`> i still cannot make any update or significant download since it says that the network is unreachable
[00:29] <mizifih> but my system is pretty clean
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> SunStar, 64 to 32 bit is not a upgrade but a fresh install, run lspci i  terminal and identify wifi.
[00:29] <azi`> is there any way I could debug this issue
[00:29] <azi`> or at least conclude its a day of heavy traffic for ubuntu
[00:30] <SunStar> yeah i did, wilee-nilee
[00:30] <SunStar> semantics  >_<
[00:30] <seronis> why install an OS version that doesnt match your hardware ?
[00:31] <mizifih> I've been using 64-bit since I can't remember
[00:31] <mizifih> even windows
[00:31] <SunStar> just a test run on a thumbdrive before i commit to 13.04
[00:31] <mizifih> SunStar: I just finish setting mine
[00:32] <johnjohn1011> still running 32 bit here.  upgraded from 10.10 -> 12.04
[00:32] <mizifih> SunStar: just sFTP, sickbeard and ZNC to get it done
[00:32] <SunStar> any way i just wanna rule that possibility out. do some WNICS require 64bit drivers?
[00:32] <azi`> 101 Network is Unreachable this is the error code that I am getting :/
[00:32] <cyberman> hi all
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> SunStar So you have done nothing really.
[00:32] <cyberman> i need some help
[00:32] <mizifih> I don't recommend 32-bit, even if you don't have 4Gb RAM
[00:33] <cyberman> mpow im using ubuntu 12.04 from  live cd - my HDD is dead
[00:33] <cyberman> so i need to know jhow can I restart X11 server with normal configuration of Unity 3D?
[00:33] <SunStar> i ran lspci say it listed, looking up the result to see if it works, internet claims its compatible with 12 (which i already know) and i installed the STA driver from Additional Drivers
[00:33] <azi`> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (32.1.6.124)]
[00:33] <azi`> is this the proper IP
[00:34] <azi`> 32.1.6.124 for ubuntu's archives?
[00:34] <cyberman> \join #ubuntu-ru
[00:34] <johnjohn1011> sunstar what is your wifi?
[00:34] <SunStar> about to go back to working on it, just wanted to get that 1 question answered, does 32bit VS. 64bit OS matter for broadcom wifi adapter
[00:34] <SunStar> ill get back to ya in a bit when im in front of the machine
[00:34] <johnjohn1011> sunstar uninstall the sta and put back the b43 driver. I had the same issue
[00:36] <Dr_willis> cyberman,  see if for a newly made user - if unity3d works for them.
[00:36] <johnjohn1011> sunstar remove bcmwl-kernel-source   and then reload the firmware-b43-installer
[00:36] <Dr_willis> cyberman,  if it does. then you can remove whatever .config/setting files in the problem users home may be cuasing the issues
[00:37] <cyberman> Dr_willis i\m using Live CD
[00:37] <cyberman> my HDD is dead
[00:37] <cyberman> so there is the task:
[00:37] <cyberman> relaunch X11 after drivers installed
[00:38] <cyberman> with workable Unity
[00:38] <SunStar> i wouldnt use unity if u dont have a hard drive
[00:39] <Dr_willis> cyberman,  you are installing the drivers On a Live cd?
[00:39] <johnjohn1011> cyberman, if you could boot into a terminal and do startx, that would work but i haven't done that for years.
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> cyberman, Might be easier with a usb and persistence.
[00:39] <SunStar> ^
[00:39] <Dr_willis> or do you mean a live-USB >
[00:39] <SunStar> or install to a USB thumbdrive
[00:39] <Dr_willis> you can do a full install to a usb flash drive and install stuff like you would to a HD installed system
[00:39] <cyberman> i mean Live CD
[00:40] <johnjohn1011> is it possible to boot a live cd to the terminal and do a startx?  just curious.
[00:40] <Dr_willis> installing extra drivers on a live-cd i imagine are not going to work.
[00:40] <cyberman> now i have cd only
[00:40] <Dr_willis> ive had a hard time getting nvidia drivers working on a Live-USB in the past.. not tried it recently.
[00:41] <SunStar> you will need something you can format as ext2 to run as your persistence if you wanna run from CD
[00:41] <SunStar> i have done it, its possble, at least with ati
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> kernel changes are a bit tough on a live usb
[00:42] <SunStar> yeah i say ur better off doing a fresh install onto a thumbdrive
[00:42] <anew> anything good like top i can use for monitoring
[00:42] <cyberman> i need to restart server fully
[00:42] <anew> what do u guys use mainly
[00:42] <rafaelloest> Hi guys. I need help from you guys.
[00:42] <johnjohn1011> can't he hit some keys to stop the x session and go to terminal?
[00:42] <cyberman> just restart x11 with unity
[00:43] <cyberman> now i installing latest nvidia drivers
[00:43] <rafaelloest> My laptop is (from factory) Win 8. I had a BSoD loop with it and while i was waiting for my recovery disk, i decided to install ubuntu. Well, i resized the HD, installed (advanced mode) and then, installed a update. Well, after that, I had a problem. Decided to re-install Ubuntu, made the mistake to allow it to erase ALL my HD. Now i am trying to recover my personal data. Using Testdisk, i can find the partitions (all ones) but d
[00:43] <johnjohn1011> cyberman what happens in the live cd if you logout?
[00:44] <cyberman> hmm...
[00:44] <cyberman> trying to log out, then wait some time and then...
[00:44] <cyberman> ok
[00:44] <cyberman> drivers are installed
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> rafaelloest, Call the manufactuere and get the oem reinstall discs
[00:45] <rafaelloest> i have them, but i need to recover my personal data first...
[00:45] <cyberman> there need to restart whole x11 server
[00:45] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Your message was cut off at "i can find the partitions (all ones) but d".
[00:46] <Dr_willis> on a live cd - he could try 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[00:46] <rafaelloest> i can find the partitions (all ones) but dont know what to do.
[00:46] <cyberman> thx
[00:46] <Rallias> Is there a reason my computer's webcam receives power momentarily while it's booting up on ubuntu?
[00:46] <lolbat> Rallias: it is just Linus Thorvald taking a picture of you
[00:46] <rafaelloest> dont know if i can post link, but if i can, i cant take a screenshot of the screen i am and put a link here
[00:47] <Rallias> rafaelloest, Go for it.
[00:47] <johnjohn1011> cybermon: i found this  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-i-enabled-nvidias-drivers-in-ubuntu-9-10-livecd-and-restarted-x-767352/
[00:47] <Rallias> lolbat, I don't appreciate that sort of joke.
[00:47] <johnjohn1011> i sort of remember doing this a while back.   you to an init 3 in a command window as root and then when you get to the terminal, you do an init 5
[00:48] <Thorby> oo I missed something
[00:48] <rafaelloest> ok, 1 sec. sending it to this PC and uploading it
[00:49] <anew> is there a way to top only by specific process name?
[00:50] <rafaelloest> here: http://uploadnow.org/image/346806-ubuntu_err.jpeg
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Rallias,  i imagine its the module getting loaded
[00:51] <BHXSpecter> what does it mean when apt-get says apt-extracttemplates no such file or directory and can see it in /usr/bin ? o.O
[00:51] <MonkeyDust> anew  htop is more interactive
[00:52] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: your time is wrong
[00:52] <rafaelloest> i am using a live USB
[00:53] <rafaelloest> (i am not in the installed version)
[00:53] <rafaelloest> my BSoD loop started before the ubuntu.
[00:53] <smith_wesson> Okay
[00:55] <betrayd> Rallias: it does a quick chek if something is (connected) there
[00:55] <Rallias> hmm...
[00:55] <anew> if i ctl-C out of htop does that close it or is it still running ?
[00:56] <betrayd> same with keyboard + mouse Rallias
[00:56] <betrayd> But its quick though
[00:56] <rafaelloest> guys? Anybody?
[00:56] <betrayd> what do you mean all 1's
[00:57] <Dr_willis> ctrl-c normally kills a cli app
[00:58] <CyberMan> ok
[00:58] <CyberMan> im back
[00:59] <rafaelloest> Still dont knowing what to do...
[01:00] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: about what
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> rafaelloest, I would try the ##windows channel as it is a windows recovery, they may have some ideas.
[01:01] <CyberMan> there is problem: after I restart the serevr, Welcom window appeared. OK. Top bar is shown. Ok. When I trying to push "Try ubuntu" buttin - desktop loaded. But without top bar and dashboard
[01:01] <rafaelloest> Well, the windows is not the problem, the problem is the data. (and i can only acess the HD by ubuntu).
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> rafaelloest, You overwrote the ntfs, how long did you run ubuntu if at all?
[01:01] <CyberMan> So there only 2 shortcuts - examples and install
[01:02] <kaveh> hai guise
[01:02] <rafaelloest> wilee-nilee. I just booted it.
[01:03] <rafaelloest> When i saw it i turned it off and booted the live USB
[01:03] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Allow testdisk to write the new parition table out and see what data you can access (but mount the ntfs partition read only).
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> rafaelloest, Problem here is that nobody seems to have a fix for you here now, may not be one from linux and testdisk per-say, I would talk with windows users just to have more info is all.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> there are recovery tools specifically for windows
[01:04] <rafaelloest> Jordan_U, how i can do this?
[01:04] <OerHeks> did you try the L option, load backup ( if there is a shadow)
[01:04] <rafaelloest> wilee, i dont have acess to windows
[01:05] <betrayd> but didn't you say you can see the data (all 1's) whatever that means
[01:05] <rafaelloest> OerHeks. None of then have backup.
[01:06] <rafaelloest> i can see the old partitions
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> rafaelloest, Yes, but I suspect live a live disc to run testdisc there are windows recovery apps from a live disc or bootable disc. I would just look for more options is all.
[01:06] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: you can download demo windows to use for few days.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> like*
[01:07] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Try selecting a partition that you want to recover and press 'A'.
[01:07] <rafaelloest> the problem is that i dont have a external HD. (right now)
[01:07] <rafaelloest> [i need to put i in the HD (for some time)...
[01:08] <betrayd> rafaelloest: are these files too large for a USB stick
[01:08] <rafaelloest> i need to change from D to something else or i can leave them there?
[01:08] <rafaelloest> too much files...
[01:08] <betrayd> ok
[01:08] <rafaelloest> (made the mistake of leaving to much important things together)
[01:08] <betrayd> understood (been there)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Always have backups of important files.
[01:09] <rafaelloest> Jordan. Now i know...
[01:09] <betrayd> was thinking gparted could copy the partition
[01:10] <rafaelloest> gparted dont see these partitions...
[01:10] <rafaelloest> just the actual one...
[01:10] <rafaelloest> (the one that i made the mistake to let ubuntu make...)
[01:10] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: you have hard drive now
[01:10] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: The most sane way to recover these files is by copying them to another drive. Can you get another drive?
[01:11] <rafaelloest> now i cant...
[01:11] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Can you wait to recover the files / use the computer (other than via LiveUSB) until you can?
[01:11] <rafaelloest> in 2 days (06/05) i will
[01:11] <betrayd>  so you had begun the ubuntu install, than cancelled somewhere after partitions were created and others erased?
[01:12] <rafaelloest> i dont want to use the computer because i am afraid of fucking up (again)
[01:12] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Please watch your language.
[01:12] <rafaelloest> bretayd, no. I dont cancelled. I just saw this after it installed.
[01:12] <rafaelloest> Jordan. Sorry.
[01:13] <Biomechd> is it possible to re-enable the shortcut keys at the top of my keyboard? the ones for adjusting brightness and sound and such? i don't want to have to keep adjusting it in the system settings.
[01:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to check if you have any kde runtime dependent apps installed in xfce? I should like to make a clean sweep of mah system.
[01:13] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: you claim you dont have windows how did you partitions end up ntfs
[01:13] <rafaelloest> It came from factory with Windows 8 installed.
[01:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> Biomechd: check your bios, there is at times a setting there
[01:13] <rafaelloest> I dont have it now.
[01:14] <Biomechd> ntzrmtthihu777: can i do that without rebooting my laptop?
[01:14] <rafaelloest> the ubuntu installation erased it...
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, In playing around are desktop lists up to 12.10 as of now. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[01:14] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Then wait until you have another drive. Testdisk has multiple options for recovering files from "deleted" partitions, some of which will just dump files and others which will change the partition table and let you try to mount it. What you choose depends on how badly corrupted the filesystem is (from having been partially overwritten by another FS) and how selective you want to be in the files you save.
[01:14] <zackiv31> anyone here familiar with ruby or FSEvent? having issues under ubuntu: https://gist.github.com/zivester/5519099
[01:15] <rafaelloest> is possible to save everything possible?
[01:15] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: what are you trying to recover then. Windows8!
[01:15] <rafaelloest> the data. the os i can recover after...
[01:15] <rafaelloest> the most important is the data
[01:16] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Yes (for a somewhat lose definition of "possible").
[01:16] <rafaelloest> now i just care about the data. My personal data...
[01:16] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: data like personal files.
[01:16] <rafaelloest> Jordan. Everything tesdisk can.
[01:16] <betrayd> so try not to touch it in the meantime?
[01:17] <rafaelloest> Yes. Music, photos, projects, etc
[01:17] <johnjohn1011> rafaelloest: are you using a partition recovery program?
[01:17] <rafaelloest> betrayd. Exact what i am doing.
[01:17] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: can you mount the partition where data is
[01:17] <rafaelloest> John. Testdisk (live Ubuntu 13.04)
[01:18] <rafaelloest> no, it is a deleted partition...
[01:18] <rafaelloest> (by what Testdisk tells)
[01:18] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Yes. Understand that there are two ways that testdisk can try to recover files though, via restoring the parititon table and reading from the FS and by basically grepping for files byte by byte ignoring the filesystem. If you do both then you'll get duplicates of a lot of files (and with the photorec grepping stategy you might not get filenames).
[01:19] <rafaelloest> if the photos are recovered, filenames i can do it manually,
[01:19] <johnjohn1011> rafaelloest: did you try this http://www.vimxsoft.com/partition-recovery/
[01:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: I've just installed a package or two (then removed) that used kde. I just needa know if there is a way to tell if any app you have requires the kde libs
[01:20] <rafaelloest> john. Not yet.
[01:20] <rafaelloest> is usb/cd/dvd bootable?
[01:20] <rafaelloest> or i have to install it?
[01:21] <Jordan_U> johnjohn1011: rafaelloest: It looks like that tool doesn't do anything that testdisk can't, and Testdisk is Free, has a good reputation, and is available for GNU/Linux.
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Not sure to be honest.
[01:21] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: you can download windows while running ubuntu live. Burn to dvd then reinstall windowz. Then like someone else said. Use windows recoveryprogrsm
[01:22] <johnjohn1011> no problem jordan_u: I will follow along
[01:22] <rafaelloest> Smith. I dont want to mess with the HD. I know that there is a limit that can be recovered.
[01:22] <smith_wesson> rafaelloest: use serial for windowd on sticker on side machine to re register windows
[01:22] <rafaelloest> i cant boot windows...
[01:23] <betrayd> the disks you got from oem, are they recovery discs that search for rescue partition?
[01:23] <Biomechd> urg. i told unsettings i want my dash to go back to autohide after resetting last night (unity decided to crash the panel and the dash after giving me some login issues) and it's not autohiding.
[01:23]  * wilee-nilee thinks someone needs to unload the smith_wesson 
[01:23] <johnjohn1011> rafaelloest: why don't you buy another hard drive, reload windows on that and then see if that exe can find those deleted partitions
[01:23] <rafaelloest> no. i have a driver disc and a system disc.
[01:23] <betrayd> ok
[01:24] <johnjohn1011> rafaelloest:  did you check geek squad to see what they might say? worth a shot.
[01:24] <rafaelloest> i am more inclined to use testdisk... it sems better.
[01:24] <rafaelloest> geek squad? who?
[01:25] <johnjohn1011> best buy or some other disk recovery professional
[01:25] <rafaelloest> in a Sunday?
[01:25] <Biomechd> rafaelloest: the geek squad is a tech support company who will come out to your house and fix your tv or other electronic if you need them to. or you can call and get help over the phone.
[01:26] <rafaelloest> i dont they can help me where i live...
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> Biomechd, Have you rebooted since the havoc?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> Or  you go find some young kid :)
[01:26] <rafaelloest> i dont think*
[01:26] <johnjohn1011> do you have any back up harddrive
[01:26] <rafaelloest> i wish i had...
[01:27] <johnjohn1011> so this is a one time shot, if you screw up, it's curtains right?
[01:27] <shape> Dr_willis: got a new 3TB HDD for storage (personal files, media, etc.) However I do use Windows to dual boot as well. I was thinking of Partitioning the entire 3TB in ext4, but I am afraid it might bite me back in the long run. Any thoughts?
[01:27] <tocsick> hey my mousewheel scrolling is jumpy. What can i do to fix this? It just started after one of the recent updates about a month ago.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> if you had a spare HD. you could 'dd' the bad hd to the spare. then try to recovery the original
[01:27] <rafaelloest> yes... this is why i want some help.
[01:27] <Biomechd> wilee-nilee: i've fixed the crashed unity panel/dash already. i just can't get the dash to autohide. and i'm still having an issue with the hotkeys at the top of my keyboard not working.
[01:27] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: If you come back in a few days with your new HD to backup to I can walk you through using testdisk to recover your files.
[01:27] <rafaelloest> i will buy a exeternal HD.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> shape,  depends on what you are keeping on the hd. and if you want to accessit from windows.  If so. use ntfs
[01:28] <johnjohn1011> dr_willis: good advice
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> Biomechd, Compiz needs a reload at times, a reboot can do this easiest, have you done that?
[01:28] <shape> Dr_willis: yeah :(, but NTFS fragmentation for 3TB, that's why I was considering ext4
[01:28] <rafaelloest> Jordan_U. What are the times you are on? (in UTC ?)
[01:28] <shape> Dr_willis: imagine defragmenting that... :(
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> shape, above 2 tb is gpt
[01:28] <tocsick> hey my mousewheel scrolling is jumpy. Does anyone know what package handles mouse input so I can maybe try a backport?
[01:29] <rafaelloest> UTC 0*
[01:29] <johnjohn1011> why not partition it up and then use mount to load the partitions?  useless you need it all in one partition.
[01:29] <Biomechd> wilee-nilee: so rebooting will fix the dash issue, but i've rebooted my laptop several times since the hotkeys decided to crash again and they haven't been re-enabled.
[01:29] <iBelieve> I'm interested in running multiple linux distros and Windows in VMs. What is the fastest method that is recommended for the desktop? I don't care how easy it is to set up or use.
[01:29] <shape> wilee-nilee: Yeah but how would that affect me?
[01:29] <andygraybeal_> hey guys, i got 12.04 and a kernel dependency problem, i have a newer kernel and 'linux-generic' depends on an older kernel.  specifically: linux-generic depends on linux-image-generic (3.2.0.37.44) however the version of linux-image-generic is 3.2.0.41.49 ... how do i break out of this?  i can't install anything :(
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> shape, You have to work within that framework is all.
[01:30] <rafaelloest> john. This will mess with the HD.  i really dont want do that... (too scared)
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Biomechd, Not sure of any definitive fixes.
[01:30] <varun_> tocsick, usually psmouse
[01:31] <jiangfuqiao> help
[01:31] <tocsick> varun thanks
[01:31] <brian____> rafaelloest, I'm way to late into this, but have you considered using like redobackup and making an image of the disk as it stands now, so you can always go back to it?  Ignore me, if this has been covered...
[01:31] <jiangfuqiao> 中文
[01:31] <johnjohn1011> rafaelloest: that was for someone else.  yeah, i would follow that advice. clone to another hd and then have an expert walk you through
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> shape, I would guess that you have hd's tied together is all.
[01:31] <varun_> pleasure!
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> !cn | Varazir
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> varun_, ^^^^
[01:31] <Biomechd> wilee-nilee: i can use the f1-f12 on those keys (as their secondary function), but i can't use the primary functions.
[01:32] <rafaelloest> redobackup?
[01:32] <rafaelloest> if i can do image of 1TB disk in a 1TB external disk, i can try.
[01:32] <brian____> http://redobackup.org/ it works amazingly well, free, easy to use linux backup solution
[01:32] <shape> wilee-nilee: wait, what do you mean by that I'm not that familiar with GUID, what I thought was just fire up parted and create the 3TB NTFS parition. And then I'd be done. Is there more to that?
[01:32] <varun_> wilee-nilee, ??
[01:33] <rafaelloest> (1TB external is the one i can buy)
[01:33] <tocsick> varun, I don't have psmouse installed, also can't find the package at all
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> varun_, sorry meant to point the foriegn language info at jiangfuqiao
[01:33] <brian____> rafaelloest, the image will only be the size of the data you're trying to backup.  1tb disk with 500gb will create a 500gb image
[01:33] <varun_> guessed that :) wilee-nilee
[01:33] <rafaelloest> ah.
[01:34] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: I'm not certain, but Monday and Tuesday likely 19:00 to 4:00 (the next "morning").
[01:34] <johnjohn1011> rafaelloest: sounds good to me.  and you get a 1tb hard drive out of it!!
[01:34] <varun_> tocsick, let's see your pastebin link to output of lsmod then..
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> shape, I would just be wary myself, however I am not familiar with gpt, and tied HD's, maybe it is as easy as you describe.
[01:34] <rafaelloest> but brian, will this program save the "deleted" partitions too?
[01:35] <tocsick> varun http://pastebin.com/5ByXLkke
[01:35] <brian____> rafaelloest, ahh sorry, I may have missed that part, just sat down at my computer.  I think it will only backup partitions it sees.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: If you use dd you can make a full image of the drive.
[01:36] <brian____> it includes parted and some other utils that might help you
[01:36] <brian____> or you could use it as a live cd to use dd
[01:36] <rafaelloest> dd?
[01:36] <Biomechd> well i suppose i'll reboot and see what's different
[01:37] <varun_> tocsick, you do have psmouse in there.
[01:37] <shape> wilee-nilee: yeah, I remember when installing Gentoo they talked about larger than 2TB and  all you have to do extra is mklabel gtp http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?chap=4&part=1#parted
[01:37] <tocsick> varun, lol, i saw it once I had posted the pastebin link. What's the name of the package though? I can't find psmouse or ps-mouse, etc in synapitc
[01:37] <johnjohn1011> will clonezilla work for rafaelloest   i just used it to clone a drive and it was dirt simple (my kind of program)
[01:38] <rafaelloest> What is DD?
[01:38] <brian____> rafaelloest, it can be used for cloning, 'dd if/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32M' if is the source, of is the target
[01:38] <Dr_willis> im not sure clonezilla will work right with a drive hes trying to recovery.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> hes sort of un-deleteing it ;)
[01:38] <johnjohn1011> just asking.  dd sounds like the best way
[01:38] <OerHeks> johnjohn1011, clonezilla will work with valid partitions
[01:38] <wangchong> rafael, are you wanting to backup a parti whose parti info was deleted?
[01:39] <varun_> tocsick, it is built in kernel driver, comes with the kernel itself. You seem to be using usbhid as well, it is usually for usb mouse
[01:39] <shape> brian____: But if you use that command and you have let's say 400GB to clone, will it show some progress bar? I'm sure that will take hours/.
[01:39] <rafaelloest> what is dd?
[01:39] <johnjohn1011> doesn't rafaelloest have to create the partitions on the external hdd first?
[01:39] <wangchong> rafael, brian, using dd will require all the unused space for a total of 1TB
[01:39] <johnjohn1011> dd is a way to copy partitions
[01:39] <rafaelloest> wangchong: trying to undelet it.
[01:39] <OerHeks> !info dd
[01:40] <OerHeks> duhh
[01:40] <Jordan_U> johnjohn1011: No, they can save the disk image as a file on another filesystem.
[01:40] <brian____> shape,  I would expect it to run over night but top could give you status, not position really... 'watch vmstat -d'
[01:40] <tocsick> varun, yeah it's a usb mouse I've having problems with. The scroll wheel response is jumpy (rapid up and down when you're only scrolling in one direction). Consistent in every app I run. If I use e-17 the problem stops, but I don't want to use e-17 as my window manager
[01:41] <rafaelloest> wanchong, well i will have a clen 1TB external HD.
[01:41] <wangchong> rafaelloest: do you remember its old boundaries?
[01:42] <wangchong> also use dump, dd takes forever
[01:42] <brian____> wangchong, yes, my previous recommendation was to create an image using a seperate tool, which wouldn't work in his case.
[01:42] <wangchong> dump only makes something the size of used data
[01:42] <rafaelloest> no (relatively new to ubuntu)
[01:42] <wangchong> dump probably wont work either if parti table messed up
[01:42] <varun_> tocsick, there is a command that can let you get/set every aspect of a pointer device, can't remember its name though (used only once a few days ago).
[01:42] <Jordan_U> wangchong: This is for an ntfs filesystem, and one whose partiton has been deleted and partially overwritten, making dump not really a viable option.
[01:43] <rafaelloest> i dont care it takes forever. If it recover my personal data its ok for me.
[01:43] <wangchong> my bad
[01:44] <wangchong> if you can remember old boundaries you can use fdisk to redefine partis
[01:44] <tocsick> varun is it tpconfig?
[01:44] <shape> brian____: but clonezilla would give you some progress bar correct?
[01:44] <wangchong> or you could brute force boundaries and try to mount, maybe script that
[01:44] <Jordan_U> wangchong: We already have found the boundaries using testdisk.
[01:45] <brian____> shape, I'm not familiar with clonezilla, but redoback does, I assume clonezilla would as well.  However, I don't know what it does to create the image, it might use dump.
[01:45] <Biomechd> wilee-nilee: dash still won't autohide.
[01:45] <shape> brian____: and why would that be bad?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> Biomechd, I have no real answer here.
[01:45] <wangchong> then can you plug them into fdisk and make that problem go away?
[01:46] <wangchong> the boundary info
[01:46] <brian____> well, dump is byte by byte, and creates an image but is going to need a valid partition table, where dd isn't going to care
[01:46] <Biomechd> oh well. i'll just have to get used to having my blender workspace reduced somewhat for a while.
[01:46] <wangchong> but you gonna have to care sometime, like when you want to use the parti
[01:46] <varun_> tocsick, recalled it - "xinput --set-prop" (already remembered xinput, lol). But take a careful look at man xinput first
[01:47] <shape> brian____: I see :)
[01:47] <Biomechd> if anyone comes up with a solution to either of my problems, let me know. i'll be working on stuff in blender.
[01:47] <wangchong> dump is block level copy
[01:49] <rafaelloest> dump do not copy byte per byte correct?
[01:49] <wangchong> but it still needs valid parti like you said
[01:49] <varun_> tocsick, for example, 'xinput' command gives my touchpad id as '11'. Then I can use 'xinput --list-props 11' to see its settings that I can set with '--set-prop'
[01:50] <wangchong> can't you use fdisk to save parti boundaries like you know them, save it, check if it mounts, then use clonezilla or dump or whatever?
[01:50] <Treaver> Hello
[01:51] <tocsick> thanks varun, I'll get this figured out. It's driving me crazy
[01:51] <Treaver> I need help
[01:51] <scarecrow_> I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) wifi adapter that worked with 12.xx, not working under 13.04. can i get some help with it? i in additional drivers there was a mention of it not working and recommended i install the STA driver. after reboot, still no WiFi
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> !Broadcom| scarecrow_ Have you looked here.
[01:51] <rosco_y> Is anyone else experiencing extremely high CPU usage after the last 12.04.2 kernel updates?
[01:53] <lolbat> What is the best way to remove duplicate images?
[01:53] <rosco_y> I switched from 12.10 to LTS for the stability a while ago, and have been really pleased with that move.
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: if they are literal digital duplicates fdupes is wonderful.
[01:53] <rosco_y> lolbat: can you explain your situation a bit more?
[01:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: if they only *look* the same, then no. Unless of course you are not talking about literal image files XD
[01:54] <brian____> rafaelloest, if it were me, I would get another 1tb drive, dd the disks, unplug one, and then try whatever someone smarter than I would recommend.  I just want you to have what you have now.  I so very often think I'm making a small change, and it causes me hours of work.  So I'm extremely pro backup at the moment...
[01:55] <iBelieve> I'm trying to choose virtualization software for a laptop. Should I choose Xen or KVM? I'm planning on running various Linux distros and Windows.
[01:55] <lolbat> rosco_y: I have like, 50k images in random folders, some of those images are the same exact file with diffrent names
[01:56] <compdoc> iBelieve, what will you do with windows?
[01:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: sudo apt-get install fdupes
[01:56] <Guest34570> FUCK YALL UBUNTU SUCKS
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Treaver, Outline the problem for the channel.
[01:56] <brian____> iBelieve, Do you ever plan on having a standard boot OS?
[01:56] <lolbat> ntzrmtthihu777: it works on folders?
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> ~matthew@c-98-201-37-15.hsd1.tx.comcast.net
[01:56] <lolbat> ntzrmtthihu777: like recursive
[01:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: Then run fdupes -R -dn . from the top layer folder.
[01:57] <iBelieve> compdoc, run some programming software and such. No games at all.
[01:57] <rosco_y> lolbat: check on the web, but I think digikam will search for duplicates, and allow you to delete them--although it might be a tedious, manual process (I've never actually used it--I've seen it somewhere)
[01:57] <lolbat> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks, that saves me a lot of time
[01:57] <compdoc> iBelieve, is video speed important?
[01:57] <iBelieve> brian____, what do you mean? My main OS installed on the laptop is Ubuntu.
[01:57] <lolbat> digikam is a pretty hoirrble piece of software except from for tagging faces
[01:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: yup. I ran it and killed 20gb of pdf's to 11
[01:58] <britton> asdasd
[01:58] <lolbat> ntzrmtthihu777: what does it do to the duplicates?
[01:58] <lolbat> rm?
[01:58] <rafaelloest> thanks for the help guys. I will enter here again when i have the External HD.
[01:58] <rosco_y> lolbat: I'm not what you call a digikam user, but I've noticed that google's picassa blows digicams face recognition out of the water
[01:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: I suppose that would be what it does, the -d flag delets and -n does it without asking permission. if you don't do -n it askes what you want to keep from each set.
[01:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> so if you have 5 identical images, you can choose which of the 5 you want to keep, 1 or more.
[01:59] <lolbat> the point is to just have one of each, I assume it will result in empty folders tho
[02:00] <iBelieve> compdoc, Not really sure. I won't be running software that displays a lot of graphics or videos, but I would like the VM to not be jerky for regular usage.
[02:00] <rtcg72a> hi, how can I upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 13.04 from the update manager?
[02:00] <rosco_y> I"m thinking of switching from 12.04 LTS to 12.10 or 13.04.  Does anyone have recommendations--should I clean install or upgrade?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> rtcg72a, Through 12.10
[02:00] <lolbat> rosco_y: I prefer clean installs once in a while
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolbat: yeah, it can, depending on how the images are arranged. -R -nd will delete all but one, no clue as to the choosing algorhythm
[02:01] <iBelieve> compdoc, I've run Ubuntu in VirtualBox before, and with no apps running in it, it tends to be jerky and slow, which I don't want.
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> rosco_y: clean install if you must, stick with precise till raring settles a bit is my advice.
[02:01] <rtcg72a> wilee-nilee: so I have to upgrade to 12.10 then upgrade to 13.04?
[02:01] <rosco_y> lolbat: I agree too, it's nice to have a clean slate.
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> rtcg72a: yup. you can go directly between lts versions, however.
[02:01] <compdoc> iBelieve, Ive been using KVM for years. I used Xen before that. With kvm, you install doing this simple thing:   sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm qemu-system-x86 virt-manager
[02:02] <lolbat> rosco_y: copying settings is also easy
[02:02] <rosco_y> I actually backed off of 12.10 to 12.04 awhile back, for stability reasons.
[02:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> rtcg72a: so you can go lucid > precise > 14.04
[02:02] <compdoc> rosco_y, I did that too. I find 13.04 is pretty good tho
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> rtcg72a, From the update manager yes, overall I believe as well, a fresh install though with a saved dpkg list of the 12.04 and any 3rd party repos will have you set if the 3rd parties are releasing 13.04 stuff.
[02:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> rtcg72a: (not that 14.04 exists yet)
[02:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> !cloning | rtcg72a
[02:03] <rosco_y> compdoc: ty.  maybe I'll give that a try.  the last kernel upgrade in 12.04 is giving my CPU a workout.  I'm pretty sure they'd get it fixed if I patiently waited...but that doesn't sound much like me.
[02:04] <tshauck> hi... I'm trying to use input, however whenever I try to hit enter, it's sending ^M instead of enter.  How can I fix this?
[02:04] <brian____> iBelieve, I was just wondering on your workload, like if you planned on using the VMs for your entire workflow, or if you were planning on using it more sporadically
[02:04] <iBelieve> compdoc, Is there a significant speed difference between Xen and KVM? I don't really care how hard it is to set up, as long as it isn't too hard to screw things up and make the system unbootable.
[02:04] <compdoc> iBelieve, I think the speed is the same, but xen requires a modded kernel that gets installed
[02:05] <iBelieve> brian____, Mostly Ubuntu, just the VMs when I want to tinker with a different distro or run a Windows-only program.
[02:05] <Dr_willis> tshauck,  clarify what you mean by 'use input'  ^m is ctrl-m which is the enter key. ;)
[02:05] <brian____> iBelieve, I rarely virtualize on my laptop, so I have virtualbox here since its dead simple and run a seperate esxi host for full time use
[02:06] <iBelieve> compdoc, So if speed is the same, is there any other major reason to choose Xen instead of KVM, since KVM is easy to set up?
[02:06] <compdoc> iBelieve, you'll need to ask a xen expert. Be interesting to know
[02:08] <iBelieve> compdoc, brian____ I'll probably just use KVM. Thanks for your help!
[02:09] <zivester> anyone know how to debug being kicked back to X Login screen?
[02:09] <brian____> iBelieve, sorry, I don't have any more input.  I do know that people choose xen for stability reasons.  I have no idea if that is valid or not, but if you're not running vm's for hours on end, I wouldn't think it would matter even if it were true.
[02:09] <andygraybeal_> i think i'm in update hell ;(  i have a newer kernel than what my kernel says it depends on.. and now nothing updates, please help :)
[02:10] <compdoc> iBelieve, once you install, you have to log out, then back in
[02:11] <iBelieve> compdoc, Yep, I've seen the instructions on help.ubuntu.com/community.
[02:12] <iBelieve> compdoc, I've been using an LVM partition for data. Would I get better performance using LVM partions for the OS virtual storage, and is this even possible?
[02:13] <compdoc> iBelieve, I use a seperate, fast drive to put the VM files on
[02:13] <Treaver> How do I remove the grub menu completely and use the Windows 8 Menu
[02:13] <iBelieve> brian____, Thanks for the info. It's nice to know stuff like that.
[02:14] <Treaver> How do I remove the grub menu completely and use the Windows 8 Menu
[02:14] <iBelieve> compdoc, Okay, thanks.
[02:18] <brian____> Treaver, which OS did you install first?
[02:19] <o3u> i have a TP-link which works with rtl8192cu driver, lsmod, modprobe -l, lsusb, lspci all show the driver, however i cannot see the card with iwconfig, any idea what i can try?
[02:20] <o3u> it's a wireless dongle
[02:20] <brian____> Treaver, also consider that since w8 is a graphical boot loader you're loading extra stuff at boot to just throw it away.  all for the second of so of eye candy
[02:20] <Dr_willis> zivester,  if you mena you login at lightdm. and it exits back to lightdm. check the permissions/ownership of your .Xauthority file in the users home (use the consoel to do this) it may be owned by root by  mistake
[02:21] <samson> hello.every ubuntuer
[02:21] <o3u> im on ubuntu 12.10
[02:21] <brian____> o3u, does it tell you no wireless extensions, or the card isnt listed?
[02:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> samson: you.greetings
[02:21] <o3u> brian____: its just not listed
[02:22] <samson> what?
[02:22] <subcool> ok- can someone explain why i can not transfer files greater than 4.0gb via samba
[02:22] <subcool> seriously please
[02:22] <subcool> this is pissin gme off
[02:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> subcool: because they are huge?
[02:22] <brian____> o3u, whats 'lshw -C network'
[02:22] <subcool> samba has a file cap?
[02:23] <subcool> ntzrmtthihu777:
[02:23] <subcool> filesize*
[02:23] <Dr_willis> subcool,  what filesystem is the samba shares on?
[02:23] <brian____> subcool, you're not perhaps sending to something that is fat32?
[02:23] <subcool> i am sending a .rar file..
[02:24] <subcool> from one linux box to another
[02:24] <o3u> brian____: http://pastebin.com/TQVQVAq9 it's showing my wired motherboard connector
[02:24] <Dr_willis> subcool,  for linux to linux, you could just try scp
[02:24] <subcool> the files are stored on a ext4 fs
[02:24] <subcool> Dr_willis: i was just thinking that
[02:24] <Dr_willis> ive seen some old issues with samba and 4gb files.. but those all date to 2005 or so
[02:25] <subcool> one of the boxes is running kubuntu 10.04
[02:25] <Dr_willis> scp souldent care what disrto. ;)
[02:25] <brian____> o3u, hmm
[02:25] <subcool> ok- ill just use that.
[02:28] <brian____> o3u, 'lspci -nn'
[02:28] <o3u> brian____: actually its not showing on lspci
[02:28] <subcool> thanks guys
[02:28] <brian____> o3u, what is the model of the tplink?
[02:29] <o3u> brian____: http://pastebin.com/Up9WXXcx it's a TP-link TL-WN725N
[02:29] <brian____> I'll be honest, about 7 days ago, I had 4 usb wifi dongles, none of them truly supported, but some got them to work.  I bought one that was official supported, after a few days of tinkering.  I wish I would have avoided the tinkering
[02:30] <brian____> actually, 'lsusb'
[02:30] <o3u> brian____: :/ i read a whole bunch of posts from people that got em working and everything seems to load the driver but it's not working http://pastebin.com/eiB94T6v
[02:31] <Biomechd> arg. i went into ccsm and told it to disable alt-lmb for moving windows around and i still can't deselect anything in blender because it's not registering that i disabled the mouse shortcut to move windows (which conflicts with blender's keyboard method of deselecting in group select)
[02:32] <brian____> o3u, I had a netgear that uses the same realtek chip, I couldn't get it to work.  Well, I got it to work, but it was so buggy, I would go to sleep with it working, wake up with no device, I wouldn't use the ndiswrapper though.
[02:34] <o3u> brian____: did you have a similar problem to mine? dongle not showing in iwconfig?
[02:35] <Bray90820`> Is there an expose/ Mission Control replacement for ubuntu
[02:36] <brian____> o3u, honestly, I had everything single problem I could come up with.  I'm quite sure, I read every page pertaining to the netgear adapter that exists on the internet.  I kept thinking it was my wpa_supplicant.conf.  Since when I got it working, I could associate to the AP without it failing so often.  It was all the driver.
[02:36] <brian____> *couldn't
[02:37] <fwaokda_> when i try to go to "System Settings > Details" my control panel crashes each time.... anyone know how i can fix this?
[02:38] <brian____> o3u, where you might have more luck, when I installed the realtek propiertary drivers off their site, the module wouldn't associate to the card, maybe yours will easier
[02:39] <o3u> brian____: ya i did that right away, haven't tried ndiswrapper,
[02:40] <johnjohn1011> o3u:  did that donngle ever work?
[02:41] <brian____> o3u, yah, truthfully, new card is easiest.  I switched and bought a pcie1x put it in the machine, booted it up, everything worked within 30 seconds.
[02:41] <Bray90820`> Is there an expose/ Mission Control replacement for ubuntu
[02:42] <o3u> johnjohn1011: i just bought it
[02:42] <johnjohn1011> o3u:  there is a guy, larry finger,  if you look him up on linux wireless, he probably can help.   what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:43] <o3u> 12.10
[02:43] <o3u> trying to do modprobe 8192cu gives me : FATAL: Error inserting 8192cu (/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8192cu.ko): Device or resource busy
[02:44] <brian____> o3u, is rtl8192cu still loaded?
[02:44] <MrGizmo757> Has Anyone  had problems With Ubuntu Hanging on Shutdown?  Mine will frequently just get stuck on the splash screen and i have to force it to turn off.
[02:44] <johnjohn1011> do an lsmod
[02:45] <o3u> http://pastebin.com/XvVKCq8x
[02:46] <scarecrow_> how do i install this printer driver? it was a tar.gz file, i unzipped and found 2 .deb files and an install.sh file.  if i open a .deb in software center it says its missing a dependency (the other .deb file)  tried executing the install.sh file and it says "missing operand"
[02:46] <scarecrow_> http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010697.asp
[02:46] <Dr_willis> scarecrow_,  you did search the repos first? a lot of drivers are in the repos but not installed by default.
[02:46] <Dr_willis> scarecrow_,  as for the .deb   you could try 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'  and seeif it pulls in any needed dependencies
[02:46] <brian____> o3u, 'modprobe -r rtl819cu ; modprobe -r rrl8192cu_common; modprobe -r rtlwifi'
[02:47] <Dr_willis> you may need to install gdebi first scarecrow_
[02:47] <brian____> o3u, second module is spelled incorrectly
[02:47] <Dr_willis> scarecrow_,  or if its just 2 deb files.. 'sudo dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb'
[02:47] <scarecrow_> i installed one that claims its the right one (installed by going to launcher -> settings -> printer> add printer.  everything installed okay, after restart you print a test page, it says it printed but the printer sits idle like it never got the print job
[02:48] <SuperLag> have any of you guys made your own pastebin site before?
[02:50] <o3u> brian____: cool, now i have one module, still nothing in iwconfig
[02:51] <o3u> this shows up in my syslog: http://pastebin.com/NfV3REY3
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, No but I flew like superman once
[02:51] <SuperLag> :)
[02:52] <brian____> o3u, well theory is, you should add those 3 modules, I mentioned to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist -- Then they wont load again, however, I wasnt able to get my realtek to associate to the 8192cu module.  I don't know if it didn't match the device id it was looking for
[02:53] <johnjohn1011> o3u: maybe you an boot up on 13.04 and see if works there
[02:53] <o3u> brian____:  hmm ok,
[02:53] <betrayd> printer might show 'PC LOAD LETTER'
[02:53] <o3u> i could try, i'd have to reinstall many drivers though no?
[02:53] <brian____> o3u, Like I said though, I don't have any good advice.  I wasn't able to get it to work.  I tried backports as well, no go.  I was able to get it to atleast partially work with the rtl8192cu driver
[02:54] <brian____> o3u, I believe johnjohn1011 was recommending a liveCD since the rtl8192cu is loaded by default there
[02:55] <o3u> ah
[02:55] <o3u> good point i'll try livecd boot is it loaded on 12.10 by default?
[02:56] <brian____> o3u, yes, but an older version.  If you tried backports you could try the new module that is in 13.10, but just tryingt live 13.10 is easier
[02:56] <dakotawulfy> o3u hey think that driver use to work on the old 11.04  ubuntu but i was not able to get it to work on the 12.04 lts
[02:57] <dakotawulfy> o3u or newer
[02:58] <brian____> ya, rtl8192cu although included and supported has had some rough years with devices.  When I tried a different realtek chipset, it worked like a champ, in 12.04 and 13.10.
[02:58] <varunendra> o3u, rtl8192cu is available on all supported versions. However, for some people the proprietary one downloaded and compiled from realtek works better
[02:59] <dakotawulfy> o3u i have 2 of them now and have not got them working on the 12.04
[03:00] <Biomechd> i asked this earlier but nobody has replied to it. i went into compiz and disabled both window-moving shortcuts so that a window can only be moved if i click on a window's decorations and drag it around. the default shortcut of "alt-lmb" to move a window conflicts with blender's shortcuts to de-select things while using a method of group selection. since i don't use many hotkeys outside of blender, i'd like to disable this shortcut.
[03:01] <brian____> ya, I gave it a solid 4 days of effort.  I'm not going to try to convince anyone I'm the smartest guy around, but I gave it one hell of an effort with the few abilities I have, when it finally worked, it wasnt worth the effort since it was buggy as all getout.
[03:01] <Biomechd> how do i permanently disable all methods of moving a window except for dragging a window's title bar?
[03:03] <scarecrow_> i have installed the driver for my canon pixma mx310 all in one. its a networked printer attached to a windows PC. driver installed, print jobs claim to finish without error, but nothing prints / no reaction from the printer. any ideas?
[03:04] <scarecrow_> prints fine from other windows PCs on the network
[03:05] <Bray90820`> Is there an expose/ Mission Control replacement for ubuntu
[03:05] <johnjohn1011> o3u: it seems like that driver should be working with the current linux. it's odd
[03:06] <o3u> johnjohn1011: thats what it seems like and it looks like it loads well too, it just doesn't show anything in iwconfig, maybe i'm missing some configuration there?
[03:06] <o3u> do i have to manually configure iwconfig ?
[03:07] <johnjohn1011> is it not showing up in network manager?
[03:07] <s3b`> :0 I can't apt-get install anything
[03:07] <scarecrow_> whats the error
[03:07] <o3u> johnjohn1011: no
[03:07] <johnjohn1011> o3u:  is the device name in this list?  http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#supported-r8192u-usb
[03:07] <s3b`> Unable to fetch
[03:08] <mojtaba> Hi, I have logged in to a FTP server from browser with my username, does anybody know how can I log in to that FTP server via same browser with different account? because It automatically log me in.
[03:08] <scarecrow_> clear your history
[03:09] <mojtaba> scarecrow_: I have done this, but did not solve my problem
[03:09] <o3u> johnjohn1011: i dont think so
[03:09] <scarecrow_> did you restart the browser? was the page open when you cleared?
[03:09] <o3u> http://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN725N_v1
[03:10] <mojtaba> Is there any special command like username@ftp://servername.com?
[03:10] <th0r> mojtaba: in the security section of the browser, delete the saved password for the server
[03:10] <o3u> i can't find it in that list of supported usb devices, but i read to try the rt driver
[03:10] <scarecrow_> you can use an FTP client. that would be best
[03:10] <Silas_> Hey all. I have a brand new Ubuntu Pangolin Performance laptop from System76. I've tried absolutely everything I could find online solution-wise but I cannot get the audio drivers to work. No sound at all. Any solutions or suggestions?
[03:10] <varunendra> o3u, follow the instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 , post back the pastebin link (sorry I joined the party late, just saw rtl8192cu and jumped in..)
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> Silas_, Have you tried the system 76 support at the ubuntu forums?
[03:12] <Silas_> I have, I actually just submitted a post on there but I really need audio for tonight so I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this. And sys76 hasn't responded in a week.
[03:12] <mojtaba> th0r: Thanks, I will check it.
[03:12] <Biomechd> hulloo?
[03:12] <SuperBawlz> Hey. I changed the icon on my desktop for my Home directory and it was a mistake and I can't find one that I can live with. How do I get the old one back?
[03:12] <johnjohn1011> o3u:  mr finger is usually very prompt on emailing back information.  he helped me two weeks ago
[03:14] <scarecrow_> what do i do if my printer is installed but nothing prints?
[03:14] <o3u> http://pastebin.com/x3fd17u8
[03:14] <o3u> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/x3fd17u8
[03:14] <Biomechd> scarecrow_: smash it with the most humorous object you can find that you can imagine someone smashing a printer with
[03:15] <johnjohn1011> o3u:  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-954862-start-0.html
[03:16] <SuperBawlz> Hey. I changed the icon on my desktop for my Home directory and it was a mistake and I can't find one that I can live with. How do I get the old one back?
[03:16] <Silas_> Anyone have any suggestions for the lack of sound issue?
[03:16] <varunendra> o3u, on my 12.04, doesn
[03:17] <varunendra> doesn't look like your device is supported by rtl8192cu o3u
[03:17] <varunendra> looking for options..
[03:17] <brian____> o3u, I saw another page that states similar to the johnjohn1011 link that you should use 8188eu.ko
[03:17] <dakotawulfy> o3u  just tried it agin on my 12.04 not working  does not connect right show the router but wont connect
[03:18] <brian____> dakotawulfy, I had the same thing, I was able to get my 8192cu to work, but work is such a vague term, the comp saw it and talked to it, but the device was worthless for connecting to anything, espically at getting an IP
[03:20] <dakotawulfy> o3u check out the part with the wireless security part think it has something to do with it i know on the driver disk it does have that part  might be able to build it
[03:20] <Biomechd> well, i'm guessing nobody's able to help me, then.
[03:21] <Biomechd> urg.
[03:21] <brian____> o3u, I'm all for you to get this to work, and I'll help as much as I can, but there are other $20 cards you could just plug in and work, if you're trying to cnnect to an unsecured AP, you'll have greater success than a WPA
[03:21] <johnjohn1011> o3u: if it was me, i'd buy another dongle  and send that one to mr. finger and let him debug it.
[03:21] <brian____> Biomechd, sorry, never seen that before and have no ideas for you
[03:22] <johnjohn1011> o3u:  in his email he says he runs  D-Link DWA-130 
[03:22] <SuperBawlz> Hey. I changed the icon on my desktop for my Home directory and it was a mistake and I can't find one that I can live with. How do I get the old one back?
[03:23] <ek> Would someone here be so kind as to help me get my wifi device unblocked from RF-Kill?
[03:23] <johnjohn1011> o3u: plenty of $5-10 dongles that work seamless
[03:23] <ek> I've tried everything I could find online but no luck.
[03:23] <brian____> johnjohn1011, that was another card I couldn't get to work.  :)  apparently, revB is rather impossible, earlier cards work
[03:23] <o3u> brian____: ya i'll get another one i guess,  probably send it to mr finger
[03:23] <johnjohn1011> i have trendnet 649UB and it works great.
[03:23] <loof> Is there a text only installer for 13.04?
[03:23] <varunendra> o3u, can you also post 'modinfo 8192cu' please?
[03:24] <loof> The graphical installer is giving me trouble
[03:24] <zivester> Dr_willis, I'm actually getting kicked back to the lightdm login screen unexpectedly ... so I want to know where to look to figure out why I'm getting booted
[03:24] <varunendra> I can confirm that at least on kernel 3.2.0-36, the device is NOT natively supported o3u
[03:25] <SuperBawlz> q
[03:25] <scarecrow_> figured it out. was defaulting to the fax, not printer
[03:25] <o3u> http://pastebin.com/jYAQLgxw
[03:26] <DouglasK> Quassel IRC client lets you have a monitor pane that monitors traffic from all channels that you're in.  Is it possible to do this with any other GUI IRC client?
[03:26] <phaedra> ek: have you tried 'sudo rfkill unblock wifi'  ?
[03:27] <varunendra> o3u, Nope, the proprietary one you have compiled also doesn't support your device, unless I overlooked an 'alias' entry
[03:27] <ek> phaedra: Yes. Many times. :( I've tried resetting my BIOS, unloading the module, running rfkill unblock [all,wifi,wlan,etc...] and reloading the module... Nothing.
[03:27] <cappicard> good evening. anyone know a better cooler for an AMD Phenom II x4 960T? The stock one isn't up to the task. sensors is reporting 50C
[03:28] <varunendra> o3u, do you have any thread posted on ubuntuforums or anywhere else? I'm interested in this device
[03:28] <o3u> i cut out most of the "alias", you need to see them all varunendra ?
[03:28] <ek> phaedra: Also, my laptop's wifi switch (FN+F2) doesn't seem to report anything in the rfkill events, either.
[03:28] <varunendra> o3u, sure!
[03:28] <brian____> o3u,  you could try to use '8188eu.ko' same steps as it was to compule 8192cu
[03:29] <o3u> varunendra: i havent personally but there's this; http://askubuntu.com/questions/210152/tl-wn725n-wireless-adapter
[03:30] <dakotawulfy> o3u maybe u could try the windows wrapper for it
[03:30] <o3u> varunendra: full list http://pastebin.com/LcTN4TUf
[03:30] <brian____> o3u, this page specifically refers to the ID of your device and says you need to use 8188eu.ko, I'd say that is an excellent plce to check.  http://pengpod.com/pengwiki/index.php?title=No_WiFi_devices,_no_wifi_networks_shown&action=edit
[03:31] <phaedra> ek: have you tried anything similar to this?  sudo rmmod -f ath5k
[03:31] <phaedra> sudo rfkill unblock all
[03:31] <phaedra> sudo modprobe ath5k
[03:32] <varunendra> o3u, no dice there :( probably what dakotawulfy suggested is the only known solution (but  I haven't searched so far)
[03:33] <ek> phaedra: Yes. But, I've only tried it with ath9k as that is what is loaded.
[03:34] <varunendra> o3u, just to make it clear for all - your device's PID is 8179 (as per lsusb). Any driver that does not have this PID in its 'alias' will almost certainly won't support it
[03:35] <phaedra> ek: here's a page that may help if you haven't tried it already.  http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/how-to-fix-rfkill-issues/
[03:36] <dakotawulfy> like always worked now its broken  and wont work
[03:37] <o3u> varunendra: thanks
[03:37] <brian____> o3u, here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136140
[03:37] <ek> phaedra: Thanks. I'll try that now.
[03:38] <varunendra> o3u, brian____ has pointed you to the best place it seems
[03:39] <ek> phaedra: Know what's strange? I just accidentally put my laptop to sleep hitting the wrong event key and now wireless works...
[03:39] <ek> Hrm. I'm going to have to play with some things.
[03:40] <phaedra> ek: well at least you got it to work ;)
[03:40] <ek> phaedra: And only after 3 hours!
[03:40] <ek> phaedra: And not actually doing anything to fix it! :)
[03:41] <ek> phaedra: I'm going to see if rebooting hard blocks it again.
[03:41] <phaedra> ek: perhaps the problem is more with hibernation for you than rfkill
[03:43] <ek> phaedra: Could be. I just thought it was strange that the installation was able to use wifi without a problem at all.
[03:43] <ek> phaedra: Also, I've noticed that once wireless was enabled it disabled my wired networking...
[03:43] <ek> Strange.
[03:44] <o3u> hmm where can i get source for that though
[03:45] <o3u> FATAL: Error inserting 8188eu (/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8188eu.ko): Invalid module format
[03:45] <phaedra> ek:  it does that on my toshiba laptop. it doesn't use wired once the wireless is up
[03:45] <brian____> o3u, well, it didn't end up working for him, his best success was ndiswrapper
[03:45] <ek> phaedra: Well, that's understandable. But, once I disable the wireless, it renders my wired connection unusable. Says "network cable unplugged".
[03:46] <ek> phaedra: Yes. Just as I suspected, a reboot put phy0 back to hard blocked. Wireless is now disabled again.
[03:46] <brian____> o3u, good luck! im going to bed
[03:47] <ek> phaedra: Putting it to sleep and bringing it back brings up wireless again. Very interesting.
[03:47] <phaedra> ek: try the hibernate option you acidentally did before and see if it comes up
[03:48] <phaedra> ek: ok...  interesting
[03:48] <ek> phaedra: Yeah... Pretty strange.
[03:49] <ek> And, of course, nothing in my rfkill list is blocked now.
[03:49]  * ek shrugs
[03:49] <phaedra> ek you might want to check to see what commands are being run when coming out of hiberrnation
[03:49] <SnapSnap> How do I submit feedback about  a particular feature- namely, the dash?
[03:51] <Dr_willis> !brainstorm
[03:51] <ek> phaedra: Yeah. I'll check it out...
[03:51] <ek> phaedra: Well, thanks for the help! ;)
[03:52] <phaedra> ek: np i hope you get it all worked out
[03:52] <naknomik> moved HDD from one machine to another, grub gfx mode seems to have problem, after kernel boots everything is fine. How do I fix grub?
[03:52] <phaedra> ek: find what commands/scripts are run after the nobernate and see if you can just put them in a script
[03:52] <icesword> hi
[03:53] <icesword> any news from ubuntu?
[03:54] <hulu> where the casper create default user
[03:56] <varunendra> hulu, /home/ubuntu in casper-rw file or partition.
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> naknomik, The resolution?
[03:57] <hulu> varunendra: how can custom it
[03:59] <varunendra> hulu, that I can't help with, although it is possible (remastersys creates /home/custom, maybe look at its script). Sorry..
[03:59] <naknomik> wilee-nilee: monitor has 1920x1080
[03:59] <naknomik> wilee-nilee: can I force normal 80x25 text mode while in Grub?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> the 'nofb' and 'text' options might do that nakaori
[04:00] <Dr_willis> the 'nofb' and 'text' options might do that naknomik
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> naknomik, You can change the boot resolution in gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub however make sure it is one that works, and run a sudo update-grub after changing.
[04:01] <hulu> varunendra: thx
[04:01] <varunendra> :)
[04:02] <naknomik> Dr_willis: where do I add the nofb or text option? In grub config somewhere?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> you can test it at the grub menu. hit e to edit the boot lines.  change 'quiet splash' to be like 'nofb noqiet nosplash text'
[04:03] <Dr_willis> some of these grub options/kernel options might not be valid any more.  they change every so often
[04:03] <Dr_willis> but 'text' should get you to a text based console on the system
[04:04] <Dr_willis> the other options may or may not be needed
[04:05] <mojtaba> Hi, I just want to know, do I need to have a firewall on ubuntu? (I am a newbie)
[04:05] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  most likely no.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  are you behind a router? or dirctly connected to the internet?
[04:05] <alphaEncore> It depends on what you're doing
[04:05] <ek> phaedra: Okay. Thanks again.
[04:05] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: I am behind the router
[04:06] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  then most likely - it is allready doing a decent job of stoping any bad things
[04:07] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: If I need what is best and is there any necessary configuration for it?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  it totally depends on what you are doing with the pc.
[04:07] <alphaEncore> Hey is anyone using the Awesome WM
[04:07] <Dr_willis> !firewall
[04:07] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: can you give me some examples? I am already surfing the web and sometimes web developing
[04:08] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  you are not runing any special services? then i doubt if you need to worry about much
[04:08] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: actually no.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/3750/what-precautions-should-i-take-when-exposing-my-desktop-directly-to-the-internet/3753#3753 has some info in it about locking down your system
[04:08] <Dr_willis> most of which wont apply.
[04:08] <betrayd> alphaEncore: what about it
[04:09] <alphaEncore> I can't figure out why the bottom notifications won't show up
[04:09] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: How come a firewall is not mostly needed in linux systems?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  theres no services listening by default normally, so theres nothing that needs to be blocked
[04:11] <alphaEncore> I'm gonna reinstall and see if that fixes it
[04:11] <Dr_willis> A standard ubuntu install should not activate network services that are accessible via the internet.
[04:11] <Dr_willis> You can check via (for tcp):
[04:11] <Dr_willis>       shell command ------>  netstat -lntp
[04:11] <betrayd> alphaEncore: i have 3.4 =(
[04:12] <alphaEncore> yeah me too is that the problem??
[04:12] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: I see, thanks. I will take a look
[04:13] <alphaEncore> When I first installed it half of my former desktop still showed up
[04:14] <alphaEncore> It was at the bottom then I REMOVED it and the bottom of awesome was gone too
[04:14] <o3u> what's one ubuntu supported usb wifi dongle?
[04:14] <alphaEncore> I'm using xfce 4 right now
[04:14] <Dr_willis> o3u,  i tend to hit up the amazon site and seearch the revies till i find one i like. Ive bought like 3 that work out of the box on ubuntu.
[04:14] <betrayd> but i see something in rc.lua needs som epreset value for notification, might be worth it to ask in #awesome
[04:14] <betrayd> alphaEncore: ^
[04:15] <o3u> Dr_willis: i bought a few TP-Link but i can't seem to get them to work
[04:15] <betrayd> could be a simple on/off type change in config, alphaEncore
[04:15] <alphaEncore> I wanna use this box as a server only so I don't need all the bloat
[04:15] <betrayd> ah
[04:15] <Dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MTTJOY/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[04:15] <o3u> Dr_willis: can you suggest a model that worked out of the box for you? (cheap preferably)
[04:15] <Dr_willis> works for me. its a mini dongle.
[04:16] <betrayd> alphaEncore: but with a screen though?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> look in the reviews at amazon is all i did
[04:16] <o3u> Dr_willis: thanks!
[04:16] <Dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JWMOOI/ref=oh_details_o07_s02_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1    good range.
[04:17] <alphaEncore> I think the path the luna file got a little screwed in the install
[04:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007M7RP6Q/ref=oh_details_o07_s02_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1  Looks all wacky. seems to have really awsome range
[04:17] <Dr_willis> ;)
[04:17] <alphaEncore> gonna try to reinstall
[04:17] <o3u> Dr_willis: does it work on ubuntu though? that first one you posted
[04:17] <betrayd> alphaEncore: k
[04:18] <varunendra> o3u, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:19] <hulu> varunendra: i don't create casper-rw
[04:19] <varunendra> hulu, what is your objective?
[04:19] <ubuntumuu> downloading ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso...
[04:19] <ubuntumuu> :)
[04:20] <hulu> varunendra: i want to custom livecd's default user's home directory
[04:21] <Dr_willis> o3u,  they all 3 work on eveyr linux box ive tried
[04:21] <Dr_willis> o3u,  i use them for my raspberry pi and my Linux based Settop-media player
[04:21] <varunendra> hulu, so you want the default user id to be one you want, right? Like /home/hulu
[04:21] <ubuntumuu> will it fit (785mb) in a regular CD?
[04:21] <o3u> Dr_willis: have you tried them on ubuntu?
[04:21] <Dr_willis> ubuntu 12.10+ needs a dvd
[04:21] <Dr_willis> o3u,  yes.. as ive said.. they are using drivers included in the normal kernel
[04:22] <hulu> varunendra: i want to chang default user's .bashrc
[04:22] <ubuntumuu> thanks Dr
[04:22] <ubuntumuu> Dr_willis:
[04:22] <Dr_willis> read the amazon reviews. thats how i found them
[04:22] <o3u> Dr_willis: Thanks :D
[04:22] <Dr_willis> i searched amazon for 'ubuntu wifi dongle'
[04:22] <o3u> cool
[04:23] <varunendra> hmm.. then it's certainly beyond what I have dealt or even thought of so far, hulu
[04:23] <Dr_willis> they all use the rt2800 nic chipset i think.
[04:23] <ubuntumuu> Did you know 'sudo' means 'I sweat' in Spanish?
[04:24] <hulu> varunendra: can you help me?
[04:24] <vramana_> I have faced the problem mentioned in this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660821 I tried to used pppoeconf while connecting and it is working now. I want to configure my TP-Link WR841N router to the ADSL2+ broadband modem. I tried changing its MTU value to 1492  which was the value written /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider. Even then some websites are not opening.. Can somebody please help??
[04:25] <varunendra> hulu, but I *think you can do so 'after' creating the cdfs using remastersys. It gives you to do modifications in it, then create the iso later. Although I know there are better ways.
[04:26] <varunendra> but don't know or haven't tried the 'ways' myself ;) hulu
[04:27] <hulu> varunendra: i want to custom it by manual
[04:27] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:28] <hulu> varunendra: i don't user the remastersys
[04:29] <varunendra> hulu, I remember having seen some guide on doing it manually under "Tips & Tutorials" section of ubuntuforums, but can't find it now.
[04:32] <Dr_willis> o3u,  that black one  ( not the fancy white one) seems to get the best range in my tests. :) its seeing more networks when i set it in the widow. then the white one. the little dongle one. is the slowest of them all. but its tiny and i use it in my Raspberry Pi.
[04:32] <hulu> varunendra: please help me
[04:32] <hulu> varunendra: find again
[04:33] <varunendra> hulu, take a look at : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:34] <ShapeShifter499> so I'm trying ubuntu on my 1GHz 15" Titanium PowerBook G4 and for whatever reason it chokes and spits a message "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"   any ideas?
[04:34] <ezioa> i have a bind server and it's not resolving local addresses
[04:35] <ShapeShifter499> I run ubuntu on every other supported machine I have, figured I blow the dust off and try it on my PowerBook G4
[04:35] <hulu> varunendra: i had look at this many times,but no help
[04:36] <ezioa> here's my /etc/bind/named.conf.local
[04:36] <ezioa> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ddca46f688c87b6a4c8d
[04:36] <varunendra> hulu, then you should contact someone who is already doing it. I'm not the right person I'm afraid :(
[04:37] <varunendra> but you can find quite some on the forum itself, hulu
[04:37] <hulu> varunendra: thx
[04:37] <ezioa> here's my bb file https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ecbce0a2b9803d68141d
[04:37] <ezioa> excuse the tildes
[04:38] <dakotawulfy> hulu i have used remastersys
[04:38] <dakotawulfy> did not see what u wanted
[04:40] <hulu> dakotawulfy: i want to custom the home direstory of the default user
[04:40] <F41L> Hiya.. quick issue. I'm setting the autohide reveal sensitivity of the unity sidebar, but it does not appear to want to save said setting.
[04:40] <dakotawulfy> ok
[04:40] <varunendra> hulu, you may also use remastersys script (/usr/bin/remastersys) as an example or guideline. (use 'locate remastersys' command to find resources it uses)
[04:40] <dakotawulfy> it does not save the stuff
[04:40] <dakotawulfy> right
[04:40] <hulu> varunendra: i havn't the remastersys
[04:41] <hulu> dakotawulfy: can you help me
[04:41] <dakotawulfy> u need  to write a script to do  that
[04:42] <hulu> dakotawulfy: i want to change the /etc/skel，but it not run
[04:42] <dakotawulfy> i can pull some of it off of my distro
[04:43] <dakotawulfy> i got script to make it all work
[04:43] <hulu> dakotawulfy: where the script
[04:44] <dakotawulfy> i got on my distro i built
[04:44] <cosimo_> ciao
[04:48] <_mnathani_> I am experiencing terribly slow performance running ubuntu desktop 13.04 64bit on a dual proc quad core machine with 16gb ram
[04:49] <usr13> _mnathani_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:50] <varunendra> _mnathani_, most often the culprit for a slow performance is a bad driver, and most often it is graphics one.. what is your graphics card?
[04:51] <_mnathani_> there is no graphics card
[04:51] <_mnathani_> its an onboard (server) system
[04:51] <varunendra> Which is the onboard one?
[04:51] <_mnathani_> not sure, whatever a Dell Poweredge T605 Server comes with
[04:51] <usr13> _mnathani_: lspci | pastebinit  #And send us URL
[04:53] <cyb> hello, everybody.
[04:53] <corehook> hi all, pls advise software to build corporate mail server
[04:53] <mchlbhm> So, when I'm typing things in the terminal, I'm using bash?
[04:54] <mchlbhm> Sorry, got ahead of myself
[04:54] <_mnathani_> hard to pastebin, there is a line that says VGA compatible controller Advanced Micro Devices AMD ATI ES1000 (rev 02)
[04:54] <cyb> does somebody know how to change background color on elinks? by default I get this awful light gray that doesn't let me read.
[04:55] <mchlbhm> I'm trying to learn about the terminal codes, not just what they do, but what they mean and what my computer is doing with them.
[04:56] <varunendra> _mnathani_, please post the pastebin link to : lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga
[04:56] <varunendra> or tell us the "kernel driver in use", _mnathani_
[04:56] <mchlbhm> I google and get  things like "to do such and such, type this" I want to go deeper than that. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:57] <F41L> Hiya.. quick issue. I'm setting the autohide reveal sensitivity of the unity sidebar, but it does not appear to want to save said setting.
[04:57] <usr13> _mnathani_: Is  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" doing it's job?
[04:58] <_mnathani_> yes, update and upgrade completed
[04:58] <_mnathani_> kernel driver in use: radeon
[04:58] <usr13> _mnathani_: Did it tell you that a reboot was needed?
[04:58] <_mnathani_> it did not
[04:58] <usr13> _mnathani_: lspci | pastebinit  #And send us URL
[04:59] <_mnathani_> should I reboot anyway?
[04:59] <Akiva-Mobile> Hi, since upgrading to 13.04, it really has killed my intel driver, where it was working perfectly before in 12.10. Right now, I am trying to use the intel graphics installer frontend, but the only distrobution it has for me is 12.10. Is there a way to trick the frontend to just give me the 12.10 graphics?
[04:59] <usr13> _mnathani_:  lspci |grep -i vga     #And show us what it says.
[05:00] <varunendra> _mnathani_, If you just updated, then go ahead with a reboot. Also take a look at "Additional Drivers", see if there are any suggestions.
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Akiva-Mobile: What do you mean by "the intel graphics installer frontend"?
[05:01] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: they have an installer seperate from the ubuntu store.
[05:01] <_mnathani_> http://pastebin.ca/2373896
[05:01] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: just reading on their forums, apparently 13.04's version is more recent, which means I actually just need to install an older driver of theirs I guess.
[05:01] <Akiva-Mobile> Any clue as to how I can do this? Will synaptic work?
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Akiva-Mobile: What problems are you having with the default drivers specifically?
[05:03] <varunendra> usr13, I think you missed this : VGA compatible controller Advanced Micro Devices AMD ATI ES1000 (rev 02) ?? Driver in use : radeon, the native one. (for _mnathani_ )
[05:03] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: Well the obvious ones are the unity flickering, and the new shuttdown dialogue not displaying properly. I also suspect that it is the reason why my flash has been crashing so often lately.
[05:03] <Akiva-Mobile> as no one else seems to be having my troubles with youtube.
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Akiva-Mobile: Could you provide a screenshot of the shutdown dialog?
[05:04] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: Coming right up
[05:04] <usr13> varunendra: Oh, ok
[05:05] <mchlbhm> Oooo... probably not the best place to ask my question. I apologize to the people who are experiencing problems and seeking help.
[05:05] <usr13> _mnathani_: lsmod |pastebinit   #Send us resulting URL
[05:06] <_mnathani_> additional drivers section said to restart
[05:06] <usr13> _mnathani_: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers    #And see if there is another .... Ok good restart
[05:07] <usr13> _mnathani_: So you *did* go to Hardware Drivers and install new one.  Right?
[05:07] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: Actually, apparently I can't. The printscreen button appears to be disabled while I am in the shuttdown dialogue.
[05:07] <_mnathani_> nope, there were none available in additional drivers
[05:07] <_mnathani_> but at the bottom it said I needed to restart
[05:07] <_mnathani_> restarting now
[05:07] <usr13> _mnathani_:  Ok good.  See how it goes.  Let us know if it's better
[05:09] <_mnathani_> still really slow
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Akiva-Mobile: Try using gnome-screenshot with a timer.
[05:09] <usr13> _mnathani_: lsmod |pastebinit   #Send us resulting URL
[05:09] <_mnathani_> is there a way I can disable fancy graphics to improve peformance
[05:09] <_mnathani_> pasting it now
[05:09] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: Okay
[05:10] <varunendra> _mnathani_, which version of Ubuntu are you using? 12.04 has the option to use Unity-2D, which is less fancy and faster
[05:10] <_mnathani_> 13.04
[05:11] <aeon-ltd> _mnathani_: if you want more speed you'll have to not use gnome or unity or maybe even compiz standalone
[05:11] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/256514
[05:12] <_mnathani_> would kde be a better option?
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> _mnathani_: not by much
[05:12] <_mnathani_> is there a command I can use to enable 2d-unity?
[05:12] <Akiva-Mobile> Jordan_U: I gather that it is only the bottom left hand corner that is rendering properly
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> _mnathani_: no, you'll have to log out to change session
[05:12] <varunendra> _mnathani_, can you give us an example of where you are experiencing the lag ?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> there is no unity2d after 12.10+
[05:13] <varunendra> THis ^^
[05:13] <GammaX> evening all
[05:13] <usr13> _mnathani_: KDE would probably be somewhat faster.  You have several choices kubuntu-desktop  xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop etc.
[05:14] <varunendra> But radeon driver is something that rings a bell to me :P
[05:14] <usr13> _mnathani_: and I would call them  faster, faster-yet,  and  faster-yet
[05:14] <GammaX> Im having an issue where my nic doesnt show up when inserting a motion controller card into my pci slot when my nic is pci-e
[05:14] <GammaX> any thoughts?
[05:15] <varunendra> _mnathani_, I think your graphics *may be supported by the proprietary fglrx driver. Not sure though. They don't support  cards that are too old.
[05:16] <varunendra> GammaX, does it show up in lspci ? The NIC
[05:17] <GammaX> varunendra when the motion control card is not inserted yes.
[05:17] <GammaX> seems to be some kind of conflict.
[05:17] <cosimo_> ciao
[05:18] <varunendra> GammaX, have you taken a look at syslog or dmesg? Any hints?
[05:18] <GammaX> varunendra nope
[05:19] <_mnathani_> would the server release of ubuntu work better with lower graphics/
[05:19] <GammaX> the nic is attached to 1c.4, the pcie port 5
[05:19] <varunendra> GammaX, maybe try resetting the BIOS if not a problem.
[05:19] <usr13> _mnathani_: There are those amoung us that believe your video driver is the problem.
[05:19] <GammaX> when I put the mesa card in, it shows up as attached to 1e.0
[05:19] <GammaX> and the nic gets deactivated.
[05:19] <usr13> _mnathani_: Yes, but server release does not include GUI
[05:19] <GammaX> yeah bios is nothing to be worried about at this point
[05:20] <varunendra> _mnathani_, do you even have a GUI? Just wondering..
[05:20] <uiuiui32> Hello. I have 4 LAN ports and tried setting the IP address (ip1) on a LAN port (em4) that doest not have a cable plugged in. However, there was an IP conflict on ip1. How is that possible?
[05:20] <uiuiui32> [ip1 is live on the network though]
[05:20] <uiuiui32> [ie another machine is using it]
[05:21] <usr13> _mnathani_: What video driver are you using now?
[05:21] <_mnathani_> probably still the radeon
[05:21] <varunendra> GammaX, I'd suggest to take a close look at dmesg if you haven't
[05:22] <GammaX> varunendra will do that now
[05:22] <usr13> _mnathani_: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit    #Send resulting URL
[05:23] <varunendra> _mnathani_, 'lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga' to confirm the driver, but have you installed a GUI after installing the server?
[05:23] <varunendra> ohir, please also see what usr13 suggested, _mnathani_
[05:23] <_mnathani_> sorry for the confusion, I am running the Desktop edition of 13.04 with a GUI
[05:24] <GammaX> varunendra unfortunately the hm2 drivers don't have useful error messages,it returns -1 on all failures so all you end up getting is "unknown symbol in module"
[05:25] <_mnathani_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634388
[05:25] <varunendra> GammaX, anything on device detection/initialization? (in /var/log/syslog)
[05:27] <usr13> _mnathani_:  Did you try    System->Administration->Hardware Drivers      and look to see if there are additional drivers available?
[05:27] <_mnathani_> usr13: This is the gerp Driver output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634395
[05:28] <usr13> _mnathani_: lsmod |grep radeon |pastebinit  #Send us URL
[05:28] <varunendra> GammaX, NIC and a motion controller have no connection, also, the ports as you say are pci and pci-e, so I suspect if it is a BIOS setting or bug.
[05:29] <_mnathani_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634399
[05:29] <marandi> hi guys , i installed ubuntu 13.04 on my old pc and i got this style for background of dashboard,ALT+Tab,Shutdown dialog ! please help ! http://oi42.tinypic.com/5mhjer.jpg
[05:30] <usr13> _mnathani_: Since you rebooted, did you try and see if updated driver is available?  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[05:31] <_mnathani_> couldnt find that , but software update > additonal drivers had nothing
[05:32] <savio> Hi all
[05:34] <usr13> _mnathani_: See:  http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html  & http://www.itworld.com/software/351745/install-ati-amd-catalyst-131-drivers-ubuntu-1304
[05:34] <ChogyDan> _mnathani_: sudo lshw -C video    should show you the driver as well
[05:35] <usr13> ChogyDan: He is using  radeon
[05:35] <ctxmen> there are no known bugs in ubuntu. its your fault
[05:36] <usr13> ctxmen: It's your fault?
[05:36] <ctxmen> yes the problem sits in front of the monitor
[05:37] <usr13> Ok, gotta go folks. ttyl
[05:38] <varunendra> _mnathani_, did a quick search for your device on AMD site (http://search.amd.com/US/Pages/NoResults.aspx?csquery=ATI+ES1000&collection=support-us), and looks like your card is not supported by their proprietary driver (probably the device is too old?). So maybe radeon is the only choice for you.
[05:38] <_mnathani_> what is the run level for a system with no graphics
[05:39] <Raha> 2
[05:39] <_mnathani_> networking should work at this run level though?
[05:39] <DRatJr> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04. It was installed on a created partition, alongside windows 8. I uninstalled Ubuntu, deleted its partition, and merged it back with my C:/ drive. Now, Ubuntu will not remove from the Windows 8 boot menu in UEFI. I have tried booting into a Ubuntu USB and using efibootmgr. I have also tried /FixMbr and /Fixboot. Nothing has helped. I have JUST completely reinstalled windows 8 and it is STILL there. I was inf
[05:40] <DRatJr> only they can reinstall UEFI if I send in my laptop. I do not wish to send it in, this is my last resort. So what can I do to remove it from the boot options in UEFI?
[05:40] <DRatJr> Any help?
[05:40] <lucido> How can I create a custom xorg config in 13.04?
[05:40] <Raha> _mnathani_  what is your distru??
[05:41] <lucido> where is the conf file?
[05:41] <Raha> its diffrenet in debian and redhat
[05:42] <nullby7e> lucido: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:42] <Raha> lucido /etc
[05:42] <_mnathani_> ubuntu 13.04
[05:42] <nullby7e> lucido: edit there
[05:42] <_mnathani_> it is already run level 2, but graphics are enabled for now
[05:42] <lucido> that doesn't work anymore
[05:42] <lucido> it has been moved
[05:42] <savio> Raha: there is lot of diff in debain and redhat
[05:42] <DRatJr> Anyone?
[05:43] <nullby7e> DRatJr: maybe is on another partition?
[05:43] <DRatJr> There is no other partition.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> DRatJr, Windows 8 has a recovery back up what you need and run it.
[05:43] <DRatJr> Well there are, but they are all recovery partitions
[05:43] <DRatJr> I don't need anything backed up, and I JUST recovered windows.
[05:43] <savio> Raha: mainly your package manger red hat uses rpm and debain uses dpkg for package management
[05:43] <DRatJr> To the day of when I bought the computer
[05:44] <nullby7e> lucido: on 13.04?
[05:44] <Raha> _mnathani_ so its not 2,  because run level 2 has everything for ubuntu
[05:44] <nullby7e> DRatJr: i really don't know
[05:44] <DRatJr> When I run bcdedit from cmd prompt, it doesn't even show ubuntu
[05:44] <DRatJr> but it shows it in the UEFI boot options
[05:44] <Raha> _mnathani_ u want to have network with out graphic?
[05:44] <lucido> nullby7e, yes, and befor, it ignores the monitor section (I want to force a resolution)
[05:45] <nullby7e> lucido: hm i don't know where is xorg.conf maybe you need to try monitors option in system settings, why not?
[05:45] <DRatJr> This sucks.
[05:45] <DRatJr> I legitamately hate Ubuntu now.
[05:45] <DRatJr> It can never be easy.
[05:45] <DRatJr> Always a freaking hassle.
[05:46] <Jordan_U> DRatJr: The problem you're having is almost certainly due to broken firmware, as I believe I explained to you before.
[05:46] <_mnathani_> Raha: yes, for running server applications network would be useful even without graphics
[05:46] <DRatJr> Samsung does not allow users to reinstall UEFI firmware.
[05:46] <Raha>  _mnathani_ check runlevel 3
[05:46] <DRatJr> So I am essentially fucked.
[05:46] <Jordan_U> !language | DRatJr
[05:47] <Dr_willis> One of the many reasons i dont plan on buying a new laptop any time soon.
[05:47] <varunendra> lucido, maybe http://grenage.com/xorg.html ? I think it is the same grenage that we have on the ubuntuforums :)
[05:47] <DRatJr> I'm literally beyond angry at this point.
[05:47] <Raha> lucido i didnt ask about diff, but thanks
[05:47] <nimblesticks> I have ubuntu and linex
[05:48] <DRatJr> Sigh
[05:49] <betrayd> lucido: remember to include the edid options in your xorg.conf whether to accept or ignore
[05:51] <skraito> hi all
[05:51] <Raha> hi
[05:51] <skraito> hi raha how are ya
[05:51] <varunendra> _mnathani_, servers are usually serious business. As such, I'd recommend to go with LTS (12.04) - the server version.
[05:52] <Raha> thanks, :)
[05:57] <dirtyhckr> Hello
[05:57] <Guest16476> how to set manual resolution for hdmi output. (the provided alternatives does not work) it is the only display i use. tha PC has ATI graphics but no properiatary driver is found in software and update.
[05:57] <Raha> dirtyhckr :)
[05:59] <dirtyhckr> when i type "nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24"  it only show that there is 256 ip adrs ( 256 IP addresses (1 host up) scanned in 16.08 seconds ) can't i get the list of all ip addresses  ?
[06:00] <Raha> dirtyhckr you said /24 it means only 256!
[06:01] <jrib> dirtyhckr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIDR_notation
[06:03] <Guest16476> itt is an old LCD TV with 	1366 x 768. resolution in ubuntu is now set to 1280*720 but the desktop exeedes the TV so i do not see the taskbar on top or the unity bar.
[06:03] <dirtyhckr> jrib : i can't get it . please tell me .
[06:04] <jrib> dirtyhckr: what do you want to accomplish?
[06:05] <dirtyhckr> i wana get the list of all ip adress conectect to my network
[06:05] <dirtyhckr> on my address *
[06:05] <Guest16476> when i boot into Windows the size and resolution is jut fine with no effort done
[06:05] <Raha> dirtyhckr: what is your network address witch mask?
[06:06] <Raha> dirtyhckr:  192.168.0.0/16 or /24?
[06:08] <dirtyhckr> i did it but it only shows that "256 ip connected" it dosen't show me the list of all ip adrds .
[06:08] <Aurora> Hello all, I am trying to install Kolab Groupware on Precise however when I try to install with apt-get install kolab I get the error that the package cannot be found. I have updated the sources and I know the files exist. Anyone have any experience with installed Kolab?
[06:08] <Raha> add -v to say it verbose
[06:08] <jacer> Does anyone have any experience streaming sound to a remote x session with esound or something else I can pass through to cygwin?
[06:09] <Raha> dirtyhckr try  -sn instead of -sP
[06:10] <Jordan_U> jacer: I have no direct experience, but you definitely don't want to use esound. Pulseaudio is available for Windows and can be used through a remote X session (it may even be automatic if pulseaudio is installed on the client and server).
[06:11] <dirtyhckr> still same problem .. see .. "   dirtyhckr@bt:~$ nmap -sn 192.168.0.0/24
[06:11] <dirtyhckr> Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-05-05 11:40 IST
[06:11] <dirtyhckr> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.2
[06:11] <dirtyhckr> Host is up (0.024s latency).Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (1 host up) scanned in 3.45 seconds"
[06:11] <FloodBot1> dirtyhckr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !pm | jacer
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to tail -f all logs on system same time instead of /var/log/onelog ?
[06:22] <scarecrow_> Where can I find more information about ubuntu touch, TV and phone?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !touch | scarecrow
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !welcome > lotuspsychje
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Your job is thankless. ;)
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nille: lol i just wanted to know if there was like a welcome trigger for new joiners
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> better than abuse. ;)
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:32] <juular> i think u should have used | instead of > ?????
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nille: !chat trigger goes to that direction
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> juular: well i wanted to try a few in query too
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> !scoobysnacks
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:36] <tokern3>  i tried to install cloudsim on my pc. but it gave me these errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634471/                    what the problem is ?
[06:37] <juular> tokern3: 0.O --> You are not subscribed to this service
[06:37] <juular> tokern3: read at the bottom
[06:39] <tokern3>  i tried to install cloudsim on my pc. but it gave me these errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634471/                    what the problem is ? can anyone help me in this?
[06:40] <Guest98903> best scanner for ubuntu?
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> Guest98903, Scanner?
[06:40] <bazhang> !hcl | Guest98903
[06:41] <lucido> There seems to be no xorg.conf file in 13.04, why?
[06:42] <juular> i dont have it on 12.04
[06:42] <Dr_willis> lucido,  x has auto configured for the most part for like the last 3 years
[06:42] <Dr_willis> so most systems dont need an xorg.conf these days
[06:43] <lucido> Dr_willis, but it would still be taken into account if created?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> if its there.. its used.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> last xorg.conf i had.. i think enabled one setting for my nvidia cards.
[06:44] <bepebe> I am having to run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" every time I log in as my Wi-Fi seems to only connect 18M. How can I set this permanently?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> bepebe,  /etc/rc.local might be one place to do it at boot time..
[06:45] <Dr_willis> unless it HAS to be done after the user logs in
[06:46] <alpha232> any possible reason why, if I'm on kernel 3.5.7.6, i'm being prompted to update to 3.5.0-28?
[06:46] <bepebe> The connection seems to be erratic even though I'm less than 2 metres away from the router, and every other device is fine
[07:05] <joebobjoe> What do I need to do if I want apt-get to pull in the latest releases of software?
[07:05] <dali> God morning, I got a strange graphic problem after updating a few things like gtk+, mesa, xorg-server, xf86-* and pixman. I get lines which are not aligned and flickers when mouse hits them. Problem is mostly in chromium, but also in the flash applications in firefox, the webpages in chromium are unusable. What could it be?
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> joebobjoe: update? sudo apt-get install update && sudo apt-get install upgrade <-- is that what you want?
[07:06] <joebobjoe> aeon-ltd: No the latest version of software that is not in the default repos
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> joebobjoe: add the repo?
[07:06] <fr33r1d3> joebobjoe: sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> joebobjoe: what are you talking about? debs? compiling?
[07:07] <llutz> joebobjoe: find a ppa and add it or get sources and build your own packages
[07:08] <joebobjoe> llutz: Is building your own package hard?
[07:08] <llutz> !packaging  | joebobjoe not really, once you got the basics
[07:08] <joebobjoe> llutz: So is PPA a popular solution? And can I use PPAs with Debian :P ?
[07:09] <llutz> joebobjoe: if you want to break you debian, sure. ask in #debian if you want debian-support
[07:09] <joebobjoe> llutz: Thanks
[07:14] <azi`> whenever I try to download or upgrade something i hit this
[07:14] <azi`> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (32.1.6.124)]
[07:14] <azi`> and here it stalls
[07:14] <azi`> what could be going on?
[07:14] <FloodBot1> azi`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:18] <azi`> is there an alternative ubuntu archive I can try ?
[07:23] <azi`> it appears that I cannot even ping archive.canonical.com
[07:23] <azi`> what the hell
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> azi: plz be polite
[07:24] <gruffalo> Does anyone know why Ubuntu One, Firefox sync and firefox/chromium accessing https pages fails? This started for me in an update in 12.10 and has continued to 13.04. I'm guessing it is some SSL related library but have no idea how to find out.
[07:24] <azi`> lotuspsychje: sorry
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> azi: did you try to apt-get update?
[07:24] <azi`> lotuspsychje: sure..  but it doesnt reach archive.canonical.com also it appears that the address is resolved incorrectly
[07:25] <azi`> since it says the IP address is 32.1.6.124 also I cannot go to archive.canonical.com via browser
[07:25] <dali> God morning, I got a strange graphic problem after updating a few things like gtk+, mesa, xorg-server, xf86-* and pixman. I get lines which are not aligned and flickers when mouse hits them. Problem is mostly in chromium, but also in the flash applications in firefox, the webpages in chromium are unusable. What could it be?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> azi: not sure mate you behind a router or provider block or something?
[07:25] <azi`> lotuspsychje: nah it worked all fine until today
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> azi: i can browse that url
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> azi: must be your side..
[07:26] <azi`> lotuspsychje: indeed. but I have no clue what
[07:27] <blkbrdsr71>  good day  i have problem when i try to daul boot ubunt 12.10 with Windows 8 when it starts it doesnt show the windows to choose which OS the pick, could you please support me in that
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> azi: did you have a look inside software sources in software centre?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> blkbrdsr71: did you try to update grub?
[07:28] <blkbrdsr71> no to be honey and how i do that lotuspsychje  ?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> blkbrdsr71: from a terminal in ubuntu type: sudo update-grub
[07:29] <TrentH> Hello, does anyone have experience with Aircrack? I just has a simple question.
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> blkbrdsr71: then after try a reboot
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !ask | TrentH
[07:30] <TrentH> I'm running airdump-ng and it shows #data I need between 20k and 40k packets. I assume the #data part is the amount of packets I have?
[07:31] <blkbrdsr71> it shows me error msg lotuspsychje
[07:31] <TrentH> Because it only show 53 and I don't see any clients I can run airplay with
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !paste | blkbrdsr71
[07:31] <TrentH> And I assume you need an active client to run airplay?
[07:33] <blkbrdsr71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634609/  there you go lotuspsychje
[07:33] <ctxmen> heut ist wieder samstag, da mach ma immer rammtammtamm
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !de | ctxmen
[07:34] <ctxmen> fuck
[07:34] <cerv0_> hello
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !polite | ctxmen
[07:35] <ctxmen> !stopit | lotuspsychje
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> blkbrdsr71: not sure what that error means mate sorry
[07:35] <blkbrdsr71> it ok mate thanks for trying :)
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> blkbrdsr71: maybe try a reboot, then tru update-grub again?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> try
[07:37] <azi`> can I make unity look like the old gnome?
[07:37] <azi`> i don't like the window switching model and all of unity
[07:37] <rusty0101> blkbrdsr71: that looks like there is something defined in one of the grub config files pointing at a folder or directory that's no longer valid.
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !notunity | azi
[07:39] <blkbrdsr71> and how to fix that rusty0101 ?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> rusty0101: could that be corrupted by his win8 dualboot?
[07:40] <azi`> lotuspsychje: so I should just install gnome-panel and thats it?
[07:40] <azi`> lotuspsychje: I like unity though I just don't like this menu thing and all .. i suppose there is no way to force it to look the old way?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> azi: if you dont like unity style, you can install gnome shell or lubuntu-desktop
[07:41] <rusty0101> I don't know enough about grub-update, but if there is a debug mode for getting more about what's going wrong, perhaps -d, or -dd, you might get a pointer to what file has bad info in it.
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> azi: whatever your wish is
[07:41] <james____> Hi, i'm trying setting up fail2ban on a home server and read that I can have it e-mail me when bans happen -- neat! I want to try this as hassle-free as possible. My idea is to have a gmail account just for fail2ban to use for sending. Not sure if I've misunderstood what sendmail/postfix does... are they intended to work like this?
[07:42] <rusty0101> I haven't any experience with Win8, so I don't know if it's doing something to where Windows is keeping boot files and folders. If it is related to win8, I would suspect that '/cow' is a file or folder that normally shows up (perhaps hidden) in the windows boot partition.
[07:43] <llutz> james____: its easier to use a simple mta like ssmtp/msmtp for that. there should be config-examples in the wiki
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | blkbrdsr71
[07:43] <james____> llutz: thanks, I'll take a look. The documentation for fail2ban seems to suggest you are restricted to either mail or sendmail...
[07:44] <blkbrdsr71> thanks so much lotuspsychje  :)
[07:44] <llutz> james____: most mailservers have an "sendmail" replacement, so do ssmtp/msmtp. so they both should do fine
[07:45] <james____> llutz: interesting... so just to I understand it, you're saying ssmtp or msmtp can masquerade as sendmail and fail2ban doesn't know otherwise?
[07:45] <llutz> james____: basically, yes
[07:45] <james____> llutz: okay, I'll try that, thanks!
[07:48] <LarsN> I have a virtual machine running windows 7 that's joined to a corporate domain.  I have configured samba on my Ubuntu host computer.  I set sn smbpasswd for the user I would like to make a share available for.  However when I try to attach to the drive from within Windows I get "The network folder specified is currently mapped using a different username and password"
[07:49] <LarsN> any suggestions on what tiny bit of idiocy I have going on that's preventing what should be an easy project from completing?
[08:01] <helmut_> hi
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> helmut_:hi
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> hi
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> any packages for creating techno sounds on ubuntu or groovebox software?
[08:03] <onr> lotuspsychje: ardour, yoshimi, hydrogen
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> onr: tnx mate lemme try those :p
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> onr: hydrogen is looking nice tnx!
[08:06] <onr> lotuspsychje: you're welcome
[08:07] <Guest99937> i cant get the fglrx driver to work and i have a problem with over/underscanning on HDMI. how do i get things in right scale?
[08:09] <paulens12> hello, i'm trying to boot ubuntu 13 live usb on my tablet (want to test it with touch screen). so i made the live usb with unetbootin for windows, booted from it, and got to the unetbootin menu, but it doesn't recognize my keyboard
[08:09] <zyngawow> Hello, can anyone help me? I have problems with my GPU. Most programs with something graphically "intense"(videos, games) stop working if I resize the window.
[08:11] <paulens12> eh...
[08:11] <paulens12> anyone active?
[08:13] <BACbKA> host system is 32bit ubuntu LTS 12.04.2, d/l-ed guest .iso off http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest which is ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso, but it doesn't boot (FATAL: No bootable media) in vbox. If I change the ISO to the Debian debian-6.0.7-i386-netinst.iso, it boots. What am I doing wrong?
[08:14] <bekks> BACbKA: Did you check the md5 sum of the iso?
[08:14] <juular> BACbKA: wrong version of vbox ?
[08:14] <BACbKA> bekks doing as we speak
[08:15] <bekks> juular: Every vbox version since 1.x was/is able too boot from an iso :)
[08:15] <BACbKA> juular the vbox off the stock repo
[08:15] <JAF2801> hello
[08:15] <juular> BACbKA: that is  kinda old .
[08:15] <juular> bekks: i know but the efi thing is new
[08:15] <bekks> BACbKA: I'd use the official vbox version from their official website.
[08:16] <bekks> juular: you dont need UEFI emulation in a vm to boot 13.04
[08:17] <paulens12> hello, i'm trying to boot ubuntu 13 live usb on my tablet (want to test it with touch screen). so i made the live usb with unetbootin for windows, booted from it, and got to the unetbootin menu, but it doesn't recognize my keyboard
[08:17] <JAF2801> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[08:17] <BACbKA> bekks ouch, doesn't match the ubuntuhashes page!!!
[08:17] <paulens12> can i somehow re-bind keys so i can use vol up/down and windows keys?
[08:18] <BACbKA> got fdb2f8df1f3061f262e231e90783a55c  ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:18] <BACbKA> official seems  5d5d1a7da2a0659b163d4f8bd70fbe6f
[08:19] <BACbKA> will try to re-d/l
[08:19] <paulens12> BACbKA: you didn't finish downloading it...
[08:19] <JAF2801> HELLO!
[08:19] <paulens12> HI.
[08:19] <paulens12> no caps please.
[08:19] <juniour> hi have four hd partation  windows 8,ubuntu 12.04,bt5 r3 and last one is for personal files
[08:19] <BACbKA> paulens12: I sincerely hope my browser mis-alerted me the d/l has finished rather than I've got a trojan
[08:20] <JAF2801> No cApS?
[08:20] <juniour> now i reinstalled win 8 i wont get boot ment for ubunt and bt5r3
[08:20] <juniour> plz help
[08:20] <ctxmen> no known trojan modifies iso images
[08:20] <paulens12> what's boot ment?
[08:20] <paulens12> xD
[08:20] <bekks> !grub2 | juniour
[08:20] <paulens12> oh, menu...
[08:20] <JAF2801> !grub2 whats grub 2
[08:21] <bekks> JAF2801: Read the link :)
[08:22] <paulens12> so, can someone please assist me booting ubuntu live usb without keyboard?
[08:24] <BACbKA> thanks, folks!
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> onr: tnx again for hydrogen its most amazing package
[08:37] <paulens12> ugh... can anyone help me please?
[08:37] <Inoki> Folks, anybody managed to get the Friends App working on Xubuntu?
[08:41] <kjldfslkj> can someone tell me the difference between x86_64 and Amd64 and if say x86_64 pre-compiled apps are compatable with amd64 installation?
[08:42] <kjldfslkj> I know one is intel and supports both 32bit and 64bit apps.  I just don't know if amd64 and intel 64 are compatable with one another
[08:43] <juular> kjldfslkj: i dont think that are compatible with each other
[08:43] <TheVoid> Hi. I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 a couple of days ago. I have no idea where all the settings are. The "system settings" app/pane;/thingy has almost nothing, like I want my ibus preferences GUI, and flash player settings gui etc, but cannot find where the hell they're listed
[08:43] <TheVoid> halp
[08:44] <kjldfslkj> TheVoid: check the dash board apps
[08:45] <TheVoid> ok
[08:45] <TheVoid> oo isee
[08:45] <TheVoid> thanks
[08:53] <pers3us> pers3us: Meh.
[08:53] <Guest99937> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-11 - System error)
[08:53] <ctxmen> don't talk to yourself
[08:54] <Guest99937> canonical partners ppa enabled give the above error during apt-get update
[09:07] <ivom> lotuspsychje: ah
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> ivom: :p
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> howto migrate ufw to another host?
[09:13] <xubuntu> hello !
[09:14] <vic> av realise wifi is slower in ubuntu 13.04.. what causes this
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> !details | vic
[09:15] <ctxmen> everything is slower in new versions of ubuntu because it is more bloated with advertisement
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ctxmen
[09:16] <onr> !xubuntu | ctxmen
[09:16] <ctxmen> trolling not allowed here?
[09:16] <winky> hey everyone
[09:17] <vic> in ubuntu 12.10 my wifi connection speed was 30kbs but in ubuntu 13.04 it is 10kbs, i use the same isp. even with windows 8 wifi connects at 30kbs... i want to know  why the difference
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> vic: can you tell us what network card you have?
[09:18] <vic> atheros network card
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> vic: did you check additional drivers?
[09:18] <vic> yes
[09:19] <winky> I have a  problem booting my other machine crashing into initramfs (crypted disk, didn't get promped with passwd field). Tried googling - got to enter the crypted disk but can't run lvm vgchange -a y (/bin/sh: lvm: not found). Any ideas? :)
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !info denyhosts | ivom
[09:21] <ivom> thx
[09:23] <vic> how do i check the exact version of atheros network card/
[09:24] <winky> anyone on that initramfs thing?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | vic
[09:25] <paulens> can someone help me with live usb?
[09:26] <paulens> i have a ubuntu live usb
[09:27] <paulens> i can boot to grub, but my keyboard doesn't work there
[09:28] <paulens> so i only have vol up/down, power, windows buttons and rotate switch. it understands vol up as "b", vol down as "c" and rotate switch as "o". it doesn't respond to the other keys at all
[09:28] <paulens> maybe i can edit the files in the usb and re-bind the controls to those keys?
[09:32] <paulens> so my problem is basically that grub doesn't detect my usb keyboard
[09:32] <paulens> and there's no automatic option
[09:43] <TheVoid> is there any way I can make the Synaptic Package Manager use a SOCKS proxy? It only has options for a "HTTP proxy" and "FTP proxy"
[09:43] <TheVoid> nevermind, fixed it by opening synaptic in a terminal using proxychains
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> paulens  is that a wireless keyboard?
[09:47] <F41L> Hey, I'm unable to have the setting of the unity bar's autohide reveal sensitivity to save. It continues to drop back to default, which makes it entirely too hard to unhide the unity bar with a touchpad. Any ideas?
[09:48] <Guest99163> ubuntukylin怎么用
[09:50] <nyuszika7h> !zh | Guest99937
[09:50] <nyuszika7h> sorry, wrong one
[09:51] <nyuszika7h> that other guest left
[09:52] <ctxmen> wow there seems to be a channel for every fucking country
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> ctxmen  mind your language
[09:53] <ctxmen> -.-
[09:55] <lelz> hello
[10:06] <anti_> Can you still install new software on Ubuntu 10.10 without upgrading to a newer release?
[10:08] <qin> !10.10
[10:08] <Paddy_NI> If I want to upgrade my kernel to 3.8.11 from "http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8.11-raring/" should I grab the two amd64 packages (I have a 64 bit processor) and the package marked "all"?  Oh and is there anything I am missing
[10:08] <anti_> qin does End of life mean the repositories are taken down?
[10:09] <qin> anti_: What happent when you try: sudo apt-get update;
[10:10] <Alexa> Zna li neko kako da onemogucim built-in tastaturu na lap topu?
[10:11] <anti_> qin I can't access it right now, the computer isn't here
[10:12] <Alexa> I am sorry, I didnt notice I entered english channel
[10:12] <Alexa> anyway, how to disable built in keyboard ?
[10:13] <tachyons> Please update the topic, 10.04 ,11.10 and 8.04 are no longer supported
[10:14] <qin> anti_: better upgrade... http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/
[10:15] <Fira> Um...
[10:16] <Fira> Running ubuntu server, I configured interfaces w/ nameservers statically in /etc/network/interfaces, it seemed to work at first, but not anymore after a reboot. The interfaces are up, IP connectivity works, but /etc/resolv.conf is empty.
[10:16] <Fira> Any thoughts X_x' ? I'm lost
[10:17] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:17] <hulu> helo
[10:18] <hulu> i want to custom /etc/skel,but the livecd create default user not with /etc/skel
[10:18] <Fira> sigh
[10:18] <lukecarrier> good one, freenode
[10:18] <hulu> who can help me
[10:18] <lukecarrier> hulu, nobody, unless you ask your question! ;-)
[10:21] <cfhowlett> !details|hulu,
[10:30] <hulu> lukecarrier: can you help me
[10:40] <qin> Fira, did you try to set nameserver 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf
[10:45] <Daekdroom> Does Ubuntu 13.04 have HDMI audio for my HD5450 out-of-the-box?
[10:45] <Daekdroom> It doesn't show up under System Settings > Sound
[10:57] <qin> That's very interesting...
[11:00] <bushmann> hi, has anyone of you ever experienced the following error when trying to launch pulseaudio?
[11:00] <bushmann> pulseaudio: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpulsecore-3.0.so: undefined symbol: orc_program_new_from_static_bytecode
[11:03] <hulu> helo
[11:03] <hulu> when packaging my own livecd, putting the files in /etc/skel will not copy the files to the default live user profile
[11:03] <yashh> guys the android chat room???
[11:04] <hulu> who can help me
[11:04] <yashh> #android
[11:07] <hulu> who can help me
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> !patience | hulu
[11:08] <hulu> ubottu: ic sorry
[11:08] <hulu> lotuspsychje: sorry
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> hulu: just paste your question once in a while in the chat
[11:08] <Ben64> hulu: nobody can help you apparently. you've been here for like 5 days asking the same question and you've been given many answers, yet you still come back
[11:09] <dRagonsRage> anyone know any basic c++ project that I can get involved with?
[11:09] <mizifih> hulu: whats going on?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !programming | dRagonsRage
[11:09] <dRagonsRage> !programming?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[11:10] <hulu> Ben64: sorry! i'm finding answer
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> dRagonsRage: try ##programming sorry
[11:10] <dRagonsRage> ok cool
[11:10] <Ben64> hulu: no... you're ignoring the answers and keep asking about skel
[11:10] <66MAACJVP> hello! does anybody know where Yarssr stores preferences?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> dRagonsRage: or you want to contribute to ubuntu's dev?
[11:10] <dRagonsRage> ##programming
[11:10] <dRagonsRage> oops
[11:10] <dRagonsRage> lol
[11:10] <dRagonsRage> yeah, ubuntu dev
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> !dev | dRagonsRage
[11:11] <hulu> Ben64: i had found this
[11:11] <dRagonsRage> sorry, Im quite the n00b so you may have to show some patience. hehe
[11:11] <hulu> Ben64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1373955
[11:11] <dRagonsRage> !dev
[11:11] <hulu> Ben64: where i can change the default live user profile
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> 66MAACJVP: do you know rss indicator, its very nice package
[11:12] <Ben64> hulu: ok? well did you read that? it says you can't add stuff to skel and have it show up for the live user
[11:12] <paulens> sorry i got disconnected...
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> gaussblurinc: try this one mate, http://code.google.com/p/feedindicator/
[11:13] <dRagonsRage> thanks guys, gonna start reading now
[11:13] <paulens> MonkeyDust: no, it's a wired usb keyboard and seems like it doesn't even get the power from the usb port (num lock light doesn't turn on)
[11:13] <hulu> Ben64: why
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: lol you got a hard one :p
[11:14] <gaussblurinc> lotuspsychje: good, thanks. But I need my feeds from Yarssr. When I added new one, Yarssr falls down and doesn't want to show gui ;\
[11:14] <paulens> and i have only 1 usb3 port, so i need to use an usb hub. it boots normally with the hub though
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> gausblurinc: define 'falls down'? crash?
[11:16] <gaussblurinc> lotuspsychje: yeah, crash
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> gaussblurinc: can you try to launch yarssr from terminal, to see a usefull error?
[11:17] <gaussblurinc> lotuspsychje: yes, I do this. " Not a HASH reference at /usr/share/yarssr/Yarssr/Parser.pm line 83."
[11:17] <debiantoruser> Where i can get help about AMD-APP-SDK 2.8 on ubuntu 13.04?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> gaussblurinc: did you try adding a valid rss stream?
[11:19] <gaussblurinc> lotuspsychje: I think so. But if not, I can't change it, because I can't open gui window for this. Now I need a folder, where these feeds stored
[11:19] <mizifih> Woot!?
[11:19] <mizifih> ZNZ running!
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> gaussblurinc: its a bug mate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yarssr/+bug/1012065
[11:21] <cloneG> hello would you help me fixing my ubuntu 3d acceleration graphics?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> gaussblurinc: i really reccomend feedindicator from google for ubuntu
[11:21] <cloneG> I am using a 12.04 ubuntu with nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[11:21] <mizifih> Just want to spread how happy I am with Ubuntu 13.04
[11:21] <cloneG> I found a thread with the same error but
[11:22] <cloneG> the solution posted wont fix it
[11:22] <paulens> eh...
[11:22] <cloneG> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=114091
[11:22] <gaussblurinc> lotuspsychje: yes, thanks. I will see it.
[11:22] <cloneG> I am in darrinh shoes
[11:22] <mizifih> Looks like Ubuntu got it's way. I believe this error handing was already implemented at 12.04, but it's nice to see its here
[11:22] <paulens> can someone please help me with grub not recognizing my keyboard?
[11:22] <cloneG> last post
[11:22] <paulens> and there is no countdown, so it doesn't boot automatically
[11:23] <cloneG> oh grub!
[11:23] <paulens> so i'm stuck in the grub menu
[11:23] <cloneG> I just installed grup-repair pal
[11:23] <mizifih> And I've been using it for like 48 hours, I have the feeling that everything was made by ubuntu and ported for windows (XBMC, SABNzbd, Sickbeard, Couchpotato)
[11:23] <cloneG> let me search for the thread
[11:23] <paulens> cloneG: i can't get into ubuntu
[11:23] <mizifih> I mean, they're python, but...
[11:24] <cloneG> paulens: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:24] <cloneG> paulens: use a live cd
[11:24] <paulens> cloneG: i can't boot from the live usb because i'm stuck in grub
[11:25] <paulens> cloneG: the grub in the usb
[11:25] <cloneG> paulens: weird config you have
[11:25] <paulens> cloneG: i'm just trying to install ubuntu
[11:25] <cloneG> paulens: you can choose to reinstall grub where ever you like with boot-repair
[11:26] <paulens> cloneG: but for that i need to boot from the usb...
[11:26] <paulens> cloneG: FOR THAT I NEED TO BOOT INTO LINUX. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT PASSING GRUB
[11:26] <paulens> cloneG: you must understand that i have no access to linux
[11:26] <paulens> and sorry for caps
[11:27] <cloneG> paulens: I see... I think I once have the same problem...
[11:27] <cloneG> paulens: had*
[11:27] <paulens> so i have the volume, power and windows buttons, and auto-rotate switch
[11:27] <cloneG> paulens: do you have any other Os under grub control?
[11:27] <paulens> and volume buttons are recognized as b and c
[11:28] <paulens> no
[11:28] <paulens> it's just a fresh made live usb
[11:28] <paulens> well, i can still boot into windows, if i remove the usb...
[11:28] <paulens> but i want ubuntu now :D
[11:28] <cloneG> paulens: do you want to keep windows?
[11:29] <paulens> well, basically i want to see how ubuntu works with touch screen, before installing it over windows
[11:29] <paulens> and if it's fine, i'll install windows
[11:29] <paulens> so for now, i just want to boot the live usb and test it
[11:29] <paulens> and wubi isn't a solution here, because my SSD is nearly full
[11:30] <cloneG> and you dont have cd driver
[11:30] <paulens> nope, it's a tablet and there's no cd burner in it
[11:31] <cloneG> paulens: use a virtual machine
[11:31] <paulens> that requires some disk space...
[11:31] <paulens> and it's VERY laggy
[11:31] <cloneG> paulens: virtual pc or virtual box would do
[11:31] <paulens> my CPU isn't very good, you know...
[11:31] <paulens> i tried that, but i got an ultimate lag...
[11:32] <paulens> it just can't emulate a whole machine with that CPU...
[11:32] <cloneG> paulens: I dont see many options left..
[11:32] <paulens> eh...
[11:32] <paulens> well, i thought maybe i could set it like
[11:32] <paulens> after 10 seconds to choose the 1st option automatically
[11:33] <cloneG> paulens: I would simply install it to test it... as long as you backup your windows data
[11:33] <paulens> i can't install it
[11:33] <paulens> because i can't boot the usb
[11:34] <cloneG> paulens: I never attempted what you are trying to do... I always test OS on pc
[11:34] <paulens> oh, i can install it on an external HDD, using another computer
[11:38] <cloneG> I want ubuntu 3d acceleration back
[11:39] <cloneG> I am in darrinh 's shoes in this thread: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=5b5853c2dda95ce3cefef86cde8bc6f8&t=114091&page=2
[11:39] <cloneG> but that fix didnt work for me
[11:39] <cloneG> ubuntu 12.04 nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[11:40] <BluesKaj> HI all
[11:41] <malek> hello
[11:42] <cloneG> hello
[11:42] <cloneG> I want ubuntu 12.04 3D acceleration back. I am in Darrinh's shoes in this thread: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=5b5853c2dda95ce3cefef86cde8bc6f8&t=114091&page=2 but that fix didnt work, any suggestion? the drivers installed are nvidia-current-updates and the graphic card is a nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[11:43] <malek> how are you??
[11:43] <cloneG> upset
[11:44] <cloneG> ubuntu was working fine but now  its a crap
[11:44] <malek> im in xubuntu 12.10
[11:44] <malek> what about you???
[11:44] <cloneG> ubuntu 12.04
[11:44] <malek> good
[11:44] <cloneG> 64 bit
[11:44] <cloneG> no
[11:44] <cloneG> not good
[11:44] <cloneG> not now
[11:44] <malek> why??
[11:45] <cloneG> because the system is not using the graphic card cappabilities
[11:46] <cloneG> I cant run blender, I cant run second life, I cant run stellarium, I cant run videogames...
[11:46] <cloneG> its a crap
[11:46]  * bekks runs all that since 10y, on 64bit.
[11:46] <malek> Knew the card system
[11:47] <bekks> malek: What do you mean?
[11:47] <malek> driver
[11:47] <malek> graphic card
[11:47] <bekks> Pleas state a full sentence :)
[11:48] <cloneG> I thought that was the trouble but now I am starting to doubt it
[11:48] <cloneG> when starting the system the graphic environment wont appear...
[11:48] <bekks> cloneG: I'm not having problemns using a recent nvidia graphics card and the closed driver.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> cloneG, strange, that card should run fine with the nvidia-current driver , run dkms status in the terminal to make sure the driver is being used
[11:49] <cloneG> I am driven into a tty console instead..
[11:49] <cloneG> and if I startx:
[11:49] <mizifih> PuTTy FTW
[11:50] <cloneG> could not open device file /dev/nvidia0 output/input error appears
[11:50] <bekks> cloneG: Then the driver isnt loaded.
[11:50] <cloneG> bingo
[11:50] <bekks> cloneG: And you dont use startx nowadays.
[11:51] <cloneG> sudo service lightdm start?
[11:51] <bekks> correct.
[11:51] <cloneG> that was giving more problems with a file called .Xauthority
[11:51] <bekks> cloneG: But you have to install the nvidia driver correctly, before.
[11:51] <malek> i'm fine in xubuntu 12.10
[11:51] <cloneG> I did using synaptic
[11:51] <paulens> oh, i just noticed a weird thing
[11:52] <paulens> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635176/
[11:52] <cloneG> linux-headers-generic --> nvidia-current-updates
[11:52] <paulens> all the commands end with "--", isn't any flag missing there?
[11:52] <cloneG> adding the ppa
[11:52] <bekks> cloneG: which ppa?
[11:52] <paulens> btw, it's grub.cfg
[11:53] <bekks> paulens: No, nothing is missing there.
[11:53] <cloneG> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu
[11:53] <paulens> bekks: ok, thanks...
[11:53] <bekks> cloneG: So did you investigate why the driver isnt loaded yet?
[11:54] <paulens> bekks: btw, is there a way to add an automatic choice to that menu? so i don't need to select it manually each time?
[11:54] <bekks> !grub2 > paulens
[11:54] <cloneG> dkms does nothing
[11:54] <bekks> cloneG: So did you investigate why the driver isnt loaded yet?
[11:55] <ouyes> why I can't compile gcc 4.4.3 under ubuntu 12.04?
[11:55] <cloneG> bekks: how?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> dkms status only tells you what drivers are loaded
[11:55] <bekks> cloneG: By trying to manually load it, e.g., and investigating the dmesg output
[11:56] <cloneG> bekks: would you mind being more precise?
[11:56] <dakotawulfy> hi
[11:57] <bekks> cloneG: "modprobe nvidia" and "dmesg"
[11:57] <cfhowlett> dakotawulfy, greetings
[11:58] <cloneG> sudo modprobe nvidia
[11:58] <cloneG> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.privNvidia, it will be ignored in a future release.
[11:58] <cloneG> FATAL: Module nvidia_current_updates not found.
[11:58] <cloneG> the .privNvidia was a backup I made the time I installed propietary nvidia driver
[11:59] <cloneG> but the fatal module nvidia_current_updates found might be a clue'
[11:59] <cloneG> meaning the nvidia module isnt loaded?
[12:00] <bekks> Correct.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> don't think it's even installed
[12:00] <bekks> As being told three times now :)
[12:00] <paulens_> i hate browser clients so much xD
[12:00] <cloneG> how do I install it?
[12:01] <bekks> !nvidia | cloneG
[12:01] <paulens_> so, can i set the default grub entry? xD
[12:01] <malek> What parents program displays the hard drive partitions??
[12:01] <bekks> malek: sudo fdisk -l
[12:02] <paulens_> the documentation says GRUB_DEFAULT= setting in /etc/default/grub;
[12:02] <thecodethinker> What is a good tool for streaming to justin.tv?
[12:02] <paulens_> but i can't find that folder in my live usb...
[12:02] <malek> thanks bekks
[12:03] <l0lh4rd> any methods of accessing blocked sites in xubuntu
[12:03] <paulens_> use a proxy?
[12:03] <thecodethinker> l0lh4rd: it depends on how the sites are blocked
[12:03] <BluesKaj> cloneG, at the tty , sudp apt-get install nvidia-current , then reboot
[12:03] <bekks> l0lh4rd: Ask you administrator to unblock them?
[12:03] <thecodethinker> ^
[12:03] <BluesKaj> sudo rather cloneG
[12:04] <l0lh4rd> what about blocked sites by the government
[12:04] <cloneG> but nvidia-current-updates it is already installed I read somewhere nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates are excluding
[12:05] <cloneG> if you have one installed the other one is not needed
[12:05] <cloneG> is that true?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> l0lh4rd, what gov't and what site ...
[12:05] <bekks> cloneG: They are excluding. Having installed one, you cant install the other in parallel.
[12:06] <cloneG> I have already installed nvidia current updates
[12:06] <cloneG> do I need nvidia current?
[12:06] <l0lh4rd> Youtube was blocked after a video posted about criticizing Islam
[12:07] <cloneG> how do I load the kernel module?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> cloneG, installing the nvidfia driver is suppoed to remove the the installed driver in the process
[12:07] <cloneG> I am a bit confused
[12:07] <bekks> cloneG: modprobe
[12:07] <cfhowlett> l0lh4rd, such gov't don't take kindly to bypassing the YT blocks.  better perhaps that you don't tempt their wrath ...
[12:09] <l0lh4rd> I've been using Hotspot Shield on Windows to access youtube
[12:09] <BluesKaj> cloneG, whenever you install a graphics driver , a reboot is required for it to load properly
[12:09] <cfhowlett> l0lh4rd, see vpn
[12:10] <l0lh4rd> any free vpn for linux???
[12:10] <bekks> l0lh4rd: openvpn
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !vpn
[12:10] <dakotawulfy> cloneG have u tried the jockey-gtk‎
[12:10] <thecodethinker> What is a good tool for streaming to justin.tv?
[12:11] <malek> why vpn to access  youtube ??
[12:11] <lucido> how can I change the various locales, possibly selecting from a list?
[12:11] <cloneG> http://postimg.org/image/e0dv5k9rr/
[12:11] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG that it will install it and let u pick what driver to use
[12:11] <malek> www.youtube.com
[12:11] <cfhowlett> malek, some gov'ts block some sites ...
[12:12]  * BluesKaj backs off , ok , enough cooks ...
[12:12] <cloneG> see the image? nvidia-current-updates is installed and modprobe gives the fatal module not found
[12:12] <cloneG> and I did install the package in another session
[12:13] <malek> oo yeah but why block youtube
[12:13] <cloneG> jockey-gtk??
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !ot|malek,
[12:13] <cloneG> jockey-common and jockey-gtk already installed
[12:13] <bekks> malek: Because those governments dont like videos posted on YT.
[12:13] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG ok sorry did not see all the info was it working right with another kernel
[12:14] <cloneG> yeah I am in an older kernel
[12:14] <bekks> cloneG: Then it is no wonder it doesnt work. :)
[12:14] <cloneG> but neither the older kernel has the 3d acceleration
[12:14] <dakotawulfy> ok
[12:14] <malek> im sorry<ubottu>
[12:14] <dakotawulfy>  hold on
[12:15] <dakotawulfy> had that problem
[12:15] <cloneG> how did you fix it?
[12:15] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG  ok so the new kernel works but the old one does not ???
[12:16] <cloneG> just the opposite
[12:16] <malek> what is a good desktop environment for ubuntu??
[12:16] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG i was noat able to get my old kernel to work
[12:16] <cloneG> well indeed none of them work properly
[12:16] <cfhowlett> malek, unity is the default ...
[12:16] <bekks> malek: unity, kde, xfce, lxde, etc.
[12:16] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG after i uninstalled the driver
[12:17] <cloneG> the older one lets me log in to desktop but in default driver config
[12:17] <malek> unity is bad
[12:17] <bekks> malek: Thats just your personal opinion. :)
[12:17] <dakotawulfy>  to use the old kernel u need to remove the driver in the new one do it with the jocky-gtk
[12:17] <cloneG> I want ubuntu 12.04 3D acceleration back. I am in Darrinh's shoes in this thread: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=5b5853c2dda95ce3cefef86cde8bc6f8&t=114091&page=2 but that fix didnt work, any suggestion? the drivers installed are nvidia-current-updates and the graphic card is a nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[12:18] <cloneG> remove the driver with jockey.gtk?¿
[12:18] <cloneG> whats that a gui?
[12:19] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG  then after u reboot go into old kernel and use jocky-gtk to install it on the old one then the new kernel probably not going to work
[12:19] <dakotawulfy> yes
[12:19] <dakotawulfy> to install the diver
[12:19] <cloneG> dakotawulfy thanks I ll try that
[12:19] <dakotawulfy> driver
[12:21] <malek> byy
[12:21] <omkar_> hi i have installed ubuntu 13.04 ,but while powering off the machine it halts at a point and never turns off the power
[12:22] <st_> help
[12:23] <dakotawulfy> omkar_ u need to see if your getting an error  could be a bug one of the 2
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !details|st_  no details, no help.  911 this ain't.
[12:23] <st_>  help quickstart
[12:24] <st_> help quickstart
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !details|st_,   for best results, provide details!
[12:24] <dakotawulfy> omkar_ on shutdown something might be hanging it
[12:24] <omkar_> yeah but what?
[12:24] <omkar_> i have acer 5745G laptop
[12:24] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: it fails to load the nvidia-current-updates and asks me to read the log: http://pastebin.com/iqNaV5Aa
[12:24] <omkar_> can the same info be grapbed now?/
[12:24] <omkar_> i think the logs might have it
[12:25] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: but I dont understand that log
[12:25] <dakotawulfy> well hit esc when your splash screen is  going see if u see any info
[12:25] <dakotawulfy> omkar_ on shutdown
[12:26] <omkar_> yeo i always have esc pressed when i shutdown
[12:26] <trent> On Ubuntu 12.04.02 lts is there anyway to make the scroll bar wider in the applications menu?
[12:26] <omkar_> it has something related to acpid
[12:26] <omkar_> is there any log which i can  check for the same ?
[12:27] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the point is how do I run jockey without graphic enviroment?
[12:28] <dakotawulfy> did u  make the drive not active with jocky-gtk then reboot to same kernel and  it should go i to it  with out the nvida driver loaded
[12:29] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: not active?
[12:29] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the driver is not active at all that is the problem!
[12:29] <huss> [request] working guide for nvidia drivers for 13.04?
[12:29] <dakotawulfy> right
[12:29] <omkar_> ?
[12:29] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG ok
[12:30] <dakotawulfy> did u get to jocky-gtk
[12:30] <dakotawulfy> cloneG  did u get to jocky-gtk
[12:30] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: at the jockey log you can see the warnings telling the modules cant be found
[12:31] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: yeah jockey works from terminal
[12:31] <trent> anyone? On Ubuntu 12.04.02 lts is there anyway to make the scroll bar wider in the applications menu?
[12:32] <crazyhorse> how do i trunk a file?
[12:32] <crazyhorse> trunc*
[12:33] <dakotawulfy> cloneG ok u got nvidia driver right
[12:33] <jackw411> hey guys - im trying to work out how to open a html document with my default browser from cmdline
[12:33] <dakotawulfy> or mean u want nvidia
[12:33] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: nvidia-current-updates
[12:33] <crazyhorse> truncate -s 0 /filename.txt
[12:34] <gustav> jackw411: What's your default driver?
[12:34] <gustav> jackw411: Err, browser.
[12:34] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: from synaptic after getting x.swat updates ppa
[12:34] <dakotawulfy> cloneG ok your kernel is the 3.2.0-40
[12:34] <jackw411> gustav: set my default to be nightly - so when i do x-www-browser it runs a new instance of firefox-trunk
[12:34] <dakotawulfy> i had this same problem
[12:35] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the one that lets me use graphics with no 3d acceleration
[12:35] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: yes
[12:35] <jackw411> when i do xdg-open <file> however, it runs default firefox
[12:35] <gustav> jackw411: Ok, sounds like it's working then?
[12:35] <MinIRC> hello guys is there someone who have succeeded creating an USB with Ubuntu on it bootable at start up on OS X ?
[12:36] <bekks> MinIRC: Thats not possible. Either you boot the USB stick, or the OS installed on your host.
[12:36] <moppers> i think he means use OS X to create the USB
[12:36] <dakotawulfy> ok
[12:36] <jackw411> i have an alias set up for firefox-trunk as 'nightly' - i would like to be able to do something like nightly <filename> gustav - and it open the file in the current browser I have open in a new tab - is it possible?
[12:36] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG think i know why
[12:37] <trent> wish i had a mac....
[12:37] <dakotawulfy> cloneG go in to the new kernel  remove it the one that is working
[12:37] <gustav> jackw411: Is it all Firefox? Doesn't 'firefox <url>' always open in the open browser?
[12:37] <cloneG> dakotawulfy:?
[12:37] <daam> hello: i have a problem setting up my irc on 12.04.  My ports seem to be closed and I tried working with ufw, and portforwarding on the router. I can access this irc thru chat.freenode.net:8000, but 6667 seems to be inaccessible. What sort of info should I provide for support on this?
[12:38] <MinIRC> bekks: and moppers  i have a dvd and a two usb, and what i would like to do is to install ubuntu on the usb and then run it from there… in the os x
[12:38] <dakotawulfy> cloneG  U have to remove the driver working in the working kernel  the new one
[12:38] <trent> @ daam On Ubuntu 12.04.02 lts is there anyway to make the scroll bar wider in the applications menu?
[12:38] <bekks> MinIRC: Thats not possible. Either you boot Ubuntu, or OSX.
[12:38] <paulens_> hello again xD
[12:38] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the new kernel is the one not workig
[12:39] <bekks> MinIRC: You could your virtualbox, though.
[12:39] <dakotawulfy> cloneG
[12:39] <MinIRC> bekks:  of coarse, of coarse…. but i would like to boot only ubuntu on my mac..not the os X
[12:39] <dakotawulfy> cloneG ok go to the old one
[12:39] <cfhowlett> MinIRC, perhaps virtualbox?
[12:39] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: and I uninstall the driver packages...
[12:39] <dakotawulfy> cloneG remove it reboot
[12:39] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: and then?
[12:40] <dakotawulfy> use jocky-gtk
[12:40] <daam> trent. I am a total noob, and can not help you.
[12:40] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: that easy?
[12:40] <trent> daam me too lol
[12:40] <A1Recon> Any help regarding HDMI audio on Ubuntu?? Please help!!
[12:40] <dakotawulfy> cloneG then reboot go to new kernel and use jocky-gtk to install new one
[12:41] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: how would the kernel modules load for not staying packages?
[12:41] <dakotawulfy> I had a problem with mine
[12:41] <trent> hard to believe you can make the scroll bar usable thou
[12:41] <jackw411> any1 give me any idea of how to get sound using ubuntu with awesome window manager?
[12:41] <MinIRC> cfhowlett: i already had this, but i'm not satisfied, so what i'm looking to is to boot ubuntu from usb
[12:42] <dakotawulfy>  cloneGi  after i got it working the  found out  the driver was not working in the old kernel
[12:42] <dakotawulfy> cloneG but the new one worked
[12:42] <cfhowlett> MinIRC, and NOT dual boot?  usb is notoriously slow and flakey compared to regular install
[12:42] <dakotawulfy> I am running the 3.2.0-40 now
[12:42] <daam> help with setting up my router/firewall on my 12.04 anyone?
[12:43] <daam> hello: i have a problem setting up my irc on 12.04.  My ports seem to be closed and I tried working with ufw, and portforwarding on the router. I can access this irc thru chat.freenode.net:8000, but 6667 seems to be inaccessible. What sort of info should I provide for support on this?
[12:43] <dakotawulfy> cloneG thats how i fixed it
[12:43] <MinIRC> cfhowlett:  not a dual boot, because i would like to use it no matter the hardware
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !mac|MinIRC,   maybe see the link for help.
[12:44] <jackw411> anybody recommend me a decent command line based music player?
[12:44] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: sketching...you want me to uninstall nvidia-current-updates from the 3.2.0.40 kernel....then reboot ...and start with 3.5.0 kernel but it wont let me use graphic environment
[12:44] <gustav> jackw411: mpg321.
[12:45] <jackw411> gustav: thanks
[12:45] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: it doesnt let me now
[12:45] <trent> why in the world would you even want to install ubontu on a mac?
[12:45] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: anyway I ll give it a try
[12:46] <MinIRC> trent:  LaTex -) i don't like the mac version of it
[12:46] <dakotawulfy> cloneG make sure you are in the right kernel when u do the stuff
[12:46] <MinIRC> trent: and some industrial programs like Cadence
[12:47] <dakotawulfy> cloneG Like i said  that how i got mine to work
[12:47] <MinIRC> thank you ubottu  for the link -)  and cfhowlett  for the tips
[12:47] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily
[12:48] <daam> hello: i have a problem setting up my irc on 12.04.  My ports seem to be closed and I tried working with ufw, and portforwarding on the router. I can access this irc thru chat.freenode.net:8000, but 6667 seems to be inaccessible. What sort of info should I provide for support on this?
[12:48] <daam> I set it up so that I opened UDP, TCP ports 113, 1024-5000, 6660-6669 on my router. This is what it says on my router logs:
[12:48] <daam> [INFO]	Sun May 05 21:47:05 2013	Blocked outgoing TCP packet from 192.168.0.190:44881 to 54.239.186.47:80 as FIN:ACK received but there is no active connection
[12:48] <daam> [INFO]	Sun May 05 21:47:05 2013	Blocked outgoing TCP packet from 192.168.0.190:44881 to 54.239.186.47:80 as PSH:ACK received but there is no active connection
[12:48] <gustav> daam: Talk to your ISP. Has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[12:49] <contrapunctus> Hey folks...tried editing the sudoers file...but the script I want to be able to run without a password is still asking me for a password =\ This is the format, right? - [username or group] [terminal]=([as which user]) NOPASSWD: [script path]
[12:49] <dakotawulfy> daam  need to check if ports are open on your router
[12:49] <moppers> thats not the ISP unless the isp's router
[12:50] <gustav> Does Ubuntu run on routers?
[12:50] <moppers> daam you need to forward the ports from the router to your PC
[12:50] <paulens> hello, i have another question...
[12:51] <moppers> daam, but i dont see why the outgoing was blocked , that's a separate rule
[12:51] <paulens> i tried booting a live usb from 2 computers
[12:51] <paulens> one shows this: http://db.tt/gooFmqDM
[12:51] <lucido> is there a guided way to change the locale?
[12:51] <moppers> daam, i think you need to take another look at your router settings
[12:51] <daam> that's my wireless router... I don't think my isp is the issue. I am going to download a irc app on my android, running on the same router, and run it through mobile data, and isolate the problem.
[12:51] <zetheroo> how does one clear the cache?
[12:51] <jackw411> gustav: does mpg321 provide support for flac?
[12:51] <gustav> jackw411: I think so.
[12:51] <moppers> daam, its not your ISP
[12:51] <paulens> and the other one - this: http://db.tt/CKjUyHus
[12:51] <paulens> why is it different? O.o
[12:51] <paulens> why does the first one skip grub?
[12:52] <paulens> i want to skip grub on the second one...
[12:54] <dakotawulfy> daam  u got to have the router set up right  what irc program u using ???
[12:55] <daam> mozilla chatzilla dakotawulfy
[12:56] <gustav> jackw411: Though I can't find any info about it and I don't have any flac files.
[12:57] <wormfox> ?
[12:57] <gustav> jackw411: Maybe mplayer.
[12:58] <jackw411> gustav - yeah i couldn't find anything in the docs, just having a playabout now
[12:58] <gustav> jackw411: XMMS will work but it's X11. Here's a list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_media_players
[12:59] <jackw411> gustav: yeah we can safely say that mpg321 does not like flac :))))
[12:59] <gustav> Ah.
[12:59] <MinIRC> :|
[12:59] <gustav> jackw411: MPD is what you want.
[13:00] <dakotawulfy> daam what router u have
[13:00] <jackw411> cool gustav thanks
[13:00] <wormfox> hello
[13:00] <gustav> jackw411: You need a client for that thing.
[13:00] <cfhowlett> WormFood, greetings
[13:01] <jackw411> this is the last piece of the puzzle, using awesome win manager, sublime text 2, nightly build firefox, have llampp going now - gonna make code rain
[13:01] <wormfox> I'm new here
[13:01] <jackw411> just need something that gives me flac playback
[13:02] <gustav> jackw411: MPD runs in the background so it might be annoying, to some people, you control it with a client when you need to.
[13:02] <gustav> Can be accessed over the network as well, I think.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> jackw411, most players will play flac files , if not there usually plugins one can install
[13:02] <dakotawulfy>  jackw411 have u checked vlc
[13:03] <jackw411> dakotawulfy: no I havn't - but that isn't a bad idea!
[13:04] <dakotawulfy> works on almost anything
[13:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, VLC plays almost everything media
[13:06] <paulens> can someone tell me what partitions i need for ubuntu?
[13:06] <jackw411> paulens: a swap area + a partition to install
[13:07] <bekks> paulens: BAsically just one, and up to as many as you want. Usually, you have a separate swap partition, too.
[13:08] <dakotawulfy> paulens is nice to make a /home
[13:09] <ezioa> i have a bind server and it's not resolving local addresses
[13:09] <ezioa> here's my /etc/bind/named.conf.local
[13:09] <ezioa> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ddca46f688c87b6a4c8d
[13:09] <ezioa> here's my bb file https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ecbce0a2b9803d68141d
[13:09] <paulens> so, will i be installing apps on /home?
[13:09] <dakotawulfy> paulens that way u go to install a new install u can save your home
[13:09] <zetheroo> how do you empty the cache?
[13:09] <paulens> oh, ok
[13:09] <BluesKaj> !u | dakotawulfy
[13:10] <ezioa> zetheroo, me?
[13:10] <paulens> dakotawulfy: where are apps installed?
[13:10] <GodsFlaw> stupid question 1 of the day.  install 12.04 or 13.04
[13:10] <dakotawulfy> hehehe
[13:10] <zetheroo> ezioa: you?
[13:10] <ezioa> nm
[13:10] <yeats> zetheroo: you don't need to empty your memory cache - that's how linux handles memory
[13:11] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw, smart answer , 13.04
[13:11] <GodsFlaw> thanks blue
[13:11] <cfhowlett> GodsFlaw, depends.  if you NEED the greatest/latest/shiniest stuff, 13.04 ... and you'll get 9 months of support.  OR go 12.04 and get 5 years ...
[13:11] <yeats> cfhowlett: correction: 18 months of support
[13:11] <GodsFlaw> 13 upgraids though right?
[13:11] <GodsFlaw> I don't need a full re-install do i?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> yeats, oops.  right.  thanks.
[13:12] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw, depends what you're on now
[13:12] <GodsFlaw> nothing, first install.
[13:12] <GodsFlaw> if I instal 13 and 13.1 comes out will I have to re-install or just update.
[13:13] <dakotawulfy> paulens ok see if u make a /home portion that is were your user will be if u go to install a new install later down the road u don't have to format the drive just mount it when setting up then it will have all your stuff under user
[13:13] <dali> Does someone know what can cause this problem? http://i.imgur.com/tdXqFI4.png
[13:13] <BluesKaj> they all upgrade , but yes just do your updates/upgrades periodically /week and you'll be fine , GodsFlaw
[13:14] <zetheroo> why is it that when I perform this command "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" with sudo I get "permission denied" ?
[13:14] <bekks> Because sudo does not apply to >
[13:14] <BluesKaj> upgradew worked for me for yrs , GodsFlaw , sometimea clean is required if you don't use autoremove and autoclean much
[13:14] <dakotawulfy> u need to be sudo
[13:15] <Zehle> Hello! How do I get my raspberry pi(ubuntu) to run some programs on startup? :)
[13:15] <jrib> zetheroo: use "| sudo tee" instead of ">"
[13:15] <GodsFlaw> thanks blue.  stupid question 2.  I have my data drives serperate already.  Should I partision ubuntu into different areas or have it all on one drive?
[13:15] <paulens> ok so how much space should i give to each partition? i have 100GB and i'll mostly use it for downloads
[13:15] <yeats> !startup | zetheroo
[13:15] <yeats> zetheroo: sorry
[13:15] <dakotawulfy> well
[13:16] <yeats> !startup | Zehle
[13:16] <zetheroo> jrib: I just did "sudo su" and then repeated the command and it worked ;)
[13:16] <dakotawulfy> paulens  how many portion you  going to go with
[13:16] <dakotawulfy> 3 or 2
[13:16] <jrib> zetheroo: that's ok too but use "sudo -i" instead of "sudo su" next time
[13:16] <paulens> dakotawulfy: i guess swap, home and install
[13:17] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw, partitioning is usually a personal choice , prefer a / and /home partiton and a swap if you want , but if you plenty of RAM , swap isn't so necessary
[13:17] <dakotawulfy>  paulens swap  depends on your ramm
[13:17] <zetheroo> jrib: whats the diff? Is one unsafe?
[13:17] <paulens> dakotawulfy: it's my first time installing linux... and i have 4GB ram
[13:17] <jrib> zetheroo: sudo -i will sanitize the environment
[13:17] <Zehle> yeats: I'm in the command prompt only
[13:17] <lostinspace> how can I add a new distro to my grub? I installed it in another partition, without bootloader of course
[13:17] <yeats> !boot | Zehle
[13:18] <cfhowlett> lostinspace, sudo update grub didn't pick it up?
[13:18] <dakotawulfy> paulens i always make swap same size as ram but some people do not do that
[13:18] <doc-donkey> morning ! on 13.04 running on gnome i managed to have my minimize/maximise/close icons back via the tweak tool but i got used to having them on the left and cant seem to find what i shall do to put them back there. i fear every minute im spending with these icons on the right side will mess up my brain and do permanant damage to my cognitive reflex of closing a window
[13:18] <lostinspace> cfhowlett, ok
[13:19] <paulens> dakotawulfy: ok, so 4GB for swap... i don't really know what it will be used for, so i guess 4GB will be ok for me. now how much should i allocate for install?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> paulens, a full vanilla install usually takes less than 10 gigs for the /filesystem ...
[13:20] <lostinspace> cfhowlett, how can I remove an old distro from the menu?
[13:20] <bekks> paulens: Just use the available space for your installation - and create a swap partition as big as your RAM.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !grub|lostinspace,   yes you can edit grub to do that ... carefully
[13:20] <GodsFlaw> How does ram come into it?  thought you partitioned the data like websites users stuff just so you could upgraid them seperate?  My ram should be fine.
[13:20] <paulens> bekks: i wanthome
[13:21] <lostinspace> the last link! I missed it. Thank you
[13:21] <bekks> paulens: Then use about 20GB for /, RAM == SWAP, and the remaining space for /home
[13:21] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw, as a general rule if you have more than 4G RAM a swap becomes wasted space
[13:22] <BluesKaj> it doesn't get used
[13:22] <bekks> BluesKaj: Besides the fact that you canbt hibernate otherwise.
[13:22] <dakotawulfy> paulens well  so many people could tell u what to use and every one going to be different  maybe swap 4gig   the / partion maybe 40gig and  your /home  the rest  and feed back from anyone?
[13:22] <GodsFlaw> o you are talking swap file disk.
[13:22] <paulens> ok
[13:22] <GodsFlaw> I was asking about os from filesystem.
[13:23] <bekks> BluesKaj: And nowadays, in a time having 4TB drives, it really doesnt matter how you are using 12GB of disk space when having 16GB RAM.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> bekks, well , there's no indication that hibernation is needed
[13:23] <GodsFlaw> got 16gb ram so no need for swap.
[13:23] <bekks> GodsFlaw: Do you want to use hibernation?
[13:23] <paulens> thanks :)
[13:23] <dakotawulfy> well i got 4 gig and only using 7 % swap
[13:23] <GodsFlaw> running on ssd think I need hibernate?
[13:24] <bekks> GodsFlaw: Its your choice, not what I am thinking you might need.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw, is this a laptop, work pc , home pc ?
[13:25] <ezioa> can anyone tell me why this zone file is giving me an error on line 9: unexpected end of input at eol
[13:25] <ezioa> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ecbce0a2b9803d68141d
[13:25] <GodsFlaw> pc
[13:25] <GodsFlaw> home but I have dev env on it ect.
[13:26] <GodsFlaw> running windoes on a 128 ssd got a 512 ssd to load u
[13:26] <GodsFlaw> ssd are the os drives
[13:26] <wormfox> 512
[13:26] <GodsFlaw> have moving drive for data ect
[13:27] <paulens> oh and
[13:27] <BluesKaj> then you have options , create a swap equal to or a bit larger than your RAM then , it's best to be safe
[13:27] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw,^
[13:27] <GodsFlaw> ok
[13:27] <paulens> which format should i choose for / and /home?
[13:27] <bekks> paulens: ext4
[13:28] <GodsFlaw> so i'll leave 20 free for the swap
[13:28] <paulens> thanks bekks
[13:28] <spaceneedle> Bug: Sometimes when I open the dash the screen freezes and I can't do anything.  Ubuntu 12.04  has been buggy for me lately.
[13:29] <GodsFlaw> is ext4 best for everything?  what is ext3 used for?
[13:29] <gustav> GodsFlaw: Yeah.
[13:30] <bekks> GodsFlaw: ext3 is much older than ext4.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ext4 is latest and probly best, GodsFlaw
[13:32] <sebokie> hello
[13:33] <sebokie> I am trying to boot straight into xbmc in ubuntu 13.04
[13:33] <sebokie> I change lightdm.conf but it does not seem to work
[13:34] <GodsFlaw> Thanks blue, anyother advice before I reboot to do the load.  Looks straightfoward from the reading.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> GodsFlaw, I prefer to pre-partition using gparted live media , then when you install , just use the manual partioning guide and choose the /  and /home moutpoints
[13:37] <GodsFlaw> that a seperat program?
[13:37] <GodsFlaw> like partition magic?
[13:37] <GodsFlaw> gparted.sourceforge.net/‎
[13:37] <GodsFlaw> this?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> !gparted | GodsFlaw
[13:38] <sidney_> Good Morning
[13:38] <GodsFlaw> so i use gparted after i install u?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> before you , install GodsFlaw , it's not necessary , but it makes the insallation easier IMO
[13:40] <GodsFlaw> but nothing is on the disk now.
[13:40] <GodsFlaw> i'm talking from my windows disk.
[13:40] <paulens> eh... another problem...
[13:40] <MinIRC> hello guys i'm really looking to do something like this : http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/750308586/stormfly-like-a-pc-on-your-wrist?play=1&ref=search
[13:40] <cfhowlett> GodsFlaw, proceed with caution ...
[13:40] <MinIRC> could anyone help me to configure the usb correctly -)
[13:41] <dakotawulfy> paulens ???
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !usb|MinIRC,
[13:41] <paulens> so i installed ubuntu on a separate partition, but it still boots into windows, and there is no boot item for ubuntu.
[13:42] <cfhowlett> paulens, did you install grub bootloader?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> paulens, no grub menu?
[13:42] <paulens> eh... no, it boots straight to windows
[13:42] <paulens> i just used the installer in live usb
[13:42] <cfhowlett> paulens, boot the live usb and install grub to the hard drive
[13:42] <MinIRC> cfhowlett:  ?
[13:42] <paulens> and selected a partition to install bootloader
[13:43] <paulens> i thought it will imstall grub there
[13:43] <cfhowlett> MinIRC, installing to a USB is simple
[13:43] <paulens> install*
[13:43] <MinIRC> cfhowlett:  well not so when you're on OS X
[13:44] <paulens> cfhowlett: how do i do that?
[13:44] <MinIRC> cfhowlett:  i wan to install it and boot it from anywhere just like stormily usb on kickstarted
[13:44] <alexxxa2> Is the support for 32bit greater than for 64?
[13:44] <MinIRC> alexxxa2:  nope
[13:44] <bekks> alexxxa2: No.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> MinIRC, create the USB.  boot from the usb ...  exactly what stormily did
[13:45] <alexxxa2> Is it really so? I am really considering reinstalling system, and this time I will choose 32 bit
[13:45] <alexxxa2> cause many programs wont install at all
[13:45] <bekks> alexxxa2: ^Name one :)
[13:45] <alexxxa2> they say 'dependance problem' or so
[13:45] <paulens> can someone tell me how to install grub?
[13:45] <MinIRC> alexxxa2: it is depend on your cpu architecture
[13:45] <xuser1> hi
[13:46] <bekks> alexxxa2: I am not aware of any program not being installable on 64bit for the last 10 years.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !grub|paulens,
[13:46] <alexxxa2> bekks, skype won't install
[13:46] <bekks> alexxxa2: Thats not true :)
[13:46] <MinIRC> cfhowlett:  well, i'm having problem with EFI and grub it doesn't load
[13:46] <cfhowlett> alexxxa2, I've got skype on my 12.04 no problem
[13:46] <rymate1234> Lol Skype
[13:46] <bekks> !skype | alexxxa2
[13:46] <xuser1> how can i change resolution using xrandr?
[13:46] <paulens> cfhowlett: and why didn't it install grub together with ubuntu?
[13:46] <alexxxa2> firefox won't allow to be set to my language
[13:47] <bekks> alexxxa2: Then install the language pack you need to support your language.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> MinIRC, ah, well yes.  EFI is a tricky beast.  best you look in the mac resources
[13:47] <MinIRC> alexxxa2:  those are not problem to OS , more than the software you're using
[13:48] <cfhowlett> paulens, it should have.  do you have some weird set up?  multi HD's/SSD or such?
[13:48] <MinIRC> cfhowlett:  mum….i'm looking to resolve them
[13:48] <paulens> cfhowlett: no...
[13:48] <alexxxa2> Since I'm using xfce, I can install language only through Language assistence (or something like that) - and that's exactly what I 've done
[13:48] <alexxxa2> but firefox remains in english
[13:48] <alexxxa2> the thing is that I want to set this PC for my grandpa
[13:49] <alexxxa2> who doesn't speak english
[13:49] <alexxxa2> so this PC has to be in another lang
[13:49] <bekks> alexxxa2: You have to install the language pack for your firefox in your language, too.
[13:49] <paulens> cfhowlett: maybe i had to create a primary partition? all my ubuntu partitions are logical
[13:49] <bekks> alexxxa2: And thats nothing that will be different on 32bit.
[13:49] <MinIRC> alexxxa2:  can't agree more with bekks
[13:50] <alexxxa2> tried to google: where are language files stored in ubuntu - nothing
[13:50] <sebokie> what shall I do to boot into xbmc directly instead of Unity?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> paulens, no that wouldn't do it ... BUT ... are you dual booting ?
[13:50] <alexxxa2> bekks, any clues about how to install different language pack for any program? synaptic maybe?
[13:50] <bekks> alexxxa2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93970/how-to-change-firefoxs-language
[13:50] <MinIRC> alexxxa2:  have you checked under the administration already ?
[13:51] <alexxxa2> minIRC yes
[13:51] <paulens> cfhowlett: yes? that's why i said that it boots windows...
[13:51] <cfhowlett> paulens, windows 8?
[13:51] <Darael> There's something broken with the Programmer Dvorak keyboard layout (once one logs in with it as the first layout, changing layouts ceases to be possible and the various extra options cease to work).  It's been that way for at least four releases.  No bug has been filed - which should I file it under?
[13:51] <MinIRC> alexxxa2:  i have set-up the whole ubuntu to french for my gf , and didn't have to use anything special than that's already in the system
[13:51] <paulens> cfhowlett: yes...
[13:52] <cfhowlett> paulens, then it might be a uefi thing ... out of my area of knowledge.
[13:52] <MinIRC> alexxxa2:  well there is a language of the system so change it from there, and then go and download firefox again and it will be downloaded with the os language you have choosen
[13:52] <paulens> cfhowlett: i don't have uefi, i have bios. win8 wasn't preinstalled
[13:53] <cfhowlett> paulens, gotta go.  sorry.
[13:53] <udhayaraj> can any one say how to download videos in  ubuntu
[13:53] <alexxxa2> I'll first purge firefox, then reinstall in :D
[13:53] <alexxxa2> atm, I´m installing skype
[13:53] <Darael> !anyone | udhayaraj
[13:54] <alexxxa2> I believe sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 is the solution to my 32bit problems
[13:54]  * MinIRC  is hugging alexxxa2  and telling her, everything have a solution don't worry
[13:54] <udhayaraj> is there s any alternative for mintube
[13:54] <udhayaraj> minitube8
[13:55] <bekks> alexxxa2: You shouldnt use that unless you know exactly what you are doing there.
[13:55] <udhayaraj> minitube*
[13:55] <paulens> eh... i just booted from that live usb again, and now it asks for password
[13:55] <Darael> udhayaraj: Well, minitube will quite happily *run* on Ubuntu - is there any reason th'art looking for something else?
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> udhayaraj  youtube-dl, then use winnff (gui) to convert
[13:56] <paulens> and i'm sure i hadn't set a password
[13:56] <alexxxa2> no hugging
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> winff*
[13:56] <adamk_> udhayaraj, Are you looking from the alternative that you aren't getting from minitube itself?
[13:56] <alexxxa2> bekks, why?
[13:56] <alexxxa2> wait for a moment
[13:56] <adamk_> udhayaraj, Err... What are you looking for....
[13:56] <adamk_> Stupid fingers
[13:56] <alexxxa2> hey! Alexa is local nick name for Alexander. I'm male.
[13:56] <bekks> alexxxa2: Because it may break things.
[13:57] <alexxxxa2> bekks, what could it break?
[13:57] <alexxxxa2> do I have choice?
[13:58] <alexxxxa2> either that, or install 13.04 32bit
[13:58] <MinIRC> alexxxxa2:  what hardware you have ?
[13:58] <alexxxxa2> LAptop ASUS k52F
[13:58] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Just use 64bit and follow the instructions given, e.g. for skype.
[13:58] <bekks> alexxxxa2: And just dont use commands just thinking they might help unless verifying it.
[13:59] <alexxxxa2> in tutorial, it says: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[13:59] <alexxxxa2> Users of 64-bit Ubuntu, should enable MultiArch if it isn't already enabled by running the command
[13:59] <alexxxxa2> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[13:59] <Darael> alexxxxa2: MultiArch has been enabled by default for several releases now.
[13:59] <MinIRC> alexxxxa2:  it's an intel core i5 or i3… so use the i386 architecture for 64bit -) and be safe
[13:59] <mystiiq> how can I see successful ssh logins from the auth.log? does "cat auth.log | grep sshd | grep opened" list all logins?
[13:59] <bekks> MinIRC: Thats nonsense, honestly.
[14:00] <alexxxxa2> is i386 same as 32bit?
[14:00] <alexxxxa2> guys, I got some error, cant install skype
[14:00] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Yes. And dont use it unless you dont have hardware not supporting 64bit.
[14:00] <bekks> !details | alexxxxa2
[14:00] <alexxxxa2> and the thing is that it's written in my language in terminal
[14:00] <alexxxxa2> moment, just to set the system back to english
[14:01] <alexxxxa2> so I can copy paste error here
[14:02] <MinIRC> bekks: i don't see why it is nonsense -) changing 32 or 64 bit is pretty much the same…it's all depend what you're using as a cpu..
[14:02] <debiantoruser> Greetings, where i can get support about poclbm(ubuntu 13.04/amd-app-sdk 3.8) ?
[14:02] <bekks> MinIRC: Yeah, and using 32bit on 64bit hw is just a pointless waste of resources.
[14:02] <alexxxxa2> i'll paste soon the error
[14:03] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Use a pastebin service then, please.
[14:03] <alexxxxa2> ofcourse
[14:04] <alexxxxa2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635484/
[14:04] <alexxxxa2> and btw, how do I remove join and quit messages in xchat?
[14:04] <OerHeks>  debiantoruser just ask,  someone who knows the answer will likely reply
[14:04] <alexxxxa2> it bothers me
[14:05] <Darael> ...am I experiencing a bug, or is the dark border around the window decoration on unmaximised windows a new "feature"?
[14:06] <MinIRC> bekks: what waste of resources? i have tested the both on the same laptop and did see any difference, soon they will change it to 128bit architecture cause the transistors will be written to 14nm and then..what? it all depends on the software if it is optimised or not..for the architecture..so using the 64bit is not such a big of a deal for intel i-x architecture
[14:06] <mizifih> lets say I put "su marcio -c znc" inside rc.local, does it make znc start as if user marcio did it?
[14:07] <bekks> MinIRC: In fact, you are totally wrong, and it is offtopic in here.
[14:07] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Whats the output of dpkg -l | grep skype
[14:08] <bazhang> !ot | MinIRC
[14:08] <alexxxxa2> bekks, that doesn't give output
[14:08] <mizifih> lets say I put "su marcio -c znc" inside rc.local, does it make znc start as if user marcio did it?
[14:09] <chouga> somebody in here can help me?
[14:09] <bekks> alexxxxa2: So did you follow that guided linked above?
[14:09] <alexxxxa2> 'dpkg -l | grep skype' <------ nothing here :(
[14:09] <alexxxxa2> I did
[14:10] <jrib> mizifih: I'd suggest just use crontab, that's what znc docs recommend as well.  Ideally you'd setup an upstart script
[14:10] <alexxxxa2> I gave you the output on paste.ubuntu
[14:10] <alexxxxa2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635484/
[14:11] <mizifih> jrib: @reboot ?
[14:11] <jrib> mizifih: yeah
[14:11] <bazhang> alexxxxa2, to block the joins quits and parts in xchat just right click on this channel name and disable it
[14:11] <mizifih> jrib: hum... googl'n it!
[14:11] <mizifih> thanks!
[14:11] <adamk_> alexxxxa2, According to that output, you are holding back packages that are broken.
[14:11] <mizifih> I'm really excited with this ubuntu settings I got here, hope it just don't go caput on me
[14:12] <alexxxxa2> I typed sudo apt-get remove
[14:12] <alexxxxa2> or clean
[14:12] <chouga> how get authentication sasl?
[14:12] <wushu> hey guys, can someone please help me find out how many cpu cores i have on my dedicated virtual server? (ubuntu 11.04)
[14:12] <alexxxxa2> it was clean
[14:13] <bekks> wushu: cat /proc/cpuinfo   -- and 11.04 isnt supported anymore
[14:13] <wushu> bekks: tells me 16, but top counts only 8 for some reason
[14:14] <alexxxxa2> bekks, can I still count on your help?
[14:14] <bazhang> chouga, freenode has some guides for that, try #freenode
[14:14] <Araneidae> Anybody know why Update Manager isn't on the System menu for Xubuntu?
[14:14] <wushu> bekks: which is the right one?
[14:15] <bekks> alexxxxa2: sudo dpkg --force-all -P skype-bin
[14:15] <bekks> wushu: The output of cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:15] <alexxxxa2> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove skype-bin which isn't installed
[14:16] <bekks> wushu: You should consider an update prior further investigation.
[14:16] <dakotawulfy> Araneidae look and see if u have a link in the /usr/share/applications
[14:16] <Taev> is it possible to add wildcards to a command to drop incoming stuff in iptables, e.g. sudo iptables -I INPUT -s 66.* -j DROP
[14:16] <mangusta> hi
[14:16] <Araneidae> Answer is: it's in the Settings Manager (of course?!)
[14:16] <MinIRC> 8)
[14:17] <wushu> bekks: i would update, but my ISP only allows 11.04 at the moment
[14:17] <ubuntu293> Hi everyone. I need help because i would like to install Wifi connection on my laptop Compq Presario CQ57 but it doesn't work. Can someone help me ? Thanks
[14:17] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Then whats the output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[14:17] <bekks> wushu: And 11.04 isnt supported anymore - you're stuck.
[14:17] <MinIRC> ubuntu293:  do you have set-up the wifi manager ? or it wasn't installed when you boot up the os?
[14:18] <wushu> bekks: that sucks :P
[14:18] <mizifih> jrib: gnome-schedule, even better!
[14:18] <wushu> bekks: but thanks for the help anyways
[14:18] <cloneG> hello dakotawulfy are you there?
[14:19] <dakotawulfy> yes
[14:19] <ubuntu293> MinIRC: wifi manager wasn't installed
[14:19] <ubuntu293> i think
[14:19] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I uninstalled all nvidia and the graphic environment came back to the latest kernel in low mod though
[14:20] <dakotawulfy> now u need to install the new driver with jocky-gtk
[14:20] <MinIRC> ubuntu293:  so do this :  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[14:20] <dakotawulfy> cloneG in the new kernel
[14:21] <harris> Dr_willis, my computer keeps poping from the sound chip turning on and off
[14:21] <dakotawulfy> cloneG and u did that in the old one too right
[14:21] <MinIRC> ubuntu293:  and then this : sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome for the applet and you're ready go to
[14:21] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: and running jockey-gtk I get NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel modul and VDPAU library....
[14:21] <paulens> do i need to select a separate partition for grub, or can i install it in /?
[14:21] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: but I dont know wich one to install
[14:21] <afidegnum> hello good morning all, where is the ubuntu studio channel?
[14:22] <dakotawulfy> ok hold on
[14:22] <harris> please Dr_willis
[14:22] <MinIRC> ubuntu293:  good luck with that..
[14:22] <afidegnum> I have ubuntu desktop installed and I want to change the desktop layout to UbuntuStudios''s desktoop layout
[14:22] <ubuntu293> MinIRC: My mistake. It seems that it was already installed. I think that the os doesn't recognize my Wifi card and when I want to install drivers, it doesn't work
[14:22] <mizifih> is software central (13.04 with latest) really bugged or is it just me?
[14:23] <mizifih> Everytime I use it it hangs the gauge at 50% but stuff are actually installed
[14:23] <alexxxxa2> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635551/
[14:23] <BluesKaj>  paulens / is good
[14:23] <mizifih> it happened like 40% of the time I used it
[14:23] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the point is I read in many threads the way to install the latest nvidia driver was to install nvidia-current-updates after getting swat-x updates ppa ...
[14:23] <dakotawulfy> cloneG ok pick the nvidia graphics driver  version current recommended
[14:23] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Thats not the full output I asked for.
[14:24] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: but it is not staying in the jockey-gtk!!!!
[14:24] <BluesKaj> swat-x isn't relaible IME , i'd stay away from thast ppa ., cloneG
[14:24] <MinIRC> ubuntu293: hmmm if you're trying to install drivers written for windows, it won't work for sure… and if your wifi card is recent model may be there are none written for linux yet…so
[14:24] <dakotawulfy> cloneGi use the tools it has less chance of messing up stuff
[14:25] <MinIRC> ubuntu293: on what machine you're dealing with that problem?
[14:25] <harris> my computer keeps poping from the sound chip turning on and off how can i turn off the powersaving
[14:25] <dakotawulfy> see if u have nvidia common installed in synaptic
[14:25] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: only three nvidia options in the jockey gtk= nvidia binary xorg driver kernel module and vdpau library an experimental one and nvidia riva/tnt/geforce...
[14:25] <paulens> ok so i have /dev/sda6 swap, /dev/sda8 "/" and /dev/sda7 "/home"
[14:25] <Rallias> Is there a way to set up a br0 device within an LXC container?
[14:25] <matti_> leave
[14:26] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I tried the nvidia riva and it hanged the computer
[14:26] <ubuntu293> MinIRC: Compaq Presario CQ57. I found some procedure on web but no one solves my problem
[14:26] <paulens> and "Device for boot loader installation" set to /dev/sda8
[14:26] <alexxxxa2> bekks: I'm sorry. This is whole output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635557/
[14:26] <dakotawulfy> cloneG u should have like 7 to chose from  in jocky-gtk
[14:26] <cloneG> dakotawulfy:but they are all the same!!
[14:27] <dakotawulfy> u did not use jocky-gtk to install that one ???
[14:27] <harris> my computer keeps poping from the sound chip turning on and off how can i turn off the powersaving
[14:27] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: vdpau library
[14:27] <alexxxxa2> what about this: or if you are using the unstable
[14:27] <alexxxxa2> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[14:27] <alexxxxa2> or been moved out of Incoming.
[14:28] <MinIRC> ubuntu293:  did you already checked that page : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800pci ?
[14:29] <mizifih> brb
[14:30] <dakotawulfy> cloneG take look at this  http://ompldr.org/vaWJtaw/2013-05-05_650x588--1367764049.jpg
[14:30] <paulens> BluesKaj: i selected my language, clicked "something else", then configured this: partition / - 20GB, ext4, format; swap - 4GB; partition /home - 80GB, ext4, format; device for bootloader install - /dev/sda8 (same as /)
[14:31] <paulens> do i need to select something else?
[14:31] <paulens> because when i did this before, it didn't install grub...
[14:33] <dakotawulfy> paulens not for sure u might have to make the / portion  with a boot flag
[14:33] <paulens> dakotawulfy: ohhh..... but then don't i need another partition for /?
[14:33] <dakotawulfy> paulens and u have to select that in the install  make sure u have it right
[14:34] <dakotawulfy> not real sure any help is that right
[14:34] <BluesKaj> paulens, unless you already have grub installed somewhere on the drive
[14:35] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: http://postimg.org/image/6by27yynz/
[14:36] <NickNackGus> How do I force cached RAM to swap?
[14:36] <jacer> Ubuntu
[14:37] <paulens> http://db.tt/dfVVP8jv
[14:37] <paulens> that's what i selected
[14:37] <paulens> is it alright?
[14:37] <dakotawulfy> cloneG  that is the open source one
[14:37] <dakotawulfy> do u want the one nvidia uses
[14:39] <paulens> can someone have a look at my screenshot and tell me if i did something wrong?.. sorry for being noob :$
[14:40] <dakotawulfy> paulens
[14:40] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: and why am I not seeing the recommended one?
[14:40] <paulens> dakotawulfy: ?
[14:40] <adamk_> paulens, I'm not seeing a partition for / , though perhaps you have to scroll down.
[14:40] <paulens> eh
[14:40] <paulens> someone just said that i need /boot instead of /...
[14:40] <paulens> lol
[14:40] <betrayd> imo /boot is too big, won't really grow that much
[14:40] <dakotawulfy> paulens /boot  needs to be / maybe with boot flag
[14:41] <betrayd> better^
[14:41] <paulens> dakotawulfy: how do i do that?
[14:41] <fellayaboy> what should i do when "make" doesnt compile correctly and i just want to delete all the stuff it created and did
[14:41] <paulens> dakotawulfy: how do i set the flag?
[14:41] <adamk_> Personally, I keep /boot as a separate partition.
[14:41] <adamk_> But, as betrayd said, 20 gigs is way too big.
[14:42] <paulens> ok, i set /boot to 10 gigs
[14:42] <dakotawulfy> adamk_ yea but then he needs another portion   / and the /boot
[14:42] <betrayd> fellayaboy: it may not have moved stuff around, the created ones are still in the source dir
[14:42]  * you_ have performed an  illegal action. Please restart your computer
[14:42] <adamk_> dakotawulfy, Right....  And?
[14:42] <paulens> dakotawulfy: so are we talking about 4 partitions now?
[14:42] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: might it be because I have no nvidia packages installed?
[14:42] <dakotawulfy> heheh going up
[14:42] <fellayaboy> the source directory? ok so im a lil new with make..how does it do its thing? it first stores its stuff in /usr/src?
[14:43] <dakotawulfy> cloneG
[14:43] <betrayd> paulens is that the enire layout in the shot or a pageUp is needed?
[14:43] <NickNackGus> pualens: What was your original problem again? No GRUB?
[14:43] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG ok check if u have nvidia common installed in synaptic
[14:43] <betrayd> fellayaboy: yes, normally at the end at 'make install' it'll start moving stuff to their places
[14:44] <paulens> betrayd: you see everything in the screenshot. scrolling down only reveals the external usb drive
[14:44] <betrayd> paulens: ok
[14:44] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: no, i run: sudo remove --purge nvidia* and thats why I can see desktop with latest kernel now
[14:44] <afidegnum> hi, how do I see the current version of ubuntu running?
[14:44] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: so nvidia-common is certainly not in the system
[14:45] <paulens> betrayd: is it good? i added 10 gigs / now, and reduced /boot to 10 gigs
[14:45] <afidegnum> I mean the current version version of ubuntu installed on my system
[14:45] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: is it needed?
[14:45] <betrayd> paulens: another shot would be nice though
[14:45] <paulens> ok, uploading...
[14:45] <betrayd> paulens: the modified one
[14:45] <dakotawulfy> cloneG well go see if u can install it
[14:45] <dakotawulfy> in syanptic
[14:45] <paulens> betrayd: yeah, i understand..
[14:45] <adamk_> paulens, /boot really doesn't need to be more than a gig or two.
[14:45] <betrayd> paulens: ^
[14:45] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: lol oh I asure you I can
[14:45] <fellayaboy> oh ok awesome.... hey im trying to compile something thats needs automake 1.3* ... i have ubuntu 12.04 do i have to upgrade to 12.10 or 13.04 to get automake 1.3*
[14:45] <dakotawulfy>  then u should be able to what my screen shot had
[14:46] <afidegnum> any answer ?
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> afidegnum  lsb_release -sd
[14:46] <paulens> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37687581/IMAG1040.jpg
[14:46] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG try that and see what happens
[14:46] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: thank you you are my tinkerbell
[14:46] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me how to install proprietary ATI driver in ubuntu 13.04? I am not able to find jockey
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> afidegnum  or cat /etc/issue
[14:46] <betrayd> fellayaboy: nah not too sure, why do you need to 'make' stuff? If you want to be a dev, i'd contact ubuntu devs
[14:46] <paulens> yeah, i'm not saving space, i have 1TB, and this install is for testing...
[14:47] <fellayaboy> i want to use dnscrypt which is from opendns
[14:47] <fellayaboy> they dont have a .deb or something easier
[14:47] <alexxxxa2> bekks, any further hint?
[14:47] <dakotawulfy>  paulens have a question  what window s u have ???
[14:47] <betrayd> fellayaboy: what do they have, rpm?
[14:48] <betrayd> or just a tar gz/tar xz?
[14:48] <paulens> dakotawulfy: win8.1
[14:48] <BluesKaj> odd that you would want a boot partition , don't see the point of it dakotawulfy , paulens
[14:48] <fellayaboy> i think i seen fpm...gentoo.. but i havent seen deb, debian, or ubuntu builds
[14:48] <dakotawulfy> ask any one does windows 8 let u duel boot ??
[14:49] <paulens> dakotawulfy: yes, i'm dual-booting with windows 7
[14:49] <paulens> i was*
[14:49] <cemycc> ubuntu 13.04 have software raid installtion support ?
[14:49] <fellayaboy> http://dnscrypt.org/
[14:49] <dakotawulfy> I thought they were going to make it were u could not boot other os ??
[14:49] <betrayd> fellayaboy: maybe easier to convert rpm to deb using alien
[14:49] <NickNackGus> if you're having trouble installing a Windows /Ubuntu dual boot, try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[14:50] <BluesKaj> paulens, is windows 7 the first partition , if so then that's where grub installed , on the mbr
[14:50] <fellayaboy> yeah thats true if i find it..well ima figure this out if not ill use dnscrypt 1.21
[14:50] <paulens> BluesKaj: i'm no longer using windows 7, i deleted it
[14:50] <fellayaboy> thanks for the clarification guys
[14:50] <betrayd> fellayaboy: or ubuntu's supplied thingi
[14:50] <BluesKaj> paulens ok
[14:50] <paulens> BluesKaj: should i install grub on top of windows boot loader?
[14:51] <fellayaboy> yup betrayd
[14:51] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I got news: http://postimg.org/image/tqr7z4lh5/
[14:51] <betrayd> you get support that way, fellayaboy
[14:51] <fellayaboy> thats that service u pay for right
[14:51] <betrayd>  :D
[14:51] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: yea is ther more
[14:52] <dakotawulfy> pivk the one i have
[14:52] <betrayd> or here you won't get booted out lol fellayaboy
[14:52] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: but those new drivers are pointing the packages I uninstalled this is nuts
[14:52] <fellayaboy> lol
[14:52] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: pick the on i have
[14:52] <BluesKaj> grub installs in / if you don't have windows , paulens . or at least it should
[14:52] <makara> updates killed my desktop wallpaper on 13.04. Anyone else?
[14:52] <cemycc> someone can tell me if ubuntu 13.04 have support for software raids like the old alternative cds ?
[14:52] <betrayd> paulens: and its not really 'on top of' they'
[14:53] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: u are on the new kernel right and uninstalled the other on the old kernel right
[14:53] <betrayd>  would coexist paulens
[14:53] <paulens> BluesKaj: so what should i select as "device for boot loader installation"?
[14:53] <paulens> betrayd: yeah but i meant the same partition
[14:53] <betrayd> ok bbiab
[14:53] <BluesKaj> paulens, / , whatever /dev/sdX it is
[14:53] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I uninstalled all nvidia packages in the new kernel thats all I did
[14:53] <paulens> NickNackGus: i'm not using uefi
[14:54] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: and then reinstalled nvidia-common
[14:54] <paulens> BluesKaj: ok, thanks, gonna try installing now...
[14:54] <paulens> without /boot
[14:54] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: did u remove the driver in the old kernel ???
[14:54] <paulens> just swap, / and /home
[14:54] <dakotawulfy> with jocky-gtk
[14:54] <BluesKaj>  /boot isn't needed , paulens
[14:54] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: no
[14:55] <paulens> BluesKaj: yeah i removed it
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ok , you're good to go paulens
[14:55] <notOnIRC_> Has quantal reached EOL?
[14:56] <alexxxxa2> bekks, I´m downloading 32bit XUbuntu
[14:56] <away> notOnIRC_, no
[14:56] <alexxxxa2> I'll install it
[14:56] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: do I need to remove drivers from all kernels?
[14:56] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: ok  now this is what i did i wen to old kernel used jocky-gtk  remove driver then boot back in to should not have nivida driver loaded  then go to the new  kernel and add the one i showed u  in screen shot
[14:56] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: not drivers but packages
[14:56] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Basically nothing will change, since the problems named will occur again.
[14:56] <Vyom> Hi guys. Hope everyone's ok. I have a simple query to ask. I am upgrading to 13.04 from within 12.10. I have reached till here: http://img.krow.me/di/O5Q8/Screenshot_from_2013-05-05_20:08:17.png My PC is slow, and it will take hours to decompress those packages. So I was wondering if I can quit now, and later the setup can resume from where I left? Pls answer.
[14:57] <notOnIRC_> Until when is it supported? I hope no one minds me asking here instead of googling. My connection is having some problems and IRC is easier for it.
[14:57] <alexxxxa2> bekks, I bet it will work
[14:57] <bekks> Vyom: You should not interrupt the update.
[14:57] <alexxxxa2> time will show
[14:57] <bekks> alexxxxa2: I wont bet on that :P
[14:57] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: not sure why but it works  has to be done that way and it should work
[14:57] <alexxxxa2> or, I´ll install 12.10 (32bit)
[14:57] <alexxxxa2> one after another
[14:58] <josePHPagoda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139480&page=2 I'm impacted by that same issue.  Does anyone know if there's been a deb file released to fix that (doesn't need to be in the official repos)  It's kind of an annoying regression
[14:58] <alexxxxa2> I don´t care if it´s 32 or 64 bit. It´s for my grandpa, after all
[14:58] <bekks> alexxxxa2: Why dont you use 12.04, which will be supported till 2017?
[14:58] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: then your old kernel will not work with the nvidia driver but new on will
[14:58] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: okay...though I think there is no active nvidia driver right now
[14:58] <alexxxxa2> Ok. If 13.04 32bit won´t work either, I´ll install 12.04 then
[14:59] <bekks> alexxxxa2: 13.04 will be supported for 9 months only - January 2014
[14:59] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: you meant deactivating the driver didnt you?
[14:59] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: right  go to old kernel remove it
[14:59] <Vyom> bekks: But I think packages are downloaded, and the setup can simply resume from where I left?
[14:59] <sideeffect> typical scientific fonts in papers are?
[15:00] <bekks> Vyom: Will will have an undefined state between two releases. You should not interrupt the update.
[15:00] <dakotawulfy> well in jocky gtk it says remove button
[15:00] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: but the point is that the recommended driver is not stayed anyway
[15:00] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: are u in the old one now???
[15:01] <paulens> ok, it said installation complete, continue testing/restart
[15:01] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: the old kernel
[15:01] <Vyom> bekks: That sounds scary. Ok, thanks for the reply. I will try to consider the time in future upgrades.
[15:01] <paulens> i clicked restart and......
[15:01] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: latest kernel
[15:01] <cemycc> someone here can tell me if the ubuntu 13.04 have some software raid support at instalation ?
[15:01] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: go to the old kernel
[15:01] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: 3.5.0-18
[15:01] <paulens> it boots windows.
[15:02] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: yes you told me to deactivate driver there...with jockey-gtk
[15:02] <dakotawulfy> cloneG:  what  version u using of ubuntu???
[15:02] <antivirtel> hello all! I'm using precise. I wanted to upgrade the version of ncurses, but I couldn't finish the process... errors: http://paste2.org/mvOCKFvL can someone help me to do with this something?
[15:02] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: 12.04
[15:02] <josePHPagoda> cemycc: it does
[15:02] <josePHPagoda> i'm not sure if you have to use the alternative installer still or not though
[15:02] <dakotawulfy> cloneG: and u are using the  the next version kernel
[15:03] <dakotawulfy> for 12.10
[15:03] <dakotawulfy>  kernel
[15:03] <paulens> i don't know what to do anymore :(
[15:03] <paulens> it just doesn't detect grub...
[15:03] <dakotawulfy> cloneG:  let me ask did u no that???
[15:03] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the kernel updates automatic
[15:03] <cemycc> josePHPagoda, from what i have seen there are not alternative cd for 13.04 :) if I can create raid partition and raid array on the install then I dont need it
[15:03] <dakotawulfy> right
[15:03] <dakotawulfy>  Mine did that too
[15:05] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: which would be the optimum config for kernel and driver? I am fed up with this chain of fools configuration
[15:05] <dakotawulfy> hold on
[15:05] <BluesKaj> paulens, I thought you were about to do a clean install , grun doesn't install until the install is almost finished
[15:05] <BluesKaj> grub rather
[15:05] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I hav been getting a problem (for example right now) where my bluetooth mouse will connect but the pointer will no move
[15:06] <josePHPagoda> cemycc: if you tell it that you want to install using your own approach, that'd be where it is
[15:06] <josePHPagoda> I've not looked though
[15:06] <Pinkamena_D> I can tell its wrking because the bluetooth is built in and the bluetooth light on the laptop blinks when I move the mouse
[15:06] <josePHPagoda> so you'll need to go through the install process up to that point
[15:06] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG Let me go see what we have to do
[15:06] <Pinkamena_D> but again, the pointer does not move, any ideas?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Pinkamena_D, make sure you battery switch is turned on'
[15:07] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: okay go asking elysium
[15:07] <dakotawulfy> ok check in syanptic  for this  linux-generic-lts-quantal
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> I assume you mean the mouse is on? Yes, the signal is transferring.
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> Pinkamena_D  use blueman
[15:07] <paulens> BluesKaj: it IS finished...
[15:07] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: quantal??? I am using precise
[15:07] <paulens> and i see the partitions from windows partition manager
[15:07] <dakotawulfy> cloneG right
[15:07] <antivirtel> hello all! I'm using precise. I wanted to upgrade the version of ncurses, but I couldn't finish the process... errors: http://paste2.org/mvOCKFvL can someone help me to do with this something?
[15:07] <paulens> and i see the partitions from windows partition manager, BluesKaj
[15:07] <dakotawulfy>  go check see if installed
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Pinkamena_D, is the light red or blue on top
[15:08] <paulens> BluesKaj: and it didn't show any errors
[15:08] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG u dont have the right kernel
[15:08] <BluesKaj> paulens, I thought you said you deleted windows
[15:08] <Pinkamena_D> uhh, whewn the mouse is in operation the ligh is off, but when I first move it its green
[15:08] <betrayd> BluesKaj: her win7
[15:08] <betrayd> his*
[15:08] <paulens> BluesKaj: no, i deleted windows 7, but i still have windows 8
[15:08] <Pinkamena_D> This does not happen all the time either, 70% of the itme it does work fine
[15:08] <paulens> betrayd: i'm not "she". i'm male.
[15:09] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: not installed
[15:09] <betrayd> lol my bad paulens
[15:09] <dakotawulfy> u should have this kernel linux-headers-3.2.0-40
[15:10] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the one installed: linux-headers-3.5.0-18 the one with the kernel version
[15:10] <dakotawulfy> or 41
[15:10] <dakotawulfy> that for the new 13.04 kernel
[15:10] <paulens> BluesKaj: betrayd: so what have i done wrong?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> paulens, then grub is probly already installed , hold the left shift key down right after the BIOS screen when booting
[15:10] <dakotawulfy> cloneG well hold on
[15:11] <paulens> BluesKaj: eh... can i hold it BEFORE bios screen? with win8, the bios screen appears only for a part of second... i can't press it so quickly xD
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:12] <BluesKaj> paulens, ^
[15:12] <dakotawulfy> cloneG ok this is what my kernel is linux-headers-3.2.0-41
[15:12] <paulens> BluesKaj: didn't work...
[15:12] <bekks> dakotawulfy: Thats not a kernel, those are headers.
[15:13] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: and you might be using linux-headers matching that kernel version right?
[15:13] <dakotawulfy> if driver not working on the kernel u have try a different  one  might not work on that one
[15:13] <paulens> BluesKaj: i kept holding it starting with the sound signal until windows logo appeared
[15:13] <Pinkamena_D> blueman shows it as connected and working
[15:13] <dakotawulfy> righ
[15:13] <bekks> cloneG: Thats how they are intended to be used, yes.
[15:13] <dakotawulfy> but still right
[15:13] <Pinkamena_D> somehow the movement is not getting through though
[15:14] <BluesKaj> paulens, ok let me get this straight , did this machine come with W8 installed when you bought it by any chance ?
[15:14] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: well as the latest is not working I ll try downgrading both...
[15:14] <dakotawulfy> try that i know my kernel is the -3.2.0-41
[15:14] <jiangfuqiao> Cannot find Glib2! If you are using binary packages based system, check that you
[15:14] <jiangfuqiao> have the corresponding -dev/devel packages installed.
[15:15] <jiangfuqiao> help
[15:15] <jiangfuqiao> Cannot find Glib2! If you are using binary packages based system, check that you
[15:15] <jiangfuqiao> have the corresponding -dev/devel packages installed.
[15:15] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG thought the 3 .5.0 was for the newer one 13.04
[15:15] <paulens> BluesKaj: no, i said already 3 times, it has regular bios, not uefi... and it came without windows at all...
[15:16] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I think I am lackig that one in grub options it jumps from the 3.5.0-18 to the 3.2.0-40 and backwards
[15:16] <BluesKaj> paulens, ok , that's out of the way then , i didn't see yourpost abouut no uefi , btw
[15:16] <m3ld> hi, is there a forum admin at keyboard?
[15:16] <m3ld> hi, is there an Ubuntu forum admin at keyboard?
[15:16] <paulens> BluesKaj: ok... i guess i need to modify the BCD?
[15:16] <dakotawulfy> cloneG 3.2.0-40 that one should work with driver
[15:17] <dakotawulfy> not sure on the 3-5-0
[15:17] <BluesKaj> paulens, you can install grub from live media on to the / partition
[15:17] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: are you staying long? I ll come over to post results
[15:17] <orated> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and recently noticing that my system's 25GB separate root partition is getting quickly occupied by usr and var. I'm not able to understand how var is taking up 11.3GiB and usr as 10.4GiB. When I'm trying to upgrade to 13.04, not enough space is left for download to complete and proceed to package installation. How can I solve this problem?
[15:17] <paulens> BluesKaj: i think it is installed, but there's no record in my BCD
[15:17] <dakotawulfy> cloneG don't think that right for the 12.04
[15:18] <paulens> BluesKaj: it automatically boots the first partition it finds, which is windows boot loader
[15:18] <BluesKaj> windows ignores linux , paulens
[15:18] <dakotawulfy> cloneG i might be
[15:18] <paulens> BluesKaj: so i need to add it manually?
[15:18] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: okay talk to you later then
[15:18] <dakotawulfy> cloneG ok
[15:19] <paulens> BluesKaj: as this article says? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Master_Boot_Record_and_Boot_Manager
[15:19] <BluesKaj> paulens, yes, certainly the only other option I can think of , unless others have a different idea
[15:20] <paulens> BluesKaj: Windows Vista ships with an command line utility called bcdedit.exe, which requires administrator credentials to use
[15:20] <paulens> BluesKaj: i'm gonna use that i think
[15:20] <antivirtel> I'm using precise right now. I wanted to upgrade the version of ncurses, but I couldn't finish the process... errors: http://paste2.org/mvOCKFvL can someone help me to do with this something?
[15:21] <alkap> how do we set the locale environment variables (LC_*)? I've tried localectl set-locale LC_TIME. localectl status shows the new value of LC_TIME and seems to affect the current session only. Thanks.
[15:22] <BluesKaj> paulens, I just open aterminal on the livecd or usb and do a sudo fdisk -l to find the correct /dev/sdX assigned to / , then sudo grub -install /dev/sdX , then sudo update-grub /dev/sdX ,,,this methad has worked for me despite all thechrooting that boot reapir uses.
[15:23] <Supercomp> how secure is ubuntu ?
[15:23] <dakotawulfy> Supercomp better then windows
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !security | Supercomp
[15:24] <auronandace> Supercomp: a difficult question to answer, depends on who is using it
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> how dry is water?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> (when it comes to windows and security)
[15:26] <darthanubis> nautilus died on me
[15:26] <darthanubis> how can I restart nautilus without logging out
[15:27] <darthanubis> nautilus on the cmd line does nothing
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> darthanubis  here too, nautilus behaves weird
[15:27] <darthanubis> MonkeyDust, I asked it to do too much at once
[15:28] <darthanubis> how do I restart it
[15:28] <betrayd> kill running nautilus processes
[15:28] <darthanubis> got it
[15:28] <darthanubis> betrayd, thats what was odd
[15:29] <darthanubis> betrayd, they were all killed
[15:29] <betrayd> done it earlier?
[15:30] <betrayd> i have a backup filemanager, but I doubt it can do as much
[15:30] <betrayd> just for browsing
[15:30] <betrayd> darthanubis: is there an 'arrange windows' or 'cleanup windows' on your WM
[15:31] <betrayd> might suddenly show nautilus dead center on your desktop
[15:32] <darthanubis> betrayd, it was totally black, ubity was still running though
[15:32] <darthanubis> unity
[15:32] <darthanubis> I just glad the whole thing did not lock
[15:32] <betrayd> darthanubis: maybe make a spare launcher, one that execs 'nautilus --no-desktop &'
[15:33] <betrayd> after a crash
[15:33] <betrayd> check the man page for it
[15:33] <paulens> BluesKaj: so do i install grub at /dev/sda, or /dev/sda8?
[15:33] <betrayd> but .xsession-errors might clue you in what happened
[15:34] <betrayd> ^ darthanubis
[15:34] <Supercomp> how can i access mtp devices in ubuntu
[15:35] <paulens> BluesKaj: ?
[15:35] <darthanubis> betrayd, just trying to give ubuntu proper another chance. If I make a spare launcher fpr crashes of nautilus, that implies I expect nautilus to crash rather consistently. I'll install Gnomebuntu or kubuntu before I accept that. But I appreciate your input.
[15:39] <Supercomp> mtp devices are detected and accessed via windows of virtualbox in ubuntu, however they can't be directly mounted on ubuntu.
[15:39] <Supercomp> is there anyway to mount mtp devices in ubuntu
[15:40] <DJones> Supercomp: What type of mtp device?
[15:40] <Supercomp> xperia phones for example
[15:40] <Supercomp> via usb
[15:41] <DJones> Supercomp: I connect my Galaxy S3 via USB by just plugging it in, I'm using 13.04 and it works with no problems, 12.10 and earlier had problems because the driver/connection didn't work properly
 they are phones which have MTP
[15:42] <gustav> I have an Ubuntu machine running from a VPS provider. Now... it's not Server, but I'm guessing that's what they want it to be, it's not local to me, but why would they do that? Do you know?
[15:42] <Supercomp> S3 uses normal Mass storage drivers
[15:42] <DJones> Supercomp: You could look at the android app Airdroid that may help
Airdroid is pretty slow
[15:45] <boxes> Hello, I am a new linux user and I wondered if someone could help me with 2 pieces of software I am having difficulty with
[15:45] <DJones> Supercomp: I'm not sure what you mean by the S3 using normal mass storage drivers, one of the work arounds I had to use on 12.10 was to connect using gmtp
 i meant galaxy s3
[15:46] <boxes> anyone able to help with vlc set up ?
[15:46] <DJones> Supercomp: Yes, but Galaxy S3 is using mtp
it does have a Mass Storage mode too along with that
[15:48] <boxes> anyone able to help with ps3 media server?
[15:48] <afidegnum> hello, pls I broke my conpiz configu
[15:48] <afidegnum> how do I bring it back using the terminal?
[15:50] <afidegnum> how do I bring the CCMS via terminal ? I can't access any file
[15:50] <afidegnum> or application
[15:50] <johnjohn1011> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[15:51] <cloneG> dakotawulf?
[15:51] <dakotawulfy> cloneG yes
[15:51] <johnjohn1011> afidegnum: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[15:52] <dakotawulfy> cloneG any thing???
[15:52] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: hello
[15:52] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I dont see older headers on synaptic
[15:54] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: how would I install 3.2.0-40 headers and make that kernel the default one?
[15:54] <dakotawulfy> cloneG were u able to get the driver working
[15:54] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I did nothing
[15:54] <w4rl0ckx> Any one needing any help
[15:55] <cloneG> dakotawulf: the linux headers are from the 3.2.5-18 onwards
[15:55] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: on synaptic
[15:55] <dakotawulfy> cloneG
[15:56] <dakotawulfy>  cloneG    linux-image-current- - always points to the the most recently released kernel, e.g., 12.10, 13.04, etc.   They will be available in the package manager but by default your  12.04 installation will use 3.2.x unless you specifically install one of  these kernels.
[15:57] <afidegnum> johnjohn1011, here is the error message
[15:57] <afidegnum> CRIT  2013-05-05 15:55:54 unity <unknown>:0 Failed to open connection to bus: //bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally without any error message
[15:57] <afidegnum> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[15:57] <afidegnum> root@afidegnum:/home/afidegnum#
[15:57] <adamk_> afidegnum, Why would you be running it as root?
[15:58] <dakotawulfy> cloneG the 3.5 or the quantal
[15:58] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: so I need to use linux-image-current?
[15:58] <afidegnum> adamk, because fo the system config
[15:58] <afidegnum> what shd I do pls?
[15:58] <n8w> i have made a list of installed software as dpkg --get-selection > list, but when i try to tun dpkg --set-selection < list i get : dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 1057 for all appz in the list
[15:58] <n8w> anyone?
[15:59] <dakotawulfy> cloneG did u see if the the kernel old kernel still worked
[15:59] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: you know which the problem I am having is...w
[15:59] <betrayd> johnjohn gave you a link afidegnum
[15:59] <afidegnum> that's what I amfollowing
[15:59] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I am sure it does the problems came with the new one
[15:59] <betrayd> afidegnum: ah
[16:00] <dakotawulfy> cloneG need to remove the one putting in new kernel  the other 3.5
[16:01] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: you want me to remove what?
[16:01] <johnjohn1011> wow, saw that i can load the 3.8 kernel in precise from synapitc,  dare I?
[16:01] <jpmh> I am getting the message "system crash detected" it is bothering my users.  How do I stop this from displaying?
[16:01] <dakotawulfy> cloneG check f u have this linux-tools-lts-quantal  installed
[16:02] <cloneG> not installed
[16:02] <DJones> Supercomp: Sorry, was away from the computer then, as far as I know, the S3 doesn't have USB Mass storage mode by default, you can find ways to enable it, but its not something I've done
[16:02] <afidegnum> hi all, I get it back
[16:03] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: look there is something I dont understand....that is why in the world synaptic is displaying packages for other ubuntu versions but the one I am using?
[16:03] <johnjohn1011> afidegnum: instructions worked?
I searched in internet and couldn't find any solution to get my Xperia U accessible in Ubuntu
[16:04] <dakotawulfy> cloneG well think u can use them  but not sure if u should
[16:04] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: how do I get the headers for the kernel precise needs?
It seems the device is not supported with Ubuntu
[16:05] <BluesKaj> dakotawulfy, pls stop with the "u" . use the real word pls
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> !u
[16:06] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: the thing is easy, I am using 12.04 I should stay with the kernel for this version...but! why the hell automatic updates get kernels for newer versions and mess it all up??
[16:06] <donvito|2> hello, im trying to install simple machine forum, and simple portal , but i need to add chmod 0777 to some folder for my username nertil , how should i do that
[16:06] <dakotawulfy> cloneG mine did the same
[16:06] <BluesKaj> too many texters coming in who can't express themselves in real english and can't punctuate a sentence to save their lives
[16:06] <DJones> Supercomp: Are you using 13.04?
[16:06] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: this is annoying!
[16:07] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I was happy with ubuntu 12.04 since a couple of weeks ago...
[16:07] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: when the kernel upgraded
 No it is 11.04
[16:08] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: but would you tell me how to get the packages I need?
 I checked in 12.04 also, it didn't work
[16:09] <johnjohn1011> cloneG: what kernel are you trying to get for what version?
[16:09] <DJones> Supercomp: Thats the problem, the drivers for mtp were significantly improved for 13.04, I've not had much sucess with anything prior to that
[16:09] <donvito|2> hello, im trying to install simple machine forum, and simple portal , but i need to add chmod 0777 to some folder for my username nertil , how should i do that
[16:09] <orated> Hi! I found that syslog and kern.log in /var/log is taking up 5GiB each. I was wondering why my system's /var and /usr are consuming ~10GiB each. Is it fine if I delete syslog and kern.log from /var/log ?
[16:09] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: for linuxheaders 3.2.0-40 I found this: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-updates-main-i386/linux-headers-3.2.0-40-generic_3.2.0-40.64_i386.deb.html
 You mean to say it should work in 13.04
[16:09] <DJones> Supercomp: I'd suggest downloading a 13.04 iso and just try a live USB version to see if it detects it
[16:09] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: should I download and install that?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> cloneG, you've mucked up your graphics driver with x-swat ppa  , stay away from it ans consult with us before yopu add one the next time
 Will do it. Thanks
[16:10] <DJones> Supercomp: Good luck
[16:10] <orated> *on desktop installation
[16:10] <dakotawulfy> cloneG if the old one works you should be fine   you need to use jocky-gtk install the driver should work
[16:10] <cloneG> BluesKaj: I was warned
[16:11] <dakotawulfy> cloneG but not going to fix the other problem
[16:12] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: no trusty ppa for nvidia drivers?
[16:12] <dakotawulfy> cloneG by putting in the nvidia common u got what u need in there
[16:13] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I get it...
[16:13] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: how could I get back to default?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> cloneG, you don't need a ppa , the avialable drivers should work , but your nvidia-xconfig probly needs updating in order for thedriver to load properly
[16:14] <dakotawulfy> cloneG use the one i showed you with the screen shot
[16:14] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: I mean the synaptic packages are all messed up because none matches the ubuntu version I am using
[16:15] <cloneG> BluesKaj: yes that is what nvidia-settings tell me
[16:16] <hFortich> test
[16:16] <alkap> Question about changing locale environment variables.
[16:16] <dakotawulfy> cloneG get rid of the repo  that u added for the other one for video that will clean it up a little
[16:16] <alkap> Anyone able to help?
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> dakotawulfy  'you', not 'u', please
[16:17] <dakotawulfy> Sorry
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !leet | dakotawulfy
[16:17] <cloneG> dakotawulfy: what about this one other: http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu
[16:17] <BluesKaj> dakotawulfy, pretend we we can't reas texting code
[16:18] <BluesKaj> cloneG, what makes you think that you need ppa drivers ?
[16:19] <cloneG> BluesKaj: new system -->new drivers
[16:19] <hFortich> say hi
[16:19] <hFortich> hi
[16:19] <oz7t> Still looking for people knowing something about parralport programming i C for Linux ubuntu
[16:19] <BluesKaj> cloneG, no that's incorrect , which nvidia card ?
[16:19] <cloneG> BluesKaj: nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[16:20] <BluesKaj> cloneG, the nvidia-current . probly the 304 will run the 8800gt just fine
[16:21] <fwaokda_> How can I fix it so my system doesn't crash whenever i go to “System Settings > Details”?
[16:21] <cloneG> BluesKaj: yes it did...before the kernel upgrade
[16:21] <oz7t> Still looking for people knowing something about parralport programming i C for Linux ubuntu  i don't gve up hi hi
[16:22] <cloneG> BluesKaj: then I got this: http://postimg.org/image/870rnkvir/
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> oz7t  try ##c++       (that's double #)
[16:22] <oz7t> monkey thank  i try
[16:22] <paulens> http://sdrv.ms/13WsGup
[16:22] <paulens> why am i getting this???
[16:22] <cloneG> BluesKaj: and need to run: sudo remove --purge nvidia* to access desktop
[16:23] <paulens> help please!
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> paulens  start with a question
[16:23] <ichat_> BluesKaj,  sounds like an nvidia issue with your new kerneel
[16:24] <paulens> it says BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000000000p00043c
[16:24] <paulens> MonkeyDust: my question is in the screenshot
[16:24] <BluesKaj> cloneG, yeah , for now and the nouveau driver will run , but I haven't seen this with other 8800gt users
[16:24] <paulens> [19:22] <paulens> why am i getting this???
[16:24] <cloneG> BluesKaj: at startx I am getting this error: failed to load device file /dev/nvidia0 (input/output error) if any nvidia package installed
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !details |
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> paulens  ^^^^
[16:25] <thurstylark> My computer is warning me about the update broken count is >0. What do I need to do to fix this?
[16:25] <paulens> MonkeyDust: everything is in the screenshot. please don't be lazy and open it...
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> paulens  don't be lazy and just type the question
[16:26] <paulens> WHY AM I GETTING THIS?
[16:26] <paulens> typed twice before
[16:26] <ichat_> donte be rude man
[16:26] <cloneG> BluesKaj: I would like to get this solved...
[16:26] <ichat_> cloneG,  did you seach the nvidia user forums?
[16:27] <paulens> MonkeyDust: just installed ubuntu 13, trying to boot, and i get this output after grub
[16:28] <cloneG> BluesKaj: dakotaWulfy has been helping me trying to synch kernel version with linux-headers pointing that might be the problem and once synchronized using jockey-gtk to install recommended driver
[16:28] <MusMuHe> hi all
[16:29] <spice4life> so, what are you guys up to?
[16:29] <cloneG> ichat_ they quickly tell you its a linux issue
[16:29] <thurstylark> My computer is warning me about the update broken count is >0. What do I need to do to fix this?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> cloneG, well, he might be right , are you on 12.04 ?
[16:29] <adamk_> paulens, You hit a kernel panic.  Could be caused by any number of things.
[16:30] <cloneG> BluesKaj: ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[16:30] <paulens> adamk_: eh... how do i fix it? i mean how do i troubleshoot it?
[16:30] <adamk_> paulens, Try booting with acpi and/or lapic disabled.  Try a different kernel.  Run memtest on your computer.
[16:30] <cloneG> BluesKaj: and the kernel and headers are synch to 3.5.0
[16:30] <adamk_> paulens, File a bug report :-)
[16:31] <jair> guys is there such a thing like an installer for ubuntu besides the live version? I think before was called optional or additional? something like that?
[16:31] <cloneG> BluesKaj but not working 3d acceleration
[16:31] <paulens> adamk_: i just installed ubuntu, ao this is a stock kernel
[16:31] <cloneG> Blueskaj: indeed the kernel module is not loading
[16:31] <thurstylark> jair: it's called the alternate install
[16:31] <ichat_> adamk  - a bug report before you  die a search on  hcl  ?
[16:31] <paulens> adamk_: how do i get the textual log? now i can only take screenshots with my camera...
[16:31] <jair> thurstylark: perfect that is what I am looking for!
[16:31] <thurstylark> jair: It's all text based, and it works really well :)
[16:32] <jair> thurstylark: yes, exactly is there one available for the latest version of ubuntu?
[16:32] <ichat_> paulens,  remove  --quiet --spash (or somthing) from your boot option
[16:32] <thurstylark> jair: no problem! It's in a specific section, let me find it...
[16:32] <BluesKaj> cloneG, i recall having problems with nvidia on 12.04 , but it wasn't kernel module failure , it was a crappy driver so  iused nouveau for w=quite a while til the nvidia driver issue was fixed
[16:33] <k2> i connect using PPPoE connection
[16:33] <thurstylark> jair: here you go: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[16:33] <k2> i cant disconnect
[16:33] <paulens> maybe recovery mode?
[16:34] <k2>  i connect using PPPoE connection    i cant disconnect
[16:34] <paulens> ichat_: maybe recovery mode?
[16:34] <k2> poff command fils
[16:34] <cloneG> BluesKaj: would you downgrade kernel? I think that is not the way to go... but I dont really know what to think when the 13.04 is not lts nevermore
[16:34] <k2> poff command fails
[16:34] <BluesKaj> cloneG, the upgrade to 12.10 fixed my problem btw
[16:34] <sere> Does banshee require jacker server to play music? i keep getting errors on both
[16:34] <jair> thurstylark: thanks so much
[16:35] <k2> i connect using PPPoE connection    i cant disconnect
[16:35] <sere> banshee and rhythmbox*
[16:35] <k2> poff fails
[16:35] <jair> thurstylark: very good that this still exist.  Will download it and see if I can put it in a usb
[16:35] <ichat_> paulens,  hit your grub boot opitions  ...
[16:35] <paulens> ichat_: can't find quiet or spash
[16:35] <k2> i connect using PPPoE connection    i cant disconnect
[16:36] <k2> i connect using PPPoE connection    i cant disconnect using "poff"
[16:36] <paulens> ichat_: it says 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a command line
[16:36] <sere> we get it
[16:36] <paulens> ichat_: i pressed e and it have me something similar to if/else statement
[16:36] <k2> k2 says, cannot disconnet from internet
[16:36] <jair> thurstylark: perfect I come from the debian distros and i love the netinst I did not know there was one for ubuntu ;)
[16:36] <k2> k2 says, cannot disconnet from internet
[16:36] <jair> thurstylark: that is what i was looking for!!
[16:36] <k2> k2 says, cannot disconnet from internet
[16:37] <jair> thurstylark: thank you again...
[16:37] <BluesKaj> cloneG, 13.04 is really quite stable so far , no nvidia driver problems at all , upgrading to 12.10 might fix your issue tho
[16:37] <sere> k2 says, mute!
[16:37] <giovanni> @pokemontimes
[16:37] <giovanni> #pokemontimes
[16:37] <cloneG> BluesKaj: but 12.04 has support till 2017!!
[16:38] <cloneG> BluesKaj: this is the window I get when running Jockey-gtk with only nvidia-common installed: http://postimg.org/image/tqr7z4lh5/
[16:38] <ichat_> paulens,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 sorry took me to find page
[16:38] <sere> 13.4 is only a year....dont know why but im using it
[16:38] <cloneG> BluesKaj: and this is what dakotawulfy told me to choose: http://ompldr.org/vaWJtaw/2013-05-05_650x588--1367764049.jpg
[16:39] <paulens> ichat_: sorry for being such a noob, but what exactly should i look for? :/
[16:39] <cloneG> BluesKaj: should I run nvidia-xconfig?
[16:39] <dhci> anyone familiar with xset and putting screens in and out of standby? If the monitors are in standby and I use 'xset dpms force on', the monitors come back to green mode (energized) but the displays are still blank. I have to input a keystroke to the keyboard and then it comes back. Is there a command I can run instead?
[16:39] <sere> cloneg: you dont havethe module loaded
[16:40] <cloneG> BluesKaj: so? how do I get it loaded?=
[16:40] <sere> drivers*
[16:40] <sere> nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[16:41] <BluesKaj> cloneG, I recall having problems with the riva driver , open a terminal , sudo nvidia-xconfig , then reboot
[16:41] <cloneG> BluesKaj: okay following your advice...see you...I hope
[16:42] <ichat_> paulens,  when you hit E   than  move your cursor to  quiete splash and remove (only) those 2 words
[16:42] <ichat_> than you will see all textual output
[16:43] <paulens> ichat_: yeah i understood that, but i can't find those words there
[16:43] <cloneG> BluesKaj: sudo nvidia-xconfig outputs nothing
[16:43] <cloneG> BluesKaj: it says command not found
[16:43] <sere> cloneG: no drivers
[16:44] <sere> nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[16:44] <ichat_> paulens,  - than what do you see there
[16:44] <BluesKaj> cloneG, that means you have no nvidia driver installed
[16:45] <BluesKaj> only the updates
[16:45] <chewyboy000> Hi
[16:46] <cloneG> BluesKaj: ofcourse I dont!!! I need to pick it up from jockey-gtk list !! I was supposed to get the recommended driver on that list after running nvidia-xconfig and rebooting!!!!!
[16:46] <oz7t> I am still looking for people knowing something about parrallelport programming  pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:46] <chewyboy000> I have a question I am installing ubuntu but does it have flash/Java support??
[16:47] <ichat_> oz7t,  type  /join  ##c++   like you where told half an hour ago
[16:47] <BluesKaj> cloneG, thast list shows the riva driver /nvidia is installed , unless that'san old screenshot
[16:47] <paulens_> ichat_: sorry connection dropped
[16:47] <cloneG> BluesKaj: the only nvidia installed is nvidia-common otherwise the desktop is not accesible
[16:47] <oz7t> icat i tried but no ansver  thanks
[16:47] <oz7t> ichat i was waiting 20 minutes  hi hi
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ok , cloneG have it your way , good luck
[16:48] <chewyboy000> Does Ubuntu have Java support?
[16:48] <ichat_> oz7t,  there are so chans that could help you, but ubuntu is certainly not one of them
[16:48] <sere> chewyboy000: ust download the flash and jre packages i forget the name
[16:49] <oz7t> ichat no problem i will find a solution   thanks
[16:49] <chewyboy000> Is it the real Java or the OpenJDK java/
[16:49] <erdinc> hello please help me how to change desktop icons font color?
[16:49] <erdinc> on xubuntu
[16:50] <sere> chewyboy000: i think its open..sec
[16:50] <rtnb> Hi I'm having problems with my internet connection in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I'm on a wired connection and internet access seems to cut out on and off every few minutes.  The network remains connected but I lose internet access only on the Ubuntu machine... any ideas?
[16:50] <cloneG> BluesKaj: the screenshots I posted dont show nvidia riva installed...
[16:50] <ichat_> paulens,  im unsure why you can find these boot options,    sorry
[16:50] <chewyboy000> Okay
[16:50] <cloneG> BluesKaj: well not active at least
[16:51] <cloneG> BluesKaj: if I set nvidia riva active the screen goes corrupted
[16:51] <o3u> anyone have TENDA WIRELESS USB W311M NANO 802N 150 ? working out of the box on 12.10?
[16:52] <oz7t> my screen give only green pictures  where is my problem  ubuntu 13.o4
[16:52] <BluesKaj> cloneG, ok try the experimental driver
[16:52] <cloneG> BluesKaj: LOL
[16:52] <donvito|2> how to reach via the internet, folders like portal, and forum ? i have dyndns my ip but i cant reach anything on /var/www folder
[16:52] <chewyboy000> Is it Open JDK or not?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> well ,it worked for me , cloneG , and my card is just an  elcheapo 8400gs
[16:53] <lolbat> Why is srm so slow at deleting stuff?
[16:53] <wins> hello, how can i switch from unity to the old gnome interface on ubuntu 13.04?
[16:53] <cloneG> BluesKaj: okay thanks bye
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | wins start here
[16:54] <sere> chewyboy000: its opejdk
[16:55] <chewyboy000> Is there a way to get real Java or is that really complicated like with .tar.gz packages
[16:55] <wins> ubottu, thx buddy
[16:56] <sere> chewyboy000: if i remember correct i thought there was a java package in the past but i could be wrong
[16:56] <kinesis> vsftpd will not let me login. what could be the issue?
[16:56] <oz7t> where shall i change to get normal colors on my screen ??
[16:56] <o3u> anyone have TENDA WIRELESS USB W311M NANO 802N 150 ? working out of the box on ubuntu 12.10?
[16:56] <sere> chewyboy000: Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime
[16:57] <sere> chewyboy000: thats the default-jre package
[16:58] <kinesis> vsftpd will not let me login. what could be the issue?
[16:58] <johnjohn1011> o3u: did you buy it yet?
[16:58] <donvito|2> how to reach via the internet, folders like portal, and forum ? i have dyndns my ip but i cant reach anything on /var/www folder
[16:59] <oz7t> what shall i do to get normal colors on my screen  ???????
[17:00] <Pa^2> Any one successful with WordFlashReader?  Speedreading software.  Any alternative suggestions?
[17:00] <chewyboy000> sere: Is the package default-jre in the Ubuntu Software Centre
[17:01] <kinesis> vsftpd will not let me login. what could be the issue?
[17:01] <betrayd> !details |  oz7t
[17:01] <johnjohn1011> o3u: just did a quick search. that dongle seems to be be well supported
[17:01] <bekks> kinesis: An user account with no permissions to log in.
[17:02] <boxes> anyone able to help with vlc or ps3mediaserver
[17:03] <frank_> hi there, any one know if a Medion USB DVB-T dongle is supported by Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[17:03] <bekks> frank_: It depends on the chipset used.
[17:03] <donvito|2> how to reach via the internet, folders like portal, and forum ? i have dyndns my ip but i cant reach anything on /var/www folder
[17:05] <frank_> hi bekks it should be based on a realtek chip
[17:06] <bekks> frank_: Never heard of DVB-T dongles with a Realtek chipset.
[17:06] <donvito|2> ls - CCcamInfoPHP  index.html  phpsysinfo  portal
[17:06] <donvito|2> this is how my /var/www/ looks
[17:07] <betrayd> donvito|2: doesny dyndns require you to run a script to link your current external IP to your box
[17:08] <donvito|2> betrayd let me check
[17:08] <betrayd> ah
[17:08] <delac> can anyone explain to me why "aticonfig --od-getcloks" shows "GPU load" as zero on gameplay? The load does sometimes show few percentage on normal desktop use, but only zero when playing games.
[17:08] <moppers> frank_, PCI one is ... i know yo have usb, maybe that site also knows ... http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards
[17:08] <donvito|2> ok how to reach the www folder with my ip?
[17:09] <donvito|2> example http://ip.ip:80/portal
[17:09] <bekks> donvito|2: You have to create a portforwarding on your router.
[17:09] <donvito|2> i did that
[17:09] <moppers> it should work then
[17:09] <betrayd> donvito|2: sure there's not a newer external IP
[17:09] <betrayd> ?
[17:09] <frank_> hi bekks it is this one, i really dont know what chip it uses but the name on the dongle is: Medion 	Mini DVB-T USB Stick 	MD 86351
[17:09] <donvito|2> im sure
[17:09] <bekks> donvito|2: And being behind a router, most likely it isnt capable of dealing with loopback NAT, so you have to test that from outside.
[17:10] <bekks> frank_: The name is pretty irrelevant, the chipset is the important information.
[17:10] <CarlFK> how do I find what package supplies apt-add-repository ?
[17:10] <donvito|2> should i open port 80 on router?
[17:10] <moppers> donvito|2, i jsut got here, have you made sure the server is up?
[17:10] <bekks> donvito|2: Of course, if you want to access it from outside.
[17:10] <donvito|2> moppers yes i cant acces from localhost
[17:10] <moppers> donvito|2, that;s dependent on the router... some will do that as part of port forward automaticlaly
[17:10] <moppers> cant?
[17:11] <donvito|2> TCP or UDP?
[17:11] <frank_> okay i will try to find out
[17:11] <moppers> wait
[17:11] <bekks> donvito|2: Does http://localhost:80/portal work?
[17:11] <moppers> if oyu are accessing the server from localhost, why are you going through the router?
[17:11] <moppers> of course that wont work!
[17:11] <donvito|2> its fine now
[17:11] <donvito|2> http://nertiltvbox.no-ip.org/portal/
[17:11] <donvito|2> can anyone check does it work?
[17:12] <moppers> i guess i missed the start of the question, as it makes no sense. i'll be quiet now.
[17:12] <rtnb> i'm ssh'ing into a remote machine and just today it started telling me that /etc/sudoers cant be found and I can't run sudo operations on it
[17:12] <betrayd> i seea forum, donvito|2
[17:12] <bekks> donvito|2: Works.
[17:12] <donvito|2> it works
[17:12] <rtnb> I tried apt-get install sudo but apt-get command isnt found
[17:12] <donvito|2> nice!
[17:13] <felon> i could not download all repository indexes resulting in a error when doing updates, can someone help me im on 13.04
[17:13] <betrayd>  rtnb you put sudo at the end?
[17:14] <rtnb> at the end of what?
[17:14] <o3u> johnjohn1011: Thanks!
[17:14] <betrayd> rtnb: seems like you wanted to install sudo
[17:14] <moppers> betrayd, he's trying to reinstall sudo it looks like. and it looks like the machine is broke, as apt-get isnt installed
[17:14] <rtnb> yea
[17:15] <rtnb> apt-get command not found
[17:15] <felon> no public key it says : NO_PUBKEY D6BD7D4144A31152Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[17:15] <betrayd> yes moppers but is that a direct paste
[17:15] <moppers> rtnb, apt-get should be in /usr/bin on ubuntu
[17:15] <cassien> Hi everyone! I'm in trouble with my computer Presario CQ57. I want to active the WIfi on my laptop but the button doesn't turn on. Can someone help me ? I've tried all ways that I could find on web
[17:15] <moppers> rtnb, try it wih the path specified like that, in case your local shell vars are broke
[17:17] <rtnb> moppers, so /usr/bin/apt-get install ?
[17:17] <rtnb> sorry im kind of new to ubuntu
[17:17] <sere> cassien: type iwconfig and see if you got an interface for your card
[17:17] <moppers> rtnb, yes ... but would i would be tempted to reintall, that's a weird system you have
[17:17] <rtnb> i cant
[17:17] <rtnb> this is just the box on my hosting
[17:17] <betrayd> rtnb: is why sudo runs it, sudo may have the correct path
[17:18] <moppers> rtnb, are you sure it's ubuntu?
[17:18] <frank_> @bekks it says Siano SMS1140 on the chip (i took i apart :)
[17:18] <rtnb> no good point i just realized that
[17:18] <rtnb> ill get in touch with support
[17:18] <cassien> sere: results are ra0     Ralink STA   ;   eth0 no wireless extansions      ;   lo     no wireless extensions
[17:18] <moppers> rtnb, lsb_release -a
[17:18] <rtnb> command not found
[17:19] <moppers> rtnb, uname -a
[17:19] <betrayd> or cat /etc/issue ?
[17:19] <rtnb> hmm
[17:19] <rtnb> nothing there seems to tell the distro
[17:20] <rtnb> Linux host354.hostmonster.com 2.6.32-20130307.60.9.bh6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Mar 7 15:58:33 EST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:20] <moppers> bh6?
[17:20] <rtnb> idk
[17:21] <chiluk> so I have a laptop with nvidia optimus graphics on it.  I just installed raring.  Then upgraded all packages.. Everything was working fine.  As soon as I install the nvidia binary driver, and reboot, X core dumps, and unity refuses to launch.. does anyone know about this?
[17:21] <moppers> rtnb, if you type 'yum' is that command found?
[17:21] <rtnb> CRITICAL:yum.cli:Config Error: Error accessing file for config file:///etc/yum.conf
[17:22] <chiluk> is there a channel for X/unity problems?
[17:22] <moppers> rtnb, you have yum: you 're fedora or centos or amazon linux or redhat or one of the other yum distros
[17:22] <rtnb> ok im sorry i put this in the wrong place!
[17:22] <rtnb> thanks
[17:23] <sere> cassien: check your logs and see if your getting an erro...also make sure you dhcpd is running
[17:24] <rtnb> I am having another problem on my Ubuntu machine though..... half the time I try to bring up a website i get "server not found"
[17:24] <rtnb> then after a few minutes it'll work
[17:24] <rtnb> i'm on a wired connection, using 12.04 LTS
[17:27] <CarlFK> I need rarring's   /usr/bin/apt-add-repository  which is in http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/software-properties-common/download   so I wget it, dpkg -i ...deb.. get  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured - is there a better way to do this ?
[17:27] <agu10^_> okay at /var/www i can create dirs. but at /var/www/wildcard i can't! Why is this? wildcard is 775.
[17:29] <o3u> johnjohn1011: where can i check ? MMNOX Wireless N USB Adapter (MX-W311MI)
[17:31] <gustav> agu10^_: You don't own wildcard?
[17:31] <betrayd> agu10^_:  have to, if you want to start making dirs
[17:33] <agu10^_>  thanks
[17:34] <quick-> Hi , how can i install new themes in ubuntu 12.04 LTS with gnome ? Please help.
[17:35] <cloneG> BluesKaj: The experimental driver made the graphic environment crash too
[17:36] <cloneG> BluesKaj: what is the linux-backports-modules-headers-precise-generic-pae:i386 for?
[17:36] <jiffe1> there anyway to find out what is running in swap?
[17:37] <cloneG> BluesKaj: what backported means?
[17:37] <thomedy> im trying to set up a printer in 12.04
[17:37] <thomedy> and when i goto printers in unity it doens't recognize my driver
[17:38] <earl2> hi.  is there some kind of vnc or related remote desktop service configured by default on ubuntu?
[17:38] <Walex2> thomedy: our psychic advisors are scrying to figure out which driver should be used and which printer you have :-)
[17:39] <thomedy> tell chloe shes doing an amazing job im assuming shees your bos
[17:39] <thomedy> epson workforce 520 all in one printer
[17:40] <thomedy> in google it said it should automaticcally
[17:40] <thomedy> fin d the driver
[17:40] <thomedy> im running 1204
[17:41] <RussellAlan> Upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04 32bit... after my BIOS finishes, the screen starts going all crazy until LOGIN screen on ubuntu (so this passes up my grub menu)
[17:41] <alexandros_c> I am running ubuntu 13.04 and my sound just stopped working, please help get my sound back
[17:42] <oz7t> how can i get my colors on my screen back
[17:42] <Xtreme> hey guys
[17:42] <RussellAlan> hey Xtreme
[17:42] <chilicuil> hi there, are you aware of any Movie mode in Ubuntu?, I'm running ubuntu raring (installed in an old netbook to let my niece see cartoons in youtube) and after a while the system locks itself, in my dev machine I run this code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636132/ , however I'd like to do it, the ubuntu classical way (unity)
[17:42] <Xtreme> i have noticed that videos are not clear on ubuntu as they were on windows..
[17:43] <Xtreme> .xvid
[17:43] <Xtreme> i have vlc..
[17:43] <Xtreme> what am i missing on?
[17:43] <Guest93254> what is this
[17:43] <betrayd> hey jack
[17:44] <Guest93254> he betrayd
[17:45] <oz7t> how can i get my colors on my screen back   It happend whwn i was going from 12.10 to 13.04
[17:45] <cloneG> I am having a problem with nvidia packages.not activating driver,  only installing packages the x server fails to start. ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[17:45] <Xtreme> anyone
[17:45] <cloneG> how could I fix this?
[17:45] <Xtreme> ?
[17:46] <Guest93254> tel me about installation
[17:47] <betrayd> cloneG: time to look at xorg.0.log & .xsession-errors
[17:47] <Guest93254> hi lioquant
[17:47] <RussellAlan> Upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04 32bit... after my BIOS finishes, the screen starts going all crazy until LOGIN screen on ubuntu (so this passes up my grub menu)
[17:47] <RussellAlan> been reading places
[17:47] <RussellAlan> but no situation is the same.
[17:48] <schreber> Is there a "dummy" guide to setting up a LAMP server using Ubuntu so that it can mimic a Windows AD Server?
[17:51] <Walex2> thomedy: have you tried checking what CUPS thinks its printers are? That it connecting to http://localhost:631/
[17:52] <Walex2> thomedy: it would be found automatically if it is supported...
[17:52] <cloneG> betrayd: I am in darrinh 's shoes but that fix didnt work for me: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=114091&page=2
[17:54] <SP0x> hello everybody
[17:54] <michel71> hello
[17:54] <thomedy> it was a stupid problem
[17:54] <thomedy> i have a secure network
[17:55] <thomedy> and i thought the printer had the passcode put in i fixed it im fixeing the whole situation already
[17:55] <Walex2> thomedy: ahhhh
[17:55] <frank_> hi bekks it says Siano SMS1140 on the chip (i took i apart :)
[17:55] <cloneG> betrayd: and where can I find .x-sessions?
[17:55] <thomedy> i made a small bash script that i put in bin and im making my first icon using a *.desktop file in launcher here pretty soon
[17:55] <thomedy> im prety excited
[17:55] <cloneG> betrayd: .xsession-errors
[17:58] <michel71> in a bash script, how does one check if a program is already installed on the computer?
[17:58] <Walex2> michel71: which program?
[17:58] <Walex2> michel71: and installed in what way?
[17:58] <michel71> gedit
[17:59] <Walex2> michel71: uhmmmm one way is with the command 'which' or with 'type'. Another is to check whether the package containing the program is installed, like 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/gedit'
[18:00] <Walex2> michel71: but I would be wary of checking for things like that. perhaps you are trying to solve the wrong problem
[18:01] <SP0x> is there a keyboard shortcut for minimizing windows?
[18:01] <SP0x> in ubuntu 13
[18:01] <SP0x> or do i have to make one?
[18:02] <Walex2> michel71: if you want replies except in very rare cases you should not msg people privately
[18:08] <Gerowen> So how do I set the new "Files" application to show me hidden files?
[18:09] <jesper85m> hi guys i was woundering how i know if i have drivers for my grafic card?
[18:10] <Gerowen> Nevermind, got it
[18:11] <SP0x> btw guys, what's the most secure ftpd?
[18:11] <zoktar> Can you rebind alt (tap) for unity command to something like alt+windowsbutton? alt messes alot of games up
[18:13] <dino__> Good morning!   Have a small problem using screen as my shell.  It works great when I login using ssh (have nice access to multiple running screens, etc.)  But, when I attempt to SFTP into the machine, it get errors about response length.  My guess is that something in the config is causing screen to spit back the entire screen to the SSH client.  Any ideas how to fix this
[18:13] <muelli> dino__: how did you configure screen being your shell?
[18:13] <b1tchass_n1gger> i have trouble with UBUNTU 13.10
[18:14] <zoktar> found it
[18:14] <b1tchass_n1gger> help me
[18:14] <muelli> b1tchass_n1gger: #ubuntu+1
[18:14] <b1tchass_n1gger> my CPU is 100% all the time
[18:14] <eugene^> hi
[18:14] <dino__> muelli:  set it as default shell in /etc/passwd
[18:15] <nownot> I have a bash script that run a php script every 5 seconds that parses a twitter feed. I want this script to start when the computer starts and I have a few questions regarding this. Will having the bash script every 5 seconds have a factor on the performance of the machine, its basically a while with a sleep 5. How do I make it to where this scripts start upon system start?
[18:15] <jesper85m> how do i find the swedish ubuntu channel?
[18:15] <shankstaBytes> can some one tell me how to specify port when using "connect to server" and the protocol is sftp?
[18:15] <OerHeks> !se
[18:15] <shankstaBytes> i am really annoyed how the Gnome team keeps removing features
[18:15] <muelli> dino__: hm. interesting. I don't think sftp should be affected by that. But I don't fully know. Can you pastebin the errors that you get?
[18:16] <Walex2> nownot: that is a rather peculiar way to do it.
[18:16] <Walex2> nownot: 'man crontab'
[18:16] <anzenketh> Whenever I set a interface ifconfig -a shows that the interface was renamed.
[18:16] <nownot> Walex2: Im open for suggestions
[18:16] <muelli> nownot: hm. I think I would use a cronjob. For both, every five minutes and on boot. */5 * * * * and @reboot will help you
[18:16] <nownot> Walex2: you can, from my reading, do a cronjob based on seconds … could be wrong on this
[18:17] <muelli> shankstaBytes: like what?
[18:17] <nownot> or maybe you can, don't know wtf i was looking at …
[18:17] <shankstaBytes> muelli: if you dont know then you probably dont use those features
[18:17] <nownot> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/07/cron-every-5-minutes/ <-- Cron job cannot be used to schedule a job in seconds interval.
[18:17] <shankstaBytes> lots of nautilus features were remove
[18:17] <shankstaBytes> removed
[18:17] <shankstaBytes> and they made 2 different menus
[18:17] <shankstaBytes> its bad for Unity
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> shankstaBytes, This is not ubuntu complaints but support.
[18:18] <Walex2> nownot: what can do is to schedule a script every minute, and then the scripts does 11 repetitions every 5 seconds.
[18:18] <Walex2> nownot: in that way you get the automatic running of CRON and the every-5-seconds that you want.
[18:18] <nownot> agh, so the /11 will do a minute /11 so every 5 seconds
[18:18] <nownot> gotcha coach, thanks!
[18:19] <Walex2> nownot: something like 'for N in {1..11}; do SOMETHING; sleep 5; done' and you run that as a CROn job
[18:19] <shankstaBytes> wilee-nilee: so can you answer my question?
[18:19] <nownot> Walex2: ummm that part just really confused me
[18:20] <bekks> for i in `seq 1 ... :)
[18:20] <virus_ger> hey guys
[18:20] <muelli> shankstaBytes: I invite you to discuss your matters on nautilus-list: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list
[18:20] <nownot> Walex2: agh shit gotcha, thanks
[18:20] <virus_ger> anybody got a link how i can install ubuntu + windows7 on the same harddrive?
[18:21] <shankstaBytes> muelli: that was no my question
[18:21] <shankstaBytes> can some one tell me how to specify port when using "connect to server" and the protocol is sftp?
[18:21] <muelli> shankstaBytes: I'd expect sftp://foo:2222/
[18:21] <bekks> shankstaBytes: sftp://ip:port/
[18:21] <OerHeks> sftp user@address -p 443
[18:22] <Walex2> virus_ger: there are very many "dual boot" pages, just do a web search with the obvious keywords
[18:26] <prime_> morning all
[18:26] <GodsFlaw> k so installed on two different drives only get blinking currsor on restart ideas?
[18:27] <bekks> !nomodeset | GodsFlaw
[18:27] <prime_> Is this the place for a laptop question?
[18:27] <Gerowen> Question: I've been using Google Chrome for a while, and starting after the upgrade to 13.04, if I use peppermint flash, flash videos lag horribley in fullscreen.  If I disable peppermint flash and use the flash from the repositories, flash videos play just fine, but random web page elements get garbled beyond usage, some of which don't even appear to use flash, like the photo uploader on Facebook.  Reference this screenshot: ht
[18:27] <Gerowen> tp://ubuntuone.com/2iqiMSWp34auuHDocZSWgn
[18:27] <Gerowen> http://ubuntuone.com/2iqiMSWp34auuHDocZSWgn
[18:28] <Gerowen> However those same elements, using flash from the repos, work just fine in Firefox
[18:28] <Gerowen> But Firefox still feels sluggish compared to Chrome.
[18:28] <prime_> researched a bunch on the S76 Lemur, but can't find many actual reviews. Does anyone here have any hands on experience?
[18:29] <XHEART24> iron man 3? english
[18:29] <dakotawulfy>  Gerowen  i been checking out qupzilla seem to be fast works for a lot of things
[18:30] <DJones> !piracy | XHEART24
[18:30] <XHEART24> ok.
[18:31] <Sp0x> go to thepiratebay.com :D
[18:32] <prime_> Does anyone have a suggestion for a small laptop that runs ubuntu flawlessly? STarting to think they don't exist...
[18:32] <FlowRiser> prime_, of course they do
[18:33] <OerHeks> !hcl
[18:33] <doomlord> wow, great to see the cintiq support
[18:33] <doomlord> pleasantly surprised by that
[18:33] <FlowRiser> prime_, take a look at the asus eeepc series, i have an older model and it runs ubuntu flawlessly
[18:34] <prime_> OK Thank you very much - I'm new and keep reading about battery/fan/wifi issues on laptops...
[18:35] <FlowRiser> prime_, I would argue that most of the laptops and pcs can work out of the box with ubuntu
[18:39] <habstinat> How can I share wifi from my laptop to my desktop through an ethernet cable?
[18:40] <SwedeMike> habstinat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:43] <XHEART24> has anyone here conveted mp4 to avi?
[18:44] <josefjindra> yes
[18:44] <XHEART24> using ubuntu 12
[18:46] <mizifih> XHEART24: You need to convert videos, is that it?
[18:47] <XHEART24> yes
[18:47] <XHEART24> i have a sony media player but it does not read mp4
[18:47] <XHEART24> i want to transfer the video to a usb stick and see it on my media player, i do not have plasma yet
[18:48] <mizifih> avidemux
[18:48] <XHEART24> i only have ubuntu 12.04
[18:48] <mizifih> XHEART24: avidemux?
[18:48] <frosty> i think i've found a wierd bug :-), if i double click on a simple dropdown like the one in the example on http://w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_select my screen turns black until i release, anyone else tried?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm. weird media player that dosent support mp4
[18:50] <XHEART24> i only have to download it? avidemux?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> avidemux is in the repos yes.
[18:50] <Dr_willis> !info avidemux
[18:50] <XHEART24> it is a sony media player it is not new
[18:50] <mizifih> XHEART24: go to software/application center and search for it
[18:50] <Dr_willis> you need to determine what file formats/codecs it can play.
[18:51] <Dr_willis> it could be you just need to rename the video.mp4 to be video.avi
[18:51] <XHEART24> i have not tried that
[18:52] <nanvou> hellp
[18:52] <mizifih> XHEART24: oh, yeah, mp4 and avi are containers
[18:52] <nanvou> I'm trying to enable vino-server
[18:52] <nanvou> by using "gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true"
[18:52] <mizifih> Dr_willis is right
[18:52] <nanvou> but I get a "WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=bcd88addab015d57f51cd3e60000047e --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed."
[18:52] <XHEART24> by changing from mp4 to avi will it increase in size?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> if you can find a video it CAN play. you can see what codec its using
[18:53] <mizifih> Dr_willis: I believe avidemux do not convert what doesn't need to be converted
[18:53] <Dr_willis> ive been converting videos with avidemux all week... ;)
[18:53] <nanvou> how do I do that ?
[18:53] <mizifih> XHEART24: it depends on what you're going to do with the file, but he's saying just to change the extension
[18:53] <Dr_willis> XHEART24,  just try changeing the name.
[18:53] <XHEART24> ok thanks, you are so kind guys, take care
[18:54] <tony> hay gud
[18:54] <mizifih> XHEART24: wait
[18:54] <XHEART24> yes?
[18:54] <mizifih> XHEART24: that was a suggestion, trying to rename the filename (extension), but Avidemux can convert it for you
[18:54] <mizifih> for sure
[18:54] <brian____> Is it easy to change the 'waiting for network configuration' timeout?  I would prefer to have it set to 10 seconds instead of 120seconds..
[18:54] <Dr_willis> arista can also convert and has dozens of presets
[18:54] <nick14> shouldn't file give you a clue as to what type it is?
[18:55] <mizifih> nick14: kinda
[18:55] <Dr_willis> if you can find a video it CAN play. you can see what codec its using, the vlc player can tell you exactly the specs of the working video
[18:55] <mizifih> nick14: but mp4 files can contain a xvid video track, I believe
[18:55] <mizifih> I don't know
[18:55] <mizifih> video stuff is really crazy these days
[18:55] <XHEART24> the video plays well on the pc but not on the media player
[18:56] <XHEART24> thx for the help
[18:56] <Dr_willis> XHEART24,  again.. find a video that plays on the player.. and then we can determine what format its using.
[18:56] <mizifih> XHEART24: well... you'll have to convert it
[18:56] <XHEART24> ok
[18:56] <mizifih> AVI is not a video format
[18:56] <mizifih> it's just a container
[18:56] <Dr_willis> it might just need tobe called whatever.avi   instead of whatever.mp4
[18:56] <Dr_willis> or it might have to be some specific codecs
[18:57] <mizifih> Sony...
[18:57] <mizifih> It's probablu AVC something
[18:57] <mizifih> probably*
[18:57] <mizifih> is it AVC... I had some trouble with my PSP back when I used it to play videos
[18:57] <Dr_willis> hard to tell with sony these days.. the PSP i recall played mp4's but they had to be special encoded
[18:57] <mizifih> avc
[18:57] <mizifih> I think it was avc, if the name is right
[18:57] <nick14> mizifih: right, just a container?
[18:58] <mizifih> AVI, yeah
[18:58] <mizifih> Dr_willis: say the word, LOL
[18:58] <mizifih> Dr_willis: AVI just a container?
[18:58] <Dr_willis> you could hit up google for the exact name/type/make of the player  and find its specs as to what it can play.
[18:59] <CarlFK> apt-get install ssl-cert - that threw up some dialogs.  I want to see them again.  shouldn't apt-get purge ssl-cert; apt-get install ssl-cert do the same install ?
[19:00] <Dr_willis> CarlFK,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename       might do it.
[19:00] <anass> Hey
[19:00] <CarlFK> Dr_willis: nope :(
[19:00] <mizifih> "Audio Video Interleaved (also Audio Video Interleave), known by its initials AVI, is a multimedia container format introduced by Microsoft in November 1992 as part of its Video for Windows technology."
[19:01] <mizifih> nick14: I think I'm wrong though...
[19:01] <CarlFK> Dr_willis: also, my goal is to figure out how to install it without any user interaction.. so I need to figure out how to remove whatever it set
[19:02] <brian____> nevermind, found it in /etc/init/failsafe -- just had to adjust the sleep timers
[19:02] <treaverphoerig> Hey guys can you help me fix my keyboard problems on startup and installing Gnome-Shell-Extensions
[19:02] <mizifih> nick14: no, I think I'm right: An AVI file may carry audio/visual data inside the chunks in virtually any compression scheme, including Full Frame (Uncompressed), Intel Real Time (Indeo), Cinepak, Motion JPEG, Editable MPEG, VDOWave, ClearVideo / RealVideo, QPEG, and MPEG-4 Video.
[19:02] <jrib> CarlFK: why don't you use apt-get to install the package?
[19:03] <jrib> !find add-apt-repository
[19:03] <treaverphoerig> Jrib are you talking to me?
[19:04] <jrib> erm, maybe he wasn't a bot... oops
[19:04] <cp> hehe
[19:04] <CarlFK> jrib: I do.  it throws up a dialog.
[19:05] <CarlFK> jrib: oh, that.. trying to install the current version into precise
[19:05] <jrib> CarlFK: you're trying to install the current version of the package that provides add-apt-repository?
[19:06] <treaverphoerig> Could someone help me install Gnome-Shell-Extensions
[19:07] <treaverphoerig> If you could remote-desktop me I can show you my problem.
[19:07] <CarlFK> jrib: I wan to do "apt-add-repository multiverse" on a precise box, but that wasn't supported yet
[19:07] <jrib> treaverphoerig: generally, we don't advise people providing remote access to their computers for support issues; it's better and much safer for you to just explain the problem
[19:07] <treaverphoerig> I try to install Gnome-Shell-Extensions and it says they can't be found.
[19:08] <jrib> treaverphoerig: how do you try to install them?
[19:08] <treaverphoerig> I've added the PPA several times from different sources and still nothing
[19:08] <treaverphoerig> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme gnome-shell-extensions-dock gnome-shell-extensions-drive-menu gnome-shell-extensions-pidgin gnome-shell-extensions-system-monitor gnome-shell-extensions-weather gnome-shell-extensions-windows-navigator
[19:08] <jrib> treaverphoerig: pastebin full input and output at http://paste.ubuntu.com and then post the link here
[19:09] <treaverphoerig> So what do I do
[19:09] <neytiri> is there a way to keep the system from overwriting my resolv.conf file,   i have my addresses static set in the interfaces
[19:09] <jrib> !resolv.conf | neytiri
[19:09] <CarlFK> jrib: I have mostly given up on that.  the version that does depends on a python3 version, and I don't think I want to try to force that..  It just means I need 4 lines of apt-add-repository, oh well.
[19:10] <jrib> CarlFK: I don't think it's worth it.  Setting up multiverse is a one-time deal anyway
[19:10] <treaverphoerig> Jrib someone please help me
[19:10] <jrib> treaverphoerig: for us to help you, please:  pastebin full input and output at http://paste.ubuntu.com and then post the link here
[19:10] <muhe> !loc jrib
[19:11] <muhe> new in irc....
[19:11] <CarlFK> jrib: well, it is one time per testing a fairly large set of install scripts.  so figure 20 times a day.. over a few days.. I don't want to do anything by hand
[19:11] <muhe> sorry ubottu
[19:11] <nyuszika7h> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636424/
[19:11] <jrib> CarlFK: install scripts?
[19:11] <treaverphoerig> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636426/
[19:12] <CarlFK> jrib: https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/tree/master/tools/setup  all of those need to be run - and currently they don't becuse it needs to work on LTS
[19:12] <Dr_willis> treaverphoerig,  you did do a sudo apt-get update, after enabling the ppas?
[19:12] <treaverphoerig> Yes
[19:13] <lenz> Hey guys.
[19:13] <lenz> I'm having an issue with some external drives.
[19:13] <jrib> treaverphoerig: https://launchpad.net/~gnome-shell-extensions/+archive/ppa I only see one package there
[19:13] <lenz> My friend has an external drive that is not recognized by any of my ubuntu boxes.
[19:14] <lenz> It connects normally under win and os x though.
[19:14] <lenz> Am I missing some software?
[19:14] <treaverphoerig> How do I install these https://extensions.gnome.org/
[19:15] <Dr_willis> lenz,  is he  'safely removeing' it when removeing it from the windows machines? try to mount it by hand, that may show any error messages
[19:15] <Dr_willis> treaverphoerig,  i just clickon the slider button  next to the extension, and it installs here.
[19:15] <jrib> CarlFK: sorry but I'm not understanding the relationship between streaming-system and enabling multiverse
[19:15] <lenz> treaverphoerig, there's a slider next to the extensions; click it
[19:15] <Dr_willis> treaverphoerig,  what browser are you using?
[19:16] <nyuszika7h> anyone got an idea on this ALSA/Pulse error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636424/
[19:16] <nyuszika7h> (sorry for repost)
[19:16] <treaverphoerig> Chromium
[19:16] <Dr_willis> try firefox
[19:16] <lenz> Dr_willis, yeah I tried manual mount; it was as though its not plugged in
[19:16] <jrib> treaverphoerig: are you actually using gnome-shell by the way?
[19:16] <treaverphoerig> You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information.
[19:16] <treaverphoerig> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome
[19:17] <Dr_willis> lenz,  if sudo blkid, or 'sudo fdisk -l' dosent see it.. then theres a deeper issue going on. cable/port/drive
[19:17] <treaverphoerig> I found it! Thanks
[19:17] <lenz> Dr_willis, I'll try those two
[19:17] <treaverphoerig> Now how do I fix keyboard and mouse on startup
[19:17] <lenz> Thank you kind sir
[19:17] <Dr_willis> treaverphoerig,  tell us whats broken about them perhaps.
[19:18] <lenz> treaverphoerig, it normally works out of the box
[19:19] <treaverphoerig> My keyboard and mouse sometimes on boot do not even work. Not one button
[19:19] <lenz> Oh, one more question: I installed mediatomb to be able to have UPNP-Mediaserver for my music. It starts automatically on boot, but I don't want it to.
[19:19] <lenz> How exactly do I remove it from xinit?
[19:20] <Dr_willis> lenz,  if its managed by UPSTART it would have a whatever.conf file in /etc/init/
[19:20] <lenz> Ill check
[19:20] <Dr_willis> if its managed by SysV it would have some init scripts in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc.# i belive
[19:20] <CarlFK> jrib: this fails https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/blob/master/tools/setup/01-add-multiverse.sh  -  fail is bad ;)
[19:21] <OerHeks> treaverphoerig, if you have an USB keyboard/mouse, enable usb-support in your bios
[19:21] <treaverphoerig> It's all hardware connected to the laptop
[19:21] <lenz> It is in /init/, Dr_willis, should I just delete the file?
[19:21] <jrib> CarlFK: why does it need to enable multiverse though?  That should be something the admin does, no?  Or do you want this just for testing sake?
[19:21] <Dr_willis> lenz,  i suggest just  renameing it..
[19:22] <Dr_willis> lenz,  whatever.dontrun
[19:22] <Dr_willis> instead of whatever.conf
[19:23] <lenz> Thanks
[19:23] <lenz> mv command is fine I guess?
[19:23] <Dr_willis> sudo mv foo bar
[19:23] <Dr_willis> ;)
[19:24] <jrib> CarlFK: anyway, to me, it seems like you should just setup the testing environment to already have multiverse enabled.  If you can't do that, you could instead just copy a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that enables multiverse.  But I still find it strange this software to be doing this
[19:24] <jrib> ^for
[19:24] <lenz> Dr_willis I know about foobar but I don't get it
[19:24] <lenz> :D
[19:24] <lenz> Also, it's in init.d as well
[19:24] <DaVinciIT> hi all. Ubuntu 13.04. System is updated. Sometime system go at login page but video is 'confused'. is not possible see nothing. can you help me?
[19:26] <lenz> DaVinciIT, we need you log files.
[19:26] <DaVinciIT> lenz: where I can find it ?
[19:27] <lenz> DaVinciIT, 1. boot into a live disk 2. mount your hard drive 3. /etc/var/log/ should have your log files
[19:28] <lenz> post Xorg.log and dmesg.log on the forums
[19:28] <Dr_willis> DaVinciIT,  just sometimes? othertimes it works fine?
[19:29] <DaVinciIT> ok thank you
[19:29] <lenz> I was having serious graphics driver issues in 13.04 as well
[19:29] <lenz> now back in 12.04
[19:29] <tonsofpcs> trying to build an app on 13.04 that ./configure runs looking for qt3 (I think).  It errors that qt toolkit isn't found.  Suggestions?
[19:30] <ppcblaster> Where can I read how to install tarball driver with no readme or install file
[19:30] <lenz> it seems my Radeon HD 3430 Mobility is no longer supported in kernel 3.8
[19:31] <Dr_willis> tonsofpcs,  you are sure its qt3 ? kde is now using QT4 i thought.. any app using qt3 would be sort of old.
[19:31] <DaVinciIT> Dr_willis: I think it appears when the system is stressed. I'use WiFi, MonoDevelop, Opera Browser with many tabs opened.
[19:31] <johnjohn1011> lenz, dats not good.  I wonder what happened.  how old is that card?
[19:32] <tonsofpcs> Dr_willis: well, the compile instructions say to install the qt3 dev libs before building...
[19:32] <Dr_willis> DaVinciIT,  that was not how you described it.. You said it was messed up when you logged in.. how can you just login and have all those running..
[19:32] <lenz> johnjohn1011, I bought it off DELL in 2008
[19:33] <Dr_willis> tonsofpcs,  those might not even be in the repos any more. try an apt-cache search qt dev   and look for anything that looks like it may apply and install it perhaps
[19:33] <lenz> johnjohn1011, it's pity because I am really missing some of my favourite features that I had in 12.10
[19:34] <DaVinciIT> Dr_willis: sorry. I login, I work for a time, and sometimes, system go back at login page, and I cant do anything cause the image is fragmented.
[19:34] <lenz> DaVinciIT, what hardware to you use?
[19:35] <DaVinciIT> lenz:  SONY Vaio VPCF12E4E
[19:36] <DaVinciIT> Dr_willis: I hear the 'login' sound.
[19:37] <lenz> DaVinciIT it might be a problem with your vga controller
[19:37] <lenz> I had a similar problem in 13.04
[19:38] <lenz> DaVinciIT, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138392
[19:38] <Dr_willis> DaVinciIT,  i seem to recxall some quirks with X/login screen ages ago.. i had to enable the 'always restart X server' in the lightdm settings conf files.
[19:38] <Dr_willis> or go to the console and do a 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[19:38] <DaVinciIT> lenz: I'm on 13.04 too
[19:40] <DaVinciIT> well thank you very much.
[19:41] <shankstaBytes> does nautilus have some kind of cache?
[19:41] <shankstaBytes> for like sftp connections
[19:42] <Dr_willis> it uses the .gvfs subsystem for stuff like that i belive
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> shankstaBytes  look in ~/.cache
[19:42] <Dr_willis> what are you cacheing?
[19:42] <shankstaBytes> deosn't look like it
[19:42] <aet> hi i just tried to install ubuntu on a 2nd internal harddrive, i chose sda (hard drive with windows 7 as my bootloader), when it boots i get a black screen with a cursor... what did i do wrong?
[19:43] <shankstaBytes> im trying to connect via sftp but i get an unhandled exception
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | aet try this
[19:43] <shankstaBytes> i can login via ssh no problem
[19:44] <aet> monkeydust, wouldnt that have prevented it from working on my last install (yesterday)?
[19:44] <aet> same machine, just wanted a fresh install
[19:44] <chutney> has anyone here ever heard of a tool called "flup", which I guess is supposed to update formware on fujitsu harddrives
[19:44] <aet> though i think last time i installed from wubi
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> !find flup
[19:46] <daniel__1> My BIOS has a setting to change the memory alotted to the AGP card. I have a PCI Graphics card and I am wondering is there any way that I can use that alotted memory for the card in any way?
[19:47] <Dr_willis> daniel__1,  so you dont have an agp card.. but a PCI (or you mean pcie) video card?
[19:47] <daniel__1> I have a PCI card
[19:47] <chutney> python-flup has a similar name, but the description is of something different than a firmware updater
[19:47] <Dr_willis> if you are not using an agp card. i don t think that setting would matter.
[19:48] <Dr_willis> unless its refering to a built in video chipset on the mb.
[19:48] <daniel__1> I am wondering is I can use that memory for the PCI card. It is doing nothing now. I have a NVIDIA TNT2 M64
[19:48] <Dr_willis> I dont really see how its being alloted to a video card that you said dosent exist. you may want to askin #hardware
[19:49] <chutney> danial__1, if you mean you have a standard 32-bit pci card, the answer is no
[19:49] <Dr_willis> and i doubt if you can set the pci card to use the system memroy that way
[19:49] <daniel__1> Okay, thats all I need to know
[19:49] <chutney> if might be good to upgrade at least to a agp card though
[19:53] <Dr_willis> stuff gets that old.. its hard to justify putting in any more $$ in it. :) but i bet you can find some cheap used stuff around.
[19:54] <johnjohn1011> AGP card? is that still supported?
[19:55] <cyberpork> HELLO EVERYBODY!
[19:56] <giraffe> Welcome
[19:56] <cyberpork> anyone can help me? i'm looking for a package of spotify version 1:0.8.8.323.gd143501.250-1 because unfortunately i've upgrade it deleting the old one and the new app crashes ... :(
[19:57] <Dr_willis> johnjohn1011,  linux is good about keeping support for old hardware in... perhaps too good at times. ;)
[19:59] <giraffe> I like eucalyptus leaves
[19:59] <nobregadantas> Hello everyone
[19:59] <giraffe> I am downloading ubuntu
[19:59] <giraffe> right now
[20:00] <cp> giraffe: linuxMint?  :P~
[20:00] <giraffe> nah, 12.04.2-server
[20:00] <giraffe> problem?
[20:00] <cyberpork> anyone can help me? i'm looking for a package of spotify version 1:0.8.8.323.gd143501.250-1 because unfortunately i've upgrade it deleting the old one and the new app crashes ... :(
[20:00] <giraffe> stupid mirror is giving me 65KB
[20:01] <ctxmen> try WTF 4.5
[20:01] <giraffe> ugh mirror script to randomize mirrors has no geoloc ... giving me austraila when im in us
[20:02] <Dr_willis> ive seen days where that would be faster. ;)
[20:02] <Sb2115> I updated to 13.04 and now my system hangs at the Ubuntu screen during boot.
[20:02] <cp> cyberpork:   try http://www.getdeb.net/ or maybe pkgs.org
[20:03] <cyberpork> cp, it isn't :(
[20:07] <Bray90820> are the codes to play dvds installed on ubuntu 13.04
[20:07] <Dr_willis> Bray90820,  not by default./ No
[20:07] <thistony> hi all
[20:07] <cyberpork> plz anyone can help me?
[20:07] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[20:07] <thistony> cyberpork: whats the question
[20:08] <Bray90820> Dr_willis: what codes would i need to install
[20:08] <giraffe> berp
[20:08] <Bray90820> would they be at the link  ubottu sent
[20:08] <Dr_willis> Bray90820,  see the url the bot gave above.. its some package you install then a script you run
[20:08] <Bray90820> ok
[20:08] <Bray90820> then for some reason they were already installed for me
[20:09] <cyberpork> thistony,  i'm looking for a package of spotify version 1:0.8.8.323.gd143501.250-1 because unfortunately i've upgrade it deleting the old one and the new app on my pc crashes ... :(
[20:09] <cyberpork> thistony, also i've cleaned my apt-cache :(((
[20:09] <cp> cyberpork:   http://pkgs.org/opensuse-factory/packman-i586/spotify-installer-0.8.8.323.gd143501.250-5.3.noarch.rpm.html    maybe?
[20:09] <anass> hi i want to know how to install java
[20:10] <Dr_willis> !java | anass
[20:10] <jackw411> anybody managed to get guard-livereload working on ubuntu 12.04 LTS? I'm having problems
[20:10] <cyberpork> cp, it doesn't work for me it just download the latest version
[20:11] <cyberpork> :(
[20:11] <thistony> oh that changes things
[20:11] <anass> thank you
[20:11] <cp> cyberpork:    thus I keep all my .deb :), unfortunately, I don't use spotify :|
[20:12] <thistony> cyberpork: check this out. As always I recommend that you read the whole document...   http://code.google.com/p/spotcommander/wiki/DowngradeSpotify
[20:12] <cyberpork> cp,  thanks
[20:13] <cyberpork> thistony, oooooh! thanks man! it seems another version but i test it now!
[20:14] <thistony> cyberpork: make sure you follow all of the directions. If you do not you will end up with files that versions are different than other versions
[20:15] <cyberpork> thistony, yes i'm reading the instructions ;)
[20:15] <Sb2115> is there any kind of rescue utility on the 13.04 install DVD?
[20:15] <thistony> Anyone know how to make one netgear wireless router connect to another through wireless instead of the LAN port?
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Sb2115, Rescue of what?
[20:17] <Sb2115> wilee-nilee - I updated to 13.04 and now my system hangs on the Ubuntu splash screen and will not boot.  I was hoping for some kind of repair utility to help figure out what went wrong.
[20:17] <TuomasT> How do I search for a package using apt-get? I am looking for SDL devel package
[20:18] <Thorby>  /msg nickserv identify 1.2380
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> Sb2115, Not really one, did you try a nomodeset from grub?
[20:18] <ZynACK> TuomasT: apt-cache search
[20:18] <Thorby> nice
[20:18] <Dr_willis> Sb2115,  tried the text  mode options to  grub yet?
[20:18] <Dr_willis> !text | Sb2115
[20:18] <cyberpork> also i've a little problem with flash player, the audio is vanished from 1 month and i can't listen anysong on youtube or similar
[20:19] <thistony> TuomasT:  try apt-cache search {package-name}
[20:19] <TuomasT> ZynACK: Thanks
[20:19] <ZynACK> No problem.
[20:19] <Sb2115> I'm really new at this, but will take a look
[20:20] <thistony> this does not search the internet for packages though
[20:21] <Thorby> Hi all.  Where can I find a complete command reference for Ubuntu?  I just ran sudo iwconfig wlan2 power off, for example and it did work but I am wondering where I con consult the list of commands like this.
[20:21] <x13> hey for some reason my software center wont open can someone please walk me through fixing it I'm a newbie to Ubuntu.
[20:21] <sw> Thorby: $ man
[20:21] <thistony> cyberpork:  as for flash... uninstall flash player completely then reinstall the newext version.
[20:21] <Thorby> money?
[20:22] <Thorby> ohhh
[20:22] <Thorby> lol sorry
[20:22] <Thorby> lemme try that in terminal
[20:22] <FloodBot1> Thorby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <Thorby> Got "what manual page do you want"
[20:22] <thistony> Thorby:  google is your friend
[20:22] <cyberpork> thistony, i've already  do it  and i've cleaned the.macromedia folder but nothing changed
[20:23] <Thorby> thistony I did try google but couldn't get a complete reference, just a bunch of forums
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> Thorby, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandLineResources
[20:23] <thistony> cyberpork:  also you may have to clear your browsers cache as well
[20:24] <Thorby> wilee-nilee thanks that looks just about right
[20:24] <thistony> Thorby:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandLineResources
[20:24] <thistony> lol worry wilee-nilee
[20:24] <thistony> sorry*
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> lol
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> no biggie it s all giid
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> good*
[20:25] <thistony> lol
[20:29] <TuomasT> What protecton does Ubuntu package system have against FinFisher type attacks? (masquarade remote install of spyware by system/ popular application update)?
[20:30] <nibbler_> TuomasT: signed packages
[20:30] <mrHTTP> windows rulz
[20:31] <_Trullo> my ubuntu can't start a program, cannot allocate memory, how do I fix this?
[20:31] <mrHTTP> windows rulz
[20:31] <TuomasT> nibbler_: Where could I find more information about this?
[20:31] <tonsofpcs> Dr_willis: I found one of the issues is that qt4 changed the path structure, working on trying to get it to recognize now, running into 'incomplete installation' issues
[20:31] <TuomasT> i.e. how ubuntu package system works
[20:31] <nibbler_> mrHTTP: please 1) don't repeat, and 2) don't troll
[20:32] <mrHTTP> sorry
[20:32] <x13> my software center wont open can someone help please I'm a newbie and need to be walked through the process
[20:32] <nibbler_> TuomasT: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
[20:32] <mrHTTP> keyboard stuck
[20:32] <LjL> TuomasT: i'm not too familiar with this attack, but i thought i'd point out that if Canonical is cooperating with the attacker, then i really doubt any signing helps. not sure if this is your threat model
[20:32] <TuomasT> nibbler_: Also, I would think packages are signed in Windows / OS X too
[20:33] <Dr_willis> !apt
[20:33] <mrHTTP> is ubuntu the new mac?
[20:33] <nibbler_> TuomasT: well, but how do you install a piece of software in windows? you  download it from a random webpage - in ubuntu (most distros are similar in this point) you have a centrally managed repository, with maintainers  signing their packages, if you only use those, you shold be fine - as long as ubuntu does not get compromised
[20:33] <Dr_willis> mrHTTP,  you may want to ask non-support questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:34] <x13> my software center wont open can someone help please I'm a newbie and need to be walked through the process
[20:34] <TuomasT> nibbler_: I like the fact that packages are signed by individual maintainers and not some central authority
[20:35] <Dr_willis> x13,  try from a terminal,  'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'   let it do the various upates.  then try the software center again
[20:35] <thistony> in quagmire voice: "Oh God, trying to enable netgear rounters client bridge / repeater bridge mode is like trying to get 2 nuns naked"
[20:35] <nibbler_> TuomasT: i guess its more like central authority, but i'm no expert on that - if you keep with the official repo, and don't add closed source ones, you are as safe as you can be i guess
[20:36] <x13> Drwillis: tried that last night didn't work
[20:36] <nibbler_> TuomasT: and of course don't install anything from 3rd party sources (including firefox plugins etc)
[20:37] <nibbler_> x13: nopaste output of this process....
[20:37] <nibbler_> x13: or does it work well in the cli?
[20:37] <toprunner> ciao
[20:38] <x13> nibbler: I did it last night. Dont have the copy anymore. Software center simply wont open... not sure why. Tried updating adn upgrading to no avail
[20:38] <cyberpork> bye bye babbioni!
[20:39] <TuomasT> nibbler_: I'm thinking that with a distro the size of ubuntu and derivates, I'm sure there attacks especially for ubuntu packages, and of course since FinFisher is used by the authorities the package maintainers have to co-operate to allow such attacks.
[20:40] <TuomasT> Especially, if there is a single central package signing authority.
[20:40] <Dr_willis> 'have to' ?
[20:40] <nibbler_> TuomasT: i just don't think so. if any OS got cought doing that, it would be its end.
[20:40] <TuomasT> Dr_willis: By law
[20:40] <Dr_willis> whos law?
[20:40] <Dr_willis> sounds like somthing for another channel..since its not Ubuntu-support related
[20:41] <Daekdroom> Are there any ways to have folder bookmarks in GNOME-Files in 13.04?
[20:41] <Daekdroom> I lost mine after I did the upgrade
[20:41] <ChogyDan> is there a way to restart the upgrade process?  it crashed on me
[20:41] <x13> my software center wont open can someone help please I'm a newbie and need to be walked through the process
[20:42] <Dr_willis> x13,  try launching it from a terminal. look for error messages.. ive no idea what the command is to launch it from terminal is however..
[20:42] <Dr_willis> Im on lubuntu. so its not there fo rme
[20:42] <nibbler_> x13: as i asked you before: what is the result of the commands Dr_willis gave you? if it does not look 100% clean, please nopaste the output
[20:44] <trism> Daekdroom: hit the Gear/Bookmark this location when you are in the folder, also there is a File/Bookmarks menu in the panel that seems to show them all
[20:44] <Guest86782> Is pidgin already fixed in 13.04?
[20:44] <Dr_willis> cant you drag a folder to the left side pane in the file manager also for a bookmark thing.
[20:45] <GodsFlaw> still no luck I did the nomodeset but still get the blinking cursor.  Do I need a boot partition?
[20:45] <nibbler_> x13: also try to sudo /usr/bin/software-center and nopaste its output
[20:46] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[20:46] <nibbler_> GodsFlaw: you always need a boot partition.... i don't know what you tried already, but removing the bootoptions splash and quiet might help debugging
[20:46] <Dr_willis> !text
[20:46] <Dr_willis> text mode should show possible errors also
[20:47] <GodsFlaw> so when installing to a new disk you need root boot and swap?
[20:47] <nibbler_> oh nice, i'll remember this. noapic nolapic acpi=off lapic=off (some here are wrong/redundant) are good parameters too, if some hardware refuses to boot linux
[20:47] <GodsFlaw> (why does it let you install without boot?)
[20:47] <djQuery> dang I gotta get steam working again
[20:48] <nibbler_> GodsFlaw: root is enough, but you need a partition marked as boot partition. swap is optional but recommended, too
[20:48] <Silas_> Brand new owner of a System76 Pangolin Performance laptop. No audio, have tried everything I can think of and find online to fix / install the drivers. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[20:48] <auronandace> GodsFlaw: the only required partition is root
[20:48] <daek_> trism, thank you. Apparently the bookmarks were lost, so all I had to do was find out how to add them back.
[20:48] <GodsFlaw> marked as boot?
[20:48] <djQuery> steam keeps saying I am missing a bunch of 32bit libraries
[20:48] <djQuery> and low on disk space
[20:48] <nibbler_> GodsFlaw: like in the partition table - fdisk etc....
[20:49] <GodsFlaw> the installer does not make the root partition boot?
[20:49] <nibbler_> GodsFlaw: it does. just saying. you should not need to worry about that, sorry for the confusion.
[20:50] <Dr_willis> you do not 'need' a seperate /boot/ partition. except in a few cases..   / can work as your boot partition
[20:50] <GodsFlaw> kk
[20:50] <nibbler_> GodsFlaw: so do you get into the boot menu, grub? did you add "text" parameter to the kernel line?
[20:50] <GodsFlaw> any idea then why I get the blinking cursor.  Looks to me like ubuntu does not even get called.
[20:50] <GodsFlaw> I have tried installs on two disks.
[20:51] <GodsFlaw> I can start ubuntu from the usb
[20:51] <Dr_willis> GodsFlaw,  video card/chipset driver issues.
[20:51] <Dr_willis> GodsFlaw,  what is your video card? have you tried the nomodeset and text options yet to get to a console?
[20:51] <GodsFlaw> then why can I test ubuntu from usb?
[20:51] <Dr_willis> its using a differnt video driver would be my guess
[20:51] <Dr_willis> what IS your video chipset?
[20:52] <Silas_> Anyone have suggestions for the no audio in Ubuntu issue?
[20:52] <GodsFlaw> I did do nomodeset.  I loged into it useing usb and editid file.
[20:52] <GodsFlaw> asuse nividia
[20:52] <Dr_willis> Silas_,  over hdmi? or how exactly?
[20:52] <becnfecn> Anyone know how I can disable 3d effects in 13.04?
[20:52] <Dr_willis> GodsFlaw,  normally i boot to text mode, or do nomodeset to get into the system. then install the nvidia-current package to install my nvidia drivers
[20:52] <nibbler_> GodsFlaw: could you not access the boot menu, with the esc or shift key and edit it on the fly while booting for testing?
[20:53] <GodsFlaw> nope
[20:53] <Silas_> Dr_willis, complete lack of audio on brand new laptop. Tried the whole removing Pulse and reinstalling Alsa, but get nothing
[20:53] <ChogyDan> becnfecn: maybe ccsm
[20:53] <GodsFlaw> bios then blinking currsor.
[20:53] <GodsFlaw> looks like it is not finding os.
[20:53] <Dr_willis> Silas_,  'brand new' could be there might not  be proper drivers. or buggy drivers for that laptops audio chipset.
[20:54] <Dr_willis> GodsFlaw,  if you are not seeing Grub at all. you may want to use a live-cd and try the boot-repair tool mentioned at the following....
[20:54] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[20:54] <Guest86782> Is Pidgin already fixed in Ubuntu 13.04? (Notifications, Messaging Menu..)
[20:54] <GodsFlaw> does grub come on the install usb?
[20:55] <Dr_willis> !grub
[20:55] <djQuery> dang cant get video drive installed for nvidia gts450
[20:57] <TuomasT> When I install dev packages of say boost, do I still need to intsall the
[20:57] <TuomasT> non-dev package?
[20:57] <muelli> TuomasT: yes
[20:57] <ZynACK> Yes, the non-dev packages contain the actual compiled libraries.
[20:58] <Dr_willis> i thought if you installed foo-dev  it depended on the foo packages anyway. so should install those as well
[20:58] <TuomasT> There is some work hunting down both versions, would be easier to install just a package with option (obtain also dev)
[20:59] <TuomasT> Well, unless all of boost is packaged by the distro, then I don't see it installing any non-dev packages
[20:59] <ZynACK> I've been able to do things like 'apt-get install pygame-*' in the past to get all the pygame stuff I might have needed (such as mixer, image, dev, ...)
[21:00] <becnfecn> becnfecn: ccms?
[21:00] <becnfecn> er ccsm?
[21:00] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[21:02] <xtacie> Im running 12.04 and using iptables.. i just installed weechat and used /connect irc.freenode.net and it translates name to ip and says connecting but gets stuck. do i have to add something to iptables to allow outbound tcp 6667??
[21:03] <Dr_willis> xtacie,  it would depend on what firewall rules you have enabled
[21:03] <Guest23775> screen -RaAd irssi irssi
[21:03] <Guest23775> exit
[21:04] <xtacie> Dr: i just dropped every iptable entry.. fresh
[21:20] <jordan4ibanez> How do I reverse the stereo audio channels?
[21:20] <jordan4ibanez> 13.04, ubuntu.
[21:20] <shwouchk> Hello
[21:20] <cp> allo shwouchk
[21:21] <becnfecn> Anyone at all know how I can turn off all 3d effects in 13.04?
[21:21] <shwouchk> After updating to 13.04 my lukfs unencryption splash screen stopped appearing. I can still get in by "blindly" typing the password, but would like to regain either the splash or a text screen. help?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> the new unity is supposed to disable 3d effects if it tells the card cant handle them. theres no unity 2d in 12.10+
[21:22] <lee_> can anyone tell me why after I install Qt SDK on ubuntu 13.04 a simple application fails to compile "cannot find -lGL"
[21:22] <becnfecn> hrm
[21:22] <lee_> I know it means missing a library file, but which library do I download?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> becnfecn, sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool probably to tweak it
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/287445/how-to-disable-windows-effects-in-13-04
[21:25] <lee_> can anyone tell me why after I install Qt SDK on ubuntu 13.04 a simple application fails to compile "cannot find -lGL" which library do i need?
[21:25] <becnfecn> wilee-nilee: already got it
[21:25] <becnfecn> wilee-nilee: just wanna say '2d please' i'm running it in parallels ruing to lower the load
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> becnfecn, I believe there is no 2d, I forget when it was removed, another desktop might be easier, like lubuntu.
[21:27] <Dr_willis> there is no longer a unity2d - if you are running in a VM. you may want to use lubuntu since it will be the lightest on resources
[21:27] <Dr_willis> or use the older ubuntu that still has unity2d
[21:27] <Dr_willis> lubuntu runs well for me in vbox
[21:32] <Skateboard> d
[21:33] <Skateboard> houseskateboard.blogspot.com.br
[21:36] <uvala> I have this question; when I have two systems installed on a pc, and run one of the systems, I can access the home folder of the other. how secure is this? suppose I accidentally downloaded some nasty file from the net, can this file access the other OS, or all OSes on the machine?
[21:36] <uvala> nasty file meaning some virus
[21:37] <shwouchk> anyone?
[21:37] <ZynACK> uvala, If a virus was targetting some directory on your windows partition, it'd have a hard time finding it through the Linux file system.
[21:38] <uvala> ZynACK, here is no Windows involved. all OSes on the machine are Linux, or Ubuntu, to be more precise.
[21:38] <Aurora> You could setup chroot's so they are 'jailed' into that directory.
[21:38] <ZynACK> In that case, I suppose it's possible for a virus to find and infect files on different partitions. I could be wrong, though. Never had a virus in Linux.
[21:39] <uvala> Aurora, chroot seems to make sense.
[21:39] <ms42145245> I'm getting an error when trying to format a black dvd
[21:39] <ms42145245> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), blank unit scsi sendcmd: no error CDB:  A1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)  cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 9600s wodim: Cannot blank disk, aborting.
[21:39] <Dr_willis> why are you formating a DVD?
[21:40] <Aurora> Yeah, I have chroot's setup on my server and that is what I use to seperate our apache server from our game servers. It's the safest way from what I've seen.
[21:40] <Dr_willis> you mean blank a DVD+RW (erase it?)
[21:40] <ms42145245> Because even though it says it's empty, it has a title and won't work when I try to burn it.
[21:40] <ms42145245> no, it's dvd+r
[21:40] <Aurora> It would work just the same on a userbase linux.
[21:41] <Dr_willis> ms42145245,  and what app are you trying to use on this dvd?
[21:41] <ms42145245> I'm using terminal.
[21:41] <Dr_willis> and using WHAT commands?
[21:41] <ms42145245> Sorry about that. I'm back
[21:42] <ms42145245> Should I explain it again?
[21:43] <uvala> Aurora, I guess I mixed it up with chmod. I am not really informed on chroot; before causing anything messy, is it possible to give a simple example of the command line to set permission i.e. for the home folder?
[21:43] <gridwest> Is there a cad utility available for GNU/Linux Ubuntu that will allow me to...1. view .dwg OrCad files   2. convert .dwg files to gerber format
[21:43] <ms42145245> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), blank unit scsi sendcmd: no error CDB:  A1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)  cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 9600s wodim: Cannot blank disk, aborting.
[21:44] <ascidia002> whats going on ubuntu
[21:44] <uvala> gridwest, there is a gerbv gerber file viewer, but I dont know if it converts files.
[21:44] <ascidia002> i have a question
[21:44] <Aurora> uvala, this is a very basic video tutorial I followed and it worked for what I needed it to do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTyY3in5r6Q
[21:44] <ascidia002> is bad sectors on a hard drive permanent damage sometimes physical damage
[21:45] <compdoc> ascidia002, are you looking at the SMART info?
[21:45] <Aurora> ascidia002, it can be, however it is rare from my experiences.
[21:46] <uvala> Aurora, great, thank you so much, I'll watch it!
[21:46] <Aurora> np
[21:46] <ascidia002> yes compdoc
[21:46] <compdoc> ascidia002, does it show reallocated sectors or pending sectors?
[21:46] <Dr_willis> I dont think you 'blank' optical disks - unless you are eraseing a RW disk.
[21:46] <ascidia002> im using puppy dog linux its the only thing i could get running on a live cd with hard drive bad sectors
[21:47] <compdoc> ascidia002, the data in the RAW column
[21:47] <ascidia002> sorry to mention puppy in here
[21:47] <ascidia002> well i checked in windows too it has bad sectors and it said disk failure is imminent
[21:47] <compdoc> cant just answer the questions?
[21:48] <ascidia002> well i cant answer it cuz im using puppy dog linux and i dont know how to check for that
[21:48] <ascidia002> its a small live os
[21:48] <Aurora> In that case I would say it is more than likely physical damage.
[21:48] <ascidia002> im buying a new drive just wanted to know
[21:48] <Aurora> Yeah, that is probably your best bet.
[21:48] <ascidia002> thx
[21:49] <Aurora> np
[21:49] <ascidia002> im on a dell inspiron 1501 going to get a 160 gb hd off ebay for 33.25 with a 5 year warranty
[21:49] <ascidia002> laptop that is
[21:49] <Dr_willis> seen 120gb SSD's in the $100 range and less on sale the other day. ;)
[21:50] <ascidia002> kewl
[21:50] <Dr_willis> may be cheaper now. that was a month or 3 ago.
[21:51] <Aurora> Wow, I need a couple of those lol.
[21:52] <chocolatedonuts> Hi #ubuntu. I just got an inexpensive Dell inspiron laptop, and I've been trying to follow the instructions here: (http://nwoki.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/multitouch-fix-for-alps-touchpad/) for setting up the touchpad to, um, actually function properly. Everything goes fine until I do dkms autoinstall, at which point it starts and then breaks with an error "Import error: No module named apport". Is there anything I can do? Google's not helping much.
[21:55] <chocolatedonuts> ): I just want to multi-touch scroll
[22:01] <chocolatedonuts> I just got an inexpensive Dell inspiron laptop, and I've been trying to follow the instructions here: (http://nwoki.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/multitouch-fix-for-alps-touchpad/) for setting up the touchpad to, um, actually function properly. Everything goes fine until I do dkms autoinstall, at which point it starts and then breaks with an error "Import error: No module named apport". Is there anything I can do? Google's not helping much.
[22:02] <lolbat> Why is it impossible to install the ati drivers on ubuntu?
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> !ati | lolbat start here
[22:03] <bjensen> um why is it that when I create a ssh pair with ssh-keygen -t rsa with no passphrase. However when I do a ssh -T git@github.com im prompted for a pw for it..but I didnt set any (!)
[22:07] <lolbat> MonkeyDust: doesnt work
[22:07] <lolbat> I get that simple graphics mode crap
[22:10] <g0th> hi
[22:10] <al__> hi
[22:10] <lolbat> hi
[22:10] <g0th> is it possible to run java web applet through a proxy?
[22:10] <lolbat> How do I make ubuntu not use the simple graphics mode?
[22:10] <g0th> it won't let me connect from my current ip
[22:10] <al__> restart X
[22:10] <trism> bjensen: might try with -v to see which key is offered
[22:11] <al__> you probably have issues with dbus
[22:12] <lolbat> apt-get remove dbus?
[22:12] <lolbat> al__: Didnt work
[22:12] <al__> no don't remove service dbus stop then start
[22:13] <lolbat> al__: I stopped dbus
[22:13] <lolbat> now my desktop is like three times as awesome
[22:13] <lolbat> al__: dO I need dbus?
[22:13] <kostkon> lolbat, very much so.
[22:13] <al__> yes it's an interface into your hardware how ubuntu talks to hardware
[22:14] <lolbat> al__: I dont notice any diffrence
[22:14] <Dr_willis> you did reboot after installing the drivers?
[22:14] <lolbat> Dr_willis: yes
[22:14] <lolbat> Dr_willis: it frooze on shutdonw, and booted into simple graphics mode
[22:14] <Dr_willis> hit it with a hammer ;)
[22:14] <lolbat> I want to hit the 13.04 developer with a hammer
[22:14] <lolbat> why didnt they fix this?
[22:15] <al__> you may not but it should be the modern interface for talking to hardware instead of userspace
[22:15] <Dr_willis> i imagine ati is as much to blame.
[22:15] <lolbat> Dr_willis: it worked in 12.10
[22:15] <gridwest> @uvala thanks
[22:15] <Dr_willis> new kernel. new drivers,  ati may have removed support.. hard to tell
[22:16] <Dr_willis> i got one ati video system here.. so i dont keep up with ati any more
[22:16] <gridwest> Is there a linux application that will allow one to view .brd files?
[22:16] <Dr_willis> gridwest,  and whats a .brd file?
[22:16] <evilytwisted> has any of you played wow on ubuntu? or any blizzard games
[22:16] <chocolatedonuts> so from a little code diving it looks like the problem is that the dkms python file calls 'import apport'
[22:16] <Dr_willis> evilytwisted,  WoW can work in wine.
[22:16] <chocolatedonuts> and it's yelling that no such module exists
[22:16] <lolbat> http://pastebin.ca/2374433
[22:16] <chocolatedonuts> Not sure what I can do about that
[22:16] <lolbat> Does that look good?
[22:16] <evilytwisted> Dr_willis: i know it can.. reason why im asking .. i was playing it without a problem earlier.. till i got this error http://oi42.tinypic.com/1zpodx4.jpg
[22:17] <evilytwisted> would you know how to fix it?
[22:17] <chocolatedonuts> I just got an inexpensive Dell inspiron laptop, and I've been trying to follow the instructions here: (http://nwoki.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/multitouch-fix-for-alps-touchpad/) for setting up the touchpad to, um, actually function properly. Everything goes fine until I do dkms autoinstall, at which point it starts and then breaks with an error "Import error: No module named apport". Is there anything I can do? Google's not helping much.
[22:17] <Dr_willis> evilytwisted, id have to say - ask in #winehq
[22:17] <evilytwisted> IM asking them.. there not answering.
[22:17] <Dr_willis> theres the wine app database also
[22:17] <Dr_willis> and forums
[22:18] <gridwest> Dr_willis, give me a few mins
[22:20] <gridwest> Dr_willis, a .brd is a Printed Circuit Board or (PCB) layout file
[22:20] <Dr_willis> done an apt-cache search pcb       yet?
[22:20] <gridwest> No, I will try it
[22:22] <fffree> If anybody has a good recommendation for a new laptop that will work well with ubuntu around the £350-450 zone, I'd be happy to hear your suggestions... The EeePC just died on me. :-/
[22:22] <johnjohn1011> what is version of the catalyst driver on ubuntu 313.04?
[22:23] <gridwest> thanks Dr_willis, that gives me a lead to work from
[22:23] <Enders_> hey guys im trying to get samba set up and I'm having problems with permissions. I have the top level directory set up fine, users can write to it but another user can't read the files because they retain the user permissions. Is there a proper way to deal with that situation? before I copy paste a random script i found on the net to change permissions automatically when files are coppied to a directory...
[22:23] <kostkon> chocolatedonuts, apport is ubuntu's bug reporting system. make sure that python-apport is already installed
[22:24] <gridwest> it looks like there are a few options
[22:24] <xtacie> i keep getting stuck doing install of irssi. i guess the server isnt responding???
[22:24] <xtacie> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[22:24] <xtacie> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]
[22:24] <James_Epp> Which one should I believe and why is there such a huge difference? http://goo.gl/5C2TP
[22:25] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: Aha, thanks. I didn't realize it had a python-specific package. Lemme try that.
[22:25] <F41L> Hey, I'm unable to have the setting of the unity bar's autohide reveal sensitivity to save. It continues to drop back to default, which makes it entirely too hard to unhide the unity bar with a touchpad. Any ideas?
[22:26] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: alright, now it's exiting with 'binary package for psmouse: alps-1.3 not found'
[22:27] <kostkon> chocolatedonuts, hmm
[22:27] <James_Epp> F41L: I appear to be having the same result. No clue why :S
[22:28] <James_Epp> F41L: If I set mine, it keeps the setting, but nothing changes. I have a dual screen, what of you?
[22:28] <sayz> hello everyone
[22:28] <James_Epp> greetings ^.^
[22:29] <rag3> how do i compile/make 32 bit source in 64 bit system? i encounter file class ELFCLASS32 incompatible with ELFCLASS64
[22:33] <kostkon> chocolatedonuts, did you follow the instructions correctly. it seems that the line dkms add psmouse/alps-dst-0.x is wrong and you should be calling it like this:  dkms add psmouse-alps-dst-0.x
[22:33] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: I'll try that, and see if that changes anything
[22:35] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: it's throwing an error for invalid number of arguments passed, and says Usage: add <module>/<module-version>
[22:35] <kostkon> oh ok
[22:36] <Muny> Hi
[22:36] <Muny> Anyone here experienced with netcat?
[22:37] <kostkon> chocolatedonuts, are you giving the correct version to it, e.g. dkms add psmouse/alps-dst-0.4 ?
[22:38] <rtn> Hi I'm installing ubuntu 12.04 along side windows 7 though on 2 separate hard drives, so what device to i choose for bootloader installation?
[22:39] <Muny> Any reason for installing an older version?
[22:39] <rtn> umm its the LTS one
[22:39] <kostkon> Muny, 12.04 is lts
[22:39] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: I think so. The one that I downloaded (and appears to be most up to date, from the comments) is 1.3, so I gave it sudo dkms add psmouse-alps-1.3
[22:40] <HenryTrollins> hi, can anyone recommend an OSS alternative for adobe encore? i want to author dvd menus and flowchart dvd strutuctures
[22:41] <Dr_willis> I tend to just use DeVeDe for my simple dvd video disk making needs
[22:41] <F41L> James_Epp: No, single screen (laptop)
[22:42] <HenryTrollins> Dr_willis: i'll check it out, thanks
[22:42] <Dr_willis> rtn,  you can put grub on the linux hd.. and set the bios to boot that hd. that way the windows HD will remain untouched
[22:42] <Dr_willis> HenryTrollins,  theres bound to be more advanced tools in the repos. i just dont use them
[22:43] <rtn> Dr_willis and then i set my primary boot HD to the linux one and grub will give an option to boot to win 7?
[22:43] <kostkon> chocolatedonuts, when you unzipped it, did you remember to rename the folder psmouse-alps-1.3-alt to psmouse-alps-1.3
[22:43] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: Lemme see about that
[22:43] <Dr_willis> rtn,  yes. it scans the system and has a menu for eveyr os
[22:44] <HenryTrollins> Dr_willis: yeah, i've been googling around as well
[22:44] <chocolatedonuts> kostkon: Yeah, the folder's psmouse-alps-1.3
[22:44] <rtn> ok and just to be clear i put it on /sdb not /sdb1 right
[22:44] <Dr_willis> grub goes on the drive. :) not a partion.. so sdb  not sdb1
[22:45] <rtn> side note, i was reading about how swap space isnt necessary on systems with lots of memory, i have 12gb is the swap necessary?
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> rtn, To hibernate you want a swap equal to ram is all.
[22:46] <Dr_willis> or ram+ a little bit more.
[22:46] <rtn> ok thanks guys
[22:48] <master_op> what is the right sources.list line to install xcp-xapi in ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
[22:48] <master_op> thanks in advance
[22:49] <HenryTrollins> alright i found dvdauthor
[22:49] <HenryTrollins> that'll do
[22:49] <OerHeks> !info xcp-xapi
[22:51] <master_op> i don't understand what you mean OerHeks
[22:51] <OerHeks> master_o1_master, no need to ad sources, it is available
[22:51] <OerHeks> *add
[22:52] <master_op> after doing apt-get update ; apt-get install xcp-xapi i got this error : unable to locate package : xcp-xapi
[22:52] <moez> slt
[22:53] <master_op> thank you all, a stupid mistake : XCP-api instead of xcp-api
[22:53] <OerHeks> oh, capture :-(
[22:54] <johnjohn1011> that was it?
[23:00] <bazzer> silly question but when installing via preseed and using apt-cacher-ng how does one make the clients NOT reference the apt-cacher-ng in /etc/apt/sources.list after the install is done?
[23:01] <otend> where can I disable the ctrl-q key combination to close applications?
[23:03] <rtn> Dr_willis ok did what you said, but now my bios wont recognize the drive with linux as a boot option
[23:04] <chocolatedonuts> Hm
[23:06] <rtn> and when i force boot with this drive i get a black screen and blinking cursor
[23:06] <deijwel> t
[23:07] <Lenovo> hi
[23:07] <Lenovo> anyone can help me with php?
[23:09] <rtn> Lenovo whats your problem
[23:10] <Lenovo> rtn:  its okey if i ask by pivate message ?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | rtn
[23:11] <Lenovo> well i can ask here any way, doesn't mattter
[23:11] <rtn> yea
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> rtn, YOU can text boot as well to see if there are any problems.
[23:11] <Lenovo> i have a php code that is to add questions and answers in order to make a poll
[23:12] <Lenovo> so my problem is how to read all the inputs that are going to be a lot of them
[23:12] <Lenovo> to add them to mysql
[23:12] <chocolatedonuts> I just got an inexpensive Dell inspiron laptop, and I've been trying to follow the instructions here: (http://nwoki.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/multitouch-fix-for-alps-touchpad/) for setting up the touchpad to, um, actually function properly. Everything goes fine until I do dkms autoinstall, at which point it starts and then it breaks with an error: "binary package for psmouse: alps-1.3 not found". Is there anything I can do? Google's not helping much.
[23:12] <rtn> wilee-nilee how to do that?
[23:12] <Lenovo> in a specific way
[23:12] <Lenovo>  i show you the code for a better comprension of the problem?
[23:13] <master_op> good night
[23:13] <rtn> lenovo, you just dont know how, or you have an error or something?
[23:13] <rtn> also #php might be a better place to ask than #ubuntu :-P
[23:13] <Lenovo> i do know how for a bounch of inputs, but the problem is how to do the same for a second bounch of inputs (question / answers)
[23:14] <Lenovo> i dont know how to parse the data with a while or so
[23:14] <Lenovo> i just dont find the way to solve the problem
[23:14] <rtn> foreach ($_POST as $input)
[23:15] <rtn> loop through the $_POST or $_GET array just like its any other array
[23:15] <Lenovo> yeah the problem is each post must be processed ina diferent way
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> rtn, How to do what?
[23:15] <rtn> remember its associative so ($_POST as $key => $value) also appropriate
[23:15] <rtn> wilee-nilee boot in text mode
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> !text | rtn
[23:16] <rtn> oh im not getting any menu where I can type commands
[23:16] <rtn> so that doesnt apply to me
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> rtn, I would try the nomodeset option, you may just need graphic drivers.
[23:17] <rtn> ironically i had this working yesterday and i think i chose the win7 loader partition as my boot loader device and everything was working wonderfully
[23:17] <Ghost_562> ello kiddies
[23:18] <Lenovo> how to read just the post with a specific names? like  q1,q2,q3,q4.... q*
[23:18] <Lenovo> i want read just the question post's
[23:18] <Fr0z3N_Shadow> hello folks
[23:18] <chocolatedonuts> Fr0z3N_Shadow: Hi
[23:19] <rtn> lenovo pastebin your code or something
[23:19] <Fr0z3N_Shadow> I got some problems to connect to IRC srvrs Using VPN :( lol
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> rtn, If grub has not seen W7 it will not show without the shift key at powering on.
[23:21] <rtn> k tried booting holding shift, nothing happens still black screen with cursor
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> rtn, Easiest way to look at this is with the bootinfo summary in the bootrepair tool being run, post the url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  Also please use nicks. ;)
[23:25] <aaas> i want to record a live stream every week ( a schedule), anyone got any good all-in-one solutions so I don't have to make some cron,ffmpeg/mplayer script?
[23:29] <Ghost_562> chat seems slow today eh>
[23:29] <Ghost_562> eh?*
[23:30] <rtn> wilee-nilee i think my problem isnt with the graphics its with grub
[23:30] <rtn> or just something at boot
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> rtn, Okay you want us to guess then?
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> seems possessed, get an exorcist. ;)
[23:32] <funky> hey guys whats the easiest way to put tons of simple commands in one file so when I run it all commands are executed?
[23:32] <rtn> anybody's guess is better than mine haha
[23:32] <funky> cool
[23:32] <funky> :)
[23:33] <Dr_willis> funky,  thats just a simple script
[23:33] <tonsofpcs> anyone know of a ppa or package that I can use to get qt3 , qt3-dev, libqt3-* on 13.04?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> !abs
[23:33] <rtn> i'll reinstall and try the win7 loader as my boot loading device again
[23:33] <tonsofpcs> did not know, cool abs :)
[23:33] <tonsofpcs> did not know, cool abs :)
[23:33] <^Pangolin^> hola
[23:33] <Dr_willis> funky,  first line #!/bin/bash    then one command per line after that.
[23:33] <tonsofpcs> bonjour
[23:33] <shankstaBytes> when will launchpad have ppas setup for 13.04?
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> rtn, The bootinfo script goes a long way past guessing.
[23:33] <rtn> but how can i use it without getting into linux?
[23:34] <rtn> my ubuntu won't boot after all
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> rtn, W7 wont boot ubuntu unless it is a wubi, esaybcd will though, but it has to be bootable basically.
[23:35] <shankstaBytes> https://launchpad.net/~pcf/+archive/miro-releases
[23:35] <shankstaBytes> this is what im talking about
[23:35] <shankstaBytes> i want the new miro
[23:35] <shankstaBytes> but it doesn't work with 13.04
[23:35] <rtn> wilee-nilee last time thats what i chose and it gave me the grub menu at boot
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> rtn, This a install of ubuntu from windows?
[23:36] <rtn> no, install from cd on a separate hdd than windows
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> uefi?
[23:36] <rtn> yes the mobo is uefi
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> rtn, Ah did you mention that at all in any of your posts?
[23:37] <rtn> i didnt know it was relevant
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | rtn heavily relevant
[23:37] <airtonix_> rtn: everything is relevant... every...thing
[23:38] <Ghost_562> .
[23:38]  * airtonix_ whispers: everything
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> speak up sonny
[23:40] <shankstaBytes> i hate uefi
[23:41] <chocolatedonuts> I just got an inexpensive Dell inspiron laptop, and I've been trying to follow the instructions here: (http://nwoki.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/multitouch-fix-for-alps-touchpad/) for setting up the touchpad to, um, actually function properly. Everything goes fine until I do dkms autoinstall, at which point it starts and then it breaks with an error: "binary package for psmouse: alps-1.3 not found". Is there anything I can do? Google's not helping much.
[23:41] <shankstaBytes> chocolatedonuts: have you looked for a newer version of that package?
[23:42] <shankstaBytes> apt-cache search <package-name>
[23:48] <hemangpatel> I want to try ubuntu but do i install non-lts or lts ?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> hemangpatel, Decide from trying it out for yourself, lts just means longer support.
[23:49] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee : which type of support ?
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> !support
[23:50] <chocolatedonuts> shankstabytes: The package isn't in the repos
[23:50] <chocolatedonuts> But without it the mousepad isn't registering properly
[23:50] <Ghost_562> !lts
[23:51] <Ghost_562> i think thats what you meant.
[23:51] <lez> Hi. I want to mod my boot image with Grub2 but I cant paste a .tga file into the Files System why? Thanks.
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> lez, here is one grub manual. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[23:52] <lez> wilee-nilee, Thanks Ill have a look!
[23:54] <lez> wilee-nilee, And how can I access my Boot folder to paste a file.
[23:54] <hemangpatel> Yes, I know full form. But, Which type of support ? Any example ?
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> lez, I have not messed with images in grub, so I can only read it like you. There is an old grub images thread at the ubuntu forum that might have some info.
[23:56] <Dr_willis> lez,  you have to modify system dirs with root rights via sudo.
[23:56] <lez> wilee-nilee, I have installed Grub 2 GUI so its real easy to mod but I just need to get to the file in the boot folder or other system folder!
[23:56] <Dr_willis> sudo cp file /boot/whatever/
[23:57] <lez> Dr_willis, Ill try thanks
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> hemangpatel, Like any other OS purveyor whether MS..etc there is an end of life that means you will not get standard support from repos or these channels or forums unless someone feels sorry for you.
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> !eol | hemangpatel
[23:58] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee: hmm.. I'm downloading 13.04 64 bit :)
[23:58] <hemangpatel> For my new laptop
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> hemangpatel, This a W8 loaded laptop?
[23:59] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee : yes
[23:59] <hemangpatel> why ?
[23:59] <hemangpatel> i want dual boot
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | hemangpatel YOu want to aware of this.