| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1119312] Desktop Effects keyboard shortcuts not saved @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119312 (by lordievader) | 00:43 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: krfb works here. It didn't work the first time I launched it, but it did the second. No idea why. | 02:50 |
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| ahoneybun | hey people! | 03:45 |
| ahoneybun | hey ScottK | 03:57 |
| ahoneybun | hey valorie | 04:12 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: here now | 04:49 |
| soee | good morning | 06:27 |
| Riddell | "Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay Mamarok still loves us! | 08:22 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Meh if Mamarok isn't I will be O-mouthed | 08:23 |
| smartboyhw_ | BTW, how is KDE SC 4.10.3 doing? | 08:24 |
| Riddell | see for yourself http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.3_raring.html | 08:26 |
| smartboyhw_ | Meh no one fixed it? | 08:26 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: what a silly assumption I would not still like you :) | 08:27 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Anyone abandoned their membership in the past 12 months? | 08:29 |
| Mamarok | I use Kubuntu since its very existence, why would I abandon it? | 08:30 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: You will not for sure. | 08:31 |
| Riddell | what small bugs shall we get agateau to fix? | 08:33 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: kactivities 4.10.3 | 08:34 |
| smartboyhw_ | It's crapped when cmaking | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ur such a stalker :P | 08:37 |
| smartboyhw_ | apachelogger: lol | 08:38 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: hmm, how does one update the package in ninjas again :S | 10:17 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: huh? | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: nvm :P | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | did not have enough coffee and TT | 10:39 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: kactivities is crapped because nepomuk-core needs an update | 10:39 |
| yofel | :D | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | n-c is fixed | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | just uploaded it | 10:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:16 |
| smartboyhw | Hello BluesKaj | 11:16 |
| BluesKaj | hi smartboyhw | 11:16 |
| Riddell | + ) + i18n("<p>Kubuntu includes additions and alterations to the KDE translation from <a href=\"https://translations.launchpad.net/\">Launchpad</a>.</p>"); | 12:07 |
| Riddell | do we still need this? | 12:07 |
| Riddell | harald say no | 12:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: What happened to you with krfb? I made it work. | 12:53 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I really don't know | 13:34 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I made it work connecting to me, it just didn't connect from the withsupport office | 13:34 |
| ScottK | What VNC client where they using? | 13:35 |
| Riddell | it was connecting from an ubuntu machine so maybe there's something there | 13:35 |
| Riddell | but I've not looked any further than that | 13:35 |
| Riddell | maybe they were just doing something stupid | 13:35 |
| ScottK | I'd ask them what VNC client they were using as it seems to work with krdc. | 13:35 |
| smartboyhw_ | apachelogger: Good guidelines | 13:54 |
| Riddell | kde telepathy's notification systray icon, should it blink? | 14:11 |
| yofel | IIRC there should be a seperate blinking envelope when you get a message | 14:12 |
| Riddell | yes that's what there is | 14:13 |
| Riddell | but should there be? from a nice design perspective | 14:13 |
| Riddell | I think it's annoying to have a blinking thing | 14:13 |
| yofel | I think that's very much personal preference. Most IM applications have some blinking thing for new messages | 14:14 |
| yofel | be it the application icon or something else | 14:14 |
| yofel | it could be redundant if you consider knotify to be responsible for that | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | Martin says it's very heavy on kwin | 14:16 |
| yofel | because it's an animation? rendering some 16x16 px shouldn't be that heavy... | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | I believe he said something about blur | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | I forget | 14:17 |
| yofel | oh, blur can be heavy, right | 14:17 |
| yofel | I personally could live without it - *IF* I could make the knotify icon red when something's up | 14:18 |
| yofel | I don't notice a small grey icon on a grey panel with a number on it unless I'm actually there when the full notification pops up | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: turns out the entire panel is redrawn if the hardware doesn't support caching | 14:26 |
| yofel | ouch | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: ? | 14:27 |
| yofel | ok, mine supports caching if I can trust the "show paint" effect | 14:27 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: <shadeslayer> yofel: turns out the entire panel is redrawn if the hardware doesn't support caching | 14:27 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: Eh | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | smartboyhw: <yofel> smartboyhw: <shadeslayer> yofel: turns out the entire panel is redrawn if the hardware doesn't support caching | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger: You quoted too many people | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | I thought we were playing a game | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger: … No we are not. | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | :O | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger: lol | 14:59 |
| * Riddell spots https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-webkit-maintenance | 16:07 | |
| ScottK | Seems rather incomplete. | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | Darkwing: yofel: shadeslayer: there are 2 pending questions on the mailing list for you guys.... | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | I have half a reply in my draft | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | that does not help me now does it :P | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | I am sleepy | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | coffee didn't help | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | cry me a river | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Barcelona has no river | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | that's why you are supposed to cry me one..... | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think it works that way | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | it is | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | trust me | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | I am austrian. | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | and that's exactly why I don't trust you | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | 4.10.3 packages are just weird on the status page | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | E: libkwineffects1abi4: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN4KWin15AnimationEffect25disconnectGeometryChangesEv@ABI_1_4 | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | I don't see the debian revision in there | 16:49 |
| debfx | look into the log file | 16:52 |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: re okular (again): I tried to change the ABI version, but the build still produces usr/lib/libokularcore.so.2abi1 | 17:05 |
| mitya57 | should I have a libokularcore2abi2 package providing a .so.2abi1 library? | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | uh no | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 17:07 |
| mitya57 | (detais are in bug 117943 I've filed today) | 17:08 |
| ubottu | bug 117943 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-session should depend on dbus-x11" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117943 | 17:08 |
| mitya57 | *details | 17:08 |
| mitya57 | *bug 1176943 | 17:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1176943 in okular (Ubuntu) "okular FTBFS with gcc 4.8" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176943 | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ? | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: X-Debian-ABI: 1 | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | ur such a troll | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: you need to bump that | 17:12 |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: ah thanks, didn't notice that | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | np | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | someone please make sure albert is ok with the bump | 17:13 |
| mitya57 | pushed to lp:~mitya57/kubuntu-packaging/okular, will submit a mp if/when it builds | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^ | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^^^^^ | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^^^^ | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | did anyone do that? | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | do what | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | <apachelogger> someone please make sure albert is ok with the [abi] bump | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: ^^ | 17:17 |
| mitya57 | tsdgeos is not here | 17:18 |
| mitya57 | will subscribe him to the bug | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | #okular | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | awesome thanks | 17:18 |
| mitya57 | s/the bug/the merge proposal/g, that'll make more sense | 17:20 |
| kubotu | mitya57 meant: "will subscribe him to the merge proposal" | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: btw please discuss with upstream before uploading anything | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | just to make sure they're OK with it | 17:25 |
| * mitya57 thinks discussing with tsdgeos will be enough | 17:26 | |
| Riddell | they're private symbols | 17:27 |
| Riddell | that's not an abi change | 17:27 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 17:27 |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: ^^ | 17:29 |
| Riddell | mitya57: they're all private symbols, it's fine for gcc to optimise them away | 17:34 |
| Riddell | no abi change | 17:34 |
| mitya57 | OK, actually I thought about that but was not sure enough | 17:34 |
| mitya57 | can one of you then pull ~mitya57/kubuntu-packaging/okular into the main branch? I've undone the package name change | 17:36 |
| Riddell | mitya57: let me look | 17:38 |
| mitya57 | wait a second, I'll add a bug reference | 17:38 |
| mitya57 | done | 17:38 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) | 17:39 |
| Riddell | mitya57: that still does the abi change, it's not necessary | 17:40 |
| Riddell | mitya57: ah no it's all good | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | yofel: piiiiing | 17:44 |
| yofel | apachelogger: reserved pong | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | yofel: if I upload a patched .2 runtime now will you hate me? | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | i.e. it could wait until after .3 | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | it's just that I have it ready now ^^ | 17:45 |
| yofel | well, not really... as long as you later rebase .3 on the new .2 | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | :O | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | I'll wait :P | 17:46 |
| yofel | we need an intact changelog... that's all | 17:46 |
| Riddell | mitya57: merged! | 17:46 |
| mitya57 | thanks Riddel! | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: exams done yet? | 17:52 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: nope, www.unh.edu/registrar/finals/finals_spring_2013.pdf | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | I'll poke you on thursday I suppose then :P | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | or next week or something | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | I have great plans for making updates less annoying :P | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | k ^^ | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: though personally, I have exams on the 10th, 13th and 14th | 17:57 |
| JontheEchidna | so you could probably poke me wed. and it'd be ok | 17:57 |
| JontheEchidna | that's a list of all the possible times a final exam could be scheduled | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | ok, perfect | 17:59 |
| Riddell | hmm not much on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/ | 18:18 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: fancy setting up a mumble call again for kubuntu? | 18:21 |
| Riddell | ScottK: "[PyQt] ANN: PyQt5 Snapshots Available" does that make you exsxcited? | 18:22 |
| ScottK | I already ping'ed xnox and mitya57. | 18:53 |
| ScottK | I'm hoping they are excited enough to package it. | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | py-cited | 18:53 |
| Riddell | mirv? | 18:53 |
| * mitya57 is excited but lacks time, so won't be against xnox doing it :) | 18:54 | |
| ScottK | mitya57: Find someone else that does ... | 18:57 |
| ScottK | BTW, sip4 will need to be updated too. | 18:57 |
| mitya57 | that should be an easy thing | 18:58 |
| ScottK | mitya57: Excellent. Thanks for working on it. | 19:00 |
| mitya57 | ScottK: do you want me to commit it to svn? | 19:00 |
| ScottK | mitya57: I'd say first get it into Ubuntu and in bzr. I'm not sure the state of Qt5 in Debian at the moment. | 19:01 |
| mitya57 | it's in experimental | 19:01 |
| ScottK | There's a few things around sip4/PyQt4 that need sorting before I can put it in Debian anyway. | 19:01 |
| ScottK | Once I get the current sip4 in experimental sorted, then it could go there, but in the mean time, I'd get it in Ubuntu. | 19:02 |
| mitya57 | by "it" I meant sip4... | 19:02 |
| ScottK | No, not yet. | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Just do Ubuntu. | 19:12 |
| ahoneybun | ScottK: Justodo Kubuntu. | 19:15 |
| ahoneybun | *Just do Kubuntu. | 19:15 |
| k1ck-soee | hiho, KDE 4.10.3 out ? | 19:15 |
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| ScottK | ahoneybun: It's all one package archive. I meant Ubuntu as in Ubuntu the distribution, not Ubuntu the desktop. | 19:15 |
| Riddell | soee: needs packaging | 19:22 |
| soee | Riddell, can't do that but i can test when ready :) | 19:22 |
| Riddell | hmm, do I want to remove all these ? Build-Depends: kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.10) | 19:22 |
| Riddell | (again) | 19:23 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: More plymouth fun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1171099/comments/20 | 19:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1171099 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Saucy) "kubuntu - plymouth not shown" [High,Triaged] | 19:27 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: KDE Bug 317858 seems to be reasonably hot. Is a solution for that available? | 19:28 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 317858 in updater "muon crash when I change the update server" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317858 | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | There's not one yet | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | It's one that I thought I had fixed, but the solution didn't end up working | 19:29 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks for working on it. | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | It's one I can't reproduce, so any of my attempts are blind. (Timing related) | 19:32 |
| ScottK | I can reproduce it intermittently. | 19:33 |
| ahoneybun | ScottK: I know just joking ;) | 19:33 |
| ScottK | OK | 19:33 |
| ahoneybun | Hey Riddell | 19:33 |
| ScottK | Some people don't. | 19:33 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail/Basics | 19:42 |
| yofel | Riddell: well, as long as we don't change the version in meta-kde, you could just leave it in | 19:44 |
| yofel | ScottK: the graphical splash not working with nvidia means it works be design, no? | 19:46 |
| yofel | an nouveau is buggy alright | 19:46 |
| ScottK | No idea. | 19:46 |
| yofel | *as designed - I meant | 19:46 |
| yofel | the nvidia driver expects the kernel to be in text mode. Thus you get the text splash | 19:47 |
| yofel | you can ofc. force a framebuffer, but IIRC that doesn't work in all cases | 19:47 |
| ahoneybun | is Kubuntu still using guarddog? | 20:01 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: looks very KDE3 to me, so no | 20:03 |
| ahoneybun | what does | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: "buggy" probably means text splash :P | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | i.e. kubuntu-text | 20:05 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: guarddog | 20:08 |
| yofel | though I meant qt3 | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: yes what does Kubuntu use as a firewall right now? | 20:09 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: nothing | 20:09 |
| yofel | the successor was kcm-ufw which was removed after being unmaintained | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | oh nice | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | I guess I can take that out of the Docs | 20:10 |
| yofel | if someone would want to configure the firewall gufw would probably be the thing to use | 20:11 |
| tyrog | Hello everyone. Is it possible to use the Ubuntu LTS enablement stack in Kubuntu 12.04.2? thanks | 20:23 |
| ahoneybun | just was wondering if that was still in theree | 20:23 |
| ahoneybun | tyrog: Kubuntu uses the same software repos | 20:23 |
| tyrog | ahoneybun: is there no problem with dependencies? | 20:24 |
| ahoneybun | if they are the same versions, I'm not 100% sure | 20:33 |
| ahoneybun | we use the same packages | 20:33 |
| yofel | tyrog: none that can't be worked out at least. If there are it's mostly apt doing the wrong thing | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | agateau: kde:about-distro | 21:01 |
| agateau | apachelogger: \o/ | 21:01 |
| shadeslayer | anyone working on getting the kscreen update in? | 23:05 |
| shadeslayer | in Raring | 23:05 |
| ScottK | Don't think so | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer | uhm, shouldn't we? | 23:11 |
| ScottK | Yes | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I've uploaded libscreek into kubuntu-ppa/experimental | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | *libkscreen | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | once that's compiled I'll upload kscreen | 23:20 |
| ScottK | OK | 23:21 |
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