[00:43] ::workspace-bugs:: [1119312] Desktop Effects keyboard shortcuts not saved @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119312 (by lordievader) [02:50] Riddell: krfb works here. It didn't work the first time I launched it, but it did the second. No idea why. === jono is now known as Guest46625 [03:45] hey people! [03:57] hey ScottK [04:12] hey valorie [04:49] ahoneybun: here now [06:27] good morning [08:22] "Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay Mamarok still loves us! [08:23] Riddell: Meh if Mamarok isn't I will be O-mouthed [08:24] BTW, how is KDE SC 4.10.3 doing? [08:26] see for yourself http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.3_raring.html [08:26] Meh no one fixed it? [08:27] Riddell: what a silly assumption I would not still like you :) [08:29] Riddell: Anyone abandoned their membership in the past 12 months? [08:30] I use Kubuntu since its very existence, why would I abandon it? [08:31] Mamarok: You will not for sure. [08:33] what small bugs shall we get agateau to fix? [08:34] Riddell: kactivities 4.10.3 [08:34] It's crapped when cmaking [08:37] Riddell: ur such a stalker :P [08:38] apachelogger: lol [10:17] yofel: hmm, how does one update the package in ninjas again :S [10:38] shadeslayer: huh? [10:38] yofel: nvm :P [10:39] did not have enough coffee and TT [10:39] smartboyhw_: kactivities is crapped because nepomuk-core needs an update [10:39] :D [10:39] n-c is fixed [10:39] just uploaded it [11:16] Hey all [11:16] Hello BluesKaj [11:16] hi smartboyhw [12:07] + ) + i18n("

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"); [12:07] do we still need this? [12:12] harald say no [12:53] Riddell: What happened to you with krfb? I made it work. [13:34] ScottK: I really don't know [13:34] ScottK: I made it work connecting to me, it just didn't connect from the withsupport office [13:35] What VNC client where they using? [13:35] it was connecting from an ubuntu machine so maybe there's something there [13:35] but I've not looked any further than that [13:35] maybe they were just doing something stupid [13:35] I'd ask them what VNC client they were using as it seems to work with krdc. [13:54] apachelogger: Good guidelines [14:11] kde telepathy's notification systray icon, should it blink? [14:12] IIRC there should be a seperate blinking envelope when you get a message [14:13] yes that's what there is [14:13] but should there be? from a nice design perspective [14:13] I think it's annoying to have a blinking thing [14:14] I think that's very much personal preference. Most IM applications have some blinking thing for new messages [14:14] be it the application icon or something else [14:15] it could be redundant if you consider knotify to be responsible for that [14:16] Martin says it's very heavy on kwin [14:16] because it's an animation? rendering some 16x16 px shouldn't be that heavy... [14:17] I believe he said something about blur [14:17] I forget [14:17] oh, blur can be heavy, right [14:18] I personally could live without it - *IF* I could make the knotify icon red when something's up [14:18] I don't notice a small grey icon on a grey panel with a number on it unless I'm actually there when the full notification pops up [14:26] yofel: turns out the entire panel is redrawn if the hardware doesn't support caching [14:26] ouch [14:27] yofel: ? [14:27] ok, mine supports caching if I can trust the "show paint" effect [14:27] smartboyhw: yofel: turns out the entire panel is redrawn if the hardware doesn't support caching [14:28] yofel: Eh [14:54] smartboyhw: smartboyhw: yofel: turns out the entire panel is redrawn if the hardware doesn't support caching [14:56] apachelogger: You quoted too many people [14:57] I thought we were playing a game [14:57] apachelogger: … No we are not. [14:58] :O [14:59] apachelogger: lol [16:07] * Riddell spots https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-webkit-maintenance [16:08] Seems rather incomplete. [16:42] Darkwing: yofel: shadeslayer: there are 2 pending questions on the mailing list for you guys.... [16:43] I have half a reply in my draft [16:44] that does not help me now does it :P [16:44] I am sleepy [16:45] coffee didn't help [16:45] cry me a river [16:46] apachelogger: Barcelona has no river [16:46] that's why you are supposed to cry me one..... [16:47] I don't think it works that way [16:48] it is [16:48] trust me [16:48] I am austrian. [16:48] and that's exactly why I don't trust you [16:48] 4.10.3 packages are just weird on the status page [16:48] E: libkwineffects1abi4: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN4KWin15AnimationEffect25disconnectGeometryChangesEv@ABI_1_4 [16:49] I don't see the debian revision in there [16:52] look into the log file [17:05] shadeslayer: re okular (again): I tried to change the ABI version, but the build still produces usr/lib/libokularcore.so.2abi1 [17:06] should I have a libokularcore2abi2 package providing a .so.2abi1 library? [17:07] uh no [17:07] apachelogger: ^^ [17:08] (detais are in bug 117943 I've filed today) [17:08] bug 117943 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-session should depend on dbus-x11" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117943 [17:08] *details [17:09] *bug 1176943 [17:09] bug 1176943 in okular (Ubuntu) "okular FTBFS with gcc 4.8" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176943 [17:11] shadeslayer: ? [17:11] nvm [17:11] mitya57: X-Debian-ABI: 1 [17:12] ur such a troll [17:12] mitya57: you need to bump that [17:12] shadeslayer: ah thanks, didn't notice that [17:12] np [17:13] someone please make sure albert is ok with the bump [17:14] pushed to lp:~mitya57/kubuntu-packaging/okular, will submit a mp if/when it builds [17:15] shadeslayer: ^ [17:15] shadeslayer: ^^^^^ [17:15] apachelogger: ^^ [17:15] apachelogger: ^^^^^ [17:15] did anyone do that? [17:16] do what [17:16] someone please make sure albert is ok with the [abi] bump [17:17] ah [17:17] mitya57: ^^ [17:18] tsdgeos is not here [17:18] will subscribe him to the bug [17:18] #okular [17:18] awesome thanks [17:20] s/the bug/the merge proposal/g, that'll make more sense [17:20] mitya57 meant: "will subscribe him to the merge proposal" [17:25] mitya57: btw please discuss with upstream before uploading anything [17:25] just to make sure they're OK with it [17:26] * mitya57 thinks discussing with tsdgeos will be enough [17:27] they're private symbols [17:27] that's not an abi change [17:27] Good evening. [17:29] shadeslayer: ^^ [17:34] mitya57: they're all private symbols, it's fine for gcc to optimise them away [17:34] no abi change [17:34] OK, actually I thought about that but was not sure enough [17:36] can one of you then pull ~mitya57/kubuntu-packaging/okular into the main branch? I've undone the package name change [17:38] mitya57: let me look [17:38] wait a second, I'll add a bug reference [17:38] done [17:39] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] kwin instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) [17:40] mitya57: that still does the abi change, it's not necessary [17:41] mitya57: ah no it's all good [17:44] yofel: piiiiing [17:44] apachelogger: reserved pong [17:45] yofel: if I upload a patched .2 runtime now will you hate me? [17:45] i.e. it could wait until after .3 [17:45] it's just that I have it ready now ^^ [17:45] well, not really... as long as you later rebase .3 on the new .2 [17:45] :O [17:46] I'll wait :P [17:46] we need an intact changelog... that's all [17:46] mitya57: merged! [17:46] thanks Riddel! [17:52] JontheEchidna: exams done yet? [17:54] apachelogger: nope, www.unh.edu/registrar/finals/finals_spring_2013.pdf [17:56] oh my [17:56] I'll poke you on thursday I suppose then :P [17:56] or next week or something [17:56] I have great plans for making updates less annoying :P [17:56] k ^^ [17:57] apachelogger: though personally, I have exams on the 10th, 13th and 14th [17:57] so you could probably poke me wed. and it'd be ok [17:58] that's a list of all the possible times a final exam could be scheduled [17:59] ok, perfect [18:18] hmm not much on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/ [18:21] Darkwing: fancy setting up a mumble call again for kubuntu? [18:22] ScottK: "[PyQt] ANN: PyQt5 Snapshots Available" does that make you exsxcited? [18:53] I already ping'ed xnox and mitya57. [18:53] I'm hoping they are excited enough to package it. [18:53] py-cited [18:53] mirv? [18:54] * mitya57 is excited but lacks time, so won't be against xnox doing it :) [18:57] mitya57: Find someone else that does ... [18:57] BTW, sip4 will need to be updated too. [18:58] that should be an easy thing [19:00] mitya57: Excellent. Thanks for working on it. [19:00] ScottK: do you want me to commit it to svn? [19:01] mitya57: I'd say first get it into Ubuntu and in bzr. I'm not sure the state of Qt5 in Debian at the moment. [19:01] it's in experimental [19:01] There's a few things around sip4/PyQt4 that need sorting before I can put it in Debian anyway. [19:02] Once I get the current sip4 in experimental sorted, then it could go there, but in the mean time, I'd get it in Ubuntu. [19:02] by "it" I meant sip4... [19:12] No, not yet. [19:12] Just do Ubuntu. [19:15] ScottK: Justodo Kubuntu. [19:15] *Just do Kubuntu. [19:15] hiho, KDE 4.10.3 out ? === k1ck-soee is now known as soee [19:15] ahoneybun: It's all one package archive. I meant Ubuntu as in Ubuntu the distribution, not Ubuntu the desktop. [19:22] soee: needs packaging [19:22] Riddell, can't do that but i can test when ready :) [19:22] hmm, do I want to remove all these ? Build-Depends: kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.10) [19:23] (again) [19:27] apachelogger: More plymouth fun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1171099/comments/20 [19:27] Launchpad bug 1171099 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Saucy) "kubuntu - plymouth not shown" [High,Triaged] [19:28] JontheEchidna: KDE Bug 317858 seems to be reasonably hot. Is a solution for that available? [19:28] KDE bug 317858 in updater "muon crash when I change the update server" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317858 [19:29] There's not one yet [19:29] It's one that I thought I had fixed, but the solution didn't end up working [19:30] OK. Thanks for working on it. [19:32] It's one I can't reproduce, so any of my attempts are blind. (Timing related) [19:33] I can reproduce it intermittently. [19:33] ScottK: I know just joking ;) [19:33] OK [19:33] Hey Riddell [19:33] Some people don't. [19:42] Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail/Basics [19:44] Riddell: well, as long as we don't change the version in meta-kde, you could just leave it in [19:46] ScottK: the graphical splash not working with nvidia means it works be design, no? [19:46] an nouveau is buggy alright [19:46] No idea. [19:46] *as designed - I meant [19:47] the nvidia driver expects the kernel to be in text mode. Thus you get the text splash [19:47] you can ofc. force a framebuffer, but IIRC that doesn't work in all cases [20:01] is Kubuntu still using guarddog? [20:03] ahoneybun: looks very KDE3 to me, so no [20:05] what does [20:05] ScottK: "buggy" probably means text splash :P [20:05] i.e. kubuntu-text [20:08] ahoneybun: guarddog [20:08] though I meant qt3 [20:09] yofel: yes what does Kubuntu use as a firewall right now? [20:09] ahoneybun: nothing [20:09] the successor was kcm-ufw which was removed after being unmaintained [20:09] oh nice [20:10] I guess I can take that out of the Docs [20:11] if someone would want to configure the firewall gufw would probably be the thing to use [20:23] Hello everyone. Is it possible to use the Ubuntu LTS enablement stack in Kubuntu 12.04.2? thanks [20:23] just was wondering if that was still in theree [20:23] tyrog: Kubuntu uses the same software repos [20:24] ahoneybun: is there no problem with dependencies? [20:33] if they are the same versions, I'm not 100% sure [20:33] we use the same packages [20:38] tyrog: none that can't be worked out at least. If there are it's mostly apt doing the wrong thing [21:01] agateau: kde:about-distro [21:01] apachelogger: \o/ [23:05] anyone working on getting the kscreen update in? [23:05] in Raring [23:10] Don't think so [23:11] uhm, shouldn't we? [23:14] Yes [23:20] ScottK: I've uploaded libscreek into kubuntu-ppa/experimental [23:20] *libkscreen [23:20] once that's compiled I'll upload kscreen [23:21] OK === TaiChi is now known as Guest47017 === TaiChi_ is now known as Guest84151